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Hey, everybody, welcome back to
the episode of Challenge. The podcast All

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about the Challenge this season is on
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Sometimes it's on CBS. We don't
know what the fuck are you going on

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anymore? As usual, I am
Brian sitting across the internet is bi Une

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and also across the internet, Zachy
Bananas. Hey everybody, thanks for stopping

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going on, right, I don't
know. Uh yeah, Should I do

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it more often all the time?
Yeah? Really forcing some energy into good

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that's what we need. That we
need that we're very low energy. All

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right? Do you want to jump
into this episode? Oh? Boy?

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Do I? This one's called Brave
New World. It's episode six of this

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season. Rumor tells me that there's
twelve episodes this season, so if that's

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true, we're halfway through, and
it seems like not enough players have been

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eliminated before being halfway through the season, but here we are. We need

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a purge, yeah, or just
like a finale that starts with six teams

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or something crazy like that. That's
kind of fun. We'll see. So,

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as you recall, last week ended
on a cliffhanger, this one picks

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right back up or the cliffhanger left
off. That is, we're back in

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the arena Kiki and Durrell. They're
up on the you know, up in

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the whatever bleachers whatever whatever we're gonna
call that thing, and they have to

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decide who they're gonna throw in against
Wes and Zara, and uh, Durrell

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just sort of doesn't know who to
throw in. He's kind of stumbling looking

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for what to say, and eventually
they just decide to throw in Ben and

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Casey. Um when he says this, I don't know just because they you

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know, this show now shows things
out of order and stuff and it's really

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weird. Yeah, And so it
doesn't seem super clear as to why they

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picked Ben and Casey at this moment. But uh, Wolfie, why do

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you think they picked Ben and Casey
at this moment? Or just in general,

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why did they now now that I
know why they picked them? Either

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one cleared up for us just clear. MTV shows us that at some point

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Ben was trying to break up the
Aussee alliance, but maybe get into someone's

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head and to Bill, you're at
the bottom, bro, what you're following

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them for? So drilled in like
that. So Durrell is like, oh,

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yeah, Ben can fuck off.
He's like Casey, Casey's just getting

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caught in the middle. But yeah, I think generally nobody trusts Ben anymore.

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Even his allies are sort of like, well, wait a minute,

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this guy lies and is flying off
the hand of one doing weird shit.

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Yes, for sure. All right, So but Ben thinks as he's walking

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down, he thinks that Sarah and
Danny are actually behind this move. He

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thinks Sarah and Danny has something to
do with why he's being thrown in there.

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The rest of the episode proves that
that's not right. But why Zach,

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Why does he think that that Sarah
and Danny are behind this? I

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think just because you know, he
kind of went against our alliance and fired

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the first shot that anything against him, he's going to assume retribution. Yeah,

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um, yeah, I think that's
probably right. So all right,

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So the channel or the elimination is
between Wes and Zara and Ben and Casey.

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This one is called Herculeans strength.
I mean this is kind of good

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though, two sort of bigger teams. Yeah, well man against each other.

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Yeah, I think that was a
really good, good move, throwing

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in Ben and Casey. I don't
think they're making any enemies by throwing in

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Ben and Casey because so many people
want them out anyway. Yeah. That

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really the only enemy they're making is
Ben and Casey themselves, which they didn't

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trust anyway. Yeah. So this
is an elimination where one teammate has to

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hold up these weights, the other
teammate has to solve math equations, and

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for every math equation that you get
right, you can put a weight on

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the other team's player. Whoever ends
up drop of these weights first loses,

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obviously, obviously. So this is
where Zara's dyslexia comes back into place.

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She mentioned her dyslexia a couple episodes
ago, and now she says it again,

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and then that her dyslexi even extends
to like math problems and math equations.

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She's very unsure about doing math,
So Wes will do the math.

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Zara will hold the weights, which
I thought was a very interesting choice because

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you would think the men would be
holding the weights, and so I sort

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of thought, as Zara is getting
strapped up, I was like, all

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right, Ben versus Zara, Like, Zara is definitely gonna lose, like

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no offense to Tsara. She seems
strong, but Ben is stronger. Yeah,

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but Ben also decided to do the
math problems. So Casey and Zara

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are holding the weights, Ben and
Wes are doing the math. Still feel

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like that's that's not evenly matched.
No, it's no, because Casey is

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also very strong. Yeah. I
was like, Casey's pretty strong. I

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think she could beat her. But
then at my head, I'm just like,

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but I know Wes is pretty smart, so he may zip through these

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math problems real quick. Yeah,
so maybe it will be more competitive than

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I thought. Yeah, it turns
out it wasn't. It was not very

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competitive. I thought since I saw
that Zara was holding the weight, like

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as I got they lost already.
Is that because you thought Ben would be

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holding the weights or just the Tsar
is not as strong as Casey either.

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I thought, you know that Zara
was the physically weakest of all four people

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in that elimination, so no matter
who you know, Ben or Casey then

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went up there. I felt like
they'd Bill hold way more than her.

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Yeah. I think I wonder if
the hope was that Ben couldn't do this

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math and Wes could just do the
math so much faster that maybe they could

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load up Casey with a bunch of
weight. I don't I don't know.

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I don't know what the strategy here
was, but it seemed weird. We

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learned that Ben is not holding the
weight because of his shoulder injury. I

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think that's the same one that we
saw him get in Challenge USA. I

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believe so. So right out of
the gate, Ben is struggling with the

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math, Wes is not struggling with
the math. West comes out with a

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pretty good lead, starts stacking weights
on Casey's thing. But Ben does catch

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up pretty quickly, and this thing's
over about as soon as it starts.

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Zara drops the Tzar's out it.
Ben did one of those like Hrder Hurder

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math problems, which adds more weight, so he was able to catch up

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to the last real quick. Yep, all right, well that's the elimination.

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Yeah, Les goes home. I'm
sure Zach was happy. Yeah,

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how do you feel about that?
Zach? I was very happy? Um?

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No, actually, I think at
that time, I was wanting Ben

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and Casey go home just because I
thought it would better protect the other people

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I liked. So I don't know. I think Ben just needs to get

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punished for his move. Yeah.
What did you guys think of Wes's like

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going away speech to the MVPs as
he was leaving the arena? So to

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him, is he trying to build
relay chips for the next time that they're

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all on? He'd be like,
Hey, remember when I congratulated you.

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I'm pretty cool guy, right,
you should listen to me. We should

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hang out. Yeah. Probably is
that what it was? Some sort of

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a strategy move. Maybe I don't
know. Yeah, I don't get it.

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I cannot see any other reason for
him doing it, Yeah, other

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than trying to just build a friendship
with him leaving. Yeah, I don't

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know. Wests does have these moments
where he's really just self important and even

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like condescending, and this seemed like
one of those, you know, where

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he's like, you know, I
don't know. They had this like sort

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of air about him of like,
you guys, you know, your MVPs

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were the vets. We made this
show what it is. But welcome to

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the family. Like I don't know, it just seemed a little one of

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those like humble brag type of situations. I showed it. I don't either

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West. I like West, but
I like him about every other season.

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I like him best when I don't
see him for a for a few seasons.

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H all right, And so Zara's
last words that we see her say

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as next time, we'll drink the
fucking drink. Does it all come down

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to this? Guys? Is it? Are they in there just because they

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didn't drink the drink? Are they
going home just because of that? No?

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I don't remember how the scores fell
out last episode, but it definitely

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didn't help their situation any well.
I think there was somebody else that got

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in the negatives just like they did, but not as deep into the negatives.

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And I can remember who it was, but um Amber and whoever.

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No, they overcame their deficit somehow. I can't remember who it does,

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It doesn't matter, doesn't matter,
nope. Um all right. So next

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scene we get we have Sarah,
Danny, Grant, and Emily. They're

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all sitting around and all of them
are talking about how Ben is gonna spin

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out now and start causing all this
chaos um, which I don't know.

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Do you guys think is that true? It could be true. YEP,

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I think it's true. Meanwhile,
Durrell is just sort of sitting around wondering

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what he's gonna say to Ben and
Casey when they approach him, because you

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know that's always what happens. They
come in like why why us? Why

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did you throw us in? Durrell
has to come up with a good excuse

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for it. Well he doesn't.
He's not able to come up with a

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good excuse at all. Yeah,
I think the truth. I mean,

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unless Ben and Casey are dumb,
they have to know, like, hey,

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we just tried to turn against Australia. He's paired with an Australian.

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Yeah, it seems like it could
have been handled really logically, but it

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wasn't. Durrell just you know,
as we see them confront Durell and Kiki,

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Durrell just says, I just didn't
know what name to say, so

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I just said your name, which
is like the worst possible explanation, especially

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if if you know that you have
to come up with a reason, and

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then that's the you can come up
with. Comandrell you've played this game enough,

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come up with a better one.
Carlin says, Darrell looked like a

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big dummy. He really did.
This is the first time for a while

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that I've sort of been like,
Darell, what's up? I don't know.

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He usually manages the stuff better than
this time. All right, So

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next we get Troy and Amber.
They're talking to Tor. Troy is starting

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to see that the Asses aren't really
looking out for him Emily and Grant,

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They're not really including him in conversations, they're not really helping him. He

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sees that he's at the bottom of
this alliance and I don't know. We

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saw Ben tell him that, but
I'm not sure if Ben needed to tell

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him. It seems obvious to everybody. And Ambers says that Australia is falling

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apart and she'll throw in the Aussies
if she needs to. That's what we

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call foreshadowing. Guys. Yep,
all right, one to the challenge.

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Were you guys distracted about how weird
this entrance was into the challenge? Did

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you even notice? I didn't notice? Oh yeah, were you too busy

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texting again? Wolfe to to actually
be watching the show that we're talking about

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on a podcast. Yeah, I
was. Actually I actually watched it at

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work today after we've had lunch.
Oh nice, So maybe that's why I

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missed it. Could be it was
just really weird, like we had we

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have slow motion walking all the time, but this was like super slow and

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over a really long period of time
and they had these weird slow cross fades

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and this like super strong epic music. I don't know, it was really

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distracting. Chat room, am I
do you agree with me? This was

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weirder than usual. I'm gonna go
with yes. Uh. This challenge,

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guys is called a rocket man's kind
of a dumb challenge. Yeah, why

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I tell me about it? Wolfie? What are you doing this challenge?

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Uh? Well, you have to
jump off ledge onto one of those giant

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inflatable air bags and send your partner
like flying and they have to fly over

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like these uh tiered uh I don't
know what the fuck do you call them

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bars? Bars whatever? And if
you uh do that, you get time

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taken off of your total time and
then both have to swim out, grab

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puzzle pieces, swim back, put
these put the most complicated puzzles challenge together

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and then time will stop. Yeah, Why was this even a puzzle?

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Why didn't they just ring a bell
at the end where they usually have to

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do this stuff? The puzzle thing
was nonsense, a two piece puzzle.

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Give me a break. Have them
go out, go around a buoy and

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then come back and then come and
ring the bell. That's that's all you

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have to do. Yeah, I
agree, Yeah, calling that a puzzle

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is super weird. Zach, What
did you think any any opinion about this

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thing? I mean, I thought
the puzzle is dumb as well, But

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I loved the blob because we used
to do that summer camps. I was

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like, oh, I've done this, and we actually had like hoops and

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bars up in the air that we
could try to go through as well.

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Were you up that high in the
air? I mean it felt like it,

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But I was also like, you
know ten, so if I seemed

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a lot higher than it really was. Yeah, I've never done one of

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these, bof we have you done
one of these? Oh? No,

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idea, I'm so fucking fat though, I would send somebody flying into the

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atmosphere. Probably so Sidey said,
it felt like there was something epic that

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was going to happen. When they
walked I'm assuming she means that montage you

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were talking about. Yeah, and
Chris says I was waiting for them to

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do something with this setup. Yeah, Syndey does have a point. It's

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harder to one with those big pieces, That's true. I don't know.

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Maybe that maybe that slowed them down
a little bit. I don't know,

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But just like Challenge has been doing
lately, they don't really tell us exactly

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what the rules are, like how
much time is deducted for which bar that

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you pass pass over? As well
as like if you knock over the bar,

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does that mean you cleared it?
Because most people knocked over that top

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bar as they cleared it, but
we don't know if that counted. I

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don't know. I wish they just
would be more transparent with this. I

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was wondering about knocking the bar down
too. But they actually did show us

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at the beginning how many seconds each
bar was worth. Oh did I didn't

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see that? What were the second
what were the what were they worth?

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If you get over the top one, it was sixty seconds off, middle

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was thirty seconds off, bottom was
fifteen seconds off. Okay, interesting,

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Okay, well I totally missed that. Well, then that does help point

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out how some of these times are
people who didn't get the higher bar.

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Some of their times don't aren't very
good. Yeah, Well, as this

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challenge is starting, Jordan has a
confessional where he talks about seeing cracks in

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this US Australia a lion. The
scene has seemed kind of impenetrable, so

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UK was kind of freaking out.
But Jordan now is part of the UK

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team season opening for them. If
they can sort of nurture that chaos and

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make them fight amongst themselves, maybe
he can make a little progress there.

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Yeah. So I don't have a
ton of notes about what happens in this

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competition. There's only two runs we
really need to talk about. Yeah,

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what's the first one? First one, obviously is Grant trying to jump off

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this thing, completely fucking it up, Like literally all you had to do

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was like fall forward and most of
the work would have been done for you.

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Yeah, of course, Grant like
for some reason jumps into the air

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and then falls immediately to the left, completely misses like the bag pretty much

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altogether. It hits like the side
of it. And then John A like

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jumps like two feet in the air
that just goes right into the water.

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They don't hit any of these bars. Yeah, super weird. How did

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Grant fuck this up so well?
Lab it's where because I know it's when

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he's up on the platform. If
you look, he's actually already like standing

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sideways towards where he jumped instead of
like facing it straight on. Yeah,

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it seemed like he had some strategy
in mind because he hit the bag at

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a weird angle that seemed like he
had to purposefully do it that way.

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It seemed like he was trying to
do something and it just did not work

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the way he expected or something.
I don't know. There's like two little

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like airbags connected to it, and
he got all tangled up, and then

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he swam and he was talking about
how his knee was all jacked up but

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he kept going, which kudos.
Yeah, he says he fucking booted his

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knee. I like the I do
like the asse slang. I gotta be

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honest with you on that one.
Yeah, And then uh, Emily's run

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with Yes. Yeah, she's an
Olympic swimmer. Yeah, and oh my

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god, it was amazing to watch
her though. She was incredible in the

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water. Yeah. Absolutely, it
looked like everybody else was just standing still

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and she's just like flying through the
water. Yeah, she went and she

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was a puzzle piece up there,
and then she went back and got yeses

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and was kind of dragged yes along
crazy. Yes, her performance was unbelievable.

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Yeah, some of some of my
other notes. Justine's launch was also

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unbelievable. She was I think the
only one that I made note of that

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cleared that top bar and didn't touch
it, didn't knock it down. And

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then I guess before the challenge she
told Bananas that she couldn't swim, but

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she looked like she could swim.
To me, she was rocking that challenge

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pretty good. She was killing it. Yep. Cindy says, as a

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former swim teacher, she was great
to watch. Yeah, clearly knows what

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she's doing in the water. Yes. Carlo says, I would have loved

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to see what West, well,
what West would say about her swimming and

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if he would try to compare herself
itself to her. I would love to

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see that too, Yeah, christ
Yeah, I have a note that Jody

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was pulling Benha out of the water. I always like it when the women

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can sort of outperform the men and
show him up. A little bit,

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and Jody did not surprised. Jodey's
a rock star with this stuff. Uh

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yeah, So obviously Grant and john
A they were last place. Grant was

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escort at home in an ambulance,
so we don't even see him anymore.

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But john A's last straight to elimination
with her and TJ always says this one

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second separated first and second place?
Do we believe this bullshit? Guys?

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Is it really one second? Probably
not. It feels like it's always one

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second. Maybe I'm dumb. I
believe TJ. He wouldn't like to us.

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I fully think you lies. He
always does the stuff. He's like

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it all. It came down to
two tenths of a second, Like is

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it always that close? I don't
know. I don't I don't buy that

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stuff. Uh well, first and
second place are Kelly and and Tris and

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Kaz and Jordan. Those are the
top two performers and ultimately it's Tristan and

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Kelly in that win this one.
Are we surprised? Guys? What do

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you guys think about this one?
I'm a little surprised because that means yes,

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ate it so much in this challenge, like fucking Emily. Like,

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like we said, swam got her
piece, went back out, swam and

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met yes and grabbed his piece,
went in but it together that had to

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swim back out to grab him.
So obviously he fucked their team up completely.

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And also I can't remember it didn't
They also not make it over the

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top rung on the launch. I
don't think it showed yes as launch that

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I yes, yes, only went
through the second one, right, Okay,

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yeah he missed the first one.
So yeah, if they made them

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say how they had to like make
up thirty seconds now, Oh okay,

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that makes sense. All right,
Well that's the end of this challenge.

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As they walk out of here,
TJ says, no stalemates. Yeah,

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menacingly, as if that's a threat
at all. We know what happens with

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the standmate. Think it's not a
big deal. Yeah, shut up,

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TJ. Yeah. So as they're
leaving, ben Ha thinks that he and

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Jody are going to be the easy
targets. Um, they're the only Argentinians

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left. Everyone has already said their
name that it's gonna be easy to keep

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saying their name, So they've just
sort of got to deal with what to

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do here. Yeah, next up, we have Tory talking to Danny and

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Sarah. Uh, Tori is I
don't know. Tory is not good at

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running these conversations. Not she's not
clear, she's not like super clear about

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what she's trying to say, and
not forceful enough. And I don't know.

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There's just every time she's on the
screen, because she's gonna try to

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lead this, she needs to just
be a hard ass about shit. Yeah,

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just straight up say shit, rather
than trying to beat around the bush.

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And well, I mean, you
know, we shouldn't. It's like,

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just say it, just say hey, don't vote your I like George,

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I don't want him to go in. Yeah, all you got to

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say. And she tries here.
She says that they're only options. They

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can only throw on Australians or Jody
and Ben hot and that's all they that's

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all they can do. And I
think Danny and Sarah just like, well,

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why we don't have to do that
at all. He can do whatever

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we want. So this is where
they have the awkward conversation. It's uh,

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Bananas comes in in the middle of
it. It seems clear that like

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Banana's Tory, these other vets are
trying to get Sarah and Danny to just

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go along with what they say,
and Sarah and Danny are basically just like,

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no, we're not gonna Um,
Zach, I'm interested in your perspective

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on these chats because Bananas, to
me, comes off looking like a major

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prick. What how did you interpret
these conversations? Um? I didn't think

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he has a park here, you
know. I thought, you know,

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like, I don't know if he's
dessarily given them the best advice, but

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I felt like he was trying to
give it in a way that wasn't condescending,

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and Sarah just kind of like flew
off the handle. I felt like

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he was absolutely being condescending. We'll
figure the tiebreaker was Banana's condescending or not.

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Look, I don't know how to
feel about this conversation because I fucking

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hate both of them. So I
was just sitting back and enjoying those two

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going at each other. I'm like, yeah, fuck both of you.

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But you can't you hate both and
still be able to say, like,

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well, Bananas is worse. I
don't know if he was worse. Um,

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he did have a point. He's
like, I feel like if I

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was going to be on survivor.
I would sit back and listen to them.

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That's not true whatsoever. He would
just do whatever the fuck he wanted.

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Yeah, but the point was was
obvious. But yeah, they had

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zero interests. So was Johnny Banana's
being a prick? I mean yes,

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because he was breathing. M Is
it specific to the situation though, Yeah,

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I guess I do feel like it
was specific because he kept saying like,

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I just wish you would listen to
me. I just wish you would

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listen to me. And I just
think like, well, they were listening

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with to you. They just disagreed. They just don't think that you're right,

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which is different, Like it's not
they're not ignoring him, they're listening

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and then saying like, well,
you don't have my interest at heart.

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And that was clear when Sarah said
like that, you know, just show

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me the big picture, tell me
what the big picture looks like, and

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i'll, you know, I'll see
if I want to work with you,

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and Bananas was like, oh no, no, no, we don't do

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big picture stuff. We only focus
on right now and right now you need

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to do this. I don't know, it just seemed very condescending. The

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thing I did like is that he
would do that thing where he starts rubbing

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his eyes, like, and Sarah
would totally call him out. Yeah,

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go ahead, start doing that,
She's crazy thing. If he would do

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something else, she would just call
him out on that too, And to

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the point where he just got up
and walked away. And I'm like,

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damn it, don't do stuff.
I like Sarah because you're fucking annoying.

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And it's okay to change your opinion. Wolfee. If Sarah makes you're happy

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in this moment, you can you
can start liking Sarah. No no,

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no, no no, I already
hated their five seconds later. Well,

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I'm not the biggest Sarah fan either, but she's right here. I really

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I am fully on team Sarah in
this seems Sarah and Danny in this conversation.

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I think Sarah handled it exactly perfectly. When you're dealing with somebody like

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bananas, um, and yeah,
fuck bananas, Zach. I'm glad you

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agree with me and all that.
I'm sure you would love to fuck bananas.

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You'd be so lucky. But you
know, this conversation between these guys,

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uh, it probably got their nerves
kind of frazzled. Don't you think,

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Wolfee, I'm sure. What do
you think they could do if they

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needed to kind of calm down a
little bit? Uh? Sometimes I've heard

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some CBD tell me more. You have

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and get fifteen percent off. Nice. I would like to see some of

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these challengers with the crazy eyes like
Sarah Head in this conversation. But also,

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yes, Brad is my second example. Get these crazy ad people to

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take some CBD and see if they
can come out looking like normal humans.

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Yeah, see if their eyes kind
of go back into their soul a little

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bit and just relax them. It's
got to recede into the eye sockets a

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little bit. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, buy that CBD guys.

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checkout. Yeah all right, Well,

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we're in due deliberation. I guess
it's or nomination for that's it. What

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do we call him? This process
here, let's good deliver the deliberation.

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We'll do that. Carlos. Kellyan
falls in that category. She probably needs

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some stressing in her life. Yes, she Kelly and sometimes has the crazy

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eyes too. When you can see
the whites with the white all the way

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around, that's when it gets a
little like whoa, like you got to

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chill out, dude, crazy of
course. Kell Yeah, friend of the

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show, Kellyan love Kellyan. Yes, all right. So as part of

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this deliberation, Amber starts it um
and man, she is pulling no punches

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here. She's basically just like fuck
you, yes, and Emily, I'm

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voting for you, um, fuck
you Sarah and thea I'm voting for you

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too. Uh. And so then
we have a flashback Wolfe you love these

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flashbacks. This just show it on
the show. I know, it's super

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weird. I don't know why they
do these flashbacks. It's really unusual.

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But we see that Ben approached Amber
and told Amber that Tory's crew was gunning

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for her, and he did this
in an effort to sort of pull Amber

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over into their side and get that
get her and Troy to vote along with

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Casey and Ben. Seems like it
worked, right, guys, seems like

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it? Yeah at all, because
we never saw that conversation take place.

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And do you think they actually were
trying to target Amber? Do you think

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they just made that up to turn
to turn Amber against them? Yeah,

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that's the big question, isn't it. I'm not sure. I don't I

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don't have any theories. Do you
have a theory. I don't have a

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theory because I'm mad at MTV for
doing this flashback bullshit? Fuck them?

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What's your theory, Zachy? I
think they made it up because Emily did

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seem pretty surprised about her targeting her
and you know, so I feel like

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Emily didn't see this coming. Yeah, I'm not sure if I if if

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Amber and and uh Troy were targets, but it seems clear that they're at

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the bottom of the Aussee alliance,
um and that maybe they could move up

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in their in their ranks if they
kind of realign with somebody else. Um.

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So I don't know. Well,
we'll see how this strategy ends up.

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But yeah, Emily's pissed. I
don't know. Um. The other

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part I thought was interesting Danny and
Tory, Uh, it's their turn to

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vote, and they basically just say
like, oh, we're not voting yet.

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We want to see what everybody else
is going to do and then we'll

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vote at the end. Uh.
And THEO is not dropping this, He's

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just like fucking say the name,
like it's your turn, Like you go

408
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,359
go go? Who's right? Wollfee, who's right? I would say Theo's

409
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,599
right, Okay, why don't because
don't pull that Oh we're not going to

410
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,200
vote, We're gonna wait to see
whatever Bale says. Bullshit, Just you

411
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:08,319
got your plan. Vote fucking vote. It's your turn. Yeah, vote,

412
00:30:08,519 --> 00:30:11,880
And I would tell everybody like,
no, nobody else go until they

413
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,319
vote. So you're all night if
we have to. What about you,

414
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,279
Zachau? Is that what's the who's
right in this? In this debate?

415
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:22,039
I think Danny's right, you know, as as far as we know,

416
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,400
there's no rules saying you have to
go in a certain order like around the

417
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,640
table. So you know, we
saw last week that they are a team

418
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,279
divided, so I think you know, they don't have a unified decision going

419
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:37,880
in to let them kind of figure
out what's happening and go from there.

420
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,039
Yeah, I agree. I'm also
on team Danny, so sorry, we'll

421
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,000
fore you are outnumbered. It's okay, Sucker has got my back in the

422
00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:49,000
chat room. All right, chat
room, you've gotta vote it. You've

423
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,200
gotta vote to chat room. Who's
right? Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna

424
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,759
sitte with Danny. I think number
one. I just like Danny. I

425
00:30:56,839 --> 00:31:00,160
just think that he and I would
just be best friends forever. I just

426
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,519
like everything about him. But he's
also one like this dude is playing to

427
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:10,880
win. He doesn't care if people
like him. He is just gonna do

428
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,119
the best he can. There are
no rules that say you have to vote.

429
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:19,160
You can just say pass, and
Danny is becoming an expert at figuring

430
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,880
out like, well, I can
follow the rules while also pissing people off

431
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:29,240
and doing things that they might not
want me to do. Because I guess

432
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,119
I don't know if you guys saw
this, but last week for the stale,

433
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,839
the stalemate thing, I guess,
producers intervened and we're like, you

434
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,960
guys cannot have a stalemate. You
have to vote for somebody, and Danny

435
00:31:41,079 --> 00:31:45,359
was just kept being like no,
I'm not like, I'm not gonna So

436
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,599
Danny would not change his vote,
and producers were getting upset with him and

437
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:53,000
everything, but he just stuck to
his guns and wouldn't do it. Did

438
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,440
you read that, Zach too?
I heard about that. Yeah, I

439
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,480
love Danny. I hope he doesn't
push production enough though, where they're like

440
00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,160
too much of a problem child to
bring back. Yeah, I'm not sure

441
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,759
either. There's got to be a
line somewhere where production is not going to

442
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,720
tolerate his ship. But he did
this on Survivor too. Remember, he

443
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:13,519
was really outspoken about that hourglass twist. He said it to Jeff Prope's right

444
00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:16,720
to his face that he hated that. Every like interview that he gave he

445
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,200
said he hated that rule on Survivor. So this is a guy he's you

446
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,960
know, he's playing to win and
he will follow rules, but he will

447
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,880
not just sort of bend to anybody's
will. Former NFL player Yeah, hit

448
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,079
him with that. US Checker says, THEO. Joker says, Team Danny,

449
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880
Chris says THEO. Cindy says,
I see, I see, I

450
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,319
see why they want to wait.
Strategically, However, what happens if everybody

451
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920
keeps passing because of the same thing, voting should be in an order.

452
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,240
Yeah, I kind of I kind
of agree with that, but then we

453
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,039
shouldn't that has to be part of
the rules, like there has to be

454
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:57,920
a blind vote or as to be
like there has to be some way to

455
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,880
do this. But there's nothing.
There's nothing against the rules that just say

456
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,279
pass. So Danny's just saying pass. I'm just not gonna just not gonna

457
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:08,960
do it. Um, And I
don't think he does. I don't have

458
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,359
the nomination order here. I'm certainly
not thoroughly and not correctly, but I

459
00:33:14,359 --> 00:33:17,480
don't think he does vote he does, I can't. They threw a burn

460
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:22,680
vote on someone, So they they
did. They threw a burn vote on

461
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,319
Jordan. Yeah, you're right,
yes, which time surprised Tory let that

462
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,119
happen. Yeah, she kind of
okayed it with Jordan there at the table,

463
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,240
and Jordan's just like fucking say it, just go, let's go,

464
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:37,640
let's go. Yeah, yes,
you're right. So I have the They

465
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,640
voted for Jody and Ben Hah and
Jordan and Kaz, so all right,

466
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,759
so everybody else votes uh blah blah
blah blah, blah, doesn't really matter.

467
00:33:45,839 --> 00:33:50,960
The nominees end up being Jody and
ben Ha and Yes and Emily.

468
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,640
No surprise is here, right,
guys, not at all. Yeah,

469
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,440
as the other two teams are sitting
in that what do they call that Hall

470
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:07,840
of Legends or I don't know whatever
bullshit, and uh, john A is

471
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,079
just sort of wondering, like,
will Grant even be back? How is

472
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:15,679
this gonna work? What's gonna happen? Um, it's never a good thing

473
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:22,400
when your teammate is hallaway in an
ambulance. So she's kind of stressing.

474
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:34,480
So that's it. We'd the elimination. Yes, Uh, TJ calls out

475
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,679
Grant and john A. John A
comes running out, Grant comes hobbling out

476
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:44,639
on these crutches. Uh, this
knee all bandaged up. Bananas is yelling

477
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:50,639
at him from up there, being
rude and inconsiderate. Yeah, super weird.

478
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,880
Okay, Banna's long story short,
believe it or not, Guys,

479
00:34:54,920 --> 00:35:00,960
the guy can't continue in the show
with a but what word did he use

480
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:07,840
for his une his booted knee?
So that's it. Guess he's done zo.

481
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,519
He's going home. Johnny is going
with him, and there will be

482
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:17,760
no elimination. John A's winning streak
comes to an end. Yeah, kind

483
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,159
of kind of a bummer, but
she has a good attitude about it.

484
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,880
Yeah she does. I tend to
feel like we would all be that way

485
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,239
and be like, look, your
knees sucked up. Yeah, big videos

486
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,599
don't like you quit everything. He
gets props for still going after he fucked

487
00:35:32,599 --> 00:35:38,320
his no kidding. TJ gave him
great praise for that too. Are we

488
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:45,400
going to see him back? Probably
not. I don't know. Maybe maybe

489
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:51,800
TJ's worried you took that fucking weird
ass jump off that uh platform for some

490
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:58,360
stupid reason. I don't know if
they will bring back like players from the

491
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,639
international version, but if they do, I think he's a lock to come

492
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:07,199
back. Why do you think that, I think because he's a good competitor,

493
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,079
you know, like I think TJ
is gon't respect the fact he still

494
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:13,960
did the swim after getting injured.
So I think he's just someone that would

495
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,039
you know, be a strong male
that because TJ is the one who picks

496
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:22,920
all the cast members. Sure right, I heard so. I've I've really

497
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,960
liked Grant. I think he's like
funny and personal. I've really enjoyed watching

498
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:34,159
him, but I read on the
MTV Challenge subread the guy's a major prick

499
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,840
and apparently had a very serious girlfriend
during the time he was shooting his season

500
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,639
of Love Island and pursued all these
like fake relationships knowing yet a girlfriend at

501
00:36:46,679 --> 00:36:50,840
home. I really just did it
for the TV time. I don't know,

502
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,800
Zach, do you know anything about
this if you read up on any

503
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,519
of this. I don't. But
doesn't surprise me because I feel like,

504
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,480
on like Love Island in The Bachelor, you have a couple of people season

505
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:07,039
that go on just for the TV
fame while they Yeah, I'm not surprised

506
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,519
that he but I mean that any
of these people would do something like that.

507
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:15,119
But Carlin says he was a major
sick in the Australia season and corrects

508
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:21,280
herself to say he was a major
dick. Yeah that's right, Carlin.

509
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,159
I'm gonna point out your spelling.
Airs. Uh. Well, that's it.

510
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,599
So they are leaving, Yes and
Emily. They say they are now

511
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,760
stranded. They have no alliance anymore. The Australians have sort of disbanded and

512
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:44,079
they are now sort of stuck without
any without any alliances and Kelly and does

513
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,039
not feel great about john A leaving
the game in this way. She thinks

514
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:50,000
Johnny should have been able to fight
to stay there, which I thought was

515
00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:54,119
very like fair thing of Kelly And
to say, yeah, it was nice.

516
00:37:55,599 --> 00:38:00,480
And I guess I'm upset for Kelly
Anne and Tristan that there when basically

517
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:08,079
means nothing. They had no power
to control anything in this elimination. That's

518
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:13,719
they just they won for nothing.
It's really that big of a power though.

519
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,880
You get to pick between two teams
that are determined by the rest of

520
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:21,199
the house. That's not really much
power in this version of the game.

521
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:24,400
I mean, it's at least something. And especially because of the conflict that

522
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,960
she and John Ay had, I
would have liked to see some discussion between

523
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,960
her and john A about Johnny,
who do you want? Why should I

524
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,039
give you what you want after you
what you did to me? You know,

525
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,360
like, I don't know. I
would have liked to see some impact

526
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,880
of this. Yeah, yeah,
And I feel like even though Kelly An's

527
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,000
not happy with how Johnny went home, she got the outcome she probably wanted

528
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:49,119
to. I'm sure she doesn't mind
not having the power. Yeah, but

529
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,079
don't you think she wanted to play
a role in that, like assigning the

530
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:58,159
person to beat John A being able
to celebrate when she lost. I don't

531
00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,079
know. It just feels like Kelly
on was robbed even though John Ay went

532
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:06,400
home Kelly and had didn't influence this. They didn't lose, they got injured.

533
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,039
It just seems sort of like a
like, not really a victory for

534
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:15,519
Kelly in here. I can see
that, sure, all right, glad.

535
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:19,519
I convinced you guys. Yep,
it's my debate training in high school.

536
00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:22,800
I just fucking convinced you guys both. Yea. It took a lot

537
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,519
of arm twisting. Yeah, brainwashed
you. Hey, everybody hit he challengepot

538
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539
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541
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547
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548
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549
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550
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553
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554
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Yes, April twelfth, will do a

555
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:46,199
live watch along of episode seven.
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556
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like seven thirty ish. Yeah,
we'll do a live watch along. We'll

557
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:55,079
hop right into the podcast and that'll
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558
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,119
be fun, so everybody can watch
along with us. You can get our

559
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,719
ongoing comment terry yep, although when
we watch actual episodes, we try not

560
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:13,159
to talk over it. Yep.
Oh that s that's it sweet reviews to

561
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:20,079
him. We don't yep any of
that Zach any social media stuff. All

562
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:24,719
we do about two hours ago.
Um, now that he is giving well,

563
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:31,159
his wife is giving birth to this
Bona state and ak anyway, Yeah,

564
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,400
challenge dad. I love the Challenge
dads, So congratulations to West and

565
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,559
his wife. Yeah. And then
also, uh, the Challenge has been

566
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:50,280
nominated for two MTV Awards today,
first for Best Competition Reality Show, and

567
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,159
then Tory and Devin got nominated for
Best Reality Duo. Oh nice interesting?

568
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:00,599
Yeah, so how embarrassing? How
embarrassing is it going to be when shows

569
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,159
on MTV end up losing in the
category from from the network that I was

570
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,119
fucking a word show. Well,
that's why we need all of our listeners

571
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:16,079
to go vote for the Challenge.
Competitors. Did you see Zach in your

572
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:24,800
social media research the updates about Nelliet, I haven't seen anything directly about him.

573
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,800
I've seen a couple of the alumni
still gain mad that people are calling

574
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:37,639
him out for like raising money.
Oh, I didn't see people they're mad

575
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:42,000
at him for trying to raise money. Um, there is some so I

576
00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:46,840
started mostly because Devin retweeted like Nellie's
fundraiser and then people checking Matt Devin and

577
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,599
being like, hey, you just
won half a million dollars. How about

578
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,840
instead of taking our money, like
you use your money to help your friend.

579
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:59,079
And then it's kind of like trickled
down and people were hating on um

580
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,880
Nellie as well, being kind of
like, oh, privilege, you're on

581
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,800
TV and like you're asking for our
money. Well, that's really kind of

582
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,239
a short sighted and rude approach to
this situation. They don't know what his

583
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,000
financial situation's like, and no kidding, And I don't think that these people

584
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:19,559
make a ton. I mean Nellie's
appearance fee, I don't know, what

585
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,800
do you guys think thirty forty grand? Maybe maybe I don't know, maybe

586
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,159
it's to a year or something.
So, I mean it's like he makes

587
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:30,920
a decent living, but not I
would be very surprised if he's a millionaire,

588
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,280
you know. Yeah, and people
like him to do this, you

589
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,880
know, pretty much around the clock
every year. It's not like they have

590
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:44,400
health insurance or anything. So yeah, and his injuries are very bad.

591
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,760
It was not just a car crash
that he walked away from. He's had

592
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,360
like multiple surgeries, He's post pictures
on his Instagram. It looks gnarly.

593
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:58,960
I saw a picture of his foot
and it was pretty crazy. Yeah,

594
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,639
really unfortunate. I feel bad for
Nellie. I don't know. And if

595
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:07,400
you look at that go fund me. A lot of the challengers have donated

596
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,679
money. I don't know if Devin
has, but you can see a lot

597
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:14,840
of Challengers names in that, so
they are helping him. Yeah, fuck

598
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:19,039
you, people, calm down.
It is weird. People think if you're

599
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:22,639
on TV, you're a millionaire no
matter what. Like, yeah, automatically

600
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,400
millionaire if you're on TV. That's
not really how it works. No,

601
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,280
I bet, I bet Nellie lives
a pretty modest lifestyle. Actually, me

602
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,400
and Tim have met people have directed
movies that you could go watch right now,

603
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719
could go to the store and buy
them, and they are they are

604
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,360
broke as a joke. They have
like regular day jobs. Yeah, and

605
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,360
they like yeah, they like live
with roommates and shit like that, because

606
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,039
this is their dream, you know, to make these movies and stuff.

607
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:59,000
It's not for the money. Yeah, so interesting. Yeah, poor Nellie.

608
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,559
Some prayers Nelly. Oh yeah,
I do feel bad for him.

609
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:07,000
As much as I'm not a Nellie
fan, I don't I don't wish that

610
00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:10,480
type of injury on anybody is gonna
put his foot looks fucked up? Is

611
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this what's gonna turn you around?
On? Nellie? You just had to

612
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:15,719
get you just had to almost die
in a car crash where you're like,

613
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,159
Okay, I'd miss him. I'd
miss him if he died, I wouldn't

614
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:24,360
say turn around. Uh if he
comes back and you know how they did

615
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,679
with TJ when they weren't sure if
he was going to come back to host

616
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:31,079
after he got hurt, and Nelly
walks in and everybody's cheering, I'll give

617
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:34,599
him some claps. I'd be like, oh, good, Nellie. Then

618
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,199
will you walk and join the crowd? I'd be like, nell you're such

619
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:39,159
a fucking idiot. Will you wipe
a tear from your eye? No,

620
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,599
because I would not know. You
won't get choked up by that about even

621
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:49,239
a little bit. Yeah, heartless, heartless bitch, Cindy, are you

622
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,280
listening? Heartless? Look at this
guy? Heartless? No complaion. It's

623
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,719
funny because I was telling her about
all the movies I cried at the end

624
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,719
of multiple times today, So oh, give us one. What's one of

625
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,639
the movie as you cry? It
All Dogs Go to Heaven. Okay,

626
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000
No, I mean, I know
I've no of the movie. I don't

627
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,480
think i've ever seen it. It's
kind a very sad ending, Zach.

628
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:14,320
Any any movies make you cry,
Zach, I'm very emotional, so everything

629
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,599
makes me cry. Um trying to
think of one in particular. I got

630
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:22,280
tear out at the end of Clerks
three. I know you were a big

631
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:29,360
fan of that movie so much,
Yeah, Sidy says, pretty sure.

632
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,320
He cries way more than I do. It seems like that's probably a fact.

633
00:46:32,599 --> 00:46:36,400
I cry it. Big Fish.
That's one of my crime movies if

634
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,079
I want a good cry, big
Fish. And this is gonna make me

635
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:43,639
sound really weird now because of the
Kevin Spacey stuff. But American Beauty,

636
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,199
it's actually like, if you can
overlook the Kevin Spacey being a rapist,

637
00:46:47,800 --> 00:47:00,199
it's actually a wonderful movie. Shaker
says La Bamba makes uh. Who was

638
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,320
that Lou Diamond Phillips. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy sucks.

639
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,360
What the Diamond Phillips is a national
treasure? You shut your horse series

640
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:15,079
love Lu Diamond Phillips, terrible guns, the big hit. He was getting

641
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:21,599
the big hit, Big Hit.
Wow, thirty two. Yeah. Gross,

642
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:27,079
that movie sucked so hard. I
wouldn't go that far. I had

643
00:47:27,079 --> 00:47:34,559
a bunch of thematic issues with it, but sure a good times All Right,

644
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,320
this isn't the after show? Where
are we talking about this? Hey?

645
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,039
Everybody head Challenge about dot com.
Joined the Facebook group, join our

646
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:43,320
patreon, you listen to the after
show. You just got a little preview

647
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,000
because it is usually the bullshit we
talked about the after show, right,

648
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:50,880
um yeah, so head over there
and check it out. Um, I

649
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,840
guess for this episode of Challenge,
this has been Brian, Big Uncle,

650
00:47:53,840 --> 00:48:00,559
Sweet Team, Zachie Bananas, and
is uh I forgot to get a quote?

651
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:10,400
As uh TJ said, don't get
another stalemate, che Chie
