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Do I? This one's called Brave New World. It's episode six of this
season. Rumor tells me that there's twelve episodes this season, so if that's
true, we're halfway through, and it seems like not enough players have been
eliminated before being halfway through the season, but here we are. We need
a purge, yeah, or just like a finale that starts with six teams
or something crazy like that. That's kind of fun. We'll see. So,
as you recall, last week ended on a cliffhanger, this one picks
right back up or the cliffhanger left off. That is, we're back in
the arena Kiki and Durrell. They're up on the you know, up in
the whatever bleachers whatever whatever we're gonna call that thing, and they have to
decide who they're gonna throw in against Wes and Zara, and uh, Durrell
just sort of doesn't know who to throw in. He's kind of stumbling looking
for what to say, and eventually they just decide to throw in Ben and
Casey. Um when he says this, I don't know just because they you
know, this show now shows things out of order and stuff and it's really
weird. Yeah, And so it doesn't seem super clear as to why they
picked Ben and Casey at this moment. But uh, Wolfie, why do
you think they picked Ben and Casey at this moment? Or just in general,
why did they now now that I know why they picked them? Either
one cleared up for us just clear. MTV shows us that at some point
Ben was trying to break up the Aussee alliance, but maybe get into someone's
head and to Bill, you're at the bottom, bro, what you're following
them for? So drilled in like that. So Durrell is like, oh,
yeah, Ben can fuck off. He's like Casey, Casey's just getting
caught in the middle. But yeah, I think generally nobody trusts Ben anymore.
Even his allies are sort of like, well, wait a minute,
this guy lies and is flying off the hand of one doing weird shit.
Yes, for sure. All right, So but Ben thinks as he's walking
down, he thinks that Sarah and Danny are actually behind this move. He
thinks Sarah and Danny has something to do with why he's being thrown in there.
The rest of the episode proves that that's not right. But why Zach,
Why does he think that that Sarah and Danny are behind this? I
think just because you know, he kind of went against our alliance and fired
the first shot that anything against him, he's going to assume retribution. Yeah,
um, yeah, I think that's probably right. So all right,
So the channel or the elimination is between Wes and Zara and Ben and Casey.
This one is called Herculeans strength. I mean this is kind of good
though, two sort of bigger teams. Yeah, well man against each other.
Yeah, I think that was a really good, good move, throwing
in Ben and Casey. I don't think they're making any enemies by throwing in
Ben and Casey because so many people want them out anyway. Yeah. That
really the only enemy they're making is Ben and Casey themselves, which they didn't
trust anyway. Yeah. So this is an elimination where one teammate has to
hold up these weights, the other teammate has to solve math equations, and
for every math equation that you get right, you can put a weight on
the other team's player. Whoever ends up drop of these weights first loses,
obviously, obviously. So this is where Zara's dyslexia comes back into place.
She mentioned her dyslexia a couple episodes ago, and now she says it again,
and then that her dyslexi even extends to like math problems and math equations.
She's very unsure about doing math, So Wes will do the math.
Zara will hold the weights, which I thought was a very interesting choice because
you would think the men would be holding the weights, and so I sort
of thought, as Zara is getting strapped up, I was like, all
right, Ben versus Zara, Like, Zara is definitely gonna lose, like
no offense to Tsara. She seems strong, but Ben is stronger. Yeah,
but Ben also decided to do the math problems. So Casey and Zara
are holding the weights, Ben and Wes are doing the math. Still feel
like that's that's not evenly matched. No, it's no, because Casey is
also very strong. Yeah. I was like, Casey's pretty strong. I
think she could beat her. But then at my head, I'm just like,
but I know Wes is pretty smart, so he may zip through these
math problems real quick. Yeah, so maybe it will be more competitive than
I thought. Yeah, it turns out it wasn't. It was not very
competitive. I thought since I saw that Zara was holding the weight, like
as I got they lost already. Is that because you thought Ben would be
holding the weights or just the Tsar is not as strong as Casey either.
I thought, you know that Zara was the physically weakest of all four people
in that elimination, so no matter who you know, Ben or Casey then
went up there. I felt like they'd Bill hold way more than her.
Yeah. I think I wonder if the hope was that Ben couldn't do this
math and Wes could just do the math so much faster that maybe they could
load up Casey with a bunch of weight. I don't I don't know.
I don't know what the strategy here was, but it seemed weird. We
learned that Ben is not holding the weight because of his shoulder injury. I
think that's the same one that we saw him get in Challenge USA. I
believe so. So right out of the gate, Ben is struggling with the
math, Wes is not struggling with the math. West comes out with a
pretty good lead, starts stacking weights on Casey's thing. But Ben does catch
up pretty quickly, and this thing's over about as soon as it starts.
Zara drops the Tzar's out it. Ben did one of those like Hrder Hurder
math problems, which adds more weight, so he was able to catch up
to the last real quick. Yep, all right, well that's the elimination.
Yeah, Les goes home. I'm sure Zach was happy. Yeah,
how do you feel about that? Zach? I was very happy? Um?
No, actually, I think at that time, I was wanting Ben
and Casey go home just because I thought it would better protect the other people
I liked. So I don't know. I think Ben just needs to get
punished for his move. Yeah. What did you guys think of Wes's like
going away speech to the MVPs as he was leaving the arena? So to
him, is he trying to build relay chips for the next time that they're
all on? He'd be like, Hey, remember when I congratulated you.
I'm pretty cool guy, right, you should listen to me. We should
hang out. Yeah. Probably is that what it was? Some sort of
a strategy move. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, I don't get it.
I cannot see any other reason for him doing it, Yeah, other
than trying to just build a friendship with him leaving. Yeah, I don't
know. Wests does have these moments where he's really just self important and even
like condescending, and this seemed like one of those, you know, where
he's like, you know, I don't know. They had this like sort
of air about him of like, you guys, you know, your MVPs
were the vets. We made this show what it is. But welcome to
the family. Like I don't know, it just seemed a little one of
those like humble brag type of situations. I showed it. I don't either
West. I like West, but I like him about every other season.
I like him best when I don't see him for a for a few seasons.
H all right, And so Zara's last words that we see her say
as next time, we'll drink the fucking drink. Does it all come down
to this? Guys? Is it? Are they in there just because they
didn't drink the drink? Are they going home just because of that? No?
I don't remember how the scores fell out last episode, but it definitely
didn't help their situation any well. I think there was somebody else that got
in the negatives just like they did, but not as deep into the negatives.
And I can remember who it was, but um Amber and whoever.
No, they overcame their deficit somehow. I can't remember who it does,
It doesn't matter, doesn't matter, nope. Um all right. So next
scene we get we have Sarah, Danny, Grant, and Emily. They're
all sitting around and all of them are talking about how Ben is gonna spin
out now and start causing all this chaos um, which I don't know.
Do you guys think is that true? It could be true. YEP,
I think it's true. Meanwhile, Durrell is just sort of sitting around wondering
what he's gonna say to Ben and Casey when they approach him, because you
know that's always what happens. They come in like why why us? Why
did you throw us in? Durrell has to come up with a good excuse
for it. Well he doesn't. He's not able to come up with a
good excuse at all. Yeah, I think the truth. I mean,
unless Ben and Casey are dumb, they have to know, like, hey,
we just tried to turn against Australia. He's paired with an Australian.
Yeah, it seems like it could have been handled really logically, but it
wasn't. Durrell just you know, as we see them confront Durell and Kiki,
Durrell just says, I just didn't know what name to say, so
I just said your name, which is like the worst possible explanation, especially
if if you know that you have to come up with a reason, and
then that's the you can come up with. Comandrell you've played this game enough,
come up with a better one. Carlin says, Darrell looked like a
big dummy. He really did. This is the first time for a while
that I've sort of been like, Darell, what's up? I don't know.
He usually manages the stuff better than this time. All right, So
next we get Troy and Amber. They're talking to Tor. Troy is starting
to see that the Asses aren't really looking out for him Emily and Grant,
They're not really including him in conversations, they're not really helping him. He
sees that he's at the bottom of this alliance and I don't know. We
saw Ben tell him that, but I'm not sure if Ben needed to tell
him. It seems obvious to everybody. And Ambers says that Australia is falling
apart and she'll throw in the Aussies if she needs to. That's what we
call foreshadowing. Guys. Yep, all right, one to the challenge.
Were you guys distracted about how weird this entrance was into the challenge? Did
you even notice? I didn't notice? Oh yeah, were you too busy
texting again? Wolfe to to actually be watching the show that we're talking about
on a podcast. Yeah, I was. Actually I actually watched it at
work today after we've had lunch. Oh nice, So maybe that's why I
missed it. Could be it was just really weird, like we had we
have slow motion walking all the time, but this was like super slow and
over a really long period of time and they had these weird slow cross fades
and this like super strong epic music. I don't know, it was really
distracting. Chat room, am I do you agree with me? This was
weirder than usual. I'm gonna go with yes. Uh. This challenge,
guys is called a rocket man's kind of a dumb challenge. Yeah, why
I tell me about it? Wolfie? What are you doing this challenge?
Uh? Well, you have to jump off ledge onto one of those giant
inflatable air bags and send your partner like flying and they have to fly over
like these uh tiered uh I don't know what the fuck do you call them
bars? Bars whatever? And if you uh do that, you get time
taken off of your total time and then both have to swim out, grab
puzzle pieces, swim back, put these put the most complicated puzzles challenge together
and then time will stop. Yeah, Why was this even a puzzle?
Why didn't they just ring a bell at the end where they usually have to
do this stuff? The puzzle thing was nonsense, a two piece puzzle.
Give me a break. Have them go out, go around a buoy and
then come back and then come and ring the bell. That's that's all you
have to do. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, calling that a puzzle
is super weird. Zach, What did you think any any opinion about this
thing? I mean, I thought the puzzle is dumb as well, But
I loved the blob because we used to do that summer camps. I was
like, oh, I've done this, and we actually had like hoops and
bars up in the air that we could try to go through as well.
Were you up that high in the air? I mean it felt like it,
But I was also like, you know ten, so if I seemed
a lot higher than it really was. Yeah, I've never done one of
these, bof we have you done one of these? Oh? No,
idea, I'm so fucking fat though, I would send somebody flying into the
atmosphere. Probably so Sidey said, it felt like there was something epic that
was going to happen. When they walked I'm assuming she means that montage you
were talking about. Yeah, and Chris says I was waiting for them to
do something with this setup. Yeah, Syndey does have a point. It's
harder to one with those big pieces, That's true. I don't know.
Maybe that maybe that slowed them down a little bit. I don't know,
But just like Challenge has been doing lately, they don't really tell us exactly
what the rules are, like how much time is deducted for which bar that
you pass pass over? As well as like if you knock over the bar,
does that mean you cleared it? Because most people knocked over that top
bar as they cleared it, but we don't know if that counted. I
don't know. I wish they just would be more transparent with this. I
was wondering about knocking the bar down too. But they actually did show us
at the beginning how many seconds each bar was worth. Oh did I didn't
see that? What were the second what were the what were they worth?
If you get over the top one, it was sixty seconds off, middle
was thirty seconds off, bottom was fifteen seconds off. Okay, interesting,
Okay, well I totally missed that. Well, then that does help point
out how some of these times are people who didn't get the higher bar.
Some of their times don't aren't very good. Yeah, Well, as this
challenge is starting, Jordan has a confessional where he talks about seeing cracks in
this US Australia a lion. The scene has seemed kind of impenetrable, so
UK was kind of freaking out. But Jordan now is part of the UK
team season opening for them. If they can sort of nurture that chaos and
make them fight amongst themselves, maybe he can make a little progress there.
Yeah. So I don't have a ton of notes about what happens in this
competition. There's only two runs we really need to talk about. Yeah,
what's the first one? First one, obviously is Grant trying to jump off
this thing, completely fucking it up, Like literally all you had to do
was like fall forward and most of the work would have been done for you.
Yeah, of course, Grant like for some reason jumps into the air
and then falls immediately to the left, completely misses like the bag pretty much
altogether. It hits like the side of it. And then John A like
jumps like two feet in the air that just goes right into the water.
They don't hit any of these bars. Yeah, super weird. How did
Grant fuck this up so well? Lab it's where because I know it's when
he's up on the platform. If you look, he's actually already like standing
sideways towards where he jumped instead of like facing it straight on. Yeah,
it seemed like he had some strategy in mind because he hit the bag at
a weird angle that seemed like he had to purposefully do it that way.
It seemed like he was trying to do something and it just did not work
the way he expected or something. I don't know. There's like two little
like airbags connected to it, and he got all tangled up, and then
he swam and he was talking about how his knee was all jacked up but
he kept going, which kudos. Yeah, he says he fucking booted his
knee. I like the I do like the asse slang. I gotta be
honest with you on that one. Yeah, And then uh, Emily's run
with Yes. Yeah, she's an Olympic swimmer. Yeah, and oh my
god, it was amazing to watch her though. She was incredible in the
water. Yeah. Absolutely, it looked like everybody else was just standing still
and she's just like flying through the water. Yeah, she went and she
was a puzzle piece up there, and then she went back and got yeses
and was kind of dragged yes along crazy. Yes, her performance was unbelievable.
Yeah, some of some of my other notes. Justine's launch was also
unbelievable. She was I think the only one that I made note of that
cleared that top bar and didn't touch it, didn't knock it down. And
then I guess before the challenge she told Bananas that she couldn't swim, but
she looked like she could swim. To me, she was rocking that challenge
pretty good. She was killing it. Yep. Cindy says, as a
former swim teacher, she was great to watch. Yeah, clearly knows what
she's doing in the water. Yes. Carlo says, I would have loved
to see what West, well, what West would say about her swimming and
if he would try to compare herself itself to her. I would love to
see that too, Yeah, christ Yeah, I have a note that Jody
was pulling Benha out of the water. I always like it when the women
can sort of outperform the men and show him up. A little bit,
and Jody did not surprised. Jodey's a rock star with this stuff. Uh
yeah, So obviously Grant and john A they were last place. Grant was
escort at home in an ambulance, so we don't even see him anymore.
But john A's last straight to elimination with her and TJ always says this one
second separated first and second place? Do we believe this bullshit? Guys?
Is it really one second? Probably not. It feels like it's always one
second. Maybe I'm dumb. I believe TJ. He wouldn't like to us.
I fully think you lies. He always does the stuff. He's like
it all. It came down to two tenths of a second, Like is
it always that close? I don't know. I don't I don't buy that
stuff. Uh well, first and second place are Kelly and and Tris and
Kaz and Jordan. Those are the top two performers and ultimately it's Tristan and
Kelly in that win this one. Are we surprised? Guys? What do
you guys think about this one? I'm a little surprised because that means yes,
ate it so much in this challenge, like fucking Emily. Like,
like we said, swam got her piece, went back out, swam and
met yes and grabbed his piece, went in but it together that had to
swim back out to grab him. So obviously he fucked their team up completely.
And also I can't remember it didn't They also not make it over the
top rung on the launch. I don't think it showed yes as launch that
I yes, yes, only went through the second one, right, Okay,
yeah he missed the first one. So yeah, if they made them
say how they had to like make up thirty seconds now, Oh okay,
that makes sense. All right, Well that's the end of this challenge.
As they walk out of here, TJ says, no stalemates. Yeah,
menacingly, as if that's a threat at all. We know what happens with
the standmate. Think it's not a big deal. Yeah, shut up,
TJ. Yeah. So as they're leaving, ben Ha thinks that he and
Jody are going to be the easy targets. Um, they're the only Argentinians
left. Everyone has already said their name that it's gonna be easy to keep
saying their name, So they've just sort of got to deal with what to
do here. Yeah, next up, we have Tory talking to Danny and
Sarah. Uh, Tori is I don't know. Tory is not good at
running these conversations. Not she's not clear, she's not like super clear about
what she's trying to say, and not forceful enough. And I don't know.
There's just every time she's on the screen, because she's gonna try to
lead this, she needs to just be a hard ass about shit. Yeah,
just straight up say shit, rather than trying to beat around the bush.
And well, I mean, you know, we shouldn't. It's like,
just say it, just say hey, don't vote your I like George,
I don't want him to go in. Yeah, all you got to
say. And she tries here. She says that they're only options. They
can only throw on Australians or Jody and Ben hot and that's all they that's
all they can do. And I think Danny and Sarah just like, well,
why we don't have to do that at all. He can do whatever
we want. So this is where they have the awkward conversation. It's uh,
Bananas comes in in the middle of it. It seems clear that like
Banana's Tory, these other vets are trying to get Sarah and Danny to just
go along with what they say, and Sarah and Danny are basically just like,
no, we're not gonna Um, Zach, I'm interested in your perspective
on these chats because Bananas, to me, comes off looking like a major
prick. What how did you interpret these conversations? Um? I didn't think
he has a park here, you know. I thought, you know,
like, I don't know if he's dessarily given them the best advice, but
I felt like he was trying to give it in a way that wasn't condescending,
and Sarah just kind of like flew off the handle. I felt like
he was absolutely being condescending. We'll figure the tiebreaker was Banana's condescending or not.
Look, I don't know how to feel about this conversation because I fucking
hate both of them. So I was just sitting back and enjoying those two
going at each other. I'm like, yeah, fuck both of you.
But you can't you hate both and still be able to say, like,
well, Bananas is worse. I don't know if he was worse. Um,
he did have a point. He's like, I feel like if I
was going to be on survivor. I would sit back and listen to them.
That's not true whatsoever. He would just do whatever the fuck he wanted.
Yeah, but the point was was obvious. But yeah, they had
zero interests. So was Johnny Banana's being a prick? I mean yes,
because he was breathing. M Is it specific to the situation though, Yeah,
I guess I do feel like it was specific because he kept saying like,
I just wish you would listen to me. I just wish you would
listen to me. And I just think like, well, they were listening
with to you. They just disagreed. They just don't think that you're right,
which is different, Like it's not they're not ignoring him, they're listening
and then saying like, well, you don't have my interest at heart.
And that was clear when Sarah said like that, you know, just show
me the big picture, tell me what the big picture looks like, and
i'll, you know, I'll see if I want to work with you,
and Bananas was like, oh no, no, no, we don't do
big picture stuff. We only focus on right now and right now you need
to do this. I don't know, it just seemed very condescending. The
thing I did like is that he would do that thing where he starts rubbing
his eyes, like, and Sarah would totally call him out. Yeah,
go ahead, start doing that, She's crazy thing. If he would do
something else, she would just call him out on that too, And to
the point where he just got up and walked away. And I'm like,
damn it, don't do stuff. I like Sarah because you're fucking annoying.
And it's okay to change your opinion. Wolfee. If Sarah makes you're happy
in this moment, you can you can start liking Sarah. No no,
no, no no, I already hated their five seconds later. Well,
I'm not the biggest Sarah fan either, but she's right here. I really
I am fully on team Sarah in this seems Sarah and Danny in this conversation.
I think Sarah handled it exactly perfectly. When you're dealing with somebody like
bananas, um, and yeah, fuck bananas, Zach. I'm glad you
agree with me and all that. I'm sure you would love to fuck bananas.
You'd be so lucky. But you know, this conversation between these guys,
uh, it probably got their nerves kind of frazzled. Don't you think,
Wolfee, I'm sure. What do you think they could do if they
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Yeah, see if their eyes kind of go back into their soul a little
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we're in due deliberation. I guess it's or nomination for that's it. What
do we call him? This process here, let's good deliver the deliberation.
We'll do that. Carlos. Kellyan falls in that category. She probably needs
some stressing in her life. Yes, she Kelly and sometimes has the crazy
eyes too. When you can see the whites with the white all the way
around, that's when it gets a little like whoa, like you got to
chill out, dude, crazy of course. Kell Yeah, friend of the
show, Kellyan love Kellyan. Yes, all right. So as part of
this deliberation, Amber starts it um and man, she is pulling no punches
here. She's basically just like fuck you, yes, and Emily, I'm
voting for you, um, fuck you Sarah and thea I'm voting for you
too. Uh. And so then we have a flashback Wolfe you love these
flashbacks. This just show it on the show. I know, it's super
weird. I don't know why they do these flashbacks. It's really unusual.
But we see that Ben approached Amber and told Amber that Tory's crew was gunning
for her, and he did this in an effort to sort of pull Amber
over into their side and get that get her and Troy to vote along with
Casey and Ben. Seems like it worked, right, guys, seems like
it? Yeah at all, because we never saw that conversation take place.
And do you think they actually were trying to target Amber? Do you think
they just made that up to turn to turn Amber against them? Yeah,
that's the big question, isn't it. I'm not sure. I don't I
don't have any theories. Do you have a theory. I don't have a
theory because I'm mad at MTV for doing this flashback bullshit? Fuck them?
What's your theory, Zachy? I think they made it up because Emily did
seem pretty surprised about her targeting her and you know, so I feel like
Emily didn't see this coming. Yeah, I'm not sure if I if if
Amber and and uh Troy were targets, but it seems clear that they're at
the bottom of the Aussee alliance, um and that maybe they could move up
in their in their ranks if they kind of realign with somebody else. Um.
So I don't know. Well, we'll see how this strategy ends up.
But yeah, Emily's pissed. I don't know. Um. The other
part I thought was interesting Danny and Tory, Uh, it's their turn to
vote, and they basically just say like, oh, we're not voting yet.
We want to see what everybody else is going to do and then we'll
vote at the end. Uh. And THEO is not dropping this, He's
just like fucking say the name, like it's your turn, Like you go
go go? Who's right? Wollfee, who's right? I would say Theo's
right, Okay, why don't because don't pull that Oh we're not going to
vote, We're gonna wait to see whatever Bale says. Bullshit, Just you
got your plan. Vote fucking vote. It's your turn. Yeah, vote,
And I would tell everybody like, no, nobody else go until they
vote. So you're all night if we have to. What about you,
Zachau? Is that what's the who's right in this? In this debate?
I think Danny's right, you know, as as far as we know,
there's no rules saying you have to go in a certain order like around the
table. So you know, we saw last week that they are a team
divided, so I think you know, they don't have a unified decision going
in to let them kind of figure out what's happening and go from there.
Yeah, I agree. I'm also on team Danny, so sorry, we'll
fore you are outnumbered. It's okay, Sucker has got my back in the
chat room. All right, chat room, you've gotta vote it. You've
gotta vote to chat room. Who's right? Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna
sitte with Danny. I think number one. I just like Danny. I
just think that he and I would just be best friends forever. I just
like everything about him. But he's also one like this dude is playing to
win. He doesn't care if people like him. He is just gonna do
the best he can. There are no rules that say you have to vote.
You can just say pass, and Danny is becoming an expert at figuring
out like, well, I can follow the rules while also pissing people off
and doing things that they might not want me to do. Because I guess
I don't know if you guys saw this, but last week for the stale,
the stalemate thing, I guess, producers intervened and we're like, you
guys cannot have a stalemate. You have to vote for somebody, and Danny
was just kept being like no, I'm not like, I'm not gonna So
Danny would not change his vote, and producers were getting upset with him and
everything, but he just stuck to his guns and wouldn't do it. Did
you read that, Zach too? I heard about that. Yeah, I
love Danny. I hope he doesn't push production enough though, where they're like
too much of a problem child to bring back. Yeah, I'm not sure
either. There's got to be a line somewhere where production is not going to
tolerate his ship. But he did this on Survivor too. Remember, he
was really outspoken about that hourglass twist. He said it to Jeff Prope's right
to his face that he hated that. Every like interview that he gave he
said he hated that rule on Survivor. So this is a guy he's you
know, he's playing to win and he will follow rules, but he will
not just sort of bend to anybody's will. Former NFL player Yeah, hit
him with that. US Checker says, THEO. Joker says, Team Danny,
Chris says THEO. Cindy says, I see, I see, I
see why they want to wait. Strategically, However, what happens if everybody
keeps passing because of the same thing, voting should be in an order.
Yeah, I kind of I kind of agree with that, but then we
shouldn't that has to be part of the rules, like there has to be
a blind vote or as to be like there has to be some way to
do this. But there's nothing. There's nothing against the rules that just say
pass. So Danny's just saying pass. I'm just not gonna just not gonna
do it. Um, And I don't think he does. I don't have
the nomination order here. I'm certainly not thoroughly and not correctly, but I
don't think he does vote he does, I can't. They threw a burn
vote on someone, So they they did. They threw a burn vote on
Jordan. Yeah, you're right, yes, which time surprised Tory let that
happen. Yeah, she kind of okayed it with Jordan there at the table,
and Jordan's just like fucking say it, just go, let's go,
let's go. Yeah, yes, you're right. So I have the They
voted for Jody and Ben Hah and Jordan and Kaz, so all right,
so everybody else votes uh blah blah blah blah, blah, doesn't really matter.
The nominees end up being Jody and ben Ha and Yes and Emily.
No surprise is here, right, guys, not at all. Yeah,
as the other two teams are sitting in that what do they call that Hall
of Legends or I don't know whatever bullshit, and uh, john A is
just sort of wondering, like, will Grant even be back? How is
this gonna work? What's gonna happen? Um, it's never a good thing
when your teammate is hallaway in an ambulance. So she's kind of stressing.
So that's it. We'd the elimination. Yes, Uh, TJ calls out
Grant and john A. John A comes running out, Grant comes hobbling out
on these crutches. Uh, this knee all bandaged up. Bananas is yelling
at him from up there, being rude and inconsiderate. Yeah, super weird.
Okay, Banna's long story short, believe it or not, Guys,
the guy can't continue in the show with a but what word did he use
for his une his booted knee? So that's it. Guess he's done zo.
He's going home. Johnny is going with him, and there will be
no elimination. John A's winning streak comes to an end. Yeah, kind
of kind of a bummer, but she has a good attitude about it.
Yeah she does. I tend to feel like we would all be that way
and be like, look, your knees sucked up. Yeah, big videos
don't like you quit everything. He gets props for still going after he fucked
his no kidding. TJ gave him great praise for that too. Are we
going to see him back? Probably not. I don't know. Maybe maybe
TJ's worried you took that fucking weird ass jump off that uh platform for some
stupid reason. I don't know if they will bring back like players from the
international version, but if they do, I think he's a lock to come
back. Why do you think that, I think because he's a good competitor,
you know, like I think TJ is gon't respect the fact he still
did the swim after getting injured. So I think he's just someone that would
you know, be a strong male that because TJ is the one who picks
all the cast members. Sure right, I heard so. I've I've really
liked Grant. I think he's like funny and personal. I've really enjoyed watching
him, but I read on the MTV Challenge subread the guy's a major prick
and apparently had a very serious girlfriend during the time he was shooting his season
of Love Island and pursued all these like fake relationships knowing yet a girlfriend at
home. I really just did it for the TV time. I don't know,
Zach, do you know anything about this if you read up on any
of this. I don't. But doesn't surprise me because I feel like,
on like Love Island in The Bachelor, you have a couple of people season
that go on just for the TV fame while they Yeah, I'm not surprised
that he but I mean that any of these people would do something like that.
But Carlin says he was a major sick in the Australia season and corrects
herself to say he was a major dick. Yeah that's right, Carlin.
I'm gonna point out your spelling. Airs. Uh. Well, that's it.
So they are leaving, Yes and Emily. They say they are now
stranded. They have no alliance anymore. The Australians have sort of disbanded and
they are now sort of stuck without any without any alliances and Kelly and does
not feel great about john A leaving the game in this way. She thinks
Johnny should have been able to fight to stay there, which I thought was
very like fair thing of Kelly And to say, yeah, it was nice.
And I guess I'm upset for Kelly Anne and Tristan that there when basically
means nothing. They had no power to control anything in this elimination. That's
they just they won for nothing. It's really that big of a power though.
You get to pick between two teams that are determined by the rest of
the house. That's not really much power in this version of the game.
I mean, it's at least something. And especially because of the conflict that
she and John Ay had, I would have liked to see some discussion between
her and john A about Johnny, who do you want? Why should I
give you what you want after you what you did to me? You know,
like, I don't know. I would have liked to see some impact
of this. Yeah, yeah, And I feel like even though Kelly An's
not happy with how Johnny went home, she got the outcome she probably wanted
to. I'm sure she doesn't mind not having the power. Yeah, but
don't you think she wanted to play a role in that, like assigning the
person to beat John A being able to celebrate when she lost. I don't
know. It just feels like Kelly on was robbed even though John Ay went
home Kelly and had didn't influence this. They didn't lose, they got injured.
It just seems sort of like a like, not really a victory for
Kelly in here. I can see that, sure, all right, glad.
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we do about two hours ago. Um, now that he is giving well,
his wife is giving birth to this Bona state and ak anyway, Yeah,
challenge dad. I love the Challenge dads, So congratulations to West and
his wife. Yeah. And then also, uh, the Challenge has been
nominated for two MTV Awards today, first for Best Competition Reality Show, and
then Tory and Devin got nominated for Best Reality Duo. Oh nice interesting?
Yeah, so how embarrassing? How embarrassing is it going to be when shows
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to go vote for the Challenge. Competitors. Did you see Zach in your
social media research the updates about Nelliet, I haven't seen anything directly about him.
I've seen a couple of the alumni still gain mad that people are calling
him out for like raising money. Oh, I didn't see people they're mad
at him for trying to raise money. Um, there is some so I
started mostly because Devin retweeted like Nellie's fundraiser and then people checking Matt Devin and
being like, hey, you just won half a million dollars. How about
instead of taking our money, like you use your money to help your friend.
And then it's kind of like trickled down and people were hating on um
Nellie as well, being kind of like, oh, privilege, you're on
TV and like you're asking for our money. Well, that's really kind of
a short sighted and rude approach to this situation. They don't know what his
financial situation's like, and no kidding, And I don't think that these people
make a ton. I mean Nellie's appearance fee, I don't know, what
do you guys think thirty forty grand? Maybe maybe I don't know, maybe
it's to a year or something. So, I mean it's like he makes
a decent living, but not I would be very surprised if he's a millionaire,
you know. Yeah, and people like him to do this, you
know, pretty much around the clock every year. It's not like they have
health insurance or anything. So yeah, and his injuries are very bad.
It was not just a car crash that he walked away from. He's had
like multiple surgeries, He's post pictures on his Instagram. It looks gnarly.
I saw a picture of his foot and it was pretty crazy. Yeah,
really unfortunate. I feel bad for Nellie. I don't know. And if
you look at that go fund me. A lot of the challengers have donated
money. I don't know if Devin has, but you can see a lot
of Challengers names in that, so they are helping him. Yeah, fuck
you, people, calm down. It is weird. People think if you're
on TV, you're a millionaire no matter what. Like, yeah, automatically
millionaire if you're on TV. That's not really how it works. No,
I bet, I bet Nellie lives a pretty modest lifestyle. Actually, me
and Tim have met people have directed movies that you could go watch right now,
could go to the store and buy them, and they are they are
broke as a joke. They have like regular day jobs. Yeah, and
they like yeah, they like live with roommates and shit like that, because
this is their dream, you know, to make these movies and stuff.
It's not for the money. Yeah, so interesting. Yeah, poor Nellie.
Some prayers Nelly. Oh yeah, I do feel bad for him.
As much as I'm not a Nellie fan, I don't I don't wish that
type of injury on anybody is gonna put his foot looks fucked up? Is
this what's gonna turn you around? On? Nellie? You just had to
get you just had to almost die in a car crash where you're like,
Okay, I'd miss him. I'd miss him if he died, I wouldn't
say turn around. Uh if he comes back and you know how they did
with TJ when they weren't sure if he was going to come back to host
after he got hurt, and Nelly walks in and everybody's cheering, I'll give
him some claps. I'd be like, oh, good, Nellie. Then
will you walk and join the crowd? I'd be like, nell you're such
a fucking idiot. Will you wipe a tear from your eye? No,
because I would not know. You won't get choked up by that about even
a little bit. Yeah, heartless, heartless bitch, Cindy, are you
listening? Heartless? Look at this guy? Heartless? No complaion. It's
funny because I was telling her about all the movies I cried at the end
of multiple times today, So oh, give us one. What's one of
the movie as you cry? It All Dogs Go to Heaven. Okay,
No, I mean, I know I've no of the movie. I don't
think i've ever seen it. It's kind a very sad ending, Zach.
Any any movies make you cry, Zach, I'm very emotional, so everything
makes me cry. Um trying to think of one in particular. I got
tear out at the end of Clerks three. I know you were a big
fan of that movie so much, Yeah, Sidy says, pretty sure.
He cries way more than I do. It seems like that's probably a fact.
I cry it. Big Fish. That's one of my crime movies if
I want a good cry, big Fish. And this is gonna make me
sound really weird now because of the Kevin Spacey stuff. But American Beauty,
it's actually like, if you can overlook the Kevin Spacey being a rapist,
it's actually a wonderful movie. Shaker says La Bamba makes uh. Who was
that Lou Diamond Phillips. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy sucks.
What the Diamond Phillips is a national treasure? You shut your horse series
love Lu Diamond Phillips, terrible guns, the big hit. He was getting
the big hit, Big Hit. Wow, thirty two. Yeah. Gross,
that movie sucked so hard. I wouldn't go that far. I had
a bunch of thematic issues with it, but sure a good times All Right,
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