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We have a really special episode today.

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We are joined by Iraq war veteran
and recent France visitor Jack Mandevil to talk

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about what our relationship with France since
the beginning of this country, since the

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beginning of the United States of America, and even a little bit before that.

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We're talking about France and whether or
not we owe them an apology for

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all the mean, stinky like they're
cheese things we say about them. And

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Jack is here to help discuss how
the French people feel about America. He

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was recently at the eightieth anniversary of
D Day in Norman Dy, France.

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Big expert on the subject, one
of the funniest guys we know. We

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are really really excited and without further
ado today's episode, Welcome to soft Core

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History. Welcome back to Softcore History. I'm your host for the week.

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Dam Redchester and I'm joined us always
by Rob Fox. What's going on Baby?

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And special guest back from Normandy,
Jack Mendeville, Jecille, Jimmabelle,

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Danielle. Ah, you didn't take
my pickup line advice, by the way,

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I DMed you something to say to
a French lady to just drop the

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panties. Oh, I don't.
I was not hitting on any chicks over

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there. I was just eating back
at, smoking cigarettes and drinking espresso.

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Damn it. That's how you hit
on French. There's no time to be

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hitting on women, are there.
Damn it? Dude. I wanted you

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to say it to somebody that seems
by the book though. Yeah, that

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seems like how you would get a
French chick ignore them, smoke cigarettes,

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eat a big at. Oh yeah, you know. It was hilarious.

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Uh uh. Jared is attempting his
best Ben Franklin out. While he was

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out in France. He went into
clean up on all the French ladies he

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was sitting on, like seventy year
old women. Yeah, I mean he

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was. He had the age range
pretty wide. I don't think the French.

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French women don't really connect with Americans. And then he went into Germany,

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and he was just like as happy
as can be. They love American

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men over there. Somehow. It's
you know, your abuser, you tend

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to feel more connected to them in
a weird way. Like it's not Stockholm

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syndrome, because that's a different thing, but yeah, it's kind of just

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you're you're held hostage. We've beaten
them horribly twice, and they feel,

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you know, like a weird connection
to that. Yeah. Yeah, just

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want to make us happy. They're
just yeah, they're just trying to follo

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us around and please us. Are
you okay? Are you mad at me?

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Are you mad at me? You
better this time? Baby? Yeah?

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I gotta say the relationship we have
with the French is almost that of

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an older cousin that helps us out
in our youth. But then they get

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more and more jealous as you've become
successful. Hm. I could see that,

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Like it's like, no, dude, you don't. I'm still better

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than you. That's why I helped
you, because I thought I'd always be

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better than just a groan resentment like
yeah, I provided a roof over your

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head, I gave you some money, advice, naval power. Yeah,

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yeah, now we'll talking about this
because you were in D Day or you

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were in France June sixth, nineteen
forty four. I was there. He

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was there, Yeah, just popping
off German guys. He went to Normandy

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for the eightieth anniversary of D Day. I did. Yeah, Holy moly,

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how was that? That was something
else I said. I said,

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I don't know if I could ever
do another one of these, because of

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how amazing this first time. I'd
be disappointed if I went over there again.

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It was just so amazing being there
for the eightieth with dude. I

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was escorting World War Two veterans around, and I'm sure we'll talk about it

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in the show. Yeah, the
French I felt like I was escorting the

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Beatles around. They were mobbing our
van and like we had to like get

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out and yell people to get away. Like they were handing these guys babies.

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Like I've never seen anything like.
I've been around some, you know,

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celebrities before, I've never seen anything
like that. But I'm almost positive

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you've interviewed every World War Two veteran
that's still alive. It seems like it.

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It seems like it. Yeah,
and at this point, it's not

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all you know, the ones that
they have there. They're not all D

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Day veterans, because there's probably maybe
five of those guys. Yeah, no

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joke. So now it's just like, hey, you served. I mean,

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I was with a guy named Alan. He was awesome. He's hilarious,

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and he's like, I don't know
anything about this man. I saw

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the Japanese maybe twice while I was
out there. Yeah. It's interesting though

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that we brought up, you know, your time in France, our relationship

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with the French. It's actually what
the episode today is about America's relationship with

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France, our entire relationship with the
French. Sweet. That's a good analogy.

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You use the cousin thing, but
like the thing is the cousin.

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From what I saw, the cousin
still loves you. Even though there is

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resentment, they roll their eyes at
you, they do still love you because

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you're still family at the end of
the year's still family. Yeah. So

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the idea of America as a concept
itself could be pointed to colonists in just

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in French political philosophy that would shape
our own who is it again? There

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was one guy in particular, I
have a few Okay, there's one name

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that's gonna jump out to me.
A servant in the late eighteenth century by

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Donald Lutz stated that French philosopher Montesquieu
was the most quoted man in the British

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Americas, cited more by the Founding
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Bible, even more than John Locke
or anything like that. Damn. They

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were the real Enlightenment motherfuckers over there. Huh oh. Yeah. We also

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had Jean Jacques Russo and the Social
Contract, okay, really hit home with

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the colonist and influenced the Declaration of
Independence. Which is funny because they all

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like kind of fucking hated the French, like they liked their thinking, like

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they liked the philosophy, but like
they just fought a war with them.

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They disdained at least the French government
because it was like the English monarchy was

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already a constitutional monarchy, although still
like the king was still in control,

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but like the French was an absolute
monarch yep, like a full yeah yeah,

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yeah, yeah, Like it was
a full on. There was the

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what do they call the not the
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a parliament in France, but it
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that often. Yeah, because that's
where the estates come from, the first

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state, second state, third estate, and that's actually where the terms left

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and right wing come from. Oh
I did not know that. Yeah,

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there was a people sat on the
left, people sat on the right,

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people sat on the left where the
annoying shit libs and people sat on the

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right. Was like the church and
fucking a yeah oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, I just said
the church. I didn't think I needed

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to add context to Yeah. Yeah, and you you see how much being

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out in France, you see how
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on that had. I don't know
if they still do, but every small,

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tiny town you go to five hundred
people and it's the most extravagant you

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know. Yeah, I mean,
and kudos to Catholic architecture. It is

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phenomenal. It's the only good building
in the whole fucking town for the best

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part. Yeah, it is.
It's just and every single town had the

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most beautiful church in it. They
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think churches in France were kind of
like high school football stadiums in Texas,

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like it was the town's flex.
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ye, like nothing else mattered,
just to have a dope church. So

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Russo kind of believed that all men
and women are created equal. That sound

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familiar, well, but sounds pretty
freaking woke to me. An elected government

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by the people would protect rights like
freedom of speech, religion, and those

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elected to if they did not uphold
their duty to the people, they will

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be removed. So essentially, bar
for bar. The Declaration of Independence,

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also Montsusque essentially came up with a
power of checks and balances in government and

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that no man need be afraid of
another. James Madison was a huge monsuscue

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guy. Okay, not Jefferson,
more Madison. Okay, who is I

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believe the father of the Constitution.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Madison I

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think was yeah, the big guy
for that. But oh no, I'm

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thinking of the Declaration. Jefferson was
the Declaration of Madison was the concert.

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Yeah, Jefferson wrote the Declaration and
Adams and Franklin edited it. Yeah.

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And then John Hancock came in and
just fucking just showed up in the fourth

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quarter like I did this. Yeah. Yeah. Not to mention, Continental

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Congress was able to secure money,
clothing, ammunition, and supplies provided by

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the French in Spanish by the fall
of seventeen seventy five through a shell company

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called Rodrigue Hordelais in company created by
French playwright and watchmaker an international arms dealer,

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Pierre but Marchie. What a what
a life? Can you imagine?

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If he's worth an episode himself?
Aaron Sorkin was just and guns to Ukraine

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on the side. We've had,
you know, our Hemingway types, but

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yeah, you know more about this
guy Hemingway, though. I don't think

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Hemingway wanted to do anything other than
get shot at and shoot at people.

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Yeah, Like he was just like
bully, a man fights, takes us

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one square to the jar. He's
not a man. You know his D

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Day story, right, Hemingway's.
Yeah. They at that point he was

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already a living legend, Like he
was already an icon, and the Army

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was like, we're not going to
get Ernest Hemingway killed. So they didn't

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allow him. They didn't allow him
on the beach until like everything was secured.

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Yeah, and then they they they
really hindered his ability to move and

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he just said f this and he
he left. The US Army got you

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know, because he spoke French because
he had lived there, right, he

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got hooked up with some French resistance
guys and basically was breaking the Geneva Convention,

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leading a group of French resistance around
and killing Germans. Good lord,

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and then they actually they actually is
that what a Farewell to Arms is based

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on? That was his first go
around? Yeah over there. Yeah,

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he was just real horny to get
just fucking shot at. Yeah. And

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they actually if they either came very
close to or they did, they brought

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him up on essentially war crime charges. Hemy because he's a gernalist. Who

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brought him up on the US Army
did oh really? Yeah? And then

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but and then oh because he was
there to write about it. He did

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so many freaking operations as a civilian
writer around France that they end up giving

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him, if I'm not mistaken,
a Bronze Star as a civilian, Like

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it's on the record, Ernest Hemingway
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War as a civilian. That's insane. Yeah, so our boy. Beaumarcha

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constantly described his own life as always
at combat because he was always trying to

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fight up hill. He provided all
this financial aid, had millions of livers

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in finite weapons money to the colonies
while their own economy was on the vergic

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collapse in Oh yeah, playing a
major role in winning the revolution. And

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how did we thank this vital man
in our triumph. Dudes like Arthur Lee

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and other members of Congress told him
to kick rocks. Why, like,

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we're not paying you back. Oh
my god, Arthur Lee. Now that

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name sound sounds very American of them. Let me look at that guy's definitely

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related to Roberty Lee. They were
all related if you heard the Lee name

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up until the late nineteenth century,
they were all related to each other.

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They all came from that Yeah,
Henry Lighthorse Lee lineage. But don't worry.

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We paid back Beau Marches in eighteen
thirty five when he was thirty six

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years dead. Oh yeah, of
course. Yeah, so his estate got

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some money. Yeah, well that's
nice. His kids got some money.

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You know, quit whining. You're
gonna give it to your kids. On

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the time in history where I can
recall the United States righted or wrong,

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like you know, at the relatively
right time is when in the nineties they

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acknowledge how fed up the Japanese in
tournament was and kind of compensated those families.

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Yeah, they did get reparations.
Yeah, and even that that was

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still like what fifty sixty years fifty
sixty years later, fifty fifty change.

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But like, that's the only time
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you look at you know, the
big checklist of things that we weren't necessarily

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the best boys on, that's the
only time I can think we're like,

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oh, yeah, we fucked up. Here's money. Sorry. Yeah,

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I mean there was even they were
suing, they were taking cases to the

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Supreme Court at the time. Yeah, for the for the whole thing,

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although it's hard to you're not going
to commit I mean, I guess the

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Supreme Court like half of it is
like, oh, we're going to rule

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on if it's you know, like
if this is constitutional. But another half

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is like, oh, is there
precedent or whatever? You know, what

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is their precedent to, like I
guess, quote like abuse of power in

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wartime, which there was plenty of
precedent for that. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus,

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So they were like, yeah,
fuck, you're I mean, it's

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corpus. Yeah, we don't,
we don't care. Lincoln did it things

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like what the what's the bush thing
that he did? The Patriot Act and

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all that kind of stuff. Now, Beau Marche was only one avenue of

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aid. In total, France contributed
something astronomical like one point seven billion livers

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and ninety percent of all gunpowder used
by war's end. This is this,

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like fact is what makes me want
to slam my head against the wall when

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you hear like isolationist Americans talk about
Ukraine. I'm not saying we owe Ukraine

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support or anything like that, but
when people say shit like you can't defend

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your own country with your own shit, you to day to be independent,

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that we did not. We had
a lot of help, all the fucking

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help in the world. We don't
win that war without French help. Yeah.

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Yeah, it was not a bunch
of farmers that freed the United States.

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No, like at fucking all,
that is a myth. Well,

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I mean people also forget it was
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was actually pro Oh we talked about
that on the show before. The highest

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the approval rating ever got for the
revolution was like forty percent, which is

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crazy. Yeah, because I'm not
I think it's more. I think indifference

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and loyalists were like kind of tied
roughly. You know, Ah, this

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doesn't affect me. I'm right,
I'm fucking yeah. I don't want to

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get cannonball through the freaking face face. Yeah, but dude like it just

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because like, look at look at
lou what happened. We rebelled against the

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biggest superpower in the world and immediately
went to the only other two countries that

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remotely resembled superpowers in uh fucking well, not even the dut well they were

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in an economic power, but like
in for military support, France and Spain.

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We went to the Dutch for money, and we also went to the

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other sort of pre eminent military power
at the time, the Prussians, for

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help with training. Yeah. What's
his name, Fredick? Yeah uh.

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We don't win the war without a
Prussian military officer pretty much running our army

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teach US soldiers. Yeah yeah,
the same way NATO taught Ukraine how to

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have an army and not just some
slap dick Russian backwoods version of an army,

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because the rush, the way the
Russians organized their army is like dogshit

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compared to you basically any Western army. Yeah, uh for the Russian Army

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from what I understand, like it's
so officer heavy, and it's so directed

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on orders and do what you're told, like like like in the US military,

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like you could have your whole squad
wiped out and you're like a PFC

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and you're like, well, I
guess I'm in charge now, and you

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you actually do have the means to
take charge. Yeah, we're in the

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Russian military. It's like, no, just do what you're told. If

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that guy gets killed, we're all
fucked. Yeah. There is no NCO

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system in the Russian basically just about
every firearm at Saratoga, one of the

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most pivotal moments in the war was
a French weapon. The victory resulted in

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the Treaty of Alliance and Treaty of
Amity and Commerce, which gave the colony's

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legitimacy to the rest of Europe.
Not to mention other than a few lunatics

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like John Paul Jones, we didn't
have a navy. Yeah, John Paul

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Jones, sick dude, Go listen
to our episode about him. Absolute animal

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right, But like like I said, lunatic, Yeah, was that your

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episode? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I got that was a good one,

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but France sent over sixty three warships
with twenty two thousand men to combat

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that brought it British blockade and dominance
on the ocean, along with twelve thousand

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foot soldiers, and helped secure victories
in the Chesapeake and at Yorktown where Lafayette

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cornered corn Wallace and essentially secured the
dub And you know why the other American

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revolution didn't win the Civil War,
the Confederate Revolution, if you want to

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call it that. The closest they
got is the British sent them some observers

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to see if they wanted to get
involved, but they never committed it.

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No naval power, So people were
breaking Britain's blockade on us. No one

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broke the Union blockade on the Confederacy. That was what they That's really what

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they They didn't really need the troops, Like obviously you always want more troops,

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right, the Confederates, But what
they really fucking needed was the money

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and the navy and the navy.
And we'll get to the French involvement in

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the Civil War. Oh hell yeah, oh, I can't wait for that.

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But yeah, dude, like and
Saratoga to your point, earlier.

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That is essentially like the Gettysburg of
the American Revolution. That is Yeah,

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that's the turning point. It's more
or less this isn't just some little skirmish

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that the British are going to squash. Then, ge Dubs, you brought

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up a good point earlier too,
that like are founding fathers, guys like

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George Washington had served in the British
Army the majority of his life. Yeah,

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so there was going to be some
built in animosity towards the French,

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and all of a sudden they come
and save the fucking day. That changes

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the whole dynamic. Oh yeah,
I mean it was like the Seven Years

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War slash French and Indian War,
which she was a veteran of, he

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was a veteran started it because allegedly
started the war. I want to I

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still need to get into that episode
about how I didn't want to kind of

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like, you know, step on
your territory there, so I avoided that

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for this episode. But Washington,
I mean the Seven Years War slashed the

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frenchman Nion War was just what it
was called here. That was the First

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World War, that was the first
true global conflict, and it was for

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different countries on different continents, navies
all over the world. Yeah, and

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that was listing the indigenous populations to
fight for them. That flipped the power

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for good, Like that put England
in charge for good, because that was

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a that was a sort of like
exist Like it didn't destroy France, but

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like that was an existential conflict where
who is going to be number one throughout

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the world, France or England essentially, and France fucking lost and England from

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then on through up through World War
two number one. Yeah. So after

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Yorktown, the British soon come to
the negotiating table and the colonies in France

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agreed they would only make terms as
a tandem, not separate from the with

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the Brits. Oh, it was
like the has to friends, We're all

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going to negotiate together. Six years
later, the French overthrow the Purple regime

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burbone rip, and the US starts
to sour on our feelings for these people.

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They gave us help for our very
own independence. Now and they're and

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their revolution. We Americans like revolution. We beat the murders. We were

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so awesome that when they do when
they did that their revolution, they went

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all in our our revolution was economic. Theirs was personal. There was yeah,

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deeply like so that's kind of what's
scared off a lot of Americans was

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the reign of terror. Yeah,
which, oh, you guys are nuts,

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actually rightfully should scare you off.
They were fucking psycho and but Jefferson,

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from what I understand, Jefferson was
all about it. He was he

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was basically trying to rabble rouse all
that bitch. You would get your head

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cut off. Yeah, you fucking
live on a plantation, you own human

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beings. I love Thomas jeff I
think he's awesome. I don't think a

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single like Thomas Jefferson's statute she get
taken down. But oh my god,

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there's some hypocrisy there. Oh but
the worst one. But forget the fucking

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freedom versus slavery shit like that.
The blood of the tree of liberty must

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be refreshed from timetime with the blood
of patriots and tires. That guy never

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picked up a rifle in his life. Yeah, and I don't think he

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ever said that. I think the
debate's still out whether he's Oh, is

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that not even necessarily from what I've
been told, Yeah, So I don't

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know. It's it's commonly attributed to
him, but I think there's evidence that

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he never see. But even just
the social upheaval, like oh yeah,

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like it is literally like a college
professor who makes half a million dollars a

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year. Yeah, being like on
the side of the proletariat or something like,

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Yeah, dude, you are fucking
one of the wealthiest people in the

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country. You are the one percent. You're just cause playing as I don't

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even fucking know what. Yeah,
like you're just bored. You're fucking bored.

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So not Jefferson, but Thomas Paine
actually had his head on the guillotine

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in Paris in seventeen ninety four and
was saved last minute by James Monroe.

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Wow. Wow, I didn't realize
that. I did not know the ambassador.

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Was there a reason why he was
He's a diplomat yet, Okay,

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there's a lot of things I learned
about James Monroe in this episode, and

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he's dope. Yeah, Monroe is
sick. Monroe doctrine nothing to do with

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the mone Monto doctrines. Dope.
Seventeen ninety three, the Brits double penetrate

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France from all angles and Washington formally
recognizes the new government but decides to sit

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out with the proclamation of neutrality.
So France is getting kind of butt fucked

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by both sides during their own revolution
by the English, and we're like,

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you know what, we're sitting this
one out, guys. Technically speaking,

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it was Louis the sixteenth who came
to our aid, not the French government

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that was in currently in power,
which is what we said when we didn't

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want to pay them back. Yeah, oh no, no, no,

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we owe we don't know France money. We owe the Louis money, Kingdom

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of France. Yeah, so I
don't know what you are the Kingdom of

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France now, I don't know.
Yeah, what does his contract say?

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Yeah, it's fair, it's fair. It's not it's not a bad argument,

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it's not. Yeah. Congress agreed
and passed the Neutrality Act forbidding any

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US citizen from participating in the conflict
and prohibited the use of US soil as

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a base of operation for either side. I think Washington definitely had to like

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rain Jefferson in during that time,
like he had to give him a talking

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to about that. Fuck. Yeah, I'm sure he did. He was

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just like head in the clouds at
that point. I do. Like,

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that's one of my favorite parts of
John the mini series John Adams is that,

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like Jefferson just gets like cook here
and kok here. Oh yeah,

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well that's where I based. Ninety
nine point nine percent of my knowledge about

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the Revolution is off that HBO mini
series. Yeah. Yeah, it's a

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good source. It's it's based off
of David McCullough novel. Like it's not

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like a writer's room with you know
what I mean, Like, it's off

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like one of the best biographies of
all time. Yeah, yeah McCullough.

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Uh. Not to go on a
tangent here, that guy has he he

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has made the underdog and because he
did, he did Truman as well.

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Yeah, he he's able to paint
the underdog as such an awesome John Adams

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was always overshadowed by Washington and Jefferson. He did Truman, who was overshadowed

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by FDR and yeah, and then
JFK two like is yeah, nobody cares

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about Truman. Yeah, you find
out that these are pretty extraordinary guys.

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Yeah, Truman's sick, dude.
I love I'm a Missourian though, so

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I have to love here. Oh
yeah, take a little trip to Independence.

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See the Museum. The French,
who were still not paid back for

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their efforts in our Revolution, felt
that it was an act of betrayal by

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Washington, and when the Jay Treaty
passed between England and the US and seventeen

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ninety four, they saw it as
an act of hostility towards their nation.

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It's like, can you bet I
don't know how much the French were invested

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in the American relation, but like, can you imagine there's just this like

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world altering revolution for like a government
by the people you helped in that war.

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You help them get that independence,
and then you turn around and you're

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like, we want our own democracy
too, And then you turn back and

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you're like yeah, bros. And
you're and they're like, ah, we

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just kind of we just didn't want
to. And there's we signed almost with

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the people that you helped them get
independence from, right right who. By

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the way, England was like but
I think before the United States you could

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plausibly say that either England or like
the Dutch was essentially like the freest country

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in the world. Like England was
not a tyrannical No, and our system

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of government to this day is very
much based off of what they were doing.

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They had a genuine constitutional monarchy,
like a representative system that had been

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there for centuries. Yes, they
had already gone through their civil war,

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through their civil war, through their
question with themselves about what are human rights?

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What are citizens rights? Yeah,
they were pretty ahead of the curve.

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What are civil rights? Yeah,
and we were like, hey,

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fuck you Yeah, no, well, and let's be honest, and I

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know you guys have covered this and
we just talked about it earlier, our

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founding fathers and incredible figures. I'm
glad it all went down. But the

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fact is their decision for a revolution
had less to do with ideals and it

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was more economic. Yeah. Yeah, so they're yeah, see, I

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think the economic opportunity or i'm sorry, the economic necessity presented them with the

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philosophical opportunity. Yeah, you know
what I mean. They were. They

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they were like they were well read
and all that. Yeah, they were

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a running back hitting a hole,
right. They were like like, once

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they realized they could maybe put all
the fun reading that they did into practice,

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they did it, but only after
the economics forced them again French reading.

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Yeah, the average colonial had a
pretty nice life. Those taxes really

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didn't affect them and them. Certain
quite a few of them were pissed off,

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but that stuff only affected like the
one percent. Yeah, that's why

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you need ship like the Boston massacre
to rile up everyone that happened to the

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common man. Yes, which,
by the way, all those soldiers got

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a fair trial. Oh. I
posted a clip the other day justified police

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shooting. They were throwing rocks at
him and someone yelled fire, Yeah,

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as in shoot like from behind them. Yeah, it'd be ironic to see

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if you see, you know,
the people today that will find like any

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excuse why a cop? Yeah,
like, but they it'll be interesting to

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which side they would have taken back
then when. So on the other end

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of that, I when I think
maybe it was George Lloyd, maybe it

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was one of the other fucking hundred, uh whatever. However, many there

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was something something get to the point, caused a kerfuffle in the news about

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a black guy getting shot by a
cop. And I saw several people on

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the on the liberal side be like
like, be like essentially pose the Boston

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massacre. It'd be like, see
this unjustified police shooting is what caused the

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revolution, so you should be against
like the police essentially whatever, and I

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wanted to be like, oh boy, I got bad news for you guys.

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That was one hundred justifier. Speaking
of the Boston massacre, John Adams

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sent diplomats over to France in seventeen
ninety seven to cool the tension, only

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for those representatives to be with a
pay to play scheme. Upon their arrival,

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the French officials demanded bribes before they
would meet with any American and Adams

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was appalled by the whole ordeal.
This would later be known as the x

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y Z Affair, which escalated to
the Quasi War, which was two years

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of our navies having an on site
policy in the West Indies. Okay,

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so mostly in the like, not
in the Atlantic, just in the West

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Indies. Just a lot of maritime
chaos. God damn. Like they would

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just like kidnap our soldiers. Yes, I mean that was like a thing

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like forever like piracy. It was
as much about like taking slaves dudes.

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Yeah, being like like that's what
the War of eighteen twelve was over.

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That's what the Barbary pirates were doing. I guess that's what they were really

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Like a lot of piracy. It's
like oh for plunder and it's like,

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no, give me, give me
the people. Yeah, the people is

408
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,640
my plunder. Yeah. The whole
human trafficking, that's not a new concept.

409
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,359
There's no If you open a real
pirates treasure chest, it's just twenty

410
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,799
babies inside and they're gonna sell them
one day. Yeah. Our navy held

411
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:07,680
their own and disrupted French trade enough
that they resolve their issues with us by

412
00:28:07,839 --> 00:28:11,279
the year eighteen hundred with the agreement
that we would not interrupt in the wars

413
00:28:11,319 --> 00:28:15,640
of Napoleon. So was Napoleon was
in charge at this point, So they

414
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,599
finally had a central authority, and
a pragmatic, super intelligent one at that.

415
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:23,079
Speaking of the Poleman, eighteen oh
three, we get hooked up with

416
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,640
perhaps the greatest going out of business
sale in human history with the Louisiana Purchase.

417
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,359
Louisiana purchase baby, So I read
the other Dad, I didn't realize

418
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359
this. You know why the Louisiana
purchase happened in particular, I'm about to

419
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,079
talk about it, Okay, I'll
see if you cover the part of So

420
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,680
Napoleon gets a cool fifteen mil to
help fight his wars while also not having

421
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:48,400
to dump many resources into territory recently
taken back from the Spanish. He was

422
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,680
also pretty much out in the New
World after the slavery volt in Haiti,

423
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:55,079
thank got it, yeah, y, and not being able to cash in

424
00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,680
sugarcane. Do you do you think
his willingness to just dump Louisiana do you

425
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,799
think it's because he knew America was
just going to keep pushing west and he

426
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,640
didn't even want to deal with what
that was going to look like. I

427
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,000
just don't believe he thought it was
the juice was worth the squeeze at that

428
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,920
trying to put resources into the West. Yeah, if he could have gotten

429
00:29:17,799 --> 00:29:21,920
some sort of peace in Europe,
he would have turned his attention to the

430
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Americas. And if he could have
kept those plantations in Haiti, that would

431
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,759
have like churned over yeah, sugar
cane money. I think he would have

432
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:30,440
kept it. But at that point
with the slave revolts, he's like it's

433
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,640
not even worth so. Yeah,
But between Haiti and New Orleans he had

434
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,359
a pretty decent like beachhead, I
guess you could say, in the New

435
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:44,799
World. But once Overture Lilvituer fucking
did the whole Haitian slavery volt and Haiti

436
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,640
was off the table. It was
just like, God, damn, it's

437
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,119
gonna be so much work. It's
gonna be like a fucking Vietnam and Haiti

438
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,039
probably they were, well, he's
doing twelve other things and he didn't have

439
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:56,119
peace on the yeah, on the
continent, right, so he still has

440
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,079
to deal with fucking England, and
shit says, yes, just not,

441
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:03,000
can't do it. Jefferson then swoops
in and sends James Monroe, initially to

442
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,759
get New Orleans and some land around
it. But my dude, Monroe comes

443
00:30:07,759 --> 00:30:12,559
back with the country double in size. He continues that sweet, sweet marsh

444
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:17,920
to manifest destiny. So is Monroe
that actually negotiated the deal on behalf of

445
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,720
Jefferson and the the chunk of Louisiana
and we got is not just the size

446
00:30:22,759 --> 00:30:26,079
of Louisiana a day. It goes
all the way up to like Missouri,

447
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,480
Montana. It is huge. We
doubled the country overnight. Yeah. What's

448
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,359
crazy about that, too, is
is that so Monroe went with one goal

449
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,359
and comes back with like eight x
as like one hundred x as much or

450
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:44,400
whatever. The same thing happened in
reverse at the end of the Mexican American

451
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,880
War. Polk was like, get
every fucking ounce of Mexican land. He

452
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:52,680
can, every fucking thing which went
all the way up to Montana. Yeah,

453
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,599
but so California, all this stuff
all the way up to I think

454
00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:57,400
we had an organ but like other
stuff up there and everything. But his

455
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,400
negotiator, who I do not remember
then because he did not become president,

456
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:04,960
was like, well, I'm not
gonna steal all this shit from Mexicans.

457
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,200
I'm just gonna get I'm gonna be
reasonable. I'm just gonna take the rest

458
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,759
of the contiguous. What is now
that the United States just just several trillion

459
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:15,200
dollars worth of land and and uh
yeah, so he we in the at

460
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,119
the end of the Mexican American War, he the guy actually had orders to

461
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,880
get a fucking like all of Mexico
basically like he would orders to be like

462
00:31:22,079 --> 00:31:25,240
just fucking tech, it's ours now, fuck it. And this guy was

463
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:26,960
like, this is stupid. Let's
just take the good stuff. Yeah,

464
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,039
like we don't need this desert and
whatever a jungle like fuck. That's how

465
00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:36,799
the borders came to be. In
ironically, this whole deal is broken by

466
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:41,559
British bankers taking American bonds and shipping
gold to Paris, France, and England

467
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,400
would then resume their war immediately after
this. Gotta get paid, Yeah,

468
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,160
I gotta make sure everything clears first
fight again. I mean, I think,

469
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,319
honestly, in a way England.
I don't know this at all for

470
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:59,519
sure, but it makes sense because
I don't think England was ever comfortable with

471
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,799
Napoleon being on the throne, and
so they knew another war was coming,

472
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:06,880
so like, let's just get into
it. People forget I'm not comparing him

473
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,640
to Hitler by any means, but
the way he stormed through the place that

474
00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,880
was people in Europe felt the same
time then as they did during the rise

475
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,279
of Nazi Germany. They felt the
same about Napoleon as they did Hitler,

476
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:22,359
Like, well, this guy's taking
land way too fast. Napoleon was.

477
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:25,519
They're like Europe, Europe's big bad. You know, the world's big bad.

478
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:29,279
Now it's Hitler, right, everyone's
Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. Before

479
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,039
World War Two, it was Napoleon. So like, the best example I

480
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:37,200
have that is in Sherlock Holmes,
Moriatti is the Napoleon of crime. Yeah,

481
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,480
like he's it's like that. That
is the boogeyman. Napoleon is the

482
00:32:40,519 --> 00:32:44,680
worst. He's Genghis Khan. He's
like the worst. Do you know what

483
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,599
Napoleon and Hitler also both have in
common. They were previously enlisted. What

484
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,039
do you mean they're just enlisted Jack, order to create a Napoleon or a

485
00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:59,759
Hitler, he has to serve first. Well, no, I'm I'm saying

486
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,359
that. Uh, they say,
And everyone that's enlisted right now has the

487
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:07,519
possibility of becoming either Napoleon or Hitler. Yes, officer corps, especially in

488
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:10,440
those in those periods, they there
was a certain aristocracy, there was a

489
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:15,200
you know, they came from certain
bloodlines, There was certain families that became

490
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:20,839
officers. Those two. Uh,
those two came from very simple roots,

491
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:24,359
and they had an underdog. They
had like a I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna

492
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,759
fucking take the world mentality because they
were all pissed off at shit that happened

493
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,599
to him. Oh yeah, because
they didn't feel respected enough. I think

494
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:37,720
Napoleon was an officer the whole time. I don't think he was ever but

495
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,119
you're right though, No, he
was like lowborn. Yeah, but his

496
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,680
parents saved up and sent him to
military academy. I believe, and he

497
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,480
became an officer because he was an
artillery officer like from the Jump or Hitler,

498
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,880
though was a corporal. Never never
got above corporal, which is like

499
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:57,440
impossible to do if you're in the
military for four years in a war to

500
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:01,799
only get to corporal. Yeah,
we remained neutral, but Jefferson and Monroe

501
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:07,519
took a more pro France stance,
as the British would infringe on maritime rights

502
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:10,719
far more often and kidnapped way more
US sailors, forcing them into the Royal

503
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Navy. I like how you just
I like how he said more they just

504
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:20,119
did it. Yeah. So both
sides were doing it, yeah, but

505
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,159
one was doing it too much.
The French did it a couple of times,

506
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:30,559
like all right, not again.
Enslave my sailors once, shame on

507
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:36,639
me. Enslaved my sailors twice.
Hold on pal but they only did it

508
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,679
twice. England was like three,
four or five now eighteen oh seven.

509
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,400
This is probably Jefferson's biggest mistake under
his presidency. He signs the Embargo Act

510
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:52,480
and forbid any trade with foreign nations
in attempt to hurt the British, but

511
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,840
he then came to the realization that
he was tanking our own economy and it

512
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,800
was rescinded in eighteen o nine us
on his way out that dude, this

513
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000
that's globalist propaganda. That's what I
that's all I'm hearing. This is globalist

514
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,159
propaganda. We don't need to trade
with a single other country. Trade is

515
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:13,840
good. Yeah, yeah, I
know. Madison was made way more aggressive

516
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,159
on the British and ultimately declared war
in eighteen twelve. Though both now at

517
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,280
war with the British, American French
forces never tried to renew their old alliance.

518
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,960
I was gonna say at that point, that's like that's coming back to

519
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,039
an X too many times at that
point. Yeah. Also, like and

520
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,039
we never coordinated any military activity together
for the war of eighteen twelve for the

521
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:37,639
best. Yeah, that's like,
that's like when you've already you know that

522
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:44,840
you've already fucked some chick over enough
times and you don't even bother having the

523
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,280
conversation again, like she should.
She probably hates me at this point.

524
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,639
Yeah, And also like you need
to keep that arm's length in terms of

525
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,360
like, hey, like we hate
youg but we're not with him because the

526
00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,880
British really fucking hated him. Yeah, we were probably just pissing them off.

527
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,440
He was an existential evil threat,
so to link up with him.

528
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,119
After they take care of him,
they gonna turn around. You don't want

529
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,559
to be Italy to Germany's Germany.
You know, you know you don't want

530
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:16,559
that smoke. Oh yeah too,
Yeah, I forget about that. Ye

531
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:20,199
yeah, yeah, like it's it's
good to just do your own thing.

532
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,280
Yeah. So the Monroe Doctrine drops
in eighteen twenty three, and France straight

533
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:31,199
up ignores it as they start messing
around in Latin America in Mexico. Yeah,

534
00:36:31,199 --> 00:36:35,960
they're also still fucking with American shifts
from time to time. We fast

535
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,440
forward to eighteen thirty one. We
call on France to pay their twenty five

536
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:45,119
million francs to American ship owners for
property seizure during the Napoleonic Wars. That's

537
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:51,519
rich. They refuse rightfully, and
when Andrew Jackson was livid about this,

538
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,199
he was prone to anger very easily
told the US Navy to gear up and

539
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:05,039
get ready to roll. Congress thankfully
blocks Jackson's reactionary call for war. France

540
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:08,679
finally agrees to send money in exchange
for an apology from Jackson, and he

541
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:14,280
says, fuck no. All he
has to do is apologize to the French

542
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,840
and that they'd agree to reparations too
much. It's too much for that man,

543
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,239
Are you kidding me? His pride
has basically prevented us from getting a

544
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
nice little chunk of change. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

545
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,599
He comes a little bit more level
headed. A year later, relations are

546
00:37:29,599 --> 00:37:32,159
totally broken off, but in December
of eighteen thirty five, Jackson has a

547
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:37,719
bit of a change of heart,
doesn't apologize, but offers up kinder words

548
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:42,760
to France, toping up back more
cordial relations. Are we still trading with

549
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,079
them at least here and there?
Okay, it's still tense. Okay,

550
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,079
Now let's go to the American Civil
War. Napoleon the Third favors the Confederate

551
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:59,639
States of America. Of course he
does, hoping to weaken a growing power

552
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,679
in the US, protect his investment
in the cotton trade, and have a

553
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:07,800
new ally in the Confederates to strengthen
his own second empire in Mexico. So

554
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,880
the French were kind of being hypocrites
too about their whole enlightenment, and all

555
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,440
men are free when they're supporting the
side that had slaves. The French Revolution

556
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,239
ended with an emperor. Yeah,
Like it was a fucking I mean,

557
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,880
like there was some interesting things shouted
during it, but like it was dog

558
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:28,519
shit like through and through as far
as I'm concerned, Like, and it

559
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:34,159
with an emperor and then like no
revolution that helps people. It's it's it's

560
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:37,840
more akin to the Russian Revolution,
right, Like it ends, it's supposed

561
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,400
to help people, and then it
starts the world war, ends with an

562
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,119
emperor, and then that emperor gets
opposed and the monarchy's back, and then

563
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:47,119
you've got like eight more revolutions and
then you get another fucking emperor. They're

564
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,280
a mess. I love them.
I do love the French. My aunt

565
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,599
was French. I took French in
high school. Jimpobo. But Napoleon the

566
00:38:54,639 --> 00:39:00,960
Third installed Austrian Archduke Maximilian of Habsburg
on the Mexican throne in eighteen sixty three

567
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,239
despite a protest. Wow, I
didn't know the Halfsburgs were still cleaning on

568
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,159
at that point. Despite a protest
and refusal to acknowledge the new government by

569
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:14,280
Washington, DC, and he supported
the Confederates, hoping to allow the French

570
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,800
free reign in Mexico, Yeah,
the Confederates weren't gonna bother him. Do

571
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,519
whatever you want. But yeah,
Maximilian of Hapsburg just doing this thing in

572
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:25,760
Austrian that's like the most inbred of
all those families. Oh. We did

573
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,440
an episode on the King Charles Spain. Holy moly, dude, that guy

574
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,760
was a mess. Was a miracle, well, you know, in like

575
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,920
the way he was like alive.
Yeah, he's essentially just that thing from

576
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,599
Alien Resurrection where they're trying to clone
Sigourney Weaving a bunch of oh yeah,

577
00:39:44,639 --> 00:39:51,239
yeah, she's like kill me kill
but no. Actually, we're having this

578
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,360
really hot Portuguese princess come over and
she's gonna marry you and you get to

579
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,000
have sex. Dude, I can't
get it up. They inspected his underwear

580
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:04,320
mm hmm to see if there was
any come in it. The actually that

581
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,880
was an actual thing, but he
couldn't He couldn't even get it up right.

582
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,880
He was allegedly like a premature ejaculator. But there was also rumors of

583
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,679
ed. Yeah, so from all
the breeding. Yeah yeah, yeah,

584
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,880
yeah, I don't think anything.
We could barely speak, yeah, but

585
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,639
I think everything was just weird.
It was like a broken cuckoo clock,

586
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:27,079
you know, like he would just
be walking along and be and then you

587
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,119
know, yeah, everything falls apart, like it's not on time, not

588
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:35,320
when it's supposed to be. Yeah. So by eighteen sixty five, American

589
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,960
troops crowded the Mexican border. France
pulls their resources and troops out of fighting

590
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:45,039
with the Democratic American backed Mexican rebels, and Maximilian was executed by fire and

591
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:47,960
squad. We actually, uh,
sounds like a fitting end for a Frenchman.

592
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,559
We fight. We we brought after
the Civil War was over, we

593
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:58,880
brought French diplomats to DC to watch
the Grand Army Parade, the celebratory parade,

594
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:02,320
and we were like, hey,
these are all combat veterans. They

595
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,280
all just fought a much tougher war
than we would have with you. So

596
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,920
you can get the fuck out of
Mexico, yeah, or we can send

597
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:15,079
these motherfuckers down there, like we
have our war machines humming right, yeah,

598
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,559
like your fucking call. And they
were like, oh fuck, all

599
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:22,119
right, real quick. Before we
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I just get back to the show. After the assassination of Abe Lincoln,

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which caused an outpour of support from
French citizens and the removal of Napoleon

723
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to third. After the Franco Prussian
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the French encouraged and activated a student exchange

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program with hundreds of US women to
practice medicine in Paris, as they were

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prohibited from doing so in the United
States. Rightfully so, they weren't ready.

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Mark Twain described France as a nation
with no winter, no summer,

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no morals. Apart from that,
it's a fine country usually governed by prostitutes,

729
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sick, that's all. And Twain
would say, yeah, and Twain,

730
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I'm sure it was rolling through those
prosteros. To be honest, are

731
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,440
do you are you going to cover
why they gifted us one of the most

732
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iconic structures of eighteen eighty four.
France gifts us one of the most iconic

733
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,280
symbols in the United States, the
Statue of Liberty. What was was there

734
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,480
any reason? Was it just like
was it purely like, hey, we

735
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like you guys, here's this,
or was there some sort of what was

736
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:27,760
this a bi centennial gift? I
think okay, oh yeah, And I

737
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think it's just after all these years
of or not a centennial gift. Yeah,

738
00:50:31,039 --> 00:50:35,079
yeah, all these years of just
a little bit of tension, just

739
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:38,159
kind of bringing everybody together statue.
Yeah, and they have their own.

740
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If you've seen National Treasure too,
you would know that they have their own

741
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:49,000
statue of liberty. Nineteen oh six, Germany and France had a few dust

742
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:54,400
ups over Morocco. Teddy Roosevelt actually
sides with the French here. Oh really

743
00:50:54,840 --> 00:51:00,480
really showing our loyalty, you know, I think you know how like you're

744
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saying, the fucking French were like
good, yeah, go confederacy. That

745
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is a big, new powerful country
over there, and I don't want them,

746
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,320
like yeah, let's divide that power
up, Like fuck that. I

747
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kind of think a lot of people
were that way because so Germany unified after

748
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,079
the Franco Prussian War in the eighteen
seventies or whatever. I think a lot

749
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:19,719
of people were like that with Germany
too, like oh, bully, that

750
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giant just woke up. Yeah fuck
oh man, they're really efficient. What's

751
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:29,800
funny is people don't realize it was
like the best artistic country too. Yeah,

752
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forty year the musicians that were coming
out of there, Yeah, it

753
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was no, it wasn't all military. They were a complete culture. Complete.

754
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They were probably the most complete culture
in Europe until the end of World

755
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War One. Yeah, we just
ripped it to pieces. Speaking of Germany,

756
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World War One, the initial wave
of US troops on the Western Front

757
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:52,800
or World War One brought no heavy
equipment to load the ships up with it

758
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,360
as many boys in Blue as they
could, and they relied on French tanks,

759
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:02,760
planes, and artillery. US gave
Allied forces the edge they needed,

760
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,519
and Woodrow Wilson was received as a
hero during the arrival in Paris in nineteen

761
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:12,280
nineteen. First president to ever go
to Europe. I believe that sounds right.

762
00:52:14,119 --> 00:52:15,679
It is. And actually what I
read recently the other day I didn't

763
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:21,400
realize is that also a huge fucking
racist. Yeah? Huge? Wait wait

764
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,760
what was your statement again? Sorry? Woodrow Wilson was the first US president

765
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to go to Europe as president.
Okay, I was gonna be like Jeffer

766
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,880
sentiment, not as president like in
office. Yeah, they they had all

767
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,159
been to Europe, but in office
he was. He was the first sitting

768
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,719
president to travel to Europe. And
actually Harry Truman was the first hitting president

769
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,360
to go to Mexico. Wow.
Yeah, I know right, that is

770
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,679
fucking wild. I mean they were
they had their own issues with stability up

771
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:52,559
until you know his prey. They
were great now yeah, I mean compared

772
00:52:52,599 --> 00:52:58,320
to what years ago? Yeah,
it was. Yeah, but what was

773
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,000
I gonna say? Oh, when
we first got over there, when the

774
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:02,039
troops for World War One first got
out there, Jack, tell me how

775
00:53:02,039 --> 00:53:08,199
you would feel about this as a
veteran of a war veteran specifically, we

776
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,320
got over there and the French and
British, but I think more so the

777
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,360
French were like, Okay, here's
what's going to happen. That's German.

778
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,079
Sorry, I can't do it.
So here's what gonna happen. Thank you

779
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:23,559
for the troops. They will be
under our command, under French general's command.

780
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:28,320
You're just just gonna take them and
use them wherever we went. And

781
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:34,639
Pershing and the Americans were like,
no, absolutely not. You can have

782
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:37,000
our blacks. That's exactly what happened. Yep. Yeah, would you like

783
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:40,440
our blacks? They're like, we'll
take anybody. Yeah, they actually love

784
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:47,079
the Black troops. The I mean, that's that's a story with itself,

785
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,679
what those guys did over there.
Oh yeah, they were awesome. They're

786
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,639
badasses. But yeah, for the
White troops anyway, we were like,

787
00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:05,079
no, we'll be under our own
American That's why in World War Two Eisenhower

788
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,960
was very staunch on how things were
gonna go down and what America's role was

789
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,480
going to be in And yeah,
yeah, I mean he was in Woldar

790
00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:16,760
one. Yeah. The honeymoon after
World War One didn't last long. We

791
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:22,239
clashed over the Treaty of Versailles.
France wanted money and resources to help it

792
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,639
recover from the absolute destruction visited upon
it during the war, but the US

793
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,800
thought the treaty was just a breeding
ground for another conflict down the line,

794
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,920
and we were right, very right. I don't blame sorry, no,

795
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:37,840
go for it. I don't blame
the French for being pissed off at the

796
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:44,159
Germans. But strategically we in the
history of the world, we know you

797
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:47,360
cannot you cannot punish in other people
like that. After the fact, it's

798
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,400
only gonna empower the one hundred times
it's gonna make it way worse. Yeah,

799
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,000
you can't make them bitter. You
got to kind of just coddle them,

800
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:57,079
to be honest, like you kill
the I mean, not necessarily in

801
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:58,960
World War One, because I don't
think they were really what are you guys

802
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,039
talking about. This is a great
place end because surely nothing of importance came

803
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:05,880
after that disagreement. That was it. Yeah, but I mean it was

804
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,880
it was the war to end all
wars. Everyone lived happily and peacefully ever

805
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:15,280
after, and we didn't have to
repay the favor from the beginning of the

806
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:21,920
episode. And say Francis asked a
couple of decades later again, I went

807
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,960
to a museum. While I was
out there, somebody explained the second time

808
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,400
around where the failure was. It's
not that the French army was weak and

809
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,400
inefficient or inept, it's the but
the Germans was just so freaking good.

810
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,199
And then the way that they went
into France, they just found one little

811
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,440
hole. Yeah, and they once
they punched through it, there there's nothing

812
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,559
you could do. Yeah, I
mean you know that like once I mean

813
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,719
in any battle, like if the
flank breaks or something like that, someone

814
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,239
gets behind it, it doesn't matter
the whole country at that Yeah, because

815
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,320
the French equipment and everything, like
they had really good tanks. Yeah,

816
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,599
they had a lot of I don't
know how the air force was necessarily the

817
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,559
German Air Force was almost certainly,
but their their armor and their army and

818
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,159
stuff like that was like the truly
world class shit like, but it just

819
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,559
I mean, even the best fighter
can catch get caught, you know what

820
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:13,840
I mean, Like you can catch
anybody. And they did their job.

821
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,519
And when they went to the underground, well, boy did they do their

822
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:20,280
job around there. Yeah, I
mean de Gaulle is kind of a dick.

823
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:25,519
But other than that. In the
nineteen twenties, DC made tensions rise

824
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:30,760
as they believe France needed to repay
some of their war loans. Meanwhile,

825
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,679
we also backed the Germans with the
Dollars Plan, where American banks would finance

826
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,599
loans for the Germans to repay the
reparations to France, who would then in

827
00:56:37,679 --> 00:56:44,599
turn repay the Americans. Sure.
Sure, this genius multi level marketing scheme

828
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:49,760
obviously collapsed during the Great Depression.
Man. Yeah, I think when I

829
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,920
was a kid, like I remember
seeing this on the History Channel, like

830
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:58,079
we were still owed money for World
War One. Yeah, the Germans paid

831
00:56:58,119 --> 00:57:01,519
off their debts for World War One. They did. They did it like

832
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:06,000
in the nineties. That's really I
think they're chipping that World War They're chipping

833
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,320
away at World War two, and
there they'll they'll have that paid off within

834
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,760
our lifetime. We'll get to it. Really fucking funny. All of our

835
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,480
great writers and jazz musicians of the
twenties spent their time in France and had

836
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:20,599
their work influenced by the lives there. I mean Faulkner, f Scott,

837
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:25,199
Fitzgerald, Hemenway. Many black artists
like Josephine Baker experienced somewhat equality during their

838
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:29,960
time overseas, as France had no
discrimination laws in place. I mean,

839
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:32,360
just watch Midnight in Paris. You
can get a history lesson just off a

840
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:37,400
couple movies. Really, you're good
to go. Interracial marriage was not common,

841
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:45,280
but it was acceptable at that time. Anti American sentiment began to rise

842
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:51,360
in the late twenties, with French
traditionalists fearing the power of Hollywood and influence

843
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,920
of New York advertising agencies who would
threaten tradition customs in their own culture.

844
00:57:55,039 --> 00:58:00,920
It's valid. They weren't wrong,
Yes, people do. Americans do not

845
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:07,360
understand. Our most powerful thing is
that our military. It's it's how we

846
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,360
sell our culture. Yeah. Oh, it's even more than the economy.

847
00:58:10,639 --> 00:58:14,000
They're tied hand in hand on an
extent. Yeah, but it is like

848
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:19,880
we are the global culture more yes, because of how because of Hollywood,

849
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,360
and are are the ad monster we
have? Yeah, it's it's crazy.

850
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,360
There are no Chinese movies making a
billion dollars overseas. There are no English

851
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,559
or French movies doing I mean we're
kind of taught, like the English are

852
00:58:31,559 --> 00:58:36,519
basically part of the Hollywood system at
this point. Yeah, but like anyone

853
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:38,079
else, there's no Russian movie do
it. There's no movie, there's no

854
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:43,920
films, and no television shows.
There's no Yeah. It's and music even

855
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,960
more so, probably rap and fucking
pop, like good rock and roll.

856
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:50,800
Yeah, rock and roll. And
again you can say like, oh,

857
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,960
well the Rolling Stones, the Beatles
or what, but that's I don't they

858
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,880
don't exist without a bunch of black
guys in the South in the nineteen forties,

859
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,079
right and well, and even still
which to stick from the make rock

860
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:04,199
and roll. Their global popularity doesn't
exist if they don't blow up in America.

861
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,400
Yeah, like it all has to
come out of America. Nineteen twenty

862
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:13,679
eight, the two nations co sponsored
the Kellogg Bryand Packed, which outlawed war

863
00:59:13,719 --> 00:59:17,239
as an instrument of national policy and
called for countries to settle international disputes peacefully.

864
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,000
This obviously worked as their biggest concern. Germany signed the treaty few what

865
00:59:22,199 --> 00:59:29,159
year twenty eight. Well, guess
who wasn't a fan of that? Yeah.

866
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:32,880
When the Nazis started to buck,
Roosevelt and the War Department secretly tried

867
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:37,639
to sell our most modern airplanes and
equipment to France, Knowing the Nazis had

868
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:43,960
a much superior air force against the
wishes of our own military factories here still

869
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,639
needed time the ramp up production,
and in total only about two hundred planes

870
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:52,400
were delivered before the French surrendered in
nineteen forty. Obviously, two hundred planes

871
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,840
in seven years. Yeah, we
get involved because FTR showing to do this

872
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,400
secretly. Yeah yeah, yeah,
and that so it's starting in thirty three,

873
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,840
Okay, so starting basically when Hitler, like thirty two, thirty three,

874
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,440
so six seven, the war starts
in thirty nine. France is done

875
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,039
in forty Yeah, pretty quick.
Yeah, I mean, that's a way

876
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:16,639
to get out of the pressient.
Just start building shit for another country,

877
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:22,239
sell them your fucking military hardware.
We get involved, patting and the boys

878
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,960
in Blue do their thing. On
the east side of France, and Eisenhower

879
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:30,920
and the Ally command agree it should
be General le Clerk in the French second

880
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:36,840
Armored Division who first stepped foot and
liberated Paris in August of nineteen forty four,

881
01:00:37,159 --> 01:00:42,239
after Patton continues to push the Nazis
out of the country altogether. So

882
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,280
the French are the first people who
technically liberate Paris. But I saw over

883
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:51,519
there that that, you know,
that whole thing that people in our populate

884
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,280
ignorantly yelled quite a bit like theyd
we speak in German if it wasn't for

885
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,599
us, and they they'll use that
in Yeah, any possible way to wear

886
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:04,960
under monkeys. Yeah, the French
are so aware of that. Really.

887
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:09,440
Yeah. I had a probably a
man in his sixties seventies. We were

888
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,800
literally having a conversation with a Google
Translate thing on my phone. He flat

889
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,360
out said, like we when he
found out is American, he like his

890
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:22,039
complete demeanor change. He was so
kind and polite to me, and and

891
01:01:22,199 --> 01:01:23,800
he said, we'd be speaking German
if it wasn't for you, guys.

892
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:29,079
Come, I'm sure like he's a
generational Norman. Yeah, I'm sure his

893
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:34,960
parents and older siblings have vivid memories
of what it was like to live occupied

894
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,800
for four or five years. Yeah, so, but they still they still

895
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:44,679
feel that over there, that liberation. I've never seen so many American flags

896
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:50,239
on the side of houses like I
did while I was in France. Yeah,

897
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,400
the French, Canadian and British flags. They rocked that shit in all

898
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:59,039
their houses. That's fucking sick.
I actually read something just to your point,

899
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:04,440
in the eightieth D Day celebrations or
whatever. H some French guy who

900
01:02:04,519 --> 01:02:07,400
was a lot I think he was
like a kid or or teenager during it.

901
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:12,400
He was not fighting age. He
was talking about how when his town

902
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,840
was liberated, it was like Saint
Mark Gleeze or something like that. How

903
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,079
bombs American bombers like drop bombs on
it, you know what I mean,

904
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,000
because there were German station there.
Yeah, and a couple French civilians were

905
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:24,079
killed, I think, including like
a kid or something that they're like,

906
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:29,280
do you harbor any you know,
resentment for that or whatever, and he

907
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:30,880
was like He's like, no,
it's what needed to be done. It's

908
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:36,000
unfortunate, but like it was like
we had to be freed, right,

909
01:02:36,079 --> 01:02:42,159
and that's so that and that's I
one person that the Germans. The Germans

910
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:46,440
took h The Germans took for France
relatively unopposed, right, Yeah, so

911
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,440
they got to go in there and
have it. They just you know,

912
01:02:49,559 --> 01:02:53,000
they're in charge. Where us liberating
the French people. The Germans were going

913
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:57,239
to put up a fight. There
was going to be collateral damage. Oh

914
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,760
yeah, the whole. Yeah,
they really did get most of the country

915
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,920
like pretty easy peasy, because once
they broke through that line, they were

916
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,079
in. Yeah, they were they
rolled. There wasn't a lot of fighting.

917
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,000
Yeah, I mean, they're violence. But people don't realize we didn't

918
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:10,760
even get the whole of France.
By the time the war ended, they

919
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,880
were still pockets of France that were
still German controlled. It took us,

920
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,760
I think it took like almost two
months to get the entirety of just Normandy

921
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,239
itself. That's not counting other parts
of France. Oh yeah, it was

922
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,000
an Operation Cobra I think or something
like that. Yeah, Sureberg where I

923
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:29,880
was staying, which is about twenty
thirty miles from Saint Mary Glee. Yeah,

924
01:03:29,639 --> 01:03:37,119
the the the big Omahan, all
those beaches that it took them like

925
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:39,800
over a month to secure that poor
all the hedgerow fighting and shit, yeah,

926
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:44,880
fucking nightmare. Yeah? Fuck that? Do you when you are when

927
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,280
you stand on those beaches when you
I went to Saint Mary Glee as well,

928
01:03:49,639 --> 01:03:52,599
when you're standing there and you're at
that church in the center of town,

929
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,280
like it all becomes so real to
you, like, yeah, do

930
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,199
they hanging the paratrooper off of it
all? I Yeah. All I want

931
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,719
to do when I got on that
flight back was watch Banded Brothers because it

932
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:09,280
made it so much more real once
you're there seeing it. Okay, that's

933
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,199
like a huge that and Gettysburger like
my two buckets. That's a good one,

934
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,440
man. I didn't know you were
rocking on the Gettysburger. Come on,

935
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:19,719
bro, I grew up watching Gettysburg
on TNT every weekend. Oh yeah,

936
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:26,760
Jeff Daniels fixed banets when he says
that nothing gets me harder. Yeah,

937
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,679
Marshall plan putting that on during sex. But yeah, we do it.

938
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,920
Yeah, fixed my bayonet. Marshall
Plan was enacted in nineteen forty eight

939
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:41,079
give people thirteen billion in economic recovery
for Western Europe. We also forgave the

940
01:04:41,079 --> 01:04:45,440
French of close to three billion loans
from the First World War in nineteen forty

941
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,840
six and expected to uh no payment
for close to five billion for the French

942
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:54,800
under the Marshall Plan, so just
kind of here, here's five billion.

943
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:58,000
I think there's a reason for that, though, and it was because they

944
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:01,679
knew we were going to make so
much god damn money selling them shit because

945
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:05,840
they had no capacity to create anything
at that point. We also become formal

946
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:11,239
allies again under the North Atlantic Treaty, which set up the NATO Military Alliance.

947
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,079
In the fifties. We run into
some issues over the French handling of

948
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:24,119
colonies in Africa and Southeast Asia.
Specifically one we did not support one their

949
01:05:24,159 --> 01:05:32,079
fight against communism in Vietnam. But
Eisenhower was like, you know, like

950
01:05:32,119 --> 01:05:36,639
we're not going to get involved right
now, but here's some stuff I'll sell

951
01:05:36,679 --> 01:05:43,079
you stuff. Yeah, like I
would prefer there not be communism there.

952
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,760
I actually watched a really interesting TikTok
the other day from some vet that was

953
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:53,400
like, we didn't lose Vietnam.
That was like his whole point. I

954
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,960
could talk about that later, but
it was an interesting thing. He was

955
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,920
like, we had a peace treaty
signed, they did not take South Vietnam.

956
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,559
And we left and then they reinvaded
a year later. Yeah, Like

957
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:09,559
we tried to make a peace deal, they walked off the table. So

958
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:12,599
we dropped more ordnance on North Vietnam
than we did in like all of World

959
01:06:12,599 --> 01:06:15,840
War two over the course of like
twelve days, brought them back to the

960
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,760
peace table, separated the countries,
basically tried to set up a Korea two

961
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:24,360
point zero. Right, got that
done, and we're like, all right,

962
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:29,239
we're fucking leaving. Yeah, fucking
chill. And then North Vietnam like

963
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,679
a year later was like we did
okay, and then like went and took

964
01:06:31,719 --> 01:06:35,400
South Vietnam and then they took cambody
in. Yeah. The president down there

965
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:41,719
that we put in charge probably was
more morally loose than Ho Chi man.

966
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,480
The guy we put in charge was
not a good guy. Yeah, yeah,

967
01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:49,760
sounds about right. Uh. The
French, though, they they really

968
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,440
showed their side of the friendship though, because when we started ramping up in

969
01:06:53,559 --> 01:06:58,000
Vietnam, they told us don't don't
man, They're no, you can't win.

970
01:06:58,199 --> 01:07:00,880
Yeah. Yeah, fucking nightmare over
there. So Egypt, trus and

971
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,440
Nashaw is the sus Canal in nineteen
fifty six and the British, French,

972
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:11,000
and Israel end up attacking. Eisenhower
forces them to withdraw and the Birds aligne

973
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,559
with our Middle East policy. But
France gets a little bit more distant and

974
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:21,800
they say, we're an unreliable ally
Moody. I mean we we right out

975
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,880
of the gate. We we went
back and forth and not paying each other

976
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,760
back and right. It's the type
of thing where it's like, when things

977
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,519
get serious, we're totally there for
each other. Yeah, you know what

978
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:36,360
I mean. When things get serious, it's wonderful. But when when things

979
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:40,840
are kind of like lower stakes,
we're just petty little bitches to each other,

980
01:07:41,079 --> 01:07:44,920
like we're just we're just dick holes
the whole pot, like any any

981
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,199
little thing, we're just like you
know what, man, fuck you and

982
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,440
yeah, fuck you. Yeah,
And then like they call like it's what's

983
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,480
breaking into my fucking house? Oh
god, And but you're in, You're

984
01:07:53,519 --> 01:07:56,480
in the car immediately getting over there, and like it's happened a couple times

985
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,519
in my lifetime. I mean,
I'm sure we're gonna be t are We're

986
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:02,159
gonna be talking about freedom Fries,
right, we talk about freedom fries,

987
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:08,559
talking about freedom Fries. Yeah,
that was the first time in my life

988
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:11,920
because I was like, I was
in the military when all that was happening.

989
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,319
But that was the first time in
my life where I realized America's animosity

990
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:20,960
towards the French could become so vehement. Oh my god. It was like

991
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:25,199
the dumbest thing. It was the
dumbest reason to get if you want to

992
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:29,920
ever And you're not wrong for being
angry or annoyed at like sort of like

993
01:08:30,119 --> 01:08:32,720
woke policing of things or whatever.
Can we just get to it, but

994
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,520
yeah, let me naturally get to
it, all right, I'm sorry,

995
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:40,039
man, I we're just excited.
Yeah, I'm ruining the groove here and

996
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:45,239
I'm hungover that is the groove here. France also sought help from the United

997
01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:49,199
States on nukes during the fifties,
but Eisenhower's like, no, shot it

998
01:08:49,239 --> 01:08:53,279
down immediately. What they wanted some
and he was like fuck off, Yeah,

999
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:55,279
yeah, he wanted they wanted help
from us, and we're like,

1000
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,840
we're not going to try to He
was trying to de escalate the nuclear thing

1001
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,359
anyway, So you're not going to
give another power nukes, yeah, which

1002
01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:06,159
they figured it out eventually, right. Sometimes you just got to teach a

1003
01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:13,840
man of fish kid to give you
fish bro. This French era had a

1004
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,279
bit of a renewed tension of the
US not really supporting one another. When

1005
01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:23,640
we do get involved in Vietnam,
like you said earlier, they pretty much

1006
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,600
warn us like, hey, you
can't win that. Yeah, but they

1007
01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:31,079
leave us alone. From the seventies
to the nineties, France uses the European

1008
01:09:31,159 --> 01:09:35,239
Union as a way to counterbalance the
power of America and work towards building up

1009
01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:41,279
the euro to challenge the US dollar
in world trade. Almost works, good

1010
01:09:41,279 --> 01:09:44,840
strategy, Yeah, it kind of
works for a minute. Reagan tries to

1011
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,039
prevent France and the rest of Europe
from getting their natural gas from Russia.

1012
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:53,800
They ignore him in the Siberia your
pipeline was completed. Probably should have listened

1013
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,399
to him. Probably not the best. We kind of make up during the

1014
01:09:57,399 --> 01:10:00,319
Golf War when all French troops were
ordered to be under American command by the

1015
01:10:00,359 --> 01:10:05,359
Assemblee National. That's really funny that
we got to Europe in World War One

1016
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:09,880
and they're like the come out and
we were like, no, well for

1017
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,239
the for the Blacks, but not
the rest of them. And then they

1018
01:10:13,279 --> 01:10:15,479
get to Gulf War and we're like
they're like, here, take them,

1019
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:21,319
pick them all. Nine to eleven
happens. French secret Service work with our

1020
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:28,239
own intelligence agencies set up a base
in Paris to counter terror operations. However,

1021
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:31,760
France disapproves of our invasion of Iraq
in two thousand and three, Americans

1022
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:36,840
get pissed and briefly boycott any and
all French products. Like you said,

1023
01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:42,760
so fucking dumb you recall the freedom
fries are of America. Yeah, do

1024
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,000
you guys remember that? No,
I used to. We used to call

1025
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,319
print, call the restaurant I worked
at, and other restaurants, and we

1026
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:53,279
were like we would just like order, you know, like a burger and

1027
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:57,159
fries and like that that burger and
French fries and call them freedom from Yeah,

1028
01:10:57,279 --> 01:11:00,600
damn it, dude. That's why
when't people now and I see people

1029
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:01,840
get angry about, you know,
the whole all the bud light stuff.

1030
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,319
I don't get into that because I'm
like, I never want to be a

1031
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:10,880
freedom fries guy. I never want
to become angry about something that's dumb and

1032
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,880
not worth being angry about. And
the best one of all, my favorite

1033
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,560
wasn't even freedom fries, even though
that is by far like the funniest,

1034
01:11:18,079 --> 01:11:25,720
gayest thing. But like the funniest
one to me is that French is mustard

1035
01:11:26,399 --> 01:11:29,720
had to come out and be like, French is the last name. Oh

1036
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,319
god, we are not from France. Please continue buying our mustard. Dude.

1037
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:39,279
It got so dumb. And you
know the thing is that's when America

1038
01:11:39,399 --> 01:11:43,960
got back on their military're weak,
Their military sucks kind of drain, which

1039
01:11:44,119 --> 01:11:47,479
is not true. The French military
bangs, dude. Really, they they

1040
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,920
to this day they are into some
shit. Do you did you ever serve

1041
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:57,039
alongside any me, not like in
a combat situation. Yeah, yeah,

1042
01:11:57,199 --> 01:12:02,800
but I've interacted with him. Yeah, but they get down in shit.

1043
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:09,159
Ah. So like I like the
French are they're at it? Man,

1044
01:12:09,279 --> 01:12:12,399
I feel like they have. I've
seen that they have like pretty sweet,

1045
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,199
like sci fi ass looking rifles.
Yeah, Like the French and the Belgians

1046
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:20,359
just have these like fucking spaceship rifles, like they just look crazy. Yeah.

1047
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:24,920
I think the British dude too.
I remember seeing the British rifles and

1048
01:12:25,119 --> 01:12:28,760
it looked like something out of a
movie. That's hilarious. You're just you're

1049
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,079
just holding your what even m do
you have a M? Sixteen? At

1050
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:35,199
that point sixteen, you're just like, yeah, I know, what is

1051
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:40,600
it now? In four yeah?
Yeah, And I kind of left it

1052
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,840
there in two thousand and three because
you know, our twenty year rule.

1053
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,800
Yeah, I mean we are kind
of like not much has happened since.

1054
01:12:47,039 --> 01:12:51,520
Nah. Nah. They've been great
allies in combating terror throughout the world,

1055
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,920
that's for sure. Yeah, because
they've been to a lot. They fucking

1056
01:12:56,079 --> 01:12:59,600
deal with it. Yeah, I
mean they people forget the I mean,

1057
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,560
I guess if you want to classify
this, there's probably way worse ones that

1058
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:08,399
have been in like Africa or some
or like some crazy country in the Middle

1059
01:13:08,399 --> 01:13:11,800
East or something like that. But
like the biggest sort of like western mass

1060
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,399
shooting, Charlie, yep, no, no, no, no, it

1061
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,000
wasn't that one. It was the
one that killed two hundred people in Paris.

1062
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,159
That was a different mass shooting.
When the heck was that, I

1063
01:13:21,199 --> 01:13:24,279
don't know, around the same time. It was within a couple of years

1064
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:27,279
of that. What the heck they
killed? It was like three terrorists with

1065
01:13:27,319 --> 01:13:30,479
aks killed two hundred people in Paris, just like going around town. I'm

1066
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,039
too American to keep track of every
shooting. And then there's a There was

1067
01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:36,239
a couple other ones too in France
that were gnarly, like the trucks.

1068
01:13:36,359 --> 01:13:41,960
Remember they were just ram trucks into
huge Yeah. What country was the American

1069
01:13:42,399 --> 01:13:45,680
Save the Day train? France?
France? Yeah, Oh Alex s Carlettis.

1070
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,520
I did a scene with him in
a movie, a movie. Yeah,

1071
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:54,239
well they made a movie about him. Yeah, they played themselves,

1072
01:13:54,279 --> 01:13:57,960
Yeah, which is a very American
thing to do. It is what do

1073
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,960
you guys learn today? I mean, you know that I like that.

1074
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:04,039
I like France's petty little bitch that
it is. I like it. They've

1075
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:12,359
never horribly wronged us. We've never
Yeah, we've never horribly wrong them.

1076
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,239
The way you open it up was
the best possible way to describe that relationship,

1077
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:20,800
being the cousin that helped us out
during childhood and is now a little

1078
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:25,479
jealous of our own success. Yeah. Yeah, especially too, because that

1079
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:30,359
cousin was extremely successful in their own
right. Yeah, and to the point

1080
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:31,840
where it was like, but had
like a drug problem, Yeah, I

1081
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,720
had like a drug problem. But
even still, the success was so great

1082
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:40,119
that they were to an extent where
like, no one's gonna top that to

1083
01:14:40,199 --> 01:14:43,640
go to rehabit. Regular friends that
they're related to you, if if if

1084
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,680
it suit, if it fit suits
that. I do believe we owe the

1085
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:53,920
French and apology in general, just
for helping us create our nation. Yeah,

1086
01:14:54,039 --> 01:14:57,680
that was the biggest that. I
mean, that's forever friendship, right.

1087
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:04,319
Yeah. Who's today's Hitler? Hitler? Yeah? Maybe I think we

1088
01:15:04,399 --> 01:15:11,000
mentioned my name? Yeah, man, I really is it? Arthur Lee?

1089
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:17,039
Arthur Lee is a dick hole.
I really uh Napoleon which one?

1090
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:23,159
Oh yeah, both of them are
assholes to be honest, I hate the

1091
01:15:23,159 --> 01:15:26,960
French Revolution to at least the reign
of terror part of its acidine as fuck.

1092
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,840
But I'll just go with Hitler because
Hitler. Everything that we shipped on

1093
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:38,560
France for is Hitler's fault. Also, Scholton Monroe, Monroe's dope, he

1094
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,119
did so much. Yeah, we'll
give him enough crack. Guys, got

1095
01:15:42,119 --> 01:15:44,560
to do a Monroe show now,
Yeah, we do think that's you.

1096
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,800
You're already halfway in, all right, Well, Jack, thanks for joining

1097
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,680
us today. Thanks for having me, uh you know me. As soon

1098
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:54,560
as we ye cut, I'm gonna
be like, was I good? I'm

1099
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,760
sorry, I'm sorry, I'm hungover. You brought it, all right,

1100
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,880
you brought it baby, you brought
it. I love your hair right now?

1101
01:16:00,039 --> 01:16:04,239
Oh thanks man? Yeah, I
hyeah, I just don't. Yeah.

1102
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:09,199
I started growing it because for a
role that I was in and then

1103
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:13,119
the whole project got canceled. But
I just take that. I think you

1104
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:16,800
should just hang out in a park. Oh yeah, the guy that looks

1105
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,960
like me, they'd love that.
Yeah. See how like, just just

1106
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:24,560
watch Rob's kids. It's just it's
not illegal. Yeah, that's why I

1107
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,680
keep telling everybody's like, what are
you doing here? You have kids here.

1108
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,640
I'm like, it's not illegal for
the public place. Yeah. The

1109
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,680
man on the bench shout to Slice
Street Pizza too, by the way,

1110
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,760
because they gave us pizza for today. Oh yeah, and I'm it's gonna

1111
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:40,279
be my nourishment for the way home
and gip and springs. Baby, check

1112
01:16:40,319 --> 01:16:43,800
them out if you're in the area. They gave us some. Yeah,

1113
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,720
some real good za. Anyway,
that's all I got today. Hopefully you

1114
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:51,800
have a new appreciation of our our
French brethren. I always loved him.

1115
01:16:53,039 --> 01:16:55,920
My aunt was French. Very least
don't talk shit about you and at least

1116
01:16:55,920 --> 01:17:00,239
call him French fries. Yeah,
they vented French fries too. I mean

1117
01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:02,800
it's the kind of mean stake freak. Do you know what they have in

1118
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:09,479
French McDonald's, what they have like
tater tots there? Yeah, it's amazing.

1119
01:17:10,279 --> 01:17:13,600
I went to three French McDonald's.
I want to go to I want

1120
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,560
to get fucking drunk in a French
McDonald's. Oh yeah, because you can.

1121
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,279
That's a good bit by you.
I remember when you went to uh

1122
01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:23,640
Hawaii, Hanolu. Yeah, you
were just like, oh yeah cuisine,

1123
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:28,479
yeah, oh yeah, Shane.
You showed an intersection in France and I

1124
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,119
was like, is this in Ohio? Oh yeah, Like it was just

1125
01:17:31,159 --> 01:17:35,000
a Burger King. I think a
McDonald was just nothing but American fast food

1126
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:43,119
chain and it just looked like the
shittiest highway off ramp in Ohio, which,

1127
01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:49,239
by the way, the French from
from there. Their influenced American influence

1128
01:17:49,359 --> 01:17:53,520
is pretty low compared to the rest
of Europe. They do a pretty good

1129
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,560
job keeping their frenchness. Yeah.
Funny and like you heard off the top,

1130
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,800
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1131
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:10,359
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1132
01:18:10,399 --> 01:18:14,600
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1133
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,720
episode coming up this week about Willie
Mays. Was he a cheater? Does

1134
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,920
he deserve to be in the Hall
of Fame? We're gonna piss all over

1135
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,000
his grave? Ice? Is he
rotting in hell right now? Yeah?

1136
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,359
You couldn't even give it forty eight
hours. H guys put for his crimes

1137
01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:33,399
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1138
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:39,359
you for joining us. Thanks for
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1139
01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:40,680
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