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This is a downbeat on ninety seven
to one, the freak. In thirty

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minutes, we try out the Arizona
as Storm. We get you ready for

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the Arizona Diamondbacks, Rangers World Series, Get Cup, World Series Nuggets too.

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That's some of the just some of
the exciting pregame things. And then

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we'll jump in and you can call
in it two and four or eight one

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seven seven eight seven one nine seven
to one to be a member of the

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bullpen for Danny and Mike. Sometimes
the bullpen is not required in a baseball

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game, yes, so they could
just sit there and then not pitch and

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then win a World Series. The
way to work is, I have seven

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games categories. Seven categories is the
best of seven series. So game one

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of the World Series or the Arizona
as Storm, for instance, I'll just

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tell you what it is that's in
reference to the World Series of Major League

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Baseball that the Rangers are playing in
effing tomorrow. Yeah, so Game one

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is Arizona celebrities. So which Danny
or Mike before the game starts could go

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I don't feel like I have my
best stuff today and they would turn over

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that game to the bullpen. Oh
and then we're out of the game,

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and then you're out of the game, but you have a remember of the

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bullpen fighting for you and the winner
will get Chris Tucker tickets. Just to

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bring it on home. Should really
make it full circle because Chris Tucker and

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the World Series or two things I
think about together. How fun is this

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gonna be. It's gonna be like
the I'm gonna have like the Christian hobbyer.

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Start. Just hand it over to
the bullpen immediately. Yeah, you

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can hand over every game, yeah
instantly. You can only hand over two

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games each. Oh, I gotta
get innings out of my starters. But

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that's coming up at eight Ding Goods
Morning News eight thirty nine o'clock Picks with

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Glenn's where you can also participate in
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also tracking the main shooting. We'll
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and other stuff around the metroplexus.
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cold. It's like sixty nine outside, but it's a wet one, so

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be safe on your way to work
during Picks with glenns a little tease we

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will learn today what's inside Malcolm's nose
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kind of yeah, yeah, it's
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Bro, it's my favorite minute of
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I remember time to see what he's
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second place and our mystery guests Celebrity
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first place. We have a guest
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butt today, So after the scuttle
Butt intro, will welcome on our guests,

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who I'll explains too. Joining us
now in the free cat line.

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It's my new friend Mark from Snakes
Alive OKAC, the man who captures the

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Oklahoma City python that we've been talking
about for weeks. Here roh he here

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h here here row here here row
Good morning, Mark, how you doing

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here morning? It's Mike. You're
a hero. Mike. Oh, thank

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you, sir. We didn't actually
capture the animal. One of the homeowners

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went out to check their garbage at
like one o'clock in the morning and found

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the thing at their trash can Oh
damn it. Do you have their phone

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number? Then? I do not. Many they have not even identified themselves.

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Wh we run a big rescue here
nicolea city of exotic animals, and

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they we've been out there a couple
of times. We helped the guys that

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had the dogs train the dogs to
try to find it. We brought one

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of our snakes up there and let
them put it underneath the trailer and let

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the dogs try to find it.
And evidently that didn't work. Okay,

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wait, can you can you amplify
that a little bit? You took one

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of your own rescue snakes and put
it under the trailer to tests to see

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if the dogs could find it.
Yeah. We put it in a container

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that had a bunch of holes in
it, fuck, a screen container so

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the dog could smell it. They
put it under trader put the skirting back

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on it, and took the dogs
a couple of balks away and let them

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start searching for it. And the
dogs actually came right to the trainer and

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sit down next to where the snake
was. Wow, okay, so that

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kind of worked. That's cool.
So yeah, they found the I mean

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it was pretty cool to watch.
I hadn't I had no confidence in the

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dogs at all, but they actually
did find it. Yeah, Mike,

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I gotta ask. There's been some
shoddy reporting about this entire story over the

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last three weeks. I mean,
it's been very strange conspiracies of if people

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at the trailer park were hushed by
management. So are we to believe?

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And we were led to believe that
this snake this we were told that it

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was an albino golden python had grown
up to thirteen feet in size because it

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had been eating a lot of stray
cats. I am not certain. I

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mean, there are many I've touched
to some detectives around this case, some

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distinguished detectives, including the great DFW
detective Detective Dick Shale, who's like,

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he's possible that the python could have
eaten an old woman or something. So

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there's a lot of crazy things that
have been going around with this story.

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Is it true that the python that
was believed to be thirteen feet was not

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that big? Right? He is
actually about eight feet long. I have

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him at our rescue right now.
He's about eight feet little, maybe eight

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and a half feet long. He's
not a fourteen foot cat eater. He

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hasn't eaten anything probably in the last
two months at least. Oh wow,

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Okay, so it's safe to say
that this, the python that you have

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in captivity, was not capable of
eating a human woman. No, okay,

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Now most of them aren't. The
stories you see on the internet and

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stuff, Most of those are fakes. There's been a few instances in in

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like Indonesia with the big, big
big reticks eating and human but it's always

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somebody a very very small stature.
They have trouble with our shoulders. If

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we didn't have shoulders, it'd be
no problem at all. Wow, we

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do. The big snakes can eat
one hundred and hundred and fifty pounds pig

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without any problem at all. Wow. Because they don't have shoulders. They're

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shaped like a lauze. They go
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old ladies are shaped like a lozenge. Yep. If not, if it's

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one of those old ladies where her
shoulders are all collapsed, yeah, then

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we're in a different ballpark. But
when you captured the snake, you didn't

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see the outline of an old lady
holding a TV guide or anything and had

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a way that was a mistake.
He was liking us. Yeah, we

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call him back, him him I
then he calls back so excited. He

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just clicked the wrong buttoner his face
hit the button, made a snake reached

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his head up there and tapped the
off button. Maybe it was the TV

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guide that made him hang up.
He didn't even barely get to that joke.

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He couldn't have gotten that bad and
hung up that quickly. We did

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my reissued TV guide joke also called
him Mark. Maybe the emergency snake line

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rang and he had to take that
one. That's true. Maybe there's another

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one that's pretty What what if the
snake just latched onto Mark's head and phone

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the second he was providing this information. Hello, Mike, Sorry we lost

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connection with you there. How you
doing no problem? It's all good,

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No, you're good. We appreciate
you taking the time. Again. For

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those of you are just now joining, this is Mike from Snakes Alive OKC,

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which is a nonprofit. So thank
you for what you guys do up

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in Oklahoma City. And Mike uh
knows a little bit about the Oklahoma City

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python that we've been talking about for
three weeks on the show. The reporting

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has just been highly disappointing. The
amount of fake news that we've detected has

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just been gross, to be honest. Yeah, so what the snake was

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hiding underneath the trailer. Was it
true there was an elementary school near that

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trailer park? And would that snake
have been at road, he wouldn't have

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been. Probably not an issue at
all for elementary school. He's eight feet

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long. The deal with those pythons, Now, if he had been fourteen

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feet that changes everything because at about
ten feet they start to get a lot

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more girth and they grow slower,
and so he is probably I would guess

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two maybe three years old. A
fourteen foot snake would be five or six

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years old, and the girth sort
of six spin he's not. He's about

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as big round as say, your
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would be bigger round than your thigh. So when there's quite a bit of

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difference in just that four feet of
snake, Thanks Mike. So when you

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were called by, you said it
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trash and discovered the snake, and
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the snake. Is that is that
safe to say? The resident actually took

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a laundry basket and put it over
the top of the snake and taped it

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all up and wired it together and
everything so the snake couldn't get out of

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laundry basket. Okay, wow,
they didn't want anything to do with it.

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And from that point, the resident
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between that and you obtaining the snake
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guess the maintenance people from the Trader
park went down and got it early that

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morning and then they called me.
They put it into a dog kennel,

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one of the big plastic dog kennels, and then we went and picked it

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up with an enclosure and brought it
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it, and and he's dehydrated.
He's got a severe respiratory infection, so

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he'll go into rehab. It'll take
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the respiratory infection and get him well, and then we'll adopt you back out.

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And what is that in you say
you're going to adopt him back out?

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Would that be to an amateur herpetologist
that you know collects snakes or how

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does that go? We go to
a zoo normally, normally on the reticular

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improtence of the Burmese pythons, we
have a pretty intensive adoption process, and

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we have to have someone who has
at least two years experience with large large

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snakesh it has to be experienced that
we can talk to the people. It's

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I've been doing this since about eighty
six, so I know most people in

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the hobby, and we have to
be able to verify that they actually have

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experience with something that big at eight
foot most people, I mean, if

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you look at the guy, you're
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big. But last fall, there
was actually a girl during it may been

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earlier than that, but during COVID
there was a girl up north, I

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believe in Indiana or Illinois who got
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she was. It was in the
middle of the night. They had a

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somebody had a place like a like
a central location in a rent house or

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something where they kept all these animals
at for people that couldn't keep them in

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there. Say she lived in an
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reptiles. Yeah, so he basically
ran out of space for them to keep

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all the reptiles there. So there
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she went up there in the middle
of the night to feed her snake,

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and something happened. Normally, that's
ninety five percent of the time when people

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get bitten or anything, it's it's
during feeding. It's it's stupid feeding errors.

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So she did something and the snake
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her neck. And it only takes
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one of those guys to make you
pass out, not that long. And

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once you pass out, the snake
kept constricting around her neck, and they

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will constrict until they don't feel a
pulse anymore. Oh, geniuses. And

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it actually it actually killed the girl. And that's the that's the first death

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I've seen in several several years from
a big pythot and he wasn't even that

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big. This is Mike from Snakes
Alive in Oklahoma City. Thank you for

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I back to the adoption policy.
Is there any chance you might waive that

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experience if the potential adopter was a
local radio personality in DFW who's one second

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place before? Because if so,
could you put Kevin Turner at the top

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of the list as a potential owner
of the snake? He's been obsessed with

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this story and can you imagine Kevin, the joy of actually calling out this

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snake your friend incredible. I'm sure
we could wish your training to take care

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of it. They're not not real
hard to take care of. You just

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have to be kind of cautious when
they get big. Yeah. So I

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have two questions, and then if
there's anything else, we'll try to be

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quick with you here, Mike.
But one thing, is there anything to

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the rumor that there is another snake
cat eating snake still out there? Or

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was this the one? I would
doubt in the same area. I don't

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believe there is. I think they
had the one that was lose. This

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one if if you see the pictures
of him and the original sure that was

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on social media, they're the same
animal. It's it's hard to miss.

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When they first released that picture,
you could tell it was it was not

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like a normal ano burmese. The
they have a pattern down the side that

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you can see, and this was
more of a solid yellow color. And

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that's the actual python themself is called
an albino golden child, and a golden

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child is a morph of snake that
has no pattern and very little color,

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so it makes them almost solid yellow
all the way down. Do we believe

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this was just a person who owned
it and it just didn't take care of

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it or wet it out. In
your estimation, what's the origin story of

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the snake? Normally with all the
rescues, we see one of two things.

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Either somebody can't take care of it
and they panic and they just let

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it go, thinking, you know, hey, this thing, I'll be

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able to make it in the wild. Or they're really really good at escaping

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enclosures. People underestimate can be when
it comes to getting out of a cage.

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They're not real intelligent as far as
like a dog or a cat,

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you know, fetching your shoes or
anything. But they're really really good at

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getting out of enclosures. Okay,
they have nothing like inmates. They have

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nothing better to do all day long
than trying to figure out how to get

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out. Last question, then we'll
let you go. Mike. Are you

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aware of the story from a couple
of years ago here in town in Grand

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Prairie, which is a city between
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Are you aware of that story from
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about that story. We actually come
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to three times a month to pick
up animals down there as well. Okay,

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there's not a lot of people that
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get calls from all over the Midwest. Amazing. So the Grand Prarie cobra

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was a West African cobra that got
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for some reason our local media outside
of me decided to stop covering it after

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about two weeks of that snake being
on the lamb. Do you think that

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snake died? Do you think someone
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snake. What do you think Hopefully
the cold weather down there killed it.

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It would be horrible if the thing. Doubt That's another thing cobra's because of

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where they're at. Some of the
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wilds. That's kind of what they
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him a hole to go into,
took dinn up, then he could survive

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through the winter. What would because
of concidentally, I mean, it wouldn't

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be on purpose. It would be
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hibernate like our snakes do. But
if he went down in a hole,

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he would stay there until it warmed
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you know the state of Texas and
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you know, I mean, we
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which is a globally known event,
is it possible that the cobra could have

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embedded with a den of rattlesnakes and
become friends. I doubt it. Most

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of the time cobra's in the wild
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king cobra specifically, they eat other
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Well, Mike, thank you so
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And Mike, I'm gonna keep your
contact just because if we ever have

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any more snake issues, we'd like
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and and make you, you know, one of our snake experts here on

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the downbeat. Thanks Mike. All
right, Mike, have you named the

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python yet? I think my wife
the name Bruno. That's cute, all

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right, Bruno? All right,
all right, sefw, let's split a

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plate of Montrelli sticks at Alamo Draft
House. What I was getting a text?

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Thanks Mike, threw that from Gary
Garfield of Snakes plus and he said,

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I've got problems right now with this
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go live to the free catline to
call in Gary Snakes. You guys know

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Gary Garfield of the Texas Snake Institute, owner of Snakes Plus. You've seen

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many of their locations, including the
superstore out in Saginaw. Alright, what's

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in South Lake? Now that's weird
superstars as well. But Gary Garfield,

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the owner of Snakes Plus. Hello, Gary Snakes, how you doing today?

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I'm doing all right, Katy?
How are you? So? What

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what got you so hot under the
collar about that interview with Mike right there

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who found the Oklahoma City python?
Well, you know, at first,

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you know, first of all,
I can't tell for sure with he Mike,

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with you Mark, he seems a
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And I think it's really important that
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you you get them a chance to
be back and released through the normal retail

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channels, right like we love to
get rescue snakes donated to us, and

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then we can, you know,
we can sell them to people not only

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who are responsible, but show that
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one of these snakes. You know, the rehab on on something like this.

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He was talking about antibiotics and rehab
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You know, you got to get
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an obstacle. Course, you got
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there's a lot that you have to
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money. I have a feeling Gary
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plus that partner, Yeah, our
partner or advertising partner. I have a

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feeling that snakes pluses experience requirements or
maybe a little lower than the snake adoption

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requirements for for Mike at at Snakes
Alive, Would that be fair to say

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one hundred? Anybody can come into
our store and pick up one of these

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reticulated pythons. You know, we've
got Golden Child's, We've got all sorts

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of morphs, and you don't have
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an expertise. You just have to
have the you know, the will to

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own a snake like that, the
will, the will and a credit card,

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a valid credit card. Yeah,
we actually prefer cash. So the

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people who say in some you know, with some pets adopt, don't shop.

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You're you're saying as a retail owner, and the w are you the

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biggest I think that that's not a
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Right, absolutely, I would say, shot, don't adopt right like

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you want a snake that you can
get from right at the beginning of this

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life, and then you can take
it and mold it, train it to

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be your pal. Go through any
of our numerous courses. My buddy and

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me like snake courses where you like
learn alongside with your snake, and those

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are available for very reasonable prices.
But those are also those are only cash.

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Yeah yeah. Gary. By the
way, thank you for stepping up

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and putting us in our hotel rooms
in Houston the other night. We appreciate

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your partnership over the years, no
matter how critical I have been of some

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of your practices. I'm not a
snake expert and I'm not a herpetologist like

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yourself, though, but I thank
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hotel rooms in Houston the other night
for Game seven. Yeah, you bet,

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I was kind of I was kind
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we've got a nineteen foot anaconda at
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many superstore and I was hoping we
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expedition with you guys. But you
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drive out to Atago on the way
down south, so I understand time was

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tight, and we thought that would
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you all to have at the baseball
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him to the game if we could
have gotten to a tag in time,

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but we could have hidden it inside
the crotch of my cow uniform. Yeah

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yeah, all right, Gary,
real quick. I know you've been free

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and open with any snake issues at
any of your stores. Everything smooth sailing,

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any snakes on the loose recently.
Anything we need to know about either

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any of the Snake stores or at
Spider Town. There's really nothing that I

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can comment on legally at this point. You know, I've generally got three

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four seven eight lawsuits and litigation at
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we've closed the books on recently.
We also are kind of at a lower

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number of stores right now. We're
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the twenty seven locations that we talk
about get converted to Spirit Halloweens. Yeah,

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in September and October. Yeah,
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our big expansion and get ready for
Christmas. That sounds great, Gary.

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And again, yes, thank you
for sponsoring our hotel in Houston. I

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feel like the accommodations that we stayed
in we're very reflective of the of the

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business model that you've curated through this
number of years. Thank you so much.

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Oh it's my pleasure. All right, Gary, we'll talk to you

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down the road. That's Gary Snakes. You know them as Gary Garfield actually

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been for sure the North Texas Snake
Institute and the owner of all of our

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Snakes Plus and Spidertown stores here in
the Metroplex. And thank you to Parker

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University. I hope you're proud of
what we've done for you. This segment

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coming up next, you can call
two and four or eight one seven seven

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eight seven one nine seven one if
you want to be Danny or Mike's bullpen

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because we're gonna play the Arizona as
Storm next. Get you ready for Rangers

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Diamondbacks World Series on ninety seven one. The Free