What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to Wow Season three, Episode
one, live edition of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Mockler, joined
my Adam Oslin and Will Hupdyke. So you can tell from Will's bottle opening
that was not Foley artistry. That was a real bottle opening. Sound Uh
he used his teeth. We're having a happy hour Friday. Hang, there's
a lot of stuff happening in the Clippers sphere. We're all waiting on the
Paul George news. I mean, weirdly, it feels like there is Russ
isn't coming back, Kawhi is playing for Team USA. We drafted the youngest
player of the Clippers of drafted I think and Cam Christy. But before we
get into it, we all have dips today. I'm assuming if you're watching,
thanks for watching. Adam, Will, how are you guys doing in
this Paul George stalemate that we're all enjoying. I don't know, Will,
how are you? I'm good? I mean, essentially we're gonna have an
answer, I guess by tomorrow, and if not, then there's still two
avenues. Like it's it's not the end of whatever. The Paul George saga
is if we don't have an answer by tomorrow, though it essentially means the
options are Paul George returns as a Clipper or leaves for nothing. So yeah,
I don't know a lot to look forward to, a lot to ponder.
I'm sure. I mean, we're gonna get into it. But I
am weirdly high on this draft pick. Like I was watching some footage.
You know, I didn't. I didn't expect this move. I don't know.
I didn't know a whole lot at all about this draft class. But
after seeing some of the highlights, I'm I'm fairly excited about this pick.
Yeah, I'm I'm pumped on the Kawhi news. I know that you guys
are opinions. I know that you guys have different opinions, but we'll get
into it. Adam, how are how are you? How are you sitting
with everything going on in the Clippers sphere right now? I just am elated
that we're doing episode one of a new season and everybody's so excited. This
is way better in the Bear's new season. This is oh clips and dip
here. Okay, I'm two episodes in and it sucks, so fuch.
I got is that true. I think that it sucks, But I'm still
gonna watch the last two from last season. I'm catching up. I was
doing a binge. I couldn't watch it for so long because I didn't have
my diet in line, and I always felt like if I watched the Bear,
I'm gonna order all this food on door dash, like they're basically marketing
for them the Paul George stuff. We'll know if he's opting in by tomorrow
night. So we're gonna know if he's a free agent on Sunday by tomorrow.
Right the opt the deadline is Saturday night. Unless they can also extend
that deadline. I don't. I don't know exactly how that works. I
don't. They've been extending people's deadlines all day. CP three's, but that's
his guaranteed money. Yeah, that's where most of the smoke is coming from.
Also, is the the Warriors seem to be That's where most of the
smoke is coming from. There was the offer that the Nuggets were mentioned in
an article where the Clippers were asking for mpj Zeke Naji and a bunch of
draft capital, which that would be great, But I can see why the
Nuggets maybe didn't do that. Apparently the draft capital was the big hangout for
them because they have been drafting very well and they're trying to reload, and
yeah, we might lose KCP, but we have Christian Brown now, so
it's okay, and more power to them. They've done well with implementing those
young guys. Yeah, so that trade wasn't gonna happen. What are the
Clippers? You know, we don't know for sure. We're gonna talk the
Kauwi team USA stuff. Hypothetically, the Clippers package that they get from the
Warriors is probably including CP three to a third team, is what the scuttle.
But the Windhorse said it like that kind of thing. The Clippers just
need to get picks and a young guy for Paul George if possible. If
that's the move, is not allowed back as a Clipper, he because a
lot of the fan base doesn't like him anymore? Does Is that why everyone's
assuming he's not going to be back, Because I'm pretty sure it could turn
the other way very quickly. If he became the backup point guard for them
and was given him fifteen minutes a night, everyone be like, yeah,
it's CP three yeah, a little victory laugh action. I guess for him,
I don't think it'd be a victory laugh. I think it would not.
He was not very good last year, right, Warriors fans weren't really
excited about him. He'd be facillity. He'd have to go back to the
New Orleans Hornets to have a victory laugh and they don't exist, the Hornets.
I just you know, people talk about kuminga like there's gonna be a
drop off in trading Paul George. There's people who are sour on Paul George
right now. But we're not getting anyone back who's gonna fill in that talent
level. We're only gonna get guys who try harder, which is kind of
you know what I mean, Like, so they need to get draft capital
and young guys who have a projection to be okay to good. Yeah,
I mean I think, yeah, ideally you're getting at least a rotation piece
and some some draft capital. Mingo, it would be kaminga or something like
in this situation. That's what people have been clamoring. Yeah, wouldn't you
be surprised though, if the Clippers made a move to a like a the
Warriors yeah, tod like a Western conference, I mean, not visional divisional
rival. I honestly wouldn't worry about that. I'd worry about making the best
move possible. If you have to trade with a rival to do that,
you do that, especially because uh, time is now. Time is of
the essence. This thing has been playing out for some time when you account
for the fact that he's been extension eligible from the start of the season.
Yeah, you're in contest. Yeah, I just don't. I don't know
that there's a move out there that like makes the Clippers any more of a
contender, you know, I don't see it, Like, like I've said,
I mean, any trade essentially is going to be a downgrade in talent.
You're just hoping to replenish some assets or get younger. So I guess
maybe that does change the calculus of like do you work with a team in
the same conference, in the same division. I'm curious now though, with
this Pelican's news and still seemingly no word on Ingram, you know, like
who knows, maybe they could come to terms on some sort of contract thing,
but it doesn't currently seem like he's part of those long term plans.
So does that open up, maybe another avenue. I don't know how much
interest Paul George would have in going there, obviously, another team built around
like a superstar who hasn't had a whole lot of health luck. So like,
I don't know if that's something he would even be interested in doing an
opt in trade. But yeah, I mean from those reports on what they
were asking for from the Nuggets, I'm hi, yeah, I'm just wondering
if the Clippers are I mean, I don't want to say shooting themselves on
the foot, because obviously he's a high value player, he demands a high
value return. But I guess with just how long these negotiations have been going
on, it seems it doesn't seem like the most likely scenario that he's going
to return on a discounted deal, Like, if that was gonna happen,
I just feel like they would have locked up a deal by now, like
I the least. So the least likely scenario of all the scenarios to me
is Clippers extend PG at a max. Like I think if that was gonna
happen, obviously that would have already happened. Maybe it's the longest stal May
ever to a very boring conclusion. I just don't think it's in the car.
They don't. I don't think there's any way that that I would I
would basically take that option off the table, like I would be shocked if
that is somehow the resolution to this entire Soka Adam, how would you feel
if PG came back on like three for one the Kahi deal basically still over
the second Apron by like twenty two million, if we get hard and back
on like three for one hundred or something like that, which you're assuming Harden
is definitely going to be back because they gave up a first round pick just
last year for him, yeah, or not going to let him go,
and he played very well in that playoff series. He was the best player.
I'd welcome it, honestly, because it's also still a tradable contract just
to have that option down the line in case they do at some point decide
to try to blow it up and get something back for a guy that let's
say, if he only has two years left on that contract, well,
by the end of it, yeah, he's going to be thirty seven,
thirty eight, I think, yeah, something like that. He's thirty four
now, I think that deal has been reported to be there for a while
if he wanted the three year contract extension. Yeah, and taking less than
the one point fifty that Kawhi Leonard got. That's been there. So the
only way things would change. And going back to what Will said is that
he doesn't have a max offer waiting for him anywhere else and he just goes,
well, I'll take the three year extension and play at home rather than
go somewhere else for the exact same contract and just stay right here with the
Clippers. Would you put it past Paul George to not have anything lined up?
Well, I just want to say I want to say one thing too,
is I mean, even with Paul George's age, I think in a
lot of other free agencies, and especially given like the talent roster of who's
available as a free agent this year, I think there would be a lot
of teams lining up to offer Paul George that max deal if the Clippers weren't
willing to do it. I think the separate and apron is changing a lot
of that calculus for every single one of those teams. And yes, so
you look at the teams that do have the definitive cap space, but they
have future considerations like if okay, see was the outright sign them or something.
You know what happens when they have to renew these guys like that timeline
doesn't add up, and then you have to deal with trading this massive contract
that still has potentially two years left on it for a thirty six year old
guy. So I think that it's you know, like, I think it
would be a little bit different if not for the current salary cap limitations,
the hard cap era. Basically, the Knicks were interested last season, right
and when they got a whift of Paul George wanting the max, they said,
oh, we're going to back up off of this. Now are some
teams just coming to that realization? I know, intel and analytics departments,
and uh, there's a lot of knowledge and a lot of roles in the
NBA today. You would think everybody would know the age of a player before
they trade for him, before they signed him. Unlet's yeah, I would
go there, but he's thirty four, that's his age. I feel like
some teams, even the Philadelphia seventy six ers, I was a little bit
surprised when I heard they were so hot to try for Paul George just because
yeah, a Max at thirty four, that's I get it, because you
have Joe el Embiid. But we just saw a playoff series where it felt
like he was wearing down as it was going along right and had less and
it was a first round series. We're talking about the first round of the
playoffs, and he was already looking old by the end of it. And
maybe some of it was just scheme, and he talked about on the podcast
and how they littered up to try to stop him and they were putting two
guys at the elbows just waiting for him, and he didn't have a lot
of room to operate. And mean, we never seen mudge into it,
because he did look pretty spry at the end of the season after he came
out of you know that swoon were for two months. Paul George wasn't playing
like himself right in that first round series outside of Game one and Game four,
score nineteen points per game, and worse than that, taking less than
fifteen shots per game. I think it was fourteen points. Something that's just
inexcusable in a situation without Kawhi Leonard or at least a fully healthy Kawhi Leonard.
Yeah and yeah, I agree. My thing with Philadelphia has just always
been like, whatso you're hoping you can get one healthy postseason out of Joel
Embead. I mean, that's like square one, but you're trying to assemble
the best possible roster around him. That doesn't mean the ideal roster, right,
just the best possible the best you can actually availably get. And Paul
George checks the lot of those boxes, especially when you consider like it'd be
difficult for them to make a trade they have sony salaries coming off the books.
That's the flip side of having a lot of cap space, right,
You don't have a lot of those tradable contracts that you can package together for
a star. It hasn't historically been a big free agent destination, so like
Paul George, to me, makes a lot of sense for them. Even
if you know that it's maybe two years, you know, like it's it's
optimistically two good years. Case before that contract is I don't want to say
a poison pill, but it's abatross. It's a bad contract, and if
you win the championship in the first two years, you could care less about
it. If you. Yeah, if you win one at the age of
thirty seven and thirty eight, Yeah, if you win one, who cares?
That's uh? I mean, are we talking about Paul George leaving the
Clippers if they had one one? No, he's a legacy player, Yeah
and forever. The max isn't it? But the max isn't a question at
that point? Yeah, the champions, Like, I don't even think we're
having this conversation, Like, we're not having this conversation. If they win
one, he wants the max, Yeah, get the take the max.
Like it doesn't doesn't. I don't think he has a max. Also,
just in this current scenario, you don't think there's one out there, Golden
I don't think for all this stuff, I don't. I don't. I
don't think so. Man, Like he's already limited to a West Coast team
for all the information we have, it's West Coast. So I'm not worried
about the magic giving him a MAX. I mean, if you really want
maybe again, I don't. Lucas Han was just in here saying it doesn't
seem like he has a plan B. Maybe he doesn't, and like he
panics and takes the max from Orlando, But I think he's I think it's
a true If he's really all about the money, that deal makes the most
sense, absolutely, very favorable income tax situation. Yeah, which is fine
if that's what this really all boils down to, is the money. Like
I would take the Max from Orlando, but the West Coast thing, it's
like maybe it's yeah, maybe it's that. Maybe it's Kings. Maybe they're
a dark horse somehow with Picks and Herder and Barnes or something. But I
don't know. I think I don't think he has the MAX. The only
reason I think there's an outside shot Golden State would give him the MAX is
because they do have an ultimate legacy player, an NBA legacy player. He's
not just attached to their franchise, He's attached to NBA history. And you
have to treat those guys differently. And they are an organization that has spent
money and is willing to do so. And one of the reasons we got
the new CBA wasn't just to stop the Clippers, it was Golden State.
They're not opposed I think, to doing things like this to extend the window
for Steph Curry. Yeah, appear to the fan base that well, we
lost Klay Thompson and we really just upgrade with Paul George and we feel pretty
good about our chances for one more ring with this crew of Steph Curry and
Draymond and then it would be Paul George as the new guy. I don't
think that's I don't think it's that crazy that they could offer him the MAX
just because you almost have a responsibility when you have someone like Steph Curry who's
still good to go for it. Say this with Kershaw and the Dodgers,
Like you have a guy like that, it's they don't have an avenue.
I don't think they have an avenue to outright sign him to a MAX.
No, no, no. The only way he can get there would be
a sign and trade. He'd opt in and then like he would have to
where is he gonna walk for a MAX? You can't walk to the Warriors.
No, he cannot walk to that. Yeah. Sorry. When we
were talking Max, I was just making places that he could, like if
he's a agent, that he could go for a MAX. But the Warriors
that I mean, Adam, all those points make a bunch of sense.
Steph is can obviously still contribute and aside from dumbass Stephen A. Smith,
Paul George is really good on catch and shoot threes shot. Yeah, that
was an insane No, it wasn't crazy. It was par for the course,
a casual try to talk like a high level NBA guy and having no
clue. Yeah, like a guy who's been in the league for almost fifteen
years. He still couldn't figure out that Paul Paul George wants to do a
shoe take. What are we even talking about you? Yeah, I mean
it didn't sound like that with the way. I don't know, you might
not have been as happy in that role playing off ball next to James Harden.
Well, he hasn't been happy in the role where he was handling the
ball either, So that's the only two real roles you. Yeah, all
right, we're gonna let's table some of the Paul George talk. It is
scintillating, Yeah, just because as exciting as it is, we're so many
more answers in yeah, four hours let's talk. We're taking a quick audio
break because we are going to put this out on podcasts, So if you
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then we're talking Kawhi Leonard to Team USA. All right, we're back.
Very wow, what a transition. If you're watching this on YouTube, thank
you. Kawhi Leonard is reportedly good to go for playing for Team USA in
the Olympics. There was some talk that maybe Derek White was going to take
his place. Sure, Uh, how are we feeling? Well? You
said you feel good about this? Because this is this is I feel like
major news for Clippers fans. You feel good about Kawhi being on track to
play for Team USA. Look, I mean, Kawhi Leonard being cleared for
basketball activities is always good news. And I I understand I understand the Clippers
or Clippers fans concerns about, you know, like why would you want him
to use his health time? Uh? Not for the Clippers, And to
me, it's more a question of, like, we need to know how
this knee is going to respond, and to me, it's still much better
to figure that out, uh, you know, in the off season before
we come in, uh than it is to figure it out in say,
December. So I think anytime Kawhi Leonard is able to play basketball at a
high level, it's it's reason to be elated. Uh, and I don't
have an issue with this. I you know, that's fair. I don't
think that it's going to be I don't think that it poses like that big
of an issue. You know, he's not going to be playing thirty six
minutes a game or something. It's just you know, it's it's it's an
all star cast. He's he's part, like he's part of being there.
I feel like it's, you know, one other thing that he can kind
of add to his legacy, if that's even something that interests him at this
stage of his career. I'm I'm all for it, to be perfectly honest
with you, Lucas says, congratulates to Will on being correct. Most fans
on Twitter, we had four hundred and thirty votes. They're feeling good about
it. Paul, looks similar to something I saw last night with these numbers
as weird. Wait wait, that's where you're getting statistics from. Buddy.
We lost, guys, we all lost, Yeah, we all we all
lost. Good god? But uh, I mean it helps with the trade
value if he's able to play basketball, because how would I've been thinking about
this more too. It's like, how would you feel if you at the
end of this summer, we saw on alert that Kawhi was cleared for no
basketball and he wasn't even able to participate in Team USA. You'd feel like
shit, it would feel worse than knowing that he can play basketball. Well,
I think, right, I don't know, Like I said, not
to like like bemoan the point too much, but it's like, it's also
very different to you know, be cleared on the team for some like court
want like you know, some court pickup or whatever, uh than playing like,
you know, high level basketball, uh and seeing how the knee responds.
And that's gonna have to happen at some point, and I'd just rather
it happened, you know, more before October. Yeah, before October,
Adam, go ahead, Sorry, we've been no a piggyback off of that.
That's the best point. I understand the frustration from the forty one point
nine percent saying why is he doing we are the forty one point nine percent.
He doesn't get a pick and choose when he's healthy, and if he
is healthy, then he should be out playing basketball now. It is interesting
because he has always said before that he doesn't play five on five during the
summer and I think that goes back to some of the AAU guys. They
all didn't do much. You play so much basketball during the year. It's
just like, yeah, kids have so many miles on him. But I
wondered if part of that for Kawhi was knowing that he has more wear and
tear in his body, ors more injury prone. So he's not going to
go through the most strenuous exercises, which are involved with explosive movements in a
five on five setting during the summer. He's going to save everything for the
regular season. It's TMSA though, and as you mentioned, not only is
his workload going to be lessened because of all the star power with Redeem Team
three or whatever they're calling this one. Even though they won the last time,
you know, things were a little too Yeah, so this time they're
bringing the Avengers back. I think Wemby's playing for Team USA this year.
They got that figured out, So I think that's not true, right,
No, that's absolutely right. Well emb is Embiyah, Yeah, that makes
sense. That makes more sense to Wemby playing for Team USA. He was
born in France and Canada are going to be tough. It's going to be
interesting France. Sure this week from trash Talk. Yeah, the tomb Battalion.
I mean, what do you guys think about you know, like what
what do you Lucas? I just say, because he brought it up in
the chat, Like what would you guys think about the inverse? Like what
would be the perception if it was like the team is holding like he's going
to be sitting out of the Olympics. I mean, I guess the the
team can block it. They just did with Andrew Wiggins. Yeah, like
doing that with Kawi Optically that's a lot worse. Yeah. Absolutely. It
also would make people think if we got an alert that the Clippers had blocked
Kawhi. I think also people would think he's hurt or maybe trained, because
that's why the Warriors blocked Wiggins because they want to move him and they don't
want to get hurt. What makes me feel best and what assuage is my
fears most would be suages. Number One, Noah Eagle's going to be there
with him if anything goes wrong on the call, which Wayne Wade goes a
long way, you look up from the ground and there's no ye, it's
fair. Two. Coach Lou was going to be there and Van Gundy,
right, van Gundy in some role, Steve Kerr, Eric Spolstra. But
coach Lou who jokingly said after Kawhi got heard again this I think was the
exit interview after they lost game six the first round. He said, yeah,
we're going back to load management, uh jokingly, but he's gonna make
sure Kawhi is good. He knows what healthy Kawhi looks like better than anyone.
So if anything's amiss, Coach Lo's gonna handle it. And like like
Will said, probably a good idea to find out now, because yeah,
the swelling issue and how mysterious it was when you talk about swelling for two
months but there's no structural damage. It's just like, well, what's what's
his body trying to tell him that what is happening with that? And you
worry about And this is what I always said when everybody was saying, oh,
he's gonna play game one or he's gonna play game two, and then
he did play game two, what I always said was I'm not so much
worried about how he looks in that first game. I'm worried about the next
day and how he feels afterwards. And then you see what happened. What
transpired was game two he looked much better, and then game three he looked
like a shell of himself and probably shouldn't have played after the first stick.
Dude, that was that bad. That was one of the more like will
you and I rep in the press box for that? That was one of
the more like demoralizing just shifts you could watch it play lost his basketball powers
type stuff. I mean, absolutely brutal, so disheartening we are that also
flies in the face by the way people who say Kawhi Leonard doesn't want to
play, like the dudes hanging on the rim in game three and scared to
drop to land on his knee, Like that's how concerning it was. We
are getting some counterpoints, and because there are some fair there are some fair
counter like it is the wear and tear thing, right, Like if there's
a wear and tear the people who are concerned, some of their concern is
about, you know, running on the knees and how that has to do
with the season. But is this guy a doctor or is this just bros?
But I think it's a but you know what I'm saying, Like if
it is, but I also him your standpoint, I want to get what
he wants to get. He doesn't have a gold medal. I understand him
why well, and I understand the thing of like an overused thing too,
But like if that's still happening, you have options to to see, like
what you know, what the course of treatment is after or during like Olympic
basketball, instead of after the start of the NBA season. I'm just reporting
it, and I don't think anyone's qualified here to go. He has this
many games he can play, and that point is the threshold he crosses and
then yeah, I also don't know if it's like a finite, like if
they knew for sure, it's like, hey, he can play thirty games
on this knee. Obviously I wouldn't want him play in the Olympics. I
want to save those thirty games for the end of the season. But that's
just not the situation. It's it's a very much They're gonna have to see
how it responds, So let's go ahead and see how it responds early.
Yeah, respect couldn't it also be that it swelled up not just from over
use and wear and tear, but from a particular movement that happened if he
is not eating enough salt. They looked into this. Has he been to
K barbecue recently? So I'm gonna think about I've seen him hold like,
you know, four or five Gatorade bottles in one hand and electrolyz are just
salt. Guys. Why isn't there K barbecue at the new Clipper City?
But like he needs kosher salt, just consuming good old fashioned kosher salt.
Maybe some butter. Yeah, So so my question back to uh the nurse
and uh you say, emergency technician, Uh, I see you experience.
What's your suggestion over there? What? What's what's your suggestion for sure?
If if it is, by the way you're looking at it, you only
have so many plays in you or you have a limited amount of time before
it swells up, keep him out till March and hope the Clippers are still
in the playoff picture, Like what is what is the plan here? Only
playing against teams above five hundred in the regular season, what's exactly the plan?
I mean, he has his own medical team and and the Clippers are
gonna let him do whatever he wants for the most part too. Like he
has it's over there Okay, so we just have a doomer. He's not
partially wrong. This is the issue with kawhis It sucks like he is an
injury guy, which sucks. This is a great point. In fact,
Gregory Elwood, the doctors are on the other podcast. Doctor Chef is in
fact on the other podcast. This is a great point. And yeah,
how realistic that is. It's not which So that's that's where we're at.
And Kawhi is gonna do he's any I hope he gets the gold medal.
I don't know, man, it's it's tough to get him the robot from
Aliens. Save him for the playoffs that they might not make without him,
because there's gonna be like five game difference between the three seed and the A
seeds probably, Lucas, do you want to come on the pod? Are
you doing anything right now? Do you want to hop in? We're just
doing a live Do we want to talk about the rust thing stalking hard?
Do we want to talk about Russ not being on the team anymore? Yes?
Okay. Someone asked earlier, who's gonna be the energy guy without Russ?
I don't know, man, who's gonna be the guy that goes eight
for forty one in five straight games in the playoffs, and it's the all
time worst efficiency in a playoff stretch of five games. I'm more concerned about
execution than energy. I feel like Bolls could supply some energy he was doing
in the season. There are maybe some people who didn't hear. For those
of you who missed the Till Mayor article, Till Mayor who was very plugged
in with the Clippers one of the five or six reporters, you should absolutely
take Clippers news from league sources have told Clutch Points that Westbrook is not expected
to be in a Clippers uniform next season, with him reportedly looking at other
options that would include opportunity and playing time. So that's where we're at.
What anyone answered me, what is the difference between opportunity and playing time?
Like, what's the opportunity if not playing time? He's not on the team
anymore. Man, we don't have to do this. We don't got to
worry about this anymore. But like, does he want to be It's still
an opportunity to just be there on the bench with Lebron even if you're not
playing and still out of the G League, Like that's an opportunity. But
yeah, for most people, it is about actually getting out there and playing
minutes. I just can't stress enough how under the radars flown, how ridiculously
bad Russell Westbrook was in that playoff series. I don't think it's flown under
who has been a notoriously bad playoff player and then set the all time record
for worst efficiency over a five game stretch in playoff history. As I put
it, I love Russ, but what are we talking about with the energy?
Energy? Hey, the crowd always popped. The crowd always popped when
Russ was out there, and the layups popped out, like I r off
the room. It's like when someone takes a bunch of adderall to get work
done and then just is cruising down a Wikipedia hole. It's like, man,
I'm glad that you have this laser focus Wikipedia. Hey, they thank
you for the update of Russ stays and brings the energy next season. Great,
but the execution also has to be there at times, especially when you
need him most. In a series like that where they didn't have Kawhi Leonard,
Yeah, he had the he had the moments against the Suns. You
know, we should have had a take foul. They should have called that
a takefoul. And Devin Booker, that was crazy. He was good in
that series legitimately. Yeah, even when he wasn't scoring efficiently, obviously,
who was making plays and doing other things. Yes, but some of that
is cooled, and now we are in a restless world potentially for the Clippers.
I hope all of his fans are okay. I'm sure they're excited for
the opportunity for him to get more playing time. I hope they enjoy Charlotte
or wherever. Now that brings us to the Clippers needing to fill another They
got the backup five they got to figure out. Now we're at the backup
two. Bones Highland obviously the popular choice. He's young, second team All
rookie, has shown some inconsistencies. The first four games of the season were
phenomenal for Bones. The three games directly after that were very bad. And
I love Bones, but the consistency, if he has a good preseason,
I think this is I hope this is bones job to lose. I mean,
right like that, I hope it is right now here because we're not
bringing Intamar to back up. We're not bringing in Chris Paul to back up,
I think a lot with Bones. I think one of the downsides to
him has been, you know, he's still a young player, and that
maturity of just knowing that, regardless of the opportunity, you have to take
advantage of it at all times. Serious cause it sure seemed like there was
a big difference in his play from before James Harden was there the first four
games, and the trade rumors picked up a lot more, and maybe that
affected his play some because even when he got those two games to start,
when James Harden was out and he thrived against Chicago, and I didn't think
it was terrible against the Pelicans, honestly, but afterwards, whenever playing time
he got, he just didn't look the same like he was. He was
fully invested out there on the court, like he was treating it like it
was garbage time. And let me tell you, when you're a young guy
like that, it doesn't matter if it's garbage. I relate in the game.
Bones has to show what he has because he's got a bag, he's
got a lot. He has the skills, and especially with a coach like
Tyler. Tyler is not a coach who wants to watch you kind of dog
it or anything like that, you know what I mean, Like Tyler,
if you're a young guy, Lucas Hahn, how are you, sir?
This guy t Bone on the pod? T Bone? Hey, how's it
going good? We're talking Bones Highland needing to be more consistent. I want
his thoughts on Russ. Yeah, so let's talk about Russ. I know
I've broken up. Where's the parade? Dodgers didn't get one, Russ can't
get one? Yeah, I think I think we could have a Russ is
no longer on the team parade. It's the best thing that happened to the
Clippers since Kawi got here? Do you think Bones can do what it needs
to be done to be the backup too? Backup two? No for Bones,
no backup one, backup one? Sorry sorry sorry y y, Yes,
yes I do. I think Bones can play when James doesn't play.
And I think he's going to be inconsistent because he's twenty two, but he's
incredibly talented. And it's not like Russell Westbrook wasn't inconsistent in that role.
It's not like Reggie Jackson wasn't inconsistent in that role. You know, go
find go yeah, I mean, yeah, go find a backup point guard
in the NBA who both has the upside that Bones has and is not inconsistent.
I mean, it's part of the it's part of the deal, right
And even if you've got a guy like Chris Paul in there who could come
in and play fifteen minutes a night, it's the backup point guard. The
downsides of what he can't do physically, athletically defensively at this age are just
as bad as dealing with Bones is inconsistencies, I think, right, So
thank you, Uh yeah, I would. I'm fully comfortable going into the
season with Bones as point guard too. It sounds like someone has taken the
baton under the skeleton key because he's partly the army. Right here, someone,
this is a ball, This is a baller right here. Lucas huh
right, yes, Lucas noted ball, No, Lucas Hall. Yeah,
there's It's just I don't know, it feels so weird in in Clippers land
right now, right because the backup five and the backup one are also kind
of like we have to wait for Paul George to figure this out if we're
going to be a second Apron team or not a second Apron team. Yeah,
not to not to like go over the point too much, but we
didn't get your thoughts on the on the Paul George situation. Where are you
at right now? What are you thinking? What are you seeing? Max?
Like? What what do I think is going to happen? Yeah?
Just your guess, my guess, what do you want to happen? What
do you want to happen? What's I think? I think that the the
Warriors opt in and trade to the Warriors. You know, there's there's a
lot of smoke there today especially, and and it's it's getting too decision time
for right, And I think Paul if that Paul George has one defining characteristic,
it's not knowing what he wants and Daryl decision making. You guys asked
this question earlier, like do you really think he's sitting here with nothing lined
up? I mean, yeah, I think I would be shocked if he
was sitting here with something lined up, because if there was something lined up,
someone would know what it is. Right, And like, don't I
have no clue? No one that I talked to has any clue what Paul
George is thinking. This is not like you know, Jimmy Butler leaving Philly
to go to the Heat where we knew weeks before, or or Irving and
Durant team up in Brooklyn, where guys actually planned this out right. He
has not planned something out. He may end up having options. Those options
may end up being better than what the Clippers are offering. The Clippers might
end up, you know, left without a date to the prom so to
speak. But Paul George isn't sitting there like Paul George right now. I
guarante you Paul George does not know where he's playing next year. I think
we could all agree that the Clippers would be okay with losing him for nothing
rather than giving him a MAX contract at this point. That's the right decision,
That's what it looks like. I mean, it would be the right
decision, and you'd take us. Do you think, do you think,
like in the absence of the second apron though, that that's different, Like
do you think that at this stale may ultimately ends and then just giving Paul
Georgia Max and figuring it out later if not for the essential hard cap,
Yes, I think if it were not for the new second apron rules.
I think the Clippers would have given him a max succession he was thirty two,
then yeah. Also yes, if he was thirty two and he was
still a loser, probably obviously do not like it. The guys one of
the four hundred and fifty. I mean, what was the top twenty best
players in the world. I wouldn't call him a loser mentally, I think
is what lucas mind reader. We got this question from Andrew that has been
popping up to just kind of for everybody. Do you think Norms staying or
being moved. He's been like a hot name to be added for a young
wing, but there's not a lot of teams that need a score only point
guard who have a dearth of young wing talent to give up for him.
I mean, I think that I think it's exactly that right, Like I
think that they have actively shopped Norm. It's just a matter of like who's
really buying and what's the return because I do see it as like, as
much as I like Norm and I do think that he can get things going,
and I do like him very much as an eighty two game season kind
of player to get something going offensively when the Clippers could really be in a
slog. You know, the skill set, it's not like so unique that
the Clippers can't kind of cover it with the multitude of other guys. Adam
Normhead. I love Norman pal He's one of the more efficient scorers I think
coming off the bench in NBA history. If you look into the numbers,
Uh, he doesn't offer that much else outside of that. I'm not trying
to take away from his value. I'm just saying, if you have an
opportunity to strengthen a weakness by trading Norman Powell, maybe you look into that,
Am I Ron Lucas, No, no, you're not. I mean
I think Norm. Norm's a good player. No, you're not a loser,
Adam, You're a winner. I think I think Norman I take him
to the Western Conference finals. You could shoot. I think you could do
better than a to forty one from the field. Well that's what we talk
about, Russ. I mean, I I think Norm is a good player.
But but it's hard to find a trade for him because he's he's just
limited, right, Like, he can really only play one position as an
off guard. He's not a ball handler. He's not going to create for
others. He's not going to run a pick and roll, and he doesn't
really defend any position at a high level. In the end, he's weirdly
good at off ball. His like best defense was like free safety stuff this
year, but everything else was just not what you need really, you know,
Yeah, all the all the worst defenders are ballhawks, right, They
just go for steals so they can play offense more. But yeah, I
think it's hard finding a trade partner for norm just because you know who's looking.
Teams are looking for versatility. So when you have a guy like a
guy like Terrence, a man just for example, who can sort of do
multiple things on both ends of the court, can play different positions, he
could fit into a lot of different contexts around the league. For Norman Powell.
It feels like in order for a team to want to trade for Norman
Powell, they have to be looking for Norman Powell. And and I think
the I think the Clippers could find someone who's willing to take him up,
getting something back for him, something you know, that to actually like turning
him into John Collins, you know, I think is really uh not.
And Isaac, Yeah, I just know I don't think that that's really something
that's on the table. And you don't think we go with Orlando and Isaac's
injury history and Orlando need more offense and more pop that that could be a
possibility. I just don't. I don't see a real fit there. I
mean, they have they have their backcourt as kind of loaded. I guess
if they're going to go for for Klay Thompson in free agency, but yeah,
I don't know. I think that I think that the Clippers, if
the Clippers end up in a second Apron situation where they have to move Norm,
I think that, you know, they'll be able to find a team
that'll take him. Yeah, but probably not going to get the return that
you would need to get to say it's worth losing Norm especially. Someone mentioned
this uncompents a moment ago. If you lose Paul George, that scoring efficiency
from the shooting guard position is you know, really goes from a luxury to
a necessity. To have Moman Powell in that rotation. Yeah, Terrice Man
would have to increase his scoring. A lot of guys would have to make
up with the slack. Yeah, which is something we haven't talked about.
Just the reality of not having Forge and what that means. Now, It's
not like they haven't had some experience missing stars here and there and having guys
filling the cracks, of course, but doing it, you know, it
took a lot out of Reggie and Marcus Morris. That season in twenty one
to twenty two took like two seasons off of their NBA life. It felt
like, Yeah, everyone got mad that we had to watch that. They're
like, why is Marcus? Why is Marcus Morris and Reggie Jackson leading the
team, And it's like, because everyone's hurt, And this is what you
get when these two guys are leading your team, Like what do you expect
from Reggie Jackson and Marcus Morris? But I think with Kawhi, with James
Harden, those guys can fill in those acts a little easier. Lucas,
how uh, because I like him. I want to get your thoughts on
high level ball talker brandon Ingram. I know it always depends on price,
but would it bring anything reasonable in your mind that you would do a trade
for brandon Ingram with I think I feel the same way kind of about brandon
Ingram as I do with Julius Randall, which is I don't love them as
players just because of the the volume efficiency question and the sort of high level
decision making question. Right, but Ingram is talented. And so if you
you know, to that point about christ still if yeah, still still turning
turning twenty seven this summer, to that point about Price, I think you
have to ask two price questions about Brandon Ingram. The first is, you
know, how do you get him? Because if you get him with Norman
Powell and PJ. Tucker, then it's an amazing deal, right. But
if you're Joseph Rya Ward and you're trading Kawhi Leonard for him, it's a
bad job, right Uh. And then and the other thing is Brandon Ingram's
entering the last season of his contract. And this, I think is where
the current tension is with the Pelicans organization, the same boat that the Clippers
are in with Paul George right now, the same situation Julius Randall will be
in when he's out of contract a year from now, which is, with
the reality of the second Apron, you just can't max like these fringe all
star level guys at the same way that you could before. And if if
Ingram wants that full max contract commitment. I don't mind the years because of
his age. But again, if it's forty million dollars a year, great,
If he wants fifty with escalating raises, then I probably, you know,
I don't think it's even a conversation you can have. It might put
you right back where you are with Paul George, but with a guy who's
not as good, especially defensively, but he is seven years younger. But
you also might have to give them one hundred and fifty million dollars after this
year. And you got to change the team a bit, right, because
we're built around two wings who can theoretically be two way players, and Brandon
Ingram puts a whole wrench in that by by being a one way player.
Is it frustrating anyone else watching the Boston Celtics. Yeah? Yes, on
the show, watching the Boston Celtics do what the Clippers were trying to do
with switchability and versatility and a bunch of wings and winks, stop and pull
it off and just win the championship, well, it almost feels like the
Clippers are shifting away from that philosophy that they had in twenty twenty one that
has been proven to work and will continue to work. But now they're not
in that place necessarily anymore. I mean, so many things have to line
up right like that. You know, they stuck with this core of two
guys that they drafted like even though it seemed like it wouldn't work at multiple
different points. They had the good fortune of like that of that Milwaukee deal
and they were able to get a deal done with Portland. And I think
that even as good as they were this season, it looks a lot different
if they're not able to get Drew Holliday that easily. But even if they
don't win in or if they had lost in seven or something like that,
just the idea of that philosophy, of the winstop mentality and the switchability and
the versatility where the Clippers that looked like they had their pulse. I always
said this about Jerry West. I always felt like because we don't really talked
about him, at least since I've been back on the show. But his
passing, you gave a brief eulogy. I believe you said. It sucks
no that I did not, so I thought you have to mention him on
him. Yeah, I always wondered if like he was evolving with the NBA
or the NBA was evolving with him based upon moves in the last fifty years,
you know. And I'm not saying he was the biggest voice in the
rub or anything like that with the Clippers, but he was a voice and
he will be missed. And philosophies and the changing of the guard in the
NBA sometimes can open up a window for you, and the Clippers definitely had
one, and now it just seems like we're transitioning into a new phase.
A lot of that's going to depend on what happens with Paul George. Of
course the first domino here. But wink Stop worked and they probably win the
championship in twenty twenty one. I believe that they would have, and they
would have been looked at as the team that like was playing, you know,
a brand of basketball that everybody else is trying to catch up to,
because that's what's going on with Boston now. I know they weren't taking forty
threes, but just Lucas in terms of you know, five out two way
guys, the Clippers were on top of it. They were. Yeah,
sucks, it just sucks. It sucks that and you know, I don't
think that I don't know that it's that necessarily instructive in terms of how you
think about building for what, you know, whatever window the Clippers want to
think they have with Kawhi Leonard now with this extension, what does his health
look like and his age and his declient all that. But if they want
to say there's another three year window here, I don't know that you can
use that as instruction, just because the Celtics had the chance to build this
around Tatum and Brown before they got the big contract. Like they they have
big contracts, but those guys are both making like twenty million dollars less each
than Paul George and Kawi Leonard. That means that you can get Drew Holliday
making thirty seven million dollars this year and Chris aaps porzingis thirty six million dollars
this year. The Clippers can't bring in guys like that, especially not you
know, maybe if they don't keep Paul George, they they could at some
point in the next twenty four months. But yeah, so I think it
just I think you're right, Idam. You know, it sucks. It
sucks to have been there in twenty twenty one and have seen the tides going
in that direction. Uh, and then Joe Ingles is frustrated. And that's
it, to be honest, Tatum and Brown, they're still young enough to
get there. They aren't as good of a combo as Kawhi and Paul George
at their best. They just won the championship without a top five player,
right that just happened. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the hell we're
living in. You nailed it well. I mean, like death of Talent
is pretty well, it's pretty crazy. Lucas. We do have to ask
you a question. Do you have a dip to talk about? Because if
not, we might, Oh, I have a what do I have?
A garlic cummis and some baby carrots? That's what I That's what I have.
All Right, we're gonna take a quick audio break and we're gonna talk
about Cam Christy and then we're gonna talk about our dips because that that's what
we do on the show on the off season. So audio wise, thank
you for listening. By the way, if you're watching, nothing's gonna change
coming up. We're talking Cam Christian dips in three two one welcome back in
it's Clips and Dip episode one. First team shout out Pat Bev episode one
of season three. Here on Clips and Dip under the two one three Hoops
Empire, and we currently have our sister podcast on You Could Say here,
and Lucas our boss Lucas Hand don't call him Hand as I did earlier,
is joining us here, the original t Bone before these guys tried to take
that moniker and give it. But you originally when we started this show,
You're like, we're gonna call you t Bone, Adam, Okay, I'll
take all. I'm gonna take all blame for all t Bone, I just
work. That was good advice, though, Think of how much more successful
this show would be if you'd just gone with it. I was trying to
get all of you guys to go with nicknames. I got some really good
advice on running a podcast network and involved giving everyone nicknames. Yeah, as
soon as we expanded to be from this one show that Love the Jam into
a network including you guys, I reached out to some folks I knew for
some advice, and I got the advice make everyone have a nickname. But
you know, you guys, just you wouldn't cooperate with being t Bone.
Well, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true.
We have fluid nicknames on this show. If you noticed the name tags
are ever changed. That's fair. The name times are always changing Europe.
Now a new name with the Clippers, a name you might recognize from across
the hall. Last name Christy, first name Cam Cameron Christie, brother of
Max Christie, who I've been saying right side of history. The Lakers should
have been playing Max Christie Moore last season. Why was Tori and Prince playing
that much when they had a guy who could also hit threes and was young
and could play some defense. Well, the Clippers just got his brother,
and he's young. The youngest guy that drafted since two thousand and five is
that Acurc. I'm like that he's eighteen. He's young as hell. He's
gotta be Livingston right just off the top of my head. So last time
the Clippers drafted in eighteen year olds everyone else. I thought, like Brandon
Boston might have been that young, but I guess not. He was nineteen,
I believe, Okay, an elder statesman. So we've seen the tape
floating around now on X and people starting to get excited because of how young
he is and how beautiful the shot is. You guys can say this is
hyperbole. I don't give a damn. I see shades at the top of
his jumper with the release of Michael Kidd, Gilchris No of Michael Michael Porter
Junior. I'm telling you at the very top you can see it just a
little bit, that quick release and how high he gets with it. Yeah,
he's just four inches shorter. It's not about that. He's still young.
He can grown grow four inches. He can grow four inches. Bro
Let him develop? Can we let the guy develop? We all we bring
these draft picks to grow right away. Man, you could grow another four
inches. You could grow another arm. He's young enough. He could recover
from that surgery that people. People are getting to get taller. Oh from
Gatica with He's knock. Yeah, they gotta swim. You gotta swim that
big race. Isn't that a part of Gatica? What MOOI are you talking
about? How excit are you about the pick? I mean for forty six
like that? We've seen the Clippers have bad picks in the forty six spot
or around that range. Before. And this is a guy who he has
defensive upside. He can shoot really well. He's eighteen. I hope he
gets a chance to develop in the G League. He has to grow a
bunch, which seems to be a common thread with Clippers, you know,
recent draft pick between him and in Boston. But he has the shot,
he seems to want to be good at defense. And the forty sixth pick,
I don't know what else you're gonna get. Plus you wuch of Minnesota,
which is where a mere coffee went, so they can hang. Will
they regret not drafting Brownie and holding him ransom like to good that the Boston
Celtics should do. Yeah, that would have gotten the Clippers a bunch of
good will and everyone would have thought that was a great move on their part.
Will how are you feeling about it? I mean, I'm like really
excited for forty six. I like, I can I can kind of see
it. It makes more sense than some of the other picks. Still very
I mean, they knew how Tolly was, No, they do know how
Tolly was, and I mean, like looking at his Minnesota highlights, I
definitely think there's something there. Not a whole lot of like versatility as a
playmaker or don't really see him being like handling the ball a whole lot,
but like as an off ball shooter, I like, I like the pick.
Yeah. The thing is though, it's just like how they never really
developed these guys. So unless you know, Paul George is gone, I
I you know, what are we even talking about here? Like maybe maybe
he could see rotation minutes in three seasons, Like I don't really he gets
to live on those dorms in San Diego or an ocean side. That's gonna
be sick, Lucas. You don't have him as the replacement for Paul George.
You know, you know what I was thinking, I'm not I'm not
ready to go quite Michael Porter Junior with it. But when I was watching
that, not yeah, I gotta see I gotta see Summer League first.
But when I was watching you know, his highlights and and granted I don't
I don't like when when the Clippers are picking in the lottery or something.
I like researched the prospects, sure, but I had never heard of Cam
Christie before the draft. Yest year, I was not not doing pre draft
research this year, Oh, casual yeah, yeah, real high level NBA
thing. But the big the drag on him is supposed to because he's so
young, Like is he physical ready or whatever? Right? Probably not?
Does he look less physically ready than rookie Landry Shammitt, did Jason Preston?
Well, Jason Preston wasn't I mean, Jason Preston wasn't good, So yeah,
I don't fare But but does he look less physically ready than than rookie
Landry Shammon, Like he's skinny, Yeah, but like Landry Shammitt, you
know, and and Shammit not like Shammitt has had become some All Star or
something, but he was playing rotation minutes, says rookie. And I think
the real thing for me is just going to be the pace of the game
for him, because if he's comfortable making micro decisions at the sped up pace
that you have to do to play against NBA athletes, if he's comfortable,
then the shots are gonna go in. He's gonna know when to cut,
he's gonna know when to come off of a screen. He's gonna shoot over
a close out. He's gonna know when to pump fake and take a dribble.
If he's comfortable at that pace, then then he'll be fine. If
he's not comfortable with that pace, if he's scared, or if he's if
he makes mistakes, or if he has because he's not sure if this SHOT's
going to get blocked or not, you know, then yeah, he's going
to need some time really to develop. But I'm not necessarily worried about the
strength coming in. I mean, maybe maybe it will, maybe it won't,
you know, between eighteen and twenty three, I'm sure that his body
will fill out some. But in terms of contributing, I don't know that
he necessarily needs strength to be able to be playable depth for the Clippers.
I think he just get going to need to be comfortable with the pace and
hit shots, and if he does, I think he could contribute, just
like just like Landry Sharman did. Did you guys see the report that a
few people were saying, if he stayed another year, he would have been
a lottery pick. That's what some were saying. I saw, I saw
first round. Yeah, some were saying, but uh, I remember reading
lottery Honestly, I remember reading something suspiciously like that about Jay Scrubby. Starring.
Uh, where is he? Juco legend Jay Scrubb the only Glippers player
I've ever seen in the press box during a game he was still ju coeligible.
He went back and can we talk just for a second about Jay scrub
When he left Juco was supposed to go to Louisville and then decided he'd like
he had committed to Louisville, and then he went, not, never mind,
I'm going to go into the NBA draft this year. And that was
the year the NBA draft was in like November or whatever because of the pandemic
blubbl blah blah blah. Right, so they had a guy who was supposed
to go to Louisville, and then the Clippers were like, no, don't
go to Louisville. Come to the NBA instead. And now they have Trenton
Flowers, who committed to Louisville out of high school, showed up to Louisville
for summer workouts and in August went I'm too good to be here and went
to Australia instead. We averaged he averaged five points a game, and now
he's undrafted free agents signed for the Clippers. They gotta yeah, we got
a type. It's guys who showed Louisville and decide never mind, yeah guys,
he say. I don't think I need that. It is worth talking
about just how ridiculous and how overblown draft talk is because of all the unknowns.
I've gone back and done rigorous amounts of research on drafting, and I
looked over a ten year period from twenty six to twenty sixteen, and out
of the top ten picks, which means one hundred picks over a ten year
period, twenty five of those guys were all stars in the top ten.
After that, it falls off precipitously. By the time you get to the
second round. It is more than a crap shoot. It's often just crap.
It's people throwing stuff at the walls. It's trying anything. So far
be it for me to defend the Lakers and Lebron and Browny, But I
just do want to say this. Taking him at fifty five is meaningless,
Like who bleeping cares the last ten picks, taking at fifty five, one
of them is still in the NBA outside of the Pacers pick from last season
who played three minutes that I can't remember his name, but he could be
out of the NBA by this summer if they waive him. One guy,
Aaron Wiggins, not Andrew Wiggins brother who I figured out today. One guy.
It is so hard and people bringing up all the Clippers misses right now
in our comments section. It's like, guys, bring out the microscope for
every team. You will find that if you're hitting at like three hundred,
just like in baseball, you're good. If you're hitting at like three hundred
in the draft, and I mean like playable guys. My favorite stat was
from Law Murray that the Clippers brought in seventy two players for pre draft workouts
and game Christie was not one of them. So like none, none of
that shit mattered. All right, let's say several of those guys are going
to be in Vegas, Yeah for sure. Okay, now, because supposedly
Lucas has a dip, I have to go downstairs and get it though,
well you should get it. This is that part of the show. We
can be without them. Well, so PJ. Tucker opted into his player
option eleven and a half mil. Apparently, the current price for dumping salary
seems to be three seconds. You give three seconds in the salary dump.
I'm hoping the Clippers do that immediately, right, get him off the team.
Why can't he be using the trade package because he's I don't know.
I mean, I would love that too, but I don't know how that
works. He just started a game six, must win game for his last
team. He did, he had more shots than than than Paul George in
the second half, but I don't know he opted in. It's not a
huge surprise. We knew it was coming. I hope he gets moved off
the team soon. I don't think he's good for Bones. I don't think
he's good for Bones, clearly because they both got in trouble right before the
All Star break. Right, I'm not crazy. I feel like it wasn't
a good vibe. Okay, Lucas on his back. We're talking dips,
and then we got to get out of here. Our first guest to bring
a dip was justin Russo Lucas, what dip do you have and what are
you enjoying it with? I have organic garlic hummus and I am enjoying it
with some baby carrots. How would you describe the dip and would you take
it to a barbecue? You're chewing with the sound on, which is fine.
Usually have a rule against that, but we didn't tell you, so
it's okay. That's how you know he's a boss. Will got banned last
episode for ten minutes for chewing it with the sound. I think it it
was five minutes, but yeah, like fifteen minutes. It's good. I
probably would not take it to a barbecue, though it's fine. I would
eat it at home, but I'm not sure that I would. You're not
saying hey over here? Yeah right? Like, okay, how about a
funeral? I think I brought a dip. Sorry, lot, I don't
see a table to put this down anywhere. If it was like part of
a spread, you know, I guess it would be fine. But if
I like, I feel like if I just showed up with like I brought
this small container of hummus and some carrots. Your father was a great man,
Adam. What did you bring for your dip? Uh? Same chips
this time. I don't know what chips are using or what you got there,
Lucas. I got these wild protein chips buffalo style because I got a
primal kitchen ranch dip made with avocado oil. There is no dairy in this
because I don't support cows. And what are the brands again, Primal Kitchen
and what's the other thing, Max Extreme Chips Protein chip. Yeah, it
was in the eye. I didn't know a health food store for this.
I swear it was just at my local pavilions. But as a ranch dip
by Primal Kitchen, it's okay. I don't think it's great as a ranch
conno sewer that loves ranch with his pizza child. I was kidding about that
part. I mean, of course I do take my probiotics just so I
can, but uh, it's decent. I would consider bringing it to the
picnic barbecue. Now I'll do the traditional does it hold it? Does there?
We go? Will your dip? So we have we're zero for two
on dips we would bring to a barbecue because it maybe's a no, that's
fair. I have a signature select chow called Peno Dip. This is the
hot variation. It's pretty good. It's it's got some it's got some zip
to it. I'm eating it with uh, just some savoy cabbage. You
know, my favorite, my favorite Keto chip. It's good. Yeah,
I don't know, I like it. That my issue is I couldn't show
like, I couldn't in good conscience show up to like, I feel like
this is very minimal effort for a barbecue for me. Uh, maybe if
I add it, I mean it could be part of Yeah, I mean
maybe if I bought several of these containers and like put it in a bowl
and heated it up with perhaps some cheese or something melted over the top,
I would I could feel a little bit, I could feel a little bit
more sure as a contribution. It's a good dip. But yeah, like
on its own, no, I would. I don't think i'd bring this
to a barbecue. Okay, that's fair. I went with I'm going with
cheat your spicy cheecher owns to eat my dip. And the dip I got
is. I'm just doing free promo for the place I get a bagel from
every single morning. It's called La Bagels. It's a food truck on Sunset
and Benton. I go there genuinely five days a week. The best salsa
you can probably get from a food truck. I absolutely love this salsa.
I go to a lot of food trucks. I go to a lot of
taco trucks. I love the salsa. I would bring a much more than
this to a barbecue and be the kind of salca whe people would take a
bite it and go good salsa and like getting the chip out of our mouth.
I would bring the salsa to a barbecue. And if you go to
La Bagels, get the salsa. They'll give you ketchup if you don't ask.
So get the salsa. So we're one for four on dips. Pretty
rough dip go around this time? Yeah, I mean, like I said,
this isn't bad. It's just not barbecue barbecue. One for four on
dips. Meanwhile, Cam Christy hasn't missed a shot in the NBA. What's
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