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Now one of your pudding. I
got a string going on here, something

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just cause my dog. Something killed
your dog, my dog. We're flying

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through the air over the tree.
I don't know how it did it,

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Okay, Damn, I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming

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over the fence and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over

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the fence. Sat, what are
you putting? We got some wonder or

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something crawling around out here? Did
you see what it was or was it

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was? Standing enough? I'm out
here looking through the window now and I

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don't see anything. I don't want
to go outside, Jesus quice, you

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better Hello, hit the boddy out
here, Quinn on Melter, I thought

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of a bit just about tech forty
nine. I don't know, ez Melter.

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Yeah, I'm bok right. Hey, thanks so much for joining me

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for the show. What you're about
to hear is some submitted voicemails from Jen

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from New York. She's been on
the show before, and using the leave

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us a voicemail app on our website
Paranormal World Productions dot com, Jen has

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left us about fifteen minutes worth of
voicemails here and sharing some really interesting experiences

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that she had while camping out in
the Mammoth Cave area in Kentucky. In

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addition, I found a really interesting
article about some of the Bigfoot sightings in

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Kentucky that I've inserted in here that
I think you might find interesting as well.

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But without further ado, let's get
into Jen's voicemails and her experiences in

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the Mammoth Cave area in Kentucky.
Hi, this is Jenny from New York,

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and I am following up on a
bestige bit I had left previously that

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I had a series of events,
some overtly Sasquatch as I saw him,

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and then others that or i'd say
venture into the Wu territory. But there

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are all brief events, and it's
like when you're taken as the totality of

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the events, it seems pretty obvious
what has been interacting with me. So

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this message in particular is like middle
in time of when I've had these events

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happen two summers ago, And specifically
I thought Wayne would want to hear this

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because he had requested or mentioned if
people had experiences up at Mammoth Park to

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leave a message. So I am
jumping really forward in time to my experiences.

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And at this point in time,
this was two summers ago, the

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end of June, very hot in
Kentucky. I think it was one hundred

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and four and Lovoll. Anyways,
I was heading down for family reunion to

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Cincinnati, and so I took a
week to go caving and just see as

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many caves as I could. I
knew it was very unusual to get a

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reservation at Mammoth Caves so quickly,
but I just decided to wing it and

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go for it. So anyways,
I get down there, I get a

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campsite, and so I'm going to
try to these specifics. The wing can

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recreate the situation if you once to. So it was a campsite on the

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side on the Echo Pond river and
there's a river down there side of the

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campground. It's the campground that's very
near the visitor center. So if you

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were driving from the visitors center,
you'd go past this like general store looking

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place, and then it's a right
term and then the campsite I had,

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you passed the bathrooms on the left, and then my campsite was like two

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or three campsites further on the right
on the downhill side of the road,

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and there was a family in the
camps bought next to me on the uphill

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side of my site as the corner
is being turned, and I tried to

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find one that was as woodsy as
possible, and so there was like a

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whole lot of nothing beyond our site. So anyways, I check out my

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site and I had gotten there plus
dusk, but I really wanted to go

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down and explore someplace to the boardwalk
because I had heard that there was a

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like a school group had a sighting
down on a boardwalk years ago. And

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I found out that there was a
boardwalk or some kind of walkway down by

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I believe it's called Echo Pond.
And anyways, it was like the spring.

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That's what it was, Echo Spring. It was a spring down by

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the river. So I come out
of the campground, turn right, and

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then I turn right again at the
next intersection. I go down to the

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boat launch in a park and I
go hike around to this spring. Why,

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knowing that I have been having these
interactions with these beings, I know

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that they like snickers, but I
couldn't get snickers. I think I brought

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twigs or caramelos, maybe it was
twigs. I hike out to the spring,

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and then as you reach the like
where the trail starts turning back towards

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the boat launch, there's a two
track or old jeep trail that goes from

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that Echo Spring trail toward the campgrounds. And so I walked up that halfway

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that two track a little bit.
I think I may have made like a

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little rock Cairn left the candy bars
and said a little hey, just let

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you guys know, people know you're
here. Be careful. Here's a little

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treat for you. Thank you for
watching out for me all these years.

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And then I left, and I
did feel like I was being watched like

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the whole time. Back to my
car, I was doing the like turnaround

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fast to try to catch something following
me. I got real creeped out,

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and I just like I brought this
on myself, and got in my car

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and relaxed, and then headed back
to the campsite. Now it's gotten,

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you know, dark enough that I
have to have my headlights on. It's

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Kentucky is gorgeous, the usual noises, bugs and whatnot. So I drive

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back to the campground. Now it's
the campgrounds full of people and families,

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and I'm just going minimalists. My
plan is to pull in, maybe read

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and go to sleep. So I
pull into my campsite and the family next

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to me, they can see down
into my site. It's not very private

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at all. So I back in
and open up my driver's site door to

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get some air, roll down the
windows, make myself comfortable and just enjoy

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the happy laughter of families and a
campground. And this family I can hear

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very well because they're so close,
and there's nobody for the spots to the

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like in the direction of the bathroom, so it's relatively private. It's just

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that family next to me are my
only neighbors. So I haven't been in

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the camp spot more than oh gosh, maybe fifteen minutes, and all of

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a sudden it's okay. So the
family next to me, they have I

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want to say, three or four
kids, and they're not very old.

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I'd say the oldest was maybe like
eight or nine, and a little girl

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I'd say probably four years old.
She says in like the weird like I'll

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try to imitate it. She says, look, daddy, there's a bear,

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and she points right toward my picnic
table, like as if there's a

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bear standing in my little picnic area. But the way she said it had

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no fear, no concern, just
wanted, Oh, I just want to

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show my daddy this full bear standing
right there. And she's pointing, and

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then the dad gets dad. You
can hear his voice is not having fun.

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He says, oh, where,
honey, like really serious, and

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she's still got her finger pointing at
my camp spot. She goes right there,

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Daddy, he's right there. He's
standing right there, and the dad

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by this moment, he's pulled out
a spotlight. I got a spotlight,

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flashlight, and he's spotlighting me,
my picnic table, my car. He's

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sweeping it all around my little camp
area and he's honey, am I looking

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at him. She's like, yeah, daddy, he's right there. And

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we're all looking like the mom,
all the kids, me, we are

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looking. This is where I can't
remember quite how close the trees were,

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but it's been like cleared out.
Hey, it's like national forest. They've

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cleared the brush out. There's trees, like healthy trees, but not a

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lot of anything between them, and
we are not seeing anything now. When

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I heard her talk I immediately started
looking for a peeker, like something peeking

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from behind a tree. I could
see nothing, just see that spotlight sweeping

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around. And then the dad said, is he still there? And she

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goes, no, he's not there
now, and that the dad says,

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okay, honey, tell me when
he's if he comes back, okay,

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yeah, daddy. And then about
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and the little girl goes, Daddy, the bear's back, and we all

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freeze again, while dad is like
grabbing the spotlight and doing the spotlight and

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he's is the light on it?
Or did I find it? And she's,

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yeah, Daddy, he's right there. Oh my gosh. And I

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think I remember something about the dad
asking the other kids if they saw it

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and they all said no, And
so he's sweeping the light around, and

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then I think he's asked again as
he's still there, and she said and

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the little girl said no, and
then that was that. The light gets

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packed up and that was it.
Okay, So this is the third part,

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and this is not as concrete.
Obviously, I wasn't sleeping that night.

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I did not take any food out
of my car. I made sure

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there was no scent, took every
precaution for the bear. And before I

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had camped there, like before I
set up, pulled in and looked around

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at my spot, I noticed that
I didn't notice any bear trash receptacles,

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which normally I saw at national parks
and such. And so I was like,

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while the little girl was saying bear, all indicators around me were not

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like one would notice as if there
were regular bear problems in a place like

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this. But I did proceed to
consider that was that maybe there could be

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a bear. I closed my doors, I rolled my windows up. It

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was an awful sweltering night in a
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if I didn't want anything to grab
me. I was uneasy. But that

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is what just is what it is. So anyways, I had planned initially,

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I had planned on walking over by
the Big Cave entrance to the main

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Mammoth Cave entrance because the cold cave
air keeps the whole area around it much

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cooler like it's air conditioning, and
so I wanted to slip over there at

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night and with my bedroll and just
sleep in the natural air conditioning outside the

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cave on the walkway. But given
as this incident, I didn't do it,

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but when I did have my tour
the next day, given what I

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had known from my experiences with these
beings in the past, one thing that

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struck me was that they could live
in that cave and nobody would ever know,

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especially if they were sneaky. And
then there's many entrances to the cave.

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I don't know. It was just
really interesting. And then there's I

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don't want to spoil anything from the
tour, but there's fish in the spring,

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and I don't know. It just
seemed like a good place to be

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a sasquatch, especially in hot,
sweltering Kentucky. So anyways, I did

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also ask some rangers I think,
the next day if there was any bears

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sighting in the park, and the
answer I got know that there's no bears

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in that part of the park.
I think they just I think in the

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park, but I don't think anybody
said not in Kentucky, but it was

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just not a concern there. So
as I was listening to Jenny's voicemail,

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I looked for stories in and around
the Mammoth Cave area in Kentucky, and

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I found this article that I thought
was interesting, and I wanted to read

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it to you guys. Bigfoot sighting
in Kentucky. Couple recounts bizarre tale at

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Mammoth Cave. Bigfoot is back,
but did he really ever go away?

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Brad Jen and Madeline Durant, a
couple of Western Kentucky University students, said

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they were awakened in the middle of
the night last weekend during a camping trip

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to Mammoth Cave by a gun toting
man hill bent on tracking down the legendary

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creature. It was scary to know
there was a man out there shooting a

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gun at nothing, Duran told The
Courier Journal on Wednesday of the couple's weekend

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adventure in the woods. Bigfoot sightings
have been reported hundreds of times across Kentucky

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since the time of Daniel Boone.
What makes Duran and Jen's story unforgettable,

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though, is the randomness of their
tale. Neither says they actually saw a

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bigfoot. They weren't looking neither.
The couple had been sleeping in their tent

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early Sunday morning when Durant woke Jen
to tell him that a man and his

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young son were approaching. When they
got to the tent, the man said

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that he had his own campsite and
the tin had been destroyed, and that

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they were in Bigfoot country. He
then showed them the gun that he had

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in his back pocket, and he
told them to run if they heard shots,

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Jen said. The man and his
sun then left a few minutes later,

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we see their lights approaching again,
Jen said, and as they got

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closer, we heard the man yell, oh my god, did you see

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that? There? It is?
Looking out from their tent, Durand and

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Jin watched as the man shot his
gun into the darkness. Durand and Jen

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said they ran from their tent to
the man to see what was happening.

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The man says that he saw a
sasquatch emerge from the bush near our tent

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and started approaching him. Jen recounted. We're like, are you serious,

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Jen said, and the man said
yes he was. The man told them

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that it's dangerous and he hoped that
we had weapons, Jen said. The

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man and his sun then left.
The couple then called nine to one one

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and hiked the five mile back to
their car. Molly Schrower, a spokeswoman

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from Mammoth Cave National Park, confirmed
that law enforcement responded to an incident involving

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an individual with a firearm at around
two am on Sunday, and said that

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no injuries occurred. She added that
the incident is still being investigated by park

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officials. Though possession of firearms within
the park is legal as long as individuals

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follow Kentucky state laws and do not
take them into any federal facility, cave

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tour tour buses, or any concessions, discharging a firearm in the park is

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strictly prohibited, she said. Kentucky
and Mammoth Cave have had their share of

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bigfoot stories over the years. There
have been close to four hundred bigfoot reports

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in Kentucky, according to the Kentucky
Bigfoot dot com website ran by the Kentucky

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Bigfoot Research Organization. Charlie Raymond,
listed on the website as the organization's founder

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and lead investigator, did not respond
to an email from The Courier Journal.

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According to the website, the Kentucky
Bigfoot Research Organization was founded in nineteen ninety

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to document all credible bigfoot encounters in
Kentucky. Four people have reported bigfoot sightings

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at the park, according to the
site. In one a man said his

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dad was working at Mammoth Cave National
Park one summer in the early nineteen nineties,

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and he saw a large, hairy
creature down on what he thought to

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be all fours. Walking fearing that
he may have ran into a bear,

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he began to slow down when the
creature raised up on two legs, standing

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somewhere around the eight foot mark.
It stood there and looked at him for

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a moment, and then turned around
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In a footnote, the side administrator
wrote, this account was brought to

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us by a friend. We spoke
with the witness and verified the account.

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We believed this account to be true. Another user named Brent said that he

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and his daughter were camping at Mammoth
Cave National Park in August of twenty fifteen

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when they encountered a bigfoot. He
said that the activity began around one am

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when something stepped up onto their camper
and continually hit and pulled on it.

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They were also many other different strange
vocalizations that they experienced. Some sounded like

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they were possibly feline, while others
sounded like sasquatch growls, howls, and

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extended distant screams. Brent also posted
an audio clip of his encounter. In

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a follow up known on the website, Raymond said that the area has been

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quite active with bigfoot interactions, but
after listening to the audio, we believed

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that the moans were feline in nature. Seth Breedlove, an Ohio filmmaker who

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has extensively researched the bigfoot legend,
said that the rule and isolated nature of

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many portions of Kentucky might help explain
why the Commonwealth has so many reported bigfoot

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sidings. If you believe that bigfoot
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that would be one of the places
where you would go to find them.

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Breedlove said that bigfoot sidings occur more
often in the present day, but sightings

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in Kentucky go back to the eighteen
hundreds. It's not a new phenomenon,

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he said. We either have an
unidentified primate species living in our own backyard,

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or we have a myth on a
national scale, he said. He

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also rebuked stereotypes of people who report
encountering the beast, stating the idea that

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bigfoot witnesses or backwoods hill billy's drinking
moonshine is preposterous once you look into the

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subject. As for Jen and Durand. They said that their bizarre encounter over

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the weekend won't deter them from going
back to the woods near Mammoth Cave.

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We love hiking in the outdoors too
much not to return, Durand said,

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we'll be back, but will definitely
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So ness the woo part, Oh
no, probably like a month goes

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by or so. And I have
a friend who's an intuitive. She can

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do some animal communication, like if
she's got a good connection with something or

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somebody, she can be very intuitive
and enlightening and she does mediumship. And

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she grew up with a family of
sasquatches by her land in Montana when she

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was a kid, so she's got
lots of great stories. But anyways,

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so I was talking with her and
I mentioned this incident and I was like,

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was that a bear? And she's, oh, no, it was

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not. I was like, I
don't understand, like why would the sasquatch

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come up there, like around the
kids and everything. And she just said,

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he just wanted to let you know
that he knew it was you that

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left the treats and that was it. And neither of us have any explanation

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at this point of why some people
see them and some don't, And I

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will recount other instances and other recordings
that this is not the first time it's

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happened to me. Where I'm with
multiple people and one of us sees the

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Sasquatch and the others don't, or
two of us see the Sasquatch and the

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others don't. No explanation. I
have some explanation for it. Whether that's

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the truth, I can't say.
But anyways, that's the end. Thank

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you, and have a good day. They say you don't gotta go home,

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but you can't stay, and I
don't want to be alone. We're

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all happened trying to try that,
try everything. Call me right back,

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right back, Joy for me,
Joy, stay right there, coming right

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away. Consiside still, consisssid instill
start says side inside side side stay still

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say Also games, games, stayss
spies and pens, fuss and fences,