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Using free speech to free minds.
You're listening to the David Night Show.

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As the clock strikes thirteen, it's
Wednesday, the twenty ninth of November.

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Have of Our Lord, twenty twenty
three. Well, we're about three hours

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late because we had power outage that
just came back. It was off for

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over six hours and still not so
and what the cause was. But we

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still have about twelve thousand people in
the area that are out of power.

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But we've got a lot to talk
about. So I want to get on

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anyway, and we'll see what happens
with this new time slot. And I

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think we're going to necessarily continue with
this, but we'll see what happens.

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I wanted to talk today. We're
going to focus on the ramping up of

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censorship. It is really they're stepping
it into high gear. And as we

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look at this, I think it's
what is this is causing. This is

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causing people who've been a part of
this, who didn't really approve of it,

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But now we've got whistleblowers who are
coming out to expose it because they

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realize how bad this is and how
rapidly it is ramping up. So we'll

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be right back stay with us.
Well again, thank you for all the

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messages about concern, and we did
put up. I was able to get

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on my phone and get up on
Twitter that the show is not going to

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be going live until we got power
back. But of course Twitter is kind

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of a dead platform for me,
has been for a long time, even

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though I typically have a you know, a large number of followers if you

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look at it, I've been shadow
band there for years and I really just

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quit posting anything. It's not put
the show up, but that's basically it.

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So for those of you, we'll
get this out to everybody this afternoon

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and we'll put it up as usual. So those of you who listen on

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podcast and watch it delayed, you
won't notice anything any different. But I

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want to thank people for the concern. And let's let's start with what is

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happening with free speech because it is. It's kind of interesting, massive new

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document dump showing what I've said all
along. We always knew that this was

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the case. We could detect it
from their motives, we could detect it

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from what they've been planning for decades. You'd go back, as I've talked

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about the fact that in the nineteen
sixties, you had JCR. Licklier at

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DARPA. So let's create this intergalactic
information network, a computer network. They

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shortened that to Internet. They didn't
have the technology. Once they got the

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technology, As I've said before,
in the nineties, you had the CIA

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was so adamant to get control of
this thing that they openly created a venture

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capital firm called Inku Tel, and
then other venture capital firms were loaded on

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their board of directors with people from
the intelligence community, people from the NSSA

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and the CIA and other things like
that. But they had their own venture

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capital firm, and all these different
venture capital firms were funding and picking the

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competitors who are going to play it
out. And just like our elections,

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you don't get in to being a
competitor unless you're somebody that they're going to

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ultimately be able to control. And
so they get the people that they can

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control, and then they say,
let the best one of these puppets win,

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and so you wind up with a
puppet, but it's the strongest of

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the puppets that are there. And
so that was what social media has always

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been about. So why everything was
free, That's how they built this thing

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up. And now we're getting to
look behind the curtain as whistleblowers are coming

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out very alarmed about what is happening
with it. As a matter of fact,

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when you look at the insanity of
all this stuff, YouTube is now

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going to allow monetization for nudity,
for torking, for sensual dancing and things

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like that. Not my Christmas songs. However, they will not allow you

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to say twenty twenty was a year
that the world became China. They won't

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allow that. But they will and
they say, well, we don't want

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to have people's ads show up on
something that they might not like, and

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we got to have a safe community
and we don't want to offend anybody.

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But they're going to now start funding
this and that is par for the course.

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But as we understand, you know, the consequences of this are really

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starting to spread out. As I've
pointed out, it's not just getting you

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know, in twenty eighteen, as
this cl thing that we're going to talk

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about, as I was being formed, that was when they lowered the boom,

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and that's when they openly took out
everybody at info Wars. We don't

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really care if you notice, right, And then that was in August of

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twenty eighteen. Two months later,
they took out eight hundred other people on

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social media. There were not Trump
supporters necessarily. Most of them, as

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a matter of fact, were not
Trump supporters for that just before that mid

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term in twenty eighteen. Most of
them were anti war, anti police state,

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anti surveillance state. Those are the
types of people that were taken out,

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people like the Free Thought Project,
for example. I interviewed them in

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the aftermath of that. It was
that was the type of people that they

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were removing. I know, when
you look at who they're taking out,

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and when you look at their history, you pretty much know where this is

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coming from. And yet for the
longest time we had in the wake of

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all that, Trump had the Rose
Garden Party and he invited all these conservative

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influencers in who were still on social
media. Interestingly enough, they weren't influencers

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enough that they were worthy to be
kicked off at that point in time,

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still are not as a matter of
fact, and so he brought them in.

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He brought in the biggest conservative think
tank, Heritage, He brought in

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the biggest libertarian think tank, Cato. They were all saying, well,

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corporations can do whatever they want.
This is not coming from the government.

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These are corporations. Corporations like people. They can do whatever they They've got

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rights just like you. They can
do anything that they want. And you

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even had people at Reason doing it, of course, and even John Stossel

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said, I don't like the fact
that I'm getting censored on YouTube, but

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hey, YouTube is a corporation.
They can do anything they want. And

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I think he really meant I don't
really think he was being a show.

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I think it's just incredibly stupid about
it, really stupid about it. Hadn't

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thought this thing through. That's not
what our society is based upon. And

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so Ron Paul's got a solution about
this, and he says we need to

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separate tech and state. He said, we need to make sure we have

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to have laws that prohibit communication between
the government and these social media companies and

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things like that, because we know
that they are what would be the word

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conspiring, conspiring, So we stop
them communicating from each other because they're conspiring

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against us. It is a conspiracy. It's not a theory. We knew

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it for the longest time. Now
we've got the receipts, the documents,

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we've got the Twitter files. Now
we've got the whistle bower about the CITL,

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so we know that that is happening. But that's not even the right

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answer. The right answer is that
we have to understand the difference between human

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beings and corporations. They're not the
same thing. Mitt Romney said they were.

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He's wrong about that is about almost
everything. Corporations are not people.

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Corporations are a legal entity created by
the government, and therefore they have been

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given privileges. They have no rights. They've been granted privileges as a way

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to exist, and since they're created
by a government, they're always going to

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be privileged, right. And human
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creatures of God. We have been
created by God. We are equal before

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God. That's the Christian principles that
this country was founded upon. That's what

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the Declaration of Independence says. And
so that principle, that Christian principle that

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all men are created equal and endowed
by their creator with inalienable rights, and

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that the purpose of government is to
protect those rights. That's all government is

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opposed to it. That's really the
only legitimate purpose of government is to protect

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those God given rights. Now that's
very different than the government creating a corporation.

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And if we go back to that
original understanding, we've gotten so far

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away from our Christian principles, so
we don't even understand what this country was

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founded on. The founding fathers were
standing on a Christian foundation, the idea

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that we are endowed by our creator
with inalienable rights. If we get back

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to that and we understand that there's
a big difference between that and a corporation,

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that would short circuit all of this
so called public private partnership nonsense,

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which is what these people that were
conspiring to do. It will get into

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the details of it. They were
saying, well, someone, as we

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called it, a public private partnership, we can do whatever we want.

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No, you can't. This is
a conspiracy. This is like mission impossible,

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mister Phelps. If you or any
of your team are caught, we

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will disavow any knowledge of which I've
been doing for a long time. But

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we knew they were lying about that, of course as well. And so

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the other part of the puzzle,
which would really shut this whole thing down.

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So so first of all, you
have to understand, well the differences

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between rights and privileges you have to
understand the difference between corporation and human And

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that's really important because the corporations are
going to be putting out robots. Are

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robots going to be given equal rights
to us or superior rights to us?

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Yeah, because maybe they're more valuable
than us. And so we've got to

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get that part of it right.
The other thing we have to get right

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is we have to go back to
what the Supreme Court said in nineteen forty

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six Marti Versuses Alabama that I've talked
about so many times. They said,

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in a cold town where somebody was
handing out a religious track, and they

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said, you can't do that.
This is private property. And they said,

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no, the public square, even
if it is privately owned, cannot

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be censored. This is the digital
public square. Jack Dorsey said it multiple

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times under oath when he was being
questioned about it. We all know that

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YouTube and Facebook and Twitter and TikTok
and all these companies are de facto digital

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public squares, and so we need
to have that same approach to it.

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Those two things would fix this,
and nobody's talking about them. Nobody.

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And again I'll say this, had
this argument back and forth with Robert Barnes

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on the air at Info Wars.
The nineteen forty six Marsh versus. Alabama

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case was not nullified by subsequent court
cases in California and elsewhere where. People

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said, I want to be able
to set up a soapbox and say whatever

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I want to in a protest in
a mall. No, you can't.

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That private property is retail space.
It's not the digital it's not the public

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square. It's retail space. They
have kiosks there. You can no more

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set up your protests in the middle
of a mall than you can to go

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into Sears or j C. Pennies, if any of them still existed.

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I don't even know if they exist
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But you can't go into the department
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and you can't do it out in
the common area of that. That has

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nothing to do with Marsh versus Alabama. Those are completely different things. Oh

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what is happening? That is all
you got? Does? I pointed out

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briefly yesterday James O'Keeffe put on this
SSSS list for extra screening on flights,

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which means that they not only put
him through enhanced and uh, you know,

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scanning and things like that. Uh, but they also have a marshall

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following him around. And where did
that come from? Well, that was

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the legacy of Trump and January the
sixth and Alex Jones and the stop the

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Steal stuff. Anybody who even flew
into that general area, just like you

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know, Bank of America is reporting
anybody that had any financial transactions on January

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sixth in that general area. They
were all reported to the FBI. And

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if you flew into those areas,
the fbis put you on their Super Secret

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List or the SSSS whatever that stands
for. It's like animal House where they

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put the guy's on double secret probation. Uh. Like you know, I

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laugh at this stuff and I don't
really care what they did to me,

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but we need to understand this has
happening. It gonna happen to everybody.

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You know, they're broadening the net
over everything. I've got a whole list

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here of fake garbage and DEI censorship, DEI based censorship. Because and these

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things, even though intrinsically they may
not matter, they're like the bump stock

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when it comes to the Second Amendment, all of these different issues where they're

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going out there and banning this and
that because it offends people are going to

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ban the name the Kansas City Chief's
mascot. And we want to come after

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this kid because he's got black and
red paint on his face and wearing an

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Indian headdress or Christmas Christmas decorations anything. None of that is really important,

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just like the bump stock is not
really important or the pistol brace is not

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really important. But they come after
these things to establish a principle. And

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the principle is very important. And
if you don't pay attention to the principle,

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then they will come after the meat
of the issue. First. They

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do it around the edges with infringement. And that's why, you know,

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the founders of this country understood the
tactics that would be taken, you know,

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and that it would be a gradual
process. It'd be done iteratively,

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as Fauci said, And so that's
why they talked about infringement. And yet

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when it comes to free speech,
they understand that free speech, unlike the

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weapons that we use to protect ourselves
from government aggression, the free speech can

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be taken away with a pen,
a signature on a law. And that's

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what they're doing in Ireland and other
places as well. So it's a very

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important principle and this is being broadened
and it's not just going to be when

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you look at it, all these
different streams of oppression are converging. The

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ID, the CBDC, the censorship, the government, you know, complete

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control of the narrative to push out
their stuff and shut down everybody else,

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and the constant surveillance of everybody.
All of these streams are coming together.

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So of free speech groups are calling
on the Congress to block funding of NewsGuard.

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You see the way this is operating
NewsGuard, Election Guard. They're operated

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under Microsoft, but they're being funded
by the government. As a matter of

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fact, we look at election Guard
underneath Microsoft as a corporation that was within

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Microsoft, but all their money came
from DARPA, had a ten million dollar

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contract directly from DARPA. And so
the government is pretending again that you know,

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as I used to say, you
know, this is the iron fist

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of censorship and a velvet glove of
private ownership. And so that's the way

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these things are set up. They
go to Microsoft, which has long been

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allied with them, ever since they
brought Bill Gates to heel with the antitrust

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situation. They let him off and
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they come to him to set these
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news guard to guard the election for
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the news for them, election guard, to guard the election for them.

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And of course the next thing that
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it frequently CCPA. So not the
Chinese Communist Party of America, but it

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might as well be. It's a
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who created it, and authentication,
and it is a coalition of hardware

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and software companies that are going to
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the BBC, the New York Times, Washington Post. They will identify those

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people, will identify who they don't
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the CPUs, the people who do
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mark everything that you create and make
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the Internet. You know, they're
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people are thorough. If nothing else, they're not going to just try to

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stop the propagation of information. They're
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the first place. They're going to
identify all of us. They're going to

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take us off financially. As I
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I was. Five years ago that
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and then shadow band on Twitter to
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off. But then it was two
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that I got purged financially with PayPal, with Memo and with other platforms like

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that. So this is all coming, and it's coming for everybody, not

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just people who speak out. It's
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thing about this is the fact that
this is still being funded by Congress and

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they put it in the NDAA because
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is something that is more vital than
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and the NDAA and the Pentagon and
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and the Intelligence Committee. They're not
about defending us. When they talk about

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national security, they're talking about their
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They don't care about us even in
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They are pushing us into a nuclear
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war, they will go to their
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die. That's been the plan from
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about us in any way, shape
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security, that's their security. So
we don't take them out put them in

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a guillotine. As Michael Bloomberg said, well, this is not about our

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security, it's about their security.
So they're outsourcing the censorship. We all

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know that that is what's happening.
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let's take a look at what is
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been saying, is they look at
this bill. This is becoming like Fahrenheit

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four fifty one. Because their response
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don't not only do I not care
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and how these people are violent and
this knife incident, which is the latest

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in a string of incidents. It
was the Irish people there did not react

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to that one incident. They're reacting
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which the government cares anything about.
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Prime Minister, who was from India
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decided that the Irish were the problem, just like you got the politician in

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Scotland. Too many white people here
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guy was from. Anyway. The
hate speech to law that Ireland is preparing

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to pass is arguably the most radical
legislation so far that we've seen in the

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formerly Free West, as Western civilization
is melting down, as Western civilization is

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being leveled by these Marxists. It
criminalizes the mere possession of materials that are

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likely to incite violence or hatred.
That includes books, videos, even memes

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on your phone. If you have
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offense and they can lock you up. This is beyond Fahrenheit four fifty one.

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As a matter of fact, if
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Minister of Ireland says, if the
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waving Irish flags, don't you think
that that is a provocation. Isn't that

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likely to incite violence or hatred?
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of course it is. So you
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flag in their house, or on
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right, because this is about nationalism
and that's why they've got why the leftists

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put in people from other countries to
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that when you look at Nikki Hilly, right, what does she do well?

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She says that Confederate flags were hate
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banned, right, And that is
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now. But it began with her. It began with this person who spent

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her career at the UN and doing
she began her career. As DeSantis points

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out in his latest commercial, she
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about why she got into politics is
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an ambassador to the UN. She
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Economic Forum, and she hates symbols
of our history and she will attribute them

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to be hateful. It's hateful.
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says persons shall be guilty of an
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or possesses material that is likely to
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group of persons on account of their
protected characteristics. What are the protected characteristics?

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national origin. But you better believe

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that it's not going to protect anybody
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Irish, they're going to go to
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legal under this bill? Why no, of course not. And then the

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other thing that they've added to this
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Gender. So gender would include a
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or female, they said, and
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Any gender other than male or female. There are no other genders other

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than male or female. And if
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get that? I got that from
the Bible. He created them male and

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female, two genders, and so
the Bible has got to go. Have

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you got a Bible in your house? Fahrenheit four fifty to one? Take

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the Bible? Will you also put
you in jail? Right? Ireland's Department

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of Justice argued that their previous hate
speech laws were not effective. It did

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not allow them to jail enough people. Well, here's what do you have

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to say addition to that, I
think it's now very obvious to anyone who

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might have doubted it. That's our
incitement hatred. Legislation is just not up

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to date. It's not up to
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we need that legislation through and we
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because it's not just the platforms of
a responsibility here and they do. There's

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also the individuals who post messages and
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and we need to be able to
use laws to go after them individually

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as well. And they said when
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said, quote, it is designed
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Yes, this is the very they're
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we've only had a thirty years since
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We've only had fifty prosecutions. So
these provisions were designed to be more

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effective in securing convictions. That's what
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do they have trial by jury in
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is a jury going to be informed? This is the Irish government's response to

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their people's outrage over mass migration.
Shut up and take it, I said

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one person on Twitter. Of course, in the threat is or we will

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lock you up. Now as everybody
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banning free speech, you're banning this, you're banning this. The Green Party

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politician had this to say about bans. When you think about it, all

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law, all legislation is about the
restriction of freedom. That's exactly what we're

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doing here is we are restricting freedom, but we're doing it for the common

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good. You will see throughout our
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they are restricted for the common good. Everything needs to be balanced. And

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if your views on other people's identities
go to make their lives unsafe, insecure,

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and cause them such deep discomfort that
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I believe that it is our job
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common good. Yeah, this is
the Green Party that wants to take everything

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that you have. It's going to
be the Green agenda that is going to

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be the basis the climate macguff and
the basis for making sure that you own

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nothing, let you go nowhere,
that you have nothing to eat, that

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sort of thing, and it's been
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World Economic Forum was talking about the

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common good. They talked about the
common pass and all the rest of these

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things, and a common id,
common global id. It is communism.

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And what she is describing there,
you know, if somebody's uncomfortable with what

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you're doing, well, they weren't
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Well what if I'm uncomfortable with them
doing that? What if they make me

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uncomfortable? Well, it depends on
who you are. Because we have a

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ranking system here. Not all the
animals on animal farm are equal. Some

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animals are more equal than others.
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their their their political law. Get
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of course the most equal animals are
the ones like her at the top.

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They make the rules, they are
protected, and they claim that you are

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coming after a national security if you
come after them. And so this is

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not about rights. This is about
privileges the government can take from you and

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give to somebody else. So this
is something said this writer get his name

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here, Nate Hauckman. Nate Houckman
said, same thing I've been saying for

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the longest time. This is something
that we're seeing across the West across Western

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civilization. A state that is at
war with its own people. He says

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its own nation, but here he
means his own people. I've said that

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as well, and we saw this. This is not something new. This

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began in twenty twenty as they were
all going through the lockstep to lock us

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down. And I said that about
Trump, I said, he's a globalist.

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Look at what he's doing. He's
doing the same thing that Trudeau is

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doing. He's doing the same thing
that Macron is doing. He's doing the

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same thing that all these people that
you criticize are doing. He was at

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the World Economic Forum. You know, they come after people. It's interesting

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they come after people because they have
been selected as a World Economic Forum youth

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leaders. They came after Vaiveak Ramaswami
and he did a lawsuits. They take

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my name off of there. You
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way that is with a lot of

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these people. But all the time
you'll have people say, well, look

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at Dan Crenshaw, Tulca Gabbard,
they were World Economic Forum Young leaders chosen.

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I have not. I'm not aware. Maybe they did. I'm not

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aware that they pull back and disavowed
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you have people like the Virginia governor
Youngkin, or you have people like the

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Georgia governor Brian Kemp, and they
actually went, oh, now MAGA really

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hates them. What about Donald Trump? Donald Trump went not once but twice.

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Donald Trump, as a matter of
fact, went right before he locked

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us all down. And he did
everything that all the other people there at

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the World Economic Form did. But
we must never say anything about Donald Trump.

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I had such I did look at
some comments on this, and I

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get so much hate after I had
David Stockman on yesterday to talk about his

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book, Trump's warren Capitalism. Trump
was a war with America. He was

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at war with the constitution. Capitalism
was just one part of it. He

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went to war with every single one
of us. He told us that we

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were non essential unless we were Wall
Street Corporation. Unless that unless we were

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some kind of multinational stakeholder, we
were non essential. Donald Trump did everything

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that Klaus Schwab would have done,
everything that Klaus Schwab would have done.

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He will get no criticism from the
Maga cult whatsoever for anything. They will

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rightfully criticize all these other people.
Just take a look at the Pennsylvania election.

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You mayb we had Kathy Bennett there, She says. These other people,

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these two front runners that are vying
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both went to the World Economic Forum. They're both rich billionaires or millionaires,

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multimillionaires or whatever. And so Trump
endorsed the rich multimillionaire who went to the

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World Economic Forum, who was also
a select because that's where he likes to

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hang out. That makes it a
lot of difference for him, but not

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the real conservative, not Kathy Bennett, who called them out for that.

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So Trump doesn't have a problem.
I mean, did he indorse them because

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they're part of Hydra, right hel
Hydra because the guy handshake whispers in his

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ear? Did Trump do it for
that? It certainly did not disqualify them

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in his eyes. He didn't care, and maybe that was an advantage for

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him to endorse them. But anyway, it is every nation, every government

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at war with his own people because
these people are all part of the UN

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World Economic Forum Hydra club, if
you will, and that is what they're

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doing. Okay, So Trudeau,
as we see the EU putting out their

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digital ID. So now we got
the digital ID. Now we got the

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wallet. Now we've got to put
the CBDC in it. Do it soon.

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Trudeau is doing this for Canada.
He's now opened up a partnership with

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the EU for this digital ID.
This is why I say, I think

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this is why we got whistleblowers,
because people are looking at how rapidly this

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is coming and understand that they want
to have their system in place by twenty

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thirty. They're taking us down completely
if they follow their plan, if we

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don't wake up, if we don't
oppose it, if we don't set up

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our own way to get out of
this net that they've set up, and

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a big part of that is the
inter net that they've set up. And

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we don't find a parallel structure,
ways that we can operate outside of this,

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not necessarily one hundred percent, even
just enough that you can be outside

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of it. If we don't find
a way to do this, they're going

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00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.160
to take us down one way or
the other. It may be with war,

409
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.079
it may be with a phony pandemic, it may be with a real

410
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.079
pandemic, it may be with you
name it. Whatever they're going to do,

411
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.359
it's disruption. As Fauci said just
before they did this pandemic, you

412
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:00.440
do it with this uption, you
do it from the inside, and you

413
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:05.000
do it iteratively. But they're stepping
this up. The iterations are coming much

414
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.720
more quickly, and they're taking bigger
steps, just like watching the Federal Reserve

415
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.519
start to raise the interest rates not
by a quarter of a percent each time,

416
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:15.039
but by three quarters of a percent
each time. And so they're ramping

417
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.599
this thing up to take us down. And all of these different streams of

418
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.240
the ID and the CBDC and the
censorship and the propaganda, they're all converging

419
00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.759
together at once. And and justin
Trudeau he says we've now finalized a controversial

420
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:36.920
well he didn't call it controversial.
This is reclaimed the net, saying that

421
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:43.119
he finalizes a controversial collaborative digital partnership
of the European Union full commitment to the

422
00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:46.519
introduction of a digital identity system in
Canada, and the government is pursuing it

423
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.599
under the guise of fighting online disinformation. See how they all come together,

424
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.119
And of course, remember Nicki Haley
wants to know your name. Nicki's not

425
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:00.359
her real name. Her real name
is Nuki. Her real name is Nimroda

426
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:04.920
something all with it, and she
married somebody who was an American. Uh

427
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.680
so she's again, you know,
we need our own Indian foreign president so

428
00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:14.400
we can follow on the path of
Ireland, don't we. The Trudeau government's

429
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:19.880
announcement delineates the terms of the Canada
EU Digital Partnership, which aims not only

430
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.880
to institute digital credentials for Canadians,
but also to bolster cooperation in the field

431
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.640
of artificial intelligence AI. Well,
they're going to do it for data mining

432
00:33:29.680 --> 00:33:31.200
and they're going to that's what they're
going to use AI for. They're going

433
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.559
to use it for data mining,
and they're going to use it for that

434
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.880
other AI that's been around for a
very long time. Anticipatory intelligence or as

435
00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:45.039
you may think of it, pre
crime from a Northea report, That has

436
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:49.319
been something that they've been working on
for decades, especially in the nineties.

437
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:55.880
The Geospatial Intelligence Agency or James Clapper
rose fastest growing part of the intelligence agency

438
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.000
in order to do the kinds of
things that they did on January the sixth

439
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.160
to conservative protesters, geospacial intelligence to
map out your politics, map out your

440
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:07.679
location whereabouts, to make sure that
you don't get out of your fifteen minute

441
00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:12.159
city area. All of these types
of things. That's been very important for

442
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.719
them. Geospatial intelligence. They have
poured everything into that for the last twenty

443
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:17.840
years and now they're going to start
applying it to us. But a part

444
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:24.320
of that is anticipatory intelligence AI.
That AI, and for anticipatory intelligence,

445
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:31.599
they're going to need artificial intelligence to
help them to collate to mine all this

446
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:36.519
information that they've got on us with
the scanners and the biometrics and all the

447
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:40.719
rest of this stuff. Gates Foundations
doubling down on its push for digital ID

448
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.559
and to tie it to digital money, and they're doing it in Nigeria.

449
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:51.840
He's focusing on these poor countries.
He focused years ago in India, came

450
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.840
up with the Adhar system and he
said, well, you know that we

451
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:58.719
got all these people who are just
not in the banking system and we need

452
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.920
to get them an ID. We
all understand what he was doing now,

453
00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:06.880
right, don't we? And so
he's doing the same thing now in Nigeria.

454
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:08.880
And what they did in India was
they blackmailed people. They went to

455
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:15.079
the poorest people and they said,
we will give you government welfare, will

456
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:17.639
give you medical care, we'll give
you food and things like that, but

457
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:21.599
you gotta take the number. And
that's what they want to do to us.

458
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.119
That's why they're going to destroy everything, why they have to level it

459
00:35:23.920 --> 00:35:27.719
so they have that leverage over us. You take the money, you take

460
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:30.639
the number of the beast, the
number of the government, or you die.

461
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:37.559
It's just that simple. It's purposely
targeting countries where it's easier to get

462
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:40.719
this stuff through because the way that
it operates, But it's really the poor

463
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.639
countries that it makes it easier for
him to get through. And Nigeria,

464
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:51.840
the Gates Foundation President for Global Growth
Opportunities, is actually quote challenging the country's

465
00:35:51.840 --> 00:36:00.679
government to make more investments to create
a DPI ecosystem, and of course that's

466
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:07.639
just their buzzword for their digital control. DPI is digital public infrastructure, not

467
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.480
dots per inch, which is all
I always think of it as a printer.

468
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.159
But again he's coming out with us
publicly. He wants to have fifty

469
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:19.760
countries within the next five years that
are all going to be on CBDC.

470
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:22.960
And so you know, when you
talk about Nigerie, what is their big

471
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:30.840
problem is that their wars, their
race wars, their incredible violence, the

472
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.280
persecution of Christians is happening, and
the war on Christians there, No,

473
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.719
it's none of that. None of
that. Their problem is they don't have

474
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:39.639
an ID so we can control them. That's what their problem is. Well,

475
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:42.800
we're going to take a quick break
and we come back. We're going

476
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:46.599
to start now talking about the CTIL, the files that have now been released,

477
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:52.199
and Michael Schellenberger has a long article
on this, and we'll talk about

478
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.159
that when we come back. Let
me just respond to some of the people

479
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.880
who have been kind enough to leave
a comment and a tip. As a

480
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.280
matter of fact, on Rockvie and
Brian McCartney, thank you very much for

481
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.000
the tip. They said, just
glad that you're up and running. Was

482
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.239
praying that you were all safe and
that it was only a communication or internet

483
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:12.440
issue. Thank you very much for
that. Even got to sign up for

484
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:15.079
a Twitter account under Brian's name to
check on you. We have been banned

485
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:19.480
for years from that platform. Well
there go, you can get on.

486
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.000
It doesn't necessarily mean that if you're
on their bad side, then their bad

487
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:25.320
list, you know, like I
got on that they're ever gonna take me

488
00:37:25.400 --> 00:37:30.280
off. But you can be there
and on rock Fan. Thank you very

489
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:31.719
much, Eric, I appreciate the
tip. Thank you. So both of

490
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:37.360
we've got people on rock Fans rumble
up and working. Okay, good And

491
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:38.480
let me just say this too.
You know, a lot of people say,

492
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:42.000
yeah, what about a power backup? Look, the problem that we

493
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.039
have a power backup and we've had
a lot of these power outages here and

494
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:53.599
the problem with the power backup is
that we don't we have internet coming in

495
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.880
in the same way. We don't
have the band with We tried getting a

496
00:37:55.920 --> 00:38:00.960
hotspot that we could use with us
because he's for us to get a power

497
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:05.840
back up, a generator or something
like that, but the problem is the

498
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.920
internet connection and having the bandwidth to
put this out to multiple streams, and

499
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:12.280
so we can't do that. You
know, when this happened before, when

500
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.679
we were in Texas and everything,
all the windmills froze that the Republicans had

501
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:21.000
put in for the billionaires and paid
for the infrastructure and paid for running the

502
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:22.320
wires back to the grid and all
the rest of this stuff. I mean,

503
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:28.239
the crony capitalism and the corruption in
Texas is disgusting. It's all coming

504
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:34.000
from gop so just so you know, but you know, when all that

505
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.480
thing, when the windmills froze and
everybody lost their power, we did the

506
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:45.000
broadcast with a phone because we really
were not up at that point in time.

507
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.400
We'd only been doing the show for
a couple of weeks, and we

508
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:49.880
really weren't on at a lot of
different places at that point in time.

509
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:54.440
And the first few shows that we
did we did with my son holding the

510
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.519
you know, one of my sons
holding the iPhone in front of me on

511
00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:02.199
the desk, and so we had
already been doing shows that way just a

512
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:07.960
week or two before, and so
we continued with it. You know,

513
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.719
other places, even Info Wars with
all the elaborate backup that they've got there,

514
00:39:12.039 --> 00:39:15.079
they blacked out. But we did
it, and we put it up

515
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.039
on Twitter. Had more of an
active Twitter account at that point in time,

516
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:24.079
and I had to do the show
with a with a candle, and

517
00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:27.480
so you did a candle light.
And then as I was doing the show,

518
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:31.000
one of the pipes burst, said, Travis and Karen were running around.

519
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:36.079
My other son was holding the phone, and Karen and Travis were running

520
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.079
around trying to stop the water.
You know, mitigate to keep it from

521
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:42.880
getting over where we were and then
get it turned off. And so you

522
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.199
know, we've done that type of
thing in the past, but here we've

523
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.760
got enough streams that are going now
that the internet is the issue. So

524
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.840
unless we get really high speed wireless
internet, which we've not been able to

525
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:57.039
find yet, the power out of
just shut us down. And I don't

526
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:01.039
know what happened today. Usually this
has happened because there's been weather, wind

527
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:06.000
or something like that knocks over a
tree, and because you know a lot

528
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.280
of trees here, it takes out
the power to us or to somebody else.

529
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:15.119
But that was not the case today. It was cold, but it

530
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.000
must have been somebody with an automobile
accident that took something out because it went

531
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:24.000
out about six o'clock and this morning, and so that's what I'm guessing was

532
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.159
really behind it. We're to take
a quick break. When we come back,

533
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.920
we're going to talk about the c
T I L Files, So stay

534
00:40:30.960 --> 00:41:19.400
with us. We'll be right back. You're listening to the David Knight Show,

535
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:25.760
Elvis the Beetle and the Sweet Sounds
of Motown. Find them on the

536
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:32.199
Oldies Channel at APS radio dot com. All right. And as I said,

537
00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:36.000
we're talking about the c T I
L files. This is like the

538
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.519
Twitter files, but it is more
extensive, and it verifies everything that we've

539
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.920
already known. All you had to
do was look at who was benefiting from

540
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.719
this and look at what they had
done in the past. We knew where

541
00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:52.320
they were headed with this, and
if you had any discernment, if you

542
00:41:52.360 --> 00:41:54.840
had any you know, people in
the media should have understood this. They

543
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.599
were the ones that I was upset
with. I understand the public for the

544
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.119
most part, didn't know it,
but there's no reason for people who are

545
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:06.679
in the media not to understand what
this is about. And many of them

546
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.800
didn't, and many of the think
tanks didn't understand it. And I don't

547
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:14.239
think there's any excuse for that Heritage
Foundation, CATO reason. All those people

548
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:21.840
just did not get it, did
not understand the principles involved either. Many

549
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.239
people insist that the governments are not
involved in censorship, but they are now.

550
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:30.559
Whistleblower has come forward with an explosive
new trove of documents, rivaling or

551
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:36.599
exceeding the Twitter files and the Facebook
files, both in scale and importance,

552
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.559
and I would agree with that.
I don't know about the scale, but

553
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:45.639
I would say this is more important
frankly. And so this is a thing

554
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.320
that's been put out on substackics,
put together by Michael shellen Berger, Alex

555
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.599
Gutenthogg and Matt Taibi who went through
this information. And this is just part

556
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.880
one of this expos but it names
names and it shows you exact factly how

557
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:04.760
they were putting this together. The
US and UK, you know, part

558
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.880
of the Five Eyes. And of
course they explicitly within this document talk about

559
00:43:08.119 --> 00:43:12.480
doing this with the Five Eyes.
The Five Eyes the five English speaking countries

560
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.039
that collaborate with their intelligence agencies.
It's one big spy network. That's why

561
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.800
they call the Five Eyes a US, UK, Canada, New Zealand and

562
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:27.920
Australia. So the US and the
UK military contractors created sweeping plan for global

563
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:35.519
censorship in twenty eighteen, and that's
when they went public with their censorship plans.

564
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.119
Now they don't talk about it here, but I just have to say

565
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:42.760
that no matter how bad TikTok is, no matter how bad it is,

566
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:49.159
we should not support it being banned
because it's just like drugs and the drug

567
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.639
wars. I've said before, if
we allow them However, to establish this

568
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.360
that they can take out an entire
platform. Guess what's going to happen.

569
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.039
Well, then they'll start complaining.
Well, you know, rumble is just

570
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.679
really bad. You see this all
the time. Oh, look at this

571
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:05.320
platform or that platform is filled with
Nazis. Well, the Nazis are going

572
00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.679
to go wherever there's a real free
speech. It's going to be the price

573
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.960
you pay, because to have free
speech, you're going to have to put

574
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:15.199
up with speech that you don't agree
with. And so you're going to have

575
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:19.920
people who are like Nazis, and
you're going to have people who are radical

576
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:22.840
Islamicists that you don't agree with.
And that's the price that you pay for

577
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:30.039
freedom. And if you can't refute
people like that, you you don't just

578
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:34.320
give it up. I mean,
come on, they're the easiest people in

579
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:39.440
the world to take down, argue
against. You know, let them speak.

580
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:44.199
The more they speak, the more
they put themselves into a hole.

581
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.960
And you know, so only a
very, very sick society is going to

582
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.639
support people like that. And so
how do we make sure we don't have

583
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.599
a sick society. Well, we
have to have the freedom of speech.

584
00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:58.519
To have freedom of religion, and
it is going to be in our religious

585
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:00.960
values that we're going to be able
to pose p like radical Islamisists, people

586
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:06.840
like Nazis, and people like the
ones running our own government right now,

587
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.119
the CIA, the NSA, and
these people. They are as bad as

588
00:45:09.159 --> 00:45:16.039
the Nazis. They're as bad as
the radical Islamicists. They're even worse because

589
00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:21.559
you don't know who they are and
you don't understand what they're up to.

590
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.199
So again, in twenty eighteen,
August, Info Wars October eight hundred other

591
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.119
sites. But getting back to this, the one thing I disagree with these

592
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:37.480
guys on Matt Tybee and Tybee and
Schellenberger, they said this is done in

593
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.079
reaction to Brexit and Trump election in
twenty sixteen. No, it wasn't.

594
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.840
No, it wasn't. This was
planned for decades. I got to contact

595
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:51.360
Matt Tybee. He contacted me once
and interviewed me about censorship, my censorship,

596
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:52.360
and maybe I can get in touch
with him. I'd like to interview

597
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:57.760
him, and I'd like to expand
his horizons. Do you understand the history

598
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:00.480
of this stuff? Yeah, I'm
going back to the ninety he's going back

599
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.079
to the sixties. For sixty years, have been working on this stuff.

600
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.239
Yes, they did it quote unquote
in response to Bresit and Trump. They

601
00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:13.840
use that as justification, you understand, justification to roll out what they've been

602
00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:17.119
working on and planning on for decades. You know, that's not to say

603
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:21.039
that, you know, to say
that this is a response to Bregsit and

604
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:23.440
Trump is to say that twenty twenty
and the lockdowns and the vaccines and the

605
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:28.280
masks and all the social distancing and
the ventilators and the rest of this stuff,

606
00:46:28.360 --> 00:46:30.119
to say that was in reaction to
COVID, No, it wasn't.

607
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.519
It was their plan that they'd practiced
for twenty years. They used that as

608
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:40.119
an excuse, and it was a
phony excuse at that, just like I

609
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:44.920
think Trump is a phony excuse.
I think it was part of them.

610
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:50.559
I think he was a controlled opposition. Anyway, it was justification. They

611
00:46:50.679 --> 00:46:53.000
planned this all along, they practiced
it. They're moving step by step,

612
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:58.599
doing it from the inside, doing
it with disruption. So he said this

613
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.840
digon twiszle blowers come forward with an
explosive neutrobe of documents rivaling or exceeding the

614
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.800
Twitter files, Facebook files, and
so forth. They described activities as of

615
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:16.400
an anti disinformation group quote unquote called
the Cyber Threat Intelligence League League the league

616
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.119
I was looking at that. I
always think of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

617
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:24.599
Well, I guess this is the
League of extraordinary non gentleman You go

618
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.920
back to the early part of the
twentieth century, and I forget whether it

619
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:32.360
was British or American intelligence. This
is one guy who is head of the

620
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:37.000
intelligence agency. And there we was
just you know, they said, well,

621
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:42.239
you know, they were surveilling somebody
and they wanted him to look at

622
00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:44.559
their mail. He says, I'm
sorry, gentlemen, did not read other

623
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:50.360
gentlemen's mail. If only we had
people like that in government, now can

624
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:54.760
you imagine? So this is the
extraordinary non league of non gentlemen that are

625
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:59.559
doing this. And so they said, well, this is nothing, but

626
00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:05.000
this is a a volunteer project,
a volunteer project to people who were defense

627
00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:07.920
and intelligence veterans, and not even
just veterans. By veterans, they mean

628
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.239
they've been there a very long time. Doesn't mean that they had left.

629
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:16.320
And these are people who pretended that
this is a public private partnership. Well,

630
00:48:16.480 --> 00:48:20.440
you know, I yes, for
a long time I worked for them,

631
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.639
and oh, by the way,
and I still do. But I

632
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:28.719
have this private corporation on the side, which is one hundred percent funded by

633
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.880
the intelligence agencies. But it's a
private public partnership. And as long as

634
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:36.199
it's a private public partnership, I
can do whatever I want. The First

635
00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.039
Amendment doesn't apply. Do you understand
how phony that is? This is way

636
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:44.519
beyond what we find out in these
files. This is way beyond the idea

637
00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.880
that you know they're they're sending messages
to Twitter and Facebook and telling them shut

638
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:54.599
down David Knight or whatever. This
is way beyond that. This is These

639
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:58.920
are people who are openly talking about
how they're going to do it. And

640
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:02.440
as long as we have the pretense
that this is private, we can disavow

641
00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:07.320
any knowledge of what is actually happening
here, any responsibility, and we don't

642
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:09.440
have to follow the law. We
don't have to follow the first because we've

643
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:15.840
got a private company here. And
that's the kind of thinking that was coming

644
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:20.280
out from Heritage Foundation and cater Institute. Somebody needs to look at their connections

645
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:25.280
to the military industrial complex. Were
they shills for them saying that kind of

646
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:32.960
stuff? So partnerships. They also
had partnerships with the role of military and

647
00:49:34.000 --> 00:49:39.000
intelligence agencies. They had partnerships that
partnerships with civil society organizations, you know,

648
00:49:39.239 --> 00:49:46.480
like George Soros, and with commercial
media, mainstream media. And they

649
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:54.480
used sock puppet accounts to go on
offense against people. So lock your excrement

650
00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:59.360
down, says one document about creating
your spy disguise. That's what they called

651
00:49:59.360 --> 00:50:04.079
it. Your spine is. But
of course this is all allowed, isn't

652
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:07.920
it under their rules? Under their
new rules, all the stuff in why

653
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.159
to people? You can do it
in secret? What does Nikki think about

654
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:15.159
this? Niki Haley? You know
she wants to know their name. Well,

655
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.880
what's that going to do with the
talk puppet accounts? Well, of

656
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.639
course they'll be able to do things
secretly because they're different, all right.

657
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.880
They're the intelligence community. They're the
government. The rules don't apply to them.

658
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.639
They make the rules for us.
They are the government. Here and

659
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.719
Other explains that while such activities overseas
are typically done by the quote typically quote

660
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:37.400
unquote by the CIA, in the
NSA and the Department of Defense, we

661
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:42.920
can do this against Americans if we
use private partners because the government doesn't have

662
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.519
the legal authority to do this.
So let's use, you know, put

663
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:52.360
on the the Groucho Marx glasses with
a big nose and the mustache, and

664
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:58.400
we will do this as a private
corporation, will pretend that we're the private

665
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:05.639
corporation. This is over the last
year we've had congressional investigators and others document

666
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:09.920
the rights of the censorship industrial complex
and network of over one hundred government agencies

667
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:16.039
and also non governmental organizations that worked
together to urge censorship by social media platforms

668
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:22.599
and to spread propaganda about disfavored individuals, topics and all entire whole narratives.

669
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:28.559
Nothing new about any of this stuff. And then what they say when they

670
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.800
look at the whistleblower, So they
find that at the epicenter of this is

671
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:37.280
the cyber Security Information Security Agency SISA. They tried three times to pass it

672
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:44.320
when it was called SISPA p and
then they tried SOPA ACTA PIPPA, various

673
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.320
forms of this. They all failed. They dropped the P. What is

674
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:53.159
the PA about protection? And they
had that there because the gist of it

675
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:59.360
was that they wanted to protect private
corporations that were going to partner with them

676
00:51:59.360 --> 00:52:04.119
you understand, you see, this
is all private public partnership, and so

677
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.800
that p stood for protection, but
it could also stand they could do peepee,

678
00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:15.920
it's getting too many letters there,
so it could be cisp CISPA,

679
00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:23.239
cis p PA, you know,
protect the private part of the security agency.

680
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:28.880
And it was clear from that how
you know, if you looked at

681
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:34.000
that process. And again they tried
it at least two times as CISPA.

682
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.119
They also tried SOPA active PIPPA,
and they were all the same, and

683
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:44.119
they were all being opposed by Aaron
Schwartz, who was a part of the

684
00:52:44.199 --> 00:52:50.159
cyber community. And they killed him. They killed him, said he committed

685
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.000
suicide. He did not commit suicide
because they were going to trumped up charges

686
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:57.639
against him. It was the federal
government. They accused him of breaking into

687
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:01.320
Harvard and doing some stuff onl line. Harvard looked at, they didn't care.

688
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:06.280
Local law enforcement looked at they didn't
care. So they got the federal

689
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.519
attorney to come after him, and
and he didn't care. This wasn't his

690
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.480
first rodeo. He was like,
I'm not gonna do anything about that.

691
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:19.119
But then he dies and they take
him to jail. He dies in jail,

692
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.639
and they say, well, you
know, he committed suicide like Jeffrey

693
00:53:21.639 --> 00:53:29.039
Epstein or something right, and and
and and so people got very angry with

694
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:35.000
the federal attorney who was prosecuting or
persecuting him, I should say. And

695
00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:40.159
her husband, her name was Carmine
Ortiz. Her husband put out on social

696
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:45.719
media she didn't drive him to suicide. She was she gave him an offer,

697
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:49.840
said, okay, do this and
we'll just take it down to you

698
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.159
know, not decades in prison,
but we'll do it for you know,

699
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:57.719
three months or something like that.
And so he didn't do it for that.

700
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.840
Well, then he took that down, but it was too late.

701
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:08.079
People got it. And so that
completely belies the motivation of suicide because he

702
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:10.960
was so distraught, or the fact
that he was going to go to jail

703
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:15.440
for a very very long time,
as if he was involved in January the

704
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.760
sixth. Of course, it's all
pre dated January sixth by quite a bit.

705
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.280
But he had fought that. He
told people what this is about,

706
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:22.840
and he was a point man fighting
in I think it was Mike McCall out

707
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:28.440
of Texas who was a point man
who was pushing SISPA and original and then

708
00:54:28.440 --> 00:54:30.840
finally got it through as SISSA,
but it was always this is at the

709
00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:38.199
center of all this, And understand
that these intelligence organizations were always creating this

710
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:46.039
web of the military and the intelligence
agencies and then private corporations and the p

711
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:52.960
in there was initially there to say, well, we're going to protect any

712
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.599
companies that turn over information about the
people who are using their service on the

713
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.559
Internet. Were going to protect them
from being sued by the those people,

714
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:07.400
and that's what it did, but
also created this new bureaucracy and her homeland

715
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:15.639
security. So they have emails between
sissa's social media partners show that they created.

716
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:22.119
SISA created the Election Integrity Partnership in
twenty twenty, which involved the Stanford

717
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:28.639
Internet Observatory and other US government contractors. I'm sure in that there's also the

718
00:55:28.639 --> 00:55:31.519
one that operated out of the University
of Indiana, and I've talked about that

719
00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:37.079
before. Oh so me and they
had the guy that was head of that

720
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:45.119
social media manipulation monitoring and manipulation thing. The guy who was there had come

721
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.599
over from Italy to be put in
charge of the Kinsey Perverted Sex Institute,

722
00:55:50.599 --> 00:55:54.800
which is part of that university there
in Indiana. This conservative state alex all

723
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:59.840
Republicans, and they've got the Kinsey
Institute there, and so they brought this

724
00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.199
I were from India in Italy,
not India Italy to run that thing,

725
00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.920
and then they moved them over to
be their spy on social media anyway.

726
00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:16.360
Then the successor to the EIP,
the Election Integrity Partnership, was the Virality

727
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.280
Project, and it was the one
that was communicating with Twitter, Facebook and

728
00:56:21.280 --> 00:56:25.840
other platforms that sensor social media posts
by ordinary citizens and also by elected officials,

729
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:30.639
all of them. And again it's
very difficult to follow this web of

730
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:35.440
intrigue, and it's not necessary to
follow this web intrigue. As they point

731
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.679
out, there's more than one hundred
organizations, and then there's the private ones,

732
00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:42.679
and then there's all the corporations,
and they keep changing them as they

733
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:46.639
did with this, But the framework
is the same. The framework is this

734
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:52.519
excuse of it being public private.
The public private model the seeds of what

735
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:54.480
both the US and the UK would
put into place in twenty twenty and twenty

736
00:56:54.480 --> 00:57:02.519
twenty one, including masking censorship within
cyber security institutions and counter disinformation agendas,

737
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.840
a heavy focus on stopping disfavored narratives
and not just the wrong facts. You

738
00:57:07.880 --> 00:57:15.920
see the ctil's approach the disinformation.
They went far beyond censorship. It shows

739
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:21.199
that they engaged in offensive operations to
influence public opinion, discussing ways to promote

740
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:28.280
counter messaging, to co op hashtags, to dilute disfavored messaging, to create

741
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.840
sock puppet accounts, and to infiltrate
private invite only groups. And we saw

742
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:37.679
all of this happening through the so
called pandemic, and of course it's all

743
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:43.039
ways been there to some extent,
and even more so now with the climate

744
00:57:43.079 --> 00:57:47.800
stuff. So the Internet and social
media were created for this very purpose.

745
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:54.800
The FBI declined to comment to these
people about this. SISA would not comment

746
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:01.199
on it, but they don't have
to. We know one particular person named

747
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.920
terp she was one of the key
players. She would also not respond.

748
00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:12.199
They said that one person that did
respond, by the name of Bonnie Smalley,

749
00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:16.159
replied over LinkedIn and said quote,
all I can comment on is that

750
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:22.199
I joined a CTI league, which
is not only which is unaffiliated with any

751
00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:28.719
government organizations, and I did it
because I wanted to combat the inject bleach

752
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:34.280
nonsense online During COVID. I can
assure you that we had nothing to do

753
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:39.920
with a government, though I'm not
assured, uh, And I don't know

754
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.000
what her motivations are. I find
that difficult to believe. Quite frankly,

755
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:49.719
this injecting bleach nonsense that she's talking
about. This is so stupid that I

756
00:58:49.719 --> 00:58:52.800
didn't believe it was. I didn't
believe that even Trump believed it. It

757
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:54.519
was so stupid. And I've said
this, you know all this stuff,

758
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:58.400
Oh, you know, could inject
sunlight in people's veins, and we could

759
00:58:58.440 --> 00:59:00.920
do this, and we could do
that. And he does that in conjunction

760
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:05.440
with a droxy CLOrk one which,
along with zinc, was going to was

761
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:09.559
working for a lot of people and
getting them over the respiratory disease rather than

762
00:59:09.639 --> 00:59:17.400
sending them to the hospital where Trump's
richly rewarded hospital protocol was killing people.

763
00:59:19.239 --> 00:59:22.840
But he put this stuff out.
He played the fool, He played the

764
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:30.400
clown Defauci's serious scientist. Oh that's
Trump. You just can't You can't believe

765
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:32.679
anything this guy says. He doesn't
know. I'm the scientist here. He

766
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:44.599
played costello to Fauci's abbot. He
was the clown de Fauci's straight man,

767
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:50.400
and I don't believe that this was
something that's been injecting bleach nonsense. She

768
00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:52.440
had to get online and become part
of this to stop that. Nobody was

769
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:57.039
taking that seriously. It was so
stupid, not even Trump would take it

770
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:01.360
seriously. So that's a bunch of
nonsense, right there, Geesebusters, Good

771
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:04.639
to see you there, and thank
you so much. That's very generous.

772
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:07.079
I appreciate that. On Rumble,
David, so glad you're back up,

773
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:10.880
started getting with Dralton fifteen this morning. Yeah, so did I I was

774
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:15.960
getting really antsy about all this stuff
as you get into this in terms of

775
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:22.159
a habit and it's like, oh
no, but anyway, Yeah, back

776
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:25.719
to this. So terp this the
person who was at the very center of

777
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.199
this. She had a SISA badge, but it went away at some point,

778
01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:37.599
said the whistleblower. Yeah yeah,
mister Phelps. Let's see, IA

779
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:42.119
will disavow any knowledge of you if
you're caught or captured. So you know,

780
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.880
these are people who work for them, people who still work for them

781
01:00:44.920 --> 01:00:46.280
putting this stuff together. As a
matter of fact, kind of the co

782
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:53.719
founder of all this thing was a
guy who was working with Let's see here

783
01:00:53.760 --> 01:01:01.519
it is right here. His name
is Pablo Brewer Pomblow. He was also

784
01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:08.400
a leader with the League, the
League of Non Gentleman and he was somebody

785
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:14.679
who was a former US Navy commander. Poblow was uh. He was military

786
01:01:14.679 --> 01:01:20.159
director of US Special Operations Command Donovan
Group. UH. He had been an

787
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:24.440
advisor and an officer UH to the
National Security Agency, the US Cyber Command,

788
01:01:24.519 --> 01:01:30.000
many of these other things. So
he's heavily involved in military intelligence also

789
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:31.239
with the NSA all the rest of
the stuff. Look, when I was

790
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:39.639
doing all this uh investigation into asymmetric
warfare, Admiral McRaven was head of Special

791
01:01:39.639 --> 01:01:46.639
Operations at the time, and what
he was saying was, we've always we've

792
01:01:46.679 --> 01:01:52.679
come to think of special Forces green
Berets and others, you know, including

793
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:58.320
Navy seals. We've come to think
of them in terms of kinetic operations,

794
01:01:58.440 --> 01:02:00.519
in other words, jumping out a
plane and scuba diving and all the rest

795
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:05.519
of this stuff, and underwater demolition. He says, that's not the way

796
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:12.800
the Special forces began. Special forces
were originally set up as psychological operations.

797
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:15.280
That's what we've got to get back
to Originally, the special forces are sent

798
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:19.480
into an area where we might be
injecting our military, where we might be

799
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:21.880
you know, starting a war or
something like that, and they would go

800
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:23.480
in to identify who is going to
be on our side, who was not

801
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.639
going to be on our side.
I think that was really what jade Helm

802
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:31.079
was about. And so they,
you know, do certain things and then

803
01:02:31.079 --> 01:02:36.480
see how people reacting. Okay,
I know when you know, we act

804
01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.760
as if we're going to come in
do something, but we're not really We're

805
01:02:38.800 --> 01:02:44.679
just testing their reactions. Oh now
I know where their loyalties lie. And

806
01:02:44.760 --> 01:02:52.159
so again, these people have always
been about special operations, have always been

807
01:02:52.159 --> 01:02:58.039
about PSIO. Also, looking at
this, they had the so called All

808
01:02:58.159 --> 01:03:05.599
Volunteer League of Censorship had grown to
about fourteen hundred members in seventy six countries

809
01:03:06.119 --> 01:03:13.599
and they were vetted, vetted and
spanned forty five different sectors, but fourteen

810
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:19.239
hundred members in seventy six countries,
and they helped a lawfully take down twenty

811
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.719
eight hundred cyber criminal assets on the
internet. They said, well, yeah,

812
01:03:23.119 --> 01:03:29.440
sure, how do they define criminal? Imagine they defined me as criminal.

813
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:37.000
But look, this is the Stazi
approach. We are so they're volunteers,

814
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:42.599
so what if they are The people
in East Germany were volunteers who worked

815
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:45.519
for the Stazi. I told the
story before the woman who was an American

816
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:53.159
issue went to She went to East
Germany because she loved Communism. She really

817
01:03:53.159 --> 01:03:58.360
loved it. She was that stupid. And the people who lived under Communism,

818
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:00.000
the East German secret police, they
couldn't leave her motives. It's like,

819
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:05.280
there's no way she's here because she
likes communism. Why would anybody leave

820
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:09.320
American move here? We got nothing
here, right, So they are very

821
01:04:09.360 --> 01:04:13.159
suspicious effort. She meets a guy
in East Germany, she marries him.

822
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:15.440
Again, they don't trust her,
and she has all these friends that were

823
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.639
so nice to her and everything.
She found out years later when they released

824
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:24.199
the papers from the Stazzi, that
almost all of her friends were informants to

825
01:04:24.239 --> 01:04:29.440
the Stazi on her. That's what
these people are. These are traders to

826
01:04:29.480 --> 01:04:31.599
the United States. All of these
people. I don't care if they've got

827
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:33.920
a title, I don't care if
they got a uniform. I don't care

828
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:39.079
how long they worked as a veteran
in the military. You are a trader.

829
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:42.639
If you do this, you have
broken your oath to the Constitution.

830
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:49.760
You betrayed your own people to set
up a globalist government. They stressed that

831
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:55.599
there were simply volunteers that were motivated
by altruism, and they did it at

832
01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:01.480
places like the Aspen Institute. Interviewed
a guy who is lone Conservative and Aspen

833
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:06.920
who was reporting about the Aspen Isitute
and other things like that. Terp again,

834
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:12.119
the woman who was one of the
founders and leaders of this I guess

835
01:05:12.159 --> 01:05:15.840
we could call it the say the
USA has now come the United Stazi of

836
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:20.480
America. These people united through this
league, united through the intelligence community,

837
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:28.679
Terp said. In a twenty nineteen
podcast, she said, cognitive security is

838
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:32.079
the thing that you want to have, you want to protect that cognitive layer.

839
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:38.079
It's basically, it's all pollution.
It's about pollution, misinformation, disinformation.

840
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:42.840
It's all a form of pollution across
the Internet. See, she's really

841
01:05:42.920 --> 01:05:47.920
just an Internet environmentalist. Let's get
out all this stuff that I don't like.

842
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.920
It's just just purging out of there. No, it's not about that

843
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:56.719
at all. What this is about
is the government lying to people and then

844
01:05:56.760 --> 01:06:00.000
shutting down anybody who questions their lines. It's just that simple. We're all

845
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:03.239
conspiracy theorists, we're all anti vaccine
and all the rest of this stuff.

846
01:06:03.239 --> 01:06:05.960
And it's like you, you know, you're right about that. I don't

847
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.920
care that you use it as a
pejoraty of term. I'll accept that label.

848
01:06:10.920 --> 01:06:14.039
Brewer. Getting back to Brewer,
who worked for Special Forces. A

849
01:06:14.119 --> 01:06:17.079
Navy commander, he admitted in a
podcast that his aim was to bring military

850
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:23.079
tactics to use on social media platforms
to shut down speech that he didn't like,

851
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.880
speech that the government didn't like.
He said, I wear two hats,

852
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:30.639
he says, I'm military director of
the Donovan Group. And remember the

853
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:34.920
Donovan Group as part of US Special
Operations Command. So I'm military director of

854
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:43.559
the Donovan Group and one of two
innovation officers at soft Works, which is

855
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.119
also involved in all that. And
he says, but then I'm the other

856
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:56.519
hat that I've got. I'm completely
unclassified five oh one C three nonprofit that

857
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:03.559
is funded by US Special Operations Command. So how is that private? Again?

858
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:10.960
It's no different from Election Guard,
that is an organization under Microsoft but

859
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:16.239
funded with a ten million dollar grant
from DARPA. Is a DARPA thing,

860
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:19.159
right, Election Guard is a DARPA
thing. I don't care about it being

861
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:24.360
under typically under Microsoft or whatever.
It's being funded by DARPA. It's a

862
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:30.599
darp operation. This is a Special
Forces operation. They're the ones paying for

863
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:32.559
it. They own it, they're
directing it. They've got a guy who

864
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:38.199
has all these other responsibilities and he's
running this thing. Come on, how

865
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:41.239
stupid do they think we are?
Now? He went on to describe how

866
01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.360
they thought that they were getting around
the First Amendment. He said, We've

867
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.000
got to have non traditional partners in
one room, he said, and maybe

868
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:53.920
somebody from one of the social media
companies, maybe a few special Forces operators,

869
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:59.159
maybe some folks from the Department of
Homeland Security to talk in a non

870
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:02.639
attribution an open environment, in an
unclassified way, so that we can collaborate

871
01:08:02.679 --> 01:08:06.480
better, more freely, really start
to change the way that we address some

872
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:14.960
of these issues and control people.
They advocated for police for military, for

873
01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:20.119
intelligence involvement and censorship, and they
advocated for it across all five ey nations,

874
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:25.920
the US, UK, Canada,
Australia, New Zealand, and they

875
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.000
even suggested that they are to bring
Interpol in with them. This is a

876
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:35.159
global censorship operation, to bring in
a global governance so they said, we

877
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:40.079
need to prebunk things again, anticipatory
intelligence. We've got to stop stuff from

878
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:44.199
going. That's what the CCPA is
about, coalition for content, providence and

879
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:47.319
authentication to stop you to pre bunke
it. They're going to identify the same

880
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:53.159
thing that NewsGuard does. NewsGuard says, oh, okay, this guy oppose

881
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:58.760
our narrative. We're going to block
everything that comes from this guy. And

882
01:08:58.840 --> 01:09:04.720
so that's what this is about,
pre bunking, preemptively inoculating a vulnerable population

883
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:13.159
against messaging. And so in all
of this, Brewer says, we have

884
01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:18.720
a public private model of censorship laundering. What DHS and others are going to

885
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:25.640
embrace. He said. He spoke
freely and openly on podcasts, and what

886
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:29.199
he said about it was he said, it's comparable to what's being implemented by

887
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.840
the Chinese government in terms of the
Great Firewall of China, which was the

888
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:38.000
famous you know, long ago they
were the only ones doing it, but

889
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:41.319
you know they worked it out there. Now they want to do that everywhere.

890
01:09:41.319 --> 01:09:43.720
As I said you, twenty twenty
was the year the world became China,

891
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.560
and so the Great Firewall of China
they could block information coming into their

892
01:09:47.560 --> 01:09:54.920
country. But here's what Brewer.
Brewer and Terp the founders of this CTIL,

893
01:09:55.960 --> 01:10:00.039
the Censorship League, what he said
was, he said, want to

894
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:04.199
have in mind as comparable to what's
been implemented by the Chinese government, only

895
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:09.960
we will make it more palatable for
Americans. He says, if you talk

896
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:15.920
to the average Chinese citizen, they
absolutely believe the Great Firewall of China is

897
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:20.960
not there for censorship. They believe
that it's there because the Chinese Communist Party

898
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:26.279
wants to protect the citizenry, and
they absolutely believe that that is a good

899
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:30.319
thing. If the US government tried
to sell that narrative, we would absolutely

900
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:32.520
lose our minds and say no,
no, this is a violation of our

901
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:38.840
First Amendment rights. So the in
group and the outgroup messaging have to be

902
01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:42.039
different. In other words, we've
got to say something within our group,

903
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:45.760
we know that we're setting up a
great firewall, we know that we're setting

904
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.840
up censorship like the Chinese do,
but we can't tell the American people,

905
01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:54.159
and we have to come up with
a different way to couch this. We

906
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.479
can't say this is coming from the
government. We've got to pretend that it's

907
01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:00.520
coming from private institutions, even though
I'm in both the even though the government

908
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:08.439
is funding and running this through these
sellouts like Brewer, even though this sellout,

909
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:13.079
this Pablo Brewer is selling us out
and violating his oath to the Constitution.

910
01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:15.840
You got to sell it as if
it's a private organization. What a

911
01:11:15.920 --> 01:11:20.199
disgusting person. You ought to be
in jail, along with James Clapper,

912
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:25.640
along with Michael Hayden, who says
there's no difference between Hamas and a conservative

913
01:11:25.720 --> 01:11:28.720
like me. Well, I'll tell
you why. There's no difference between Michael

914
01:11:28.760 --> 01:11:32.039
Hayden and Hamas. They are one
and the same thing, one and the

915
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:35.920
same thing. There's no difference between
Michael Hayden and Shijen Ping. There's no

916
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:44.159
difference between Michael Hayden and Stalin,
any of these dictators. The only difference

917
01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:48.399
between them is that he hasn't consolidated
his power completely yet. And we better

918
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:54.520
make sure that people like Michael Hayden, Pablo Brewer, and this TOWRP Turp

919
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:58.800
is her name, not TWRP but
TWRP. That's we got to make sure

920
01:11:58.800 --> 01:12:02.960
they don't have the power. So
yeah, but look, he is really

921
01:12:03.000 --> 01:12:12.319
wrong about this. Fundamentally right.
People are being so indoctrinated and miseducated by

922
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:17.319
our government institutions that the people who
are in K through twelve, the people

923
01:12:17.359 --> 01:12:21.600
who are in universities, they really
do believe that a great firewall and censorship

924
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:25.000
is there to protect them, and
they really do want this. And this

925
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:28.119
is where we're headed, and this
is what our task is. Our task

926
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:31.800
is to uh to get these people
who are being programmed to say, well,

927
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:35.279
this is a microaggression and you've got
to have the government here to protect

928
01:12:35.319 --> 01:12:39.840
you and make you feel safe.
Just like you heard that green tyrant in

929
01:12:39.880 --> 01:12:43.079
Ireland say well, you know,
yeah, we're going to ban stuff if

930
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:45.359
you make if somebody feel uncomfortable,
Yeah, we're going to ban it.

931
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:49.359
You see, she's selling the same
thing that he's selling, and the same

932
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:54.560
thing that China has sold. And
I think he's lying about that, but

933
01:12:54.600 --> 01:13:00.079
I think that he will get people
in the US to embrace their chain I

934
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:06.479
will engage in this Stockholm totalitarianism.
And that's the unfortunate thing. And that's

935
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:12.000
why at the very center of this
really are these schools. They're the ones

936
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:17.119
that are preparing everybody for this slavery
in the coming generations. The ethos was

937
01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.840
that we would get away with it
as legal and there were no First Amendment

938
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:27.680
concerns because we have a public private
partnership. That's the word we use to

939
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:32.840
describe it to disguise those concerns.
Private people quote unquote private people can do

940
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:38.319
things public servants can't do, and
public servants can provide the leadership, the

941
01:13:38.359 --> 01:13:43.079
coordination, and of course the money. And you notice this is the same

942
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:46.720
thing that was being parroted at that
same time by the Heritage Foundation, by

943
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:50.159
Cato, by Reason, by John
Stossel, all the rest of these people

944
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:57.720
embracing their slavery, selling this idea
of slavery to you because you know,

945
01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:02.840
again, corporations can do no wrong
right corporations, As I said before.

946
01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:05.800
The way we get around this we
have to have the understanding that corporations not

947
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:15.319
people. God creates people withinnalienable rights. Governments are there to protect those inalienable

948
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:18.479
rights. Corporations are not people.
They're created. They're creatures of government.

949
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:28.600
They have been given privileges, and
we need to understand above all, we

950
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:32.359
need to start looking at corporations as
not somebody. You know, libertarian view

951
01:14:32.359 --> 01:14:35.279
of corporation has always been. Well, like you know, they have to

952
01:14:35.359 --> 01:14:38.800
eat. Greed is good. Why
is greed good? They say, well,

953
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:41.920
greed is good because these people are
going to operate from a position of

954
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:46.600
greed, but they're going to operate
in terms of in their own self interest,

955
01:14:46.800 --> 01:14:50.039
in their own greed. They have
to provide goods and services that people

956
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.560
want. They have to compete.
They have to provide better services, better

957
01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:58.520
products that are better priced than their
competitors do. So even though they're greedy,

958
01:14:58.560 --> 01:15:00.840
even though the greed is motivating them, that's a good thing. You

959
01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:03.239
know. They want to have money, they want to succeed, so they're

960
01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:08.560
going to do this stuff that's incredibly
naive because we don't have a free market

961
01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:15.520
anymore. We have all these corporations
only want to please the government because they

962
01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:19.520
want to be part of the stakeholder
club. They want to have a franchise.

963
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:23.479
They know that anybody who's not in
that stakeholder club is going to be

964
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:27.399
shut down. The mom and pops
are going to be non essential, just

965
01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:30.399
like Trump told them in twenty twenty, shutting them down. Service businesses.

966
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.920
No, we're not going to have
you. And so these big corporations want

967
01:15:33.960 --> 01:15:38.079
to please the government. They don't. Nascar doesn't care about their people,

968
01:15:38.800 --> 01:15:43.159
Budweiser doesn't care about their customers.
They care about play. They got one

969
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:47.479
customer and that's the government. And
that's why this whole thing about corporations can

970
01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:51.479
do You know the well corporations are
competing against each other. And where have

971
01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:55.760
you been for the last several decades. You haven't seen what is happening.

972
01:15:55.800 --> 01:16:00.760
You still don't see what is happening
with these corporations pushing this stuff down the

973
01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:04.000
throat of their customers and offending them
to the point of boycott. And they

974
01:16:04.039 --> 01:16:09.199
can still continue to do it.
Why because the government is funding money to

975
01:16:09.239 --> 01:16:14.079
them, because they can raise money
on Wall Street and they don't need customers

976
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.159
and if they can make the government
happy. So you need to understand,

977
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.319
and we should start viewing all corporations
as compromised. We should view all corporations

978
01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:28.199
as complicit. We should view all
corporations as bribeable and controllable, because they

979
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.479
are. And we've seen this,
there's absolutely no question about it. It

980
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.960
doesn't matter if it's NASCAR or Coca
Cola, Butdweiser, any of these companies,

981
01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:43.079
they're all bribed and controlled and they're
complicit in selling this agenda. They're

982
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.199
not selling the rope that's going to
be used to hang them. They're selling

983
01:16:45.239 --> 01:16:50.119
the rope it's going to be used
to hang you. They're ingratiating themselves into

984
01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:54.880
a position with this satalitarian government that's
going to serve them in the long run,

985
01:16:54.960 --> 01:16:57.239
and that's why they're throwing this stuff
out. One last thing I'll say

986
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:01.880
before I take a break. Paul
as I mentioned earlier, he ores what

987
01:17:01.920 --> 01:17:06.800
he calls the separation of tech and
state. He says some libertarians dismiss concerns

988
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:13.720
over social media company suppression of news
and opinions that contradict select agendas by pointing

989
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:15.680
out that these platforms are private companies
and not part of the government. And

990
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.479
I'm glad that Ron paul is saying
this, because he's got clout with people

991
01:17:19.560 --> 01:17:24.680
like John Stoscil and others. It
may be seen whether they will turn on

992
01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:27.199
him for saying this or not.
But what Ron Paula is saying here is

993
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:30.760
absolutely true. He says. There's
two problems with this argument. He says,

994
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.239
first of all, there's nothing unlibertarian
about criticizing private businesses or using peaceful

995
01:17:35.239 --> 01:17:41.560
and voluntary means such as Boycott's to
persuade businesses to change their practices. Well,

996
01:17:41.560 --> 01:17:44.399
that's one part of it. What
do you do when they control everything,

997
01:17:44.520 --> 01:17:47.479
they monopolize it, or they've got
a little oligarchy of everything and they

998
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:54.920
use it to control everybody, you
know, like Seamus Breemer, I think

999
01:17:55.479 --> 01:18:00.439
his name the Control of Arks that
I am reading last week. Second thing

1000
01:18:00.479 --> 01:18:03.560
he says is this idea that they're
private companies. This argument does not hold

1001
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:10.520
water. The tech companies censorship has
often been done at the request of government

1002
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:15.199
officials, and I would say bequest
of the government officials. The extent of

1003
01:18:15.199 --> 01:18:19.319
government involvement with online censorship has been
revealed in emails between government and employees of

1004
01:18:19.399 --> 01:18:24.920
various tech companies, and in these
emails, the government officials addressed employees of

1005
01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:30.560
these private companies as though these employees
were the government officials subordinates. We already

1006
01:18:30.640 --> 01:18:32.840
knew that it was easy to discern, and when we look at these latest

1007
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:40.880
files, these CTIL files, it's
been clear that some people need to be

1008
01:18:41.039 --> 01:18:45.319
called to account for violating their oath
to the Constitution. People like Pablo Brewer

1009
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:50.159
and this terp need to be kicked
out of their government positions. They need

1010
01:18:50.199 --> 01:18:56.640
to have their their tensions taken away, and they need to be jailed quite

1011
01:18:56.680 --> 01:19:00.560
frankly, because they have been traders
to the American people. They have violated

1012
01:19:00.600 --> 01:19:06.680
their oath to the American people.
They are quizzlings of the globalist scheme selling

1013
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:13.399
what all these globists want. And
that's the difference with this stuff. Yeah,

1014
01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:16.119
we should not allow these corporations to
censor people because it is a digital

1015
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:20.279
public square. And that's what Ron
Paul does not say. Again, going

1016
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:25.680
back to Marshasses Alabama, but we
shall also have some punishment for the people

1017
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:29.000
who betrayed us, But I don't
think that's going to happen. Look at

1018
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:33.399
twenty twenty. These people literally kill
people with the Trump shots. They literally

1019
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:39.279
kill people with the protocol and the
hospitals, and they're richly paid by Trump

1020
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:42.880
to do both of those things,
and nobody's holding them to account. And

1021
01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:45.520
the Conservatives, even though they look
at this stuff and they understand what's going

1022
01:19:45.560 --> 01:19:49.640
they will not hold Trump accountable.
Nobody is going to be held accountable to

1023
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:56.159
this stuff. Government officials using their
authority to silence American citizens as a blatant

1024
01:19:56.239 --> 01:20:00.119
violation of the First Amendment says Ron
Paul. Of course that is a blatant

1025
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:06.880
a violation of the Constitution and they
should be punished for that. I say,

1026
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:11.239
yeah, some conservative elected officials and
writers think the solution to the problem

1027
01:20:11.239 --> 01:20:16.680
a big tech censorship is to give
government more power over technology companies. Instead

1028
01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:20.319
of giving the government more power over
social media, defenders of free speech should

1029
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:24.600
work to separate the two. And
what he means by that is that his

1030
01:20:24.680 --> 01:20:30.319
son Rand and Jim Jordan have introduced
a bill to make it a crime for

1031
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:34.199
any federal employee or employee of a
federal contractor to use his position to communicate

1032
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:39.800
with a social media company to interfere
with any Americans exercise of First Amendment protected

1033
01:20:39.880 --> 01:20:44.239
rights. Have a question, why
is it not a crime? Since these

1034
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:50.159
people violate the Constitution, there has
to be some way that you can come

1035
01:20:50.199 --> 01:20:54.640
after them. It takes just a
little bit of creativity looking at this.

1036
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:57.720
But don't tell me that you can't
think it's something to charge these people with

1037
01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:00.399
that. You can't kick them out, take people out for not taking the

1038
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:05.359
Trump poison. You can't kick them
out for this. I'm sure you can

1039
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.880
think of something if you really try. Jim Jordan and ran Paul, but

1040
01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:15.319
I don't think they're serious about it. They want to posture for people who

1041
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:17.880
are upset about this. Well,
quite frankly, that's just not good enough.

1042
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:23.000
Same thing Conor McGregor said, you
know, I'm sorry, that's not

1043
01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:25.960
good enough. You're going to have
to do better than that. You're gonna

1044
01:21:25.960 --> 01:21:28.880
have to do more than have a
speech or hold a hearing. You better

1045
01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:35.239
put these people in jail. Anyway. Ron Paul goes on to say big

1046
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:40.640
tech censorship as a problem created by
big government. Solution lies not with giving

1047
01:21:40.720 --> 01:21:45.800
government more power, but by separating
tech and state. Well, I say

1048
01:21:45.840 --> 01:21:48.079
we give the death penalty to some
of these corporations that have done this.

1049
01:21:48.760 --> 01:21:53.680
They were given birth and created by
the government. They exist as a government

1050
01:21:53.720 --> 01:22:00.520
privilege. They have served these government
traders to subvert the Constitution. And I

1051
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:04.640
think that they ought to be dissolved. And I think these people ought to

1052
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:08.359
be fired and then to have their
pensions taken, and they ought to go

1053
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:13.720
to jail. Anything less than that
is not good enough, not good enough.

1054
01:22:13.720 --> 01:22:18.680
We'll be right back. Whether you're
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1055
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1056
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to the David Knight Show. Well,

1057
01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:46.720
I got a couple of comments here
from Guard Goldsmith and from Jason Barker.

1058
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.960
Thank you, guys, and thank
you for watching. I knew at least

1059
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:56.199
you two guys will be watching because
Karen contacted you as always. I know

1060
01:23:56.359 --> 01:24:00.039
Jason saw the tweet that I put
out earlier. Guard, thank you for

1061
01:24:00.159 --> 01:24:01.880
the tip on rock Fan. He
says that David, it's great to see

1062
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:06.720
you all back with the power,
the power of truth and research. Thank

1063
01:24:06.760 --> 01:24:10.560
you. I can rely on you
to dig into the news and teach as

1064
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:13.159
you report. Well, thank you
very much. Guard. And of course

1065
01:24:13.359 --> 01:24:15.479
Guard does the same thing. He's
been on this as well. He knows

1066
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:18.239
what this is all about. And
Jason, thank you. He says,

1067
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:20.800
I'm waiting for the little car on
your desk to burst into flames. Looks

1068
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:25.039
like an early Tesla model. Yeah, if I haven't flamed it yet,

1069
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:29.720
I don't know if it's burst into
flames. As angry as I got about

1070
01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:31.359
this, let's talk a little bit
about fake stuff again. As I said

1071
01:24:31.399 --> 01:24:33.880
before, this is really kind of
like the bump stock stuff, but it

1072
01:24:33.880 --> 01:24:38.840
gives you an insight into the character
of these people and the purposes of what

1073
01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:43.319
they want to do with this power
that they're giving themselves their power over us

1074
01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:48.600
with information, with education and these
you know, the censorship that is rolling

1075
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:55.520
out here. And I thought it
was kind of funny coming out of well,

1076
01:24:55.520 --> 01:25:00.000
this actually is been covered by Japan
today. Fake AI generated woman on

1077
01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:08.159
a tech conference agenda leads Microsoft and
Amazon executive to drop out. See,

1078
01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:13.680
they're okay with fake women as long
as their breathing, But this is completely

1079
01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:17.840
This is a fake woman who is
just completely artificial intelligence generated AI generated,

1080
01:25:18.319 --> 01:25:20.680
And so that kind of a fake
woman is just a step too far from

1081
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.520
them. Just yet, as a
matter of fact, you know, they

1082
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:31.239
worship the fake women who are really
men, but tach. Executives at Microsoft

1083
01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:35.319
and Amazon have dropped out of an
upcoming software conference after at least one of

1084
01:25:35.359 --> 01:25:40.239
the women on the agenda turned out
to be fake. This conference is called

1085
01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:44.920
Devternity, and the organizer admitted on
social media that one of the featured speakers

1086
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:51.199
was an auto generated woman as opposed
to bruce gender or people like that.

1087
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:56.279
I guess they're not auto generated.
I guess they have to be generated by

1088
01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:00.840
some other surgeon or something, but
anyway, he had a fake title.

1089
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:05.079
He was responding to allegations about a
number of suspicious profiles on his conference websites

1090
01:26:05.119 --> 01:26:11.119
that appeared to be generated by AI. So it's not just one woman that's

1091
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:15.800
AI generated, but a bunch of
people there were going to be presenters at

1092
01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:18.920
his conference or something. He denied
that the fake profile was intended to mask

1093
01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:24.680
the quote worse than expected level of
diversity of speakers. You see, this

1094
01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.640
is what Microsoft is really upset about. The people that were going to go

1095
01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:33.520
are really upset about this because you
know, we just don't have enough diversity,

1096
01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:40.319
and he's faking this stuff to get
diversity. And that's how badly he

1097
01:26:40.399 --> 01:26:45.239
needed to have diversity. He knew
that it was so important to the people

1098
01:26:45.279 --> 01:26:49.640
at Amazon and Microsoft and these other
tech companies that he faked it. I

1099
01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:53.640
found out that I was the only
woman on the agenda, and some of

1100
01:26:53.680 --> 01:27:00.199
the others advertised may not be real, said Amazon Web Services executive and Microsoft

1101
01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:04.800
executive set an X that he only
speaks at conferences with an inclusive lineup,

1102
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:11.000
and he said I was duped by
the false speakers that he had here.

1103
01:27:12.119 --> 01:27:15.399
If only they could get some real
training women to show up. You know,

1104
01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:21.079
somebody like this guy who is in
Nashville, not Nashville, Tennessee,

1105
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:27.840
but Nashville, Illinois, who is
a self identified pedophile and has been for

1106
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:33.359
five years making threats against Christians and
Blacks and everybody that he hates. He's

1107
01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:38.640
filled with hate, filled with hate, and yet he's not guilty of hate

1108
01:27:38.680 --> 01:27:42.640
speech. And the FBI did nothing
about this until just now. And of

1109
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:46.199
course he went on a tirade after
the Nashville shooting. By that training,

1110
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:50.840
we still can't see the trnifesto,
but we see this guy his trail,

1111
01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:56.159
and people were pointing it out to
the FBI and other people who failed to

1112
01:27:56.279 --> 01:28:04.359
act on it for five years.
And so a trends identified Illinois man from

1113
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:14.199
Nashville, Illinois, self described pedophile, is facing charges for making social media

1114
01:28:14.600 --> 01:28:20.479
threats to sexually assault Christian girls,
young girls, and to commit copycat attacks

1115
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:26.199
somewhere to the attack at a Christian
school in Tennessee earlier this year. See

1116
01:28:26.439 --> 01:28:30.800
is this kind of trans insanity that
is being hidden and covered up by the

1117
01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:35.960
government. His name is Jason Lee
Willie of Nashville, Illinois. Charged November

1118
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:45.760
seventh in US District Court in Illinois
fourteen felony accounts of interstate communication of a

1119
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:47.680
threat to injure. So you see
this is coming from the Feds. It's

1120
01:28:47.720 --> 01:28:54.159
in a US district court, and
it's about interstate communication. But he was

1121
01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:58.840
able to do this for five years, and he was able to do it.

1122
01:28:58.880 --> 01:29:02.119
Was it eight or nine months ago? Eight months ago in March when

1123
01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:09.760
you had the Nashville killer. The
threats dated between March and August include repeated

1124
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:14.600
references to Christians, black Americans,
the publican party, and everybody that he

1125
01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:18.840
hates. And that's what I said
about this training killer in Nashville. She

1126
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:25.119
had been trained to hate herself being
white, trained to hate her sex,

1127
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.199
being female, and then hating everybody
else. And that's exactly what's going on

1128
01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:34.119
with this guy as well. Among
the alleged threats sided in the indictment are

1129
01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:36.880
threats to quote bomb churches. He
said, we're gonna bomb them. We're

1130
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:40.720
gonna bomb them. We're going to
bomb the churches. We're gonna bomb them.

1131
01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:44.319
You know, we're going to kill
you. And then he did videos

1132
01:29:44.359 --> 01:29:48.840
about this. In a video,
he made reference to quote Christian trash unquote,

1133
01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:53.760
he said they're transphobic, they're homophobic. They're no different from the explitive

1134
01:29:54.479 --> 01:29:59.680
white supremacists. He also frequently used
racial epithets and threatened to target anyone with

1135
01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:03.119
a around your neck. He said
he had other video threats. He said,

1136
01:30:03.159 --> 01:30:06.039
we're coming for your children. We're
not going to hurt you. We're

1137
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:09.560
not going to hurt you. You
have to understand I know how to get

1138
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:14.199
to you. And that's by and
he pounds his fist and his palm twice

1139
01:30:14.520 --> 01:30:18.760
for emphasis. That's by effing your
children, By hurting your children, And

1140
01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:24.680
that's exactly what we're gonna do.
I guarantee I'll be in the bathroom raping

1141
01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:28.880
your Christian daughters. And there ain't
nothing you can effing do about it.

1142
01:30:28.960 --> 01:30:31.760
You hear me, he said,
So, I guess he can get in

1143
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:36.399
the bathrooms because of the Biden and
Obama rules. In an August video,

1144
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:43.039
he appeared to identify himself as a
pedophile when he graphically described sexual abuse towards

1145
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:45.880
little girls. He said, you
guys can't do nothing about it. I

1146
01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:51.039
don't care. I'm openly a pedo. I'm openly a pedophile. So he

1147
01:30:51.119 --> 01:30:55.159
said he's tired of being picked on. We're going to go to the schools.

1148
01:30:55.159 --> 01:30:58.880
We're going to kill their effing children
out here, and that's the end

1149
01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:01.920
of it. We're at. Is
this the kind of talk that's in this

1150
01:31:02.039 --> 01:31:09.479
trenifesto that the Metropolitan Police in Nashville
and especially THEBI. The FBI were the

1151
01:31:09.560 --> 01:31:12.680
ones that said, don't with the
Metropolitan Police are going to release it.

1152
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:15.520
The FBI told him, don't do
it. So is this kind of language

1153
01:31:16.119 --> 01:31:20.239
that was there, this kind of
threats. It appears to be that from

1154
01:31:20.279 --> 01:31:25.159
the three pages that we saw,
they're very interested in trying to keep this

1155
01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:28.560
secret and trying to cover up this
kind of hate that they have inculcated in

1156
01:31:28.600 --> 01:31:34.000
people. The authorities declined to provide
even a booking photo of this guy,

1157
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:39.840
but some other people had a picture
of it that they were able to get.

1158
01:31:39.960 --> 01:31:41.840
But they don't even want to show
the picture of this guy, just

1159
01:31:41.880 --> 01:31:45.520
like they don't want to show the
manifesto of that killer in Nashville. Willie's

1160
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:50.319
online communications generated complaints to the FBI
on at least four occasions from twenty eighteen

1161
01:31:50.560 --> 01:31:56.279
on to twenty twenty two, and
they needed a whole bunch of them when

1162
01:31:56.319 --> 01:32:00.600
this killing happened in Nashville, Tennessee
in March and continued on through August.

1163
01:32:01.319 --> 01:32:06.159
The FBI did nothing about this for
five years. But boy, they'll show

1164
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:13.479
up to your doorstep, won't they
if they can connect you to January sixth

1165
01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:17.199
somehow. On March twenty eighth,
just one day after the shooting in Nashville,

1166
01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:23.039
the FBI received a report of an
alleged Facebook post where Willie said quote,

1167
01:32:23.279 --> 01:32:28.199
there will be many more and larger
attacks on Christians by transgender people and

1168
01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:33.680
that Christians would come to know fear
like never before. This is yeah,

1169
01:32:33.760 --> 01:32:36.840
this is a protected person. You
see. This is the kind of person

1170
01:32:36.840 --> 01:32:42.399
you're not allowed to criticize in Ireland
or they'll throw you in jail. And

1171
01:32:42.439 --> 01:32:45.439
then when we look at the other
fake stuff that is coming out, we

1172
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:56.560
have the we have the guy who
was the founder of Chipolti who was kicked

1173
01:32:56.560 --> 01:33:03.520
out of the company when they had
problems with them E Coli and neurovirus poisoning,

1174
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:06.079
and so you know, he's been
kind of you know, sitting on

1175
01:33:06.119 --> 01:33:13.199
the sidelines and reading books by Bill
Gates, and now he is coming back

1176
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:18.560
with a food chain that is going
to be meatless and have robots that are

1177
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:23.079
going to be cooking the food.
But he's going to watch a chain of

1178
01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:28.760
foods, a chain of restaurants run
by robots. Yeah, maybe it'll be

1179
01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:33.479
something like this. You know,
it's a very big it's a very big,

1180
01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:39.920
fluffy fun where's the beef? Hamburger
places give you a lot less beef

1181
01:33:39.960 --> 01:33:43.800
and a lot of bun where's the
bee? Bawdy's? We say a hamburger?

1182
01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:45.960
We modest you remember that commercial.
That's a great commercial. I imagine

1183
01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:48.720
people will do something like that.
This is going to be an easy target

1184
01:33:48.720 --> 01:33:51.920
for any of his competitors. Quite
frankly, where's the beef? Any beef

1185
01:33:51.920 --> 01:33:57.000
here? Where are the people?
There's no people here either? Who needs

1186
01:33:57.039 --> 01:34:00.199
people? Who's going to buy his
food? You know? When these geniuses

1187
01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:05.039
have replaced all their employees. So
he said, yeah, I spent a

1188
01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:08.159
lot of time, you know,
while I was kind of sitting on the

1189
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:11.279
shelf after I got kicked out of
my company because we couldn't make food wholesomely.

1190
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.079
Well, then I was reading this
stuff from Bill Gates, How to

1191
01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:17.760
Avoid a Climate Disaster by Bill Gates, And so he designed this restaurant as

1192
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:23.760
a new kind of restaurant that would
need fewer resources to run. Yeah,

1193
01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:27.039
we can't use any energy and can't
use any resources, and we can't use

1194
01:34:27.079 --> 01:34:29.199
any meat. So what am I
gonna do for a restaurant? Oh,

1195
01:34:29.279 --> 01:34:33.279
I'll open fifteen locations throughout New York
City, and I will serve fake chicken

1196
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:38.840
sandwiches along with cucumbers and wild rice. Ah. They're going to be beating

1197
01:34:38.880 --> 01:34:43.640
a path to this guy's door.
It's going to be so good to see

1198
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:48.319
this guy squander the money that he's
got. Left catered and operated by his

1199
01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:53.840
skeleton crew with a lot of robots
to do the job. Wall Street Journal

1200
01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:57.600
said that customer orders would be beamed
to the kitchen. Isn't that great?

1201
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:01.239
You know? This is? They
don't just the beam it to beat me

1202
01:35:01.319 --> 01:35:04.600
up, Scottie. It's going to
be beamed to the kitchen, where a

1203
01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:13.079
robotic arm will put food laden pans
into the oven. A programmed toaster flips

1204
01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:15.840
a bun into the oven for warming, and while conveyor belts move dishes throughout

1205
01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:20.520
the kitchen. Workers finish off the
dishes, package the food, and slot

1206
01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:26.359
it into cubbies for pickup. Wow. This sounds like a great place to

1207
01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:30.239
eat, isn't it. El's is
the guy's name. He assembled a small

1208
01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:33.680
team to figure out how to use
a commissary kitchen and robotics to squeeze into

1209
01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:41.000
spaces of only a thousand square feet
or smaller and to turn out to go

1210
01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.079
orders. Maybe he doesn't realize that, you know, people aren't coming back

1211
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:47.840
to New York to work. That's
what Gerald Slenty has been talking about.

1212
01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:55.520
The commercial real estate collapse's happening here. I guess people are so many companies

1213
01:35:55.520 --> 01:35:57.680
have been put out of business of
the lockdown and all the rest of the

1214
01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:00.239
stuff. Who's going to buy his
food? I don't know. And why

1215
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.720
would you do it in an area
that people are are leaving now. Thomas

1216
01:36:03.720 --> 01:36:08.640
Massy in reaction to this, you
know, he's put out the Prime Act,

1217
01:36:09.279 --> 01:36:15.720
and we've talked about this before to
allow American farmers to more easily sell

1218
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:19.439
healthy food, which the USDA is
adamantly opposed to. That. Oh,

1219
01:36:19.439 --> 01:36:23.720
you can grass feed your beef,
but you're going to have to finish them

1220
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:28.560
off at the feed lot and let
us do the centralized control with meat processing.

1221
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:30.239
Can't do it on your farm.
If you do, we're going to

1222
01:36:30.319 --> 01:36:34.079
raide you with a spat as they'd
done to several Amish farmers. Now Thomas

1223
01:36:34.119 --> 01:36:39.319
Massey had this to say in a
series of tweets. He said, pastures

1224
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:45.600
can convert sunlight, animal waste,
and CO two into grass, which is

1225
01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:55.520
fuel for self propelled protein generating machinery. We call them cattle, self propelled

1226
01:36:55.640 --> 01:37:00.720
protein generating machinery, and it's self
replicating as well. Self propelled and self

1227
01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:06.880
replicating. The protein this system generates
is eminently digestible by humans with no post

1228
01:37:08.000 --> 01:37:13.960
processing other than cutting and optional cooking. You can eat it rare. You

1229
01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:18.000
know, Grass and cattle, says
Thomas Massey, can regenerate and reinforce each

1230
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:26.680
other indefinitely in harmony with nature,
with almost no human input, as evidenced

1231
01:37:27.159 --> 01:37:30.880
by existence of this cycle with tens
of millions of bison on the planes of

1232
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:36.359
North America before our intervention. Be
wary of those and here's the key thing.

1233
01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:43.359
Be wary of those who tell you
this natural arrangement is inferior to a

1234
01:37:43.439 --> 01:37:48.800
system that uses seed planters, sprayers, harvesting combines, diesel, pesticides,

1235
01:37:49.079 --> 01:37:58.640
inorganic fertilizers, GMO crops, subsidies, sterile fields as centralized multinational factories to

1236
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:05.000
produce fake meat. Disclosure He says, although grain finished beef operations do rely

1237
01:38:05.119 --> 01:38:11.960
on grass fed cattle as inputs,
they are distinct from grass finished beef operations

1238
01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:15.279
and that they do require significant use
of fertilizer, fuel, infrastructure, and

1239
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:21.920
machinery to augment production of real beef. Instead of resigning ourselves to eat fake

1240
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:28.359
meat made in foreign factories, we
should re examine US government actions that have

1241
01:38:28.399 --> 01:38:34.960
made smaller, otherwise sustainable farms unprofitable. He says, past the Primact to

1242
01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:43.239
allow American farmers to more easily sell
healthy food locally. He's good, He's

1243
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:45.640
really good. We're lucky to have
a man like him. It's too bad

1244
01:38:45.680 --> 01:38:48.479
that he's only one out of about
five hundred thirty five what's whatever the number

1245
01:38:48.560 --> 01:38:55.399
is. And then you have this
fake news. Look at how this company

1246
01:38:55.640 --> 01:39:00.600
is. This a sports blog is
called dead Spin, and I think they

1247
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:04.000
may be dead at this point because
of the way they spun the news.

1248
01:39:04.479 --> 01:39:10.600
It's truly reprehensible. What this guy
did a total bullface lie, I should

1249
01:39:10.600 --> 01:39:14.840
say black face lie. And what
he did was he put this up,

1250
01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:18.520
put up this picture so that kid
down there wearing an Indian headdress. He's

1251
01:39:18.560 --> 01:39:23.520
at a Kansas City Chiefs game,
and he's got one half of his face

1252
01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:27.119
painted black and the other half of
his face painted red because that's the team

1253
01:39:27.199 --> 01:39:30.199
colors, red and black. You
can see it on the jersey there right,

1254
01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:33.760
red jersey with a black collar.
Red and black is their color.

1255
01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:39.560
Now, he didn't he chose not
to show the kid full face, so

1256
01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.920
you can see that clearly. What
he did was he painted his face in

1257
01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:47.439
the colors of the team. And
the sports writer and i'll put writer and

1258
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:55.479
air quotes, the sports writer who
did this character assassination is pushing this DEI

1259
01:39:56.359 --> 01:40:02.840
racism agenda to the hilt. He's
a black reporter and he's talking about blackface.

1260
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:05.880
But let me just say this.
You know when you do something like

1261
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:11.840
this or you you know, blackface, anytime anybody's got something black on their

1262
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.560
face. Are freaking out about this, which is absolutely insane. You know,

1263
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:19.159
the blackface minstrels, Yes, they
were, they were mocking, and

1264
01:40:19.800 --> 01:40:23.600
I can understand that to some degree. But again, I don't think that

1265
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:26.800
any speech, even if you're offended
by it, I don't think that you

1266
01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:30.159
have the right to shut it down. I'll just say it right there.

1267
01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:33.079
I don't think they have the right
to shut down even the most mocking of

1268
01:40:33.159 --> 01:40:38.960
the black face minstrel shows. But
you know, to freak out over somebody,

1269
01:40:39.079 --> 01:40:43.199
even a kit who's got some black
paint on his face. These people

1270
01:40:43.239 --> 01:40:44.960
need to get a life, they
need to grow up, They need to

1271
01:40:44.960 --> 01:40:49.199
not be taken seriously. And of
course he doubled down on this when people

1272
01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:53.439
said, once you show the full
picture of both sides of his face.

1273
01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:57.960
And so the guy who did this
is a senior writer for dead Spin,

1274
01:40:59.439 --> 01:41:01.760
so appropriate name for that. I
hope it does die because of the way

1275
01:41:01.760 --> 01:41:06.880
they spin the stuff. He wrote
a piece on Monday saying the NFL needs

1276
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:11.840
to speak out against a Kansas City
Chiefs fan in blackface and native headdress.

1277
01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:16.079
He accused the child of being racist
towards black and Native American people for wearing

1278
01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:20.760
the headdress and face paint during a
Sunday afternoon game in Las Vegas. The

1279
01:41:20.800 --> 01:41:28.159
young boy's headdress resembled the logo in
the nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies that

1280
01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:32.279
depicted a Native American wearing a large
headdress and carrying a hatchet. He painted

1281
01:41:32.319 --> 01:41:36.800
both sides of his face and the
team colors red and black. This writer,

1282
01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:42.119
whose name is Phillips also targeted the
Kansas City Chiefs and the NFL,

1283
01:41:42.479 --> 01:41:46.760
trying to shame them for allowing their
fans to display the so called racism and

1284
01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:51.000
hate that He said, this is
all about that kid. This is racism

1285
01:41:51.039 --> 01:41:55.800
and hate and that kid. Yeah, see the hate in his face.

1286
01:41:56.520 --> 01:41:59.920
Now, I see the hate and
the writer. I think the writers fill

1287
01:42:00.079 --> 01:42:03.159
with hate, not that kid,
since they did not change their team name,

1288
01:42:03.680 --> 01:42:09.840
since they didn't end their traditional tomahawk
chop, and they have a practice

1289
01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:14.159
where team players wear the arrowhead logo
on their helmet. Whh we imagine that?

1290
01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:18.399
And they use a large drum to
kick off their games. He said,

1291
01:42:18.439 --> 01:42:21.479
well, it isn't the league's responsibility
to stop racism and hate from being

1292
01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:26.560
taught at the home. In the
home, they are the league that has

1293
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:30.319
relentlessly participated in prejudice. If the
NFL had outlawed the chop at the chief

1294
01:42:30.479 --> 01:42:34.600
games and been more aggressive and changing
the team's name, then we wouldn't be

1295
01:42:34.640 --> 01:42:40.319
here, you know. I remember
are the Atlanta Braves. Wasn't it owned

1296
01:42:40.319 --> 01:42:44.880
by Ted Turner or something? But
I remember saying Ted Turner and Jane Fonda

1297
01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:50.199
doing the tomahawk chop at the Atlanta
Braves baseball game, and you know as

1298
01:42:50.199 --> 01:42:53.640
a cheer, yeah, oh for
them and all this kind of stuff.

1299
01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:57.720
Is she repented of that? Have
they shamed her for that? No?

1300
01:42:58.279 --> 01:43:02.520
No, it's okay. That's okay. She's made amends for that buy supporting

1301
01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:09.239
the Vietcong. There's no place for
a franchise to be called the Chiefs in

1302
01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:13.840
a league that has already eradicated the
Redskins. He also complained the team has

1303
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:15.760
not released a statement on the fans
appearance. He never once mentioned the team's

1304
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:20.039
collaboration with local Native American tribes or
the history of the team name anywhere in

1305
01:43:20.119 --> 01:43:24.920
his pace, and instead he doubled
down on He said, for the idiots

1306
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:29.399
and my mentions who are treating this
as if it was some kind of a

1307
01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:34.000
harmless act, he said, it
doesn't make any difference that the other side

1308
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:38.439
of his face was painted red.
I could make the argument that that makes

1309
01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:42.119
it even worse. Just look at
how hateful this kid is a red and

1310
01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:46.720
black face, and it is not. First of all, his red face

1311
01:43:46.840 --> 01:43:51.880
is not like the red face that
Indians would have. It is not that

1312
01:43:53.079 --> 01:43:59.479
red. But anyway, the Kansas
City Chiefs then, instead of slapping this

1313
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:03.920
guy down, just like bring back
John Wayne for just one day, and

1314
01:44:05.760 --> 01:44:11.039
instead just slapping this guy silly and
throwing him out of the window, definestrating

1315
01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:15.079
him. Instead, they bowed to
this Marxist revolutionary with his fake hate and

1316
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:16.680
as fake racism and all the rest
of this stuff. They said, Well,

1317
01:44:16.680 --> 01:44:21.560
we relied very heavily on Native American
culture in a racially insensitive fashion throughout

1318
01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:27.720
history, and we have sensed to
eliminate that. They said, back in

1319
01:44:27.760 --> 01:44:31.079
twenty twenty, the team banned headdresses
from home stadium. This kid was in

1320
01:44:31.680 --> 01:44:34.920
Vegas, right, so that's how
he got snuck in. They weren't looking

1321
01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:44.039
out for any kids wearing Indian headdresses. Can't have that in any face paint.

1322
01:44:45.239 --> 01:44:50.800
The Chiefs had also been in a
quote thorough review process of the Arrowhead

1323
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:57.079
Chop, and they planned to modify
the drum deck to accurately represent the drum's

1324
01:44:57.720 --> 01:45:02.520
spiritual significance and Native American cultures.
The team's name is a homage to former

1325
01:45:02.640 --> 01:45:10.119
Kansas City Mayor h Roe Bartell,
who earned the nickname Chief during his time

1326
01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.640
in office. In their early nineteen
sixties. People are saying, you know,

1327
01:45:13.760 --> 01:45:17.119
Chief is a term of respect of
endearment. This is a person who

1328
01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:21.359
has head of this stuff. But
I guess now, this guy who is

1329
01:45:21.399 --> 01:45:28.600
so upset about it, he's more
like Perry White. Don't call me chief,

1330
01:45:28.720 --> 01:45:31.119
you know, say that to Jimmy
Wilson. Don't call me chief.

1331
01:45:31.399 --> 01:45:36.039
So he doesn't want anybody called chief. Phillips has accused white sports fans of

1332
01:45:36.119 --> 01:45:44.560
racism on many occasions, and he's
so obsessed with skin color. And this

1333
01:45:44.600 --> 01:45:46.119
guy needs to get a life,
and he needs to be fired if they

1334
01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:51.159
want to keep this this sports thing. The day following the mass shooting in

1335
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:56.119
Buffalo, New York, he accused
white people of white supremacy for being entertained

1336
01:45:56.119 --> 01:46:00.920
by black athletes. During Game number
seven, he said the number of white

1337
01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:05.239
people in Flint, Michigan is concerning. He said, well, you know,

1338
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:09.720
let's play this DEI game to the
full extent. Let's play it all

1339
01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:12.640
the way out. You know,
when we talk about NBA, let's start

1340
01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:16.800
choosing the team players on the basis
of skin color and diversity. Right,

1341
01:46:17.279 --> 01:46:21.159
there's not enough equity. We got
too many tall black guys playing in the

1342
01:46:21.199 --> 01:46:26.680
basketball league and we don't really care
about merit. Right, So instead of

1343
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:30.359
tall black guys. Once't you get
short, fat white women to play basketball.

1344
01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:32.399
As a matter of fact, you
know, we need to include the

1345
01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:35.720
disabled as well. It's not enough
to have them short. Let's get people

1346
01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:39.640
who are in wheelchairs and we can
you know, do that for the NBA.

1347
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:44.640
And let's go complete DEI And then
what's going to happen to the sport

1348
01:46:44.720 --> 01:46:49.760
that this racist sports writer makes his
living off of. Do people want to

1349
01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:53.439
see that? You know, when
it comes to sports, people want to

1350
01:46:53.439 --> 01:46:56.600
talk about merit, and we have
a guess that's going to be coming up.

1351
01:46:56.680 --> 01:47:05.119
He talks about he set up an
organization to help people to get companies

1352
01:47:05.159 --> 01:47:12.840
and other things funded around the outside
of this cancel culture and to do things

1353
01:47:12.880 --> 01:47:16.760
based on Christian principles because it has
gotten so bad that there's a lot of

1354
01:47:16.760 --> 01:47:19.920
people, he said, that want
to help to create things. A lot

1355
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:23.840
of people have ideas, but they
can't get the stuff done because nobody wants

1356
01:47:23.880 --> 01:47:27.720
to compete on merit anymore. It's
all going to be about DEI and this

1357
01:47:27.880 --> 01:47:32.520
Marxism and everything is politicized, and
so it's giving rise to organizations like this

1358
01:47:32.640 --> 01:47:35.600
trying to set up a parallel economy. So we'll be having him in just

1359
01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:42.079
about fifteen minutes. Jason Barker says, I lived in Nashville, Illinois.

1360
01:47:42.479 --> 01:47:45.520
I've never heard of Nashville, Illinois. That is a small town with heavy

1361
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:49.560
conservative roots. It's scary that places
like that are now breeding people like this

1362
01:47:50.119 --> 01:47:57.600
tranny killer. Yeah it is.
But you know, by nationalizing the educational

1363
01:47:57.600 --> 01:48:00.600
curriculum with a Department of Education,
that's how they've been able to do this

1364
01:48:00.680 --> 01:48:03.199
stuff. That and along with the
media and everything else that's out there now.

1365
01:48:03.239 --> 01:48:06.760
I've talked in the past about the
school that I went to, Tramline

1366
01:48:06.800 --> 01:48:12.079
High School in Tampa, and I've
talked about how we had the chief was

1367
01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:15.199
our mascot, and I described it, so I thought I would basically,

1368
01:48:15.239 --> 01:48:17.920
I thought I would show you this. You know, they set the Kansas

1369
01:48:17.920 --> 01:48:21.399
City chiefs up in the nineteen sixties. Well, the high school that I

1370
01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:28.359
went to was created in nineteen fifty
six, and they just had a big

1371
01:48:28.399 --> 01:48:32.680
back and forth about and this was
well it was actually last summer of twenty

1372
01:48:32.720 --> 01:48:36.000
twenty two, and what they did
was they got rid of the mascot.

1373
01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:40.920
They said it was derogatory and offensive
to Native Americans. And you had the

1374
01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:43.079
school board vote five to one to
get rid of it, and they're going

1375
01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:46.560
to spend fifty thousand dollars to rebrand
everything. That picture that you see there

1376
01:48:46.600 --> 01:48:49.840
of a guy there. He was
somebody who graduated just a little bit before

1377
01:48:49.880 --> 01:48:54.520
I did, but I didn't know
him. But he was brought to tears

1378
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:58.960
as he talked to the school board
about getting rid of the mascot, and

1379
01:48:59.000 --> 01:49:02.359
Frank they you know, look,
I thought it was a lot of that

1380
01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:05.039
part of it was a lot of
fun. I wasn't really that fond of

1381
01:49:05.159 --> 01:49:09.199
high school the experience in general,
but I did enjoy the band stuff,

1382
01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:14.399
and I did enjoy what we did
with it. But you know, what

1383
01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:17.319
he is upset about is that they're
trampling on his memories. It's like,

1384
01:49:17.359 --> 01:49:19.840
you got your memories, you got
your photographs. Which you should be upset

1385
01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:24.520
about is what they're doing to our
society. They're trying to erase our traditions,

1386
01:49:24.520 --> 01:49:28.159
our culture, our history, and
that's a Marxist tactic. These people

1387
01:49:28.159 --> 01:49:32.399
don't really they're reacting to the most
superficial aspects of this that you're getting rid

1388
01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:36.520
of the Indian head that was on
the building. As a matter of fact,

1389
01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:42.560
this is what it looked like that
big Indian head and there's a TV

1390
01:49:42.760 --> 01:49:45.680
snapshot of TV thing there. They
have to get rid of that. They

1391
01:49:45.720 --> 01:49:49.279
have to have all new uniforms for
the sports teams and for the band and

1392
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:51.239
all the rest of this stuff.
It's going to cost some more than fifty

1393
01:49:51.279 --> 01:49:56.199
thousand dollars. But they had a
lot of people showed up. They had

1394
01:49:56.199 --> 01:50:00.319
a petition of sixty eight hundred signatures
there. People who were opposed to it

1395
01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:06.000
even included the Democrat, female lesbian
mayor of Tampa who went to Chamberlain and

1396
01:50:06.039 --> 01:50:09.439
said, no, I don't want
to see this happening. But they really

1397
01:50:09.479 --> 01:50:12.319
didn't care. And as I said, you know, they went back to

1398
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:21.680
nineteen fifty six when they chose the
the when they got the mascot was chosen.

1399
01:50:23.359 --> 01:50:28.119
And then when you look at move
forward a little bit, this is

1400
01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:31.439
what the drum majors actually looked like
around my time. And you know,

1401
01:50:31.479 --> 01:50:35.079
they would put this is not red
paint like that kid had in Vegas for

1402
01:50:35.159 --> 01:50:41.239
the chiefs. This was a thing
called Texas dirt. So the guys would

1403
01:50:41.239 --> 01:50:44.039
not wear a shirt and they would
get all rubbed down with us, and

1404
01:50:44.079 --> 01:50:45.880
then they would put war paint on
top of that, and that was a

1405
01:50:45.960 --> 01:50:49.880
drum major the way the drum majorid
set up. And so you know,

1406
01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:53.800
if that's something's going to push your
buttons today, boy, that really did

1407
01:50:53.880 --> 01:50:58.359
push your back. And I found
when I saw this article, I saw

1408
01:50:58.439 --> 01:51:03.319
that they had banned that from the
band. The band, the band.

1409
01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:06.439
They don't have a marching band anymore. They have a drum corps, and

1410
01:51:06.479 --> 01:51:09.880
they don't have a chief anymore.
At Chamber they got rid of that.

1411
01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:13.239
They got rid of the dancers that
were part of the band because they also

1412
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:16.960
had headdresses. This is an article
from two thousand and seven, so as

1413
01:51:16.960 --> 01:51:21.000
recently as two thousand and seven they
did have dancers who wore this head dress

1414
01:51:21.039 --> 01:51:25.680
and everything. And in that article
they talk about the fact they got these

1415
01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:28.720
headdresses out that had been used.
I don't know if maybe they stopped using

1416
01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:30.840
them and they started using them again
or something, and they said they were

1417
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:34.359
all old and smelly and sweaty and
they had mildew on them, so we

1418
01:51:34.399 --> 01:51:36.520
had to get all new ones.
And they went to a guy who was

1419
01:51:36.680 --> 01:51:41.800
an Indian and he said, I
can make those, and they got him

1420
01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:44.199
to make them and he made them
out of turkey feathers. They had white

1421
01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:46.520
turkey feathers and stuff, and he
said he was really honored to be able

1422
01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:51.039
to do that because you see,
they're not mocking them. There's no mockery

1423
01:51:51.079 --> 01:51:56.560
involved in this. This is not
at all like black faced minstrels. And

1424
01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.439
they had a big deal about it
with Florida State University. For state University

1425
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:04.159
they're the Seminoles, and said now
we're going to shut that down. And

1426
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:09.640
the Seminole Tribe of Florida said,
no, we're honored by that. We

1427
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:15.880
don't want to shut that thing down. And so this guy who spoke there

1428
01:52:15.720 --> 01:52:19.159
said that he graduated from high school
there. He went on to obtain his

1429
01:52:19.199 --> 01:52:24.039
master's degree in biology medical science.
He wrote his thesis on medicinal plants of

1430
01:52:24.039 --> 01:52:29.039
North America that were used by indigenous
people. He said, I am an

1431
01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:32.239
Iroquois from many generations ago, heritage
that is near and dear to my heart,

1432
01:52:32.239 --> 01:52:35.479
and it meant a lot to me
to be a proud chief. Again,

1433
01:52:36.079 --> 01:52:41.079
he doesn't understand what's going on,
you know, he's just reacting to

1434
01:52:41.159 --> 01:52:45.960
the surface issues of this, like
many other alumni speaking before him. He

1435
01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:49.680
was a member of the Chamblin High
School Legacy Alliance, an organization composed of

1436
01:52:49.720 --> 01:52:54.560
alumni. But here's what's happened with
all this. They were opposed to what

1437
01:52:54.680 --> 01:53:00.039
was being done by this group that
called themselves the Parent Advisory Committee Title six

1438
01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:06.760
Parent Advisory Committee. The Title six
is part of the nineteen sixty four Civil

1439
01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:10.760
Rights Act. And you may have
this kind of stuff happening in your town.

1440
01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:15.319
This is a little self appointed group
that decided that they were going to

1441
01:53:15.319 --> 01:53:20.039
go around and they were going to
shut down every mascot that had anything that

1442
01:53:20.079 --> 01:53:26.720
they were offended by. Okay,
and a bunch of little petty Marxist tyrants.

1443
01:53:26.720 --> 01:53:30.920
And he doesn't really address this Marxist
tyranny. He doesn't understand that as

1444
01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:34.800
she Van Fleet did, how this
is exactly what Mao and Stalin and all

1445
01:53:34.840 --> 01:53:40.760
these Marxists did. He doesn't get
it. And so this little Advisory committee

1446
01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:47.479
is part of a national organization of
parents who have taken this Title six initiative.

1447
01:53:47.479 --> 01:53:51.079
The government gives you money, and
then it's going to pull this back

1448
01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:55.720
if you don't do what they say. And they have used this and by

1449
01:53:55.720 --> 01:53:58.399
the way, it's not just the
federal money. This is created a nineteen

1450
01:53:58.479 --> 01:54:01.920
sixty four Civil Rights Act discrimination.
This is not discrimination. They're not discriminating

1451
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:06.760
against anybody, and they're not mocking
anybody either. So how does this apply,

1452
01:54:08.079 --> 01:54:11.720
Well, it doesn't matter because you've
got these squeaky wheels of a bunch

1453
01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:16.199
of women who've got nothing better to
do, and so they're going around doing

1454
01:54:16.239 --> 01:54:21.439
this all the different schools in the
area. And according to the chairwomen of

1455
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:27.359
the Hillsborough County Title six Committee,
Shannon Durant, and again, it's all

1456
01:54:27.399 --> 01:54:30.600
women, and everybody on the school
board were all women. We now have

1457
01:54:30.680 --> 01:54:34.840
a matriarchy. You see, the
matriarchy. This opposition to the so called

1458
01:54:34.920 --> 01:54:39.840
patriarchy was not about having an equality
of men and women. It was about

1459
01:54:39.840 --> 01:54:43.920
replacing men at the top with women
at the top. And that's exactly what

1460
01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:46.199
they this is all being. The
committee is all women, the school board

1461
01:54:46.399 --> 01:54:50.159
is all women, and their feelings
are hurt and they're out for blood.

1462
01:54:50.520 --> 01:54:55.560
And so they've gotten rid of the
mascots of Adam's Middle School, which fed

1463
01:54:55.560 --> 01:55:00.159
into Chamberlaine went to both of those
and then a five different elementary school that

1464
01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.920
had various Indian things. They claimed
that these are derogatory, No they're not.

1465
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:09.319
That they damaged the self esteem of
students of Native American heritage. No,

1466
01:55:09.359 --> 01:55:12.279
they don't, but they want to
get rid of anybody who's got a

1467
01:55:12.279 --> 01:55:15.640
mascot that's Indian chiefs, warriors,
braves, any of that kind of stuff.

1468
01:55:16.640 --> 01:55:19.840
And so the only school in Hillsboro
County that was allowed to keep this

1469
01:55:19.920 --> 01:55:26.079
was one called East Bay. They
were the East Bay Indians, and they

1470
01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:31.760
had an election and the student body
there unanimously, unanimously decided to keep the

1471
01:55:31.800 --> 01:55:36.199
mascot. They had an election at
this high school at Chamberlain and they had

1472
01:55:36.199 --> 01:55:42.520
seventy seven percent of the people say
we want to keep it, and seventy

1473
01:55:42.520 --> 01:55:45.079
eight percent sorry, twenty two percent. So they wanted to get rid of

1474
01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:50.239
it. And it didn't matter.
They got rid of it anyway. The

1475
01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:55.359
people at the As a matter of
fact, they also put up a survey.

1476
01:55:55.439 --> 01:55:58.479
Look at this. The Hillsboro County
School put up a survey, so

1477
01:55:58.560 --> 01:56:01.439
we would like to know what you
think, and so this is online survey.

1478
01:56:01.479 --> 01:56:05.640
But they never released this survey.
We like to know what you think.

1479
01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:11.039
They got They figured out that by
the thousands people didn't like what they

1480
01:56:11.039 --> 01:56:15.520
were doing, so they made the
survey disappear. That's how dishonest this stuff

1481
01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:23.439
is. But it gets even more
interesting when she talks about this this person

1482
01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:28.960
who is part of their the Committee
of six. It's like something out of

1483
01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:33.920
the Prisoner right, And she says, one person said, I'm not really

1484
01:56:33.920 --> 01:56:36.520
happy the way that all this was
done. Who was a member of the

1485
01:56:36.520 --> 01:56:40.520
graduating class back in nineteen fifty eight, the first one. She's eighty two

1486
01:56:40.600 --> 01:56:44.479
years old. She was a chief
at at the time. She said that,

1487
01:56:45.800 --> 01:56:48.960
she talked, said they had an
election and only twenty two percent agreed

1488
01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:51.720
to remove the mascot. But again
seventy eight to twenty two. So the

1489
01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:55.560
twenty two wins. When the Marxists
are doing the county. This is the

1490
01:56:55.560 --> 01:56:58.479
way you want to have an election. This is the way the Marxists count

1491
01:56:58.520 --> 01:57:02.520
votes when they want to get something. And so she has the audacity of

1492
01:57:05.079 --> 01:57:10.520
when she wants to scrub this one
of these titles six members, Jennifer Hart

1493
01:57:10.680 --> 01:57:16.640
says, these mascots are teaching stereotypical, misleading and often insulting images of indigenous

1494
01:57:16.680 --> 01:57:20.560
people. Well, I'll just show
this too. Is there anything cartoonish or

1495
01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:27.199
characteristic about that? No, there
isn't. But anyway, she said,

1496
01:57:29.680 --> 01:57:34.159
she said this was led by students, she said, And if we can't

1497
01:57:34.159 --> 01:57:38.159
honor what the students want, what
are we doing. This is the woman

1498
01:57:38.279 --> 01:57:43.479
with a committee of six who says
this is led by the students. They

1499
01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:45.800
had an election, seventy eight percent
of the students did not want to change.

1500
01:57:45.880 --> 01:57:48.439
She says, it's led by the
election. It was what they did

1501
01:57:48.520 --> 01:57:51.159
when they couldn't get a majority.
They shut down. They ask people their

1502
01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:56.119
opinion, they shut it down on
the survey, and then they go to

1503
01:57:56.239 --> 01:58:00.680
have an election. And when they
get slammed at that election, and they

1504
01:58:00.680 --> 01:58:03.359
go to the student council and these
are a bunch of kids, as we

1505
01:58:03.399 --> 01:58:06.039
all know, you know, who've
got political aspirations. And they've got a

1506
01:58:06.039 --> 01:58:12.039
student advisor who just graduated from college
for the student government. And it was

1507
01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:14.039
a student government who said, yeah, we want to get rid of it

1508
01:58:14.039 --> 01:58:18.079
because our advisor, who's a little
a newly minted Marxist right straight out of

1509
01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:21.840
college, wants this. These are
the people who will control the past.

1510
01:58:23.960 --> 01:58:28.199
By who control the future and control
the past, they will erase the past

1511
01:58:28.640 --> 01:58:30.960
and they will control the future of
that. These are the detlitarians. And

1512
01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:34.479
again, in the big scheme of
things, it doesn't matter. But it's

1513
01:58:34.520 --> 01:58:41.760
like the bump stock. This is
the way these people operate. And Colorado

1514
01:58:42.520 --> 01:58:48.319
you have school fires a white Christian
principle and so he is now suing them.

1515
01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:53.199
He had the principal got angry with
him because he went to a Christian

1516
01:58:53.239 --> 01:58:56.800
meeting, and when he got back
from the Christian meeting, the principal,

1517
01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:00.760
he claims in his lawsuit that his
status is a Christian and as a white

1518
01:59:00.760 --> 01:59:02.680
man, played a role in his
decision to fire him. When he got

1519
01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:11.760
back from the Christian meeting, he
said he was brought into the principal's office

1520
01:59:12.399 --> 01:59:17.319
after he spoke to a Christian student
group of athletes, and the principal changed

1521
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:24.439
his job evaluation. He'd been given
a good job evaluation, he changed it,

1522
01:59:24.640 --> 01:59:30.079
and they put in negative remarks,
including accusations of insubordination, implicit bias,

1523
01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:33.520
and failure to promote safety and equity. You understand what implicit bias is.

1524
01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:36.239
This is one of the tactics that
they've used to say, Well,

1525
01:59:36.520 --> 01:59:43.840
you really aren't consciously racist about people, You don't really hate anybody, but

1526
01:59:43.880 --> 01:59:46.199
because of who you are, because
you've got white skin, you have a

1527
01:59:46.199 --> 01:59:49.600
bias that is implicit it's implied in
the fact that you got white skin.

1528
01:59:50.640 --> 01:59:57.399
This is what they're doing to everybody. And again they're going back to the

1529
01:59:57.439 --> 02:00:00.279
title six to try to shut this
guy down. Look, we just need

1530
02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:10.079
to defund these operations that call themselves
schools, their propaganda operations. And one

1531
02:00:10.159 --> 02:00:15.199
more public school in Michigan. They
said they've got a new guy who again

1532
02:00:15.319 --> 02:00:18.720
just graduated from college, because this
is where they're minting these people. These

1533
02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:24.159
are the seminaries for Marxism. And
he comes on board and he says,

1534
02:00:24.199 --> 02:00:27.439
so, why is Santa Claus always
white? Well, he just need to

1535
02:00:27.439 --> 02:00:30.479
ask Megan Kelly. She knows that
Santa Claus is white. You might as

1536
02:00:30.479 --> 02:00:36.960
well ask why is Mickey Mouse always
black? I don't know, but you

1537
02:00:36.960 --> 02:00:42.800
know, he comes back and he
tells the people in this school that we're

1538
02:00:42.800 --> 02:00:45.039
going to ban Christmas symbols, decorations, and expressions. We're going to have

1539
02:00:45.119 --> 02:00:49.880
a winter celebration. And he puts
out an FAQ there and the teachers got

1540
02:00:50.000 --> 02:00:53.840
upset about this. They contacted Liberty
Council. These are the same people who

1541
02:00:53.960 --> 02:00:59.560
won the court case for hal shirtlift
up in Boston. They wouldn't let him

1542
02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:03.119
fly the Christian flag and I said, well, this is a public area

1543
02:01:03.960 --> 02:01:08.640
and you can't discriminate against me because
you don't like my Christian flag. You

1544
02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:12.479
let everybody fly flags up there.
And he took it all away Supreme Court

1545
02:01:12.520 --> 02:01:16.119
and one hal Shirtliffin. He's got
camp Constitution up there in Massachusetts. I've

1546
02:01:16.119 --> 02:01:19.520
interviewed him multiple times, but I
interviewed him after he won the Supreme Court

1547
02:01:19.560 --> 02:01:23.960
case, I think last year,
and so Liberty Council were the ones who

1548
02:01:24.039 --> 02:01:30.600
won that. Liberty Council was contacted
by teachers at these public schools and they

1549
02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:35.079
said, instead of being inclusive,
these directives are rooted in critical race theory,

1550
02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:41.039
and they promote a hatred for and
they discriminate against Christianity and associated holidays

1551
02:01:41.039 --> 02:01:45.399
such as Christmas. They violate school
policy, they violate the First Amendment,

1552
02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:48.600
they violate Title seven of the Civil
Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. They

1553
02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:51.680
are showing hostility on the basis of
religion and on the basis of race.

1554
02:01:53.199 --> 02:01:55.960
And so there was an email that
was sent from this guy, Matt Morales,

1555
02:01:56.000 --> 02:02:00.199
who just graduated from college, and
they put him in as the director

1556
02:02:00.399 --> 02:02:04.119
of diversity, equity and Inclusion for
the school district. And he writes this

1557
02:02:04.199 --> 02:02:10.840
holiday celebrations email. He says,
while this may be an exciting time for

1558
02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:15.359
many people, others lack a sense
of belonging. Well, isn't that too

1559
02:02:15.399 --> 02:02:18.279
bad? Find something that you like
and do that and leave other people alone

1560
02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:23.960
instead of demanding that everybody can form
to your mental illness, he says,

1561
02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:27.000
And so we need to create a
more inclusive learning community. I asked that

1562
02:02:27.039 --> 02:02:31.680
you review the meaning of decentering Christmas. See this is this not and have

1563
02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:35.079
a diverse display of stuff. And
so he gives them. He says,

1564
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:40.399
We've got to dismantle this hierarchy of
religious practices and holidays, and he gives

1565
02:02:40.439 --> 02:02:47.920
them a recommended resource list. Listen
to this leftist Marxist garbage here. By

1566
02:02:47.920 --> 02:02:51.239
the way, he wants to dismantle
the hierarchy because he wants to establish himself

1567
02:02:51.239 --> 02:02:55.399
at the top of the hierarchy.
That's what the Marxists are doing. And

1568
02:02:55.479 --> 02:02:59.920
so one of the pamphlets is called
Racial Justice Guide to the Winter Holiday Season

1569
02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:05.840
for Educators and Families. Another one
is Christian Privilege, Hegemony and the Winter

1570
02:03:05.920 --> 02:03:12.880
Holiday Season, and then one of
another one Dear white people, the holiday

1571
02:03:12.880 --> 02:03:16.479
season is the best time to tell
our grandparents to stop being racist. And

1572
02:03:16.560 --> 02:03:21.560
finally, why is Santa Claus always
white? Well, it's all obviously because

1573
02:03:21.560 --> 02:03:30.000
of Christian white privilege, isn't it. And so when there is a hierarchy.

1574
02:03:30.079 --> 02:03:33.279
By the way he says in the
email, he says, even non

1575
02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:39.079
religious aspects of a holiday, such
as helf on the shelf, Santa decorated

1576
02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:43.600
trees, are actually centered on Christian
beliefs and practices. And he says even

1577
02:03:43.640 --> 02:03:49.479
these secular aspects must be eliminated because
they promote racism and discrimination based on ethnicity,

1578
02:03:49.560 --> 02:03:55.199
ancestry, color, and Marxism is
what these people are saying, is

1579
02:03:55.520 --> 02:04:01.560
what he's pushing out. And so
he says, Chris and whiteness are problems

1580
02:04:01.560 --> 02:04:05.680
that have to be remedied. Well, you don't like the hierarchical nature of

1581
02:04:05.720 --> 02:04:09.720
this stuff and you want to dismantle
it. How's this for hierarchy? Christ

1582
02:04:09.800 --> 02:04:13.399
is Lord, deal with it and
that's the reality you're going to have to

1583
02:04:13.399 --> 02:04:15.239
deal with. Sooner or later,
you're gonna have to deal with that.

1584
02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:18.159
Do it now while it's not a
difficult thing for you. Finally, before

1585
02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:23.119
we quit and go to our interview, we just had the National Christmas Tree

1586
02:04:23.119 --> 02:04:27.520
near the White House toppled by wind. You see, these people are so

1587
02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:31.199
incompetent that they can't even put up
decorations and have last But I thought it

1588
02:04:31.239 --> 02:04:39.880
was a perfect analogy for what our
government has become. The federal government is

1589
02:04:40.000 --> 02:04:44.159
like you know this dead tree,
right, this big dead Christmas tree.

1590
02:04:44.359 --> 02:04:48.359
So the federal government is like a
large dead tree that is just waiting for

1591
02:04:48.479 --> 02:04:53.760
some wind to come along and knock
it over, and as sooner as the

1592
02:04:53.800 --> 02:04:58.520
better, quite frankly. So we're
going to go to again our reporter.

1593
02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:02.279
It's with an organization called New Found
Hunting, and here is their trailer talking

1594
02:05:02.279 --> 02:05:04.960
about their organization. Then we'll go
right into the interview. Thank you for

1595
02:05:05.039 --> 02:05:09.560
listening, Thank you for joining us
today at this unusual time. Fifty years

1596
02:05:09.600 --> 02:05:13.119
ago, we worked out of a
well founded optimism, a confidence that our

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02:05:13.159 --> 02:05:15.640
products will be the greatest off the
line, the last to fail, the

1598
02:05:15.640 --> 02:05:20.680
first space that we would lead our
peers abroad in technology, finance, and

1599
02:05:20.720 --> 02:05:27.319
manufacturing. Today we'll work over zoom. You're on mute growing, parasitic SaaS

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companies and copycat services, while woke
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1601
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best of us are at risk of
losing our jobs over vax mandates and pronouns,

1602
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while the worst continue their campaigns for
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02:05:40.000 --> 02:05:43.479
doggie daycare. You're at meta.
It doesn't have to be this way.

1604
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:48.279
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who seek excellence of craft, and
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We've made hundreds of connections in the
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Come join us in the new Founding
Talent network. Joining us now is

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Nate Fisher. He is a CEO
of a new Founding and this is bringing

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together people who are entrepreneurs, people
who are venture capitalists to fund this.

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But he's got some very interesting ideas
about setting up a parallel society. How

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do we take back our society.
We've had all of our institutions taken over,

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and when we look at it from
the business standpoint or educational standpoint,

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we all understand the institutions have been
taken over, used against us. So

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how do we build a society when
we have nowhere else to go? Right?

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We can't immigrate to another place,
so we build it parallel here.

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So joining us now is Nate Fisher. Thank you for joining us, sir,

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Thanks for having me. Good to
be here. It's great to talk

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about this subject. And you know, when we look at this, as

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many people pointed out, the Marxists
decided that they were going to march to

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the institutions. They pretty much done
that, and they've pretty much taken over

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everything. And we have a situation
now where we're being canceled left and right.

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What do we do about this?
What are you setting up here to

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help people essentially transcend what is set
up here? In other words, you're

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kind of oriented more I think when
I look at your site, you're more

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oriented towards solutions that are going to
come up with something new that's going to

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transcend it. Rather than going back
and trying to desperately take back these institutions

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that have been taken over. We
create our own new institutions that are going

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to transcend it. Am I correct
about that? That is that gets to

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the core and what I'll say is
to me, and I use the parallel

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economy language at times I think is
helpful to what a lot of people understand.

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Ultimately, I think a necessary condition
is for us to have institutions that

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aren't captured by the Left. A
winning condition, a desirable one, is

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for us to actually gain the power
to take back these institutions. But my

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view is we're not going to do
that. It's just it is an absolute

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grind to do that in spaces where
everything is an uphill battle. I mean,

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you're playing by their rules. The
entire design of bureaucracy is something that

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reflects the rules of the Left.
It is a managerial approach to two organizations.

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So my approach is, either way, we should be doing this.

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There's huge opportunities through the business sector
and particularly through disruptive technology, so high

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level. If our enemies control every
segment of society, every institution, which

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to a large extent they do,
then rather than playing on a playing field

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02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:01.279
that they control, the place that
we should be focused more than anything else

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02:09:01.920 --> 02:09:07.880
is the place where there's the leverage
if you succeed reshuffle the deck in important

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ways. I mean, think of
it like if we were able to get

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if we were able to build the
next Google, or even better, not

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02:09:13.960 --> 02:09:18.479
just the next Google, but something
that is to Google as much bigger than

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02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:22.479
Google is than Google was than some
of the predecessors that it displaced. And

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02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:28.000
you look at the way technology evolves
in there is likely to be a disruptor

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that is that significant in the future, and then not to just the future,

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in the coming decade. So if
we were able to get control of

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things at that scale, then that
lets us not only create entire ways of

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navigating the world that are not under
that thumb, but also also really platforms

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that offer us the leverage to potentially
put on the same pressure on those institutions

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that the Left was able to put
on them when they capture them. And

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of course, you know when we
look at that, first thing that comes

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to my mind is artificial intelligence.
Is people are looking at this saying,

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well, is this a Google killer? There's going to be something If it's

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not that, there's going to be
something that has the potential to do that,

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even though they have a great deal
of money. And so when you're

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looking at this and you're coming at
it, I should have said from the

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very beginning, coming at this from
a Christian perspective, not just a politically

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02:10:16.760 --> 02:10:24.840
conservative perspective. You talk about how
do we catechize the bots? You know,

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how do we get they are setting
up artificial intelligence, they're training it

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02:10:30.159 --> 02:10:33.600
as you would train up a child, but it's going to be a monster

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02:10:33.680 --> 02:10:37.000
once it grows up. How do
we take over that and how do we

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leverage let's say, for example,
artificial intelligence, you know, how do

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we use that to bolster ourselves rather
than become a victim to it? So

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I think you hit on a very
interesting point that I'll elaborate on, which

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is Christian not just conservative. And
I think a challenge that conservatives have faced,

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and it's really impeded our ability to
deal with technology, is in some

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sense conservatism. Conservatism sidesteps some of
the fundamental questions of where we should go,

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02:11:07.399 --> 02:11:11.279
and it focuses on It allows us
to avoid some of what are really

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02:11:11.319 --> 02:11:15.000
pretty serious debates and divides within the
movement, are things that need to be

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hatched out, and it sticks to
conserving good things of the past, things

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we can all agree are good.
The problem with that is that side that

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gives us a very little vision about
what we should be aiming for and it

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leads to conservatives being naturally negatively disposed
toward technology. So if you think about

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it, if your goal is to
preserve good things in the past, technology

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is inherently your enemy. Technology guarantees
that those there is going to be an

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erosion, a creative destruction of many
of the good traditions, good norms that

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02:11:48.800 --> 02:11:54.119
we all agree are good. That's
happened throughout history, and so there's sort

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of a natural suspicion of technology among
conservatives. But what it also leads to

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02:11:58.560 --> 02:12:03.199
is also leads to our just our
failure to play in that space, our

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failure to come up with a vision
for what. So technology is going to

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continue to evolve, there is going
to be innovation. The question I would

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say is what should that be used
for? What should be the vision that

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we try to create with that technology? And if we're not in that playing

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02:12:18.800 --> 02:12:20.439
field at all, the left is
the only one defining that. So it's

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02:12:20.479 --> 02:12:24.640
no surprise that they so surprised that
a lot of new technology is built and

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02:12:24.720 --> 02:12:28.800
sort of the left fills that void. They're the only ones even trying to

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02:12:28.800 --> 02:12:33.359
catechize the bots, and they end
up taking over the domains disrupted by technology

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02:12:33.399 --> 02:12:37.319
even more than the past ones.
But as a Christian we don't have to

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be limited to that. As a
Christian, I do have fundamental answers to

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02:12:39.560 --> 02:12:45.279
this. I believe that we have
a very clear dominion mandate. What does

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dominion look like? God calls us
to that. We have a very clear

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understanding of the person. What is
the right vision of technology that complements the

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02:12:52.640 --> 02:12:58.039
person? The creation of technology is
one of the most fundamentally human processes that

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in many ways sort of parallels God's
career of the world. It is a

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creating something out of nothing, and
I think we can embrace that. And

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if we embrace that, suddenly we
can realize that technology is something that we

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02:13:07.720 --> 02:13:11.039
don't need to be afraid of,
something that we actually have. We can

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02:13:11.079 --> 02:13:15.680
develop a positive vision for what we
should be aiming for. And it's one

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02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:20.760
of the most powerful levers we have
available to to change, reshuffle kind of

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02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:24.000
a world that right now seems stacked
against us, to disrupt our opponents in

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many ways. So is AI a
component of that? I think a I

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could be a component of that.
I'm probably a little more of an AI.

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02:13:31.119 --> 02:13:33.840
I won't say I'm an AI customist. I'm not worried about AI the

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02:13:33.880 --> 02:13:37.640
way some of these people are.
I don't think AI is going to be

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02:13:37.840 --> 02:13:41.239
as as transformative as some people assume, Like I don't. I don't believe

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02:13:41.279 --> 02:13:48.840
that AGI is going to is going
to come and displace sort of totally replace

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02:13:48.920 --> 02:13:52.960
humans. That comes back to my
view of sort of the special nature of

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02:13:54.039 --> 02:13:58.239
people, as as people made an
image of God, not just as sort

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02:13:58.239 --> 02:14:03.640
of the material being. So I
think that I think an understanding of AI

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02:14:03.760 --> 02:14:09.439
and understanding of human nature actually will
allow us to develop AI that is actually

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02:14:09.560 --> 02:14:13.560
complementary to humans, which is ultimately
going to be a more effective use of

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02:14:13.600 --> 02:14:16.239
the technology than if you believe it's
going to just totally replace humans, which

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02:14:16.279 --> 02:14:20.239
is going to lead to all sorts
of I think, confusion about what it

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02:14:20.279 --> 02:14:24.319
can be, and probably unfulfilled promises, just like driverless cars remain an unfulfilled,

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02:14:24.960 --> 02:14:28.640
unfulfilled promise at a large scale.
So I think a proper understanding it

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02:14:28.680 --> 02:14:33.880
of technology, well, what it
does is absolutely these algorithms do play an

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02:14:33.039 --> 02:14:37.159
enormous role in helping us navigate the
world, whether it's sort of what are

1725
02:14:37.159 --> 02:14:43.399
seen as AI algorithms today or other
curation algorithms, whether it's the Google algorithm

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02:14:43.439 --> 02:14:46.159
whether it's sort of yelped setting where
you eat dinner or whatever. They play

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02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:50.239
a role in navigating the world,
and we do need to catechize them with

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02:14:50.319 --> 02:14:56.119
our values, like our positive vision
should be baked into into the value system

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02:14:56.159 --> 02:15:00.520
that these algorithms help scale. I
agree when we look at it fundamentally,

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02:15:00.560 --> 02:15:03.399
technology as a tool, and it
can be good or evil. And I

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02:15:03.399 --> 02:15:05.960
think one of the things that I've
noticed, because I come from this from

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02:15:05.960 --> 02:15:11.520
an engineering background, and it always
concerned me an engineering because it was so

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02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:15.800
secular. I would see so many
engineers who would just simply see it as

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02:15:15.920 --> 02:15:18.039
a puzzle to be solved, and
they didn't really care how it was going

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02:15:18.079 --> 02:15:20.840
to be used, who was going
to use it, or for what purpose.

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And I always had a problem with
that, and I guess it kind

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02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:26.880
of came to a head when I
talked to Hugo Degaris, who was a

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02:15:26.920 --> 02:15:33.039
developer of artificial intelligence early on.
I think he's retired now, but he

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02:15:33.399 --> 02:15:41.319
said he would pose the question to
his scientific audiences and say he was not

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02:15:41.399 --> 02:15:43.840
a believer, and so he said, well, I think that we're going

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02:15:43.920 --> 02:15:48.119
to create something that is a godlike
intelligence and it may wind up killing us.

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02:15:48.560 --> 02:15:52.279
Would you do that. And he
would ask his audience. It would

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02:15:52.279 --> 02:15:56.840
be scientists and engineers, and they
would always the majority of asque majority of

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02:15:56.840 --> 02:15:58.960
them would say yes. He did
that at a Christian conference that I was

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02:16:00.079 --> 02:16:03.239
speaking at, and he said,
this was the first time that people said

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02:16:03.319 --> 02:16:05.520
no. And so I think when
Christians look at a tool like this,

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02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:11.840
or a technology or a group of
companies, and you see where these people

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02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:15.199
are coming from, your reaction is
to push back away from it, rather

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02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:18.760
than to say, maybe there's a
tool that we could use to transcend this

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02:16:18.880 --> 02:16:20.800
and to instill our values, which
is what I think you're talking about.

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02:16:22.640 --> 02:16:24.359
Well, and I think you can
go back to Genesis and you can see

1752
02:16:24.399 --> 02:16:30.159
that God called us to dominion over
the earth. We are called to a

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02:16:30.279 --> 02:16:35.120
great deal of transformation and impact.
I think it comes down to the intent.

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02:16:35.440 --> 02:16:39.399
Would you create a godlike intelligence A
that's not possible, You're going to

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02:16:39.399 --> 02:16:43.159
fail. It has more power.
What they're doing is they're paralleling what was

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02:16:43.200 --> 02:16:48.239
done at the Tower of Babble.
They're trying to create something they can raise

1757
02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:52.559
them to the heavens. And it
was very obvious that God thoroughly frustrated their

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02:16:52.600 --> 02:16:56.559
plans. They have no understanding of
the power that they're they're up against.

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02:16:58.239 --> 02:17:01.840
It's a feudal task. They fail. But at the same time, that

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02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:05.959
is that has been an impulse of
man since the dawn of time. That's

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02:17:07.040 --> 02:17:09.440
right. And yet you know,
when we look at this, if we

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02:17:09.879 --> 02:17:11.680
looked at the Tower of Babel,
for example, and say, well,

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02:17:11.719 --> 02:17:15.360
your purpose is evil and I don't
want to be involved in that venture.

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02:17:16.159 --> 02:17:18.440
But we can look at this and
say, but I like the way that

1765
02:17:18.479 --> 02:17:22.280
you braced this. You know,
You've got to do construction technique that I've

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02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:26.159
not seen here before. I think
I can use that to build something good

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02:17:26.680 --> 02:17:28.680
that is not in rebellion to God. And so I think that's really where

1768
02:17:28.680 --> 02:17:31.920
we need to be. And I
think you know, when Reagan talked about

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02:17:33.159 --> 02:17:35.360
the evil Empire, he would say, well, we're going to transcend them.

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02:17:35.520 --> 02:17:39.200
And I think that needs to be
our attitude, that we're going to

1771
02:17:39.200 --> 02:17:43.719
build something that is better, that
we can build something that is better and

1772
02:17:43.879 --> 02:17:48.200
rather than just you know, I
understand people looking at this kind of arrogant

1773
02:17:48.239 --> 02:17:52.239
attitude as you talk about kind of
a Tower Babbel attitude, this pride,

1774
02:17:52.360 --> 02:17:56.520
this godlessness that is out there,
and our first instinct is Christians is to

1775
02:17:56.559 --> 02:18:00.559
just totally reject it and walk away, rather than looking at this and saying,

1776
02:18:00.959 --> 02:18:03.840
well, this could be dangerous to
us, this is a tool that

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02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:07.920
could be used against us. There
are things here that we could use that

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02:18:07.959 --> 02:18:11.200
would be good turned to good.
And you know they may have meant it

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02:18:11.239 --> 02:18:13.000
for evil, but let's see what
we can do to use this for good.

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02:18:13.639 --> 02:18:16.680
And that's a tricky thing to do, but I think that what you're

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02:18:16.680 --> 02:18:22.000
trying to do is apply Christian principles
in that space. To do something like

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02:18:22.040 --> 02:18:24.120
that. Is that correct? Absolutely? And I think I think there's sort

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02:18:24.120 --> 02:18:28.079
of there's a several folds. So
one of the one of the projects that

1784
02:18:28.120 --> 02:18:33.120
I found it is called American Reformer, and it's a nonprofit focused on restoring

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02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:37.200
and revitalizing Protestant thinking and traditional Protestant
thought, which has a rich tradition of

1786
02:18:37.239 --> 02:18:41.200
addressing a lot of these questions.
I mean, the Protestant Reformation really built

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02:18:41.200 --> 02:18:46.280
on the printing press, very new
technology, very very early, is a

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02:18:46.280 --> 02:18:50.760
great deal of leverage. So it's
certainly a tradition that understands how to use

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02:18:50.760 --> 02:18:54.440
technology, but it's I think a
lot of that thought, a lot of

1790
02:18:54.479 --> 02:18:58.440
the deeper thought there has been lost
in the evangelical church today and really just

1791
02:18:58.760 --> 02:19:03.559
a culture that hasn't emphasized it.
It's part of our tradition, just as

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02:19:03.559 --> 02:19:09.079
Catholics have a lot of thinking in
that space. So part of it is

1793
02:19:09.399 --> 02:19:13.440
and then the goal is to revitalize
revitalized Christian institutions. Part of the goal

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02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:18.319
is can we revitalize a church that
can lead the way and provide the thought

1795
02:19:18.319 --> 02:19:20.959
that can help shape and anchor any
vision. And then I see venture and

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02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:28.000
a venture firm as a really great
platform for sort of articulating this vision or

1797
02:19:28.000 --> 02:19:31.799
at least taking sort of the first
steps of what a positive vision of technology

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02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:37.280
should look like, which includes our
focus is particularly on those where there's going

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02:19:37.319 --> 02:19:41.280
to be sort of a meaningful political
difference. Typically, think of something where

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02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:46.079
that the early adopters would be Christian's
conservatives, what have you, And there's

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02:19:46.079 --> 02:19:48.520
a lot of cases where that's actually
likely to be the case. We are

1802
02:19:48.559 --> 02:19:52.399
the ones who are the most dissatisfied
with the status quote if you think of

1803
02:19:52.440 --> 02:19:56.600
previous sort of movements where people have
exited in mass, which is what you

1804
02:19:56.799 --> 02:20:01.079
need to get. Early adopters for
a new technology were the first communities to

1805
02:20:01.079 --> 02:20:03.920
come to America really as coherent communities, and you could say gain a network

1806
02:20:03.920 --> 02:20:09.399
effect. Here it was deeply religious, profoundly dissatisfied communities. I mean,

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02:20:09.440 --> 02:20:11.959
you had the sort of got a
few people who are economically motivated and such,

1808
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but a lot of those the Puritans, the Quakers likewise, early adopters

1809
02:20:16.760 --> 02:20:20.719
of the homeschool movement were Christian.
I think there's a lot of situations where

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if you have something new, there's
a very reasonable chance that the most natural

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02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:28.440
users of it. Again, it'll
depend a little bit on the design.

1812
02:20:28.600 --> 02:20:31.959
Is it built to centrally control or
is it built too is it is it

1813
02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:35.879
built to be a tower of baffle
In that case, that case we wouldn't

1814
02:20:35.879 --> 02:20:41.200
be. But it is actually technology
that offers things that we value greater decentralization

1815
02:20:41.319 --> 02:20:46.920
that makes it harder for us to
be censored. Is the technology that that

1816
02:20:48.360 --> 02:20:52.079
includes encryption or whatever, things that
things that sort of a dissionent minority can

1817
02:20:52.079 --> 02:20:58.159
be naturally expected to value were the
natural early adopters, and as a result,

1818
02:20:58.520 --> 02:21:03.000
companies that know how to reach that
market will have an edge in the

1819
02:21:03.040 --> 02:21:07.760
competition. If that is the technology
that becomes the Google disruptor. Let's say

1820
02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:11.040
we may have an edge in that
competition because we can get the early adopters

1821
02:21:11.079 --> 02:21:16.200
first. So going back to what
we're doing for Venture, my interest is

1822
02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:22.959
is businesses where there's a very specific
thesis around reaching people like that with a

1823
02:21:22.000 --> 02:21:24.520
product. It's fine if it's just
a product that's always going to be a

1824
02:21:24.559 --> 02:21:28.760
sort of niche serving our customer base. I mean, we've invested in a

1825
02:21:28.840 --> 02:21:33.559
pro life health insurance company that's it's
not necessarily a second where there's going to

1826
02:21:33.559 --> 02:21:37.120
be mass disruption. They do have
a superior product in many ways. It

1827
02:21:37.159 --> 02:21:41.879
has a lot of regulatory reasons that
they're able to they're aiming to make it

1828
02:21:43.079 --> 02:21:46.840
cheaper than many of the other ones
there. But it's fine if it's just

1829
02:21:46.920 --> 02:21:54.040
an available product that provides cost effective
insurance that fits your values, includes access

1830
02:21:54.079 --> 02:21:56.840
to a network of doctors who aren't
going to force the vacs on you or

1831
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don't try to trans your kids.
That's fine. But there's other cases where

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there's actually going to be a next
generation technology that is maybe it's initially serving

1833
02:22:07.200 --> 02:22:11.559
our needs, but it has the
potential to move on and disrupt the disrupt

1834
02:22:11.600 --> 02:22:16.639
the incumbent players. So that's that's
really our focus. I see venture as

1835
02:22:16.680 --> 02:22:22.639
the place where we can be ourselves
articulating, taking some stabs at some of

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the ideas we see as potentially transformative, and then working with entrepreneurs who are

1837
02:22:28.479 --> 02:22:31.639
really drawn to that, and working
experts in a particular domain, and working

1838
02:22:31.680 --> 02:22:37.399
out an actual business to realize that. Yeah, and I think you know,

1839
02:22:37.399 --> 02:22:39.120
when we've looked at this, we've
seen a great deal of change in

1840
02:22:39.239 --> 02:22:46.639
the homeschooling movement and educational stuff because
we understand how corrupted and controlled the schools

1841
02:22:46.719 --> 02:22:52.280
are as institutions and how they become
antithetical to education. But you know,

1842
02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:54.440
we now see over the last three
years, it seems to me like there'd

1843
02:22:54.440 --> 02:22:58.760
be a lot of opportunity within the
medical area, as you pointed out just

1844
02:23:00.200 --> 02:23:03.159
now, because you've got a lot
of people who are very dissatisfied with this

1845
02:23:03.239 --> 02:23:09.040
corrupt medical institution that's run on a
very different it seems to me like there's

1846
02:23:09.040 --> 02:23:11.120
an opportunity and some people are starting
to take advantage of this, have a

1847
02:23:11.159 --> 02:23:18.319
completely different par nine towards healthcare,
and there's a big desire for people to

1848
02:23:18.319 --> 02:23:22.639
be able to get out of this
dangerous, controlled, in many cases,

1849
02:23:22.760 --> 02:23:31.680
kidnapping type of medical feel that's there. It's overpriced, and it is very

1850
02:23:31.760 --> 02:23:37.040
authoritarian and centrally controlled and pushing products
that many people do not regard as safe

1851
02:23:37.159 --> 02:23:41.520
or effective. And so it seems
to me like there's a real desperation out

1852
02:23:41.520 --> 02:23:46.920
there for things to be restructured,
as well as a lot of people who

1853
02:23:46.920 --> 02:23:52.280
refuse to take the vaccine mandate who
are trained medical professionals and would like to

1854
02:23:52.319 --> 02:23:56.239
be a part of that on the
service side. So I imagine there's some

1855
02:23:56.280 --> 02:24:00.360
opportunities in that as well. Now
you put together, tell a little bit

1856
02:24:00.399 --> 02:24:05.000
about how your company operates before we
get into some of the other ideas that

1857
02:24:05.040 --> 02:24:11.319
you have about parallel society. You
have opportunities for people to invest into the

1858
02:24:11.440 --> 02:24:16.079
venture capital funding. Is that correct
as well as you know, investing in

1859
02:24:16.120 --> 02:24:18.399
companies who have ideas. Tell us
little bit about that. Yes, so

1860
02:24:18.440 --> 02:24:22.879
we really have the fundamental theme is
ventured and in some ways the fundamental theme

1861
02:24:22.959 --> 02:24:26.360
is we fly the flag. We're
willing to be very public about a vision

1862
02:24:26.840 --> 02:24:31.840
that in the private sector a lot
of people are drawn to, but far

1863
02:24:31.879 --> 02:24:33.959
few are a public about their beliefs. Sign I mean there's many many people

1864
02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:41.159
in elite levels of the private sector
companies who recognize the problems, they recognize

1865
02:24:41.159 --> 02:24:43.319
something needs to be done, but
they're not going to fly that flag very

1866
02:24:43.319 --> 02:24:46.520
publicly at this point until the right
opportunity comes along. And sometimes that right

1867
02:24:46.559 --> 02:24:50.479
opportunity is they need to meet someone
else, let's say it a potential business

1868
02:24:50.479 --> 02:24:56.879
partner or potential potential employer, and
so by flying that flag we end up

1869
02:24:56.920 --> 02:25:00.719
just being We get a lot of
people coming to It's a lot of private

1870
02:25:00.799 --> 02:25:05.639
dms on Twitter, a lot of
messages LinkedIn Twitter forms, on our website

1871
02:25:05.719 --> 02:25:09.520
or whatever coming to us, some
of whom are people who are are not

1872
02:25:09.639 --> 02:25:13.079
public yet but will tell us a
lot about themselves, a lot about their

1873
02:25:13.079 --> 02:25:16.719
interests, a lot about their desires. And then fundamentally, a lot of

1874
02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:20.879
this comes down to just putting together
the matches, figure out what this person

1875
02:25:20.319 --> 02:25:24.360
has to offer it's often incredibly valuable, and what they need and can we

1876
02:25:24.399 --> 02:25:26.920
offer that. And so the way
we've sort of organized this into a few

1877
02:25:26.920 --> 02:25:30.760
business lines. First, we have
a fund. We've launched a venture fund

1878
02:25:31.120 --> 02:25:35.079
on angel List, which is a
platform that is become very popular in Silicon

1879
02:25:35.159 --> 02:25:39.920
Valley for early stage funds. Fairly
libertarian its culture too, so it's one

1880
02:25:39.959 --> 02:25:45.719
that it's one that is not likely
to censor us. They were happy with

1881
02:25:45.799 --> 02:25:52.360
the very explicitly political vision that we
put out there. And it's a it's

1882
02:25:52.360 --> 02:25:54.120
called a rolling fund where people can
come in on a quarter by quarter basis

1883
02:25:54.120 --> 02:26:01.120
and it's accessible to basically high net
worth edit it but not I don't need

1884
02:26:01.159 --> 02:26:09.280
to be institutional skill investors and raise
from that and then invest that into early

1885
02:26:09.280 --> 02:26:13.799
stage companies with a conventional venture model. But we're going to provide really probably

1886
02:26:13.840 --> 02:26:18.719
a degree more value at than a
lot of investors because we because we have

1887
02:26:18.840 --> 02:26:22.920
this network. So we invested in
this probably Felt insurance company, where we

1888
02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:26.760
let their preceed round. We'll probably
be investing in another company very soon again

1889
02:26:26.840 --> 02:26:31.399
leading their preceed round. And in
both cases we're able to really do a

1890
02:26:31.399 --> 02:26:35.520
lot in terms of introducing them to
potential partners, advise them on how to

1891
02:26:35.559 --> 02:26:37.879
reach potential customers in a space where
it's just not well. You can't go

1892
02:26:37.959 --> 02:26:41.239
to a marketing firm and say,
hey, I want to I want to

1893
02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:46.879
market to Christians and conservatives. I
mean, most mainstream marketing firms don't even

1894
02:26:46.920 --> 02:26:48.559
know how to think about that,
or if they do, they'll have a

1895
02:26:48.680 --> 02:26:52.319
very sort of simplicity I view about
that, and it's not easy, partially

1896
02:26:52.360 --> 02:26:58.959
because the commercial intermediaries have actually blocked
it. So in many cases there's not

1897
02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:03.239
established like you can't use established ad
networks. You can't there's no network to

1898
02:27:03.319 --> 02:27:09.159
reach to reach most of these people, it ends up being a lot of

1899
02:27:09.200 --> 02:27:15.760
independent I mean understanding how to reach
different independent podcast advertisers, influencers, other

1900
02:27:15.840 --> 02:27:18.719
partnerships, often creative or earned media
efforts. So we're really we'll be able

1901
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:22.239
to work with these people to understand
their audience. You mentioned the trends in

1902
02:27:22.280 --> 02:27:28.879
medicine where people are moving away from
away from sort of the current medical system,

1903
02:27:28.920 --> 02:27:31.520
and it's not just about it's not
just about sort of explicitly things that

1904
02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:35.440
would be seen as sort of traditionally
like liberal values. It's a lot of

1905
02:27:35.559 --> 02:27:39.200
is people recognize sort of the corruption
of the whole system, and there's some

1906
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:41.600
trends that reshaping how they think about
it. We understand those kind of things.

1907
02:27:41.799 --> 02:27:46.680
So basically for involvement, people can
invest in the fund, we turn

1908
02:27:46.719 --> 02:27:50.719
around and invest the money in companies
in this space, and we've really become

1909
02:27:50.799 --> 02:27:54.280
the go to desired partner for companies
that fit this profile. Then we do

1910
02:27:54.360 --> 02:27:58.680
a few more things. So we
do we do what we call venture studio,

1911
02:28:00.239 --> 02:28:03.600
where we're actually participants in the founding
of the company. So you can

1912
02:28:03.600 --> 02:28:07.879
make a venture fund, like we
write a check to the company our fund

1913
02:28:07.879 --> 02:28:11.159
to get some ownership stake. We
end up splitting. We end up giving

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majority of that money back to the
investors. We take a split of that

1915
02:28:13.200 --> 02:28:18.479
venture studio, We as new founding
will actually be effectively a co founder of

1916
02:28:18.559 --> 02:28:20.440
the company. And that's going to
be done in a few cases where we

1917
02:28:20.520 --> 02:28:24.840
have real strategic value to add.
Maybe it's maybe it's not a company that

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02:28:24.879 --> 02:28:28.719
requires the same level as the capital
intensity, but it's much more about the

1919
02:28:28.719 --> 02:28:31.879
connections and much more about some of
the business acumen, and we'll we'll jump

1920
02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:39.079
in there and we'll actually help help
launch it. Then we have advisory where

1921
02:28:39.120 --> 02:28:43.440
we'll work with you can think of
this sort of investment banking advisory or fractional

1922
02:28:43.479 --> 02:28:48.000
CFO. We actually just helped advise
on a deal that closed where it was

1923
02:28:48.040 --> 02:28:52.959
a seven million dollar acquisition by some
people we've been working with previously in other

1924
02:28:52.959 --> 02:28:56.559
capacities and they had this opportunity to
buy this company, and we represented them

1925
02:28:56.559 --> 02:29:01.360
on the trends action and have investment
bankers have been through that process before,

1926
02:29:01.399 --> 02:29:05.399
and we're able to provide just significant
advice and execution throughout the process. And

1927
02:29:05.559 --> 02:29:09.840
finally we'll do we'll do talent placements. We have this broader network and part

1928
02:29:09.840 --> 02:29:11.719
of that is our talent network where
people can come to us that can sign

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02:29:11.799 --> 02:29:18.600
up for our network, and we
talk to companies that are looking for they're

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02:29:18.639 --> 02:29:22.719
looking for good people who are going
to be values aligned, and we can

1931
02:29:22.760 --> 02:29:26.840
serve them, we can help fill
their roles. So it's really it's ultimately

1932
02:29:26.879 --> 02:29:28.719
as you can see, for all
of them, there's a lot of making

1933
02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:33.879
matches and there's a lot of providing
that business and strategic advisory services to companies

1934
02:29:33.879 --> 02:29:37.479
and really across the board trying to
just accelerate the growth of this sector.

1935
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Well, I think that's very important
because you know, when we look at

1936
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where we are right now, as
you were saying, when you're describing this,

1937
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there's a lot of people who whose
values are aligned with ours, but

1938
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they're afraid to speak out. You
know, this is you know, the

1939
02:29:50.520 --> 02:29:54.440
danger of how extensive the takeover has
been of our institutions and everything else in

1940
02:29:54.520 --> 02:29:58.319
terms of the cancel culture and censorship
and that type of thing, and so

1941
02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:01.479
it's important have some kind of a
clearinghouse in a sense what you're doing.

1942
02:30:03.120 --> 02:30:07.399
You've already got kind of a parallel
structure here, but it's also kind of,

1943
02:30:07.879 --> 02:30:09.760
you know, even though there's nothing
criminal about it, it is still

1944
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kind of has to be kind of
underground in order to get past the censorship

1945
02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:20.559
and the canceling that is there.
It truly is amazing to see how rapidly

1946
02:30:20.799 --> 02:30:26.079
this has been put in and how
it's going to accelerate. I think,

1947
02:30:26.360 --> 02:30:30.799
so, how do you see the
future of business and a digital age like

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this where there is a lot of
centralized control. You know, when I

1949
02:30:33.920 --> 02:30:37.840
first started looking, we look at
the internet initially the rise of the personal

1950
02:30:37.879 --> 02:30:41.760
computer. I'm old enough that I
began when it was mainframe computers, and

1951
02:30:41.799 --> 02:30:46.879
I thought, what an amazing liberation
now that we have personal computers. And

1952
02:30:46.079 --> 02:30:50.360
it worked that way for a while, but then through the social media networks

1953
02:30:50.360 --> 02:30:54.079
and other things like that, they
were able to establish the search engines,

1954
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they were able to re establish the
centralized control. Again, what do we

1955
02:30:58.479 --> 02:31:05.319
do to get away from this centralizing
trend? Very good question, and I

1956
02:31:05.319 --> 02:31:09.719
think it's hard to know exactly how
any disruptive technology plays at That's sort of

1957
02:31:09.719 --> 02:31:15.559
the nature of it. There's dynamics
that are there's dynamics that make it very

1958
02:31:15.559 --> 02:31:18.520
hard to predict precisely. So what
I tend to look at is I tend

1959
02:31:18.520 --> 02:31:20.479
to look at, sort of at
the macro level, what are the sort

1960
02:31:20.479 --> 02:31:26.000
of trends, what are the factors
that are likely to shape outcomes? And

1961
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what I would say is, yes, certainly, the web two point zero

1962
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the social media was a sharp divergence
from what was seen as the early promise

1963
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of the Internet, which was all
about liberation and really freeing people to have

1964
02:31:46.159 --> 02:31:50.159
access to information. I think there's
an extent to which that did play out,

1965
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right. I think that what Facebook
Facebook in particular did during the trumppot

1966
02:31:56.719 --> 02:32:01.879
during twenty sixteen in playing a role
in the election of Trump was shocking to

1967
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a lot of people in Silicon Valley
because it showed that this technology was not

1968
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invariably going to lead in a progressive
direction the way they imagined it. I

1969
02:32:11.479 --> 02:32:13.600
mean, Facebook's mission was to make
the world a more open and connected place,

1970
02:32:15.440 --> 02:32:20.200
and lo and behold, what does
that do It It opens up channels

1971
02:32:20.200 --> 02:32:24.200
for a large, very frustrated group
in the country that had really been shut

1972
02:32:24.200 --> 02:32:28.000
out of whose messages have been shut
out of mainstream media, and combined with

1973
02:32:28.040 --> 02:32:31.319
someone who knew how to play that
media very well, Trump, it actually

1974
02:32:31.360 --> 02:32:37.159
allowed this movement to grow rapidly,
just like you saw that with Brexit,

1975
02:32:37.200 --> 02:32:41.319
and so in many ways, even
the sort of even the centralized technologies did

1976
02:32:41.680 --> 02:32:46.440
actually open things up. What you
saw was a sharp reaction where they realized

1977
02:32:46.719 --> 02:32:48.440
we're a very political group, realized
they needed to get control of these and

1978
02:32:48.479 --> 02:32:52.920
they needed to impose censorship. But
then you've had fighting back. I mean,

1979
02:32:52.000 --> 02:32:58.719
Elon buying Twitter has certainly been a
I think a major blow to the

1980
02:32:58.719 --> 02:33:01.799
censorship resine. I don't know that. I don't know how long Twitter is

1981
02:33:01.799 --> 02:33:05.040
going to remain open. I don't
know exactly how it plays out. I

1982
02:33:05.040 --> 02:33:07.959
think there's very good reasons why.
I think there's very good reasons why Elon

1983
02:33:09.719 --> 02:33:15.360
will have to and I believe he
realizes this. He will have to go

1984
02:33:15.399 --> 02:33:20.159
to war with the regime fundamentally,
or he will never achieve his goals if

1985
02:33:20.200 --> 02:33:26.360
he has to impose if he has
to impose dei HR policies, he's never

1986
02:33:26.399 --> 02:33:28.760
going to get to Mars. And
he knows that, So I think there's

1987
02:33:28.760 --> 02:33:33.200
a reason that there's a reason for
optimism, whether or not sort of his

1988
02:33:33.360 --> 02:33:37.079
vision would fully aligned with minus another
question. But there's going to be people

1989
02:33:37.319 --> 02:33:41.559
who are going to recognize that they
need to push back and effectively control of

1990
02:33:41.600 --> 02:33:46.040
one of these digital platforms is almost
sort of monarchical in position. I mean,

1991
02:33:46.040 --> 02:33:50.879
he is acting as a sort of
monarch of Twitter. He took control

1992
02:33:50.920 --> 02:33:56.559
of what was essentially a digital government
and meaningfully changed its policy. Now what

1993
02:33:56.680 --> 02:34:01.920
is going to change the direction of
things? Here's sort of the fundamental resource

1994
02:34:01.920 --> 02:34:05.319
that I see when I look at
it is we are becoming a low trust

1995
02:34:05.319 --> 02:34:07.840
society in many ways. I mean, you look at the trend. I

1996
02:34:07.879 --> 02:34:11.680
spent a long time outside. I
spent a year visiting sixty five countries around

1997
02:34:11.680 --> 02:34:16.040
the world in twenty fifteen, talking
to it, had hundreds of meetings,

1998
02:34:16.360 --> 02:34:20.879
really trying to get a sense of
global patterns, global trends, and what

1999
02:34:20.920 --> 02:34:24.959
I saw was really, more than
anything, sort of what the dynamics you

2000
02:34:26.000 --> 02:34:31.000
see in low trust societies were.
And the distressing thing is you're seeing trends

2001
02:34:31.280 --> 02:34:35.120
in America that are in the same
direction. So in a world like that,

2002
02:34:35.159 --> 02:34:39.479
people no longer trust institutions increasingly,
that means they don't trust the truth

2003
02:34:39.520 --> 02:34:43.959
that comes out of universities. It'll
be I think, a slower process,

2004
02:34:43.959 --> 02:34:48.879
but they won't trust the credentials of
those universities. Print they certainly don't trust

2005
02:34:48.920 --> 02:34:54.200
government armorers of truth. Increasingly they
honestly even trust the big centralized platforms.

2006
02:34:54.440 --> 02:34:56.840
And there's also sort of the collapse
of trust at the basic level, like

2007
02:34:56.920 --> 02:35:01.879
just less confidence that some sort of
stranger you do business with is going to

2008
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follow through, is going to be
competent. So what does that mean.

2009
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It means that trust is going to
be scarce. And so the way I

2010
02:35:09.639 --> 02:35:18.360
look at it is we Christian conservatives
particularly have communities often organized around churches.

2011
02:35:18.479 --> 02:35:24.319
Church communities there remain sort of distinct
higher trust communities where they have a different

2012
02:35:24.319 --> 02:35:28.559
set of norms, they reject some
of the dynamics that are driving this job.

2013
02:35:28.680 --> 02:35:35.440
In many cases, they just continue
to they continue to build relationships and

2014
02:35:35.799 --> 02:35:39.559
community in a way that is increasingly
scarce in anatomized world. And so these

2015
02:35:39.600 --> 02:35:45.079
communities now have something that is going
to become scarcer and scarcer and more valuable

2016
02:35:45.079 --> 02:35:50.239
in society. And that is how
exactly things play out is harder to predict.

2017
02:35:50.239 --> 02:35:54.520
But that is an asset that we
can recognize is going to become more

2018
02:35:54.520 --> 02:35:58.079
and more strategically valuable. It's going
to become more and more valuable for ourselves.

2019
02:35:58.280 --> 02:36:01.319
Meaning the more we're able to force
away from these mainstream trends, the

2020
02:36:01.399 --> 02:36:05.079
more we'll be able to continue to
do business as you would in a high

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02:36:05.079 --> 02:36:09.000
trust society. Right, Let's say
in a low trust society, you could

2022
02:36:09.040 --> 02:36:11.559
never call a contractor and just kind
of getting the job done. For most

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02:36:11.600 --> 02:36:16.239
of the world, you wouldn't dream
of putting down a twenty thousand dollars deposit

2024
02:36:16.280 --> 02:36:18.920
for one hundred thousand dollars job before
the work's been done. I mean,

2025
02:36:18.959 --> 02:36:22.360
the assumption is you'd never see the
guy again. But if you're able to

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02:36:22.360 --> 02:36:26.639
get a recommendation through your church and
you know that person as a member in

2027
02:36:26.680 --> 02:36:30.719
good standing, they value that membership
could be very different. That person now

2028
02:36:30.760 --> 02:36:33.040
has a lot more incentives to maintain
a different set of norms. They have

2029
02:36:33.079 --> 02:36:39.479
an ethical foundation that's no longer common
in society to maintain it, so it

2030
02:36:39.559 --> 02:36:43.959
lets us preserve our way of life
sort of in parallel in these parallel networks.

2031
02:36:43.360 --> 02:36:48.200
But even more that now serves as
the foundation for something that others in

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02:36:48.280 --> 02:36:54.159
society are going to value more and
more. So example I give is back

2033
02:36:54.159 --> 02:36:58.959
in the seventeenth century, the Quakers
were famously high trust in England in a

2034
02:36:58.959 --> 02:37:01.840
world that was lower trust, so
many many people wanted to do business with

2035
02:37:01.879 --> 02:37:07.040
them as intermediaries. If you're doing
a high transaction that requires a lot of

2036
02:37:07.079 --> 02:37:11.559
trust, you want to do it
through people you know can be trusted to

2037
02:37:11.600 --> 02:37:13.840
follow through on their work. And
if it's complex transaction, you really need

2038
02:37:15.040 --> 02:37:20.440
sort of multiples of those people involved. And our communities can serve as repositories

2039
02:37:20.440 --> 02:37:26.920
of trust that I think will increasingly
be sought out for these high trust intermediary

2040
02:37:28.040 --> 02:37:33.200
roles as that becomes scarcer elsewhere.
So if I'm thinking of the nature of

2041
02:37:33.319 --> 02:37:39.280
any sort of disruptive platform that that
is a Google buster, it is something

2042
02:37:39.680 --> 02:37:43.920
or I won't call it a Google
buster. I'll say it's something as to

2043
02:37:43.959 --> 02:37:46.799
Google what Google might have been to
the more powerful companies in the past.

2044
02:37:46.799 --> 02:37:50.319
It's sort of a new platform that
becomes even more powerful, even if it's

2045
02:37:50.319 --> 02:37:54.120
in a different domain. That's going
to be what it builds up. It's

2046
02:37:54.120 --> 02:37:58.319
going to be building on communities like
that it's going to be leveraging that trust,

2047
02:37:58.319 --> 02:38:01.319
and it's going to be providing them
the tools to really leverage that trust

2048
02:38:01.760 --> 02:38:07.799
to play a broader role in society
as more people seek them out. Yeah,

2049
02:38:07.799 --> 02:38:11.399
that's very important. I think if
they anomize us to it seems like

2050
02:38:11.799 --> 02:38:16.879
if we look at their strategy to
control people, it is to isolate each

2051
02:38:16.959 --> 02:38:22.120
and every one of us so that
we are only connected to them and to

2052
02:38:22.200 --> 02:38:24.959
keep us from making connections to each
other. So it seems to me like

2053
02:38:24.200 --> 02:38:28.440
that kind of community, that kind
of trust, those kind of interpersonal relationships,

2054
02:38:28.600 --> 02:38:33.760
anything that can facilitate that is anesthetical
to what they're trying to do in

2055
02:38:33.840 --> 02:38:39.000
terms of centralized control. Right absolutely, And I think the centralized thing is

2056
02:38:39.000 --> 02:38:43.239
the centralized thing is a key question. If it's highly centralized, then you

2057
02:38:43.360 --> 02:38:48.520
essentially rely on algorithmic mediation. So
it's actually interesting even Facebook has changed the

2058
02:38:48.520 --> 02:38:52.079
new speed algorithm, So the new
speed algorithm looks more like the TikTok algorithm,

2059
02:38:52.239 --> 02:38:56.280
which is less of a communal social
algorithm and is much more of a

2060
02:38:56.319 --> 02:39:03.440
sort of individualized entertainment. And I
think that's for any platform that breaks down

2061
02:39:03.479 --> 02:39:07.319
those communities or it doesn't really build
on those communities. That's the invariable trend

2062
02:39:07.440 --> 02:39:09.760
is that they're going to move in
the direction of really that computer being your

2063
02:39:09.799 --> 02:39:15.280
counter party, being intermediary. Whereas
if it's technology, and it can often

2064
02:39:15.319 --> 02:39:20.680
be simpler technology in some ways that
facilitates that serves these people as communities,

2065
02:39:22.000 --> 02:39:26.000
then you're strengthening you're strengthening that community
engagement and the nodes, the centers of

2066
02:39:26.120 --> 02:39:33.040
power are no longer one giant,
centralized algorithm, but they're really the distributed

2067
02:39:33.120 --> 02:39:35.760
communities that exist, and then you
facilitate the sort of the connections needed for

2068
02:39:35.799 --> 02:39:43.159
them to engage in larger scale or
more sophisticated transactions that necessarily go beyond beyond

2069
02:39:43.200 --> 02:39:50.879
that community level. But it's sort
of as necessary rather than sort of attempting

2070
02:39:50.920 --> 02:39:54.559
to pull them as quickly as possible
into that that broad ether, so to

2071
02:39:54.600 --> 02:39:58.000
speak. Yeah, when we would
look at this, we need to understand

2072
02:39:58.000 --> 02:40:03.920
it and we should not be disheartened
by the fact that the institutions are controlled

2073
02:40:03.959 --> 02:40:11.399
by people whose values are anesthetical to
ours because their values are inherently self destructive.

2074
02:40:11.399 --> 02:40:16.280
When you look at ESG and DEI, those are things that don't lead

2075
02:40:16.280 --> 02:40:22.200
to excellence. They cannot sustain themselves. They're you know, they're they're going

2076
02:40:22.280 --> 02:40:26.200
to be those are going to be
the seeds of their destruction. And even

2077
02:40:26.399 --> 02:40:30.680
those types of things, even if
we don't pay attention to the fact that

2078
02:40:30.799 --> 02:40:35.680
as Christians, we've got God on
our side who can do anything that he

2079
02:40:35.760 --> 02:40:37.920
wants to do. That's that's the
key thing. But even when we look

2080
02:40:39.040 --> 02:40:43.479
at at their values and how they
have essentially placed on a pedestal or an

2081
02:40:43.520 --> 02:40:48.159
altar or made a God out of
DEI and E. S. G and

2082
02:40:48.200 --> 02:40:52.280
things like that, that is really
should be heartening to us that that we

2083
02:40:52.280 --> 02:40:56.600
can take this back, and we
can if we strive for excellence and if

2084
02:40:56.639 --> 02:41:01.479
we work for that and if we
have common with that. It's a very

2085
02:41:01.479 --> 02:41:07.200
hopeful situation. We've always had in
the past Christian organizations that would you know,

2086
02:41:07.280 --> 02:41:11.319
Christians would come together in a community
and they would build hospitals, the

2087
02:41:11.440 --> 02:41:16.840
build schools and things like that.
Alexis Detofol when he came, he said,

2088
02:41:16.040 --> 02:41:18.559
this is the thing about America that's
very different. They don't wait for

2089
02:41:18.639 --> 02:41:22.840
the government to do an approach.
They get together, they see a need,

2090
02:41:22.840 --> 02:41:24.200
they get together in the community and
they build it and that's really the

2091
02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:28.520
kind of mindset that we need to
inculcate now, isn't it? Absolutely?

2092
02:41:28.520 --> 02:41:33.000
And I think ultimately we should be
hopeful. I mean, in many ways,

2093
02:41:33.040 --> 02:41:37.799
I think the regime is fragile.
The regime is far more fragile than

2094
02:41:37.799 --> 02:41:43.840
people assume. Yes, they are. They have embraced suicidal ideologies. That

2095
02:41:43.120 --> 02:41:48.959
is limiting their that is limiting their
competence, it's limiting their effectiveness. I

2096
02:41:48.000 --> 02:41:52.600
also, I mean this is sort
of another way of looking at it,

2097
02:41:52.600 --> 02:41:54.760
coming from more of a financial angle. But you look at the Arrest of

2098
02:41:54.799 --> 02:41:58.479
Trump, and you look at other
movies like that, and a lot of

2099
02:41:58.479 --> 02:42:01.600
people would say that a show of
force, that is a that is a

2100
02:42:01.920 --> 02:42:07.440
a regime that is confident enough it
can crack down on its enemies, isn't

2101
02:42:07.440 --> 02:42:11.840
it? I would say, I
would say it's much more like desperation.

2102
02:42:11.920 --> 02:42:15.200
I think that if you think about
it, almost from a financial perspective,

2103
02:42:15.559 --> 02:42:18.280
it's a bigger departure from the past. It's sort of an increase in volatility,

2104
02:42:18.319 --> 02:42:22.319
so you think of sort of a
change from norms. I mean,

2105
02:42:22.319 --> 02:42:26.600
they've had a they had what was
seen as sort of a steady progressive trend

2106
02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:31.079
in history sharply interrupted by things like
Trump. You could think of that as

2107
02:42:31.079 --> 02:42:35.520
sort of a higher volatility in politics, a much broader range of of sort

2108
02:42:35.559 --> 02:42:41.120
of possible outcomes. And there's certainly, in many ways, they seem in

2109
02:42:41.159 --> 02:42:45.319
control of many things right now,
and they're more and more sharply departing from

2110
02:42:45.440 --> 02:42:50.840
norms. But when volatility increases,
it doesn't mean that it just increases in

2111
02:42:50.879 --> 02:42:56.079
one direction. Like the range of
potential outcomes grows in both directions. And

2112
02:42:56.120 --> 02:43:00.440
so I look at h I look
at things like the arrest of I look

2113
02:43:00.440 --> 02:43:03.520
at other things like that, and
that is a that is a bigger and

2114
02:43:03.520 --> 02:43:09.760
bigger departure from norms that ultimately just
sort of objectively increases the range of possible

2115
02:43:09.760 --> 02:43:13.799
outcomes in both directions. And that's
not the move of a that's not the

2116
02:43:13.840 --> 02:43:18.399
move of a stable, self confident
regime. A stable self confident regime is

2117
02:43:18.440 --> 02:43:22.840
not they're going to want to sort
of slowly and carefully move in their direction

2118
02:43:22.959 --> 02:43:26.360
and not do anything that sort of
rocks the boat, because if you're in

2119
02:43:26.399 --> 02:43:28.920
control, you don't want to rock
the boat. No, that is that

2120
02:43:28.040 --> 02:43:33.239
is that is people who feel desperation, and it's people who ultimately I think

2121
02:43:33.680 --> 02:43:41.120
are setting the stage for for greater
volatility that could very quickly. I think

2122
02:43:41.200 --> 02:43:46.520
they know their own weakness in some
ways, and they're actually accelerating things that

2123
02:43:46.600 --> 02:43:48.520
could lead to their own demise.
You know, when you talk about your

2124
02:43:48.719 --> 02:43:52.719
on your website, when you say
about our firm, you say, we

2125
02:43:52.799 --> 02:43:58.840
explicitly opposed DEI, E. S. G, and the bureaucetization of American

2126
02:43:58.879 --> 02:44:01.479
business culture. And I think again, as we talk about the fact that

2127
02:44:01.559 --> 02:44:07.959
DEI and SG is about denying merit
and sows the seeds of its own destruction,

2128
02:44:09.319 --> 02:44:11.280
the same thing is true of bureaucracies
as well. In central planning.

2129
02:44:11.799 --> 02:44:16.920
We have always been able in the
past. America has been able to transcend

2130
02:44:16.440 --> 02:44:22.520
these centrally planned economies. If we
look at North versus South Korea, one

2131
02:44:22.559 --> 02:44:26.760
country split, same people, same
background, but a different system, one

2132
02:44:26.760 --> 02:44:31.680
that is tightly centrally controlled and bureaucratic. The same thing with East and West

2133
02:44:31.799 --> 02:44:37.600
Germany. And so we know that
having something that has decentralized, something that

2134
02:44:37.840 --> 02:44:41.440
is based on merit, not bureaucracy, and that type of thing, we

2135
02:44:41.479 --> 02:44:46.120
know that that's a winning position,
and so that should be a very hopeful

2136
02:44:46.200 --> 02:44:50.639
thing. You say you promote a
culture of entrepreneurship and excellence, betting on

2137
02:44:50.040 --> 02:44:56.319
great companies and products and customers discovered
by corrosive ideologies. It's a very hopeful

2138
02:44:56.319 --> 02:45:01.399
strategy, I think, and talk
to us a little bit about what you

2139
02:45:01.440 --> 02:45:05.680
see in terms of you know,
let's talk about a disruptive technology that is

2140
02:45:05.719 --> 02:45:09.239
teetering. It could go either way, and that is cryptocurrency. You know,

2141
02:45:09.280 --> 02:45:13.879
we have the CBDC, which is
a big specter of complete and total

2142
02:45:15.360 --> 02:45:20.200
surveillance and control of everything that we
do, and they have a targeted cryptocurrency

2143
02:45:20.200 --> 02:45:26.280
for extinction. But then there's other
aspects of the blockchain that perhaps might be

2144
02:45:26.799 --> 02:45:31.000
used. How do you see that
developing? So it's a good question.

2145
02:45:31.120 --> 02:45:35.639
I think that is I'm very interested
in blockchain. I'm probably in some ways,

2146
02:45:35.680 --> 02:45:39.600
I'm probably more interested in it than
AI because I think that it is

2147
02:45:39.920 --> 02:45:48.920
it is particularly focused on it's particularly
focused on targeting many of the centers of

2148
02:45:48.120 --> 02:45:52.079
regime control. I mean, you
think a bitcoin and it is directly challenging

2149
02:45:52.280 --> 02:46:00.440
a control of the currency, which
is ultimately probably the strongest source of UH

2150
02:46:00.959 --> 02:46:07.879
present regime power. And it's uh, I'm optimistic. I think that I

2151
02:46:07.920 --> 02:46:15.120
think that bitcoin is an incredibly powerful
technology. Uh, it's it's certainly one

2152
02:46:15.200 --> 02:46:18.680
that has I think it doesn't just
have the technical promise, and there's obviously

2153
02:46:18.760 --> 02:46:22.879
always stuff that needs to be worked
out in sort of the technology of any

2154
02:46:22.879 --> 02:46:26.559
of these things that at an earlier
stage. But it also has a culture

2155
02:46:26.600 --> 02:46:30.319
that I think aligns with intends to
draw the sort of people who are who

2156
02:46:30.360 --> 02:46:33.639
are skeptics of the central control.
And it's it's it's by nature international.

2157
02:46:33.719 --> 02:46:37.920
So the more international something like that
is, the uh, the harder it

2158
02:46:37.959 --> 02:46:41.360
is for it to be stamped out
in any one location. So I look

2159
02:46:41.399 --> 02:46:43.239
at that, and I see that, and I think that a lot of

2160
02:46:43.040 --> 02:46:46.559
the attacks on it are just spurious. I mean they say that it can

2161
02:46:46.600 --> 02:46:50.920
be used for criminal activity or whatever, but it's it's traceable. It's actually

2162
02:46:52.239 --> 02:46:58.239
I mean, the US bundles of
cash are far more effective for money loan

2163
02:46:58.680 --> 02:47:03.239
than bitcoint is. It's uh,
what it really is is it's not about

2164
02:47:03.760 --> 02:47:07.559
it's not about secrecy or anything.
It's about, Uh, it's about not

2165
02:47:07.799 --> 02:47:13.040
being something that can be arbitrarily shut
down by financial institutions that are increasingly politicized,

2166
02:47:13.639 --> 02:47:18.360
not being something that can be sort
of systematically taxed and debased. UH.

2167
02:47:18.399 --> 02:47:20.840
So I look at that and I
see a lot of potential. I

2168
02:47:20.879 --> 02:47:24.879
see a lot of excitement in the
community. I see a lot of very

2169
02:47:24.920 --> 02:47:30.920
serious people, serious thinkers, doing
very serious things in the bitcoin world and

2170
02:47:31.120 --> 02:47:37.120
UH and increasingly, UH there's there's
evident political UH pressure that pushes back against

2171
02:47:37.159 --> 02:47:41.920
the UH really against the regulators who
want to shut it down. I mean,

2172
02:47:43.200 --> 02:47:46.360
people know that a CBDC is something
that can be a powerful tool for

2173
02:47:46.719 --> 02:47:54.799
UH for essentially just increasing increasing the
totalitarian capability of the current system. UH.

2174
02:47:54.879 --> 02:48:00.319
That is not something that's just going
to be let in easily in the

2175
02:48:00.799 --> 02:48:03.120
mood there. So I look at
it. I see obviously it could be

2176
02:48:03.239 --> 02:48:09.440
used. Some of these things could
be used for They could be used for

2177
02:48:09.680 --> 02:48:15.959
harming us. But the vast majority
of the space is really culturally aligned and

2178
02:48:16.319 --> 02:48:20.200
I think technologically aligned with directionally where
we need to go. That's true.

2179
02:48:20.280 --> 02:48:24.319
Yeah, yeah, it does have
some issues with privacy that people don't realize.

2180
02:48:24.079 --> 02:48:28.680
And but like you said, culturally
and technically, you know, culturally

2181
02:48:28.760 --> 02:48:33.399
they're aligned with us in many ways
in terms of decentralization and liberty, and

2182
02:48:33.479 --> 02:48:37.440
there are some things that we can
use in that space. What would you

2183
02:48:37.479 --> 02:48:41.959
say, to the Christian Right as
a movement, what needs to change and

2184
02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:48.440
the way we approach things in our
perspective in order to win whatever that means,

2185
02:48:48.920 --> 02:48:52.000
win the culture. I think part
part of it is actually try.

2186
02:48:52.120 --> 02:48:54.040
I mean, I think one big
problem, so one big challenge in the

2187
02:48:54.120 --> 02:49:01.399
Christian Right is they've been politically neutered
in many I think, accepted theologies that

2188
02:49:01.639 --> 02:49:07.479
are intentionally politically neuterting. So you
look at a lot of and there's a

2189
02:49:07.479 --> 02:49:09.319
lot of different things you can tie
us to. I mean, I would

2190
02:49:09.319 --> 02:49:13.799
say a pessimistic eschatology can lead to
a mindset where you just put your head

2191
02:49:13.840 --> 02:49:16.959
down and kind of expect things are
going to get worse. And it's one

2192
02:49:16.959 --> 02:49:22.079
that ultimately is very undermining a human
agency because you don't you don't only have

2193
02:49:22.120 --> 02:49:28.000
the belief in the effectiveness of your
actions. But second of all, even

2194
02:49:28.040 --> 02:49:33.799
aside from that, I think most
Christians intuitively recognize that there's a problem here

2195
02:49:33.840 --> 02:49:37.079
and then they want it to change, Realize that we can be effective,

2196
02:49:37.479 --> 02:49:45.040
realize our numbers, realize that ultimately
this is a war that we're in.

2197
02:49:45.079 --> 02:49:46.639
I mean, you have a lot
of people who I think would be very

2198
02:49:46.799 --> 02:49:52.200
patriotic about signing up increasingly. I
think that these people have been alienated by

2199
02:49:52.200 --> 02:49:56.120
the military, but they wouldn't have
hesitated to pick up arms and make great

2200
02:49:56.159 --> 02:50:01.799
sacrifices to fight for the defense of
the country. But otherwise are fairly uninterested

2201
02:50:01.840 --> 02:50:05.120
in politics. I mean, a
lot of Christians really may be aside from

2202
02:50:05.200 --> 02:50:09.639
the exception of abortion, just really
are not very interested in politics, are

2203
02:50:09.719 --> 02:50:13.399
not very focused on politics. You
homeschool, let's say, or you go

2204
02:50:13.399 --> 02:50:16.840
to Christian school, so you're not
really interested in what happens to the school

2205
02:50:16.840 --> 02:50:20.399
board. Well, you're paying for
it, and it's educating the people who

2206
02:50:20.440 --> 02:50:24.520
you're who are going to be co
workers or employers or whatever, so we

2207
02:50:24.559 --> 02:50:26.479
should care about it. It's going
to shape the culture of the town that

2208
02:50:26.479 --> 02:50:31.040
someone lives in, So we should
care about all of those things. And

2209
02:50:31.120 --> 02:50:35.159
we should recognize that we have we
have real numbers here, and we have

2210
02:50:35.520 --> 02:50:39.840
real eye I think, a real
foundation. This is what American reformers trying

2211
02:50:39.840 --> 02:50:46.440
to do is sort of restore the
foundation that that makes clear how Christian doctrine

2212
02:50:46.479 --> 02:50:50.239
speaks to any number of institutions.
It has clear visions not just of abortion,

2213
02:50:50.399 --> 02:50:54.360
but how you should think about all
sorts of issues around what government should

2214
02:50:54.399 --> 02:50:58.239
ideally be doing, and how government
should be, how government should be approaching

2215
02:50:58.280 --> 02:51:01.680
things, So get political would be
one of the top ones. And then

2216
02:51:01.719 --> 02:51:05.719
second of all, embrace a positive
vision. I think this is a big

2217
02:51:05.719 --> 02:51:09.200
thing is if we're a conservative.
I mean, my view is a conservative

2218
02:51:09.200 --> 02:51:13.120
impulse is a good impulse. It's
a prudent impulse in a world where we

2219
02:51:13.200 --> 02:51:16.040
recognize that man as fall If we
recognize we're fallen, we're wise not to

2220
02:51:16.120 --> 02:51:22.360
sort of recklessly go and try to
just constantly change everything from the ground up.

2221
02:51:22.399 --> 02:51:26.360
Like that should be there, But
we should also have Christians who are

2222
02:51:26.399 --> 02:51:30.680
part of the vanguard, who are
pushing out a positive vision, who are

2223
02:51:30.680 --> 02:51:33.200
really aspiring for what we should build
it. You actually do see a lot

2224
02:51:33.200 --> 02:51:39.399
of these people in the crypto world, and I think that we need a

2225
02:51:39.399 --> 02:51:43.639
lot more. I mean, if
Christians are some people are I think temperamentally

2226
02:51:43.680 --> 02:51:48.159
going to be conservative. They are
just naturally they want to focus on that

2227
02:51:48.280 --> 02:51:52.600
type of thing. That's great,
but that doesn't need to be the defining

2228
02:51:52.680 --> 02:51:56.479
identity of our movement. The defining
identity of our movement should be a positive

2229
02:51:56.559 --> 02:52:03.079
vision for how society should be organized. That is a sharp, very clear,

2230
02:52:03.239 --> 02:52:05.440
and ultimately I think much more attractive. Alternative to what the left puts

2231
02:52:05.440 --> 02:52:09.120
out there is their vision of progress. So they defined progress their way.

2232
02:52:09.479 --> 02:52:15.040
We should be defining what an elevated
vision of society. I don't I don't

2233
02:52:15.040 --> 02:52:16.879
know that I would embrace the word
progress. I think that has a particular

2234
02:52:18.319 --> 02:52:22.520
uh, there's a particular sort of
framework called they've kind of stolen that word,

2235
02:52:22.639 --> 02:52:26.719
just like they stole the word liberal
liberal used to liberated people. It's

2236
02:52:26.760 --> 02:52:30.719
an open question whether we whether we
believe that, whether it's I don't know

2237
02:52:30.719 --> 02:52:33.440
that I would think of it even
necessarily in terms of progress, because I

2238
02:52:33.440 --> 02:52:37.959
don't believe that history moves in one
direction so much as we certainly have a

2239
02:52:37.040 --> 02:52:41.520
vision of sort of what an elevated
vision of life looks like, what is

2240
02:52:41.520 --> 02:52:45.120
a higher what is a sort of
higher vision of society or a lower vision

2241
02:52:45.159 --> 02:52:50.079
of society at the very least,
and we should be we should be painting

2242
02:52:50.120 --> 02:52:54.159
pictures of what the elevated vision looks
like and rallying people to uh, to

2243
02:52:54.239 --> 02:52:58.799
go create that. I agree as
one person said, I forget it was

2244
02:52:58.879 --> 02:53:01.399
that said that you can't win a
culture where if you don't have a culture,

2245
02:53:01.000 --> 02:53:05.559
and we have retreated from this.
We are shamed of what our beliefs

2246
02:53:05.559 --> 02:53:09.799
are because we've been criticized, and
we have a very compelling vision, and

2247
02:53:09.840 --> 02:53:13.319
we should be looking at ways that
we can move that forward, that we

2248
02:53:13.360 --> 02:53:18.079
could project that out, explain it
to people. It is not a threatening

2249
02:53:18.680 --> 02:53:24.239
vision to people. It's quite frankly, their centralized control vision is a very

2250
02:53:24.280 --> 02:53:28.159
threatening thing. And I think one
of the things that we can learn from

2251
02:53:28.200 --> 02:53:31.200
the left. Get your opinion on
this, seems like the left has a

2252
02:53:31.360 --> 02:53:39.040
very They've got their set of values
and they don't and their values based really

2253
02:53:39.280 --> 02:53:43.079
I don't agree with their values,
but they push those values out, whereas

2254
02:53:43.120 --> 02:53:46.079
we say, well, just don't
change anything. I just don't want to

2255
02:53:46.079 --> 02:53:50.879
see any change here. And if
we have values, we're not trying to

2256
02:53:52.000 --> 02:53:56.040
advance those values as the left is. We're just trying to keep things from

2257
02:53:56.120 --> 02:54:00.600
changing. That's a conservative perspective.
Whereas we need to go on the offense

2258
02:54:01.159 --> 02:54:03.920
and we need to say these are
a values, these are why these values

2259
02:54:03.959 --> 02:54:07.840
are good, and then how are
we going to best establish these values?

2260
02:54:07.840 --> 02:54:11.440
And I think unless we do that, we're going to lose. And we've

2261
02:54:11.479 --> 02:54:15.600
been losing because we've not been doing
that. I think we have to have

2262
02:54:15.639 --> 02:54:18.120
that vision, project that vision,
work on that vision, and try to

2263
02:54:18.159 --> 02:54:20.719
push that forward, which is what
the left does, but we don't do

2264
02:54:20.879 --> 02:54:26.120
that as conservatives, and clearly,
you know the conservatives, that's really kind

2265
02:54:26.120 --> 02:54:28.959
of a political position. That's why
I think it's very important for us to

2266
02:54:28.000 --> 02:54:35.559
look at this from a Christian position
because they have principles we have as Christians,

2267
02:54:35.559 --> 02:54:39.159
we have principles and things that we
want to advance, and you have

2268
02:54:39.200 --> 02:54:43.040
to have that. You have to
have some standard that you're going to try

2269
02:54:43.040 --> 02:54:46.440
to advance. Think of it as
a flag or whatever, you know,

2270
02:54:46.760 --> 02:54:50.680
that type of standard that's going to
advance what we want to see our culture

2271
02:54:50.760 --> 02:54:54.200
look like and work on that.
I think. I think that's what you're

2272
02:54:54.239 --> 02:54:56.399
doing, absolutely, and it's a
self confidence that goes with that. I

2273
02:54:56.399 --> 02:55:01.079
think that's a huge part of it. I think the self confidence to know

2274
02:55:01.200 --> 02:55:03.719
that your values are better than the
other side, that in many cases we

2275
02:55:03.799 --> 02:55:07.319
know that it is the truth,
We know that we have the truth.

2276
02:55:07.719 --> 02:55:09.840
And I think education is a great
place to look at this. Look at

2277
02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:15.479
a lot of Christian colleges and they
have a sort of palpable inferiority complex.

2278
02:55:15.559 --> 02:55:22.000
They covet the endorsement of institutions like
Harford. Yeah, and you look at

2279
02:55:22.000 --> 02:55:26.680
institutions like Harvard, and Harvard does
not know. Harvard does not know what

2280
02:55:26.799 --> 02:55:30.559
truth means. They do not know
what an education means anymore. As an

2281
02:55:30.559 --> 02:55:35.639
institution, they become so disconnected.
I mean, Yale has a professor like

2282
02:55:35.760 --> 02:55:39.719
Jason Stanley in their philosophy department.
Totally ridiculous, guy, I mean,

2283
02:55:39.799 --> 02:55:45.479
just comically ignorant by any standard of
history, any sort of standard of education.

2284
02:55:45.760 --> 02:55:48.000
And he's in a philosophy to heartment. So why do you want Yale's

2285
02:55:48.000 --> 02:55:52.799
approval? The right approach would be
it could be a small college, but

2286
02:55:52.840 --> 02:55:58.159
they could express they should be expressing
contempt for these institutions and really very self

2287
02:55:58.159 --> 02:56:01.680
confidently saying if no one else knows
how to truth, will define our own

2288
02:56:01.760 --> 02:56:05.239
standard. We understand truth better than
anyone else out here. We understand what

2289
02:56:05.280 --> 02:56:07.040
an education means. So we're going
to be our own judge. We're not

2290
02:56:07.040 --> 02:56:11.000
going to brag out how many graduates
we get into Harvard grad programs, or

2291
02:56:11.040 --> 02:56:13.840
how many sort of prestigious degrees our
faculty have, when when all that means

2292
02:56:13.920 --> 02:56:18.920
is you're really submitting to the standards
of people who don't even know what an

2293
02:56:18.000 --> 02:56:24.639
education means. So I think there's
that self confidence is really a an absolutely

2294
02:56:24.680 --> 02:56:31.239
crucial position, and it comes from
knowing that our values, knowing that we

2295
02:56:31.319 --> 02:56:35.520
are right, knowing that we have
the better vision of life, which increasingly

2296
02:56:35.600 --> 02:56:37.319
all you have to do is look
at the left. I think for a

2297
02:56:37.360 --> 02:56:43.040
while, for a long time,
the left did seem to have things that

2298
02:56:43.079 --> 02:56:46.040
were more exciting, things that were
more more attractive. In many ways,

2299
02:56:46.280 --> 02:56:50.239
I think part of that was sort
of an appdication of the part of conservatives.

2300
02:56:50.280 --> 02:56:52.959
Part of it was just where they
were in their their art. There

2301
02:56:52.959 --> 02:56:56.280
were sort of some bakeding values.
But really at this point, I mean,

2302
02:56:56.760 --> 02:57:00.520
you look at what DEI is putting
out and it's literally ugly. Yeah,

2303
02:57:01.079 --> 02:57:03.840
and you look at these people.
There's a great deal of hubris that

2304
02:57:03.879 --> 02:57:07.840
they have, and they act as
if they are one hundred percent right,

2305
02:57:07.920 --> 02:57:11.600
and yet you know that they know
that they're not right, because they won't

2306
02:57:11.040 --> 02:57:15.159
engage you in debate. As you
pointed out, you know, it's an

2307
02:57:15.200 --> 02:57:18.239
act of desperation, you know when
you look at politics there and when they

2308
02:57:18.280 --> 02:57:22.440
try to they don't want to engage
in debate. They want to just shut

2309
02:57:22.520 --> 02:57:26.799
down and cancel everything. And we
see this whenever you go up and engage

2310
02:57:26.840 --> 02:57:30.840
them at a protest, you say, well, what are you protesting?

2311
02:57:30.920 --> 02:57:33.079
Please? Are you're racist? You
know? They just start throwing fithets at

2312
02:57:33.159 --> 02:57:37.440
you. They don't want to defend
their position. They don't want to debate

2313
02:57:37.479 --> 02:57:41.600
what you have to say, which
is really coming from a position of deep

2314
02:57:41.639 --> 02:57:48.159
insecurity and desperation. And so we
need to understand that even though the facade

2315
02:57:48.200 --> 02:57:54.479
that they present is one of arrogance
and complete confidence, that on the inside

2316
02:57:54.600 --> 02:57:58.079
they don't have that at all,
and so there is a vulnerability there,

2317
02:57:58.319 --> 02:58:01.000
and so we need to work on
what we need to understand in terms of

2318
02:58:01.000 --> 02:58:05.920
our foundation, I think, and
then once we have, once we are

2319
02:58:07.000 --> 02:58:13.000
confident unlike them internally, and once
we're confident in our position with God,

2320
02:58:13.200 --> 02:58:16.799
then that's a foundation on which we
can stand and conquer. And we should

2321
02:58:16.360 --> 02:58:22.319
move from that and project those values
out to other people that trying to control

2322
02:58:22.399 --> 02:58:24.879
them, without making any mandates on
them. But we hold it out there

2323
02:58:24.920 --> 02:58:30.440
as a standard to be achieved.
And that's the way that Christian society has

2324
02:58:30.440 --> 02:58:33.600
always advanced in the past, I
believe. Yeah, well, I will

2325
02:58:33.639 --> 02:58:37.959
say to some extent, there are
areas where there's no neutrality, and I

2326
02:58:37.000 --> 02:58:41.520
think that's actually that's an important one
too. So if you ask me what

2327
02:58:41.559 --> 02:58:45.239
I would say about Christians, we've
been conservative, but we've also sort of,

2328
02:58:45.319 --> 02:58:48.879
at best thought, bought for a
neutral public square in the We bought

2329
02:58:48.879 --> 02:58:54.360
into a lot of the assumptions in
the twentieth century of secularism, which are

2330
02:58:54.360 --> 02:58:56.959
totally out of stuck with American history, where there was no there was no

2331
02:58:58.000 --> 02:59:01.760
sense that you'd have a sort of
public scare square cleansed of God, for

2332
02:59:01.799 --> 02:59:03.879
instance. And what I think is
actually happening in the digital age, and

2333
02:59:03.879 --> 02:59:07.360
this is interesting, is you're starting
to see people realize there is no neutrality.

2334
02:59:07.879 --> 02:59:11.399
The left realized is ahead of us. So this goes to going back

2335
02:59:11.440 --> 02:59:15.920
to the Facebook example. After the
face, let's say the Facebook algorithms played

2336
02:59:15.920 --> 02:59:22.399
a role in elevating pro Trump content, amplifying pro Trump content that helped elect

2337
02:59:22.440 --> 02:59:26.399
Trump. People realize that there's no
neutrality. I mean, you have an

2338
02:59:26.440 --> 02:59:31.200
algorithm that gives people what they want
to see, this engagement that's not neutral,

2339
02:59:31.360 --> 02:59:35.639
that is going to advance a certain
type of content. The left certainly

2340
02:59:35.680 --> 02:59:39.479
wanted to impose their own values.
But you particularly you think of the nature

2341
02:59:39.520 --> 02:59:43.479
of an algorithmic feed itself, and
by its very nature, its job is

2342
02:59:43.520 --> 02:59:46.399
to rank and curate things for you. If you look at Google, go

2343
02:59:46.440 --> 02:59:48.079
to Google, you type in a
search term, you have a number one

2344
02:59:48.079 --> 02:59:50.760
search result, you have number two, search result, number ten, et

2345
02:59:50.840 --> 02:59:58.159
cetera. There must be a value
system within Google about why one is better

2346
02:59:58.200 --> 03:00:01.200
than two. That cannot be the
There's no neutrality there. I mean,

2347
03:00:01.239 --> 03:00:05.280
you go type in the search term
is Jesus God, and ultimately a search

2348
03:00:05.280 --> 03:00:09.840
engine condenses things. The top result
either says yes or no. There's no

2349
03:00:11.600 --> 03:00:16.319
there's no possibility in the sort of
greatest summarized version of it for neutrality there.

2350
03:00:16.719 --> 03:00:22.680
And I think as people realize,
as the left realizes that, they

2351
03:00:22.680 --> 03:00:26.040
realize you have to catechize the boy, becomes a religious war to catechise the

2352
03:00:26.040 --> 03:00:30.360
body. So in many cases,
I think of the digital algorithms as equivalent

2353
03:00:30.399 --> 03:00:35.719
to the sort of norms in society
where we may have had a strong tradition

2354
03:00:35.799 --> 03:00:37.760
of toleration. I think the angle
of world has had a very strong tradition

2355
03:00:37.840 --> 03:00:43.159
of religious toleration, but there's still
the sort of norms and customs throughout society

2356
03:00:43.200 --> 03:00:46.680
that nudge you in certain directions,
that normalize certain beliefs as the sort of

2357
03:00:48.040 --> 03:00:50.920
default or expected belief. And I
think the algorithm, in many ways,

2358
03:00:50.959 --> 03:00:58.559
the algorithmic curation that is going to
shape just all aspects of society fits in

2359
03:00:58.639 --> 03:01:03.600
that and either those norms, those
norms cannot be neutral. Either they either

2360
03:01:03.639 --> 03:01:07.399
they reflect Christian truth or they reflect
some other set of values. So I

2361
03:01:07.440 --> 03:01:13.920
think I think it'll be helpful actually
for Christians to move beyond simply fighting for

2362
03:01:15.040 --> 03:01:20.760
neutrality and actually realize that in many
of these domains we should be fighting for

2363
03:01:20.799 --> 03:01:24.040
the truth. We should have confidence
in the truth well enough to fight for

2364
03:01:24.120 --> 03:01:26.200
it. And there isn't going to
be neutral. So if we try to

2365
03:01:26.239 --> 03:01:28.280
leave it neutral, it's just gonna
be filled by It's gonna be filled by

2366
03:01:28.440 --> 03:01:31.760
an ideology that is not ours,
and it is invariably going to be hostile

2367
03:01:31.760 --> 03:01:35.479
to us. I agree, Yeah, I think neutrality is alive when you're

2368
03:01:35.479 --> 03:01:39.680
talking about education, when we're talking
about journalism and that type of thing beyond

2369
03:01:39.920 --> 03:01:45.040
Google. They take a look at
Matt Drudge. He is aggregating the news.

2370
03:01:45.079 --> 03:01:46.840
And I've said this from the beginning. The whole idea that they keep

2371
03:01:46.879 --> 03:01:50.639
trying to sell people. It's like, oh, we're completely neutral. Well,

2372
03:01:50.879 --> 03:01:54.000
if you believe that in terms of
being a journalist, then you're either

2373
03:01:54.440 --> 03:01:58.399
incredibly naive and ignorant yourself unaware of
your biases and prejudice, or you're lying

2374
03:01:58.440 --> 03:02:01.600
to somebody because you really do have
those biases and prejudices, and we can

2375
03:02:01.639 --> 03:02:07.799
see it. And Matt Drudge,
he went from presenting the you know,

2376
03:02:07.840 --> 03:02:11.639
select he doesn't write anything, but
he's got what he selects to show to

2377
03:02:11.680 --> 03:02:16.879
you is either from a conservative bent
or now from a leftist bent. And

2378
03:02:16.319 --> 03:02:20.040
this has always been the case,
is also the case when you look at

2379
03:02:20.920 --> 03:02:24.319
religion in the public square. They
said, we're going to be neutral by

2380
03:02:24.319 --> 03:02:28.600
purging religion out of the neutral out
of the public square. Well that's not

2381
03:02:28.680 --> 03:02:33.040
neutrality. What you're now doing is
you're pushing a religion of secular humanism.

2382
03:02:33.639 --> 03:02:35.079
But I think that you know,
when we when we look at this,

2383
03:02:35.159 --> 03:02:41.920
as you point out, Christianity has
had a history of being tolerant of differences

2384
03:02:41.479 --> 03:02:46.159
but still having very strongly held values
that we hold deer and I think that's

2385
03:02:46.200 --> 03:02:48.399
one of the key things. I
think we have gotten to the point where

2386
03:02:50.719 --> 03:02:56.600
you know, tolerance of different opinions
is really not the value that's holding forth.

2387
03:02:56.840 --> 03:02:58.600
What we're really putting out is the
fact that we're apathetic. We don't

2388
03:02:58.600 --> 03:03:03.239
really care, and so it isn't
that we're tolerant. We just don't care

2389
03:03:03.280 --> 03:03:05.559
anymore about these fundamental values, and
so we have to reclaim those things on

2390
03:03:05.600 --> 03:03:09.600
a personal basis. And then once
we reclaim those things, we will have

2391
03:03:09.639 --> 03:03:13.600
a very firm foundation. It doesn't
necessarily mean we're going to ram those things

2392
03:03:13.680 --> 03:03:16.760
down somebody's throat. Now, if
you have a situation like, for example,

2393
03:03:16.799 --> 03:03:20.040
abortion, there is going to be
a conflict there, and people who

2394
03:03:20.120 --> 03:03:22.040
believe that that is murder, as
I do, are going to do everything

2395
03:03:22.040 --> 03:03:26.000
they can to stop that. But
in most cases it's going to be a

2396
03:03:26.479 --> 03:03:31.760
you know, this is our positivision
of the world, and if you don't

2397
03:03:31.799 --> 03:03:33.680
want to join us, you don't
have to join us. But we're going

2398
03:03:33.760 --> 03:03:35.719
to do this. And I think
that's a key part of what you're trying

2399
03:03:35.760 --> 03:03:41.360
to do with the Venture Fund,
is to transcend this kind of decaying society

2400
03:03:41.479 --> 03:03:46.200
that is there. It really is
to me, I look at our society

2401
03:03:46.280 --> 03:03:50.520
right now, looks like a very
big tree that you may not realize it,

2402
03:03:50.559 --> 03:03:52.159
but the entire insides have been eaten
out by a bug and it's just

2403
03:03:52.200 --> 03:03:56.280
waiting for a breeze to come along
and blow the whole thing over on your

2404
03:03:56.280 --> 03:03:58.680
house. That's kind of where I
think where it was society right now.

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I agree, and I think that
I think that what's interesting is more and

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more is going to be that soft
nudging. It is to be edging in

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one direction. And going back to
Google, my favorite, my favorite example,

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ranked search terms. That's not that's
not coercive in the legal sense,

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but it certainly nudges you toward a
particular uh. One result is ranked higher

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than the other one, and people
go there for a reason because, going

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to the idea of Matt Drudge,
it can't be neutral. Neutral. Neutral

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in the age of the Internet is
entirely spam. I mean, you're going

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to be totally inundated by spam.
So you're looking for someone to judge by

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some standard. This is worth my
reading, This is worth my seeing.

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What is that standards that standard of
the truth? Is that standard a particular

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ideology? Is that standard? Something
purely sort of reflexive, like engagement,

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like the more time you spend on
it the better it must be, which

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I think is that's sort of thing
engineers like because it allows them to sort

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of sidestep the questions they really don't
know how to answer. But that points

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to the vulnerability of these companies.
I mean, you go to Google,

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and Google you go there to see
them rank rank websites, presumably looking for

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truth or looking for for something good
or useful. I would argue Google lacks

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the foundation, They lack the epistemological
foundation to actually know how to answer those

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questions. They really don't know how
to distinguish spam from non spam. Ultimately,

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if you don't, if you don't
know how to define what is good,

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then then then what is that is
what distinguishes spam from non spam ultimately,

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and people just spammers just get really
good at sort of playing to the

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algorithm. If you don't have an
objective standard, if it just becomes sort

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of a reflexive one. So I
think a big vulnerability is they lack the

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They lack the ability to actually discriminate
in ways that people are looking for.

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And so increasingly, as as we
have a breakdown of any sort of norms

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and standards in society, you're just
going to see you're going to see a

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degradation of quality in all sorts of
spaces, and that includes a degradation in

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the quality of the goodness of information
out there, the truth value, that

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the moral value. According to even
people who might not see themselves as a

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Christian, they're looking for that.
They still are looking for something that they

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sort of intuitively recognize is good in
many cases. Obviously some are not.

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Some are truly looking for evil,
and platforms that don't know how to provide

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that are not going to be able
to get people what they look, what

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they want, and increasingly they're going
to be They're going to produce dissatisfaction.

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And that is an opportunity for us
to capitalize on and for us to show

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them a better vision, show them
better alternatives. Absolutely, New Founding is

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about building the future, about responding
to market signals from a Christian and conservative

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perspective, about getting around the culture
and promoting a culture of excellence and merit.

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And I think that we need to
understand that we are really in a

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better position than many of us think
because of those values that we hold.

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03:07:13.520 --> 03:07:18.000
The question is how do we implement
those values into new businesses, into new

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systems into new institutions, and I
think new Founding has an important role to

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03:07:22.440 --> 03:07:26.280
play in that. Thank you so
much for joining us, Nate. I

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appreciate it. Thank you very much, Nate Fisher, thank you, Thank

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you for having me. David,
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