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The following presentation is Del Marvis Studios
Production. Welcome back truth Secrets from around

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the world. It's time for another
edition of the flatter of Files podcast.

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And I hope this finds you well. I'm your host, George Hobbs.

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I hope everybody's having a great week. We have a guest standing by Noah.

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He'll be joining us in just a
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gmail dot com. Without any further
ado, let's bring on our special guest

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for today, and his name is
Noah. How are you doing today?

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Pretty good, George, how are
you? It's great to have you on

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and we had a nice conversation before
we hit the record button. And why

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don't you go ahead and introduce yourself
to the audience. Yeah, I'm Noah

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from Tallahassee, Florida. Over here, I'm a twenty seven year old fiber

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optic technician. I install fiber internet
for people at their houses pretty much.

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Well, Dan, where do I
even go from here? Well, let's

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we'll jump right into it. First
off, Have you have any theory since

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you're you know, you're you're in
the fiber optics and things like that,

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any thoughts on five G. Well, I've heard a lot about five G.

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My dad was super into, you
know, covering it up and trying

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to not you know, have the
kids affected by too much with our phones

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and everything. But I mean,
I've heard a lot of things involved in

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the vaccine and how that's supposed to
activate something in your body with d m

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RNA. I'm not sure about all
that. I'm not too I'm not too

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you know, knowledgeable about that.
But I don't do anything with the actual

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main hardlines of the fiber optics,
so I'm pretty much just a residential installer.

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I'm not really too into the tech
part of it. Tracking, tracking,

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good stuff. Hey, why don't
you go ahead and share a little

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bit about your journey to the truth. When did you start seeing the world

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a little differently then? We'll use
the air quotes as the as the normy

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sees it. Right. So,
as far back as I can remember,

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I I believe I was in school
and I was learning about the moon landing

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and my dad. I was telling
my dad about it because he always used

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to ask us, you know what
you learned today? And I was telling

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about the moonland have we learned about
it? And my dad kind of he

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gave me a little bit of a
look where it's like, I don't know,

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you know, what do you think? And basically he just kind of

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told me that experienced stuck with me
for my whole life pretty much. And

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then growing up, as I got
older, I started looking into things,

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and as soon as I got to
a freshman year of college, I heard

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about the Donald Trump his son,
that book way back in nineteen eighteen whatever.

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How It's like a lot of connections
about time travel. And from there

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I kind of just branched off and
started learning more about the moon landing and

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nine to eleven and basically every conspiracy
under the sun. And then a few

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years later, must have been like
three four years later, my aunt send

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me a video. It's called it's
whole video series. It's called what happened

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on Earth, and I started reading
and watching those videos, and they in

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that video, they start off with
you know, NASA being a bunch of

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lies and a whole bunch of stuff
concerning NASA just not being true, and

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then they go into flat Earth,
and they also go into the whole Hollywood

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Beemium Grove and all that other terrible
stuff, Pizzagate, they go into all

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that. So that was really the
video set that woke me up to a

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lot of the conspiracies, including flat
Earth. Ever since then, I wasn't

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terribly convinced, but it just stuck
in my head. I used to do

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construction before the fiber tech, and
I'll be just sitting there, you know,

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cutting wood work and have my you
know, headset on with your podcast

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on, and I just kept hearing
things. I was like, man,

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that's just making any sense. So
I just kept thinking about it for months

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and months and months, and I
eventually came to the conclusion I believe there

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is flat because there's just too many
questions and too many you know, complications

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that just doesn't make any sense for
it. So that's pretty much where I'm

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at now. I believe in pretty
much all of the conspiracies. I believe

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as long as there's proof for it, and it's just a little bit too

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far fetched, I believe it honestly. Well, that's pretty much where I'm

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at right now. As far as
my story. It's interesting you mentioned the

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Baron Trump Novels, which was written
by Ingersoll Lockwood, because my second ever

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guest, four or five years ago, before it was even called the fact

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Unner, this guy wrote a book
about how like he used that book and

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it not quite like Jamatria, but
he was able to code. And this

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was in well a year before the
elections, and he said that Biden was

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going to win one hundred percent because
of the code, but there would be

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some type of you know, debacle, and you know, and sure enough,

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I go back and listen to it
now, I'm like, man,

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that's kind of weird. How he
took this book that was written in eighteen

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eighty nine and made a code out
of it and predicted the outcome of the

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election. And sure enough, you
know, Biden won and they said he

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got eighty one million votes. And
obviously we saw all the voting booths,

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you know, all the videos,
and just we know it was a just

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a farce. The entire thing,
and it was very interesting how the correlation

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between Baron Trump and what happened.
And then you have Warner von Braun's book

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from the nineteen fifties that talks about
going to Mars and his main subject in

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the book was named Elon, right
that the protagonist was named Elon. So

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it's interesting how these these literature,
you know, from one hundred and forty

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and you know, seventy years go
still you know, resonate with what's going

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on today, right, and they
have there's even more. I mean,

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the big thing for me, like
my big question when I kept asking myself

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way back then when I first saw
the TikTok about you know, the novel,

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Oh you know, how many?
How many coincidences does it take for

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you to believe that it's actually true? You know, normally, you you

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know, see somebody at the mall, one of your friends, Oh,

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what's up? You know about what
a coincidence we're both here at the same

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time. Cool, But then you
see them at the you know, you

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know, the Olive Garden, you
go over dinner the same day and it's

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like, oh, okay, but
like all right, are you following me?

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Or you know, there's something else
going on there. It's not just

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just just a string of fourteen coincidences
that you know, Yeah, I agree.

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I think when you look at something, if there are one or two

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coincidences, then it very well could
be a coincidence. But nine to eleven

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was something for me when there was
literally over one hundred things that didn't make

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sense or we're some type of coincidence. And that's when I really started to

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understand. And then backward track to
to Waco, to Oklahoma City, to

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the lies that started the Gulf War. And as I continued to go backwards

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in history, you start to see
that everything is a lie to get to

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a certain means, means to an
end if you will. And then you

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know the one that people won't talk
about, like all the lies of World

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War two, it's just and now
I'm at the point where you look at

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the very first president with Washington being
a freemason. So again it is our

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entire history a complete lie. That
is like where I'm at right now,

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right, I mean, yeah,
I think just about I mean, like

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you've been saying, just about everywhere
you turn is just another crowc BS.

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Even today, I was on the
way home when I was saying, I

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just got back from the gym,
and I was thinking, how do calories

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work? Right? Like, there's
no way that I started looking into it,

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and it was you know, I
think measured calories by taking a piece

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of food and putting it in a
in a little jar and sealing it and

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then surrounding that jar with water,
and they pump the jar full of oxygen

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and then ignite the oxygen with a
you know, electrical wires or a spark,

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and then and then measure how hot
the water gets by how long it

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takes for the food to burn off. It just don't makes much sense to

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me. I mean, I believe
that the nutritional and health industry is just

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a bunch of lies as well as
to get us, you know, buying

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a whole bunch of protein and supplements
and whatever else. When I when I

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believe the true factor of weight loss
is a blood sugar that's like the main

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If you can control that, you
will lose weight. There's no way you

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can't. And that's why I did. I started out as like one hundred

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and eighty pounds and I'm down to
sorry, two hundred and eighty pounds,

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and I'm down to like two hundred. Yeah, and that's that's how I

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did it. Calories Counting calories never
worked for me. That never ever worked

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for me. I swore my body
was broken. And then I and then

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I discovered fiber and how much that
helps regulate your blood sugar and the time

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you're eating and fasting. And now
I do that, and I've consistently stayed

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at the weight that I want to
be and ever since then, I don't

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really believe the calories are you know, quote unquote real, So you're pretty

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much off. What are the killers? So does process sugar those type of

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things? Yeah? Everything, Yeah, I mean that'll throw you off.

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Even like a mc donald cheeseburger has
so much sugar in it, and then

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they and then they cover it up
with so much salt and it's like bad

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quality salt too. So next thing, you know, you're just you get

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the high and then the crash,
the blood sugar spike and crash, and

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that's when it throws off your instant
levels. And that's what causes your body

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to hold on to excess fat because
you know, things is getting all this

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food and then it stops getting food, and then it just gets confused.

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Really good stuff. Well, congratulations
on the weight loss. I know I

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could lose a few pounds. I
used to run all the time, and

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then I had a devastating leg injury
a couple of years ago, and I'm

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just done. I've already had several
knee surgeries. I just I just can't

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do it anymore. But so I
need to really be more cognizant of what

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I'm putting, what I'm eating,
and what I'm drinking because I don't have

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You know, I used to run
five, six seven miles a day.

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I can't do that anymore. So
I can't do that here. That is

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a lot for me. Yeah,
I've been running since I was twelve.

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With my body the Army, all
the body armor up and down and all

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that stuff. It just broke it
down. So you know, yeah,

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I bet. My brother's in the
military as well, and he's he's a

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he just got promoted to take command
of an entire afraid it's some battalion or

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a unit or something like that,
whole bunch of people. He's taking control

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of them all, and he's he's
also starting to complain. He's about thirty

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years old. He's starting to complain
about his body's starting to take damage.

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Yeah, I mean one of the
most grueling things we used to do with

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the twelve mile road marches, you
know, with forty five pound pack on

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your back and a helmet and carrying
your weapon and twelve miles walking in combat

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boots, carrying all that stuff.
It just destroys your body. And I

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think we only did it twice a
year, but man, it took a

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day or two just to complete rest, you know, to recover from that

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stuff. But again, that's awesome
what you're doing. Keeping your health,

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that's the most important thing. And
what a battle. Right. We know

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that these companies who basically fill the
supermarkets are looking for the cheapest possible product,

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and nine times out of ten,
those ingredients are more detrimental than helpful,

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even the seedless fruits that they're you
know, putting in the grocery stores.

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Now we've done our best. You
know, we do use some items

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for long term storage in case of
emergencies, but we try to eat,

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you know, as little processed food
as we possibly can, and we get

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our meats from the local butchers so
we know where they're coming from. Is

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that something you're cognizant of as well? Yeah, where I'm at, it's

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pretty it's pretty hard to get the
quality quality meat. So I do.

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I do a lot of ground beef
because that's just the easiest for me.

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Yeah, but yeah, I definitely
try and be as far extended as I

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can as far as nutrition goes,
because, like you said in the past,

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it's health is the most important thing. If you don't have that,

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you're just a rundown mess with nothing
else to do. So that video series,

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I'm sorry, I didn't hear you. I interrupted you. I thought

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you were done. Oh no,
I'm done. You're good. So that

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video series you said that woke you
up? Was that the one that the

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female narrated and it was like a
ten or thirteen part series. I don't

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remember it to google it really quick. I don't remember it being a I

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thought it was like a British guy, like a British sounding guy. Let

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see. Oh okay, what because
I know that one video series that the

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lady did she just passed and it
included like pizzagate and I'm not even sure

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if it covered flat earth though.
Well, I just googled it and it's

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not there anymore. That doesn't surprise
me. You might find it on Rumble

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or a bit shoot things like that, but a lot of these videos come

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and go, yeah, you know
if they go against the official narrative.

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Right. My aunt sent it to
me on telegram, so that is where

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I have it. And yeah,
it's like twelve or thirteen parts. It's

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it's like, like I said,
it's like forty forty minute long episodes.

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They're quite long. But uh so, yeah, so much knowledge, so

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much knowledge and them and all of
it really just makes a lot of sense.

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Yeah, I've got a whole bunch
of Yeah, I've got them here.

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I googled them in preparation for the
show and I found it, but

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I could not I mean, I
can't find that was crazy. I highly

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recommend it though. That's really what
woke me up fully. And you know,

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this series obviously had a different things
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How did you react when they when
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my aunt kind of gave me like
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teaser, like, hey, like
look at this, it's got flatter stuff

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since the whole Baron Trump thing,
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that point I was I was kind
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okay, like, you know,
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don't know, but it's worth looking
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got a whole bunch of other stuff
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and the so on, so I
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truth about that. And then the
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since the video prefaced with NASA being
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no there's no fighting it. At
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isn't isn't a legitimate, truthful,
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like, okay, well, Flatters
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that was pretty much where I started
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just dove in, dove in,
dove in, started asking questions, googling

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things, talking to my buddy about
him. He's a very he's a very

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logical, straightforward, smart guy.
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how do you you know what about
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a rainbow and how that's formed,
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the air after like a cloud or
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those water particles are essentially circular,
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particles combined, millions of particles combined
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arc because of the arc in each
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air, and that's somehow they know
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doesn't really make any sense to me. And then I started thinking, if

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you were when you were a kid, you'll hold the hose up in the

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sun and you see a rainbow.
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water arches up, you know,
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so it goes up and it falls
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there's a rainbow in the exact same
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it's not it's not in the in
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if that was the case, the
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doesn't make any sense. And that
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just had to this day, I
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being flat and the water droplets reflecting
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how water stuck to a ball and
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programmed in a certain way, so
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every time I thought of it,
I thought, that's really odd that water

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could stick to a ball. And
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what, you're a flat earther,
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me how water sticks to a ball. Water needs a container. It has

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to have a container, and you
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know, circling the Earth, that
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model, that has always been at
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just never took the time to go
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might have become a flat earther a
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it's a ball, but it's too
much science for me. I'm just not

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smart enough exactly. And when you
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I think I am smart enough.
There's no way, you know,

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And that's that's what they want you
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vaccines. We have doctors for that. Don't question science, we have doc

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PhDs for that. Don't question space. We have Niedagrass Tyson, right.

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They want you to think that,
you know, we have subject matter experts

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who you just have to trust no
matter what. And you know, it

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came to be after realizing all these
things and histories or lies, why would

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this one thing be that is so
what do you think about it? How

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fast we're going, how fast we're
spinning. It's just ridiculous. When do

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you think about it? It really
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email. It was just so so
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guy can't even figure it out.
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because it just wouldn't make any sense. A big one for me was the

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you know, when you when the
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water. I was looking at that
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well, Earth is a globe you
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not supposed to even see that,
but we still can. So why is

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that? And I was starting I
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gravity curves light apparently right. But
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the that the Earth's gravitational power in
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but the suns is. But that's
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Earth light does not curve around the
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does not curve around the Earth.
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how can we see the ship?
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the light refracts and curves around the
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operator. My buddy, like I
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He received late at night on a
clear night, he received transmissions from

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North Korea. I've gotten from South
Florida from Europe. Excuse me, it

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wouldn't work around radio waves, don't
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type of conversation with people again,
it goes that they work on it so

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hard, so subconsciously. And that's
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look at every TV show, every
movie, you see a globe and they

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subconsciously hypnotize you to believe this Luta
Chris miracle lu to Chris likes and I

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don't know why I said miracle.
Right. They tell you two things when

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you're a child, that this big, you know, fat guy in a

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red suit delivers presence. And you
live on a ball, right, how

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many little babies and have those things
hanging above their crib, right, the

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little solar system hanging from their right
thing. But then you know, you

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get to be ten years old and
they're like, well we were lying about

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Santa Claus, but yeah, you're
really living on a ball. Everything is

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done so perfect that the people who
control the narrative here they understand how dangerous

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the flat Earth thing is. And
I'm afraid, or I think they're afraid

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if they come out too strongly against
it, people will be like basically what

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Justin Trudeau when he was sitting at
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and he turned a lot of people
into flat earthers because they know whatever

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he says is a lie. Yeah. I know. I'm Canadian. I

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was born in Canada and my dad
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me, you know, the stories
and legislation that's coming down, and you

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know, all kinds of stuff that
Justin should is doing. It's just it

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really is just crazy that dude is
off his rocker. He needs like prison

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first off, potentially death. I
don't know what's going on with it.

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There needs to be a lot of
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But they do such a good job
of dividing us. People buy into

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the politics and we stay so busy
fighting each other that we completely forget who's

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really controlling our misery. By the
way, before we get too far in

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our conversation, do you remember back
in oh my goodness, twenty seventeen,

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that guy who went to Comet Pizza
and I think he like shot a computer

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or something like that, oh vaguely. Yeah, So, you know,

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the whole Pizza Gate conspiracy was going
on, and this guy went to DC

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where Comet Pizza were supposedly, you
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the basement and he ended up like
shooting up. I don't know if it

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was a cash register or a computer
or something. Do you know who his

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the judge was who sentenced him.
No, I don't. So does the

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name, how do you say it, Catenja Brown Jackson sound familiar? She

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is the newest Supreme Court justice that
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twenty twenty two. Nope, not
familiar. But I do think that all

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the Supreme Court justices are not legit. Oh sure, sure, sure,

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sure, So I think she was
the one who replaced what was the lady

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who had been on there forever and
she passed, so she replaced I can't

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I'll think of her name later,
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that particular case. And always find
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this particular case all have connections because
if you remember that, I think the

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story came about because of the Wiki
leaks, you know, when they released

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that information and it was on Wasn't
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I believe. So she had a
lot of stuff going on in there,

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and that was a big thing in
that video series as well. Was her

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emails, and it's just once again
interesting how people write this stuff off.

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Again, if that was you or
I and we got rid of that evidence,

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would we would have spent twenty years
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here these people are. They continue, you know, what the Biden family

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does, what the Obamas do,
and even the Bushes. The Bushes should

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be held, you know, for
crimes against humanity, but they, you

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know, they just go about their
lives. And it's really interesting. It

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kind of sparks a little bit of
that like hopelessness to you. But you

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got to try and not be hopeless. But also, I mean for me

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at least, I just don't know
what I can do. I have no

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clue what I can do about it, except for, you know, t

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help people and try and wake people
up that you know they're corrupt and it's

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not what you think it is.
I wish I could do something more without

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you know, sacrificing my life.
Indeed, now, according to this,

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she replaced Stephen Bryer, who resigned
from the Supreme Court after twenty eight years

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there. I know there was another
Supreme Court justice who died, but I

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can't think of her name right now. It starts with a g. I'm

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sure everybody's screaming into their cell phone
right now the name of it. But

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yeah, flat Earth is something that
is is very big, and that is

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kind of the reason why we ended
up doing its own podcast because it was

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still very much, as you know, a stigma within the truth community.

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But you know, we understand how
big of a lie it is. Where

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do you stand as far as if
you want to use the term of religious,

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are spiritual as a person? Right? So my dad, well both

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my parents were my mom less so
anyway, my dad was very strict,

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you know, Bible Thumberg, very
very strict Christian always has my whole life.

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My parents gotvorced when I was younger
and I went to Living. I

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went back to Living, Canada when
I was tenth grade of high school,

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tenth eleventh grade, and for those
two years went to church every single Wednesday,

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youth group you know, Easters,
Christmases, Sundays, Wednesdays, all

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the time. I was always there, and I feel like it was sort

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of forced down. My throat was
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And at that point I think I
had friends. I don't At that

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age, I didn't care about it. I cared a lot more about you

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know, hanging out with my friends
and you know, being cool and whatever

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else. But growing up I started
to resent church a little bit and my

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mom. After eleventh grade of high
school, I went back to my mom,

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and she was in a church her
whole life as well. She was

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a choir director for many churches.
Uh you know the say. Uh she

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taught music, so she did a
lot of that stuff in the church with

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the music. And she always got
fired every single time for a bunch of

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bs lies, people lying about her
and whatever else. And I don't really

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know if it truly was her fault
because I was young, I don't really

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care that much or I don't or
like look into it too terribly. But

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from my perspective, she was wrongfully
fired many, many, many times.

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And at that point I started looking
into a religious corruption. And I come

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to realize that the Christian faith,
the Roman Catholic faith especially just so so

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deeply, so deeply corrupted that I
don't even want any part of it.

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I don't want I don't want nothing
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I at this point I have a
problem with, you know, the quote

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unquote church as an establis because in
my experience, most times, there's always

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something else going on on under the
under the behind the scenes, you know,

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the pastor doing something weird, or
there's something going on in the daycare.

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Just something weird going on always every
time. So I try to distance

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myself from the church as an establishment, and I've yet to find a group

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that that I, you know,
shared shared values with. But in the

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past couple of years, I ventured
a lot more into God and everything only

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back up the the point in time
in my life that I really started with,

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like you know, like a light
bulb moment. I got arrested a

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few years ago, uh for some
stupid stuff and ended up being in jail.

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They handed me a little Bible tracked
thing, and in that track,

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it's a really outlined the uh proverb
that's prophecy, right, Proverbs of Revelation.

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Right, there's a there's a book
that's set as something about prophecy.

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I believe that it's I don't know. Basically, in that tract, they

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were, you know, telling the
future, essentially talking about how there will

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be great steel chariots of that have
lights that will light the way, and

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we're going to talk through lightning and
all that kind of stuff, and basically

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they're talking about cars and telephones and
whatever else, and I was just like,

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wow, there's there's no way that
people way back when could could note

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that we're gonna have, you know, great steel chariots that are faster than

410
00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:33.759
whatever that's basically a car. And
I was like, Okay, that's interesting.

411
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.960
It's very interesting. And then when
I got out, I started looking

412
00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:40.960
a little bit more, and over
the past few years, I've been diving

413
00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:44.200
a little bit more by myself,
looking into the Book of Enoch and the

414
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:51.119
Bible. And at this point,
i'm fully, fully, I believe the

415
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:53.119
Bible fully, one hundred percent,
and I feel like if you don't believe

416
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.079
the Bible one hundred percent, then
you don't believe the Bible. And that's

417
00:30:57.279 --> 00:31:00.640
that's pretty much what I maintained at
this point, which is why And like

418
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.680
you said, the Bible specifically,
it's not hard to see. The earth

419
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:07.039
is fine, that that's what it
says. There's a dome above us.

420
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.400
That is directly what it says.
So therefore, if you don't believe that,

421
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:15.880
how do you believe anything else?
That's great to hear, And you

422
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.319
know, sometimes like myself. I
had to go through some extremely difficult times

423
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.599
to realize, you know, and
it's a shame that you really have to

424
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:30.039
go through certain things to be shown
the way, but that that is the

425
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:34.200
case for a lot of us,
and I too, am included in that.

426
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:40.480
There was a guy who was made
a video very recently, and while

427
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.519
you were talking, I was trying
to find it, but I kind of

428
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:45.880
respected him. He would go on
and, oh, here it is.

429
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:53.759
His name is, Oh, come
on, here it is. Have you

430
00:31:53.799 --> 00:32:00.720
ever heard of justin Peter's ministries.
It's interesting and he basically made a video

431
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.400
as we record, it's March twentieth. He made a video just three days

432
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:15.960
ago and he basically said that flat
earthers were embarrassing the Christian community. And

433
00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:17.599
he, for the most part,
was a fairly respected, you know guy,

434
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.200
but he always had I think it
was a globe of the earth and

435
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:27.440
like Saturn in the background, one
of those like two hundred dollars ones that

436
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.599
spin above this little plastic thing.
But he really laand blasted flat earthers.

437
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:38.799
And as we speak now, he
has over fifty three hundred comments, which

438
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:47.119
made me feel very good because many
of those comments were you know, and

439
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:51.960
that's what really upsets me. Why
are you going to bring devices stuff within

440
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:58.400
the Christian community? There is nothing, you know, satanic about flat earth,

441
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:01.920
so why would you div your own
community? And that's exactly what he

442
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:07.200
did. And if you look at
all the comments, you know, he's

443
00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:09.519
like a guy who's like, I
just subscribed to your channel last week and

444
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:13.240
recommended you to a bunch of people, and now I've got to go back

445
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.119
and tell them, you know,
here you are. You know you're supposed

446
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:22.039
to be, you know, this
well read biblical person. And you can't

447
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:27.240
even see what the word firmament means. You can't see what Joshua ten thirteen

448
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.240
means right when the sun and the
moon stood still? And how you're just

449
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:36.759
going to play that card And it
all comes from their programming. And I

450
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:42.079
guarantee you he's never taken the time
to look into what actually flatter it is,

451
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.039
right, He's got to take your
pride back for just just a second

452
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:49.680
and open up and try and look
into it actually, and you'll see there's

453
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.839
some things, I mean, granted, there's some things that make sense,

454
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.759
and there's some things that don't make
sense. But the fact alone that there's

455
00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:59.920
so much lies in what we're told
normally. That's enough for me to not

456
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.440
believe them. It just doesn't make
any sense. If they're gonna lie about

457
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:07.000
everything else, why would they not
live about flat Earth as well. And

458
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.760
it's interesting because his average video,
I'm going to click on this, hopefully

459
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:14.960
the volume won't come through. But
it's interesting because mostly he'll get fifteen or

460
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:16.800
twenty thousand. Like his last video, which was two days before that,

461
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.239
he had about two hundred and thirty
eight comments. And again this video is

462
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.039
several days older than the flat Earth
video he just did, and that video

463
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:31.800
created fifty three hundred comments. So
it is a very You've got to be

464
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.559
careful how you present something that isn't
you know, heretic or something that goes

465
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.599
against the Bible. If it just
goes against your beliefs as man like you

466
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:47.320
know how a piece of taste or
something like that, you know, fine,

467
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:52.320
But when you get into something that
you know that, I would guess

468
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.639
eighty percent of the people in the
flat Earth community are follow Christ or some

469
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.800
type of I hate to use the
word religion because I think many of us

470
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.159
are like you, right, we
read the Bible, we follow Jesus,

471
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.639
but we don't seem to assimilate into
our local churches for one reason or another.

472
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.440
But to go out and call your
your fellow brother and sister in Christ,

473
00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:19.960
uh, you know, silly flat
earthers, and that you're embarrassing the

474
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:23.400
Christian community. I mean that's a
slap in the face, right, kind

475
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:27.599
of like the what was it,
Locke odulum lock? Is that what it

476
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.480
was? What a uh yeah,
what a disaster that was? And crazy,

477
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.039
how are you going to like you
can't especially in your congregation. Oh

478
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.599
my goodness, you just proved yourself
to be like not, you know,

479
00:35:38.639 --> 00:35:42.480
not christ Like. And if you're
a I'm pretty sure the Bible says if

480
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.480
you're a teacher or a pastor,
you you are required to follow certain rules.

481
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.119
One of them is being christ Like
as best you can. Yeah.

482
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:52.400
That was three and a half months
ago, and that is still had,

483
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.760
that still has a lot of traction
on YouTube. People are still that was

484
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:01.159
just a bad look for especially for
Greg Locke. That was a really really

485
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:05.000
bad look. All right, my
o, pin's a great look for flat

486
00:36:05.039 --> 00:36:07.559
earthers because you see how angry he
got. Everybody sees how angry he got,

487
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.679
and it's like, Okay, well
what's going on. Yeah, this's

488
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:15.920
gotta be something up to this,
right, absolutely, And I'm surprised he

489
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:21.199
still even has a congregation after throwing
fellow Christians out of his church. Yeah,

490
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:22.480
I would have if I went to
church, I would have I would

491
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:28.400
have left for sure. So at
becoming a flat Earth or what other doors

492
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:34.119
has it opened to you for your
for your eyes and your critical thinking slash

493
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:38.840
you know, conspiracy theorist mind.
Man, everything, I'm everywhere I look,

494
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:43.840
I might see, you know,
the number thirty three or thirteen or

495
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.320
sixty six, but I might see
it. It's everywhere I look, quite

496
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:52.679
literally, and in every movie especially, there's always some kind of symbolism that

497
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:59.440
I'm seeing on Netflix and whatever else. And so I think what I said

498
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:02.239
in my email was that flat Earth
was kind of like the ending one.

499
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:08.039
So I got led up to I
got led up to conspiracies my whole life

500
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.800
pretty much, just you know,
mine early here and there, and then

501
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.960
I really started looking into eight years
ago, and I pretty much ended with

502
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:20.679
flat Earth and flat Earth kind of
tied them all together because if all of

503
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:25.440
these other conspiracies are uh, you
know true, in my opinion, then

504
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:29.760
flatter also has to be because there's
no way that would. They're lying about

505
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:36.719
everything else and not and not flat
Earth. So basically looking at all of

506
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:38.920
these conspiracies and looking into flat earth
led me to other conspiracies as well,

507
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:43.440
just because just because I'm interested,
and that allowed me to see the world

508
00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:45.840
in a different way because now I
can make better decisions in my life,

509
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:51.960
and you know, as we go
on, just like you know, Uh,

510
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.559
I didn't get vaccinated with the COVID
vaccine because I obviously why what I

511
00:37:55.599 --> 00:38:00.519
And I'm trying to catch my train
of thought. Year do you think that

512
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.480
was because you were in Florida and
you had that ability? Uh? Did

513
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:10.039
your work? Were they like encouraging
you to get the vaccine? Uh?

514
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:15.800
I was never required. I've always
been a I always struggled with working,

515
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.079
you know, hourly and you know, going to work punching and punching out.

516
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:22.519
I've always struggled with that. I
don't like it at all. So

517
00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:23.960
now I now I get paid for
jobs. Basically the harder I work,

518
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.119
the more I get paid. And
I'm also like technically self employed, so

519
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.599
they really can't kind of what to
do, which is ideal and in the

520
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.920
and in the construction industry as well. They didn't require me to do that

521
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.880
either, So I was never faced
with like a loss, Hey, you

522
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.760
know, get the vaccine or this
is gonna happen. I've never I was

523
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.000
never dealt with that decision, which
I'm thankful for because I wouldn't. I

524
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:51.719
don't know what I would do.
Yeah, that is that is something to

525
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.400
be thankful for. And uh,
your debt. It seems you and your

526
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.519
father pretty like minded. Did you
guys have a lot of conversations when they

527
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:04.639
first kicked off. Did you understand
what was really behind this whole agenda?

528
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:09.480
Well, I don't think my dad
is as far as I am, but

529
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:14.639
my dad is very anti vacci.
I wasn't vaccinated as a baby at all.

530
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.880
My dad did that. He said, no, not at all.

531
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:22.199
So I don't have a single vaccine
in my body whatsoever. And I personally

532
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:25.119
think that I had a lot of
benefits because of that. As far as

533
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.559
immune system. I almost never get
sick. And I'm you know, I

534
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.159
work in the dirt, like I'm
running around with people, and I never

535
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.840
get sick very rarely, maybe maybe
once a year maybe, And I feel

536
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.800
like I have a lot of,
you know, developmental advantages as well,

537
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.400
because I feel like vaccines, even
the baby ones, just like like the

538
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.559
vitamin K shot, all that kind
of stuff. It's supposed to really affect

539
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.400
you growing up as far as development
goes. And the fact that I didn't

540
00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.360
have any of that, I feel
like maybe maybe I'm better off. I

541
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:04.239
don't know, but I don't.
I'm glad my father never never vaccinated me,

542
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.519
for sure, I knowing what I
know now. Yeah, So the

543
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:12.480
gentleman I interviewed this past Saturday night, Jason, he had mentioned, your

544
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.519
body doesn't start to if I remember
correctly, your body doesn't start to generate

545
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:20.400
vitamin K until the eighth day.
That's why you wait to get circumcised to

546
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:23.079
the eight day so your blood can
coagulate. So when they put that in

547
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:28.639
your body at birth, it messes
up your system, doesn't There's a reason

548
00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.679
why our body does certain things at
certain times, and when you alter that

549
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:37.280
timeframe, it doesn't give your chance
I guess a body, or chance to

550
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.599
completely heal from childbirth. Something to
that nature. During that first seven days

551
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:47.159
was really interesting. I'd never really
looked at that before. That's interesting a

552
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.960
connection. I just I was just
reading the Book of josh Er yesterday and

553
00:40:53.320 --> 00:41:00.000
it said that Abram when documented Abraham
to get the circumcision of his people,

554
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:05.400
it's also after eight days. Yep. Absolutely that that's because that's when your

555
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.000
body can start the coagulation. And
that's I guess why you're supposed to wait

556
00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.440
the eight days is because the vitamin
K that's when it starts generating. But

557
00:41:12.519 --> 00:41:15.400
when it's put at at birth,
then you're it kind of jacks up your

558
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:21.639
system like so many of these other
not even to mension, the formaldehyde and

559
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:28.639
all these other uh conjuncts that that
that put in to the and to these

560
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.159
vaccines which are so harmful, whether
it be mercury or like I said,

561
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:36.480
formaldehyde, there's so many dangerous things
within these vaccines. It's very nefarious.

562
00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.239
Yeah, I think, yeah,
that is. That's kind of crazy.

563
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:44.760
How even I mean, we already
know, but even as God he knew

564
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:50.079
that, you know, obviously obviously
he created us, right because how how

565
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.800
would he know to to make sure
you don't circumcise before eight days because the

566
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.599
baby will bleed out? Like,
like, how are you gonna know that?

567
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:59.960
Obviously God, you know, obviously
he created us because he wouldn't know

568
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:05.280
that if you didn't. And by
the way, I should tie tie up

569
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:09.320
something we spoke about before. So
Ruth Bader Ginsburg died in twenty twenty.

570
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.000
I can't believe it's been four years. It doesn't seem that long. And

571
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:17.159
Amy Cony Barrett was the one who
succeeded her, and then Steven Bryer retired,

572
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:24.239
and that's who, uh conten Ja
Brown Jackson uh succeeded. And again

573
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:28.519
she's the one who is the judge
in the in the Pizzagate comet shooting,

574
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:35.199
which again another coin for the conspiracy
jar. Have you had any luck sharing

575
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:46.519
no knowledge of flat Earth with anyone? Not fully, not fully. I've

576
00:42:46.559 --> 00:42:51.320
gotten a couple of wheels turning,
you know, but not not fully convinced

577
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:53.920
anybody. Back when I first,
you know, started believing it fully,

578
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.320
I brought it up at work and
everybody was like, oh, no,

579
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.320
you're you're crazy all that. I
was like, yeah, what I wrap.

580
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:06.320
I expect that for sure. I'm
usually kind of like the I guess

581
00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.800
you could say class clown or whatever. But so I worked in patter with

582
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.960
the joker and they kind of took
they didn't take me seriously because of that

583
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:15.079
reason, which is, you know, fine, it's almost a better position.

584
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:19.480
I started googling some things, and
I was googling, you know,

585
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:22.320
the NASA fails and I was like, I mean, look at this.

586
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:28.440
Uh. It was actually specifically it
was the Go Fast Rocket and and the

587
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.719
YouTube video was titled disproving the Go
Fast Rocket and and so on, and

588
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:38.360
in that video it's I showed everybody, Uh it curved like like you know,

589
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:40.960
the the curvature of the Earth.
In the video, it went from

590
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.719
curve to flat and then back and
then and then like an inverse curve.

591
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.320
And they were all like, oh, that's weird. Oh that's weird.

592
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.480
I was like, yeah, yep, and it is a little weird.

593
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.360
Start looking into it. Yeah.
You could spend days looking at NASA fails.

594
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.719
Right, And that's my biggest thing. If you can if you can

595
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.840
see, if you can disprove you
know, what we understand as outer space,

596
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.480
everything else falls in place. And
that is very easy to disprove,

597
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.159
in my opinion, is the outer
space. And you can google Devin Island.

598
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:20.519
NASA has a bunch of Devon islanding. I think it's greenland that they

599
00:44:20.519 --> 00:44:22.920
film a lot of stuff up there. It's been proven that a lot of

600
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:28.880
the images they claim to be from
Mars is from Devon Island in Greenland.

601
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:31.559
Right. A friend of mine was
like, you know, I have the

602
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:37.280
moon rock and I was like,
I mean, okay, but how do

603
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.840
you know it came from the Moon, And like, did they really haul

604
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.000
like freighters full of rocks to sell
to people on Earth? Like, probably

605
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:47.440
not? So is it actually moon
rock? Probably not? Oh oh yeah,

606
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.280
that makes sense. Yeah, you
know, And that's another one of

607
00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.320
my what is becoming one of my
silver bullets is how is it when we

608
00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:59.639
look up at the moon, it's
it's so bright and obviously it would only

609
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.639
be bright or the closer you got
to it, But when they show us

610
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.840
images from it, it's just a
dusty old rock. Is that just their

611
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.679
way of mocking us? Hey?
It just doesn't make any sense to me

612
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.320
at all on that topic. Can
you explain something for me? I how

613
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:20.440
the moon is its own luminary and
the sun and the moon temperature in the

614
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:25.079
shadow is like different. Yeah,
the the moon light is colder than the

615
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:30.840
variant temperature on the ground. So
it's very easier to do. Just put

616
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.719
one thermometer in the shade at night, like behind a tree or something,

617
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.079
and then put another one directly in
the moonlight. You'll see a difference of

618
00:45:40.079 --> 00:45:45.719
two to three degrees every time.
And the reason that that cruise spot Earth

619
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:52.000
is because it's not the sun giving
temperature, which would be constant correct,

620
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.400
correct, That's crazy to me,
that's yeah. And if you look at

621
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.400
again, if you go to Google, who was the master of it,

622
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.639
will tell you that the sun,
you know, the sun shines on the

623
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.239
moon, and the moon reflects the
light down on us, which is again

624
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.360
ridiculous, especially again if you look
at the pictures that they send, it

625
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.000
would be so bright they wouldn't even
be able to see if you, if

626
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.280
you honestly think about it, that
there's no way they would be able to

627
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:20.599
see if they got that close to
it. Because even if the Bible says

628
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:25.199
the moon is a lesser light,
it is still plenty bright. Right.

629
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.039
And again it's I don't believe it
is a rock where you can physically walk

630
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.599
on it. I think it is
a very you know, it's number one

631
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:37.920
within the firmament, so you can't
even land on it. And I would

632
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:40.760
assume it's some type of you know, we can't even understand what substance it

633
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:46.239
is. We would equate it to
something like plasma. But these things we

634
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.480
are never going to know until,
you know, we go on to the

635
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:54.639
next life, until we you know, walk through those pearly gates. But

636
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:59.440
but science has an answer for everything, and that's what people need to understand.

637
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:04.440
How are history books have an answer
for everything and ninety percent of those

638
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:09.679
are lies? And it's the same
with you know, the heliocentric model and

639
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:16.920
all its answers. They're lies.
Yeah. I really don't understand how it's

640
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.119
believable to some people age they just
put it out of their mind and it

641
00:47:22.119 --> 00:47:25.400
doesn't matter to them. But my
opinion, it matters greatly as far as

642
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.480
you know. Salvation number one and
number two how to live life on this

643
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.960
earth and number three, how to
not get sick and die earlier than you

644
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.920
should be, is another big one. I know you're more towards the northern

645
00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:43.239
part of Florida, But have you
been able to witness any launches? No,

646
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:45.840
I haven't seen them, but I
have seen the arguments how it always

647
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:51.320
goes up and curves. Yep.
I was talking to a friend the other

648
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.559
day, crazy, crazy, crazy, I was talking to friend of that

649
00:47:54.840 --> 00:48:00.719
and he was telling me, well, so what happens is the rocket goes

650
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:05.480
up, the top piece disconnects,
and then the fuel canisters fall down,

651
00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.519
and that's what you're seeing, Kirk. And I'm like, okay, but

652
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.840
like, how number one we would
see that that that you know, human

653
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.920
capsule go up into the space.
You'd be able to see that because it's

654
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.880
close enough. And then also,
if you're spinning at this fast, you're

655
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.280
telling me that they just sniped the
Moon, like you know, they somehow

656
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:34.360
calculated you know, the Earth's rotation
and the Solar System's position, and launch

657
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.679
it the precise second where it's going
to be. It's gonna basically slingshot you

658
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:39.800
around. And if that's the case, wouldn't the rocket goes straight up because

659
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:44.599
it has to be slingshot to you
know, hit the moon. Just doesn't

660
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:49.039
make any sense. Yeah, And
all those things you try to point out

661
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.920
to people and they always have their
scientific answer for it, and they're smarter

662
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:54.360
than us, they know better,
they are And you know what's funny is

663
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.239
we've done we know more about heliocentric
model than they do, and we've actually

664
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.320
going out and done laser tests.
We can see too far. As I

665
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:08.639
mentioned earlier about the moonlight, on
and on and on and but but they

666
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:14.360
will just take And again it bugs
me because a lot of even truthers who

667
00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:19.079
understand that everything from nine to eleven
to World War Two is a complete lie,

668
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.639
but they actually think they're telling us
the truth about the flat earth.

669
00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:25.079
That again, I hate to beat
a dead horse, but it really goes

670
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:30.239
to show how much effort and work
they put into, you know, the

671
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.800
prison planet locking, you know,
putting that lock on your mind, on

672
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.960
that last door that you know,
we've been trying to break down here for

673
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:44.079
the last year and a half at
least on this podcast. Yeah, definitely.

674
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:49.599
I it's it's crazy to mean to
a thing and try it. It's

675
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.599
almost it's like mind blowing thinking of
all the conspiracies and trying to compile them

676
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.079
all into your head and make sense
of it. I mean, the only

677
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.599
sense that I can make is that
it's just a bunch of bs and what

678
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.719
I believe is true, and that's
really all I can go off of at

679
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.760
this point. Now, I want
to touch back on your email because you

680
00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:15.960
had mentioned that you had already said
that you're convinced God is real and you're

681
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:19.519
a Bible believer. But you did
say you had an interesting take on creation.

682
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.760
You said you believe we aren't the
first. You believe there was a

683
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:27.599
previous Earth type place with some form
of life on it, and during the

684
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.800
Fall, the battle destroyed it utterly, so much so that God had to

685
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:35.559
rebuild and start a new perfect creation, which is us. And then you

686
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:39.400
had a few Bible verses to support
it, So go ahead. Yeah,

687
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:43.400
when I was in high school,
my mom brought us part of this church,

688
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:45.880
and I forget the name and everything, I remember who they are.

689
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:52.280
That's how I actually found more knowledge
about it. But they taught me that

690
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.159
in that there was a previous,
not necessarily perfect creation. There was just

691
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:04.280
some form of life four us,
some form maybe not you know, our

692
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:09.239
normal humans maybe who knows. But
in let me see if I can pull

693
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:12.679
up the verse here. Basically,
that's what they taught me. And then

694
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:17.159
and then and then during the fall, everything was destroyed and then God restarted

695
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:22.719
with a brand new US, human, perfect perfect creation. Here we are.

696
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:27.079
Oh, let me see if I
can find the verse on the biblop

697
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:31.400
it is the verse is it's Peter
two, Peter three five through three,

698
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:37.960
six, and uh, you have
to forgive me, I'm not the most

699
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:43.119
terribly knowledgeable. No. It says
for this they willingly are ignorant of that

700
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.719
by the word of God, the
heavens were of old, and the earth

701
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:50.760
standing out of the water and in
the water. And then six says whereby

702
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:55.239
the world that then was being overflowed
with water perish, which is referring to

703
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.800
you know, uh, Noah arc
and the flood of the earth. I'm

704
00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:13.159
trying to trying to find it.
Yeah. Second, Peter, Now,

705
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.159
grants, I might be wrong about
this, but this is what I was

706
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.599
taught, and it's what made a
lot of sense. But recently I'm not

707
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:24.119
sure if the I mean, the
Book of Knock says that people that there

708
00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:29.039
was just the one flood, so
I might be wrong on this. Yeah,

709
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:30.920
it's if you start, you know, Genesis six, and it talks

710
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:34.880
about how evil the world became,
and then uh, you know, he

711
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:39.920
chows Noah, and of course Noah's
story happened, and then you know that

712
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:44.400
that was basically the the nephilum,
what was in that, that's how evil

713
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.199
the world was. So he flooded
the earth and then uh started again with

714
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:51.800
Noah uh and everything else. And
then not too long after that, of

715
00:52:51.800 --> 00:53:00.039
course, was Genesis eleven, which
was of course Nimron. Right in the

716
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:02.199
Book of Jasher is a lot on
Nimrod. That's very very interesting for me.

717
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:07.440
Yeah, and Joshua ten thirteen,
if I'm not mistaken, actually refers

718
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:13.159
to the Book of Josher. Actually
I think it's josh Er eighty nine it

719
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:20.039
refers to, which is crazy to
me because isn't aren't like the Dead Sea

720
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:24.480
scrolls, those aren't supposed to be
God inspired, But if the Bible is

721
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:30.719
referring to them, like, what's
what's the deal there? Yeah, the

722
00:53:30.719 --> 00:53:32.960
Book of Jasher is mentioned, but
I think I'm not sure if the Book

723
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.880
of Enoch is referred to. Obviously, the person Enoch is referred to in

724
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:46.199
the Bible, but that's one of
the few books the Apocrypha that are actually

725
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:51.599
acknowledged, And it's interesting because it
actually acknowledges the book and a chapter,

726
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:57.559
which that's why a lot of people
will do the Geneva Bible because that does

727
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.360
include the fourteen chapters of the including
the Book of Jashure, but it does

728
00:54:01.360 --> 00:54:08.639
not have Enoch, right is That's
my dad always told me he said,

729
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:13.360
it's not God inspired, but there's
something there. I think. Yeah,

730
00:54:13.639 --> 00:54:15.280
it's like a history book. I
guess it's probably the best way to put

731
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:20.719
it, right. I feel like
it goes through the life about him and

732
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:25.639
even what happened after creation a little
bit more than just what the Bible says,

733
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.400
which is very interesting for me.
That's a part of the reason why

734
00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:34.719
I believe it. Yeah, thirteen
says and the sun stood still, and

735
00:54:34.760 --> 00:54:37.719
the moon stayed until the people have
avenged themselves upon their enemies. And then

736
00:54:37.760 --> 00:54:42.639
it says, is not this written
in the Book of Jashure? So the

737
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:46.039
sun stood still in the midst of
heaven and hasted not to go down about

738
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.679
a whole day. It just says
the book. For some I know it's

739
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.840
chapter eighty nine, but again it
does say the Book of Joshure. So

740
00:54:53.239 --> 00:55:01.039
very interesting indeed for sure. Yeah. Yeah, And I had another question

741
00:55:01.079 --> 00:55:04.519
for you. I think it had
to do with Florida. Are you seeing

742
00:55:04.519 --> 00:55:07.239
this influx of people that are coming
in, you know, because here in

743
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:12.360
Delaware we're getting an influx of New
York folks, which is driving up real

744
00:55:12.440 --> 00:55:15.800
estate prices just insanely, on top
of the interest rates that are very high.

745
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:22.199
Are you guys getting an influx of
people fleeing whatever, you know,

746
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:24.920
California and New York, et cetera. Yeah, there's a lot of people

747
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:30.199
here that are well, I live
in college town, so I have a

748
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:34.760
lot of people from a lot of
different areas. So I'm not too knowledgeable

749
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.679
on the more like residential you know
cities, this is where the capital is,

750
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:42.880
and this is and where Florida State
is. So I got a lot

751
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.480
of people from a lot of different
walks of life as well. So,

752
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:51.280
but I do know that people are
Florida is the retirement capital of the United

753
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:57.880
States. Everybody comes to Florida once
they get old, Yeah, for sure,

754
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:02.760
and it's a booming economy, and
I guess it's one of the few

755
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.199
places. You know, there was
a lot of tyranny going on everywhere,

756
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:10.519
but I think Florida was one of
the places that never although I've had people

757
00:56:10.519 --> 00:56:15.679
from Florida on and they said while
the news was reporting that that you know,

758
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:19.480
Florida was as bashed from masks,
that there was still a lot of

759
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:23.840
cities and towns that were pushing it. There were as far as COVID there

760
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.840
were for sure. I think,
well, once it became a from my

761
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:36.719
understanding, once it became a national
mandate, everybody had to follow the rules.

762
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:38.480
But as soon as that man it
was lifted, a lot of people

763
00:56:39.559 --> 00:56:44.440
took off the mask, including me, and took a lot of flak for

764
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:51.480
it. But other than not,
Yeah, Florida's pretty well as free as

765
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:52.679
free as we can get. Florida
is one of the freer ones, I

766
00:56:52.719 --> 00:57:00.719
would believe. Indeed, Yeah,
great stuff. Was there any points that

767
00:57:00.800 --> 00:57:10.679
you wanted to hit that we haven't
talked about yet? Let see, right

768
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.639
out of my five it's this six
silver bullets. Me see if I can

769
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:20.480
find Yeah, for sure what I
had here? Right? The Captain Cook

770
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.000
certain navigation that was a big one
for me. That was interes didn't make

771
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:29.880
any sense because how you know,
how can he how can he travel for

772
00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.559
so long and come up with however
many miles he came up with when it's

773
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.199
not supposed to be nearly that big
and then that's just breezed over, you

774
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.800
know. That is also I'm glad
you mentioned that is something I've mentioned quite

775
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.400
often in conversations with And this is
just off the top of my head.

776
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.400
I want to say, you know, if you go around. According to

777
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:52.920
the globe, it's like twelve or
fifteen thousand miles if that would be the

778
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.039
circumference of Antarctica if you did it
by boat. But he what did it

779
00:57:57.039 --> 00:57:59.719
to take him two and a half
three years and it was over sixty thousand

780
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:04.280
miles. He navigated right. And
the argument is, well, what if

781
00:58:04.280 --> 00:58:06.480
you got lost and got turned around? I'm like, well, how would

782
00:58:06.519 --> 00:58:08.079
you do that? If you all
you have to do is look to your

783
00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:13.639
left or right and if there's land
there consistently that you're on draft. Yeah,

784
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.079
that that's a silly argument, especially
since he was considered one of the

785
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.280
premiere I mean, if you're going
to go on that type of expedition,

786
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.440
you're not some rookie who's going to
get lost, right, You're gonna die

787
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:28.039
if you're if you're a rookie for
sure, and then that and in those

788
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:32.000
cold temperatures as well, it just
doesn't make it doesn't make any sense to

789
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:37.000
me. I I don't I don't
think that that is legitimate. Did you

790
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:43.199
ever buy the Admiral bird Secret Diary? So that's so interesting to me.

791
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.880
That is so interesting because part of
me, you know, part of me,

792
00:58:45.960 --> 00:58:50.239
you know the fantasy lover. Part
of me is like, no way,

793
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.880
that's got That's so cool, right, there's like a you know,

794
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.639
Hallo of Earth and he got sucked
in and you know, sent out to

795
00:58:55.719 --> 00:59:00.159
do his mission. That's so cool, Like what if that's true? But

796
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:06.679
also there's in my from what I've
seen, is very little additional evidence apart

797
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:13.079
from his journal, and like you
know, there's like Nazis in the in

798
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.800
the middle of the Earth that just
it's it's it seems it's hard to believe.

799
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:21.400
Agreed, one hundred percent agreed.
I think it's something his sun got

800
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.440
his hand on, maybe wanted to
make a few bucks and ran with it.

801
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:30.599
You know, we'll never probably know, is there may be something else

802
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:35.639
past there? We don't know,
but I do believe we are actually you

803
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:37.880
know, it's flat mostly obviously mountains
and everything else, and we're covered,

804
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:43.440
you know, like a terrarium styled
firmament, you know, the whole earth

805
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.000
in a vacuum, you know,
next to a vacuum. It makes no

806
00:59:46.119 --> 00:59:50.960
sense. Rocketry would not even work
in a vacuum, right, And that's

807
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.880
yeah, I think you got the
Van Allen Belt and that's supposed to burn

808
00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:59.079
at like two thousand to twenty thousand
degrees depending on where you are, Yeah,

809
00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:01.719
depend where you are. Yeah.
Like, namely, one material that

810
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:07.159
can sustain that for any period of
time lay on Earth. There's there's not

811
01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:13.280
one. And if you look at
the hunk of garbage that they tell us

812
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.480
that went to the Moon, that
is a complete joke, right, lawn

813
01:00:15.559 --> 01:00:22.079
chairs, aluminum foil and plastic wrap, that's all it was. That's insane.

814
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:27.559
I that's another big prover that we
never went to there to the Moon

815
01:00:27.639 --> 01:00:32.760
was because yeah, I mean the
radio call to the President from the Moon,

816
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:42.079
the actual lunar lander, nothing adds
up at all whatsoever. I was

817
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.480
watching video of the Last Space Walk, I think it was nineteen seventy two,

818
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.679
and one of the guys fell over
and it was so obvious he had

819
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:53.360
a harness attached to him, Like, it was so obvious. And then

820
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:57.119
I go down to the comments section
and people were just talking about what a

821
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:00.159
miracle and how amazing this was,
and I'm just like wow, you know.

822
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.199
But then I also realized at one
point I was them. I was,

823
01:01:05.199 --> 01:01:07.440
and not to be like I'm awake, look at me, but I'm

824
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:14.719
just saying I believe the lie making
it. Yeah, that's how can you

825
01:01:14.760 --> 01:01:19.400
see something that's so obvious and then
just because it's produced by a specific company,

826
01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:25.599
just just believe it blindly. It's
just like even in even in their

827
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:30.400
uh, let's see what I want
to talk about in their videos, there's

828
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.280
a many many videes. You find
them all over on Dave's app Flat Earth,

829
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:39.519
Dave app, on the NASA fails
page on him on his YouTube playlists.

830
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.320
A lot of the fails have weird
curves in them when it's not supposed

831
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:49.639
to. Because if you know anything
about a fish eye lens, the the

832
01:01:50.079 --> 01:01:54.400
you know, item that is in
in the lens, the more it's centered,

833
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.840
it's not gonna be distorted nearly as
much. But as soon as that

834
01:01:59.840 --> 01:02:04.639
that item goes you know, left, right, center, anywhere but the

835
01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.679
center of the screen, it's gonna
get distorted. That's how fish eye lens

836
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.239
works. So if it goes up, it's gonna get bent down. If

837
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:12.239
it goes down, it's gonna be
bent up. If it goes left,

838
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:16.519
it's gonna be bent you know that
way. And as soon as I saw

839
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:20.880
a video of a wrench being floating, it was floating in space during space

840
01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:25.599
spacewalk and the wrench floated, you
know, off camera, and as more

841
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:29.000
it got to the edge of the
screen, it bent more and more and

842
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:34.719
more and more. And that that
alone is just proof that it's just a

843
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.800
whole pot of lies. It's just
you know, and they only show the

844
01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:43.079
earth, the Earth's turvature on the
edge of the screen when it's in like

845
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:45.360
a video, and they never showed
when it's flat on because when it's flat

846
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:50.239
centered on the video camera, the
Earth is flat, it shows right there.

847
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.400
So one of the questions that I've
been pondering quite often lately is,

848
01:02:55.719 --> 01:02:59.239
you know, you have all these
people who are involved with NASA. Obviously,

849
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.360
we know the people who work behind
the computers and take out the trash

850
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:07.360
and make parts that they're all compartmentalized
and have their own job and then don't

851
01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:13.239
really get to the they'll launch the
iss that type of thing. There are

852
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:17.440
people within this government, you know, it's several thousand who know the lie.

853
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:23.079
So I've been really doing some research
and trying to understand, so do

854
01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:28.360
the are these people just regular people
who you know, went through life and

855
01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.880
then when they've got to NASA,
they were told, you know, they

856
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.599
were taken into a room and they
had to join a secret society where they

857
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.760
were told if you ever speak of
this, your family will get wiped off

858
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:42.000
the earth. Or And this is
something that I've I've mentioned with a few

859
01:03:42.039 --> 01:03:44.880
other people. I'm not sure if
I've ever said it on the podcast.

860
01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.440
But what is the chance there is
a I don't know if I want to

861
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:54.599
use the word continent, but a
sizable land that is out there that nobody

862
01:03:54.639 --> 01:04:00.800
knows of, probably in the Pacific, where they raise the these people up

863
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:04.920
to believe the world in a certain
fashion. Uh, and then they they

864
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:10.159
bring them into the States or wherever
on the world stage, and they they

865
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:14.679
honestly believe what they are saying,
like like it's you know, some kind

866
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:21.119
of mind control process. Because I
do suspect because you know, the whole

867
01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:26.679
NASA thing has been going on for
sixty years now, uh, and there

868
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:30.920
have been some whistleblowers. Do you
think that anything like that is possible?

869
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:40.119
I mean, we've seen some pretty
some pretty extraordinary lies, some pretty complicated,

870
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.519
you know, deceptions with many,
many, many layers, and I

871
01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:49.159
think it's possible. And as far
as regular folks like you and me discovering

872
01:04:49.199 --> 01:04:57.519
that land probably not right, but
other government. I mean, obviously we

873
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:01.119
already know that all the governments for
the most part, are involved in this

874
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:11.000
you know, conspiracy. So you're
saying that potentially everybody that works in like

875
01:05:11.079 --> 01:05:16.239
upper government was potentially raised to believe
what they believe and then pushed on the

876
01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:20.320
regular people like you and me.
Yeah, exactly. Imagine being born in

877
01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:27.800
a land that nobody knows of and
the whole time you're brought up just you

878
01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.480
know, you're going to be an
astronaut, you're going to be a president,

879
01:05:30.599 --> 01:05:36.639
and they just like it's nothing but
a mind controlled you know, process

880
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:42.480
for eighteen twenty thirty years. Because
if you're brought up somewhere with no TV,

881
01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.519
no radio, you have nothing that's
going on, and you're meant to

882
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:49.599
believe something, and then you're brought
into a certain position. I mean,

883
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:54.360
I think you can alter the mind
in ways that we just can't even understand

884
01:05:54.400 --> 01:06:00.079
now. David Weiss he believes that
the North Korea is a front for the

885
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:02.960
CIA, and that could be one
of the lands where this is done.

886
01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:06.679
If you remember we had the Korean
War in the fifties, and you know,

887
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:11.440
it's supposedly one of the most secretive
places in the world. I think

888
01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:15.239
he tends to think similar to what
I think, but instead of some far

889
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.360
distant land, I think he thinks
it's North Korea, and that's definitely possible,

890
01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.840
and we don't know. As far
as I'm aware, we don't know

891
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:26.840
just about anything about North Korea apart
from you don't want to go there because

892
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:30.199
it won't let you out and it's
a terrible, terrible place to live.

893
01:06:30.360 --> 01:06:34.880
Right There's been a couple people that
have, you know, escaped North Korea,

894
01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:42.920
like that one girl on TikTok and
other testimonies that have escaped, and

895
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:49.119
potentially that would make sense because I
can't imagine being mind controlled and everything from

896
01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:54.960
birth would be the best life ever
for you. Because you can do research

897
01:06:55.039 --> 01:07:00.960
that there was CIA in North Korea
beginning in the late forties, and if

898
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.239
you look at that weird time during
the mid to late forties when the OSS

899
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:11.519
turned into the CIA and then there
is you can find conspiracies. There's a

900
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:15.960
few out people out there who believe
that North Korea is actually because if not,

901
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:20.000
if I'm not mistaken, Kim Jung
un he actually went to college in

902
01:07:20.079 --> 01:07:25.239
Switzerland, and that is one of
the biggest red airings in the world.

903
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:29.639
That is the home of the World
Economic Forum, the Bank of International Settlements,

904
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.400
that's where the World Zionis organization started
in eighteen ninety seven. And it

905
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:39.199
too is the polar opposite of North
Korea. Right, it's the secret you

906
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:45.079
can't go there and communists and then
you know they portray Switzerland is the polar

907
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:50.199
opposite, right, Chocolate and yodeling
and dancing in the mountains. But you

908
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:56.719
really have everything I just mentioned,
plus CERN and a lot of evil roots

909
01:07:56.760 --> 01:08:02.400
of Switzerland. So it's interesting those
two connect CERN. CERN was a big

910
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:05.679
topic of discussion I think like a
year and a half ago when they were

911
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:11.079
doing that big test during the during
COVID, I believe, and they were

912
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:15.840
telling us that, well, the
conspiracies were that that them doing that opened

913
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:20.119
up some kind of crazy rift in
time and changed our dimension. And now

914
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.640
here we are in the dimension that
that they want us to be in.

915
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:26.920
I don't know if to shoot any
of that. I don't know anything about

916
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.279
particle accelerators or anything like that,
but I do know that CERN is not

917
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.600
the best company on the planet.
Uh. They They do a pretty deep

918
01:08:33.640 --> 01:08:40.439
dive on CERN in the video series
that that that woke me up. They

919
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.319
did, uh, they did like
a human sacrifice in the cern courtyard.

920
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:49.640
Their logo there, don't they have
like Shiva, the god of destruction in

921
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:54.640
front of their building. Yeah,
and they had a very weird opening ceremony

922
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.760
where they did sacrifice someone in effigy, right, just kind of like when

923
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:03.159
Alex Joe first went to Bohemian Grove
in two thousand where they burned someone.

924
01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.920
It was an effigy, but it
was still a ritual. Which again,

925
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:10.640
I don't think he's snuck in there. He's part of the club. But

926
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:16.079
that's that's a conversation for another day. Yeah. Yeah, I mean in

927
01:09:16.199 --> 01:09:24.359
the the video series that I watched, there was a video of this guy

928
01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:27.399
was was in his apartment complex or
whatever, and he's, you know,

929
01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.560
peeking through the blinds and you can
see it's like if he's like taking on

930
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:33.960
his iPhone and you can see that
It wasn't terribly clear, but you could

931
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:41.079
see that somebody, somebody or an
effigy was sacrificed in the courtyard. I

932
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:44.399
saw the video. Oh that's right. I remember the screaming and all that

933
01:09:44.399 --> 01:09:47.479
that was going on, right,
and that was crazy, Like part of

934
01:09:47.520 --> 01:09:49.840
me thinks that no way they would
do that in the public eye. But

935
01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:57.600
also they might. I don't know, yeah, I think that. I

936
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:02.199
think. I'll tell me your opinion. So obviously you're aware of all of

937
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.119
these, you know, Jamatria and
the numbers and the coincidences and all these

938
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:11.279
things that just tie in together.
It just doesn't make any sense. Do

939
01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.760
you think that it is supernatural by
any means? Like demonic? Actually?

940
01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:23.159
What's that like? Okay, okay, I'll just you know, just a

941
01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:28.000
basic one. Yeah, the whole
Taylor Swift conspiracy and how she has you

942
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:31.079
know, this is our thirteenth game. She came to Travis Kelsey's numbers,

943
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.359
uh, his Jersey numbers whatever,
minus thirteen and then oh yeah, she

944
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:40.359
flew thirteen hours to get here,
and yeah, everything else is rituals by

945
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:44.680
the numbers. Uh, that's why. So are you familiar with the rock

946
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:48.880
band The Police uh from you?
Yes, Yeah, it's yeah. They're

947
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:51.840
big in the eighties, They were
huge in the early in nineteen eighty three,

948
01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:57.439
and they released a song about Jamatria
in nineteen eighty three, and everything

949
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.640
is inverted. The inversion of eighty
three is thirty and thirty eight is the

950
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:05.920
murder number we just talked about on
the Fact Hunner podcast yesterday, that extortion

951
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:13.840
seventeen all the soldiers who were killed
who were involved in the bin Laden killing,

952
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:16.800
right, and then the story got
out of control so that they had

953
01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:23.520
all those soldiers killed in August.
There was thirty eight people on board that

954
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.399
plane. Anytime you see the number
thirty eight, you see the number eleven

955
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:29.000
or nineteen, those are the big
three numbers you got to stop. And

956
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:33.199
of course thirty three, right,
there's COVID nineteen. How many hijackers were

957
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:40.840
there nineteen? Right, Yeah,
And all of these numbers are signs that

958
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:45.279
it is a ritual or it is
a hoax, one or the other.

959
01:11:46.119 --> 01:11:48.920
So, yeah, they do these
things by the number. There's a reason

960
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:54.920
they initiated Waco on April nineteenth because
that date is the Feast of Moloch,

961
01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.640
and the same with Waco. There's
dates, there's numbers, and all of

962
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:01.279
those things have meanings hundred percent,
and it does. It's very demontic.

963
01:12:01.319 --> 01:12:06.479
It's it's a satanic. Right.
So my question is I guess all of

964
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:10.159
like, if you take all the
coincidences, you know, nine to eleven

965
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:15.840
Taylor Swift Waco all these coincidences and
put them all into a pot, like,

966
01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.760
do you think that that there's like
a demon or some satan, somebody

967
01:12:19.800 --> 01:12:23.880
controlling these people that are telling them, Hey, you need to be doing

968
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:26.960
this because you know, this is
going to line up with the with the

969
01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:31.319
rest of the coincidences that we've already
laid out. He's liked the chance of

970
01:12:31.359 --> 01:12:34.960
a human just saying, Oh,
I'm gonna make sure that I'm on you

971
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.319
know Taylor shirt, that I'm on
this super Bowl and they're going to win,

972
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:41.199
and I'm gonnadd a whole bunch of
thirteen's in here. Make sure that

973
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:44.560
my flight thirteen hours. Want to
make sure that Travis Kelsey's jersey number is

974
01:12:44.600 --> 01:12:48.119
eighty seven one hundred minus thirteen.
And then you know all these quinticses,

975
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:55.520
How how does a human, a
regular person line all these coincidences up to

976
01:12:55.560 --> 01:12:59.439
where they make sense and like they
all line up perfectly. There's no way.

977
01:12:59.439 --> 01:13:01.479
I don't think it's it's got to
be supernatural, demonic, somebody controlling,

978
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:05.800
satan, controlling the string something.
It is satanic because everyone who is

979
01:13:05.880 --> 01:13:12.960
in the club are in the music
industry, they're in sports, entertainment,

980
01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:16.640
industry, and they know, like
you know, these people are selected.

981
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.680
They know these people can be corrupted. When you put that kind of paycheck

982
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:24.760
in front of people, ninety nine
percent of the people will bend their need

983
01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:29.640
of Satan to get this type of
fame and fortune. There's very little that

984
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:33.800
is organic in our society today,
especially again in the music and entertainment and

985
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:38.239
in politics. You have to be
you have to join the club and bend

986
01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:42.760
the knee and be corrupted in order
to be a part of that particular club.

987
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:45.720
And yeah, there are people at
the very top of the food chain

988
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:53.319
who do I believe, communicate with
Satan, and they do numbers and these

989
01:13:53.439 --> 01:14:00.159
rituals because of what they believe in
Jamatria. And there's a reason they did

990
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.920
that event on nine to eleven because
of the numbers. You know, it's

991
01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:09.600
it's a big deal to them.
And again for someone to think that all

992
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:13.840
these things are just coincidences, like
everything you just laid out, you know,

993
01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.039
it's completely completely wrong. All of
these events. You go to the

994
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:20.880
King Soup shooting that was March twenty
second, three twenty two, not a

995
01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:24.840
coincidence. If you look at that
King Soups, it was store number thirty

996
01:14:24.840 --> 01:14:28.279
three, you know, the Buffalo
House of the King. From what I

997
01:14:28.279 --> 01:14:31.000
heard one of your guys, the
King, the Son and whatever else.

998
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:34.119
Yeah, yeah, the King,
the Son and JAYL told us that.

999
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:38.680
Yeah, yep, yep. So
yeah, they do all this for a

1000
01:14:38.720 --> 01:14:45.640
reason and to the normal person it's
just an event. But none of it

1001
01:14:45.680 --> 01:14:48.119
is. None of it is.
This is all scripted years out in advance.

1002
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:56.479
There you go, yeah, it
really is. I mean really,

1003
01:14:56.479 --> 01:14:58.840
the only option is God at this
point, like there's no way that we

1004
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:04.560
can fight kind of no corruption,
the kind of it takes. So it's

1005
01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:08.000
that's it's got to be supernatural the
way they do it, which means the

1006
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:12.920
only option for survival is supernatural God. Yeah, and you could fight locally.

1007
01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.399
I call my governor every week.
He hates me, and you know,

1008
01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:20.079
we have so much evil going on
here. Between all the abortions,

1009
01:15:20.119 --> 01:15:24.279
we have a gender clinic that you
know, gives children as young as ten

1010
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:30.079
puberty blockers, children as young as
twelve. They'll do the operations and people

1011
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:33.720
just go about their day thinking that
if if they don't look at it,

1012
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:39.600
if they don't pay attention to it, then they're not involved. But the

1013
01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:43.399
thing is, if evil's happening around
you. I believe it's your duty and

1014
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.560
your responsibility as a follow up Jesus
Christ, to stand up to that evil.

1015
01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.920
Oh yeah, more and more it
it needs to be done, It

1016
01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:57.199
needs to be combated. It has
to be there, and it's just not

1017
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:00.239
right. It's pure evil and got
to do something about it. You can't

1018
01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.760
just stand by and watch. Yeah. By the way, cern is more

1019
01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:08.279
that they make it sound like it
is a supernatural which it may have some

1020
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:11.520
type of that, but that's where
I believe that's where they control the Internet.

1021
01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:14.439
Like, yeah, on April the
eighth, if they want to make

1022
01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:17.399
us feel like, you know,
something supernatural is going on, they could

1023
01:16:17.439 --> 01:16:20.000
just throw the switch. I think
they could just throw the switch on the

1024
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:25.359
entire United States of America. If
that's part of the plan. I fully

1025
01:16:25.399 --> 01:16:28.439
believe they can. They can do. Yeah, for sure, they can.

1026
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.399
They can control our feelings. They
can control because everything. As far

1027
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:34.039
as i'm I'm I don't know too
too much about this topic, but it

1028
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:36.439
makes a lot of sense. You
know, energy in the world, and

1029
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:44.239
everything's got a vibration, and everything's
got you know, something going on at

1030
01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:48.520
a deeper cellular atomic level, and
if you, if you can change that,

1031
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.279
you know, if you, if
you, if you talk nice to

1032
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:56.880
water, it's supposed to hydrate you
more. And that's proven the Rice experiment.

1033
01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:00.159
Yeah, that's also proven the dual
slot you know, the dual slit

1034
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:05.880
experiment. That one also is very
weird. So there's something, there's something

1035
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:11.800
to it. There's definitely something to
our energies and something something else going on.

1036
01:17:11.880 --> 01:17:14.239
And if there's something to it,
then it can be controlled, I

1037
01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:20.359
believe, yes, indeed, And
if you guys are into research and things,

1038
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:26.640
I know we've talked about that on
a previous podcast with the Rice experiment,

1039
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:30.000
we dropped a YouTube video in there. But also the sern is quite

1040
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:32.479
a deep dive. If you look
at the guy who claims to have you

1041
01:17:32.520 --> 01:17:36.960
know that the big joke is Al
Gore created the Internet, but the truth

1042
01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:41.640
is a guy named Tim berners Lee
who is a guy from the UK.

1043
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:46.319
He created it in nineteen eighty nine
when he was working at CERN. CERN

1044
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:53.560
has been around for a long long
time. Right, maybe something with a

1045
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:59.720
particle acceleration yep, and that is
supposed to disrupt our natural world in some

1046
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:03.119
way. Yeah, and listen,
you know, if you actually look at

1047
01:18:03.119 --> 01:18:05.880
the side effects. You know,
when COVID first started, I got all

1048
01:18:05.960 --> 01:18:11.000
kinds of emails from listeners saying that
this was actually five G. And if

1049
01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:15.920
you go to Google and put in
you know, symptoms of COVID and then

1050
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:25.279
you put symptoms of radiation illness,
they're very, very similar. Yeah,

1051
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:29.720
it really that, it does make
sense. I mean, I got COVID

1052
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:33.439
once. I think it was COVID. I never really got tested, but

1053
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:36.960
I lost my taste and that was
about it. But apart from that,

1054
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:41.199
I just kind of felt like,
felt like crap. It wasn't too too

1055
01:18:41.239 --> 01:18:45.600
bad. But that's you know,
like you said, it's is it covid,

1056
01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:47.479
is it five G? Is it
the vapes? You know? And

1057
01:18:47.479 --> 01:18:53.079
nobody knows. My brother just got
back from well back in COVID was was

1058
01:18:53.319 --> 01:18:59.159
about to be kicked off fully in
in America. He was in I think,

1059
01:18:59.199 --> 01:19:01.119
I think Korea. He was in
Korea, and he said, all

1060
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:05.720
the soldiers they all got sick,
everybody, they all got sick with COVID

1061
01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:09.720
symptoms. And then they came back
to the States after they were done their

1062
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:15.079
deployment, and at that point COVID
popped off. My brother was like,

1063
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.680
hmm, this is weird. You
know, we were all sick with these

1064
01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.680
exact same semm. I think we
all had COVID. Apparently in South Korea.

1065
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:29.880
What year was that COVID came up? What twenty twenty? Yeah,

1066
01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:33.119
oh so okay at the same time. Yeah, like he had just came

1067
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:35.640
back from he must have been the
twenty nineteen then, I guess just like

1068
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.920
a year before COVID really became prevalent
in the United States, right right,

1069
01:19:39.960 --> 01:19:45.920
I agree. I put out a
COVID origins video and in the summer they

1070
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.479
blamed it on vapes. In the
early spring, they blamed it on those

1071
01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:55.119
all kinds of illnesses running wild around
Fort Dietrich, Maryland. And they had

1072
01:19:55.159 --> 01:20:00.079
the highest reports of flu cases the
September of twenty nineteen than they have ever

1073
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:04.359
had before. And it's always China, right, I always say, there's

1074
01:20:04.359 --> 01:20:08.079
not a thing that goes on in
this world that doesn't go through here.

1075
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.399
Yeah, I mean, we're the
you know, we're the I guess testing

1076
01:20:12.439 --> 01:20:15.800
grounds, since we just believe everything
as a country. Oh yeah, well,

1077
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:19.680
the CIA controls everything, whether it's
Darpus, CIA or the NIH or

1078
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:27.239
Fort te Trick Maryland. We did
a podcast a while ago on what's the

1079
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.560
name of the thing with the tick
bite lime disease and the Plum Island up

1080
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.920
there in New York. And by
the way, they moved Plumb Island to

1081
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:40.359
the middle of the country last year. So they used to do this testing

1082
01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:45.119
animal testing, you know, on
this island in the Atlantic Ocean that was

1083
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:47.960
at least kind of away from the
country. Now they dropped it in like

1084
01:20:48.039 --> 01:20:54.560
Manhattan, Kansas, just dead in
the middle of the country. Crazy not

1085
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:59.199
to have you know, it's not
the range is there. So now they're

1086
01:20:59.199 --> 01:21:02.199
going to get everybody's And it's interesting
because this past fall there was an illness

1087
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:06.279
from rampant through that area in Kansas. But I'm sure it was just a

1088
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:11.560
coincidence. Just wild to me.
I don't how do people not see this?

1089
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:14.399
How do people not see And that's
what I'm saying when I say like

1090
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:17.920
to make better decisions, because it's
it's truly is literally everywhere. If you

1091
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:21.239
don't if you don't know these conspiracies, like what happens. If I didn't

1092
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:27.800
know that the COVID vaccine was just
not it, I would have it and

1093
01:21:27.840 --> 01:21:31.119
then now I would be, you
know, potentially an infertile or get sick

1094
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.720
and I have a random heart attack
like all these people are having, and

1095
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:40.000
all because I didn't know. And
that's that's my main reason why I'm so

1096
01:21:40.039 --> 01:21:43.000
into these conspiracies, because I don't
believe they're conspiracies. I believe that that

1097
01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:45.680
they actually happened. And how mulos
to protect myself? Once you know the

1098
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:51.520
mark the beast comes out, and
you know, the Bible says that deception

1099
01:21:51.800 --> 01:21:55.279
in the end time is going to
be the greatest it has ever been,

1100
01:21:55.319 --> 01:21:58.960
and it's going to fool everybody basically, And the only way you're going to

1101
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.399
be able to know is if you
follow God and you know the Word and

1102
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:05.199
you know you know the Bible.
So that's the only way to protect myself

1103
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:09.960
is to learn these things and recognize
theception when it is deception, and be

1104
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:13.800
able to make my decisions the best
I can based off that knowledge. That's

1105
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:15.800
right, And I think it sounds
one eighteen eight that says put your trust

1106
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:20.000
in God, not in man,
And that's what we do inherently as people.

1107
01:22:20.119 --> 01:22:24.000
You know, something happens and we
look to the guy with the PhD

1108
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:30.479
or the white lab coat because humans
are flawed, they're imperfect, they're selfish,

1109
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:35.279
they're greedy, and right, they
have a tendency to engage in behaviors

1110
01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:42.720
that are harmful to people. And
we've seen that over and over again.

1111
01:22:42.840 --> 01:22:45.640
Yet we still have this group of
people, these block of people that fully

1112
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:51.920
trust this government, which baffles my
mind. I just can't. I don't

1113
01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:58.000
know if it's just you know,
cog, you know, it's just their

1114
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:01.000
choice, blissful ignorance. I guess
they would call it right that they are

1115
01:23:01.119 --> 01:23:05.439
just more concerned about their daily activities
than but listen, at some point,

1116
01:23:06.079 --> 01:23:10.239
they're going to come cast that check
that we've been writing for the last however

1117
01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.199
many years, and things are going
to be very rough for a lot of

1118
01:23:13.239 --> 01:23:16.239
people. And you know, if
you wish that on your children and grandchildren,

1119
01:23:16.279 --> 01:23:20.239
then that that's tough. I'd rather
face the music now and get it

1120
01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:25.600
over with and start the rebuilding process
than have this thing go off ten to

1121
01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:28.479
fifteen years down, you know,
ten or fifteen years down the road.

1122
01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:31.760
And these younger folks have to deal
with it, right, and it's only

1123
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:35.319
getting worse. And I've seen it
even in my you know, since like

1124
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:40.199
I guess, age like sixteen,
from sixteen to twenty seven, I've noticed

1125
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:42.600
every year it's more and more.
Every year, it's more and more and

1126
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:47.199
more and more. Pretty soon,
there's like it's just you know, what's

1127
01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:49.880
it called foot it's the foot in
the door technique. You know, you

1128
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.039
start with something small and just start
building building, asking for more and more

1129
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:56.319
and more, and it's, oh, you allowed that to go through.

1130
01:23:56.359 --> 01:23:59.039
So it's not it's not that much
worse like relacts, just go ahead and

1131
01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:01.680
let it, and then here we
are. You know, we're about to

1132
01:24:03.079 --> 01:24:08.560
approve just you know, transgenders on
thirteen year old girls and whatever else.

1133
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:13.399
Even when it specifically says in the
Bible that mutilation of the of of children

1134
01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:20.239
is the evilest sin. That's just
it's insane we're allowing that. And I

1135
01:24:20.239 --> 01:24:24.199
think that at about ten years or
if the world's not if the you know,

1136
01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:29.840
the rapture doesn't happen by then,
I think we're gonna start allowing some

1137
01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:35.039
truly truly heinous things like the uh, the boy Love petition group for the

1138
01:24:35.039 --> 01:24:40.079
government. How they're trying to push
that to make it legal. Yeah,

1139
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.960
well yeah, it's like the underage
Holy there's no way we get to that,

1140
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:46.600
right. But also like, look, you know, we didn't think

1141
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:49.239
we would allow gay marriage. Way
back when we didn't allow that, we

1142
01:24:49.279 --> 01:24:54.159
would you know, we just started
doing you know, the transitions on children.

1143
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:58.520
Deep do you think we're gonna stuff
like that? It's becoming more and

1144
01:24:58.600 --> 01:25:01.800
more prevalent. So the longer we
go and the more and the more we

1145
01:25:01.840 --> 01:25:05.720
allow, the more we will start
to allow until we're just truly a point

1146
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:10.079
of no return. Yep, I
couldn't agree more that they could. It's

1147
01:25:10.119 --> 01:25:15.159
boiling the frog. They normalize one
thing, that they'll go one step forward,

1148
01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:18.680
two steps back, but that they
always come back. And it's just

1149
01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:23.960
the normalize it a little bit at
the time. And you're right, I'm

1150
01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:26.479
petrified to see what the world's going
to look like ten years from now.

1151
01:25:26.960 --> 01:25:30.960
It's just you look where you're at
today, and there's a lot of beauty,

1152
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:33.720
a lot of good things, and
you know, you can't dwell twenty

1153
01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:35.920
four to seven on these things.
But at the same time, you can't

1154
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:41.520
turn a blind eye to these evils
either, right, And like you said,

1155
01:25:41.560 --> 01:25:44.279
they tell us and everything too,
and it's you have to be able

1156
01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:48.359
to know these things in order to
to uh make the correct decision like all

1157
01:25:48.359 --> 01:25:53.640
these you know, like you said
in the movie, the Barack Obama movie

1158
01:25:53.800 --> 01:25:57.039
Leave the World Behind. Yeah,
yeah, that it literally tells you,

1159
01:25:57.479 --> 01:26:01.359
It tells you everything right there.
Yeah, so much symbolism in that movie,

1160
01:26:01.359 --> 01:26:08.159
from the checkered floors to the NASA
to just one thing to the racial

1161
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:12.640
divisiveness that it was a complete mockery
the whole show. And it was a

1162
01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.319
bad movie to boot right. I
mean, how are you going to know

1163
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:18.920
what you're looking at if you don't
know what to look for? And that's

1164
01:26:18.920 --> 01:26:23.840
why, I you know, it
really is crazy to see all these evil

1165
01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:27.079
things that are happening, even just
in regular movies are supposed to be you

1166
01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:30.119
know, good. You might see
a number and you start to think,

1167
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:34.239
oh boy, what else is going
to be here? Yeah, you watch

1168
01:26:34.279 --> 01:26:40.319
something simple light Seinfeld, start paying
attention to the building numbers and all those

1169
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:45.319
type of things. It's in every
show that, I mean, everything is

1170
01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:47.199
created for a reason, and it's
to get us to think a certain way,

1171
01:26:47.800 --> 01:26:51.399
and it's to keep us in a
matrix that keeps us busy, keeps

1172
01:26:51.479 --> 01:26:57.520
us working and not paying attention to
the important things, and keep us most

1173
01:26:57.520 --> 01:27:02.039
importantly fighting between ourselves. So it
keeps the attention away from the people who,

1174
01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:06.199
like I said, are causing all
of this misery. We fit the

1175
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:10.239
ninety minute mark, so again I
want to thank you so much for joining

1176
01:27:10.279 --> 01:27:13.800
us. It's been a great conversation. But before we leave, I certainly

1177
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:17.520
want to give you the last word. Uh yeah, no problem. Yeah,

1178
01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:21.319
it was a great conversation. I
had a lot of fun. Last

1179
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:25.880
word pretty much, w be just
keep your eyes open and you know,

1180
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.079
be aware of what is coming around
you and what's about to happen, because

1181
01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:32.479
that's the best way you can make
your decisions and protect yourself and your family

1182
01:27:32.520 --> 01:27:36.479
and everything that you care about.
That's the best way is to know what

1183
01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:41.680
the true plan is. That's pretty
much it. Thanks for having me,

1184
01:27:41.680 --> 01:27:44.840
George. Yeah, and again it
was a pleasure to have you all the

1185
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.920
best down there in Florida. And
we'll have Noah's email address in the show

1186
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:53.279
notes if you would like to reach
out to them. As well as everything

1187
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.279
we talk about, we'll have some
links for you to do some further investigation.

1188
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:01.039
And thank you for your continued support
of this podcast. For Noah,

1189
01:28:01.119 --> 01:28:04.199
I'm George, God bless you all. Everybody. Have a great weekend.

1190
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:06.760
Until we meet again, my friends, keep your head on a swivel,

1191
01:28:08.039 --> 01:28:17.199
and we will see it. I
know it's been a struggle. I know

1192
01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:29.640
you've had spain. I don't feel
tied hell down all the way? Yeah,

1193
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:39.439
I don't you feeling all you smile
ain't the same I saw were gone

1194
01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:47.279
from here. I feel like you've
lost your way. Don't give up,

1195
01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:54.720
No, don't give in. Never
is home. Don't make all the primise.

1196
01:28:55.399 --> 01:28:59.720
He ain't dumb yet, he's gone. I plan why that's away?

1197
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:16.880
God up? Let me come?
What wait? God recor. I can

1198
01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:25.560
see the street beside you. Childs
are putting up the five. Oh,

1199
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:30.439
you're stronger than anything you are.
Yeah, you're gonna be all right.

1200
01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:42.399
You're accepting a dead valued beautiful.
You're shoving ride. Yeah, you're living,

1201
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:51.319
breathing, move you can hold your
head a pie. Don't give up,

1202
01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:57.760
No, don't give in. Nevertheless
home. Don't they gone on the

1203
01:29:57.920 --> 01:30:04.159
primise? It ain't dounion this Goda
clay. Why's some raintail? The god

1204
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:10.000
of memory? Come, don't give
up, No, don't give in.

1205
01:30:11.079 --> 01:30:15.760
You never lose home. Don't let
call the privince. It ain't con like

1206
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:27.039
it's worth living. What's a paintail? The god of bavy cold? Why

1207
01:30:27.319 --> 01:30:35.319
surprase, the God TV Cold.
Oh yeah, what sur pray now,

1208
01:30:35.560 --> 01:30:48.600
the God of Timmy Cord, Oh
yeah, gott TV Cold. Oh,

1209
01:30:55.359 --> 01:31:00.560
don't give up, No, don't
give in, So do they goal of

1210
01:31:00.760 --> 01:31:11.640
the primise Mandys got a playing waits
the god of if it comes and don't

1211
01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:16.720
give up, no dog giving never
the soul, don't let go of the

1212
01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:27.560
primis getting done, Lover is worth
living Watson and the God of very Coors,

1213
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:42.119
Oh, the God of need cos
Whitsune, the God of a.

1214
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:57.119
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