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guest joining us from the great state of Texas is our friend Mario. Mario,
how are you doing today, sir? Well, George, how are
you doing today? Man? As your listeners are listening, my name is
Mario. I'm from California, born, raised out there. I'm thirty five
years old. I've moved out here late August twenty twelve. I moved out
to Texas and you know, throughout my whole life, I was I was
blue piled, so you know, I was. I was in the Matrix,
which I'm trying to get my girl to watch, which she has not
wanted to in a while. But anyways, I've been out here since,
like I said, twenty twelve, and did it really and you know,
didn't really you know, reddil myself until later on in life and when I
you know, I lived through all this, you know, nine to eleven,
which was you know, I was only thirteen at the time, and
you know, at that time, I still didn't even that did not wake
me up. That was just more of a of a oh, it's a
big event that's happening, you know. And then right after war happened,
right, also lived through you know white t K, which is you know,
something to another, which was kind of cool too. I not cool,
but it was. It was interesting going from white to K into nine
to eleven, right right back to back. I was, you know,
a kid, like I said, thirteen years old, and I feel like
I didn't get blue pilled until you know twenty obviously twenty twenty. I feel
like I was fully awake then. But going back a little bit, around
twenty seventeen, I decided to go back to California, right, And when
I when I went back, I'd started to notice that this is right,
I guess right after Obama left office and Trump was getting in office, and
everything in the media was Trump did this, Trump did that, Trump didn't
do this, Trump is gonna destroy over the world, right, and you
know it was it was so basically that was like, I guess, like
a nudge. I would say, that was my nudge, Like, okay,
what's going on? And then I started looking into I guess surface looking
into politics and like I said, everything was just Trump, Trump, Trump,
and it just got drilled, you know, from twenty seventeen to twenty
twenty when everything happened, and uh yeah, I mean it was getting drilled
a lot with freaking Trump. Was you know, too much too man?
But I said that was my nudge that kind of basically, you know,
basically waking up and you know, moving your eyes and open, I mean
your eyes, like what's going on? What's going on? Okay, and
all you've seen is just propaganda you know, the right and the left,
you know, in your face and you're just locate. That's that's a lot
right there. So basically I would say I went back to sleep at that
time. And then which also you know that all that when it comes to
conspiracy theories, obviously I went back to sleep, right But obviously I knew
the I had a feeling that the moonlighting was fake nine to eleven was inside
job, which I never really dove into. I just heard from word of
mouth, Hey you know this, that this happened, this, you know
with the fake planes, no playe theory. Yep. And after a while,
like I said, I basically woke up in twenty twenty. But that's
my trying to thought. So in twenty I would say twenty twenty two,
twenty three, early twenty late twenty two, I was going through Facebook reals,
right, and then this guy named Caleb dot Fe from TikTok. Caleb
from TikTok. He had this one model which was the solar system, you
know, racing through space, and I was like, wait, wait,
wait, and then he's you know, he broke it down. You know,
we have a solar system, we have the Sun, we're spinning around.
And then which to me, obviously, hey, that made sense to
me. You know, that's that's what almost everybody's used to you know,
everyone everything going around, So the Sun. I was like, dude,
well, what's it mean. It's racing through space, chasing the galaxy or
whatever while we're spinning. And that's so like I was always into this,
into science fiction. And when he basically broke me out of my show when
he described what the scientists, when NASA is teaching everyone else and what we're
basically now teaching to the to the students, saying that we're racing through space
while or how Dave Why says a courch crewing through space. You know,
all around and whatnot. It just did not did not resonate. It just
did not make any sense to me. It doesn't make any sense. So
that's where I started like, Okay, what is this, you know?
And then all of a sudden, I started seeing flat Earth the Briels on
Facebook, which, in reality, I was like, if something is being
hid in Facebook, it shouldn't be on Facebook, I guess, but it
is. I got my eyes, got to see him see them, and
yeah, man, I I went on Spotify. I typed flat earth,
and yours was the first one to pop up. And uh, I'm pretty
sure you hear that a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty caught up. Yeah.
So it's like yours, yours and a few others are the only ones
that are just strictly flat earth or whatever, which is okay, I'm gonna
give you know, this guy a chance to see what's up. And and
here I am, now here you are on the podcast. So yeah,
and again it goes back to I'm glad I made And I've had so many
people tell me that they're glad that I titled it that way, because that's
how they found the podcast, by literally putting those two words in the search
Engine. A couple of things that you had mentioned talking about movies and The
Matrix and once you are quote unquote red pilled, when you go back and
watch some of the movies, isn't it incredible how you see the same movie
so differently as you did the first time while you were asleep. See,
yes, I have in I actually haven't seen The Matrix lately. I've been
trying to watch it with my girl, and she convinced me not too long,
love to watch the Fifth Element, so we watched that instead. Okay,
Bruce Willis, But yeah, watching certain movies and going to certain music
events, like, it's a little bit different now once you're blue, red
pilled. So what's the better music town Dallas or where you were in California?
And you know, I wanna be honest, man, Dallas music scene
is pretty darn good? Is it? Pretty dark good? Plus? I
mean, I'm older now, so I shouldn't have money to go and spend
on concert with one, but argo when I was younger, you know,
I had to ask permission from my parents. Hey, you go, what
kind of music is it? That's that's you're not the right music for you,
you know, being stubborn teenager or whatever. But I would say out
here the music scenees a little better. I mean we have Pantera, that's
right. Actually with te Pantera and Metallica in August, it was pretty pretty
good show. But like I said, it was a little different, especially
since I've just recently opened my eyes, you know what I mean. Who
did they have replace Daryl with? And it's uh oh Zach Wild? Oh
sure, sure, sure he's a he's a hired gun for musicians. Man,
that's awes. I'm sure he gets paid well to do it. No,
you diems good, he's good. And then I forgot what who drunk
for them? But other than that, it was a pretty good show,
especially in Metallica was closing out. Sure, oh, I mean it was
good. It was good for what it was. And but yeah, I
don't know, man, because I'm still nervous you and tho this is my
my second one under my belt. Oh no, you're doing great. And
another thing you mentioned that kind of made me laugh was y two k for
literally like that. I think it was late that last eighteen months, probably
from about mid ninety eight into two thousand. That's you know, the banks
were going to fail. The computers were going to shut down. The power
grids were going to go down. And I remember I was stationed in Hawaii
and we're standing there. Obviously we're five hours behind the East coast. So
I'm calling my sister. It's like, hey, you still got power.
She's like, yeah, nothing happened, just laughing. Yeah, I remember
those days. Okay, So I think it was. It was the weekend
of the of I was a kid, man, I was a kid.
The stores were a little scarce, a little bit, you know, with
with just you know, the actual essentials was just water and whatnot, you
know, I mean, they did a decent scare at that time. Sure,
like I said, I was it, you know, I was.
I was, what twelve eleven and but uh yeah, white too, White
t K was interesting. And then I had looked at my dad and I
was like, Dad, I forgot to turn off the computer. We had
just got into combat off of the line at that time was a five hundred
and twelve megabyte. Yeah, top fine man back in the day. But
yeah, I mean, like I said, White t K happened. And
then nine to eleven, nine to eleven shook me a little bit, just
because I lived in Riverside, which is forty five minutes away from La So
at the time, I was like, what, I think I attacked Los
Angeles too, you know, and from gathering what happened back then, you
know, it's like they quickly put Muslims that you know had attacked us and
whatnot, you know, quickly right on, right on the spot after it
happened. So it was you know, like I said, I didn't really
dive into it until just recently. But really my first rabbit hole was flat
Earth. Like I actually dove in and then basically it spit me out and
say, hey, you got to learn all these other conspiracies before you come
back to flatter Earth back because everything's related. So I've been like, you
know, going back and forth to like, you know, a little bit
here and a little bit there, but a lot a lot of truth leads
back to flat Earth, which is like, it's not a coincidence there,
Come on, now, man, you know, it's not a coincidence,
which if you really look up the term coincidence, it's irremarkable event or circumstances
without apparent casual connection, which they're alone. It's like it should be very
rare. That's right now, like very rare yes, and and like I
said, like I'm not gonna eave me to this, and they're looking at
a lot of things. It's just everything, everything's tied in, even like
Titanics tied into the Rothschilds and JP Morgan get me in a whole now,
I'm just trying to well a singer ship. You know, it was not
just an accident that it hit an iceberry or whatever. It was all caused,
you know, yeah, And so I know it's just going to this.
It's just a big, big eye opener. Man. Like it's a
big eye opener. And like I said, it kind of like spit me
back out saying, hey, man, learn some of the other stuff because
everything is related anyways. That's like I said, that's where I'm at right
now. And I'm glad you made that analogy because that that is something that
we should describe how coincidence. And I just threw a coin in the old
coincidence jar just for bringing it up. But it should be something that happens.
So like it's such a combination of extraordinary events and when you look at
all the coincidences from that one day, whether it be the guy who bought
the properties just six weeks before, and he got the insurance money, and
the Bush family being part of the security team, and the Yodago message system
warning all the Israelis not to go to work that day, and Lucky Larry
Silverstein being late to go to work that day because of a medical appointment and
his daughter's being stuck in I mean, it is literally like five hundred of
these type of things, which again, does it prove anything, No,
But where there's smoke, there's fire. And I think with the history of
everything that our government has done, just the shady, extraordinary evil things that
we have done, if anybody doesn't take the time to look into it,
then shame on them. Yeah. And uh, like I said, man,
I was well, I seen all the smoking guns, but I was
too content. Yeah, sure, content to wherever I was at. And
and I would have you know, let's say a family member tell me,
let's just go like to like nine eleven. I know that nine eleven.
You just everyone could talk about it forever, you know what I mean.
But that's probably the only one, big, big event that I can really
relate to. And it's just people would just you know a little bit here
a little bit there, and I'll be like, Okay, well, yeah
I can see that. I can see that. But that's all I ever
stayed at, you know. And it was just because it I lived through
it, I didn't want to go through it again because I was, like
I said, a kid, I just but it didn't shook me enough to
wake me up, you know, to see, hey there's something wrong.
I would be like something shady, but whatever, let's just go back to
bed. So yeah, and it's I mean, I'm glad I woke up.
I woke up, you know, and it's it was meant to be
out at a certain time, you know, and which I have a question
for you actually, you know, sure, And because I always see this
every time, I see this at least twice a day, which is twelve
thirty four, And and I like, let's hold deal with with with with
flatter kind of I'm getting into more more biblical deal with you know, with
God or whatever, which I was on and off with religion for years.
And then like I said, this one last thing right here, kind of
like hey there's a career man, there's someone up above. But I always
see twelve twelve thirty four, and I looked up online what quotes biblical?
Because I always see them either I wake up at twelve thirty four if I
go to bed early, or I'm at work and I see twelve thirty four.
I always see twelve thirty four. So these twelve thirty four and in
Cheing James verversions because old generations of vipers. How can ye, being evil
speak good things for out for out of unabundance of the heart to them?
Ah, my bad? You could abundance of the heart and valves speak it,
which I have no idea what that means. Man, I'm really trying
to like decipher what that means. Which I'm glad I'm talking to you about
that. Yeah, And when you when you sing a lot of verse like
that, sometime to make it, to put it in context, it's good
to read maybe the verse before, the verse after after. So if you
look at thirty three, it says thirty three either make the tree of I'm
sorry, either make the tree good and his fruit good, or else make
the tree corrupt and his fruit corrupt. For the tree is known by his
fruit. So is he saying that you know anybody who puts out bad and
for you know a bad person is going to generate bad just is going to
bear bad fruit. He's going to bring bad things to you. Right,
you don't want to hang around bad people. Now that you get to the
verse that you're talking about thirty four oh generation of vipers. And obviously he
may be talking about I probably have to read the entire chapter to get the
full context, but maybe he's talking about, you know, as the Bible
says in the end times, people fall away from God. So he may
be talking about the generation of vipers, the generation of people who have turned
their back on God. How can ye being evil speak good things? Out
of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh So again, you know,
with kindness and goodness in your heart, you're going to speak good things
those who have evil, and you know that's why he kind of refers to
them as vipers are going to spew, you know, evil words. So,
like, what we're doing here today is we're sharing our knowledge and we're
sharing our beliefs, and I think we are speaking the abundance of the heart.
Right, We're bringing goodness and we're uplifting people. We're not tearing down
people, which there's a lot of podcasts and TV shows that that make a
lot of money off of tearing people down, and and you know, being
like vipers can agree with that. I can agree with that. And then
also I when I looked up that that those quotes also came with Luke three
four, Luke twelve thirty four thirty four ye, because I guess I wasn't
sure what it meant because I just I just started looking it up. Oh
okay, and me game Matthews twelve thirty four and then Luke twelve thirty four,
which Luke twelve thirty four says for where your treasure is, there will
your heart be also, which I I'm like, I'm pretty sure I had
to read the one before, but I just clipped on the on the geter
here. Yeah, when I googled it, when you first mentioned it.
When I first s googled it, it brought up the Matthew for the Brew
of Vipers, that is the first one it brought up as well. Yeah,
for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also? So
what is your treasure? Right? Is your treasure following Jesus Christ? Because
if it is, then that's where your heart's going to be. And I
would say my treaditor, right, it would be the truth, man,
the truth. Like that's I mean, that's where I'm assuming if the creator
it showed me, you know, brought me, you know, towards Caleb
or whatever to come through my reels, because if you wouldn't have showed me
the whole soul system, you know, doing its thing or what NASA for
claims to be doing, I know I wouldn't be here right now. I
would still be you know, in a guess, I would be still blue
pill trying to wake up, because I mean I never really trusted the government
to begin with, but I was never fully on this side of things wanting
to know the truth, you know, yeah for sure. So I'm assuming.
Yeah, so I'm assuming there's a reason why I will seeing these numbers.
And also I always see thirteen, Like thirteen always pops up in my
in my in my in my day. And that's like like either I added
up to thirteen or I see the actual one three everywhere. It's just one
of those weird things, which he says is the number of lucky number,
which then also you can go into other things which you know, there's thirteen
families that get the world all and then there's there's Jesus, and there's twelve
Disciples, and it just goes all down the line from there. So it's
kind of like is it a really good luck or is it just another thing
that I have to look at, you know, which also brought me into
numerology, which I don't I'm like, I'm just anewly when it comes to
all of this, So I'm like literally just taking all the knowledge that I
can in and so I don't know, I mean, it's it's been a
it's been an interesting journey learning about you know, the the treaty, the
Antharctic Treaty. You know, you can't really go past the sixtieth parallel and
why would why would they make a treaty you know, protecting the penguins or
something back in the day to where you can't explore it. I mean,
why is it that countries that were in world wars can agree on that one
thing but can agree on on anything else. It's just kind of brings up
a lot of questions. So just that one reel that he showed me,
or that I stumbled across you across brought me through, you know, through
and through everything where I'm at now, So I'm pretty I guess blessed him.
It comes to that. Yeah, Calebs, I think he's a pretty
big account now on TikTok. He's got a lot of followers and he's opened
up a lot of eyes. Yeah, I've seen him. I actually got
to message him saying thank you uh for showing me that one reel or and
he actually replied saying, you know, just thanking me or whatever. That's
awesome. It seems like a dude. So that's all. It's pretty cool,
really cool. And then in your journey another thing that you mentioned that
was an eye opener for different reasons for different people, but in the case
you made, I don't hear enough of and it's something that we should really
talk about. It was not so much the Trump of twenty twenty, but
the Trump of twenty seventeen and eighteen and nineteen, where you had one television
station that basically was saying he was the son of Satan, and then you
had another TV station like Fox News saying, you know, he's the greatest
thing since slice bread. It was very wwe ish to me, right man,
it was, It really was. It was like you know, smackdal
Versus Raw for sure really was man. Yeah, twenty seventeen, seventeen,
eighteen nineteen were for me. Like I said, it was just more of
like you know, waking up, you know, like those starting stages.
But I didn't really wake up until twenty twenty. Man. It was,
like I said, I still feel like kind of late twenty twenty two or
whatever when I saw Caleb the Real and I was really just looking for just
any old podcast, anything, just to kind of like pass time at work.
I was already you know, I screwed the government, you know,
they faked this whole COVID thing. And never, I would say for the
first week or so. Yeah, when it came to COVID, and COVID
came on March, you know, in twenty twenty, and it was coming
everywhere whatever. Uh yeah, I was a little worried, you know.
First couple I was Okay, what's going on? What's going on? But
then I was like, wait a second, I feel like I've been through
this before, which came to my hy two. K oh the wait,
I kind of went through this. They made a big old scarce about the
computer's going out doing all this crazy shit. Now they're now thinking it gets
a virus something. I can't see what's going on? What's going on?
And then like people were, you know, ramping up. Oh, people
are dying left and right, left and right, left and right. And
I lived by a hospital. I didn't see anything. I mean, you
know what I mean, But I didn't see anything. Man, I was,
Okay, what's going on here? So then, like I said,
twenty and twenty two, and I was still going through all the political you
know, Trump here, Trump there, and Biding this and Biden that.
Man, it was just hecktic thing. And man, I was that was
a rough time for a lot of people. And I didn't I stayed working.
I was there working every day. But I'm kind of glad it happened
because it's I don't know, I feel like I feel like I'm actually living
now. I guess. Yeah. Well, that had as much to wake
people up as any other event did in the last fifty years. COVID was
responsible for waking a lot of people up because of the ridiculousness of it all.
How you know the virus. You know, you were safe six feet
away, but five and a half feet you were going to catch COVID.
My wife forked at a hospital during that time, and she said the same
thing. She's like, there is nobody in the ar. This place is
just dead. And that's why people, you know, gave the nurses a
hard time for you remember all the crazy TikTok nurse videos, which, by
the way, most nurses thought was cringe themselves. It was just a few
people who did those, but it was because they had nothing to do.
The ears were empty, and so I was thinking, that's all. Like,
you know, I didn't have TikTok until just recent that really, and
you know, but on Facebook you would see TikTok reels, and you know,
I would see nurses just dancing around. I'm like, wait, I
see from from like for instance, my my, my coworker. He he
dabbles a lot in a drudge drudge grudge I forgot what that drudge? Yeah,
you know, and he gets all his information there and he was like,
you know, I guess that's more truth foolish, I guess or whatever.
You know. So and so whatever, you know, either way,
he knows how to pick out his truth or whatever. So he would tell
me hospitals are empty and whatnot. And then I would see on TikTok people
complaining, Oh, we need hell, we need stuff. I'm like,
well, that place tells me no. But then TikTok tells me, hey,
I'm seeing that we're empty while you're also showing me that you're busy.
What's up? Make up your story? You know what I mean? When
it came you know, when it comes to that. I also saw a
lot of like a few big people or sources where they would shut out like
movie scenes of heavy er traffic or whatever, and it would pass it on
as news, which saw NBC do that. I wish I would have got
the links for all that, but I saw CNN that, Sorry, my
bad, CNN will play movie clips that had heavy scenes of er you know
scenario. So they would show people that and people believe what's on the TV,
just like a good old Reagan set. So yeah, and once again
nobody got held accountable for it. The propaganda was next level. I remember
early March, slate February sometime around there that brought in those two ships,
one in the Port of New York and one in San Diego because they just,
oh, the hospitals are going to be so overflowed that we're gonna have
to you know, stash the extra people in these ships, and you know,
you're starting to see, you know, all the people put off the
I think they call them electa surgeries or things that weren't life you know,
at the during twenty twenty, a lot of people put off a lot of
things, and it's catching up with them now. The uh, you know,
the death rates are off the chart now. Obviously some of that maybe
because of the jabb At Abadoo, but it also is probably a combination of
people who put off medical procedures, preventive maintenance. Just like preventive maintenance on
your car. You don't change your oil for twenty thousand miles, your engine's
going to be a wreck. Right, that's true. So I'm sure COVID,
what was that like for you? You were in Texas at the time,
so it probably although you were in Dallas area. Well, what was
it like for you during that time? Were they pushed in the mask?
Uh? What was it like at work? Et cetera? And Okay,
so at that time we were going through a a Okay, so I'm a
I'm a blue collar worker man. I work out in the warehouse and we
distribute cheese all around. We get all the cheese from from from Wisconsin and
New Mexico, so of both, you know, cheese capitals of the United
States. And we distribute cheese to UH to basically all all all of Texas,
part of Louisiana, Oklahoma, and UH in Arkansas, which when we
distribute the cheese to all the all the big distributors, all the big dcs,
we buy it directly from the source. So during that time also we
were going through a h our owner was selling his his the company to some
to some investors and investors the owners of Chicken Express. I don't know if
you have any checking Express up in Delaware. You know, it's just basically
a fast food you know, chicken joint like Canes or whatever. And uh
so one of the other the owner of Chicken Express has the kids, the
kids, their kids ow us now and we were going through that change,
so they did. They We were lucky for them not to push the mask
man they at all. So we worked the whole time without masks. They
didn't push it. We weren't really even really worried about it because we needed
it. Was luckily we work with nothing but but but conservative people for a
few and so they you know, a whole mask thing was like your mask?
Yeah, fuck that? Oh my bad. I didn't need to cuss.
Uh. So we never wore a mask. We just went to work
and going to and from work. Man, it felt like uh an apocalyptic
journey there because there was like no cars inside. You would see one straggler
here there, you know, all fully masked up. You know. But
like, I guess I got lucky. I didn't have to wear one.
They didn't require the job or anything. So and when it comes to that,
I really I think I lucked out. Man. I really couldn't ask
for anything better than that. Yeah, that is a story that you don't
hear too much of most of the stories you hear a people who, like
my wife, they humiliated the people who didn't want the job. Not only
did they have to wear one mask, they made them wear two masks.
So my wife's working a twelve hour shift wearing two masks. So it was
a humiliation ritual for them. Really, that's they were trying to humiliate them
and suffocate them until they caved. But fortunately, you know, people stood
strong in their convictions and hopefully it will never ever ever have to endore something
like that again. But something tells me with an election coming around, what
do you see for next year yourself? What do you think twenty twenty four
is going to bring you have any ideas? Man, I I feel like
I think might push that again because I like, right now, like I
see a couple of stories here and there, they're trying to ramp up some
type of like you know, COVID deal again and I started seeing people mask
up again. Yep, So I'm assuming I'm thinking, Mike, this is
just me thinking out loud. Basically, I think, Hey, we're gonna
try it again, see how many more people we can get the jab,
and then we might move on to something, you know, something else.
But yet again, it could be like, hey, let's not do something.
It's not do the job or the mask. Don let's just do something
else. You know. It's just it's either they're gonna you know, take
with two hands or just take with one hand. It's just really, I
mean, it is an election year. That's That's what's kind of like making
like my eyebrows you know, go up, Like, Okay, what's going
on? Bro? Like what are y'all gonna do now? Especially now that
you're awake. It's kind of like, what are you gonna do now?
Man? You know, like you really you're keeping you know, head over
your shoulder, you know, what's going on? What's going on? Yeah,
I really don't. I don't want to say anything, you know,
like Simson has predicted so many different things, right, you mean we can
do go off of them if she would they buy two next Yeah, I
need to go back and check out some recent episodes and see if they say
anything about next year, because that's probably what we'll need to prepare for.
If you guys, I encourage everyone to follow with the CDC on whatever social
media that you use, because they really just within the last twenty hours this
one. It's the holiday season, but it's also a respiratory virus season.
They push jab jab jab. Then there's a health advisory for California in Mexico,
and of course this is what cracks me up. The update of the
updated COVID nineteen vaccines are expected to provide protection against new variants like the BA
dot two point eighty six and the j ON dot want these things like you
would never think that you would be reading like and again, in twenty twenty,
everybody became a medical expert man, everybody became a medical expert, right.
I think I became one too. I don't know if everyone did for
sure. Yeah, some people bowed to the altar of big pharma. But
that is important because, like I say that in a funny way, like
everybody had an opinion on the medical industry. But at the same time,
like I didn't know anything about shedding prior to twenty twenty, and I didn't
you know. Then you start reading things like murder injection, Murder by Ejection
by Eustace Mullins, and then you start to realize, oh my goodness,
gracious, and then you see how the vaccine schedule went off the chain in
the late eighties early nineties, which really at the same time the down syndrome
and these type of things. That's when they really took off an autism,
and you realize how to fit the government really is. They push poison on
us, and the things that are good for us, they teach us our
weeds or they're dangerous for you. Yeah. Yeah, Like I said,
I'm mute to all this. It's like I opened up to to fly Earth
and like flower Earth, like I said earlier, spin me back out and
say, hey, man, you gotta look at some other stuff too.
So it's like right now, it's like what path do I go? And
it's just you know what, I gotta learn that. Also, I've been
like a little bit here, then I back out, you know, I
take a breathe, and then I go to something else and then you know,
so I've been taking a little bit, a little bit of everything at
you know, in small portions. But yeah, it's it's it's interesting how
they and I mean they the controllers, you know, the rulers of the
of the world, how they really want to dumb us down and make us
not who we really are supposed to be, you know what I mean.
Yet, if you try to think about what what would the world be right
now without currency? If you know, we really did break away from if
everyone just broke away from the matrix right now, what would really be the
world? Like, how would it be? You know, it's kind of
like a big pill to swallow because it's hard to imagine because you're so used
to, you know, playing with monopoly money, you know, day in
day out, which you know, I slave away at you know, nine
to five avery and I have two jobs technically, so you know, I'm
doing. I'm doing sixty sixty five hours a week just to just to keep
my head offlow, you know what I mean. It's just looking back at
in the nineteen thirties, nineteen twenties where you kept one hundred percent of your
paycheck. Yep, which this might go against some people. I feel like
certain taxes are okay to maintain things, but yet again, you really need
taxes to maintain all the with the like the roads and all the mainansuff you
would need. Would you really need a lot of taxes just to maintain that.
No, not really. You just getting all the taxes so you guys
can do your pedal, ship pedal, whatever the hell y'all do, and
you know, and everything they do over it, you know. So it's
kind of like and everyone lived with the without without having someone over looking over
them. Because that's that's that's a lot of freedom right there, if you
really think about it, Yep, you know that's a lot of freedom.
Yeah. And I've had this discussion before that, uh you know, going
back to what you just said, if we just walked away, I think
really then people would understand how much effort freedom really takes, because it's a
lot of work. Man, you're talking about educating your own children, bartering,
relying on your neighbors for things, and it's just, uh, you
know, when we were in Iraq for the first tour, everything we did
was working towards survival. Eating, you had limited food, you had limited
water, and it really wakes you up to how spoiled we are and do
they spoil us just to keep us lazy and content? So we don't really
get angry like we should be, because, like you just mentioned, if
you want to have a conversation about local taxes to help upkeep things, I'm
sure most people would be willing to have that conversation. But when you work
the first three and a half months of the year for the government, like
I think they call March twenty fifth tax day, because from January first to
March twenty fifth or thereabouts, that represents like the portion of your annual income
that goes to the federal government. And when you see all your money going
to other countries and then you see your fellow, you know, brother on
the side of the road, and it's such a mental health crisis we have
in this country, and such a drug and when I mean drug I'm talking
like fentanyl and opioids and things like that. Right, we have so many
people here in this country and crisis, yet they just ship off and and
debt our country to the gills. And it's really hard to watch. It's
devastating to watch, and nothing you can do about it. Honest, we
all just stood up and just not conformed, but were in reality we're just
too too comfortable with like, oh, well, I have my have my
have my TV, I have my Netflix, I have my child tomorrow that
I have to go to, you know, And it's like, but you're
aren't you the ones complaining that you're overly pain I mean, I can stop
doing that. But what's one person gonna do. It's not gonna even make
a DBT. You need hundreds and thousands of people, you know what I
mean. Yeah, And what we see is boiling the frog. All these
changes have occurred, you know, slowly over the course of one hundred years.
But if you, like you said, if you took somebody from like
nineteen twenty and brought them to today, they would go nuts. Between the
propaganda, between the debauchery that we see right, the pride and the self
glorification and the taxes. We we've really gotten away from just being good human
beings. And we're too we as people are easily trained by the television and
the internet to tell us how we should feel and how we should act and
when we fall in line ninety percent of the time. And it's because it's
so easy. I mean literally, we just one click away. Seeing back
in the day, you actually had to stand up, get up and move
this channel. Now it's just from a from a distance, You're like,
click, click, click, click click, let's see what's on, you
know, And yeah, it's so easy just to what what are they called
when horses when they have those things, the blinders, you know, I
mean like it's just easy just to you know, be blinder. Just stay
right there. I was gonna ask you some there right now, but I
went wait, I went on the whole different tangent. Man. I went
blink, man, Yeah, it happens, you know, while you're doing
that. I wanted to add one more thing from the CDC when we talk
about getting angry. This posted yesterday at noon. It said expecting a baby
RSV. The leading cause of hospitalization for babies is spreading through the US.
You can get a vaccine between weeks thirty two and thirty six of pregnancy.
That kind of stuff just drives me crazy when you see pregnant people getting jabbed
and then your baby's born and within the first two minutes they're jabbing up the
babies. Eh, that's it's uh good. There is uh trying to see
something up about population, right, Yeah, what do they say? We're
right now eight billion a fountain like that. It says by twenty forty five
is supposed to be jumping up to nine billion people. But there is one
thing. An article I saw a while ago as I'll meet you, typed
in what would the population be in twenty Oh you're talking about the Degal Report.
I think so, and it's supposed to be pop like zero zero kids
are supposed to be being born by then or something like that. Yeah,
the US population is supposed to drop in twenty twenty five. According to the
Digal Report, which they ended up pulling because it got some it ended up
getting mainstream attention. It was supposed to drop to twenty five million something like
that in twenty twenty five. So you're talking in a little over a year
that that's for that to be a true you're talking and again that is there's
also another conspiracy that the population isn't really as much as they say it is.
But I mean that is something we can't really prove. But you're talking
about a mass dialalf of three hundred million people in a year. I don't
know if that's that's the big chunk and the best of decent chunk. Yeah,
now if they I'll tell you what, man, I don't know.
You're you're in Dallas the last and I've had the same conversation with a few
of our guests the last few days, and they've all confirmed this. The
amount of chemtrails that they've been spraying over the last week is something I've never
seen in my entire life. It's been NonStop, dude. Okay, So
going back, like going back, let's say when I was a kid,
I would see a camtrow and I'm talking about when I was what maybe fifteen
fourteen fifteen. I would look up and I would see like one plane,
you know, like yay, that's funny, Wiser played doing you know,
snow trails or whatever, and then going you know, this is back in
two thousand and four, two thousand and five, you know whatever, that
era of time. Going back to now, it's it's like fifteen times fifteen
times what I would see, you know, I would literally see play tic
tac toe with the with the chemtrails up there, like now they sprayed us,
well, they spread us every I don't know, man, I say,
do I see like fifteen different trails up there every day they're in COVID.
There was a period of time where the trail stopped, and then it
kind of makes you think they stopped because there's no one outside. I mean
literally, I would say we went with maybe two months, three months,
but you will only see like one or two camtrolls the whole day, you
know, and then you probably wouldn't even see him maybe a couple of days,
you know, in between or whatever. Now it ramped up again.
Every day I'm seeing kimtros So during COVID. I'm pretty sure now it kind
of makes sense, not that many people were out and about why would they
waste resources spraying people? I just mean, I just don't putting two two
together. I guess no, that's a great thought. I've never heard that.
And if that's the case, that really makes a lot of sense and
lends more creatives to the fact that they are spraying is because again, why
would you waste the resources if everyone is inside. And with that being said,
who do you think this is? Who do you think they are that's
actually doing the spraying. Is it like black government ops or is it military
like being told, hey, we're we're doing this operator like line to the
like your cloud seating, we're testing this cloud seating right now, man,
I would think it's ci Ain doing that. CIA is Bully's strings and be
like, hey, y'all need to do this because we're studying more air molecules
or something exactly. They're ring, right, Yeah, that's just what it
is. Everything's and I'm pretty sure not like Okay, I've heard from your
your podcast and many others like right now, I'm really I'm stuck on centripley.
I don't know if you if you listen to them. Yeah, And
either way, a lot of people talk like, you know, in between
or whatever the guests like people say, you know, truthers would say,
hey, it's NASA doing this, you know. But then when I'm seeing
general I'm not saying just I'm to pinpointing one thing. Not everybody in NASA
or whatever establishment you are, they know what's going on. Only one or
you know, if you select you know, and they's just like, okay,
I need I need Bob over here to do this little thing, so
I can, you know, and then James over there to do this other
thing, and so forth, and so you know, so on, and
then the people that know they get that stuff they gave whatever everyone else is
making, and they know this is the actual plan they think they might be
making, you know, a certain special bullet for the ISS, you know
what I mean. But the reality is something else, you know, and
this is they tell them that we need that specification. So it's like really
only a few know. But those few that know have different departments which they
know, and only a few of those leaders in those departments now and so
on and so forth. And that's how you can have a whole big old
company such as NASSA or any other thing, you know, do a lot
of nefarious things without everybody really, Oh, how do they know? My
uncle worked there? You know? So and so well, you know,
what did your uncle really know? The top dude probably not, you know,
so he was probably working on something, something shady, but the dude
didn't know it was something shady, you know what I mean exactly. And
I saw that same type of compartmentalization in the military as well. Uh,
the bigger the organization. Everybody just has their their small piece of the pie
that they focus on. So sure, maybe you worked for NASA or in
the military, but you didn't have you weren't at the top of the food
chain. Were literally you have it, you know, the highest top secret,
you know, and only a handful of people know at the top.
And again those people get selected. Even in the military, once you get
to a certain rank, you get selected. It's not based on merit or
anything else. You were simply selected and you got to be part of the
club. Whether it's the military, whether it's music, whether it's entertainment or
politics. You've got to be in the club. Damn man. They don't
want they don't want know regular Joe blow, you know, being able to
have a chance to actually run the place and see what's actually going on.
You know, they want they want to keep the inner circle, you know,
within themselves and when the government tells you know, if you work hard
enough and if you study, anybody can be president of the United States.
But then you have people from the same family getting elected. Hello, we'll
get doubt. Do you not see what's going on here? Is this possible?
Why is uh? Yeah, dude stays in the same basically same bloodline.
Man, Like it's it's it's insane. Yeah. My dad always said,
you know, you should be the president of the United States, and
as a kid, yeah, I believe that. Yeah I could that I
could have. But then you know, growing up and you always see the
same characters just different, you know, different different person, but just same
character, doesn't matter. It could be anybody up there, but it's the
same person up there. It's not no one different. It's nobody from you
know, no one from freaking I don't know any old state. You never
see anybody from from that came actually from nowhere and actually became something in you
know, and is doing anything. It's always from their club every time.
Yeap never fails. Yeah, even Obama, he worked for that same corporation
where the CIA selects their people. And again, the CIA as pretty much
between that and a few oligarchs like black Rock. They're the ones who are
really running things that they're telling Biden what to say. You know, Biden
is not sitting behind a computer writing legislature. He's worried about what time is
ice cream and nap time is, and that's just really again more mockery.
That That's why I think we are kind of and again I'm not a prophet
or anything, but I think we are headed toward end times because look at
all the mockery they've done to us lately. They got Biden as president,
that the mockery of COVID and just the propaganda that they put out today is
like, really, you think we're that dumb? I imagine playing this back
in Hell. I'm trying to say back in the early nineties, it would
be really really radical, way left, totally left, Like what this is
what they're playing? You know what I mean? If you take all the
propaganda you bring it back thirty years, you know, people are going to
be like, dude, that I can't believe this is a movie, right,
This is this, It's what we're going through. Ever sent that movie
Idiocracy? Of course it's it's a documentary. It's exactly documentary. And now
it's just like I don't only want to watch that movie because it's it's I'm
living in it right now. Man, I'm like literally living it. Yeah,
I don't want to watch that movie at all. Yeah, when you
see people and you know the clips and even in personne on, when you
walk to a Walmart some of the things, you're right, it is,
we're certainly living that one hundred percent. I'm like you, I just had
something really Oh okay, Sue said, going back to the nineties, But
if you think about it that they did a lot of mockery in the sixties
to think about this JFK and the magic bullet theory, right, how ludicrous
is that even in the late eighties early nineties, that Seinfeld episode where they
made fun of it with they had a baseball player a Keith R. Nandez,
and they made a whole skit about the magic loogie that he spit.
But everybody mocked it, but people still accepted it. I remember that.
And then just six years after the JFK assassination, you know, we're on
the moon, and again you look at the basic things like if you believe
the globe theory and you believe there's a van Allen belt and the heat in
it, there's no way that aluminum craft could have got through there, which
just melted and disintegrated, you know, and again that's just based on the
globe theory, which we know is a lie. But again it's they've known
and I've said this before, and I think this is really an underrated event.
When in nineteen I think it was October thirtieth, nineteen thirty eight or
thirty nine, they played orson Wells War of the World's on the radio and
like seven million people in America called nine one Well it was operator back then
from emergency server. They didn't have nine to one one. Yet people were
shooting their local water towers because they played it it night and they thought the
water towers like a UFO landing. Just all these weird stories and they're like,
these people are idiots, don't believe anything we tell them. And I
think, you know, that's really when they started the propaganda, because uh,
you know, realized like they accidentally found something, you know what I
mean. I oh wait, wait, we can take advantage to this guy
to come on, now, let's let's see what we can do. Yeah.
I see the roth Child sitting at a table throwing money down. I
bet you will tell them we land on the moon in sixty nine and they'll
believe it. Yeah, I did it all. Okay, So when I
when I think about Rothschilds or whatever, I really feel like it's like,
uh, I'm gonna bring a lot of Simpsons man, Like I feel like
it's mister Burns. Yeah, while I was like, oh, X,
you know, like you're not going to take over the human race man.
No, it's it's bad. It's unfortunately. I think it's because like we're
as a humans, humans and you know we are, we tend to be
glogible, We can be googable, you know, so I mean, really
each you know a lot of people take, you know, things that face
value for for what you know, they really do. I mean, I've
done it. I'm sure you have. So it's it's because we're good natured,
I guess, and in a way, at least I at least at
least I try to think that we are. That's why I think that,
you know what I mean, That's why that's why I say that. And
we really can't see another human do something evil toward something else, So that's
why we we That's why a lot of people, I would say, they
stay asleep because they can't they can't imagine someone really doing what was going on,
like, for instance, in Epstein's Island when it comes to kids and
and and all that a regular human being came by. No, that's just
something you see in movies. That's just something you see in movies. But
like, yeah, you see saying you see it in movies because it happens.
You know it's something real. You know it's something real. You don't
just think of something if you, I mean really, if you really,
whatever you think of, it's already been thought of before. So what makes
you think someone can't do something evil to another person just because you won't do
it, you know what I mean? Yeah, tell them, And that's
gonna lead me to a question back to you. But first I want to
mention I'll put this link in the show notes. Fact check is the Simpsons
character mister Burns based on banker Jacob Rothschild, and they both they have their
pictures next to each other and they look exactly the same. But of course
Snope says false. Which if Snope says false, then it's true obviously.
But going back to what you just said. On September eleventh, that night,
Dick Cheney, George Bush, they went to bed, and I'm sure
they had a great night's sleep, didn't lose a wink. So and again
that is one of the reasons people won't dig deep. They're like, oh,
there's no way George Bush would allow, you know, be behind something
like that. So let me ask you this, what are your thoughts on
these people who do these type of Like it's one thing for a human being
to kill someone in a fit of rage, right, maybe they had too
much to drink. They're just like a like going back to coincidence, a
whole bunch of remarkable things have to happen alcohol, just the psychological nature,
and all these things lead up and a guy murder somebody and in most cases
they end up regretting it the rest of their lives. And then there's people
like the Bushes and the Chainings Chinese who get off on the the you know,
mass killing and and the mass suffering of humanity. So my question to
you is, are they just psychopaths? Are they do they have a certain
bloodline where they don't have that switch like you and I have, or what
are your thoughts on that? Uh? Oh that was a good one,
man, Uh decent this. I can't say they've been desynthesized correctly. Oh
yeah, desensified basically. Yeah yeah, So okay, so let me put
this okay in this analogy should answer that question. So me playing this video
game red that Redemption. There's this little bar on the bottom right where it
says good or evil. Right when I first started the game, I was
all trying to be good, good, good, good good, right,
and I in the game it's it's made by rock Stars, just you know,
killing all that good stuff or whatever, not really good stuff, but
it's all that bad stuff. Somehow, I I noticed that my my,
my bar between evil and good was on the more evil side. So I
was trying to make it, you know, be good. And that's a
lot harder. It's a lot harder. But once you've done a lot of
a lot more evil stuff, like for instance, in the game killing or
whatever, it becomes easier. It's just like, eh, I just killed
that dude for a cup, for a couple of bucks whatever. So if
you put it in the grander scale, he's like, it's only a cup.
Thousand people and then and eleven that's whatever. You know, I'm still
getting a million dollars yere, you know what, you know what I mean?
So he basically deluded that idea of him being evil. It's just like
it's just whatever. It's just another day at the office for him. And
the more you do it, and I'm pretty sure he has a long line
of doing I'm pretty sure the first time he got bribed he was like,
Okay, I don't know about this, and then the next time it just
became easier and easier and easier. That's what I was kind of going at.
It's just it just becomes easy first for one human to actually go either
with that either path. Really, if it's easier for him, just and
fuck, I'll just take this big old bribe, kill a couple million,
a thousand people this day. Okay, cool, you know it's symbolic.
Okay, yeah, sure, whatever, dude, And that's probably how he
did. You know, after a while, it got to that level where
he just didn't care and he slept well at night. Really, and that
goes to anybody. Really, that's probably the best answer I ever got when
I asked that question. And as you were giving that answer, I thought
to myself, if I took a chicken to an Amish person and said,
hey, can you clean this for me in five minutes? Without a doubt,
not a worry, not of stress. They kill it, do their
thing. Da da da da dah. But if you take to somebody who's
never done it before, like my neighbor or anybody in the suburbs or somebody
like that, they would stand there for an hour two hours crying, worrying
about having to kill a chicken. Whereas the Amish, it's they understand,
that's part of the circle of life. That's what they do. That's how
they feed their family. And boom boom boom, the mom, the dad,
the children, they're all there, whether it's pulling the feathers. So
that is a great analogy that I think there's almost nothing in life that people
can get used to. But it's really hard to swallow that mass killings and
suffering would be normalized for people. But you made a great point, a
great point, and that's probably the case. Yeah, I just feel like,
I mean, and I noticed that it's a long ago and it's just
a video game, you know what I mean. Like I noticed I was
just going along in the oh, let me just rob this dude here,
and it just becomes so easy. I was really trying to be all good,
so I'm assuming maybe it's just me being human about it. I'm assuming
these politicians that put airpotes. Yeah, I'm assuming they probably go in with
the best intentions, but we're human and they buck up and then they just
that's the line they take off, you know. Oh, well it's easier
doing it this way. You know. That's just my take on it,
And that's probably why it's so easy for them to do all these these evil
acts. For sure, for sure. And by no means am I comparing
a chicken to a human being, right, But but you get you get,
you get where I'm coming from, right, It's it's a normalization process,
right, Yeah, it would be great. Yeah, I just wanted
to reinforce that to people. I wanted to kind of got our way back
into flat earth for a little bit, because I wanted you to share your
six silver bullets for the normy glovers, both with the from the scientific angle,
but you also have a few from a religious angle. So I'll let
you take the floor my six silver bullets when it comes to and by all
means, listeners, I am just now getting into this into into the biblical
aspect of stuff. But from what I can from what I've gathered. My
first silver bullet would be NASA. It equals deceived and Hebrew, you know
that just means deceive. My second bullet would be that earth tilt and all
of NASA's calculations add up to six sixty six. My third bullets would be
Polaris is stationary. My fourth bullet would be that water is level, seeks
level, and I yet to see any level any water stick to any ball,
unless it's just a little little little drop of water. Uh. And
the last two songs nineteen one with bon bronze tombstone, which obviously state that
there's a firmament up up above, and the Book of Genesis. That's my
religious my my religious sore bullets, just because I mean, really, if
if you're a god seeker, you know truth, I mean, really,
just enough right there, just six sixty six and all their calculations should be
the eye openers. And also with the water being level. Now with my
regular bullets would be uh, we see too far. Video and photography we
just you know, at one video or that photography of the Chicago skyline and
then that one of the mountain peaks that were seven hundred miles long or far
away. You know, that's just that's that's phenomenal right there. Another bullet
would be that we are corkscrewing through space and explaining that to a globe.
I mean, like when it got explained to me that we're doing all that
crazy stuff, you know, aerobatic slash and whatnot, that just kind of
like that was a brick wall to my to my mind, man, I
was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that makes no sense. Also,
another good one would be the moonshade is warmer in the moonshade is warmer
than the moon lights. That's an interesting one and I actually got to prove
out myself, and I was just mind blown because like the next thing,
you know, I learned from you know, we're going around the Sun and
the Moon's going around us in some outeries in the Sun and the Moon are
the same size. But I mean, what even though the ninety three million
miles away, it just makes no sense, doesn't make any sense. Another
thing would be the treaty. Why is it that we're at peace with the
treaty and the Arctic Treaty. But yet again, where I wore when it
comes to to anything else, all of NASA and aviation pilots. They they're
uh, they're graphs their paper when when they're they're briefs, you know,
when they're learning it says fly like you are in a stationinary plane like that
means you're not moving, So that what what else? You know that Look
it all up, guys, everybody just look it up and it's it's there.
And then yeah, that was my last one for the regular bullets,
so it's it's so yeah, I brought two related you know, one,
two different opinions for depending on what my situation will be like you know what
I mean. Yeah, they were, They're all great, and a couple
I wanted to touch on was that like the numbers. Obviously, I think
most people know what the six sixty six is, whether or not you're religious
or not right, so, and all of them, whether it's the axis
which is twenty three point four, subtract that from right angle you got sixty
six point six, you know, early at sixty six thousand, and again
it goes back to the old coincidence that you know one or two, sure,
but you just can't look at all of them. And also one that
we've mentioned before, and by the way, I've mentioned this a couple of
days ago. We're going to do a standalone episode in the next week or
so where I'm just going to for an hour kind of explain like Manly p
Hall's The Numbers and the Symbols where he said that once man understands their secrets,
which are numbers and symbols, a great veil will fall upon mankind.
And part of that happened in twenty twenty with COVID. But it's important people
learn how to, you know, read and understand the numbers and symbols that
are put in front of us. But the other one you had mentioned Psalms
nineteen one on Von Brown's Tombstone and speaking of rabbit holes because you said,
you know, you went flat Earth first, spit back out. Now you're
starting to go into different things. Have you looked into the operation pay per
clip yet? Oh? Man, Yeah, apriclip you always the other one.
It's Dominic, Yeah yeah, Dominic and Fishball. I said, it's
Steff Fishball. Ever we go, it's just so many dude, Like really,
I just like dove in like but deep end, what's up? Yeah?
When it comes to uh who circum was it? Uh? We went
around the talk tide. I forgot the guy's name that went around the whole
Antarctic and he charted, uh what three years on that three years and sixty
thousand miles or something. I mean, if you look at all the old
data and you're trying to like see that can even be another bullet point right
there, because how can you chart three years out there sixty six thousand miles?
And yet again they're saying that it's only what twelve thousand and so you
know when you can go around Antarctica it's in twelve thousand miles or whatever.
Yeah, how can you not take what's old information and bringing into something just
because someone else says it's not true? You know what I mean? So,
yeah, I got into paper Clip into a high jump. I looked
at all that and that's where, like I said, it brought me into
two part flatter and I just forgot all the names, and there's just so
much information. There's just so much information. And when they uh, which
was it where the paper clip was the one where they brought all the scientists,
all the Nazi scientists over and then Walt Disney and uh Stanley made that
all that lone landing. Yeah, Stanley Cooper. Yeah, great movie,
movie recommended. Huh. The lighting on that movie was was pretty great.
Man. You can see yeah, I you see shadows going back and forth.
Yeah, yeah. How can you trust the U Nazis man or you
know, you didn't? Really Nazi didn't lose a war Germany. He did
And that's something that that that's that has to be true because they came over
and they started all the rockets, they started shooting them up, realizing you
can't break through the firmament, which I don't really like. I have a
question for you. Do you think that in Europe? Do you think that
we lived in a dome or or or how? How do you believe the
firmament is? I think the firmament is something that's unbreakable. There's something in
the Bible having in front of me right now that kind of lays it out
where it's it ever expanding and obviously God made something that only he could destroy.
He made it too. I think it's clear to a certain extent.
I do think it's kind of clear, but there's no way man could get
through it. But if you look at the chain of events, you know,
in the right after World War One, high jump. I think they
did find the firmament. They realized that we were enclosed. So and they
did try with dominic and uh fish bowls, sending those huge missiles kill a
ton missiles trying to break through. They couldn't do that, see, and
I I mean, I don't mean to endure up, yeah, trying to
bit out you think so? So you think there were using those as lights
and mapping it out, well, I mean both. I mean they're gonna
hey, you know, the two birth one stone. They try to try
to break through and then see how big this this, this, this,
this, this this spermament is. That's a good point, Like you know,
they started up and they because I seen I saw the pictures, I've
seen the all that good stuff and this show that seems like they were really
trying to pinpoint how big or how massive it was as well. You know
what I mean, why wouldn't you. Yeah, maybe they were trying to
get means there, you know what I mean? Yeah, maybe they were
trying to get a correct altitude of high how high the firmament is? Yeah,
exactly. Yeah. See, and I feel like like a lot of
people think that we are in the dome, and I used to think that
when I first got you know, I started diving into it. And then
uh, I was watching a lot of Sean Higler's of videos and is his
podcast interviews or whatever, and he kind of makes sense, See water makes
water levels, right, And if the sentence the waters above as the water's
below, right, what makes you think that maybe the waters above is at
level as well? It's just a plain field, Like maybe we are in
a in a just an infinite playing field, just like space would be.
You know, it's infinite, how they would maybe the top Maybe NASA is
in quotes telling us somewhat of the truth that there is outer space, you
know, infinite space, and maybe it's just an infinite plane instead. You
know, that's just where I started, Like that's where I resident now.
It's like, you know what, we are probably in an infinite, infinite
plane, which also makes me think that we might be in a simulation because
obviously, if there's a creator, I feel like, hey, you know
what, this is his simulation of what he's thinking. He sees what he
made this, and this is what we are in his creation. So that
also goes to where, you know, what was that explorer that flew over
Attarctica and then he found other lands, which, yeah, I feel like
it wouldn't be it wouldn't be documented if there wasn't anything else, especially if
he's in the military back in the day. I'm sure he's not trying to
do get home. I'm gonna make a cool little book here. I'm gonna
just write extra stuff. Yeah, I don't see I don't see a military
military. I mean, I guess now, yes, but like it's all
I'm back, you know, in those times. I don't think they would
be messing around. I'm just gonna write a little science fiction book and or
fiction book whatever. And so I feel like we are in an infinite plane
where we are literally like in the video game, it's just playing flat.
Obviously there's mountains and hills and valleys and whatnot, but we are an enclosed
plane system, infinite plane system. Yeah, And with that being said,
that's possible. And again, if if you could only really humanly go so
far to be away from the sunlight, et cetera, where the temperatures would
probably be so insane you couldn't survive, that's interesting, I mean, And
then once again it goes back to we'll never know because they they've outlawed us.
We can't go down there again. You can pay twenty thousand dollars to
take into Deception Island or or Rothschild's Island, but you're not free to explore
down there, which is again we hate Russia so much. But as far
as Antarctica were buddies, and as far as the International Space Station, we're
buddies. But everything else we hate you. Yeah for real. Yeah,
and it's interesting. I mean if I was if I won the lottery,
if I got billions of dollars, I wouldn't even spend that on me.
I would be like, hey, I'd pay everybody hundreds of thousand dollars.
Let's go, Yeah, let's go. Let go. What's down there?
Guys? All your experiences, it's it's done and paid for it. Why
don't we make that movie Assault on an Antarctica? We should? We should,
And yeah, it's like we'll adopt it like Red Dawn, except where
going to Antarctica? Right right? Yeah? Having greaty, you know what,
even if you know what, even if someone were to say, hey,
you know what, I'd pay everybody just to storm the the the wall
of the Antarctica A lot of people wouldn't even do it. Oh no,
even if it's like guaranteed paid, you know, you just storm the the
I guess suors. Let's say they wouldn't do it, man, and I
would. That's kind of sad. I don't know why people don't want to
explore. I was telling this too. I was talking to my to my
to my girlfriend now at the time and now, and and I said I
would totally just go. And she's like, why why would you go?
I'm like, because man, there's could be other land out there. It
could be anything down there. You know. She's like, well, I'm
I'm have my life ear. I'm like, okay, whatever, dude.
I'm actually so glad I can talk to her. She's a glover. She's
gonna listen to this. It's a time I was just gonna listen to it.
If she's gonna go out and listen to it anyway, Yeah, I
called her clover. But either way, she she lets me, she lets
me, she lets me express myself. So it's pretty cool. That's over.
That's awesome really being you know in this is kind of like your your
circle friends kind of just shrink a little bit. Yep. I'm all good.
I mean you can see you all your true friends are. I guess
another another great analogy you made was polarius, because if we are spinning and
hurdling, why isn't it in a different place all the time. And I
think that's an important piece of the puzzle too, to understand that it's it's
a skyclock. We're not moving the sky is Yeah, it's because the light's
so bright or whatever. I forget how David, why is breaks it down?
But it's so far but yetty and so bright and you know it's it's
a natalle just lie when it comes to that, which to me and one
of the things that brought me closer, I mean that closer. I mean
it well brought me and kind of realized and helped me realize that we were
in a plane in a station area plane was I have stigmatism, right,
so you know I have a shaped eyeball. I take in the light a
lot different than most people. So when I take in light, I see
rays and no matter what, I guess what, you can say the distances
I see the different rays, that's her rays, no matter what. So
when I looked at the sun, I imagine myself I imagined like there's a
post in the sun is basically a light post from outside, you know what
I mean, a daily light post, And I just imagine there's a post.
So I if any all your listeners, can you bear with me trying
to explain what I see and how I with how I basically analogy that analogize
even a word that we are that the sun is local. So me looking
at the sun, I pretend that there's a that's on the post, and
if you ever walk under the post, you can see. Man, all
I'm trying to say is, dude, ninety three million miles away does not
make a sense. And after everything that does not make sense, I'm trying
to really express myself with this so your audience can understand where I come from.
When it comes to the sun rays. When you're looking at a light
the sun, the light the rays goes straight forward. When you're in a
in a when the light is close to you, that's when you can see
the rays going off to the different size, to the different angles and whatnot.
So if y'all imagine that the sun is on the post, you can
just walk under it and you can literally basically see that it's a local light
source that it's not coming from almost one hundred million miles away, you know
what I mean, Like, that's just outrageous. So that I guess that's
one lucky thing of me having a statementism that made me realize easier to comprehend
that we are in an enclosed system. So nope, I explained it,
not blach to that. No, that was clear. And the one last
thing of one of your bullets I wanted to touch on was the photography and
the video one. Obviously we can see too far, which proves the curvature.
But and this is something that we should talk about more as a community,
is the things they portray as stars and planets in their pictures and what
we see with our own eyes are two completely different things, and they should
be made to answer for that. Oh, I agree with you. I
agree with you. I'm like, I can't afford a breaking P nine hundred
or P one thousand and their expensive cameras. But the people that actually the
videos that I seen produced by those cameras up to the stars and just they
look pretty different op to do what they're compared to what they are compared to
what NASA is telling the population. You can see that they look like they
are underwater, like they glimmer. They you know, they're they're reflective,
they're whatever, but they look like they are underwater of some sort. And
also have you seen I don't know if you notice the when you look at
your camera and you look at the moon and you zoom in, it's at
first it's it's kind of blurry, and we use them in clear, you
know, closer, it renders to look like a nice moon. Yep,
therefore it's it's fake. That's even big too. Yeah, I don't know
if you've ever done that before. Next time you go out and outside,
go with your camera, look up the moon, zoom in with your own
camera. Because it's connected to the enginet, your camera cannot recognize it.
And you can even do it at your house with the with the with the
clear uh white paper as a moon. Yeah, you know, make a
little bit dark or whatever and zoom in. It will render all the craters
and stuff on your on your phone. Interesting. Yeah, it's pretty cool,
little trie. I've done it once a couple of days ago, a
couple I've done it a couple of times a couple of days ago. I
just couldn't believe myself. I was just like, what the hell, dude,
I have the own personal moon in my house, in my room.
It was it was pretty cool. It was a pretty cool little little trick
which I want to video and actually show people that they can do. Yeah,
and it's a shame because a lot of people in the suburbs and the
city have a lot of light pollutions, so they can't get a clear shot.
I'll never forget I was in Uh actually I was in California, Fort
Irwin, California, which is where the National Training Center is. And also
in certain places in Iraq when there's no light pollution, the skies are incredible.
And I really wish I had something like a P one thousand in those
places to just get crystal clear renders of these things. And again, I've
had people who send me videos of the stars and the planets and it is
nothing what NASA. You know, they paint these colorful things with the rings
of s and just all these other Now when you look at Saturn, uh,
you know, it does have a little ring and it's kind of sideways,
but it's silver goldish, right, And and again, like you said,
especially with the stars, uh, and again it goes back to Genesis
one. It looks like it is in the firmament because it's shimmering like light,
like it's in water. Yeah, and yeah, it's I don't know
why I did see, man, but it's it's a it's a lie on
top of the lies. It is. For sure. This has been a
banger of an interview. I've had a lot of fun talking to you.
I wanted to give you the floor for any other things that you wanted to
cover. If you haven't yet, you know, I know, I'm I'm
gonna be helping Dave where I here. But your listeners, if you have
not gotten that app, check that app out. I'm learning a lot,
guys. I'm like, I'm new to this and that app just opens up
so many doors. Check out Sean Hitler's uh flu next always level level with
me in Next Level. If anyone wants to talk to me about it,
Man, I'm new to this. I'm I'm open for any discussion. Really,
Uh, just open your eyes, man. If it doesn't seem like
it's right, just check it out. That's really all i'd say. Man.
And if like I said, hit me up on Facebook or Instagram or
whatever, and I'm here to chat with y'all. Yeah, for sure.
Make sure I'll put Dave's link in the in the show notes as well,
as long as make sure you use our our code. It's f E files
and we get a little not not financial credit for it, but we're like
we're number six out of all the people, so that lets Dave know that
people are here in the show, and uh, they're going over there to
to help him out because Dave works is behind off. He does two sometimes
three in reviews a day and he's done more for the flat Earth community than
anybody else does, so I'm glad to help him out. And on top
of that, it's just such a great tool. Every single day you get
a new video. During the week it's like five minutes. In the weekends
it's a little longer. There's a question mark you click on that it answers
almost every question that you could have from well, it doesn't answer questions,
but it'll give you things to ponder on so you can draw the answers yourself.
So definitely check that out. And of course, Mario his email will
be in the show description. It's Megatrocity three at outlook dot com. And
then I'm going to close this podcast with two questions to Mario because obviously you're
listening to this podcast, but you can't see all the Beatles memorabilia, memorabilia
that's behind him. So I'm gonna ask you, what's your favorite Beatles song?
Oh, dude, on well my guitar gently wee? Oh man,
have you ever heard Prince and Tom Petty play that at the uh that memorial
show? No, I didn't get a chance to. Well, when you're
done here, go to YouTube and it's Prince he plays the guitar and Tom
Petty and Jeff Lynn and I think one of the children of one of the
Beatles, maybe it's Harrison's kid. And it's such an awesome it's like seven
minutes long. It's really awesome. Great song though, can't go wrong with
that. And then did Paul die in sixty six? Or is that a
hoax? Yeah? You know what, I kind of believe he did.
Man, I don't want it to be true, but I kind of I
actually dove in, like I dove into it and did a lot. The
face structure, man, the base structure is just slightly off. I mean,
I maybe because of age or whatever. You want to call him,
but I feel like he got replaced back in sixty six and that's why they
stopped touring and whatnot. Yeah, one of the videos it might be if
he died. Maybe he died in was it Strawberry Fields? Or when he
starts playing the guitar right handed and they nudge him and then he starts playing
left handed over and he's starts playing it. Yeah, I think it was
Strawberry Field. You know what? Another another flatter flat Earth. I don't
know if you have a little bit of time. The movie Yellow Submarine,
right, Yeah, sure, I don't know if he's seen it, but
there's this and this kind of goes into the whole meat thinking of the infinite
plane. Right. So there's a scene in the movie where they're in the
Yellow Submarine. The Beatles are trying to gather each other out to find so
they could buy they could bite the Blue Nannies, which if you haven't seen
The Yellow Submarine, it's a very good musical video of them and whatnot.
And there's a scene where they walk into a room and there's full of heads,
right, and they're all like like white. I guess I don't know
how to describe it was just white heads, but in the middle you can
see the brain, and the brain is just like different pictures. And there's
one picture where it has the has the United States, has uh, British
and has England and has other different things in every year, and there's like
hundreds of them, right And to me, I kind of I kind of
broke it down to them showing a map of like the don't like the different
ponds. That's to what I took from it from that video. So and
also, man, there's there's a lot of stuff that I wanted to talk
about. Man, it's so much. There's also uh the four Corners when
it when Flanders from Simpsons is talking to part and I don't know, I
mean, I don't know. I think you can hear this audio this Holidays
commercials boo YouTube. I'll turn up the stream. Hey oh yeah. So
basically right there when he walked up, he walked up in the little hill
and to me, it's another flat Earth reference because they're basically in sprinkld is
located in uh In in the middle of the United States, and in the
top of the hill and they can see the four corner, they can see
the io Nevada, and I forgot the other four cities. But to me,
that's a flat earth preference where you can see long distance. Y.
Yeah, yeah, the truth. That's a lot. That's awesome, man,
It's been a great conversation and uh a link up again down the road.
It's it's a great time. And I like to uh sometimes keep a
light to and have a conversation about the beat because again, uh, they
do tell the truth and they use the media and entertainment music as disclosure.
So you've got to really be pay attention and be aware of everything in your
surrounding. So again, man, it was a great conversation. God bless
you. Any final words for the listeners. Yes, Uh, the greatest
trick the devil, the devil ever pulled was pretending he never existed. Ye.
Yeah, that was Paul Harvey back in sixty six. He gave that.
He gave that speech too. That was tremendous. Yeah, great advice.
Well again, thank you to all the listeners for your continued support.
Thank you Mario for your time and your insights. A lot of a lot
of great insight today, So thank you all. God blessed for Mario.
I'm George. Keep your head on a swivel. God, bless y'all.
And until the next time we meet my friends, we will see. Uh.
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