1 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:19,480 What is a fellow thermonuclear a efforts. I am dan to Valley, coming 2 00:00:19,519 --> 00:00:22,800 at you with a very very brief intro before Grant and I get to one 3 00:00:22,879 --> 00:00:26,440 trade target for every NBA team with a twist. I think that will make 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,199 it a little bit more fun. Two news items though that I wanted to 5 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:35,560 cover I didn't want to ignore since Grant and I I'm still rehabbing from having 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,840 COVID. I still have COVID. I've passed my five day whatever quarantine, 7 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,920 whatever it was. I'm just still mega fatigued. Thank you for everyone who's 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,399 reached out commented DM me about it. I'm still trying to take a little 9 00:00:47,399 --> 00:00:50,159 bit of a step back, but I'm doing the ramp up. I'm on 10 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,880 the ramp up of trying to get back to norm when we were still able 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,240 to put two episodes out for you this week, and I think we'll have 12 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,200 another episode out for you on Monday as well, and so I'm pretty proud 13 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 that I was able to power through. I'm also just very proud and grateful 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,200 that Grant exists and was able to carry those episodes that I was on. 15 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:11,719 The two news items. One Warriors assistant coach Deyon Mailovich passed away from a 16 00:01:11,719 --> 00:01:15,920 heart attack. I believe a lot of team dinner. Earlier this week, 17 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:19,239 the NBA postponed the Warriors Jazz game as a result. That's just terrible, 18 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,760 terrible news, especially that's a young guy. He was well respected around the 19 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:27,719 league. He knows, his coach's friendly with Nikola Jokic. It was just 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,760 that's just a somber thing anytime something like this happens, and something like this 21 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,120 doesn't actually have I can't even think of a time where something this sudden and 22 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:38,719 so said had happened in the middle of the season. You hate to hear 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,000 about it. Thoughts are with his friend's family, members, the team and 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:48,280 organization and players of course, so hopefully his you know, friend's family will 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,519 be able to mourn as best that they can. This is just unfortunate news, 26 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,760 and there's nothing you can really say to make it feel better. And 27 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,319 then the other thing is Josh Giddy is not going to face any legal ramifications 28 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:07,120 over his alleged relationship with a minor. The Newport Beach Police Department announced that 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:13,039 they were unable to cooperate any allegations against the twenty one year old, and 30 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:17,280 they decided to enclose the investigation. TMZ did report that the miner and her 31 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:23,000 parents had apparently refused to cooperate with police. The league is still investigating the 32 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:27,520 matter, so Getty could still face league discipline. I don't know where this 33 00:02:27,599 --> 00:02:30,319 ends up. I don't even really know how to comment on this, because 34 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:34,520 the allegations are serious and horrid, and first and foremost you want the miner 35 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,280 to be okay. In the age of social media, though, there is 36 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:44,039 just a twofold of would they ever cooperate if it meant real blowback onto the 37 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:47,199 minor at hand, like having to go through a legal process. With the 38 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:52,120 way that social media is and the way that fans can be casting a pal 39 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,800 over your entire life, having this follow you, I could get why you 40 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,280 wouldn't want to cooperate if there was something wrong, If this is something where 41 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,879 joh Getty's not a victim in any sense the word here, But if this 42 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,360 is just something where he was misled in some regard, that doesn't make it 43 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,719 innocuous. But then you're also thinking about, okay, this is a twenty 44 00:03:07,719 --> 00:03:14,240 one year old giddy who's dealing with booze and criticism at these not just at 45 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,919 arenas but you look at the mentions of the tweets on this, where some 46 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:21,199 people are making jokes about Klaram alone, and that's in itself just really bad 47 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,639 form. The whole situation is very tough to tackle, and we're still have 48 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,680 to wait for it to be resolved before we can say anything. It's just 49 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:32,840 my first inclination is to just one wait, but also just I hope the 50 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,240 girl in question is okay. I hope this doesn't impact her life adversely moving 51 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,719 forward. And you don't want to if giddy, yeah, I can't even 52 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,280 use I don't even know how to use the word innocent here, but you 53 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:51,240 don't if this is some big misunderstanding where he did not intentionally do anything wrong 54 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,960 and really was ignorant to the age of the minor or for some reason nothing 55 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,719 happened, and this is he's just refused to comment. It's been blown out 56 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,840 of proportion. You don't want to see this him either. But my first 57 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:06,479 consider is always gonna lie with the minor in this situation. And it does 58 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,159 look though like the legal process has been closed up. I doubt we're ever 59 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:14,759 gonna hear like maybe full on details at least for a while of what's happening 60 00:04:14,759 --> 00:04:16,360 with the league and investigation. We'll see if anything even comes of it, 61 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,959 if it's swept under the rug. But that is the status quo. There 62 00:04:20,319 --> 00:04:25,000 no natural segue to do this. But let's get to me and Grant talking 63 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,519 about one trade target for every NBA team with a twist, what is Krakolakim 64 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,040 Fellow thermonuclear A Efforts. I am Dan fa Valley coming at you with a 65 00:04:34,199 --> 00:04:40,879 very special hardwoodknoxs podcast for anyone waiting on the Western Conference trade deadline. Primer. 66 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,519 Grant and I will have that up. I think it'll be the final 67 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,920 week in January, maybe leading into the first day of February or something, 68 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:53,040 when Grant gets back from a much deserved, well earned family vacation. We 69 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,240 do have a fun little exercise though, that we're gonna go through for this 70 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,920 podcast that is not trade deadline adjacent. It's all about the trade deadline, 71 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,160 because that's what the content is dictated towards right now. First and foremost, 72 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:08,720 though, Grant, how the heck are you doing? I am excited to 73 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:13,199 see you. Well, you're not gonna have to squirm on this because you've 74 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,920 prepared. This would have been a very interesting exercise with the rules in place 75 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,319 if you had not been allowed to prepare. But I'm still excited about it, 76 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,480 so I want to see. I don't know who you're going to pick 77 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,079 for any of these. We're going through every team, and Dan has to 78 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,879 identify a single trade target for all thirty teams and he cannot repeat a single 79 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:39,279 player. So no, you cannot send Dorian Finney Smith to fifteen teams and 80 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:42,120 Royce O'Neill to the other fifteen and call it good, which is how I 81 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,439 would approach this exercise. So I'm excited to see what you come up with 82 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:47,399 because I don't know any of the names except for the one that we tested. 83 00:05:48,879 --> 00:05:53,399 I'm excited surprised twenty nine times. I will not be surprised by Denver 84 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:56,360 because we just checked it. Yeah, that's where I'm at. Are you 85 00:05:56,439 --> 00:06:00,800 excited? I'm less excited because I can't list Og twenty nine times because he's 86 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,759 already been traded and that would go against the spirit of the entire exercise that 87 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,800 we decided to do. That'd be a good April Fools. We're the trade 88 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,120 deadline around April Fools. You just list Og for all thirty teams that would 89 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,680 have been fun. The one rule is, though, is that we I 90 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,480 can't go longer than a minute explaining to you, and the goal should be 91 00:06:19,519 --> 00:06:23,800 to go under a minute per team. As to why I'm selecting this, 92 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,120 this trade target arguably the greater challenge than not repeating names. You give me 93 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,000 five minutes, and I think that's even a challenge. All right, you 94 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,560 want to start. I think I'll proceed alphabetically until I get in less than 95 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:40,000 until I get bored with it, and then maybe I'll just throw curveballs to 96 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,399 you. Okay, So does that mean we're going to the Hawks first? 97 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:46,959 We're going to the Atlanta Hawks first. Who is their trade target? Quentin 98 00:06:46,199 --> 00:06:50,519 Grimes? I think this is obvious because de Jontay Murray has been linked to 99 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,160 the New York Knicks. But even if Johonta Murray's going elsewhere, we know 100 00:06:54,199 --> 00:06:57,319 Grimes is available, least be trying to get him in any way shape or 101 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,120 form cost controlled wing type player. If you're sending de Jontay Murray out, 102 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,240 you need someone else to play alongside Trey Young in that back court and the 103 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,160 direction they're going, you assume that, well, they'd like to move DeAndre 104 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,959 Hunter. They might like to move both Don Bogdanovic Quenton Grimes a more line 105 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,240 with an open ended timeline. Yes, he'll be extension eligible, but he's 106 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:18,240 not going to cost what de Jonte Murray or DeAndre Hunter cost in his next 107 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,199 deal. He's extremely plug in play. He's not as aggressive as should be 108 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:25,720 on offense, but I would argue maybe in the right context where there's not 109 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,079 a clear cut number two on the offensive end, he might be willing to 110 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,000 do more stuff on the ball, attack and open space, or at least 111 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:36,199 have sort of a quicker fire finger off the catch. Yeah, thirteen points 112 00:07:36,199 --> 00:07:40,439 per thirty six for his career in a thirty eight point six percent three point 113 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:44,319 shooter like at his I mean, he's twenty this age twenty three season, 114 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,439 So like, I mean, is he someone that you view as like a 115 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,079 quality starter, like you know, saying the prime of his career, which 116 00:07:51,079 --> 00:07:55,759 he's kind of nearing, or is he just like a upside as that of 117 00:07:55,839 --> 00:08:01,279 a third guard? He started out again last year, So right, it 118 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,680 might be the latter, just because he is, even if it's someplace's list 119 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,879 him at six y five, like he's six three sixty four and that's just 120 00:08:07,879 --> 00:08:11,079 gonna limit what he can do for you defensively, Like there's he's he can 121 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,120 only guard up so often, And so when you talk about wing defenders, 122 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,639 you want them to play threes and fours rather than someone who's better equipped to 123 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:20,360 go against ones and twos. Mostly. Yeah, that's fair. All right, 124 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,319 Let's move to the next team, Boston Celtics, the team that has 125 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,560 everything. What are you giving him? Yeah, I mean, I'm going 126 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,720 with Naji Marshall here. They need I think you can argue a big and 127 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,919 a bigger wing. They can also use some extra ball handling. Marshall will 128 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,879 go coast to coast sometimes, but he doesn't really provide that. This is 129 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:39,440 just someone you don't need to guarantee him playing time. But he's not gonna 130 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,120 compromise your defense. He can't hit a wide open three. He can do 131 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:43,879 a little bit of stuff in space, and he's just big, he's strong. 132 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:48,600 He's super cheap too, and so they salary matching is a problem for 133 00:08:48,639 --> 00:08:52,440 them, not just because they're expensive, but they don't have expendable salary salary 134 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,559 matching tools. So for everyone who's like they should trade for Kelly OLYNOK, 135 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,759 And it's well, how are they getting to the money for that, and 136 00:08:56,759 --> 00:09:00,919 so getting Nagi Marshall didn't even technically need to send out one to get Nauji 137 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,639 Marshall. I'd be curious if the Pelicans are willing to get rid of him 138 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,639 after they already ducked the tax, but knowing he's going to be a free 139 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:09,000 agent and they might not be able to pay him as they have their own 140 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,120 tax concerns. He would just be someone I think is a great fit in 141 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,039 a lot of places, but Boston especially. I was gonna say it's kind 142 00:09:15,039 --> 00:09:18,399 of a bummer that they did trade Kyle Lewis, like they nudged into that 143 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Siakam deal because like maybe then if they had not done that, Marshall would 144 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,799 have been the guy that Boston or some other team could approached to get them 145 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:28,840 under the tax. All right, I like that a lot. Let's go 146 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,960 to Brooklyn next. Who's their trade target? I think this one, this 147 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,320 one might surprise you, Oh, very young, It sure does, because 148 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,840 what are the nets doing. I've seen them linked as sort of a surprise 149 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:41,039 de jente Murray destination, and it's like, if you're gonna start trading first 150 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:46,759 round equity at this point, go balls to the wall. And get after 151 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,679 Tree Young. I think even after what you've traded away, which will be 152 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,679 mostly first round equity, at this point, you have some interesting salary matching 153 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,399 fodder. You both mcal Bridges down, you throw out your best offer, 154 00:09:58,399 --> 00:10:01,480 and you still might have enough defen to sort of insulate Trey Young better than 155 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:05,679 the Atlanta Hawks could, and I think, look more so than de Jonte 156 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:09,159 Murray. Mcal Bridges makes so much more sense as a Trey Young partner, 157 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,120 does he not? And so that's like if Brooklyn, because they don't have 158 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,080 their own picks, if they don't want to go through this soft rebuild or 159 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,360 a hard reset and actually move McHale Bridges, which by all appearances they don't 160 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,320 want to right now, just go after Trey. I mean, Atlanta's in, 161 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,679 They're not in fire sale Mold. Apparently Jalen Johnson and Trey Young are 162 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,879 the only untouchables. But why don't you go and see if that's actually true? 163 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:33,360 Because I think Atlanta should be open to basically everything. At this point, 164 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,759 I was just gonna say, I like this as a let's get out 165 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,120 ahead of what might be like a year from now, where it's sort of 166 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,440 understood that like if Trey Young is your best player, I'm not sure what 167 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:50,600 you're building. So, like from Atlanta's perspective, like get out from Under, 168 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,080 it doesn't it doesn't help the Nets. So I guess we're now just 169 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,279 trading. Although like if you get a bunch of those wings, that that 170 00:10:56,279 --> 00:11:00,919 that roster starts to make more sense around Trey. You wowed me already. 171 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,679 We're three teams in the Charlotte Hornets. What do you get for the team 172 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,720 that has nothing? Damian Mitchell, I still, first of all, I 173 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:11,159 want to make it clear, I still don't think they should have let Dennis 174 00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:15,559 Smith Junior go this of I don't know what happened there. So let's get 175 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,519 in a guard who could play a bunch of defense. Whether or not you 176 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,000 move Terry Rozier LaMelo's healthy now, like justa you need to be taking flyers 177 00:11:22,039 --> 00:11:26,320 on second draft guys, and there are other names you could throw here, 178 00:11:26,639 --> 00:11:28,480 but like you have Brandon Miller, you have PJ. Washington. I do 179 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,960 think you should be open to moving him. When Mark Williams is healthy, 180 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,240 you have him. Just take a shots on guys who are gonna give a 181 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 damn on the defensive end, because I do think at full strength, including 182 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:41,240 with Miles Bridges, you probably can generate enough offense on your best days where 183 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:46,320 defense aside from really Brandon Miller, I even have more questions defensively about Mark 184 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,240 Williams and so Damian Mitchell. His offense has just broken, but he is 185 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,840 someone who will wear your skin on the defensive end. It is wild, 186 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,600 Like how how pronounced his regression has been from a shooting perspective, his best 187 00:11:58,639 --> 00:12:03,039 year was rookie year by like a lot just as an overall basketball player. 188 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:05,919 He shot it a little better as a second year player. But yeah, 189 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:11,519 I will say when when I was putting together our West trade primer in advance 190 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,000 of thinking we're gonna do that, and I kept wanting to send Mitchell to 191 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:18,279 like lots of teams for the reasons you're talking about of like what the hell 192 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,639 is that gonna cost you anything? You know? He can guard, like 193 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,159 so maybe if he, you know, it wouldn't be the first guy to 194 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:28,240 figure out how to shoot and suddenly be like a legitimately viable rotation guy. 195 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:31,879 Again, I like that one too. Chicago Bulls, can you just say 196 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:35,120 they should trade everyone and not have a target. Yeah, that was I 197 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,320 don't really know where to go with this, to be honest with you, 198 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:39,919 so I settled on shooting Kevin Herder. I wonder what it would cost to 199 00:12:39,919 --> 00:12:43,120 get him from the Kings. But I'm more so looking at this from the 200 00:12:43,159 --> 00:12:46,240 perspective of you do kind of have a lot of guards there, and let's 201 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,200 just you don't know what's happening with Zachlvine. Do they want to bring back 202 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,600 to mar de roz In Kobe White has shown out, you do have Io 203 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,799 Desunmu. If you're gonna move Caruso, get Kevin Herder back as part of 204 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,000 that package expanded, see if you could send out the injured Tory Craig or 205 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,840 whatever. Because this team does no matter where they're going, whether it's a 206 00:13:03,919 --> 00:13:05,840 rebuild, whether they're gonna actually try and win, they just need more, 207 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,519 not just good shooters, but higher volume shooters. Kevin Hurder's been all over 208 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,759 the place this season, but this is still someone who could come and give 209 00:13:11,759 --> 00:13:16,039 you a lot of stuff off motion on the offensive end, an element I 210 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:18,080 would argue that they don't have right now, even with the best version of 211 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,799 zach Lavine. I just don't understand why you're trying to break up the Kings, 212 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,240 but that that's two kings in a row. That's wu to the King 213 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,480 is gonna trade though, you want to send Harrison Barnes, We got the 214 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,639 Cleveland Cavaliers. Next is Harrison Bardons the Cleveland Cavaliers trade target. No, 215 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,360 you know what the key the Cavaliers trade target is Gary Trent Junior. They 216 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:39,039 just they don't have a ton of assets. And I'm looking at this through 217 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:43,919 the perspective of they could use more shooting and in theory, someone who qualifies 218 00:13:43,919 --> 00:13:48,279 as three and D Gary Trent Junior sometimes doesn't actualize either end of that, 219 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,759 but sometimes he actualizes both. And I think he's someone on an expiring contract. 220 00:13:52,919 --> 00:13:56,759 If you're a team that doesn't have first round equity and you're only dealing 221 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,919 with some salary matching fodder and you don't even want to give up Isaaca Corle, 222 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,240 maybe it's just someone that you would be able to get. He might 223 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,200 even be too ambitious for them, Like I didn't just want to settle on. 224 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:07,039 I know a lot of people would be like, oh, Royce O'Neil 225 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,679 for this team or or whatever, and so I wanted to think a little 226 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:15,200 bit bigger than that. We're not that far removed from Gary Trent getting up 227 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 like eight threes a game and hitting thirty eight percent of them either, like 228 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:22,919 that's that's in there somewhere still, Okay almost you know how old Gary Trent 229 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,559 Junior is. I do because I'm looking at his basketball reference page right now 230 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:31,440 today. Okay, Well tell the kids. Tomorrow is his birthday. He 231 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,320 will turn twenty five. We're recording this on January seventeen. He'll be twenty 232 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:41,240 five on the eighteenth. Happy birthday. Gary Trent young. So young? 233 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,080 Yeah, right, young, and like just a demonstrated I mean you say 234 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,679 he did. He sometimes doesn't deliver on the three part. I think he 235 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:50,440 kind of always has delivered on the three part. The d is coming gone. 236 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,759 I would say thirty eight and a half percent for his career on six 237 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:56,440 point two attempts per game. That's pretty solid. The Dallas Mavericks are next. 238 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,919 Who you're sending to? The Dallas Mavericks. I'm bullish on this. 239 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,399 I don't think a lot of people are going to be give me Jeremy Grant 240 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,960 on Dallas, and this is you can if you're Dallas. I get wanting 241 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,720 to wait to go in on a trade package because you can probably open up 242 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,600 another first round pick to trade, but like if you can get away with 243 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,279 giving Josh Green in a first round pick and salary to get Jeremy Grant or 244 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,799 a swap and a pick. I love his fit. And you have Luca 245 00:15:22,879 --> 00:15:26,879 and Kyrie when they're both healthy at the same time right now. Derek Lively 246 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:30,120 is good right now, and so you're trying to you have those three spots 247 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:33,519 locked down right now, how do we get to round out that the four 248 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,600 spot or the player you want on the wings next to Doncic and Irving and 249 00:15:39,159 --> 00:15:41,399 Grant kind of gives you both because you do have XM and Derek Jones Junior 250 00:15:41,759 --> 00:15:45,200 right now, and so he could also if you really wanted to play with 251 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Grant Williams or Maxi Kleiba and then Derek Lively at the five gives you a 252 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,679 lot of optionality. He's also kind of a third not creator, but self 253 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:58,279 starting scorer as someone who can attack in more than with more directionality than straight 254 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:00,039 lines. But he's still okay playing off the ball getting out in transition, 255 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,279 which Dallas has done a better job of doing this year, and so I 256 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,120 love him for them. I'm not concerned about the contract anymore. When it 257 00:16:07,159 --> 00:16:08,559 comes to Dallas, it's more about what are you going to give up to 258 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,679 get him? And I would give up the loan available first round pick they 259 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:17,000 can technically trade right now is twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven, I 260 00:16:17,039 --> 00:16:18,360 believe, because twenty nine is going to the Nets, and I would give 261 00:16:18,399 --> 00:16:22,240 that up plus salary in a heartbeat. For granted, Yeah, I think 262 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,759 he's an interesting I think he's an interesting player because he's sort of, at 263 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,519 least from my perspective, like pretty like unanimously viewed to be like a little 264 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:34,159 overpaid. But also like for Dallas, who just you know, you kind 265 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:37,320 of have one shot with the pick. I have it down here. Yeah, 266 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,600 they can trade twenty seven now, although if they wait until this offseason, 267 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:45,200 they could have up to three first so that they can trade. That's 268 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:48,240 per Tim Cato of the Athletic. I'm not sure how he quite got there. 269 00:16:48,279 --> 00:16:51,080 I think you have to include twenty thirty one in that to get to 270 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,639 the three, because, oh, because then you could trade you can technically 271 00:16:53,679 --> 00:17:00,039 trade twenty five, twenty seven and thirty one, right, Okay, So 272 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,360 like there is quite a bit of logic to them waiting until this summer after 273 00:17:03,399 --> 00:17:07,119 their pick. Theoret their twenty four pick conveys to the Knicks. But yeah, 274 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:11,559 if it only costs you one first to get a guy who theoretically addresses 275 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:14,920 a ton of your needs and is like just moderately over paid, he's maybe 276 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,720 twenty seven million this year in like twenty nine after that. Like that, 277 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,680 The fact that it scales up is the problem. If it was like scaling 278 00:17:19,759 --> 00:17:22,519 down or sort of even, I'd feel a lot better about the deal. 279 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,279 No, but I like that because I think because his contract is viewed as 280 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:30,160 like a little much you, the price it might cost to get him from 281 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,759 an asset perspective might be lower than you think. So I'm into that. 282 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,519 The Denver Nuggets, this is the only one I'm aware of, So I'll 283 00:17:36,519 --> 00:17:40,319 pretend to be surprised I wanted to. I really should put no one before 284 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,599 I reveal it. Just because they don't have a roster spot. They have 285 00:17:42,599 --> 00:17:47,519 fifteen guaranteed contracts on the books, and a few of them are just invested 286 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:49,599 in youngsters, many of whom are not playing a ton of minutes. They're 287 00:17:49,599 --> 00:17:52,640 not just gonna get rid of jail and Picket or Hunter Tyson. We know 288 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,640 Peyton Watson and Julian Strauther are getting minutes. And then also they're not just 289 00:17:56,599 --> 00:18:00,160 gonna give up Christian Brown. And let's in a higher entra if you want 290 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,039 them to go after a higher entrade though they don't have expendable salary matching tools. 291 00:18:04,039 --> 00:18:07,240 Maybe one day that's Michael Porter Junior, but it's not right now. 292 00:18:07,279 --> 00:18:10,799 It's you're not training can savey. It's called a pollp. Aaron Gordon's your 293 00:18:10,839 --> 00:18:14,160 backup five at this point in the playoffs, even if you do go ahead 294 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,200 and trade for a backup five. So you're kind of looking at you also 295 00:18:17,279 --> 00:18:21,160 know two other things. You're not gonna get rid of DeAndre Jordan if you 296 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,079 if you had to, you would, but you view as important to your 297 00:18:23,079 --> 00:18:27,920 locker room. And then Locko Catchar is injured, but he's also a homie 298 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,839 of Nicole Jokis. You're not getting rid of him. It's basically, okay, 299 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,440 well, who can we get for Justin Holliday And then like pick like 300 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,599 second round picks, and the answer is I'd like Exavier Tillman on this team. 301 00:18:38,839 --> 00:18:42,359 That just gives you some heft and like some fuck you in the front 302 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,519 court behind Nicole Jokic, And I don't know if you would play him as 303 00:18:45,519 --> 00:18:49,200 an alternative at the five in the playoffs, but certainly during the regular season 304 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,799 he could eat a ton of innings for you and limit your dependence on a 305 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,599 DeAndre Jordan or even having to go in spots to Aaron Gordon at the five 306 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,799 until it matters most Can I offer an alternative that I was thinking of earlier 307 00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:04,319 today? Uh? And you if you're using him for another team, please 308 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,319 let me know what about Dario Sarich as your as your backup center on the 309 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,720 minimal WHOA? I honestly I didn't think the Warriors want to get rid of 310 00:19:11,759 --> 00:19:14,039 him, but they don't have his bird rights, so just there are a 311 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:15,720 lot of teams where he makes a bunch of sense. Yeah, I think 312 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,160 you might. I mean, the reason that might not make sense is because 313 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,400 the Warriors could get more by trading him to somebody else that has more assets 314 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,839 to give up. But I like the same thinking. You want like a 315 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:27,160 tough guy to kind of just eat up some minutes at the at the fire. 316 00:19:27,279 --> 00:19:30,480 He could play in the playoffs with the way that he has played this 317 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:34,599 season, though he can play offense in the playoffs that's for sure. Detroit 318 00:19:34,599 --> 00:19:38,400 Pistons. Who's their target? So we know that they want to go after 319 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,240 all these win now players. I'm gonna be more conservative and go with the 320 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:45,319 in between us whom you're gonna sell. Can you get someone Yeah, maybe 321 00:19:45,319 --> 00:19:48,720 they're on the books for next season. They're not super young, but they 322 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:52,440 don't, you know, bankrupt your cap space. They're not going to infringe 323 00:19:52,519 --> 00:19:55,680 upon the development of the kiddo's. What you want to do is just get 324 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,119 someone who's kind of a scales all when they're healthy, and that's a Caleb 325 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Martin and so it's you know, you're sending out boy on Boydanovich to the 326 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:03,799 Heat if they have interested in him. Is there a way to fool Kayla 327 00:20:03,839 --> 00:20:07,319 Martin into that package? Salaries get mega weird there, as they do with 328 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,359 any Heat trade target, as we'll see when we actually get to the Heat. 329 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,440 But he would be just like a connective wing, which is exactly what 330 00:20:15,519 --> 00:20:18,200 they need. And then someone who gives a crap about defense when they're healthy. 331 00:20:18,559 --> 00:20:22,200 He's been banged up a lot this year, is not played especially well 332 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,480 when he's been on the floor. But I would love him in Detroit just 333 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,000 because he's plug and play, and he doesn't define your direction, whereas if 334 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,440 you went and traded for Pascal Siakam like the Pacers did, or if you 335 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,960 are planning to go out and free agency and pay Tobias Harris, that defines 336 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,920 a direction for you. Plus, like we know, he turns it up 337 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,960 in the playoffs, which the Pistons might be in by like twenty thirty seven. 338 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:47,480 Yes, so I really do like I do like that exosion. All 339 00:20:47,519 --> 00:20:51,000 right, Thompson and Duran is a defensive trio is mega interested. That's kind 340 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:53,200 of fun. I agree, Golden State Warriors. I mean, I think 341 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,359 you're gonna love this one. But it does mean that he won't be listed 342 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,519 for another team. Who I know that you want him on. Wendell Carter 343 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:06,119 Junior. Oh wow, how we talked about this already. I don't think 344 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,559 the Warrior should be in on this season. It should be about getting guys 345 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,440 who fit the bill for moving forward, and he just fits the bill of 346 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,799 a Warrior center and gives you more stretch than a Kevon Looney in the Draymond 347 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:19,160 Green minutes, probably gives you more stretch than Draymond Green, although Draymond had 348 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,119 been shooting the three ball well this year just randomly you get to him because 349 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,119 he makes so little. You can go Kevan Looney and Moses Moody, and 350 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:32,000 I think that money is there basically, and so I don't know why Orlando 351 00:21:32,039 --> 00:21:33,319 wants to move him. I know he's been banged up. This hasn't been 352 00:21:33,319 --> 00:21:37,559 his best year. I don't know that I trust Mo Wagner and Gogo Bitadze 353 00:21:37,599 --> 00:21:40,279 who they would have to pay after this season long term. But if you 354 00:21:40,319 --> 00:21:44,680 can get him for the package I just laid out, I'm absolutely doing it, 355 00:21:44,759 --> 00:21:48,480 like because Orlando needs wings and shooting, and Moody could certainly be that 356 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,799 type of guards or wings and shooting complimentary shooting. Moody could certainly be that. 357 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Maybe there needs to be some picks involved. I wouldn't give up a 358 00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:57,599 first on top of Moody, but I would unless you disagree. I think 359 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:00,599 Wendell Carter Junior is like a really good big man fit in Golden State. 360 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:06,160 No, I I absolutely love it. And this is even with you priming 361 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,720 me by telling me that I would love it, so I was prepared to 362 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:14,000 zag and not love it just to be contrarian. But that's yeah. I 363 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:18,920 mean, if you're plus if you're Orlando, you're you know, you've shown 364 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,160 that like you're not married to starting him. I know injury kind of wrecked 365 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,799 the whole start of the season for him, but yeah, like this is 366 00:22:25,839 --> 00:22:29,119 a huge bi low for the Warriors because you know, Carter's like a fifteen 367 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,319 pointed game guy. The last couple of years average and eight numbers are down. 368 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,200 He's hit the three though, Like that's that's exciting. But he's so 369 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,880 well that can you get the lineups where hey, maybe Cominga and Wiggans are 370 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,119 actually able to play together when Draymond's off the floor. I think a lot 371 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:47,039 of teams should be in on him, Like, I mean, we know 372 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,279 one team though, you can tell the kids that who that's not in on 373 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,839 him that you want to be in on him. You've mentioned it a bunch 374 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,400 of times on this podcast. Oh you know, I can't remember anything. 375 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,400 I don't know what I say New Orleans as one, yes, okay, 376 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:03,000 whatever, So you do remember I had to I said it with like a 377 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,079 my my inflection went up at the end. It was a question, all 378 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,759 right, Houston top that one, Dan, that was a very good one, 379 00:23:07,839 --> 00:23:15,160 Houston Rockets. I'm actually proud of this one, just like for the 380 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,359 minutes where you know you're gonna have your Bari where you don't have both Shangun 381 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,240 and your Bari Smith on the floor. I mean you even could if you 382 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,960 wanted to play Bowie on at the three with their defense, you could you 383 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:27,559 have the defense to insulate him. I think you have the rebounding with most 384 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:32,319 of your lineups where you can not worry about him really never giving a crap 385 00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:36,839 about grabbing a defensive board. They need offense and like another efficient shooter who 386 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:40,759 can also kind of dabble in creation but won't infringe upon what Fred van Fleet 387 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:44,200 and Shang Gun and Jalen Green are going to do. This is it, 388 00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:45,720 and this is also someone who could play well and help open up the floor 389 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,880 for Aman Thompson. You do get and you have the contracts just with Victor 390 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:55,079 Oladipo, Jock Landale, even Jeff Green, like you could just match salaries 391 00:23:55,079 --> 00:23:57,920 and then what is the pick equity or is there a young player that not 392 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,720 a young player or a player if it's Jase Shon Tate or something that Detroit 393 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:04,079 would really want. I guess you just get it to the point where it's 394 00:24:04,079 --> 00:24:07,680 okay. Well in their most important lineups. What does that look like? 395 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,319 Are you gonna cater to the now and have Boyan Bogdanovich in it, or 396 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:14,920 do you have Jabari Smith or Onman Thompson getting those high leverage reps. Here's 397 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,640 my thing. I don't fucking care. That's a great problem to have, 398 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:22,680 and the Rockets are already I'll become a viable team. He would really juice 399 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:26,200 up their offense. And I think to like another great one because like the 400 00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:30,160 Rockets do just have like a surplus of between Brooks, Easton and Tate. 401 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,400 It's like, well, we're getting defense out of these guys. I know 402 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,000 Brooks has shot it great this year, but like just someone who's gonna come 403 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,519 in and create and score. I think that's that's hugely valuable to them. 404 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:42,640 And they could insulate him defensively because like let's just say he's out there with 405 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,200 Jabari Smith and Dylan Brooks, like, okay, Bogdanovis is just guarding the 406 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,640 least threatening two three four on the floor like all the time. You don't 407 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720 you don't have to worry about it. I think that's a great fit there. 408 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,279 Indiana Pacers, they already got one trade target who past. I can't 409 00:24:57,319 --> 00:25:00,519 just lift past Cosiakham again, that's fine. I'll list Royce O'Neill. Ye, 410 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,720 they can prey easily get They have TJ. McConnell's money still, they 411 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,880 have Obi Topping, they have Jalen Smith, they have some salary matching, 412 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:11,519 mid end salary matching they can send out. And then it's just what else 413 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,400 does it take to get him from Brooklyn. I don't think he's fetching a 414 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,799 first round pick right now. Maybe it's a combination of seconds. And that's 415 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,400 just where you're at right now. Could you imagine a lineup we're talking about. 416 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,759 You know, we know Nie Smith, Turner and Siakam that's your front 417 00:25:26,759 --> 00:25:29,279 court, and then we know you have Halliburton, and we're just gonna assume, 418 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,960 well, is it Mathrin, is it nem Hard? O'Neil gives you 419 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,759 just a little bit more. I would say consistency to guard up, and 420 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:37,440 he's a better shooter than them Hard He's not a better defender, and nem 421 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,440 Hard can guard up, but he is more plug and play offensively. And 422 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,160 so to get him this season on top of Siakam, like that's a really 423 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,160 like all of a sudden, I mean that you're closing lineup options, whether 424 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,599 it's O'Neil or nem Hard with those other four, or even whether it's better 425 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,000 Nick Mathrin, it just gets super interesting if you can bag a Royce O'Neill. 426 00:25:56,319 --> 00:26:00,000 Yeah, because I think well, I mean, I said it, 427 00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:03,039 and I think you agreed, Like if you're iffy at all about the Pacers 428 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,880 going forward now post Siakam, it's kind of like, do we trust Buddy 429 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Heald or Ben Matheren to close games defensively? And now if you just have 430 00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:14,480 O'Neil as an option against certain matchups, you can toss him out there with 431 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,119 with any combination of like neim Hard and Nie Smith, and you're feeling pretty 432 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,559 good defensively. You're like twelve for twelve or what I think so far. 433 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359 So you're gonna have to mess up at some point. The lost the LA 434 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Clippers, Well, who are you targeting for them? PJ was a who, 435 00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,920 No, it's PJ Washington. My whole thing with them was and this 436 00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:34,079 was I was thinking about this before and after the Zubot's injury, and you 437 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,559 know, Tyson has played really well for them, and the Mason plumbing just 438 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,039 all of a sudden comes back the other night, and he looked good for 439 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,599 them. They need someone who can fill PJ. Tucker's role from like three 440 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,000 or four years ago. PD Washington is not quite that, but he also 441 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,480 is on this team. You could play him at the five and he's gonna 442 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,160 stretch the flour. He can do way more on ball than Tucker ever could 443 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,680 nowhere near the level defensively, but he can switch enough, and they have 444 00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:03,680 the equity to get him if they're willing to put their first round pick on 445 00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,160 the table. They have the salary matching tools. Maybe you could even get 446 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,359 him if you were just willing to put Terrence Mann on the table. I'm 447 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,960 not saying the Clippers should do that. I'd rather keep the players and just 448 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,519 give up the picks if i'm them. This is a higher end swing. 449 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,519 But you know what, you extended KWHI. You traded for Harden. You're 450 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,720 trying to extend PG like you're all in on this era and Washington, I 451 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,680 would argue, I'm not saying you could, but if you gave up your 452 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,640 what is it, they're twenty twenty nine or twenty thirty first round pick, 453 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,799 there's a chance that if that's the cost, that plus Tucker and another salary 454 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,039 that you could flip him for better value down the line before his current contract 455 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:41,079 is over. Yeah, you may get a pick a first coming back at 456 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880 some point, Like you're just kind of renting the space for a first if 457 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,279 it doesn't work. So if you make this move now, also, because 458 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:48,680 they're not going to be able to aggregate after this season, all right, 459 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,839 I like that one. Let's do the other LA team. What do you 460 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,680 got for the Lakers? You can guess this one and I'm still on it. 461 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,599 Its Zach Levine. I thought about de Jenttey Murray here, but I 462 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:02,160 just the Levine's salary does make me uneasy for them. I would not give 463 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,680 up Austin Reeves in the deal, or I wouldn't. I'll say this, 464 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,599 I wouldn't get up Austin Reeves and their first round pick. You could have 465 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,079 one or the other. But it is a lot to consolidate into just Levine. 466 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,039 But then you think about Pete Levine. How perfect does he have a 467 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:18,160 fit alongside Anthony Davis and Lebron James And just the off the dribble, three 468 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,559 point shooting, the cutting he can do, the off ball shooting he can 469 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:25,200 give you I imagine he'll be more motivated in LA than he's been in Chicago 470 00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:29,720 for much of this season. I just feel like, I like Dejente Murray 471 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,039 here, but you need someone who's more of a capslock shooter, and that's 472 00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:37,480 Levine. Plus, you gotta send Levine somewhere. And every other hypothetical destination 473 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,359 is just like you hold your nose. It's just that there's nowhere else. 474 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,359 The Lakers, like are the team that makes sense just because there win now 475 00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,119 that I mean Clutch. Also, we didn't even mentioned Clutch. But but 476 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,079 you know, you don't send him to Orlando, you don't send him to 477 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,000 like Detroit. There's just none. None of the other ones make as much 478 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,880 sense as LA. I'm on board with that, Memphis Grizzlies. What does 479 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,440 on board with one? Yet? Like? What's your least favorite one? 480 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Are you? If you now this is the halfway points. Let's go through 481 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,640 this one and then we'll see what you're If he is good, all right, 482 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,359 I'll tell you my worst, my least favorite in my favorite after you 483 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:15,440 give me can you guess which Miller this is from Memphis? Oliver? It 484 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:21,160 is Leonard Miller of the Minnesota Timberwolves. He has done some pretty nasty shit 485 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,279 in the G League this year. I think they need to start thinking about 486 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:29,680 some big man prospects of the future to go alongside Jared Jackson junior. I 487 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,000 don't know what Steven Adams or Brandon Clark are gonna look like post injury. 488 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:36,720 At this point, Xavier Tillman is going to be a free agent. And 489 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,680 when you look at what Minnesota needs and spoiler alert, the player I'm about 490 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 to name is not who's listed for Minnesota, but like they could use a 491 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,440 Lukenard And so if you can build Leonard Miller plus salary X for Lukenard, 492 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,799 that's just something I think they could look. It's not a first round pick, 493 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,799 which is maybe what they would prefer, but you're also not you know, 494 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,640 Lukenard's expiring contracts. He's injured all the time. Memphis is going to 495 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,920 be bad enough for the rest of it. They're so banged up, Marcus 496 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Mark, Desmond, Baine, John Ra Everyone's just Steven Adams, but everyone 497 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,160 just injured. Take some flyers on some younger guys. I would love to 498 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,000 see Leonter Miller get some just real NBA playing time. This is if we 499 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:14,720 have any Timber Wolves fans who are watching the channel, they will probably unsubscribe. 500 00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,960 At that's how that's how married Wolves fans are. Leonter Miller, well, 501 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,920 like you know, unheard or not unheard of, but like unsung young 502 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,759 guys that go to Memphis, UH become great because like I just watched I 503 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:33,519 watched Gigi Jackson and uh, and Vince Williams just lighted up the other night 504 00:30:33,519 --> 00:30:37,240 against the Warriors. So uh, I think this is the correct destination for 505 00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:40,720 him. Okay, my favorite of the first half. I have a lot 506 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,880 to choose from. Honestly, I think I, you know what, just 507 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,519 for a degree of difficulty, I'm gonna say Tillman to Denver because like, 508 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,480 coming up with any trades for Denver as impossible, and you did it. 509 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,519 So I love that one. The Kevin Herder or Chicago, I just don't 510 00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:56,599 know. I just don't. But that's that's more about the Bulls than about 511 00:30:56,599 --> 00:31:00,920 your selection. What would have been the target where even like you know what, 512 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:03,880 yeah, fuck yeah, no, that's the thing. I don't know. 513 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,880 If there is no Carter Junior, would that you think you can get 514 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,079 two firsts for him? Franz Wagner with that of be in the target. 515 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:18,880 Maybe just give Vooch back? What about that? Who to Orlando? I 516 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,599 think I don't know. All right, we are at the halfway point. 517 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,599 I have to zoom out on or zoom in on this because uh, I 518 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,240 forget the alphabet and the font is small. The Miami Heat are next. 519 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,359 What do you do with them? I this is what this one of my 520 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,000 throw over a world Santi al Dama, And this is just born from so 521 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,400 many different things, mainly two one salary matching the Heat outside of a mega 522 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,200 trade is so hard. You have to believe that they're just ready to trade 523 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,119 either Tyler Hero, Duncan Robinson or Kyle Lowry. And of those three, 524 00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:53,839 I guess Lowry is the most expendable. But like he's been really useful for 525 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,119 them. Yeah, that's a relative term. He matters for them this year. 526 00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,559 And so I honestly thought about this Jonte Murray because well I won't spoil, 527 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,200 but my whole thing with Murray was the salaries get weird unless it's just 528 00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:08,359 Duncan Robinson. And so you I'm sure they'd welcome getting Hunter or bo Don 529 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,640 mcdonovich, But like, is that something that he want to do? Like 530 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,720 is that how they want to play their cards. It feels like they want 531 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,759 to go after maybe a Donovan Mitchell type or Michale Bridges or a lowry market 532 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:21,799 and if they become available, get al Dama, someone who could in a 533 00:32:21,839 --> 00:32:23,440 pinch play some three. But you just want to play him next to Bam 534 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,799 a little bit of ball skills, smart player, can defend well enough, 535 00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,359 can shoot the three ball, and so he's not gonna cost you this mega 536 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,839 salary matching type tool. And that's just where I landed on it. I'm 537 00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:37,319 like, hey, Memphis should probably be open for business. So this wasn't 538 00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:39,839 me trying to be cute. It really just spoke to how hard Miami was 539 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,200 for me well, and like without even considering what you're gonna do with you 540 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400 know, as you mentioned Steven Adams and Brandon Clark, like you kind of 541 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,599 got this whole. Like it's not quite a long jam because nobody's like distinguished 542 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,119 themselves enough. But you got Zira Williams, you got Jake Loravey, you 543 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,359 got David Roddy. Like Aldama should probably play over those guys. But if 544 00:32:59,359 --> 00:33:01,119 you're Memphis and you can get assets for him, I think just clearing the 545 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,240 decks a little bit probably has some value, right, Yeah, I would 546 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,799 agree, Yeah, I'd agree with you there too. All Right, Milwaukee 547 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,440 Bucks, arguably other than Denver maybe probably they are the harder team to come 548 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:13,920 up with a deal with. What'd you got? What do you get for 549 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,319 the Bucks reunion time? Javon Carter? Please, You've got salary to do 550 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,440 it. You could throw with some seconds in there that are available. You 551 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,240 just need point of attack defense. And he's also he'll shoot threes and make 552 00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:28,839 threes and not enough. I would have loved him in Minnesota if he dribbled 553 00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:30,519 a little bit more so he was almost my pick for Minnesota. But they 554 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:34,720 need someone who's going to be more of a shot creator, not just a 555 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,039 shot maker and defender, and I think he would be perfect for the Bucks. 556 00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,480 And I think, look, if you have Joannison Brook on the floor, 557 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:44,039 you can absolutely play Javon Carter next to Damian Lillar. And it's just 558 00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:46,559 like you look at a lot of smart people, principally Seth Partner has just 559 00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,599 pointed out how like point of attack defense is just the issue for the Bucks, 560 00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,400 and Javon Carter covers that pretty well. All Right, Minnesota Timberwolves, 561 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,480 which backup point guard have you sent them, If none Alec Berks, so 562 00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,640 you can keep Jordan McLoughlin there, and you still the money to get Alec 563 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,319 Burks, who is a good pull up and catch and shoot three point shooter, 564 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,519 gives you some dribbling. We've seen the point guard stuff. He's hijacked 565 00:34:09,519 --> 00:34:14,679 shit in Detroit. The point guard minutes in New York never went too well. 566 00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:16,639 But like in a pinch, if you need him to, he can 567 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,360 do that. And he's on an expiring contract right now, so you're not 568 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,280 married to him beyond this season. And he's also someone who's not going to 569 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,519 cost you first round equity, which you don't have to trade anyway. So 570 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,880 I love his fit there, and I know he's been up and down in 571 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,719 Detroit this season, but again you're kind of scraping the dregs if you're Minnesota 572 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,000 right now. Do you want to guess what percentage according to Basketball Reference of 573 00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:43,400 Alec Burks minutes were at point guard in his last year with the Knicks. 574 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,519 What percentage I will say forty seven percent? Oh well, thirty five percent, 575 00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,440 which is a career high. That's Basketball Reference though, so I'm sure 576 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,760 he brought the ball up more than that, but also three stuff up quickly, 577 00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,360 I type pass or it's all off rip right, Yeah, I knew 578 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,559 that. I know Alec Burks played thirty five percent of his minutes at the 579 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:06,159 one in twenty one twenty two. Just I know these are things I know. 580 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:10,039 Uh, I like that, especially because Nikile Alexander Walker is kind well, 581 00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:14,400 because I like Nikhil Alexander Walker. Anyone who's listened to this podcast knows. 582 00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,039 But he's kind of like also not totally a point guard, but they 583 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:20,840 let him dribble to So if you have both of them out there on second 584 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,320 units, that kind of works for me. Uh, New Orleans Pelicans? 585 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,639 What are we doing? I didn't. I wish you would have told me 586 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:30,400 that the text on the screen was too small for everybody to read, because 587 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,400 it makes me want to go back and redo this entire thing. I'm so 588 00:35:34,599 --> 00:35:37,199 fucia. The window is if the window is normal size, you can see 589 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,840 it. Yeah, but I didn't know that the entire time, so I 590 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,639 shrunk it hopefully. Man, I'm annoyed right now. This is the audio 591 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:51,559 medium, mostly, don't worry about it. What are we We're on? 592 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,880 Too? Who the New Orleans Pelicans. All right, So the New Orleans 593 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:00,519 Pelicans. I'm going to ambition ambitious here because anyone they trade like has to 594 00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:06,039 be someone who's worth moving Larry NaNs or Jonas valenciunis for as part of a 595 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:07,559 larger deal. In this player alone, there needs to be other moving parts. 596 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,239 I know they say he's untouchable, but give me Jalen Johnson, someone 597 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,280 who could play the five, give you some room protection next to Zion a 598 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,440 healthier well, he's about up some health issues, but he's a better shooter, 599 00:36:17,519 --> 00:36:21,480 I would say at this point than Larry Nance can give you some playmaking 600 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,920 on the short roll. We'll set screens for you. Just take a shot, 601 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,719 and you do have to worry about his next contract, but you have 602 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,639 to worry about other contracts anyway. Trey Murphy brandon Ingram, this adds to 603 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:34,239 that equation, and I'm assuming, I guess it would cost you a bunch 604 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,559 of first round picks. Then we need to have a different conversation. I 605 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:39,559 just don't think that you're gonna be able to get Jared Allen this season. 606 00:36:39,639 --> 00:36:43,400 And I know he's more of a he's expensive, but he's more cost controlled 607 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,679 than not. But I love the idea of just a versatile I would say 608 00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:52,360 he's sort of like a combo forward and big where if you really wanted him 609 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,519 to be like sort of a quasi five, he could and would make for 610 00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:59,960 some interesting closing unit options. Oh god, like if you could, if 611 00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,719 if you could really play him at center, like a lot a large chunk 612 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,599 of the game that Pelicans lineup is so fun, right, like the athleticism, 613 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:15,039 the transitioning game, like he would be unbelievable, like nine point five 614 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,199 nine and a half parts per thirty six mostly as a four. You can 615 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,400 get away with that, I think, I mean, like he's not It's 616 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:28,039 not like Valentiunas is some you know, world renowned paint protector. I'm in. 617 00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:31,280 I'm interested. And although, like the Hawks, the Huks might trade 618 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,360 Tree Young before they trade Jalen Johnson, it sounds like at this point you 619 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,559 have to be ambitious with New Orleans even just like Wendell Carter Junior doesn't make 620 00:37:38,599 --> 00:37:42,239 a ton of sense, but he makes sense. But it's all right, 621 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,719 is he ever gonna? Maybe he closes for you sometimes, but do you 622 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,639 want it's just tough? Yeah, he's cost control. So have you had 623 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:52,199 to give up Valanciunas or Larry Nantz, who's cost controlled himself for him. 624 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:53,840 I get it. I just figured you how to aim huge. Yeah with 625 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,840 New Orleans. No, and it's good. Like a few teams have more 626 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,079 like good to very good players than New Orleans does. So you have to 627 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:06,079 be targeting someone that might just like, you know, be like landscape altering 628 00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:08,000 for them, with which Johnson Johnson might be? All right? The New 629 00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,960 York Knicks, who is their trade target? Oh? Are you ready for 630 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,119 this one? I don't know. Mcale bridges. Look, it's just time 631 00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:21,159 to throw the kitchen sing. They are one of the teams I would say 632 00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:27,039 a New Orleans or a Utah. Definitely, an OKAC could do this if 633 00:38:27,079 --> 00:38:30,400 they wanted to create a trade market for a player. I think the Knicks 634 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,199 have the assets to also do that, and they're a team that, given 635 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,800 their current trajectory, is more likely to do that than a New Orleans than 636 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,239 an OKAC than a Utah right now, just to look, I mean og 637 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,280 McHale Bridges, Jalen Brunson and like, I don't I don't even care if 638 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,280 I would assume ju like is Julius Rannad still there? For the trade. 639 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,559 I don't care. Is nothing even genzol there, I don't care, Like 640 00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:53,719 that's the that's the basis of something really special. And then I'm assuming Hartenstein 641 00:38:54,639 --> 00:38:59,920 or Mitchell Robinson would still at least be left at the five, preferably both, 642 00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,360 but Hartenstein for sure because he's healthy and Mitchel Robinson is not. Yeah, 643 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,400 so we're just out on Donovan Mitchell. That's that's what this this trait 644 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,320 is. You want. Look, if you're gonna go with a smaller back 645 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,400 court, it needs to I would, honestly, I'd prefer to Jeantay Murray 646 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,599 because of what he's gonna give you defensively at the point of attack. Interesting, 647 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:19,840 okay, yeah, Donovan Mitchell's defense. And I was thinking about him 648 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,400 in the context of like I was listening to the Low Post actually, and 649 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,800 they were talking about how Rudy Gobert got just crucified because he couldn't guard Terrence 650 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,119 Man in the corner, and the narrative arose that, like, nah, 651 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:32,599 it's call them also because Donovan Mitchell couldn't stay in front of anybody and you 652 00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:37,639 had Boian Bodonovitch And there's also that's the narrative that kind of fucked with Royce 653 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:38,880 O'Neil. Everyone thought he was cooked and it was well, No, Royce 654 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,280 O'Neil just shouldn't have to defend every other team's best player, no matter which 655 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,599 position they play, right, all right, the Oklahoma City Thunder. Everything 656 00:39:46,679 --> 00:39:50,920 is possible with this So I almost listed too, but I wanted to keep. 657 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,320 I'll talk about too. I'm gonna keep him. I'm gonna keep in 658 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,639 the spirit of this exercise. I went ambitious just because they have the assets 659 00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:59,440 to do it. Yeah, Larry Marketing is the guy for them. He'll 660 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,960 help them with some of the rebounding. And I know their offense has been 661 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,199 great, but they also, per bibel on decks, have shot the easiest 662 00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,159 three pointers of any team in the league. Now that says a lot about 663 00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,719 how they are with driving, which Jay Gillis Alexander and Jaylen Williams can do. 664 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,400 I just can't guarantee that defenses aren't gonna be able to limit them once 665 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,320 they get to the playoffs. We won't know until we see is the caveat 666 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,440 there? Larry Marken inoculate you against a bunch of that, because he's either 667 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,159 going to be available to finish off of other people's drives, or he can 668 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,679 give you some secondary attacking yourself, or someone who could punish mismatches if you 669 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,679 need him to. I know that, Yes, now we're expensive, you 670 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,480 have to worry about his next deal. YadA, YadA, YadA. Title 671 00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:44,239 windows are fickle and short. Now, folks, you get a player like 672 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,519 this if he's available, which he's not, which is why I want to 673 00:40:45,519 --> 00:40:49,239 talk about two players. You figure out the rest later. I would talk 674 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,039 about another jazz player, though, I think that they could they roll the 675 00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:58,639 Davias Bretons salary slot into someone who's more useful a rehabilization project, like a 676 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,880 John Collins. So yeah, he gives you some bounce and rebounding up front 677 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,840 if you're gonna use him, and then he's still on the books, comes 678 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719 off before you get mega expensive. But if you want to make that big 679 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,559 trade, he could be used as that salary matcher there as well. When 680 00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:15,960 you started saying another jazz player, I thought you were gonna say Walker Kessler, 681 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,079 and I got really, really irrationally intrigued about watching him and Chet Holmgren 682 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,599 just refuse to allow shots inside seventeen feet. That would be exciting. Orlando 683 00:41:24,679 --> 00:41:29,079 Magic we've traded away Wendell Carter Junior. Not that that matters for this, 684 00:41:29,159 --> 00:41:31,719 but what are you getting for the magic? I thought about Dejane Murray here, 685 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,159 but I ultimately think it's not just they need a for general. They 686 00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,440 need someone who's gonna open up the floor. That's Terry Rozier this season, 687 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,320 who's shooting about a trillion percent on pull up three pointers, gets them off 688 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,280 in volume. He can work on the ball, but he can also work 689 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,840 off the ball, which is great news for a Franz Wagner, Apaullo Bancaro. 690 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,920 If you do want to run some stuff through Wendell Carter Junior, should 691 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,000 you keep him? And he's also if you go after de Jontay Murray, 692 00:41:55,119 --> 00:42:00,280 he's under contract for another four years, whereas Terrors, you're slightly more expensive 693 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,199 off rip, but he's only under contract for another two years and they're mostly 694 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,760 guaranteed years, so it's just two years fifty plus million. You can handle 695 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,920 that salary structure because he comes off the books. As Wagner and Banco start 696 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,400 to get expensive and your course starts to get expensive, and you have you 697 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,840 get a little bit small at points, depending on what lineups you're running out, 698 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,239 but you're so big upfront, it doesn't matter. Jalen Suggs is I 699 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,480 think he's on my All defense team. So far, he's been one of 700 00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:29,079 the ten best defensive players. To me, it just makes a lot of 701 00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,760 sense. And you have the ability just with Volts and Isaac and Gary Harris. 702 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:36,880 You don't need to give up any one of long term value to salary 703 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,800 match here. And I don't think he costs a kit and kaboodle, knowing 704 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,719 how much he's owed over the next two seasons. No, I like that 705 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,760 fit a lot as like the lower cost alternative to some of the price of 706 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:52,920 your guys Orlando could potentially target for you know, shooting specifically in the back 707 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,320 court. I would also just say that if the Hornets, if Terry Rozier 708 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,519 is on the Hornets through the trade deadline, like what do we do guys, 709 00:43:00,559 --> 00:43:04,119 because like I think, he just has so many It's a weird situation 710 00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,519 where there are a lot of teams that kind of need offense generating shooting guards, 711 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:12,239 which is like what when has that player type in vogue over the last 712 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,280 decade. It's like now's the time. So if Charlotte doesn't get value for 713 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,960 him. They should they should sell the team again. Philadelphia seventy six ers 714 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,039 are up next. What are we doing with them? I went with bog 715 00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:27,199 Don Bogdanovic to get them someone who, yes, he's on the books in 716 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,400 the next season, but they could use some more shooting and shot creation in 717 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,760 their rotation. And you can still carve out a MAX slot while carrying Maxi's 718 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,719 cap hold in the next year. And I just think, what are you 719 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,199 saying in that cap space for anyway, it's probably gonna be the trade market. 720 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,920 And so it was the trademarking you don't need more than that one max 721 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,280 slot. Really, he helps you right now, someone who I think would 722 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,440 play in a lot of your most important playoff lineups. I would just be 723 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,000 curious to be to see. Okay, I'm assuming just one first round pick 724 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,519 would do the trick? Are you okay doing that? Knowing you to kind 725 00:43:54,519 --> 00:43:58,679 of exhaust your stores to go out and trade for a star. I kind 726 00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:00,639 of think it's been oversold with Phillies able to trade to get a star in 727 00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:05,480 the first place. So I think he's a great fit. And there are 728 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,760 other routes that they could go here, but I think he feels kind of 729 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:12,119 a multitude of needs for them both this year and leading into next season, 730 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,519 and like, correct me if I'm wrong, But like Patrick Beverley is, 731 00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:17,119 basically, if Maxie is not bringing the ball up, it's it's him, 732 00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:21,480 right, Like, if you're the Melton, you have Kellybridge Junior might think 733 00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:25,239 he's that guy, Kelly. Is that what you want to base your lineup 734 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,800 decisions off of who Kelly Huber thinks he is. I think the if you're 735 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,320 the Sixers and you're you know, obviously they've got like multi year things to 736 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,639 consider, but just for this year, I mean, if you're a playoff, 737 00:44:38,679 --> 00:44:42,639 if you're trying to win in the second round hypothetically, which is sometimes 738 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,079 a big ask for the Sixers, like maybe you want someone out there the 739 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:49,360 defenses are a little more concerned about than Patrick Beverley if Maxie is not on 740 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,079 the floor. So that's another good one. The Phoenix Suns, please tell 741 00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:57,079 me you're finding a point guard for them. So actually I struggled between Joy 742 00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:01,119 Settle on a wing a guard, and so I did both with Io Desummu. 743 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,599 He's dealing with the shoulder injury right now. His role in Chicago has 744 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:09,719 not been massive. Still I think under twenty minutes per game normally. This 745 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:15,199 is someone who could defend just numerous positions, not gonna give you like too 746 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,159 much creation, but knows how to maintain his dribble and can do stuff in 747 00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:20,480 the lane, especially if you're gonna give him the space. And I think 748 00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:23,960 he can play well off others. And I think the defensive element is important 749 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,480 there too, because ultimately I can't bring I would have if you asked me 750 00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:30,199 to choose, I would have went with a wing because I can't bring myself 751 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,719 to care knowing you have Devin Booker, just like when you have Bo and 752 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,719 Durant, and like the turnal free will be fine, your crunch tinn offense 753 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,639 will be fine. Can get someone in there who's gonna give you He's not 754 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,159 huge, but he's gonna give you wing defense like he could. He could 755 00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,800 basically switch one through four if you need him to. Now the ask you 756 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,760 can get to salary match him. I think it's basically nots little and like 757 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,519 another salary or two might get you there, so it doesn't have to be 758 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:58,559 Grayce and Allen is seconds enough to get him, and I honestly I don't 759 00:45:58,599 --> 00:46:00,840 know, Like I said, he's not playing it in Chicago, and if 760 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,039 they're not moving Levine, if they want to keep the Rosen, I just 761 00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,480 don't know how much they covet him. He would be super interesting to me 762 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,719 though. In Phoenix. Yeah, I like that. I mean the the 763 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,639 plus minus for Goodwin is like is rough and it's not just all on him, 764 00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:17,599 but like, I think you just need some upgrade there. I think 765 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:22,679 that works. The Portland Trailblazers, which which year's first round picks do you 766 00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:24,679 have as their trade target? No? First round picks? Just wo was 767 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:30,239 myn Jang guy? I just don't one. Who are you setting to OKC? 768 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,480 Because they did invest three three first round picks and Jang and I still 769 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,519 believe in him. The other night, he comes in in garbage time against 770 00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:42,239 the Clippers when they wave the white white leg and he just tries to throw 771 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,320 this just daring do pass that has no chance of reaching its intended target. 772 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,000 Who I forget what it was. It was of course intercepted by the Clippers, 773 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,039 but I'm just like, this dude has feel it could be a playmaker. 774 00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:53,480 But he's not part of a team right that's trying to win. Now, 775 00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:57,920 he would play a bunch in Portland. I presume who is decimated beyond 776 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,079 comprehension, he might be there starting five. Well, backup Viebine doop breath 777 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,440 right now giving me eight and injuries. Even Jabari Walker's played a bunch for 778 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:08,320 that team. We know Robert Williams the thirds out for the season. I 779 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,400 don't know what it takes to get him. And if you're Portland, you 780 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,320 don't give up a first round pick. But if it's like you know, 781 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,079 part of a three team trade where you're sending Anthony Simons to Orlando or something 782 00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:20,920 and there's other stuff being worked out there, that's the type of talent you 783 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,920 need to be taking flyers on. Yeah, I mean he's only twenty, 784 00:47:24,199 --> 00:47:29,719 Like I mean, the Thunder should want to keep him. But you said 785 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,400 already, like championship windows are finite. Maybe you get something you can use 786 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,679 a near term for jing Sacramento Kings find some defense. Please. I'm still 787 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,440 shook that I ruined the visual element of this for people on YouTube to the 788 00:47:40,519 --> 00:47:44,960 first two thirds of this or whatever it was, So I apologize again the 789 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,719 Sacramento Kings, though I really wanted to find like a bigger wing that suited 790 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,960 them. I couldn't. I'm going with Alex Caruso, just point of attack 791 00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,639 defense if you want to downsize, which, by the way, so I 792 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,360 had Caruso for the Kings and herd Her for the Bulls, Like, let's 793 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,039 make a deal here, let's do it. So you could just place a 794 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:05,639 bonus at the five and have Keegan Murray and then just like Caruso, Herder 795 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,519 and Fox. If herd her is still part of this team after that trade, 796 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:10,559 I don't know if he I don't know if he would be. He 797 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,039 just gives you a bunch of what you need. I know, defense isn't 798 00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:17,039 their only issue right now. His offensive volume could also pose different problems for 799 00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:21,320 the Kings. This is someone who I think would play in some of their 800 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,000 most important playoff lineups where it gets a little Harry is, well, you 801 00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:28,079 have the League Monk, and then you have Fox and Crusoe. Fuck it, 802 00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:30,719 I'll play all three of them together. I don't care if Herder's out 803 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,679 in this deal. You play those three with Kegan Murray, it's a bonus. 804 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,159 Let's just see what happens. And if Monk's not hitting, which happens 805 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,599 every third game, Like you close with Caruso and is somewhat not offensively so 806 00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:45,840 much, but he's insurance against Monk leaving in free agency. They have his 807 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,199 early bird right, so they should keep him. But if they don't want 808 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,880 to pay him, that's good insurance because you have Cruso cost control for another 809 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,480 year. Yeah, all right, we have four teams left. I haven't 810 00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:58,119 done this yet, but I kind of there's a few names that you haven't 811 00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:01,440 said yet that I thought you might by now. So can I guess your 812 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,880 Spurs and you can just tell me that I'm wrong as long as the guest 813 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,440 is not de Jontay Murray. It's not John Saint Murray. Did you use 814 00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:13,199 him yet? You didn't use him yet? You know what, We'll go 815 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,840 go ahead? Is it Tias Jones for the Spurs? It ties job? 816 00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:22,119 Yeah? Look, Trey Jones is starting, so he can continue to start 817 00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:25,000 bring tie us off the bench. But like the numbers with Wemby and Trey 818 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:28,840 on the court together are filthy. And do you know, first of all, 819 00:49:29,039 --> 00:49:30,519 do you know what eever digging set is for a team that sucks as 820 00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,079 hard as the Spurs do this year? It gets beat by ten per possessions? 821 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,320 Yeah, every night yeah, that ties to the equations. Who's gotten 822 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,119 through some stretches of like scoring heaters, which would also help you. Now 823 00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,440 you could do whatever you want, tie us off the bench, tray off 824 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,800 the bench. There's always a flour general who doesn't have to dominate the action 825 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:51,239 you want to fringe upon. You know, Devin Vessel getting his Jeremy Sell 826 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,559 and getting his whatever you feel about Keldon Johnson limits you'r you know, having 827 00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:58,679 to try out the Blake Wesley card at the moment, and I do. 828 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,599 Look, I would give up that's Charlotte pick, that's lottery protected before turning 829 00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:06,400 into two seconds. I think in twenty five I would do that plus your 830 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,920 salary for Tyas Jones and a heartbeat if I'm san Antonio. All right, 831 00:50:10,159 --> 00:50:14,599 so we got three teams left. Toronto Raptors are up next. Are you 832 00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:17,039 sending de Jonte Murray to the Raptors? I am not. I'm sending Johnathan 833 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:20,840 Isaac to the Raptors because I love it. They kind of need the big 834 00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:22,760 and you have Bruce Brown now, so I don't like. Is that the 835 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,440 salary shunning out or is it something else? I just think you can't count 836 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,159 on him to play a ton of minutes. The Magic know of this. 837 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,639 They're kind of set up front, and maybe instead of trading Mendel Carter Junior, 838 00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:35,360 you trade Jonathan Isaac, who's probably not gonna be long for your team 839 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,039 anyway, and just Toronto kind of needs just more dudes up front all of 840 00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:42,960 a sudden, who aren't eighty. I know they have Fad Young and Otto 841 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,199 Porter Junior is what is he like? Thirty one going on eighty? With 842 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,320 his injury history, he would give you some nice, you know, defensive 843 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,519 structure there, especially with Yaka pearl Out. I'd be curious what the package 844 00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,360 would look like. It feels like there'd be a third team there, but 845 00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,039 I love the idea as a player. Jonathan Isaac in Toronto, All right, 846 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,840 are you sending Kyle Kuzmer to the Utah Jazz? I am not. 847 00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:09,079 I'm sending do Jon de Martin. Just kidding. I thought so de Jean 848 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,559 deay Murray could go here, and I'm gonna tell you why I didn't before 849 00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:15,840 I reveal who I did. Utah is playing so well. I mean someone 850 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,119 who doesn't come in and like needs the ball as much. He would help 851 00:51:20,199 --> 00:51:22,760 their defense and he makes so much sense in some of their better lineups, 852 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,800 and like, you know, having Keante, George should have learned underneath him. 853 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,320 But then I'm like, well, the Jean de Murrigs want a contract 854 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,559 for four more years, you could reflip him, but does he stand in 855 00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:35,719 the way of George at all? You're probably not playing those two together. 856 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,760 You could, but I don't know how often you are. This team needs 857 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,559 like wings, combo forward or combo wing types, and so they have the 858 00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:45,239 picks to create their own trade market, which is why they staid Patrick Williams. 859 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,199 He would be fun as hell on this team for what he can do 860 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,519 defensively, and you can you can actually look at his offensive flashes and not 861 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,960 need them to be signs of something more sustainable because of what else you have 862 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:00,719 on on this roster. You don't really have to worry about paying him illustrated 863 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,280 free agency because you just can. I'd just be curious what's the pickeck, 864 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,519 what he would take. I almost just feel like even if it was two 865 00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:12,400 firsts and it's none of your primetime first I would consider it if I'm in 866 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,960 Utah. And plus, like you know, anytime Patrick Williams shows up on 867 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,880 a team, it means you're about to trade Lowry Markinen. So uh, 868 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,599 that might just you know, to set the wheels in motion for some bad 869 00:52:24,639 --> 00:52:28,440 decisions in Utah. All right, we have one team left. This is 870 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,360 the Washington Wizards. You can't trade them Kyle Cuzmi because he's already there. 871 00:52:32,039 --> 00:52:36,480 You can't trade them to Jonte Murray because nobody as good as Murray deserves that. 872 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,840 So who are you sending to Washington? I am sending Killian Hayes. 873 00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:44,079 Just take a flyer on it. I mean, they need a guard of 874 00:52:44,119 --> 00:52:46,320 the future. I don't think it's Killian Hayes, but he's someone who gives 875 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,480 a shit about defense, and he can make some plays in the pocket, 876 00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:52,599 and he does go through these stretches where it's like, whoa Killian Hayes is 877 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:57,480 a mid range jumper. Now it's he's here, He's for real. H 878 00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,199 So and look look get the floater going down? Or oh my god, 879 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,119 did he reach the rim and actually finish? Why not? Just why not? 880 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,039 So it's it's what do you have to lose here? And Detroit wats 881 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:10,079 players who are good and so could you see them being interested in like Kyle 882 00:53:10,199 --> 00:53:14,719 Kuzma. So you're using him and like you're getting Killian Hayes and something else 883 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,880 back. You probably want an actual first round pick. Uh, but Hayes 884 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,960 is not long for Detroit and he's gonna be a restricted free agent this year. 885 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,119 Like just take a flop like this is it's sort of just like the 886 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,639 Charlotte Path where you could have slotted davy On Mitchell here. I would say 887 00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:30,840 you could slot Dennis Smith junior here, you could you can slot whoever hears. 888 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,559 Just Killian Hayes is younger and intriguing on defense to me, I think 889 00:53:35,639 --> 00:53:38,440 too, if you could get the Pistons to include James Wiseman and reunite him 890 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:43,119 with Jordan Poole, you could just get that second timeline just up and running 891 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,800 real quick. Yeah, then you got trade for community at that point, 892 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:50,480 right, And just like you have the genesism you already and you don't have 893 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,960 Ryan Rollins anymore due to shoplifting. Uh, but you've got a lot of 894 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,280 warriors, guys. I think that makes it. I was so wild by 895 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,920 the way he's like stealing. It feels like essentials, and so it's like, 896 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,920 did he need the money? He's making seven figures? So is that 897 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:07,000 is that I I want to know more, but then I also don't because 898 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:08,719 like, no matter what the actual truth of it is, it'll be like 899 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,280 a bummer, So I don't. I kind of don't want to know more 900 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,360 about it. Uh. I'm amazed you didn't know. So you did move 901 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:21,960 Jeremy Grant. You did not move to Jontay Murray or Kyle Kuzma. I'm 902 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,239 trying to think who those are. Kind of the the Kyle Kuzma thing is 903 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,360 really just it's hard to find a fit that you love because I like him 904 00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,719 in Sacramento and I liked him in Memphis before their entire team just like died. 905 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,599 Basically, did you consider Malcolm Brogden or Anthony Simon's for anybody? I 906 00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:42,639 had? So I had Brogden going to Houston at first, and then I 907 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,280 decided that I liked Boyon there more. I did have de Jontay going to 908 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,840 Brooklyn at one point instead of Tray, and then I said, fuck this, 909 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440 like let's be a little bit more because I just know the nets are 910 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,119 in the middle, so why are they doing that? Uh? And Dejontay 911 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,719 was like fit so many places. He was the one where I was like 912 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,679 I should put him somewhere, but it I got it, like, and 913 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,000 him back to the Spurs is just like that's I would do it, don't 914 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,280 get me wrong, but it just didn't feel realistic. Yeah, it's a 915 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,159 weird one like it it makes sense, but then it's also like, what 916 00:55:10,519 --> 00:55:14,719 was the point of all this? Honestly, I'm kind of all aboard just 917 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,599 trying him out in New York that if it wasn't if I wasn't gonna go, 918 00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:20,239 you know, throw the kitchen sting for Michael Bridges, I would have 919 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,880 considered doing that. Yeah, excellent job by you. I I appreciate these 920 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,280 so much because I suck at this really badly and I just get tired of 921 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,440 coming up with trade candidates. So I hope it was enjoyable. I'm so 922 00:55:32,639 --> 00:55:36,760 so. I spent like not too much time with the visual but I thought 923 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,599 the visual element made so much sense, and then I fucked it up to 924 00:55:38,679 --> 00:55:43,639 the first half by trying to split my screen. But you got you gotta 925 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:51,920 let it go. You can read it. It's I'm gonna get our screens 926 00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,599 sorted here as we get into some Guessa players. So are you able to 927 00:55:55,039 --> 00:56:00,400 to start us off with with Guessa players? Yes, this I'm to use 928 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:07,079 beer riches from discord. I'm going to like give a preamble on it, 929 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,400 but I think it's better if I don't. All right, number one, 930 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,800 Clue number one, do you need to get into the mind of a psychopath? 931 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,800 Or is that just a bit that I get to? Yeah, I 932 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,800 need to get okay, all right, I think I'm ready, all right, 933 00:56:22,039 --> 00:56:25,280 Number one. I was drafted in the late first round in the mid 934 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,280 two thousands. I was a double double guy for much of my career. 935 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:36,719 That's not good down to he was an early first rounder first of all. 936 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,960 In the nineties, I was a clue number two. I was a two 937 00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:46,440 time All star, once in each conference. In my second all star season, 938 00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:51,679 I was shockingly top twenty in wind shares, which contradicts some of the 939 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,920 perception that I was an empty calorie stat stuffer. Did they mention the position 940 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,960 in the first clue? No, just that he's a double double guy, 941 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:05,159 so you're you're gonna although it doesn't say what kind of double double. Well, 942 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,159 I don't want to lead you astray with that, all right. Clue 943 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:12,400 number three, and you only have five clues. Clue three, I should 944 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,280 have been a classic stretch four but I didn't actually stretch as I totaled twenty 945 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:22,760 nine attempted threes in my career and I made one. Remember they drafted late 946 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:28,519 mid two thousands. Sorry, I should have been a stretch four. I 947 00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:31,199 got nothing I want to. I'm going to look up the draft year just 948 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,320 to be just. I'll give you the draft year two thousand and six. 949 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,960 Oh sorry, two thousand and five draft. It's not a March datam a. 950 00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:44,440 No, two thousand and five is too late. Ahead. Yeah too. 951 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:47,280 During high school, this was the clue I would get it on if 952 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,960 this were me. I think during high school my claim to fame was beating 953 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:57,119 James White in the two thousand and one McDonald's All American Dunk Contest, which 954 00:57:57,239 --> 00:58:04,400 looking back, was a complete outrage. I can give you some background on 955 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,400 this one. This is not a part of the clue, but in fairness, 956 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,960 I will give it to you because you're gonna get it on the next 957 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,559 clue. So James White did a two handed dunk from the free throw line, 958 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,320 which it's like in standard definition is the only way you can see it. 959 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,639 And then this person I think, threw a lob to himself from the 960 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:30,920 right corner took his shirt off and then reverse dunked it and won over James 961 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:37,679 White. Dunking from the free throw line with two hands and the rim I'm 962 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,119 fairly sure was like nine foot four, because every dunk in this contest like 963 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,119 was obscene. So I don't know if that helps you too much. No, 964 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,880 it doesn't help me at all. But that's an interesting anecdote. All 965 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:54,519 right, Was it all right me agreeing to come off the bench kickstarted a 966 00:58:54,679 --> 00:59:06,679 dynasty in the mid to late twenty tens. Oh no, let's see, 967 00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:10,840 I don't know I would. I'm gonna take issue. Why did I say 968 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:15,679 ray alln Wow? Also I'm trying to think, oh yeah. Also, 969 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,000 in this email from be Rich, he doesn't even tell me who the player 970 00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:23,239 is. I just know it from the clues. Uh, So I would 971 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,599 say that I don't know that he agreed to come off the bench. I 972 00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:32,079 believe it was a hamstring injury in training camp that allowed another power forward to 973 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:40,119 start ahead of him for this blossoming dynasty, and that power forward basically completely 974 00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:45,440 it is David Lee. You got it. I do not know that dunking 975 00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:47,760 story about David Lee. That's what got me. You can go on YouTube 976 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,239 and look up James White David Lee Dunk Contest and you'll see it. You'll 977 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,679 you'll barely see it because it is not an HD. I'm pretty sure as 978 00:59:55,719 --> 01:00:00,119 I recall, Oh my god, all right, let's see, I got 979 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,480 uh, I got several more here? You want to rotate? Sure, 980 01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:09,000 go ahead, all right, This one's for Mike hrnishon clue number one, 981 01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:17,920 I played at Georgia Tech with Chris Bosh, m Jared Jack's too old? 982 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:23,199 Is it? It's not Jered Jack? Is Jack? Come on, Mike, 983 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:29,440 what's up? Seven clues that you gotta That's gotta be some sort of 984 01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:30,960 you want to read? We already of the clues really good? Would you 985 01:00:31,039 --> 01:00:35,199 like to read him? This was just a blast in the past one where 986 01:00:35,239 --> 01:00:37,199 I clue number two as I competed for the starting point guard position of my 987 01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:43,239 first NBA stop with the likes of Wan Dixon, Sebastian Telfair and Steve Blake. 988 01:00:44,199 --> 01:00:47,039 Oh see, I wouldn't have got it off of that one. I 989 01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:50,079 think that when you would have gotten it on. I retired in the G 990 01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:52,079 League playing for theig Nite, being a player, coach and mentor to Jalen 991 01:00:52,119 --> 01:00:57,719 Green and Jonathan kaminga me, yeah, yeah, great mustache. Had you 992 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,280 mentioned just the pencil mustache, sir Jack had, that would have been a 993 01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:04,840 good clue. Also, if you can see on right now, he's an 994 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,880 assistant somewhere. I just saw him the other night. I also think this 995 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:13,599 is going to be a deep cut. But he is a inssistant with the 996 01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:15,199 Detroit Pistons, so I don't know if he has a future as a coach, 997 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:21,760 but I think you might have been an extra on white collar, as 998 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,719 like a bodyguard. What are you kidding? That clue would not have helped 999 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,920 me. No, the clue I would have give you if you didn't get 1000 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,599 one of the seven was I threw a full court heave that sailed over the 1001 01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:36,719 backboard in massive square Guarden. I think he also made the pass to Draymond 1002 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,159 Green for a layup that beat the heat in Miami, like in twenty thirteen 1003 01:01:40,199 --> 01:01:44,719 when everybody was kind of like are the Warriors good? And that was like 1004 01:01:45,199 --> 01:01:47,480 one of the former one of the biggest wins. I think it was him 1005 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:52,079 that made the pass for a game winning layup that Draymond hit against the heat 1006 01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:57,760 in my like the heatles in Miami, all Right, let's see I okay, 1007 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,719 I'm gonna give you one from Mike here too, if I can pull 1008 01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,440 it up. All right, let me make sure I know it, okay. 1009 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,840 Number one. I was drafted outside the lottery in nineteen ninety six. 1010 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,639 Everybody knows you love these nineties draft guys. Number two. I joined the 1011 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:22,119 NBA at age twenty one in nineteen ninety eight after playing internationally from the age 1012 01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:27,599 of sixteen, So he's in the league. In ninety eight, Clue number 1013 01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:30,440 three. As a rookie, I averaged eight points a game in a lockout 1014 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,880 shortened season, with not so great shooting splits of thirty eight, thirty two, 1015 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,920 eighty five. This would not become the norm. Over the next six 1016 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:43,440 seasons. This is Clue four. I became the best three point shooter in 1017 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,840 the NBA, including four seasons over forty percent from deep, my best season 1018 01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,840 coming in three to oh four, where I shot forty three percent from three 1019 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,199 and averaged twenty four points per game. Twenty four points per game after playing 1020 01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:05,159 overseas all right. Clue number five. In two thousand and five, I 1021 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,400 was traded to Indiana after the team that drafted me entered what would be a 1022 01:03:08,639 --> 01:03:17,760 lengthy rebuild. Emphasis on lengthy clue number six. I then signed a large 1023 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,239 deal at the time with the Hornets five for sixty four, where I played 1024 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:27,079 for four years before getting shipped out for Marcus Banks and Jared Jack. There 1025 01:03:27,079 --> 01:03:35,760 he is again to the Raptors. Jamal Mashburn. No. Clue seven. 1026 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,039 I only played two games north of the border before getting out. I'll go 1027 01:03:39,159 --> 01:03:44,039 right to clue eight. I signed with the MAVs in twenty eleven, but 1028 01:03:44,239 --> 01:03:46,639 was not a part of the title team as a neck injury ended my career. 1029 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:55,880 Oh I thought he did get a ring there. Yeah, so he 1030 01:03:57,039 --> 01:04:00,639 got that ring. He just didn't play. I want to make it. 1031 01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:09,199 Oh my god, I know this the guy that was Oh man, I'm 1032 01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:13,000 gonna have to I'm gonna have to cry uncle on this. I think that's 1033 01:04:13,199 --> 01:04:15,480 this is gonna bug me once I hear it. I know it. So 1034 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:20,360 if it helps it all. He did play in that postseason in twenty eleven 1035 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,559 for Dallas. I think the clue said Dallas, so that's not giving it 1036 01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,920 away. He only played like a like twenty six minutes in the finals, 1037 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:34,079 though, what was a first what was a so going back, he drafted 1038 01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:38,719 outside the lottery in ninety six. It didn't come over till ninety eight. 1039 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:44,960 Shot it badly initially, but then was just like one of the best three 1040 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:50,639 point shooters like of that era. A bunch of no good that's that's a 1041 01:04:50,679 --> 01:04:56,559 good guess though, I can give you. If I give you the team 1042 01:04:56,679 --> 01:05:00,960 that he was like great for, you'll just get it. I think the 1043 01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:04,960 best the clue that might get you there is like starting in like the team 1044 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:09,719 was good in the very early two thousands, and then in five went into 1045 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:15,159 a period of like one of the longest playoff droughts in professional sports history. 1046 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,840 So the Kings, But I still I still got who's the when you think 1047 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:26,239 of the Kings and you think of like Pakovich, Oh my god, there 1048 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,079 you go, Mike, try to get you with uh. He wasn't a 1049 01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:33,440 part of the title team for his last clue. Uh. Okay, this 1050 01:05:33,559 --> 01:05:36,599 one's also from Mike. Clude number. There's only five clues on this, 1051 01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:41,840 Oh clue one. I was a highly recruited wing out of the state of 1052 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:50,599 Wisconsin in the mid twenty tens. Wisconsinant highly recruited wing. Okay, clue 1053 01:05:50,599 --> 01:05:54,280 too, I attended Oh go ahead, No, I was just I was 1054 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,159 like, I don't know high school recruits, but go ahead. Clue two. 1055 01:05:57,199 --> 01:05:59,760 I attended UCLA for one year, where I moved from playing the three 1056 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:08,920 to be more of a combo forward. Twenty ten's UCLA from Wisconsin combo forward. 1057 01:06:12,039 --> 01:06:17,000 M Okay, I don't got it. Clue three. I was drafted 1058 01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:23,079 by the Warriors after one year in college. Oh, okay, a Warrior 1059 01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:28,280 drafted out of UCLA. Oh, this is Kevon Looney. Correct the last 1060 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:30,360 two clues where I became a small ball center for Golden State after my first 1061 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,920 season. At the time of the decision, I was the six string center, 1062 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,440 and then it Clue five, it worked out. Okay. I've played 1063 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:42,559 my whole career with the Dubs and won three titles. Okay. Looney is 1064 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:44,800 one of those guys where they always talk about how, oh, he was 1065 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,159 a guard until he grew or whatever. That's why he's such a good passer 1066 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,440 as a Warrior's facilitator. Okay, I'm gonna go. Let's see. I 1067 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,119 think I got a rubikscal one here, and then I got a couple more 1068 01:06:56,159 --> 01:07:00,159 from from Mike. But let's see, I have a Rubikscal one, and 1069 01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:02,639 then there's two from b rich that we should get to for you. Okay, 1070 01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:05,320 do you want to save him for the next one? You want to 1071 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:11,239 just all right, yeah, this is rubik scal one. Let's see. 1072 01:07:11,599 --> 01:07:15,079 I want to make sure I don't step on this by Okay, this the 1073 01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:19,280 category because rubik Scout gives you a gives you a guess the player colon, 1074 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,559 and then like a little hints as a category or whatever. So I guess 1075 01:07:24,599 --> 01:07:30,519 the player colin Enforcer Number one, E Donnis Haslam is getting his number forty 1076 01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:33,800 retired by the Heat on January nineteenth. I'm the only other number forty to 1077 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:39,320 be retired by an NBA team. That's I very much doubt that's going to 1078 01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:42,559 help you. But ignore the ABA era Nuggets big man Byron Beck, who 1079 01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:45,840 played mostly in the ABA. Again immaculately researched guess a player clues here. 1080 01:07:46,639 --> 01:07:49,920 Number two, I was a four time All Star, and I also have 1081 01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:55,800 a rebounding title. I had seven consecutive seasons averaging more than ten rebounds per 1082 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,280 game. You don't have an area yet, so that's gonna be tricky. 1083 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:00,679 I don't know if I think you'll get an error here at some point. 1084 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,360 All right, Number three, like you Donnis. My reputation was that of 1085 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:09,719 an enforcer, though compared to me, Eudonis comes across as a saint. 1086 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,199 Yeah, all right, I wanna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna read you 1087 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,279 this clue. I'm gonna so it's kind of funny. Number four. My 1088 01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:24,760 father was an executive at Owen's Illinois Incorporated, and when he rose to the 1089 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,680 position of company president, I joked that I was the only player in the 1090 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,600 NBA to make less money than my father. Uh Earl Lambier, Holy shit? 1091 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,960 Yeah, how'd you? How did that clue get it for you? 1092 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:42,279 Just because that felt like the whitest person clue uh possible? So I was 1093 01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:47,199 like white enforcer who is the Tyler Hansborough of yesteryear? And Bill Lambier really 1094 01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:53,279 good? Oh man, I almost didn't read that clue. Okay, let's 1095 01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:56,279 see. Yeah. The next one was I have five rings, two as 1096 01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,760 a player and three as a coach. This is the little tricky and Ruby 1097 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,000 Sky does admit that that clue is tricky because those three as a coach are 1098 01:09:02,199 --> 01:09:05,840 w NBA title rings because he was the coach. Uh. I would have 1099 01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:11,680 gotten like in a heartbeat if that it was w NBA like clarified. All 1100 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:15,239 right, uh yeah, good job you got that has got to be the 1101 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:19,880 guess that you got. Jack on the clue of what was it? I 1102 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,199 played at Georgia Tech with Chris Box, Like what the fuck? Man? 1103 01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:27,640 I would tell you, all right, why don't you give me one and 1104 01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,399 I'll pull up one from from micro This one's from Ruby scal There are thirteen 1105 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,439 clues. What now, I'm putting my phone down to attention. It's knock 1106 01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,479 knocked. This is number thirty two that shows you the leg where Ruby Skull 1107 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,479 has been putting it in for us. The roof was never quite the ceiling. 1108 01:09:44,199 --> 01:09:46,520 The roof wait, so it knock knocked. The roof was never quite 1109 01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,039 the ceiling. Rubyscal calls these knock knocks like the guess of players to me, 1110 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,239 okay, and this one like what the colon is? The roof was 1111 01:09:55,279 --> 01:09:59,359 never quite the ceiling. Clue number one, I mean we're trying to unpack 1112 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:01,079 that already, is like, what's this gonna be? All right? Go 1113 01:10:01,119 --> 01:10:04,239 ahead, sorry, Clue number one. I am the ultimate floor razor, 1114 01:10:04,319 --> 01:10:10,840 but the ceiling was always just a little bit out of reach. Okay. 1115 01:10:12,079 --> 01:10:18,720 Clue two. The cavaliers before me zero playoffs in sixth season seasons The Cavaliers 1116 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,520 with me this is CLU three playoffs in year one, lost in the first 1117 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:30,279 round. CLU four. The Warriors before me zero playoffs in ten years Clue 1118 01:10:30,359 --> 01:10:33,279 five The Warriors with me the playoffs in year one, lost to the La 1119 01:10:33,399 --> 01:10:41,119 Lakers in the conference semis CLU six Team X before me two consecutive forty one 1120 01:10:41,159 --> 01:10:45,840 and forty one seasons, Clue seven Team X with me seven seasons, seven 1121 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:51,520 playoff appearances, second most number of wins in the NBA behind Team Y in 1122 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:57,840 that period. Four division titles, two time best record in the Western Conference, 1123 01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:02,279 two conference finals appearances, one NBA Finals appearance, zero wings, zero 1124 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,439 rings. We lost the team? Why in six games? So close? 1125 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:13,079 Yet so far? Hold on, I have to pack you. So this 1126 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,079 Cavaliers don't win? Then are good? Warriors don't win? Then make the 1127 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:25,159 conference finals against the Lakers? Was that with the Lakers? Conference semis with 1128 01:11:25,319 --> 01:11:30,520 the Lakers? So that could just be last year. But it can't be 1129 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,199 right because no, because why would this wouldn't be Steve Kerr? No, 1130 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:40,000 Uh, what the hell? Uh? And then what that was a long 1131 01:11:40,079 --> 01:11:43,880 clue? You just read like eight playoff trips and A finals and something with 1132 01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:47,880 you seven seasons, seven consecutive playoff appearances, the second most number of wins 1133 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:55,439 in the NBA behind Team Why in that period, four division titles twice, 1134 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,439 they had the best record in the Western Conference. Two conference finals appearances, 1135 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:04,920 one an NBA Finals appearance, zero ring. I'm like swimming and I think 1136 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:11,399 this the next set might get get it for you, okay. Clue eight 1137 01:12:12,279 --> 01:12:16,359 The Bucks before me zero playoff appearances in seven years. Clue nine The Bucks 1138 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,920 with me the playoffs four times in five years, plus the conference finals appearance. 1139 01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:25,920 Uh uh wait, No, I don't know. The Cavs has thrown 1140 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,600 me. I don't know when. I don't know when we are. That's 1141 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,720 that's what's killing me. God, I don't I don't think I have it, 1142 01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:39,800 Okay. Clue ten, Team Z tore me one playoff appearance in nine 1143 01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:45,840 years. Team Z with me nine seasons, nine playoff appearances, three division 1144 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,439 titles, including the team's first division title in eighteen years, one conference finals, 1145 01:12:50,039 --> 01:12:56,479 and they lost the eventual champs in three It says three seasons, but 1146 01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:00,319 I don't really know what that would be. We'd be We've covered like thirty 1147 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:05,000 years, so think longevity. Well, it can't be a player that like, 1148 01:13:05,119 --> 01:13:08,199 can it? Right? Is this okay? It's a coach? Does 1149 01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:11,760 that help you? Okay? Yeah it does. So the Warriors thing, 1150 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,039 I don't know where the Cleveland thing, but you got Milwaukee and you got 1151 01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:18,600 Golden State. I mean, is it just we've done Don Nelson before though? 1152 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:23,159 Right? It's not Don Nelson, is it? No? So we 1153 01:13:23,239 --> 01:13:30,520 went Calves, we went Warriors, and then another West team? Is it 1154 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,880 Rick Adelman? It is not Rick Adaman. Calman didn't coach the Cavs. 1155 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,319 That's a bad guess. I can't give you team extra team Z because I 1156 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:42,680 just feel like you'll know it well, just going Calves, Warriors and then 1157 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,119 some other really good Western conference team? You said, was that? Was 1158 01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:49,399 that eight seasons or whatever of seasons seven second with a number of wins in 1159 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,960 the NBA during that time behind I'll tell you who team why is? Okay? 1160 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,800 Maybe you'll get the time period. The best The team with the most 1161 01:13:56,880 --> 01:14:01,880 record, most wins during those seven seasons were the Chicago Bulls. And it's 1162 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:08,319 a coach, you're telling me, yeah, haves Warriors, Bulls. I 1163 01:14:08,359 --> 01:14:11,600 feel like I should just get it because I don't know who's coached all those 1164 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:16,279 teams. I can give you the next two clues. Okay, Clue twelve 1165 01:14:16,319 --> 01:14:21,439 Sacramento was a disappointment, my only sub five hundred season excluding partial seasons since 1166 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:27,640 my rookie year. George Carl, correct, do you want to know what 1167 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,319 clue thirteen was? Sure? I think it's high time to tell Grant that 1168 01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:35,039 this was a guess a coach, not guess a player, don't you Well, 1169 01:14:35,079 --> 01:14:39,439 it's like when you cover four decades of we're the worth of wins. 1170 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,159 I should have picked up on it. I don't think I knew the Cleveland 1171 01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:44,560 I don't know if I could have told you George Carl coached the Cavs. 1172 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,880 So what it was? So the team X and Z. Team X was 1173 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,760 the Sonics, TMZ was the Nuggets, and so it's just like I would 1174 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,359 have done it. Yeah, okay, Yeah, the Cavs thing is a 1175 01:14:54,399 --> 01:14:57,800 great clue because that totally threw me off. I couldn't think of who went 1176 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,880 from Cleveland to Golden State to anywhere. Okay, man, that's a tough 1177 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,439 one, all right, I got a I got one from Mike here, 1178 01:15:06,119 --> 01:15:10,119 all right. Ooh, I don't know if you're gonna get that one. 1179 01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:15,600 Thanks for the vote of confidence. I think it's just outside. I'll try 1180 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,000 you want to try it? This can? I give you the first clue 1181 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,319 and then you decide if you want to do this one? All right? 1182 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:26,640 I was drafted in nineteen ninety out of UTEP. Yeah, let's do it. 1183 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:30,600 Why not? Okay? Number two. I didn't make my NBA debut 1184 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:36,199 until nineteen ninety three with the Pacers, having played three years overseas. Number 1185 01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:42,880 three, Uh no, I think no, you're I don't first all we 1186 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:44,920 went to Michigan. Please, I don't want to give you any more. 1187 01:15:45,399 --> 01:15:47,079 I don't want to comment on that anymore to tell you whether you're in the 1188 01:15:47,159 --> 01:15:51,840 right era or not. Number three. I played with the Pacers for six 1189 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:56,880 years. However, after losing two straight Eastern Conference finals, I requested a 1190 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,199 trade for more playing time elsewhere. Antonio Davis boom three clues. Good job. 1191 01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:05,359 I wonder if I'm just reading head. I was traded in Toronto for 1192 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:10,199 Jonathan Bender. Do you remember Jonathan Bender? Oh? I remember jan Bender. 1193 01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:15,560 I wonder if he's gonna mention Trace Jackson Davis. Oh no, that's 1194 01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,880 Dale Davis. I got the Davis is mixed up. Okay, man, 1195 01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:21,680 it's kind of a hot one for you that you get it in three running 1196 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:28,279 through my veins. COVID makes your brain work good. All right? From 1197 01:16:28,359 --> 01:16:30,520 be Rich? All right, I'll be one from be Rich and if you 1198 01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:31,680 have another one, and then we'll do one from be Rich and wrap it 1199 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,000 up. Okay, uh okay. Clue one. I was drafted in the 1200 01:16:38,039 --> 01:16:42,000 lottery in the early two thousands after attending high school in both Wisconsin and Maine. 1201 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,399 Then we did this one. We did this one because I remember, 1202 01:16:47,039 --> 01:16:49,119 I thought I too, from be Rich. We did do this one. 1203 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,199 I remember Maine because I joked Cooper Flag and then it wasn't Cooper Flag. 1204 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,119 But now I can't remember who the player was. Should we just do it 1205 01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:00,920 again? And does it bring it back? In immaculate grid All Star? 1206 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,800 I played for nine teams during my fourteen year career. Yep, still don't 1207 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:10,079 remember, even though I think I got this one, averaging fourteen points five 1208 01:17:10,119 --> 01:17:12,159 boards for my career. Is a two time All Star in the late two 1209 01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:15,600 thousands in both my All Star season. Oh yeah, nickname tough Juice. 1210 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,439 This is Croon Butler. See I was gonna take me forever to get it 1211 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:24,119 again. Oh okay, so I we did this last week. I couldn't 1212 01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:27,600 remember who was we did guess a player last I'm sorry. The COVID really 1213 01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,239 has fun with my brain. I'm did it at some point because I remember 1214 01:17:30,319 --> 01:17:33,399 getting because you said, uh, I think of Straws when I think of 1215 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:38,359 him because he choose on straw Right, You're right, Okay, so clue 1216 01:17:38,399 --> 01:17:40,840 one. I was a lottery pick in the mid two thousands, but I 1217 01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:45,039 was I was never a teammate of Greg Buckner's. Oh damn it. My 1218 01:17:45,119 --> 01:17:47,680 whole bit, my whole bit that I thought of before we recorded today was 1219 01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,520 right when you said the first clue of the first one, I was gonna 1220 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,760 yell Greg Buckner, and I forgot. I'll do it another time. Damn 1221 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,119 it. I forgot. Okay, lottery pick in the mid two thousands, 1222 01:17:58,199 --> 01:18:01,359 did not play with Greg Buckner. Now I've really it's zeroed in now clue 1223 01:18:01,399 --> 01:18:03,399 too. At twenty years old, in thirty five games, I had a 1224 01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:08,600 plus twenty six net rating for one hundred possessions per Basketball Reference. Okay, 1225 01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:12,399 that I got nothing from that one. Two years later, I won the 1226 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,199 first of back to back NBA titles and started every regular season game I was 1227 01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:21,319 healthy for during those two seasons. Ooh, mid two thousands started, You're 1228 01:18:21,399 --> 01:18:25,279 gonna get it on the next clue. Okay, we'll just give me the 1229 01:18:25,359 --> 01:18:28,359 next one. Then a few years after that, in twenty twelve, I 1230 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,039 was a key player in a four team trade including Josh McRoberts, Al Harrington, 1231 01:18:31,239 --> 01:18:36,600 Jason Richardson, Chris Duhan, Andre Gadala, and Dwight Howard. Oh 1232 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,359 uh, Andrew Bynam correct. Two years later, I was out of the 1233 01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:44,199 league at the age of twenty six, as the modern NBA made me extinct. 1234 01:18:45,359 --> 01:18:46,560 After that one, I was gonna just mention bowling and see if you 1235 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,000 would that that was such a weird Do you remember there was like buying them 1236 01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:55,319 watch for a while because he kept changing his hair and everybody's like, what's 1237 01:18:55,359 --> 01:18:59,840 wrong with the fanfare of him being in Philly. Yeah, that was a 1238 01:19:00,079 --> 01:19:01,920 weird moment. I don't I don't know why that stands out to me so 1239 01:19:02,079 --> 01:19:05,159 much, of like because he sort of like was kind of done playing basketball, 1240 01:19:05,279 --> 01:19:09,479 right, He just like decided he was over it. Yeah, Okay, 1241 01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:14,600 Andrew behind him tried to kill JJ Burrew one time. All right. 1242 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:20,880 I got a couple more from Mike Okay, I like this one clue. 1243 01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:26,000 Number one. I was a point guard drafted out of Wake Forest. There 1244 01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:28,880 have been a few of those. Uh, do you want to just take 1245 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,680 a shot out of way for us Chris Paul that that is the best guess 1246 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,760 that is not the correct guests Number two. Oh no, he went to 1247 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:42,199 duke my number two. My first two seasons in the league, I was 1248 01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:47,560 a bit player for the Hawks, starting ten combined games. Number three. 1249 01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:51,479 My third year, I started to break out, becoming a regular starter and 1250 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:57,960 averaging one point six steals. You're gonna need a year here. Number four. 1251 01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:00,880 In twenty fourteen, I was voted an All Star, but wasn't the 1252 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,479 most shocking selection, even on my own team. There were four of us 1253 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,680 Jeff Tigue is correct, Kyle Korra or was that the other most shocking one? 1254 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,800 I guess I think probably because it was, well, who was it 1255 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,199 that didn't get Was it Damari Carroll was not an All Star? Or was 1256 01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:18,640 it who was the Yeah? Was that it was? Because it was Corver, 1257 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,920 Horford, Millsap and Tigue? Right, yeah, right? And then 1258 01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:26,119 what do they win? Like sixty some sixty something? Then they just got 1259 01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:30,880 to truck they got just just that was you know what that And there began 1260 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:35,680 the narrative of Mike Budenholzer awesome system coach during the regular season, not so 1261 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:41,600 hot in the playoffs after that. Uh, you want to take us out 1262 01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,520 of here for this? Sure, I'll save this. I got another one 1263 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:47,199 from Mike, but I'm gonna save it because I really liked this player and 1264 01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:50,800 I don't want to waste it. Thank you for listening, for watching, 1265 01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:56,840 for following. Remember too, wherever you listen to your podcasts, or even 1266 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,159 if you're just watching this on YouTube, subscribe, thumbs up, rate review, 1267 01:21:01,239 --> 01:21:06,319 just give positive comments, just engage with wherever you're listening to. Almost 1268 01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:12,319 back, damn it, I love us back. Thanks for all the guests 1269 01:21:12,319 --> 01:21:15,000 of players. These are like, I don't know, there's such a lightlift 1270 01:21:15,079 --> 01:21:16,319 for us, but they're kind of my favorite part of the whole deal. 1271 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:21,119 Hopefully everybody. They're so fun. I just hope that people outside Discord enjoy 1272 01:21:21,159 --> 01:21:24,720 them as much as we and the people in Discord. Yeah, that's the 1273 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,840 thing I've wondered, because there's I can't I'm not clipping just the guests of 1274 01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,319 players, so there's no way of knowing but and we get some times like 1275 01:21:31,399 --> 01:21:34,239 YouTube commenters, but I think a lot of the YouTube commenters are also on 1276 01:21:34,319 --> 01:21:39,560 our discord, So it's just like, you know what, engagements engagement, 1277 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,319 But I appreciate engagement. I just hope that everyone loves guests a players as 1278 01:21:43,359 --> 01:21:45,880 much as we love doing it. I hope. So it's a very lovable 1279 01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,279 bit. I think. What else I said, rate reviews, subscribe, 1280 01:21:49,319 --> 01:21:55,239 follow if you discord gets Yeah, get on discord if you want to get 1281 01:21:55,279 --> 01:21:58,239 some guests of players in because pretty soon that's all we're going to be doing, 1282 01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:00,560 I think, because it's so much easier for us. Uh and fun. 1283 01:22:01,079 --> 01:22:04,479 Uh. The link is in the YouTube and podcast description for that, 1284 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,840 as is the link for where you can get some merch Danna supporting a sweatshirt. 1285 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:14,479 As always, I got the mug right here and uh again, if 1286 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,039 you're not watching, that made no sense for you, I think I think 1287 01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:19,720 that's gonna cover it. Thanks again. As always, we closed with the 1288 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,800 shout out to the worm only Franklin Lukeenan in an apology to Jerry down