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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a new episode of the Poker Go Podcast

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special episode today. Obviously, if
you are in tune with the poker world,

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you know that there is a lot
going on in Vegas during the summer

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months June and July. Talent of
May does play into that now. But

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of course Tim and I have talked
at length about the World Series of Poker.

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We will continue to do so,
but we're gonna take a little bit

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of a break from that for this
episode. We're going to hit on the

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Aria Poker Classic, hosted at Aria
Resort and Casino, which is where,

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of course, the Poker Growth Studio
is held. They announced their series The

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Aria Poker Classic May twenty ninth through
July thirteenth, in partnership with bet MGM

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Poker a whole bunch of guarantees.
There's about twelve million dollars or exactly twelve

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million dollars in guarantees across the entire
series. They have buy ins ranging from

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six thousand, sorry six thousand,
six hundred dollars up to thirty five hundred

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dollars. The biggest and baddest event
of this series is the thirty five hundred

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dollars Bet MGM Poker Championship. It
has a three million dollar guarantee, multiple

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starting flights. It will be live
streamed in the Poker Ghost studio when they

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get down to a certain amounts of
what day three, day three. You're

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in charge of this thing. So
during the summer, as we've done in

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some some recent years, we will
have an additional stream coming out of everything

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that we're doing from the Poker Go
Engine here with that'll be to have to

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do with the BETMGM at Poker Championship. They got a bunch of other like

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crazy guarantees in here. They got
a sixteen hundred dollars mystery bounding with a

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five hundred K guarantee. They got
another eleven hundred dollars mystery bounding with a

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five hundred gay guarantee. They got
a sixteen hundred dollars No limit Championship event

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that's a two day event, five
hundred K guarantee. There a PLO Championship

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event. PLO is hot, we
all know that much. On schedule.

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This is the place to be if
you play faul cos I know it's it's

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pretty wild, but we're going to
bring in Ryan Kirk and Paul Campbell both

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representatives of ARIA. Ryan is the
director of Poker Operations for ARIA, and

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then Paul Campbell. If you followed
the PGT, if you follow anything that

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we do here at the Poker Gri
Studio, you know who Paul Campbell is.

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He is tournament poker manager for ARIA. He is a two time winner

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for the Global Poker Awards Tournament Director
of the Year. So with them and

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your assistant, I thought you we
switched. We switched. Okay, We're

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going to talk with those guys about
what people can expect from the ARIA Poker

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Classic and if you are venturing out
here to Las Vegas and looking to play

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some stuff, maybe you can put
some of these events on your schedule.

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All right, we are joined by
Ryan Kirk Paul Campbell from ARIA Poker Ryan

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Kirk, Director of Poker Operations,
Paul Campbell. I'm going to lead with

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two time Tournament Director of the Year, tournament poker manager and assistant too.

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No, not assistant to you're his
assistant. That's how it works. I've

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seen you guys in action. You
are much more his assistant than he is

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yours. But we are here to
talk ARIA Poker Classic, a pretty massive

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schedule. I would say, but
by you know, building every single year,

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it seems like it's it's awesome.
Took you guys a little bit to

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come out with it. I know
how that works. And you know we'll

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touch on like the logistics and all
the I guess the balancing act, you

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know, with everything that's going on
in the summer. But welcome, Happy

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to have you guys here, Happy
to be here. Yeah, thanks for

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inviting us. For those out there
living under a rock, Aria Poker Classic

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forty five events, more than twelve
million dollars in guaranteed prize money. Buy

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ins are starting at six hundred dollars
for like the regular event, the trophy

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events as i'll call them. They
got some eight hundred dollar events, they

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got a handful of eleven hundred dollars
events, and then of course the BEDMGM

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Poker Championship, the thirty five hundred
dollar buying that will ultimately finish here in

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the Poker Groth studio where we are
recording this podcast. So first question,

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I guess I want to hit on
because a couple of years ago it was

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like mostly four hundred dollar and six
hundred dollar events. Then it was six

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eight hundred dollars a few one ks. Now it kind of seems like it's

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it's has like a next evolution.
Still got those six hundred dollars, eight

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hundred dollar ones, a handful of
eleven hundred dollar ones. They come with

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some big guarantees on those. You
got sixteen hundred dollars in there. Of

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course, you got that thirty five
hundred dollars bet MGAM Championship, so that

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that evolution to me is pretty noticeable, you know. So can you just

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peel back the curtain a little bit
and discuss kind of the long term vision

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for like the Aria Poker Classic and
how it's come along over the years.

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Yeah. First of all, I
just want to say thanks again for bringing

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us over here and giving us the
opportunity to talk about this. I'm glad

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that it's noticeable. That definitely was
what we were going for. I've worked

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in this room now for over twelve
years and have seen the evolution, even

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going back further where we used to
have all four hundred dollars events two hundred

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and forty dollars nightlies, and it's
been really exciting to get us to this

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point. I've when I've talked about
it before it's kind of like playing a

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video game, and there are certain
achievements you have to unlock before you're able

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to get up to this, before
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the price points that we really were
aiming towards. It's a big credit to

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Paul and his team and the vision
that he has for our tournament poker landscape

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at Ario Poker and making sure that
we, you know, maintain relevancy when

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it comes to what we're doing in
the tournament poker space, and so knowing

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that we had to continue to push
the envelope and move us up towards these

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price points that we're seeing this year. You know, just last year we

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went from the four hundred dollars to
six hundred dollars price point, and we

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saw an over forty percent increase in
the number of entries across all of our

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events. And we were thinking naively
at the time that that might stunt a

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little bit of it, of course, from those price points, you know,

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pushing them up a little higher.
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thinking that well we could we could
go up to eight hundred dollars and eleven

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hundred dollars one days, and you
know, increase all the guarantees what we

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have, and these players want to
play at Aria, and that's what we've

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really embraced, is this understanding that
people love playing at Aria poker. Paul

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always says that, I don't hate
to steal the words out of his mouth,

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but our poker room is as big
as many tables as we can get.

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That's whatever tables we can get,
that's how many we will fill.

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People want to play here, and
we are excited about we're going to be

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able to do this summer. I
guess that's a perfect jumping in point.

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Tim and I have walked over in
front of the ARIA room. There's no

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more slot machines. Now, I'm
assuming that's where some poker tables are going

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to go from. From a logistics
standpoint, what is ARIA doing to accommodate

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the fields that are going to be
coming? Like how much of a lift

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is that? It obviously starts multiple
weeks in advance, with this series starting

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on May twenty ninth, That is
running May twenty ninth through July thirteenth,

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So how does that whole thing come
together? I'm assuming it's a big juggling

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act. Yeah, for most people. The World Series of Poker starts around

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you know, May and May for
me this year, it started last July.

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Once we realized the lift that we
had already experienced from an entry,

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you know standpoint in the amount of
business that we were doing, we knew

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that we had to expand, and
it was really easy sell to a lot

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of people here on property making that
argument that we can do bigger and better.

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Just give us a little bit more
space, give us a few more

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tables, and we're really this is
the most space we've ever had going all

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the way up if you're familiar with
the space out there in front of Poshberger,

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all the way in front of the
poker room over towards the bed,

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MGM race and sportsbook, and the
number of tables that we're going to fit

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in there. We're going to we're
gonna we don't even know yet. We're

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as it's like you said, empty. We're gonna find out here in the

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next week or so, but it's
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cram in there to make sure that
we have not only a lot less impact

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when it comes to alternates having to
make people wait to get into our tournaments,

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but we really want to make sure
that we are offering players a place

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to play over the summer cash games. You know, when Paul and I

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talked about getting more tables, maybe
Paul is a little bit more towards let's

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let's get more tournament entries and expand
it that way. And I'm kind of

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the cash game player at heart,
and I'm thinking, you know, I

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would really love to have some more
one, two, plo and two five

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games going all year round or excuse
me, all day long. And that's

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where my focus is going to be
with these extra tables, making sure our

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cash game players have a home.
What's the customer based like in the summer,

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obviously all around Vegas is like very
tournament heavy. So do you see

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that same sort of thing from the
players, Like are they like we want

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tournaments or do they also want cash
games? Like how does that kind of

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break up? We get a really
good mix. I mean, people do

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want to come here and play tournaments, but we are also known, you

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know, pound for pound all year
round. Our room is filled with cash

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games as many tables as we have, and so we want to make sure

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that we're not displacing those players who
play with us all year round. We

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noticed last year when we were able
to open up let's just even say like

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two five no limit tables, there
was a night where we got up over

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twenty tables of two to five no
limit. That's a staggering amount when you

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consider that we only had forty four
tables or excuse me, forty six tables

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in the entire room last year.
So we know that people want to come

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here and play, and we know
that early on. As long as we

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can show them that there's going to
be space for them, they'll keep coming

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out all summer long. So twenty
twenty two, the bet MGM Poker Champion

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has a million dollar prize pool guarantee. Last year it doubles, it goes

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to two million. Now it goes
to three million. Like from an operations

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side of things, you know what
goes into to not only setting a guarantee

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but also like pushing that envelope every
single year. I'm assuming you know you

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do look at you know, the
prior your success, and then you try

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and engage the market and all that
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goes into that process of a guarantee. Yeah, like you mentioned, are

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the inaugural bet MGM Championship was in
twenty twenty two. We had the million

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guarantee. It was our first event
that we'd run with the bet MGM partner,

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and we ended up with three hundred
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We covered the million. It was
a sweat. Admittedly, how much

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of a sweat were you actually sweating? We were. We covered on redge

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clothes, on break cloak, so
it was a perfect guarantee sounds so it

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was. But again that was the
inaugural event, and then we decided that

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the following year we wanted to do
it bigger and better, and we had

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a little more planning, a little
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helped bet MGM send us some more
qualifiers, so we already knew that we

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were going to be aggressive. We're
very selective in what weekhend. We chose

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that it was going to be a
unique championship event in the summer landscape,

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and we've put a two million guarantee
on it, and the numbers jumped exponentially,

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went from three hundred and forty three
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twenty six. Huge gen here,
it's a huge jump and easily covered the

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two million. We actually were over
three million dollars in prize school, so

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now you know the trains off the
tracks here. We're just going to keep

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building bigger and better every year.
So we we're going to three million guarantee

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this year. I'm fully expecting us
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hoping to hit hoping to hit four, maybe even you know, approach five

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so that you know, as years
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a bigger guarantee. So we'really looking
forward to that event. My expectation is

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to easily surpass three and approach somewhere
between four and five is my realistic goal

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for that event. Yeah, So
if you're if you're out there listening and

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you got this event kind of on
your schedule, you've sort of penciled it

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into something you want to take advantage
of. Sounds like that's going to be

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a very juicy prize pool. A
lot of runners in this one, as

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Paul just hit on. So sounds
like you can pretty much pencil it in,

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which is which is good. You
know, sometimes players go into events

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and they're like, I don't really
know what to expect. It sounds like

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there's some pretty solid expectations there,
I would expect, so just you know,

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going from a million to two to
three, like that's you know,

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that's a big noticeable evolution there,
and it's it really is great to see.

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In addition to that bet MGM Championship
six Mystery Bounties events. You guys

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are all in on the Mystery bound
events, huh. I mean we love

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them. They're like all the rave
everywhere. So it's it's good to see

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you guys jump on board because so
many people like that. You know,

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I would probably say much more like
the casual player with that kind of lottery

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element to it. You have multiple
price points for it. So what goes

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into being like, you know,
we got to kind of have these on

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our schedule and we got to have
more of them on our schedule. That's

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a great question. So yeah,
we've really embraced the mystery bounty event and

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we try to offer something that a
lot of venues don't, which is one

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day mystery bounty tournaments love it.
Because mystery bounty tournaments, it is just

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an incredible innovation in tournament poker.
A lot of them to attain these high

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guarantees to where you're drawing big envelopes
require multiple days, and we understand that,

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you know, for someone who has
a job or even during the summer

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when they want to be playing a
different event every day, they don't always

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have the luxury of playing a three
or four day event or have their chips

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in the bag which prevents them from
playing an event, you know, at

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a at a different venue or playing
an event at aria that day. So

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we've really tried. Knowing full well
how labor intensive it is to do a

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one day mystery bounty, We've really
embraced it. Our team loves doing it.

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It's a fun environment for the players, and yeah, they do kind

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of like the lottery dynamic of it. It is pretty cool to you know,

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show for a one day event and
not even be anywhere near the final

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table and in one day pull a
twenty five thousand dollars bounty. It's just

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really cool. There's a lot of
vibes going on, you know, are

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those days are always the funnest.
Those days are the ones if you're looking

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to see me here late at night, those are the days where I'm just

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happen to be staying a little bit
later to watch some of the bounty polls

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and see all the excitement and the
players when, like Paul said, you

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know you you might finish seventieth in
the tournament, but you're walking out with

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like fourth place money. How does
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Like I said off the registration,
was it like in the money the

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one day events, it's once you
hit the money. Once you hit the

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money, everyone effectively has a bounty
on their head. Roughly sixty percent of

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the prize pool goes towards the finishing
place and then forty percent goes to the

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bounties. That's pretty must be pretty
labor intensive for you. Got I got

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to give Paul and his team a
shout out because that that moment that we

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hit redge clothes to the moment that
the payout the time you know it starts

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and he knows he's under the gun
to make sure that all the envelopes are

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and we know we know poker players
are not patient, so that you know,

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they want to know, ye ye
closes, they want to know give

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me a list of all the bounties. I want to know exactly what they

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are. But we've got a pretty
good system for doing it. So yeah,

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we usually have all their information within
about thirty minutes of quote redge clothes

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of all their posted payouts and what
their bounties are, so they have usually

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a couple of hours even before they
hit the money to strategize of what kind

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of you've got to strategize that ten
BB stack. You know you gotta fall

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to the you can strategize the ten
BB stack to play. These tournaments are

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so fun to watch too, you
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With all this, you know talk
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Mystery BOUNDI is a different dynamic where
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ard stack in that tournament because you
have so much bounty equity, where if

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you have a short stack, only
sixty percent of that money goes to the

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posted payouts, so survival is not
nearly as important in that one ship accumulation

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is kind of the driving force in
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lot more fun to watch. You
see a lot more unorthodox plays to people

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gambling try to win pulls in the
bounty drum. So it's definitely my favorite

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event to watch. Look at this. Paul's turning this into a strategy podcast

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now he might be the best player
I'm charging for this podcast. Just a

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quick question on mister Bownie. When
can we expect to see the three hundred

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dollars stud high mystery bounty on the
ARIA Public Classic schedule. That's the one

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I'm really high low. It's no, I want the highlight. That's what

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I want to say. Bring that
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quarter in Mystery bound that sounds like
an absolute night Aria poke like May twenty

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ninth through July thirteenth, want to
hit on this bet MGM Poker Championship thirty

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five hundred dollars buying so pretty good
price point. You know. It's it's

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big enough that it creates a really
juicy prize bol of course with that three

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million dollar guarantee, but it's also
accessible enough that you know a lot of

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people can get in a lot of
people can get in through satellites as well.

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Just quickly, that is June seventh
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A. There are two starting days, so June seventh, that's a Friday

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Saturday. June eighth will be Day
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and then Day three and day four
our plan to be here in the

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Poker Grot studio. How many satellites
are we expecting? Well, and before

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I even I'm going to have Paul
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I do want to mention that we're
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and that kind of we actually have
what we call Championship Week here,

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and so that week actually starts with
a five hundred thousand dollars guaranteed one day,

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eleven hundred dollars mystery bounty on the
sixth, bet MGM is going to

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be sending. You know, we
we have an idea. I'll let Paul

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kind of reveal the number on the
number of qualifiers, but they're gonna be

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sending qualifiers to that event as well. So a ton of great value when

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it comes to you know, that
guarantee. That's the one I'm sweating the

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most of the entire schedule that I'm
looking at a one day, five hundred

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K guarantee for an eleven hundred dollars
price point. I haven't done the math

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yet. I'm sure we only need
what Paul like one hundred people to enter.

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Yeah, that the guarantees covered you
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we need over five hundred players to
play this one day event to cover right.

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We would never do that. So
sweats are good. When it comes

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to guarantees, it means it means
you're trying. They're not good for my

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hairline. Okay, it gets the
hot pumping, sure, sure does.

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To talk a little bit about the
qualifiers, Paul, we're excited about that.

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Yeah. So of course, whenever
we run an event that we consider

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some sort of championship event at are
you, we run some internal satellites.

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There's going to be a satellite the
night before day one A. There's going

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to be an internal satellite the night
of one A going into one B.

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So you get two opportunities to win
your seat here at Aria the night prior

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to each of the flights. Those
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It's a ten seat guarantee, but
I'm sure we'll be given away closer to

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fifteen or twenty in each of those. We also do have some of our

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sister properties, not only in the
city but around the country running qualifiers for

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us. They're sending us some players
and then of course some of those have

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already been taking place National Harbor over
there in the DC area. Maryland has

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already sent qualifiers to US. I
know that Kelly over at Borgata and her

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team are going to be sending qualifiers
as well. We're really leaning into the

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power of a large corporation like MGM
Resort with all of you. You should

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for sure was around the world sending
US qualifiers and engaging those player bases as

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well. Yeah, and it's incredible
that in only the third year of our

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bet Mgmchampionship at Aria, we already
are drumming up that much interest at our

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properties on the on the Northeast coast
where those players, those regular players say,

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hey, I know, I know
about this bet MGAM Championship. I've

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heard about it. I watched the
stream of that final table. You know.

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They they they asked for that product
to They wanted the opportunity to win

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a seat into this event. So
I'm really looking forward to to some of

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those players showing up. And then, yeah, then the bulk of it

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is, of course, our qualifiers
through the bet MGM. They not only

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they went an entire package like Ryan
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The BETMGM week actually starts with the
eleven hundred, so they're winning seats into

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that eleven hundred Dolomit Mystery Bounty and
seats into the thirty five hundred Championship.

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Are you know? The BETMGM just
started running their qualifying packages. We've already

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hit over thirty five package winners.
We're in the process of getting them signed

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up for the tournament, getting their
rooms booked, and they're can be continuing

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to run packages over the next couple
of weeks. We're expecting a qualifying number

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that exceeds last year. So I'm
going to say somewhere probably in the one

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hundred and twenty to one hundred and
fifty qualifier range from your lips to God's

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ears, my friend, let's hope
they send as many as they possibly can.

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Help me, help me sweat these
guarantees a little, a little less,

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of course, I mean, listen, it sounds like a great opportunity

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for people to get in at obviously
a much more accessible price point. Having

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that, you know, sort of
two birds with one stone type of approach

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where you can get two entries as
opposed to just one, can make you

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feel good. A lot of satellite
qualifiers obviously, come out, they might

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bust and then they're like, oh
man, but it is if you bust

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the first one, at least you
got a second chance, which is very

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cool. So it's really good,
you know, to have you guys doing

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that. Yeah, and that and
that and done things bring that. That's

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exactly why we did it. We
actually did it last year and we noticed

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that in year one, the qualifiers
just want to seed into the championship.

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With that, I don't know,
we didn't get a lot of qualifiers.

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It was our inaugural event, then
the second and here we decided, you

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know what, we want to offer
a better a better experience for these guests

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who are winning the seat. Like
you said, I would hate to see

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someone get knocked out early in the
thirty five hundred dollars championship and then that

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is their one shot. Here you're
guaranteed two events and some of these players

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have never played in the casino before, so they actually get to play an

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eleven hundred dollars mystery Bounty tournament.
They get a little felt time before you

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know, before it's their main event. The it's there man, that they

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get a little helps with nerves too, you know. Yeah, yeah,

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for sure, and you know it's
pretty cool. And then it's a mystery

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bounty tournament. So it's nice with
these qualifiers to have some success stories.

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You know, we love to see
a qualifier from a bet MGM you know

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event pull a twenty five thousand dollars
bounty. It's just that's that's the spirit

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of the event, and we want
to get them a little table time and

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yeah, create a good environment where
players who haven't won a package already know

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they're going to be coming into a
big field tournament because there's already one hundred

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and fifty players signed up before they
even walk in the door. I mean,

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you touched on it quite a bit
there, but we can elaborate in

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a little bit more. You know
how as the Aria Poker Classic benefited from

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this partnership with with BETMGIM Poker and
you know obviously feeding satellites into it,

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you know, boosting up the fields, ryan helping you feel a little bit

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easier when you go to sleep at
night with these quarrencies. So just talk

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about that partnership and obviously it just
continues to grow year over year. The

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impact has been immense. Betmgm's partnership
has been invaluable to what it is that

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we've accomplished over the last few years
with our Aria Poker Classic series. This

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is a series that we've been doing
since as long as I've been here,

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going back, you know, thirteen
fourteen years. This series has been in,

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you know, an event that people
want to come out and play.

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But with our partnership with bet MGM
and the qualifiers that they send out,

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the amount of marketing and promotion that
they do on their and there are so

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many things that they are doing that
have helped us in a land based you

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know, brick and mortar casino series, bringing these online qualifiers in and we

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couldn't be more happy with what with
what it is that they do. They

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really provide a great experience for their
qualifiers when they come out to our venue.

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How difficult is it to put together
a robust schedule like this, go

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bigger than you did the year before, you know, continuing to build It's

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it's obviously very jam packed in the
summer. It's it's no longer just the

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World Series of Poker. Everyone's doing
something. You guys are doing something.

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You're doing something big. What goes
into that? How hard is it?

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How long does it take you you
mentioned earlier, you start last July.

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I mean, like, what's that
process like getting this all kind of figured

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out? I'm assuming it's one big
giant jigsaw puzzle for sure. I'm gonna

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let Paul pretty much answer the scheduling
questions because he's the schedule guru, and

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I know you alluded to it earlier. Sometimes it takes us a little longer

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to come up with the perfect schedule. It's better to get it right though,

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than slap something out there and they
then have to change late, you

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know, right, The calculation necessary
to provide a product that the players want

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to play within the timeframe that we
have, and particularly something that we're known

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for. And I want to steal
Paul's thunder here, but these one day

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events. There are plenty of multi
day events around Plagus during this time,

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and you're gonna have your chips in
a bag if you're you know, fortunate

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enough. I've never had chips in
a bag, so I don't even know

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what that's about, but I hear
this is a thing that people experience.

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And while you're waiting for your day
to restart, coming over and entering one

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of our one day events is a
great opportunity to keep your mind fresh at

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the tables and play what we think
is a very value heavy tournament. Our

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guarantees have increased immensely. Last year
we had a little over five million in

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guarantees total, and that was with
a two million dollar guarantee on the championship.

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I've apparently gone mad by by getting
these guarantees up to two hundred or

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excuse me, twelve million, with
two hundred thousand dollar guarantees on eight hundred

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dollars events. You look around town
during this time and that those guarantees aren't

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that high, and so I know
that we're pushing the envelope. Our players

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deserve that, and I know that
these are numbers that we're going to be

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able to hit. So with that, I'm sorry, I know that was

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a scheduling question and I got off
on my own little tangent there, But

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yeah, Paul, Yeah, like
you said, it is a jigsaw puzzle.

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So obviously the summer it revolves around
the WSOP. Everybody knows that.

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So everyone kind of waits for WSOP
to come up with their schedule, and

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then we look at that schedule if
other schedules have come out from other properties

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around town. I look at those, we make a huge spreadsheet and I

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try to find the optimal event for
what is missing that day. Are the

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holding players, you know, going
to be looking for something to play?

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Are the PLO players going to be
looking for something to play? If we

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want to throw in a you know, a horse tournament, where where is

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there kind of a gap where on
that day the mixed game players have nothing

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to play. So it does take
me a while, and I get a

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lot of help from Ryan and our
poker host Jake on making the schedule,

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but it's it's we don't make the
schedule based on what's convenient for ARIA and

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just put something out there and say, you know, we're just gonna run

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these events. We don't care what's
going on around town. We try to

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make the most player friendly schedule we
can to where you know, if you

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regardless of what you game, you
play, we're cognizant of what's going around

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around town, and you're always going
to have an opportunity to play it.

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And if you're gonna be playing at
one of our competitors one day, that

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00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.240
just means you're going to be coming
back the next day at ARIA. Because

408
00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:48.799
we have that game for you.
And then once we are comfortable with a

409
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.519
very player friendly schedule, then we
discuss what we want to do for the

410
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.160
guarantees. And I was shocked,
and thank you and kudos to Ryan for

411
00:27:57.640 --> 00:28:02.359
opening up the wallet and saying,
yeah, let's just go bigger and better

412
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:03.960
than ever before. And it is
a thank you. It's a thank you

413
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.920
to the players who have been with
us for years and years, who just

414
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.519
keep showing up, who unfortunately sometimes
had the way as an alternate because our

415
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:15.400
you know, our events were so
well scheduled that you know, everyone wanted

416
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.640
to play. So this is kind
of a thank you for and we wanted

417
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.000
the guarantees to be meaningful. You
know, a lot of places, uh,

418
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.920
you know, and even maybe us
in the past have thrown a number

419
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.359
up there that was almost laughable.
I mean, I like to call them

420
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:36.079
fake guarantee on this podcast. Okay, you don't have to say. There

421
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.400
are plenty of fake guarantees out there, and they're hitting the guarantee before the

422
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:42.079
tournament even started, you know,
like we did that last year. Frequently,

423
00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:47.319
we would have a guarantee and we're
ten minutes before kicking the tournament off,

424
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.799
and the guarantees already been hit and
you know, we kind of want

425
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:55.039
the sweat, like it's it's fun
for Ryan doesn't want it, but you

426
00:28:55.079 --> 00:29:00.759
know, slight sweat like he's about
to have a hot attack. I If

427
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:06.240
there's a little bit of a sweat, it means that you correctly gauged your

428
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:08.480
market, Like you don't want to
be so under. You obviously don't want

429
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.559
to be so wrong that you're screwed, right, but you also don't want

430
00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.319
to be so under that it's kind
of and it's not that it's a bad

431
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.480
thing at the end of the day, it's more of just a bad look

432
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:21.640
because you still make the guarantee,
you make money. That's fine, but

433
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.240
it's still like, well, why
they only have five hunder k when they

434
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.519
got three million in the prize pool. Where were their calculations off? You

435
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.640
know, did they not think that
they would draw a bunch of people?

436
00:29:29.759 --> 00:29:36.599
So that's necessarily the guarantees are just
about the money. Guarantees guarantee people,

437
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.960
They guarantee entries, They guarantee that
people are going to show up, and

438
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.839
that's what we're focused on. We
want to make sure that these field sizes

439
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:48.200
are commensurate with the product that we
feel that we're offering and the value that

440
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:51.599
these players are going to get plain
in our event series this summer. And

441
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.440
I think overall, you know,
I know that within the Vegas space on

442
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.960
the summer, there's obviously competition,
but it's also a bit of you know,

443
00:29:57.039 --> 00:30:00.039
a rising tide lifts all boats.
I mean, you know, like

444
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:03.799
Paul said, you know, you
work within the schedules. You find slots

445
00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.960
here, you find slots there.
Everyone kind of works because ultimately poker will

446
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:11.880
benefit, the players will benefit,
and if those things benefit, then your

447
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.160
personal venue where you work will benefit. So I think you guys have done

448
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:18.119
a really good job. As I
said earlier, like this schedule to me

449
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.880
looks like incredible evolution from where it's
gone, and I'm excited to see what

450
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.279
happens in this summer. And then
I'm also like excited, I'm already looking

451
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:29.200
forward to next year. I'm like, you guys gonna go to four million,

452
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:30.759
You're gonna go to five minutes?
Is Ryan gonna come out and be

453
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:36.599
like twenty million? Let's just let's
go nuts. So I think it's great

454
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:41.559
overall. I guess last question here, you know what what sets Aria poker

455
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.440
apart from the competition. And then
I guess for the players out there who

456
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.799
are thinking of maybe where should I
play? Where should I go in the

457
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.720
summer? Why should people come here? Why should they come into Aria?

458
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:53.920
I've played here, I will say
this. I've played here plenty of times,

459
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.759
used to play cash here back in
the day. I've played some tournaments

460
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.279
here. I love it here.
It's a great venue. You perfectly located

461
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:03.720
in the middle strip. Listen,
I'm a bit of a diva. I

462
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:07.920
like the luxury. Okay, So
I like Aria, right, So that's

463
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.440
my little and we like you Donnie
make my rake. Of course we like

464
00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.799
you Donnie. But yeah, but
why why should people come play here?

465
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.720
Other than the twelve million dollars?
For sure, that's a big draw,

466
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.759
right. You know. The where
I want to start is saying that we're

467
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.079
very thankful that we have very good
relationships with a lot of the other some

468
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:30.480
of our counterparts around town. And
so when you talked earlier about a rising

469
00:31:30.519 --> 00:31:36.079
tide lifts all boats, we really
all do believe that we're not trying to

470
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.519
be in direct competition with anyone.
We want to make sure that poker players

471
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.720
come here during the summer and they
have a place to play that they're comfortable

472
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:48.160
with that's offering great value. And
you know from the guarantees are the guarantees

473
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.920
and the forty five events that we
have, we think we've put together a

474
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:55.359
very optimal schedule. But one thing
that we've done this year is that what

475
00:31:55.359 --> 00:32:00.880
we're looking to do is enhance the
guest experience when you're here. We know

476
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.480
that we can't compete with the number
of tables that a lot of other places

477
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:07.960
around town have. Even with our
expanded space, we're only going to have

478
00:32:07.279 --> 00:32:13.279
We're hoping to be right around sixty
total tables. What we do want to

479
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.240
offer and what we think that we
can offer better than anyone else, is

480
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.480
a great experience when you show up
and play in one of our tournaments.

481
00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:24.799
We've We're gonna probably hop on social
media here in the next day or so

482
00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.559
and unveil our trophies that we have
set up for the summer series. I'll

483
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:32.960
let you know those set us back
up. I'm a soccer trophy on the

484
00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:37.480
lookout. I think our trophies are
what are the kids they slap is what

485
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:45.160
they say? The teenage Yeah,
I don't have any kids myself so I

486
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:50.039
but beyond that, anyone who makes
one of our final tables this year is

487
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:52.279
going to be receiving a swag bag. And I don't want to reveal everything

488
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.640
that's going to be in there,
but we'll definitely be asking you for your

489
00:32:55.640 --> 00:33:01.640
hoodie size. There's some other branded
Aria Poker merchandise in there. And then

490
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:07.039
BETMGM is going to be including some
stuff in our swag bag as well because

491
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.480
they are our presenting sponsor for the
Aria Poker Classic this summer, and so

492
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.240
little things like that. The food
service that we offer this is not something

493
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:21.240
that you can get at other places
around town. The game attendants coming and

494
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:24.839
taking food orders for you at Poshburger, Moneyline Pizza, some of the great

495
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:29.839
places that we have in Tai Fong, Lemon Grass, Proper Eats, Food

496
00:33:29.839 --> 00:33:34.200
Haul everything up here at Aria.
These are great food options for players.

497
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:37.119
We don't offer a dinner break so
we can make sure that you get some

498
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.000
sleep at the end of the night, but in lieu of that, we

499
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:45.279
offer some great food options. And
so if you haven't experienced Aria Poker at

500
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:50.279
all, it should be and I
do believe it's like a bucket list item

501
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:52.079
for a lot of players. It
was for me when I lived out of

502
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.680
town and knew that I wanted to
come here and experience what this is about.

503
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.559
And we embraced that. We're looking
forward to all of the people that

504
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:06.400
will be coming around, coming here
from around the world looking for that experience

505
00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:08.239
playing in our poker room and in
our tournaments as some one of the things

506
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:13.199
that I always love. I know
you guys have are great at obviously,

507
00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:15.519
Paul, and you're like, the
tournament management staff is great, but also

508
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:20.079
the dealers. I mean, listen, some of the best, if not

509
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.159
the best, in the city for
sure, and that when you're a poker

510
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.440
player, a tournament player, you're
trying to get hands in, you're trying

511
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.840
to play, that is of supreme
importance. We see it all the time

512
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.280
here in the studio with the PGT
events and the other stuff that we do

513
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.880
here. I'm assuming that also extends
obviously to the Aria Poker Classic, and

514
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:38.840
that is that is great and it's
probably not easy to find good dealers keep

515
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:42.559
them around, you know, but
you know, kudos to you guys for

516
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:45.599
doing that and having them here because
I rarely see them make mistakes unless they're

517
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.960
dealing to John Manette. But other
than that, you know, things happy

518
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.159
John, Things are good so well. And I'm glad that you've noticed that

519
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:57.480
because it is as a result of
the efforts that we put into the training

520
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.760
programs, even for our temporary employees
this summer, and so the people who

521
00:35:00.760 --> 00:35:05.280
come on here, they have the
same expectation of our year round staff,

522
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.760
and we really do invest in them
and make sure that they are up to

523
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.159
Aria's standards. So I'm glad that
someone notices the work that we do.

524
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.639
It sounds like we need to do
like a special social media video and let

525
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:19.280
him go through the training programs.
He's a decent dealer, but like we

526
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:22.199
need to like put him on the
spot. I'm not scared at all,

527
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:24.119
all right, put Tim in the
box over there. Yeah, you guys

528
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.960
have a gaming license. I mean
we actually probably could figure put you in

529
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.840
the just just have you show up
like for a PGT event. Just start

530
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.920
trying. I would be start pitching
him out. That'd be great, you

531
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.480
know, a table change request week. Yes, yes, Paul, Ryan,

532
00:35:38.679 --> 00:35:43.920
appreciate you guys for coming on talking
about the ARIA Poker Classic again for

533
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.239
everyone out there. May twenty ninth
through July thirteenth. You guys can tune

534
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:52.360
in on social media Aria Poker on
Twitter slash x. Yeah. I mean

535
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.400
I would come play here if I
wasn't locked up at the World Series of

536
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.760
Poker every single day along this guy
over here, I would definitely be over

537
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:04.480
here. Most importantly because I am
a one day tournament guy. I need

538
00:36:04.519 --> 00:36:07.480
to get in and get out there. So for me, this type of

539
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.800
schedule, I'm looking at it,
I'm like, I'm like salvating, and

540
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.920
I'm also annoyed that I can't play
a lot of these events, right,

541
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:14.760
But if I could, you know
that, that's right up my alley,

542
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.079
because like you said, it's hard
to get when you're working, it's hard

543
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.960
to get locked in for multiple days. So I love the fact that you

544
00:36:21.000 --> 00:36:23.400
guys tackle this from from a you
know, kind of a one day tournament

545
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:27.239
aspect for a lot of this stuff, obviously the big guarantees as well,

546
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.239
So a lot to be had here
at Aria Poker in the Summer Ario Poker

547
00:36:30.239 --> 00:36:35.079
Classic May twenty ninth through July thirteenth. That's uh, Ryan Kirk, that's

548
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.280
tournament director. Two time Tournament Director
of the Year, Paul Campbell, appreciate

549
00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.079
you guys coming on. Thank you, appreciate you having, thank you,

550
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:46.280
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informed before the show that Tim wanted
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guess that means rich play the music. Attention, attention, good morning,

558
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.679
good afternoon, and good evenings of
the poker radio audience near and far.

559
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.599
It is now time for a brand
spanking, spiffy and new shout out to

560
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:34.480
some of our most loyal listeners who
likely got a bit too lucky on the

561
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way to the spotlight. You're listening
to the number one poker show in the

562
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:43.639
land, and it's time for a
new edition of the Poker Go Podcast Community

563
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.400
Cards. All right, sir,
do you what do you got for me?

564
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:49.280
I just want to say It's been
a long time since we had that

565
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.039
tune, that jingle. It has
been a long time, but but I

566
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:52.800
think we're going to get a lot
of it in the summer. Yes,

567
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.960
we got to bring it back.
I feel like I wanted to discuss some

568
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:59.960
things because it's fitting. We know
we're about to talk to Ryan and Paul.

569
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.360
I've had two players come up to
me while here at Aria. Once

570
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:07.760
was in the poker room, one
was here in the Podco studio, you

571
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.760
know, saying, hey man,
I'm a big podcast listener, you know,

572
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:14.039
big fan. Love what you guys
do. I'm horrible with names.

573
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:15.679
I've already forgotten their names, but
I gave him a hat. I gave

574
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.840
him a little card protector. They
got a little bit of swag. They

575
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:22.480
were very excited about that. They're
very loyal listeners, and I just want

576
00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:28.440
to preface the people coming. We've
got world series coming. We've got something

577
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.039
planned I don't want to reveal right
now. There's something planned for you guys,

578
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:36.480
you listeners back home, so make
sure you stay tuned in for every

579
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:52.920
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