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Hey, what's going on? Guys? And welcome back to w w E

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Retro on the WWE podcast on this
Friday, June second. As we are

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five days or six days post um
Clash of Champions rather and I gotta tell

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you, I am super super excited
for SmackDown tonight, not only to see

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the reaction and the fallout from the
USO's Jimmy USO specifically termaining on Roman Reigns

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in the main event of Clash of
Champions, but also to see the newly

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unveiled Wwuniversal Championship that is set to
be unveiled tonight as one singular title if

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I'm not mistaken. As Roman Reigns
starts this new era in a lot of

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ways, this new portion of his
reign now in the one thousand days and

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now seemingly without the full bloodline behind
him. But as we look at Roman

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Reigns and his new era of his
championship run. We're gonna go back today

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and look at the beginning of another
dawn of another championship run, a run

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that was started at SummerSlam two thousand
and four. And before we get into

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that, you know, we're going
to try and look at a bit of

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the setup to this pay per view
and the lay of the land at that

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time. You look at Monday Night
Raw and since WrestleMania twenty six months prior,

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or about five months prior, you
had Chris Benoas as the World Heavyweight

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Champion. He had successfully defended it
against Triple H and Shawn Michaels at the

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Backlash pay per view in an exact
rematch from their WrestleMania main event. You

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had him successfully defended against Kane at
Bad Blood, and this was still into

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Kane's heel version of himself, the
unmasked version of Kane. And on the

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SmackDown side of things, you had
jbl about two months into his run as

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the WWE champion. You had Eddie
Guerrero and Curt Angle rekindling their rivalry that

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started all the way back in the
winter of two thousand and four, and

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you had the Undertaker, who had
only been returned to the WWE in his

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dead man gimmick of himself for about
five months since WrestleMania twenty and the summer

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of two thousand and four, I
gotta tell you, it was a very,

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very crazy time to be a wrestling
fan. And you know, you

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look at all the main event talent
that they had and what they were doing

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with it, and how more impressive
it was given the fact of the guys

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who were missing, you know,
the Rock long gone at this point as

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a full time in ring competitor,
Stone Cold Steve Auston wasn't even on TV

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anymore as the sheriff for the COGM. Bill Goldberg at restume at twenty had

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just stepped away and walked away after
his first year with the company. Brock

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Lesner, the next big thing,
the guy that many people thought that the

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company would be structured around for this
foreseeable future, had walked away from the

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company following Resume twenty as well.
So it ended up being left on the

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shoulders of a lot of the guys
who we may not have thought were ready

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for that main event, or who
would have ever been ready for that main

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event in the likes of Chris benoit
In the likes of Eddie Guerrero, and

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who would have known or who would
have thought of John Bradshaw Layfield winning the

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WWE Championship after being pretty much a
career tag team competitor. So the first

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match of the night, in my
opinion, was kind of showing off what

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kind of depth the roster had,
because the depth of the WWE, in

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my opinion at this point in time, is what carried it because at times

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the star power got a bit boring
or stale, I should say boring,

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He's not the right word, got
a bit stale because of just how often

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the same guys were in the main
event scene. But it was the depth

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there was the IC Championship scene,
it was the United States Chanchampionship scene that

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really kept things interesting here. And
before we get into the card, let's

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set up the main event as the
main event of the night was Chris ben

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Watt defending his World Heavyweight Championship against
the man who was who was facing off

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for a world title for the first
time after becoming the number one contender via

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a Battle Royal on Monday Night Raw
Time, Go work, Hardy Hain't go

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this sting. You go to Spier
a summer slim colu with race or Amber

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for God the more don't been a
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away next It's all just be Stavision, would could have and all Elation may

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have been a summer slant organism,
So very important note there. Randy Orton,

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still a member of Evolution at this
time, will face off against the

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World Heavyweight Champion at SummerSlam. But
later on that night, on Monday Night

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Raw in late July, there was
a Iron Man match between Triple H and

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Chris ben Wah for the World Heavyweight
Championship, and I remember that match.

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It was a hell of a match. I remember they went three for three

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and Chris ben Wah ends up coming
away retaining the World Heavyweight Championship with the

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help of Eugene. So you remember
that the whole Eugene feud with Evolution and

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how maybe controversial that character was back
then and would certainly be in today's climate.

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And just it's crazy to think that
they went as far as they did

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with the Eugene character. So this
would set up for Randy Orton against Chris

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has been Wall for the World Heavyweight
Championship in the main event of SummerSlam two

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thousand and four. So we start
things off in a singles match. On

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the SmackDown side of things, Rob
Vandam defeats Renee Dupree in six minutes in

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seven seconds. Then on the sticking
on the SmackDown side of things, you

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have the Dudley Boys Bubba, Ray
Devon and Spike defeat Raymisteria, Billy Kidman

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and Paul London in eight minutes.
And crazy to think how far Raymisteria has

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come from losing one of the opening
matches to the Dudley Boys on at Summer

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Slam. And this was near the
end of the road for the Dudley Boys

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during their time with WWWE. They
would quickly leave the company and move on

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to TNA Impact Wrestling. But this
was actually good, a good gimmick for

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the Dudley Boys. This is when
Spike had the boss gimmick where he all

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of a sudden was in charge of
the Dudley Boys. I actually kind of

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liked it. He was the Cruiserweight
champion and he held that championship all the

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way until I want to say it
was December of that year. Was it

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Armageddon? I think he lost it
to Funaki, but I really liked this

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gimmick for the Dudley Boys and most
specifically Spike. Then we get Kane defeating

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Matt Hardy in six minutes and eight
seconds in a till death Duah's part match,

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as this was the storyline where Kane
had impregnated Leda and basically whoever would

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win this match would marry Leda and
Kane would come away with this and the

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falling out on raw he Matt would
try and break it up and Kane would

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choke slam him like through the stage, and he would end up marrying Leda,

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and you know you fast forward a
year and we go from Kane and

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Matt Hardy fighting over Leda in storyline
to Matt Hardy and Edge fighting over Leda

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in real life and then into storyline. So this story with Matt Hardy and

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Leda and first Kane and then Edge
and Kane and Edge fought over her at

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the at the beginning of it as
well, it was a very intricate and

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something that strung on for quite quite
a long time. Then we get into

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my opinion, the good stuff here
and I love the fact what they did

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here between John Cena and Booker T. And it was a singles match,

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and it was a tournament for the
United States Championship. Well, it wasn't

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a tournament. That's not the way
I should say. It was a best

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of five match, and Booker T
was the US champion at this point in

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time, and obviously John Cena had
won the US title for the first time

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of Rest of My twenty dropped it
along the way, and this was an

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opportunity for them to really legitimize John
Cena against a veteran like Booker T and

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putting Booker T in the United States
Championship picture, a belt that he held

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a lot uh in his WCW days, I thought did a lot for John

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Cena here. This was one of
his more important feuds early on in his

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career. He had only been a
baby face for about ten months at this

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point, and obviously he wins the
title against the Big Show early on,

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well not early on at WrestleMania,
and holds it into the summer and Booker

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T coming over from Monday Night Raw
in the two thousand and four drafts something

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we covered last week was a big
get for SmackDown and in the first match

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of their best to five. I
really thought that John Cena and Booker T

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put on a hell of a match, and the outcome certainly had people intrigued.

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I hear, I see a Booker
team, you know in of the

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quarner get a hook in the face, lot of books long. Actually that's

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a sleeper bunk to face doctor,
look at right across the rate. John

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see in the eye yellow nas on
a road. He sucking up face first.

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I guess I spook too. So
the better Booker team take it out,

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spinner Ronny action there. I like
the confidence a book of team now

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building up pink and looking out Er
teams that the pig kidness right down,

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getting the wind that runs the best
of time and shitties. That's a bunch

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of man. John c M two
wins away turning out of state championship Er

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team. See hell been, I'm
beating shut up Sea. So John Cena

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wins the first match of the best
of five series. Booker T the United

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States Heel Champion, really trying to
present an obstacle for John Cena early on

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in his career, something that every
young up and comer, especially a baby

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face and needs. And the other
part about this pay per view is that

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you look at John Cena where he
was, as you know, challenging for

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that United States Championship, and you
look at Randy Orton, who was set

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to challenge for the world heavyweight titles
SmackDown, seeing John Cena featured on their

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show Raw, having Randy Orton featured
on their show, So you never really

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saw these two up and comers cross
pass. And the beauty of the brand

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split was at these pay per views, the Big Four, the brand the

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brand neutral pay per views where Raw
and SmackDown competitors were competing, and aside

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from that, they would never cross
pass. At these events. It would

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feel special when a John Cena and
a Randy Orton would cross pass because it

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never happened on weekly television or at
regular pay per views, like an Unforgiven

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or No Mercy or an Armageddon or
a backlash. But at this pay per

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view we got to see two of
the up and comers and two guys that

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would prove to be the faces of
the following generation and professional wrestling cross pass

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for one of the first times on
television. Shocked it. What just happened

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has got to be upset now.
She had tod why would be okay tonight

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for celebration to go down in history
because one of the most talented, one

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of the youngest, most charismatic,
and best looking ww superstars is going to

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ascend to greatness tonight. Tonight will
be the night that the franchise opened up

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shop on Bunker Tea's ass and we're
doing big business right here in Toronto.

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Thanks for the introduction, bro.
He just called me to the youngest,

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best looking, most charismatic superstar at
WWE and Randy June see Tuney gets wristbands

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Advisor. We're gonna get you some
merch's gonna look nice. But I'm a

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fan of yours too, and I
really got fans out did We're gonna see

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how many fans you got out?
Did your t dot? Can you heady

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do y'all like Randy Olton. Oh
that's so good. I'm gonna trying to

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love. I'm gonna trying to love
and yo ta tonight is Randy Oton gonna

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beat Chris ben Wah for the World
Heavyweight Championship. Well, at least you

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got the people behind it. Well, Randy, I think the crowd has

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spoken. They don't think tod I
don't care what a bunch of ass backwards

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Canadians think. Am I sure,
it's I don't care what Sean Cina has

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to say. Quite frankly, I
find it rather pathetic that Sina had to

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interrupt my review to get a little
bit of airtime. Because there's nobody there

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is nothing more important than Randy Orton. Okay, not tonight. Not only

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am I gonna beat Chris ben Wa, but I'm gonna make history. I'm

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gonna leave the world heavy chap.
It's just so crazy, you know,

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nineteen years ago, that's when this
pay per view was, nineteen years ago,

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and you see two of the bigger
up and coming stars in the company,

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one representing Raw, one representing SmackDown, rarely crossing paths because of how

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enforced the brand split was, and
you know, you it's just grow okazy

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to think about that. Over the
following decade decade and a half, those

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two would literally become the faces and
cornerstones of the entire company. Forget the

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brands that they were exclusive to at
this point in time, but the entire

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company. The rivalry they had.
How many Randy Orton and John Cena matches

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had we seen over the years and
one the first time we saw them interact

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as both of them were really trying
to become up and coming star ours.

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So we see John Cena win the
first match of the US Championship best of

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five for in just over six minutes. Then we have Edge defend his Intercontinental

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Championship against Batista and Chris Jericho that
went eight and a half minutes. And

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I gotta say, I love the
placement of the US title and the and

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the and the Intercontinental Championship on this
card. I really do believe that this

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is how you elevate your championships.
And you know, in my mind,

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if you want to have your titles
feel important, this is the only way

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to do it. You have to
place them strongly on pay per views and

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now on premium line of events.
And I think what Triple H has done

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amazingly over the last twelve months is
just that making the IC Championship in the

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US Championship feel important. And again, the Intercontinal Championship at Summers two thousand

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and four was a hell of a
match leading into the two main events.

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Cherricle, I think that marked my
bull out your heads a cherrible. So

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Edge retains his Intercontinental Championship. Obviously
soon after this is when he would turn

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heel and not get right into the
rated AR Superstar gimmick, but like he

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would be well on his way to
that. But something else that was important

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here is Batista. This was one
of the more prominent matches that Batista was

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featured in as a singles competitor.
At this point in time, he had

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always been tagging with with Rick Flair, or acting as the heavy to Triple

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H and Evolution, or tagging alongside
Randy Orton in a six tag match.

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So it was cool to see that
Batista got his shot in a prominent match,

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even if he didn't come out with
the victory, and at this point

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he had never even held a singles
championship, let alone a world championship,

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but very good that he didn't take
the pen and they were clearly fast tracking

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Batista to become, you know,
one of the better or more prominent guys,

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as he would have won the more
unexpected and organic pushes. Ever,

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just four months down the line here, like you saw that John Cena and

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Randy Orton were the guys that they
were looking to the future with, specifically

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given their age. You know,
they were in their early mid twenties,

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Batista was already older than Triple H. But I do think that it was

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really cool to see how fast Batista
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fans and got so over with fans
organically starting out as you know, almost

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like a third wheel in the Intercontinental
Championship match, to you know, seven

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months down the line becoming a contender
to the World Typyweight Championship. So now

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we move on to the SmackDown's main
event of JBL with his first real significant

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championship defense. Or actually no,
we actually had a few more matches to

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get to that. Sorry, I
jumped to Gliden. So you have curt

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Angle defeating Eddie Guerrero in thirteen and
a half minutes by submission, continuing their

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rivalry. And it makes sense that
curt Angle would get this victory seeing as

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how Eddie got the big win at
WrestleMania twenty and curt Angle was just recently

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brought back to being a full time
competitor after taking some time off as the

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as the SmackDown GM. So curt
Angle, it's back in the saddle,

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wins the match and is right back
at the top of the card and feuding

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with Eddie Guerrero in a grudge feud. Triple H defeats Eugene in just over

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fourteen minutes in a singles match.
I mean a real big step down for

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Triple H, big time here,
as this was just kind of like a

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stepping stone to get him to his
next rivalry, which we'll get to in

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just a couple of moments. But
obviously Triple H and Eugene had to put

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a bow on their mini program that
had lasted over the course of the summer,

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and obviously Eugene costing him in the
Iron Man match against Chris Benois.

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Then we get to JBL defending his
WWE championship against the Undertaker in a singles

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match that went seventeen minutes and thirty
seven seconds and in classy in classic rather

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JBL fashion, he would do so
by hook or crook one and the cheapest

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stand up after come and removed the
other one, and other calls like for

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health that's two in this matchup delivered
to GM under the Undertaker and then then

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then take a holiday to stand up
with an injured knee if the not one

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but two closed on some health Champiel
physical taking it to the challenger. Babyl

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is just making his mare and that's
the last fort way to see him go

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light out of the corner. I
came rod of the cover puck. Last

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three is the river Undertakeer rooms the
championship one the remberrees come tis the one

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TBL just got the shoulder up?
What matchup here at so sli the last

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mine? I call Undertaker of the
Cold to one man, what ain't championship?

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That's I'll tell you that. It's
awesome close to watch the j p

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hell and struggle. So now that
you're still I'll be got face that she

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was downing the staff just got drump
like a man. How did you take

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a look at st I'm chaking out
a way by sign man. You gotta

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be kidney. They go all that, Wow, you gotta be kidney or

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pick some bad takers being be smotified
after chiming, having a little jim and

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used the cold in the mat shop, Rumking trumping undertake up. He's binking

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his way right now. Wundertaker stuff
through so he's not and jiddy Hill he's

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now on the ends down a hot
time here he steel straps Undertaker all the

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high all that to is lust it
over the little on the long horns came

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off in the right hand and watching
he be out but the fish right there

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fish oh head book champion has been
knocked down. Undertaker taking out his frustration.

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I'm a champion. I think that's
a that's a right way to put

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it. Who knows what till think
you hit my point album? What's this?

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JBL colect it on the parts heckles
go up for the which shad of

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jbls that is bustle ups have the
up call to the skirt of a which

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shields shout at the head is shout
of JBL. This is something this is

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getting up jap hell cut open as
its head bell felt the hood a limo.

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Thank god. The gonna take his
leave with it up, bust it

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up for JBL. I'm gonna take
it. Not happening going on the league

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Torontoo w W champion, the champion
retaining the title. But JBL's us for

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wearing or what it or both champions
on hoodle car plea run the shop on

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the undertakers fakings fame tax it.
Yeah, this is oh my god.

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So JBL retains the championship by disqualification
and just like that, he once again

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retains the title. And I say
once again, but this was very early

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on in his title reign, but
it was kind of like a story that

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we would see told over and over
and over again right until he would eventually

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lose the championship to John Cena at
Wrestling at twenty one. It was just

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predominantly the story of JBL's title reign. Now to the main event, Chris

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ben Wah against Randy Orton, a
match that went pretty long, twenty minutes

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and eight seconds, the longest of
the night. And this was something that

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I think we don't talk about a
lot because it is um obviously featuring Chris

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ben Wah, and that's something that
WWE does not like to feature. But

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I will tell you it was a
hell of a match and the outcome is

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one of the more memorable finishes,
in my opinion, in the history of

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SummerSlam. Been wrong with the World
Clime Himania by ready remember Destiny, Nick

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Destiny, gip, wrong hip,
blood on, holding on hip order,

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perspiration or caller in any of them
or slip all across face he wrote through

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it the second time, Oh my
god, hare Okay, No where hords.

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Got that's ready or this Garne looking
at his face, look at at

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basically how you can't believe it?
You time wild anyway? Champion, let

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me sumness some lightning strike, seek
from nowhere, all the chippy truth,

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destiny, he gets the world champion
in history. Why he'll a wrestling man's

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here or a heart breaker from her? Him every day with a heart breaker.

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Christy Raw, Yeah, has such
a great year. Can't watch set

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of take review event in the role
You're coming back to the home country.

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The word Chendon has done. He
was the world him and to share it

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on his summer sound. He's the
man of destiny, been gonna happen.

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Beat everybody that he was, got
to the ring with he dominated, not

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row. This loan is the word
from cheer from the night. Don't get

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a post killer, don't And just
like that, Randy Jordan becomes the youngest

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world heavyweight champion, and it would
kind of spell the end of him an

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evolution as we know it. Evolution
would turn on him the very next night.

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The following week, on Monday Night, Raw, he spits in the

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face of Triple h and they go
off to the races. On their initial

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program, but Randy Jordan's initial title
reign due to you know, behind the

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scenes immaturity would only last about one
month, as you drop it at unforgiven,

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there were some things we didn't cover
at this SummerSlam, like Diva Dodgeball

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for one thing, as it kind
of goes to show what were the state

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of the women's division at this time. You know, the women's championship was

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not defended here and the only featured
women on the car with them playing Dodge

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Paul in bikini outfits. But obviously
there's no reason to break that down.

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But all in all, I think
Summer Slim two thousand and four was a

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sign of things to come. Randy
Ortan becoming the youngest world heavyweight champion,

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John seen A winning a match in
the first of the Best to Five for

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the US Championship, and Batista in
his for one of his first big matches

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showcased as a single star, and
you fast forward six to ten months for

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all of them, and they are
all playing prominent roles at WrestleMania twenty one.

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And we guys, that's all I
got for you tonight. I hope

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you enjoyed Summer Slim two thousand and
four. As always, you can get

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