1 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,120 What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to Wow Season three, Episode 2 00:00:19,199 --> 00:00:24,359 one, live edition of Clips and Dip. I am Chuck Mockler, joined 3 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:28,960 my Adam Oslin and Will Hupdyke. So you can tell from Will's bottle opening 4 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,640 that was not Foley artistry. That was a real bottle opening. Sound Uh 5 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,560 he used his teeth. We're having a happy hour Friday. Hang, there's 6 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,920 a lot of stuff happening in the Clippers sphere. We're all waiting on the 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,439 Paul George news. I mean, weirdly, it feels like there is Russ 8 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:50,479 isn't coming back, Kawhi is playing for Team USA. We drafted the youngest 9 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,320 player of the Clippers of drafted I think and Cam Christy. But before we 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,320 get into it, we all have dips today. I'm assuming if you're watching, 11 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:00,560 thanks for watching. Adam, Will, how are you guys doing in 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:07,359 this Paul George stalemate that we're all enjoying. I don't know, Will, 13 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:11,640 how are you? I'm good? I mean, essentially we're gonna have an 14 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:17,120 answer, I guess by tomorrow, and if not, then there's still two 15 00:01:17,239 --> 00:01:22,159 avenues. Like it's it's not the end of whatever. The Paul George saga 16 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,519 is if we don't have an answer by tomorrow, though it essentially means the 17 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,079 options are Paul George returns as a Clipper or leaves for nothing. So yeah, 18 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,040 I don't know a lot to look forward to, a lot to ponder. 19 00:01:34,519 --> 00:01:37,760 I'm sure. I mean, we're gonna get into it. But I 20 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,719 am weirdly high on this draft pick. Like I was watching some footage. 21 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 You know, I didn't. I didn't expect this move. I don't know. 22 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,760 I didn't know a whole lot at all about this draft class. But 23 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,480 after seeing some of the highlights, I'm I'm fairly excited about this pick. 24 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Yeah, I'm I'm pumped on the Kawhi news. I know that you guys 25 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,359 are opinions. I know that you guys have different opinions, but we'll get 26 00:02:00,359 --> 00:02:01,840 into it. Adam, how are how are you? How are you sitting 27 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,760 with everything going on in the Clippers sphere right now? I just am elated 28 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,120 that we're doing episode one of a new season and everybody's so excited. This 29 00:02:12,159 --> 00:02:15,879 is way better in the Bear's new season. This is oh clips and dip 30 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:19,680 here. Okay, I'm two episodes in and it sucks, so fuch. 31 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,800 I got is that true. I think that it sucks, But I'm still 32 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,360 gonna watch the last two from last season. I'm catching up. I was 33 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,280 doing a binge. I couldn't watch it for so long because I didn't have 34 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:31,840 my diet in line, and I always felt like if I watched the Bear, 35 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,000 I'm gonna order all this food on door dash, like they're basically marketing 36 00:02:37,039 --> 00:02:40,879 for them the Paul George stuff. We'll know if he's opting in by tomorrow 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,800 night. So we're gonna know if he's a free agent on Sunday by tomorrow. 38 00:02:46,319 --> 00:02:51,159 Right the opt the deadline is Saturday night. Unless they can also extend 39 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,639 that deadline. I don't. I don't know exactly how that works. I 40 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,719 don't. They've been extending people's deadlines all day. CP three's, but that's 41 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,680 his guaranteed money. Yeah, that's where most of the smoke is coming from. 42 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:08,199 Also, is the the Warriors seem to be That's where most of the 43 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:12,560 smoke is coming from. There was the offer that the Nuggets were mentioned in 44 00:03:12,599 --> 00:03:16,199 an article where the Clippers were asking for mpj Zeke Naji and a bunch of 45 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,400 draft capital, which that would be great, But I can see why the 46 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:25,120 Nuggets maybe didn't do that. Apparently the draft capital was the big hangout for 47 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:29,960 them because they have been drafting very well and they're trying to reload, and 48 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,439 yeah, we might lose KCP, but we have Christian Brown now, so 49 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,800 it's okay, and more power to them. They've done well with implementing those 50 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,280 young guys. Yeah, so that trade wasn't gonna happen. What are the 51 00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:45,919 Clippers? You know, we don't know for sure. We're gonna talk the 52 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:52,680 Kauwi team USA stuff. Hypothetically, the Clippers package that they get from the 53 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:55,800 Warriors is probably including CP three to a third team, is what the scuttle. 54 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,199 But the Windhorse said it like that kind of thing. The Clippers just 55 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,000 need to get picks and a young guy for Paul George if possible. If 56 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:13,240 that's the move, is not allowed back as a Clipper, he because a 57 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,399 lot of the fan base doesn't like him anymore? Does Is that why everyone's 58 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:20,560 assuming he's not going to be back, Because I'm pretty sure it could turn 59 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,680 the other way very quickly. If he became the backup point guard for them 60 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,639 and was given him fifteen minutes a night, everyone be like, yeah, 61 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,399 it's CP three yeah, a little victory laugh action. I guess for him, 62 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:33,800 I don't think it'd be a victory laugh. I think it would not. 63 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,759 He was not very good last year, right, Warriors fans weren't really 64 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,480 excited about him. He'd be facillity. He'd have to go back to the 65 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:46,519 New Orleans Hornets to have a victory laugh and they don't exist, the Hornets. 66 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,319 I just you know, people talk about kuminga like there's gonna be a 67 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:53,519 drop off in trading Paul George. There's people who are sour on Paul George 68 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,199 right now. But we're not getting anyone back who's gonna fill in that talent 69 00:04:58,319 --> 00:05:00,720 level. We're only gonna get guys who try harder, which is kind of 70 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,959 you know what I mean, Like, so they need to get draft capital 71 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,920 and young guys who have a projection to be okay to good. Yeah, 72 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,959 I mean I think, yeah, ideally you're getting at least a rotation piece 73 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,839 and some some draft capital. Mingo, it would be kaminga or something like 74 00:05:19,079 --> 00:05:24,439 in this situation. That's what people have been clamoring. Yeah, wouldn't you 75 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:28,800 be surprised though, if the Clippers made a move to a like a the 76 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Warriors yeah, tod like a Western conference, I mean, not visional divisional 77 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:40,480 rival. I honestly wouldn't worry about that. I'd worry about making the best 78 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:43,160 move possible. If you have to trade with a rival to do that, 79 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 you do that, especially because uh, time is now. Time is of 80 00:05:47,079 --> 00:05:53,639 the essence. This thing has been playing out for some time when you account 81 00:05:53,639 --> 00:05:56,759 for the fact that he's been extension eligible from the start of the season. 82 00:05:57,319 --> 00:06:00,639 Yeah, you're in contest. Yeah, I just don't. I don't know 83 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,720 that there's a move out there that like makes the Clippers any more of a 84 00:06:03,759 --> 00:06:08,800 contender, you know, I don't see it, Like, like I've said, 85 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,600 I mean, any trade essentially is going to be a downgrade in talent. 86 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,040 You're just hoping to replenish some assets or get younger. So I guess 87 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:18,439 maybe that does change the calculus of like do you work with a team in 88 00:06:18,439 --> 00:06:23,360 the same conference, in the same division. I'm curious now though, with 89 00:06:23,439 --> 00:06:29,959 this Pelican's news and still seemingly no word on Ingram, you know, like 90 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,600 who knows, maybe they could come to terms on some sort of contract thing, 91 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:38,160 but it doesn't currently seem like he's part of those long term plans. 92 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:42,759 So does that open up, maybe another avenue. I don't know how much 93 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,079 interest Paul George would have in going there, obviously, another team built around 94 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,199 like a superstar who hasn't had a whole lot of health luck. So like, 95 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,240 I don't know if that's something he would even be interested in doing an 96 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:00,680 opt in trade. But yeah, I mean from those reports on what they 97 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,680 were asking for from the Nuggets, I'm hi, yeah, I'm just wondering 98 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:11,920 if the Clippers are I mean, I don't want to say shooting themselves on 99 00:07:11,959 --> 00:07:15,199 the foot, because obviously he's a high value player, he demands a high 100 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:21,279 value return. But I guess with just how long these negotiations have been going 101 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:27,279 on, it seems it doesn't seem like the most likely scenario that he's going 102 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:30,560 to return on a discounted deal, Like, if that was gonna happen, 103 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:32,519 I just feel like they would have locked up a deal by now, like 104 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:38,480 I the least. So the least likely scenario of all the scenarios to me 105 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,759 is Clippers extend PG at a max. Like I think if that was gonna 106 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:46,439 happen, obviously that would have already happened. Maybe it's the longest stal May 107 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,920 ever to a very boring conclusion. I just don't think it's in the car. 108 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,360 They don't. I don't think there's any way that that I would I 109 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:57,920 would basically take that option off the table, like I would be shocked if 110 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,839 that is somehow the resolution to this entire Soka Adam, how would you feel 111 00:08:01,839 --> 00:08:07,319 if PG came back on like three for one the Kahi deal basically still over 112 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,720 the second Apron by like twenty two million, if we get hard and back 113 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,040 on like three for one hundred or something like that, which you're assuming Harden 114 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:20,839 is definitely going to be back because they gave up a first round pick just 115 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,519 last year for him, yeah, or not going to let him go, 116 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,439 and he played very well in that playoff series. He was the best player. 117 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:39,440 I'd welcome it, honestly, because it's also still a tradable contract just 118 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:46,159 to have that option down the line in case they do at some point decide 119 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:52,159 to try to blow it up and get something back for a guy that let's 120 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,159 say, if he only has two years left on that contract, well, 121 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,120 by the end of it, yeah, he's going to be thirty seven, 122 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,320 thirty eight, I think, yeah, something like that. He's thirty four 123 00:09:01,399 --> 00:09:09,919 now, I think that deal has been reported to be there for a while 124 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,480 if he wanted the three year contract extension. Yeah, and taking less than 125 00:09:16,519 --> 00:09:20,639 the one point fifty that Kawhi Leonard got. That's been there. So the 126 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:28,360 only way things would change. And going back to what Will said is that 127 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:31,399 he doesn't have a max offer waiting for him anywhere else and he just goes, 128 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:37,960 well, I'll take the three year extension and play at home rather than 129 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:41,120 go somewhere else for the exact same contract and just stay right here with the 130 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Clippers. Would you put it past Paul George to not have anything lined up? 131 00:09:45,639 --> 00:09:48,080 Well, I just want to say I want to say one thing too, 132 00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:52,320 is I mean, even with Paul George's age, I think in a 133 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,440 lot of other free agencies, and especially given like the talent roster of who's 134 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,919 available as a free agent this year, I think there would be a lot 135 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,679 of teams lining up to offer Paul George that max deal if the Clippers weren't 136 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,159 willing to do it. I think the separate and apron is changing a lot 137 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:11,200 of that calculus for every single one of those teams. And yes, so 138 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,919 you look at the teams that do have the definitive cap space, but they 139 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,960 have future considerations like if okay, see was the outright sign them or something. 140 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,799 You know what happens when they have to renew these guys like that timeline 141 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:28,039 doesn't add up, and then you have to deal with trading this massive contract 142 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,559 that still has potentially two years left on it for a thirty six year old 143 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,320 guy. So I think that it's you know, like, I think it 144 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,159 would be a little bit different if not for the current salary cap limitations, 145 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,799 the hard cap era. Basically, the Knicks were interested last season, right 146 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:50,720 and when they got a whift of Paul George wanting the max, they said, 147 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,799 oh, we're going to back up off of this. Now are some 148 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,840 teams just coming to that realization? I know, intel and analytics departments, 149 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:05,519 and uh, there's a lot of knowledge and a lot of roles in the 150 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,080 NBA today. You would think everybody would know the age of a player before 151 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,639 they trade for him, before they signed him. Unlet's yeah, I would 152 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:20,799 go there, but he's thirty four, that's his age. I feel like 153 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,840 some teams, even the Philadelphia seventy six ers, I was a little bit 154 00:11:24,879 --> 00:11:28,960 surprised when I heard they were so hot to try for Paul George just because 155 00:11:33,039 --> 00:11:37,840 yeah, a Max at thirty four, that's I get it, because you 156 00:11:37,879 --> 00:11:43,480 have Joe el Embiid. But we just saw a playoff series where it felt 157 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:48,000 like he was wearing down as it was going along right and had less and 158 00:11:48,039 --> 00:11:52,120 it was a first round series. We're talking about the first round of the 159 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,120 playoffs, and he was already looking old by the end of it. And 160 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,879 maybe some of it was just scheme, and he talked about on the podcast 161 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:01,919 and how they littered up to try to stop him and they were putting two 162 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:07,080 guys at the elbows just waiting for him, and he didn't have a lot 163 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,639 of room to operate. And mean, we never seen mudge into it, 164 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,480 because he did look pretty spry at the end of the season after he came 165 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,759 out of you know that swoon were for two months. Paul George wasn't playing 166 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:24,039 like himself right in that first round series outside of Game one and Game four, 167 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,720 score nineteen points per game, and worse than that, taking less than 168 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,080 fifteen shots per game. I think it was fourteen points. Something that's just 169 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,639 inexcusable in a situation without Kawhi Leonard or at least a fully healthy Kawhi Leonard. 170 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:41,039 Yeah and yeah, I agree. My thing with Philadelphia has just always 171 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:46,679 been like, whatso you're hoping you can get one healthy postseason out of Joel 172 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,919 Embead. I mean, that's like square one, but you're trying to assemble 173 00:12:50,919 --> 00:12:54,120 the best possible roster around him. That doesn't mean the ideal roster, right, 174 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,159 just the best possible the best you can actually availably get. And Paul 175 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,679 George checks the lot of those boxes, especially when you consider like it'd be 176 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,679 difficult for them to make a trade they have sony salaries coming off the books. 177 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:07,120 That's the flip side of having a lot of cap space, right, 178 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,120 You don't have a lot of those tradable contracts that you can package together for 179 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:18,039 a star. It hasn't historically been a big free agent destination, so like 180 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,639 Paul George, to me, makes a lot of sense for them. Even 181 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:26,480 if you know that it's maybe two years, you know, like it's it's 182 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:31,960 optimistically two good years. Case before that contract is I don't want to say 183 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,840 a poison pill, but it's abatross. It's a bad contract, and if 184 00:13:33,919 --> 00:13:39,320 you win the championship in the first two years, you could care less about 185 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,039 it. If you. Yeah, if you win one at the age of 186 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:46,240 thirty seven and thirty eight, Yeah, if you win one, who cares? 187 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,120 That's uh? I mean, are we talking about Paul George leaving the 188 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,799 Clippers if they had one one? No, he's a legacy player, Yeah 189 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,879 and forever. The max isn't it? But the max isn't a question at 190 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,840 that point? Yeah, the champions, Like, I don't even think we're 191 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,440 having this conversation, Like, we're not having this conversation. If they win 192 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:11,360 one, he wants the max, Yeah, get the take the max. 193 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:15,480 Like it doesn't doesn't. I don't think he has a max. Also, 194 00:14:15,639 --> 00:14:18,720 just in this current scenario, you don't think there's one out there, Golden 195 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,639 I don't think for all this stuff, I don't. I don't. I 196 00:14:22,639 --> 00:14:24,759 don't think so. Man, Like he's already limited to a West Coast team 197 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,200 for all the information we have, it's West Coast. So I'm not worried 198 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,559 about the magic giving him a MAX. I mean, if you really want 199 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,879 maybe again, I don't. Lucas Han was just in here saying it doesn't 200 00:14:35,879 --> 00:14:39,759 seem like he has a plan B. Maybe he doesn't, and like he 201 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:43,639 panics and takes the max from Orlando, But I think he's I think it's 202 00:14:43,639 --> 00:14:46,600 a true If he's really all about the money, that deal makes the most 203 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:50,480 sense, absolutely, very favorable income tax situation. Yeah, which is fine 204 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:54,399 if that's what this really all boils down to, is the money. Like 205 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:56,879 I would take the Max from Orlando, but the West Coast thing, it's 206 00:14:56,919 --> 00:15:00,879 like maybe it's yeah, maybe it's that. Maybe it's Kings. Maybe they're 207 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:05,919 a dark horse somehow with Picks and Herder and Barnes or something. But I 208 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,000 don't know. I think I don't think he has the MAX. The only 209 00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:16,320 reason I think there's an outside shot Golden State would give him the MAX is 210 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:20,679 because they do have an ultimate legacy player, an NBA legacy player. He's 211 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,000 not just attached to their franchise, He's attached to NBA history. And you 212 00:15:24,039 --> 00:15:28,240 have to treat those guys differently. And they are an organization that has spent 213 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,159 money and is willing to do so. And one of the reasons we got 214 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:35,159 the new CBA wasn't just to stop the Clippers, it was Golden State. 215 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,919 They're not opposed I think, to doing things like this to extend the window 216 00:15:41,039 --> 00:15:45,480 for Steph Curry. Yeah, appear to the fan base that well, we 217 00:15:45,559 --> 00:15:50,279 lost Klay Thompson and we really just upgrade with Paul George and we feel pretty 218 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,200 good about our chances for one more ring with this crew of Steph Curry and 219 00:15:54,279 --> 00:16:00,759 Draymond and then it would be Paul George as the new guy. I don't 220 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:04,639 think that's I don't think it's that crazy that they could offer him the MAX 221 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:10,159 just because you almost have a responsibility when you have someone like Steph Curry who's 222 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,720 still good to go for it. Say this with Kershaw and the Dodgers, 223 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:18,320 Like you have a guy like that, it's they don't have an avenue. 224 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,080 I don't think they have an avenue to outright sign him to a MAX. 225 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,360 No, no, no. The only way he can get there would be 226 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,240 a sign and trade. He'd opt in and then like he would have to 227 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,519 where is he gonna walk for a MAX? You can't walk to the Warriors. 228 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:36,279 No, he cannot walk to that. Yeah. Sorry. When we 229 00:16:36,279 --> 00:16:38,440 were talking Max, I was just making places that he could, like if 230 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,840 he's a agent, that he could go for a MAX. But the Warriors 231 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,159 that I mean, Adam, all those points make a bunch of sense. 232 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:56,919 Steph is can obviously still contribute and aside from dumbass Stephen A. Smith, 233 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,759 Paul George is really good on catch and shoot threes shot. Yeah, that 234 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,680 was an insane No, it wasn't crazy. It was par for the course, 235 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,079 a casual try to talk like a high level NBA guy and having no 236 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,680 clue. Yeah, like a guy who's been in the league for almost fifteen 237 00:17:12,759 --> 00:17:15,920 years. He still couldn't figure out that Paul Paul George wants to do a 238 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,200 shoe take. What are we even talking about you? Yeah, I mean 239 00:17:21,279 --> 00:17:22,799 it didn't sound like that with the way. I don't know, you might 240 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,640 not have been as happy in that role playing off ball next to James Harden. 241 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,839 Well, he hasn't been happy in the role where he was handling the 242 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:37,400 ball either, So that's the only two real roles you. Yeah, all 243 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,440 right, we're gonna let's table some of the Paul George talk. It is 244 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:44,400 scintillating, Yeah, just because as exciting as it is, we're so many 245 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,640 more answers in yeah, four hours let's talk. We're taking a quick audio 246 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,240 break because we are going to put this out on podcasts, So if you 247 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:53,279 want to listen to this later, go for it. Ads coming up and 248 00:17:53,279 --> 00:17:59,519 then we're talking Kawhi Leonard to Team USA. All right, we're back. 249 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Very wow, what a transition. If you're watching this on YouTube, thank 250 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:11,680 you. Kawhi Leonard is reportedly good to go for playing for Team USA in 251 00:18:11,759 --> 00:18:15,200 the Olympics. There was some talk that maybe Derek White was going to take 252 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:22,160 his place. Sure, Uh, how are we feeling? Well? You 253 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,119 said you feel good about this? Because this is this is I feel like 254 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:29,359 major news for Clippers fans. You feel good about Kawhi being on track to 255 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,599 play for Team USA. Look, I mean, Kawhi Leonard being cleared for 256 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:40,839 basketball activities is always good news. And I I understand I understand the Clippers 257 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,519 or Clippers fans concerns about, you know, like why would you want him 258 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:49,880 to use his health time? Uh? Not for the Clippers, And to 259 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,079 me, it's more a question of, like, we need to know how 260 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,599 this knee is going to respond, and to me, it's still much better 261 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,319 to figure that out, uh, you know, in the off season before 262 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,480 we come in, uh than it is to figure it out in say, 263 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,880 December. So I think anytime Kawhi Leonard is able to play basketball at a 264 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,359 high level, it's it's reason to be elated. Uh, and I don't 265 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,400 have an issue with this. I you know, that's fair. I don't 266 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,960 think that it's going to be I don't think that it poses like that big 267 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,319 of an issue. You know, he's not going to be playing thirty six 268 00:19:22,319 --> 00:19:26,240 minutes a game or something. It's just you know, it's it's it's an 269 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:30,640 all star cast. He's he's part, like he's part of being there. 270 00:19:30,799 --> 00:19:33,720 I feel like it's, you know, one other thing that he can kind 271 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,960 of add to his legacy, if that's even something that interests him at this 272 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:41,000 stage of his career. I'm I'm all for it, to be perfectly honest 273 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:45,240 with you, Lucas says, congratulates to Will on being correct. Most fans 274 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,200 on Twitter, we had four hundred and thirty votes. They're feeling good about 275 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,440 it. Paul, looks similar to something I saw last night with these numbers 276 00:19:53,440 --> 00:20:00,559 as weird. Wait wait, that's where you're getting statistics from. Buddy. 277 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,960 We lost, guys, we all lost, Yeah, we all we all 278 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:10,039 lost. Good god? But uh, I mean it helps with the trade 279 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,319 value if he's able to play basketball, because how would I've been thinking about 280 00:20:12,319 --> 00:20:15,839 this more too. It's like, how would you feel if you at the 281 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,799 end of this summer, we saw on alert that Kawhi was cleared for no 282 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,200 basketball and he wasn't even able to participate in Team USA. You'd feel like 283 00:20:22,279 --> 00:20:26,640 shit, it would feel worse than knowing that he can play basketball. Well, 284 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,839 I think, right, I don't know, Like I said, not 285 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,720 to like like bemoan the point too much, but it's like, it's also 286 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,559 very different to you know, be cleared on the team for some like court 287 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:42,319 want like you know, some court pickup or whatever, uh than playing like, 288 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:47,519 you know, high level basketball, uh and seeing how the knee responds. 289 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:49,000 And that's gonna have to happen at some point, and I'd just rather 290 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:55,559 it happened, you know, more before October. Yeah, before October, 291 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:59,119 Adam, go ahead, Sorry, we've been no a piggyback off of that. 292 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:04,000 That's the best point. I understand the frustration from the forty one point 293 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:10,440 nine percent saying why is he doing we are the forty one point nine percent. 294 00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:15,240 He doesn't get a pick and choose when he's healthy, and if he 295 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,640 is healthy, then he should be out playing basketball now. It is interesting 296 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,400 because he has always said before that he doesn't play five on five during the 297 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,599 summer and I think that goes back to some of the AAU guys. They 298 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,319 all didn't do much. You play so much basketball during the year. It's 299 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,559 just like, yeah, kids have so many miles on him. But I 300 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,960 wondered if part of that for Kawhi was knowing that he has more wear and 301 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,200 tear in his body, ors more injury prone. So he's not going to 302 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:48,039 go through the most strenuous exercises, which are involved with explosive movements in a 303 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:53,799 five on five setting during the summer. He's going to save everything for the 304 00:21:53,880 --> 00:22:00,880 regular season. It's TMSA though, and as you mentioned, not only is 305 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,680 his workload going to be lessened because of all the star power with Redeem Team 306 00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:08,240 three or whatever they're calling this one. Even though they won the last time, 307 00:22:08,319 --> 00:22:14,240 you know, things were a little too Yeah, so this time they're 308 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,519 bringing the Avengers back. I think Wemby's playing for Team USA this year. 309 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,720 They got that figured out, So I think that's not true, right, 310 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:29,799 No, that's absolutely right. Well emb is Embiyah, Yeah, that makes 311 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:32,440 sense. That makes more sense to Wemby playing for Team USA. He was 312 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,279 born in France and Canada are going to be tough. It's going to be 313 00:22:36,319 --> 00:22:41,960 interesting France. Sure this week from trash Talk. Yeah, the tomb Battalion. 314 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000 I mean, what do you guys think about you know, like what 315 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,559 what do you Lucas? I just say, because he brought it up in 316 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,160 the chat, Like what would you guys think about the inverse? Like what 317 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,880 would be the perception if it was like the team is holding like he's going 318 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,400 to be sitting out of the Olympics. I mean, I guess the the 319 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,119 team can block it. They just did with Andrew Wiggins. Yeah, like 320 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,880 doing that with Kawi Optically that's a lot worse. Yeah. Absolutely. It 321 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,519 also would make people think if we got an alert that the Clippers had blocked 322 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,279 Kawhi. I think also people would think he's hurt or maybe trained, because 323 00:23:12,319 --> 00:23:15,359 that's why the Warriors blocked Wiggins because they want to move him and they don't 324 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,759 want to get hurt. What makes me feel best and what assuage is my 325 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:27,599 fears most would be suages. Number One, Noah Eagle's going to be there 326 00:23:27,599 --> 00:23:34,160 with him if anything goes wrong on the call, which Wayne Wade goes a 327 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,680 long way, you look up from the ground and there's no ye, it's 328 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,720 fair. Two. Coach Lou was going to be there and Van Gundy, 329 00:23:42,799 --> 00:23:48,400 right, van Gundy in some role, Steve Kerr, Eric Spolstra. But 330 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:56,119 coach Lou who jokingly said after Kawhi got heard again this I think was the 331 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,000 exit interview after they lost game six the first round. He said, yeah, 332 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:06,119 we're going back to load management, uh jokingly, but he's gonna make 333 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,559 sure Kawhi is good. He knows what healthy Kawhi looks like better than anyone. 334 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:17,839 So if anything's amiss, Coach Lo's gonna handle it. And like like 335 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,160 Will said, probably a good idea to find out now, because yeah, 336 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,000 the swelling issue and how mysterious it was when you talk about swelling for two 337 00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:32,119 months but there's no structural damage. It's just like, well, what's what's 338 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,319 his body trying to tell him that what is happening with that? And you 339 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,680 worry about And this is what I always said when everybody was saying, oh, 340 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,279 he's gonna play game one or he's gonna play game two, and then 341 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:48,480 he did play game two, what I always said was I'm not so much 342 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,640 worried about how he looks in that first game. I'm worried about the next 343 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:56,960 day and how he feels afterwards. And then you see what happened. What 344 00:24:56,079 --> 00:25:00,319 transpired was game two he looked much better, and then game three he looked 345 00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,920 like a shell of himself and probably shouldn't have played after the first stick. 346 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,839 Dude, that was that bad. That was one of the more like will 347 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:08,880 you and I rep in the press box for that? That was one of 348 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:15,480 the more like demoralizing just shifts you could watch it play lost his basketball powers 349 00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:21,920 type stuff. I mean, absolutely brutal, so disheartening we are that also 350 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,200 flies in the face by the way people who say Kawhi Leonard doesn't want to 351 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:30,440 play, like the dudes hanging on the rim in game three and scared to 352 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:37,680 drop to land on his knee, Like that's how concerning it was. We 353 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,960 are getting some counterpoints, and because there are some fair there are some fair 354 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:44,640 counter like it is the wear and tear thing, right, Like if there's 355 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,640 a wear and tear the people who are concerned, some of their concern is 356 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,079 about, you know, running on the knees and how that has to do 357 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,559 with the season. But is this guy a doctor or is this just bros? 358 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,079 But I think it's a but you know what I'm saying, Like if 359 00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:00,720 it is, but I also him your standpoint, I want to get what 360 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:03,319 he wants to get. He doesn't have a gold medal. I understand him 361 00:26:03,319 --> 00:26:07,960 why well, and I understand the thing of like an overused thing too, 362 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,160 But like if that's still happening, you have options to to see, like 363 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:18,519 what you know, what the course of treatment is after or during like Olympic 364 00:26:18,599 --> 00:26:22,279 basketball, instead of after the start of the NBA season. I'm just reporting 365 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:25,720 it, and I don't think anyone's qualified here to go. He has this 366 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:30,759 many games he can play, and that point is the threshold he crosses and 367 00:26:30,799 --> 00:26:33,039 then yeah, I also don't know if it's like a finite, like if 368 00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:36,839 they knew for sure, it's like, hey, he can play thirty games 369 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,920 on this knee. Obviously I wouldn't want him play in the Olympics. I 370 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,359 want to save those thirty games for the end of the season. But that's 371 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,640 just not the situation. It's it's a very much They're gonna have to see 372 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,319 how it responds, So let's go ahead and see how it responds early. 373 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:56,559 Yeah, respect couldn't it also be that it swelled up not just from over 374 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,640 use and wear and tear, but from a particular movement that happened if he 375 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,599 is not eating enough salt. They looked into this. Has he been to 376 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:11,480 K barbecue recently? So I'm gonna think about I've seen him hold like, 377 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:18,000 you know, four or five Gatorade bottles in one hand and electrolyz are just 378 00:27:18,079 --> 00:27:22,880 salt. Guys. Why isn't there K barbecue at the new Clipper City? 379 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,960 But like he needs kosher salt, just consuming good old fashioned kosher salt. 380 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:34,759 Maybe some butter. Yeah, So so my question back to uh the nurse 381 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:41,559 and uh you say, emergency technician, Uh, I see you experience. 382 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,039 What's your suggestion over there? What? What's what's your suggestion for sure? 383 00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:56,920 If if it is, by the way you're looking at it, you only 384 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:03,160 have so many plays in you or you have a limited amount of time before 385 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,720 it swells up, keep him out till March and hope the Clippers are still 386 00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:12,599 in the playoff picture, Like what is what is the plan here? Only 387 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:18,240 playing against teams above five hundred in the regular season, what's exactly the plan? 388 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,240 I mean, he has his own medical team and and the Clippers are 389 00:28:22,279 --> 00:28:26,720 gonna let him do whatever he wants for the most part too. Like he 390 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:32,119 has it's over there Okay, so we just have a doomer. He's not 391 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,519 partially wrong. This is the issue with kawhis It sucks like he is an 392 00:28:36,519 --> 00:28:38,720 injury guy, which sucks. This is a great point. In fact, 393 00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:42,279 Gregory Elwood, the doctors are on the other podcast. Doctor Chef is in 394 00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:48,720 fact on the other podcast. This is a great point. And yeah, 395 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,279 how realistic that is. It's not which So that's that's where we're at. 396 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,160 And Kawhi is gonna do he's any I hope he gets the gold medal. 397 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,480 I don't know, man, it's it's tough to get him the robot from 398 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,079 Aliens. Save him for the playoffs that they might not make without him, 399 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,359 because there's gonna be like five game difference between the three seed and the A 400 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,279 seeds probably, Lucas, do you want to come on the pod? Are 401 00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:15,000 you doing anything right now? Do you want to hop in? We're just 402 00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:21,519 doing a live Do we want to talk about the rust thing stalking hard? 403 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,240 Do we want to talk about Russ not being on the team anymore? Yes? 404 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,640 Okay. Someone asked earlier, who's gonna be the energy guy without Russ? 405 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:33,000 I don't know, man, who's gonna be the guy that goes eight 406 00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:37,680 for forty one in five straight games in the playoffs, and it's the all 407 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:44,279 time worst efficiency in a playoff stretch of five games. I'm more concerned about 408 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,720 execution than energy. I feel like Bolls could supply some energy he was doing 409 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,079 in the season. There are maybe some people who didn't hear. For those 410 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,839 of you who missed the Till Mayor article, Till Mayor who was very plugged 411 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:59,240 in with the Clippers one of the five or six reporters, you should absolutely 412 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,839 take Clippers news from league sources have told Clutch Points that Westbrook is not expected 413 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,519 to be in a Clippers uniform next season, with him reportedly looking at other 414 00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,559 options that would include opportunity and playing time. So that's where we're at. 415 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,839 What anyone answered me, what is the difference between opportunity and playing time? 416 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,720 Like, what's the opportunity if not playing time? He's not on the team 417 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,720 anymore. Man, we don't have to do this. We don't got to 418 00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:30,880 worry about this anymore. But like, does he want to be It's still 419 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,319 an opportunity to just be there on the bench with Lebron even if you're not 420 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,519 playing and still out of the G League, Like that's an opportunity. But 421 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,000 yeah, for most people, it is about actually getting out there and playing 422 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:49,359 minutes. I just can't stress enough how under the radars flown, how ridiculously 423 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,559 bad Russell Westbrook was in that playoff series. I don't think it's flown under 424 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:59,400 who has been a notoriously bad playoff player and then set the all time record 425 00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,640 for worst efficiency over a five game stretch in playoff history. As I put 426 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,160 it, I love Russ, but what are we talking about with the energy? 427 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,880 Energy? Hey, the crowd always popped. The crowd always popped when 428 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,160 Russ was out there, and the layups popped out, like I r off 429 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,599 the room. It's like when someone takes a bunch of adderall to get work 430 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,240 done and then just is cruising down a Wikipedia hole. It's like, man, 431 00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:34,519 I'm glad that you have this laser focus Wikipedia. Hey, they thank 432 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,799 you for the update of Russ stays and brings the energy next season. Great, 433 00:31:40,319 --> 00:31:44,319 but the execution also has to be there at times, especially when you 434 00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,480 need him most. In a series like that where they didn't have Kawhi Leonard, 435 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,240 Yeah, he had the he had the moments against the Suns. You 436 00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,759 know, we should have had a take foul. They should have called that 437 00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:56,319 a takefoul. And Devin Booker, that was crazy. He was good in 438 00:31:56,359 --> 00:32:01,039 that series legitimately. Yeah, even when he wasn't scoring efficiently, obviously, 439 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:07,519 who was making plays and doing other things. Yes, but some of that 440 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,079 is cooled, and now we are in a restless world potentially for the Clippers. 441 00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:15,640 I hope all of his fans are okay. I'm sure they're excited for 442 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:21,400 the opportunity for him to get more playing time. I hope they enjoy Charlotte 443 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,680 or wherever. Now that brings us to the Clippers needing to fill another They 444 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,240 got the backup five they got to figure out. Now we're at the backup 445 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:34,240 two. Bones Highland obviously the popular choice. He's young, second team All 446 00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,720 rookie, has shown some inconsistencies. The first four games of the season were 447 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:44,680 phenomenal for Bones. The three games directly after that were very bad. And 448 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,279 I love Bones, but the consistency, if he has a good preseason, 449 00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:53,200 I think this is I hope this is bones job to lose. I mean, 450 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,720 right like that, I hope it is right now here because we're not 451 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,839 bringing Intamar to back up. We're not bringing in Chris Paul to back up, 452 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,640 I think a lot with Bones. I think one of the downsides to 453 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,359 him has been, you know, he's still a young player, and that 454 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:19,440 maturity of just knowing that, regardless of the opportunity, you have to take 455 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680 advantage of it at all times. Serious cause it sure seemed like there was 456 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:28,839 a big difference in his play from before James Harden was there the first four 457 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,559 games, and the trade rumors picked up a lot more, and maybe that 458 00:33:30,599 --> 00:33:35,799 affected his play some because even when he got those two games to start, 459 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,759 when James Harden was out and he thrived against Chicago, and I didn't think 460 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:45,319 it was terrible against the Pelicans, honestly, but afterwards, whenever playing time 461 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,000 he got, he just didn't look the same like he was. He was 462 00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:54,160 fully invested out there on the court, like he was treating it like it 463 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,680 was garbage time. And let me tell you, when you're a young guy 464 00:33:57,759 --> 00:34:00,920 like that, it doesn't matter if it's garbage. I relate in the game. 465 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,759 Bones has to show what he has because he's got a bag, he's 466 00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:07,559 got a lot. He has the skills, and especially with a coach like 467 00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,400 Tyler. Tyler is not a coach who wants to watch you kind of dog 468 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,519 it or anything like that, you know what I mean, Like Tyler, 469 00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:16,719 if you're a young guy, Lucas Hahn, how are you, sir? 470 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,159 This guy t Bone on the pod? T Bone? Hey, how's it 471 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:28,559 going good? We're talking Bones Highland needing to be more consistent. I want 472 00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:30,320 his thoughts on Russ. Yeah, so let's talk about Russ. I know 473 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:37,119 I've broken up. Where's the parade? Dodgers didn't get one, Russ can't 474 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,280 get one? Yeah, I think I think we could have a Russ is 475 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,519 no longer on the team parade. It's the best thing that happened to the 476 00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:49,320 Clippers since Kawi got here? Do you think Bones can do what it needs 477 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,280 to be done to be the backup too? Backup two? No for Bones, 478 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:59,480 no backup one, backup one? Sorry sorry sorry y y, Yes, 479 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,599 yes I do. I think Bones can play when James doesn't play. 480 00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:07,000 And I think he's going to be inconsistent because he's twenty two, but he's 481 00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,480 incredibly talented. And it's not like Russell Westbrook wasn't inconsistent in that role. 482 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,119 It's not like Reggie Jackson wasn't inconsistent in that role. You know, go 483 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,840 find go yeah, I mean, yeah, go find a backup point guard 484 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,679 in the NBA who both has the upside that Bones has and is not inconsistent. 485 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,800 I mean, it's part of the it's part of the deal, right 486 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,639 And even if you've got a guy like Chris Paul in there who could come 487 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:35,760 in and play fifteen minutes a night, it's the backup point guard. The 488 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,639 downsides of what he can't do physically, athletically defensively at this age are just 489 00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:45,480 as bad as dealing with Bones is inconsistencies, I think, right, So 490 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,719 thank you, Uh yeah, I would. I'm fully comfortable going into the 491 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:57,000 season with Bones as point guard too. It sounds like someone has taken the 492 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,440 baton under the skeleton key because he's partly the army. Right here, someone, 493 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,440 this is a ball, This is a baller right here. Lucas huh 494 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:14,239 right, yes, Lucas noted ball, No, Lucas Hall. Yeah, 495 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,719 there's It's just I don't know, it feels so weird in in Clippers land 496 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,960 right now, right because the backup five and the backup one are also kind 497 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,800 of like we have to wait for Paul George to figure this out if we're 498 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,639 going to be a second Apron team or not a second Apron team. Yeah, 499 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,360 not to not to like go over the point too much, but we 500 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,719 didn't get your thoughts on the on the Paul George situation. Where are you 501 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,880 at right now? What are you thinking? What are you seeing? Max? 502 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,599 Like? What what do I think is going to happen? Yeah? 503 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,280 Just your guess, my guess, what do you want to happen? What 504 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,719 do you want to happen? What's I think? I think that the the 505 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,480 Warriors opt in and trade to the Warriors. You know, there's there's a 506 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,679 lot of smoke there today especially, and and it's it's getting too decision time 507 00:36:59,679 --> 00:37:05,199 for right, And I think Paul if that Paul George has one defining characteristic, 508 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,039 it's not knowing what he wants and Daryl decision making. You guys asked 509 00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:14,599 this question earlier, like do you really think he's sitting here with nothing lined 510 00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:16,440 up? I mean, yeah, I think I would be shocked if he 511 00:37:16,519 --> 00:37:20,360 was sitting here with something lined up, because if there was something lined up, 512 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,119 someone would know what it is. Right, And like, don't I 513 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,559 have no clue? No one that I talked to has any clue what Paul 514 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:35,000 George is thinking. This is not like you know, Jimmy Butler leaving Philly 515 00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,639 to go to the Heat where we knew weeks before, or or Irving and 516 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,639 Durant team up in Brooklyn, where guys actually planned this out right. He 517 00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:47,400 has not planned something out. He may end up having options. Those options 518 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,480 may end up being better than what the Clippers are offering. The Clippers might 519 00:37:51,559 --> 00:37:53,519 end up, you know, left without a date to the prom so to 520 00:37:53,519 --> 00:37:59,639 speak. But Paul George isn't sitting there like Paul George right now. I 521 00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:02,880 guarante you Paul George does not know where he's playing next year. I think 522 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:10,440 we could all agree that the Clippers would be okay with losing him for nothing 523 00:38:10,599 --> 00:38:15,079 rather than giving him a MAX contract at this point. That's the right decision, 524 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,159 That's what it looks like. I mean, it would be the right 525 00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:21,719 decision, and you'd take us. Do you think, do you think, 526 00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:24,239 like in the absence of the second apron though, that that's different, Like 527 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,159 do you think that at this stale may ultimately ends and then just giving Paul 528 00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:32,440 Georgia Max and figuring it out later if not for the essential hard cap, 529 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,960 Yes, I think if it were not for the new second apron rules. 530 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:45,039 I think the Clippers would have given him a max succession he was thirty two, 531 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,840 then yeah. Also yes, if he was thirty two and he was 532 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,880 still a loser, probably obviously do not like it. The guys one of 533 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,280 the four hundred and fifty. I mean, what was the top twenty best 534 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,400 players in the world. I wouldn't call him a loser mentally, I think 535 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:08,280 is what lucas mind reader. We got this question from Andrew that has been 536 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,920 popping up to just kind of for everybody. Do you think Norms staying or 537 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,920 being moved. He's been like a hot name to be added for a young 538 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:21,159 wing, but there's not a lot of teams that need a score only point 539 00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:28,000 guard who have a dearth of young wing talent to give up for him. 540 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,239 I mean, I think that I think it's exactly that right, Like I 541 00:39:31,519 --> 00:39:36,400 think that they have actively shopped Norm. It's just a matter of like who's 542 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,639 really buying and what's the return because I do see it as like, as 543 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,079 much as I like Norm and I do think that he can get things going, 544 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,039 and I do like him very much as an eighty two game season kind 545 00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:52,960 of player to get something going offensively when the Clippers could really be in a 546 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,480 slog. You know, the skill set, it's not like so unique that 547 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:04,760 the Clippers can't kind of cover it with the multitude of other guys. Adam 548 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,039 Normhead. I love Norman pal He's one of the more efficient scorers I think 549 00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:12,840 coming off the bench in NBA history. If you look into the numbers, 550 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,719 Uh, he doesn't offer that much else outside of that. I'm not trying 551 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,320 to take away from his value. I'm just saying, if you have an 552 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:25,400 opportunity to strengthen a weakness by trading Norman Powell, maybe you look into that, 553 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,159 Am I Ron Lucas, No, no, you're not. I mean 554 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:34,159 I think Norm. Norm's a good player. No, you're not a loser, 555 00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:38,480 Adam, You're a winner. I think I think Norman I take him 556 00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:44,440 to the Western Conference finals. You could shoot. I think you could do 557 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,159 better than a to forty one from the field. Well that's what we talk 558 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:52,719 about, Russ. I mean, I I think Norm is a good player. 559 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,199 But but it's hard to find a trade for him because he's he's just 560 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,760 limited, right, Like, he can really only play one position as an 561 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,039 off guard. He's not a ball handler. He's not going to create for 562 00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:05,760 others. He's not going to run a pick and roll, and he doesn't 563 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,800 really defend any position at a high level. In the end, he's weirdly 564 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,400 good at off ball. His like best defense was like free safety stuff this 565 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,320 year, but everything else was just not what you need really, you know, 566 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,599 Yeah, all the all the worst defenders are ballhawks, right, They 567 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,840 just go for steals so they can play offense more. But yeah, I 568 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:31,079 think it's hard finding a trade partner for norm just because you know who's looking. 569 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,119 Teams are looking for versatility. So when you have a guy like a 570 00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,159 guy like Terrence, a man just for example, who can sort of do 571 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,719 multiple things on both ends of the court, can play different positions, he 572 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,639 could fit into a lot of different contexts around the league. For Norman Powell. 573 00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,960 It feels like in order for a team to want to trade for Norman 574 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,440 Powell, they have to be looking for Norman Powell. And and I think 575 00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,280 the I think the Clippers could find someone who's willing to take him up, 576 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,480 getting something back for him, something you know, that to actually like turning 577 00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:08,079 him into John Collins, you know, I think is really uh not. 578 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,199 And Isaac, Yeah, I just know I don't think that that's really something 579 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,519 that's on the table. And you don't think we go with Orlando and Isaac's 580 00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:21,199 injury history and Orlando need more offense and more pop that that could be a 581 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,960 possibility. I just don't. I don't see a real fit there. I 582 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,519 mean, they have they have their backcourt as kind of loaded. I guess 583 00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:31,039 if they're going to go for for Klay Thompson in free agency, but yeah, 584 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,840 I don't know. I think that I think that the Clippers, if 585 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,199 the Clippers end up in a second Apron situation where they have to move Norm, 586 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,320 I think that, you know, they'll be able to find a team 587 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:46,960 that'll take him. Yeah, but probably not going to get the return that 588 00:42:47,039 --> 00:42:52,880 you would need to get to say it's worth losing Norm especially. Someone mentioned 589 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:58,199 this uncompents a moment ago. If you lose Paul George, that scoring efficiency 590 00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:01,000 from the shooting guard position is you know, really goes from a luxury to 591 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:08,239 a necessity. To have Moman Powell in that rotation. Yeah, Terrice Man 592 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,679 would have to increase his scoring. A lot of guys would have to make 593 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,360 up with the slack. Yeah, which is something we haven't talked about. 594 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,400 Just the reality of not having Forge and what that means. Now, It's 595 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,280 not like they haven't had some experience missing stars here and there and having guys 596 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,159 filling the cracks, of course, but doing it, you know, it 597 00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:34,719 took a lot out of Reggie and Marcus Morris. That season in twenty one 598 00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,280 to twenty two took like two seasons off of their NBA life. It felt 599 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,079 like, Yeah, everyone got mad that we had to watch that. They're 600 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:45,280 like, why is Marcus? Why is Marcus Morris and Reggie Jackson leading the 601 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,360 team, And it's like, because everyone's hurt, And this is what you 602 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,880 get when these two guys are leading your team, Like what do you expect 603 00:43:53,639 --> 00:43:57,880 from Reggie Jackson and Marcus Morris? But I think with Kawhi, with James 604 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,239 Harden, those guys can fill in those acts a little easier. Lucas, 605 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,320 how uh, because I like him. I want to get your thoughts on 606 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:13,519 high level ball talker brandon Ingram. I know it always depends on price, 607 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,519 but would it bring anything reasonable in your mind that you would do a trade 608 00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:22,079 for brandon Ingram with I think I feel the same way kind of about brandon 609 00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,199 Ingram as I do with Julius Randall, which is I don't love them as 610 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:30,320 players just because of the the volume efficiency question and the sort of high level 611 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:36,559 decision making question. Right, but Ingram is talented. And so if you 612 00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:39,519 you know, to that point about christ still if yeah, still still turning 613 00:44:39,559 --> 00:44:44,119 turning twenty seven this summer, to that point about Price, I think you 614 00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,480 have to ask two price questions about Brandon Ingram. The first is, you 615 00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:50,880 know, how do you get him? Because if you get him with Norman 616 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,519 Powell and PJ. Tucker, then it's an amazing deal, right. But 617 00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,760 if you're Joseph Rya Ward and you're trading Kawhi Leonard for him, it's a 618 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,559 bad job, right Uh. And then and the other thing is Brandon Ingram's 619 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,840 entering the last season of his contract. And this, I think is where 620 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,400 the current tension is with the Pelicans organization, the same boat that the Clippers 621 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,920 are in with Paul George right now, the same situation Julius Randall will be 622 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,719 in when he's out of contract a year from now, which is, with 623 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,800 the reality of the second Apron, you just can't max like these fringe all 624 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:29,400 star level guys at the same way that you could before. And if if 625 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:35,599 Ingram wants that full max contract commitment. I don't mind the years because of 626 00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:37,800 his age. But again, if it's forty million dollars a year, great, 627 00:45:38,199 --> 00:45:43,760 If he wants fifty with escalating raises, then I probably, you know, 628 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,400 I don't think it's even a conversation you can have. It might put 629 00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:52,440 you right back where you are with Paul George, but with a guy who's 630 00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:00,840 not as good, especially defensively, but he is seven years younger. But 631 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,679 you also might have to give them one hundred and fifty million dollars after this 632 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,159 year. And you got to change the team a bit, right, because 633 00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,880 we're built around two wings who can theoretically be two way players, and Brandon 634 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,360 Ingram puts a whole wrench in that by by being a one way player. 635 00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:23,519 Is it frustrating anyone else watching the Boston Celtics. Yeah? Yes, on 636 00:46:23,559 --> 00:46:29,440 the show, watching the Boston Celtics do what the Clippers were trying to do 637 00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:32,639 with switchability and versatility and a bunch of wings and winks, stop and pull 638 00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:37,440 it off and just win the championship, well, it almost feels like the 639 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:43,679 Clippers are shifting away from that philosophy that they had in twenty twenty one that 640 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,440 has been proven to work and will continue to work. But now they're not 641 00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:52,440 in that place necessarily anymore. I mean, so many things have to line 642 00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:55,119 up right like that. You know, they stuck with this core of two 643 00:46:55,159 --> 00:47:00,719 guys that they drafted like even though it seemed like it wouldn't work at multiple 644 00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,480 different points. They had the good fortune of like that of that Milwaukee deal 645 00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:08,880 and they were able to get a deal done with Portland. And I think 646 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:13,480 that even as good as they were this season, it looks a lot different 647 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,719 if they're not able to get Drew Holliday that easily. But even if they 648 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,880 don't win in or if they had lost in seven or something like that, 649 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,960 just the idea of that philosophy, of the winstop mentality and the switchability and 650 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,599 the versatility where the Clippers that looked like they had their pulse. I always 651 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,320 said this about Jerry West. I always felt like because we don't really talked 652 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,000 about him, at least since I've been back on the show. But his 653 00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,760 passing, you gave a brief eulogy. I believe you said. It sucks 654 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,639 no that I did not, so I thought you have to mention him on 655 00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:53,599 him. Yeah, I always wondered if like he was evolving with the NBA 656 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:58,840 or the NBA was evolving with him based upon moves in the last fifty years, 657 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,840 you know. And I'm not saying he was the biggest voice in the 658 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:06,320 rub or anything like that with the Clippers, but he was a voice and 659 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,800 he will be missed. And philosophies and the changing of the guard in the 660 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:19,360 NBA sometimes can open up a window for you, and the Clippers definitely had 661 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,239 one, and now it just seems like we're transitioning into a new phase. 662 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,559 A lot of that's going to depend on what happens with Paul George. Of 663 00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:30,559 course the first domino here. But wink Stop worked and they probably win the 664 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:35,119 championship in twenty twenty one. I believe that they would have, and they 665 00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:37,800 would have been looked at as the team that like was playing, you know, 666 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,880 a brand of basketball that everybody else is trying to catch up to, 667 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719 because that's what's going on with Boston now. I know they weren't taking forty 668 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:52,559 threes, but just Lucas in terms of you know, five out two way 669 00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:59,920 guys, the Clippers were on top of it. They were. Yeah, 670 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,840 sucks, it just sucks. It sucks that and you know, I don't 671 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:08,159 think that I don't know that it's that necessarily instructive in terms of how you 672 00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:13,480 think about building for what, you know, whatever window the Clippers want to 673 00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:16,159 think they have with Kawhi Leonard now with this extension, what does his health 674 00:49:16,199 --> 00:49:19,920 look like and his age and his declient all that. But if they want 675 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,159 to say there's another three year window here, I don't know that you can 676 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:28,800 use that as instruction, just because the Celtics had the chance to build this 677 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:36,840 around Tatum and Brown before they got the big contract. Like they they have 678 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,880 big contracts, but those guys are both making like twenty million dollars less each 679 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,639 than Paul George and Kawi Leonard. That means that you can get Drew Holliday 680 00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:50,440 making thirty seven million dollars this year and Chris aaps porzingis thirty six million dollars 681 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,480 this year. The Clippers can't bring in guys like that, especially not you 682 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:58,159 know, maybe if they don't keep Paul George, they they could at some 683 00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,199 point in the next twenty four months. But yeah, so I think it 684 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,760 just I think you're right, Idam. You know, it sucks. It 685 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,880 sucks to have been there in twenty twenty one and have seen the tides going 686 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:13,760 in that direction. Uh, and then Joe Ingles is frustrated. And that's 687 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,159 it, to be honest, Tatum and Brown, they're still young enough to 688 00:50:17,199 --> 00:50:22,039 get there. They aren't as good of a combo as Kawhi and Paul George 689 00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:24,519 at their best. They just won the championship without a top five player, 690 00:50:24,679 --> 00:50:31,199 right that just happened. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the hell we're 691 00:50:31,199 --> 00:50:37,280 living in. You nailed it well. I mean, like death of Talent 692 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,159 is pretty well, it's pretty crazy. Lucas. We do have to ask 693 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,960 you a question. Do you have a dip to talk about? Because if 694 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,519 not, we might, Oh, I have a what do I have? 695 00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:51,920 A garlic cummis and some baby carrots? That's what I That's what I have. 696 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:53,599 All Right, we're gonna take a quick audio break and we're gonna talk 697 00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:58,760 about Cam Christy and then we're gonna talk about our dips because that that's what 698 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,639 we do on the show on the off season. So audio wise, thank 699 00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,800 you for listening. By the way, if you're watching, nothing's gonna change 700 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,960 coming up. We're talking Cam Christian dips in three two one welcome back in 701 00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:15,400 it's Clips and Dip episode one. First team shout out Pat Bev episode one 702 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,599 of season three. Here on Clips and Dip under the two one three Hoops 703 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:25,639 Empire, and we currently have our sister podcast on You Could Say here, 704 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,559 and Lucas our boss Lucas Hand don't call him Hand as I did earlier, 705 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,599 is joining us here, the original t Bone before these guys tried to take 706 00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:39,719 that moniker and give it. But you originally when we started this show, 707 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:46,440 You're like, we're gonna call you t Bone, Adam, Okay, I'll 708 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,800 take all. I'm gonna take all blame for all t Bone, I just 709 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,880 work. That was good advice, though, Think of how much more successful 710 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:58,719 this show would be if you'd just gone with it. I was trying to 711 00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:02,119 get all of you guys to go with nicknames. I got some really good 712 00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:08,079 advice on running a podcast network and involved giving everyone nicknames. Yeah, as 713 00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,719 soon as we expanded to be from this one show that Love the Jam into 714 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,760 a network including you guys, I reached out to some folks I knew for 715 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880 some advice, and I got the advice make everyone have a nickname. But 716 00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:21,559 you know, you guys, just you wouldn't cooperate with being t Bone. 717 00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:22,960 Well, no, no, no, no, no, that's not true. 718 00:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,599 We have fluid nicknames on this show. If you noticed the name tags 719 00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,960 are ever changed. That's fair. The name times are always changing Europe. 720 00:52:31,519 --> 00:52:37,039 Now a new name with the Clippers, a name you might recognize from across 721 00:52:37,079 --> 00:52:45,159 the hall. Last name Christy, first name Cam Cameron Christie, brother of 722 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,719 Max Christie, who I've been saying right side of history. The Lakers should 723 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,559 have been playing Max Christie Moore last season. Why was Tori and Prince playing 724 00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:57,039 that much when they had a guy who could also hit threes and was young 725 00:52:57,119 --> 00:52:59,760 and could play some defense. Well, the Clippers just got his brother, 726 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,719 and he's young. The youngest guy that drafted since two thousand and five is 727 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,760 that Acurc. I'm like that he's eighteen. He's young as hell. He's 728 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,480 gotta be Livingston right just off the top of my head. So last time 729 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,599 the Clippers drafted in eighteen year olds everyone else. I thought, like Brandon 730 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:19,800 Boston might have been that young, but I guess not. He was nineteen, 731 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,760 I believe, Okay, an elder statesman. So we've seen the tape 732 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,920 floating around now on X and people starting to get excited because of how young 733 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,440 he is and how beautiful the shot is. You guys can say this is 734 00:53:34,519 --> 00:53:39,320 hyperbole. I don't give a damn. I see shades at the top of 735 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:50,199 his jumper with the release of Michael Kidd, Gilchris No of Michael Michael Porter 736 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,440 Junior. I'm telling you at the very top you can see it just a 737 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:59,480 little bit, that quick release and how high he gets with it. Yeah, 738 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,440 he's just four inches shorter. It's not about that. He's still young. 739 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,079 He can grown grow four inches. He can grow four inches. Bro 740 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,840 Let him develop? Can we let the guy develop? We all we bring 741 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,880 these draft picks to grow right away. Man, you could grow another four 742 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,039 inches. You could grow another arm. He's young enough. He could recover 743 00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:24,159 from that surgery that people. People are getting to get taller. Oh from 744 00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:29,239 Gatica with He's knock. Yeah, they gotta swim. You gotta swim that 745 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,719 big race. Isn't that a part of Gatica? What MOOI are you talking 746 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,440 about? How excit are you about the pick? I mean for forty six 747 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,360 like that? We've seen the Clippers have bad picks in the forty six spot 748 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,480 or around that range. Before. And this is a guy who he has 749 00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:50,840 defensive upside. He can shoot really well. He's eighteen. I hope he 750 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,480 gets a chance to develop in the G League. He has to grow a 751 00:54:53,519 --> 00:54:58,480 bunch, which seems to be a common thread with Clippers, you know, 752 00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:01,639 recent draft pick between him and in Boston. But he has the shot, 753 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,320 he seems to want to be good at defense. And the forty sixth pick, 754 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,599 I don't know what else you're gonna get. Plus you wuch of Minnesota, 755 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:13,079 which is where a mere coffee went, so they can hang. Will 756 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:17,360 they regret not drafting Brownie and holding him ransom like to good that the Boston 757 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,000 Celtics should do. Yeah, that would have gotten the Clippers a bunch of 758 00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:23,639 good will and everyone would have thought that was a great move on their part. 759 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:30,079 Will how are you feeling about it? I mean, I'm like really 760 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:34,559 excited for forty six. I like, I can I can kind of see 761 00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,920 it. It makes more sense than some of the other picks. Still very 762 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,599 I mean, they knew how Tolly was, No, they do know how 763 00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:44,360 Tolly was, and I mean, like looking at his Minnesota highlights, I 764 00:55:45,039 --> 00:55:49,000 definitely think there's something there. Not a whole lot of like versatility as a 765 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,639 playmaker or don't really see him being like handling the ball a whole lot, 766 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,159 but like as an off ball shooter, I like, I like the pick. 767 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,519 Yeah. The thing is though, it's just like how they never really 768 00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,199 developed these guys. So unless you know, Paul George is gone, I 769 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,760 I you know, what are we even talking about here? Like maybe maybe 770 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:15,599 he could see rotation minutes in three seasons, Like I don't really he gets 771 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,559 to live on those dorms in San Diego or an ocean side. That's gonna 772 00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:22,400 be sick, Lucas. You don't have him as the replacement for Paul George. 773 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,880 You know, you know what I was thinking, I'm not I'm not 774 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,599 ready to go quite Michael Porter Junior with it. But when I was watching 775 00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,320 that, not yeah, I gotta see I gotta see Summer League first. 776 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,000 But when I was watching you know, his highlights and and granted I don't 777 00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:43,119 I don't like when when the Clippers are picking in the lottery or something. 778 00:56:43,159 --> 00:56:46,000 I like researched the prospects, sure, but I had never heard of Cam 779 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:49,760 Christie before the draft. Yest year, I was not not doing pre draft 780 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,079 research this year, Oh, casual yeah, yeah, real high level NBA 781 00:56:54,159 --> 00:56:58,719 thing. But the big the drag on him is supposed to because he's so 782 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,519 young, Like is he physical ready or whatever? Right? Probably not? 783 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:07,840 Does he look less physically ready than rookie Landry Shammitt, did Jason Preston? 784 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,199 Well, Jason Preston wasn't I mean, Jason Preston wasn't good, So yeah, 785 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,320 I don't fare But but does he look less physically ready than than rookie 786 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,360 Landry Shammon, Like he's skinny, Yeah, but like Landry Shammitt, you 787 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,159 know, and and Shammit not like Shammitt has had become some All Star or 788 00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:28,760 something, but he was playing rotation minutes, says rookie. And I think 789 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,199 the real thing for me is just going to be the pace of the game 790 00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:38,199 for him, because if he's comfortable making micro decisions at the sped up pace 791 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,960 that you have to do to play against NBA athletes, if he's comfortable, 792 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,360 then the shots are gonna go in. He's gonna know when to cut, 793 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,079 he's gonna know when to come off of a screen. He's gonna shoot over 794 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,440 a close out. He's gonna know when to pump fake and take a dribble. 795 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,880 If he's comfortable at that pace, then then he'll be fine. If 796 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,800 he's not comfortable with that pace, if he's scared, or if he's if 797 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,480 he makes mistakes, or if he has because he's not sure if this SHOT's 798 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,079 going to get blocked or not, you know, then yeah, he's going 799 00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:08,119 to need some time really to develop. But I'm not necessarily worried about the 800 00:58:08,199 --> 00:58:12,280 strength coming in. I mean, maybe maybe it will, maybe it won't, 801 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,079 you know, between eighteen and twenty three, I'm sure that his body 802 00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:19,760 will fill out some. But in terms of contributing, I don't know that 803 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,159 he necessarily needs strength to be able to be playable depth for the Clippers. 804 00:58:23,559 --> 00:58:27,960 I think he just get going to need to be comfortable with the pace and 805 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,119 hit shots, and if he does, I think he could contribute, just 806 00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:34,880 like just like Landry Sharman did. Did you guys see the report that a 807 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,320 few people were saying, if he stayed another year, he would have been 808 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:44,000 a lottery pick. That's what some were saying. I saw, I saw 809 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:49,440 first round. Yeah, some were saying, but uh, I remember reading 810 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:59,000 lottery Honestly, I remember reading something suspiciously like that about Jay Scrubby. Starring. 811 00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:05,360 Uh, where is he? Juco legend Jay Scrubb the only Glippers player 812 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,920 I've ever seen in the press box during a game he was still ju coeligible. 813 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:16,840 He went back and can we talk just for a second about Jay scrub 814 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:22,840 When he left Juco was supposed to go to Louisville and then decided he'd like 815 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,800 he had committed to Louisville, and then he went, not, never mind, 816 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,760 I'm going to go into the NBA draft this year. And that was 817 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,000 the year the NBA draft was in like November or whatever because of the pandemic 818 00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,079 blubbl blah blah blah. Right, so they had a guy who was supposed 819 00:59:34,119 --> 00:59:36,000 to go to Louisville, and then the Clippers were like, no, don't 820 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,199 go to Louisville. Come to the NBA instead. And now they have Trenton 821 00:59:38,239 --> 00:59:44,400 Flowers, who committed to Louisville out of high school, showed up to Louisville 822 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,239 for summer workouts and in August went I'm too good to be here and went 823 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,960 to Australia instead. We averaged he averaged five points a game, and now 824 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,920 he's undrafted free agents signed for the Clippers. They gotta yeah, we got 825 00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:00,679 a type. It's guys who showed Louisville and decide never mind, yeah guys, 826 01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:04,440 he say. I don't think I need that. It is worth talking 827 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:10,320 about just how ridiculous and how overblown draft talk is because of all the unknowns. 828 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:17,039 I've gone back and done rigorous amounts of research on drafting, and I 829 01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:22,559 looked over a ten year period from twenty six to twenty sixteen, and out 830 01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:27,119 of the top ten picks, which means one hundred picks over a ten year 831 01:00:27,159 --> 01:00:31,519 period, twenty five of those guys were all stars in the top ten. 832 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:37,480 After that, it falls off precipitously. By the time you get to the 833 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,039 second round. It is more than a crap shoot. It's often just crap. 834 01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:46,360 It's people throwing stuff at the walls. It's trying anything. So far 835 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,639 be it for me to defend the Lakers and Lebron and Browny, But I 836 01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:53,840 just do want to say this. Taking him at fifty five is meaningless, 837 01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:00,199 Like who bleeping cares the last ten picks, taking at fifty five, one 838 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:04,599 of them is still in the NBA outside of the Pacers pick from last season 839 01:01:04,639 --> 01:01:07,519 who played three minutes that I can't remember his name, but he could be 840 01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:09,599 out of the NBA by this summer if they waive him. One guy, 841 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:15,679 Aaron Wiggins, not Andrew Wiggins brother who I figured out today. One guy. 842 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:22,679 It is so hard and people bringing up all the Clippers misses right now 843 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:25,239 in our comments section. It's like, guys, bring out the microscope for 844 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:31,280 every team. You will find that if you're hitting at like three hundred, 845 01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:36,519 just like in baseball, you're good. If you're hitting at like three hundred 846 01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:39,920 in the draft, and I mean like playable guys. My favorite stat was 847 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,639 from Law Murray that the Clippers brought in seventy two players for pre draft workouts 848 01:01:45,679 --> 01:01:51,320 and game Christie was not one of them. So like none, none of 849 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,679 that shit mattered. All right, let's say several of those guys are going 850 01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:59,400 to be in Vegas, Yeah for sure. Okay, now, because supposedly 851 01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,079 Lucas has a dip, I have to go downstairs and get it though, 852 01:02:02,519 --> 01:02:07,840 well you should get it. This is that part of the show. We 853 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,800 can be without them. Well, so PJ. Tucker opted into his player 854 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:20,159 option eleven and a half mil. Apparently, the current price for dumping salary 855 01:02:20,239 --> 01:02:22,880 seems to be three seconds. You give three seconds in the salary dump. 856 01:02:24,519 --> 01:02:31,079 I'm hoping the Clippers do that immediately, right, get him off the team. 857 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,880 Why can't he be using the trade package because he's I don't know. 858 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,719 I mean, I would love that too, but I don't know how that 859 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,800 works. He just started a game six, must win game for his last 860 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,000 team. He did, he had more shots than than than Paul George in 861 01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:49,480 the second half, but I don't know he opted in. It's not a 862 01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:52,280 huge surprise. We knew it was coming. I hope he gets moved off 863 01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,719 the team soon. I don't think he's good for Bones. I don't think 864 01:02:54,719 --> 01:03:00,639 he's good for Bones, clearly because they both got in trouble right before the 865 01:03:00,679 --> 01:03:04,039 All Star break. Right, I'm not crazy. I feel like it wasn't 866 01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:07,360 a good vibe. Okay, Lucas on his back. We're talking dips, 867 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,400 and then we got to get out of here. Our first guest to bring 868 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,599 a dip was justin Russo Lucas, what dip do you have and what are 869 01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:19,800 you enjoying it with? I have organic garlic hummus and I am enjoying it 870 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,719 with some baby carrots. How would you describe the dip and would you take 871 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:29,679 it to a barbecue? You're chewing with the sound on, which is fine. 872 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,599 Usually have a rule against that, but we didn't tell you, so 873 01:03:30,639 --> 01:03:37,760 it's okay. That's how you know he's a boss. Will got banned last 874 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,400 episode for ten minutes for chewing it with the sound. I think it it 875 01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:45,920 was five minutes, but yeah, like fifteen minutes. It's good. I 876 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:51,719 probably would not take it to a barbecue, though it's fine. I would 877 01:03:51,719 --> 01:03:53,119 eat it at home, but I'm not sure that I would. You're not 878 01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:57,840 saying hey over here? Yeah right? Like, okay, how about a 879 01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:05,840 funeral? I think I brought a dip. Sorry, lot, I don't 880 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,440 see a table to put this down anywhere. If it was like part of 881 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,239 a spread, you know, I guess it would be fine. But if 882 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,840 I like, I feel like if I just showed up with like I brought 883 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,679 this small container of hummus and some carrots. Your father was a great man, 884 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:27,800 Adam. What did you bring for your dip? Uh? Same chips 885 01:04:28,079 --> 01:04:30,880 this time. I don't know what chips are using or what you got there, 886 01:04:30,039 --> 01:04:38,800 Lucas. I got these wild protein chips buffalo style because I got a 887 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:44,559 primal kitchen ranch dip made with avocado oil. There is no dairy in this 888 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,440 because I don't support cows. And what are the brands again, Primal Kitchen 889 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:56,800 and what's the other thing, Max Extreme Chips Protein chip. Yeah, it 890 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,440 was in the eye. I didn't know a health food store for this. 891 01:05:00,599 --> 01:05:04,559 I swear it was just at my local pavilions. But as a ranch dip 892 01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:10,239 by Primal Kitchen, it's okay. I don't think it's great as a ranch 893 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:16,760 conno sewer that loves ranch with his pizza child. I was kidding about that 894 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,880 part. I mean, of course I do take my probiotics just so I 895 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,639 can, but uh, it's decent. I would consider bringing it to the 896 01:05:25,679 --> 01:05:31,239 picnic barbecue. Now I'll do the traditional does it hold it? Does there? 897 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,000 We go? Will your dip? So we have we're zero for two 898 01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:39,760 on dips we would bring to a barbecue because it maybe's a no, that's 899 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:45,519 fair. I have a signature select chow called Peno Dip. This is the 900 01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:50,679 hot variation. It's pretty good. It's it's got some it's got some zip 901 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:57,360 to it. I'm eating it with uh, just some savoy cabbage. You 902 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:04,400 know, my favorite, my favorite Keto chip. It's good. Yeah, 903 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:09,599 I don't know, I like it. That my issue is I couldn't show 904 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,440 like, I couldn't in good conscience show up to like, I feel like 905 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:17,400 this is very minimal effort for a barbecue for me. Uh, maybe if 906 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,440 I add it, I mean it could be part of Yeah, I mean 907 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,519 maybe if I bought several of these containers and like put it in a bowl 908 01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:29,239 and heated it up with perhaps some cheese or something melted over the top, 909 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,360 I would I could feel a little bit, I could feel a little bit 910 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,480 more sure as a contribution. It's a good dip. But yeah, like 911 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,519 on its own, no, I would. I don't think i'd bring this 912 01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:43,239 to a barbecue. Okay, that's fair. I went with I'm going with 913 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,920 cheat your spicy cheecher owns to eat my dip. And the dip I got 914 01:06:47,239 --> 01:06:49,920 is. I'm just doing free promo for the place I get a bagel from 915 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:55,000 every single morning. It's called La Bagels. It's a food truck on Sunset 916 01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:59,719 and Benton. I go there genuinely five days a week. The best salsa 917 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,000 you can probably get from a food truck. I absolutely love this salsa. 918 01:07:02,039 --> 01:07:03,639 I go to a lot of food trucks. I go to a lot of 919 01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:08,320 taco trucks. I love the salsa. I would bring a much more than 920 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,159 this to a barbecue and be the kind of salca whe people would take a 921 01:07:11,159 --> 01:07:14,800 bite it and go good salsa and like getting the chip out of our mouth. 922 01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:16,400 I would bring the salsa to a barbecue. And if you go to 923 01:07:16,519 --> 01:07:19,679 La Bagels, get the salsa. They'll give you ketchup if you don't ask. 924 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:25,960 So get the salsa. So we're one for four on dips. Pretty 925 01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:29,039 rough dip go around this time? Yeah, I mean, like I said, 926 01:07:29,039 --> 01:07:31,920 this isn't bad. It's just not barbecue barbecue. One for four on 927 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,119 dips. Meanwhile, Cam Christy hasn't missed a shot in the NBA. What's 928 01:07:35,199 --> 01:07:41,159 up or hypedne Cam Christie? We have no idea what's gonna happen with Paul 929 01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:44,440 George, but some combination of the people on this stream are going to be 930 01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:46,519 live whenever that news happens. If he ops in, he's probably traded. 931 01:07:46,519 --> 01:07:51,199 Who knows Lucas before we promo our stuff? Where can people find you and 932 01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:56,079 your fantastic work? Oh? You know Twitter? Lucas Jahan two and three, 933 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:59,039 Hoops dot com, Uh, The Love of the Gym, the podcast 934 01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:02,159 on anywhere that you are listening to this you could find that as well. 935 01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:06,760 There we go, three hoops, Stam Will. Where can people listen to 936 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:12,400 this or watch it or even review us? The only place to watch this 937 01:08:12,519 --> 01:08:15,880 show is over at YouTube dot com Slash at Clippers podcast sometimes on x but 938 01:08:16,159 --> 01:08:20,039 that doesn't really count. Please just subscribe on YouTube. You can also listen 939 01:08:20,079 --> 01:08:24,800 to this podcast wherever you get your podcasts. Again, if you have a 940 01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,000 choice of one or the other, just subscribe on YouTube. But we appreciate 941 01:08:28,039 --> 01:08:30,520 you however you listen. We very much do. And Adam is back this 942 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,279 week, so we need one positive thing before we send these slippers fans onto 943 01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:40,840 a very hot ass weekend. Cam Christie best second round pick since Terrence Man 944 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:48,199 and Cam, I am is gonna do damage the caml whoop ass that he's 945 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:58,520 going to open? Oh wow? Unless I love Max Christy, I'm not 946 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,399 a Laker fan, but I could recognize talent. So I feel very good 947 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,399 about this. And I'm telling you, guys, I read it illegit draft, 948 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:13,119 a mock draft or report or forecast that said he would most likely be 949 01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:16,560 a lottery pick next year. That's the direction he was trending. There we 950 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:20,279 go, He's got the dorms to to find himself and his basketball scale down 951 01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:24,840 in ocean Side. We're gonna be back with y'all pretty soon, probably tomorrow 952 01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:28,520 or Sunday, depending on what happens with the Paul George news. We'll have 953 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,680 a full episode, maybe in ten minutes, who knows, But as always, 954 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,000 thanks for hanging out and let's go clips