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Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's
Not Metal and welcome to another episode of

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hyper Blast, our weekly rock and
heavy metal news show where we let you

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know everything that is going on in
those particular realms. My name is Parenheish

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joining me today. It's just Sam
diggonon. Hello you all right. It

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feels like, you know, when
you just chatted a couple of days ago

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as we were finishing off Patreon stuff. But yeah, I mean I've been

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You've been off on travels all around
seeing Yeah. So the first part this

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episode is as I was at a
festival at the weekend, and I guess

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it's it's not high profile enough of
festival really to really give the kind of

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whole, you know, full weekend
break review. Yeah, but I am

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going to go over, you know, a bunch of the most best interesting

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stuff I saw. I was in
London, hear about this the details of

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this underworld set that what means of
it in general. You know. I

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went to London for the weekend,
so I was, you know, cramming

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in lots of work and stuff around
it with what we've like you were just

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alluding to with the patroon and everything. But I saw some movies. I

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saw The Iron Claw, I saw
June Part two, good movies. Do

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you understand why how that that that
movie led to the rush pilling? Yeah,

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but also I was so sad at
the end. It didn't make me

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feel like rushed for you whiplash of
like everything up to that. Tom sawyer

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bit being like, dude, rock
wrestling is the best thing ever, and

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then it's like, oh my god, wrestling is like hell yeah. I

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saw the big big sand Worm,
the worm Drinks would say, saw that

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on the big seventy millimeter only in
Leicester Square, and it was like,

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I'm getting shaken every time the woman's
going hey yeah. I had a trek

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across London to go find like an
Imax screen to do that. I might

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guesae it again before n aparm Deaf
this weekend, you know, fit the

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stuff in what I was at.
The event I was at was a little

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festival called Celestial Darkness Festival, which
is something that has just popped up and

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it's in London and it's a kind
of an offshoot, I guess, of

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something that's been happening for the last
couple of years. It's the same promoters.

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Do you know about Cosmic Void Festival. No, that's not actually I

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would. I know there's been a
few of these sort of festivals properly,

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yeah, London. No, that's
not what I was familiar with. Yeah,

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Cosmic Void popped up. I think
the first one might have been twenty

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twenty two perhaps, and it's in
London. The same deal as a lot

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these festivals where it's like a cross
the electric ballroom and the other world and

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I think, you know there's like
Incineration Fest and that's yeah, which you

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Knowcineration. When I went it used
the roundhouse. This was just like you

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know ballroom of the because it goes
like UK death Theft was when when we

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went in that kind of thing.
The Cosmic Void pops up and it's like

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a proper full on cult black metal
festival and Celes Your Darkness is again,

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like I said, the same like
company. And they they basically they they

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put on like a second Cosmic Void
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one happens, which was a kind
of insane thing to do because you know,

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it's a it's a niche style of
music. The kind of thing we

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were going for it was, it's
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Cosmic Void is like a black metal
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of things you get in Norway,
like Beyond the Gates and you know,

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those kind of things, but on
a smaller level. So that's your darkness

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was like I guess, like Cosmic
Void, but a bit Gothia and a

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bit kind of you know, more
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I don't say, kind of like
like a bit of a bend of

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like the artsier side of black metal
just can like slightly avant garde touch,

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yeah, road Bernie a little bit
on like a tiny little scale, and

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yeah, I guess, you know, maybe the it's certainly it's the smallest

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in attendance festival I have ever attended
because it again literally just across the Electric

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Bore room in the Underworld, no
clashes, so they had to cap it

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at whatever the underworld size was,
and it didn't sell that out. And

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it's like, at what point does
a festival just become a small gathering?

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You know, like there was none
of that sense of if you ever go

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to like Desert Fest or something,
which is again in the same you know,

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collection of venues, it has that
thing where you're walking around London and

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around Camden and you can see everyone. You know, it's like you can

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tell the fest was going on because
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I mean death Fest was a bit
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properly like if you were walking on
Camden, you probably wouldn't know there was

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an event going on. You just
see the odd person and a black metal

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T shirt walking back and forth between
the Underworld and the ballroom. So it

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was really, you know, it
was a strange little thing, and I

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guess, you know, there was
there were certain things that happened obviously in

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the ballroom, the larger of the
two where it was like, yeah,

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this is like minuscule for what is
apparently, you know, a festival.

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But I did, you know again
seeing niche things. I saw some really

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cool stuff. There was enough on
there that I like really wanted to see

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to make sure I you know,
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was a three day event. The
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was just one venue in the the
two Islington Academy, uh, and that

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was across in a different part of
London. Like yeah, it is Linton

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to Canada isn't too far, but
like, yeah, I had to get

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the tube to that one. But
that was again just the one venue that

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was the that basically an evening event
that was headline by Primordial, So going

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I'm guessing sure. Yeah. A
couple of times before that was a band

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called a Doorderdu which is a there
were a kind of an offshoot band of

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this brilliant Romanian black metal band called
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But seeing Door today was pretty cool
and Primordial as you say, you

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know, certainly if you if you've
got Primordial to headline a festival, I

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probably will try and try and go
along. And it was the first time

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I'd seen Prime Ordial in a bit
over four years, like pre COVID,

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and it used to be a thing
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tens. I'd have a yearly date, like a yearly little jaunt to London

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to see Primordial, whether it were
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I've seen them do the Easington Assembly
hallor whatever. It was like a yearly

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event. I'll go and see my
Primordial headline show. And it had been

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a long time since I've seen them, but you know, comparatively because of

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COVID and everything, and it was
just a lovely again getting back in touch

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with the band, who you could
well say are my favorite live band just

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in terms of reliably being incredible.
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I would have liked longer. I
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deals with like club nights and stuff
going on afterwards, so ended pretty early

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and with Primordia that basically meant eight
songs, which also they were basically did

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all like up tempo songs like I
know when we were listening to that new

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album and you were like, parts
of these are like bangers, and parts

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of these are a little more kind
of moody, and you know, take

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their time. The set was basically
just like, yeah, we're just gonna

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do only the fucking fist in the
air songs and the new album. Yeah,

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I think it was. The three
of the eight songs were so decent,

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Shine because like their lengthy pieces,
like yeah, like I said,

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eight songs all within like the seven
to eight minute range, and of I

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like it was the title track how
It Ends, which is fucking amazing,

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as we've said, a few times
Victoria as a thousands Father defeats an Orphan,

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which we end another big song,
and it was a We Shall Serve,

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which is one of the more kind
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on that record, And they came
out and open with as Rome Burns,

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which is off an album that you
will not have heard right now, but

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one day you will, because we
will certainly do it. Want album's like

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at one point they're like their their
biggest album, has this incredible fucking live

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moment with this kind of chanted like
sing sing sing to the slave moments like

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every it's always a moment of any
primordial set and coming opening with that and

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then immediately how it ends fucking brilliant, and I was just like again so

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won over by the proper semi spontaneous
live energy of it, where it felt

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like, you know, when Allen
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talking to the crowd and there's there's
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is what he's said, you know, the same moves or whatever, even

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like when he's saying he would just
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and kind of you know, kind
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really like intense movements and you know
and responding to what you know, that

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crowd is kind of bringing. My
favorite moment was there was some guy in

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the crowd who was like chant,
who was shouting, and he shouted for

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this song fweel Assa, which is
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from like nineteen ninety five, which
they don't often. I mean, it

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would have been cool for them to
play that because I've never seen him do

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that. But he was like,
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from the first song from the first
album. I'll tell you what, We'll

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do a new one. I went
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yeah, I mean like even down
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like like the bass came like unplugged
at one point and we had like this

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fucking insane like drone version of the
songs, but like, yeah, it

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was kind of fed into this.
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So great to see them again after
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were the full you know, Camden
back and forth deal, and in terms

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of like some of the best stuff
I saw there, I guess the second

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day was the thing that the first
thing I saw, one of the most

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unexpectedly calamitous thing it was about I
hadn't necessarily intended on going and seeing,

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right. I turned up at the
time when they were about to go and

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play, and I feel like I
shouldn't even name them because it feels like

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beating a like a tiny you know, like a no name band. But

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it's a bound you'd flown over from
Mexico. So I was like, they've

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made the effort to come from like
Mexico City. I'll go and you know,

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see what's going on here. I
walked up to the Underworld and Ryan

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de Fraitus was standing outside of the
Underworld, and I was like, oh,

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hey, what are you doing.
Turned out he was there just for

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that day to do to basically working
in the Underworld, and we're like,

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okay, cool. I had a
lot of chat caught up, went inside

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the venue. I started watching this
first band, and within five minutes my

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phone was blowing up of Ryan somewhere
else in the Underworld working basically be like,

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what is going on? I'm so
scared what is happening? Because basically

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it was two The band was entirely
comprised of two guitarists, one of whom

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was singing in a way that was
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the drums and everything else was a
backing track, and it just felt like

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every single thing was not together.
It's like this backing track that was behind

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them, they were not playing in
time with it. The two guitarists,

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it was impossible to tell what they
were actually playing because the guitars were like

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it was like, are these out
of tune? Are these even unlike plugged

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in? Like one of them was
just this woman who just like she was

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kind of noodling, but you couldn't
make out anything she was doing. It

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was so fucking off putting just at
them starting and being hit by this wall

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of just like you know, there's
like those like mean video of the Shreds

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videos of like this guy who's like
made songs just every element be out of

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time in attitude and everything. It
was exactly like one of those, and

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I'm so again there was like twenty
to thirty people in the underworld watching this

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because it was you know, the
yeah yeah, a not well sold thing,

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and it feels like this really strange
special moment of like that story lives

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with me because there weren't many people
there to see it. Like, thank

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god Ryan was there so I can
have someone to share that with and not

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just be like, did I imagine
how insanely like car crash this was?

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But honestly it might be one of
the most just like poorly conveyed put together

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live performances I've ever seen. It
was fucking nuts, and that again is

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a worth my ticket money to have
that story to remember other things, you

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know, were good. So this
band ad Nauseum, who were like a

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fucking horrible dissonant like technical death metal
band, it's exactly the thing that is

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totally your nightmare like just like like
imagine Imperio triumphant, but without all the

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kind of the extra instrumentation, just
the death metal like. But that that

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record they put a couple of years
ago got very well reviewed, and I

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think Elliott was into it, so
it was I think again, a lot

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of these things were because it's a
you know, they booked lots of like

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UK debuts and UK exclusives and stuff
for like underground cool bands who like,

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it's not going to sell a lot
of tickets, yeah, but there will

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be to go really appreciate it.
Yeah, Like so it was like cool

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in that sense to see some of
these things. And one of the things

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to me was this band Chapel of
Disease. So their new record came out

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three or four weeks got a shouted
out in a hyperblast. But I've been

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fucking rinsing it. I absolutely love
it, and seeing there was amazing.

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It's kind of, you know,
full on like they've done a tribulation of

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kind of starting off as a death
metal band and becoming something else, and

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now they just have these all of
the like insane brilliant seventies rock guitar solos

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and stuff. Like the bassist looks
exactly like he's like he looks like he's

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from the Iron Claw, you know, like he pulled him out of the

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seventies. He's got that kind of
like mustache and really brilliant and energizing Save

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Read who area you know, long
running Norwegian black metal band. I was

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having a conversation with a couple of
people about kind of like I've ever met

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a hardcore read fan, like in
the way that obviously you know the Norwegian

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black metal bands that you will kind
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give their lives. Those bands.
I've never met that guy who was like

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pre ordering every single read album.
They must be out there, but I

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don't know who they are, but
they they used to be in this band

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called Windier, and they were because
they were doing like this anniversary like thirty

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year set that includes that window of
time. They did like a couple of

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Windier songs. That was cool to
see those again classic stuff. So or

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A Noir who are a like full
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metal, you know if you I've
seen the name around on them, like

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yeah times again. Men have some
guys who like some in some other like

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Norwegian blackmot bands and stuff, but
that's they're kind of like full on,

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you know, Motorhead, black thrashy
type project, very very fun, live,

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very very entertaining. Like you know, he comes out as like we

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are aor A Noir, the ugliest
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the stage pattern from him was fucking
sensational. It was kind of that thing

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where like I couldn't tell if he
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kind of acting I'm drunk. But
every song it was like this one is

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about hell. I think we've got
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about hell and every song or something
like that. And then they fucking covered

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like a deep Slayer pull from the
first album. And it was like I

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was talking to someone when they started
playing it, and then I recognized the

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rift, and I was like,
oh, holy shit, hang on,

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and you know a Slayer cover that
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know that era Slayer was fucking wicked. So they were really really fun in

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that sense. Satin Alia Temple,
who I've mentioned again on a hyper blasts

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recently, put an album fucking just
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know again former members of In Solitude
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were like they were the last band
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and they went like fifteen twenty minutes
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of like grinding out these fucking super
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rift. So that was quite a
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that day was this band Imperium,
which again they're a band who I think

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Album Club recently because they were from
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influential, sort of folky doom metal
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who had never ever played here.
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like that doesn't sell a lot of
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been forty fifty people there who have
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think. I'm you know, I'm
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was quite casual, Like, again
it's a bit of a curio, I'm

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guessing, yeah, a curio for
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going so long seeing their first UK
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I spoke to someone afterwards who was
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yeah, that was amazing. Like
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it was, you know, cool
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kind of stuff booked. And then
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the earlier highlights. There's this band
wolven Nest who do like this kind of

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like the commissioned pieces and stuff they
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I like they're they're like a folky
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this this singer at the front who
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and it's like full on like droney, you know, psychedelic kind of folky

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black metal. And I sat up
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one and had a nice little kind
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played later that day. The other things

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that I saw were I saw this
band Esoteric, who are a funeral doom

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band who are your worst nightmare where
if they I think we've alluded to them

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before because you know when you've kind
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whatever a bit too much. It's
like Esoteric make a hab look like minor

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threat. Like like Esoteric, they're
like a final notes can they play in

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a minute? Like yeah, note
in a minute? They were doing They

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had like a forty five minute set
and their hours. Their albums like an

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hour forty five minutes long, Like
I think I watched about half an hour,

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and I think I saw nearly two
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seen them before. And my favorite
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has a Brittany mic. So oh
that's so. That was that was so

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it's just like you know, Funeral
Dooms singer like playing guitar, just walking

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around the stage being like with this
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you can see them. Tribulation were
obviously another one of the main things was

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like you've but Tribulation I'm gonna go
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the Bloodstock set last year, except
it was inside, so it you know,

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fit kind of the the vibe or
yeah, just gloomy and you know,

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you guys know how I feel about
that band. They were fucking brilliant,

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amazing, you know, like watching
the kind of reanimated court sort of

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the seventies rock band, where like
they do like synchronized moves and stuff,

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and like the very last note of
the set, like Jahannas will like stand

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on the drum riser and then jump
off at the end. But they're doing

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like, you know, full on, you know, fucking necrotic, crypt

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ghoul type songs. I've desperate seen
to do a headline show. I've never

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seen them headline. I've seen them
I think three times in the past,

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like you know, however many years, but they always come over just for

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support slots or a festival, and
they've got too many brilliant songs for me

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to feel completely contented by forty five
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But they were brilliant and everything they
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who's the new guitarist, I think
I might have said this before again on

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the Bloodstock review last year, but
he's he kind of is like the flamboyant

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one in the band in a similar
way who Jonathan, who he replaced,

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was, but in a different way. Where Jonathan was very kind of sort

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of effeminate and you know, kind
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sort of flamboyant way, whereas Joseph
is a bit more like a kind of

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again like a seventies rock kind of
guy that he will like get people pump

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in their fists and that kind of
thing. So it's it's a different energy,

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but it is still an energy that
contributes to the live performance. It's

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all this band Dolt, which again
like the most rob burn thing you can

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imagine, like really like heavy gothy, I guess the kind of thing that

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again differentiates this particular thing from what
they do at Cosmic Void. But that

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was interesting. And then after tribulation
on the ballroom stage, a brilliant one

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two booking was Goblin because you know
that those kind of like progressive horror scores

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and stuff like that a lot of
what feeds into and it's funny Goblin.

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I've seen them three times and they've
they've just been adopted by extreme metal festivals.

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It's like there are seventies you know, horror score progressive saying like prog

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band, but they've just because they've
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with like all the ties to every
horror movie you can think of that.

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seen them at Evelyn's death Fest before.

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They've just been completely adopted by the
extreme metal community, even though musically they've

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got nothing to do with like death
or black metal or anything. It's just

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they turn up and play the themes
of loads of Dario Argenta films with like

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a they've got backdrop set for life. You know, they still do just

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Yeah, the ballroom wasn't quite the
right venue for that. I think it

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was like the screen was a bit
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yeah, but you know, they've
got that stuff behind them, so they're

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doing you know, Suspiria and bits
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and stuff like. It was weird. They opened in a very slow,

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strange manner where they came out and
they opened with a theme for a Rigio

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Diodato movie that isn't Cannibal Holocaust,
so like a niche pool, And then

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they did like a Darry Argenta movie
from like the two thousands, and I'm

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like, I don't think anyone knows
what these are. But then straight after

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that they did they went into Demons, which is one of the fucking sickest

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Yeah, and as soon as that
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here we go, fucking classics.
They overran their set a little bit.

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So I didn't get to see I
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I think they were probably doing like
Deep Red and like Tenebray and stuff like

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that, which again, like Tenebray
is like full on disco. It's like

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like they're they're weird, like they're
weird scores that like sometimes you know,

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like associally them with horror, but
it's it was all just part of the

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vibe, weren't it. Like,
but there what I'd like to see it

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at some point just for the the
whole vibe of it. Yeah, I'm

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seeing them do again. It's almost
like greatest hits of horror scores at a

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festival or occasionally they've done like headline
tours where they've done like live scores to

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films and stuff like that, Like
I've seen them do the Dawn of the

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Dead version of that, and I
know people have seen them do Suspirior stuff

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like that. So it's always again
a fun experience. The reason I had

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to run off and I think I
missed them doing again. There's ast couple

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things is I had to run for
the Unworld to see hex Vessel, which

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is another one of the bigger draws
for me because in general, you know,

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I like hes xpscal have done for
a long time, but particularly yeah,

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particularly back of the polar Al album, And that was a really interesting

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experience because obviously Hex Vessel are kind
of psychedelic folk band originally, but this

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last album they've done a black metal
album, and it's like which version of

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Hex Vessel are you get in then
in the live show and so like,

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I know that you saw them with
with with Converge, and I imagine that

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was like the full one that was
full on psychedelic like yeah, like acoustic

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guitars and stuff like that. Yeah, they had loads. There was like

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a lot going on. When I
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how many different things are they have? They got? But it was with

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the trees, like yeah, and
that's completely different to what I saw because

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what I saw was Hex Special,
the four piece black metal band like they

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there wasn't like a four piece metal
band sort of thing I saw there.

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play anything from prior to this record because

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I guess it's you know, it's
not what they had with them. You

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know, they can't just in a
set, you can't just flip back and

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forth between like, oh yeah,
his are like electric black metal set up,

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and they were also going to whip
out the Mandolins and whatever. Yea,

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So I saw them basically they do
who they did, I I guess,

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like almost the entirety of the Polar
Ail new album, and there was

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nothing else. So in a way, there's like a kind of again a

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sort of a transient exclusivity to that
where it's like if you see Hex Vessel

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right now, you are seeing them
do this black metal material, and who

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knows how long they'll be doing that. You know, it's like they might

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go off in a completely other direction
again in terms of the live shows,

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I'll be doing that and and again
I feel like if they ever come around

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doing the kind of folks show again, I would like to see that because

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it's different to what I've seen.
But you know, it was again really

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cool walking to the Underworld. There's
Matt in his like his robe with his

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fucking hood up, like playing these
like icy, you know, black metal

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songs. There was like one of
the two guitarists he did have like a

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keyboard as well that he'd switched to
to do that. The kind of little

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accents and stuff those songs have but
you know, again just the full on

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meditative, you know, all the
strange eccentricities, but very again primal black

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metal that exists on that last record. And you know, it was like

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Matt Is, you know, he's
from London or at least England originally but

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lives in Finland, and he does
this kind of like every time I came

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back. Every time I come back
to England, I'm reminded of kind of

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old friends and you know, people
gone by, but I will meet them

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again in the eternal meadow and movie
into that. So you know he's always

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been like that, though even with
very pleasant, exactly inductions, he hams

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it up a bit on them.
Yeah, but it's like there's there's authenticity

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to that in terms of what you
were saying, but also a you know,

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a theatricality and kind of those things
in twine. So again like very

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cool to see. And then the
proper like the last headliner of the The

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Sunday in the Ballroom was a sun
who I guess was like it's his first

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show off of the back of this
new album, so it was like live

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debuts for like, you know,
the Promethean Spark and all the type songs.

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And this was where it was really
weird in terms of numbers because again

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headlining and the electric ballroom, but
the festival hadn't even sold out the Underworld.

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So yeah, and again night,
I don't know how many people had

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like stuck around or whatever. Eastan
played the Electropollum to literally about three or

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four hundred people, and it was
really strange in terms of like Isan could

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probably play that venue himself and sell
more than that. You know, It's

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like Son could probably just headline that
venue by himself and do a proper,

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full on show, and here was
headlining a festival ostensibly to this really minuscule

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crowd at the end of the weekend. It was quite strange to see.

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I suppose it's one of those things
where like people are gonna pay forty thirty

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forty quid see himy himself rather than
however a three day festival is going to

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cost with all the exactly that.
But you know, so it was a

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weird little atmosphere. But obviously in
terms of seeing Isan play that material,

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and it was, you know,
fairly it was actually entirely waited on,

405
00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:49,400
like the last few years of his
material where he didn't go back at all

406
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,599
to like the like I've seenan a
few times, but he's normally playing stuff

407
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,000
from like the After Record or you
know, Aromet or whatever. Didn't to

408
00:25:57,039 --> 00:26:00,599
do any of that. The oldest
he went was a few songs from Arctists,

409
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,359
but it was almost entirely songs that
he's released since the last time I

410
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,039
saw him, which is cool because
again it was like a few from those

411
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,279
of the Telemark EP which he did, which is the one that Taylor Swift

412
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,160
took the cover from. But yeah, those kind of like Norwegian, you

413
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,319
know, slightly more black metally leaning
songs and then these new ones which obviously

414
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:22,720
we just review that the album it's
fucking amazing and I've been listening to it,

415
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:26,359
you know, continually, but it's
such an extravagant, you know,

416
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:32,960
orchestral album, and this was like
the the stripped down rock version of those

417
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,680
songs. Obviously you can hear the
sinse on the backing track and stuff like

418
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,880
that, but it's like really more
about the kind of you know, the

419
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,200
guitar grouves and stuff like that.
Yeah, so like you know, it

420
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,279
heard those songs and a lot of
different lights now and yeah, I mean

421
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,039
you know, won't necessarily be his
kind of biggest show he's ever played or

422
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:51,519
anything like that, but obviously it
was really really good to see. And

423
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:53,960
yeah, it was a festival that
I don't know if they'll do this particular

424
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
one again, because you know,
Cosmic Void, they've got a bit of

425
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,240
a a thing going on there.
There's pretty well at this point this extra

426
00:27:00,279 --> 00:27:03,480
one. I don't know if it
will have I mean it was almost early

427
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:04,880
have lost money, but in terms
of like being a continual thing they'll do,

428
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,319
I don't know, but I'm certainly
glad it went because I got to

429
00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:14,920
again. I like those that all
cool, niche again exclusive stuff you won't

430
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,480
see at most festival type lineups,
and I've got a few of those coming

431
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,839
up this year and that was a
nice way, you know, to start

432
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:25,640
that. So that was my weekend
at Celestial Darkness Festival in London. We

433
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,400
are going to move on to a
bit of news that we have. We've

434
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:33,000
got some new music, we have
got some strange things go going on.

435
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,319
We also have we're going to start
off with some of that. I don't

436
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,640
know what's in the water recently in
terms of like Jamie Lemmon retired from music

437
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:45,680
like the other week. It feels
like a lot of that kind of yeah,

438
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,680
the cooler, artsier side of brit
Rock and that kind of light.

439
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,599
Yeah, it's taking some losses at
the moment and you will probably have no

440
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:56,279
doubt seen in the last couple of
days that the lex Editions that Parlor Palm

441
00:27:56,279 --> 00:28:00,240
Reader, who Palm Reader, have
announced that they are going to be going

442
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:06,359
on a farewell tour and calling it
a day later into this year. They're

443
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:11,640
doing four dates of a headline tour
in July and then their final show you

444
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,799
know ever right now is going to
be at two thousand and three so Fectial,

445
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,920
which is the first where theyve played
many times, and I'm sure that

446
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,960
that will be a very very leave. That final show will be a nice

447
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,480
celebratory kind of moment for them.
Palm Reader calling it a day is I

448
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:30,319
don't know. It feels a bit
like like I was saying, they're kind

449
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:38,240
of they're so synonymous to me of
a particular era, kind of like surviving

450
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:45,720
in between a couple of different eras
exactly what mean, Like Palm Reader have

451
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,160
existed through a lot of different trends
or whatever. Well, you go back

452
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
to like the bad that that was
that like era of like the UK hardcore,

453
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,119
the real like punks or of like
stuff the feed the Rhinos and that's

454
00:28:57,119 --> 00:29:00,759
sort they were part of that,
and then there are bands found out exactly

455
00:29:00,759 --> 00:29:03,799
that they're from that kind of the
post Gallows era really of like yeah,

456
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,960
you know, yeah, like the
first of someone what was the point Gallows

457
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,920
like that they would like, yeah, feed the rhino, like Baby Godzilla

458
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,319
when they were you know, fucking
Brotherhood of the Lake or whatever, and

459
00:29:12,359 --> 00:29:17,319
they were kind of a bridge from
that into what then became like you know,

460
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:18,920
the T and M era. And
I think if you know, if

461
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,720
you think about a band who in
the UK have just kind of been like

462
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,440
slumming it out forever and never you
know, they never had any real moment

463
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,599
of mainstream pick up or whatever.
It's just like what band have been like

464
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,799
in the trenches for the past nearly
fifteen years in the UK. I think

465
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,440
Palm Reader, if you again,
if you are in those trenches yourself and

466
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:41,319
go into shows, will be a
quite uh you know, a very synonymous

467
00:29:41,319 --> 00:29:44,279
band in that sense. Yeah.
I mean they were one of those bands

468
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:45,880
that I think they're on those bands, I don't you never really meet a

469
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,839
casual fan of They were the people
who liked Palm Reader, Like a lot

470
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,200
of them would tell you par are
the best band to come from the UK

471
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,559
in the last like I say,
fifteen years that they were that kind of

472
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,640
beloved band to the people were really
wrapping up for they they did like go

473
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,839
on to you know, as they've
soldiered on like towards the end, they

474
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,839
were doing decent numbers. Yeah,
comparatively, they probably they picked up in

475
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440
terms of how much how much recognition
they were getting towards the end. And

476
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,799
if it were like that kind of
artsier post milk and infant stuff where they

477
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:22,440
were following like Rolo to MASSI really
starting to blossom and get popularity. Part

478
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,160
me you could kind of like ride
that wave quite well. I mean,

479
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920
like I say, I saw them
just over a week ago supporting Price and

480
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,200
they were they were great live and
it didn't feel like I had an air

481
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,839
of finality to it. But you
know again they around, like I said,

482
00:30:34,839 --> 00:30:37,960
they have slummed it out. They
have gone for it all. So

483
00:30:37,079 --> 00:30:41,160
if they they are an output where
there like we we can't reatensibly further what

484
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:45,680
we will end it on our terms
like fair enough I was really bummed out

485
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,079
about it because I've got a lot
of time for Palm Reader, but just

486
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,359
yeah, it was a shame to
see. Yeah, I think in terms

487
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,720
of what you're saying about kind of
ending it when they feel like it,

488
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:57,519
I guess this this doesn't feel to
me like you know, we've used examples

489
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:02,000
before of like Black Peaks or heck
when they went or whatever, I've kind

490
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:06,319
of like untapped potential. Yeah,
like before their time. This feels a

491
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:10,799
little bit more like kind of they've
got what they wanted to out of it,

492
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,640
I suppose, which is always you
know, it makes it a bit

493
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:17,799
easier to kind of stomach. It's
funny you say that about like I think

494
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,680
I would probably count myself as that
casual fan of Palm Reader, where I

495
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:23,680
do. I really like Palm Reader. But for me kind of like twenty

496
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,680
fifteen to like twenty eighteen kind of
era, second third album sort of time.

497
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:30,759
Yeah, that's about when I was
like when I would see them and

498
00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,880
stuff, and obviously, you know, I think I remember that the track

499
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,319
Always Darkest, which is a fucking
ripper. It's not any of their albums,

500
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:38,279
but that's a brilliant track, and
that was premiered on the show.

501
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:41,480
It's one of those ones where the
kind of you know, we've got this

502
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:45,079
track from you know, one of
our bands in a way, which again

503
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,400
why this part Reader anouncement, I
guess sort of hits slightly closer to home.

504
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:52,240
But like my favorite memory of Palm
Reader was I think it was twenty

505
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160
seventeen, like when that track was
released. I was at two thousand Trees

506
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,720
and there's that band's Slot Face and
they had to pull out of the festival

507
00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,000
and they got last minute replaced by
Palm Reader and basically we turn up to

508
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,039
the festival and it was one of
those deals where like there were people with

509
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:10,640
signs around with like oh, Palm
Reader are playing in place of slot Face

510
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,359
like in like an hour or whatever, and I was like, oh cool,

511
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,119
like fucking but it was one of
those ones where like you never know

512
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,039
how much word had gotten around,
So you went into that tent and I

513
00:32:21,079 --> 00:32:23,680
don't know how many people in that
tent were expecting one band versus another one,

514
00:32:23,759 --> 00:32:28,240
And then Parmary had turned up and
they did that like sad well that

515
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,559
start of that song, and it
was just like, yeah, brilliant.

516
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,599
It was like I don't know,
turned up and hijacked the fucking thing from

517
00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,839
it and around that era is when
I did see them a few times.

518
00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:40,000
I've never seen them on the off
the back of the latest album, which

519
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,960
I know is a lot of people's
like, you know, favorite one they

520
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,000
ever did. But again that time
they are one of those bands like roller

521
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:49,759
to Massie and employed to serve and
heck when they were around in Black Peaks,

522
00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:53,559
who do feel again a particular era
of kind of hardcore leaning but just

523
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:57,839
sort of heavy UK music one of
the front runners. Yeah, I mean,

524
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,640
like I said that, they they
mean paved a lot of bands that

525
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:05,960
we probably loved would probably Tye Pimoingers
quite obviously, which came from that earlier

526
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,319
era like you're saying, yeah,
when they came before the like sort of

527
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,440
employed to serve and that's stuff they
probably would all kind of champion part reader

528
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,759
as like well Ifhaca, I think
we're like we say, like like Parmono

529
00:33:15,839 --> 00:33:20,160
is hugely important to them. So
I think there are bands who's like they're

530
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,640
not gonna be on these like Yuka
bands who are forgotten about if they break

531
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,079
up. I think a lot of
people that there'll be just a era of

532
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,039
person who will hold onto Primarder quite
dearly. But I'm probably going to go

533
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:31,440
along to the London show they're doing
as their final one and just see them

534
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,240
one final time. Like yeah,
I'd like to go and see them off.

535
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,039
And obviously, like I said,
I've not seen them on the back

536
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,000
of the latest record and that album, Sleepless, which came out at the

537
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:44,519
very end of twenty twenty, I
think it will probably like you're saying about

538
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:47,519
kind of the people who hold this
banda that's a real already. I think

539
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:52,000
it's it's a cult record, you
know, and like I, I didn't

540
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,200
connect with it as heavily as people
took. That one took me a long

541
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,680
time compared to the previous previous three. I like the record, but them

542
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,000
going that kind of sort of like
uh you know, prog metale sort of

543
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:09,079
you know, deftones e techie type
direction was again it's I guess it speaks

544
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:12,760
to their kind of evolution that Obviously, again we're talking about them coming out

545
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,679
of the kind of the the aftermath
of Gallows post Hark or you know kind

546
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:22,239
of sound. Well, they were
like probably like chaotic hardcore, but then

547
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,039
they went through to this full on
you know, like you know, Radiohead

548
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:28,039
influenced, and I think, you
know, obviously for people obviously if you

549
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,840
are like a regular arc tangent goer
or something like that, that record is

550
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:36,079
a real you know, a lot
of people's like favorite again record of the

551
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,760
last five years or whatever, And
I can't count myself amongst that, but

552
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:42,000
like obviously it landed in that kind
of way. And you know, I'm

553
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,280
curious, like if we were to
ever do like a part Reader album Club

554
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,599
or something, what one would people
actually consider to be like the classic,

555
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,519
you know, because like I remember, like you obviously people just spoken about

556
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:53,880
Sleepless. I think it's a lot
of people's like that's their biggest achievement.

557
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,360
When Braille came out, that was
like you know that that I always feels

558
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,440
like the one that that was like
where finally started to feel more people catching

559
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,239
onto an upswing, like would you
go back to bad Weather? And that

560
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,239
kind of era I really like,
besides the one we love, the kind

561
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,760
of the sort of you know,
when they've taken the angry hardcore thing to

562
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,400
kind of its fullest level, I
guess, and like that kind of speaks

563
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:22,679
to yeah, like never never a
big popular band on a large level,

564
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:30,360
but they certainly did in the decade
or so around they covered a impressive amount

565
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:36,199
of ground. Yeah yeah, absolutely
yeah, and a good live band as

566
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:42,360
well. So yeah, I mean
another kind of formative to the early era

567
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,599
of T and M. I suppose
band call it a day here and you

568
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:46,719
know, we worsen the best of
luck in terms of this farewell to and

569
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,960
everything like that. And if they're
coming to your city, you should definitely

570
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,400
go along because they were there.
You know, they're a fine live band

571
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:58,199
and a band that I think they're
a band who in five ten years time,

572
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,760
there will be a lot of people
kind of they'll go Palm Reader or

573
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,719
on those like Yeah, I think
even more they'll be there'll be people who

574
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,559
were will kind of like publicly lament
the loss of Palm Reader who weren't necessarily

575
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,679
actually going to these shows at the
time. You know, one of those

576
00:36:10,679 --> 00:36:15,320
ones that might sort of go that
kind of way. So you want to

577
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,559
get in on it while it was
here, I guess, yeah, absolutely,

578
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:22,920
and like and whatever you know the
members will go on to do next,

579
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,039
is that if any of them are
going to carry on with music,

580
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:31,480
I'll be interested to see what any
of them bands. Josh is in the

581
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,239
band with Joe from Black Peaks,
who haven't released anything currently. If someone

582
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,599
called me up on it when I
said that none of the other members apart

583
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,719
from Will are doing anything and but
there's a bad who haven't released any music

584
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,119
yet but hopefully hopefully they will,
you know, after Part Reader are gone,

585
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:50,159
and that was potential to be interesting, I suppose. But yeah,

586
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,280
Palm Reader. New album announcements.
First one is a pretty big one,

587
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,320
I guess. It's Nick Cave and
the Bad Seats have announced their new album

588
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,400
Wild God, which is going to
be out in August. Actually it's a

589
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,519
long way away compatter to most things
we are talking about, but this is

590
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:08,039
in terms of the Seeds canon.
It is the follow up to Ghost Team

591
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:12,360
Really, which came out in twenty
nineteen. Quite a while now. We

592
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,800
did have the Nick Cave and Warren
Ellis record in between the we Review,

593
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,800
which I really like. I think
actually like that like that one. Yeah,

594
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,880
that's the record that I saw them
on the you know, the kind

595
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,480
of weird tour they did for that, and I think I might actually like

596
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:27,039
that record more than the latest Bad
Seeds one. But this is the newest

597
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:30,800
Bad Seas record, and in terms
of that again in particular naming of the

598
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,960
band or whatever. The entire time
that I've been following them, basically they've

599
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,159
been doing that particular sort of trilogy
they were working in, which was the

600
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:45,119
most like sparse, kind of ambient
leaning Bad Seas material that they ever did.

601
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:49,440
I think Ghost Team took that to
its kind of you know, furthest

602
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,599
level. So it was quite a
I guess, like an acknowledgment that we're

603
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:58,599
in something new when I press play
on this single and it's a meedle,

604
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:05,440
like there's bustle in drums and a
fucking rhythm section past the trilogy really involved.

605
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,840
I think this track there's a lot
a lot going on with it.

606
00:38:07,039 --> 00:38:10,679
Yeah, that's not to say it's
any of their heavier tracks and like that,

607
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:15,559
we're not going back to you know, full on growling murderer man Nick

608
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:20,559
Cave. This is like you know, Q Magazine and Jewels Holland Nick Cave,

609
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:23,519
but white celebratory though. I think
like it's it's quite uplifting and like,

610
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,440
yeah, I like the melron darker
moments, but like, yeah,

611
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:31,280
yeah, I think it's it's a
more unassuming song. Perhaps then like again

612
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,320
Carnage coming off that trilogy. I
really like the kind of increased bite that

613
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,400
was on levels of that. But
there is that point when you hit like

614
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,760
the three minute mark in this song
and it does that like bring your spirit

615
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,199
down and it just fucking shifts gears
with the strings and everything and Nick starts

616
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:52,440
booting off that. Yeah, I
think it's a like an acknowledgment. Like

617
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,159
I said that this album is at
least going to be rather different and moving

618
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,159
a different direction to the last certainly
two Bad Seeds records, And I think

619
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:06,400
that maybe more than the track itself, But that is kind of the interesting

620
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,239
part to me about where we might
end up going with a Bad Seeds record.

621
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:14,920
Yeah, definitely. Yes. We
also have in much more closer home

622
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,679
T and m fair Ceaspace Cowboy have
got their new album A it's called Coup

623
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,280
de Gras. It's coming out on
would you believe at the nineteenth of April.

624
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,119
I'm telling you that's the month where
we're not going to be able to

625
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:30,360
review some of the big records that
come out because like Metalcrep monthly Extreme Metal

626
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,440
as well, But it's like the
last two weeks of that month, everything

627
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,519
is coming out, So there are
going to have to be some notable records

628
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,599
that will slip through our particular net
in that regard because we have time to

629
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,119
get to all them. But Sea
Space Cowboys record is on that pile.

630
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,320
We've actually heard several tracks on this
already because they've announced the track list.

631
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,960
I was thinking, like, surely
we've had Ceaspace Cowboy singles and stuff that

632
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,199
we've spoken about, and they are, you know, here on this,

633
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,840
so maybe not too much stock to
put into this particular new track. But

634
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,159
there's about four of them out and
asume that you are into it, yeah,

635
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:05,079
I mean this newest one because it's
kind of like two songs they put

636
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,920
on this new one, one of
them kind of being like this really like

637
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,320
vaudeville introduction kind of track with a
guest vocal, but then the main sort

638
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,880
of similar done. It is very
panic at the disco core. They've really

639
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,079
died that. Yeah, well is
that, but it's even it's less kind

640
00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:23,039
of like all over the place,
and I think it actually suits c Space

641
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:29,320
Cowboy a bit better with like Connie
as like a vocalist, Like you can

642
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:34,000
now that really like high personality sort
of thing means it is the most theatrical

643
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:37,760
sort thing they've done, but it's
still got all the discordant riffs and panic

644
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,719
chords and metal or bits. I
like, yeah, into this a lot,

645
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,760
sure. And then the following week, as I said, in that

646
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,360
busy, busy period Full of Hell, We're going to have their new album

647
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:52,280
which is called Coagulated Bliss. This
is the follow up to whatever. The

648
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,920
twenty twenty one album was cooled that
we did review that had all the fucking

649
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,239
bass clarinets and stuff on it.
That was cool, But then this is

650
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,000
also it's coming very hot off the
heels of the Co Lab album with Nothing

651
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:02,840
thing that came out just in in
December, so you can really fill your

652
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,800
plates with full of hell. Jay
Weinberg, which announced this week to be

653
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:14,360
joining Suicidal Tendencies, which feels like
if you were going to, I don't

654
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,800
know, write a bingo card for
what things that could happen after Jay Weinberg

655
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,199
leaves Slip Knot, it wouldn't have
been outlandish to put joint Suicide Tendencies on

656
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:30,320
those because it feels like, has
a go in suicidal when you when you're

657
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,360
out of your main band, do
you head over to Suicidal Tendencies for stint.

658
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,400
Yeah, I'd forgotten that Dave Lombardo
had even left Suicidal Tendencies. Apparently

659
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:45,840
he has been out for like three
years. Yeah, but like it makes

660
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,280
sense. I guess that, like
he'll do well in suicell Tendencies like be

661
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,079
a good kind of like and it
presents behind the kit to like add a

662
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:57,480
bit of Yeah, the only thing
I would say about this is Suicidal Tendencies

663
00:41:57,519 --> 00:42:00,760
And like I said, they're kind
of like you know, Revolving Drum Throwne.

664
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,079
It's such a legacy band right now, where like they haven't released an

665
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:07,000
abum since twenty eighteen. I don't
know when the last Suicide Tenzcy's album that

666
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,440
people like really listened, Like yeah, yeah it came out. It feels

667
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,280
like a kind of like you go
and see Suicide Tendencies and you're seeing the

668
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,559
name and the kind of the the
legacy and that kind of celebratory side rather

669
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,199
than like a super creatively relevant band. And you know, fucking good for

670
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,440
Jay that he gets to go and
play with, you know, this legendary

671
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,639
band who probably mean a lot to
him, and he'll do very very well

672
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:35,360
there and he'll probably be fucking you
know, he'll smash that role undeniably,

673
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,920
I think. But in terms of
like, are you going to be hearing

674
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,119
Jay Weinberg on any kind of high
profile records anytime soon under suicidal tendencys name,

675
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,360
at least I don't think that would
be the case. Yeah, I

676
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,159
mean he might. He might have
other stuff going on alongside this, you

677
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:52,719
know, if it's just like he's
now tonal with suicidal tendencies whenever they're active.

678
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,159
But yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I doubt will get like

679
00:42:57,159 --> 00:43:00,519
a suress Tendency's record with him on
drums. Well even did I think it?

680
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:04,840
Just it just wouldn't be headline news
the most exciting. But you know,

681
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,159
the revolving drum throne slipnot drummer has
gone to a cell of Tendency's.

682
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:12,760
Dave Lombardo has gone to somewhere else. I'm fucking playing with Simon Neil,

683
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,559
isn't he ye? Sepulturer's drummer is
probably gonna Probably they're all just moving around,

684
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:22,000
aren't they. Someone else will have
gone to Sepulturer. Laurie Patterson is

685
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,400
an official member of Creeper. This
is the guy who has been playing live

686
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:29,320
with Creeper for god well over a
year now. By this stage, it's

687
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,119
been Yeah, it's been a good
while probably I guess since you know,

688
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,239
post COVID that he's been even maybe
pre I don't remember. He's been in

689
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,800
that band for a long time.
But now he's officially inducted as like a

690
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,920
not just live member of Creeper,
and you know, good for him.

691
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,400
He's been playing with her for a
long time. He clearly he's putting a

692
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,039
good shift and and deserves that.
And they've kind of announced this alongside a

693
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:50,199
video for the song Lover's Letters Stray, which I'm glad see that song getting

694
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:52,599
its flowers. That's like one of
my favorites on the record that it doesn't

695
00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,519
necessarily like you know, it's not
like Further and Forever or people go,

696
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,719
oh my god, what the fuck? Yea, but that's just a banger.

697
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,719
I love it. And they're just
leaning more. They're getting kinkier by

698
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:08,320
the day, like BDSM non video
like cool creepy, Yeah, that's prep

699
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:12,320
Like they just look the coolest in
the video though, like leather Jack like

700
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,079
leather Jacket. Vampire era Creeper I
think might be my favorite era of creeper

701
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,280
at this time. Yeah, I
actually think it's so funny thinking about like

702
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,920
when Hannah joined the band, and
you know, there's a there's a confident

703
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,039
thing involved, where like when Hannah
joined the band, she was just sort

704
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:27,960
of the the nice keyboardist at the
back who didn't command a lot of attention

705
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:36,960
necessarily. And then a few years
in, okay, Michelle Peifer, sure,

706
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:43,360
why not go for it? Corn
have announced a massive thirtieth anniversary stadium

707
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,519
show. This is actually that makes
the UK one look tiny. It does.

708
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:49,880
Yeah, the UK one still got
a bloody good bill if you're going

709
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,760
on to the London Day. But
this is I guess the thirtieth anniversary of

710
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,039
the debut record. I don't know. I can't see the information. If

711
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:59,119
that means they're actually playing the Deby
record again as they have done in the

712
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:02,519
past, it will be interesting if
they've gone back to doing that after I

713
00:45:02,559 --> 00:45:07,480
guess that particular thing was sort of
like had had different judgments on how well

714
00:45:07,559 --> 00:45:13,360
people thought that that went. But
along with it they've got Evanessence, Gadjira,

715
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,679
Star Scars on Broadway, spirit Box
coming over from the UK again and

716
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:23,159
Vended, which, apart from the
fact that Scars on Broadway is you know,

717
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:32,599
people wish it was System yeah fucking
or Corn like yeah, an ridiculous

718
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:38,199
type makes no sense at all,
but I would have a great time like

719
00:45:38,679 --> 00:45:43,079
but like you could see both fitting
with Corn like in a way like,

720
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,840
yeah, they both they do both
fit Corn in like the different sides of

721
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:51,119
them, but as a one two
before them, it is a weird,

722
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,559
weird like jarring, but yeah,
I have an amazing time at that.

723
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,599
It's nice to see Corn playing fucking
huge shows, like again, this is

724
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,599
a US fucking stadium. I think
for a band who here, they've always

725
00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:07,320
been kind of like locked in that
download subheadliner, you know, maybe the

726
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,360
third yeah, whatever kind of level. And they're a band I think a

727
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,679
lot of people lament not kind of
being at the very very top of the

728
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:21,360
tree when they've undoubtedly put the shift
in to to warrant that. It's nice

729
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,559
to see them actually going, yeah, fuck it, we've been around long

730
00:46:22,639 --> 00:46:25,719
enough, we are important enough,
we have enough, like all Timer tunes,

731
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,079
we are going to pack out the
fucking and most enormous shows that we

732
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:31,800
can book. And I guess it'd
be interesting off the back of this whether

733
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:38,079
they're long term sort of stock does
you know go up? Yeah, I

734
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,320
hope so that it'd be nice to
see him, like really get their moments

735
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,119
to just be recognized as like,
what an important again, I remember what

736
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,880
important band Corn were. Yeah,
and I think public good will and everything

737
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,840
in terms of like, you know, obviously, how many new bands have

738
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,880
come through, like you know,
spirit Box or whatever. Who are all

739
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,480
you know worshipting out that altar?
I think you know, certainly they are

740
00:46:57,639 --> 00:47:04,440
undeniably in legend status at this point, Bricks and Academy have announced their proper

741
00:47:04,639 --> 00:47:08,320
re reopening date after the venue has
been closed for again well over a year

742
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,480
at this point, isn't it?
It is a quite amusing line up for

743
00:47:12,519 --> 00:47:15,000
people are like really where it's just
look, this is a bit of a

744
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:19,199
monkey's poor moment. It feels like
to me is like yay, Bricks Academy

745
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,280
is reopening, but not even just
like the firsts announced, but every sing

746
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,400
they've been out so far it's like, oh, are they exclusively booking show

747
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,679
for the most boring people you know, to just avoid any like yeah,

748
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,679
I mean the first announcement I'm looking
at here is just all tribute bands basically

749
00:47:31,679 --> 00:47:37,400
it's like Navana Uk and the Smythes
and stuff like that. Definitely might they

750
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,159
invented like the Black Keys, I
think, And this is like bands like

751
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,719
that, Oh, are you just
booking the most boring bands you can to

752
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,599
just keep saying, But like the
tribute things is reopening that. I'm like,

753
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,679
I kind of see what they're going
for there is just have a safe

754
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,559
bit of one and go, oh, here's a song, here's here are

755
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:58,079
songs you recognize, comes sing along. Yeah, just news there is that

756
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:01,360
Brixton is you know, after a
fear that it might actually you know,

757
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,239
go the way of the Dodo,
it is opening up, so you know,

758
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,039
we'rehoo, that's good. This is
a speculative piece of news. I

759
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:15,760
think. Refused have been announced for
a festival in Sweden, the Rosendahl Garden

760
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,840
Party, which happens in Stockholm.
It's their first live show in four years,

761
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,840
which I didn't realize. Apparently they
haven't played since Covid I guess,

762
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:29,840
yeah, But being announced for this
festival has come with this kind of announcement

763
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,079
from that festival that it is their
final festival appearance in Sweden. Right.

764
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,079
This is at the time of recording
the only information I have in terms of

765
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:43,400
any larger run or anything like that. But does that mean if it is

766
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,440
their first show again in four years
or whatever, do you reckon refuse to

767
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:49,599
like actually calling it quits again or
is this like, you know, are

768
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,719
they going to do a machine Head
and not play festival and like what's going

769
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,840
on here? Are refused going out? I reckon this might be the start

770
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,880
of like a winding down process.
Like I don't know if like they're going

771
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000
to you knows, they're breaking up, or if they just kind of like

772
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,559
it becomes a very even more casual
than it has been life. What they

773
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,480
might just play you know, the
odd headlines show every now and then.

774
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,400
I hope that we get a few
more dates. If they are like calling

775
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,239
it quits, I'd like to refuse
again. They're still great now. I've

776
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:22,760
never actually been refused. So I
saw them, see them why some both

777
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,280
times they've been like really really on
it. It was on what was the

778
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,159
war music or whatever? That?
Yeah, I saw them on that twice

779
00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:36,559
and like both times really good.
Like so yeah, I guess we'll see

780
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:39,000
if if this is going to amount
to just a slow wind down or just

781
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,800
off festivals. Or they are going
to, you know, in a couple

782
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,199
of weeks say yeah, this is
it. Yeah, I think I refuse

783
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,719
to fucking dead again. This time
it's permanent. But yeah, you wouldn't

784
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,519
be surprised, I guess after this
to see the news of a refused farewell

785
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:59,280
tour coming you know, this year, so be beyond the lookout for that.

786
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,480
Maybe they will pull a Slayer and
come back only play festivals or whatever.

787
00:50:02,519 --> 00:50:07,559
But yeah, refused potentially on the
way out here. And my favorite

788
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:10,119
piece of news of the week,
which you brought to my attention, Sam,

789
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:16,599
is that uh iced Tea and on
his new list of targets. I

790
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:20,119
guess it's like every couple of years, Iced Tea needs to get into a

791
00:50:20,159 --> 00:50:23,679
beef with someone new you wouldn't expect. This time it is the UK Labor

792
00:50:23,679 --> 00:50:30,480
Party leader Kiir Starmer. After Kiir
Starmer started this which I think I can't

793
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,679
find the actuatqua like, is this
a ship post that iced Ty is now

794
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,559
like taken literally? But I was
like I did, But whatever it is,

795
00:50:38,599 --> 00:50:40,840
I'm just like I'm here for that. I'm here for it. Yeah,

796
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,960
so Kir Starmer apparently, if you
know, if we can't find the

797
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:49,920
article or whatever. But apparently in
an interview he was asked to name a

798
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,519
public figure who he thinks has a
corrosive effect on the youth, and he

799
00:50:54,719 --> 00:51:02,320
immediately jumped to wrapper and body count
for man Iced Tea because apparently his son

800
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,119
likes Iced Tea and like retweeted him
or something, and he watching his son's

801
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:12,599
Twitter account, was like, who
is this vile man spreading such violent you

802
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,800
know, full on like nineties conservative
parent. Won't someone please think of the

803
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:22,679
children, Like yeah, hip hop
is inspiring gang violence whatever type deal.

804
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:30,039
And Iced Tea probably never heard of
Kirstarmer in his life replied on Twitter saying,

805
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:34,519
oh shit, we're famous. We've
struck a nerve. You've got to

806
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,599
read this. F this clown.
And again, if iced Tea knows nothing

807
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:43,679
about Kiir Starmer, then probably better
for him. But Iced Tea calling Kostarmer

808
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:49,679
of all people a clown is my
favorite quote of this year so far.

809
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,719
Is this is gonna be the one
that I'm like this, this is you

810
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,440
know, when we come to the
Ndabian Wars in the summer of the year,

811
00:51:55,239 --> 00:52:00,199
Iced Tea kissed Armer, beef chat
shit gets shot. Kistar is to

812
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:08,159
learn what happens when you talk shit
and act hard. Motherfucker always been like,

813
00:52:09,079 --> 00:52:14,239
yeah, fucking tell them the nerd. All right, Patreon this week

814
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,880
what we were talking about earlier,
a couple of days ago, we recorded

815
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,679
and uploaded the second part, the
final part of our band special on Alexis

816
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,639
on Fire. Actually I went back
and looked at the other things. It

817
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,880
turned out this is the longest single
part of a band special that we have

818
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,599
ever done. I think the longest
one before was the second part of Killswitch

819
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:36,880
Engage was went over four hours.
This one has eclipsed that, and you

820
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,639
can never predict which ones it will
be, but it's it's the two albums.

821
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:43,119
It was all we had to cover
on this one. You know,

822
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,639
other stuff as well involved in the
middle. A good couple of hours of

823
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,199
chat in between the two actual Election
on Fire albums, which is good and

824
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:54,679
representative because I was thirteen years story. Yeah, So summing up this special

825
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,320
in general, I will say I've
said it a couple times on the special.

826
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,920
I think it was a real pleasure
for me to because obviously with the

827
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,079
specials, we we flipped back and
forth between doing kind of more extreme underground

828
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,840
stuff, but the way we do
on the reviews. We try. We

829
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,400
try and sort of please everyone in
terms of, like, whatever kind of

830
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,880
rock fan you are, we want
to do some specials on some of your

831
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,559
favorite bands and some of the most
important bands in kind of the fields that

832
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:22,199
you love. And so for me
going over to the realms of kind of

833
00:53:22,199 --> 00:53:28,239
like emo and post hardcore and stuff
like that, finding a band who I

834
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,599
like again already liked and respected a
great deal, and that's part of why

835
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,639
you know, I was a bit
like, yeah, we should do Withlexi

836
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,400
on Fire, but like finding a
band like that who you can fall just

837
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:43,440
so properly in love with and come
out like full on celebrating what a like

838
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,800
genuine okay, a one off kind
of band, which is one of those

839
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,079
things that people maybe isn't always attributed
to a band like Alexi on Fire,

840
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:57,800
but like how interesting and how singular
there kind of artistic lineage is. It's

841
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:00,639
the reason why we do these band
specials. I mean it kind of like

842
00:54:00,679 --> 00:54:04,280
we're in like on the opposite positions. This time we used it's music one

843
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,400
coming at me like I have such
a new fan appreciation for band I liked

844
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:12,519
and like gushing about them, and
like, for me, there's not been

845
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,239
much in the way from this next
especially that's been a new revelation to me

846
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,239
because I fucking adore that band,
and just hearing the Dead Tired records of

847
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,159
the first that was that was the
biggest discussion. It was like, oh

848
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:24,599
cool, George has got this like
wicked hardcore band on the side. But

849
00:54:24,639 --> 00:54:29,440
also also you know kind of like
it was just nice to really dig in

850
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:34,559
and even though you know it's not
my favorite, like giving old croajon Cardinals

851
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:39,800
its Flowers is like a really like
important pivot album that was like way ahead

852
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,079
of its time in terms of like
post hardcore, released in two thousand and

853
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:46,800
nine, and yeah, just a
really good time and like starting the Pink

854
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:52,840
Wars in the T and M discord. Yeah, I stand by my position

855
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,519
one. Yeah this so this was
the second part. We basically had the

856
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:01,239
kind of the death and rebirth because
we did the farewell album and the comeback

857
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,639
album inside the same special And I
think that is the point where you're really

858
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:08,119
getting to like no one in the
world but Alexa on Fire could have made

859
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:13,639
these records right Old croas current Young
Cardinals coming at the end of their classic

860
00:55:13,679 --> 00:55:17,800
period really if you've not heard it
in a while, and I guess considered

861
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,599
how unique a record it is it
really is, and then real one off,

862
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,079
Yeah, and then a couple of
years after we reviewed it, sort

863
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:29,639
of seeing how well otherness has kind
of stood that particular stretch of time and

864
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,519
how well it's slotting up and everything. This particular part also meant going through

865
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:40,519
the wider Alexis on Fire umbrella of
related projects and City and Color Special as

866
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:44,039
we joked it is, but really
it goes from everything from we just mentioned

867
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:47,400
Dead Tired, We speak about you
know, the Wades, Doom's Children record,

868
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,760
Black Lungs, and a you know, as efficient as we could sort

869
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,280
of cram into forty five minutes or
so run through of City and Color as

870
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,719
a project, all of the different
records, which ones are kind of worth

871
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,599
your time, whether we like Sit
in Color at all, the different you

872
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:06,239
know things we come out with,
like we said, the wider Elextion Fire

873
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,920
umbrella, and then come in too, as we always do, summon up

874
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:13,280
the legacy of Alexis on Fire,
which is one of the more nuanced cases

875
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,800
of like I said it, on
the special, They're not Navana in terms

876
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:22,159
of like ushering in a massive sea
change of like changing the face of rock

877
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,199
music and what bands sound like or
whatever, but pinpointing what their legacy is

878
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,119
and what kind of standard they you
know, project out there and uphold and

879
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:34,639
everything again is part of the thing
where I always like to say, these

880
00:56:34,679 --> 00:56:37,760
specials I think cover bands in the
way that most places you are not going

881
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,519
to hear do that, and hearing
this level of detail on everything Alexa on

882
00:56:42,519 --> 00:56:45,920
Fire and really going into what makes
them the band they are. It's a

883
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,679
special that I'm proud of. So
if you want to go and get involved

884
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:52,159
with that, that would be a
patron oft com slash that's not now.

885
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,199
The previous thing prize that was the
album Club pack we did where we spoke

886
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:58,880
about another of the most important post
hardcore bands of all time, the Blackouts,

887
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:01,320
starting the party, Aglocks the Mantle, like I mentioned earlier, really

888
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:07,239
fucking awesome. Stuck for me,
like I'm I do expect to come out

889
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,480
of that album club a fully rush
piled and going into more Rush albums,

890
00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:15,480
oh yeah, and be thinking about
that Aglock album and like along one kindering

891
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:20,280
like maybe having to check out a
Raglock album at some point. Yeah,

892
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,400
So that is what going on Petroncon
Slash. That's not metal. If you

893
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,239
want to support us, it is
what keeps this podcast alive. So we

894
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,360
thank you hugely if you choose to
do that. That is currently what is

895
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,480
over there awaiting you to grace your
ears along with everything else we've ever done.

896
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,960
Gracing your ears this particular week,
this Friday are Friday's releases, and

897
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,320
we start with one of the most
anticipated heavy fucking metal records of I would

898
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,559
say the last few years. I
guess it's Judas Priest back with Invincible Shield,

899
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,119
their first record in six years.
Could you believe that? But like

900
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:55,519
Firepower still kind of fresh. Yeah, Firepower has not lost its fucking luster.

901
00:57:55,679 --> 00:58:00,760
You can say that much. And
I guess you know. There was

902
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,360
every chance that Firepower could have ended
up being the last record, but we

903
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,400
have another one where that came from. So go and fill your ears with

904
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:13,239
some Judas Priest. We also have
Sonata Arktica, Clear Cold Beyond. Apparently

905
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:15,440
this is much more like a power
metal record as opposed to some of the

906
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,960
other things like acoustic records or what
they've experimented with. I hope that there

907
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:24,320
is a cloud factory on it for
Elliott to you know, have an earworm

908
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,320
there, myrath Karma. This is
the first record to show up in this

909
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:35,440
hyperblast three times because every time I
have put this fucking record in the wife,

910
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,920
I recognize every time I put this
record in the release date has been

911
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,119
wrong. I don't know what the
fuck has been going on. I am

912
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,280
sure it's coming out this time because
like there are reviews up, like publications

913
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:52,199
are publishing their reviews of this.
I am certain that this my record will

914
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:55,159
come out tomorrow as we are currently
recording this. If it doesn't, I'm

915
00:58:55,199 --> 00:59:00,000
not putting it in anymore. Fuck
them, but myrath Karma should be out

916
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:05,519
kill the lights death Melodies. This
is a moose from Bullet, m Valentine's

917
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,360
new band. I can't remember.
It's been a while, I guess since

918
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,000
they were, like, you know, put forward as a band. He's

919
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:14,199
been at a Bullet for quite a
long time now, isn't he. Yeah,

920
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,239
But this is another new record from
them. We also have Oh if

921
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,840
Judas Priest wasn't enough for your heavy
metal Today, Midnight's new record Hellish Expectations.

922
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:27,239
Just like long ago, this is
the last Midnight record, but I'm

923
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:29,880
ready for a new one after how
much I enjoyed that last record. It's

924
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,559
been two years, it was two
years before that. That's how he doesn't

925
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:37,760
work. Yeah, it's just like
constantly fixing it with more Midnight but Judas

926
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,880
Priest and Midnight on the same day. If you are a heavy metal fan,

927
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,280
you are fucking one for the heavy
metal demons, Yeah, you are.

928
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:50,159
The demons are living today. Ghost
not that one ghost as I like

929
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,079
to call him, even though he's
pronounced ghost, But I have to say

930
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,159
it. Goss To I says,
yeah, you have to say it to

931
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:58,960
determine which one you're talking about,
the synth wave one. His new record,

932
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,480
Prophecy is out today. I've heard
that this one goes much more to

933
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:06,960
the kind of like the extreme,
blasty synth way thing that he did on

934
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:08,360
records like Possessor and stuff like that, which I think is maybe the most

935
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:13,079
unique thing that he's kind of offered
to that particular kind of realm of music.

936
01:00:13,119 --> 01:00:14,639
So if you liked that, I
mean, the cover's got a big

937
01:00:14,639 --> 01:00:15,679
fucking nuclear explosion on the front of
it, so like, you know,

938
01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:21,000
that's that's the vibe we're going for. And then today is really a heavy

939
01:00:21,039 --> 01:00:24,800
metal day. Really because we've got
ex order. Then you record Defectum Omnium,

940
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:28,880
you know, New Orleans kind of
proto groove metal whatever, kind of

941
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:32,480
pioneers death metal, A pretty you
know, one of the more buzzy I

942
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:37,800
guess current death metal bands around.
Skeletal Remains releasing fragments of the Age List,

943
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,119
which is their follow up to I
guess they're kind of more breakout record

944
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:44,000
that came out a few years ago. If you want some just nasty death

945
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:45,760
doom. At the fact that the
band is called slime Lord, I think

946
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:52,599
we'll convey to you what you want. An album title that chere Chi Trio

947
01:00:52,639 --> 01:00:58,079
Doo, Micosis Relinquished. That's how
I'm going to do that named in the

948
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:02,480
description. If you need that one
black metal full on, just corse painted

949
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,599
black metal, nothing fancy really going
on. But if you want some of

950
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:08,880
that merrimack, I've got the record
of Gravity and Grace and some slow,

951
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:16,079
slow funeral doom for Sam to dig
into ethan or Doll with Requiem for Irene.

952
01:01:16,119 --> 01:01:19,840
There you go. That is today's
releases. Like I said, due

953
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,440
Priest of Midnight wol thank you very
much for listening today. Go and check

954
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,800
out what we were speaking about with
the excell Fire, especially everything. If

955
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,039
you so wish, that is a
lovely time. If you are, if

956
01:01:29,039 --> 01:01:30,880
you're maybe not the heavy metal who
can be going for the midnight record today

957
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:34,880
and you want to listen to Dallas
Green instead, We've got you covered.

958
01:01:35,559 --> 01:01:37,400
We will be back with more of
this where this came from, very very

959
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,880
soon, indeed, in fact,
next Friday to be precise, So enjoy,

960
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:43,280
We'll see you there. Bye bye,