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Good, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome

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to Eye on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera.

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He's Jagan Zaues. We have sit
in today again on Friday. Let

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me ask you something I already asked
you this this week, said was not

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here. I don't think you trust
this basketball team. No. I mean,

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come on, we know the road's
going to be tough, but let

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me tell you something. Twenty games
in, you trust this team. I

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trust this team to be very unpredictable. So is that no? Well,

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you know it's funny because look,
let's say it was huge that they won

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that game. Yes, triple overtime
on the road. It beats you low

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sixteen point lead. Uh, you
know you got another tough one coming up

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on Saturday. It's a big deal
that they won that game last night.

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A big deal, A really big
deal. And in fact, I did

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see that. In yesterday's bracketology,
Lenardi said that Joe Lonardi said that if

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Arizona be to Utah, they'll they'll
leap over Tennessee and be on the one

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min And they did, and they
did. So they did that today.

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Okay, so it's a big deal. And they were poisoned loose. Okay,

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but then you think about, Okay, you had a sixteen point lead

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and you let these guys go off
in the second half from the three point

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line again, you got to fix
that. Wait wait, wait, wait,

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wait wait. So I'm the guy
that tells you guys and all the

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listeners, Okay, learning lesson right, learning lesson? Yeah, how many

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learning lessons you need? The lesson
has been taught four times now and they

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haven't learned, so you think that's
gonna So, you know, as they're

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going through it, and at the
end of the game, you know,

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we're you know, we're we're watching
this game and my my my son Adam,

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and my daughter Rachel, my wife, were watching this game and like

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we had stuff to do after the
game, and I hope it wasn't scheduled.

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We get it was no, no, but for eight o'clock. Yeah,

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So we get to the end of
the game and I'm like, you

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know, I said it's great that
they won. I said, all those

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thdden great that they won. You
know, it was a game that they

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easily could have lost. It would
have hurt to lose. After leading by

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said they're gonna have to fix that
because none of these teams that are doing

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that are maybe even n C double
a team. Right. No, No,

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And there's your thing. That's why
you two came in the building today,

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your thoughts on the game. It's
and I think this if if it

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doesn't get the I think it's just
gonna be a Tommy Is it gonna be

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a Tommy Lloyd team thing? I
don't know. But let me say this.

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If they moved to the one line, you think there are a number

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one team in the country, a
number one scene in the country. Not

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right now, what you know of
this? Not right now? Not not

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not right now. I think I
think they're still there. I think they're

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more towards the tail end of the
two line because of this, just because

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of this everything else, because you
look at you look at Caleb Love and

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how you know they've got a guy
there who we always talk about having a

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guy who's gonna take and make the
shot that you need. Now I know

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he missed a couple of them last
night, but he made a couple and

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overtime right in the overtime and stuff. You know, you've got Umar Balow,

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who, as much as we say, he doesn't look like he's taking,

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you know, the big leap.
He has been pretty damn good.

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Coming down in this thread is really
damn good. The only thing I don't

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like about Ballo is like everybody else
did those two things. Because in fact,

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Brian Peterson tweeted at me last night
page thirty ish and he says,

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somewhere Steve Rivera was smirking, you
know, and I didn't n understand why

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he said that. I just said, okay, But then I realized,

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I'm the guy who said, cayleb
Love at some point along the way,

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maybe in March, he's gonna shoot
you out of a game, and you're

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gonna depend on him, and he's
gonna shoot you and you're gonna say,

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what the hell just happened? So
that's what that's what the reference right right.

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There were a couple of shots and
throws. That's all I have.

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But I I feel like Caleb Love
is going to make more than he misses

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in those situations. And I think
you can say, well, the misses

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like last night he takes a thirty
footer at the end of the overtime,

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What the hell was that was that? Was that a a that? Wasn't

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that a Caleb Love thing? Or
was that drawn up? No? Come

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on, yeah, but you know, but look at the overtime before that

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that you know, uh, Colin
Boswall took a twenty five footer at the

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end of overtime. What are they
doing? So but I still I still

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believe in Caleb Love that he's going
to be a guy that will win you

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a game, you know, in
the tournament by doing something like that,

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by going off for thirty or hitting
the big shot or whatever. Yeah.

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I wanted to ask you guys this
though, would you be more nervous about

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this team in the first weekend or
the second one. I'm more nervous on

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the first weekend. Here's why,
because those teams that you're gonna face in

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the first weekend, they're there usually
because they've got guys who can make three

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pointers and throw that in. In
addition to Arizona overlooking those type of teams,

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right, they're not Those teams aren't
generally built to beat you inside.

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They don't have guys like Umar Balow
on their team. The Santa Clara they

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are those guys who've got a bunch
of six foot two guys, you know,

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dead eye shooters from the outside,
and like, you know, I

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mean some of those shots they were
making last night, I'm like, you

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know, they're crazy shots. But
it's like, how many of them are

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wide open? Well, let me
say, and how many minutes did they

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myth White, come on, all
the games that they've lost, you said

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four or five? Now, which
is true. Everyone says, Oh,

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they just get lucky or they get
good because there was no No, you

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can't look a thing. Look,
how many times is lucky the thing?

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Now, you gotta quit relying on
that, right, And does every team

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get up for Arizona? Yeah?
Yet? So how many lessons learned do

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you need before you pass this test? Yeah? No, I know it.

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It's look, they know it.
I'm sure they know it too,

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But why why isn't it translating into
playing the type of defense that doesn't allow

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that to happen. It's damn good
to let that happen against teams like you

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know you're talking about now, Stanford, UCLA, Washington State and Utah.

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Four teams, none of whom maybe
Utah gets in the tournament, but those

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other three are not who have all
done this to you? All right?

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And then Purdue did it to you. One guy get it to you.

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Yeah, well, fau is every
I don't think that was so much outside

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shooting as it was just one guy
who was making everything from everything. Well,

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and the other guys were hitting shots
as well, but still, but

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this specifically, the three point shot
was what was was the killers in all

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those games. Now they beat U
C. L A. And they beat

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Utah because you know, despite that, But man, I just walked away

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from the game thinking, yes,
you you won the game, and I'll

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give it to you for showing some
nad and winning the game in a tough

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situation, tough environment, triple overtime. You beat the hell you're in elevation.

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Uh, the crowd was, you
know what, was crazy and you

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won the game. I'm gonna give
you that, and that's what and that's

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what. That's how Tommy Low sold
it. But on the other hand,

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man, you know, you keep
doing that, you're gonna run into a

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Princeton or a Saint Peter's or somebody
who's gonna beat you that way. But

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that's why I asked, do you
trust this team? Uh? Are You're

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not in your head? Do you
know? I think no matter what,

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because there aren't enough games left to
play for you to say, Okay,

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you've fixed it, right, We're
gonna go into the n CYUAA tournament thinking

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this could happen in any game without
without question. I mean, you have

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a broken down car, but you
love it, you still pay, make

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you paid, you fix the alternator, but you're still worried that it's gonna

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go out. That's that's it right
there, That's where I was gonna go

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with it, because you can't trust
it to get you across town. You're

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just looking at the monitors hoping,
please don't, please don't, please don't.

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And that's kind of what this team
is in Spurts, they let,

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they let go for some reason.
It's very if you're a fan of some

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guy just texted me maybe in jest, I broke my computer. Yeah,

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I mean, yeah, you know. I mean, it's just it's just

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frustrating to watch. You feel like
they're better than that. Oh and you

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know they're better than this because they've
already teased you on how good they can

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be. That's the problem. They
gave you a big tease that first game,

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and and and now you say,
oh, what happened to this team?

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Well, they're not playing Duke every
week. They're not playing Duke every

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week. Yeah no, I I
yeah, man, I don't know.

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So so. But the thing about
it, Jay, and we talk about

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this all the time, and you
see it. You don't read you don't

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read the you know it's it's they're
bunkers tweeting things. Oh wow, you

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know. But no, I you
know what, at the end of the

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game, I went back to what
everybody was saying. And you can't argue

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with a lot of what was being
said because they oh no, no,

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no, I agree with you.
I would. I would compile a list

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and just say, okay, you
jumped, you jumped, you jumped to

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your bad wagon. Okay, you're
off the list. You can't come back.

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I don't read those ones, but
I'm saying I read that. I

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go read the stuff that you know, you know, Brian Peterson, Troy

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Hutcheson, No, no, all
those guys, all us, I don't

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know. I don't read the basement. I don't know. I don't read

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that. I don't read the basement, you know, my mom's basement with

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a bag of cheetahs. I'm talking
about. That's what I'm talking about.

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I know I can't look. My
brother is one of those guys, and

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I don't listen. I block him. I don't even know why I do

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it. I just maybe fit entertainment. But I said, well, you

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guys, you know why you can
though, because you're not dug in like

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I. Right, you don't really
care. The fun you think about is

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today this morning. This is must
have been a great game to watch and

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exciting. I'm thinking, yeah,
okay, it didn't mean any to me.

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You're right, I was just watching
this. What am I gonna write

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about? I mean, it was
an incredible game. It was fun,

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it was it was an incredible game. Both teams kept making plays when it

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got to overtime, When it got
to the first time, when when they

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went into overtime the first overtime at
the end of regulation, I thought,

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they're gonna lose because they're not They're
not at home. They had this big

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lead, Utah's got the momentum.
Important thing there, they're they're they're gonna

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lose and the momentum didn't mean anything, and then they didn't. And not

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only did they not lose, they
they covered, but they got lucky to

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cover. They got lucky to cover
and lucky to win the game. When

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the kids stepped out of the bounds
at what possession they got the ball back

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and and Love show So why did
he step out of bouds Because that was

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great defense. All they didn't call
it. Well, there were a couple

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of falls that they didn't call.
They didn't the way the one on the

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one on on uh on Love at
the end of overtime when he did that

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floating jumper and he got he clearly
got bumped and that clearly should have been

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a foul. They didn't go so
they weren't gonna call that stuff. But

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it was great defense by Umar under
the basket. This guy's trying to come

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through here and I'm not gonna let
him through here, and the guy stepped

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out. That's an example of the
great defense that they play. Sometimes sometimes

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it's not good, it's not good
enough. No, they they you know,

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they nearly they nearly screwed the pooch
last night, and they they you

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know, and then they would have
had to go into the you know,

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Saturday, after having played three overtime
and having to win that game, and

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now they've won this game. I'm
not saying they can or should relax,

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but you've got the you've got the
one in your back pocket. If you

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go home and this is the best
you did going then just take it.

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But they have an opportunity to sweep
the series, which would really you know,

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continue solidifying. Look, if they
keep winning these games, I guess

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you say, well, in spite
of that, they're winning these games,

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but you just got to know that
when they get dan cuaa tournament, they're

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gonna face better teams than this.
Well, and those teams can do this.

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Man, they're in trouble. So
we have three more minutes, but

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no time. I don't know this. I don't know this. I think

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the previous Tommy Lloyd teams didn't give
me this odds. They didn't just didn't

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give me this because and what do
I care? Right, if they win,

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they win, they win the door. But this team, compared to

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the other two, aren't like those
other two. Those other two teams,

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you you felt comfortable with those two
teams. This one you don't feel comfortable.

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No, if you look back and
you were you you like those last

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year's team and the year before.
But I think that with those guys though,

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we always had the toughness. Fact, well, you're worried about it.

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You didn't know this until you get
your ass, Kia, because you're

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going to TCU and you get beat
in your team. Where did that come

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from? You were not tough enough? And then a week later you get

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your butt bean, you do know
what to say? You don't know until

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you know, So you don't know
until no. But we we thought that

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they weren't, no, really tough, going to you every tape that we

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had then last year and then last
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in this team on that team?
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I still thought if they were an
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they were going. Yeah, and
here they were. They did and they

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did well. They didn't beat back, They didn't get bepa physical team,

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they got beat back team. He
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here we are. Yeah, So
how many lessons do you need to learn?

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Well, let's hope, let's I
don't know. You know again,

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as I said, no matter what, no matter what happens in their last

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however many games they've got left.
We're going into the n c n cub

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A tournament thing. If they run
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be trouble. But to answer you
a good question, the first week,

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the first week, that's where you
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into. I was thinking that shot
the guy from Northern Iowa who made that

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three against Duke. Yeah, Duke, I think you know being you know

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those kinds of thing, you know, that's that's where you see that happen.

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Well, let's talk about you.
But the one thing that Tommy talks

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about all the time, or he
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much. This is that wiggle room. I can't remember the phrase he says,

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give them enough space where they can
you know, yeah, beat up

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twelve fifteen with that running and stuff. They're not. They used it all

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up in a hurry, they do. They used in a hurry. Okay,

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all right, real quick, great
show. All right, this time

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we've got a super Bowl champion on
the show. Josh Miller. He was

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a punter at Arizona in the early
nineties. Thirteen years in the NFL.

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He won a Super Bowl with the
Patriots in Super Bowl thirty nine, So

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we're gonna talk about what it's like
to win a Super Bowl. Get the

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ring, the whole deal. So
Josh Josh Miller will be on one of

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the great punters at Arizona and then
you can get your betting sheets out because

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we're gonna do Super Bowl props,
talk about some good Super Bowl props and

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things like that with Jack McGruder Sports
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We do a lot of a lot
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the Ball with Steve Roberta and Jay
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Hey, welcome back to the ball
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Vera, He's Jagan Zalaz. Now
on the phone, we have Josh Miller,

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a Super Bowl champion the first of
this week. Good to talk to

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you, Josh. It's been about
three some years since we talked to you

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last. It's been a while.
I know, I guess that's I mean,

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it's kind of your fault, right
I should be mad at you.

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No question here, no questions.
It's our fault. We have a lot

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to talk about, you know.
Here's the here's the problem, Josh.

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We sometimes don't remember whether or not
we've talked to somebody. So that's that's

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that's a part of it. A
couple of you know what. And I'm

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at the same age where I forget
if I did, so maybe maybe we

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did talk. I mean, we
all could be mistaken. So it's super

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Bowl week, Josh, you know, you one one, so it's I'm

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sure it feels different to you than
the other four guys would talked to you

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earlier this week. But you know, what, what is super Bowl week

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like for you? And you know, do you kind of revisit the memories

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and whatnot, But what's it like
for you? I mean I kind of

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relive it a little bit as far
as my goodness, I know what the

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guys are thinking at this point.
You know, the closer you get to

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the game, the more the more
you realize how many eyeballs are going to

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be on this game, how important
is the game. You know, you're

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done already getting all your family members
taken care of and situated. Then you're

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like, oh my god, this
is a big game, you know.

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And for me as a punter,
you know, I didn't my playbook,

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you know, it was like a
pamphlet. Yeah, so I mean,

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I I had nothing to do all
week, So I mean I really had

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time just to mess with my own
head. In fact, the funny,

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I don't know if it's funny,
it's a sad story. Is I remember

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the day before the game. I
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know, And I'm not terribly religious, right, I understand that there's there's

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there's things that take place above me
and before me. And when I'm done,

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I'll meet somebody. I mean,
I'm you know, I'm that.

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I'm I'm like a cartoon religious,
right. I mean, I know enough

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to know enough to get in,
but I'm not. You know, I

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don't. I don't throw it on
other people. But I tell you what,

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day before the game, I got
down on my knees. I said,

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God, I don't care if we
win or lose, just don't let

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me be the reason why we were. I'll leave it, I said,

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I'll leave. I'll leave the rest
to you whatever happens. I greatly appreciate

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you letting me get here. But
it's nerve wracking as hell, because you

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know, you know how it is. You go to a game, you

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the at the football players are on
the field, maybe like three hours before

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the game and their shorts and they're
walking around their head, you know,

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their head set on listen to music. At the super Bowl there was sixty

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thousand people in the seats already,
yeah, and You're just like, and

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there's cameras everywhere, and you know, it was so funny. I said

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one of the dumbest things I've ever
said in my life. I'm They're in

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the super Bowl, you know.
I was stretching on the hash on the

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left, hash right on the right, right by the numbers actually, and

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President Bush and President Clinton they're walking
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and I'm like, they're sixty yards
away. I'm like, oh,

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at school. The President look at
that. That's neat. And they kept

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going, getting closer and closer,
and and I'm like, I got to

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say something or I'm not. Should
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This is my field, right,
So I'm like, they should move.

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So I'm sitting there stretching. As
they got up to me literally a

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foot. I looked up and I
said, you know, good s boys,

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you know, and asked me,
I don't know if I'm allowed to

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curse or good S boys? And
then I just went back down and then

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into the right and I was just
like, oh my god, what did

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I just say? And they walked
past me on my and then I'm saying

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about that. Good s boys,
that's what you say the two president.

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So I thought about that probably to
the third quarter, and then I realized

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I was in the super Bowl and
uh so. So that just gives you

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a snapshot you it's it's nerve wracking
as hell. My best experience there was

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probably And I have this on the
wall, which is funny. I have

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my jersey I put in a frame
that obviously means a lot to me,

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you know, the Super Bowl jersey, but if there's a big ketchup staying

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on it because at halftime, Paul
McCartney was playing all his hits and I'm

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like, why do I have to
go in the locker room. There's no

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adjustments for me. So I sat
on stage watching Paul McCartney rip his greatest

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hints, and for me, that
was one of the greatest memories of that

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night. I was, you know
what I was gonna ask some previous guys

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because we had some It was who
was rolling stones? Yeah, yeah,

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yeah, joke. Defoy was standing
next to Mick Jagger in the tunnel.

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That's funny. Did did did you
learn anything from not going into the locker

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room or did they care? Did
they know you weren't there? Uh?

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You know, Belichick knows everything.
Like Miller, I saw you weren't there.

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That's five grand I think. I
don't know if he ever took I

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didn't know if if he was he
meant it or not. He sure as

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how didn't smile after he said it, so I'm assuming I got he took

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it somewhere during the some of some
of the bonuses. But it was awesome.

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He was Paul McCartney, that is
absolutely you know, just played all

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his great ones Fan on the Run. Yeah, he's not a couple of

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Beatles songs. I mean it was
just unbelievable. And I'm like, okay

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that that was the greatest. That
was the greatest content I've ever been to.

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And I literally was wearing my uniform
eating a hot dog. It was

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a five thousand dollars Well that was
the super Bowl. Then after the Janet

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Jackson uh incident, because remember they
they this country lost its mind over that,

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and so they had to get it. They had to get a safe

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a safe act for the next halftime
show. That wasn't going to do anything.

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That's crazy, that's that's that's incredible. So so so Josh, you

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know, let's tell us a little
bit about getting to the super Bowl.

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You know, you got when you
won the conference championship. Now you're with

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the Patriots, so they were it
was they had were sort of in the

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middle of this run because I think
this was the third super Bowl in four

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years. So you guys win the
conference championship when that game ends, where

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00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.559
you're thinking to yourself, we're in
the super Bowl, but not only that,

408
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.680
we're going to win a super Bowl
because we've got Brady and Gronk and

409
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:19.240
Bruce and all these guys. What
was your mindset when you guys, when

410
00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:23.839
you realize you were in the super
Bowl? It was incredible. And you

411
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.799
know, and the guys, as
you mentioned, I mean, this was

412
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.319
they're about to go back to back. You know, it's funny. I

413
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:33.640
don't even Let's go back just a
little bit further where I was with the

414
00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:37.680
Steelers. I just got cut.
I had five teams calling me saying come

415
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:41.839
punt for us, and Belichick literally
after he won the Super Bowl, we're

416
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:48.240
eating dinner at a Shuler Steakhouse in
West Palm and I'm like, Coach,

417
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:53.279
you just won a Super Bowl like
twelve days ago. Now you're having dinner

418
00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:57.279
with a punter. I mean,
this has to suck for you. And

419
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.240
he's like, well, you know, Joe, we have we have a

420
00:27:00.279 --> 00:27:02.759
great team, and I want to
make sure that our special teams are taken

421
00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:03.839
care of. And I want you
on this team next year. And I

422
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.359
guarantee you we're winning next year.
And I called my wife. I'm like,

423
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.799
Honey, I'm gonna go to New
England. She's like, but you

424
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:12.559
always wanted to play in a decent
weather place. I'm like, yo,

425
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:15.480
you know what, they're gonna win
a Super Bowl. I'm convinced they are.

426
00:27:17.160 --> 00:27:18.240
He told me he's not a liar. I'm like, we got to

427
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.240
go that direction. So yeah,
it was. It was awesome. Then

428
00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:26.039
then we go ahead in each playoff
game. It's funny because you know,

429
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:27.519
when I was with the Stealers,
we didn't get too many playoff games for

430
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:30.799
the last couple of years I was
there, So you know, after the

431
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.960
first one, I'm in there high
five and everyone's happy, and Belichick comes

432
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.160
and the guy right I'm pretty sure
we thought we'd win, you know,

433
00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:38.880
a freaking playoff game. We won
a super Bowl last year, let's cut

434
00:27:38.920 --> 00:27:41.480
the crap. And then he tell
everyone what they did wrong, right,

435
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.000
and then and then then we won
the next one, and then suddenly we're

436
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.720
in the championship game and this is
this blew my mind too. This is

437
00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:53.839
my first year with New England in
four and I'm looking across the AFC Championship

438
00:27:53.880 --> 00:27:56.680
game against the Steelers that I spent, you know, eight years there,

439
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:02.400
and I'm like, I know every
single one of these guys, family wives,

440
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:07.000
I know, I know the girlfriends, I know everything about everybody on

441
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:11.200
that side, and I just I
was sad that I was extremely happy I

442
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.039
wanted to go to the super Bowl
with the Steelers. And then the next

443
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.559
year that I get released, I
go to the Super Bowl through the Steelers,

444
00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.160
and uh, that was kind of
a pretty cool moment for me.

445
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.279
It's funny because a lot of the
players don't get to predict or or guide

446
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:30.319
their way through to a title,
right. Steve Kerr was a notorious for

447
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.920
that because he ended up with Chicago
and who had ever thought and he kind

448
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.000
of you did that you were able
to think think it through. Yeah,

449
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.799
it was uh, you know,
I like, how do I get to

450
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:44.000
the Super Bowl? Everybody wants to, you know, at least play in

451
00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:48.519
one, probably except for me because
I was always scared. But you know,

452
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.279
so so I found myself just kind
of like, well, you know

453
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.759
what do I go play in the
dome with a team that will never make

454
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:57.960
the player? So I go with
the you know, I go with somebody

455
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:03.680
that had everybody it's fully loaded.
I mean they're loaded. Uh they as

456
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:06.680
you mentioned the names earlier, you
know, Teddy, Bruce Ski and and

457
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.160
you know and obviously Brady who is
just literally just scratching the surface of his

458
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.720
greatness. It was like it was
a no brainer for me. It was

459
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.640
pretty cool. So it was exciting. I was able to win a Great

460
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:19.119
Cup and a Super Bowl. So
I think that number is pretty small.

461
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.039
That is pretty cool. That is
pretty cool. All right, So where's

462
00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:26.359
the ring? What have you done
with you with the ring? Well,

463
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.480
I'll tell you what. I saw
it. We just moved to you know,

464
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.039
moved, we just moved locations in
Jupiter, and I saw it for

465
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.000
the first time in a handful of
years. My son took it to shoe

466
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.279
and tell one time that was the
last time I saw it Before that.

467
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:47.680
I don't wear it a lot.
We didn't know we took it. By

468
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:52.640
the way, that was a fun
call from the sea. So I wear

469
00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.680
it once in a while if i'm
if I have to go do, if

470
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.880
I'm speaking somewhere, I'll wear it. I hate wearing it. I feel

471
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.039
I'm just not a big fan of
it. I'm just for me. You

472
00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:07.160
know, I wasn't put on the
planet to kick a ball, and then

473
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.519
so now that I did, I
got you know, I'm part of this

474
00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:12.640
unbelievable team. I mean I always
get amazed every off season. I always

475
00:30:12.640 --> 00:30:15.720
thought they'd get rid of punting.
I literally swear to you. I thought

476
00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:18.920
I thought that was gonna be the
call where they're like, well, you

477
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:21.319
know, we don't need punting.
We're just gonna go for it. So

478
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.759
I've been extremely fortunate and grateful to
be able to play as long as I

479
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:27.079
did. I mean, I know
what I look like naked. I don't

480
00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.400
look like them, So I'm like, how to hew am I wearing the

481
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.720
same uniform on the same field with
these guys. So my whole journey has

482
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.319
been greatly appreciated. On my fort
Well, you know you mentioned about punting.

483
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:42.440
Did you see the commissioner talk about
stuff like that kicking and punting this

484
00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:47.720
week? Because the only reason I
know this is from the guy who does

485
00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:52.480
the talk show of Concuss and all
that he was the former punner of West

486
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.039
Virginia. Oh, Pat mccott.
They talked about that that down the road

487
00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.200
they might eliminate punting and kicking,
which makes no sense, but which makes

488
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:04.119
no sense. But you know what, I wouldn't be surprised. They're they're

489
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:07.799
so bored, right, I mean
now now, I mean the money that

490
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.839
the NFL makes, and they're gonna
make you go to peacock to watch a

491
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.799
game and then you gotta wake up. It's just there's so many things that

492
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.240
annoy me. I wouldn't be surprised
if that was one of them. I'm

493
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:19.759
just happy it didn't happen during my
window, of course, and then I

494
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.720
would have had to wear a suit
and sit in a cubicle and tried to

495
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.680
do something. So well, so
let me ask you about that. You

496
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.079
know, you're you're you're in the
game, and you you know you had

497
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.039
to you had to punt. You
you know, you went and kicked a

498
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:37.039
few. First time you walked on
the field during the game for a punt,

499
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:40.480
you know, you mentioned how you
just said you prayed that you wouldn't

500
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.759
be the reason that they that that
you know that they lost the game.

501
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:51.079
What's going through your head? Uh
uh? Touch the ball? Yeah,

502
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.240
that's all That's all that I was
thinking about. And it's so funny.

503
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.799
So yeah, so there I am. You know, I give my my

504
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.240
little request to God, like just
don't let me be the reason. And

505
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.319
I find myself on the field the
last pun of the game with like fifty

506
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.839
seven seconds left, and I'm sitting
there in the center of the field.

507
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:13.480
I think we're up by a couple
and they call a TV time out.

508
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.240
So now I'm standing in the middle
of the field. I'm like, please,

509
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.440
I hope the camera's not on me
because I've never had an ass so

510
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.279
I'm like, I look like the
worst athlete in the world, but I

511
00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.359
hope the camera's not on. And
then I finally Belichick calls. He's like

512
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.839
Miller, so I come running over
there. He's like, just kick the

513
00:32:28.839 --> 00:32:30.759
ball out of the ends and I
don't care where it goes. I'm like,

514
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.559
okay, awesome, so I turn
around, I run fifteen yards.

515
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.799
I hear Miller. I go back
and I'm like, yeah, coach.

516
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.079
He's like, you know, if
you can get inside the ten, that'd

517
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:38.640
be great. I'm like, O, yes, of course, it would

518
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:43.160
be fantastic. So I turn around, run back. He had me come

519
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:45.880
back again, and then nobody tells
me this Hall of Fame coach, the

520
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:47.200
greatest coach of all time and the
student of the game. He's like,

521
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:51.359
well, don't drop the ball.
I'm like, James, kind of hell

522
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.519
do you say that where I'm He's
like, yeah, yeah, that was

523
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.279
dumb. I'm sorry, just get
rid of it. I'm I'm like,

524
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:59.000
awesome coaching, coach, thank you
for that all of it. Actually,

525
00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:00.640
So when I ran that got and
the ball happened, though, you know,

526
00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:05.640
I got it inside the four yard
line, and two plays later mcnapped

527
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.880
through an interception. My wife was
like nine months pregnant, so I had

528
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.599
to get her under the field.
That was not easy. Uh. And

529
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.440
then right after I showered, I
went back to the hotel, watched Lionel

530
00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:21.400
Ritchie I'm seeing sailing, and then
I fell asleep because I was exhausted.

531
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.119
Everyone else went around doing whatever they
do. I passed out because I was

532
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:30.680
just exhausted from just the emotional run
the roller coaster and winning it was wild,

533
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:34.400
very ful. That's that's hilarious.
I'm looking at the play by a

534
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.599
player right now. You're fifty five
seconds left, you your punt, you

535
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.279
pin them at the four, and
you guys win the game. So there

536
00:33:39.359 --> 00:33:45.960
you go. After after all of
it, you know, let's say a

537
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:50.880
month later, you know, where
was your mind on what just happened to

538
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:58.119
you? I was, Yeah,
I was. I was surprised, you

539
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:01.079
know, looking back on i'd actually
how it played out and being lucky enough

540
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:04.559
to go through it. I was
just thankful, very lucky at the right

541
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.239
place, right time, surrounded with
the right guys, and I just was

542
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:14.000
very thankful that it happened. Well, we appreciate your time. A lot

543
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.280
of fun. Let me tell you
something though, of this fifteen minute interview,

544
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.280
you know what I took the most. You could be a cartoon religious

545
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:22.599
guy. I'll let you know.
I'll let you know if I get in

546
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:31.519
up in heaven with that excuse.
That's amazing. So Dot josh Us,

547
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:36.159
what you're doing now. You've got
a business out there in Florida, what

548
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:42.480
is that when this is called jail
sticks g E L S TX dot com.

549
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I work with athletes on the mental
game, so there's no there's no

550
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training aid for between the ears.
So the closest thing I came up with

551
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was something that allows you to practice
how you play. So you know,

552
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with jel sticks at hockey, golf, lacrosse, we have the tools that

553
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555
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556
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with the ankle weights. It's a
it's more of a compression sleeve with weights

557
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.480
on it, so now you can
adding practice. It's like a doughnut in

558
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the baseball bat, but you can
take real cuts with it, sprint,

559
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:22.440
run, freeze up your hand.
So and I work with athletes on the

560
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.079
mental game. You know, there's
nothing you know, gal, you know,

561
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:28.400
I work with golfers LPGA girls that
should have their tour card but they

562
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.920
don't, or you know some you
know, you always see the parent youth

563
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:36.159
relationship get a little fractured because there's
no real go between because the parent tries

564
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.039
to push a little too hard.
I work with you know third Basement that

565
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.079
for goot, how to throw the
first one day, even though they're making

566
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:46.280
one hundred million dollars a year.
It's just wild. It's that's what I'm

567
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:50.199
saying. It's like when when I
say that I'm scared, and if any

568
00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.800
of these guys that come on or
say, oh no, that's not true,

569
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.480
they're full of it. I mean, they're absolutely full of it.

570
00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.199
It's it's it's between the ears is
the most fragile, fragile part of any

571
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:04.079
athlete. I remember Jerry Rice went
in the Hall of Fame. Everyone thought

572
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:06.840
he was joking when he thought he
would get cut every year, But that's

573
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.760
the mindset that he had, because
you know, it's not insecure, it's

574
00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.360
just what feeds the athlete. So
it's interesting when you finally get it together

575
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.639
as an athlete, or at least
know what to say and help them get

576
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.960
to that next level. So I
really enjoyed doing that. We got to

577
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:22.159
talk more about that down the road. That's interesting, very good story.

578
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:24.639
Yeah, we're gonna keep you in
mind. We bring that up a lot.

579
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:28.519
Yeah, so we'll we'll get back
with you on that because we definitely

580
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.360
would have some, you know,
some discussions because we have a psychologists on

581
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.719
the show. We had one yesterday. Uh yeah, okay, doctor Miller,

582
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:40.519
thank you very much. Yeah,
doctor Miller. Hilarious. Thanks,

583
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.000
thanks a whole bunch. Josh,
appreciate the time. I appreciate you guys.

584
00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:46.480
Have a great weekend again, you
too. Thank you. What a

585
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.000
good dude, What a good dude. Yeah, crazy, accept the reference

586
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:52.679
about him being naked. I could
have gotten. I could have gone without

587
00:36:52.719 --> 00:37:00.000
that part of it. Cartoon religious
beep beep. All right, great conversation

588
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:04.519
for Josh Miller, super Bowl champ
with the Patriots. So we'll we're gonna

589
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.000
talk some more super Bowl a little
later when Jack mcgruda comes on. We'll

590
00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.360
talk some super Bowl prop bets with
him in the second hour, and in

591
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lot of fun with Josh. It
was I couldn't remember how personable he was

696
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because it's been a while, but
he was good last time. I don't

697
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you remember why we got him on
back because it was early January. It

698
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was a Super Bowl thing, something
was going on because I because I saw

699
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on Facebook and we were talking,
and I can remember he said some interesting

700
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and things back then. I don't
get into it now, but he's obviously

701
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that life and the money that you
make back there, he's kind of not

702
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freedom, has freedom up to do
whatever he does. What was the thing

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the first one of the twigs was
jail Stick Stick. You go to their

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website and I still really but it's
you know, if you it's some sort

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of a training uh deal that that
that uh it's jael s t X dot

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com. It's it's sort of some
sort of a training mechanism or equipment or

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whatever that that that they do.
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spell G E. L S t
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he said, he does some other
looks like he does some other advising work,

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you know, with with people,
which meant fascinating, which is good

711
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stuff. Yeah, good stuff.
So and again he's won a super Bowl

712
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and you know, say whatever you
want, nobody will ever, you know,

713
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take that away from like like being
heavyweight champion of the world. Right,

714
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you'll always be the heavyweight champion of
the sure matter, sure, no

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matter how you know what happened.
So yeah, good for good for him.

716
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He fell into a good situation.
Of course, good players and smart

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players go to those good situations,
right right. You know, it's like

718
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McCaffrey, McCaffrey, and they wanted
him obviously, who wouldn't want him,

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right, Well, the Carolina Panthers
apparently didn't right right, right, so

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you know, either much too much
money or whatever, and he landed at

721
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the perfect spot. Yeah, perfect
spot. Yeah. No, we've got

722
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we've got a we we put a
bunch on on Christian McCaffrey. Not a

723
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:34.159
bunch, I mean you know,
we've got a we've got a two team

724
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:38.280
or two leg parlay with him for
his rushing plus receiving yards over one hundred

725
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and twenty eight and a half and
then his receptions over four and a half,

726
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so we need him to go off
a little bit. But we collect

727
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.199
a nice little, nice little bounce
with that one if we if we hit

728
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that. So that's a lot of
fun. I love it. You know.

729
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:55.719
I've told the story that we we
started doing this with with with uh

730
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prop bets for the super Bowl when
we realized we didn't really care about the

731
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Super Bowl, right we we we
were having a you know, a friend

732
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of ours, you know, he
threw a super Bowl party. We all

733
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went over for the party and when
the second half started, we started playing

734
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.840
poker and we're playing poker and we're
not even watching the game. We're playing

735
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poker, and the game was on. It's kind of in the background and

736
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.480
we're playing poker, and all of
a sudden, I look at the team.

737
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I'm like, guys, the Bills
are lining up to win a field

738
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:24.199
goal. Because remember that, well
you don't remember, you want to remember

739
00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:29.360
the Super Bowls were all blowout.
Every year. Every year was a blowout,

740
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And like, okay, there's a
field goal to win the game.

741
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So we stopped watched the field goal. Scott Norwood missed the field goal,

742
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.000
and then we went back to our
poker game. So the next year we

743
00:47:38.039 --> 00:47:40.199
were talking about the you know,
having another party, said, well,

744
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I have a party. We don't
even care about the game. And then

745
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.199
somebody said, you know, there's
a sports book down in the Gallas and

746
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:57.000
the rest is history. We started
doing this next day. So we're talking

747
00:47:57.039 --> 00:47:59.519
since the early nineties, we've been
we've been doing this. We have a

748
00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:01.199
blast. Now. You don't need
to go to Nogallas. No, we

749
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.599
don't. People and do it right
from the comfort of my of my office,

750
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.519
as we did last night. So
we you know, we had about

751
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:13.119
six guys on on a zoom call
and we came up with a whole bunch

752
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:15.960
of stuff for the game. Yeah, we forgot to add that we have

753
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:19.360
Jake Fisher at four forty. Yes, the next hour. If you want

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00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:21.599
to call, we have about six
minutes. Give us. Give us a

755
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:24.320
quick call. Five to four one
six seven four four zero. Do you

756
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.480
trust this basketball team that you follow
or don't follow? Or follow? I

757
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:34.079
didn't une follow. Are you holding
your breath waiting to see what the hell

758
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.679
they're going to do? Yeah,
I mean it's people go bonkers. People

759
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:39.400
before are you thinking during the game, did you think game I did I

760
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:45.719
did. I did. It's probably
second overtime whatever it was. And because

761
00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:46.639
you know when you're watching, when
I'm watching, at least, I'm thinking

762
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.519
what am I gonna write? What
am I right? And I hope that

763
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.519
Tommy's good on the radio, And
he was good Tony Wan. You know,

764
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.840
he comes up with some funny lines. Did he say or did he

765
00:48:55.880 --> 00:49:00.440
say the F And that was the
first thing. Asked me, if you

766
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:02.320
can you say that? I said
you can, but I didn't hear it.

767
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.159
Sure, no, no it was
he said, effie. But he

768
00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:07.800
you know, he's like that when
he wins. Yeah, when he loses,

769
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:12.039
his kind of need a melancholy.
But he was fine. He was

770
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:15.440
great. You know. The guy
that was really impressive and then you kind

771
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:21.320
of hope to see more of it
is Pellets. He's been playing offensively obviously

772
00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.039
we know the defense there, but
offensively he's been and he took charge.

773
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:27.360
Took charge. Yeah, that's what
I was gonna say. He was very

774
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.519
aggressive in what he was. He
was getting the ball and he was going

775
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.639
down the lane. Sure now he
had those back to back turnovers that he

776
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:36.199
went what the hell are you doing? Right? And then you missed those

777
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.920
couple of free throws that, you
know, but I think I think you

778
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:47.000
have to like the fact that he
is taking that responsibility, I guess is

779
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:51.199
the way to say it again.
And Jay, this is how I look

780
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.599
at things. You know, this
it's a one game, it's a one

781
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.039
off. It's not a one off. But you're hoping that they translates into

782
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.400
more and with your momentum. But
it's not like that. Life is not

783
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.920
like that. You can run up
against Colorado and then disappear. You know,

784
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:08.159
Boswell doesn't in games. Yeah he
did last night. Again, No,

785
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:10.280
even though he played better, he
played better, and you know,

786
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.719
but and then he got hurt.
You're thinking, what the hell? And

787
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:16.880
then he comes back and then he
comes you know, my, my,

788
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.840
my dartles. His shoulder looks just
look, did you see that. I

789
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:27.599
didn't see that. It just there
was just it looked. Now maybe it

790
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.880
wasn't dislocated, it's just he's got
a knob for a muscle, like yeah,

791
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.760
because he's like most of us don't
have. But I looked at it.

792
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.400
I thought, yeah, it could
be you know, it might have

793
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.440
popped out and popped back in or
whatever. But apparently it was you know,

794
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:44.800
he was, he was okay,
and then he takes that shot with

795
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:49.840
that shoulder or whatever it is.
You know, I think that Tommy did

796
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.159
admit that he should have called a
timeout or two to get some set up

797
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.480
there for at least one of the
shots, but he let him play.

798
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:01.719
Yeah, you don't know until you
know what worked right exactly exactly. I

799
00:51:02.519 --> 00:51:07.559
you know, again, as you
say, there's an uneasiness to what they're

800
00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:12.920
doing, Yeah, there's definitely an
uneasiness because you feel like they run up

801
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.880
against a really good team that can
do this, They're gonna be in trouble,

802
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:22.039
right, really are. And I
say this to your question, great

803
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.800
question, I'm worried more about first
round and second round than I am about

804
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:30.360
the rest, because that's when you
meet the great teams in the second you

805
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:35.079
know, the second week into the
day they always do. You don't worry

806
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.079
about that. It's the lower level
teams where they just think they can show

807
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:42.639
up and play. And you've been
around for four years, haven't you seen

808
00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:46.320
that. I've seen it for thirty
five. It's just the dynamic of sports.

809
00:51:47.239 --> 00:51:51.400
Hey, you played, I'm sure
you suffered it, you know,

810
00:51:52.719 --> 00:51:55.079
So it is what I mean,
Like we said, you know, going

811
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:59.320
into march. Each game, at
the beginning of the game, there might

812
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:02.079
be high level energy, but during
the game you got to create the energy.

813
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:07.320
Sure, and if you don't,
then that's when you start to fall

814
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:10.679
into that hole. Yeah. See, like Crevis, Crevis didn't have a

815
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.960
great game, Hardy saw him exact
exactly. But then last week you're thinking,

816
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.039
oh, he's getting he's getting it. So it's it's game the game

817
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.199
in situations, the situation. Yeah, and like you said, Babble plays

818
00:52:22.400 --> 00:52:25.400
and he has been playing very well. But you asked a lot of bottle

819
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:30.199
last night. Yeah a lot,
Yeah did, but he also came from

820
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:34.440
stepped up and gave it to you. That was a great matchup with him

821
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:37.639
in his part, buddy, Yeah, yeah, because the other dude was

822
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.920
pretty impressive. Yeah, he had
that big block and been a big a

823
00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:45.480
bigger shaped dude, a different shaped
dude. There's a lot of those,

824
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:50.480
right, yeah, right, because
I think has one, l A has

825
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:52.760
one, and then uh, Oregon
with the that's it. That's it,

826
00:52:53.400 --> 00:52:59.159
right, So we'll see what happens. Uh. Good luck to you,

827
00:52:59.400 --> 00:53:01.760
U a fan. It's going to
be a heck of a month and a

828
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:06.199
half. No, but but the
thing is that they are capable. You

829
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.360
know, they're capable. They are
and and that's the thing. You know,

830
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.000
on a given day they can smother
you deture, right, But on

831
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:16.360
a given day, they can let
you shoot as much as you want and

832
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.840
let you and let you make as
many shots as you want to shoot.

833
00:53:19.920 --> 00:53:23.880
So and that and that's the puzzling
part of what's going on over there.

834
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:30.039
I don't well, even as if
you guard them tightly or whatever, stuff

835
00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:35.320
happens. Situations happened where they can't
be stopped. Remember East Tennessee State.

836
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.320
I mean, they had just been
beat earlier in the year by a bunch

837
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.800
and then they came in. They
couldn't miss Santa Clara. Who are these

838
00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:45.400
kids? And that's how I looked
at them last night it was happening in

839
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.039
Salt Lake. It was part of
my story, these moppyhead kids who you

840
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.280
didn't think everyone was a chill,
these guys, and then they win the

841
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.800
game last night. They could have
won the game. And they're just long

842
00:53:55.840 --> 00:54:00.199
haired, floppy kids with the headbed
right. Just but you know, yeah,

843
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.760
no, I hear you, I
hear you. No, it's I

844
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.480
just wonder what let's you know,
what. I wonder what he's really thinking.

845
00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:13.079
Yeah, he's not gonna tell you, but I'm not gonna. I

846
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:15.039
just wonder, You're right, I
wonder what he's thinking about, what's going

847
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.559
on with with these guys. Yeah, you know, with Sean, he

848
00:54:19.559 --> 00:54:22.239
would say, you know, how
do I get to these guys? Tommy's

849
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:30.199
like, hey, we want let's
move on one. We gotta go all

850
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:30.760
right, we gotta get out of
here. We're gonna take a break,

851
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:34.119
we're gonna come back and we've got
some big breaking news for you, so

852
00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:34.800
stick around.