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This is pod Populi Podcast for the
People, the Great Love Debate. It's

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the Great Love Debate, the Great
Love Debate. It's a Great Love Debase.

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Hi again, Everyone's Brian Howie.
Welcome to the Great Love Debate,

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the world's number one dating and relationship
podcasts. It's two thousand and fifteen.

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I am back here in these studios
of pod Populi Podcast for the People.

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I am at the one in Palm
Beach Gardens, which I have not been

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at in quite some time. It's
very nice here if you have the means

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Palm Beach Gardens. UM. Quick
note before I get into what I want

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to get into and who I want
to get into it with. I know

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I guys have promised you the Bachelor
and Bachelorette Party Spectacular. I've been teasing

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it for like three episodes now that
I keep saying it's going to be the

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next episode. You guys have been
absolutely burying us with these horror stories about

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your bachelor bachelorette parties. I'm surprised
anybody gets married once I hear all these,

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So I'm gonna give it one more
week because you guys just even as

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of like an hour ago, I
got like thirty more, choose an email

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Great Love Debate at gmail dot com
with your horror stars, whether you were

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the bride, the groom, the
best man, the maid of honor,

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or in a wedding party, or
just did something really bad or witness something

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really bad at a bachelor party.
And we have had two deaths so far

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at one of these things. So
let's tell you that's where the bar it's

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at these things and many many divorces
and break up So Kavi at m tour.

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If you're gonna have a bachelor bacherette
party, send those in and we

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will get to that. I want
to continue ours. I don't know how

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to say this without sounding insulting.
As I've said several times in the last

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couple of months, we're doing this
series that are focused on women that are

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say plus thirty five, and they
are what I think is the single best

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group of women that exists in the
dating pool. However, there is the

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one that they're the ones that have
the most consternation issues, quandaries, forks

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in the road, things to deal
with. So I had somebody that I

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had some um, I have a
lot of questions for it because she has

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had some forks in the road.
She has made some changes. I don't

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know what she looked like at twenty
three. She might never look better than

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now. I don't know. Her
hair looks fantastic, so I'll give her

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that. She is. Her husband
was on here a couple months ago and

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he told you guys, how to
spend your money or not spend your money,

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and it was very, very smart. So I brought in his better

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half today. She's the host of
the Spoiled Milk podcast, and I'm going

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to let her explain why that is
because it leads to what I want to

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get into. Brooke rash how are
you? Hey, what's up? I'm

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laughing about the Bachelor bachelrette. You're
like, oh, I think I'd like

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to come back for that one.
I mean yeah, well, I mean

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I had. I had a very
interesting bachelorette party. Where was it?

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It was in Vegas, and of
course it was you know, the numb

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We're gonna break this out on the
episode. The number one place is Nashville

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for bachelor. For Bachelor, I
got married twenty one years ago, so

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that was a Ford Nashville, right
exactly. You should just be Vegas.

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One is Nashville. Two is Scottsdale. Interesting, Yeah, and then there's

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Nashville or Vegas, Miami, and
we will get into all of that.

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Um spoiled milk. Where did that
come from? So it actually came from

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an internet roll. We were my
husband and I were having an internet discussion

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about Leonardo DiCaprio and his tendency to
date these girls that are so super young

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and the most recent one is like
nineteen. Now keep in mind he's almost

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fifty yea. And for us personally, it's really disturbing because we have a

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nineteen year old daughter, right,
so Leo's older than us and he's dating

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to someone that is our daughter's age. And so through this like internet conversation,

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of course, a lot of people
agreed with us us that they thought

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it was disturbing. But then there
are the people that they were like,

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he's an adult, he can do
what he wants to do. I just

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was like, this girl's just got
out of high school. But hey,

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whatever, I digress. So this
one commenter said, well, of course

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he dates younger women, because women
aged like spoiled milk. And I was

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just like, at first, like
it made my blood boil, and you

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know, I went like I started
like keyboard like, and then I was

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like, nope, like back it
up, and I was sak, you

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know what, that's actually kind of
like catchy. I think I'm gonna like

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I was already like stirring on the
whole podcast idea, and I was like,

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I think I'm gonna use that because
that's my motivated yeah, and I'm

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like, that's my whole goal in
life is to not become spoiled milk.

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Like I see these older women who
they just quite honestly, they let themselves

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go. I'm not saying we shouldn't
age at all, and of course women

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should do what they want to do. Okay, if you want to let

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yourself go, let yourself go.
I'm personally not going to be one of

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those women that become spoiled milk that
society doesn't even see you anymore because you're

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like you're expired. Yeah. I
agree. Not to defend Leo because I

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think it's weird. I think it's
part of his brand at this point that

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if he started dating somebody more age
appropriate, and I'll let the world decide

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what that is. If he suddenly
started to date like a forty one year

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old woman, I think that makes
him suddenly accelerate the way he's perceived into

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an almost fifty year old man,
because he still has come off as kind

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of boyish and whatever, sort of
like George Clooney when George Clooney got George

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Clooney carried around this illusion that he
was this perpetual bachelor for many many years.

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He was married in his twenties for
several years. That never because part

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of his image was I am bachelor, as George E We're going to settle

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down or whatever. He didn't put
that on his bio at all. So

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once he got married, people are
like, oh, of course that's what

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he was holding out for this mature
woman who runs his chair, and Everything's

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like, no, this is his
second wife. And I think it's all

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part of branding. And I think, Leo, if he suddenly dates,

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you know, forty two year old
woman, I think it shifts the ape.

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So I think a lot of there's
a lot of upside to him being

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seen with the nineteen year old Victoria's
Secret model, who he may actually not

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be dating. I've heard rumors,
but I'm not sure if we want to

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talk about that. Okay, turned
into spoiled milk for those for those rumors.

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Yeah, there's a lot of famous
men who have a lot of young

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models that they're probably not in the
same house with. Let's just put it

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that way, right. The subtitle
of your podcast, because I want to

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get into that, is the Hot
Girl's Midlife Survival Guide. Now it's I've

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always very excited when the hot girl
says she's a hot girl. It's very

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empowering. It takes back what most
people are saying about you anyway, and

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it lets you control the dialogue.
If it's okay, this is the way

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you perceive me, I'm gonna tell
you how I'm going to be perceived.

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And I am cofinite, and I'm
hot, and I'm forty and here's how

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I'm going to make the moves.
And I'm a mom to navigate in the

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world. When did you decide to
sort of own that? When I was

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trying to come up with a subtitle, I guess you know. I mean,

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I've just I'll be forty three on
Friday, so in two days,

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I'll be forty three. Happy birthday. And yeah, I'm Jim and I

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and I'm sure that's not a surprised
but I've just always been told like people

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are just always shocked at my age. Like just for years and years and

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years, people have always told me
how young I look, and they always

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think them a lot younger. And
now I have, like I said,

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I have a teenage daughter, and
so she and I will be out in

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public somewhere shopping and we're having a
conversation and people will hear her call me

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mom and bl like they thought we
were sisters. And so it wasn't like

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really an intentional thing, but I
was like, h maybe, like I'm

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onto something with this whole like looking
younger than I am and wanting to help

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other women feel good as they get
older. So like my whole mission with

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this podcast and with you know what
I'm what I do for a living is

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to help women be the happiest,
healthiest, and hottest in their forties and

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beyond. So I feel like women
get to a certain point where they it's

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like they feel like it's too late, and it's really just people in general,

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but women especially right, and so
I'm like it can actually get better.

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Because you mentioned about what I looked
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I was not hot. When I
was twenty three, I was overweight,

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I was not health conscious at all, was like super inflamed. I like,

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if I pulled up a photo of
myself, you would be shocked.

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So it's been It wasn't one of
those things where I just was like,

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oh, like just effortlessly hot.
Like It's taken me a lot of intention,

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and I've had a lot of health
issues that I've had to overcome as

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well through that process. So I
just want to help women with all of

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the experiences I've had. So when
did you shift more change from a woman

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who needed help to a woman who
was providing the help. Was there like

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a fork in the road where you
flip the cards enough to think like,

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Okay, I have a handle on
this, and I've gone far enough down

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this journey that I think I can
influence and have a voice in this conversation.

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I mean, it's been ongoing,
but I would say, really for

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me, in the last probably six
to eight months, you know, we

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one of my first episodes I did
was the three like shifts that I made

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in my health over the last year. And one of those big things for

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me as I lost twenty five pounds. I had been really sick for about

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three or four years. I had
mold exposure, which caused me to gain

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a lot of weight, and I
finally got that weight off. You know,

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like I didn't feel good about myself
this time last year. I'll just

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say that, like, I was
definitely struggling. It was affecting how I

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was showing up. It was affecting
my business. And that's why it's so

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important. That's why I really think
it's so important, because when you don't

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feel confident, it affects how you
show up and how you can impact others

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and impact the world. So I
saw my business suffer as a result of,

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you know, low self esteem.
So there was that I lost weight,

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I got some things shifted and fixed
with my health, and we moved

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to Florida. I was living in
Colorado, which was beautiful, but it

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was cold for I don't know,
like nine ten months out of the year,

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we had snow in the you know. At the Namay last year,

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my daughter graduated in a blizzard,
and I just said, I can't do

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this anymore. I moved to Florida, and I just feel so good in

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the sunshine, like it's just healing
my body. But you also can't hide

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behind the clothes anymore. You have
to be out there, you're wearing less.

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You have to end. As I
said, your husband is on this

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podcast, he's very fit. Yes, during that time, did that motivate

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you or that or did that put
you into like a darker hole because you

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were struggling with your health and you're
struggling with your body. How does that

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work? Because normally it's the man
who's kind of it's definitely a motivator because

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he's always been fit and he's always
been just into fitness, like, he's

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always looked good. He personally,
I think he looks better now than he

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ever has at forty five years old. But yeah, I mean it definitely

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made me self conscious. I mean, first of all, I'm secure in

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my relationship. Ain't no bitch coming
along and stealing my husband. I'll just

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say that bitchy bitches. But but
I want to look good. I want

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to look good for him, but
you know I want to look good for

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me too, So yeah, I
mean it definitely there. It definitely has

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made me feel self conscious over the
years because he's always been more into the

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fitness arena than I have. I
wrote a line twenty years ago. I

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wrote this line. I wrote it
in a play that I did, but

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I looked back and I stand by
it, and I said that a woman

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finds her finds her way through her
teens, finds her body in her twenties,

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finds her face in her thirties,
and finds herself in her forties.

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When did you feel you found yourself? Was that after becoming a mom?

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Was that after losing Like was there
a moment, like a lightbulb moment where

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you because you know you and your
husband both have shared your fairly publicly,

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your sort of rags to Rich's story, what was the light bulb that went

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on for you that had been like, I can do whatever I want to

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do, how I want to do
it. I think it would be really

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hard to define it into just one
single moment. It's been a journey with

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lots of ups and downs and bumps, and it's not necessarily been linear.

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Was there a lowest low though?
Like, can you pinpoint that is like

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we have got to make some changes
and fuck this because that's where the people

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are in the dating world where I
tell people all the time you talk about

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moving from Colorado. I know you
moved to Colorado. I know you've moved

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a bunch of times where I say
that if you are in a funk and

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you really need to shake up your
snow globe, get the fuck out,

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go somewhere else, change your scenery, change your perspective, probably change your

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outcome. Was there a low point
where you guys or you on your own

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were just like, I'm not doing
fifty years like this. Yeah, I

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mean there's been There's been several.
I would say that the the big shift

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for us started about sixteen years ago
when I started my first business, and

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that was I had a three year
old, I was pregnant with my second

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child. I didn't want to just
basically work to pay for daycare, and

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I knew I had to do something. So I started my first like home

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business at the time, and that
was when I first made that decision like

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I'm going to make a shift.
And so it initially started as like a

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survival like I need to be able
to survive, and it shifted me into

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this state of just running after success
and deciding I wasn't gonna continue living the

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way that I was living. The
next shift for me was in twenty ten

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when my son was diagnosed with autism
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from the medical world. Simultaneously,
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tell you good luck. You know, I had a pity party for myself

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for a couple of months, you
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everything, and then I was like, fuck this, I can I say

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that on par Okay, I'm going
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And so you know, my son
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it was because I took that power
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was probably the thing that really changed
my health and just kind of got me

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to where I am now. Okay, So I will say this, because

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of the changes that we made because
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our diet and our health, I
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husband and I have aged substantially better
than our peers. Like it was that

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that that rock bottom thing that was
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make those changes that now here we
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thankful that that happened, because if
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be sitting here in the cha I
wouldn't be sitting in this chair across from

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you, but if I was,
I would probably be fifty pounds heavier,

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dealing with all kinds of chronic health
issues, not feeling good about myself,

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right, you know what I mean? Good? And I'm glad you're sitting

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in this chair. We have to
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are with a host of spoiled milk. She's an influencer and a whole lot

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of other things. Broke rash.
We are going to get into a lot

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of that because I have a bunch
of questions. But I got to take

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a break right after this and we
are back. Being an influencer means that

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you are setting yourself up for a
whole lot of haters. Did you instantly

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learn to tune that out or is
it still to this day? You're like,

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every time you go on social media, you pay attention to that.

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How do you tune out that noise? I mean, yeah, it's the

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louder you are, the more people
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I think over the years, I've
gotten used to it. You know,

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people are going to have opinions.
I always that's what you know. I

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work with women and I help women
make money online. I help influence ers

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leverage their platform, and people don't
want to put themselves out there because they're

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afraid of judgment. And I'm like, why do you care? Like those

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people aren't paying your bills. Like
people are going to have opinions of you

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regardless, no matter what you do. And so it definitely has taken me

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time in developing thick skin to just
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now. Jason, I will say
he deals with it a lot better than

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I do. I think he really
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it. I love it as long
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but I definitely see how it can
shut people down who aren't maybe strong enough

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to handle it. Well. You
know, when you set some goals and

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you achieve some of them, I
think it's positive to share them. I

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talked a little bit on that podcast
with Jason about this, and as you

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said, and most people are just
trying to get through the hour, much

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less the day, and especially if
you are a parent, which I can

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I can understand from a distance,
not up close. It is a shit

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storm trying to survive every single day
as a parent, which is why I

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am not one seems awful, um, but when you were in a place

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like this, a lovely part of
the world. You are in Palm Beach

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and it is beautiful. It does
you have a choice to look at these

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twenty thirty forty million dollar homes and
look at them with envy or look at

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them with motivation. And I get
that people are most people are. You

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can barely, you know, get
through the week and pay your bills and

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cover that. It's really hard to
see that as an option. But if

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you have an incremental goal that substantially
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or your comfort zone and sort of
shoot for that, that was what he

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said. Is the biggest mistake that
people make, at least when it comes

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to money, is they don't they
don't make goals big enough. How do

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you go from a day of just
like, listen, I'm just trying to

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survive. I'm just trying to get
some answers here too. Is there a

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path for me to have a second
home or a first home, or a

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boat, or move or private school
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you sort of harness the negativeness and
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Mindset. I mean I have.
Here's the thing, I have a

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really hard time dealing with people who
make excuses because we're all dealing with shit,

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all the things that you just talked
about. Everyone has, no matter

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what walk of life you come from, everyone's dealing with something, right.

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It's up to you how you choose
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came from nothing and I've made something
out of myself because I chose to.

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I wasn't lucky, I wasn't privileged, No one gave me anything. Like

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I've worked my ass off for everything
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if it comes to me, awesome, or I'll chase it down if I

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have to, you know. So
it really boils down to mindset, like

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I'm just coming off of. I
was sick for a few days and that

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was really triggering for me after being
ill for four years. I actually had

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to go to the er because my
fever got really high and I got dehydrated.

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I had to go get fluids and
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I mean it all comes back to
mindset. It's like, Okay, I

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have to make a mindset shift,
right. You have to make a mindset

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shift, and you have to be
intentional, and you have to work on

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your mindset every day. Every day
is not going to be great. But

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as long as each day, as
long as you don't stew in it,

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right, as long as you don't
stay there, like if you need to

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have a bad day, like I
have a bad day, but just don't

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let yourself. Don't let yourself stay
there. And you mentioned about the homes

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here, and it's very interesting that
you said that, because I feel like

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when we were in Colorado, we
got a little complacent because people out there

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are just kind of like m into
nature and hiking, you want to be

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out, yeah, in Colorado.
Yeah, It's just it's a different vibe

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there, whereas here, like people
are motivated, you know, like we've

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met a lot of really cool people
here and it actually helped us step our

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game up and start to dream again. So you can look at those houses

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and you can have envy, and
you can think negative things about those people,

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But the truth is a lot of
those people, you know, of

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course, some of them are not
first generation money, right, but at

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somewhere, somewhere along the line,
somewhere, and the someone in their family

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had to say this stops with me. I'm going to make a change,

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and that's what my husband and I
are doing. So you can look at

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those people and you can be envious, or you can look at them and

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you can be inspired. And that's
that's what they do for us here.

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Like I'm glad we move because now
I'm around bigger things and it's giving me

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something more to work for. Because
you always have to have goals out in

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front of you. If you stop, you're just gonna stop. Like if

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you stop dreaming and you stop setting
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And you have got to get rid
of the words why her or why him,

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Like you have got to stop looking
at other people as envy. You

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have to look at the other people
as there are possibilities out there. We

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will bring this up on the Bachelor
and Bachette party show, but there's a

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different energy between we. I shot
a pilot for VH one about this years

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ago. It was called Last Night, and it was about men and women's

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bachelorette and bacherette parties, and the
men wanted to go to bachelor parties to

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do bad things. The women wanted
the bride to do bad things because there

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was a certain element of jealousy and
cattiness that they did not necessarily support her

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in this. And when you surround
yourself with that negative energies, you should

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be like, great, she's getting
married. That means it's possible for somebody

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to find happiness and love or whatever. That's a good environment to be around.

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When you were in a wealthy community
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being pissed off at the one percent
or the point ooo one percent that is

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here. You should be like,
there are possibilities for people from all walks

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of life who took all paths to
get there. When you surround yourself and

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you get rid of the envy of
people around you, you should want people

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to be happy and successful and not
look at it. It just means the

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odds are better than you thought.
That people can make it right. You

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have to believe that anything and everything
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don't believe that it's possible, then
it's not. And you're originally from where

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I'm originally from a really small town
in Alabama. Okay, so a really

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small town in Alabama? Are you? Is there always a point where you're

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like, I want to get out
of my small town in Alabama, because

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most of people in your small town
in Alabama are probably still in your small

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town in Alabama, just like every
town. Eighty percent of people stay in

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their hometown regardless of what that is
for most of their lives. Some of

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that is habits, some of that
as laziness, some of his family.

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Sometimes it's just a really nice town. I don't know, I grew up

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in a really nice town. I
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that's me. Were you when did
you be? Like? I want to

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get beyond my small town in Alabama. I want to get out of Alabama?

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Like how did those increments go?
As long as I could remember,

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I mean, I grew up in
poverty, so I remember from a very

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young age being like I, why
aren't we rich? I don't understand,

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Like why do we not have money? Like I see other people on TV

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that have money, like I want
more? So yeah, I always wanted

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to get out. And don't get
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I'm from. And I appreciate my
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like really raised me to have morals
and you know, really developed who I

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am underneath. But I felt that
in Anyone who is from a small town

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probably understands this, that there's a
very limited thinking, especially when people never

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get outside of that area. So
I knew I had to I had to

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get out, right, you can
always go back, but you got to

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get out to know whether or not
you want to go back. You've got

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to leave at some point. I
don't care how comfortable you're right, you've

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got to go try it. We
bring that up on this podcast all the

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time that we think if you are
in a committed relationship or you or you're

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not, you need to move at
least seven hundred miles every seven years,

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yep, like a real distance,
not just from here to there, not

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two towns over, like really experience
what it's like to live in a different

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part of the country, even even
different part of the world. You will

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discover more things about yourself than you
ever will about the new town that you're

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in or the town that you left
behind. And I think people don't do

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that, and I'm always you know, we run into a lot of people

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who are frustrated in their love,
dating, relationship environment. They're going to

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the same bar they went to in
high school. You know, they're recycling

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the boyfriend from junior year. They're
hoping the guy down the street who they

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had a crush on him got divorced, Like there has to be a different

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sandbox to kick around in, you
know, I know those people. Actually,

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do you feel when you're in communication
with them? Do you feel envy

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from them? Do you feel like
you go brook like what are you?

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What are you getting back? I
just you know, like my best friend

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growing up, that's her kind of
situation. Like she's my age, she's

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divorced, she's doing the whole dating
app thing, still in the same you

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know, like small town, and
I I just feel bad for her,

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Like, you know, she's not
like envious. She's always been supportive of

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me. But I just I just
like, wow, like I'm just I'm

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grateful that I'm not in that situation. Slight pivot here, and not to

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sound like you're gay, best friend, but you have fantastic hair, and

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I know you take great pride in
that. Somebody told me this a couple

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of months ago, and she was
actually a doctor. She said, the

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thing that people underestimate about what is
going to help them look youthful and vibrant

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is not the color of their hair. They spend too much time worrying about

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gray's. It's the health of their
hair. And they say a healthy hair

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frames the face and sets up everything
for youthfulness. You believe in that,

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And how do we get healthier hair? Oh yeah, I mean you have

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wrong hairstyle and it can age you
twenty years for sure. One of the

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things that people don't know women,
especially is that our hair actually ages faster

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than our skin. We're very busy
slathering anti aging skincare products all over our

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face and our neck and the rest
of our body, but we're completely neglecting

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our hair and our scalp. And
your hair health starts with your scalp.

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So if you support your scalp and
you support a scalp health, then you're

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going to have healthy hair growth.
And then of course a lot of that

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has to do with what you're putting
into your body as well, like what

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is your lifestyle, Like what are
you eating and you running through the drive

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through at McDonald's or you know,
And if you have that healthy glow,

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you're going to make yourself attractive and
more noticeable and just look like you give

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a shit. And people worry way
too much about the color the grays and

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don't worry about the rest of the
stuff. I don't care personally about my

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hair, but I have hair.
It's easier for me to say, you

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know, the balding men out there
like to do something, you know,

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work on it, book healthier,
whatever. All right, I'm gonna let

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you plug all your stuff and the
podcast in a second. But this is

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your first time on the show.
You have to think back to your many

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many years, to your swinging single
days. We play something called worst date

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or first date, So you have
to either give us the absolute worst date

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you ever went on your life or
the greatest first date you ever went on

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in your life. Your choice.
Oh my gosh. So here's the thing

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you said, you're swinging twenties.
I met Jason when I was nineteen.

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Okay, Well, in your Alabama
swinging teen days, I dated a few

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losers. I'll just say that.
Well, what was your first date with

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your husband at nineteen? Do you
remember? Is it going down to the

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well? I'll tell you the story
of how we met. How about that

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deal? Okay? So we met
in English class. We both enrolled in

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our local community college, and we
were in English one oh one and we

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kind of had ran in some of
the same circles. We never met each

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other. Well, he walked in
and I was immediately enamored, like who

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was this guy? Was attracted to
his energy and so it had been a

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few weeks and then finally we go
to a computer lab. Okay, so

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this is dating it a little bit. So this is before we carried like

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computers in our hand, right,
so you had to go to the computer

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lab. You had to go to
the computer lab for whatever the project was.

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And he comes in late, the
last seat available sitting next to me

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at the computer lab, and so
I'm over there feverishly typing because I've always

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been a social media girl, even
like from the very beginning. And he's

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like, so what are you What
are you doing over there? And I'm

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like, I'm just talking to my
friend in New York. And keep in

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mind we're in Alabama, so I
don't, you know, have a network

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at this point, but like,
oh, you're talking to someone in New

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York and like New York, Like
now, that's like no big deal.

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But in the year two thousand,
we had just survived y two k Okay,

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this is where we're at. And
he was like, what is that

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and I was like, oh,
it's AOL instant Messenger, and he says,

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I know, right, and he's
I probably downloaded it illegally on the

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school computer too. Now that I
think about it, I'm sure it wasn't

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on there, but or installed it. But he says, hey, I

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just got a computer for Christmas,
actually, and would you mind coming over

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to my place after class and showing
me how to install this program. So

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of course I'm like, well,
yeah, like, because I totally had

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the hots for this guy. So
that was really kind of our first date.

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I had a tutoring session afterwards because
I sucked at math and my tutor

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happened to live in the same neighborhood
as him, So I was like,

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after my math session, which I
totally didn't pay attention to you at all,

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I'm like, I'll swing by and
I'll show you how to install this

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program. And so I go over
to his house and I show him how

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to install the program, and we
hung out and talked for a while,

448
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and I remember I was so angry
he didn't not so angry, Okay,

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I was disappointed that he didn't try
to kiss me, like the first time

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that I went over to his place. He's like, all right, see

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you later and shut the door.
And I was like, what come to

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find out he had a girlfriend he
had to break up with. But years

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00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.599
later I found out. I mean
it was probably like ten or more years

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later. All of a sudden,
we were talking to someone and he tells

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00:29:59.799 --> 00:30:06.960
them that he actually ran home after
class and he deleted AOL and some messenger

456
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:10.799
off of his computer. So he
played he acted like, you know,

457
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played dumb. He acted like he
didn't know what AOL and messenger was so

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he could get me to come back
to there you go, AOL instant messenger

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00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.640
love and there you go. Dumped
the girl, kiss the girl. That's

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a good lesson. Good, that's
a good story. He had integrity.

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But I mean, I can't remember
like a worst day. The worst day

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I ever had with Jason was our
second wedding anniversary when we went to Macaroni

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Grill and his card declined. Yeah, he told the same story. Wow,

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that was good. My first time
in Alabama. And this is going

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back to the phone book days.
There were a phone book I had.

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I was looking for restaurants and I
saw under Italian restaurants and I just saw

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Dominoes. And I was like,
I'm not in New York anymore. No,

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But I just never the respect I
got when I sent us from New

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York. Somebody goes, either go
where you're from. I go to New

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York where New York City? And
they go, oh, do you have

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sex with supermodels? And I'm like, well, no, there's like twelve

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million people there, maybe four have
sex with supermodels. Leo is one of

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them. I was not one of
them. That was my Alabama are you

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know, like for me, like, my impression of New York City was

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like watching Friends in the nineties.
Growing up as a tea a foreigners learn

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00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.559
English. They watch Friends at six
people talk at the same time. That's

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not a good impression of New York
because nobody affords that size apartment at that

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age. So anyway, all right, plug your plug your world to the

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00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:30.519
world, plug my world. Yeah. So check out my podcast Spoil Milk.

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It's the Hot Girls Midlife Survival Guide. It's really the health and beauty

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podcast for women over forties. So
if you're into health and beauty or you

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just really you want to make some
improvements in your life and you don't really

483
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know where to start, that's really
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your health, and it's going to
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about some other things too. Like
I said, my mission is to help

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women live their happiest, healthiest,
hottest lives in their forties and beyond.

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You can find me on Instagrams where
I like to hang out Brook rash.

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That's that's all I got. There, you go, you find yourself in

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your forties. You were good.
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