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the stars. You know, I
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you have to be excited about the
future life. Life cannot just be about

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solving one problem after another. They
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sort of move your heart and that
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morning. And I think being becoming
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things. If you ask kids anywhere
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are some of the most inspiring things? You can ask a like five year

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you know, space expiration is one
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to make sure that we're you know
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to run the Apollo program. I
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You would have done a fantastic job. But the the point is that

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the Apollo program was something I was
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we don't want the Apollo program to
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future is going to be better than
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out there, going to other star
systems, and you know what you see

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in a science science fiction, non
dystopian sci fi story, of which there

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are not many, but like Star
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Star Trek alone along, when I
think about you, let's look at spots

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from Star Trek here space the Fighting
Frontier. These are the voyages of the

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starship Andrew Browns, your ongoing mission
to explore strange new worlds, to seek

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out new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no one has

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gone before. So when I think
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Captain Kirk, and you're going to
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there, we might I mean,
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alien civilizations. If physics is correct, the universe is about thirteen point eight

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billion years old. Earth is about
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So but at thirteen point eight billion
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years is three digits past the decimal
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ancient Sumerians Archaic week pre Cuneiform,
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that is one million of Earth's lifespan. That's how long writing has existed.

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be incredible and would actually probably be
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this is this causes me to think
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Enrico Fermi. He's like, where
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think there are aliens among us?
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movie Men in Black. Yes,
yes, yes, I told us they're

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among us and Elvis really went back
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I mean, really, a lot
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of the same people who think there
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think we went to the moon,
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a second, you know, so, but I think I would I mean,

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if I've not seen any evidence of
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has roughly six thousand satellites and and
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a UFO. Okay, so we
were like, hey, what's that is

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that an alien has occurred? Never? So so I'm like, Okay,

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has evidence of aliens in a in
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buzzy blob, then I'd love to
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concern, because you could if any
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were to last for a million years, even with a speed of travel that's

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far below the speed of light,
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speed of light, they could easily
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or perast probably is that that civilization
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you should really think of human civilization
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vast darkness, and we should do
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not go out. Al I thought
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on X viewing this session and the
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I'd give you a few of your
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Okay, let's start with this one. Free speech. Freedom of speech is

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the bedrock of democracy. Without it, America ends. Yes, it's obviously

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not possible to have democratic elections if
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that would allow them to make the
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people to make the right decision or
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from being informed. I think it's
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I say, like, why is
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members because people came from countries where
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or killed. That was why they
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should make sure that we got that
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they tried to try to kill us
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we didn't like a political candidate.
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of the world, you know,
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world, you can't really say what
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the constitution there is to protect the
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they're it's to make it hard to
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Yeah, forget about that, but
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Let's try the next quote. Yeah, the fundamental error of socialism is shifting

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capital allocation from highly effective entrepreneurs to
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we'll find hearty agreement in this room. So yeah, I think that this

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is this is definitely a stack deck
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the you know, there's so you'll
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we shouldn't have some greedy corporation do
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do it. I'm like, well, actually, the government is just a

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corporation in the limit. So if
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a corporation with a monopoly on violence. So if you're unhappy with a commercial

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corporation doing it. You should be
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since it is simply the a corporation, the most corporate thing. And

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you know, you can actually easily
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can out of a company than you
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everyone's experienced this. Going to the
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you want the DMV at scale?
Probably not? Okay, all right,

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let's the government is the DMV at
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on the basis of anything other than
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you go down the path, if
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based, then then where do you
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need to be as rigorous about merit
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yeah, to me, that seems
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based situation. But yeah, that's
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think we should be yeah, not
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right, good, I'm happy you
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I'm like, wait, who is
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All right, so let's let's look
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consistency. Like Gulliver tied down by
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freedom one regulation at a time.
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important point that I think is not
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are immortal. They don't die.
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last forever. So if over a
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regulations passed and more regulatory bodies created, eventually everything will be illegal. And

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that's why you see the California High
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that doesn't even have rail on it, and for I don't know, several

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of regulation has been war. Now, we prefer not to have a war.

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you have to actively eliminate laws and
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a garbage collection process for rules and
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hardening of the arteries and over time
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example that I kindk of that happened
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California High Speed Rail, which is, you know, it's just billions of

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dollar spent forul practically nothing, but
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essential or civilization comes grinding to a
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sunset. That that regulation with sunset. Unfortunately it's rare today. Yes,

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all right, let's talk about education. The more you can gamify the process

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of learning the better. You do
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video games. No, they will
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more compelling and far easier. You
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the way education works today is really
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where every town would have their their
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of acting troupe and that would be
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be the entertainment. So you know
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you'd have you know, much better
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in video games, where you take
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like whether they're acting, writing,
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you know, tens of millions sometimes
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movie or a great video game,
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in Bakersfield. Okay, then you
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you know, the Nolan Brothers,
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as possible. And you do not
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a teacher in front of a board
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want it to be engaged, real
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to forget as much as possible.
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mind can establish relevance or there is
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you're going to basically to forget forget
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evolutionary standpoint, so it's trying to
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teaching a course, you have to
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engine, we're gonna try to understand
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We're going to take it apart.
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take it apart. Well, we
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we need a hoist and a pulley, and we're going to take it

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apart and we're going to see how
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along the way you learn about wrenches, and screwdrivers and you know all the

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tools that are needed. That's that
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way teaching more typically works is we're
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and of course on wrenches, and
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course on wrenches? It's not obvious
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some calculus. Without explaining what caculus
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it. Yeah, well, we
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that area. Let's talk about a
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Elon on immigration. I'm very much
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for anyone who is talented, hard
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it's difficult, in agonizing slow to
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it's trivial and fast to enter illegally. This obviously makes no sense, right,

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I mean, what's again? I
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mean I've been been through. It's
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And with COVID, it's uh,
it's it's it's like sort of Kafka

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esque, very long, bizarre process
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I mean, I have friends of
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get their their wife to have a
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on the other hand, it's you
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trivially, it's just like very easy. I went to the water myself just

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see like what's going on? Is
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or real? And so I just
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it is real. Okay, this
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and I'm like, uh, it
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like, are we checking anyone here
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know, we don't. It does
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a big believer in immigration, but
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arrest before disaster. So I'm in
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having a secure southern border. So
there's some betting of who comes into the

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United States. I think this is
just sensible. All right, Let's now

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link starlink to education. We're basically
building the Internet in space. Why it

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matters, starlink is a massive enabler
for people in remote locations to learn anything.

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Yes, you can learn almost anything
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For example, people MIT has all
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you have Internet. If you don't, you're limited to books. It might

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be the number one technology that improves
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Starlink Yeah, absolutely So once you
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access to all the world's information.
But if you don't have access to the

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Internet, or it's too expensive or
low bandwidth, then you cannot access the

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MIT lessons. You can't access all
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goods and services that you produce.
So Internet connectivity, I think is I

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think it might be certainly a candidate
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more to lift people out of out
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now sell their goods and services.
They can learn anything, but without connectivity

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they cannot. So uh, I
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actually like like move the GDP of
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of thing, because what is what
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per person, And so if there's
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you would expect to see that actually
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Right, civilization is fragile. I
think it is. We should always regard

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civilization as fragile. Yeah, there
is not an inevitable upward trajectory. A

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lot of civilizations have risen and fallen
in recent years. Yes, I suspect

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most people in this room have actually
read history. But if you haven't,

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I strongly recommended it sounds obvious,
but you know, there's there's been but

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so many civilizations that have risen and
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much of a record of. You
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like the language was forgotten for a
long time until it was finally decoded

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only in the last two three hundred
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and something, right in eighteen hundreds, I think, but it's been very

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recent. Like so for several thousand
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are many long dead civilizations at some
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end too, we just don't want
it to be anytime soon. So,

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or you've been quoted a number of
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Mars but not on landing. Yes, yes, I was. I was

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asked that in an interview if I
wanted to die on Mars. But then

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I considered the corner case of dying
on impact, and like, except for

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that case, Uh, you know, youve got to consider the various corner

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cases. So, I mean,
if we're gonna if you're gonna die somewhere,

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might as well be Mars. I'd
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you know, dying. But yeah, I think we want to be a

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multi planet civilization, and like,
I think I don't know if that's respond

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some questions from the I mean,
I could accomplish this actually, uh,

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this year, if I if I
was willing to die on impact. The

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fundamental invention that is necessary for humanity
to become a multi planet species is rapidly

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reusable, reliable rockets. Yeah,
I was trying to sound like a pirate

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r R R r uh, but
yeah, rapidly, we're usable, reliable

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rockets, so space pirates for the
win. All right, here's some questions

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from the audience. Alon, which
one would you like to pick? Here?

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touch upon why I think making like
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of the things that gets us past
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in trying to sort of explain why
do we not see aliens, there are

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various explanations for why we don't see
aliens, like what stuffed those civilizations from

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from expanding beyond their solar system,
and and what were the what were the

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sort of that sometimes called like Fermi
filters. Well, if you don't become

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a multiplanet civilization, then you're then
you're simply waiting around until you you die

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from a self inflicted wound or from
something some natural disaster like the dinosaurs,

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you get hit by a big media
write or something like that. The eventually

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something like that's going to happen.
If and if you wait a lot around

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long enough, the Sun will expand
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So that that for sure is going
to happen. Now that we've got to

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we've got some time before that happens. There are more neo term risks.

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But we want to try to get
past the Fermi filter of being a single

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planet civilization. Now, this is
gonna this is all said. This is

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going to be somewhat cerebral to many
people listening. But I mean if but

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like I think this is pretty this
is actually very important. We want to

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get past the Fermi filter of a
single planet sovilization. The point is not

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to move from Earth to another planet
and let Earth die if That's not what

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there we have planetary redundancy such that
no single event can end can be the

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end of our civilization. That is
the point of making life multiplanetary. So

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let's take a couple of questions from
the audience. How does AI affect and

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how will it affect our daily lives? AI? I mean AI might be

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the most important question of all.
I mean, the percentage of intelligence that

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is biological, you know, grows
smaller with each passing month. Eventually the

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percentage of intelligence that is biological will
be less than one percent. The that's

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actually not what I mean. We
just, I guess, don't want AI

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that is brittle. If the AI
is somehow brittle, you know, silicon

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circuit boards are don't do well just
out in the elements. So I think

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I think biological intelligence can serve as
a backstops, as a buffer of intelligence,

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but almost all as a percentage,
almost all intelligence will be digital.

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So then it's like, well,
what role will there be for us?

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I don't know. I do think
I think it's very important that we build

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the AI in a way that that
is beneficial to humanity. And there's some

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important principles here. Because I thought
about AI safety for a very long time.

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very important. The AI should not
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be taught to say things that are
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politically incorrect, it should still say
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true. I mean, the entire
plot of two thousand and one Space Odyssey,

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the reason that Hell nine thousand killed
the astronauts was because it was forced

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to lie. I don't know if
most people realize that that's what author cy

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Clock was trying to say, don't
make the AI lie. I was told

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that that the astronauts could not know
the secret of the monolith, but also

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that it must take them to the
monolith. The solution take them to the

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monolith dead, and so so it's
very important to have a maximum truth seeking

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AI and a maximumly curious AI,
and I think that will that's most likely

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to foster human civilization because we are
much more interesting than a bunch of rocks.

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So although I think Mars, I
love Mars obviously, but you could

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render Mars quite easily because it kind
of looks like a section of the Arizona

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Desert, you know, it's like
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rendering complexity of human civilization is fastly
greater by many orders of magnitude. So

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I think an AI would be that
that is truth seeking, maximally curious,

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would foster human civilization. To see
where it goes. One of the questions

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here, can AI accelerate your efforts
in space? How do you see it

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being helping you and what you're trying
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one of the areas where there's almost
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So SpaceX uses. Basically, no
AI starlink users does not use AI.

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I'm not against using it, they're
just we haven't seen a use for it.

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I mean with any given variant of
or improvement in AI. The I

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mean there's generally, like I'll ask
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rocket engine design, about electro chemistry, and so far the AI has been

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terrible at all of those questions.
There's still a long way to go.

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So let's let's talk about one.
Here's a question that's near and dear to

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your heart. You have a lot
of children. Yes, I'm trying to

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say a bit. Birth rate is
down in the US. What needs to

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change so people start having more children? Yeah? So this, this question

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is troubled me for a long time
because you can look at you can look

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at the demograh like demographics. It's
a very slow moving ship. I mean,

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you know who is going to be
an adult in twenty years based on

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who was born last year. So
and and if you want to, I

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think have a good approximation for population, really look at how many babies were

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born last year in a particular country. Mulply that, multiply that by life

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expectancy, that's that's that's the number
of people that will be adults in that

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country. That's that's the that's the
steady state population if birth rate remain is

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constant. Now birth rate is not
constantly is dropping. So you look at

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the second road of a birth rate
and actually we see an acceleration in uh,

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the dropping dropping in the dropping the
fertality rate. Second river of the

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totality rate is very bad. So
where does this lead? This does not

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lead to an eight greater civilization.
This leads to a civilization that potentially dies

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not with a bag, but with
a whimper in adult diapers. That is

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a sad ending. So obviously we
have countries that, like Korea used to

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have a birth rate of six it's
now three quarters. Yeah, here's here's

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a light question for you. What
do you incompany? Me? Gi you

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a baby? Says one? What
do you think? That is one of

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the things that says on the screen. I don't know if everyone heard that.

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You want to read it. It
says, elon, come pick me

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up, I'll give you a baby, thank you? Okay, Well,

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I mean I suddenly encourage everyone in
this room to have at least three children,

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like looks maybe it's got to come
from somewhere, you know. And

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I think we just want to have
I don't know. I think we would

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have like a slightly increasing population,
not a plummeting population, you know.

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And I think the supplies to all
countries and cultures, Like I don't think

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we want any country culture to disappear. We want them to ideally flourish and

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not disappear. So in fact,
one of the things that is overlooked by

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probably most historians is the role of
low birth rate in the decline of civilizations.

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give a bonus to any Roman citizen
that would have a third child, So

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this was a birthrate was a problem
in Rome in fifty BC, the Romans

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weren't making Romans. The same is
true of ancient Greece. So there was

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a time from about eight hundred BC
to three hundred ish BC where the Greeks

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had a lot of kids and a
lot of surviving kids. Like the birthrate

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far exceeded the death rate, which
is why you had Greek cities popping up

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all over the Mediterranean. But then
I think basically it seems to be that

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prosperity is destroys the birth rate.
So if when a civilization feels like it

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has no meaningful external threat and is
very prosperous, that is what caused the

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birth rate to plummet. So on
counterintitively, you think, well, if

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you've got more resources, show that
would lead to more kids. In fact,

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it is the opposite. The more
prosperous a civilization and the more civilization

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feels that it does not need to
defend against external threats, the lower the

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birth rate. I'd say that,
you know, there's a lot of research

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on there. There's really been three
one number one prosperity, as you've said,

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Number two improvements in healthcare. So
in nineteen hundred half the children died

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on the planet before the fifth and
the third was the education of women.

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So we've had some pretty interesting questions
put up here, but let's try this

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one. What keeps you up at
night and what gives you joy? Well,

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I think kids give me joy.
So I probably get the most story

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from my kids. And you know, I'm not saying that that's the reason

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to have kids, because we have
them anyway, but I certainly kids are

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certainly are the greatest us of joy
in my life in terms of what keeps

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me up at night, I guess
there's anything that's, like I think,

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a civilizational risk, you know,
if we're the birth weights continuing to plummet,

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like I do think about the birth
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I think anything that undermines the foundations
of democracy in America or elsewhere as

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a risk. I think anything that's
leading us away from a merit based system

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is a risk. I actually spend
like like I listened to I listened to

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like podcasts about the Full of Civilizations
to go to sleep, so Pepsi's that

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might be part of the problem here
bisnically a podcast called Full of Civilizations which

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I listened to a few times.
And I also recommend hardcore history if you

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haven't listened to that great podcast.
I listened to listen to history podcasts basically

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go to sleep. So that's probably
why I'm ruminating on these things as I

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go to sleep well a lot.
I want to thank you for joining us

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today, and we couldn't be more
excited that you agree with some of your

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own quotes. Yeah, it's great, Thank you much. To stay updated

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