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Let's move 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:51,599 on to some deep, deep Boston Celtics talk with Alex Kungu. Alex, 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,120 thank you so much for coming back on to the Hardware Knox podcast to talk 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,359 with me about some Boston Celtics First and foremost though, how the are you? 31 00:02:00,599 --> 00:02:05,400 Man? I'm doing well. I just came from Seattle, Pacific Northwest. 32 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,960 I fished for some salmon living. I'm living their off season life. 33 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,759 So but I'm definitely ready to get get things back in gear. I'm starting 34 00:02:13,759 --> 00:02:15,960 to get that back, that NBA itch back now, so ready to get 35 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:21,159 it. Are you moving to Seattle to get them to bring back the Sonics 36 00:02:21,199 --> 00:02:25,199 or what's the story on that? Maybe maybe maybe you know, we'll see 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,680 because you know when the super side has come back and it's gonna be great 38 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:35,960 that that city's been pastic But I think that's a different podcast it indeed it 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,680 is. So I'll start with this and then I want to recap their off 40 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,960 season. But I'm just wondering what your general thoughts, feelings, impressions, 41 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,759 whatever about the off season actually was for them. Was there anything that stands 42 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,439 out or caught off guard or that you just you know, you come out 43 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:53,520 of the off season one specific thing or addition or move or non move that 44 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,360 you find yourself thinking about. Man, I think for the Celtics, the 45 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,280 question is what didn't catch you off guard? You know, like I mean 46 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:04,479 like for some of for I know for some reporters. You know, though 47 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,960 the talks about Danny Age potentially stepping down where you know they were coming. 48 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,479 But from my point of view, I didn't know. It was like this 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,319 season, I didn't know Brad I didn't know Bradson was gonna be the president 50 00:03:15,319 --> 00:03:19,639 of Battel Operations. And the way the way those moves happened so quick, 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,960 it was like that that's been a plan for at least a few months for 52 00:03:23,039 --> 00:03:27,919 them. So going out from there, the front office was surprised to me, 53 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,919 the coaching staff just you know, the changes that they made. I 54 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,599 was really happy about it, not just in terms of the diversity higher which 55 00:03:36,599 --> 00:03:39,280 has been a big butch for NBA players this year, but just more so 56 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,840 that this that the team is listening to their players because from what from what 57 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:49,400 I understand, you know, Tatum, Smart, Jalen, all of those 58 00:03:49,439 --> 00:03:53,360 guys are really pushing for more diverse hires, and not not all, not 59 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:57,919 all, not all organizations take their players words and apply them so quickly. 60 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,919 So I was I was happy to see that the coach was the coach was 61 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:08,240 kind of a surprise to me. I thought Emay was the best guy for 62 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,919 the job, but I didn't know if being in Boston, would you know, 63 00:04:12,039 --> 00:04:15,520 mean that they would maybe look for a bigger name. I thought, 64 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,959 maybe like a guy like Chauncey what it would it would maybe have gotten more 65 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:24,600 played just because he was a former Celtic. I believe he's family with Jason 66 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,519 in some type of way. So it looked like maybe that they would have 67 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,120 gone that route. But I'm happy. I'm happy then they ended up with 68 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Emay. It's actually funny just to do a quick side note watching how Portland's 69 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,160 fans have just been so upset about their coaching staff and the Celtics just got 70 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,399 a Portland native coach who's now bringing in a coaching staff of just all Portland 71 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:48,160 natives, and I and I just keep thinking like how different would the Trouble's 72 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:53,399 offseason be to their fans if they just hired Emay instead of Chance. But 73 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,079 you know, maybe maybe when you're Portland guests comes on, he can talk 74 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,959 about that. But long story trying. I mean, everything surprised me, 75 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:02,279 and mostly a good way, mostly a good way. I'm sure we'll talk 76 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:06,120 about some things I'm a little bit more skeptible about, but the overall direction 77 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,959 of the team, I was very I was very happy to see. Yeah, 78 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,879 and look, you mentioned Chauncey. Imagine what the raction would have been 79 00:05:13,879 --> 00:05:15,839 had Chauncy been hired in Boston and then all of a sudden, that's like 80 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:20,360 Brad Stevens's first or second big decision, whatever it is, and so had 81 00:05:20,399 --> 00:05:24,600 that been flip flopped. I liked the choice that they made with Emydoka, 82 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,959 and I stand by, Look, if you're not listening to Jaylen Brown as 83 00:05:27,959 --> 00:05:31,240 an organization, you're probably doing something wrong just because he's just one of the 84 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,600 overall smartest players in the league, like Encourt off the court. So it 85 00:05:34,639 --> 00:05:39,759 was cool to see that they loose took his leanings and like you said, 86 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:45,439 Jason tatums and players into account. Emydoka has been pretty open about how much 87 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:49,199 he wants to see sort of his two incumbent guys, starting with Jason Tatum, 88 00:05:49,319 --> 00:05:54,639 elevate their playmaking. And I do think after moving on from Fournier, 89 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,600 after moving Kemba Walker, even though you get Dennis Shrewd, they're still sort 90 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:00,560 of built in a way where they're gonna need lean on Jayson Tatum even more 91 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,439 to set up the offense to be there their floor general for stretches and I'm 92 00:06:05,519 --> 00:06:10,360 just wondering based off what you know, he's all very made strides there. 93 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,439 I think last season we saw him make some more complicated passes and reads. 94 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,600 But based on what you've seen there, do you think he has another gear 95 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,879 there and would that be sort of the final front tier that separates him between 96 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:26,000 he's a superstar now, but there's still that MVP click just in front of 97 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,040 him. Yeah. So, I mean, the playmaking stuff is always hard 98 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,079 because a lot of like it's not it's not something that's guaranteed, you know 99 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,319 what I mean, Like you can get better as a playmaker, but there's 100 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,439 I could see him getting better as a playmaker and its not necessarily coming out 101 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,879 and assist and in that way as well. And what I mean by that 102 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:50,079 is you've watched Jason Tatum's passing development. I think it really really started and 103 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,079 when he had his first hot street I'm only two years ago in February, 104 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,040 when he started becoming unguardable off the catch, shoot three pointers and things like 105 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:01,120 that, because that was the first time defense and started really adjusting to him 106 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,600 at the number one. And what you saw was like he really really learned 107 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,519 stuff very quick, Like he learned how to make reads really quick. So 108 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,319 when they learned so when they first started double teaming him, and I almost 109 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,959 remembered this thinking the game where that happened against Utah specifically, he struggled a 110 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,000 lot. He didn't necessarily know where the play was going. He picked up 111 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:24,920 his dribble way too fast and it just ended up looking crazy. But within 112 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:29,040 a couple of weeks he was able to beat that. Then then what happened 113 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,120 is in the bubble he started seeing his zone a lot of his own defenses. 114 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,199 Toronto killed him with it, and so at a Miami with his own 115 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,680 defense and made him think so much that he really couldn't He really didn't know 116 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,800 what to do with the ball, and it kind of stif stifled his aggressiveness. 117 00:07:43,839 --> 00:07:46,519 But by the next season, last season I'm speaking of now, he 118 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,680 seemed to be able to handle his own defenses and stuff like that. So 119 00:07:48,759 --> 00:07:54,040 that leaves the last step I think to me is not just now the ability 120 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,360 to like read and react, but the ability to not anticipate and dictate defenders. 121 00:07:59,399 --> 00:08:03,959 So one thing that have the perfect the perfect person to look at Luca 122 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,600 done. For example, when you watch Luka don gets go and even even 123 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,720 simple cross court passes. The reason why he's able to get them so quick 124 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,720 and hit people and they're so open all the time is because he's making the 125 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:22,079 pass before the defender even is making the defensive adjustment, you know what I 126 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,079 mean, Like they're they're still in, they're still in help while he's passing 127 00:08:26,079 --> 00:08:30,279 it to the corner, for example. So that's that level of anticipation and 128 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,799 knowing what's going to happen before the play and doing it. That's a really 129 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:35,320 hard stuff to me. I don't know if I don't know if they'll makes 130 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,120 that stuff, to be honest, because that's really really hard, and I 131 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:43,440 don't there's not a big level of evidence of guys who aren't natural born passers 132 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,759 making that leap. But just looking at some of the stuff, the progressions 133 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,440 he's made now, considering some of his history of being a guy that was 134 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,600 a point guard in high school and stuff like that, it's impossible, yes, 135 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,840 But could he make it to that degree? Like is he ever gonna 136 00:09:00,879 --> 00:09:03,039 be a seven eight ass this guy average game? I don't think so. 137 00:09:03,399 --> 00:09:05,399 But I also don't think he needs to because I think he's the guy that 138 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:09,480 can legitimate average thirty at the same time. So to answer your question, 139 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,120 I do think he can make a leap, but I think his leap is 140 00:09:13,159 --> 00:09:20,559 not His leap is not elite playmaker. I think his his his his conference 141 00:09:20,639 --> 00:09:24,480 zone is going to be like five five six as to the game right there, 142 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,360 And I think if that's the leap we're talking about, that that's possible. 143 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,480 I saw. Joka also sort of mentioned the importance of Jalen Brown stepping 144 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:37,080 up as a playmaker and speaking of people who aren't natural born passers, have 145 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,960 you really seen anything to suggest that he has that dimension to his kid? 146 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:45,080 Jann Brown's a fantastic player. I just never looked at him after all these 147 00:09:45,159 --> 00:09:48,720 years and thought, this is someone who can do what, let's say, 148 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,240 what Jason Tatum was doing before this past season. Yeah, yeah, and 149 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,039 I mean Jake and I'm I'm really happy you brought those up as two separate 150 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:01,080 things, because sometimes the people talk about the Jay's like one thing, and 151 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:07,279 they have very different developmental paths. So so with Jalen last year, there 152 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,840 was a really very interesting kind of diversion in his passing. Early in the 153 00:10:11,879 --> 00:10:15,279 year, he played a lot out of like the mid post, and that 154 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,360 was where you know, and he's making a lot of highlights. He had 155 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,080 his little tea bag bag going on. But one thing he was also able 156 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,360 to do is he was able to make a lot of passes. He saw 157 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,840 the floor better. He became like one of Rob's like like top lob thrive 158 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,360 guys. And then later in the year, when he started becoming very apparent 159 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:37,279 that we weren't that the Celtics weren't getting three point shooting from other places, 160 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,200 they asked him to up his three point shooting. What we saw was him 161 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,639 taking like a lot of three point shooting, but it became a lot less 162 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:48,279 of like him holding the ball and making decisions, and it became more of 163 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,240 him just kind of shooting, like kind of just letting it fly. So 164 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:56,080 his playmaking dick because he was playing a very specific role. Now the question 165 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:58,919 is going to become now like okay, can you get the ball to the 166 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:03,120 top of the key, him off a pig, make defenses collapse and kick 167 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:07,879 out the opensuters. Jayalen is actually more Jalen is actually more equipped to do 168 00:11:07,919 --> 00:11:11,720 that than Tatum is because he's more athletic, he's bigger, he's stronger, 169 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:15,039 he can get to rim much better. And finish better. So actually, 170 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,559 like he can he can at least do the collapsing, like get guys to 171 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,080 collapse and kick it out. Will he Will he ever do the anticipating? 172 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,879 Will he ever do like the manipulation? I don't think so. I don't 173 00:11:24,919 --> 00:11:28,279 think that's in the cards for Jaalen. But he's he's he's he's put a 174 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:31,519 lot of us wrong. So maybe, but I think what he may make 175 00:11:31,639 --> 00:11:35,960 might be looking for if he's thinking about it more realistically, it's just Jaalen 176 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:41,159 being more consistent with the driving kids, because you can't necessarily expect him to 177 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,039 learn how to make like these complicated reads. But if you're just telling him, 178 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,039 hey, man, when he gets to the rim and the defensive collapse, 179 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:50,879 you're gonna have guys here and here, get used to seeing guys going 180 00:11:50,919 --> 00:11:54,879 here and here, and you kind of drow that into him over the course 181 00:11:54,919 --> 00:11:56,840 of time. Now it's actually now that he's gotten usage, which is the 182 00:11:56,879 --> 00:12:01,320 thing that people forget, like these young guy needs to actually see a lot 183 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,120 of looks and make a lot of mistakes before they get used to it, 184 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,840 because what's really developing is just experience, you know. So I think for 185 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Jalen he can become a guy that can drive and kick more. He could, 186 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,960 He could become a guy guy I think, to do a little bit 187 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,559 more as a as a low threat, not just odd the midpost, but 188 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:22,240 from the three point line as well because of his first step. But like 189 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:26,720 but like, but like Katum, I don't think the upper echelons of elite 190 00:12:26,759 --> 00:12:31,279 claiming and are in their cards. But I think if they can just you 191 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:35,799 know, be good playmakers, right, the type of playmakers that at least 192 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,960 can help help get their teams involved, the guys that aren't necessarily being black 193 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,320 holes like they were at times last year, I think that'd be huge. 194 00:12:43,759 --> 00:12:46,840 So yeah, and to your point, if they try and like slow Jalon 195 00:12:46,919 --> 00:12:50,360 Brown down to like take away his North South jet fuel in trying to have 196 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,039 him, like you to manipulate the defense, that would definitely be a mistake. 197 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,000 And he didn't prove. I wrote about this at some point in the 198 00:12:58,039 --> 00:13:01,759 season where it felt like his drives were less addictable when you looked at the 199 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,159 volume of his passing and even his assist percentage on them. And so as 200 00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:07,080 long as they surround him with guys who can hit those kickouts, it does 201 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,279 seem like he is more willing to make them. That being said, that 202 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:13,759 is not a distinction that I really made when I saw Ammadoca's comments. So 203 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:18,039 the way you framed it really helped me envision like the best possible Jaylon Brown 204 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:24,080 scenario in that regard. Yeah, yeah, it's it's gonna be really interesting. 205 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,320 I'm really interesting to see also how how Smart plays a part into that, 206 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,399 because it looks like he's going to be the starting point guard. Two. 207 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Yeah, I guess that's do ultimate. Well, let me start here. 208 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:37,200 They're two biggest offsible I guess not even their two biggest. But how 209 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,440 do you like the fits of Shruder and Josh Richardson. I know Shuder is 210 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,960 build a zero risk, and he really is, but they all of a 211 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,519 sudden't have this guy who's now playing for his next contract that they're definitely not 212 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:52,600 going to resign unless something goes incredibly wrong, And so I'm wondering how that 213 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,600 sort of factors in what they're doing. And the I didn't have an issue 214 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,360 with the Josh Richardson extension. It was just such a whatever number to me. 215 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,080 But there's also the I've held out hope for Josh Redinson since he left 216 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,639 Miami, and that's like two straight seasons of being disappointed. So I was 217 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:13,440 just curious about your thoughts and optimism around their fits with this roster. Yeah, 218 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,519 so weirdly, I'm kind of a little bit more optimistic on Shruder just 219 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,279 because I kind of see I see a clear path where they kind of let 220 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,559 him be like what Gore and Droughtic goes for Miami, Like you just kind 221 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:26,159 of let him be the second unit maybe depending on how the starting units go, 222 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:30,960 maybe maybe you just play him with al off the bench and throughout the 223 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,320 regular season, you can win a lot of games with Shrewder and Horford being 224 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,519 the leaders of your second unit. So I can see I could see them 225 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:39,519 too, kind of like playing off each other doing well. I don't I 226 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,039 don't know or think Shruder will close games though, with injuries and stuff like 227 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:48,200 that, that's a possibility. But yeah, Like the Josh Innson thing is 228 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,559 the thing that I'm kind of iffy on because I see what I've seen what 229 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,159 everyone else sees. The it seems like three point shooting has been like a 230 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,000 really swing skill for him in the last couple of years that hasn't necessarily come 231 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:05,279 true. I'm not necessarily a believer that changing uniforms necessarily changes your talent level 232 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,360 at all. So I don't know like what the Celtics expect from that going 233 00:15:09,399 --> 00:15:11,399 forward, but I do know he may. He may had a relationship with 234 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,759 him, a pretty good one, and he's you know, I think he 235 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,519 was one of the guys pushing to bring him into Boston as well. So 236 00:15:18,879 --> 00:15:22,440 I know, at least from from a defensive standpoint of, you know, 237 00:15:22,559 --> 00:15:26,600 a ninety four feet guy, a potential guy that you know can can help 238 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:30,200 you when you start thinking about who's gonna defend, like the Kyrie Irvings and 239 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:33,039 kind of Lowrys and stuff like that, that's a guy you think about. 240 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:37,600 But the big thing for them is going to be offensive because if your if 241 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,559 your team is built around Jason and Jalen, the complimentary guys have to be 242 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,440 guys that can space the floor. And johh Orgerson has a fit defensively, 243 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,600 but if he's not able to shoot, or if he's very streaky, it's 244 00:15:50,639 --> 00:15:54,559 gonna call live thing in the question. He might you know, it could 245 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,879 think those outs really quick in a way where I think because of Dennis's playmaking 246 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:03,279 but handling ability to kind of, like, you know, run an offense. 247 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,840 I don't think his value inges on one skill the way I think Josh 248 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:14,080 Josh has does. So it's it's it's it's. But with that being said, 249 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,360 though, I am much more happier with the with the with the role 250 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:22,559 players overall, because the suffix played some guys that I'm happier not one of 251 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,440 the UniFormat Well, we'll just keep it at that. So do you think 252 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:32,279 they ultimately have enough playmaking or do you think, you know, is this 253 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,840 the I guess who's gonna be sort of most impacted aside from Jason Tatum and 254 00:16:36,879 --> 00:16:40,919 Jalen Brown from this current pecking order. You mentioned Smart being a starting point 255 00:16:40,919 --> 00:16:42,080 guard, and so are they going to ask him to do like more floor 256 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,679 general type stuff than they normally do. Maybe we see, you know, 257 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:51,360 a lot of a lot more of Peyton Pritchard this season. I'm just curious 258 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,440 how the pecking order is sort of impacted by the moves that they've made. 259 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,840 Yeah, I think, I think, I think, without question, I 260 00:16:57,879 --> 00:17:03,200 would say there's two guys, but I'll start with one. Marcus. Marcus 261 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:06,559 is a market is gonna surprise a lot of people with how good a playmaker 262 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:10,440 he is. I generally think he's been the best playmaker on the team, 263 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,160 but I think mentally mentally, mentally wise, he's just been very like driven 264 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:21,359 on proving that he's a score And I think that got exacerbated more with Stevens 265 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,039 as he was moved off ball because Souths have had a lot of all star 266 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,880 caliber point guards the position, and that's less Marcus Martin kind of being like 267 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,240 the guy that covers with him on defense but then does secondary playmaking. But 268 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,079 the secondary playmaking is not enough to be necessarily known as a playmaker. So 269 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,440 it kind of becomes where his role has kind of been about, you know, 270 00:17:41,519 --> 00:17:44,759 floor's facing a little bit and he's taking that a little bit too happily. 271 00:17:45,319 --> 00:17:48,079 And I think now, and I think now as like just a guy 272 00:17:48,279 --> 00:17:51,079 was like, look, you're responsible for running the offense, right, You're 273 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,839 responsible for making sure all these dads get their shots. You need to know 274 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,880 how these guys like their shots, where they're at. He's be responsible for 275 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,640 calling out the place, knowing all that stuff on both sense, right, 276 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,799 And I think that that's going to weirdly kind of concentrate him in a way 277 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:07,240 where we can just kind of maximize the best parts of him, which offensively, 278 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:12,279 I think his playmaking is actually his greatest tool by a pretty wide margin. 279 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,000 He's able to do a lot of the stuff that I'm talking about, 280 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,079 things that Tatum and Jalen will need to kind of show. He can do 281 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,839 a lot of those things. He doesn't have the scoring threat that creates some 282 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,640 of the passing lanes that make it a little bit easier for the Jason do, 283 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:33,559 but he does have like the IQ and the field where he can be 284 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:38,960 able to manipulate defenses in a way where I think will surprise people. The 285 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,960 other guy, I think that's gonna get a really high Another guy who I 286 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,200 think is really going to benefit a lot from this kind of new reshuffling is 287 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,400 is Rob Williams, who I think he showed himself to be a little bit 288 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,839 of a passer, right. I think some of that stuff is overblown a 289 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,839 little bit. I hope some kids don't tell me for that, But I 290 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,519 mean, like he's he's still more of a secondary pastor He's not on like 291 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,160 a Yokis trail or something like that. He's basically made he made the jump 292 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:11,640 before Jared Allen made the jump of like he can pass on those like shorter 293 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:17,839 roles or just as he's moving downhill exactly exactly like exactly. So I think 294 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:22,160 there he showed some stuff. And I think I think with the way that 295 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,680 the way the team is to kind of like set up now, depending on 296 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720 how they go to the starters, like he's gonna have a chance, you 297 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:32,200 know, to show himself to be like a very high level, key starting 298 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,559 caliber center. And he compliments that Jay's wall. They love throwing him laws 299 00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:41,640 as everyone on the team. Defensive wise, he's gonna be their backline communicator 300 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:45,279 there, you know, kind of their insurance. He gets a little jumpy 301 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,599 went with shot locking because he because you know, he can jump a lot. 302 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,200 He's kind of rilled in some of that. But pick and roll when 303 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,880 he's defending a guy like a legit shooter, that's still kind of been an 304 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,279 issue. And I'm gonna be really interested to see if this coaching staff can 305 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,640 kind of kind of help him get over that last hurdle because I kind of 306 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,400 think interior wise, he's become much more patient as a shop blocker, but 307 00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:11,200 on the perimeter he still jumps a lot for everyone except for James Harden for 308 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,519 whatever reason, I think James Harden, he's he's just learned how to not 309 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,640 jump for James Harden, but everybody else he's still he still tries to leap 310 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,119 over them. So I don't get that. But I do think Rob is 311 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,559 going to be someone that if he can stay on the floor, stay healthy, 312 00:20:26,599 --> 00:20:29,279 he can he has a chance to be like really impactive for them. 313 00:20:29,319 --> 00:20:33,359 He could be one of those guys it ends up being like the net rating 314 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Darling for the team, for example, where just his his his impact those 315 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,799 far beyond the counting numbers. I love it when guests answer a question before 316 00:20:41,799 --> 00:20:45,759 I even get to It makes my job so much easier. I was curious 317 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:49,440 about his role. The one thing that I still wondering is do we expect 318 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,759 him to play a ton with Al Horford, because then it seems like they 319 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:56,920 are going to be depending on Robert Willings to be defending away from the basketball 320 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,359 in that scenario, because I don't see Al horfor but he still has some 321 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:06,359 of that malleability to him, but he's just getting up there. And I 322 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,279 don't know if you know, I thought Robert Williams got better away from the 323 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:11,119 basket later on in the season or at least maybe I was tuning in when 324 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,319 there were flashes of it. But like you said, I don't know if 325 00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:15,599 that's gonna be his optimal role. And so do you think that we're gonna 326 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:19,880 see a lot of Horford Williams minutes slash? Do you see those minutes going 327 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,759 particularly? Well, oh, this is fun? Because I really don't know. 328 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,319 I don't know how is gonna and Brad Stevens is coaching. I would 329 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:33,640 tell you it would it would depend on what he sees from the other ways, 330 00:21:33,799 --> 00:21:36,720 because when he went double biggs last year, it was not because he 331 00:21:36,759 --> 00:21:41,160 liked double bigs. It was because that's how bad. That's like Grant Williams, 332 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,160 Romeo Langford, Nie Smith and stuff like that. Chemy show them something. 333 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,799 They showed him to not be reliable enough to play that because his preference 334 00:21:48,839 --> 00:21:52,559 was good was to play small. I don't know what. I don't know 335 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:56,119 what Emilcau's preferences that are gonna be. He might prefer to play big because 336 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,720 unlike last year, he didn't have he didn't have an other big that can 337 00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:04,200 space the floor in the type of way that Al Horford ken. So maybe 338 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,160 he goes big. But in my opinion, I could see them maybe going 339 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:15,960 with what's surprisingly either Josh Richardson. There's been some buzz about Aaron Nismith, 340 00:22:15,039 --> 00:22:18,680 but I don't think he dribbles good enough to even even in a role where 341 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,079 he's just catching and shooting. He dribbles that bad that I don't know if 342 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:26,680 I wanted him to start period, I wanted to play, I just don't 343 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,880 wanted to start Josh. Josh Richardson could be a guy that gets like that 344 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,640 early, not just because he's kind of he's he's kind of a two if 345 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,160 he's able to not comment. He is a two. If he's able to 346 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,359 hit some catch and shoots and maybe be like you know, high high, 347 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,920 thirty percent, low forty percent there, and then he brings a defensive kind 348 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,240 of integrity back to them between him and between him and Smart. That is 349 00:22:48,279 --> 00:22:52,319 kind of the backcourt that I think Emay would kind of like to envision them. 350 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,480 Just guys that can go nine before, are versatile, can really set 351 00:22:56,519 --> 00:23:00,960 the tone at the point of attack. Maybe maybe he values that over room 352 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,039 protection, but that would be something that will that that will bear out. 353 00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:07,519 But my but in my opinion, if I had to pick, I would 354 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:12,400 say maybe just out off the bench, Whip whip Shrewder, start, start 355 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,200 d Richardson and cross your fingers. He can hit, he can hit Caton 356 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:21,599 shrew threes in a more compimentary role and kind of just you know, have 357 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,519 like really value that point of attack defense and hope Rod can cover everything in 358 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:32,079 the back. I don't know that I would have asked this question before they 359 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:33,720 signed Dennis Shrewder, because I would have thought it was a no brainer. 360 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,759 But who do you even ends up getting more of an opportunity or just playing 361 00:23:37,799 --> 00:23:41,920 the bigger role for this team. Is it Peyton Pritchard or Aaronnie Smith who 362 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,559 both had pretty good summer leagues, although I think it was Nicias Duncan tweeted 363 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:49,839 that he heard people calling Peyton Pritchard Caucasian Kyrie or something and that was that 364 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,039 was a little too much for me. Yeah, I mean, that wasn't 365 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:57,000 gonna be good because again, Pritchard, Pritchard is another Portland guy. He 366 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,839 may he may has known him before he he came on the Celtics, so 367 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:06,039 there's already kind of built him familiarity there. But at the same time, 368 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,640 you know, he played the position that's kind of a strength of the Celtics. 369 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,599 They have Marcus mart there. They have been a shrewder there who's going 370 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,039 to command you know, a lot of minutes as well. So if for 371 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,920 Print, Princhard's path is he has to show he can play off one of 372 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,400 them and still kind of bring it defensively. Ni smif path Nismith's path is 373 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,759 a little bit easier because he's a wing because behind the Jays there's not a 374 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:33,119 lot of answers there Romeo, you know, we don't know necessarily what's going 375 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,960 to happen with him. Grant had a kind of down year and struggle with 376 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,079 confidence last year, so there's used to be like a place for a reserve 377 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,640 wing to kind of like butt himself in. So just you know, just 378 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,599 you know the positions of how they're stacking up now. I would kind of 379 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,079 pull money on nice Smith just because he showed himself to be a guy that's 380 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,599 willing, you know, to go all out spensively, even though I thought 381 00:24:55,599 --> 00:24:57,920 some of that was noise. He hustled a lot, which you know, 382 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,960 endeared him to the but his defense, like in terms of like reacting staying 383 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,880 in front of guys wasn't really that great. And I don't think it was 384 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,119 that great in summer League. He just hit a lot of shots, so 385 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:14,200 people didn't necessarily realize that. So you know it's still gonna be. It's 386 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,400 really up in the air, is what I'm trying to say. Like training 387 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,880 cab will determine that in my opinion. But if I had to put like 388 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,480 who's ahead right now, I would just go with Pritchard because I think he's 389 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,799 a better basketball player at this moment. Yeah, he looked really good in 390 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,640 summer League, and he Smith looked good on offense. I'd probably agree with 391 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,519 you with him defensively, and he is the Patrick Beverley of aaron Nie Smith's 392 00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:34,640 when you look at his activity. I don't know if there's a rhyme or 393 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,799 reason to it all the time? Is there like a So let me frame 394 00:25:40,839 --> 00:25:44,759 it this way. Between Juan her and Gomez, Grant Williams and Romeo Langford 395 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,240 who ends up playing a bigger role for this team, do any of them 396 00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:51,720 get a chance to even play a real role for this team? Well, 397 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,559 I shouldn't be admitting this. You just reminded me Want Show was on the 398 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:59,880 team. He moved around a couple of times, So I think that's on 399 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,519 understandable. Yeah, I forgot all about watching. Yeah, so Wancho, 400 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:07,440 so yes for one for the previous question, want to would obviously be involved 401 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,559 in in a perimeter guy who's trying to squeeze in for minutes. But I 402 00:26:11,599 --> 00:26:15,359 also, yeah, that's gonna be interesting to see because I know Wancho, 403 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,039 there's there, There's Jabari, I know some of the training camp guys they'll 404 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:25,400 see like Gary Clark, Jowan Mortigan. I think there's another. I think 405 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Luke Cornette, even which is crazy, is probably gonna get a look there. 406 00:26:33,759 --> 00:26:37,440 It's just it's very happy before or after they give up a first round 407 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:44,440 pick to get off of Venice candor oh my god, hopefully after oh god, 408 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,039 I miss doesn't then, but you know, so yeah, I really 409 00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:52,000 don't know, like after after he gets out of like the top like eight 410 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,640 nine guys, Like I really feel like it's like an open common tryout, 411 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,039 like we don't know what role is gonna be flidified. We don't know who's 412 00:26:59,039 --> 00:27:03,119 gonna rise and get it. And my money would my money I think if 413 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400 I had to take from some of those like thirty tier of guys, now, 414 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,039 I would look at I would look at I would look at Lancho, 415 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,799 But Jabari showed me a couple of things. I'm not reading to give up 416 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,799 a Jabari yet. I know he is what he is offensively, like, 417 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,839 I don't see him like gaining any crazy flexibility and being able to do a 418 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,240 bunch of things. But he showed me a little something as like a guy 419 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,640 that could potential to be a playmaker, as a guy that could tend to 420 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,799 be like just like a score, a guy that can play off of like 421 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:32,000 scores and stuff like that. I wonder if, like if you haven't been 422 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:34,960 a second unit with like Shrewder and Al Horford, if Horford can just like 423 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,400 direct him enough that he can be, like, you know, just a 424 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,640 neutral guy defensively and then maybe at least be like a semi positive guy offensively, 425 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880 because I think that that would be huge for a guy, like for 426 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,759 a guy on a non guaranteed deal. And I just think like with his 427 00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:56,839 age as well, he still plays pretty powerful, So I would I'm rooting 428 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,799 for him. I'm very rooting for him, but I would I just based 429 00:28:00,839 --> 00:28:04,839 off NBA body of work is probably one Joe, I will say, if 430 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,039 they're looking and as you sort of mentioned for another wing, type player who 431 00:28:08,079 --> 00:28:11,599 can potentially dribble. I wouldn't view it as hern And Gomez. Er Nie 432 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,359 Smith. Parker, even though he's a big probably just comes closer to that, 433 00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:19,319 given what he could do on on offense. Yeah. Uh so, 434 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720 as you're talking about this, it would just make me thinking. I think 435 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,279 Zach Lowe said it on one of his recent podcasts that he is confidence in 436 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:27,839 the Celtics because he feels like they just have a lot of good players, 437 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,200 And as as I was going through this roster, I found myself agreeing with 438 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:33,640 him. But it also, just as you're talking, just feels like this 439 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,559 mishmash where there's still a ton of mystery involved. The one thing I feel 440 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:42,839 very confident is that they're going to be a defensive nightmare for opposing teams. 441 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,599 And so if I were to ask you to fill in the blank of this 442 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,759 sentence, the Celtics will rank in the top blank in points allowed per possession. 443 00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:56,519 Where would you peg them in that hierarchy, I'd say I'd say top 444 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:03,720 five. I would want to go higher, but we're in Protection is still 445 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,640 a thing that exists, and I think Al Horford can be there. Positionally, 446 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,599 I worry about Rob just in general, I think you can build a 447 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,000 very elite defense even with those questions. But I think when you get into 448 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,240 the levels where you're talking about like the Utah and stuff like that, you 449 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,279 need to have also that scaring thing. I'm like, Okay, there's a 450 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,440 guy in the middle who I really fear. And if Rob can maintain even 451 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,559 after coaches scout him and kind of see his tendencies, if he can maintain 452 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,640 that presence, I'd probably take my answer to top two. But I have 453 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,039 to see it. I have to see it from him first. I have 454 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:45,359 to see that he's able to stay disciplined in all types of situations first, 455 00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,920 before I can really say like, yeah, they're gonna be like a really 456 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,599 really special defense, right not right not. I just think they're gonna be 457 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,039 elite. But if Rob can be like who I hope Rob can be, 458 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,079 they have a chance to be very special, very special because that that blend 459 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,119 of one of attack defenders from the guard position, defensive versatility from the wing 460 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,720 position, and then rim protection from the from the bigs that that time nation 461 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,920 was pretty deadly. So all it all keys on Rob about how specially could 462 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,279 be, but just just foundationally, just with what we know now. I 463 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,799 think that's the top five defions off top. I tried to go through it 464 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,519 and pinpoint teams that I knew or I thought I knew would be better than 465 00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,720 them on defense. And I think you can make cases for a bunch like 466 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,359 how you feel how you feel about Golden State as an example, I came 467 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 up with Utah, and I came up with Miami, and then I didn't 468 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,759 come up with any teams after that, just because of what happened with the 469 00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,640 Lakers this summer, what's gonna happen with Ben Simmons and Philly The Knicks leaned 470 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,079 all the way into shock creation. I thought Golden State's defense was like kind 471 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,799 of artificially inflated last year. I guess Phoenix could be in the conversation, 472 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:52,319 but there are only two teams that I really came away thinking. And I 473 00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:56,799 thought about Milwaukee for more than a minute, but I think Utah and Miami 474 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,480 are the only two teams I would say they're gonna definitively are going to have 475 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:04,000 better defenses than Boston this year for sure, And actually I would time to 476 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,559 diagree to it a little bit. I think we'll walk again have a better 477 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,680 defense just about what we know right now. I can't despect the champions and 478 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,640 I think there's something about winning a championship and the confidence that comes with that 479 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,920 and just having now you're you're in year what now? Drew Howdy is gonna 480 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,440 be here for another year? His first he has he has a school year 481 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,839 now, he's completely comfortable. The other guys that just at this stage all 482 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,880 corporate knowledge. So before we see anything, I would even give the edge 483 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,599 tive to Milwaukee just for now at least. Yeah, I guess I'm just 484 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,720 looking and their roster or some extent is gonna have to be relying on shemy 485 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,200 old Jela or Rodney Hood and even you know, Grayson Allen, especially with 486 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,359 Dante even trends about to start. I think the point that you bring up 487 00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:48,319 now though, with corporate knowledge, they were trying a lot of different stuff 488 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,920 defensively last year, and now that's probably gonna be second nature for all of 489 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,640 them. So top five feels right. I'll you know what you talked me 490 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:56,799 into it. I'll put Milwaukee above them. But those are like the only 491 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,720 three teams I could really think about. We are now I'm moving into the 492 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,079 most unoriginal portion of the podcast because these are questions I ask every single guest 493 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240 about their team. Who is the player most likely to be traded from this 494 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:12,640 team before the deadline as of today? I know stuff changes as the season 495 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:22,279 goes on. Oh without Okay, So it's also funny they like limited. 496 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:24,480 There are the no brainer once you know they're not going to trade me, 497 00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:28,079 you look at Jason Shaman down Brown, and then there are like you know, 498 00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,640 Al Horford and all I could isn't going anywhere. And then they you 499 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,079 extend Marcus Smart and Robert Williams. So if any deal happens there, like 500 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,000 that's not going to be for a while. So the options are pretty fairly 501 00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:45,079 limited here. Yeah, and it depends. I feel like if you're if 502 00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:49,079 we're just assuming that you know, like the big stars aren't going to be 503 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,400 available, like we will probably wait till the whole year and stuff like God, 504 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,359 I would say maybe Josh Richison, just because I think he's at a 505 00:32:55,359 --> 00:33:00,000 comfortable number where even if you aren't super high on him, you don't feel 506 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,160 handcuffed by his contract. And just you know, if I could see a 507 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,920 world where maybe like buy like me smith A Romeo, it's a really big 508 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,759 step and Josh Herinerson is still struggling with his shot, not really sure if 509 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,839 his role, not liking the fact that between Smart and the Jay's and Shrewder 510 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,519 he's not getting enough touches dribbling. I could see a world like that where 511 00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,519 he's not able with his role and then you know, because he's had he's 512 00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,920 had such come to a number, the team maybe gets like a little deal 513 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,319 when they're able to get I don't know, like maybe like a different type 514 00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:32,799 of wing like maybe a bigger win or something like that that maybe doesn't have 515 00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:37,559 the same type of name value. So oh maybe like a Richardson for like 516 00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:40,680 Joe Wingles and like a second round pick for example. I can see that 517 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:45,079 being I could see that being likely like like like like something like that. 518 00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:49,200 So I would say, Josh Persons, insofar as you care, I'm gonna 519 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880 be lame and say one hern and Gomez he has that non guaranteed year next 520 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:58,400 season, and if they let's assume Jabari Parker makes the roster, dealing like 521 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,920 dumping one hern and Gomez would be like the path to them just ducking the 522 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,519 luxury tax entirely. And so I'm just gonna be super lame and say it's 523 00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:08,000 him. Oh yeah, Oh, that would be very unfortunate because that would 524 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:10,519 say a lot about the front office. If there's still nothing in the luxury 525 00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:15,360 tax, that does a lot of not good things for people that need to 526 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,159 start thinking about how they're gonna convince the Jay's to resign again. But yeah, 527 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,119 but I don't I think Launche was good. He also liked that number 528 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,440 seven million. I think it's a hair over that. That's also a good 529 00:34:29,519 --> 00:34:31,960 like whether it's a stepping ladder just to help up your return at a certain 530 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,039 deal that just feels like a very digestible salary and it's basically an expiring contract. 531 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,400 Yeah, it's good. And I mean they're gonna have a lot of 532 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:45,880 very good tradable contracts come trade deadline. So it'll be very interesting, especially 533 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,599 a deal like doesn't doesn't like what he's seeing, is not into the cryptocurrency 534 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:57,559 magic that's that Spencer's talking and he requested deal. It'll be some very difficult. 535 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320 It'll be very difficult because it's something's just like their whole like half, 536 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:06,480 they're pretty much all their court has very trainable contract, so they'll be in 537 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,599 for something they'll they'll they'll be in for a lot of noise. If I 538 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,280 feel like requests of trade, what do you think will be the most used 539 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,960 or most effective crunch time lineup for this team? Okay, so I think 540 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:27,039 the first three I'm gonna put Smart and then the Jay's I think at the 541 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:32,519 five all things, all things equal, I'll put Horford, and then things 542 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:38,960 get tricky when it comes to that last spot. There's a lot of options 543 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,360 you can go with, but just with what we know of right now, 544 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:46,039 I would go Shrewder because I don't know. I don't know what Jodh Fridinson 545 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:49,960 is gonna how he's gonna fit in. I don't know what needs to it's 546 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,920 gonna do. I don't know what Prid is gonna do, and I don't 547 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,800 know what Lankford and Grant. I don't know what any of these guys gonna 548 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,719 look like this year. But I at least know Shrewder has. You know, 549 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,639 he has some NBA. He has an NBA resume being at least semi 550 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:05,719 productive as well, and he's and he has a pretty good track record being 551 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,239 good at multi guard lineups like he shouldn't. Okay, See, so I 552 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:14,840 could see a situation where you just go like Shrewder Smart Jayson Horford and just 553 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,840 kind of maximize all the playmaking that you have. You have guys that can 554 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,280 space the floor, and you just kind of and you have and they can 555 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,639 all defend like you're not You're not, you know, set selling extra guys 556 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,760 to help with Dennis and stuff like that. So maybe that's you know, 557 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,079 preseason that that that's my top role. And there's a chance that you know, 558 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,840 you could argue maybe Josh Versus isn't better than Shrewder, or maybe Robert 559 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,599 Williams is better than Horford, but there's a chance that just ends up being 560 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:43,159 their five best players of the season, and so that you wouldn't really have 561 00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,360 to overthink that situation. Oh and while we're on the pod, the Celtics 562 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,159 just said Ryan Are Yeah, they guy from the Bulls. He has a 563 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:57,519 really annoying face, but hey, he might see but I know I know 564 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,480 his his he's an energy guy. He's gonna go to a coach that's gonna 565 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,599 appreciate that. So maybe he'll make the team. That trading game is gonna 566 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:08,519 be very, very competitive for the Celtics this year. Brad Brad's bringing a 567 00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:13,679 lot of like veteran guys versus what I think Danny was doing, bringing a 568 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,199 lot of kids that that that didn't necessarily that wasn't gonna make a difference Brad. 569 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,800 Brad has a pretty competitive group of guys in camp, So I'm really 570 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,440 interested to see how that's gonna go. Is there a I'm gonna make you 571 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,119 the head coach? You have the ability to put any quirky, unconventional, 572 00:37:28,159 --> 00:37:30,440 out of left field lineup that you want to try on the floor. What 573 00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:36,800 would be that experimental five man unit for you? Oh? Okay, so 574 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,719 I'd put Tatum by point guard. I've always I've always wanted to do that. 575 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:45,199 I would put him right next to Jaln So actually Tatum Glan my back 576 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:52,760 court for my three and four. I would actually have I would actually have 577 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,760 Oh this, Oh, this is gonna be fun. Okay, let me 578 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,320 just have fun with this gun I'm gonna have. I'm gonna I'm gonna actually 579 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:06,400 put Aaron nick Smith here at the three. I'm gonna i'm gonna put Romeo 580 00:38:06,519 --> 00:38:10,000 length for at the four, and and I'm gonna put Grant Williams at the 581 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:17,199 five. No guards at all all, all all wing size players and just 582 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,119 run with it and just see what the heck happens. It would be a 583 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,920 complete disaster because as much as as much as players don't as much as we've 584 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,400 gotten rid of the positions and stuff like that, I still think players really 585 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,960 still self identify roles, and it'd be really weird to see how they are. 586 00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,440 But I think I think Tatum and Jalen will be comfortable enough. I 587 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,400 think Grant has played enough of the five that in Ni Smith he would just 588 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,599 run around. She would be crazy that having to stand. Romeo would just 589 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,519 be quiet, casually dunk on somebody and just keep on going. I just 590 00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:53,039 think they'd be like just so much versatility and passing and vibes and stuff like 591 00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:55,039 that. I I would just I would really just want to see it. 592 00:38:55,079 --> 00:38:59,679 But I'm also like a wing nut, So anytime you ask you questions like 593 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,679 that, just pick five wings and I'm all good. I'm all in, 594 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:05,159 well, as you're a wing nut, I'm a small ball nut. And 595 00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,840 I also I think you might be the first person who's come on this podcast 596 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,599 and given a wonky or lineup than I have, because I always put so 597 00:39:10,679 --> 00:39:14,960 much thought into these questions. So congratulations to you. Mine would be, 598 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,840 and it just seems so uninventive. After the one that you just named, 599 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,679 I would have Smart Brown and Tatum. Then I would have Jason Richardson, 600 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,960 and I would have Peyton Pritchard. You're playing without a center there, give 601 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,920 me all of that. Those are the lineups that I really love to see. 602 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,119 I imagine it'll get absolutely crucified, crucified on the glass. I also 603 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,119 can guarantee you that I don't care. I just would want to see what 604 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,639 would happen with that five mate group. And you can do some fun stuff 605 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:43,480 like zone defenses. The NBA is going up, up and up, so 606 00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:45,000 yeah, you still can come in glass. But if you need to, 607 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,159 if you need to protect yourself from spize, there's low a team down that's 608 00:39:50,159 --> 00:39:52,519 a perfect unit to do stuff like that. I think I think the league 609 00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,800 is gonna be fun this year. I think we're gonna see a lot of 610 00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:01,960 like experimental defenses. As you know, teams teams have now all everyone every 611 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,719 feels like every team now has kind of like small ball lineups and small ball 612 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,400 leanings. And I think now like we're seeing more like teams trying to exploit 613 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,679 each other's small ball lineups and I think a big part of that with zone 614 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,599 defenses, which I think we're gonna we're gonna start seeing an increase more across 615 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:22,519 the league as well, So I'm interested. Then this year's gonna be really 616 00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,960 fun. As we record this, Boston's over under is set at forty five 617 00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,840 point five. Are you taking me over the under on that? And where 618 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,559 do you ultimately see them stacking up within the East? Oh, I wouldn't 619 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:39,440 touched that because there's a there's a I just I just wouldn't because after last 620 00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:43,320 year, it's kind of like when you pop your tire, and then when 621 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,159 and then after you get a new tire, after every pothole you think your 622 00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:50,800 tires pops. After last year with COVID, I'm just so scared, Like 623 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,440 I just think, like, yo, the worst fossile stuff is gonna happen 624 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,920 to them. You don't know what the injuries, you don't know, And 625 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,199 that number is set up really nicely where it's like they could go over if 626 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,880 they're healthy and stay healthy the whole year. But whoever does that in the 627 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,920 NBA? You know? So I would I think it's closer to being that 628 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,440 forty five. I could see like a it's like what forty five and thirty 629 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,400 five or something like that, the record or something along those lone forty five 630 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,000 and thirty seven. That seems like that seems like respectable. I could see 631 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,519 them maybe finishing like higher forties, maybe touching like early fifties, but that's 632 00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:24,079 way too close. I wouldn't touch it. But if I had to pick 633 00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:28,239 gun to my head, I would go I would go over because I don't 634 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,360 see them. Also on the flip side finishing like too. It too far 635 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:36,280 below, So I would think over. But money wise, I wouldn't touch 636 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,840 the money with the ball I want to touch it. I would go over 637 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,400 too. And I just taught myself thinking that al Horfer is going to be 638 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,360 so fresh after being able to leave. Okay, see last year in the 639 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,760 middle of the season, and you have I have to imagine, No, 640 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,880 you can't assume health. But like hopefully Jayalen Brown will miss fewer games, 641 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,639 Tatum won't have to be dealing with the old effects of COVID, and maybe 642 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,960 Marcus Smart should might miss fewer games. And just my virtue of having that 643 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:07,320 that's almost just your path to forty six wins to me that they have to 644 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,440 clear. So I don't feel too confident. I'm with you. I wouldn't 645 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,920 touch it, but i'd go over as well. Is there anything I didn't 646 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,440 ask you about that you think needs to be covered about this team? Yeah? 647 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,239 I'm surprised he didn't ask me, like, do you want me on 648 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,719 the pod before or after the Celtics beat the next on opening night? I'm 649 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,199 surprised. I'm surprised you just never talked about this. Look, here's the 650 00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:30,320 thing is that I have to distance myself from the Knicks. After they let 651 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,280 Frankie Latina walk in free agent, so they needed a three and D wing. 652 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,880 He was sitting right there for them. So I'll be rooting for the 653 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,159 Celtics when they faced the Nicks of the first game of the season, just 654 00:42:40,199 --> 00:42:45,159 as just as retribution for the Knicks letting Frankie smokes leave for Dallas of all 655 00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,039 teams too. Oh man. But see, the Knicks has gotten themselves one 656 00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:52,519 of the most elite charge takers of old time and kemba Walker Come Walkers in 657 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:57,039 a surprise, you guys power. He plays defense. I've been along, 658 00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,480 I've came for him on defense. He plays his ass off, not as 659 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:02,039 much last year, but like you saw it in Charlotte. You saw it 660 00:43:02,119 --> 00:43:07,679 during that inaugural season in Boston. So I'm just curious, you know, 661 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,800 I'm sure you've looked at all the moves they've made. They're putting an awful 662 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:15,559 lot of stock in Our defense was very much tips based last year because you 663 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,800 let your best perimeter defender walk. Now RJ. Barrett has to cover all 664 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,320 these dudes. You do have, MITCHA. Robinson in nerlans No, well, 665 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,679 but you're I do think. Yeah, everyone likes to claim there's a 666 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,800 rhyme and reason to who they were letting shoot three pointers. I think part 667 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,800 of that's actually true when you watch them, and then also just what they 668 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,880 were doing off the ball. At the same time, there was definitely some 669 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,320 luck taked into their opponent three point shooting, and so they lead them leaning 670 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,079 all the way into shock creation. I kind of get it, but I'm 671 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,000 almost wondering if they went like one or two players too far where it was 672 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,039 like, oh, maybe you should have looked at keeping Reggie Bullock a little 673 00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:52,119 bit harder. Yeah, that is the thing. I actually I had similar 674 00:43:52,079 --> 00:43:53,480 conserns of that. But then also on the flip side, when you have 675 00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:58,039 so much more shock creation, Like, I'm mentioned to see how Julius Randall 676 00:43:58,119 --> 00:44:00,400 kind of reacts all that, because I felt like last year he would he 677 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,480 got to maximize himself because they needed him to do that, you know what 678 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,639 I mean. It reminded me a little bit about of like Isaiah Thomas that 679 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,039 first year at Boston, where it's like we had no other people that could 680 00:44:10,039 --> 00:44:14,599 create shot, could create shooting, So who cared if he did all of 681 00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:16,960 that and took all of that responsibility. But I'm mentioned to see how it 682 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,920 is now where you have a guy like Kemba, you have a guy like 683 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,280 Evan Fournier. Now I'm sure Derek Rose, r J. Barrett wants taken 684 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,800 other leap like Howard and all those guys are going to be guards the balls 685 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,599 in their head and making most decitizonables of the time. So I want to 686 00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:35,920 see, like, how what does that mean for Julius Randall's role and how 687 00:44:36,039 --> 00:44:39,000 is he going to react if he's kind of like if he's now more off 688 00:44:39,079 --> 00:44:42,800 ball and they're telling him to kind of create off the pick and roll now 689 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,559 versus like having the rock and kind of making all decisions that way. I 690 00:44:45,639 --> 00:44:49,159 was also a little bit disappointed because I would have liked to see RJ. 691 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,800 Barrett get at least the same amount of on ball agency and for all the 692 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,400 reasons you just mentioned, I think the Knicks are set up to give him 693 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:02,599 less and so I think that could potentially stunt his growth on offense, even 694 00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:06,960 if that you know, spot up jumper we saw last season is for real, 695 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480 M, what are the chances they bring him off the bench or because 696 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,800 I can see a situation like that, not not because he's performed projects treated 697 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,719 him getting better this year and coming off the bench, just because it'll I 698 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,920 just see like I see a lot of guys, a lot of scoring guys, 699 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,760 mentality and at the garden kind of like backcourt position where it's like I 700 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,360 wonder they're gonna have to make decision gone, kind of spreading out the scoring 701 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,400 a little more. And who I don't know if you if you tell Evan 702 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,400 and his seventeen million that he's going to be coming off the bench now versus 703 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,639 our day, but maybe you do. I don't know, but I'm very 704 00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:45,639 interesting to see the next The next is one of the more interesting teams for 705 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,960 me. I just want to see how it all turns out. Yeah, 706 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,079 and I think either way. The RJ. Barrett plus bench units actually kind 707 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:52,360 of killed last year. So even if they start him, I think you 708 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,920 need to find a way to stagger him just to get him that growth, 709 00:45:54,920 --> 00:46:00,840 whether it's effective or not. But Alex as the future president of the Seattle 710 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:07,280 SuperSonics, where can our listeners find you? On Twitter? Man? Right 711 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,519 now? You can find me at underscore Kungu up, I'm sorry, hungu 712 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,960 k you end to you underscore NBA. No, no underscore in the beginning. 713 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:21,360 I'm planning on getting back to writing this year. Yes, yeah, 714 00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,519 with the way the season and everything was so jumbled, I add to that 715 00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:28,519 overwhelmed everything. I just I couldn't write last year. But I think I 716 00:46:28,519 --> 00:46:30,480 think I'm gonna be back. So if you follow me on Twitter, I'll 717 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,280 probably I'll probably be somewhere on substag or phon or something like that, maybe 718 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,480 guests blogging for certain sights, but we'll see, but I'll be back following 719 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:44,079 me underscore NBA. I'll be very happy if you start writing again. I've 720 00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:46,760 also just wonder where you find the time as a lawyer to actually write about 721 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,320 this nonsense on the side. But thank you as always for coming on it's 722 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,079 always a blast and I'm sure, as you know by now, i'll be 723 00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:57,960 pestering you again in the future and no problem, and it's it's always good 724 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,239 to happen to the Opera band, So thank you, Obtundy.