1 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:19,399 You are listening to w U n H command God, don't get so greenly 2 00:00:19,679 --> 00:00:56,759 died, maself. Thank you, Good morning everybody, welcome, here we 3 00:00:56,799 --> 00:01:00,520 go. It is that time again, Matt Connorton Unleashed and we are live 4 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:04,319 from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM and Glorious 5 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:10,359 Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Little chili out but glorious nonetheless, also on 6 00:01:10,439 --> 00:01:12,719 Comcast Channel six if you're in Manchester, and hello to all of our online 7 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:15,799 listeners across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website 8 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,719 Matt Connorton dot com for all of your live streaming options, social media links, 9 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:23,920 contact info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is 10 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Saturday, November twenty five, twenty twenty three, and I am not alone. 11 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,159 Jenny is here at the news desk. Good morning, sunshine, good 12 00:01:44,239 --> 00:01:48,120 morning, and yeah, we have quite a show. But it's weird getting 13 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,159 used to that saying morning on the show. In other word, I'm having 14 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:55,680 a hard time with it because it was a night shifter for seventeen right right, 15 00:01:56,239 --> 00:02:00,760 a thing. But we've got a we've got a very busy show coming 16 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,560 up. We've got some great guests we're gonna introduce and just a moment, 17 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:07,080 Uh, we've got the guys from Run Like Thieves here, and then uh 18 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:12,479 coming up in the second hour we have Charlie from from the band Rolling Exile 19 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,159 skyping it all the way from London. And then third hour we've got Pretty 20 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:17,400 Late coming in. We just heard one of their songs. Actually, we're 21 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,639 gonna hear some new stuff from them in the third hour, but uh, 22 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:25,879 pretty late. That's uh my personal favorite of theirs, that song of you 23 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,520 from Here Yet. I really really love that thought. Yeah, that's a 24 00:02:29,719 --> 00:02:32,120 that's a great track. And uh, if you have any questions for any 25 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,319 of our guests today, the studio line is open six oh three two five 26 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,199 six seven six oh three two five oh six oh seven. You can also 27 00:02:39,319 --> 00:02:45,000 text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm 28 00:02:45,039 --> 00:02:49,360 on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Coonnorton 29 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:53,560 dot com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live 30 00:02:53,719 --> 00:02:57,759 chat. Looks like we've got a busy chat room already. I see Isaac 31 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,199 Banks in there, Jenny, you're in there, of course, I'm everywhere. 32 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,759 Legion of Solis who a great band who've proven to be quite loyal as 33 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:07,719 well. They say, greeting's friends, Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. 34 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,199 Carol's of Warwiz joins us and says good morning everyone and easy g of course 35 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,759 in the Facebook live chat, maybe he'll call, uh, maybe he'll call 36 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,080 with a question today, And I bet I know what the question will be 37 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:24,560 if he does. I know, yes, yes, but let me get 38 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:30,879 the mics up on these guys and we have Run Like Thieves live in studio. 39 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,360 How are you guys? Welcome? Good, hey man, Hey Abe, 40 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,719 Let's start with you because I've known you forever. Yeah, I just 41 00:03:39,159 --> 00:03:43,599 I'd love for each of you to introduce yourselves and tell us what you do 42 00:03:43,639 --> 00:03:46,400 in the band. Hey, I'm Abe. I play the bass and evidently 43 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:53,159 i'm the technical guy. That's that's what we hear by default. Yes, 44 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,680 and on the couch. Hi, Greg Santini, the drummer for Run Like 45 00:03:59,759 --> 00:04:03,159 the You can find me on social media at Running Drummer because I like to 46 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:08,159 run a lot. So yeah, mean my channel, Running Drummer. That 47 00:04:08,919 --> 00:04:11,319 makes sense. Yeah, I wondered I didn't know if you had some sort 48 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:15,159 of gimmick where you run and you play the drums you're running. I'd like 49 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,439 to do that. You get a baseline. It seems like a very obvious 50 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:24,120 idea. And the gentleman in the corner with the giant cardboard Peter whitehead for 51 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:29,160 those watching online, And my name is Dan Fallon, and I am the 52 00:04:30,399 --> 00:04:33,800 I am the media front of the band, and you can find me on 53 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:41,839 only Dan's dot com and pay for my subscription there. Yeah. So I'm 54 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,639 laughing extra hard because when Matt said that, by the look of your face, 55 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,000 I know that you thought he was talking about your head. But I'd 56 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,199 like you to turn over your right shoulder. Oh goodness, Now that's the 57 00:04:54,399 --> 00:05:02,720 giant Peter White had. It's very appropriately placed. Oh yeah, No, 58 00:05:02,759 --> 00:05:06,480 I wasn't referring to your head. No, I was like, how did 59 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:11,000 they notice? I was checking to see if my fly was down. He's 60 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,720 got a huge head. Now now technically, uh, technically, I am 61 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,040 though allowed to make jokes about people with large heads because I have a large 62 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:24,399 head. So that makes it okay. I realized that, No, that 63 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:27,920 makes you self loathing. I realized, I bet you cry yourself to sleep 64 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,680 on your huge pillow. Well that's right, Well you know. I'm Irish 65 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,759 and Irish people we have. I realized that years and years ago. I 66 00:05:34,759 --> 00:05:38,879 was watching Conan O'Brien in his monologue. He made a joke about the size 67 00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:40,920 of his own head, and I never thought about it. I was like, 68 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:43,519 yeah, he does have a big head, and he but the joke. 69 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:46,079 It was something about Irish people having large heads. And I was like, 70 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,639 wait, I'm Irish. Do I have a big head? And I 71 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:48,839 ran to the bathroom mirror and I was like, oh, yeah, wow, 72 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,399 I do I look like a South Park character. I get this giant 73 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,000 Irish melon I'm walking around with. But uh, but I look at it 74 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,600 this way. I needed to hold my enormous sprain. That's right. So 75 00:06:01,399 --> 00:06:05,639 I think that it's an appropriately sized head for your brain. Thank you, 76 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:13,199 thank you. I am also Irish and I'm very sensitive about the size of 77 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:18,439 my head. Well it's uh is it too small from over there? You 78 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:31,360 know? Well anyway, what Marryland anyway, But it looks bigger up close. 79 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,720 That's great, great, it's it's it's uh, it's it's wonderful to 80 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:40,639 have you guys here and Abe, it's great to see you. You've been 81 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,399 in now when when I first met you. You were in the East is 82 00:06:45,519 --> 00:06:49,279 East back at the old Guildford practice space. Yes, yes, now is 83 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,759 that where? Where is Revelry Studios? Is that where that is? Novel? 84 00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:58,480 What was here in Manchester? The building just sold or something? So 85 00:06:58,959 --> 00:07:02,959 uh mad uh Matt Blanchette is the guy that ran that, along with his 86 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,240 other guys, Tyler Ayers. And they're looking for a new space. Okay, 87 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:11,839 they'll still like go out and do things. And I would highly recommend 88 00:07:11,839 --> 00:07:15,240 them. I think we all would highly recommend. We were lucky to get 89 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,800 in before they closed. We might have been one of the last people recorded 90 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:23,879 in our studio. Yeah, oh wow. And they are amazing. They're 91 00:07:23,879 --> 00:07:27,399 incredible. And how did the three of you come to play together? How 92 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:30,560 did this band form? Well? I, why don't you tell this? 93 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,920 I so I moved up from New York. I retired. I was a 94 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:40,399 fireman in New York City and I retired and came up to New Hampshire. 95 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,759 And I've been playing drums for a really long time and I wanted to start 96 00:07:44,759 --> 00:07:47,079 a band. So I met two other guys, started playing and then we 97 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:49,879 played out. We didn't have a singer. We were just too you know, 98 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:57,680 a trio of Just Music and they were really good and and we're still 99 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,160 friends with One of the bass players is awesome guy, Carmen Serrano, great, 100 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:09,000 great guy. But anyway, met Dan at an open mic and he 101 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,399 was just the nicest guy and I was like, who is this guy? 102 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,680 And he started singing. I was like, oh, this guy can sing. 103 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,600 We need a singer bad. So he ended up playing with us, 104 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,199 and Dan and I just kind of really became really good friends and continue to 105 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,000 make music. And Dan is just Dan is the kind of guy that just 106 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,519 he'll do anything, like he will just play anywhere, play anytime. He's 107 00:08:31,559 --> 00:08:37,399 got no qualms, you know, doesn't care about what anyone thinks, which 108 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,720 is which is a really hard thing to find in a in a musician, 109 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,399 because a lot of musicians are very you know, they're I guess they're sort 110 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,080 of afraid to insecure. They don't they don't want to play out or whatever. 111 00:08:48,399 --> 00:08:52,559 Dan is the opposite of that, play anywhere anytime, we want to 112 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,799 all you want to play you know the song, Nope, let's play it 113 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,919 anyway, you know. Like That's so I really admired that about Dan, 114 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,840 and then we ended up doing a lot of cover as a cover band thing, 115 00:09:03,879 --> 00:09:07,000 and then we met Abe. Abe was our backup bass player for the 116 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:13,679 cover band, and he came right in and he was just insanely good. 117 00:09:13,799 --> 00:09:16,639 Yeah, and I was like wow, and I really connected with Abe musically, 118 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:22,039 and that's a huge thing for drummers. In my opinion, your band 119 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,000 is only as good as your bass player and your drummer. And he was 120 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,919 just right on, you know, right connected right away, and it was 121 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:33,159 fantastic. And we just started playing together and we dan had a bunch of 122 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,879 music that we thought was great and Abe and I basically put our own thing 123 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:41,440 on it and you know, help him produce a lot of the stuff and 124 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,080 make it even better than it is. And it's just it's been great. 125 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,919 It's been really great, Yeah, really great. We've been on a really 126 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,000 good run. Excellent, excellent. What what brought you to New Hampshire? 127 00:09:52,000 --> 00:10:01,519 By the way, they don't tax my pension, so you also, we 128 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:05,240 love to hike and schime. I have two kids and and and my wife 129 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:11,440 and they just love the outdoors and you know, they're they're really you know, 130 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,639 I just love the the everything about We love being close to the mountains, 131 00:10:15,639 --> 00:10:18,840 the ocean, the city in Boston, only four hours from New York, 132 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:20,919 so if we want to go back home, it's not a big deal, 133 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,440 you know. So it's it's great. We love it. Yeah, 134 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,120 actually excellent. Are you from here down? I'm from Maldon, Massachusetts originally 135 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:35,080 okay, okay in the streets? Yeah, and ay are you from here 136 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,919 originally? Yeah? I mean I'm from uh uh Sandwich, uh Sandwich, 137 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,240 tam Worth originally kind of been moving my way south ever since. Yeah, 138 00:10:43,799 --> 00:10:46,480 I won't go too much farther. You're gonna end up in that tax category. 139 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,080 That's all right. Yeah, that's right. That's right. So maybe 140 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:58,360 I don't need to worry about that. Yeah, that's right. Massachusetts taxes 141 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,639 everything. Yeah, you breathe, I got you. That's a quarter come 142 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:07,840 back exactly. Hello to our friends Jay fed and Melanie from the great state 143 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,200 of Vermont, who are in the chat room. Speaking of very loyal listeners. 144 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,360 So, how long is how long has this been a band? It's 145 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:18,039 been a couple of years. Yeah, Well, Dan and I've Dan and 146 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,679 I've been playing together for about a little over two years and then Abe joined 147 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:24,480 us. I guess in the last maybe a year ago. Yeah, so 148 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,720 I got the call from Brian back in March, right, Yeah, Brian's 149 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:33,440 our he's our horn player for the cover band. Oh okay, another awesome 150 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,759 musician, great guy plays with the Bulkheads. Yeah, yeah, he's a 151 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:43,879 Bulkhead guy. Yeah. And then we started writing tunes together. I don't 152 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,840 know, we were going to practice one day and do some covers for like 153 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,159 a trio gig the three of us, and then just start to writing some 154 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:52,360 songs. So it's pretty dope. I was like, oh, let's try 155 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,279 this, this will be and it sounded awesome. Yeah, we get some 156 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,960 bangers coming and I was like, oh, wow, let's do this, 157 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,879 let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. I've played a lot of bands and 158 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:09,240 a lot of you know, different musicians and some great musicians, and I've 159 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:15,799 never been I've never been prouder of what we just did recently recording wise too, 160 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,080 and just musically, the synergy and the connection that we have has been 161 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:26,360 it's been so good. There's just no no attitudes. You know, everyone 162 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:30,679 is super nice and you know, everyone works really well together, and we 163 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,879 don't have any you know, weird issues like a lot of bands do. 164 00:12:35,159 --> 00:12:39,559 Yeah, there's no none of that, you know, So we we you 165 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,879 know, we love it. It's really good. Yeah. When it's easy 166 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,519 like that, then you know you've really got something. Yeah. It's very 167 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,240 fair balance, everyone's very honest with each other about things, and it's really 168 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,000 good. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's excellent. Well we should all let's 169 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,360 listen to one of these studio tracks and then and then and then we're gonna 170 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,120 hear you guys live. But I love this, Mamma, come get me 171 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,759 this. This is a great, great song. So we're gonna well, 172 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:07,120 uh, we'll listen to this, and then we've got another studio track that 173 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:09,000 we'll play a little bit later, and then you guys are gonna play, 174 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,320 uh tell her as a song, you guys are gonna play live for us, 175 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:16,799 right yeah, okay, but yeah, let's give this a listen first. 176 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:18,960 This is really good. And where was this? This was recorded at 177 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:24,159 Revelry. It was recorded at Revelry and all live and we have never aired 178 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:26,320 it. Uh. This is the first, very special day, so thank 179 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,799 you for having us here. Absolutely, and technically it was the first song 180 00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:35,000 that we really kind of together as a band, really put together. Yeah, 181 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,320 yeah, it was one of the first excellent Okay, so this is 182 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,279 technically a world radio premiere. Yeah We Love the World Radio premieres here at 183 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:46,840 Matt Connorton unleash so very good. All right, let's give this a listen. 184 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,559 This is a great song. Mamma, come get me by, run 185 00:13:48,679 --> 00:14:05,559 like thieves. Really give me your ass, grin all your hat made of 186 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:11,639 stone. Pleased to forgive her where your mind? She could stab me in 187 00:14:11,759 --> 00:14:26,720 the back and kick me when I'm down, ll be kive me there across 188 00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:33,679 the bak. I won't bury it all along burned everyone I ever loved the 189 00:14:33,759 --> 00:14:37,399 cave. Don't need to give us when you never home by her, Come 190 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:43,440 get me Roba Comb then and bring you home. Yeah, mine o'clock, 191 00:14:43,559 --> 00:15:03,000 getther Mina, come then to bring her home. I hope you find your 192 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,600 deliverance. Hope you fight your way home. I hope you find the love. 193 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,600 He is irrelevant until that stay gone, Mama Columba, get me, 194 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:20,399 Lama Comb went to bring you home? Yeah, Mina, come pet Pyma 195 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:31,919 com wan bring you home. Don't until tat that tamping done. Still mana 196 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:48,759 Coomba given it, Mama Comba, get but bring me home. You'll feel 197 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:56,399 soap cool, feels silly, steal smart. You can have a millionion dollars. 198 00:15:56,559 --> 00:16:23,759 Boy, you'll never fight a pan of coom. Mama come came here, 199 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:41,120 Mama con came Mama, Mama Clone to bring home and rush deepen still 200 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:51,519 Mama comp kailer. Mama Clone writ bling. Oh, oh that is so 201 00:16:51,679 --> 00:16:53,679 good. I love that song. Really good, guys, Mama come to 202 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:57,200 hear Mama, come get me by Run like Thieves. Hey, where's the 203 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,799 name come from? By the way, that's a cool name. Yes, 204 00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:03,160 thank you. I actually came up with a name. Actually technically not me, 205 00:17:03,279 --> 00:17:07,599 but I used to play with another friend of mine in a band way 206 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,279 back when in Tennessee, and which is actually the name of one of our 207 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:15,359 songs too, but has nothing to do with that. But anyway, I 208 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,000 used to live in Knoxville, Tennessee, my buddy Will and Will Day and 209 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:25,160 we had a band that called Nelly Bly and then we I left and came 210 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,440 back and hadn't talked to him in years, and then we ended up connecting 211 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,000 again and I had a home studio and we did some recording and he said, 212 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,880 oh, we got to call it run like Thieves, and that's really 213 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,519 cool. And then we just stopped playing together. And then once we all 214 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,839 got together, we were thinking of band names, and I was like, 215 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,519 you know, I used to have a band name called run Like. It 216 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:45,880 really wasn't a band. It was just like me and my buddy, like, 217 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,160 you know, doing some stuff and we called it run Like Thieves. 218 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,119 So I called my buddy Will just to make sure. I'm like, hey, 219 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,400 is it cool that we use this name? He's absolutely, He loves 220 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,920 the stuff. So he's like that's He's like, absolutely, you know, 221 00:17:56,319 --> 00:17:57,759 please use it. It's great. And I said, okay, cool. 222 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,839 And we already had a Facebook page that was up run Like Thieves on Facebook 223 00:18:03,279 --> 00:18:07,440 that I had for probably three years and then never did anything with it. 224 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,160 And now we actually start posting everything on there, and we all have our 225 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:14,200 YouTube channel run Like Thieves and all that stuff. So we're we're slowly but 226 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,359 surely. And all these recordings that we that you're hearing now we're also recorded 227 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,480 with on camera as well, and they came out fantastic, like they did 228 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:37,559 such a good job at that revery. I can't even say the word you're 229 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:47,599 right. I'm just so glad aname quickly because yes. And what's what's cool 230 00:18:47,599 --> 00:18:51,000 about the band name is that it's it's three words, which represents the three 231 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:53,240 of us. And then on the running Drummer, so that's the whole run 232 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,640 was and was also in there, and I was like, that's kind of 233 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,359 perfect. Let's let's just do it. Call it that. So it's it's 234 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,359 got a cool like r L T you know, so you can make like 235 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:10,119 cool stickers. Yeah yeah, and as the ls the like because everybody likes 236 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,559 abe yeh, and he like listens really well run and then Dan as the 237 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:22,759 Thief, he's a banker. He's yeah, he's a good thief though. 238 00:19:22,839 --> 00:19:30,039 That's that's the PC version of the thief. Gotcha. Well, let's see 239 00:19:30,039 --> 00:19:33,319 this. I'm dying to hear you guys play live. So you are all 240 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,599 right oh yeah yeah? Uh so if you want to play, yeah, 241 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,920 you're you're gonna do uh Tennessee right, Oh no, I'm sorry. I 242 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,480 tell her, tell her good night, Tell her good night. Tennessee. 243 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:48,279 Is the other studio also out already, Yeah, on all forms. It's 244 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,880 on Spotify, Apple Music. Uh, you can even ask your Alexa yeah 245 00:19:55,759 --> 00:19:57,640 song and it'll give it to you. I couldn't believe it. I think 246 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,400 that's when I knew I I may it musically. Yeah, recognized me that 247 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:04,599 was like, all right, I did it. That is pretty cool. 248 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,920 But in this one, we have a video online for so we get in, 249 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:17,480 uh run like thieves YouTube and it's picking up some steam. Actually it's 250 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,559 very very cool, yes, with very it's really no marketing on it is 251 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,640 just kind of organic doing its things. That's good like that. So if 252 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,519 you're out there, please look it up. It's pretty cool. Yeah, 253 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:32,400 that's pretty cool. Yeah, that that is extremely cool. Yeah, whenever, 254 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,440 whenever you guys are ready, I'll have to kind of, uh we're 255 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:38,119 ready, I'll have to kind of you know, I'll move the faders around 256 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:53,799 and try to try to get the booth balance and what's up. That's amazing, 257 00:20:53,880 --> 00:21:00,440 you're really you're really on this it Today I was, I'm helping him 258 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,839 with his levels. Well, I was just thinking, you're probably not used 259 00:21:03,839 --> 00:21:07,920 to say I used to singing this early right in the day, or maybe 260 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:14,160 you are. I don't know. I just never stopped singing my mama all 261 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,400 the time. I sing at work. Would you like me to help you 262 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:21,000 with that all the time? Okay, that's the way to go. All 263 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:22,240 right, Well, you know I get yelled at by my woman. Oh 264 00:21:22,319 --> 00:21:27,119 I'm so sorry. She loves it. You know, yeah, she can't 265 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,559 stay mad, right, you should have gotten an A plus instead of an 266 00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:37,519 A minus. What are you doing to your dad all the time? Just 267 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:41,279 keep it low going. Oh, that's good, that's probably very healthy. 268 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:51,680 It's very very good. All right, whatever you guys are ready? All 269 00:21:51,759 --> 00:22:02,799 right? Lips taste black whiskey, ass smell black. Be here, she 270 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:10,119 says. Look about the souths. Look how closed they be? You girl, 271 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,720 lehing like your way back home. That's what you should do, because 272 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:22,519 I know somewhere there's the port like on waiting for you. You gotta tell 273 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:27,839 a good bye, tell a good night, tell a good boys don't always 274 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,400 do right. Not time out. It's gonna leave you in the morning. 275 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:41,519 Well, let's cold, I seal the devils. Feal might feel wrong that 276 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:48,160 and how it feels not time loud. It's gonna leave you with no wanting 277 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:07,039 girl. Put the slave out right now, or it's just gonna burn us 278 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:14,640 both because sens you minutes will be gone so far we ain't going home, 279 00:23:17,559 --> 00:23:22,960 and i'd like to leave. We're just a little bad left up my soul, 280 00:23:22,279 --> 00:23:27,000 dear, I have to with me what you will? The snag decides 281 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:32,559 for to take care. You gotta tell a good bye, tell a good 282 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:37,039 name, tell a good girls. Don't always do right, not time out. 283 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:44,759 It's gonna leave you in the morning. Well, it's cold like steal, 284 00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:49,240 the devil steal not be around that. It has to feet, not 285 00:23:49,599 --> 00:24:11,480 time though. It's gonna leave you with no won't even load the miles away 286 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:19,359 now in the moment's long, un the memory of your love still lingers. 287 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:27,039 Don hen out. Wonder what you would do if I turn this car around, 288 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,759 head it back to your town. But I I just look up at 289 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:36,240 the sunder. I have to keep all ride it on. You gotta tell 290 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:40,880 a good fie, tell a good night, tell the good people. Don't 291 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:45,759 always do right, not time down. It's gonna leave you in the morning. 292 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,200 Well, it's go like steel, the devil Steel might be around, 293 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:57,359 daddy, how it feels, not down though, it's gonna leave you, 294 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:36,759 just gonna leave. Yeah, no moment, Oh my god, you guys 295 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:45,039 sound amazing. Thank you you guitar fantastic, fantastic, Thank you. If 296 00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,799 you're just joining us, We've got run like thieves a lot live in studio 297 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,519 with us. We have Abe, Greg Dan, they are all here and 298 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,400 yeah, you guys sound amazing. That was that was very very cool. 299 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,759 Thank you A. Are you playing out a lot? Are you doing a 300 00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:03,000 lot of live shows? Yes? Yeah, Dan plays out all the time. 301 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,160 This is actually sweat and I can just stick my pick on it. 302 00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:12,440 I don't have to. Dan plays a lot. As far as the band 303 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:18,039 goes, we play. We we haven't played a lot as Run Like Thieves. 304 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:22,519 We play a lot as as a cover band quite a bit, but 305 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,880 we haven't actually played a lot as Run Like Thieves. So we're we're excited 306 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:33,599 to get out there and play and start really playing shows as us and putting 307 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,480 our original content out there. Because nobody wants to hear original content a lot 308 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,240 of times, so we get it. But I think, I feel, 309 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,720 and I think we can all agree that that our original content is pretty universal, 310 00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:51,440 I think, and I think people can hear it and kind of dig 311 00:26:51,519 --> 00:26:56,279 it. You know. It's not like weird and obscure. I'm not trying 312 00:26:56,319 --> 00:27:00,200 to be mister Bungle. Yeah, which, by the way, we've all 313 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,440 done that, which is a huge influence of mine. By the way, 314 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,759 I actually huge love mister Bungle. Yeah, but yes, we're not like 315 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,759 that. But so we're sort of universal so I think we can get away 316 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:17,119 with even playing bars and places where you know, crowds are hanging out and 317 00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:19,240 they would just be like, oh, that's just good music, right. 318 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:26,400 But please check out our listings at Run Like Thieves and see where we're playing, 319 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,880 and don't don't be too shy, and please come see Dan Fallon sing 320 00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:34,400 and Abe sings with me and Craig sings with me, and that's Dan Fallon 321 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:42,640 music. And we will be at the well. Run Like Thieves songs will 322 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:49,480 be played at the following venues, Yes in the near future, Patties and 323 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:56,079 Drake It the Wild Rover Manchester, Eric's Church and Wyndam, Maine Foster's Tavin 324 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,559 the Thirsty Pig Songwriter in the Round with Katie Dobbins, The Birch Bar, 325 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,920 Saddle Up Saloon in Kingston, where I just came from a couple of minutes 326 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:12,039 ago, The Birch Bar, ax and Ale Deps landing up in Tamworth in 327 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,359 that real local job, High for Give Me High Octane Saloon, and Laconia. 328 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,599 We got a gig there too, and we back at Defiant Records. 329 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,960 And that's all I can do right now, because I don't I don't want 330 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,640 to. It's a lot. Yeah, there's a lot. That's some of 331 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,240 those gigs aren't full band gigs, but okay, but some of them will 332 00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:37,240 be. Yeah, and it's always it's always a good time, excellent, 333 00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:41,920 we're always entertaining. Yes, Oh, I don't want to forget to. 334 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,000 You guys very generously brought us. Uh, we're gonna we're gonna dig into 335 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:51,440 those, we're gonna save we're gonna save those for later. But you guys 336 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,640 brought us a box of donuts and they look really good. And where they're 337 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,400 from, Goodies, good goodie good donuts. Well, like I said that, 338 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:06,599 Good Doughnuts located in Laconia at two thirty five Union Avenue, and they 339 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,160 look awesome. And you guys were saying, like they they open and they 340 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:14,160 sell out, they sell out, I mean by nine thirty A lot of 341 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,200 times when they open their they close they when they sell out, they close 342 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:21,200 the store. They open I think at five thirty or five or something like 343 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:23,240 that. Yeah, what a crazy thing. Yeah, it's amazing. Oh 344 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:27,279 my god, you're gonna don't just look amazing. They're so good that I 345 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,279 am sorry, Okay, we're gonna I'm sorry. That's how good that. 346 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:37,920 That's what I'm trying to tell you, Wowl. I got you three dozen, 347 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,680 and I only wound up having six by the time they're flopping around the 348 00:29:42,759 --> 00:29:48,480 bottom flopping going on over here too, it would have been like, here's 349 00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:55,599 two. At least there's not one with like a bite taken out of it. 350 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,720 They're all intact in that way. I've seen that. I've seen that. 351 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,200 I'm looking at this business's pictures and they have like, oh god, 352 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:08,799 oh fruity pebbles. They're donuts covered in fruity pebbles. I remember fruity pebbles 353 00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:14,200 from my youth. I'm sorry, but that's crazy. I have never seen 354 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,359 that. You know, donuts go good with the season two? Oh yeah, 355 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,359 oh yeah, yes, yes, Hey, the studio donuts. The 356 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,680 studio line is open. Yeah, thank you guys. The donut or do 357 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:33,160 do? These are do do? They're not donuts their do The studio line 358 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,599 is open if if you have any questions for these guys six oh three two 359 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,400 five six seven, six oh three two five six seven, we have a 360 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,599 few more minutes with them, so don't delay. If you have any questions 361 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,000 or feedback or anything at all for the band. We've got run like thieves 362 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,799 here live in studio with us. We do have another studio track too that 363 00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:52,640 we're going to play at the end of the segment. That's another great song, 364 00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:59,440 Tennessee. But now, when you I wanted to kind of circle back 365 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,920 to this about recording to Revelry, it does it is easier to say it 366 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:17,319 that way. Give me that donut. Never never, Oh my goodness, 367 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:26,119 I'm bringing more donuts. Did you guys record these kind of sort of was 368 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,119 it live basically instead of that's the only way we do it too? Yeah? 369 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:36,240 Yeah, I was just telling telling these guys this morning that that I 370 00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:42,720 was watching a documentary on Tom Petty doing Wildflowers when Rick Rubin took over as 371 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:47,920 producer and they did it live. They did they did? You know, 372 00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,200 they recorded it live as opposed to doing it track by track, which is 373 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,400 a lot of times what people do usually. Yeah, and I do that. 374 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,440 I do a lot of that, just recording for other bands and stuff 375 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:06,680 just in my studio. So if you have drum tracks, but anyway, 376 00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,079 you you miss something when you do that, in my opinion, and when 377 00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,559 we recorded there, and of course they did such a great job of mixing 378 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,279 and putting it all together. So I've never you know, I've never heard 379 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:24,160 myself back like that, and I was like, whoa, that's legit. 380 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:29,319 Like these guys are really really good. So but you know, they captured 381 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,680 the moment and we just we we did have a good session. We definitely 382 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,000 played well. And I was like, Okay, that was really good. 383 00:32:36,039 --> 00:32:39,240 We do each song took a couple of takes, but but and way way 384 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:43,480 less expensive, and and and you're like you're not thinking, it's not in 385 00:32:43,559 --> 00:32:45,640 your head, you know, it's almost like you don't have enough time to 386 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,759 think about it, like it's just gonna get done. And that that's that's 387 00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,160 a cool thing to be on the you know, like you have to be 388 00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:00,960 right in the edge of disaster, you know, and you're right on that, 389 00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:04,880 like, Okay, this could be not good and and then hopefully just 390 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,119 it goes well. And when when you capture it, you capture something. 391 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,359 And I think for those this LP, we captured something. We hope to 392 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,319 do it again with those guys eventually, wherever they land and wherever they open 393 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,599 up another studio, I'll go back there. And then heartbeat, Yeah, 394 00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:23,440 it was that's what really they did capture the the US they captured us, 395 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:30,359 and if it's good enough for Muddy Waters, it's good enough for but Abe 396 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,680 did make Abe. It was like, these guys, man, I'm going 397 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,400 to get them lined up. So he before the before U, before we 398 00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:43,759 recorded, we he made we were really ironed out. Yeah, uh, 399 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,960 like every meat, every beat. So I've gotten so used to doing the 400 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,519 recording track by track like that that I just assumed that we would want to 401 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,720 do it that way. So I made click tracks and everything. Yeah, 402 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,640 and we rehearsed with them with them. Yeah, but you know, we 403 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,480 got there with the cameras and everything rolling, and yeah, just become evident 404 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:07,159 that like, yeah, we're going to throw that out the window, and 405 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,480 you know, luckily we're good enough. It was good to rehearse that way 406 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,920 and then to show up and just relax a little bit and they have to 407 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,159 worry about that so much. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. 408 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,599 You can show up, relax and kind of really bring it. I just 409 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:22,320 wanted to say, too, Matt and Jen, for all of your listeners 410 00:34:22,519 --> 00:34:27,840 who are shy and haven't asked a question yet, the answer is yes. 411 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,320 I don't mean the answer is yes to your questions. Okay, all of 412 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:37,559 the questions. Yes, Shirtless, just start Yes, that's how I like 413 00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,920 to you know, what the the what's great about Abe too? And just 414 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:50,199 to give a more accolades, but Abe really he comes in studied like he's 415 00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,519 he's the kind of guy that does his homework as as a musician, and 416 00:34:54,639 --> 00:35:00,679 it's it's really awesome to have someone like that who really sits down and dissects 417 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,400 everything and then and then you know, puts his own spin and production on 418 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,360 it. And it's he's been so good like that, and that that was 419 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,239 another reason why we're like, oh my god, he's the dude, like 420 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:17,280 the guy and actually there and not kidding there really is question. One of 421 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,119 our favorite listeners, Isaac. He always wants to know what people's influences are, 422 00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:27,360 who influenced you musically to be where you are. Well, we did 423 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,079 mention mister Bungle. However, there's a lot more. I'm a huge Rush 424 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,519 fan. So my son is actually here in studio with us, and he 425 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,159 is eleven years old and his name is Neil, after Neil Peartt. And 426 00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:40,360 if you ever see a car driving around with the license plate YYZ Rush, 427 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,840 that's me. So I'm a huge Rush fan. So I'm into like, 428 00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:49,159 you know, progressive stuff and whatever, but I also like, you know, 429 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:55,159 everything from Tom Petty to you know, so many, so many I 430 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,079 can't even but i'd faith no more. I'm a huge fan, Like, 431 00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:05,400 I just love so many weird things, you know, jazz music, Art 432 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,079 Blakey and Miles Davis and you know, just all the great drummers that I'm 433 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:14,400 a drummer like, I love drummers. So yeah, there's like Steve Gadd 434 00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,440 like whatever band he's in, I'm in, Like I love it, you 435 00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:21,400 know, whatever it is. One of my good friends is an amazing fiddle 436 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:27,800 player, Eileen Ivers. She's a huge influence. So many people that I 437 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,079 know personally that are great too. So yeah, it's hard. Yeah, 438 00:36:32,159 --> 00:36:37,599 I'm a I come from like definitely like a punk rock, alternative rock background. 439 00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:43,360 That's what I did like for the last twenty years basically. But I 440 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,960 mean, like, my favorite artists is Tom Waits are none. I've listened 441 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,239 to him forever since I was a kid, So that's going to be a 442 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,639 big influence me. But also I mean, like I don't get to do 443 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,840 it here much, but I mean like noise rock. I love Death from 444 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,679 Above nineteen seventy nine stuff like that. But I mean, yeah, also, 445 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,840 I mean originally this was going to be like they said, Americana Country, 446 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,760 yeah, which like I haven't done that yet. Yeah, I should 447 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,360 get I should dip my toes and get that done. So that's a lot 448 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,760 of the reason I signed on, because I haven't been doing a whole lot 449 00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:22,199 recently and what I did do wasn't really working out for me. So I'm 450 00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,000 just gonna say screw it and try something. So yeah, that's why I'm 451 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,519 me. And that's what's so cool about this this trio is that we come 452 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:35,320 from some different places and and you know, we all appreciate everything we've and 453 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,800 we've been playing covers a lot, and we you know, we played covers 454 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,320 enough to we know what covers work, and we know that we're also into 455 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,360 hip hop, so like, you know, we know when we play live 456 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,159 stuff, we do a lot of hip hop, a lot of funk, 457 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440 you know, stuff that people can dance to, and so we love that 458 00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:55,679 stuff. And then I think we like all the darker stuff too, you 459 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,360 know, anything with minor Chords, Radiohead, you know, stuff like that 460 00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,840 we're totally into as well. But you know, he comes from the Tom 461 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,199 Waite stuff, and I'm from the like progressive stuff, and then damage this 462 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,920 I don't even know. Actually, I'm yeah, you know, you know 463 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:15,360 one of my It's very interesting. I'd like to tell you something. So 464 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:21,239 I've been playing music for ever, and like I said, since I came 465 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,880 out the womb. I made some noises then and been still doing them. 466 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,280 I just made that noise this morning, same exact noise, and it sounds 467 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:38,199 like no So I love Woody Guthrie and and I just I just thought he 468 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,840 was amazing. I've been very I have a large family, and they would 469 00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:46,360 blast music all the time, so you'd hear Frank Sinatra, boys to men, 470 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:52,440 new kids on the block, Allison Chane's sound guard, and everybody listened 471 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:58,079 to different things, Bruce Springsteen and and then when I started to kind of 472 00:38:58,159 --> 00:39:00,679 develop my own taste listening to what he got there, I love that old 473 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,960 timey. I just love everything about him. I just thought it was fascinating 474 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,599 how he lived and how he traveled the United States, and and just just 475 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:15,719 sat with people in a room and freaking wrote a song with them about their 476 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,880 heritage. Austrian immigrants in the Great Depression didn't matter to have. He's like, 477 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,400 we're gonna this is That's how we developed. And so I really took 478 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,559 that as kind of a I've written over twelve hundred songs. Wow, never 479 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,320 written a lie. That is the truth he really has. Yeah, it's 480 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:37,280 insane. They're not all great, but that's true too. Out of twelve 481 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,400 hundred, it was about three decent ones and you have them all here today, 482 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,719 Matt. Okay, we saved them for you. One thing, one 483 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,880 thing about what I love about Dan is that his ability to tell a story 484 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,880 in the song, which I think is really important for people to connect. 485 00:39:55,039 --> 00:40:00,360 Yeah, you have to tell a story that people can and understand the lyrics 486 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,239 and it's not just marbles in your mouth type. You know, I don't 487 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,599 know what that guy said, because people connect with that. I mean, 488 00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:09,079 I I'm not I hardly. I listened to drums and I listened to bass. 489 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:14,840 Yeah, And now that I've you know, understand the importance of the 490 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,719 story behind the song. It really connects people to the song. So like, 491 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,719 I love that about Dan, Thank you do that. So the thing 492 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,559 is, there was something that happened with me about ten years ago where I 493 00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:31,159 got I started writing songs for songs of Love Foundation and it's for kids with 494 00:40:31,519 --> 00:40:37,360 cancer, leukemia, different illnesses. They get requests through Make a Wish, 495 00:40:37,559 --> 00:40:42,920 Give Kids the World and directly through hospitals and hospice. And and the first 496 00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:47,320 song that I I thought I was I was heard on Reverb Nation on the 497 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:52,119 World Music things. I was writing some really artistic stuff that I thought was 498 00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:57,400 Amazingah yeah. And then and someone listened to it and he thought I was 499 00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,840 funny, and I was like, you think I'm funny? I was like 500 00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,559 serious, But he was like, could you write a song for a kid? 501 00:41:02,599 --> 00:41:06,199 And I was like sure, And he was kind of testing me out, 502 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,400 and he had me rewrite it about ten times to get out of the 503 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,079 way of the song. And he's like, you know, the kid that's 504 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,079 listening to this is eight, is going into dialysis a couple of times a 505 00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,599 week, driving with their parents to the hospital. They're going to listen to 506 00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:24,239 the song to and from you know, wow. Yeah. Yeah, So 507 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,440 I've done a few hundred for them. Yeah. Once again, Dan is 508 00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:32,440 one of the nicest people I've ever met. Well, but but it helped. 509 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,920 It helped me in a big way because I was like, I'm going 510 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,559 to get out of the way of the song. I'm going to get out 511 00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:44,079 of the way of the song. And then I meet this gentleman who's like, 512 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,840 why are you singing like that? Can't you just be yourself? And 513 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:52,440 I'm like, who's myself? Right right? I don't And then here we 514 00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,280 are. Yeah, this is this is like one of those things. I 515 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,599 would sing Hi, I would sing lo, I would sing like a Disney 516 00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,559 guy. I would sing you know, I would do I don't even I 517 00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:05,800 don't know. It was almost like an impression, like I'm going home great. 518 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,960 I would do a reggae voice baby toms to what. I'm very bad 519 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,480 at all of them. The only voice I'm good at is the is Muddy 520 00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:22,480 Waters when I was a young man, you know. But no, but 521 00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:28,440 that's so so my influence. I'm very I'm really influenced by moments and by 522 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,559 like the the whatever we're doing, and I capture it like a picture in 523 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:36,559 my mind. And then that's why I write the lyrics or a poem or 524 00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:42,599 something like that. And then and then my vocal influence has been from Greg 525 00:42:43,159 --> 00:42:46,480 my drummer, who doesn't let me go crazy. I just don't let him 526 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,360 get away with anything. Yeah, So it's very very helpful. And I've 527 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,760 had great music teacher, Mark Baxter, he's my vocal coach. Is amazing. 528 00:42:54,119 --> 00:43:00,519 He's actually these Greg and Mark Baxter would get along famously like why like 529 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:02,800 that, don't do that. I'm like, I don't know if you shouldn't 530 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,760 sing that song? And I take it. My wife is really a great 531 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,159 singer. And she is you know, she'll listen to things and and her 532 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:14,679 and I kind of agree on a lot of it. So we we've listened 533 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,320 to stuff that Dan has done and like, oh, we just got to 534 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,880 get him to go here, you know, and then and then it's perfect. 535 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,039 And luckily, well he's been so good. I mean, he's just 536 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,719 Dan. It's just awesome. I'm a good boy. But he but he 537 00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:31,079 for this particular recording, he just hit it right the nail on the head, 538 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:34,320 like it was like perfect the whole way through. And I was like, 539 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,519 oh, man, you're that's your that's your sweet spot, man, 540 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,239 that's the money right there, that's the money spot. Well, gentlemen, 541 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,199 this has been uh, this has been fantastic. I wish we had more 542 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,840 time. I'd love to talk to you some more, but we are we 543 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,239 are approaching the top. Of the hour, but we are going to finish 544 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:57,119 out with this track Tennessee by by Run Like Thieves, who are our guests 545 00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,239 in this hour, and it's been wonderful having you guys on and Abe. 546 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,800 It's great to see you, my friend, I've known you a long time. 547 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,400 Yeah, good to see you too many. Yeah, good to see 548 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,039 you and wonderful to meet you guys. Wonderful. Thank you so much for 549 00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,760 having us. Please, though, before we before we hit this track Tennessee, 550 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,639 remind our listeners where they should go online to keep up with everything, 551 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,559 so you can go to a run Like Thieves dot com. You can find 552 00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:24,519 us on all streaming platforms, everything from Spotify to Apple Music to YouTube. 553 00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:29,480 We also have a YouTube channel, Run Like Thieves, which is connected to 554 00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,599 Dan and my own channel as well, which we're currently building. Is brand 555 00:44:32,639 --> 00:44:36,960 new, so it's not like a crazy amount of views and subscribers, but 556 00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:39,840 it's getting there for a couple of days that it's been open. And Facebook, 557 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,639 obviously, Instagram, pretty much any social media, but we are the 558 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,800 only run Like Thieves band that exists. We did check that and so we're 559 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,880 super happy that we actually trademarked Pendley. We trademarked it and guitars, and 560 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,960 we got the website. So but yeah, so that's basically I think everywhere 561 00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:01,960 that you can find us where and of course whatever Dan mentioned as far as 562 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,280 our live stuff, Run Like Thieves Band is the Instagram handle and Facebook candle 563 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,320 I believe Run Like Thieves band. Yeah, and and but yes, please 564 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,440 go to our YouTube Run Like Thieves and subscribe, and yeah, we like 565 00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:22,480 YouTube. And this is such a special day because we're releasing these songs with 566 00:45:22,559 --> 00:45:24,039 you. Thank you so much for having us to do. This is amazing 567 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,719 and and if you subscribe to our YouTube you'll see our beautiful videos, yes, 568 00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:36,280 as they get released for these unreleased songs that we played here today. 569 00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:39,320 Yep, awesome, awesome, Thank you guys. This has been this has 570 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,960 been absolutely amazing, and so we will close out this segment stick around. 571 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,480 We've got Charlie from Rolling Exile coming up in the second hour. He's going 572 00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:50,039 to be skyping in all the way from London. But we're going to close 573 00:45:50,039 --> 00:45:52,840 out this segment with another great studio track from these guys. This is called 574 00:45:52,880 --> 00:46:13,559 Tennessee Run Like Thieves. Check it out. Mmm mmmmm six sulcol Fool Zamie 575 00:46:13,639 --> 00:46:24,559 and the Osha Bacon, California saw the Tanna lines Expose you lost, Pampel 576 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:42,360 de Vosa, Hallie Lujah here sheep gone, watch need's watch Sydney's turna see 577 00:46:46,239 --> 00:47:06,440 watch she leaves watched Sydney's Tennessee s by yall up and the children lead the 578 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:17,599 stricken child fob said, it is long. We gotta leave. I know 579 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:37,079 it s no watch you do. Just watch your JC she watch you just 580 00:47:37,159 --> 00:48:25,119 watch your j s. What's your lead as watch your JeOS? What's yours? 581 00:48:25,239 --> 00:49:13,119 Watch her jerous watching? What what whattch watch Jesus Chao down by age 582 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:30,679 jam down my lad? What is you're looking for? You backfire? You 583 00:49:31,199 --> 00:49:52,320 roun five jem the Holly's the lads coming up? Child? They killing man. 584 00:49:54,039 --> 00:50:10,760 It's enough, it's enough. No, it's what you're looking for and 585 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:40,719 your lie your life. Oh it's getting shown. Still your eye that that 586 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:55,639 we thought it If your adsease it please and if I find what I'm looking 587 00:50:55,880 --> 00:52:05,559 for, talk the board. It's the sud school chest move my child, 588 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:28,960 don't li li no, it's what you're looking for in your life. Your 589 00:52:29,199 --> 00:52:55,039 life, Oh job, it's gill show Still your life now that we are, 590 00:53:00,199 --> 00:53:15,679 you don't sas you if I find what I'm looking really hard to be 591 00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:35,559 oh instead of you the love had your other, it's still well, you 592 00:53:35,880 --> 00:54:22,760 know it being as I think that is a beautiful song. Tear Down Angel 593 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:28,639 from of course Rolling Exile, and we have we have them on Skype, 594 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,719 I believe, Charlie from Rolling Exile, Charlie, are you there? Can 595 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,519 you hear me? Yes? I can? And but it's it's it's always 596 00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:42,639 a relief when it works out on Skype, when it's transcontinental, because it 597 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:47,000 doesn't it doesn't always work out technologically. Uh so I'm so glad. Yeah, 598 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,920 that is a that is an amazing song. We're gonna be you know, 599 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,360 you send us a bunch of tracks. We're gonna play some more later. 600 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,119 But that that's just a beautiful song. Charlie, I love that. 601 00:54:57,079 --> 00:55:01,519 Thank you. That's that's really appreciate it. Yeah, it's off the latest 602 00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:07,599 album we recorded last year, weather Change album. But yeah, thank you 603 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,679 so much. Yeah, yeah, no, my pleasure really really good. 604 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,039 Yes, Jenny is here well and of course if you're just joining us here 605 00:55:14,119 --> 00:55:19,360 on Matt Connorton Unleashed, we are joined via Skype by Charlie from how do 606 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,639 you say your last name? Charlie? Is it Hallanan? You got to 607 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:28,559 have to be right, I can't even pronounce it myself. All right, 608 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:34,440 excellent, We've got Charlie hallenon from Rolling Exile skyping in all the way from 609 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:40,079 London. And now, so this album Weather Change did this come out? 610 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,159 Is this a recent release or has this been out for a little bit. 611 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:50,159 Yeah, we've finished recording it. Just trying to think. I think it 612 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,360 was around about May or June of last year, that's right, Yeah, 613 00:55:54,519 --> 00:56:02,519 and then it was basically released late September of last year. Yeah, And 614 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,280 tell me a little bit if you could about Roll in Exile because it's it's 615 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,639 a band, but it's really you're you're the nucleus of it, right, 616 00:56:10,679 --> 00:56:21,639 it's your project essentially. Yeah, the i'd actually left the music business. 617 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,440 I mean there's a lot more to I guess my my history going back to 618 00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:31,400 Dublin and you know, deputizing for Larry Mullins once on You two tour of 619 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,719 the band that I was in. But that's that's maybe for another conversation. 620 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,960 But there was a band, well, there's there's still an existence called the 621 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:51,719 Boomtown Rats, and they were probably the sort of the ones that really opened 622 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:57,320 the doors for Irish musicians because I grew up in Dublin, although being born 623 00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,320 in London but from the age of two, so I really consider myself more 624 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:07,559 Irish than you know, English, but not that it matters. But this 625 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:13,360 friend of mine, Gary Roberts, he was the lead guitarist in the Boomtown 626 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,199 Rats and I'd left the music business for twenty odd years, I think, 627 00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:24,320 and I just got this opportunity to go out and support the Boomtown Rats on 628 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,840 a short tour in Europe, just totally out of the blue. I mean, 629 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,920 it was just one of those kind of moments in life where he's just 630 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:36,360 thinking, oh, okay, well I might as well do it because I'll 631 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:40,440 probably never get the opportunity again. And that led to me writing again. 632 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,159 And cut a long story short, I did my foot recording my first album 633 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:52,760 after that tour and realized after the album that because it was really I was 634 00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:58,559 really just solo acoustic guitar, vocal guitar, you know, that's what I 635 00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:01,800 was doing at the time. But you know, after the album realized you 636 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,079 know, there's drums and this, keyboards and this and this that, and 637 00:58:06,159 --> 00:58:09,119 I thought, okay, well, I think better put a band together if 638 00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:15,519 I've got to you know actually you know, you know, tour tour or 639 00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:21,079 do do shows to promote the album. So that was the start of it. 640 00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:27,320 And I put a band together, and yeah, it's it's I guess 641 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,239 it is. It is my my my kind of project if you like. 642 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:37,559 But you know, band members are very important and it's some you know, 643 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:42,119 boy, if I could, I could put a family tree together with the 644 00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:45,119 amount of band members that have gone through the revolving doors. But you know, 645 00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:50,800 you eventually then settle if you're lucky enough with some band members that you 646 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:54,159 know, you can actually grow together and you know, band's ideas. But 647 00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:02,880 yeah, I mean the straight answer is I'm the sengwriter and lyric writer and 648 00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:10,119 you know, basically the band just you know, play the play the tunes 649 00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:14,000 as it were. But but they have an input. You know, they'll 650 00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:16,400 suggest something and they'll say, oh, you know, maybe we could you 651 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,480 know, move that and put that there and whatever, and sometimes you know, 652 00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:24,840 it works. You know, we're very democratic in in the in the 653 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,920 band. There's there's no sort of dictator if you like, you know, 654 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,760 yeah, yeah, I'm fascinated that you actually left the music business for for 655 00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,760 a couple of decades. And part part of why it surprises me in this 656 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,280 sense because when I when I see you, you know, your online presentation, 657 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,039 I look at the pictures and I watched the video for example, Jenny 658 00:59:47,079 --> 00:59:52,000 and I watched of you performing good Morning London with another great song. By 659 00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:54,960 the way, I love that song. We'll probably play that later. Thank 660 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,880 you. But I but I I look at you and it's like you you 661 00:59:59,159 --> 01:00:04,280 seem like you just look like a rock star. Like and it's like and 662 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,639 I look at you, and I hear you say that you left the music 663 01:00:06,679 --> 01:00:09,199 business for twenty years, and I'm thinking, how could this guy have ever 664 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,920 left? Because this is what you should be doing, because just just I 665 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,880 mean not just are the songs great, but also just visually like you, 666 01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,400 you look like, you know, like I can't imagine you. I don't 667 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,559 know what you were doing for that twenty years, but I'm very curious why 668 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,280 why did you leave? Well, well, thank you very much for the 669 01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:36,280 rock star It's true. It's true. Though, it's true. I'll take 670 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,239 it if I can get it. Yeah, yeah, don't get don't get 671 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:44,760 that many compliments but no, Yeah, basically what happened is just going back 672 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,159 to Dublin for a minute. The band that I was in I was a 673 01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,800 drummer and ourselves. It was a band called Berlin and not not to be 674 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:59,280 confused with the one from Top Gun right, and we were a sort of 675 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,920 two up and coming bands. In fact, we were the first to get 676 01:01:04,199 --> 01:01:08,960 a number one in Ireland and we're the first to sign with an English company, 677 01:01:09,039 --> 01:01:13,559 which was a big deal in those days, you know, for for 678 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:20,119 Irish bands, because it was very very difficult, you know, and you 679 01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:22,840 know, I've been through several bands before Berlin, and we're about to go 680 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,199 in and record the album and then we split up, and I just thought, 681 01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:31,280 you know what, I've had enough of this. And I was sitting 682 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,800 in Dublin after the band had split up, and I was thinking what am 683 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,039 I going to do. My family had actually moved to America, so I 684 01:01:38,199 --> 01:01:42,800 was thinking I might go over there. But then again, and then I 685 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,079 got this phone call from a sound engineer, a good friend of mine. 686 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:51,039 He's he's done everybody from the Rolling Stones, the team, the Turner. 687 01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:54,480 He's like a live engineer and he just called me a fellow irishman. He 688 01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:58,000 goes, what are you doing and I said, well nothing. He said, 689 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,159 well, I've got a job for you and I said great and I 690 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,199 said He said, yeah, tickically at the airport for you tomorrow and we'll 691 01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:07,400 see you in London tomorrow afternoon. And I said, well, what about 692 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,639 my drum kit and he said, now, no, you won't need that. 693 01:02:12,039 --> 01:02:13,920 And I said, well, what, We're going to hire one and 694 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,119 he said, no, you're not playing drums. And I said, wait 695 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:21,400 a minute. What is this job? He said guitar roadie and I was 696 01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:24,679 like, oh what. Well. I was a bit of a not a 697 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,880 private donna, but it was like after coming out of a band with our 698 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:30,800 own road crew, and I was thinking, ah, I said how much 699 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,000 is it a week? And he said whatever it was, I said, 700 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,440 all right, I'll be there. Yeah. And it was really as a 701 01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:42,599 stop gap. I just needed to just sort of clear my head. I'd 702 01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:45,800 had, you know, given you know, my life for the last five 703 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:51,960 years to different bands and the disappointments and the ups and downs, and then 704 01:02:52,920 --> 01:03:00,480 after i'd done guitar roady or guitar tech whichever the they category as it has, 705 01:03:00,639 --> 01:03:04,559 and did that from maybe eight or nine years and travel the world. 706 01:03:04,639 --> 01:03:07,280 It was great. I worked for lots of different bands. I worked for 707 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:12,760 a company that supplied crew, you know, and a good learning experience, 708 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,320 and then I got into photography. I mean, the whole thing is pretty 709 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:22,639 bizarre, and I ended up working for some big rock magazines, you know, 710 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:29,199 just purely life is funny sometimes like that, and you know, anyway, 711 01:03:30,199 --> 01:03:34,719 and then, as I say, then I got this opportunity in twenty 712 01:03:35,159 --> 01:03:37,280 ten, my friend Gary called me. He said, look, we need 713 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:43,360 a support band. Have pulled out. And I don't be ridiculous, I 714 01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,800 said, I haven't played for twenty odd years. And even then I wasn't 715 01:03:46,119 --> 01:03:50,039 really a singer songwriter. I was a drummer, you know, back back 716 01:03:50,159 --> 01:03:54,559 in my you know, my kind of first music music days. So you 717 01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:59,519 know, it's life is a funny thing, but you know, you kind 718 01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:02,800 of you go from one thing to another and then actually end up back with 719 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,480 the thing that you love. But I must admit I never actually thought of 720 01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:14,480 myself, you know, as a writer or as a perform you know, 721 01:04:14,679 --> 01:04:17,119 a singer. I get away with it. But you know, there's a 722 01:04:17,199 --> 01:04:20,519 lot, a lot more, you know, a lot better singers out there, 723 01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:26,039 you know, obviously, but you know, it works, you know, 724 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,679 and that's that's that's pretty much it. I think. Let's just say 725 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,199 I got I got into it by got back into it by by chance in 726 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:39,360 a sense. You know. Yeah, yeah, well you kind of went 727 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,119 where the road took you. It sounds like, yeah, exactly, yeah, 728 01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:45,679 yeah, the road. Yeah, and you know, and you never 729 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,360 I mean, it sounds like too, like you never really fully disconnected because 730 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,920 you were still doing things musically, even when you were, you know, 731 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,159 working for for rock magazines. You know, you're still you're you're you're still 732 01:04:56,199 --> 01:04:59,920 in the mix in that sense, so you're still well, yeah, you're 733 01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,920 you're you're still a part of it all. But yeah, it was funny, 734 01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:08,800 yeah, because in a way because when I started so it was actually 735 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:15,519 in the fashion I was doing shots for editorial magazines and models agencies and stuff 736 01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:20,800 like that, and then it led into rock magazines and and I kind of 737 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:25,079 thought, yeah, how funny. It's it's kind of has gone a bit 738 01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:28,880 of a full circle in the center. I'm still connected to music, you 739 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,360 know, And but yeah, that's that's kind of how how it evolved. 740 01:05:33,519 --> 01:05:40,280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, how did the uh getting to perform? Uh? 741 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:45,440 Good Morning London on television like that. That was pretty cool. Were 742 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:50,760 you Is that kind of the the I mean that's I assume that show that 743 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,079 you were on, it looked like it it probably had a pretty big audience. 744 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,079 How does how does something like that come about where you get to do 745 01:05:58,199 --> 01:06:01,159 that, because that's that's a big deal. Well, it was it really, 746 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:08,880 I mean that that was actually a promo, a promo, actual video, 747 01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:15,480 but it was syndicated or whatever you want to call it to certain small 748 01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:20,079 stations, you know, and purely that was just from literally, you know, 749 01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:24,320 the old expression knocking on the door and saying, look, you know, 750 01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:28,639 we're a band. We've got this, and you know say, out 751 01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:30,719 of every ten people you try, you might get one, you know, 752 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,280 And it's kind of it's like that for a lot of us, you know. 753 01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:40,639 I was listening to the guys is It Run like Thieves? Yea, 754 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,679 that they were on earlier. I really enjoyed this stuff, by the way, 755 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,239 and I found a lot of similarities in what they were talking about, 756 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:53,480 you know, being an original band, and it is tough when you're trying 757 01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:59,679 to you know, you don't have a record company behind you or a kind 758 01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:04,519 of any kind of you know, at least sort of mid midweight management or 759 01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:09,519 something. You know, you're doing it all yourself, really, you know, 760 01:07:10,639 --> 01:07:14,639 Yeah, it's I often say, and this is you know, obviously 761 01:07:14,719 --> 01:07:17,039 we speak with a lot of musicians, so that it's kind of a one 762 01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:21,519 of the recurring themes on this show in our conversations is about how how the 763 01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:26,679 industry has changed and and it's now, you know, we live in an 764 01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:30,079 era where you really can do it all yourself. You can you can connect 765 01:07:30,119 --> 01:07:36,360 directly with with fans and listeners because of the Internet, and you know, 766 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,320 and of course when I was growing up and you were growing up, we 767 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,679 didn't have that, and so it's yeah, you know, and in some 768 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,519 ways, I mean, it's it's a blessing and a curse. I suppose 769 01:07:45,559 --> 01:07:49,119 it's a curse in the sense that you know, you're competing with everything. 770 01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:54,760 You know, you're literally competing with everything else that's online. But at the 771 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,920 same time, if what you're doing is really good quality and and presented well, 772 01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:01,800 you know, you can you can cut through a lot of that and 773 01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:10,679 find success without a record label. Doing all of the terrible things and some 774 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,320 good things too, but all of the terrible things that's it's sometimes a record 775 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,600 label does to somebody, to an artist. Sure, yeah, no, 776 01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:21,199 absolutely, And I actually like what you said, you know, blessing and 777 01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:26,520 a curse, and you know, it's what I actually feel about it a 778 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,920 lot of the time. I mean I think for me, what I find, 779 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,720 you know, the biggest irritation or kind of it just SAPs me sometimes, 780 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,680 you know, because you're I'm running the kind of show in the sense 781 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,960 of doing all the media, and I'm not doing it particularly well because in 782 01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:48,159 this day and age, you know, you've got these kids out there that 783 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:53,640 can just you know, what would take me a week to do, they 784 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,680 would probably do it in about two hours, you know, and not only 785 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,920 that, you know, probably get you another ten thousand followers. I haven't 786 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:08,720 the first idea really, I mean, it's just finding the time because when 787 01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,199 you're doing you're doing the media, you're doing the videos because I edit the 788 01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:17,600 videos to promote from promo things, and it's just endless, you know, 789 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:23,479 And I sometimes finally sit down and go, I wonder, fun I'm going 790 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:29,359 to actually have time to pick up the guitar and writing the song right right, 791 01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,319 But it is what it is, you know. Do you feel a 792 01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:36,840 certain I mean, I I know on that subject, as far as you 793 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,439 know, being able to put content out there, you know, I mean, 794 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,119 that's that's that's really what it is. Ultimately, it's all content. 795 01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:45,159 Do you feel a certain a certain pressure, because I think I think about 796 01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:50,840 this a lot. I feel I feel a certain pressure to try to really 797 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:57,640 stay on top of what everyone's doing. And part of this too relates to 798 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,840 the work that I do. But there's a there's there's us a pressure to 799 01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:02,920 you don't want to fall behind. You don't want to get left behind. 800 01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:05,399 And and you don't you know, you don't want to be the guy who 801 01:10:08,119 --> 01:10:13,640 uh can't promote what he's doing because he just has no idea and and and 802 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,960 sometimes by the way, people much younger uh even fall into that because they 803 01:10:17,079 --> 01:10:20,960 they feel overwhelmed by it all. But but but I feel like there's a 804 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,560 pressure to try to keep up with it all because the technology moves so fast 805 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,319 and and uh, all of us were where it's like we're all on the 806 01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,680 uh, on the precipice of just getting getting left behind if we don't really 807 01:10:33,199 --> 01:10:35,439 keep up. And it sounds like you are keeping up, like you said, 808 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,399 I mean, you're doing it all you know, you're editing the videos 809 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,680 yourself and whatnot, so you're you're, you're, you're. It sounds like 810 01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:44,880 you're pretty much on top of it. But but there's a pressure that comes 811 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:49,199 with that, right, Yeah, it's it's interesting you bring that up, 812 01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:55,239 actually, because I to be honest, you know, I mean, what 813 01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,840 I what I actually achieve is probably the bare minimum, even though it's a 814 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,119 massive struggle for me, but it just about media wise, keeps my head 815 01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:10,479 above water. It could be a lot better, and it could be I 816 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,239 could have a lot more followers and likes and this, that and the other, 817 01:11:14,399 --> 01:11:19,199 but you know, it's just I think it's probably because I'm more focused 818 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:25,920 on getting out doing it live because we have you know, we have a 819 01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:31,720 good following in Europe, mainly in Germany, but we're kind of working in 820 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,279 other areas. But you know, it gets to a point. I mean, 821 01:11:35,279 --> 01:11:40,199 I'll give you an example, it gets ridiculous sometimes. When we were 822 01:11:40,319 --> 01:11:46,920 touring last year, a fellow musician came up to me friend, and he 823 01:11:47,079 --> 01:11:51,640 was a bit you know, unhappy. I was kind of thinking, you 824 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,239 know, what's going on here, you know, and he goes, oh, 825 01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:00,159 I see you're you're not on media, I don't know what. He 826 01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:03,840 referred to Facebook much and I said, well, what do you mean He 827 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,359 said, well, I don't know. He said, you you haven't liked 828 01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:12,520 any of my stuff. And I'm like, I just wanted to say, 829 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,520 you know, actually there's more to life than you know, spending your whole 830 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,600 day thinking, oh God, I didn't like so and so's things, and 831 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,359 I didn't like this. It's like, for God's sake, you know, 832 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,680 it's like, you know, get a life, you know. But you 833 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,439 know, that's the way some people, you know, they're so you know, 834 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,079 steeved in it, you know, and it's like, you know, 835 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:40,880 why don't you just you know, relax back off that and just enjoy your 836 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,199 music, you know. But you know, as I say, you have 837 01:12:43,319 --> 01:12:47,199 to do a certain amount. But sometimes it just people just turn into you 838 01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:51,600 know, it becomes manic, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I mean 839 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,199 that's kind of the dark side of it. Yeah, some people, it 840 01:12:56,319 --> 01:13:00,760 does. It does consume them in terms of uh now, in terms of 841 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,359 recording because you know, you obviously you you you play multiple instruments. You 842 01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:09,880 know, you play drums, you play guitar, et cetera. Are you 843 01:13:10,079 --> 01:13:14,199 on on the recordings? Does your band record with you or does your band 844 01:13:14,399 --> 01:13:16,920 just play with you live, because it seems like you're probably in a position 845 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:24,680 where you can record everything yourself. No. We we we both record together 846 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:30,920 and play live. I mean the I would never you know, some people 847 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,640 can do it, but I'm not good enough to, you know, be 848 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:42,840 a multi instrumentalist. You know, I just need to focus on one thing, 849 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:48,720 which is which is basically rhythm guitar. But what's important, I think 850 01:13:49,039 --> 01:13:57,560 is, you know, you've got to still maintain some you know, modicum 851 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,319 of kind of soul. What I mean by soul and the recording is that 852 01:14:02,119 --> 01:14:08,159 by doing everything yourself, especially in this digital age, because it's so easy 853 01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:12,520 to do this, that and the other, you know, in logic or 854 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,600 pro tools or whatever you're using to record on. I you know, I 855 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:25,760 just find it really important that you can hear it when you hear a recorded 856 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,560 track come back. Well, certainly I can anyway, you know that when 857 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,359 it's a bunch of musicians and they're tight and they're enjoying it, you know, 858 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:38,640 it comes across, you know, in the I'll give you an example. 859 01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:45,720 It was after the second album, the Hardline album. I'd had enough 860 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,399 of all this nonsense of spending two days making up the drum kit and this 861 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,520 and then that and then all the rest of it. So when we came 862 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,960 in to do I've got a great producer. I mean, he's brilliant. 863 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,840 And when we came in to do the third album, I said, right, 864 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:01,640 that's it. I said, we're going back to the seventies and he 865 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,680 kind of looked at me. It's like what I said, drunkard. You 866 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:11,439 know, Glynn John's my technique. He's a producer. He did a lot 867 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:15,439 of people. I can't remember the bands off hand, I think with Zeppelin 868 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,359 and The Stones or whatever, but just two overheads, snare and bass, 869 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:24,079 that's it. We get on with it. And what it also did was 870 01:15:24,119 --> 01:15:29,640 I got the bass player and drummer to actually play together as they were recording. 871 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,600 Yeah, which is pretty much the way we used to do it. 872 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:40,359 And obviously the rest then came on later. But what what we I achieved 873 01:15:40,399 --> 01:15:45,239 the result that I really wanted because when you listen to two records, maybe 874 01:15:45,319 --> 01:15:49,479 going back to seventies or whatever, there's that space, you know, between 875 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:54,399 the instruments. It's also the groove, the feel of it. There's there's 876 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:58,680 a human element in it, you know, you can it really comes across 877 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:04,520 and you know, that's that's where we That was the direction that we started 878 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:10,439 going in and hopefully that you know, also came across in the in the 879 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:15,239 in the Weather Change album. But you know, it's it's really down to 880 01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:18,319 the individual. The other thing that I used to just speaking of space and 881 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,840 the and the you know, the kind of feeling of of that, you 882 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:29,159 know, separation between the instruments. I don't mean separation in disjointed. I 883 01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:32,000 just been in the sense of, you know, you can hear everything, 884 01:16:32,079 --> 01:16:36,039 it's balanced, you know. I don't know when it started happening my v 885 01:16:38,279 --> 01:16:41,760 eight nine years ago, but there was this you know, mad frenzy to 886 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:45,920 compress the hell out of everything so that there was no headroom left in anything, 887 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,399 in any recordings, so there was no space. And I remember saying 888 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:55,439 to my producer, I said, I do not want this compressed, you 889 01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,119 know, right, I said, We're gonna leave headroom because I want to 890 01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:03,479 hear that space. So yeah, recording is it's it's interesting you kind of 891 01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:08,199 learn as you go along, but I guess you need to have a basic 892 01:17:08,359 --> 01:17:11,760 idea of what you want to start with, you know. Yeah, I 893 01:17:12,199 --> 01:17:15,159 know what to mean though about the compression, and there was a I cannot, 894 01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:17,439 for the life of me remember what album it is, but I remember 895 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,520 Jesus might have been twenty years ago. Actually, there was a Metallica album 896 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:29,039 that came out that people were complaining about because, you know, because everything 897 01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:31,720 just the way it was mixed, like everything just peaked and it was just, 898 01:17:32,119 --> 01:17:35,319 yeah, it was just too much. It sounded horrible, and I 899 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:41,800 think they ended up re releasing it a different mix of that album because because 900 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:46,039 yeah, you're right, everything's overcompressed. And my biggest complaint over the Passcades 901 01:17:46,079 --> 01:17:50,920 has been the way the way guitars are recorded and the way they sound. 902 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:57,920 Now it's it's very guitars just don't sound like they used to do on a 903 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,239 lot of records. But you know, but uh, yeah, every everything 904 01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:05,800 changes and evolves. But uh but I think the sound that you captured on 905 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:10,520 Weather Change, I think is really good. It's it's it's just really really 906 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,880 good. And the songs are great too, which obviously helps. Oh, 907 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,720 thank you. Yeah, it's it's you know, I mean a lot of 908 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:26,880 credit to the producer Alessio Gavello. He's uh, I've worked with him actually 909 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,840 on all the four albums that I've done. And funny, you know, 910 01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:32,640 people say, oh, you know, maybe you should try a different producer, 911 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,840 you know, get a different sound. I can. I can kind 912 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:40,199 of understand that. But you know, there's also the the opposite, which 913 01:18:40,319 --> 01:18:42,520 is, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You 914 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,399 know, it's like it works, you know absolutely. Oh, by the 915 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,520 way, our friend Nick Murdoch in the chat room says, Maddie, the 916 01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:54,039 Metallica album you're thinking of is Death Magnetic? Yes, thank you Nick, 917 01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:57,880 Yeah, Death Magnetic. Yeah. And I was working in a music store 918 01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:02,279 when that came out, and uh yeah, people would I do remember that 919 01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:06,359 vaguely. I mean, I'm not sort of a Metallica listener. Yeah, 920 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,960 but I do remember some of the guys, I know, maybe even in 921 01:19:12,039 --> 01:19:15,520 the band they were talking about it and saying, my god, you know 922 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,119 what they've done whatever. But you know, but yeah, I guess yeah, 923 01:19:19,239 --> 01:19:24,079 that was a bit of a yeah or whatever. But they you say 924 01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:27,399 they re recorded it, Yeah, I think they did. I think they. 925 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,199 I think they re released it with a different mix. I'm not positive 926 01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:32,880 on that though, but but I'll tell you what, I definitely recall is. 927 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:35,760 I remember at least one person bringing it into the store and saying, 928 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:42,880 I think there's something wrong with the CD. It's like, uh no, 929 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,760 no, it's it's believe it or not, it's supposed to sound that way. 930 01:19:47,279 --> 01:19:55,560 It's oh dear. Yeah. Well, Metallica has had a few actually, 931 01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,319 if you think about it, over the course of their career. I 932 01:19:57,359 --> 01:19:59,520 mean, they're the biggest rock band in the world, but they've had a 933 01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,159 few mishaps. You know, they had a couple albums where you could barely 934 01:20:02,199 --> 01:20:06,600 hear the bass. Oh, and Legion of Solace in the chat room says 935 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,840 I thought you were referring to the beer keg snare tuning on Saint Anger. 936 01:20:12,279 --> 01:20:17,119 No, but that's that's another example of a very poor choice recording. The 937 01:20:17,279 --> 01:20:24,039 drums on Saint Anger sound horrendous. But who can argue with success? Right? 938 01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:27,640 They really are the biggest band in the world. Yeah, well, 939 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:30,760 yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's it. Who are by the way, 940 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,199 Charlie, So who are some of your influences? And I'm particularly interested to 941 01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:38,640 ask you this question because in reading about you online, I know that you 942 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:43,000 were born in London, but then you grew up in Dublin and an interview 943 01:20:43,079 --> 01:20:48,199 that I had read, you seem to indicate that it sounded like being in 944 01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:53,000 Dublin really kind of like you feel that that influenced your sound, and so 945 01:20:53,359 --> 01:21:00,880 I'm really curious to hear about where your sound comes from. Well, I 946 01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:04,399 guess, uh, I don't know Dublin as I say, you know, 947 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:09,880 in the Dublin days when I was in bands, you know, being a 948 01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:15,399 drummer, and I've written a few things, but I've never even sort of 949 01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,960 presenting them to the band. There were just something that I was doing, 950 01:21:18,279 --> 01:21:21,680 you know, quietly in the background, you know, and then I just 951 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,239 completely left it because I just kind of thought, oh, you know, 952 01:21:25,319 --> 01:21:27,680 who am I kidding? You know, I just thought this is all rubbish 953 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:33,840 that I'm writing, you know. But I think if you're asking about, 954 01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:41,439 you know, where the kind of I guess, yeah, you could say 955 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:48,079 influences or the feelings that bring about songs, A lot of it subconsciously probably 956 01:21:48,119 --> 01:21:57,880 would root back to to Dublin and Ireland in in those days and some very 957 01:21:58,399 --> 01:22:06,039 you know, very special memories and experiences you know, that I had in 958 01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:12,760 that time. It was a very exciting time actually because it was just literally 959 01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,159 just after punk in in the UK, so you know, you had the 960 01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:23,600 pistols and the Clash and all the rest of them, and then Dublin sort 961 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,800 of it kind of there was a kind of a musical, you know, 962 01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:33,319 almost what happened in London, sort of explosion of these bands just coming out 963 01:22:33,359 --> 01:22:38,159 of nowhere, you know, slightly punky, but a bit more what they 964 01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:43,560 call new wave, so it wasn't so much the kind of a little less 965 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,199 harsh maybe if you like, I don't know how to describe it. But 966 01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,760 and amongst in this melting pot, there was us, there was you two. 967 01:22:53,039 --> 01:22:57,399 There was a whole lot of other great Irish bands that you know, 968 01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:03,279 unfortunately never made it, because you know, it's always a bit of a 969 01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:08,079 lottery, you know, of you know, there were other bands that could 970 01:23:08,119 --> 01:23:12,159 have made it just as big as you two, really really good ones. 971 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:18,239 But you know, it is what it is, and I guess so as 972 01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:24,840 far as my you know, my influences. It's funny because people sometimes they'll 973 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,960 listen to a song and they'll say, oh, I can hear a bit 974 01:23:28,039 --> 01:23:31,720 of Steve Harley. That's he's a guy from an English band called Cotney Revel, 975 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:35,279 or I can hear a bit of I don't Tom Petty or I can 976 01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:42,680 hear a bit of you know whatever. And of course growing up, you 977 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,600 know, when my mom was out, you know, she had this amazing 978 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,920 record collection, everybody from Clapton right through to the Who too, you know, 979 01:23:50,359 --> 01:23:55,800 I mean just about every artist, Santana, you could imagine Creeden's Clear 980 01:23:55,960 --> 01:24:00,640 Order Revival, Zeppelin, blah blah blah goes on. So I sneak in 981 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,520 and I you go through all our albums, and that was kind of my 982 01:24:05,039 --> 01:24:11,439 musical education, if you like. And it was incredible library of you know, 983 01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,920 records that I could could go through, so I guess. And also 984 01:24:15,039 --> 01:24:18,279 growing up as a teenager, you know, your stuff you hear on the 985 01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:25,560 radio, So I think there's bits of that which do come out in my 986 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,359 songs or you know, there's something there that will remind somebody of you know 987 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:35,119 that that, So I guess it would be, you know, the soundtrack 988 01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:40,880 of my life, if you like, comes out in in, in, 989 01:24:41,239 --> 01:24:46,319 in my songs, I suppose, you know. Yeah, And are you 990 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,560 are you playing out? Are you doing a lot of shows? Are you 991 01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:55,560 touring much? Or we just finished? I was in America funny enough actually 992 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,760 for a couple of weeks that back in September, just did a couple of 993 01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,479 sho I was there and then came back to Europe. Well I literally, 994 01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:10,920 yeah, I came back to I think it was about the not the dates 995 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:13,760 matter, but it was literally I was. I was in the US for 996 01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:17,960 August till early September and then straight back to London and then out to Europe, 997 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:24,359 and then we finished that tour at the end of September. And what 998 01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:30,800 we're doing now is we're prepping for the next album, which is a bit 999 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:36,279 of a nightmare because for me anyway, I mean, we picked some of 1000 01:25:36,319 --> 01:25:43,239 the songs, but I was listening to one of the guys in Run Like 1001 01:25:43,399 --> 01:25:46,720 Thieves and he was talking about, you know, I got twelve hundred songs, 1002 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,600 but you know, Maggie, I'll have three. Well, it's kind 1003 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:55,279 of the same for me. It's like when I'm going through the list, 1004 01:25:55,399 --> 01:25:57,880 I'm going, oh god, how am I going to short list this? 1005 01:25:58,039 --> 01:26:00,279 And then I'll short list it, and then I'll go, now, well 1006 01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:03,720 wait a minute, what about that one? And then you know, suddenly 1007 01:26:04,039 --> 01:26:08,039 half the day's gone and then I just have to walk away from it. 1008 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:14,479 I'll stick with the four that the band have chosen so far, driving myself 1009 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:20,439 crazy, but yeah, you know, it's it's it's starting. We're going 1010 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:28,000 to start that probably next week because we've just been prepping. I'm working with 1011 01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:32,359 the guitarists, the lead guitarist, just sort of knocking them into shape and 1012 01:26:33,159 --> 01:26:39,479 any any changes need to be made before we go into like full rehearsal with 1013 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:45,279 the band. Yeah, and then next year, So that's really what we're 1014 01:26:45,319 --> 01:26:53,239 focusing on up to Christmas and into January February, and there was supposedly playing 1015 01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:59,039 some shows in Dublin which I haven't haven't played since well god knows why, 1016 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:06,279 some long long time ago. And then we're out to Europe again in I 1017 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:13,199 think the end of July August. There were UK shows obviously in between, 1018 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:18,960 and then I hope to get out to America again maybe September. But we'll 1019 01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:24,560 see. We haven't got the we haven't got the sort of itinerary sort of 1020 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,479 confirmed yet, but we'll see. Yeah, yeah, very good, very 1021 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,279 good. Hey, by the way, where does the name come from? 1022 01:27:30,399 --> 01:27:36,239 Rolling exile is a cool name. Well it's interesting, actually. I sometimes 1023 01:27:36,359 --> 01:27:40,600 people have said, oh, you know rolling exile, Well, was this 1024 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,119 a kind of like a media type of you know, clever sort of by 1025 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:50,560 putting a name like that together, you know, so that in other words, 1026 01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,520 you know, you could tag it quite easily, or even if you 1027 01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:00,800 use the name on its own. And I said no, I said, 1028 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,039 because I was asked about it once in an interview, I said, really 1029 01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:11,279 what it was as simple as this. I feel that when I when I 1030 01:28:11,399 --> 01:28:15,119 left Ireland, I was, as I said earlier, you know, I 1031 01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:19,640 was working for bands as a guitar tech and just you know, rolling around 1032 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:24,880 the globe for like ten years. And then you know, I started living 1033 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,920 in London as well, and I'd lived in the States for a short while, 1034 01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:33,560 but came back and I kind of, you know, just thought, 1035 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:39,119 well, I'm a bit of an exile really and I'm just constantly rolling, 1036 01:28:39,279 --> 01:28:42,560 you know, somewhere, you know, And that's that's how it came to 1037 01:28:43,399 --> 01:28:45,039 be. I wasn't trying to be clever, you know, because I say, 1038 01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,640 some people go, oh, yeah, that was a really smart move 1039 01:28:48,159 --> 01:28:58,439 that I like it. You lived in the US at one point, yeah, 1040 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,479 no, only only for a short time. Okay, it was sort 1041 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,279 of batches of time. I lived in New York for a while, probably 1042 01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:11,560 about six months, and then Connecticut where my family live and then but but 1043 01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,600 I was based in London all the time, you know, yeah, really, 1044 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,960 but I was just going back and forth initially, but yeah, so 1045 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:25,279 but London has yeah been my base since I left Ireland. Really, you 1046 01:29:25,359 --> 01:29:29,319 know, yeah, yeah, very cool, very cool. Well listen, 1047 01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,720 Charlie, you've been generous with your time. I love talking to you. 1048 01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,920 This has been wonderful. We're gonna play I'm gonna play a couple more of 1049 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,159 your songs to end the segment. What one of them mean Good Morning London. 1050 01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:44,640 I also love that song. I don't is there a story behind the 1051 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:55,520 song? I don't speak French. Yeah, it's well, it's or I'm 1052 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,880 sorry I said the title wrong. I just realized this can't speak French. 1053 01:29:59,079 --> 01:30:00,800 I just want to correct myself. Oh no, it doesn't. I don't 1054 01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:08,359 know the same thing. Yeah, there is a little bit. It's kind 1055 01:30:08,399 --> 01:30:15,000 of it's just a memory of a place at a city you know that I 1056 01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:18,640 that I was in and the times that we had, and it's kind of 1057 01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:24,960 a it's looking back a little bit at it in a just remembering the people 1058 01:30:25,039 --> 01:30:28,600 that I hung out with and the and the sort of you know, kind 1059 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,680 of kind of times we had. But I think Good Morning London is probably 1060 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:41,880 a better example of Good Morning London was really a song about in my it's 1061 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,640 going to say, in my irresponsible days. You know, you go into 1062 01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:53,399 a club at eleven o'clock at night, you know the nightclubs in London, 1063 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760 and you know, you come out at seven o'clock in the morning on a 1064 01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,600 Sunday morning, you know, completely obliterated and kind of going, oh my 1065 01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:05,560 god, it's daylight and like where am I? And it was you'd start 1066 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:11,199 walking through the streets and soho whatever, and you see all these other characters 1067 01:31:11,399 --> 01:31:15,600 kind of like just about able to make it up the sidewalk, you know, 1068 01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,880 or falling out of the side of a building. Everybody's a little bit, 1069 01:31:20,279 --> 01:31:24,119 you know, battle fatigued from the night before. And it was just 1070 01:31:24,199 --> 01:31:28,680 a snatch short of London London life, you know, on the Sunday morning 1071 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:32,199 after a hard Saturday night. Yeah, yep, it's a great track. 1072 01:31:32,319 --> 01:31:35,279 Those those are both those are both great songs. I think I'm gonna I 1073 01:31:35,279 --> 01:31:41,199 think I'm gonna play both of those after we let you go. But absolutely 1074 01:31:41,319 --> 01:31:44,239 absolutely, And Charlie, what what should people know about how to find you 1075 01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:46,239 online? To keep up with everything that you're doing with Rolling Exile, and 1076 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:54,479 uh yeah, it's pretty much. You know, Rolling Exile dot Com is 1077 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:59,359 the website, but we're on every single music platform you know you can think 1078 01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,159 of, so we listen the more but the obvious like spot Spotify, Amazon 1079 01:32:02,279 --> 01:32:08,000 Music, you know, et cetera, et cetera. And then obviously Instagram 1080 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:15,319 and our Facebook pages is rolling exo, which is just one word. When 1081 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:19,800 Facebook, they drove me crazy when I first got into Facebook to put up 1082 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:24,800 a band page, you couldn't do it without a personal page. So I 1083 01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:29,800 made my personal page rolling exile. I split the word. Yeah, but 1084 01:32:30,399 --> 01:32:33,520 it's you know, sometimes people go to my personal or the van page, 1085 01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:38,760 but which really doesn't matter. But the band pages, it's just one word, 1086 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:43,239 rolling exile. Yeah. On Facebook and that's it. Yeah, Instagram, 1087 01:32:43,319 --> 01:32:45,880 all the all the usual suspects, you know, yes, yes, 1088 01:32:46,079 --> 01:32:49,720 absolutely, all right, Charlie, we'll let you go. By the way, 1089 01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:54,439 what what time is it in London? Just out of curiosity, it's 1090 01:32:55,159 --> 01:32:58,960 I think it's about twenty to four now, or I think you say twenty 1091 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,439 our four. Isn't it coming up to twenty twenty to four? Yeah, 1092 01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,039 in the afternoon. Oh, okay, okay, cool, yeah, I 1093 01:33:04,359 --> 01:33:09,000 was curious. All right, well, Charlie, thank you so much. 1094 01:33:09,119 --> 01:33:13,000 Rolling Exile. Love what you're doing. Great band. We'll have to we'll 1095 01:33:13,039 --> 01:33:15,479 have to do this again in the future, but we'll let you go. 1096 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,199 And then I'm gonna play this track for everybody, Good Morning London. But 1097 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,479 Charlie, thank you so much, my friend. It's been wonderful to speak 1098 01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:27,199 with you today, and thank you. I really enjoyed it. I really 1099 01:33:27,319 --> 01:33:30,359 did. And say hi to Jen, thank you so much. Absolutely all 1100 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:31,800 right, Charlie, thank you, Take care, bye bye, okay, 1101 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:38,560 bye bye bye, all right, very good Charlie. I got his name 1102 01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,920 right, Hallanon, yes he said. I said it correctly on the first 1103 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,319 try, which is wonderful. And I'm gonna play this track. Actually, 1104 01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:47,640 I'm gonna play both of these. I'm gonna play good Morning London, and 1105 01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,680 then i'm gonna play I Can't Speak French, a couple of great songs from 1106 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:57,039 the album weather Change from Rolling Exile, and and then when we come back, 1107 01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,520 we're gonna be crossing into very shortly be crossing into our number three New 1108 01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,840 Marrow trace of Matt Connorton, unleashed and the band pretty late will be live 1109 01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:09,680 here in studio. But they're not late. They are on time, I 1110 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,920 believe so. Actually they're early, which is even better. So everyone's been 1111 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,840 very punctual today is awesome. It doesn't always work out that way, you 1112 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:21,880 know, especially on a Saturday morning with musicians, but everyone's been punctual, 1113 01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,520 which is fantastic. And yeah, check these out. I'm gonna play both 1114 01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,399 of these. We're gonna do this one first. Good morning, London, 1115 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,319 although in London it's afternoon. Oh, we have a call. Maybe we'll 1116 01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:39,720 uh who's on the let's uh, we'll we'll grab this and then we'll hit 1117 01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,279 that track. Hi, Welcome to Matt Connorton Unleashed. Who's this. I'm 1118 01:34:44,319 --> 01:34:47,399 Matt Ronny. Hey Ron, how you doing? My friend good? Hey, 1119 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,600 you gotta get that guy's number for me. I need a roady you 1120 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,319 do well. It sounds like he's pretty busy these days, but I think 1121 01:34:54,359 --> 01:34:59,640 his roady days are behind. Very very cool. Actually, Oh, thank 1122 01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,560 you, Ron, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Yeah, he's a great 1123 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,720 guy. I really enjoyed speaking with him, and I love his band, 1124 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:09,439 love his music. Yeah, it was good so that in the beginning of 1125 01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:14,119 the show that was his band playing at the beginning of the show was well, 1126 01:35:14,359 --> 01:35:15,960 the song that we opened with the show with today. I don't know 1127 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,359 if you were listening from the very beginning. We opened with a track from 1128 01:35:18,359 --> 01:35:21,680 the band Pretty Late, who are actually our guests coming up in the third 1129 01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:26,239 hour. But then we had in studio, we had a run like Thieves. 1130 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:29,279 They were with us for the first hour, and then Charlie, of 1131 01:35:29,359 --> 01:35:32,840 course we just talked to, is from the band Rolling Exile. Okay, 1132 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,439 so see, I've been bomping back and forth. I did catch the first 1133 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:40,800 show first, you know, bandit nine ish yeah, and now the first 1134 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:43,840 music. Hey, listen before we go, you gotta tell me. I'm 1135 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,640 curious that picture on the corner of your desk, that thing goes back and 1136 01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,520 forth, back and forth. Is that a personal photo of a portrait or 1137 01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:56,560 something or other than that belongs to you? That is from the band Infinity 1138 01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,800 Vein. They're from Texas and they were on the show, and then they 1139 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:04,920 sent us that autographed picture, so I display it proudly during the program. 1140 01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:10,359 Great, now, you answered, now you know that's curious. Minds wanted 1141 01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:12,560 to know, and I said, Jesus, you know, one minute, 1142 01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,760 is you know postcard and the next thing it's a picture and I've seen it 1143 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,039 go back and forth. But anyways, I don't want to take up any 1144 01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:20,399 more of your time. I have a great day, buddy. All right, 1145 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,439 thanks Ron, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Yeah, 1146 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,800 all right, bye bye. All right, that was our friend Ron. 1147 01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,319 Always nice to hear from him. And all right, let's hear these 1148 01:36:29,399 --> 01:36:33,000 tracks we've got. We're gonna start with good morning London from Rolling Exile and 1149 01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:36,359 then coming up in the third hour. We have pretty late joining us a 1150 01:36:36,439 --> 01:37:00,359 live in studio, so plenty more to come. We'll get to the bone 1151 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:05,640 and kissing on the corner and ever still walking candy from about a job cot 1152 01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:16,399 bone it Yeah, good old another do falling off a side, can see 1153 01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,640 how long giving in a beach you just get into the come on bonde it 1154 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:32,039 to yup, good old another do? Throw the damping phone out his side 1155 01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:40,960 stream? Ye who's traveling that way? D and going again? I got 1156 01:37:41,079 --> 01:37:46,680 a pot and change and a half four of streamers. Never know now I 1157 01:37:46,880 --> 01:38:01,640 find my bred good bard it, good hod it another time, good board, 1158 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:13,159 the good God, the IPCs and never a silver prees. What you 1159 01:38:13,279 --> 01:38:18,600 need now? You won't give it anyhow, God moan it you yah goodbod 1160 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:28,680 and nondo every now then I'll leave my friend. What do you want to 1161 01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:41,119 see? I want to sna be God morn into yuh goodbod tondo come abound 1162 01:38:41,279 --> 01:38:47,439 your falling out of side street seven hour when you're lining the come again. 1163 01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:57,279 I'm gonna go at the trees and a half of the stings every now then 1164 01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:12,640 the five month forever, good modes, good old is b good bard is 1165 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:59,760 good boy, loved good by good love, good old, good old bu 1166 01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:44,119 good morn among my wides, just another day street dimonst live in the city 1167 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:59,520 job, there's your open job. Only watch you say, Jill. Now 1168 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:15,840 it's a level while we live those stays, the times places, there's a 1169 01:41:16,079 --> 01:41:46,880 many of Fabi says. They are so long walking down the streets and suns 1170 01:41:49,000 --> 01:42:03,560 the battery gays away. I wish for you, I wish for me to 1171 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:28,680 cryd yesterday call loud it sound love. Why w a those days times races, 1172 01:42:30,239 --> 01:43:02,039 those cony uses lay so long us search. I don't speak French. 1173 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:25,079 I can't speak French. I can't speak French. I can't speak French. 1174 01:43:30,119 --> 01:43:43,560 I can't speak French. I can't speak French. I didn't speak French. 1175 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:54,880 I don't speak Fish speak fresh