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All right, welcome back to the
Ken Matthews Report. My pleasure to have

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Jay Dyer on. Jay is an
author, comedian, TV presenter known for

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his deep analysis of Hollywood, geopolitics, culture. I see your graduate work

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focused on psychology psychological warfare, which
I'm totally into every parent is UH film.

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And I see you're the author of
two books. Of course, we

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have them both here. I finished
the first. I'm starting the second,

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UH Esoteric. I's old. There's
a third book now, so I need

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there is. Yeah, I got
a big fat philosophy book that's out.

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So cool. You're co creator and
co host of the television show Hollywood Decoded.

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You've been featured on numerous popular shows
and podcasts. Yeah, I've seen

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you all over the all over the
UH the interweb system, and you've debated

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with some of the top debaters,
and I those are pretty interesting too,

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because there's a lot a lot of
MUZZLM debates in the last five years.

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That was I would imagine new domain
to step into there with Islam. I

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grew up doing a lot of debates
because I was in the philosophy club and

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debate club and all that in college. So I have a long history of

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debate. But I had some friends
that were really into debating with Muslims and

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they kind of got me into that
in about twenty eighteen. So that's been

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an interesting track. I didn't really
know you know much about Islam, So

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you deep dive by muslim and what
are some of the things you debate.

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Are you debating the tenets of various
religions or belief systems or Americanism? What

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are you debating? Well, it
started with when I got into more of

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the geopolitical stuff back in undergrad.
I was reading some of the texts that

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dealt with understanding nine to eleven,
understanding Islamic world views, and so forth.

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So I was looking at Islam at
that time from a geopolitical perspective,

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and I got really interested in the
history of British intelligence and their tendency to

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work with various Islamic radical sex and
tribes, going all the way back to

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philby Philby senior into T. E. Lawrence and people like that. So

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I read a lot of books on
the Muslim brotherhood historically speaking. So I

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didn't really have an interest in Islamic
theology. But about twenty eighteen, I

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had some friends that were debating Muslim
theology, the Kuran and so forth,

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it what it claims, and so
I just moved into that. I got

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pretty pretty interested in I'm not at
all an Islamic expert. It's a there's

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a lot more to Islam than people
think, you know, getting into it,

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it's it's a pretty dense subject matter
because they have not just the Quran,

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but they have all these hot deaths, which is all oral traditions and

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so forth that they try to suss
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started with the interest in the geopolitical
stuff, and then I got more and

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more into debating it from an orthodox
Christian perspective and opposing opposing Muslims from that

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vantage point. Well, regarding your
book, again, I can't say enough

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good things about it. Because Jay
and I were talking earlier. My audience

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knows this. I'm a bookaholic,
I'm a read a holic, and I

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get gifts from my audience, my
subscribers all the time. Just check this

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book out, check this book out, check this book out. And I

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have this thing where if I give
someone a book and they don't read it,

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I get ticked off. I don't
know about you, but if I

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go to the if I take the
time to buy a book for my son

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or my neighbor, and then two
years later it's all dusty and daye.

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You ever read that book I gave
you about whatever? Hollywood or Biden?

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And no, I didn't have time. I was busy being brainwatched whatever.

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But this one is this is so
good I find even though this is what

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this is probably seven or eight years
old, isn't it this one twenty sixteen?

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I think, yeah, okay.
So the reason I like it is

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because it's so relevant to where we
are today with all this this pre programming,

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you know, that we're doing with
Hollywood, the sort of conditioning and

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right sometimes people call it predictive programming, which is kind of warming people up

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to where they want to take us
through, you know, through fiction and

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the stuff I found most fascinating in
here. And then for the audience,

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we'll get out of the book.
But I just wanted to mention that if

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your this is your cup of tea, guys, this whole juxtapositioning of H.

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G. Wells and you know nineteen
eighty four, Hawksley and or Well

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all these different people had a different
spin, but they were all trying to

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set the stage for something very unpleasant
for us all, and you can't help.

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But wonder, as you have mentioned
before, and we know this,

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the government is so in bed with
Hollywood and publishing and news and information.

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And that's I think two things happened. We get dumbed down, we get

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normalized to whatever it may be,
fake aliens, fake vaccine, fake virus,

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whatever. So tell us a little
bit about your background. How you

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ended up being I mean, this
is an interesting job you have. You

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tie in comedy. Is that because
you're a smart ass like I am?

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Or Yes, I was a class
clown in high school, so I won

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the superlative of class clown, so
I was always joking around. And back

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in high school, I was known
for impression, so I would always impersonate

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the teachers, and everybody thought that
was funny. And it's just something I've

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always had with me. I did
do a little stand up when I was

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eighteen nineteen, just experimenting with it. I decided that's not the route I

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wanted to go at that time,
so I went to college for At first

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it was religious studies and then I
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was at undergrad, I was really
interested in and a lot of what I

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was seeing on the internet with regard
to documentaries coming out that were kind of

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questioning nine to eleven and questioning big
events. And so I started reading more

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and more about the history of secret
societies, the history of espionage in the

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United States, and I just really
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so I took film classes at the
same time, and I was noticing that

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while I had these multiple various interests, they were all kind of tying together

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unexpectedly because I had one class called
I think it was called Hollywood History,

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and we did a deep dive into
all of Oliver Stone's basically in a whole

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semester on Oliverstone. And so I
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to, you know, our best
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even films obscure ones like Nixon.
Most people don't think about Oliverstone and

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his Nixon. Everybody thinks of JFK
and so forth. But so I got

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deeper into JFK stuff at that time
and was really noticing that there's a pattern,

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not just a conspiracy, but maybe
there's more going on with how fiction

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portrays historical events, and there might
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Now I'm not saying that necessarily Olivers
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I'm not saying no. I'm just
saying that I was encountering some of the

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academic literature talking about films used as
propaganda. And you know, I was

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in my twenties at the time,
twenty four to twenty five, and I'd

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never heard this. I thought I
grew up as a movie buff, loving

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you know, Martin Scorsese movies,
loving you know, Richard Donner movies.

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And I remember watching mel Gibson's Conspiracy
Theory back when it came out in the

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nineteen nineties. I thought it was
fun. But then I started to thinking,

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well, what if there's actually something
that's true in there. Maybe mel

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Gibson's character isn't just a satire,
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some true things. So I went
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between the intelligence as he has been
gone in Hollywood, and I think in

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the two thousands. At that point, I was only able to find maybe

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two or three books. There was
a Operation Hollywood, which is a collection

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of essays on the Pentagon basically telling
studios at times what they want in there

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for pro war propaganda something like that. And there was another book that Tricia

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Jenkins had put out CIA in Hollywood
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know, those were okay, they
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But I got really fascinated with this
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of it, Like what who came
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let's use the studios. And I
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the camera, you know, the
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soon after the invention of the camera, people figured out that this would be

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great for propaganda. We got to
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what happened. You know, you
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studios when they're set up War one
exactly one. And what is the movie

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that just came out, well,
not just came out, came out a

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couple of years ago. I forget
the name about Hollywood at the turnblon.

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Yes, did you see it?
I did? Yeah? Actually I liked

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it as well. I thought it
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the few in my opinion, that's
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you look at the actors and the
actresses in it, I mean, it

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was it was real. I just
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the top. It was dark,
very dark. But it's one of the

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few. I mean, if you
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the other ones, but Avalon was
one of the few that really went deep

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and dark about Hey, you know
you're gonna go to Hollywood, You're gonna

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get chewed up and spit out because
Hollywood is not about entertainment. It's about

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moving people's opinion. It's about getting
people to do what we need them to

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do. Maybe one week it's by
this kind of soap, or maybe next

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week it's bottom the living hell out
of Afghanistan. That's why they're there.

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Yeah, well said, I mean, I think that's the essence of the

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great thing about that movie was the
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what people think Hollywood is and why
they come here. That's actually a movie.

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Like your idea of it is that
it's going to be like a movie,

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and I'll move there and and what
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other films as well, I think, you know, David Lynch's Mahon Drive

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kind of has this theme too,
where yeah, the Naomi Watts character,

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you know, she wins some contest
and she moves to Hollywood. She thinks

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she's going to be the next you
know, Ava Gardener or whatever, and

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she ends up a crack whar uh
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film, right, So again,
very perceptive. I totally agree with what

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you said there, and really,
yeah, that's the point here. What

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we think of Hollywood is is it's
a fiction. It's not what it is.

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What it is is this machine,
and it's not just a machine that's

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based around greed and wealth, you
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you said, think other things too, like prop again and perhaps even darker,

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more nefarious agendas. And so yeah, that that that scene with you

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know, Toby I think's Toby mcgwah
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I think it was very like at
the end where it's like, what's

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really going on in Hollywood is like
underground, you know, like midget alligator

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death parties that are going on.
It's like, well, I don't know

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what this is, but it looks
terrible, like Ozzy Osbourne underneath the city

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eating rats with midgets and stuff.
Anyway, So yeah, I thought Babylon

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was great. And this speaks to
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right, the ancient empire Babylon.
Yes, this is why, of course.

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Uh, the prominent occultists Kenneth Anger, you know, when he wrote

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his book Hollywood Babylon, he's calling
it Babylon a purpose, and I think

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it's kind of you know, it's
it's had that that connection for a long

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time, and that's I kind of
see my books as like better, hopefully

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better versions of Hollywood Babylon. I
would I would agree, because I've read

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that as well. I find yours
very well researched. And uh, I,

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like I said, because of what's
happening today and because of our lives.

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I'm a little older than you,
probably a lot. I don't know

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how old are you, but sixteen, just in my sweet sixteen. Yeah,

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I just went through puberty. I'm
twenty one, so I'm a little

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bit older than you are. But
I didn't mean to put you on the

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spot like that. I don't care. I am fully clothed, by the

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way, I do have shorts on, so sometimes I'm in my boxers when

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I want to interview with it.
But I started, you know, I

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got my degrees in political science and
communications to probably two of the most useless

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degrees there are, well, you
know what philosophy is close to, and

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all those degrees you can use as
place mats at a diner. You know.

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Yeah, you don't know how many
times I heard the joke like,

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are the philosophy companies hiring? You
know? It is funny, though it

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is funny, and the irony is
so came. I came from a conservative

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family, blue collar. Both my
parents had businesses. I grew up in

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construction and ironically, my mother had
an art gallery. My dad was in

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painting and construction. So I had
a very well rounded went to North Carolina

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State, was studied pre law for
one year. I realized that most lawyers

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or whores, not all of them, but most are, and some are

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actually crack horse, as you mentioned
earlier, not even in Hollywood. Then

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I decided, you know, I'll
keep political science and media. I fell

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in love with radio. I did
just a brief stint in radio forty years

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Wow, and ended up guest hosting
for Rush Limbaugh. The last four years

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of his life. And I've just
had some very interesting exposure to I did

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cable television for fifteen twenty years,
and the thing I kept seeing was nobody's

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following the Constitution. People that claim
to be churches are not following the Bible.

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People that claim to be documentarians are
bs ers. This is a pattern

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I started to see. Even in
college. I started to see this pattern,

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and and then I just became an
information junkie. I started reading heavily,

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also like you in my youth.
But now more than ever, our

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ignorance is it's strangling us. I
mean, so many people are so far

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behind, and many are not.
They're not behind because they're bad people.

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They're busy, and and media knows
this. So when we look toward the

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news, you know, Action News
at six everything you need to know twenty

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two minutes with fake traffic, fake
weather, and you know of bullet points

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from Washington. So now it's like, will we ever catch up? Will

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people ever figure out? You know, yes, mock you know Project Mockingbird,

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Blue Jay Real and k Ultra Real. Uh, you know, poisoning

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our own troop, poisoning populations,
all real everything that many of us were

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talking about three years ago during COVID
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world. But because there's a lot
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the time. Maybe they're busy building
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they're physicists or working on something else. I'm just trying to figure out,

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how do we get our country back? Do we get it back or is

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it going to be forever changed because
of all the misinformation. The misinformation is

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so overwhelming. You go into a
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and the censorship is just abhorrent.
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the alligator allat Now. I remember
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theological treatises down there. I would
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basically purged everything except a small section
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of their their it's a wealth of
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all purged down to a small section
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read Hobbes or Descartes and compare it
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find it anymore. And when you
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governments, including our own, they
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don't understand that. We know he
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he was so evil? Yeah,
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needed access to those things, you
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from an academic perspective. So you
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be able to read all of the
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mal anybody. Yeah, but now
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design, because they have assumed and
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education is it's one percent total brainwashing. Now, in my view, public

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schooling was always intended to be that. If you go back and read Horseman

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and John Dewey, they actually said
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schooling system would be the socialization of
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not learning to become a critical thinker, but actually shutting down critical thinking and

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turning you into a cog for the
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the when they come out and say
that compliance is necessary. Yes, as

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you transition from childhood to adulthood,
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shot and I'm not supporting Ukraine exactly. Yeah, you can't have critical thinking.

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was handing Jones for people that don't
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on that section in Bertrand Russell's classic
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where he says that in the dystopia, we will be able to tell the

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public that snow is black, two
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questions it or thinks otherwise will be
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he says that will be the strength
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will be so effective by that point
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I'm a woman. I'm a woman
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just that you combine that scientism with
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just believe experts and believe scientists,
it doesn't matter what they say because they're

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already trained. Look there's Obama.
He's wearing a lab coat doing an Obamacare

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commercial. He's he must be medically
knowledgeable. I don't know what John's saying,

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but look, my wife, my
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Mike's a budiful one. Okay,
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and so Ken, I think you
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a great example of that gas lighting. I mean, there was a there

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was a situation where you had people
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was saying that she was black,
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red hair, and everybody sort of
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dare you try to say that you're
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Women can say that they're men.
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actually was in charge of a regional
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that so you can't use your basic
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the ability to say, well,
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was surely not that far. I
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would think we're crazy. But we've
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twenty years. For twenty years.
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who fought the Japanese in the Pacific
wattlecanaw, et cetera. And I often

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think, I said, he's not
spinning in his great grave. He's like,

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he can't he can't even yeah,
he can't even grasp. Like first

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it was open borders, Yeah,
different restrooms, just the whole concept of

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our military engaging in a mission with
no AMMO. You could be at the

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order. The guns are kind of
scary, but don't know none in the

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chamber, none of the gun Like
being overrun. Watching that was heartbreaking last

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week at al Paso, watching the
National Guard with all their kit except what

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they needed, just being overrun by
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to somebody twenty or thirty years ago, they would have been that's not gonna

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happen. So the fact that the
fact that a Supreme Court justice says,

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I'm not a biologist. I can't
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so far beyond I mean we have
gone beyond your book were no exactly.

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We already believe everything we see in
the movies. The commercial people still believe

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Joe Biden. Yeah, it's gotten
way crazier than you know what. So

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a lot of those essays I was
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twenty tens, and they are already
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I think. I mean, obviously
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Fabian socialist model where they roll it
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out a big thing that kind of
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of course gay marriage was a big
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was Woman of the Year and I
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was like a huge It seems like
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all the trend stuff exploded. They
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outlet proclaiming a man as the woman
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me, was like full on,
Okay, we flipped into we can tell

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them to plus who's five now that
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you've taken. You've taken, like
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about when you compare Huxley and George
Orwell, when when you look at Orwell's

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kind of like, it's gonna be
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gonna be like flat painted armor vehicles
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And then Huxley brave new world is
there's gonna be ai, there's gonna be

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messaging everywhere, and you'll just willingly
do it. You'll willingly. So what

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I think is happening to the world
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the worst of both worlds. So
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that man's a woman, will just
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the hard, strong handed, heavy, you know, it's supposed to be

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kind of stalinist. Oh yeah,
it's dark and gray in prison and yeah,

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and everybody's smoking like you know,
generic Victory cigarettes and Victory gin there's

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only one brand and it's really shitty. Uh So you can I interrupt for

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a second. Do you do you
follow Greg Greece? Yeah? Yeah,

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you know he's in Moscow now right? You knew that? Right? He

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messages me about being going to Rush. I didn't know. No, he

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knew to Moscow. I didn't know. I didn't know that. Yeah,

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he's been there for two months and
he's doing his podcast and everything. Oh,

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he lives in my He just meant
he was visiting. I don't know.

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the same thing. Okay, Yeah,

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And for people who don't know,
Greg is one of the journalists and

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posts on Alex Jones and Jay is
on Alex Jones and a lot of people

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have a love hate relationship with Alex
Jones. But then a lot of people

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have a love hate relationship with the
truth. It's kind of like, I'm

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really uncomfortable with this guy or I'm
uncomfortable with that human trafficking truth. So

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I'm just gonna block it out.
Well, whatever, unbelievable, folks we

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have, We have stacks and stacks
of news unbelievable. Yeah, so you

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know the funny thing about that frogs
are gay I've listen and Alex since two

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thousand and three. He was a
big part of, you know, getting

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me interested in a lot a lot
of these uh you know, more esoteric

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topics and related relationships. Ask you
and I. I remember the first thing

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I saw from Alex in two thousand
and three was a clip of him talking

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about how the CIA and OSS recruited
out of skull and Bones, and I

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was like, Yes, what's the
skull and bones things I got to see?

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I went read Sutton's book on skull
and Bones and that was a big,

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you know, key turning point.
So I've always been an Alex fan

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for many, many years. And
what's funny about the way media works.

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You probably know this, you're a
veteran of media, but like, you

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can get ninety five percent of things
right, yep, be spot on with

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all of your calls, and then
if you get one thing wrong, that's

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forever gonna supposedly try They're going to
use that to try to destroy it.

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So you get one one thing wrong, get one detail wrong, you're the

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worst person in the world, even
though you've called ninety five percent of things

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you know spot on. So and
he's very well researched. I mean,

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that guy's gonna read a haulic and
you know and again that this is gonna

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I'm sure some people are being triggered. So if you're a middle aged,

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white woke man and you're being true, just hug yourself. Hug yourself.

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Or if you can find about a
biological woman that wants to hug you in

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your triggered state, but or just
say you're a woman for a minute and

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then hugg exactly exactly. Just date
yourself if you happy to hear yourself for

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a minute, to calm down,
because for example, I remember hearing all

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the people trashing Alex's book, and
I think, of all the books he's

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written, this is his best.
It is you could take this book.

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We mentioned this before the show for
people watching. You could take that book.

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And I bought that book the day
it came out, and I read

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it and I reviewed it, and
so many people have read it and like

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had their kids read it. Because
if you take Alex Jones off the cover,

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it's just it's written like a great
history orian's book and with there's no

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hype, there's no and it's all
factual. Do you think Alex Jones is

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gonna risk writing a book at this
point in his career where anything is wrong

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in it, you think it's gonna
risk thirty eight billion more dollars. That's

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the funniest thing. The people that
have been labeled as extremist or podcasters or

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all journalist like we would be citizen
journalist. Altern We go to greater lengths

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because I don't have an NBC News
announcer exactly behind me, don't. I

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don't have marketing, incredible and digital
stuff. If if I'm a liar,

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I'm done. Yeah, someone just
does. This guy's a liar. I'm

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not paying for him. He's an
idiot. I'm not reading that book.

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But if you're telling the truth,
you're gonna keep getting out there. But

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it's truly, it's truly a battle. Yeah, we have a higher standard,

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and we saw that. We you
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stand because we're competing against that.
That's actually our strongest weapon. Right.

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The whole system is based around and
cocting and maintaining completely flimsy narratives, so

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they have a lot more work to
do. It takes all of that money,

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all of that deception, all of
that mass media glitz and glam to

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prop up what are basically lies.
So we have an advantage in that we

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don't even have to do all of
that. We can just keep hearing at

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the truth and that gets us much
further than them. That's why, you

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know, the mainstream media is dying, the legacy media, you know,

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down they can't get viewership, and
they just keep doubling down, and so

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it's really they're eventually gonna have to
figure out that they're gonna have to cave

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to the truth some to even get
any viewers at all. So I'm kind

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of surprised that they haven't brought on
some you know, better pundits. But

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it's so it's so locked down,
and they're so so it lies that they

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just have to They always double down. They don't even they don't fudge at

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all. Yeah, the leftists in
particular, they never they never know when

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to stop. So, like you
say to them, look, you can't

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have a six foot four, sweaty
guy with a junk hanging out in a

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skirt telling for you know, fourth
graders at the library. This is not

406
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.440
a thing. This is not a
normal thing. It's if I did that

407
00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:22.119
at the park, I'd be in
cuffs. You can't do you can't do

408
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.279
that. So rather than them saying, oh, maybe we maybe we over

409
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:30.160
extended a little bit, we're out
in front of our skis, let's pull

410
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.920
back. No, no, screw
you. Yeah, we don't want to

411
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.720
buy into this. Will will destroy
you. And it's like, wow,

412
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.599
you guys are making a mistake,
because what's happening now is most people believe

413
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:48.319
twenty twenty was stolen because so much
fact is coming out. Most people believe

414
00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:52.400
jan six falls flag. Absolutely no. The whole world knows that the the

415
00:30:52.440 --> 00:31:00.720
Whitmer kidnapping thing was now stage.
So it's like you guys were so busy

416
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:06.559
trying to say penis equals vagina,
penis equals vagina that all the other stuff

417
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:11.880
you do on a regular basis,
like steal votes, rig the stock market,

418
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:17.200
sink the dollar. You know.
Now we're like, this seems very

419
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.319
normal. Now. I think you
are doing this stuff because you keep saying

420
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:26.200
that my daughter should compete against the
boy because he's wearing a girl swimsuit.

421
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.799
Now I'm starting to believe and I
think I think that's why people are flocking

422
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:37.440
to Trump now. I mean Trump
is the most diverse base ever. Yeah,

423
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:41.559
it's crazy. And I think you
nailed it there because I noticed even

424
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.240
in a lot of people I know
with family members that were still kind of

425
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:48.240
hanging on to elements of the system. Once they went after everybody's kids and

426
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.359
once the kof happened in the lockdowns, that woke up a lot of people,

427
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.400
right, I mean a lot of
people were like, wait a minute,

428
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:59.240
they actually want to chop off junk
of my kids. They're like that,

429
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:01.640
it's that crazy. And hey,
maybe those conspiracy theorists were right,

430
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:04.839
you know what I mean. Like
I put a meme. I put them

431
00:32:04.839 --> 00:32:07.920
a meme yesterday and it was basically
just a list of like fifteen things that

432
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:13.519
the journalists were saying versus what the
conspiracy There's everything that the conspiracy theorists were

433
00:32:13.519 --> 00:32:17.279
saying was absolutely spot on. So
yeah, I think anybody has a memory

434
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:22.480
too that's not restricted the last two
weeks. I remember, and I was

435
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.880
never a Democrat, but I remember
back in the two thousands, even in

436
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.599
the nineties and the two thousands,
it was a Democrat talking point to have

437
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:34.279
a border. Yes, they were
all about this, always talking about it.

438
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:37.799
I remember clips of Bill Clint We've
got to have that border. Yeah,

439
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.039
we got shut. We got to
close that border, and that was

440
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.599
because of they pandering, I mean, oh yeah, claiming to care about

441
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.000
the workers. They didn't want the
you know, wages to be driven down.

442
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.160
They don't want to have a damage
to their working class base. It's

443
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:55.519
bizarre that now that's flipped to yeah, you've got Biden up there. You

444
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.640
know, there's no problem with the
border. Uh, it's just open.

445
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.039
It's I mean this to me,
this is crazy and it's actually obvious,

446
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.599
like this is a strategy to actually
destroy the country. Oh yeah, well

447
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.480
no it's yeah, it is.
It's an invasion, it's being that's what

448
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:15.559
it is by definition. People think
they still and a lot of the Conservatives

449
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:20.839
are still stuck in this mindset of
well, it's incompetence, the government's run.

450
00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.680
No, it's not in confidence.
It makes perfect sense if this is

451
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:29.799
a strategy. Okay, that makes
more. That's a better explanation, has

452
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.440
explanatory power, whereas everything being just
total government and competence, that's not that

453
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.920
to me, that doesn't make sense. But I I think that's the hardest

454
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:45.079
narrative two process or the hardest truth. And well, I want to ask

455
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.359
you dig deeper into some of this
truth stuff. But to me, the

456
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:58.079
hardest truth is most of what happens
is intentional. It's not coincidence. And

457
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:05.200
when something horrible happens, chances are
there were people on the inside helping it

458
00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.119
to happen, whether it's the fentanyl
coming over the border because so many people

459
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:15.599
are getting the cut of that,
or the child trafficking, which again,

460
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:19.920
what did the what did the blow
hard GOP establishment tell us at the beginning

461
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.960
of the year, We're gonna we're
going to expose the January sixth tapes.

462
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:27.000
No you're not. You have it. We're gonna let we're gonna find out,

463
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.599
We're gonna show you who was on
the Epstein list. No, you

464
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.039
have it. We're gonna make sure
we never have another stolen election. No,

465
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.320
this one's gonna be the worst because
you're now making it illegal to call

466
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:43.880
out people that steal the election.
So it's to me it's the hardest thing

467
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:49.079
when you mentioned because people are so
programmed to say, oh, you're not

468
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.519
one of those, You're not one
of those Alex Jones. You're not.

469
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:58.159
Oh Ken, I thought I thought
better of you. Are you a conspiracy

470
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:02.079
theorist? You really think that big
pharma wants to put a needle in every

471
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:07.039
arm and make a seventy eight billion
dollar profit. Yes, I do.

472
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:14.719
Yeah. You know, so many
of the things that people were saying back

473
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:17.800
in the eighties and nineties that were
very small in number, John Birch society

474
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.360
type people, they were really way
ahead of their time. I don't think

475
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:24.199
they got everything right. They got
some things wrong, but the overall ideas

476
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.960
of what they were saying back in
the day they were born out vindicated.

477
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:32.119
You know, what Alex started saying
in the nineties and the two thousands has

478
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:36.599
been born out vindicated, and everybody
was always the essence of what was being

479
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:43.559
said was that there is a shadow
national security state, secret government. It's

480
00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:45.440
kind of in the open. It's
not secret in the sense of like nobody

481
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.280
knows who's running this. No,
we know who the you know CFR is,

482
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.679
we know who the Trial Latoral Commission
is, right, but they're not

483
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:59.159
publicly the ones like telling everybody on
the news what we're going to do as

484
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.159
foreign policy. They're telling the politicians
what to do, and the politicians then

485
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:07.079
play this game. And so you
know, I don't know if you saw

486
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:09.000
that New York Times thing, the
other day, which is completely ridiculous.

487
00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:14.960
Their video explaining what the deep state
is. Oh, this is so funny,

488
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.679
right, the TeleVideo is like,
there is a deep state, and

489
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:21.000
actually it's pretty awesome. And then
they go and they explain the deep state,

490
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:22.920
and it's like a trecky nerd,
right, this boomer who's a trucky

491
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:28.000
nerd. It's like space Force.
And then there's this other woman who's a

492
00:36:28.039 --> 00:36:32.320
bureaucrat who's like going after I don't
know, the tap water to fix the

493
00:36:32.320 --> 00:36:35.719
tap water. And she does pilates
and so it's like, oh, look,

494
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.199
it's just farmless bureaucrats. It's fat
office women. That's the that's the

495
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:43.079
deep state. No, the deep
state is always everybody's been saying since Peter

496
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:47.400
Dale Scott coined that term, that
it's a national security breakaway shadow government.

497
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:52.679
That's the deep state, not fat
bureaucrats in offices, and it's not people

498
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.679
that run that run the local grocery
stores, people that can send a team

499
00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:01.480
to your home to arrest you,
Roger Stone or whatever. The deep The

500
00:37:01.519 --> 00:37:09.320
deep state is smart, powerful elite
people that know as long as they control

501
00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:15.559
the storyline, they're going to get
more power, more wealth. Yeah,

502
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.280
and that crosses you know. I
always say the one time that Democrats and

503
00:37:19.559 --> 00:37:24.599
Republicans get along is when their power
or wealth is threatened. Then their buddies.

504
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:30.920
Then they're bipartisan. They're living their
elbow bumping tim you know, Mike

505
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:36.079
Pence is a great example of that. Yeah, I got a great I

506
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.719
got a good I just came across
this book looking at We were talking earlier

507
00:37:38.760 --> 00:37:44.119
about footnotes, and I found a
great footnote of this really obscure former British

508
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:49.920
intelligence guy wrote a book. His
name is James Rushbridger. It's called The

509
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.960
Intelligence Game. Oh nice, it's
a great book. What he says in

510
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.280
here is he says, look,
I was, you know, working in

511
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.480
British Secret Service for many years.
He wrote this, I think in nineteen

512
00:37:59.519 --> 00:38:02.320
eighty nine. So this is prior
to you know, a lot of events,

513
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:06.280
you know, the Big Nine events, so forth. Well that's more

514
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.039
of Russia, right before the Soviet
Union collapsed exactly. He says. This

515
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:14.480
is something that's been so born out
and I've heard a lot of really perceptive

516
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:16.599
analysts say this. Patrick Henningson has
said this, Alex has said this.

517
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:20.519
He says in the first chapter he
says, if you want to understand the

518
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:24.920
intelligence game, he says, a
lot of the major intelligence failures are actually

519
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:30.400
the biggest successes for the intelligence agencies, he says, because all that does

520
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:34.360
is allow the deep state to say, oh, sorry, we messed up.

521
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.159
We oops, we let you know
the towers come down, let's get

522
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.880
get a few more billion in funding, and we'll do much better next time.

523
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.440
And also let us surveil everything.
So he was calling that out in

524
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.480
the nineteen eighties. And by the
way, I think the story is,

525
00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:50.320
I don't know this is the case, but he wrote a book about Pearl

526
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.440
Harbor being a false flag, and
mister Rushbridger wasn't alive much longer after that,

527
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.239
So well, that doesn't surprise me
at all. We just had that

528
00:38:58.280 --> 00:39:02.519
Boeing whistleblower. And that's the other
part of you can always tell Jay who

529
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.599
reads history and who does her research, because when you say something like you

530
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:12.920
just said, I wasn't like,
oh, come on, they don't kill

531
00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.760
authors. They're not going to keep
they're not going to keep wiki leaks.

532
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:22.280
Dude, Julian Assange locked up for
ten years until if they're whistle blowers,

533
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.280
that's a little that's a that's a
higher tier. Right, Oh yeah they're

534
00:39:27.320 --> 00:39:30.400
dead then yeah, me or you
we're just kind of goofballs on the internet.

535
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.280
We're talking, you know, we're
on the media, we're pundits.

536
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.800
But if you're a person who's a
whistleblower, that's a lot more. You

537
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.199
know, well, if you start
moving the needle. Because I look at

538
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:46.480
like Cheryl Atkinson, she really loved
the Neil at CBS with Fast and Furious,

539
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.159
and the Obama administration reached out as
they always did and said you better

540
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.480
stought that and they do it and
then and they were going to frame her

541
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.280
husband with porn online porn. She
said that in front of Congress. You

542
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:06.039
look at Catherine Herridge, most just
recently fired from CBS, right, she

543
00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:08.960
was at Fox. She went to
CBS and then they took all her stuff

544
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:13.639
on Jay six and then they gave
it back to her five days later.

545
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.800
So when you the minute, the
closer you get to the truth, I

546
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:22.400
think that's where you become a target. And I have one of my shirts

547
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.760
says tell the truth, become a
target. It has a big like scope

548
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.800
target on it, and that's the
truth. It is when you if once

549
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.159
you start someone picks it up and
goes, holy crap, how does this

550
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:37.480
guy finding this stuff out? Where
is he learning this? You know,

551
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.519
is he going to be a problem? Is this? Is this Boeing whistleblower.

552
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:44.199
By the way, the CEO Boeing
resigned yesterday. Did you see that?

553
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.559
No it didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's something

554
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:52.480
about the doors just being sucked off
the aircraft in flight that really gives Boeing,

555
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:57.880
you know, Unfortunately the whistleblower being
dead. Yeah, the whistleblower being

556
00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.119
dead a few days later. I
mean, that would have been a dream

557
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.800
story for them if he actually got
sucked out of the plane, but he

558
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:12.199
didn't. Yeah, it's just it's
so weird to be you know, ironically,

559
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.360
going back to the beginning of the
conversation, now, I feel like

560
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:15.199
we do live in a movie,
you know what I mean. It's like

561
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:20.599
we're in this weird dystopian story.
It is The Truman Show. It's like

562
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:22.320
an art house film. We live
in this weird art house film. It's

563
00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:28.400
a dystopia and like, yes,
you know there's this yeah craziness. There's

564
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:31.840
a book called The Wanting Seed.
You know Burgess who wrote Clarckord Orange she

565
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:37.079
wrote another dystopia that few people know
about called Wanting Seed, and in that

566
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.280
dystopia, kid you not everybody.
It's a mandatory gay dystopia, so everyone

567
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:46.920
has to be gay in the future. He's probably playing on the fact that

568
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:52.320
in Brave New World Huxley had everybody
have you have to have mandatory intimacy.

569
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.920
So if if there are people coming
up to you and say, ken,

570
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:00.760
I'm in the mood today, I
want intimacy, you must oblige. In

571
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:05.840
the Brave New World a topia,
So I'm guessing that perfect world for the

572
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.320
Biden family. Though exactly right,
you think about it, so, I

573
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.639
mean, people think about ewetch shut
and it's like, what if the whole

574
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.559
society is a giant? Iwead shut, But you have to have intimacy with

575
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.719
everybody. Oh wow. Other things
too that were that I didn't notice until

576
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.679
recently reviewing Brave New World is that
there's also a pedo element to Brave New

577
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.960
World that I that I had missed
the first time I read it many years

578
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:35.679
ago. The world Socialists controller Mustapha
mind. He's pictured at the end of

579
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.760
chapter two or three as a kind
of a christ like figure, where he

580
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:44.559
says let the even sites, let
the children come unto me from the Gospels.

581
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:49.599
But the context is that he's talking
about the playtime that they have,

582
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.039
the intimacy that they have. Wow. Yeah, So Hawksley was actually saying,

583
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:58.599
you're not just going to have a
sexual revolution type of future, which

584
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.400
by the way, he wrote that
thirty years but for the sixties, which

585
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:05.519
is amazing. I mean, when
you think about his intellect, I mean,

586
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.119
go ahead. I mean that's why
he's also saying it's going to be

587
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:15.880
a sexually like everything goes no boundaries, exactly none. And that's the other

588
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.599
thing when you when you read some
of this CIA documentation and stuff, and

589
00:43:21.639 --> 00:43:25.519
there's so much stuff out there written
by FBI people and CIA people and people

590
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:31.039
that were mk ultrade, and there's
so much cross referencing available. That's the

591
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.840
thing that drives me crazy. It's
not like there's one it's a one off.

592
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.000
There's just like one book that Jay
wrote, and you know, Alex

593
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:42.960
wrote a book, and Huxley wrote
a book. One book. That's it.

594
00:43:42.960 --> 00:43:46.079
That's all you have to go on. Ken No, I've got thirteen

595
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:52.519
books on COVID nineteen. I started
getting the books and doing the research in

596
00:43:52.599 --> 00:44:00.119
the spring of twenty twenty, I
started building this library of the audio and

597
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:07.800
the documentation of all these doctors that
have now come out repeatedly, including the

598
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:12.960
latest documentary, which is Brilliant,
which is free, it's on Vimeo.

599
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:17.039
But and and it's not a one
off, like like I forget the guy's

600
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:23.320
name that the Satanist who he used
to work at the presidio. He was

601
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:27.599
an ENTA, thank you. See, I know you would know that,

602
00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.400
But I mean, he's not one
off. There's a whole bunch of Satanists

603
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:37.280
in the military today, and we
facilitate them the same way we facilitate you

604
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.360
know, the the lieutenant or whatever
his rank is in the Air Force,

605
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:46.599
that's a that's a guy in drag
and he goes around and he gives speeches

606
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.639
about how we need to be more
sensitive as a as a military. Yeah.

607
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:55.719
I was thinking about that. Like
back in the Cold War, if

608
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:00.079
you think about the Cambridge aspiring,
they were all compromised and blackmail because they

609
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.639
were gay, right yep. And
I was thinking like, well, I

610
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:08.679
guess the one advantage of all of
the military establishment, you know, brass

611
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:13.480
being trands, is that they can't
be blackmail like you know, they're totally

612
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.199
degenerate. I mean, you get
blackmails somebody, they're totally degenerated, right,

613
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.400
So that's the only advantage of that. But now I think it's crazy.

614
00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:22.960
It's intended in my view, it's
an intended demoralization to have those kinds

615
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:25.440
of things going on. Right,
So when we look at you know,

616
00:45:25.519 --> 00:45:30.920
our supposed leaders and their complete buffoons
like you know, Biden or these military

617
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:36.000
brass and so forth, being wearing
you know, costumes, I mean,

618
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.159
it's just a demoralizing thing. So
it's a to me, it's a sy

619
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.000
op. And you were mentioning earlier
various programs in cult is a classic m

620
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:47.000
Culture is the ultimate, like you
know, studying the inner world to master

621
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.599
the mind, I think, for
the purpose of mass formation, psychosist type

622
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:58.119
stuff, to apply it to the
to the collective. But you can actually

623
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:00.519
read them in culture. Doctor's books
are still out there people. Yeah,

624
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:05.519
but doctor Jose Dolgado's Physical Control of
the Mind. You can still buy that

625
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.159
book on Amazon. You can buy
the writings of doctor John C. Lilly,

626
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.400
the freak who had a crush on
dolphins and would put you know,

627
00:46:15.079 --> 00:46:20.679
the LSD and the dolphins food.
He would put chips in the dolphins' brains.

628
00:46:20.719 --> 00:46:24.039
I mean, guys mad science basically. But he's well known. And

629
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.400
it's interesting because what you bring up
now is what so many of these puppets

630
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:32.400
protests. They're going to show up
and say, you know, don't don't

631
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:36.199
kill the beef. We shouldn't be
eating beef. Don't kill the beef,

632
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:37.960
don't kill it. And they're working
for the people who are like basically you

633
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:42.880
know, taking chips in the dolphins
brains or or you know, uh,

634
00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:47.639
they would bring over in Operation paper
Clip. They brought over all these Nazis

635
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:51.440
And what did the Americans say,
Well, we're going to change your name

636
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:53.199
and we'll put you up. Don't
worry. But hey, how did you

637
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.880
figure out how how you know,
yes, jet pilots can drink salt water?

638
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:00.719
Well, here's how, here's how
we did it. Well, they

639
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.159
can't, but we kill a lot
of people. We learned the hard way.

640
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.159
But we did find this out that
you can hang a guy upside down

641
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.400
on the freezer and he'll last two
and a half hours longer. How'd you

642
00:47:09.400 --> 00:47:13.360
find that out? Well, we
had a bunch of people to experiment on.

643
00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.679
You want to see the results.
Yeah, And no one even talks

644
00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:22.880
about that. They're busy saying you
and I are misgendering somebody. And to

645
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:27.679
get to this point, so many
people had to be tortured. I mean,

646
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.920
I definitely want to have you on
again mental note in the future,

647
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:37.320
because there's so much to talk about, like the whole HIV thing, you

648
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:42.119
know, the whole I did,
all this stuff that had so much of

649
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:46.719
the government's fingerprints on it. When
you think about that, how poorly some

650
00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:51.559
of it worked out, and then
you go back and realize they recycle the

651
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:55.239
same people. Yeah, I watched
a mini documentary on that the other day.

652
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.400
Who's the woman? Her name escapes
me? But it wasn't actually Auci

653
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:05.119
that was running all of this.
Fauci perfect. Yes, doctor Bird,

654
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:10.039
Her and Fauci come from the old
Act. They were right in the middle

655
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:15.239
of that. They were right in
the middle. And you can find bootleg

656
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:20.599
videos either on TikTok or rumble.
You can find videos where people were confronting

657
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:24.920
Fauci about the AIGE thing. Yes, there were parents showing up and saying

658
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:30.440
you killed my son. He didn't
even need that. He could he could

659
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:36.880
have went to South America or whatever
and gotten whatever that day's Ivermectin was right,

660
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:39.480
because what did they do when people
said, oh, I think I

661
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:45.199
know what's happening here, whether they
were in the Congo or South America,

662
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:47.320
I think I know what's happening.
We can treat this with this and this,

663
00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:52.639
And it was the government that said, no, you need to take

664
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:57.679
what was the age thing, a
z T or you need to take this,

665
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:01.920
just like you need to take remdes. That's the protocol, and that's

666
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:05.599
the only way we're going to get
rich. You need to be ventilated.

667
00:49:05.639 --> 00:49:07.599
I don't need to be ventilated and
I breathing. Fine, No you're not,

668
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.880
Yeah exactly, you know, yeah, that that's even though Fauci is

669
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.400
not quote mk Ultra, it's basically
the same type of math science approach that

670
00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:21.239
the mk ulture doctors were engaged in, which, as you pointed out,

671
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.760
it's a perfect mirror of what you
see Mangola and these other you know,

672
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:30.880
Nazi scientists engaged in. They had
a very eugenics based view, so they

673
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.199
didn't see any problem with experimenting on
humans, and so that same model is

674
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.880
moved or accepted as well, as
you pointed out with paper clip, where

675
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:45.800
they didn't just want some of the
the you know, bad guys to come

676
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:50.239
over. They actually wanted access to
their their findings, their research as well

677
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:53.199
as a lot of people don't know
this. You probably do, but this

678
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.320
ties it into the Ukraine. A
lot of people don't know that. When

679
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:04.039
the OSS took over Galen's network,
Galen Worry, that's Righthard Galen. They

680
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:08.239
wanted his whole spy network throughout Europe
because he was a very capable spy handler,

681
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.079
spy chief. So they gave him
a deal. They said, we'll

682
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.679
let you have some freedom, but
we want all of your spy network and

683
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:21.239
your trained cells and operatives. This
is partly why there is still a pro

684
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:27.440
Western funding and support for the Neo
Nazis in the Ukraine. That goes back

685
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:32.119
to Galen's network. Now, didn't
he train people in Canada as well?

686
00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:37.559
Yeah, that's what I thought.
He trained. I don't know if he

687
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:42.360
was on the super Soldier thing,
but he trained people in like this really

688
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:51.360
radical, unorthodox combat and today there's
a lot of that. Ian Fleming was

689
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.559
involved in some of that too,
where they would train people it's called the

690
00:50:54.599 --> 00:51:00.079
ex Brigade or something like that,
like the X twenty two or something.

691
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:04.760
Like that. So yeah, they
were. They were experimenting because the British

692
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:08.679
Coordination Office of Black Ops was working
with the OPC, which was the OSS's

693
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:13.679
Coordination of Black Ops. It's British
intelligence set up the OSS. I mean

694
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:16.760
they came over here, they told
us how to do it, so they're

695
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.119
all, yeah, we're all working
together. So when they took over that

696
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.760
network, they wanted to utilize all
these different, you know, experiments that

697
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.960
the Nazis had engaged in. Absolutely. I mean that you look at the

698
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.800
time limit and for people watching now
you know why I'm a fan of Jay's

699
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:36.360
but you also know why we love
history so much because it's it's not only

700
00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:42.960
all connected, but you look at
that period in America immediately after World War

701
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:50.960
Two into the mid fifties, and
you look at the transitional pieces of history

702
00:51:51.639 --> 00:51:57.920
and how the chess board totally got
upended. I mean the chess board in

703
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:05.079
nineteen forty five, you know,
after we after Germany surrenders, after I

704
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:08.840
forget the Japanese leader's name, but
after he surrendered all and then all of

705
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:16.639
a sudden, the chessboard changes and
the most unlikely partnership start, and the

706
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:22.519
most horrific people are, and there
were already some. But I tend to

707
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.800
believe that early in our the development
of our country, it wasn't as bad

708
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:34.519
until people got a taste of global
power. And then when they started sitting

709
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:40.719
down with this leader and that dictator
and this terrorist, they thought, wow,

710
00:52:42.360 --> 00:52:45.719
I can control that whole continent.
You mean I could. I could

711
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:49.679
be a billionaire forever. Yeah.
All you got to do is sell out

712
00:52:49.679 --> 00:52:52.480
your people. Yeah. And by
the way, I remember too, the

713
00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:59.440
it was it's T Force that was
the thirty Assault Unit. Was Ian Fleming's

714
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:04.320
aid and it wasn't X Force.
I was thinking of this stupid comic book,

715
00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:07.599
but it was. It was T
Force was his experimental special ops thing.

716
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.679
But yeah, I think the dictators
are interesting because when we read Sutton

717
00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.880
and Quigley, we find out that
a lot of these dictators are actually propped

718
00:53:15.920 --> 00:53:20.880
up by the West. Yes,
and they have funding and support from the

719
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:29.159
West, and that was because the
powerly saw an opening to have two world

720
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:34.480
wars. According to Quiggley, that
would exhaust and deplete the two rivals of

721
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:37.920
the of the Western power block.
So by having those two roles, two

722
00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.960
world wars, and this explains if
you read quickly in that middle theer's a

723
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.920
middle chapter where he talks about the
appeasement program and he talks about I think

724
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:50.960
he says two billion dollars given I
think with the Bank of England to Hitler

725
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.920
secretly. So there's a sequel for
people that don't know that we're talking about

726
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.719
yesterday. So there's a chapter called
the Appeasement Plan, uh, and there's

727
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:02.519
there's a there's a section where it
talks about the two billion dollars given to

728
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:07.719
Hitler when the British government was publicly
opposing Hitler m hm, but the Bank

729
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.519
of England secretly was still funding what
he was doing and they were saying,

730
00:54:12.559 --> 00:54:15.159
hey, when you go into Poland, we won't oppose you. Go ahead.

731
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:21.199
And that was horrific as as my
ancestors are Polish and Hungarian, so

732
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:27.239
I was like, are you kidding
me? And Tom Clancy kind of fulfilled

733
00:54:27.280 --> 00:54:30.119
that role of Ian Fleming in the
next generation. That's a great point,

734
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:37.480
the next iteration of in particular submarine
technology, surveillance, space technology. I

735
00:54:37.519 --> 00:54:40.960
mean, look at look at the
books, and many people think he was

736
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:47.559
involved in, you know, consulting. Yeah, I think that's pretty well

737
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:52.719
born out. A lot of these
these spy writers do have a not everybody

738
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:55.800
obviously, but a lot of them
have a background in some kind of intelligence

739
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.119
and military intelligence work, and then
they take those worries and put it into

740
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.360
fiction. That goes back to Actually, this is kind of what I wrote

741
00:55:04.400 --> 00:55:08.960
my some of my grad work on
was the history of British intelligence using fiction,

742
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.880
originally perhaps as ways to just tell
their stories, but also as ways

743
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.760
to do propaganda. So, yeah, you mentioned it went back as far

744
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:23.000
as like the seventeen eighteen hundreds.
In the case of Writz, you could

745
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:25.960
find I mean, I don't know, I mean you could argue that maybe

746
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.800
you know, you've got people like
John Dee who are spies back under Elizabeth.

747
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.360
You know, he's the first Double
O seven doctor John d the Occultist.

748
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:40.320
But yeah, I think in terms
of British spy fiction, we see

749
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:45.199
this with Joseph Conrad, we see
this with Graham Green, where they're basically

750
00:55:45.360 --> 00:55:50.880
kind of putting their stories into fiction. But I think what happens is that

751
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:55.719
eventually it really becomes more useful as
propaganda. So I'm not sure exactly what

752
00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:00.360
date it would be. I mean, there's no hard line as so here's

753
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:02.480
the point where it becomes propaganda.
But right, but that, But that's

754
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.039
because at the same time as the
British spy fiction writers were putting out their

755
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:12.320
stories that you had AHG. Wells
basically as kind of the Burnees. Before

756
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:16.400
Burns, he was writing fiction as
propaganda, know England. So perhaps maybe

757
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.519
Wells is the first version of this, and he's realizing as he works with

758
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:25.159
things like Wellington House, which is
the predecessor to Tavistock, he's realizing that

759
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:31.039
fiction is a lot more effective for
propaganda masses than the fact media is.

760
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:37.320
So that's why War of the World's
everybody knows War of the worlds, but

761
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.880
nobody knows H. G. Wells's
two New World Order books, Right,

762
00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.840
he's got to right, Yeah,
those will knock you right on your butt

763
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:46.039
when you hear. When you hear
the way HG. Wells thinks about you

764
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:52.880
and about God and about Christianity and
about freedom, you're going to be pissed.

765
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:59.119
Yeah, he's a he's not a
big fan. Yeah. He believes

766
00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:05.039
that the future technocratic government will be
able to create a fake religion that's really

767
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:09.559
just a front for the technocratic establishment. So it'll be whatever kind of religion,

768
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:15.320
you know, basically mixes all the
world world's population into one belief,

769
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:20.639
some kind of synchrotist New Age thing. Who knows, but that seems to

770
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:22.920
be what he talks about, because
he has a really obscure book called God

771
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.559
the Invisible King, if you know
about I think he wrote it in the

772
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:30.280
early nineteen twenty eight, nineteen eighteen
somewhere in there. But that's his thesis

773
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:36.039
on religion. And he says that
you might think I'm an atheist because I'm

774
00:57:36.039 --> 00:57:38.079
such a committed Marxist, and he
says I'm not. He says, I

775
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:43.920
believe in a future Luciferian type of
government in order, so he admits he's

776
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:46.719
a Luciferian. He doesn't say that
he believes in an actual entity, but

777
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:52.440
he kind of sees it as a
Promethean thing where man worships himself. So

778
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:57.599
perhaps he thinks of Prometheus as this
symbolic figure or Lucifers. That's that whole,

779
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:01.639
that's that whole of what is it
God of John or God of whatever

780
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:07.559
that Oprah was involved with, that
guy John John of God. Yeah,

781
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:15.000
I'm not dyslexic. I just had
it back. But that Lucifer Satan.

782
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:21.400
You know, a ball and all
that. The focus is on you.

783
00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.760
Great you are. You don't need
Jesus, you don't need a God.

784
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.719
There's no one than you, and
that whole self help kind of stick.

785
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:37.559
I think one of the reasons it
appeals to dictators and as George Bush would

786
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:44.079
say, evil doers harrised. I
think it appeals to them because there's no

787
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.719
moral code to it, so there
is no well, you would never do

788
00:58:47.800 --> 00:58:51.519
that to a woman, you would
never do that to a baby, you

789
00:58:51.519 --> 00:58:59.440
would never do that to hardworking people. Being worshiping Lucifer is the ultimate ends

790
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:05.440
justify the means. Great point,
it's everything Satan does is it doesn't matter

791
00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.559
if you have to cut someone's head
off or or break this woman to get

792
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:14.000
her to comply. It justifies your
greatness. You know, Here's what I

793
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.480
think the key to that is,
I learned this back when I was studying,

794
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:20.880
you know, how statism works,
when I was underground. I think

795
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:24.760
that what this does is it's the
worship of the self, worship of Lucifer.

796
00:59:24.840 --> 00:59:30.079
Ultimately, that is a relativistic subjectivist
views. In other words, there's

797
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.840
nothing that I'm bound by. Ultimately, I'm my own arbitr of everything.

798
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.800
And the reason that the state or
the system really likes that. You might

799
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:40.840
think, well, why would the
state want me believing that I'm my own

800
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.840
god? Because what that does is
it puts you into a mode of being

801
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.519
a slave to your passions. So
what actually happens is that you're now a

802
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:53.559
slave too based desires. The more
that you feed into that self worship mode

803
00:59:53.840 --> 01:00:00.800
of thinking, and that makes you
perfectly pliable putty for the state. That's

804
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.360
why the state always pushes these kinds
of I mean, if you go back

805
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:05.800
to that Roman empire, right,
you can worship any gods you want,

806
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:09.400
just as long as you acknowledge also
Caesaro's God. So in the same way,

807
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:14.519
statism wants you to worship yourself,
and that ultimately means you're going to

808
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:21.960
be worshiping your base passions. But
the state will guarantee your pleasure dome living

809
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.480
as long as you then submit to
the state in that so that you can

810
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:27.800
be ruled by your passion. That's
the key to it right there. And

811
01:00:27.880 --> 01:00:32.760
the irony is the people, the
detractors of Christianity, and they attack Christianity.

812
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:37.559
I was just thinking of so so
many places in the Bible, it

813
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:42.760
says to be a good steward of
the earth, to be a good citizen,

814
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.480
you know, pay your taxes,
if your Roman, pay your taxes,

815
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:51.800
obey the laws, be a good
citizen. And the exact opposite is

816
01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:58.079
socialism and communism. They're like,
anything goes. Just do what we say

817
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.719
when we say it, and then
it's free for all. And I think

818
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.920
that's why you can get I think
that's why the left can recruit so many

819
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.679
people because they feel if I'm not
judged and I'm not hold to any standard.

820
01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:14.559
Yeah, I mean this this Obama
guy, this Biden guy is awesome.

821
01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:19.199
He's a Catholic. It's pro abortion, pro gay marriage. That's like

822
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:22.159
the ultimate Catholic. Yeah, yeah, it's a great Yeah. I think

823
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:31.840
they the the leftist mindset is ultimately
totally ironically a contradiction. And you know,

824
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:36.760
if you think about nineteen eighty four, it actually points this out where

825
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:42.599
it talks about double think, because
everything that the establishment is telling you is

826
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:46.719
the direct opposite of what actually is
the case. But people keep believing it

827
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.920
because they think or they're controlled basically
by this faith that they have in the

828
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:58.239
system. And so if you remember
and the most important chapter is when O'Brien

829
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:04.079
is having that debate about with Winston
and he says, look, Winston,

830
01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:08.800
the point of what we're doing as
the party is that you believe from your

831
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:14.679
heart that the party makes reality.
Because if you'll believe that, then I

832
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:19.039
have you as you He says something
that you're you're perfectly controlled or brainwashed.

833
01:02:19.079 --> 01:02:21.880
He's like, you're perfect at that
point, and he says, I don't

834
01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.559
want you to just say that two
plus two equals five because you think that's

835
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:28.199
what I want to hear. I
want you to say it because you actually

836
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.760
believe that the party can make two
plus two be five. And so that

837
01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:36.920
is a submission to the fact that
there's no truth higher than the state or

838
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:39.719
the corp state, whatever. It's
pure relativism. And so if they can

839
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:45.559
get the individual to believe pure relativism, then they will believe that the state

840
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:49.519
can dictate the tuplus two is five. Well, you mentioned that at the

841
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.320
very beginning. You brought up the
version of two plus two equals five equals

842
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:59.119
five. We're there now, yes, exactly, man Russell said version.

843
01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:02.599
Russell said that would be where we'd
be. Yeah, and that is where

844
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:09.679
we are now. So incorporating that
into wrapping things up some predictions, if

845
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.000
you will, What do you think
about an election? Do you think it's

846
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:17.719
going to happen, Do you think
it's going to be fair, or do

847
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:22.559
you think Kaka hits the fan?
Yeah, great question. I think we've

848
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:28.679
got basically multiple options that you know, a a deck of cards. They

849
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:32.480
could throw down, multiple options.
They could throw down an economic crisis.

850
01:03:32.519 --> 01:03:37.239
They could throw down riots, race, riots, these kinds of things stirred

851
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:42.199
up like we saw back at Ferguson. That could be a good type of

852
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:45.800
a strategy. We could have something
to do with the border, the illegals,

853
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:51.840
price, is there some kind of
something that's that's kicked off with all

854
01:03:51.880 --> 01:03:54.960
of the people that have come in, Maybe they've been trained or told what

855
01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:59.559
to do in a certain situation.
We could have, like you said,

856
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.679
something with Russia that postpones the elections. Maybe these maybe events happen and oh

857
01:04:04.679 --> 01:04:08.239
we've got to postpone the election because
you know so. I think all of

858
01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:13.960
these are very real possibilities we could
have. They might throw another curveball with

859
01:04:14.239 --> 01:04:17.320
COUVID Part two. I mean,
nobody in twenty twenty was expecting COVID,

860
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:21.880
right that came. We see in
March. Oh, there's these videos of

861
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:26.039
something weird happening in China. Haha, hope it never happens here. And

862
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:31.079
then boom, we're in this total
dystopia madness situation where nobody expected us and

863
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:36.880
we saw Bill Gates, Tadros.
They've been saying, get ready for COVID

864
01:04:36.920 --> 01:04:44.079
too. Yeah, I know X
they say. Tadros said at Davos,

865
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:48.519
right or the other world governments.
Something he said, COVID was disease X

866
01:04:48.559 --> 01:04:54.639
part one, and there will be
disease X Part two. So nobody's really

867
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:58.079
we keep forgetting about every time.
I'm not saying you, but people in

868
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:00.320
general. Every time was a big
new event. We started thinking, oh

869
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.519
that's the thing, right, So
now that we've had the Russia attack,

870
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:08.280
now, oh, world War three
is going to be the thing that But

871
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:13.039
they like to throw these curve balls. So I'm spitballing here, but I

872
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:15.559
still kind of think they might try
to do, you know, some kind

873
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:18.039
of disease X part two. They
were really talking that up. I know

874
01:05:18.159 --> 01:05:24.199
that the cancer cancer is getting a
lot of attention now because of Kate Middleton

875
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:31.639
and King Charles and the spike in
young cancer I just saw a big article

876
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:34.119
on it. I did it on
my show today. They're calling it turbo

877
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:38.920
cancer among young healthy people. Where
is it coming from? But you're not

878
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:44.920
allowed to say in the same segment
these people have been vaccinated also, probably

879
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:51.480
right, So it's crazy. Now
I want to talk about this is out

880
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:55.519
of left field. Your wife?
Are you and her on the same page

881
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.559
ideologically or does she think, oh
my god, he's reading another book.

882
01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.320
Stop. No, she's got two
books of her own along the same lines.

883
01:06:03.320 --> 01:06:05.840
In fact, that's how we met. Was on a podcast talking about

884
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:10.400
critiquing Hollywood. So she does a
podcast as well on YouTube. So HER's

885
01:06:10.440 --> 01:06:13.800
her name is Jamie Henshaw. And
the only reason she's not Jamie she has

886
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:16.159
Jamie Dyer, but because she was
already kind of doing Oh yeah, Brandon,

887
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:17.559
get it, I get it.
Yeah, yeah, we didn't.

888
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.000
Yeah. So she's out there doing
the same stuff too. You can get

889
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:24.480
her books at my side as well. I don't think you're a woke compliant

890
01:06:24.519 --> 01:06:28.920
man, not at all. Do
you have Do you have her books?

891
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:30.840
You want to plug while you're here. I don't have a copy. But

892
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:33.840
if you go to my website,
jays analysis dot com in the shop.

893
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.239
You'll see her books there as well. Yeah, we're books. We're going

894
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:42.760
to put that link on there,
so I would I would strongly recommend your

895
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:47.559
books obviously. And the beauty about
this is who hasn't seen movies? Who

896
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:51.000
doesn't like movies? I mean,
really, when you think about some of

897
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:56.199
the defining movies and the defining moments
in our culture, like you said,

898
01:06:56.199 --> 01:07:00.599
it's always been art, like ET's
my wife's favorite movie. You love that

899
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:08.760
movie, and and uh, but
when you think about the the predicted programming

900
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:13.639
and the narrowive, you know,
the something that I played and uh,

901
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.599
you may have done this as well. I played that scene in E T

902
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.159
where I was I was trying to
get across that the mask don't work with

903
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:26.440
COVID, and I played turns into
a powdered donut, and yeah, no,

904
01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.079
this was this was I'm sorry,
I'm thinking Close Encounters of the Close

905
01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.960
Encounters of the third kind. I'm
thinking of the mass scene, Richard Dreyfus.

906
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.239
Everybody's walking around. What's going on? I don't know, but it's

907
01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:45.400
terrible that there's bio release. Don't
walk out of the circle. You can't

908
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:49.239
come in here, sir, You
can't come in here and then he goes,

909
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:56.000
screw this. Yeah, it's like
you know, and it's a lot.

910
01:07:56.199 --> 01:08:00.039
Yeah, and how I don't see
how people didn't grasp What do you

911
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:04.400
think if you had to? And
this is another heavy question, but again

912
01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:06.519
I want to have you back on. We could talk for hours, and

913
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:10.760
I really want to have I hope
you'll come back on. We could crack

914
01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:14.880
certain books, open yours, we
can crack other books, and I'm sure

915
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:17.640
just in the next twenty four hours
Biden's going to do something crazy. I'll

916
01:08:17.640 --> 01:08:20.680
give us plenty to talk about.
But what do you think is the biggest

917
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:30.520
lie or misconception that the current population
in this country needs to get beyond?

918
01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:34.119
Like what's that lever where? Look, if you don't get beyond this and

919
01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:39.079
understand this is not real, you're
never going to get to the next level,

920
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:45.079
do you What do you think that
is the biggest problem philosophically is what

921
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:49.000
I said earlier, that people are
many people are still trapped in a bubble

922
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:58.800
of moral and epistemological relativism. They
think that there's nothing true whatever floats your

923
01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:00.640
boat, that we're not bound,
there's no boundary. I'm not bound by

924
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:05.279
anything. I can determine truth from
reality. If you never get past that

925
01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:10.399
stage one out of coming out of
that, you'll forever be a tool of

926
01:09:10.479 --> 01:09:14.840
the system. You'll be in double
think forever. So that has to come,

927
01:09:14.920 --> 01:09:17.920
that has to happen first, and
then manifestations of that are things like

928
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:23.119
the idea that we can, you
know, I can identify as a woman

929
01:09:23.119 --> 01:09:27.600
and be a woman, that the
magical thinking that my mind just makes it

930
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:30.159
real. I mean, that's the
root of this. And actually some people

931
01:09:30.239 --> 01:09:33.239
actually have talked about this. They've
even said that if you go back into

932
01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:42.760
postmodernism and early gender theory studies,
they were actually talking about magical thinking and

933
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:46.479
the idea that the mind could determine
reality and make it so. So I

934
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:50.079
think we have to get away from
that. That's the number one cheap delusion

935
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:56.000
that people have, and that would
then undercut all the rest of the delusions

936
01:09:56.039 --> 01:10:00.000
because you have to have that fundamental
delusion first. There's no truth before you

937
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.079
can start to say, hey,
wait a minute, maybe there's a truth

938
01:10:02.159 --> 01:10:08.319
higher than the state, the establishment
system, the corporations. Maybe they're actually

939
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:12.960
lying. Yeah, But to say
that there's mass deception of mass lying presupposes

940
01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:15.600
that there is objective truth. So
that's the thing that has to be hammered

941
01:10:15.640 --> 01:10:20.159
home. And and that's well put, and it fits the biggies, like

942
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.840
you look at the crisis, the
climate crisis, which is a crisis.

943
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:29.920
Carbon's not a threat, right,
we need it. We do better in

944
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.399
warm conditions. We're not unreasonably warm
right now. The Earth has been a

945
01:10:34.399 --> 01:10:39.399
hell of a Humans are not destroying
the planet by existing. And then yeah,

946
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.680
that whole thing and that also,
but again it goes back to what

947
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:45.319
you said, that magical thinking that
you know, Mother Earth, Earth isn't

948
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:48.439
my mother. I have a moment, right, you know, we need

949
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:54.199
to commune with the trees. No, we can grown trees over and over

950
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.520
and we can use the wood to
build. We don't have to make love

951
01:10:57.560 --> 01:11:02.520
to the trees, although I'm sure
there's people listening that maybe have, because

952
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.560
I mean, all the earth worship
stuff is. They tie that into the

953
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:12.560
latest push for veganism, for you're
not gonna eat meat. You know,

954
01:11:12.600 --> 01:11:15.279
we've been talking about that on podcasts
for many, many years, because I

955
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:18.760
was seeing in the documents of the
elites they were talking long long ago,

956
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:24.800
decades ago, about how eventually they
would have to ban meat because meat is

957
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:28.479
so nutrient dense of a food.
Yes, And so you know, this

958
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:31.640
goes back to Plato's Republic where Plato
says, don't feed the slaves meat,

959
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:38.039
give them grains, keep them docile. Right, Meat's a huge meat.

960
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:43.159
Diet is a huge vector point that's
overlooked by a lot of people. But

961
01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:47.640
even Bertrand Russell, Charles Golf and
Darwin they're you know, in their writings

962
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:51.880
on the Technocratic System, they talk
about attacking the diet. Yeah, it's

963
01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:56.600
amazing that you brought that up.
And then when you look at if you

964
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:03.680
put next to that the government what
they want to ban us from eating,

965
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:10.439
but what we're allowed to continue to
put in our body, like sugar,

966
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:14.399
sugar, sugar, sugar, yes, alcohol alcohol, alcohol, And then

967
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:16.399
what do the dens want to do. We want to legalize drugs. We

968
01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:20.800
don't want anybody thinking clearly, but
we don't want you getting you know,

969
01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:26.640
meat. And the other thing,
I one of my pet peeves is how

970
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.359
easy it is to supply a population
with water, you know, you especially

971
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.800
if you're near the ocean. It
you know, and no one does it.

972
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:38.800
I mean, we're the we're the
wealthiest, most advanced country, in

973
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:43.399
the world supposedly, and we can't
get enough water to people in California.

974
01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:46.800
You live on the biggest supply of
water on the earth. Just take the

975
01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:50.039
salt out of it. But no, they want to control it. They

976
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:54.560
want to control the water, right, They want to control the food,

977
01:12:54.640 --> 01:13:00.960
just like in Africa. They don't
want Africans and third world country and people

978
01:13:01.439 --> 01:13:09.199
trapped in famine. They don't want
them having generators to pump water and diesel

979
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:14.439
trucks to bring their props to market. The people in charge would rather have

980
01:13:14.520 --> 01:13:19.359
the food rot and then they can
have great fundraisers do things with the United

981
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:24.720
Nations. So I'm starting a whole
new show and we need to we need

982
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:27.720
to wrap it up. Well,
yeah, we can talk about food and

983
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:31.880
control resources and oh yeah, intentional
uh, you know, shortage and all

984
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:35.560
that. That's that's a key elite
strategy absolutely. So what do you have

985
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:40.199
coming up that you want to share
with people in addition to the you know

986
01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:43.079
you're working on a third book.
This is your second book, this is

987
01:13:43.079 --> 01:13:45.920
your first book. Your wife has
two books. So yeah, I've got

988
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.479
a I have a third book out
called Essays on Theology and Philosophy. It's

989
01:13:50.479 --> 01:13:54.840
about a six hundred page book of
all of the things that I wrote over

990
01:13:54.880 --> 01:13:58.600
the last ten years that are talking
about movies, So everything non movie is

991
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:01.800
in a new book that you can
get from the from the shop as well.

992
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.920
I'll work on us Esadar Hollywood three, so I got about a hundred

993
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:09.640
pages of that one written. Hopefully
it's going to be better than even Part

994
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:14.479
two. So I'm looking to to
really get deeper into a lot of the

995
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:18.119
intelligence connections that I didn't go into
in one and two, and new things

996
01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:21.439
that I've read and learned about with
the history of the OSS and Hollywood that

997
01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:25.319
I didn't cover in part one in
part two. So that'll be in Part

998
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.760
three probably in the next six months
or year. Hopefully I can get it

999
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:30.560
done by then. We've been doing
a lot of live events, so we're

1000
01:14:30.560 --> 01:14:34.840
probably gonna have a live event in
June again with Jamie Kennedy, the comedian

1001
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:40.920
from Scream, that will be in
Vegas. I think we'll have it do

1002
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:46.239
that in June. Host host the
Alex Jones Show every every Friday from three

1003
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:49.199
to four Eastern. Yeah, I
wanted to ask you when you when you

1004
01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:53.079
fill in for Alex. It's every
Friday. I've been doing that for the

1005
01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.279
last three years, so I have
a lot of fun, enjoy that quite

1006
01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:00.520
a bit. And then I have
a YouTube channel. What we do we

1007
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:04.199
do pretty much every two or three
days. We do a new live stream

1008
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:09.479
podcast, interview today all kinds.
So that's all my channel. Yeah,

1009
01:15:09.479 --> 01:15:11.600
you can follow me on Twitter.
I do. I put a lot of

1010
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stuff there, following on Rock Finn
put a lot of stuff there, So

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I'm all over all the social media's. If anybody wants to follow me,

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so pretty much you just search Jay
Dyer, You're going to come up with

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a lot of that stuff. And
then your website is outstanding. I really

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enjoy your website too. Thank you
dot com. Yeah, what's it called

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again? Jasanalysis dot com? Jasanalysis
dot com. Well, thank you again

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for coming on, sir. This
has been a real uh I love it.

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A great way to kick off the
week. Yeah, that was a

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great conversation, Ken. I really
appreciate it and definitely want to have you

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back on and absolutely stay in the
fight because I think we got to get

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more truth out. Absolutely