WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.760 --> 00:00:04.519 This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by 2 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.839 G three of Pero. The views expressed in the following program are those of 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:14.039 the sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of sevent ten wo R or Ihartmedia. 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.239 Who is Mark Webber. He's a self made business executive here to help you 5 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:23.960 find your success, from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in 6 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:29.320 Paris. His global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspiration off. 7 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:35.200 He's gone from clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the 8 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:40.119 American dream is alive and well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:45.960 Mark Webber Weber. Everything is funny when it's happening to someone else me. 10 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.719 I'm enjoying my time on the dark side. I prefer leaving nice behind. 11 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:59.200 No political correctness, no social graces, no extending pleasantries, no extenuating circumstances. 12 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.520 I'm calling it like I see it. And what did I see this 13 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:06.719 week? A symbol of the dark side telling me I'm on the right track. 14 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.079 That big gray, ugly rat balloon in front of all things a school. 15 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:15.959 It's funny when that rat isn't aimed at you and what you're doing. 16 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:19.920 I remember the first time I encountered that rat, not a clue what it 17 00:01:21.040 --> 00:01:23.040 was of what it represented. It was in the street in front of the 18 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:27.840 corporate headquarters of Phillips Venues and at the time two hundred Madison Avenue. The 19 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:32.640 rat wasn't by himself and all his glory, Oh no, it had a 20 00:01:32.680 --> 00:01:38.040 bunch of what turned out to be union work is demonstrating against our company PVH 21 00:01:38.079 --> 00:01:40.719 in the front of the building. I got a kick out of it. 22 00:01:41.000 --> 00:01:45.239 What the heck did we do to bring in protesters to our company? Was 23 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:49.640 such good guys. Got to the elevator laughing, walked to my office smiling, 24 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.040 hug up my jacket and want the length of the hallway down to the 25 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:56.599 CEO's office and laughing, I said, what the hell is this about. 26 00:01:57.040 --> 00:02:02.719 It was at that precise moment I realized the difference between being the president versus 27 00:02:02.799 --> 00:02:08.199 being the CEO. He was depressed besides himself, and I was having a 28 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:13.800 great time being ridiculed by the rat. Yeah, the CEO gets the big 29 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:17.319 bucks, but the buck also stops with him. CEO is a lonely job 30 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:23.240 in corporate America. It's really all on him. The president's job, particularly 31 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:27.759 mine, is chief operating office, was an important, strategic and task responsible 32 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.719 role. But I was screened from the toughness that it took on the CEO. 33 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:35.840 I was having fun. He was miserable. It's not easy having the 34 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:38.960 rat in front of your office building while they're chanting the name of the CEO. 35 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:44.159 He's a rat. He's a rat. And it wasn't Mark Webber a 36 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:47.159 rat. Now I has something you probably don't know about corporate America. In 37 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:52.479 a public company, if they're a financial improprieties, there are only two people 38 00:02:52.520 --> 00:02:57.400 accountable, the chief financial officer and the CEO. They get purple walked out 39 00:02:57.439 --> 00:03:00.199 of the building with handcuffs. I remember. Also, not too long after, 40 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:07.000 CBS had a story on human rights compliant or the lacter of workers in 41 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:12.199 sweatshops and expose life from Asia, the SHEEO walking out of his building, 42 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:16.000 shielding his face, ignoring the questions thrown at him from reporters. Yeah, 43 00:03:16.039 --> 00:03:21.000 that's the life of the CEO, but not the president. This is where 44 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.439 you can see my dark side, my smiley face until of a CEO. 45 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:28.639 Then the rat is not so funny. Everything is funny when it's happening to 46 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:31.759 someone else. In reality, we were targeted, and I'll get to that. 47 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.759 But this week I saw the rat while walking through my neighborhood. Hold 48 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:39.120 that thought as well. Rats. I had a meeting this week with the 49 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:44.879 principle of a large billion dollar company. During a conversation, he asked me 50 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:49.479 if I knew a particular guy, did I work with him? I hesitated, 51 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.680 and after he said, the guy's a problem and I knew him and 52 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.479 I remembered him. He was a friend, but he was also a rat. 53 00:03:59.319 --> 00:04:02.479 So of all things, this week is the reek of the rat now 54 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:06.840 joining me on the darker side of the personality scale. Jesse Weber of Attorney, 55 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.840 co host and sun Hey, Jesse, Hey, I'm not a dark 56 00:04:10.879 --> 00:04:13.919 side guy. I don't know why you've classified me as that, although I 57 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:18.160 will admit you seem to thrive on the dark side. That seems to be 58 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.199 your comfort zone. Hey, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait 59 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.519 a minute? Waited, I admit I'm on the dark side. I just 60 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:26.160 sold you when you're joining me for a trip on the duck side. I 61 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:29.000 didn't say you were a duck side guy, but you're making it seem like 62 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:31.120 I like it too. You're the one who's funny when you're angry. You're 63 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.160 the one who's I don't want to say better, but I think you give 64 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:39.120 sometimes a more entertaining show when you're angry and you're on the dark side. 65 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:43.000 Now, look what happened last week when you were back to yourself. Oh 66 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.600 my goodness, everybody loved it exactly. So I'm not angry, I'm just 67 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:51.519 not sweet. Well, it's funny when you talk about the dark side, 68 00:04:51.639 --> 00:04:58.079 because there's this fascination that we have today with true crime. Everybody loves it. 69 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:01.240 All every network is trying to get in that space, whether it's true 70 00:05:01.240 --> 00:05:05.759 crime documentaries, true crime show is, true crime podcast, true crime fiction 71 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:11.879 shows with actors. It's just like everybody's trying to one up and they're all 72 00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:15.560 trying to get this same audience. By the way, in two months, 73 00:05:15.079 --> 00:05:20.319 I'm headed to a crime convention in Orlando, Florida called Crime con That's how 74 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:24.120 many people are interested on it. No, I mean, look at what 75 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:29.120 is going on right now with this coburger case in Idaho. Why did he 76 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:31.079 do it? How did he do it, what's behind it, what's going 77 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:35.000 to happen next? There was such a fascination with it. And I understand 78 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:39.160 why at the time because nobody knew who did it. But even now just 79 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:44.399 people are obsessed with understanding what is behind these kinds of really brutal crimes. 80 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:47.399 But anyway, that's a separate topic. I never wanted this for you, 81 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:54.040 Michael. I thought when your time would come, Senator Collon, Governor Collion, 82 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:58.319 not enough time, Jesse. You're in the middle of it all. 83 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.560 You know what the trials to be like. When they thought it, they 84 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:04.279 may send me down there. It might be that big you know where's down 85 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.839 there this time, Well it would be an Idaho, So it's the other 86 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:10.720 side of the country. Maybe I'll come and meet you there. We go, 87 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:13.680 could do a discussion outside the courthouse like we did with Johnny Depp. 88 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:17.360 Amber heard but a crime side. What's with the rat in the neighborhood? 89 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:20.560 Do you know what the rat is? Actually? Yeah? So the rat, 90 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:26.480 the big inflatable rat. It's a symbol from unions that they are protesting 91 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:30.680 the companies either they're hiring non union labor, or they're doing something that violates 92 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.480 policy, or they're in the middle of a protest. It's basically the union's 93 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:39.439 answer to company management very good, And that's true. That's what it is 94 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:41.600 for those of you who don't know what we're talking about or have seen it 95 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:45.720 and don't know where it is. But I was walking and I couldn't imagine 96 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.800 what was it doing in front of school, let alone the school. It 97 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:53.040 is the government building. I've walked over to these two guys that were camped 98 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.959 out with the RAT. I learned a few things. First of all, 99 00:06:56.319 --> 00:07:00.079 they didn't really believe they should be that. Number two, when I asked 100 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:02.959 them to explain what's going on, they weren't very good at it, And 101 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.199 I wondered whether or not that's because we were in a residential neighborhood of people 102 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.519 just didn't feel it was worth the effort that they were in to gain anywhere. 103 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:15.040 They were showing their futility of it all. Apparently the school had started 104 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:20.879 construction and they used non unionized labor, and the union got really upset of 105 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:25.600 it. But nonetheless it was going on and the rat was there. But 106 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.120 this whole thing with the rat goes back to my pH days. My boss 107 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.399 was a good guy. He was always on the right side of the right 108 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:35.720 thing, always doing what he believed was right, and he got caught in 109 00:07:35.759 --> 00:07:43.560 the crosshairs to strategic policy human rights. Never is it a simple conversation, 110 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:47.439 and they are always long lasting ramifications. And as I said, doing the 111 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:50.959 right thing is never easy. I have a great example when I was involved 112 00:07:51.000 --> 00:07:58.560 with trying to build businesses in Africa. I was involved with Bono and his 113 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.000 wife. Oh by the way, they then est people in the world, 114 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.079 and they really do want to save the earth. And what they did for 115 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:07.519 Africa was extraordinary, the way they tried to help the people. They still 116 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:13.279 do. But the whole subject of organic cotton came up the issue in Africa. 117 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.639 We were trying to build industry in Africa, the idea of giving them 118 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:20.639 work. Give a guy of fish, he eats for a day, but 119 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.240 if you teach a guy to fish, they'll eat for a lifetime. And 120 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.879 we were trying to teach them how to cultivate products and cotton and build the 121 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:33.399 paril factories in Africa so they would have long term futures. And the subject 122 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:39.840 of organic cotton came up. Everybody wanted whatever we did in Africa to be 123 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:46.039 about organic cotton. And the issue is, if you are growing organic cotton, 124 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:48.480 you put cotton in the ground, you water it, you use no 125 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:54.799 pesticides, because in the reality, the ground water gets spoiled and if the 126 00:08:54.840 --> 00:09:00.360 people around this are breathing these chemicals or they're using the war water, they 127 00:09:00.360 --> 00:09:03.919 can get very sick from it. Now, the idea is to have wells 128 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:07.279 nowhere near there and after it's sprayed, not to be in the area. 129 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.879 I guess I'm not a conservationist. I don't know if enough about it. 130 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:16.279 Maybe we should ask center to Kennedy. But the reality is, if you 131 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.600 grow organic cotton, you use no pesticides, and in Africa that means mosquitos, 132 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:28.000 and mosquitoes carry malaria, and the malaria grows in Africa and it's a 133 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:35.159 problem. And therefore this whole subject of organic cotton is caught up in unintended 134 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.600 consequences, which brings me back to the RAT or the PVH RAT. We 135 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.919 were a high profile company. Everything we did with God announced, you know, 136 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.399 you were a billion dollar plus company. We own brands like Calvin Klein 137 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:50.960 and now Tommy hill Feger, and you know, we were really in the 138 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:54.440 forefront of what was going on in NAFTA, the North American Free Trade Agreement. 139 00:09:54.879 --> 00:10:01.200 The idea was to add jobs and say jobs in the manufacturing sector in 140 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.120 this hemisphere rather than grow and build in China and the rest of the Asia. 141 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:11.320 And it sounds right. I remember Trump hated the idea of making in 142 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:16.200 NAFTA in Mexico. If I recall, blame Bill Clinton. He talked about 143 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.759 it during his campaign and he said we lost jobs to go in Central America. 144 00:10:20.840 --> 00:10:26.200 He wasn't wrong, but the same jobs were being lost in Asia, 145 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:31.159 but he was targeted. I remember the Wall Street Journal searched me out because 146 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:35.440 they knew I was associated with Trump at the time in making his dress shirts, 147 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.240 and they planned to come out with a big expose on Trump not being 148 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.480 a man of his word because the Trump shirt line, which our company represented 149 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:46.840 in manufactured we were making a NAFTA And there two things to remember about NAFTA. 150 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:52.240 It was an incentive of Bill Clinton's and the government. They wanted us 151 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:56.879 to make it Central and South America because it would in fact save jobs there. 152 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.519 But what they didn't call out was they had Trump looking like the bad 153 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:03.320 guy, and they called me. And the interesting thing for me, because 154 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:07.039 I had learned my lesson along the way when it comes to the press, 155 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:11.200 is that when you get quoted, it gets changed. And I had the 156 00:11:11.320 --> 00:11:15.919 agreement with the Wall Street Journal. I had the experience to say, I 157 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:20.480 will talk to you, but you have to guarantee me that you will take 158 00:11:20.559 --> 00:11:26.399 the excerpts from this conversation that you tape and print him verbat him and I 159 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.919 did. And I covered for Trump because he did nothing wrong. But that 160 00:11:30.039 --> 00:11:35.639 was a long time ago. The point of it is, even with eliminating 161 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.399 tariff barriers, duties, taxes as you would call them, between partners, 162 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.960 between Mexico, between all of us, it wasn't enough to save imports from 163 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:48.320 going to the rest of the world. Interesting enough, high ticket items like 164 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:54.279 automobiles seem to work in union and non union factories. But I have to 165 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:58.879 step into this and make sure I'm clear here that rat was targeted a PVH 166 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:03.960 in front of our building because we were making goods in Guatemala. Now why 167 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.120 targeted? Because we were good guys and because anything they did would stand up 168 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.519 it screamed about PVH would get reported because we were one of these big companies 169 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:16.320 and they wanted to make sure that we were caught. Now, I am 170 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:20.159 a union guy. My family were the union people. I came from a 171 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.360 family. My father, my uncles were all union men. Their close friends 172 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.919 worked for government posts. There were union kinds of people. I grew appearing 173 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:33.639 how the union was our friend. They just signed a new contract. We 174 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.720 will get more money, We'll have another day off. Collective bargaining work for 175 00:12:37.759 --> 00:12:41.480 the common man. And the strength of the large groups of workers uniting gave 176 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.639 us guy's power. And the threat of striking was always in the air. 177 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:52.080 And it always felt like my father's companies and his union they would remember and 178 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:56.720 I remember now. I knew I was too young to talk about. I 179 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.480 couldn't give them any advising. He even got to the point when my father 180 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.480 was a young, relatively young man, the Union was eliminating jobs. He 181 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:07.840 worked for the New York Daily News at this point, and he was one 182 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.039 of those guys who put all the type together to do the printing. And 183 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:16.159 that became taking all the little letters, putting him in a box and making 184 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.600 sure it would print right. They'd run a test copy, he would review 185 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:22.600 it, make sure it was accurate for the spelling. He did all these 186 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:26.080 things that it was being manual. They were giving it to computers machines to 187 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.840 do the work, and they didn't need him anymore. But as a union 188 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.720 guy, he was protected. He would have a job at the Daily News 189 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:35.440 as long as he wanted it. They came in, they offered him a 190 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.679 payment. He took the payment. It was like a relief and a gift. 191 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:41.279 Maybe he was tired of working there, maybe he had it up, 192 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:45.720 but the union was overays a good thing. But when you look at targeting 193 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:50.080 us from making in Guatemala or moving goods to Asia. This is fifty years 194 00:13:50.159 --> 00:13:54.440 later and T shirts are still ninety done, you can't be competitive. But 195 00:13:54.600 --> 00:14:01.080 back to the rat We started a factory in Guatemala to support what NAFTA. 196 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.600 We hired workers who had no jobs. We took people that were sitting at 197 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:09.039 home, had no income. We gave them jobs, We gave them fair 198 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:13.559 wages, we gave them bathrooms, we gave them lunches. But Human Rights 199 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:20.080 Watch it wasn't enough because they believed we should supply schools, we should supply 200 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:24.960 one day off, we should supply enough toilets and toilet paper and cash. 201 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:31.080 And what happened was it got to the point that it made us non competitive. 202 00:14:31.679 --> 00:14:35.960 They turned at Guatemala factory into the same kind of factory had the United 203 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:39.720 States with a human rights watch. They were right to worry about humans, 204 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.480 but the wage level became impossible. We had to close the factory. The 205 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:48.120 rats shows up, the Human Rights Watch attacking my boss, who did only 206 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:52.519 the right things at our annual shareholme meeting, and embarrassed the heck out of 207 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:56.039 us. Instead of talking about the future of the company, all the questions 208 00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:00.480 were aimed at time and a half for overtime, raising the standard of living. 209 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:05.679 It wasn't enough that they had jobs, so that rat did its job. 210 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:09.120 One day the rat shows up, we get targeted. I wasn't laughing 211 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:15.919 anymore, particularly when we had to close the factory because it wasn't competitive any 212 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:20.960 longer. So this week that rat. 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The brand has 272 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.640 a lot of energy in it, but at the price points no one can 273 00:19:53.720 --> 00:20:00.000 compete. You can find is that at your leading retailers and online at isaah 274 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:03.319 dot com. Talk to you later, guys. I wish you I'm very 275 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.720 happy spring in summer, and I help you by telling you if you wear 276 00:20:07.759 --> 00:20:11.960 eyesight, you're gonna look great. Welcome back, Joe Always in Fashion. 277 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:17.880 Here's your host, Mark Webber. I'm enjoying tonight's show which is entitled a 278 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.240 rat I'm on my dark side of life right now. I'm enjoying not being 279 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:26.759 a nice guy. I'm enjoying pointing out the things in life that well, 280 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.000 I always put a decent slant on it, and I thought I would continue. 281 00:20:30.640 --> 00:20:36.400 And I want to take a little poetic license and entertain you and myself 282 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:38.480 because I like this story I'm about to tell you. Let's call it the 283 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:44.039 rat Pack. I love the concept of the rat Pack. The first time 284 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.160 I ever saw it was The Ocean's Eleven back in the sixties and seventies. 285 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.400 I don't remember when the movie was made. It included Frank Sinatra, Joey 286 00:20:52.440 --> 00:20:56.599 Bishop, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Junior, Petlorfan and a whole cast 287 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.680 of characters about eleven guys who served in the army and then they all got 288 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:04.079 out and they live in in Vegas and they decided to rob all the hotel 289 00:21:04.119 --> 00:21:08.279 casino. It's a great movie. That's one of those movies that over time 290 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.720 you kind of like Jesse, You've got a favorite movie that talks about guys 291 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:18.720 hanging out together. Ocean's Eleven my favorite movie. That is a movie I 292 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:22.839 can put on at any time and be happy and watch the whole thing. 293 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:25.920 Anytime it's on television. I could watch it. I watch it literally on 294 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.519 my phone all the time. It just makes me feel good. That's a 295 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.640 cool movie about cool guys doing something fun in Las Vegas. What's better than 296 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.759 that? Isn't it a great movie? Are you talking eleven only or twelve 297 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:41.119 and thirteen? Two? Twelve is okay, it's grown on me. Thirteen's 298 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:45.559 good, I like it, but eleven is incredibly special. That's the one 299 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:48.200 I liked them all. I also liked the one with the central bullock. 300 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:52.440 I thought that was a pretty cool movie and not my favorite. They're redoing 301 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.880 with Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie. Oh that's great. But are they gonna 302 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:59.079 call it Oceans eleven or they're moving on? It's Oceans eleven, but it 303 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:03.039 takes place in the six I hate when people reboot, I really do. 304 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:04.200 I hate it. I hate it. Hey, but that's not why I 305 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:10.200 want to talk about this. Of all the things I've talked about in the 306 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:18.720 last few months, I got the most response from someone that I'll call Escalante. 307 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.960 I did a show at three o'clock in the morning after Jesse's wedding, 308 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:30.440 I talked about Escalante, my alter ego at the time. The reality is 309 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.559 the dark side. I don't like humans. I think I've made that pretty 310 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:37.119 clear. It's few and far between that I can find that I like, 311 00:22:37.240 --> 00:22:41.440 and generally speaking, I try to avoid humans whenever I can. I was 312 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.480 in a restaurant the other night. Eight people walked in, four or five 313 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.240 of them. I know I was having dinner by myself. I must have 314 00:22:48.319 --> 00:22:52.400 bothered them that I'm sitting there alone. Do I look to crepit eating dinner 315 00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.400 by myself? By the way, you only look to Crepit in your mind. 316 00:22:55.599 --> 00:22:57.839 I think it's cool. James Bond always ate by himself when he traveled, 317 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:03.160 and for a guy who he says, I don't care what people think. 318 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:07.839 You care a lot what people think. There's a difference between caring what 319 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.279 they think and asking what I look like. Okay, there's a big difference. 320 00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:15.920 I'm asking you think it looks like I'm decrepit that I'm sitting there by 321 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:18.480 myself. I'm having a grand old time. I love every minute of it. 322 00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:22.000 But it doesn't mean that people aren't saying, look at this guy. 323 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:26.400 He knows nobody. So that's the distinction, and I don't care what they 324 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.480 think I actually said to him. I really appreciate it. But those of 325 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.240 you at the table who don't know me, I have a radio show, 326 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:36.039 and on the radio show, I constantly talk about being a recluse and don't 327 00:23:36.079 --> 00:23:38.240 like humans. So thank you for inviting me. I'm sure you're all great, 328 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.599 but I'll sit here by myself. Could you imagine me saying that to 329 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:45.200 people are trying to be nice? You, I imagine at one thousand percent 330 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:48.519 saying that. So anyway, back to Escalante. In the middle of the 331 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.920 night, I explained the story that it got to a point in my life 332 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:56.079 that wherever I was, wherever I was traveling on a plane, you know, 333 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:57.640 someone sits down next you starts to talk to you. I don't want 334 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:02.079 to be bothered. I don't want to talk to anybody. Golf is the 335 00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:07.240 one place when you're traveling alone. You can't seem to play golf by yourself. 336 00:24:07.240 --> 00:24:10.119 You're any place that's decent, they want to fill up the times, 337 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.640 and they'll pair you with other people if they have two and you have one, 338 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:15.160 or they have three and you're just the same. And it was a 339 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:18.039 period in time where they were pairing me. I didn't know that I was 340 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:22.039 willing to spend the money. I could block out a foursome on my own, 341 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:25.319 which I would do now because I'd rather be alone. But they were 342 00:24:25.319 --> 00:24:29.839 pairing me with guys, and some German guys started talking to me about who 343 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.680 I was and what I did, and I told him that I was a 344 00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:40.680 bullfighter named Escalante, and he got into the whole big thing, and you 345 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:42.960 know, he started asking me questions and I got into it, and everybody 346 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:45.920 in the audience seems to like it. So I want to tell you another 347 00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:53.279 story. I'm working for PVH. We were a very charitable organization and David 348 00:24:53.359 --> 00:25:00.440 Cassidy, the famous singer and star of the Partridge Family White at the time, 349 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:04.000 had a charity and she approached someone on our marketing group and asked us 350 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.359 to contribute to her charity. I don't remember what it was. It might 351 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:11.680 have been for children. We gladly did it, and we had a very 352 00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:15.279 nice relationship with her and her husband. And the reason I mentioned the Rack 353 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:21.039 Pack, David Cassidy and his wife became the producers of a show in Las 354 00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:25.720 Vegas at the Riviera Hotel called The rat Pack. And the Riviera Hotel was 355 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.559 where the rat Pack spent a lot of their time when they were alive and 356 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:33.279 performing in Las Vegas. And we've all seen pictures of Frank Sinatra, Dean 357 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:37.519 Martin, Sammy Davis Junior, and Joey Bishop at the rack Pack became the 358 00:25:37.759 --> 00:25:41.799 place to be. It was the hottest ticket in town in Vegas. There 359 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.839 was nothing cooler and more popular than I guess in the sixties or seventies than 360 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.480 the rat Pack. And they brought this show back and they had very talented 361 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:55.200 entertainers who kind of resembled Frank but could sing like Frank, and who resembled 362 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.079 Dean and could sing like Dean, resembled Sammy, could sing like Sammy. 363 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.920 And I come median who looked like Joey Bishop. And it was funny. 364 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:08.279 Anyway, I asked through my people, can I get a ticket from my 365 00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.960 wife and I to go to the rat Pack at the Riviera Hotel And he 366 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.640 said, of course, we get to the Riviera. I show my tickets 367 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:22.240 and what do I have David Cassidy's private table, his wife's private table for 368 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.960 my wife and I at the show. That's cool. That was very cool. 369 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:30.759 Front row right there the perfect table. Before I even sat down, 370 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.720 they head to champagne laid out. They had appetizers laid out, and I 371 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.920 said, you know, I didn't know your guests of the Cassidy's. This 372 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.079 is how we treat you. Thank you so much for being involved. They 373 00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:44.480 really appreciate everything you do for them in the charity. I said, it's 374 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.519 my pleasure. So the show begins with music. It's great. I mean, 375 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.920 now I'm really connected. I'm feeling great. My wife and I were 376 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.079 looking the part. The entertainer performing as if he was Joey Bishop. The 377 00:26:56.119 --> 00:27:00.400 comedian comes out to warm up the audience, and he starts looking around and 378 00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:06.519 he starts doing his thing, and he's funny, and all of a sudden, 379 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:08.759 he you know, he starts talking to the audience. He talks to 380 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:14.039 this guy and that guy, and then he comes over to me and he 381 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:18.319 said, hey, there, what's your name? I said, if I 382 00:27:18.440 --> 00:27:21.759 told you, you wouldn't believe me. Isn't that really what's your name? 383 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:27.559 My name is Mark, but I really go by the name Escalante. I 384 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.279 figure, I'm in the audience there, nobody needs to know my business. 385 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.079 Who I am? A president PVA. I want to go there. I 386 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:37.480 don't want to by know him business. He said to me, Okay, 387 00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.880 Mark, what do you do for a living. You got a beautiful wife, 388 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:44.960 you must be successful. I said, yes, she is beautiful, 389 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.160 and thank you for that. But again, if I tell you what I 390 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.119 do, you're not gonna believe me. He says, no, I believe 391 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.759 you tell me what you do. So I said, well, I was 392 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:57.240 a professional highlight player. Now, for those of you who don't know what 393 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:04.359 highlight is, it's a game of Spanish orientation from South America, Mexico, 394 00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:11.839 where it's kind of like throwing a baseball made out of stone or some hard 395 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.720 material, kind of a bigger golf ball against the wall. It goes one 396 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.559 hundred miles an hour. You have to catch it and throw it back, 397 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:21.839 and you run all over the court like a handball court, but it's enclosed. 398 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.400 It's a very tough sport. You're diving, you're catching it, you're 399 00:28:25.480 --> 00:28:30.160 you're really it's dangerous at one level, but it's really really athletic. And 400 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:33.640 I said, I played highlight. It was a professional highlight place and no, 401 00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.759 you weren't. I go to highlight. You know, you're a regular 402 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.640 guy from where in New York, I said, originally, but I've been 403 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:42.759 living in Spain. And what's your name again? I said, Escalante? 404 00:28:42.799 --> 00:28:45.720 S did you play high? I don't believe he so, let me ask 405 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.559 you a question. Is what did the arena be called in Spanish? The 406 00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.839 front on? Oh? Really? And what did you call that basket? 407 00:28:55.000 --> 00:29:00.240 You caught the ball with the sister and the ball pull up to He says, 408 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:03.680 you know what, don't I'm starting to believe you. You played professional 409 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:07.359 eyes So that's what you do, isn't No? I said, I used 410 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.720 to do it. What do you do? I said, you still want 411 00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:12.319 to continue this? He said, yeah, I'm interested. Now you got 412 00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:15.519 our interests. Why don't you want to hear more? And he order starts 413 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:21.279 applauding you know? So I said, well, okay, you asked and 414 00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:22.680 I told you. You're not going to believe me. He said, oh 415 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.160 yeah, what are you doing? I said, I'm a professional bullfighter by 416 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.480 the name of Escalante. He says, no way, you're a bullfight. 417 00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:33.680 What kind of crap is this? This is what you're telling me. So 418 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.599 Mommy is on one hand, laughing and trying to crawl under the table. 419 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.880 She's squeezing my arm she's kicking me under the table. You know what are 420 00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:47.559 you're doing? You know? I said, people eleven, it's it's okay. 421 00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.599 So he says again, I don't believe in a million years you were 422 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.319 a professional bullfighter. So I said, okay, conversation move on, isn't 423 00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:59.920 none? Now let me ask you a question. What is the stadium where 424 00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:02.839 they fought the bull in Spain? I said, well, I've done it 425 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.119 in Spain. I've done it in Mexico. But the best places the plaza 426 00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:11.319 dy toros. And he looks at me, he said, and the costume. 427 00:30:11.400 --> 00:30:15.359 What's that called? I said, deluss. It's embroidered in silver or 428 00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.160 gold. It's type fitting. It's made to fit me, skin tight. 429 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.160 How did you know all this? I'm prepared, Jesse, I'm prepared. 430 00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.000 You know me, Aren't I thorough? When I took on this identity? 431 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:30.480 I got serious. So he says to me, all right, where the 432 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.880 bulls come from? What do they call? I said, well, the 433 00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.039 best bulls known as toro, of course, a bull, a Liberian fighting 434 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.640 bulls. They're the best. No one comes close. He looks at me. 435 00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:45.000 This you know a technical question? What do you call those guys who 436 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.599 stick the bull in the neck before you go in for the slaughter. They 437 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.680 have two names, a picadora bendelerros. And now he's saying, I can't 438 00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.839 believe this. He said, your matador. I said yeah. He said, 439 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.839 do you speak Spanish? I said no. He said, now I 440 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.359 got you. How could you be a matador without speaking Spanish? And I 441 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:08.160 said to him, I don't have to. The bulls don't either, say 442 00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.440 he's laughing. Everybody's laughing at this point. He said, I have a 443 00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:15.519 question for you, and he said sure. I said, when are you 444 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:21.640 going to be funny? And he started to laugh. The audience went crazy. 445 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:26.680 And I did my debut in Las Vegas, says Escalante, and it 446 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.480 was a great night. That's amazing. Imagine if he was like, Okay, 447 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.519 we have a bull on stage. Now let's see how good you are. 448 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:36.640 Well, he went on, it was a great show. I was 449 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.519 glad I was there, and I haven't talked about Escalante in a while. 450 00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:44.440 And I hope all of you out there enjoyed that story, and it brought 451 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.319 it up because of the rat pack and tonight the show is about well, 452 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.680 let's call the rat I kind him on the dark side, but I'm happy 453 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.680 and having fun. So we'll take a break and we'll be back and we'll 454 00:31:53.720 --> 00:32:01.759 continue with this rat stuff always in fashion lifetime of my career building the van 455 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:07.359 Usen Brand, and I am so pleased that they're back with us now talking 456 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:12.920 about suits, men, we're dressing up again and it's become cool to wear 457 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.839 a suit. Suits can be one on multiple occasions, in multiple ways. 458 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:20.559 You could wear a suit formally to go out at night or to an event, 459 00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:22.960 to wear a suit to the office with or without a tie. If 460 00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:28.119 you look closely, now fashion trends, suits are being worn with turtlenecks or 461 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:34.440 mocknecks. The choices are endless, and every one of them looks right. 462 00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.480 You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging yourself this is 463 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:43.160 important. Does the products you package and wearing a suit is one of those 464 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:47.319 things that make men look their best. Venues and invented a new idea. 465 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:52.799 It's called the cool flex suit. It's been engineered with stretched technology, giving 466 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.319 you the most comfortable fit and mobility. It's wrinkle resistant fabric, it's cool 467 00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.720 moisture wicking. It makes it perfect for all occasions. As we discussed just 468 00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:07.720 now, This new style of looking sharp while feeling cool and comfortable is amazing, 469 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:13.359 and I'm so excited that the van Using company is involved in this new 470 00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:17.720 technology and is embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's not forget van 471 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.920 Uson made its name with dress shirts. It's only proper that the suit business 472 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:27.799 follows strongly in its way. You can find van us and Cool Flex men's 473 00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:32.519 stretch suits at JC Penney are online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're 474 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.880 great. You should go look at them. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. 475 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:40.559 Here's your host, Mark Webber. Funny way you get ideas. I 476 00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:45.200 often talk about the fact that this is original content and I have no idea 477 00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:47.599 when I finished the show what next week's show is going to be about. 478 00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.640 Lo and behold and walking down the street the other day on my four mile 479 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:54.920 walk and I passed the school and there's a rat in front of it, 480 00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.880 that big rubber balloon rat that represents the unions unhappy with a particularular institution. 481 00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:06.000 Found it really interesting that it was in front of a school. Turned out 482 00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:10.840 that the school was doing construction with non unionized workers. The unions were protesting 483 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.639 and trying to call them out as rats, which I find to be very 484 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:19.519 effective. I've had my experience with the rats. I thought it was very 485 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.400 funny, but it's interesting how everything's funny when it's not happening to you. 486 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:27.559 And it was turned around and I was responsible That rat made me nervous. 487 00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.920 I felt like a creep and I didn't like it, particularly because I grew 488 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.480 up in a family that was helped by the Union. Having said that, 489 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.559 it got me thinking and this show became the show called a rat. What 490 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:45.199 I really wanted to do is rat out to men. I can't believe what 491 00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:52.239 you guys look like. I can't believe how terrible you look and dress. 492 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.559 Yeah, I'm ratting you out. Hey. By the way, Jesse, 493 00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:59.599 this week you were on the morning show on WR. You were filling in 494 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:04.000 for Len Berman. You were with Michael Reidal. Yep, I was guest 495 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.280 hosting with him. Yeah, and somebody I know filled in one day. 496 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.920 He was a guest. Right. You called him up. I called you 497 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.760 up. You were on for a seven minute segment. We had you talk 498 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:15.320 about all different things. It was great having you on. But I love 499 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:22.360 the way that you started it. How you started it by bashing his outfit. 500 00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:24.480 You led me into it, Well, I said, you know, 501 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.840 I walk in. He's wearing a T shirt and shorts and he was driving 502 00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:30.679 his bike. He was sweaty when he came in, he was full of 503 00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:35.679 bugs, and you basically go, can we throw him in jail for wearing 504 00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:38.159 shorts? Yeah, he's to facing New York City. Well, you know 505 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:42.320 he listened, people don't see him, and he's like, I just worked 506 00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:45.800 out. I just was biking here, and you gave him such a hard 507 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:47.119 time. You know, what do you want from me? You guys were 508 00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.880 talking about it that morning. Yeah, but you know, I don't think 509 00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.519 he was expecting to be made fun of by you. Was hefended? No, 510 00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.039 No, he took it all in stride. And by the way, 511 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.800 it was great being on that show. Natalie, who's the producer of the 512 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:05.960 show, she puts it all together. Michael was amazing to be with. 513 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.199 And also I got to see our good pal Terry. Terry's our producer here 514 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.119 on Always in Fashion. He puts our show together every week, Terry Trand 515 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.880 Hey, Terry, Terry was awesome. I hadn't seen Terry since before the 516 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.639 pandemic in person. Yeah, so it was nice to see everybody, and 517 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:24.400 it was a great week. How did I do filling in for Lenn Berman? 518 00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.559 You were great. I enjoyed the whole thing. It's very fast paced. 519 00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.400 The only thing I didn't enjoy was me six minute seven minutes segment. 520 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:35.039 I mean, it takes six minutes for me to set up any story, 521 00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:37.480 and I had to tell five. I talked about Trump, I talked about 522 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.079 men's clothes, I talked about meeting Bernard or No, it's got to be 523 00:36:42.199 --> 00:36:45.440 fast paced. You know people's attention. Seven minutes is actually a rather long 524 00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:49.800 segment, believe it or not not for me doing an hour show. And 525 00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:52.239 you know, you got someone who knows how to talk. He's not in 526 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.599 experience. But nonetheless, the point is, I decided now I want to 527 00:36:55.679 --> 00:37:00.239 rat out to men. I can't believe what I'm looking at. It all 528 00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:06.760 stems from packaging. Yourself is as important as the products you're packaged. This 529 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:09.480 whole weekend, I played golf, I went to the club, I had 530 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:13.599 dinners. We had a July fourth dinner. We were the hundreds of people. 531 00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:17.280 Now I can tell you everyone there is all sizes, shapes, ages, 532 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:22.679 colors, But the women in general try and look their best. That 533 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:25.880 doesn't mean they're all beauties. They're not beauties. This is life. Not 534 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:30.320 everyone could be six foot two and beautiful. Same thing for the men. 535 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:34.679 But you could tell the women think it through and they cared. The men 536 00:37:35.320 --> 00:37:38.840 are horrendous. I spent the whole career. Look, I'm a corporate executive. 537 00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:43.760 That's what I had. I was a CEO of two huge companies, 538 00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:46.679 one in the United States and one that's owned by a company in France, 539 00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.360 and largist luxury company in the world. And I had to run companies, 540 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.199 had to manage people. I had to open stores. I had a thousands 541 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:59.559 and thousands of people relying with me, develop strategies and make things work. 542 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.400 But at the same time, when you're in the luxury fashioned retail business, 543 00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.320 you have to have a feeling for product that I always have and I always 544 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:08.320 will. And here we are this weekend. I go out on the golf 545 00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:15.679 course and there are only four people on the entire golf course wearing long pants. 546 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.000 Your brother Jared, you, me, and the mister coffee guy. 547 00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.480 Great guy. You could see he cares about the way he looks. When 548 00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:27.719 we talked to him, you could see he puts thought into his outfits. 549 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.639 There are other people who look great, but we were the only four. 550 00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:37.559 If I recall, everybody else is wearing shorts and they look disgusting. Okay, 551 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.079 first of all, I don't want to look at men's legs. I 552 00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.239 don't want to look at him. And the answer you get, of course, 553 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.920 it's so hot out. I have a question to ask, do you 554 00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:52.920 think that makes sense? Wearing shorts, exposing your legs right directly to the 555 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:55.760 sun, is cooler than wearing pants. Do you have a look at the 556 00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.840 people in the Mideast where they're in the desert outside side, in the hottest 557 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:05.800 sun in the world, and they're completely covered in robes and turbans. Why 558 00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:08.559 they figured out how to stay cool? This idea you wear shorts to be 559 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.840 cool is nonsense, nonsense. Well, wait a second, No one ever 560 00:39:14.880 --> 00:39:19.280 said they're comfortable in those outfits, the burkas and those outfits. No one 561 00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:22.519 ever said that they're nice, cool and comfortable. I don't believe the men's 562 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.719 outfits are called burker's. But for the purpose, of course, they're wearing 563 00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.679 it in the desert because it keeps them out of the heat of the sun. 564 00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:32.159 Now, I am sure this was a court of law, Jesse, 565 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.679 you would call an expert witness or a scientist explain to me how shorts are 566 00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:40.599 cooler. But there's no way in the world you're going to convince me of 567 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:44.480 that because I wear pants and I know the difference. I know what my 568 00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.480 arms feel like in the sun versus my body. It's totally different. But 569 00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:52.119 I'll go one stuff further while we're on the science of ratting out men. 570 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.800 You like being indoors when it's really hot out, Jess. I mean, 571 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:01.880 it's amazing. Air Conditioning isn't one of your favorite inventions of all time? 572 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.000 One of my favorite inventions of all time. In fact, the reality is 573 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:08.920 when you go indoors when it's hot out in the air condition it's freezing. 574 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:15.920 I must tell you I've probably had more luck with women by bringing a jacket 575 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.599 on a date with me or a sweater on a date from me, because 576 00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:22.840 whenever they got cold, I was able to hand from the sweater or the 577 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:25.480 jacket. They loved me. I'm such a sweet guy and paid off a 578 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:30.280 million times over in a million different ways. It's freezing inside. How many 579 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.880 times when you were dating Haley, did I give you a hard time? 580 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:37.440 Her a hard time for coming out without a jacket or top always and whenever 581 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.400 she would forget and I'd have to give her my jacket. You gave her 582 00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.480 like such a little mean luck. Yeah, because now you have to freeze 583 00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.480 and come because of her. Now I would tell you with mommy, I 584 00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:50.679 learned right on. She never wore a jacket, never brought a sweater. 585 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:52.960 She was freezing them inte we went anywhere, went to summ or whatever it 586 00:40:53.079 --> 00:40:55.639 was, I always had to give him my stuff. So I got smart. 587 00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.400 I wore a sweater and I brought a jacket. But the point is, 588 00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:04.159 men, your buffoons, your legs, the skinny legs, the fat 589 00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:07.039 legs, the tan legs, the white legs. I can only imagine what 590 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.800 you look like when you get undressed with that tan line at your knees and 591 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:13.639 at your waist. I want to throw up the whole idea of it. 592 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:17.840 And you want to say it's hot out, you're freezing inside. What the 593 00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.360 heck are the shorts for? They don't make sense outside and at night we're 594 00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:25.679 going to functions at night. There's a certain degree of refinement that's required when 595 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:30.360 you go to a nice restaurant or you're in a country club amongst your peers. 596 00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.320 This is not refined. It's ridiculous. And the funny thing about it 597 00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:38.199 is I watch and look closely at the guys doing this, and they're trying. 598 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:42.840 They wear a nice button down shirt, they might wear a nice sweater, 599 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:46.159 but then they wear these shorts and it looks ridiculous. It looks terrible. 600 00:41:46.199 --> 00:41:51.000 You don't look good in it. I'll give a credit maybe guys thirty 601 00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.360 five Ananda who really fit or tan or accessorize it. I used to like 602 00:41:54.480 --> 00:42:00.360 when they wore their hiking boots with the gray socks at the red trim them 603 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.800 and you look like the muscles at the knee. Whether it's hiking shorts or 604 00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:07.079 cargo shoots, those guys can actually pull it off. But the bulk of 605 00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:10.880 what I've seen ninety nine point nine percent is ridiculous. It doesn't make sense. 606 00:42:10.920 --> 00:42:15.280 And they're trying to look good. I've seen them. I go out 607 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.480 to restaurants. I've been beautiful restaurants over the weekend. They walk in with 608 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.039 their shorts and I want to throw up. But the worst of all is 609 00:42:22.079 --> 00:42:28.440 the sandals defeat. What signal? Can you tell me, Jessee? What 610 00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:32.239 signals someone sending. When I show up in shorts with sandals, I would 611 00:42:32.280 --> 00:42:37.639 be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks that that actually looks good. I 612 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.480 think they're all doing it because they want to feel comfortable. It's disgusting. 613 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.519 You know, in certain religions, when someone passes away, you're forbidden to 614 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:50.159 give your shoes to the family that you've worn. And the logic has been 615 00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:54.719 back in ancient times, everyone's feet were infected. They're walking without the comforts 616 00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.280 of we have today. So the methodology was you can't give your shoes to 617 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:05.440 to your survivors. You're walking around without socks. You're stepping on crap your 618 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:10.239 feet a dirty socks protect your feet, they keep you warm, they do 619 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:16.719 everything. This makes no sense, and you'll look disgusting. You all look 620 00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:21.519 like amateurs next to your wife. And with all due respect, I don't 621 00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.760 want to pick on old people, but the older you get, the worst 622 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:30.920 you look without socks. It is ridiculous and I have to look at this. 623 00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.400 It's time to rat you mutants out. You're all rats. You know 624 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.480 what people say to me. So Michael Rito, when we went off there, 625 00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.599 he goes, well, what do you wear to the beach. I 626 00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:45.280 told him, I wear sneakers. He's like sneakers. I said to them, 627 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.920 you think James Bond wears sandals, he goes, No, James Bond 628 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:52.360 wears Espadrills. I was like, maybe that works Espatroll's work. Well. 629 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:58.119 James bonded the first couple like a goldfinger, wore sandals. It was yeah, 630 00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.639 but he also wore a terry cloth jumpsuit. You know he wasn't refined 631 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.719 en of you. You wouldn't find a look. You tell me Pis Brosnen 632 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:10.559 is wearing shorts and sandals. No, and neither is Daniel Craig. I'm 633 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:15.360 not so sure about that. But okay, guys who are million dollars smiles 634 00:44:15.360 --> 00:44:20.400 and look the part and could get away with it. Maybe, but that's 635 00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:23.199 not who you are. I go to the beach, I wear white pants, 636 00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:28.079 I wear white sneakers, I wear white socks. But you know I'm 637 00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:30.639 going home. I'm full of sand. I might not wear the white socks, 638 00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:34.679 but my feet are tan. They look good without socks. But I 639 00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.119 would never go to the beach and shorts. I won't even go to the 640 00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:40.519 beach and just the bathing suit because I don't feel you're completing the outfit. 641 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.440 I have beautiful white cargo pants that I would wear to the beach. I'd 642 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:49.840 wear a T shirt. I may wear a sweatshirt because they know it gets 643 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.000 cold and it gets windy. But you don't walk around this way. I 644 00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.760 don't want to see you. And the ones that have the belts pulled in 645 00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.440 with the bellies tucked over the shorts, the ones that their bellies arrive five 646 00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:06.920 minutes to the location before the rest of them do. It is so disgusting. 647 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.320 I like the ones who leave their shirt hanging out, like we don't 648 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:15.320 see your belly because of that. Am I being too unfair? No? 649 00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:17.760 I think this is a wake up call for a lot of people. But 650 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.920 I also feel like people already know this, they just didn't want to hear 651 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:25.400 it. Those guys, are you a single who want to have some sexy 652 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:30.400 time? You guys out there trying to meet new women? You guys out 653 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:34.880 there who are married Jack Jones one of my favorite songs of all time. 654 00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.519 I never forgot it. Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix 655 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:45.440 your makeup. Soon he will walk through the door. Don't think because there's 656 00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:52.280 a ring on your finger, you needn't try any more. For wives should 657 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.800 always be lovers too, run to the door when he comes home to you. 658 00:45:58.199 --> 00:46:01.679 I'm warning you, hey, girls, you know that. Guys, 659 00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.800 what are you doing? What are you doing? There's not a place I 660 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.280 go where the wives don't look better than the men. There's not a place 661 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:12.119 I go where the women don't look better than the guys. Now, I'm 662 00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.199 not telling you all how to get dressed all the time. I'm not telling 663 00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:17.840 you went to wala Hawaiian shirts or black shirts or whatever. But really, 664 00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.800 let's take disgusting off the table. Now for a rat, so be it. 665 00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:27.000 This rat is trying to help you. We'll take a break back in 666 00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.760 a minute. Always in fashion, I've been shopping for fun lately, and 667 00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.360 while I'm out, I always look at men's and I look at women's. 668 00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:39.559 What's going on? And I was particularly interested in Decay because of their sponsorship 669 00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:44.920 of the show. I went downstairs at Macy's thirty fourth Street to look around, 670 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.480 and I saw Decamy active where And I promise you, ladies, it 671 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.400 is sensational. From the sports braws to the crop tops, to the leggings 672 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.320 and the sweats. It really is a great look. And Decay had begun 673 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:02.000 as an all American brand. Dress seeing casual clothes engines and the stuff looks 674 00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.760 incredible and right now, the colors and the styles is so exciting that I 675 00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:10.559 feel great about the company. I always do. I wear the men's wear 676 00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.760 all the time. I've had situations where I've gone to big events and been 677 00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:20.440 interviewed in TV or radio and someone comes up to me in the microphone and 678 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:22.199 like they always do, who you wearing? And here I am, this 679 00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.159 big shot with big company and they said, well, I'm wearing a DKNY 680 00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.960 and they laugh and say, no, you're not. Actually have one on 681 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.599 the internet where you could see me. They asked me what suit I'm wearing, 682 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:35.599 and I say dk Andy and opened it up and there's the DKNY label. 683 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.599 Great fashion. It fits well, it looks right. It's designed to 684 00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:43.320 make you comfortable in the city, goes from day and to night. You 685 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.000 can wear it in the morning and wear in the afternoon and you look cool 686 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:49.320 at night as well. It's great for the office as great fulisia. But 687 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.199 I was talking about the dcmy activewear. The first time I really became aware 688 00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.480 of that. Jesse and I were up at Sirius Radio. He was doing 689 00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.239 a job for serious He does Dan Abrams show, he fills in on the 690 00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:05.159 Potus Network, and we're in the lobby and this hip hop group came up 691 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:12.360 with this really great looking Latino singer girl Young Beautiful, and she was wearing 692 00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.519 a dk and Y sports bar and I said to myself, this is amazing. 693 00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.519 Actually went to Macy's to see it, and I'm excited about the brand. 694 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.480 And I'll tell you what, ladies, dk Y always has great fashion 695 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:27.880 for work, always wonderful dresses and things that you'd wear. Their accessories are 696 00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:31.079 great, the shoes are always very cool. But activewear in particular right now 697 00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.639 looks sensational and being that everyone's athleisure in activewear, it's a great time dcmy 698 00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:40.119 go take a look. As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, 699 00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:45.960 Carl Lagofeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His 700 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:51.800 unique vision of Parisian ship comes to America through Carlagofeld Paris. He has women's 701 00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.440 collections, men's collections, ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. 702 00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.760 The fashion house car Lagofeld also offers a range of watches, eye wearing premium 703 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:05.679 fagrances. You can explore the Carlogoflle collection at Carlogofelle Paris dot com. But 704 00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.920 it's more than that. I for one, love to shop. I love 705 00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:12.840 going around and seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what would make 706 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.639 me feel good to wear now. I don't wear the women's wear obviously, 707 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.280 but I can appreciate it and may look amazing. If you want to look 708 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:22.440 right, you want to have clothes that fits you well. You want to 709 00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:29.280 look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you and yours. 710 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:34.599 You can find it at very affordable prices at Macy's Socarlogofel dot com Paris. 711 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:37.679 The women's ready to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the handbags 712 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:43.760 in the shoes. I for one wear men's clothes, and unlike my appreciation 713 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.440 of women's clothes, I'm a modern guy. I want to look current. 714 00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.079 I want to look the way I want to feel. I go out at 715 00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:53.280 night, I'm in black and Carlagafel is my buddy. Clothes are great, 716 00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:57.159 they fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches, whether it's a 717 00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.440 stripe on the sleeve, or button at the neck or on the s shoulder. 718 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.679 There's a lot of details that go into Carlagafeld because he's always been, 719 00:50:04.760 --> 00:50:07.880 he always had been one of the world's great designers, and this legacy and 720 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.360 goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say to 721 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.000 you, you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know that 722 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:19.480 you're dressing properly. You want close that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld, 723 00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:24.920 Paris at Macy's or Karlgafel dot com. Welcome back to Always in Fashion. 724 00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:30.480 Here's your host, Mark Webber. Tonight, the show's a Rat. I 725 00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.559 intended to come into you and be on the dark side and rebuilding nasty guy 726 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:37.880 because it seems that I'm happier being nasty, not being nice and sweet. 727 00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:42.239 It seems that I enjoy myself when I'm on the dark side. But in 728 00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:45.360 the end, the whole subject of a rat, it turned out to be 729 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:49.159 a fun night for me. I didn't expect that it started with a rat. 730 00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:54.039 You know that big gray rubber rat balloon that's representative the union's protesting in 731 00:50:54.079 --> 00:51:00.840 places. That's one second had to do with being a rat because of being 732 00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:05.559 good guys in the world of manufacturing. And then, of course I talked 733 00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:09.039 about the rat pack in my alter ego Escalante. I think that was really 734 00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:14.119 funny unless, but not least seriously, I'm routing out the men. The 735 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:17.960 way you're dressed. You look like crap. You look like buffoons, you 736 00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:22.960 look like amateurs. Neck to the women you're with. It's unbelievable. And 737 00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.840 I know you think you look good. I know you're trying by the shirts 738 00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:30.880 you choose and some of the things you accessorize, the nice watches, you 739 00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:35.400 comb your hair, but you look terrible. And those of you who are 740 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:39.039 wearing shorts and sandals, I have no idea what you're going for. Jesus 741 00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:45.159 was cool, You're not. It doesn't look good. Okay, now having 742 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:50.840 said it, I had a great time tonight talking a rat and dealing with 743 00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.679 the rats that I hope you enjoyed tonight Show Talk Today next week