WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:09.080 All right. Joining us now is Tony Rdman and of why is Wolf Gold. 2 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.880 Of course Tony has set up David Night not Gold to let him to 3 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.000 take you to his website. Let him know that you're coming through me. 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:19.519 Good to have Tony on because last week he was in Mexico speaking at a 5 00:00:19.519 --> 00:00:22.280 conference. Thanks for joining us, Tony. Tell us a little bit about 6 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.879 that conference. Well, thanks for having me back, David. I had 7 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:31.440 a great time. It was Anarcapoco in Acapoco, Mexico, the Dollar Vigilante 8 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:36.600 and Crypto Vigilante crowd. I sponsored the event. I was the only gold 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.679 sponsor and I got to speak on Crypto Day, so I had forty minutes 10 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:45.200 on Valentine's Day in the morning to speak and it went really well, you 11 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:51.240 know, these are people that and again the theme to the Dollar Vigilante is 12 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:55.240 surviving and thriving after the dollar collapse. And that's been Jeff Berwick, who's 13 00:00:55.240 --> 00:00:58.679 the founder of that. That's been his mantra for years and years, and 14 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.560 now we're really seeing and that's what I spoke about on Crypto Day, and 15 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:06.840 I said, you know, golden crypto and silver precious metals, these go 16 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:11.439 together because this is a we're creating a parallel system. You know, you 17 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.799 have Gresham's law that states when bad money enters a system, good money goes 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.480 into hiding. And I think that's coming to fruition. You know, the 19 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.560 good money's coming out of hiding because the bad money to enter the system is 20 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.480 crashing the system itself. And so that's what I spoke about. You know, 21 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:34.159 everywhere you look is d dollarization everywhere. Yeah, and it's accelerating. 22 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:38.200 I was looking at a story this morning, just facts and figures. You 23 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.120 know, you look at the Russian economy. Two years ago, only one 24 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:47.680 percent of financial transactions went on in the Chinese you want, now it's thirty 25 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:52.400 four percent, and they completely abandoned the dollar. When I opened up my 26 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:55.519 talk and Anarchopolco, I said, the first thing I said was when I 27 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:57.079 was twenty three years old, I got to see a currency die in real 28 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:02.359 time. I pay per currency, and you know Voltaire's maxim that all paper 29 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:07.280 currency eventually returns to its natural value state, which is zero. And that's 30 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:12.159 looking at something happened to the Iraqi dinar, you know, And we were 31 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.680 told the first mission I had in Mosul, when the Iraqi Republican guard fell 32 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:19.919 was to go to the bank, and there wasn't any other orders other than 33 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:24.000 try to find some semblance of security because everybody's running out with boxes of Iraqi 34 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:28.879 dinar with Saddam Hussein's picture on them, but they were worthless. Nobody wanted 35 00:02:28.919 --> 00:02:31.400 them. And I said, now, now think about this, folks. 36 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:37.319 Twenty plus years later, I'm talking to you, and the Iraqi Parliament is 37 00:02:37.400 --> 00:02:42.240 making it illegal for you to transact in dollars, especially for major Iraqi banks. 38 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.599 They are abandoning the dollar. What does that say because the only currency 39 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:51.400 that you could use post US invasion in Iraq in two thousand and three upwards 40 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:54.039 till the last, you know, a couple of years was American dollars. 41 00:02:54.159 --> 00:03:00.280 Yeah, think about how far that how far the US dollar has fallen in 42 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.039 the last twenty plus, twenty plus years. It's absolutely amazing. That's amazing. 43 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:07.639 Yeah, I wonder you know how much one of the Iraqi notes with 44 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:15.360 Saddam husse Haines pictron is compared to Confederate note with Jefferson Davis's picture on what's 45 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:19.520 exchange rate for those two currencies that they've gone to zero except for a collect 46 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:23.319 probably the Confederate. He's a collector's item, so you know, it's got 47 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:27.000 somebody from that standpoint. But yeah, that's that's where it always goes. 48 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:32.199 But that truly is amazing because you know, Iraq is is really still heavily 49 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.919 influenced with the US troops there and all the rest of that stuff, but 50 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:38.360 they don't want to use the US dollar. Well, it's because, I 51 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:44.759 think because of Iran's influence in the region, and now they're Shia based in 52 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:49.240 their governance. You know, Saddam Hussein was Sunni and of course the Sunni 53 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.400 triangle and the Sunnia the minority, and now the Shia are the actual majority 54 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:57.840 in Iraq, and I think that's what's happening, is the long term d 55 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:02.960 dollarization and waning US geopolitical hegemony. You could just it's showing its face right 56 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.840 there. Yeah, that's really all you need to know. And that's an 57 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.680 important point too when you talk about the Shiahs and the Sunnis, and of 58 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:15.080 course we also got the hobbyists in Saudi Arabia. Islam is not this monolithic 59 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.480 thing. It's got all these different factions and just like Christianity was in the 60 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:26.240 Middle Ages, these different denominations if you will, of Islam are politically connected. 61 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.720 You know that they have a unification, just like they did at the 62 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:32.600 time in the Middle Ages, there was this you know connection politically as well 63 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:35.279 as with the church, and it was really the politics. It was more 64 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:41.000 important than that was the religious aspect. And so that's that's where these these 65 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:45.439 Islamic countries are right now. And people think of them as monolithic, but 66 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.839 they're not, and they're they're fighting each other, not just us. Oh, 67 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:53.079 absolutely non monolithic. It wasn't George W. Bush And said there's different 68 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.839 types of Muslims, like he couldn't believe it like that. It was actually 69 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.920 I think it was Joe Biden when he maybe a moment of lucidity or a 70 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:02.439 talking point from the think tank he said, I mean, this is like 71 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.879 twenty plus years ago. He's like, well, maybe Iraq should be divided 72 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:09.519 into three parts, you know, the Kurdish North soon he triangle in the 73 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.600 middle, and then the rest is Shia. And I thought, well that 74 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:15.680 might make sense if someone I've lived there for a year and that was you 75 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:18.079 know, different combat for a year there. So I know I know a 76 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:25.240 decent amount about Iraqi history and culture. So yeah, it's not monolithic at 77 00:05:25.279 --> 00:05:29.720 all. But I think one of the things that unites them all across the 78 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:33.600 Arab world, whether you're talking about Saudi Arabia or Iran is the dollarization. 79 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:38.560 They're moving away from the dollar. The petro dollar is dying. Why this 80 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:43.879 is not headline news all over the the financial network should be talking about this, 81 00:05:44.040 --> 00:05:47.800 not the fang stocks. Yeah, I mean what importance is that if 82 00:05:47.839 --> 00:05:53.879 the dollar dies literally, you know that you have Saudi Arabia is bricks plus. 83 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.279 Now that's official. This was theory a year ago where saying, well, 84 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:00.720 you know, Saudi Arabia's and talks with Brazil, Shandia, China, 85 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.639 South Africa, which was already forty percent of the world's population. Then you 86 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:10.240 had Saudi Arabia is game over. Now we're still it's funny, We're just 87 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:15.519 we're in the shadow of the once dominating dollar and it's going away. And 88 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:20.879 I'm that's my Really, everything I'm talking about lately is leading back to d 89 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.879 dollarization. What happens afterwards, because I don't think that the horse has left 90 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.279 the barn and only you can't do anything at this point, even David, 91 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:33.160 I don't even know if World War III would bring the dollar back to its 92 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:39.000 original dominant Yeah, so were you look at Saudi Arabia joining the bricks. 93 00:06:39.040 --> 00:06:41.759 I mean, that's it right there, because they were really the lynch pin. 94 00:06:41.839 --> 00:06:44.879 You know, we had Saudi Arabia and he had Iran with a shaw 95 00:06:45.600 --> 00:06:50.240 and that was the US power within you know, the well production producing area 96 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:56.279 and then tying that all to the US dollar and them buying US weapons and 97 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:59.639 that type of thing. When Saudi's lead, because we were lost in ran 98 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:02.360 a long time ago. But when the Saudias lead, that's it. That's 99 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:06.519 really the Petro dollar right there. End of game. Yeah, that's all 100 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:11.680 she wrote. And then the dollars propped up by something called money velocity. 101 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:15.600 And we spoke about this many times, but money velocities, basically, it's 102 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:19.120 like the Ponzi scheme. When you quit using it, it's or maybe you 103 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:23.120 could liken it to tinker Bell. If you don't clap, tinker Bell dies, 104 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:25.600 and the same thing with the dollar. You don't use it, it 105 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:29.000 dies, and you got you've got eighty percent of all the one hundred dollar 106 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.759 bills ever made in physical form are not in the United States of America. 107 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:34.920 They're being used around the world. And that's when I saw, you know, 108 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:40.120 as a young soldier, when I saw people just dumping the Iraqi dinar 109 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:44.560 it's went to zero and using the American dollar. I thought, okay, 110 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:47.480 well this is pretty universal. Now they're not using the dollar that's slowly going 111 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:51.839 away. You have, there's a gold boom going on in China. They're 112 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:58.079 not exporting. As a matter of fact, the Swiss the six year high 113 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.959 on gold exports to India and China. So even in the midst of China's 114 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:09.839 real estate decline, its massive bubble and recession, they've overbuilt. Their currency 115 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:13.720 is in real trouble, but they are buying gold, and while the rest 116 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:16.120 of the world sleeps, I don't think they realize what's happening well. And 117 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.759 of course commercial real state issue that's there, but even beyond that, China 118 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:24.360 was way overbuilt in other things, and the stock market getting very very shaky 119 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:31.079 now with these big companies getting shaky like Evergrand and they imposed they basically just 120 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:35.080 stopped a company that was selling too much stock too quickly because they're afraid that 121 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.440 the whole market there is going to collapse. That's how shaky it is in 122 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:43.799 China, so they're putting all kinds of draconian restrictions on their stock market. 123 00:08:43.960 --> 00:08:48.960 There's an interesting article from International Man the number one warning sign that capital controls 124 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:54.320 are coming soon. Just like the Chinese are putting controls on the stock market, 125 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.879 we could have these capital controls happen here on cash and all the rest 126 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.120 of this stuff. And as he points out, he said, sorry and 127 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.759 done in a lot of different countries. Argentina, Lebanon, Venezuela, Iceland, 128 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:09.399 Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, China, India, 129 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:15.000 South Korea, and governments and countless other countries have done these capital controls and 130 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:18.279 done it recently. And so what's the sign that is going to happen here 131 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.519 in the United States? He said, The warning sign to look out for 132 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:26.679 is when they say it's not going to happen. When they started, they 133 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.480 started to talk about it and say, well, you know the capital, 134 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.039 so don't worry, it's not going to happen. That's when you've got to 135 00:09:33.039 --> 00:09:35.360 be concerned that it's going to happen real soon after that. Right, It's 136 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:39.360 like the early seventies with price controls. Yeah, and took us off the 137 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.480 gold standard in August nineteen seventy one, and then that followed with price controls 138 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:48.320 because they had to figure out how to stop the runaway inflation. Gold went 139 00:09:48.399 --> 00:09:52.240 up two thousand percent in the nineteen seventies, but gold didn't go up in 140 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:56.039 value, so run that through. That's what. Actually, it's counterintuitive, 141 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.320 folks. The gold gold is not going up necessarily. It's it's the dollar 142 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:05.679 is going down. It's losing purchasing power. And you read off that list 143 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.120 of countries, most of those economies, I say they are not doing well. 144 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.240 I'm talking about Venezuela. They're selling off their gold holdings. We could 145 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:18.480 have so much debt has come to Argentina. Same thing with their currency imploating, 146 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:26.559 so those measures don't work and free floating, re floating fiat currencies. 147 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.480 There's fifty two times more currency on Earth today than when I was born forty 148 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.240 four years ago. We have a massive systemic worldwide debt problem as well. 149 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:41.720 These things are coming together and I think it's culminating. And what the IMF 150 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:46.399 is even saying at Davos, you know, this the most headwind of an 151 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.799 economy since World War Two, which it's interesting. We're in a fourth turning. 152 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:54.759 Isn't that interesting? Eighty plus years on, That's that's where we are. 153 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:01.720 And so we're positioning yourself. And I see this even and this is 154 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.159 a this is an open question. I asked this at Anarchapolco to the crowd, 155 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:07.600 because these are crypto people. I said, well, most of the 156 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:09.799 time, you know, I look at I'm pretty pessimistic about the ruling class 157 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.240 and what their views are. You had Larry Fink come out and say from 158 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:18.399 Blackrock and say that that bitcoin is now a store of value in digital gold, 159 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:20.679 which is a long way from where they were, you know, five 160 00:11:20.759 --> 00:11:24.320 years ago, basically saying that it's only used in illicit activities and money laundering 161 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:30.000 and terrorism. And Warren Buffett said it was rat poison. Jamie demon Jamie 162 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.240 Demons said he'd fire any trader that went now they all have ETFs. Yeah, 163 00:11:33.279 --> 00:11:37.279 but it's interesting, something's afoot there. You know. I had Stewart 164 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:41.399 anglered On, who wrote the book Rigged on the Golden Sober Markets and has 165 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:46.240 dug into this for years and years about how they rig the Golden sober markets. 166 00:11:46.639 --> 00:11:50.039 His theory on the bitcoin ETF was that it was going to be used 167 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:54.679 to suppress the price. But now we see, you know, gold or 168 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:00.759 bitcoin at fifty one thousand and some change today, up thirty percent in the 169 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:09.320 last month. So there's there's something too that unprecedented historical activity in the currency 170 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:15.799 market staved. Do you see a big finance moving away buying gold even again, 171 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:20.320 even actors like Larry Fink saying that that bitcoin is digital gold in a 172 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:26.480 store of value. So there's something there. It's an off ramp perhaps for 173 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:28.440 the elite. We're still looking at that. Well, you know, I 174 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:33.039 guess maybe bitcoin was too honest for them. They had to come up with 175 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.759 some kind of a devious derivative to attach on there before they could really double 176 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:39.399 down on this thing and make it work for them. Maybe that's what it 177 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.320 is. They're just waiting to roll out some kind of an ETF on top 178 00:12:43.360 --> 00:12:46.480 of it so they could manipulate it in that regard. You I don't I 179 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:52.240 don't trust these guys, but it is kind of interesting to see how that 180 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.600 is going back and forth. We've got are these any question? Yeah, 181 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.159 we got Do we have a question for Tony? Let's see, yes, 182 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.679 because Tony had said, if you want to do we're doing, ask me 183 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:09.639 anything questions here. If you want to ask him some questions, he'll take 184 00:13:09.679 --> 00:13:15.320 him on rumble we have. Sprumford says, even after endless pep talks, 185 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:20.840 my bookcase continues to whimper at the site of Tony's. So you got a 186 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.960 massive bookcase there. That's great. He likes your bookcase. Kareem. Thank 187 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.799 you for the tippy, said Tony. They just wanted you to clean up 188 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:35.399 after the Israeli special forces team that already took the Iraqi gold from the vaults. 189 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.159 There you go, good, Well, that's that's where the Israeli army 190 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:41.440 was. I never saw any of his railings when I was over in the 191 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:45.639 Middle East fighting for Apack. Yeah, that's right, let's see. I 192 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.519 don't think these other questions are for Tony. But anyway, has any questions 193 00:13:48.519 --> 00:13:50.679 for Tony, he certainly is willing to take him. You know, when 194 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:56.519 we look at what happened with Argentina Javier Malai, which I have my I 195 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:58.360 have some concerns about him, especially after he went to Davos, because that 196 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:03.919 always it's a red flag on somebody for me. You can you can criticize 197 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:07.919 Davos, you can criticize him to their I never went to Davos, but 198 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.720 I got blocked by Davos by the World Economic Forum on social media. I 199 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.039 never addressed them directly, but you know, so you can, you can 200 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:20.879 say things that get their ire up and that get noticed at least by them, 201 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.799 if not by other people, without going there. And I always worry 202 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.559 about people who physically go there. But he has focused, Like you said, 203 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:33.000 the central bank in Argentina was awful. He says, I don't like 204 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.440 any central banks, but some of them are worse than others, and so 205 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:41.240 he's shut down the pretty much their their thing and pegged it to the dollar. 206 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:45.840 Their inflation tony has gone from one hundred and fifty percent to two and 207 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.360 fifty percent. Did he pick the wrong central bank course to bet on? 208 00:14:50.600 --> 00:14:52.879 There was a There was an article I read on my show about a month 209 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.120 or so ago on lou rockwell dot com about Malay and he has ties to 210 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:03.000 the IMF, ties to black Rock, and Argentina was moving into the bricks 211 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:09.080 periphery, so did they There was this a coup to keep Argentina out of 212 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.840 the bricks because that seems that's the trend, that's where the energy is going. 213 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:15.879 And you know, like We've talked about many times, you know, 214 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:20.519 the weaponization of the US dollar, our actions. Not only that, it's 215 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:26.120 not only just the weaponization, but our economy is weak and we're not making 216 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:31.080 strategic decisions about production or wealth or any of those things. And I think 217 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.840 the world knows that, looks at us and says, well, you're not 218 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:41.039 doing well financially. You weaponize your currency. You know, there's forty different 219 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:45.320 sanctions on thirty six different countries we're out, and Argentina was one of those. 220 00:15:45.399 --> 00:15:48.759 And now you have this chainsall wielding guy. It sounds good. It 221 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.320 sounds good on paper. He's an anarcho capitalist. You know, he talks 222 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:58.279 about gold, He's flies the anarcho capitalist flag. It's gold and black. 223 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:02.399 He's got all of that going for him. But there's just something it's almost 224 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:06.879 too good to be true. So I'm skeptical and pegging yourself to that. 225 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.320 There's so many other alternatives, you know, the ways you could go the 226 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:15.559 dollar, and you know, you and I have spoken about this. It's 227 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:19.960 just again, it's about usage, and the math is not going to be 228 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:25.240 there for you in the long run, maybe the short run. There's not 229 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:27.840 many places to go right now, but again, two thousand and one, 230 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:33.039 seventy five percent of all the global transactions and went on in dollars and now 231 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:38.759 it's forty three percent and declining rapidly. So that's a trend you'd want to 232 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.879 pay attention to. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah. That gave me 233 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.440 red flags on the chains, all of the theatrics and stuff. And it's 234 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.240 like, okay, well, I don't know the country. I know that 235 00:16:48.240 --> 00:16:52.519 that works, but I saw these games, these theatrics, the over the 236 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:59.159 top criticism of other people and then coming around all the stuff, same type 237 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:00.720 of thing that Trump did, then coming around and making friends with him, 238 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:03.119 just like the World Economic Forum, as you point out, he's got these 239 00:17:03.640 --> 00:17:08.920 ties to the IMF. He was all over the Pope who was from Argentina 240 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.440 and a Marxist for sure, so he hated him. And it's like, 241 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:15.880 okay, well he doesn't like the pope and then he converts to Judaism and 242 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:21.319 anything. But then he goes to the Vatican and now they're all buddies there, 243 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:23.559 so it's like, wait a minute, there's something really phony going on 244 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:27.880 here. This is like Trump in twenty sixteen, you know, because you'd 245 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:32.440 be in jail and then you fast forward after his inaugurations. She's a wonderful 246 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:36.920 person. Yeah, you know, and that's just you know. I had 247 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:41.319 the privilege of being on air with G. Edward Griffin while I was producing 248 00:17:41.359 --> 00:17:45.279 for Don Jeffries about a year ago. And you get to talk to the 249 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.039 wise old stage. I mean G. Edward Griffin, the author of the 250 00:17:48.039 --> 00:17:51.640 Creature from Jacky Island, and it's such an activist in John Birch Society and 251 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:55.920 has been so far. He was so far ahead of his time, you 252 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.279 know. And he's in his nineties and he's so sharp. And I told 253 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.839 him, I said, had the Creature from Jekyl Island and that was one 254 00:18:02.839 --> 00:18:04.640 of the reasons I'm in the gold and silver business. And we got we 255 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:10.440 got onto a series of questions. I said, what's the one thing that 256 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:15.119 you would warn the younger activists about and and and those who are are you 257 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:18.599 know, fighting this this battle. What what would you warn us against? 258 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.400 And he thought about it and he said, controlled opposition is the number one 259 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.559 threat. It's the people that look like they're for you and they're not. 260 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:30.240 So you can guess where he is politically. Like that was that was his 261 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.200 theme. He's like, bet you know it was a warning from it from 262 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:37.680 the old stage, and I need to have it back on. But I 263 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.000 think wiser words were never spoken. God, I'd love to get him on 264 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.359 again. I talked to him once years ago. Uh, but he's right 265 00:18:44.400 --> 00:18:45.880 about that. And if you go back and you look at what what was 266 00:18:45.920 --> 00:18:51.480 it, somebody like Gerald Griffin who knows the Marxists and knows how they set 267 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:56.039 this stuff up, it was the Bolsheviks who set up the trust, that's 268 00:18:56.039 --> 00:19:00.240 what they called it. And they had they ran all the anti Bolshevik organizations 269 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:06.279 were run by the Bolsheviks so that they would know they funded it. They 270 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:08.559 you know, they did everything they could to promote this so they could draw 271 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.720 in all their opponents and know who they were. And we see this happening 272 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.200 over and over again. That's why you look at Trump, you look at 273 00:19:15.240 --> 00:19:18.920 Aavi or Malaia, it's like it's definitely with Trump. Javier Malia's still kind 274 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:23.119 of early days, but a lot of some signals that that's really I think 275 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:26.440 what is happening there. But getting back to the capital controls thing, I 276 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.559 thought it was interesting because he said, you know, the first thing is 277 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:32.440 you're going they're going to say that they're not going to do capital control, 278 00:19:32.519 --> 00:19:34.559 so when they actively deny, you know they're about to impose it. And 279 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.920 so he says, so what do you do about this? And so he 280 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:42.119 has a couple of things. So he says, have have a foreign bank 281 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.519 account, have real estate in a foreign country. And I looked at these 282 00:19:45.519 --> 00:19:48.559 first two things, I thought, that's exactly what Pfiser was doing. You 283 00:19:48.599 --> 00:19:52.839 know, when they when they when they went to Brazil and to Argentina and 284 00:19:52.880 --> 00:19:59.200 a third Latin American country which was not named by stat News, a pharmaceutical 285 00:19:59.200 --> 00:20:03.799 publication, they basically said, you're going to hold us harmless, not just 286 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.359 for the vaccine itself, but also for negligence and manufacturing and shipping and all 287 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:11.640 these other types of things, which was not anything that anybody else is doing. 288 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:18.519 But we want to have an insurance policy essentially on foreign assets assets, 289 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.440 bank account assets, land and things like that that Argentina and Brazil and these 290 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.240 other countries have in other countries, so that we can get to that stuff. 291 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:30.119 And so, yeah, that is absolutely true. So there's anything that 292 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.359 we can really do about that. Most people, but he mentions then bitcoin, 293 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:38.200 and then he mentions physical gold bullion coins These are really the fallbacks that 294 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:45.240 we've got are to prepare ourselves against these capital controls are to have physical gold 295 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:51.599 and to have bitcoin and things like that. That's really the only thing that 296 00:20:51.599 --> 00:20:56.720 we've got in terms of a financial aspect to make preparations for something like capital 297 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.079 controls, isn't it. Yeah? Not ETFs, right on, Not ETFs. 298 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.160 They're actual heightting, not paper, not g l D, not SLV, 299 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:08.720 and not whatever ETF is claiming that they're buying bitcoin. You need to 300 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:14.160 have your wallet, your keys. It's really not hard to learn. And 301 00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:18.079 you talk about cryptocurrency. Bitcoin is the only crypto I'm buying right now, 302 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.079 and that's because of its decentralization. It's not run by a company, it's 303 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.119 not run by a country, and it has lasted. You know that, 304 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:30.319 it's still it's still growing, the network's growing, the adoption is growing. 305 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.599 So I'm buying. I'm bullish on bitcoin. I'm not even really in the 306 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:38.000 bitcoin business anymore. I was some of the first bitcoin ATMs in this country 307 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:42.319 and I learned a lot from it. But really my mission right now is 308 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:48.839 still precious metals, and that's gold and silver, no counterparty risk. That's 309 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:52.440 the main physical gold and silver, no counterparty risk. And one of the 310 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.400 things I was talking with it's very hard to move physical precious metals across boundaries. 311 00:21:57.400 --> 00:22:02.599 That's why you see people eating in the jewelry. That's just always a 312 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:06.039 good idea, I think, ways as you can travel with it. But 313 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:10.079 when you're talking about a significant amount, you're looking at storage. And I 314 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:15.000 will be announcing something soon on being able to store for people. I'm looking 315 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:19.680 at a Texas location, possibly within this year, to do some legitimate secured 316 00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:22.839 storage for people that especially if they're going to be living outside the country. 317 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:26.640 Okay, well that's good, yeah, if they're outside the country. One 318 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.519 of the things he cautions about is be careful about bank safe deposit boxes because 319 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.039 it's gonna be one of the first places of all And we saw that happen 320 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:37.519 in California where they went into that one area and the FBI stole all this 321 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.200 stuff from everybody that I mean, you know, there's one or two people 322 00:22:40.240 --> 00:22:44.440 that might have been involved in criminal activity, but they got it from everybody 323 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.319 by going into the safety deposit boxes. It's just that's a difficult thing. 324 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.839 I got a couple of questions here else. Start out with the funny one. 325 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.799 Here, Billy the Kid Part two says, I just bought gold for 326 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.359 the first time, Tony, I spent three thousand dollars and got me three 327 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:07.720 pairs of Trump sneakers. Is there real gold in Trump's sneakers? I don't 328 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:15.079 think there's either there's anything real about those, But I love that question. 329 00:23:15.960 --> 00:23:21.559 Here is a more serious question. I like that joke for Tony. Sprmford 330 00:23:21.599 --> 00:23:23.759 says, Tony, what are your thoughts on silver versus gold? Is silver 331 00:23:23.920 --> 00:23:33.400 worth holding stack silver silver? Long term? It's the price. The word 332 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:38.000 I would use is ridiculous because if you look at the price history nineteen eighty 333 00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:41.839 fifty two dollars and fifty cents an ounce. Now, what's the purchasing power 334 00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:45.279 of fifty two dollars and fifty cents in nineteen eighty versus today? It's it's 335 00:23:45.319 --> 00:23:52.119 probably like two hundred fifty dollars. It's it's the disparity there is insane. 336 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.880 I'm about to release an interview I had with Peter Kroud, who wrote the 337 00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.920 Great Silver Bull Book, and that we really dove into. Only is the 338 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.440 price of silver manipulated? I mean, JP Morgan's been convicted of this. 339 00:24:04.480 --> 00:24:11.079 It's counterintuitive because most people don't pay attention because it's a price manipulation to suppress 340 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:15.079 it. Now why is that? And who is the largest holder of silver 341 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.960 in the world. Oh, it's JP Morgan. So they're buying physical silver. 342 00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:25.119 And that's the thing is you're talking about hundreds of millions of ounces in 343 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.519 deficits now for the demand versus the production. So the recycling and I've discussed 344 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:37.559 this on my interview with Peter. Most of the silver it's in landfills because 345 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.599 it wasn't worth getting out of the electronic components that gets thrown away. Only 346 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:45.400 about twenty percent of the silver that hits the market is from silver mines. 347 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.759 The rest of it's just found in either recycling from jewelry and other places, 348 00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:53.559 or found in gold mining copper mining, and they just well that's extra, 349 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:57.440 so they set it aside. There is not a lot of silver mining going 350 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:03.599 on, so while the price is suppressed, it's it's too cheap to even 351 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:07.119 go get it, So there's going to be a reckoning. And I've i 352 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:12.240 have seen intel that a lot of the big banks have stopped their shorts on 353 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:15.640 silver, which is they normally short it, and a lot of them are 354 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.720 pulling those shorts, and so I think I think there's going to be in 355 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.359 the next year or so. Again, non investment advice has nothing to do 356 00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:26.680 with investments. Just watch this because I think it's going to become less and 357 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:33.200 less available, and there's not. There's not. Even after the markets corrected 358 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.759 some and it's stabilized a bit, I still don't even see the amount of 359 00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:41.079 availability that I saw in twenty nineteen. It's we're not even close to that. 360 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.039 So there's something if a whale right now that there was it was two 361 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.759 or three whales that wanted to come in and buy up the silver. They 362 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:53.559 couldn't place the orders. We know that in the in the physical precious metals 363 00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:57.599 business, you can't lock those trades. So I would I would say get 364 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:03.839 physical silver and stack it for the long term because it's way out of even 365 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.599 the gold. The golden silver ratio historically is something that you need to pay 366 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:12.279 attention to as well, because it's always been either ten to one or at 367 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:17.480 the highest, twenty to one. We're at eighty seven to one. That's 368 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.039 during the height of the scandemic, one hundred and twenty five to one at 369 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:26.400 one time in the first quarter of twenty twenty. So that disparity something is 370 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.440 a reckoning coming in the price of silver. I don't know what win, 371 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.119 but it will happen. Mass eventually kicks in. And when you say, 372 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.119 it's kind intuitive that they're getting this to depress the price. But we've seen 373 00:26:37.160 --> 00:26:41.799 that type of thing happen before. I remember when the real estate market started 374 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:45.400 collapsing, and it's like, so, what's their game on this, Because 375 00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.480 all of a sudden, I remember we had a neighbor who refinanced their house 376 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:53.640 and they got a really really low interest rate, their payments went down, 377 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:56.599 they got cash out of it and all the rest of the stuff, and 378 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:57.400 we looked at it's like, well, maybe we should do that. All 379 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.559 of a sudden, within a week, the interest rates just jumped and they 380 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.119 said, well, it's something that happened in California now spreading all over the 381 00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:06.200 country. And it's like, well, I don't know, but you know, 382 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:07.240 why would they do this. Well, we see why they did it. 383 00:27:07.279 --> 00:27:11.319 They depressed the price of housing and they bought into it. And they 384 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:14.480 do this they create just like the you know, the warnings about the creation 385 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.720 of the Federal Reserve, so they'll create bull and bear markets, and they 386 00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:21.599 will profit when it goes up and profit when it goes down. And so 387 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.839 when they start depressing stuff like this excessively, you know that they're playing a 388 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:30.839 longer game and they're going to do something too. On the other on the 389 00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:36.119 other side of it, they are going to artificially increase it probably as well. 390 00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:40.400 We got another couple of questions here, I think for you, Tony, 391 00:27:40.480 --> 00:27:45.839 what states can your paper goldbacks be used in? Well, there's there's 392 00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:51.319 even in states where they're not used officially. In those states, you could 393 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:56.720 there's locations you can find that on the goldback websites. But there's Idaho, 394 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:00.359 there's Wyoming, New Hampshire, Utah, just just to name a few, 395 00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:04.400 and there's others and we're getting more in the more access to those in the 396 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:08.000 coming months. Yeah, you can look and you can actually find locations like 397 00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.799 me, I accept gold backs. You can use gold backs wise Wolfs or 398 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:17.519 eat both in my Texas location and Branson. Yeah, and there's individuals so 399 00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.359 yeah, you can go on their website and there's a list of companies and 400 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.319 locations. So it's really all over the country, not just those states. 401 00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:26.440 That's why somebody asked me that question the other day, and I said, 402 00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:30.319 well, you know, when I was talking to Aaron Day, he wrote 403 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.599 a book about CBDC and he's talking about that and he's he's very heavily into 404 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.359 bitcoin, gold and silver. But he said, I give people these these 405 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.359 gold paper notes and I'll give them a little sheet, you know, leave 406 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.680 it as a tip. When I'm at a restaurant, I'll give them a 407 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:47.599 sheet and tell them what this is. And that's the key thing. You 408 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:52.119 know, whatever it is, it's a medium of exchange. And you know, 409 00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:53.440 for the most part of the people, if they buy into it, 410 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:57.240 you're good. It doesn't have to be something that is officially recognized at the 411 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:00.759 state level. It just has to be recognized by the person that you want 412 00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.279 to buy something from. And if they understand what this is then and you 413 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:07.480 may need to educate them on that, but if they understand what it is, 414 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.200 you're fine with that. And so that's the key thing about all of 415 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.440 this stuff. And you know, we have they're going to try to pull 416 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:22.880 on the other side. You're already starting to see some trends like we see 417 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.119 in the UK and other countries would say we're not going to accept cash we're 418 00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.519 not going to accept paper money from the Federal Reserve. Even though it says 419 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.559 on it this is legal tender for all debts public and private and that type 420 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:34.039 of thing. They can just say no, I don't want to take it. 421 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:40.160 Well, legally they have to take that, I believe, but they 422 00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:41.799 don't legally have to take anything else from you. I mean, you could 423 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.599 have a goal bar there that you want to give them for, you know, 424 00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:48.119 a stick of gum, and they don't have to take that, you 425 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.680 know, like they would have to take the paper money. But if they 426 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.160 know what the value of it is, they would certainly accept something that is 427 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.799 way out of a lot more valuable than what it is that you're trying to 428 00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.279 change from. So it's just that there has to be a you know, 429 00:30:03.960 --> 00:30:07.359 a give and take there in terms of making it legal tender. You know, 430 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:12.960 even though gold and silver is recognized in the Constitution and referenced, you 431 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.960 know, still have people that might say, well, I don't want to 432 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:17.799 take the gold, or I don't want to take the silver or whatever. 433 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.960 So it's just one of those things. But I think that it's what I 434 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.960 like about it is the fact that it is it breaks down the gold in 435 00:30:27.079 --> 00:30:30.960 terms of a small enough unit that you can actually do something with it, 436 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:37.640 and if things hit then it'll really get popular. I think I have watched 437 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.440 them grow in popularity. It's surprised me over the last five years. When 438 00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:47.119 I started my business six years ago, there I almost had no business done 439 00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.440 in goalbacks and nobody asked for them. I get requests all the time, 440 00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:55.119 and I finally just said, every membership level in wolf Pack, even the 441 00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:59.720 wolf cub every month gets goldbacks. Everybody gets gold backs because people like them 442 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:03.680 and think you're right. They're divisible, they're recognizable, they're twenty four carrot 443 00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.400 gold. You can't go wrong with them. I just you know, if 444 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.000 you've got Even if you can't spin them right now, I promise you eventually 445 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.720 you will be able to. There's more and more adoption every single day. 446 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.920 I mean people, and we've talked about this because of inflation. People are 447 00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.480 starting to pay attention to the currency again, and it's not getting better. 448 00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.960 It's not going to get better. The price of groceries is through the roof. 449 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:32.319 They even had a couple of weeks ago on MSNBC or something like that 450 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.799 and they said, well, the price of TVs is stabilizing. The price 451 00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:40.240 of electronics is going down somewhat, and used cars is going down, but 452 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:41.799 food keeps going up, and we can't figure out why. Well, the 453 00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:47.519 economy's bad and people are buying the TVs or the electronics as much. There 454 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.720 isn't as much demand. It's economics one oh one. But people still need 455 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.279 to eat. So that's where all the inflation is at right now. So 456 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:56.759 this is something that's it's not going to get better. So goldbacks, fractional 457 00:31:56.839 --> 00:32:01.200 silver, fractional gold, these are all really great things to have in the 458 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:07.000 parallel economy that it's forming itself. I mean, really it's becoming, it's 459 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.200 organic, it's building itself at this point. That's right, that's right. 460 00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:13.960 Because of the dolls. They got to comment along those lines from the dude 461 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:15.960 seven to seven eight one. He said, when the shelves of the store 462 00:32:16.039 --> 00:32:20.599 are empty, a can of tuna then becomes worth far more than any lump 463 00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:22.839 of gold or paper with some dead guy's picture on. And that's really, 464 00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.400 you know, when we look at it, it is it's relative to whatever 465 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.160 the current situation is. If you get to those kind of a dire straits 466 00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.720 where you know, people are starving. Then it's going to come back down 467 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.319 to the can of food. It's going to come down to the to the 468 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:42.480 lead that you've accumulated in terms of ammunition and things like that. That's what 469 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.400 it's going to evolve to. But you know, we're looking at a situation 470 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:51.039 where if we go in something that that I've been through, you've been through 471 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:54.720 as well. What we saw in the nineteen seventies rat the disruption that comes 472 00:32:54.720 --> 00:33:01.440 from inflation is just so incredibly you know, difficult and to live through. 473 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.079 And I've seen that happen. I've seen what it does to everything when inflation 474 00:33:06.119 --> 00:33:09.000 picks up like that. So that's one aspect of it. The second aspect 475 00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:12.559 of it, of course, is the de dollarization. We've never gone through 476 00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.440 anything like that in our lifetime. We've always had the dollar be the king 477 00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.759 of all currencies, so we've never seen what that's going to look like. 478 00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.640 But then the third thing is the CBDC, and the CBDC types of controls 479 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:30.079 could be put there without a completely grid down, you know, apocalyptic scenario 480 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.759 where we're all fighting over food. The CBDC scenario could be imposed before that 481 00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.599 happens, And to me, that's really what, you know, setting some 482 00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:43.559 money aside in gold and silver, and the people want to do it bitcoin. 483 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.279 That's that's what that's really about, is a hedge against the CBDC types 484 00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.279 of surveillance in control where they still have the ability to get food, but 485 00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:52.799 they're just going to keep you out of the system, and you've got to 486 00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:59.640 have some kind of parallel underground economy, gray market or even black market. 487 00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:00.839 That's where these things are going to come in to play. I think, 488 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:06.559 well, I agree with the assessment on the can of tuna. Robert Kisoki 489 00:34:06.599 --> 00:34:08.800 tweeted that out a year ago, saying, you know that again, you 490 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.599 can't eat gold and silver. Even he said that you can't eat gold and 491 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.239 silver, and I can't eat tuna. I can't. That's gonna have to 492 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:20.679 be something else besides tuna. For me. What gold and silver and bitcoin 493 00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:25.000 are or a bet that civilization will continue. Yeah, and without civilization, 494 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:32.039 you know, monetary exchange units aren't relevant, food is relevant, water's irrelevant. 495 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.400 The way to protect yourself is more relevant. So it really just depends 496 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.960 on the degree of what kind of dystopia we're walking into. So, you 497 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:45.679 know, would that surprise me if there was no economy. Probably not for 498 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.000 everything I know about history, but I think that you know, you're right 499 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:55.320 this any sort of pause in what we deem as normal we have normalcy bias. 500 00:34:55.719 --> 00:35:00.159 Any sort of pause or disruption in that will be where they insert at 501 00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.719 the central bank digital currency. That that threat has not gone away. It 502 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.719 still trickles down into our news feeds. They're still working on it, you 503 00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:14.440 know, whether it's the IMF with their un coin or the Bank of International 504 00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:20.960 Settlements the Unified System. They want to create the top down CBDC control system 505 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.519 that's being implemented. So it's something they just need a crisis, and it'll 506 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:29.679 be by the way, we've got your wallet. We've already got you fifty 507 00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:32.159 you know, just do a Hail Satan and scan your biometrics and we'll give 508 00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:36.360 you your Central Bank digital you can go buy groceries again, and you're an 509 00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:39.039 approved citizen and you're essential. You know, all this language will be used 510 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.239 again. So that hasn't gone away. So the fight for us to create 511 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:49.039 parallel systems or like pathne Austin Fitz has been talking about with sovereign state banks, 512 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.119 and you know, we have so much on the horizon that's good news. 513 00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:57.880 But you don't for a second think that they have stopped their plans to 514 00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.559 create that that top down to palitarian control grid with the CBD say. Yeah, 515 00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:05.920 as you point out, they've got all these different ones unicoin World Coin, 516 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:07.880 I mean, and all these different central banks have got all their different 517 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.320 coins. And as you see them saying with the World Economic Form, what 518 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.039 we got to and at the EU, we got to have these things interoperable 519 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.159 with each other. That's the key. They're all designing all their own unique 520 00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.800 things, and they'll be out there just like you can get a one ounce 521 00:36:22.840 --> 00:36:27.679 gold coin and it'll have you know, maybe you get a Vienna's coin, 522 00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.800 it's got you know, an orchestra with the stuff on there. You've got 523 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:34.559 American gold Eagle or a Kruger Ran or whatever. They've all got their little 524 00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:36.719 stamp on it. But it's all essentially the same thing. So they're going 525 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.840 to have there, just like they got different gold coins that they meant, 526 00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:44.440 they're going to have these different cbdc's, but they're all going to be interoperable 527 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:47.239 with each other. And so they're just they're creating this infrastructure. It's pretty 528 00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.360 much already in place. It just got to pull the trigger and unify it 529 00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:53.880 all. That's what we've got to be concerned about. Another couple of questions 530 00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.760 here. Actually this is a comment and a tip. Thank you, Guard, 531 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.239 appreciate that he So it's not that the old weather here in uh in 532 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:06.079 New in the New Hampshire studio inspires my thought. But I wonder if Tony 533 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.760 got info in Mexico regarding freedom lovers who are trying to leave the US and 534 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.880 where they're headed. If so, what about lots of lots of expats And 535 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.320 they had a whole system there at Anarcapoco and through the dollar of Vigilante. 536 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:22.920 You go check out their website. They've got people that can help you, 537 00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:28.280 you know, relocated. You're looking at other countries that are well possibly friendly 538 00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.599 to you know, former US citizens or dual citizens, and you know, 539 00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:36.519 whether it's Mexico or Panama or Nicaragua. I've met a lot of people there 540 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:42.159 that had moved out and they're spending most of their time in in in South 541 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:46.000 America and other places. So you know, do that research for yourself. 542 00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:50.639 It's funny. Almost everywhere I go I meet people that know Guard too, 543 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:53.480 And I was that's what I was in Arcapoco and I was like, you 544 00:37:53.519 --> 00:38:00.119 know, one of a mutual friend now and I said, I'm talking to 545 00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:00.840 Carla. He goes, oh, tell Carla. I said, hi, 546 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.960 you know, from New Hampshire. And so it's interesting you just meet people 547 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:10.880 and people know Guard. You know, it's a his reputation is magnificent internationally. 548 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.559 Guard. I meet people, you know Guard Goldsmith. Absolutely, he's 549 00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:16.760 one of the greatest guys. So smart, yes, yeah, well diserved, 550 00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.599 he definitely deserves that recognition, and they're wise to listen to him. 551 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:23.559 Yeah, you know, I had that experience. Karen and I went and 552 00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:28.880 I think it was nineteen ninety eight, my mom and died. She'd had 553 00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.360 a stroke. We were taking care of her, and after she died, 554 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:32.239 we thought, well, you know, we need to think about And I'd 555 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:38.280 been thinking about leaving the country ever since there was the Ruby Ridge in Waco. 556 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.440 I thought, yeah, you know, I think we've We've across the 557 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:45.679 rubicon here for sure. So we went to New Zealand to take a look 558 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:49.199 at living there. Actually set up a bank account temporarily there for a while 559 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.519 to close that now. But the I looked at it seriously and I just 560 00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:55.800 you know, of course, I met with some people that were there that 561 00:38:55.840 --> 00:39:01.639 were also livery lovers, and and so we had this discussion about who had 562 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:07.119 it the worst. I think they convinced me that America wasn't as far along 563 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.519 as New Zealand was. But just even then, you know, when I 564 00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:16.719 was thirty something, it was, it was still I was too attached to 565 00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:20.719 America really to leave it. So I thought, well, might as well 566 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:23.039 just fight it out here. So that's where I was why I'm not an 567 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:29.800 expat. Another question for Tony here from Sprungford on Rumbley says, thanks Tony 568 00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:35.039 for the silver advice. Any preference for large bars versus American Eagles other than 569 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:40.360 it's obviously a better deal to buy bars. My advice to my customers is 570 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:46.480 always get the amount of ounces closer to how much the dollar units you have. 571 00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.400 American Eagles, the premiums on them, I don't agree with those premiums. 572 00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.199 Now you're still getting silver cheap. I mean, it's probably thirty one 573 00:39:55.239 --> 00:40:00.559 dollars an ounce for an American Eagle today, and I haven't checked. That's 574 00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.239 probably retail around thirty thirty one, while you could stack you know, one 575 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:10.119 hundred dollars silver bars for around twenty five twenty five and a half, So 576 00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:13.679 you really need to take a look at how many ounces you get to because 577 00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:19.239 that's what's going to be most important now in your trading ability. Fractional pre 578 00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.760 nineteen sixty five silver is a really good thing to have if you join wolf 579 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:24.199 Pack. We do a lot of the tenth ounce pieces. I was actually 580 00:40:24.239 --> 00:40:30.280 putting tenth ounce sovereign silver Britannias that'll be coming up in the next series of 581 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:34.159 wolf Pack packages. I just bought about five thousand of those, so we're 582 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.440 going to be putting those in the orders soon. So we do a lot 583 00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.000 of fractional there. So if you've got tradable silver, that's the first thing 584 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.840 you're going to want is tradable silver. American eagles are fine if you can 585 00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:46.800 get a good deal. But after that, when you've when you've reached a 586 00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.039 point where I've got all my tradable silver that I'm probably going to need for 587 00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:53.159 an emergency or for a while to spend, you know, if there's a 588 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:57.719 problem with the dollar or a currency run on the dollar, a currency collapse. 589 00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:00.559 After that, stack the ounce and one of the best ways to do 590 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:07.039 that is just get a recognizable. Bullyon bar. Kilo and up is probably 591 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.239 the best deal. Kilogram bars are a good deal all the way up to 592 00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:13.440 one hundred downs bars always a good deal. Yeah, I've got the money 593 00:41:13.440 --> 00:41:16.199 for a hundred dowuns bar. That's a good You're doing pretty good there. 594 00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:21.639 That's good to know. It's been great to have you on. I don't 595 00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:23.639 have any more questions here for you from the listeners, but and I know 596 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.960 you've got to get going because I usually do about a half hour work about 597 00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.400 one and a half times that. So thank you so much for coming on, 598 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:35.480 Tony. Always interesting to talk to you. And before we go anything 599 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.159 else, you want to tell people about what is happening at wolf Pack and 600 00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:44.320 with Wisewolf. Well, first of all, always a pleasure to talk to 601 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:47.039 you, David, and it's an honor to sponsor this program. And I 602 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:51.039 know how I heard the first part of the show and you talked about radio, 603 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.960 and you and I will talk soon. We've got Freeworld dot FM. 604 00:41:54.000 --> 00:41:58.440 We're still working on launching and I want to include you on that. And 605 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.519 I know that off it's tough to run broadcast. I run your broadcast a 606 00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.920 short short bursts and it's exhausting. I love doing it, but I know 607 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.039 how much it takes out of you and how much you're giving to the audience. 608 00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:17.320 So we'll definitely discuss that wolf Pack is growing. We're doing our best 609 00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:22.719 to find interesting products and find good deals. I looked at the latest invoices. 610 00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.639 You know, if you look at your savings, I want people to 611 00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:30.880 pay it when you get the new invoices in check out the savings because I'm 612 00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:34.559 meticulously going through product when I buy it and to see what I can what 613 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.239 I can do to save people money, especially with shipping and credit card fees 614 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.800 and all that, and it's generally significant. I have bought in the last 615 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:49.360 couple of weeks close to five thousand ounces of Canadian silver maple leaves that are 616 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:53.000 brilliant uncirculated with still the boxes isn't opened yet, So you're getting a lot 617 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:58.159 of great stuff in wolf Pack and saving money that helps support David. You 618 00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.119 can go to Davidnight dot goal check out the tabasas joined wolf Pack and the 619 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.719 deals that are coming. We work on the website all that good stuff, 620 00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.719 and my two physical locations are there to serve people. You can do one 621 00:43:07.760 --> 00:43:13.880 time purchases four oh one k rollovers, I RaSE all that stuff and we're 622 00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:20.039 just working on better faster shipments and better customer services always. And thank you 623 00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.280 again for having me on. Well, thank you and thank you for supporting 624 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.599 us. And it really is a great idea what you've got in terms of 625 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:30.239 group buying and being able to do it in small quantities and on a regular 626 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.039 basis. 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