Jesus Christ. Hello always and gentleman, and welcome to the stranger. What
I do? It wasn't you? First of all, I got this strong
it's gvuh six point fifteen. I am the I'll explain myself after. I'm
the clown Prince of hurt Legs Tress now, and I'm joined by I am
the Tuna Melt Kirklan Patzer, the car thief tator Field. I was going
to answer the phone, Oh, it's my mic call. Fuck no,
No, it's Kirkland. He's reenacting the scene. Oh fuckers No. I
went to go introduce this podcast to say when I answer the phone at work.
So I went to say, because I say a phrase every day when
I pick up the phone. So my mind literally went to say that.
I'm like, I'm not at work right now, and I just for a
second just froze. I was like, what's the phrase? Yeah, Oh,
it's just hello, customer relations, how gonna help you? You know?
And that's a I say all the time, all the time. And
just like, even though that's not technically my role, it's just something easy
for people to understand. So I was about the phone number to reach you
at well, I wouldn't reach me. You just reached some poor person that's
working right now, you know, so sure, I'll give you the number.
It doesn't do shit all to me. That's the great thing. My
phone my work. I uses my cell phone, but it masks my number,
so it just comes up as PHSA, which does not secret work.
So you can never call me. Interesting, Yeah, you can never call
me. You can call that's how we work from home. You can call
the number, but you're just gonna get who's ever work in that line?
So it's great. One day, I accidentally, again tell the fuck ups,
I put in the wrong number, so some poor soul for at least
three calls was getting calls. I put my number, the digit was wrong,
so something that did not work at PHSA was getting calls. And I
can see because what happens you can see when they get picked up, so
I could see people are picking them up. I'm like, my phone's not
ringing. So some random person was just getting called somewhere in BC about some
order, some credit card thing and everything like that, and it's like,
no, this isn't to your health. And then when they call back,
they must be like, what the fuck's going on? Like this is the
number and you just got some random guy calling, So yeah, it's good
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did a two movie retros, so I think after this we'll probably refer back
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honestly, it's just a couple of it's a couple of extra scenes that they
watch whatever's on Disney Plus it's gonna be it's not extended. It's the uncut
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Yeah, and a bunch of other stuff. Yeah. Let's get into
this so as usually do our non spoilers thoughts. So tear Field, I'm
gonna start with you. What did you think of Strangers? Chapter one?
I'll see this is the first chapter of two. I think the next one's
coming out in like October. I think it's supposed to be three three,
Well let's see, let's see after this and the next weekend, you know,
as you're saying, too even, Yeah, and then the third is
supposed to come on in January, so that's I think. I think it's
like Halloween and then January. So yeah, what were your thoughts on this
one? I think the the main actress was wonderful. The main actor,
I think he tried. But it's hard for me to attribute this to the
writing or just the character. I think. I just don't. I don't
know, it sucked. You could say, Okay, he sucked. I
feel like you could have. You could have had picked any guy out of
the majority of those early mid two thousands horror movies like Friday Thirteenth and The
Boyfriend would fit into just being one of those generic guys pulled from one of
those movies, so a little didn't stand out. The actress. The actress
took the entire spotlight from me, and I'm I'm I'm just so glad that
they I think the only thing I've seen her in is Riverdale, so I'm
glad that they picked her, uh for this role. She was just fantastic.
I loved her performance. The movie itself, fuck, it was not
great. I think that it was a carbon copy of the original, but
lesser on so many levels. I think the original ace is it this one.
It delivers no scares. It tries to create a setting and an environment
that is supposed to make you feel anxious and tense. But it's not a
spoiler. This town. It's a fucking joke, and I think that they
didn't like Why Why do they have to rely on that set as a as
an attempt to make things more frightful in the atmosphere. There's so many loose
ends, and I get that this is created as three parts. I understand
that, but you can't rely on that. I don't. I don't.
You can't rely on having the second movie explain in these loose ends that are
in this one. There's certain things with characters Dune part one, Dune Part
one, Dune part one. Yes, there are loose ends, but it's
it still can it wraps itself up as one movie. I think it does
a good job. But that still does too, you know, the no,
not at all. There there are characters that have a significant amount of
time. I'd say at least they were like they were presented to be important,
and I feel like it does not come back whatsoever, at least in
and Dune one they shore off a lot. She's in one scene, then
you're like, oh, I guess if the movie ends, I never know
more about her. You know part two it's okay, It's okay, But
this is definitely no Dune. I mean, this is definitely no three hour
long movie. There's just there's things that had couldn't imagine, just things that
were just left. Wasn't liking it, and that we're not explained properly and
just dumb decisions and all that jazz. The first one was quiet. It
was such a slow burn at the start that I really appreciate, and they
really let the ominous and the eeriness of your own mind fill in the gaps
they let your own mind do the frightful anticipation and the build up of these
intense moments, and this one they just slap things right in your fucking face
and just hope that these intense moments of you seeing what's going on on the
screen as opposed to the original where your mind is making you think you see
things and expecting things. It also sucks that this movie is advertised is I'm
pretty sure the trailers like see how the Strangers be like got their start or
became the Stranger something like that. It's like, this is not a fucking
origin story at all. This is again they're already in the in the shit
here doing what they're doing, and this was their first night. Though it
was not it was definitely not. They say in the movie the opening,
the opening shows that you know it's not a flash for because they show that
no, no, no, they showed that there's a spoiler. There's a
poster for a missing person or whatever, so we know it's a flat it's
a happens in the past. I just I'm just I'm not apologist for this
movie. Over here, mister Travis Nell, it's ten for him. I
just I walked out of this I walked out of this movie just feeling dissatisfied.
I'm glad I didn't see it by myself. There were so many things
that I was just I was chuckling at thinking this is fucking weird. And
then there is and then credits scene and it's like this there is. Yeah,
I didn't bother. I didn't bother today, you guys. I just
thought it was worthless. Thought, Man, what the fuck is this supposed
to send me out of the theater feeling like and expecting now like I'm ridiculous,
I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm gonna highlight some of the more things
that I enjoy with the movie. But if you're expecting me to be praising
it and and just fucking up up in the ship with this movie, no,
I'm not up in the ship you expect what fuck this movie up?
The ass? Not me today. What were you feeling when you left the
theater? Were you scared? Like, no, Tailor, I wasn't scared.
No. I walked out and like the thing that scared me was when
we were walking into the theater, there's a guy standing out front, and
when we left the theater, he was still standing out front. She said
seven. Always he wasn't he was a guy. He wasn't. He wasn't
a homeless guy. Like he was out there like having a good time,
just like doing his own He was well dressed and everything, had a good
time just standing around. But what's that, Carl. He was a homie
list guy. He was homies. He was for his home. Yeah,
that was a stretch. Oh geez, Yeah, I was scared. You're
scary. Yeah, I was pretty scared. Scaredna watch these I'm like,
oh fuck, oh no, that was me. Yeah, So okay,
here's the two point. I got lots of combat against here, So yeah,
I'll go. Because we don't know Kirkland's thoughts, which I think.
I think I know his thoughts by now. But so I don't think I
think the reception because I've seen some posts like oh madam Web move over,
new worst movie of the year. I can't subscribe to that. I don't
think this is like an all time bad horror movie. I think it's just
because a lot of people, not Patroon Clay, a lot of people hold
the original to such a high esteem that this comes out and it's clearly by
the time you get halfway through you go, Okay, this is a much
lesser version than that. And I think that's the thing, because people love
that movie so much. It'd be different if it's like I think that's why
Pray at Night does and get shit, it's just like, eh, it's
a whatever movie and people just forget about it because it's not a remake.
With this being like we're remaking the class like the one that, like I
talked to Clay and even a minute too, like people that you you don't
like this movie, you can see inspired a lot of we talked about this,
right, a lot of sequels and horror movies downline, we talk about
how it inspired some of our movie. Right, So that's thing that's like
this for horror movie people, I think was an inspiration. So I think
remaking this in so close too, it's not even been twenty years, right,
it was too Yeah, so it's not even been twenty years yet.
Usually when we get these older remakes, it's like like, what when we
got the Nightmare in Elm Street movie that's like from the eighties, and then
it came in twenty ten, so it's like thirty years later. Like there's
lots of breathing ro We're here. It's not so old where it's like no,
I don't think people haven't seen it, right, or if they have,
it's a click away. It's like, oh, black and white,
Oh cheesy effects. It's like it hasn't like aged at all, because it's
like an age, just movie, not in the way. I'm not saying
it's a cost a blank or oh my god. It's just like it's people
in a cab and there's no effects. There's not that. So I don't
think it's that. I think it's I think they did an unfortunate out of
It's like seventy five percent remake and then twenty five percent Rebeo. Because I
will say, because Tayla's not seen this, it is not a carbon copy
of the first one. Go watch Psycho and then go watch the remake of
Psycho. That is literally a shot for shot remake of Psycho with new actors.
This is not shot for shot. They do a few different scares,
there is different locations, and the whole first act is completely different. The
character motivations for our couple, the whole town I'm with you, the whole
fucking evil town thing. I hate that shit in most things unless it's done
very well. But it's just like in this it just there's many moments unfortunately
that do come off as like scary movie type, not the whole movie,
but there's many more like fucking Ronnie, right, we'll get in to Ronnie.
Like, that's a character from the Marlon Wayne scaring what's his name,
Rudy, Rudy, that's a character from the Marlon Wayne Scary movie one or
two like that, he's full and ripped out. Give him a small hand
and that's that guy. Right. So it's just tough where they should have
went more. That they should have went more of the reboot. And we
talked about this on Prey at Night where it was like it seemed like they
announced it as a prequel, but this is clearly not a prequel because all
the tech and everything happened like it does not match up with the two thousand
and eight one right, Like it's it's in a different time, So that
would make no sense. So I think they should have went more. As
much as I don't like the Evil Town thing, they probably should have leaned
more into it. And I know that's where another thing to you're saying,
like oh, why would they do this? Explain nothing. It's like,
well they do. They are coming on saying we're doing two and three right,
whether we like it or not, It's like they are. It's like
Lord of the Rings. It's like Fellowship of the Ring. To me,
does for a complete movie, but you leave you know strand. So I
don't have so much problem as that. The same thing as like they cast
Richard Burke and Tay when we're trying, like, oh, I cast this
guy from Barbaria and he's doing nothing this movie. He's like, well,
clearly good actor. He's gonna be in the other part. So I don't
have those issues per se because it's not like they tricked us, like the
way with Wicked right, where they're not telling the public it's a part one,
they're just preview. They're showing it as Wicked. So that's why for
me, it's a kid going in you knows is supposed to be three parts.
That doesn't bug me. I think the guy actor is fine. I
think these two are being too hard on. I think the script does a
lot of poor things for him. I think there's so many more male leads
I've seen that are worse than this guy. This script just makes him out
to be a fucking idiot at many times, especially when we actually meet the
strangers. I can never say her last name, Madeline something, but it's
like whatever Cherry Bloss, Madelon pet Pesche, Madelyne pitch Man, what Madelyne
Pesche? So Madeline maln Pesh. I going to just stick with Madeline.
I think she is good in the movie. I don't think she is like
bad or anything. I think she acts it well. I think what I
said to Taylor and I said the discord today where I think her agent have
to not pick rolls like this because I think she she's good. I think
she does a good job. I will follow her in these three or whatnot.
But I think that her strengths are kind of what she did in Riverdale,
where she's a very flashy, over the top and her jedic charismatic character.
So it's almost weird seeing her in this role where it's like, hey
play a normal person and all your like really strong abilities, don't do those
like just be normal, And it's like, I don't think that's what I
want from her. It's like Nick Cagee was like, hey, be a
normal guy, it's like, no, I'm not saying she's a Nick Cage
level, but I'm just saying that she should be in a FAMU f and
Tel role, or a sex pop role or something like something very funny and
comedic. So I liked her here, but it wasn't like a, oh
man, we got a new scream scream right. It's not like even like
i'd say, like the lead guy more No, no, no, definitely
not. I don't like the guy more. I think she's a better actor
than the guy. But it's not like another one we had chapters announced.
This was what I was comparing it with, was like fear Street, right,
that came out and that lead right away. I'm not saying she's an
iconic lead. I was like, Okay, I'm ready to follow this main
character. We're here. I'm like, I like her as an actress.
I'm down that, and I think she does a good job. Again,
she's good. This is not even a critique answer. I'm just saying in
the future, what I know is is just like she doesn't get to show
off to me what her real abilities are. So, yeah, there's a
couple good shots. I think there's a couple good scares that they not good
scares, but good flips of the situation that I enjoyed, and I'll point
them out. In there, there's like some good technical stuff, but uh,
yeah, there's not There's not much here. I can't really rec I
can't recommend to see this in the theater unless you're a massive fan of horror
or The Strangers. There's not too much here. It is just a lesser
version of the first one. For the most part. They make some changes.
Unfortunately, I don't leave in a way where I'm like that interested to
see where it goes, because I think the interesting or the rest is about
the town and I don't care about this town. So, mister Patzer,
where are you? There? You go? Did you guys know that she
was like an executive producer on this as well? I thought I heard that
Metal and Pesh. I didn't know that until I was sitting there in the
end credits, or not the end credits, before the end credits, because
I was bouncing before we got there. But no, that was a bit
of a surprise because I feel like she is probably the only person I actually
no, that's a lie. I recognized Barbarian Man, the guy that Bruce
Wayne's family. Yeah, he's great, and those roles that that he's gets
put in, I don't know, I don't know. He's just he's a
great character actor for those for those those types of dudes which are unfortunately,
you know, creepy, bad guys. But hey, he fits the role.
But said someone tweeted, I can't this guy just put him in like
a fun time call me role. He's like, yeah, can anybody do
that? So he's ready for a change. He wants he wants tired boss.
He's supposed to be a funny guy, you know, let him be
a funny guy. Soon host SNL do one of absoluteat It's like, who
the fuck is this guy? Richard Burke from Barbarian. He's in Barbarian for
like five minutes too. He's not even in it that much, so it's
the creepiest character ever. But yeah, no, I didn't really like this
movie. I had like kind of a fun time with it, and I
feel like it's gonna be a fun review. Breaking down some specific moments.
Hands up in the air, were you did you see it alone? When
you say had a fun time where you're like, haha, like playing at
the scry yeah, just me cameras. No. I went with my old
man. I went with Papa Patzer and it was like we had a good
time. You know, he was gidding our popcorn. Did he enjoy it?
Yeah? Some what left he got? He definitely got a couple jump
scares in him. It was funny because there was there like a guy in
like in the for in front of me but over to the right. I
swear every single jump scare got him like he was leaping up in the air
at various parts. I think he left pretty damn scared. That guy he
was. He was totally into it. Credit. I'm curious like how many
people went into this without actually seeing the original as well, Like I think
that would definitely boost the overall experience if you didn't know what the original was.
Because I completely agree with what you said Travis, where it's just like
across the board a lesser remake of of what the original one is. And
yeah, they do change up the opening and character motivations, but it has
the same beats, right, like the same kind of check marks that that
the first one has. I won't go in all those in the weather free
section, but it just seemed it just seemed like anytime that it seemed like
something new, it would be like, oh, okay, they went there,
which is just like what happened in the first movie. So then it
made me expect that direction. I didn't think our our heroes were gonna last
long in this movie, but still I think that it. Yeah, I
think it just just across the board. It's just a lesser version of what
that first one is. And I wouldn't even really recommend this to people because
I would just recommend the first one and just go with that. If you're
that interested as well, just watch check like one, two, three,
back to back, you know. Yeah, And like, I'm curious if
someone hadn't seen the original one and then they watch this one, what they
would think of the original one, because it is the same beats but very
different style of shooting. I think that the first one, and by the
first one, I mean the original is much I don't want to say slower,
but the pay scene is just like not as intense at parts, Like
it gets intense, but I still feel like it's not as action y as
what this movie is. And I don't know, maybe it feels weird,
but it doesn't feel like a movie at times, right like and of course
it's a movie, yeah, but it feels like you're because we've talked about
it, right, the whole movie is like on like they do the handcam.
It feels like you are just peeking in to these people or this has
like the beats in an opening of the movie, right like like we're doing
most character Ronnie and I don't care to say this to Nonsports or Rudy.
That's the first jump scare of the movie. Is he like like like they're
having car troubles and he's like and he like, you have troubles, and
it's just like that's where it's like the first movie does like the original does
not do that the original is they play it really like you don't. There's
only a couple jump scares in there, and they're pretty earned and they use
them sparingly where they're doing the classic and I'm not saying this is a jump
scare fest. This wasn't like every finance like don't do. But they definitely
rely on that way more than the original there, which I think that was
that's that is the unfortunate thing where you miss the point. That's why I
wish they just did something, and that's why I actually not that I have
hope, but maybe two and three can be different because they're not gonna be
remaking the first one, i'd imagine, right, So that's where I think
they could have more. They could spread their wings a little bit, where
when you do even a few more jump scares than the original, you feel
like you've missed the point because that was always the scary thing and people would
shout it like oh, just seeing things in the background, or oh,
like the Celta where this is like as subtle as a shotgun. There's some
really cool stuff in here. Oh, not really cool. There's there was
one shot I really like. I think it's in the trailers where and I
don't care it's not swears, but like when they first arrive and she's banging
on the door and the act that comes like inches away from her face,
which they actually did practical by the way out of CGI effects, so they
kudos to her for tyme that out. That was like a really good like,
okay, you're expecting another knock and then boom, actions comes to right
by her face. Like there's a few things like that that, Okay,
I applaud the change but there's not enough of that to really like it.
That's what they maybe should have done is either reboot or remake the first one,
but then make it use the same plot beats, but then use a
bunch of stuff different but not really. Yeah, and like there's certain other
qualities that I think our killers have in this movie that it just makes them
feel very different than the Killers of the first one. And I think like
the original Killers are so much scarier, possibly because you just don't really know
what they're what's going on with them, Like like you don't get a lot
of the a lot of time of camera on them, especially in the early
stages. It like it is so subtle, whereas you know, minor spoiler.
But there's a moment when we have a killer in the house, and
in the original it's like the camera's on our on liv Tyler and then you
can like kind of see something in the background, but in this one,
like it literally walks right in front of the camera, so it's like,
oh, okay, yeah, I get it, he's in the house.
Like like it just it just seems like less uh like less creative in that
sense, because because they're like, well, we could hide them, but
let's just dumb it down for our dumbest viewer and just put it right in
front of the camera so that everybody knows that he's in the house. And
I think just those moments make it a little bit less special, and like,
I get it, you don't want to redo the same shots that the
original one did, so but yeah, I don't know. It's just it's
just things that make me think it's much lesser. And uh, mister Gasper
over here, well, how you said like they dumb things down. I
can't remember which interview I saw that this actor said this, but we want
to things down if we didn't like smart, it's too many. You have
a emotional scene and you have the main character on the screen on the verge
of crying, but they don't necessarily show them starting to stop, like drop
tears or anything like that. They don't actually deliver on the crying, and
that in turn forces the viewers to be the ones to take on that emotion.
They're the ones that start crying. That's the brain kind of filling in
that gap and fulfilling it. So when you look at this kind of sequence
here where they're dumbing things down and they're putting that fear right in front of
you or not letting your mind do the rest of the framework. That's the
I mean, you're spot on. It dumbs it down. They should stick
to what that first one did and use the peripheral vision and allow your brain
to formulate that fill into the gaps. Right. It's funny because when you
mentioned like the specific moment of a character crying and then the absence of crying
makes you you cry. There's a moment in here where our male protagonist is
like it seems like he's trying to cry and there's nothing, Like he's just
getting absolute nothing. It's I I'm definitely dogging on the guy. It's definitely
mostly the script and the writing, Like not like i'd say eighty percent of
all of it is just purely on the script and the writing. But the
uh, there's a scene where the male actor is just like crying and just
nothing's coming out, and he's and he's like sitting right next to Madeline Pesh
who's just like so much more expressive and like crying really well, and it's
just like, man, what a what a comparison. And I didn't really
talk about her yet, but I thought she was the major standout on just
this entire movie. Like she I I really really liked her character in Riverdale
for the brief time that I was watching that show. I think she was
just fantastic. And hold on, I canna open this little chap bar.
See what Nothingida, you're uploading this episode? Just the numbers were going up.
I'm like, fuck, my MIC's plug or something. But no,
she mic is unflugged. We're gonna let you know, like on are just
gonna be like, oh, just idiot has no idea that it's spoilers and
then they do it over. You can edit that bitch. So yeah,
No, I thought she was fantastic. She just carried like every scene that
she was in. I thought she brought the emotion as well as like she's
able to just play like a character in that It's gonna sound really stupid,
but I feel like she was able to just really play the character that she
had to. There's a lot of certain things she had to say that's just
didn't really make sense because of the writing, but her performance at least was
really good. She brought the emotion and like the scare face and all all
of that aspect, Like everything that you want from a lead, lead victim
in a horror movie. I thought she was able to do it really,
really well. And uh yeah, I'm I was surprised to see that she
was a producer on this, and uh, I'm curious what's gonna be happening,
you know, moving forward. But yeah, no, that was a
long witted way of saying that I did not like this movie. And maybe
that's a harsh way to say it. I had a decent time with this.
I think it's gonna be a fun review, but I don't think this
is a good movie at all. And I'm cautiously optimistic maybe going forward because
of what you said, Travis, how it's like they're kind of in new
waters now, like they haven't really done a direct sequel right of of the
the other one. Because like the second movie, Pray at Night, it
can be like an it could be like an anthology film, right like it.
It doesn't necessarily have to be the chronological order of they murdered liv Tyler
and Buddy and Kate Beckham sales DP partner. But I see man if I
sit down for chapter two and it's a low key remake of Prey at Night,
I'm gonna be fucking pissed. I get why trailer park, Yeah,
I get why you make the remake the first and again I don't think you
have to, it's not that far along, but I get why you do
it. If they do pray. Now, Okay, this doesn't have much
like fanfare. Don't let's not do this. But yeah, all right,
we're gonna take the gloves off into spoilers. Yeah, let's gloves glove.
Alright, we're going de glove. Get ready. If you don't want to
see the movie, this is probably good for you to check out, because
I think we'll do good job breaking it down for you. So we'll be
right back and we're back. So let's usually don't do this. I'm not
just saying so from the beginning, but I will give a little breakdown at
the beginning, and just because if there is, it is where we get
the most differences. Right, we meet. I can't remember I'll hope their
names in a second, their fucking couple names, but Ryan and fuck I
forget her name, Ryan, Fuck Ryan and Maya. So they are driving
to I can't remember where, somewhere across Test City. She's trying to go
to Portland, right Portland or the Triangle of Portland. She has a job
offer for God, this movie's already from the architect, thank you. I
don't know when I want to bring this up, but I'm I'm gonna bring
it up here. I know it's not the beginning, just a base of
the couple. So the pitch for the first strangers is, you know,
guy proposes doesn't go well, awkward night. Right, this is just a
couple of road trip movies. So already, as we talked about, you
take it to leave it. But I think for all three of us,
the originals that work where it's like, oh, it's something a bit more
intriguing. It's this couple, but there's some tension here what's going on because
they don't reveal that right away. Right this is like first five minutes like,
oh, I can't wait, we're gonna be moving new jobs, so
you get everything. There's no surprise, and that's fine. They're not going
that route. But they're not doing that. But later on in the movie,
which is strange for this couple, it's right before the shit hits the
fan. They she's like, they talk about some hike and she's like,
oh, you know. I really thought you're gonna pop the question there and
he's like, oh, well, he said you don't want to get married.
She's like yeah one and he's like you know and unsaid, and she's
like, yeah, that was five years ago. Though. I the fact
that these people have been together for half a decade and they never once talked
about marriage ever again. It's just something that's interesting to me because me and
Emily that we've decided like, ah, we might get married one day,
we might Elope. I just call her my wife because it's easier because if
you say partner, people think it's like they don't they don't understand, and
they're already assuming there's a guy at home. If they say girlfriend, they're
like, oh, is that the mother your children? Because you know,
no, you just say wife because people are still in that moment. We're
like, oh, well, now I understand that's why you have three kids.
You still don't gotta get married. That's funny. But when yeah,
yeah, my fuck buddy. But when we first they're like, oh,
yeah, we'll get married. I have a wedding one day, and then
we all like like we both don't. We're not no rush to dude.
We don't even know if that will happen one day, right, So there
was like stages to our relationship were we talked about that we've been together for
eleven years. So the fact that these two together have not talked about once
after just in the and this was the first year year one they talked about
never talked about again. The guy's like, oh, yeah, we're not
getting married, uh huh. And then the other thing is later on she's
like, oh, if I get the job, you'll move there. Right,
they have any they're taking a road trip together, and they haven't even
discussed the possibility of hey, if you get this job, what the fuck
happens until they're at this cabin, like and they said yeah, of course.
So it wasn't like a I thought, Oh, this is where the
drama's gonna come from. He's not gonna want to move and that's gonna make
it awkward somebody. He's like, yeah, of course, some move.
So it's like why, Like that's what was the problem with the couple.
It felt like they had nothing interesting to make them talk about. So it's
just the basic bitches things and stuff that just didn't make sense of same thing
of like oh you don't want to get married. Oh I now do Okay,
I'll propose to you, okay, like anytime, like, oh,
there's gonna be some drama here. He's not gonna want to get married.
Someone's not gonna want to move like no, So they're just making them like
the perfect happy, go lucky couple. But yeah, they're traveling there,
she has a job interview. They stopped to get some food in a fucking
restaurant that everyone's shady. Everyone, every single body in those Yeah, everybody
and their dog is looking at them like like they just shit on their front
lawn. They whatever, And then they were or some food. We guess
that she's a vegetarian for doesn't really play in a plot at all, but
that's fine, vegan whatever, but likes vegetarian either way. She's not even
mean. There's a couple like, but they never really played that much into
it, and like there we got a salad and the car breaks down.
That's when we meet Ronnie, right ron on your mind. I think that's
what I heard. They The guy thinks it's you know, set up and
everything, and then they go, oh, well there's this cabin you can
stay at, and that's opening at So Taylor, I'll let you go first,
because you did say, you know, carbon copy. But again,
the car, the couple and how they got there all different. You know,
it wasn't a bed and breakfast or B and B. It wasn't this
moving thing, you know, I guess, And that's you make a point
when you kind of hone down on that regard the way I see it's just
it's I look at it as a carbon copy because it's two individuals going to
a remote location. And that's why I well that okay, that I could
give you a list of like hundreds of horror movies. That's every freights,
that's the car. So yeah, they the town I think is just so
so terrible, like wait, terrible in the sense of like bad people are
like terrible from a critical standpoint, just a critical stand Okay. Now,
in retrospect, we don't know their implication, their attachment to how they're connected
with the three killers and what the three killers are doing. I feel like
they're not necessarily all connected because you have the this fuck. We'll talk about
the repairman later because that needs to be discussed. But the repairman's showing up
there, wouldn't he the owner wouldn't do that. If he was in on
it, he would leave them alone there. Now, even the if they
were out on the town, like if the girl, if Maya was with
Ryan, and Ryan is being asked by all these other like townsfolks like oh,
stay awhile, like that's a fun whatever. They I don't think any
of them would have asked them to stay awhile, like go get back there
and get killed. Like so, I feel like there's certain characters in the
town that aren't genuinely they were to be helpful and positive. Now in regards
to the vehicle actually being fucked over, Rudy's just a fucking I don't know
how going on there here, Ronnie. I don't know what's going on with
Rudy, but the whole town them just kind of set this tone. I
don't know, I've never I'm trying to think like this is just totally Hollywood
eyes, because you don't really get this kind of just in towns like this.
And granted, even if I'm going down the like the side of the
highway here and I like, oh, we need to find food and just
google your nearest food stop, like I'm not I'm the kind of person that's
not going to just pick the next one off to the right, like and
just go. However, I'm like, I'm looking for a specific restaurant.
I feel maybe I'm just so used to, like, you know the big
regular chains. Are you pulling over to a town four hundred and fifty eight
population and just that's clearly it was at least a fifteen minute drive away because
they went out of Wi Fi range for a while. Sometimes you get some
good food there, you know, that's true. Maybe, but like if
it's where I'm getting gas, baby, you know, like it's on route.
If I if I have like six hours to my destination, I feel
like I'm not going out of the way to go just find a random spot.
But it was closed. Yeah, Like I was so hungry. You
could eat a cow, you know, Yeah, I'm so hungry. I
can eat a whole fucking cow. Fucking trap, here's an adr line.
I was like, I don't think we needed that, but that's okay,
especially because his girlfriend's like a vegan vegetary like whatever. So just like that,
he's like, I don't fucking eat a whole cow, my god,
And she's like I'm like the salad like, there's weird, but I in
this world, yes, because I don't think there's gonna be some creepy town.
But I guess it depends how close they were to their their destination and
everything. So but even when they're in the diner, he's like, Okay,
can you help me out some directions here? But you go the fucking
way you came. Of course it's not gonna do anything because your cars are
not going to start, But they don't feel like they went through pans labor.
They did get a signal though when they were when they were in there
in the town, they got as little because she's googling and watching her friend's
videos, so they lost it briefly as they were going out there, which
is just a pointless another loose end. And again these characters are introduced like
I feel like they're going to be picked up in the second film, but
even like the other couple, like oh, yeah, we've been married.
How long you guys have been married? That group of people, And then
even when they're he was going to get food and they're like, oh stay
awhile say hello. There's no there's no loop back to that. I would
have loved it. Why that came around again one I thought the same thing.
I'm like, you can just like, why do I need the scene
of him at the shady food hub like buying and they're mad him for being
a vegetarian stuff or whatever. Her That was like right these because the other
thing I hated aesthetic wise, I hated that the girls wore those stupid dukes
and they just like killed Like yeah, but the only reason they did that
hide their hair. So like when we get the big reveal which town folks,
it is like, oh, it's like I say, last time,
I don't give a fuck about who the towns folk are, Like, just
tell me up front who the killers. Like that could be more interesting of
knowing who the killers are, because I think they're trying to have their cake
need it too. Where they're doing the whole you know they're gonna be strangers
with the face. But then we still want to do a reveal. We
never did that in one and two, And even when we saw their face,
it's just like, here's some random chicks. So it's like it's people's
investment in the town is not going to be worth these two because I know
might be a little thing. It was just the aesthetic of like some ud
just did not look as good as the originals. And even the guy he
was worn like a like a I don't know, just workers outfit. He
wasn't like the suit like the original bagman. Yeah, right there, you
imagine. Well, I think it's probably his son or whatever I met.
That's what my thought process was. Yeah, I think his dad's and I
think Tara's right where. I think some of the town's not in on it.
I think they just know that there's some people that kill people and they
can't really stop them, which is like you're the fucking sheriff and stuff.
I don't know, but I think there or maybe they're just got of suspicions
that hey, when we get new people, they start to go missing,
and we think it's these three, but we can't prove it's these three for
X, Y and Z. I don't know so, but I thought the
same thing with everything with the towns, folking like fuck, yeah, we're
gonna come back. Here are two and three and not great scigns. Yeah,
it was. It was interesting to get I think, just some life
in those towns because like in the first movie, you don't really see anyone
like at all. And then and the second one, Oh my gosh,
help me out. Yeah, you don't even I don't. There's no one
even in the town, right, there's just no the dead trailer park.
It's a dead trailer park. I remember, Oh yeah, the grandma and
grandpa or Uncle Rico and whatever the hell their names are. But so that
was kind of an interesting dynamic, I guess I think just because it's it's
it's just like a creepy town trope, though where it's it's not really any
different than what has been done before when I've seen that trope of just everyone's
fucking sauce and everyone's given them weird looks, and it's just like, Okay,
everybody's ellie in or knows something of what's going on. And I was
kind of hopeful actually when we had that one way that was she seemed like
pretty happy and joyful and nice. She's the one that good tippers get good
karma and like drove them to the cabin. I was expecting a little bit
more from her. I'm not saying she's completely innocent. I think they all
are probably in it at some to some extent, but I was just wanting
maybe another scene of her. Maybe maybe like when they when Buddy goes to
the burger joint or something. I don't know, just to have her show
a different side, because from start to finish she just seems really nice.
I was expecting a little bit more of a yeah drove them there, right,
Yeah, one of them, I think, Yeah, I think Rooney
Roddy's son. And then this guy's too good for us to eat with us.
I don't know who the third girl is, but I'll i'd have to
think about the characters in this movie. But I don't know if I'll be
putting too much effort into that, but I guarantee you by a second one
off figure it out. So Okay, hopefully we get the face reveal.
But uh yeah, I think you could be right for sure, just because
we spent camera time with her, you know, like, why why are
we doing that if not to like make it surprising if she is the super
nice, jovial one and then she ends up being baby Doll or doll face
whatever the hell their names are. But uh yeah, I where was I
going with that? Oh? Yeah, the townsfolk. It was a different,
something different than what the original ones are. But it just didn't really
do too much for how much screen time we spent with them. I was
kind of surprised, actually, when Buddy goes out for burgers and to get
his inhaler, when he runs into fucking Rudy Roddy Ronnie Ronnie Rudy Rodney.
I'm gonna start calling him that afterwards. Like, I was kind of surprised
to see life in the town. I really expected, like once they go
to the cabin to just turn into the ghost town and just everyone little food
joint there. Yeah, everybody's having a good time. I have a drink
with us, come on, stay a while. But wait, you said
it was Rudy's son. There's no way, because Rudy son was at the
burger joint, right, and was and Buddy the guy Buddy in the mask,
Yeah, he was beating off to Madeline in the shower and play the
piano, right, Okay, his son was at the burger joint because he
was the one who's like, too fucking good drink with us. That's some
of a bitch whatever he says. Was the girl that dropped them off there
too. I think she was next to Rudy's son. To be honest,
I don't think so. I recognized her. She was talking lots time.
Fuck were here, But that's where it could be some of the town and
so maybe not. But again I don't know why. I'm not too invested
in who they are, But why would you show them like it defeats the
purpose if if they if these townsfolk intentionally set up the ploy of dropping these
two tourists into this location to be hind did and then like why are you
doing this? Because you were here? It's like, well, because you
put them here. So it totally defeats the whole analogy of you're just here
in the wrong place and that's why we're doing it. We didn't put you
here. Yeah, or Rooney Rodney they made a misk he like he didn't
actually fuck with the car. I think it could be Rudy that is the
guy with the bag, but same thing he was at the car depot.
Yeah, so it couldn't be him either. If it's hit like yeah,
he has the same like length, if not longer than the sun. So
I had a very comedic reaction to that scene. That was the only who
they are, only one in my theater that laughed at that moment. But
just him like close up with the boton. I didn't have another take.
They didn't have one other take that felt like a scary I mean the same
thing if you're in theater with us, me and Taylor laughing. I just
looked at him like what if fuck is happening right now? Like this is
like and even when he was introduced, the whole tapping on the window,
like, oh boy, you definitely seem like mashed potato hand guy from scary
movie. But yeah, let's not let's not waste time on who the killers
are because at the end of day, it's not gonna matter. That's it's
not gonna make these movies better unless it's fucking like Charlton Heston resurrect. It's
Taylor Brent, who's the third one? Just got zero in there? Yeah
zero, I did it because you're home. But uh yeah, So they
they go to this place and they said, oh, yeah, this place,
you know, I don't know. He gets some bullshit expeditions exposition about
oh he hunts season and this and that, and it's a very strange setup
where it just feels like they're gonna go there and like pay later on like
you haven't because she calls, but the fish like, hey, where the
people staying at your place? Like it didn't feel like there was a whole
Just make one of them the owners. But that's fine. We'll talk about
George the owner later because there's a great one with him. So anyways,
they're, you know, just talking, and that's where we're getting some of
this dialogue. She threatens to bang them on the bench, but she doesn't.
I don't know why she doesn't. They're out there out in the fucking
nowhere, like just she was straddling. But then they go inside. They
get interrupted by the whole fucking Tomorrow gimmick. Right, she's doing that.
I don't want I'm gonna say this now before I forget another moment meanter I
once they died laughing because we were being courteous of other people. But the
second time when she does the tomorrow gimmick and she's the road and he's like,
oh, she's so I laughed so hard at that moment. Yeah,
he runs after For the first time ever, we see when the strangers run
away, and she was she she looked seedy from friends running through the street.
She did, Oh my god, I was like, this person poses
no threat was whatever, just runn her down a kneecap. But we're gonna
get down to the bad decisions. This guy continues to but like that right
there. I just remembered the moment when I saw her stare at, which
I think was the same shot when it's her in the driveway. I think
that he's the same shot twice. I just remember in us when we got
that and how scary that was. When like the family like scurries away the
breakout, It's like, oh, maybe that's gonna maybe that's gonna happen here,
she's gonna be there, the other one's gonna come out. And once
they made her run, I know she has a knife. They have these
tricks. I lost any fear in these strangers whatsoever because it was just so
childish. Again, felt like a scary movie moment where it's like the person
goes after the killer and the killer is like a bitch, but like,
yeah, not not a gender. I'm just saying, like, just scared
whatever. And but yeah, so they say things class me. They try
to bang it out tomorrow, gimmick. He's missus and Haler we talked about
that. They go and then you get to sketch some of the antics of
her, and like, I didn't think anything was awful, like the build
up to it. I thought that it doesn't have the same tension. I
agree with the curricland where going past the camera that sucks. I liked that
piano shot they had, But what I Sayanatata's I just don't believe he could
get to and from that chair without her noticing, Like it just felt like
it was so in the even just the sound of him being that close as
likes right, yeah, like we're getting the pre at night ones like we
talked about where they are almost a bit more like Jason, like where they
can just teleport places. So there's aspects of it I liked, aspects I
didn't. I didn't know how I felt. No, I just didn't like
Actually when they did the whole pin up girl jump scare and he's like,
oh, it's just just a clown mask, It's like I was such a
joke, Like, yeah, I've never been high, so I get it,
but like she was. I guess he did say, this is some
pretty strong stuff, but like she didn't seem altered at all really throughout the
rest of the movie, so to believe that the clown painting turned into a
person standing in front of you was a a big leap for me, and
the other leap I'll have to before you guys go is uh. I love
that she goes to hide from the killers. She goes in this one room,
no windows whatsoever, and she has her fucking phone light on that entire
entire time. So she's trying to hide in this dark room. But you're
the killer. You just see. Oh look there's a phone light on her
here. There's many dumb decisions this movie, but yeah, that was our
introduction to that. I liked when okay, when she hits the fan and
the big guys breaking through the door. I liked all that, and then
him just smashing through the bedroom door and then turns and walks away. I
like that stuff. But I really enjoyed that she used her architectural skills to
like, hey, there's a crawl space in this building and she just knew
that. I thought that's actually pretty clever, and I liked how she figure
that out and they went down the crawl space, and that's like, that
was the best because I don't think the killers ever would have found him down
there if they just stuck it out, and when she put her hand down
on that nail, it's like, fuck, that just made me cringe.
But I think that they were really onto something going down there. Now.
It sucks because in retrospect, you don't you Movement is life kind of a
thing. You want to just keep moving. But in this case it's tricky
because the strangers are superhuman so that you can't really always constantly evade them.
And this case, you don't know that the repair man owners coming to help
you. You don't know that eventually you stay in one place because you got
your phone call off and the cops will come to you. So you just
you keep moving in the wrong ways. But if they say the cars at
that point though they hadn't yet. But if she stayed in that that bridge
area, I think she would have been safe where she was covered in the
grass. Oh, I think she was totally safe there. We talked about
that many times. When the worst cuts in this movie, they show Madeline
just like running at full speed, and then they show the girl just walking
and I said to you her, like, why would you stop at any
point? I had the same thing Myers boys, because there's a moment in
a drenochrome where a character hides from the killer. And this character did this
too, and I was like, oh, man, did we make this
air too? And I remember like, oh no, that's why we had
our killer run all the time, because there's always this threat of the right
there. This girl's fucking she was running an hour ago, this time with
the knife. She's just tryn like going to the bus stop. Our early
She's at zero speed, madand's fucking booking it at Why why would you just
hide at any point she was nowhere near but you know, yeah that happens.
Man. It's funny you mentioned adrenochrome here. There was some eerie similarities
to trend Chrome on this movie the opening of Ours. Yeah, Ours came
out first, so yeah, we can potentially sue them with some similarities here.
Probably the third act too, for sure. I was thinking, you
know the Mary the Merry me my God, you know no, Yeah,
there is even just certain like set pieces of like the woods that I'm like,
this is like the same, fucking like what is going on here?
This is weird? But no gutting back to Madeline alone in the house with
our killers there, I I I agree there was some like there was some
fun tension in those moments. I I think that there was. There was
some just dumb decisions I think made by Madeline, Like if I don't know,
maybe maybe I'm just really trying to put myself in her shoes and everything
that was going on, but like if there's weird ship going on in my
house, I'm not like just smoking pot and like putting on music and like
playing thee and just like like totally just like doing my own thing as opposed
to like getting the fucking shotgun ready until Ryan gets back. And I don't
know, like there was just too many creepy things going on that she just
turns off all of her all of her guard, like all of her guard
for taking the shower with the door wide open, Like fuck, I don't
even do that, moved like that's a red flag. Yeah yeah, no,
like stuff like that. And that was before she got high, so
like no excuses there, But I don't know there there was just some dumb
decision made in that moment which stood out a lot more. It's this series
going off. Do you want to see Strangers Chapter one again? Uh?
Comparing it to like liv Tyler's reactions to those scenes, like she's fucking freaked
out from the get go, right, like she has a cigarette to just
trying to calm down her nerves, but like she's still pretty on edge.
She's not playing Beethoven's Last Orchestra in the living room. And yeah, and
the heavy ship that like she doesn't like bump into one of the Like I
feel like the heavy shit really starts once Speedman gets back where this is.
There's some yeah, some big stuff already going on here. That's like this
is like the fact that they just go sit down and eat again after it's
like I don't know. It's like I get that she did the whole pitch
that she's high, but I don't know, especially you've had the Tomorrow stuff
happen already. It's it's a little and they like keep coming back, and
they emphasize that they're way out in the middle of the woods, like,
yes, they're obviously still out there. You saw Phoebe run down the driveway,
like she didn't get picked up. She's probably going to come back right
away. And yeah, they have the flat like the flashlights on the phone
now, no reason to not just fucking shine it right in her face,
like when she knuts on the door. Yeah, yeah, sorry too,
No, no, no, don't don't be sorry. I think that one
thing that bothered me was the second time the door was knocking and she kind
of they're banging away, and she goes outside too, and she she doesn't
change her clothes yet till after she showers, but she goes outside. She's
wearing her her like overly big T shirt and she's not got any pants on
or anything like that. And I would go outside like half oh, my
dad turned him is like idiot, Like that is just such a stupid,
like scary movie trope, where like the late the hot chick with no clothes
on just goes outside creepy like c It's like evil dead forests and just like
what am I gonna see out here? I'm sure it's gonna be nothing good,
but I'm gonna go do it. Anyways, And when Tomorrow is banging
on the door when she's home alone, she doesn't lock the door until after
the knocking, Like that just baffled me. I thought she was unlocking it
in that moment, but no, she locks it after she gets the face
to face with yeah, yeah, yeah you Cuddy. For the audio,
listeners. You can't see itim again, just where this has to be Mike,
more like in your face and the original strangers. She looks to the
people and the tomorrow girls like like covering up the people now now and then
now. She's like at that pointment, kay, even if you don't see
the fucking clown, you're smoking weed. It's like, second, someone's covering
up your people. That's it, right, we're fucking out of here.
We're fucking out of here. Oh bit, you know how to ride a
bike? Riding the fuck out of here? Give me my burger. I'll
eat it on the back. Let's go. Like it's just like, oh
my oh man. And yeah you mentioned the bike too, Like what a
convenient what a convenient thing. They're an airbnb. He's like, yeah,
there's an old bike out out. Oh my god, there's an old bike.
Hunt. Yeah, I'll take that into town. Got a helmet.
It's like running perfectly fine, guy oil, it's gas tanked up. He's
like, I've never been an air and be like, hey, by the
way, there's a motorcycle front you can use because I like to pointing out
the B and B guy is not shady. It's not like he's like,
well, we'll leave the bike out there, we can fuck with him.
No, he's just trying to run a business and this poor guy shit is
getting fucked up. No one's gonna stay this place ever again. He lost
a bike, you know when they readout that Whill his son, he ain't
getting that bike now because it fucking the bagman threw a golbam ballmb at it,
and then they tried to make it look like a gas camp. I
said to Taylor, that's not the way it works. Then, like they
like it would have been. This is where I just don't understand. It
would have been so much cooler to me if they like got outside and all
of a sudden you just saw a line of fire and then it go to
bike because that build up, like why the fuck is there fire and then
boom, not just like there's the bike, Like he just like delay explosive
when Yeah, but when they showed him, he like threw the tank away.
It's like that's not how gas lighting and tanks were. Like he was
far away, it'd be different he was that close, but it's just like
he like threw a match and just instantly I know it goes fast maybe like
the way it exploded was very like we went into an action movie all the
sudden, and I was like, okay, and yeah the bike thing,
I got a good laugh. Oh yeah, I don't ride, you know.
It was Yeah, it just seems so random and like, why does
it have to be a bike? Quite like it could be any Like it
could be some more believable that's there, like a fucking bicycle, or like
a an old quad or some bicycle blows up in place. I also love
to see him just going around this place, especially when she calls him,
like you better get back here. But he didn't check in between the puffer
and the restaurant because he's like, hey, what's up. I'm just gonna
get a burger, Like he didn't check like his girlfriend being like please get
back. I'm so scared. Like he's just like, yeah, I'll get
extra fries and everything. He's having a good old time. But I would
love to see him on the bicycle. But yeah, and I didn't even
notice that in the post. I said that today. I didn't notice that
they had her like in her in the post, were trying to make it
look like she's new, but she has under her on. But I was
like, oh, I didn't even notice that, and that starts like Okay,
I guess they're going for that route where it's you know, scantily clad
woman. You know, I'm not saying it's a bad thing to see pretty
girl, but it's just like the same thing. Okay, why are you
going out? Put on some pants before you go outside? If you know,
if shit's getting ready, I'm putting my fucking cargoes on or something like
I gotta get ready for I'm getting my shoes on, you know, like
you gotta be ready for those attackers to come in. Well, it's middle
of the night and someone, let's say someone breaks into your house and you
jump out of bed like are you are you naked? That's actually and that
would actually add to the defense probably Like if you're a burglar and just some
deranged, crazy nude man comes out just fucking full sigourny beaver Bush ready to
go, That's why I'm always That's why that's why I'm always knew burglar strangers
man's running for the hills, fuck running. But like, yeah, that's
why I'm nude. If I just wake up cack hard ready to go,
you know that's even they fight. But yeah, or worse than the burglar
just sees this guy. But I think, what to the point is,
so it's not like she's being chased. She doesn't have to open the door
at that point. She can lock it and then put her pants like suck,
I'm gonna have to go like after the day. Yeah, if you
have to run, just running pants off. But she wasn't at that stage
yet, right. They weren't breaking in at that point. It was still
the like mind games and they're still messing with her. She tried to put
on some pants and go play the fucking piano and everything like that shower wash
her hair like that was probably a fucking twenty five minute showers. She had
no less. Yeah, I was watching the soap in her hair. That
soap would not leave her hair. She didn't want to, like it was
all on take. I was like, man, the bad guys doing that
prank or you just keep pouring the shampoo on their hair and they're like,
I never felt fear like this. I can't get the soap out of my
hair, babe. Music gets like really intense, like a scary violin.
We definitely just got to make a parody movie already and to use these like
those tropes and stuff, because that'd be a good one. But yeah,
so she sees the collect well, let's take another hat break and then we'll
be right back and we're back. So yeah, she uh, you know,
the guy gets back. We talked about we've kind of been mixed all
over. But they start eat dinner. He eats like a fucking disgusting pig.
Like I get say, people being like like like they fucking like put
the food in her mouth, my god, or how much ketchup is in
this burger For people haven't seen the movie. He's biting the burger and they
just keep showing a close of a ketchup falling and they do like, oh,
you're dirty. It's like, yeah, you want to make me not
dirty, and she wipes his face like they're trying to flirt, but like
he'll go back and like he's like like the most fucking just like disturbing man
eating in the world. I feel like if I'm eating like I don't know,
like like a barbaie goose sauce ridden like chicken wings or something like,
I you know, I'll get some sauce on the on the face because I'm
just going to war. But like if my girlfriend was like a vegetarian,
I feel like it was so like disrespectful for him to be like chowing on
this like meaty burger. It's like, come over here and lick my lips,
like she's clearly on the meat in her He's like cow. It just
seems so strange, and like I just couldn't believe that she's like, oh
yeah, she like gets close wipes his face. But yeah, that was
That was more disturbing than the fucking mallard hanging from the sky lad there or
the chandelier or whatever. Oh yeah, And that's the big reveals. Eventually
stuff starts dripping and they think it's as ketchup. Someone was in here,
and that's like, I guess they did well. She was showering. But
I just love the fact that bag Man's like like trying to get this out,
because what they do is they kill an now and that's blowing the table
and they don't see this even when they sit down. I guess the chick
whatever the fuck, it's a chicken bird. He's up there. He's up
there. He's up there, dude, And I just love it's like,
can you give me like another pin? Like this thing will fucking stick.
And then she comes out, Yeah, and she comes out of the shower.
Man. She just seems to be like putting out this fucking bird like
it was like when I'm like al right, Like that was a difference of
the original. They weren't like throwing around like dead animals on the roof.
But it just it didn't have the impact. I think they were hoping for
it. But again, trailer right, trailer, Oh, I forgot that.
But like I said, it did lead to I love that spot where
she locks the door and that act so is right by her face. I
thought that was a good kind of jump scarish moment. Man, Like I
said, kudos to them for doing it practical because that's a scary ship.
I don't know how is just saucy for the entire chase scene afterwards. I
don't know how a is a killer. You stop that animal from dropping blood
the whole time until they sit down with that right moment. They're a good
killer. They're very good killers. Yeah. Uh so after that scene,
they again they're they're in the bedroom and I'll skip forward just another part where
they're unless you guys want to highlight anything. But they're at They get to
the shed and of course Ryan just trips and fucks up his foot. I
know that drops the in hailer, which I like that. They call back
to that later on and he gets a little creative too. I appreciate that
with the water bottle. But anyway, so they get to the shed and
they're looking around trying to find ship. They can't find thing, and he's
like, oh, I just got I gotta sit down, baby, go
to rest my leg. So we'll talk more about that. But the thing
I want to I can't skip over that is I gotta sit down. My
leg is killing me, killing you. These people are gonna fucking kill you,
Like I don't care what you twisted. When when that line happened,
I was like, okay, I said, I don't think I can mass
this movie. He's sitting down because he twists his ankle, especially in these
ones, I imagine a drone. But like this is this is life or
death and they're acting so casually. They're on a hike. Oh my leg
is killing me, babe, gotta sit you literally have maya to two seconds
earlier. Take a whole fucking rusty nail through the hand that like she she
was a champ and did not really squeal. She made a tiny little mouse
noise and then he ripped it out. They like banged her up. She
took it like a champ. She's not complaining at all. Two seconds later,
Buddy trips on a fucking rock. Oh her my ankle. I can't
keep going. Yeah, that was like, fuck, Ryan, you're such
a bitch, Like, come on. It bugged me for continues At this
point, it bubged me. How fucking loud they wore in that shed too,
like anything up there, It's like they're just out there, Like honestly,
we know there's one in there, but even that, it's like,
why are you being so loud? Like just like and I said to Taylor,
it's just like, at this point, I feel like the better option
and when Tao some of them staying there the better option, I think we
would have just been to run, and I think they would have gone away
because one was in the shed and then there are two were in the house.
When they'd be gone, they'd be gone, dude, when they when
they leave the crawl space, just pull a Phoebe and run down the driveway
and just keep on running until you get to the town. Like it's not
like they're three hours away from the town by car like that. That.
Yeah, it was so strange, and they just I think it was Ryan's
decision, but he kept just saying, like, you stay here and I'll
be right back. Strangers. Dude. That was fucking me so much too,
especially when they're in the shed, like there's two points of entry that
he's like, Okay, take this fucking pick axe and you guard both entrances.
And I'm just like, and watch the window, and what happens.
She gets fucked up by both angles. I would have It's like in war
Zone. It's like, kay, who's watching that door? Oh yeah,
I got it? And then he just goes to go loot boxes. That's
exactly I was gonna say. That shed felt like it was war a moment.
Okay, we got it, felt like our tunnel like, okay,
we got a second. Let's just catch your breath, like we can do
that because we're in a video game, you know, it's not in real
life. You gotta be on fucking charge the whole time. I love though,
if she's sitting by the window, she just saw him fucking just booking
it out there, pulling a Phoebe's like running the exact same way while she's
by why she's by the window, of course, like you find anything up
there yet, And he's like, no, no, I'm convinced that he
was baiting her and just waiting for the moment to strike. But man,
I didn't think that that range, how far away he was when he fired
the shotgun, her head should have been taken off. There's no way.
That was like, fucking John Wick over here, unbelievable. He missed the
fucking the killer anyways, Like that was a complete batch shot her then close
to the killer and it's a fucking shotgun that like you know, like it
doesn't spread out that much at that range. But like, even if you
have a fucking rifle, like I would not aim in any direction of someone
that I love and like in those moments unless he's a season like Special Ops
Force, this guy like John Wick essentially, like anyone lesser than John Wick.
I'm not trusting him to take that shot. That was just so crazy
to me that he did that, not to mention he found so much fucking
ammo. And then later like like that's my favorite thing. I bought the
Taylor too. Like when he gets down they shoot, they's like, yeah,
a shotgun, like lots of ammo. He shoots that one and then
he shoots U bag guy at the car once later on and then cut to
the third act, he goes his pocket fu two slugs like I don't know
which one shoes George, right, George, okay, right, So he
had five he had five. I don't know which bullets. Yeah, I
got lots of AMMO. I don't know which world do you come from.
I'm not a gun owner, but I wouldn't consider five bults lots of ammal.
It comes in a pack. I would say, we got five shots,
like I'd be very specifical, like we because like we gotta make everything
fucking count. Not like I'm thinking, yeah, he found a fucking crazy
like he found the box, like ohka, and that's It's like okay,
like we've learned that in the Strangers that shotguns are everyone's weakness in these movies,
so it's like perfect this way to take him out. And no,
he had five bullets and uh he over like war zone closing circle. It's
it's one v three and you got five shots. That's not good odds.
I'm worried when I have one one clip of third shots left. I imagine
that if you guys like me and Taylor are the assault rifle people and Kirkland's
a sniper, and we're like, we got a beauty box we could throw
at Kirkland. How's your ammy? I got lots of AMMO And then sudden
he's like, oh I'm out. Oh but I had five. It's like,
no, like you got like that's when you know, I don't got
much ammal left. So I just love that five was a lot of AMMO
and it wasn't because yeah, he didn't make much use of it. He
did kill all that's George. It was the reverse where in the movie Scott
Speedman knew the guy was coming. His best friend, who we have at
least a little connection to, gets killed. This was just the random owner
coming to fix the fridge again. This guy's got the shittiest deal ever,
you know, close up this tool box and I just fucking laughed. That's
so bad. I knew it was him, Like I knew they were doing
that game. I knew it was that guy because I didn't think it was
gonna be Richard Burke is like, man, I thought it was Rudy that
they killed. Actually, I thought it was gonna be the sheriff actually,
but wouldn't have made sense for the bigger actor. Yeah, I like that.
It's pretty bold to just I don't know, like it's tough to judge
because in those moments, like you're trying to get any advantage, I guess,
but like to just come around the corner and like blind fire like that,
like really like that seemed a little bold surprise and just like wait for
him, what the fuck does that matter? Yeah, he was like confirmed
kill. I've always convinced that if she would have said anything, he had
just been Finally he just kept going, you know. But the second she's
like, oh my god, that's George, well, oh yeah, George.
When they're in the car, and then she like completely forgot that her
boyfriend just murdered this guy because she sees his phone. She's like oh yeah,
and like her like face is just beamings. She's so pumped. It
just I don't know that one it Like I get it they don't know the
guy, but like, if I feel like that would just have so much
more weight on it. Maybe you can argue it's you know, because of
the heat of the situation, there's killers out there and they are adrenaline up
and they are fighting for their their lives here. But yeah, it just
seemed pretty like it was just a benefit of them for to show up.
Yeah, just I found a phone. I got a phone over there,
and then yeah, and then yeah, how good thing would kill George right,
which that was another thing, minor thing, but still, they buy
beers for that night. I I don't like, did they have if you
guys were in that situation where you're saying for a night, you're literally leaving
the morning after you bought these beers. They have those shooters, which they
down. They don't even need the fridge. So and this guy even said
like, well drink, get them while they're cold, Like would you call
the repairman to fix the fridge. I thought I would just take the l
and be like, fuck, no fridge, I guess we're drinking these beers
and whatever. Is like, just put them in the back of your trunk
and save these beers when you get to the next place. Like the fact
that that was the inciting thing to get this guy here was the fridge doesn't
work and it's for just a sick because La, she's like, oh I'm
hungry. I'm like, isn't there food? Like I thought, that's why
you need the fit the fridge fucking fixed, but no, it's just for
the bruce Kis And I was like, that's not worth calling George. He
lost his life over like three beers because the dyke guy like a midnight service
call on, Like it's definitely late at night. For sure, I shouldn't
have fucking invested air and bab. My wife Stacy said, be good now
this guy wants it. But yeah, like for beers, George. Yeah,
So like all these little again they're just little stuff, but they start
to stack up where it's just like we do this all time we're making the
movie when it's like and we're not perfect, we're sandwich, but we'd still
even sit and try our best to go, hey, does this make sense?
And if not, what we can change? And maybe they did that.
I just think there's too many of these little eras for me to be
like not believable, right, like find something else? Have almost all what
would have been even better? She has a phone, have like make it
like the fucking breaker goes out, they can't fix it, and I guess,
like the whole movie's dark then, But they do that a couple of
times, like do some sort of or like a backup energy comes up,
so there's like a few lights but not the whole main lights, right,
and maybe or the water's not working like something a bit more than just like
the fridge is. The fridge won't house our three beers left. Yeah,
we need you to come here tonight. And again if they're there for longer,
that's fine, but they're like, oh, we'll get the car the
parts will leave right first thing in the morning. So it's like they're not
here for the weekend. I believe it. Then if they're like, hey,
this isn't fixed till two days, then I believe. Yeah, maybe
let's get this fridge fixed because let's get some food. And I know it's
a little nick pick, but this movie has like just constantly little stuff like
that, right, come on, like just think of anything more. You
know, the fridge thing. I completely agree with you. It's like just
fucking like, you're not here for a week, just just don't use that
bag. And I was like more shocked that they just didn't have food,
Like they had a case of beer and then a couple of those tequilas that
it just seemed like George had that they're just cracking into his liquor cabinet and
then uh yeah, she's like, oh I'm hungry. It's like nine point
thirty. You're staying in some fucking cabin that's like slightly outside of this four
hundred and fifty eight population town. How do you like you're just gonna skip
the dishes some fucking Wendy's to your cabin? Like that doesn't make any sense.
Like if I don't have a car and I'm like staying in like a
cabin like that, I'm like at least, you know, bringing a sandwich
or like picking up a pizza on the way to the cabin and then you
can just munch on that at night when you get hungry, like you got
a plan ahead or tonight it's a fasting night, that's all it is.
Like, well, I guess we're losing a couple of pounds to night because
we ain't eating anything, you know, faster, I gotta eat something might
got the night Munchie's coming in, would you though? Okay, so if
the option was you have to I'm not going out, Like if if I'm
saying I would plan ahead and like, yeah, let's go to fucking I
guess Timmy and Tina's whatever, the fucking burger shack whatever, whatever it was
called. I like to think the girl that drove them, there's like no
stops. It's just a one way trip. You know, I'm not stopping
anywhere with your paper gas, I'm not stopping anyway. I'm doing you a
courtesy. But no, she was pretty friendly. That's why I still think
she's a killer. Somehow, I think we're reading too much into like them
being at restaurants and stuff. I feel like they're gonna like there's gonna be
a chapter two or three. We're like, this doesn't make sense that they
got there, but they're like, oh whatever, it's oh yeah, they
just run down the road like Phoebe. Yeah, we're gonna learn like that
fucking food shack is literally only like it's like like two minutes away. Like
it's like a like if the town is in on it and the cops are
in on it, why would the cops be right? Like the cops got
there pretty quick, and then why wouldn't the strangers freak out and be like
just an inch like drift and get around that fucking corner before the cops get
it. Right. So I feel like the strangers are gonna leave this town
and go to a new town now because they can't stay here none of that.
They've been the snow. According to the end credit, I mean,
George, George is dead and this hospital is not in the town of Venus.
That town did not have a fucking hospital. I can tell you.
Yeah, what was the end credit? Miss? So the movie ends obviusly
were jumped in a little bit. The movie ends with her in the hospital
and she's like moving around in a weird like I don't know what they directed
her to do. She's just moving in an awkward thing. If just show
the fucking heart rate on her, like, Okay, she's alive, Like
but then what they do? They go back to that scene and she like
gets them, And then when she gets up, the bag man is like
laying there right beside her and she doesn't see him, and then like cuts
the black so sepid, Wait what she's a big cabin. No, she's
in the hospital, in the hospital bed, and she wakes up from the
hospital bed and leans forward and you just see the bag head man laying in
the bed. If this is my head, i'm her and my hands the
guy she's like, oh, I'm so much pain. And he's there and
he's like looking at her like like he's gonna kill her, and he's in
full on he's wearing the stupid It's like as you as Hunter walking into the
Colonna hospital and it's just like, what are they trying to infer here?
Like the ending of this movie they show, Hey, she's still alive,
so this is gonna be your lead character for two and three and then crets
like we might kill her off though, So it was just like why,
Like and that's where I go back to the town has to be shady then,
right, because it's like if wherever they are, if bag Man can
walk into the hospital with his bag head on, like I would hope that's
just like a fucking dream sequence that's act. I hope it's just a nightmare
and they wake up in the beginning too and stuff. But I really thought
they were going to do the same ending in the original and live like me
to like at the last second because they zoom in on her and I'm like
prepping for this jump scare, and then it just goes to her in the
hospital. I was like, whoa, that's a that's a weird thing.
It's like the ending of Prey at Night, you know, like they kind
of threw that in there and then and what a mild meek ending. Like
I'm not saying those those stats wouldn't kill you, because of course blood loss
and everything, but I just thought for for the build up and to get
them in the chair, and I don't mind. Another thing I really liked
too, is they it's the couple talking and you know, they say they
want to marry each other and get to Da da and they you know,
he's trying to say it's gonna be okay, and you can see on her
face it's not gonna be okay. And if I didn't mention they're tied up,
we'll get we'll talk a little bit more. But they both got chased
thro out the woods. Of course they got caught. They're tied up.
A guy I really liked is they didn't show the strangers at all and then
just mid conversation, nice to the guy. That's one where I was like,
oh, that was a fun play on the original because the first one
there touch chair and they showed the strangers and they're coming in they cut you.
This was out of nowhere because it's like, oh, where are they
are they somewhere else in the house. They're gonna come out of this conversation.
No, they're just standing the whole fucking time watching this couple, which
I think is creepy. And then I liked the stab that was just kind
of off the frame into the cameras, like, Okay, I like that,
but it was just one stab kick the guy down the chair. Madlin
says fuck you, one stab kick the on the chair and that's it.
I just thought, like for the because in the Virginal they're just fucking they're
just pincushing them. They're stabbing over over, and that's what it's like.
Oh, they kind of like it, and it would be different if they're
about to do this and then they hear the cops like, fuck, we
just gotta go stab stab go Like that to me would have made more sense
of Okay, you don't got time for much, You're just gonna hopefully confirm
a kill. Even then, why would you just slit a throat too?
If you're wanting like confirmation of death. So that's why I don't even know
if he's dead. To be honest, they didn't show him, but like
I think he could fucking be alive too, because it so I was a
man. He was playing a joke on Madeline fuck. So I thought it
was pretty uh uh lackluster. I said, there's a few little things I
liked in there, but the actual killer or whatnot moment was smith. What's
the kill scene? So in the original you have each killer stabbing multiple times.
In this one, did you guys wonder why it was just the main
girl and the main bad guy stranger. Those two they did the stab like
one stab each, and then the youngest who asked about Tomara, she didn't
do any stabbing. She just stood there and watched. Why do you think
that is? Do you think maybe they'll get her into initiation or something like?
It seemed like that, like he was. I don't know, Like
it's interesting too, because the killer seemed more like ritualistic in this sense,
like when they when he stabs them, and like you kind of I think
it's right before you hear the sirens, he like looks up in the air
and like you see his eyes like close, as if he's just like praying
to fucking the pagan god and like like it just seemed a lot more ritualistic
in that sense. Where is the strange like and it's it's kind of counter
to what the stranger's idea is right where it's just there in the wrong place
the wrong time. They just killed them because they're just killers. That's just
what it is. Where is this Like it seems like they kind of have
a ritual to it, And I like that less than maybe I would have
thought I would. But no, I definitely it felt like the youngest one
was like an not necessarily initiation thing, but like an apprentice type situation where
you know, he's he's carrying the axe for the guys, he's holding his
knife when he needs to, he's unclogging his toilets when he needs to.
The jubilee me, Yeah, so we did get that moment of the two
older ones. I guess we say where when they were looking for the couple,
they like she like rested on his chest. Yeah, you just come
out there in their masks. She did like rest on his chest like a
loving way. So they're definitely doing a different dynamic again, I dynamic that
as right be the couple right, the it could be yes to the New
York that we're from New York too. Yeah, jumping way back, I
just want to say this because you guys both talked about I didn't talk about.
I thought the crawl space. I liked the secret, so I thought
that was a missed opportunity. I thought we were sure we're gonna get like
that crate come down. Then you see the face. I was like,
Oh, they're gonna pull a visit on us. I was gonna be really
great. Yeah, it was gonna be really great. And they didn't do
They didn't go there. They went to the shed, which I did.
Like, I think that to me is more scary than just like, oh,
they pop up there there and then they run away from a shock on
the idea of you're in this small crawl space and you send them a little
one. Yeah, like that to me, fucking scary. But no,
it's like I get what they're going for the sequence of like they're sneaky and
they kind of hear them floor. It's like, I'm not saying it was
a bad sequence. I just thought like there was a better one. There.
Oh, they can go for it. So I was one hundred percent
expecting the visit sequence to come where you got buddy just crawling at you like
I'm gonna get you. Yeah, oh my god, so fucking scary.
You're like fine, Like you know, they might be faster than you on
a foot race, but like when you're in a confined space like that,
you're already so limited. You got rats and nails to deal with as well.
Yeah, yeah, I definitely miss potentially. I'm glad you mentioned that
because I meant to shut out the visit and that moment too. Oh yeah,
the like the killings just yeah, it's I agree with what you were
saying. I would seem kind of lack luster in the sense of like it's
just one stab from the big boy and then kicks them and that's it.
Like I thought, after he kicks them, that's when they do the fucking
killer with the axe like on the head and just squishes its coming. I
thought that's what was coming. But they just stabbed them, kicked them over
because she got pulling the acts in the background, so like, oh,
that's gonna be the final blows. He's got Mortal Kombat fatality them, but
exactly and like yeah, like I'm sure that's a good way to kill someone,
stab them in that spot, but like they're not Dexter Morgan. They're
not shooting in that very specific artery to just get like an instant kill.
Like I feel like that is a location that people could potentially live from.
So yeah, just fucking amateur killers, I guess. And uh, you
know, maybe this is their first kill, like you're theorizing, Oh no,
we had buddy in the beginning, did kill. Maybe maybe he's one
of the one of the people now you know he's man. Yeah, well
that was one pitch I thought was gonna happen too, because we so where
we left off was they had the keys of this car, much like the
other ones. They back out the bagman's in the car and in his truck.
He gets them pinned against the tree and stuff. U annoying stuff's happening
here all throughout. But whatever they she gets out through the window, you
know, leave me whatever. His legs stuck kick cool, his legs just
getting fucked up. Man, if he's alive, he's not gonna be able
to walk on this thing. Apparently they have this moment where he takes forever
to decide to shoot the guy, uh bag man, and he tries to,
so he shoots him, and then the bagman also just runs away.
We gotta shot up, like lots of the strangers running away, and I
left at that moment too. Look, I've just never seen bagman run before
in any stranger's movie, and just see him turn and high tail it like
fuck, he was out of there, and then I was just so annoyed.
I didn't understand that. So he gets his leg out seem pretty easy,
but whatever. He gets his leg out, and then he decides to
break down the front window to get out, when we just to the left
and saw Madeline climb out her window and get the fuck out. So it's
like, why are you exerting any energy climbing over a broken glass? There's
an exit right there. That's how fucking dumb this character. There's he saw
his girlfriend leave through a window and it's not like a cross It's not like,
oh it's such a small window and she could fit through, like the
window was wide open. Yeah, but they're running. We got a sequence
which I did like for the most part, other than the setup, because
we talked about before She's running at full speed and the killers are walking,
so it's like, this makes no sense. She decides to like hide her
in this broken bridge. She finds another person that was like dead there and
maggots and stuff. So I think that's gonna play into two and three,
and I'm guessing that's the guy though, right, the missing guy probably,
I just assume there's another one of the victims. Yeah, either way,
people for a while here. Yeah, I think they'll add that into the
stories in the future. But I didn't mind that sequence of her calling the
cops. They had the beginning, so I liked the idea and I did
enjoy because when they show her close up, it's like, how do you
not see her face? But when they did the wide out show, I
was like, Okay, it's dark enough and with the trees, like you
couldn't really see her there. It's like, Okay, I liked that.
What I did not like, though, is the guy bumping into them and
he gets one of these girls. Because the girl's masks weren't as defined as
the first ones. I feel like it was hard to tell which one was,
like the pin up girl, which was like the baby doll, but
he finds one of them, and you know he he gets like a shotgun.
Yeah, it's like, oh, I see what you got now he
gets a gun up back to their head. Taylors drop the knife. She
takes forever to drop the knife. She turns around, grabs the gun pretty
much just blowing the gun, going ah, like juste ma kill. He's
just mouthing off like I'll kill you. You know. They say it's hard
to kill your first, but you know you'd be my second. It just
got prey at night flashbacks where it's like there's no reason and if for some
reason you do not want to be a killer, you don't want to kill
this woman, that's fine. Just fucking knee capper. I don't care how
crazy this stranger girl is. You shoot a shotgun under her knee, she's
gonna completely turn completely normal. And that's like and at least she's taken out,
Like you don't even have to kill her, you don't. You can
fucking just wound her. And he gets taken out And I said, it's
Taylor aut to the movie The Strangers. This movies have fucking Mike Tyson's fists,
like the girl punched out battle in just a punch out cool, just
easy, outcold, just one punch, and I think it was he used
like the butt of the axe or something like that. But still it was
just so funny, like their punches were so heavy. But yeah, he
has one of the strangers dead to rights. He threatens her for like three
minutes, does nothing. Bagman is running at full speed. He doesn't hear
him at all, but he runs at him at full speed knocks him out.
And that's how I get tied in the chair. And I had kennon
that where he ran he was able to run because she was making so much
noise and screaming that I was able to cover up the sounds of him running.
But I totally agree, like you, you'd know unless he has a
severe tunnel vision. It's like prey night with that call. Remember where they
what happened, And it's like, oh yeah, fuck, I fucking love
doing those tropes and these the bad tropes, you know, Yeah, I
just I can't believe they did it again where Buddy's hesitant to shoot the killer
that's been after them, Like he was less hesitant to fucking shoot a shotgun
at his lover two inches from her head than to kill. That's like actually
trying to get you. And like he didn't say that to George. Why
didn't he like turn the corn and say put your fucking hands up. Yeah,
yeah, exactly forgot about George. You're right, he just sprayed them.
He would have said, you know what they say about your first killed,
said George. Yeah, and like that'd be different, because it'd be
different if this girl didn't ever mask on. And for some reason he's like,
I don't know why you would think this, but like, oh,
should I shoot her? Was she one of them? An innocence? Yeah,
but she has a mask on, she's she would have been she's been
twist as well, if they like had maybe the girl that drove them there,
right, like, oh my god, like she's scared. And then
it's revealed that like she is one of the killers. And we were talking
about how I I don't know when we were talking about it, what we're
talking about, just the fact that they hid like the killer's identity. It
seems like we are going to get their identity. Yeah, probably in the
next movie, if not the last, but that would have been fun to
even just get one reveal in that moment, Like you find out that she
is the tom Tomorrow girl or or the lover or like whatever it might be.
I thought that would have been fun as opposed to just yeah, no,
that's clearly our target that's been after us this whole time. And you've
already killed someone, and you've already shot the shotgum multiple times. You've said
you have bought loads of gun too, or loads of loads of gun.
You have one shotgun never mind, but no you can't have one, I
trust me. And yeah, he already shot a bag man earlier, remember
when he was in the truck. You don't want top them, just toe
cap them like that'll see them severely, hinder them. We're just hitting with
the butt of a gun. Even why are you doing like a like a
public arrest that I put your hands up to fucking go to town man like
this. This is the time what I said to Tarry I thought was gonna
happen, because with the whole town thing, I thought one was gonna get
killed. But the next movie we'd be back to three and we were telling
the ritual that just okay, you're next up, you're a stranger or whatever.
Yeah, and that's where it'd be cool for us like, oh man,
they can old one. But then if we saw the post the next
movie the three back k why the fuck and like, oh that's why this
town But then no, they didn't. It's just they made this guy look
like the the the biggest dummy out of all the Stranger franchise, unfortunate for
him. So well, that's why I feel that we can't have one die
on us, at least maybe maybe Chapter three. I don't know if it's
a reboot of We're gonna as chapter three Chapter three, I forgetting to that
that the original one as the as the like if we're gonna get work away
to the original one in the cannon, then we know that they're not gonna
kill any of them. I would have almost liked it if there was a
fourth one. This is not a prequel. This is no longer prequel.
There's no way this is a prequel with different killers, with this with a
tech being so update and them doing just the same movie again, this is
they might have pitched it that way to start, but this is a reboot
remake. They're not gonna mean then they could kill one of them in the
third one then, but even then, like you hope, so Travis.
He's still still thinking that I would have done to end with them like outside
a cab and they see live tier pull up, Like yeah, fuck.
I would have liked it if we had a fourth one, honestly, and
they killed the they managed to kill that fourth one and in this one and
then you have just the main three getting like rage mode or something like that.
I think that would have been better. I agree again, I still
think you could even kill one of them, two killers that are scary and
well trained. It still still works, you know, like do something.
But I still think we could lose one of them in chapter two, but
I really don't know. And then yeah, that was it. We went
over the ending. As far as they want to get married, obviously,
that's I don't I can say not gonna happen, because again they didn't confirm
he's dead, so I think he could survive too. I think there's a
chance he's a lot, I really do. Or I think there's a good
chance he's in a koma and he like chapter two ends with him like waking
up and he's the killer. He thinks he's bag man. Oh god,
he's just That would actually be interesting if they if they's the end credit he
woke up baby, it would be somewhat interesting because if he's alive and he
he has this like super dark cloud over him of being a murder. I
don't think they're gonna do this, because it seemed like he was pretty easy,
uh, you know, to get over the decision of just killing George
there. That's a fun idea to do with that character. But that's not
going to be the case because he's dead. And that's my prediction. Speaking
of predictions, I said that no one's gonna get any in this episode or
in this episode, in this movie. But they clearly got some action,
right. They did action. They empty balls, just like even Ben didn't
get to do. Even though she had like the most non sex hair ever,
nothing happened there. They just oh, yeah, he's a quick thirty
seconds for our man here. And then they shower and then she showers and
like shampoo's her hair. Her hair looked fantastic. I don't know why she
was supposed to be shampooing her hair in those In those he must creepy just
looking. What's the something about Mary uh scene para gelling her in her hair?
Yeah, that's anything too, or he lost the lost the puffer and
then got the bottle, and you know, clever, that is not how
in Haler's work, though, have literally medicine to like help expand like your
lungs, whereas simple Cibo and Hailer is not real Haler. Maybe maybe it
works to like help just force the air through. It's probably better. My
dad has asma. He's explaining to me when Haler's work that is that is
not a good replacement. I guess it's better than nothing. But that's how
the killer kind of found him at one point. But ye know they did
get it on we're speeding in and Tyler didn't, so you know, they
got that over them. So I'm glad that they explained that he does have
an Inhaler because when the first time they're driving down the road and that guy
like fucking spins out that that looked like the same guy at the gas station
look up too early for this ship. Oh yeah. I didn't say it
to Taylor because I didn't want like start talking to the movie, but I
was like, man, that seems like the guy that we went to we
told was on one story we will on the commentary on the DT track.
But one time when we were filming a drenk rome. We went to a
gas station and spots filling gas and this guy kept drying around for being like
what's going on. He's like, you get a fucking move and there's multiple
spots open, and I'm like, oh, like Taylor's I'm laughing, I'm
laughing, annoying the guy, and he's like that's my spot and you,
oh, well, I'm gonna fill up and we'll be right out of here.
And then as he starts, I keeps fimming. He's like, I
didn't wake up this early to deal with this fucking shit or whatever. It's
too early for this ship. Yeah, I didn't wake up early to deal
with this ship. It's just like it was a Sunday morning of like you
need the specific spot o'clock in the morning and we're like, you're like stall
number eight, I install number seven and everyone else is open and no.
That was so funny. My favorite part about that, too, is Taylor's
reaction. He's like, I'm sorry, Like you're already pumping your car,
Like like you're pumping your car with gas. What are you gonna do?
Get in it? Like believe it. I don't know what the fuck you
wanted me to do. I can't wait to talk about it in the com
track. But yeah, this guy with this guy in the movie was absolutely
spitting image of him when when they make it a little too hard though,
to be honest, like they were not watching the road at all. They
were, but the guy spun out in front of them. He was me.
He was the guy driving pretty crazy sideways in front of the block.
But this thing is blowing him to the thing is when he drove off,
Ryan started to get Ryan started get super fucking pissed, like I was like,
what is this anger problem? But no, it was just because he
needed an hailer. But it was very weird though how he handled well,
yeah, I guess it was just he just it was actual air he needed.
But yeah, I did think it was gonna be like he's a really
angry to stop and turns around and chuck what's his name again, Ryan fox
Us? But yeah, just seeing Haler and they set that up pretty early,
so and he loses it. A lot left in the car and only
one. Only one. My dad has an Inhaler, I swear, in
like every corridor of his house he's got one. With all the vehicles,
like it's important to have if you because I left it in your car.
There were so many moments too when you'd be like, oh, that's okay.
I should have I should have checked, Like like how we were comparing
the first movie they have like tension amongst the couple, any moments that it
could have tension, they're just like, oh, no, you're perfect,
that's okay. And when they talk about potentially getting married, it's like no,
like when we're ready, like it just yeah, I didn't like how
I guess perfect they were. It's it seemed weird. Yeah, there's just
nothing there to watch, right, It's just like, yeah, that's fine.
But he was very I don't know, like I wouldn't. I wouldn't
do that in front if Rudy and his son was there at the mechanics shop
and he's talking about like we got to go into town get the partner or
this. Yeah, he's saying it so loud in front of them, like
he's talking to MI, like the fucking us over, looking at the eyes
like you're fucking me over big time. Here he's in like this hick town
where like his car is broken down. The only way to get it fixed
is through this guy, Like what's he gonna play or whatever it is?
Yeah, it was poor decision. And even if he has those thoughts like
save them guys watching us as we drove in here. Yeah, yeah,
fucking heck, winning down was completely normal till he this is the first trainers,
Like, you know what, let's fuck this guy off. This guy's
an asshole, you know anything anything else. There are some nice camera shots
throughout the film that I thought were fun. Yeah, cool, good stuff
there, And like I said, I like that shot of when she was
in the bridge and the bushes they like panned up to show I like that.
Yeah, Like they had a lot of good like camera work in that
sense. One of my most favorite scenes actually was when the power was out
and she was home alone and she just kind of had her flashlight. There
wasn't all first person. She had like first person when she was kind of
looking through the like the closets, which of course made you think that something
was going to be there. And I like when the jump scare did happen,
when like the fucking ladies just standing there like I it was. It
was nice as opposed to like a you know, like an alien jump scare.
It's just like she's standing there and I don't know it was it was
well done and just the new like mma though, just kick the chever in
that moment, just fu grabbed the mask and yeah, dude, like a
bully thinger fits in the face. I always I don't know, it's it's
tough to you know, put yourself in the their shoes, or it's easy
to say it. I guess when I'm not in Yeah, like that,
like if I get scared, like I just feel like like that too.
And like a run. We've seen a run man like, like just start
swinging. I think the thing that stops me from the flinch of the punch
is then I see, oh it's someone I know. If it's someone in
a fucking mask, I go, hey what. And I did like them
setting up that the the owner had like masks in his closets, so you
did think like, oh, fuck, he isn't in on this because there's
different type of like there's like a pig mask and stuff. I don't tell
you liked that scene. I did not like the scene where they just locked
themselves in the room. Just let Buddy cut down the door. They're doing
nothing they're not checking windows, they're not getting any weapons. They're just sitting
here like and he's like, they're just I don't like how they reacted.
I liked what the stranger beg had did where he broke the door down.
I like stood there and watched them and had left. I like that,
But the other two guys, like, yeah, the other two like revivors,
like sitting against the wall, just like just paralyzed with fear, don't
what to do, like you grab that mattress, you throw that fucking frame
of mattress against the door, like you fucking hold that shit. And his
conclusion was out, they're just fucking with us. They cut down the door,
Dude, they're not. They're not fucking with you anymore. It's like
to a different point. They cut down the door, they killed in the
animal in your house, Like they're not just some fucking kids playing prayings.
I'mthing, ah, yeah, they're just fucking with us, Like, no,
no, man, like I think eventually they put together again, yeah
right here. Yeah, No, I did not like that sequence. I
was kind of surprised on how quickly like it was just coming to the point
where they're locked in a dead end room. They have no weapons, and
like he's breaking down the door. I was kind of like, holy shit,
Like what's gonna happen here is are we gonna kill off a member?
Or like this is where it felt a lot different than what the other movie
was. Then they really breaks down the door, and yeah, they just
have those like those reactions. They're just dead to rights and they can't do
anything, so they're just staring at him and then he just looks at them
and wanders off. I like it just I don't know, it seemed kind
of lame in my mind. It seemed like, yeah, like not creative
enough, like like give me a legitimate reason why he's doing and you can
make the argument like he is just working with them, he wants to prolong
the death or whatever it may be. He's gonna give them in a half
an hour. Yeah, you know it's gonna be worth it all those all
this effort, But what you get. I'm gonna stab once and then kick
them down to the ground. Oh yeah really with them over? Yeah,
and they walk away. He's like, he's idiot. Why do we let
him lead us? One step? One step? I didn't even get a
stab him. Well else was I gonna shout out. Oh. I like
the musical choices, just mostly the songs that they had in the movie.
It was some good beats and one song from the original as well too,
so oh really which one? Yeah when it's like that baby some like it's
like old timey and stuff live Tier played that one too on the end at
the end, or like when records she was getting high, like the first
record that she puts on, I think so, I think that was from
me. I didn't catch that. I'm pretty sure. That's cool. Yeah,
that's like that's like a call back to the original that I like,
you know, the subtle ones as opposed to just the exact same. Yeah.
It's like he's right around this fucking corner and we're gonna fucking get him.
It's like, Okay, clearly this is an innocent guy, like like
I know what's gonna happen. Yeah, And yeah, that's why I'm so
curious on like if someone hadn't seen the original and then saw this, like
do those moments really really work? Because they like they are good moments right
when they they think they have the killer, But it's I think it's so
much more gut wrenching when it's like his best buddy and like the guy that
was coming to grab them, and the way that it was done where they're
they're literally aiming right at the doors, so any movement they're gonna shoot,
as opposed to turning around the corner like John Wicks just shooting like did he
have his eyes? Yeah, and he was pretty far away too, so
like he headcapped him. So well, it's George. It's George. No,
he's the owner. Yeah, they're trying to save us, and yeah,
I really don't know what to give this one because, like I said,
I'm not in the camp were I think this is like if you were,
it's like toughly about Kerm was saying, if you hadn't seen the original,
I don't know where it'd stand up. But even then, if that's
an original didn't exist, I think this is just like an average better than
like straight to some streaming slashers. And that's not to say bad things,
right, because there's some like like back in the day when the first straight
streamer was like hush that one where like Flanning a director and the lady's deaf
and the like. I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm saying that kind
of the more worse versions like straight to DVD, straight to streaming. I
don't think it's as low as quality as that. But I think if this
was by itself and the original didn't exist, I don't think it would have
much hot spot because the big moments that they do in the first one are
all better done there. I think for the majority of time, there's a
few little moses and there where I went, oh, that was cool.
So I think it's just like an average thriller that's like not good, but
I don't think it's like all time bad. So like I think I'm at
like a I don't know, Like I want to say four, but four
sounds too high, but then three sounds too low, even three point five.
I don't know where I am. So like like this is where like
on the letterbox scale, Like I'm fine with giving this like a two out
of five. That seems about right at four, So I think I'm just
gonna go four because that then I also disagree a bit more Like I didn't
think the acting was bad. I thought she was good. I didn't think
I didn't have a problem with him, So I'll go four, but it's
probably more like a three, so maybe just three point five. It's somewhere
in that thing either way, like it's a fail and I guess it's not
like below three, which is good, but yeah, it's somewhere in that
area that atmosphere universe of a three three point five four, and I just
can't put my finger on it. Maybe once I sit on it a bit
more, but uh, yeah, I definitely couldn't pass this. But I
think it's just like an average low tear thriller that's not awful. You can
enjoy it if you want a little bit, but I don't also recommend it,
as I said at the beginning. So that's where I'm at. Yeah,
I'll go I'll go next, because I'm pretty much the same as you.
I think I'm in that three and a half four range. I think
my highlights are Madeline. I think she's she is really good, Like she's
just a good actress overall. So she was able to do a lot more
with the script that they had as opposed to you know, buddy buddy named
Ryan in the film, and maybe it's just you know, maybe he's gonna
pop off in another role. It's like mortal character, right, it is
that character is pretty bad that he got Like Scott Eastwood might not have been
able to do much more than what this guy did. And what did you
say? Number three? Immortals? Mortals three? Where's Mortals two? Oh?
I know, he's just gonna gonna get recast. We're gonna at the
Immortals too, you know, next year. And then I don't know,
I'm just trying to think of some like very okay, forgotten about move a
second. I thought, like an action movie where I was really stretching.
Oh yeah, no, but yeah, Mortals five, he'll he'll come in.
But uh no. I thought Madeline was fantastic. I like some of
the musical choices. I thought there's some nice camera work. But yeah,
this is just a much lesser version of what that original was. And after
watching this, I'm just like, they're never gonna do as good as what
the original did because of just what it was and the fact that it was
so like I mean, I mentioned this on the retro, but like when
I revisited that movie, I liked it less than I did the first time.
And I think it's just because that first viewing was just where I was
in my life, like being a younger of a younger lad. You know,
just like that idea of strangers coming to fuck me up at my home.
Now, you know, I got my deer mask. I'm just gonna
put that's got to run out. Yeah, I got strategies now to deal
with burglars. I got my baseball bat ready to go. Uh so I'm
I feel like I'm less scared of what the idea is. And also just
because it was the first it was so original that uh and just like the
camera work and the subtle the of of the how the villains moved around,
it was it was really really good. And yeah, no, I like
this significantly less. And this was only an hour and a half. I
don't remember how long the first one was. Think it was an hour,
right, Yeah, this one felt very long, And I think I would
have cut out quite a bit of the opening, and uh yeah probably,
I mean I could probably cut some things here and there, but mostly the
opening I thought was just a lot longer because like if you think of how
quickly the action kind of gets going in the original, it's it doesn't take
that long. Like obviously they're not going through the town to meet everyone.
But they go there like I need smokes, Go get smokes, and then
just fucking right, I guess tomorrow is there beforehand, like we call it
tomorrow, even though that's there's looking for. I just want there to be
the next movie or the next set of victims, just actually be named tomorrow.
I want to see that sand bitch. Yeah. And here's deer.
Yeah, what's up? Went out? Are you the electrician gold? Yeah?
No, tomorrow, here's deer. Fuck that it's some deers for good
ship. Yeah? Sorry, three and a half. Four, that's where
I'm going. I'm going four ou to ten. This has fail for me.
Uh, it's I'm if I'm thinking strangers. I'm gonna go back and
watch the original. This one, to me, it feels like this maybe
would have done better if it came out in that like two thousands and like
early two thousands kind of time period, and the original they travel back in
time, like, let's make it before they do. Yeah, it's just
it's it's missing a few notes and I just feel like there's not great scene
and just if this I would I would have enjoyed not seeing the other two
and going in this on a blank slate, because I feel like I would
have received it differently. Maybe I'm not saying it would have been like incrementally
a better movie, but I think it would have been maybe a little bit
more enjoyable because I didn't have that source material to compare it to. But
just when you look at that original, the original was done so well with
the perferal vision allowing your mind to kind of set the stage and the fear
factor for you. And then just the way that too, that they made
the strangers not feel like they were superhuman and invincible. They made them feel
like they were just humans that were there, but they just they were just
moving around and like the they were not it wasn't time so well where like
oh this bag heads and his truck ready to just ram into the vehicle as
they drive away. Oh the one is standing here when she hits the braker.
Yeah, like they're all super superpowered here. As you said, there
was to Pray at Night versions, and so I think this movie pulled inspiration
mostly from the first one, and you highlighted some things curricling where I could
see it pulled a little bit from Pray at Night as well. And so
hopefully the next one isn't like we're afraid of like a sourcing a lot from
Pray at Night. I think Pray at Night. I enjoy it for what
it was in its own thing as an anthology film, but I'd like this
storyline to really drift away and do something different. I'll give it the benefit
because you have your Force Awakens, which is similar to your New Hope.
Your Drastic World is just similar to Jurassic Park. You have these these these
sequels that are starting off their new trilogies, but they have that familiarity to
the original, and I get that sense of cashing in on it to a
degree to kind of either rope in that original fan base or just kind of
like, whatever it is, just keep the attention in the spotlight there for
whatever. That first one did so right, So hopefully the next one definitely
picks up and kind of becomes its own idea to do a lot more and
drifts away from the super powered strangers. I want them to still be that
mysterious kind of thing and play off of those scenes that made that first one
great, Like we got him sitting in the chair and the reflection and everything
super subtle. While that chair is definitely squeaky as fuck. I think that
was on the right track and they could have done a little bit more of
that. So yeah, well there you go. We have talked all about
Strangers chapter one. I guess we'll be talk about Strangers chapter two. Like
I feel like it's hard to not do them, but I have faith that.
I'm not saying they're gonna be good movies, but I think chapter two,
you're gonna get a lot you can. I don't think they'll do Pray
at night. I think we'll have some new stuff to talk about, which
is good, which we've talked about a lot of other stuff tonight. So
we'll be back in October, and I promise you we'll not be boring by