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Hello, ladies and gentleman, and
welcome to the five hundred and eighty ninth

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episode of The Geek First Podcast.
I'm the clown Prince of Eggnog. Trust

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now I'm joined by Dylan Moss.
That's Muss. Yes, it is a

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it's a good old duo newscast.
I don't think this hasn't happened since we

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have done a weekly Geek or something. Because it was US four and Theo's

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like, Tato's going to town.
I think Friday. Yeah, he least,

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actually no, I'm back, and
it's like, I can't do that.

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Okay, fine, curriculum. He
was the first one to respond.

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He's like, mold down, let's
do it, and then schoolwork and stuff

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like that. You know, but
that that's fine. We don't need them

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really, you know, they don't. They have nothing to add to desk

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stranding. That might be a bit
much. I think we're pretty flexible here

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if a couple, if one or
two guys drop out, you know,

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there will still be two of us
here till the end of time. I

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think we're kind of the way I've
There's been many iterations I fake, especially

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after retro. Now I feel like
we're much like the X Men team and

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the X Men ninety seven. Oh
yeah, yeah, we're like rogue will

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just be gone for six episodes in
right, yeah yeah, Or there's there's

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also like a big team up episode
and that's like a big review or something

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like that, or like the video
game Wars, like oh, we're all

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come together, but then something like
happens and they get taken out somewhere.

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So it is. It is a
lot like because I feel like even an

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X Men, you know, you'll
have like I feel like there was a

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time where me and you were doing
tons of duo cast reviews and news.

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We still like do side quest stuff, but even that's not super often.

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But yeah, I feel like there's
there's kind of ebbs and flows of gig

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first podcast over eight years now that
that kind of happens, that does happen.

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Yeah, it's crazy, but yeah, no, we're it's a little

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PROMPTU newscast because the next few weeks
it's a lily a lidiation that doesn't make

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that lidiation is like a law thing. I don't know what I'm all conjocted.

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There is a law related thing in
our topics tonight, So maybe that's

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there is. Unfortunately there is yeah
litigation going on. Yeah, litigation,

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that's if it doesn't even work for
what I was saying and stuff like that.

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So I was gonna say, uh
yeah, no, it's because the

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next week there'll be some stuff because
I know you got a side quest pre

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recorded, ye, and then I'll
probably do a trast told you on the

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Auckamand box office because I'm very curious
about that because it's it's not looking too

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hot, so I'm always excited to
see it in the discord. Yeah,

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apparently everyone's sharing pictures of their theaters
and there's no one in those seats.

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Yeah. Well, Kirklin had a
good joke today. He bought his ticket

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and he's like, oh, it's
doubled since I last got it, and

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there because there's only two tickets bought, so there's two. Yeah, I'm

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pretty yeah, he's not wrong.
I'll take a look. But I think,

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uh, I think we're rocking.
Like a full six people in the

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first showing of the night is crazy, you know. I for some reason,

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I didn't expect it to blow up
like the first one did. Billion

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dollar movie, but that's quite a
seperior. It's it's very It's like Captain

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Marvel right from a billion dollar movie
too. I don't know how much did

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that movie make, like three hundred
dollars or something. The people that have

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bought their tickets, they are two
rows behind us that they're gone, right,

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I told the ticket right now.
It's just that's me Kirk Taylor right

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there, because they still they got
rid of their ticket. That's I don't

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see that very often. Wow.
I hope that'd be a great experience to

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have, like just us three watching
Awkamen, because I'm expecting an all right

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time. But yeah, I know, and it's funny because like I know,

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we'll talk probably more about this in
the new year when we do our

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draft and stuff. But yeah,
it's a private screening. Oh, I

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suppose got the right nerd. Where
a litany, A litany is a good

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job, right? What is the
what is the definition of a litany?

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Is just like a lot I think
several things, maybe something like that series

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of petitions for use in church services
on a tedious recital repetitive series of repetitive

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repetition. It works, but I
feel like it's taking a new meaning in

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this. Yeah, I was gonna
say I feel like, I'm not the

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only one that's heard that, but
I've I've definitely adopted that. But no,

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it's kind of it's crazy because we
can't just say because we were talking

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about on the Acaman predictions where the
domestic made three hundred million but the internationals

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eight hundred million, so international really
cared that market. But even in China,

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it opened up there yesterday and it
had a five million dollar opening,

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but the first one had a twenty
three million dollars. So it's not like,

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oh, in North America thing,
it's just like everywhere where. It's

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just things changed between like COVID in
general just changed everything, like life and

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rules and stuff like that. We
don't have this at the top. One

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hungred Iggy says, what are your
thoughts on WBD buying paramount. I think

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we'll talk about that when it gets
more further along, because right now it's

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just the talks. But that's how
the Microsoft thing happened, the Disney Fox

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thing happened, and Warner brother last
time they got bought by Discovery, So

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I think it is in the talks. I'm always in the camp of I'm

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not always for just a bunch of
big studios like, I know, there's

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always that goo joke that like Google, Microsoft and Apple will own everything one

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day, and I feel like the
more movie studios we lose, that happens,

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and we just also lose like variety, you know. I think that

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that's why we cheer for like the
A twenty fours and the Neons like making

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parasite. Like that's my worry is
the more there is or I guess the

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less studio options are are just the
less variety we could get and giving me

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the curse. So uh, as
far as I'm concerned, they're crushing it

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and they don't need to be bought. What DC character would you put cast

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Nathan Fielder as? Oh Ship?
I wish I had. I wish I

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had a deeper knowledge of DC characters. What Justice League care? Actually know

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what I'm gonna actually, I won't
want to. Yeah, that's what I

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was gonna say. It has to
be Joker, right, Joker? I

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feel like, who's a character who's
just like very socially like a social paria

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exit I mean, I guess Joker
is sort of a social parrior. I

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got I was singing more of the
awkward one. You haven't seen him yet.

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I hope you get to see him
at some point. There's a batman

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Ville named the ventuol Quist and he
has a puppet named Scarface, and the

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whole thing is that he he pretends
that the puppets alive, but he's really

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a and he's a really shy,
awkward guy. But he pretends the pot

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the puppet is alive and he's a
mob boss. So we could get Nathan

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doing the voice of the puppet and
he can play like this, he can

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play like the shy, like awkward
guy. So I feel like that's the

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two roles with him because he's very
versatile. So well, because you mentioned

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him and I looked up this character
like, well, Naman Fielder looks as

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nothing like Yes, of course ventriloquis
guy, but no, I could see

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him playing the puppet. Yeah,
we can take that out right, Like

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that doesn't matter. We changed look
and everything. So no, we we'll

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talk about in the new year when
we rate our top shows. But at

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the curse has got me on.
I'm on Dylan's Nathan Fielder band awake,

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and Dylan'll always get recommended to me. And I just need that one thing

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to get me in and that's Emma
Stone, she got me in and now

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watched all Nathan for you and oh, I've caught up last episode, new

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episode more and I think there should
be a new episode to Moore. I'm

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worried with the Christmas break if the
skip are they for sure show skip a

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week with the Christmas stuff, But
I hope not that's true. I'm hoping

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it's a bit. It's too early
for that to be the issue. But

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also, like, do you know
how many episodes it is? I think

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it's ten. It's a full ten, which I think it's funny. Yeah,

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which is funny because they kept talking
about like they had a ten series

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orders. I feel like there's kind
of like some sort of fourth wall thing

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going on there, you know with
the show. I see now Queen,

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what is it green Queen? Now
you know? Oh yeah, yeah,

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the last episode was so good.
Oh yeah, it's like myer supposed to

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people not watch him and go watch
The Curse. It's fantastic. But just

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like, I love their doing this
whole dynamic now where it's for the other

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guy, just making him just look
like a complete idiot. Any Safty is

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so fucking good and oh yeah,
oh yeah, and his look with his

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hair and all the rings. He
just he feels like like Jesus from The

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Big Lebowski has kind of that energy
to yeah, it's great, well and

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the thing about that, and then
he was an Appenheim in this year,

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like two completely different roles and stuff. But oh no, I can't remember

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the full conversation, but I think
there he was talking to something about smoking

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again my wife died and like open
smoking, no driving, like he was

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like he was not on the character
doesn't want the person to ask, and

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that, Yeah, there's just such
people. Because like I was somebody like

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I like the first two episodes,
but I just felt like they're like a

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little too long and I was like, Okay, what's the hook and now

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we're in there man, And yeah, Nathan, especially after watching Nathan for

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You, I'm kind of surprised how
much range the guy has, like in

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the acting sphere, like they're two
very different stuff and like last week it's

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a minus boy again. But when
he got mad that lady when she said

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you gotta check her, and he's
like, watch your bitch chers. Yeah,

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they don't want the house anymore.
Yeah, it's it's everyone, go

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watch it. It's a it's a
it's a really good show. He's perfect

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as a role in that character of
just like everyone kind of beating up on

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him, being mean to him.
He just takes it and he's like hateable,

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but you're like rooting for him at
the same time. But yeah,

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it's I showed himly because sometimes she
thinks the names for you, Shanania gets

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there a bit much. But like
the point turning the show was that comedy

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room one when they go around and
he does like that's something click for me,

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or was like Okay, I'm like
I was in, but like I'm

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way more in and that just like
he does that so well that that very

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awkward making fun of themselves sort of
deal. But so rehearsals next I assume

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maybe even over the Christmas break.
Perhaps it's only six episodes. I think

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one season. It's very easy,
easy watching that it'll probably when I get

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back because one then I'll have the
house alone because it Emily kind of likes

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it but it's not exactly her bag
and then kids around. So I think

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January is when the rehearsal. For
sure, I'll be I'll be in there.

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So yeah, no, no,
were you from us here? The

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Percy Jacks Show dropped to yesterday.
I haven't heard it yet, but not

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are hearing great things. I've heard. My timeline has been mixed. I've

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the critics wise. People are saying
great things, but my timeline is mixed

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as far as people I know.
But we talked about a few weeks ago.

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We don't. Uh, we're not
in the Percy Jackson life. I

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have no affiliation with it. So
sorry, s bubs. Maybe someday,

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what character would you like to see? Do Jonathan Major signed DC? I

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think we'll talk about that, but
I don't think that's gonna be happening at

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any point at any time soon.
You know, Yeah, No, I

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don't like that's a bit comeback story, I guess, but yes, as

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don't. We're here, we're gonna
talk about some news because, as I

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was trying to say, we went
on a whole tangent. Next week there

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will be trustotal you in side Quest, but that's pretty much shit. And

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then the week after that's when we're
be getting into like, you know,

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twenty twenty twenty four video game preview
and movie preview. We did last of

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this show, so lots of we're
gonna be more like evergreen stuff. I'm

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sure if there's like a massive breaking
thing like I don't know, Henry Cavill

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gets cast as link like, we'll
cover it. But most of stuff we're

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gonna it's mostly just gonna be some
ketchup the adult version, of course,

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not the not the child version.
Don't you know He's he's always being cast

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some stuff, you know, right? Who would be his young link?

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If they do like Oakreen of Time
thing where there's time travel, Davin Court

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sweat the news. Superman just get
like the new guy. I don't know

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what he looks like, but I
I he looks if he's Superman, Yeah,

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they look pretty. Or Tom holl
in the Easy Go To you know,

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yeah, which will could happen,
but yeah, yeah, but yeah

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go Uh side Quest Game, the
Years Line, kirkl and Taylor's are out

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there now, so check that out. Uh, there is a Better Watch

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Out Christmas retrospective, and there is
a Sucker Punch Snyder Punch retro Sucker Punch

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Zack Snyer retrospective. Yeah, me
and Kirkland will be reviewing that on Friday,

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so that'll be tons of fun.
And I guess there's already the trailer

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dropping for part two to more,
which is very odd because the first part's

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not even out, so they're dropping
the trailer for part two, So I

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think I can't watch that. I
don't think you said Rebel Moon, by

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the way, but you're sorry Rebel
Moon. There you go, yeah there,

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Yeah, how about this? Don't
d H Henry cavill on a kid

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body like Chris Evans and Cap.
I mean, they didn't get away with

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fucking CGI and a mustache off the
guys, so I don't think they could

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get around with dg AM like that. If the mustache is like the easiest

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of CGI, I would imagine.
So I don't think that's a good idea.

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but yeah, so let's get into
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game changer sort of thing. So
Johnathan Majors, we don't need to go

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and what there is and what they're
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like the Depenhammer heard thing, people
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but either way it doesn't matter because
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found guilty on two and that's marble
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hit the eject button. Let's get
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quick. It was the like the
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because I was like, oh,
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but no, it was very fast
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of that. So question well quickly
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litigation as you are, but yeah, with how quickly it is, like

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is that something that they would have
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curtains knowledge of or was it really
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they if they the moment that verdict
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would immediately drop the statement at that
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sure, because you never know which
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you'd maybe get like like a little
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hey, it's not going his way, you know, like I think most

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beforehand what's gonna go down. So
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they probably just had a meeting of
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gonna go this way, and if
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weird topic talked about. I do
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about this like at nauseum of how
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right and then all say they regretted
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it is difficult because there's people that
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and it is still like a family
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first you know, posts hitting the
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bunch of stuff of like whoever the
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mind, this is nothing or something
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the news, so I wasn't paying
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one, yes, yeah, and
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right, because then there's the other
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was not guilty for us. That's
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it's not a clear cup but that's
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there's great Laar podcasts out there about
litigation, you know, lessen that we

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get to talk about, like the
nerdy, geeky stuff, and we always

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went about like, hey, what's
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saws all his points, so take
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once this happened, the Scooper's get
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to them and just scuttle But going
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time don't really know what they're gonna
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referred to as just Avengers five.
Now it's not Kang Dynasty. It's internally

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referred which could go back. But
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because I think we tell us a
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official, what do you what do
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because like, is it just good
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actor, you know, it's a
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at the same time, like does
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it's tied to that character. I'm
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want or would you think that it's
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you even have like a like are
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do you have like a certain path
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you want to see you know,
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see Kang Ganner and see Kang for
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I've really gone back and forth on
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with or without Majors. They would
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all time because you because of the
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an actor of that caliber who can
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in terms of the character itself,
it works. But I think the more

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and more we've talked about this,
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even just seeing the state of these
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yea, drop Kang Dynasty as the
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of the internal talks, and do
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they do, they can figure out
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so we can still get to Secret
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many characters who could do that stuff. And then also just with where we

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left well, first of all with
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but also the quality of that movie
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really just drop that character there and
that's like a full character arc. Then

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you can move on. And obviously
that wasn't always the plan, but I

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just feel like they've set themselves up
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because they did Loki before all this
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up to pivot, like I would
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were two movies or a movie and
it was huge. It was a big

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billion dollar movie and you're setting up
this character here, but it was like

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no, A Man was the movie
that had the character, and then it

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was like these TV the TV show
that further further that character. So I

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think if that it was even swapped, Man was the TV show and Balm,

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mean maybe a different story. But
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the dice of landed, I think
this is a easy pivot. And then

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you just have so many options right
now, you X Men stuff fantastic,

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four other characters that I don't know
too much about. There's there's so many

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directions you can go. So I
just feel like that's the easier, better,

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safer thing to do at this point. Yeah, it's it's tough for

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me because also a cryptocluse is Dylan. I love your hat like's I guess

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he just thinks you're enhanced superior to
mine. Eh, I feel like mine's

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maybe a bit fluffier, but yeah, I didn't pretty similar. So Emily

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bought this not knowing this was as
long, so I did not want one

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as long, but I plan on
getting another one, so h Yeah,

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it's funny that I think I'm on
the same trajectory with you here where I

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was always you gotta recast. I
feel like, even on the day of

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I'm like, nn if they don't
recast, I'm disappointed. And I still

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will be disappointed to a sense,
because I still think Came the character has

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potential. I think there's things they
could do, and I think it is

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odd for them because even if they're
changing stuff that was supposed to be their

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big bad right, that was supposed
to lead at all. And that's where

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I went, Okay, there's there's
so much potential. But I do feel

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like as time goes on, even
just the mere days, Mike, for

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some reason, I don't know if
it is just best to like, is

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it worth it? I wonder if
it's it's best to even come back to

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King but at a different time,
like kind of the same way we think

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they're gonna do Ch'challa right, where
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I don't mean ch'chilla junior. I
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and black panther, but it'll be
like a different version or a different universe

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where it's like, oh, it's
not as bad because this is, you

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know, a new adaptation of the
character. It's not the one that was

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based with Chadwick Boseman, right,
So I think maybe you could do that

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that years later to bring him back. It's just and I guess it's just

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purely the calm of family that it's
just disappointing if it's just like ant Man

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and Loki. You know, it
was such a small mini run. And

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as we've said before, like at
least I've been saying if it was that

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small mini run, I at least
wish they did like a mini Avengers movie

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like they did. I shouldn't even
say many. But now when we compare

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it to there's the Avengers movie,
then there's the Event movie, right,

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and I wish that instead of ant
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where they just be king and that
was it, like at least like something

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would happen with him. But I
think, you know, you have the

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box office of Kwamedia and now there's
some stuff tied to that character. Like

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to me, this is like what
I think they do, and I think

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they will look at it as like
a potential pivot. I don't even know

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if it's like going away from that
character completely. But I agree with you

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where even Loki when they go like, oh yeah, the six one sixth,

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they took care of it. I
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of saying yeah, like the Kang's
were taking care of Sure, you have

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that Council of Kangs, but the
same way. Like remember we in Garns

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of Galaxy, we had Zandar and
we had John c Riley and Glenn cos

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and then in Finneymore they just told
us that Thanos like wiped that planet off

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the map and he had the Stone. I think you do the same thing

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with that Council of like there was
a threat and it was just taken off

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screen. Even if that is a
king, I don't know. Also,

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they do like if they get cheeky
and use a character that is like a

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Kang variant, but they don't call
them Kang, you know. Like there's

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a character called the Beyonder, which
lots of people thought that might be a

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Kang variant in the MCU. So
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I know literically that's not a normally
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but that's what people have said,
Like you could you could fashion some of

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that into that sort of character.
So I think for me, I guess

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just the worry is and I guess
it all depends on what they're planning to

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do. Now. I know the
natural like break glass reaction is doom.

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I just don't want doom. If
it's the idea that we've talked about that,

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if there's some sort of reset,
it's like, I want I want

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that man saved. I want that
to be a big build up. And

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I think if he's just like the
bandage, that's just going to cause more

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problems because then you went through King
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He can still be big because technically
Thanos was only in Guardians and then

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infinnywhere endgame right, So it's like
it's and Thanos felt like such a big

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deal, so you still could do
that. I just I just want it

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to feel the same way. When
they bought Fox and five, he was

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like, well, we're not bringing
the X Men in right now because we

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want to stick to our plan.
We don't want to rush it. So

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that's my only like reflex when because
it has to be doom, that's cool,

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but I don't want them to kind
of waste him too, not waste,

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but you know what I mean,
Like, that's two big bads down

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in one phase. You know,
Yeah, what if uh, what if

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the pivot is Loki again? You
bring Loki back in? Yeah, like

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this new and improved changed Loki.
Uh as like that. I'm talking strictly

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from like that band aid perspective you're
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Doom or I don't know any villain. Really, it's like, oh,

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yeah, this is our this is
clearly our our plan B in the way

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that we've seen other movies kind of
fail with that before. But I don't

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know, is that Does that make
any sense in terms of the multiverse?

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Noess of it now, I don't
know. Maybe it undoes some of the

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character development you get with Loki in
terms of this turn to the good side

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or something, but there could be
some way to just spin that up,

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or he could maybe maybe he doesn't. I don't know. I'm trying to

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think. I guess you'd probably want
some other villain in there too alongside him,

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But I think you could do it
in like a maybe like a civil

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war sort of way, because I
don't think you can make him a straight

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up villain or bad guy, because
I think he's progressed so well, and

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I think that some some people view
him as like their favorite thing of these

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like posts end game, right,
So I think if they take him make

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him a villain, you do risk. So you risk like some people like

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myself and other people have a scarlet
witch and multiverse madness where it hurts it

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a little. So I feel like
you could try and do maybe a civil

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war where it's like he is the
opposing figure, but he is still like

404
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,240
doing it for the right reasons,
Like I guess I was Thanos right in

405
00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:26,000
his mind he was doing it for
the right reasons, and then an endgame

406
00:23:26,039 --> 00:23:29,279
he's just like, nah, I'm
just gonna just I feel like that one

407
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,400
is kind of like, Okay,
it's a known variable. You have a

408
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,160
well cast actor in that role.
It feels like something that's easier, quicker,

409
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,160
maybe even not easier, but quicker
to get off the ground if you

410
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,880
pivot that direction storry wise, I
don't know what you do. But at

411
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,480
the end of the day, if
you have Loki as like some big villain,

412
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,519
you get a bunch of other cool
favorite characters in there. Are people

413
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:49,720
really going to care that much,
Like they'll still go see that, you

414
00:23:49,759 --> 00:23:52,519
know, yeah, exactly, they'll
They'll still go. And I think it's

415
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:56,440
just like as bad as it sounds. I think with the multiverse concept,

416
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,920
if it is like the Jackman and
the Spider Man and everything like that,

417
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,680
I think you just gotta find a
somewhat decent villain. I think they were

418
00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,839
obviously looking for their next Stanos right
and other big Avengers, but also a

419
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,480
villain that people were like, oh, this is a great performance and a

420
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:14,839
great role, and they wanted that. But I'm not sure, and I've

421
00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:18,680
always said before that I think Glactus
is kind of a maybe not a good

422
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,920
idea, but maybe maybe it is. Now it is just like a one

423
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,160
in because like to me, I've
always said, like he's just a big

424
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,839
guy these planets. There's not much
you can do with him, So maybe

425
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,279
that's what you do, even though
I don't, I don't. I don't

426
00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:36,039
love the idea of all these multiverse
heroes we've loved the past is returning to

427
00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:40,319
fight some big CGI think I think
there was something great of seeing like a

428
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,519
Toby and a Jackman act against an
actor like Majors right, like that back

429
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:48,400
and forth like Downy and Brolin had
and stuff. So I don't know.

430
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,200
So that's why I guess the other
thing is too we are in the moment

431
00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:55,039
and I feel like it's the same
thing like James Gunn where that happened,

432
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:56,640
and then as time went on it
wasn't as bad. And the good thing

433
00:24:56,759 --> 00:24:59,759
is because Mike says, like,
the tricky thing is how do you pivot

434
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:02,319
fat enough to have a villain for
the end of the multiverse Soka, that

435
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,240
isn't Kang, which we're kind of
talking about. But the good thing is

436
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,160
like you have Deadpool next year,
and then the year after Thunderbolts, cap

437
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:14,240
Blade, and Fantastic four. Other
than Fantastic Four, I don't think those

438
00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:17,960
other three projects are multiverse stuff.
I think they're just like character based.

439
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,799
So really, by time, when
you get to twenty twenty six, the

440
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,119
idea of someone else playing King or
Kang being around might not feel as bad,

441
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,759
you know, because I think in
the moment, we're like, oh,

442
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:30,319
this is like, you know,
storyline stuff hasn't gone great. Quantum

443
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,079
it didn't go great. We have
the major stuff, but maybe in a

444
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,119
year and a half when they announce, hey, we've cast Kang, it'll

445
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,000
feel a little different. So like
I think, if I'm leaning away,

446
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:44,440
I still want them to try and
I hope that's the route to go of

447
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,359
do a recast, see what you
can do. I still think my suggestion

448
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:51,319
is to have fun with it,
where I think every version of Kang it

449
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:52,839
should be like Doctor Who from now
and then it's an actor every time.

450
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,440
I don't think it should be one
guy or girl. I think it'd be

451
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,720
really fun of Kang's and five projects
and we got these five actors and we're

452
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200
gonna have a good time because it
just I think there's some some fun versatility.

453
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,759
Plus then you're not putting all your
eggs and one vast I like thematically

454
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,440
in terms of the multiverse saga stuff
like what did we really have for that?

455
00:26:11,519 --> 00:26:15,559
Like obviously Loki's there, you have
Doctor Strange, but Doctor Strange doesn't

456
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:19,680
really feel like it's leading towards something. It just feels like its own credit

457
00:26:19,759 --> 00:26:23,079
right when it's like incursions are happening, and that's like supposed to set up

458
00:26:23,079 --> 00:26:27,400
these these worlds colliding. The Marvels
is like a multiverse movie. Like the

459
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,640
last minute, you know all of
them are all in the last minute,

460
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,839
they're not really you know yeah,
Like I mean, and even if you

461
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,720
think back to like the Infinity saga, it's not like every single movie had

462
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,079
like a Stone is a huge thought
point. It's almost like they kind of

463
00:26:41,079 --> 00:26:45,039
tied that stuff together after the fact, you know, to something some of

464
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,799
they did. Oh yeah, so
and I mean you you have ant Man.

465
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,400
But I just feel like that's a
throwaway, you know, because of

466
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,400
Majors, because of how poorly that
movie did, how bad it was,

467
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,839
you just you just forget it exists. You hit the delete button on that

468
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,799
one. If you can that it's
gonna be like The New Incredible Hulk,

469
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:04,039
the same way that a whole generation
forgot about that movie. That's gonna be

470
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,119
Quantum Mania. Between the box off
as the reception and Majors. It's just

471
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,279
gonna be this movie that never gets
talked about. It's not gonna be in

472
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:15,440
like their Marvel studios like opening.
I don't think if, like how we

473
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,519
talked about in uh Endgame Home,
they went back to Dark World. I

474
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:22,240
don't think they go back to like
the Quantumedia movie. You know, like

475
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,839
there's it's it literally is just like
a it's like a dead project. You

476
00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:30,000
know, it's just out there and
that's crazy that like it's almost been a

477
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:33,160
full year, but still it's crazy. It's this counter year that that came

478
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,359
out feels so long ago, but
it was our first twenty twenty three movie,

479
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,960
right, So yeah, I know, I feel like you really just

480
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,839
I mean, I guess we still
have a few characters from that, but

481
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,680
really the only new character would be
like Cassie, if you consider that new

482
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,680
new character or whatever, Stinger or
Statue or whatever her name is, Stature

483
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,720
and Stinger. Yeah, yeah,
the double Yeah, Stinger and Stature.

484
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:53,920
Yeah, it shouldn't go by them
both at the same time. But you

485
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,160
know, Statue is the one in
Marvel Snap, That's the one I'm familiar

486
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,960
with. But yeah, it was
read who Stinger is? I think they

487
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,119
going with Stature. Yeah, but
yeah, And you know what's funny in

488
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,359
retrospect, we always said, oh
it was laying how the end of that

489
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,519
he didn't get stuck there with Kang
and all this jazz, And now in

490
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,119
retrospect, it's good that the movie
just ends with Paul Rudd just winning and

491
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,680
that Kang getting sucked away, right, because then if you that's like another

492
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,119
like loose end, you don't really
have to tie up, so yeah,

493
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,720
we'll see. So like in your
in your core, you know, you

494
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,960
gotta what was a gun in your
head? And what was you got to

495
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:32,079
see a movie with? It was
our old definitely a gun. Oh and

496
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,680
you and you won the lottery if
you done gun to your head? Yes,

497
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,880
what do you think they do do
the final replace? Yeah? Recast

498
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,119
replace, simple as that. Yeah, I think I think we forget.

499
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,880
I think we forget that Kang ever
ever happened? Okay because even then,

500
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,920
like I don't know, and Loki, it's like it wasn't even called that,

501
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,920
you know, so it's kind of
ey to move past it. And

502
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,680
then the Kang and like Quantumnia,
which is already forgotten, is as as

503
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,039
you just mentioned, like deadish.
So yeah, I think I think you

504
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:10,400
forget that. That's the gun to
my head lottery ticket. You forget?

505
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,880
What if? I mean, I
say recast, but what if they did

506
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,960
something where they cast someone as a
villain and they didn't reveal they were king

507
00:29:18,119 --> 00:29:22,880
until that said movie, Like there
was no build up of saying, oh,

508
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:30,079
we've cast Denzel Washington as Kang,
Like what if it was just we've

509
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:33,559
cast Denzel Washington, he's gonna be
a villain and Avengers and in that movie

510
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,359
you reveal that it's Kang, and
again you don't even have to make it.

511
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:38,839
You don't even have to say.
He can just quickly mention like he's

512
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,160
a varian a king, this and
that, like you don't even have to

513
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,720
say because it's he who remains victor
timely, like you could have a villain

514
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,279
like let's say here's the thing.
Who gets excited about that? At this

515
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:52,599
point? Do you pop off in
the theater for that? Well? No,

516
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,279
but I guess it helps that connudy
maybe of when they they set up

517
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:57,400
King and the whole time we'd be
like, oh, I guess they bannon

518
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,279
it. But then it comes up
like oh no, this secretly, like

519
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:03,200
what if they cast the beyonder?
But then they re feel like, actually

520
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,599
I was a vary end of cane. I took out all those other Kangs.

521
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,279
I just think, who cares?
Who cares about that? I don't

522
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:17,039
know. I feel like Phase four
has been such a mess at this point.

523
00:30:17,599 --> 00:30:18,799
Uh faith, Oh, I don't
even know where we are at this

524
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:22,000
point. Yeah we're five now?
Yeah? God? Yeah, secret invasion

525
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,359
and I and I talk about this
stuff every single week, Like I just

526
00:30:26,519 --> 00:30:30,559
I just think, who cares?
I just I just think it's you have

527
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,039
this much, you have this many
problems, you have this these messy phases

528
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,880
like stop trying to make fetch happen? You know, just move on.

529
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,599
I'll play devil that can say they
recast, I say they wait, they

530
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,000
wait a long, big, huge
actory Denzel style like caliber. Do you

531
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:53,599
think it's tough because there's probably enough
people in Hollywood that might go and side

532
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,160
with him and feel like he's innocent
or they were, you know, really

533
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,279
guilt. I think so yeah,
because I I think they're is like not

534
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:06,720
to get into like race politics,
but there's a lot of because I've seen

535
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,079
this a lot talked about in the
articles about it, where the idea that

536
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
it is a white woman that did
the charges on him, there is a

537
00:31:12,759 --> 00:31:19,079
history of lots of those cases being
proven. Like, it's a tough I

538
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:22,839
think the dynamics are of it are
very tricky, and I think there's a

539
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:27,000
lot of actors that even if they
didn't think he was not guilty, they

540
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,799
just would not want to touch it. So I think it's tough that sure,

541
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:32,920
you can go get like some no
name that's a great actor. I'm

542
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160
sure there's somebody that would want to
like become King, get a note role.

543
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,559
But I feel like if they come
out of the game and say we're

544
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:42,400
doing King again, it has to
be somebody of Note. I think it

545
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,359
has to be because I think if
you get a no name, you go

546
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680
my route of you don't say it's
Kang yet, and you kind of build

547
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,240
up to that, and that's kind
of like a Voldemort where he's around,

548
00:31:52,319 --> 00:31:55,960
but you just keep hearing about Kang
or whatever the beyonder and then boom,

549
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,480
this guy's Kang. Where if it's
a recast right away, they wait a

550
00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,119
couple of years and they get big
time actor that we all that we love

551
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:08,079
and has a very clean track record
and never done any nicest guy in the

552
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:12,240
world. Viigi just does it himself. He's like, I can't trust anyone

553
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,519
except for myself. Get me in
there. Do you do you think that

554
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:20,079
uh with because obviously we have the
post credits scene in Quantumnia where there's there's

555
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,759
kind of these three main Kang variants
that are introduced, and there's like a

556
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,599
million other aliens and things in the
in the background. But do you think

557
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:30,759
we actually see like Cann the Conqueror
from Quantumania, Victor Timeley or He who

558
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:35,200
Remains, like those specific variants,
because I think the recast element is a

559
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,119
lot easier if you factor in that, like, Okay, all these versions

560
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:40,160
that you saw on screen before don't
aren't actually coming back. It's not someone

561
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,839
playing that that version of the character, so you can it's not weird if

562
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,839
even like you know, how Deffleely
differently he acted as Timely versus he who

563
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:52,559
remains and the cadence of his voice
and whatnot. So yeah, no,

564
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,160
never ever, I don't think because
he remained it makes it easier than for

565
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,799
recast. So I think that that
puts some more yeah water in that bucket,

566
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,319
because they all were kind of defeated, right, like can conquer Gods

567
00:33:01,359 --> 00:33:06,359
sucked up, He Remains was killed, then Victor Timeley just end up being

568
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,200
like a kid again, and we're
gonna see if that cycle restarts whet the

569
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,359
book and everything, right, so
they're all kind of squared away. So

570
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,400
that and that's where I think like
the Council of Kangs would get the on

571
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,359
the Zandar treatment of oh I killed
them all because they're all Inferior and yeah,

572
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,680
they were all in one timeline that
got pruned, and you're gonna go

573
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,720
like what I want you remember God
Alien? What was that movie that came

574
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,920
out a couple of years ago,
Alien Covenant, Alien Cove? Yes,

575
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,079
so remember he got the movie Prometheus
and they left a lot of stuff hanging.

576
00:33:39,119 --> 00:33:42,039
We're like, how are they gonna
answer this? And then when they

577
00:33:42,119 --> 00:33:45,480
meet up David, you had a
quick fifteen seconds slice of data on a

578
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:50,640
ship. David gets so much fucking
screen time on this podcast. We love

579
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,599
them, but remember I love him. Remember when he's on the ship and

580
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,119
he finds this planet of the engineers
and he just releases bombs on the mall

581
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,960
and kills them all. Do you
remember that guy? I think I remember

582
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,039
that. Yeah. We all complained
because we're like, oh, what's gonna

583
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:07,240
happen with the Promevius plot points?
And they just killed they They sold it

584
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,559
all in fifteen seconds. They'll do
the same thing with a new actor that

585
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:14,280
he shows up and he just drops
a bunch on the Council of Kang Seah.

586
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,159
I know, like, got a
lot of people behind me tonight you

587
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:22,920
got just bomb. Yeah, Santa's
elf on the shelf moving around. But

588
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:25,599
anyways, that's what I think they
do, is they just show this Kang

589
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:30,119
being powerful and just taking everybody out. I do think. And this was

590
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,639
gonna bring up because we you,
me and Breaks talked about a long time

591
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:36,639
ago on our Avengers cast of Mike
saying, what do you guys think about

592
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:42,400
a villain team of passified villains from
different multi verses a threat of uh,

593
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:45,559
you know, Yeah, to me, that's a twofer, because, like

594
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,440
I thought, the easiest layup that
they should have done to establish new Avengers

595
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,159
was a Masters of Evil, like
just take people like Zemo, put them

596
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:59,400
on a team in verse you know, Sam, Carol who like est team.

597
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,599
And yeah, I think we've all
said because there's a rumor, we're

598
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:05,920
gonna talk about it in the uh
in the x Men portion of I'll bring

599
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,159
it here now, part of the
report was, well, in the next

600
00:35:08,199 --> 00:35:12,880
saga, they're gonna focus on the
X Men and they're gonna have the Avengers

601
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,400
step aside. And I'm like,
step aside, Like they're not even in

602
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,639
front right now. We haven't seen
I say this all time, but it's

603
00:35:20,679 --> 00:35:23,000
been five years we've not seen an
Avengers team. There. It was twenty

604
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:28,239
twelve, twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen. There's three years between each of those

605
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,599
three Prius Avengers movies, and now
it's been five years, you know,

606
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:36,360
so it's like step aside. Like
I feel like every day through from yeah

607
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,079
game, we have yeah, like
we've done like like literally in the story

608
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:43,840
and when it said five years later, we've like you said, we've done

609
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,639
that in real time. So I
think every day that Avengers brand is starting

610
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:49,800
to lose more and more. And
to me, that was always the easy

611
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,480
one, is Masters of Evil versus
there a typical Masters of Evil roster?

612
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,920
Is there any like like three or
four characters that are Emo is usually one

613
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,719
of those. He's like the original
leader. Let me get the original members

614
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:00,920
here were cooking with here you gotta
have you got? Well? I guess

615
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,679
Zimo is very different than comics,
but I feel like he with the Zemo

616
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,639
that we have in uh in our
mcuhre, I think you'd be perfect.

617
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,920
Yeah, and you could have bathed
him up right, like he gets a

618
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,719
suit or something like that. So
I guess something that can't be right.

619
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,719
I don't think doctor Octopus was an
original member. He might have been in

620
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,679
there, but I don't think he
was the AWA. I mean, he

621
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,360
was never a Sinister six guy,
right, he was more They've all been

622
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,639
sinistor stick guys eventually, right,
you know, oh try to find But

623
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,360
yeah, Zimo's usually the leader black
Night, which that could have been a

624
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:35,519
fun way to introduce uh Ken Harrington, but they've done that. Ultron was

625
00:36:35,559 --> 00:36:38,400
one, and so you could easily
do that all Like that would be fun

626
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,920
too, Like you get Zemo,
you get Ultron coming back? Do you

627
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,039
do what if Ultron like the No, you don't do that's a little opie.

628
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,119
I guess he's pretty strong. If
you do him, you make him

629
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:54,599
like the multi verse saga villain,
you know. Uh. I love that

630
00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:59,280
idea because I think one thing we've
talked about a lot over the course of

631
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,280
NCU is that they had like a
villain problem for years and years. The

632
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,920
villains were kind of weak for the
first three phases there and then we then

633
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,760
we got some strong ones with Killmonger
and Fantos and stuff like that. But

634
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,039
I feel like it'd be it'd be
awesome to revisit some of those earlier villains

635
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:14,480
and we kind of you know,
we've done that a bit, Like you

636
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:20,199
once kind of Quantuminus coming over tonight
with a yellow jacket coming back as Modoc,

637
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239
which is like a very weird transformation
there. But I would I would

638
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,239
love to visit some of those earlier
villains. You could even introduce one or

639
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,199
two more in there. The Leader, the Leader they're bringing back for Cat

640
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:35,280
four would have been perfect in that
spot of like part of like, oh

641
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,880
where's he been for a while?
Abomination, like I still like she hauled,

642
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,360
but before they did what they did
with tim Roff, you could have

643
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,320
used them there, Like I just
think that would have been a very big

644
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,920
layup. Okay, So RJ says, Abomination and Chances were also famous members

645
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,480
of the team. Yeah, I
saw Enchantress so and yet apparently talk off.

646
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Apparently Dalkhop popped off a lot.
So maybe uh maybe get Alfred Molina

647
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,760
in there one more time. Yes, that'd be great, one more time.

648
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Why are you limiting this man?
Let's get that's truely ten years of

649
00:38:02,639 --> 00:38:06,440
uh Molina. Yeah, good to
see you man. He loved the hat

650
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,960
boys, happened all day. It's
gonna watch tomorrow morning. Yes, take

651
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,639
care of you. I know you're
on the later side, but yeah,

652
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,239
no that I think. But like
I said, I won't go on harp

653
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,159
on too much. I already have
we gotta do. That's a I'm gonna

654
00:38:16,159 --> 00:38:19,719
put that down in our topics though, Masters of People, we'll do a

655
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,960
longer episode. Do we really break
up what that roster could look like?

656
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,119
Yeah, no, it would be
good. And like I said, I

657
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:28,239
just think they should have that was
an easy layup. Established a new team,

658
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,679
who's the leader of the Avengers,
and then you get to this stuff

659
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,400
and I think unfortunately they're they're too
far gone. They put the cart before

660
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,400
the horse. But that's okay,
So we'll let's take our first break and

661
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800
then we're gonna talk about now some
X men. So we'll be right back,

662
00:38:43,039 --> 00:38:45,079
and we're back. So this comes
from Daniel Rpka. He's got that

663
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:50,079
broke the red one. So either
this has been the theory, either he

664
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,039
has a new source he's getting a
lot of good scoops, or what Brent

665
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,719
says is he got one right and
he's just cashing in and making a lot

666
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:59,119
of scoops. But we'll find out
in the next few years. So he

667
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
this kind of track a little bit. As far as they were meeting with

668
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:05,440
writers, a couple of months ago
and now there seems to be some details.

669
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,679
So the three biggest points are that
they're trying to much like Spider Man,

670
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,000
they want it to be different than
the other X Men ones, right,

671
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:16,280
They want to go different route.
So the at least working ideas that

672
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,000
the main character would likely be a
female. I'm imagining Geen Gray in my

673
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,679
mind. I think they would probably
go that route, and maybe not.

674
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,119
Maybe it could be Road, maybe
it could be Jubilee Hill. I don't

675
00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,719
know, but that's the idea,
and I know if people get mad.

676
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,599
It's like all the X Men movies
were like it was Hugh Jackman and Patrick

677
00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,000
Sister who like or James McAvoy like. It's always like there's not been a

678
00:39:37,039 --> 00:39:39,960
male lead and something have gone past. But the three big things where right

679
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,199
now it seems to be like the
Feat. Of course there's gonna be a

680
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,920
bunch of people on the team,
but it'd be a female lead. Magneto

681
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,679
is not slotted to be in the
first one at all, not as a

682
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,639
hero villain, just not at all. And they're eyeing mister Sinister to be

683
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,599
the main villain for the first go
round. I don't know if that means,

684
00:39:54,639 --> 00:39:58,239
if you'd be killed off or what
the deal is. But you can't

685
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960
kill Sinister. He'll turn into some
sand on the beach, like you always

686
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,840
come back, you know, whatever
sounds he makes, but you know,

687
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,960
whenever he gets hit by Scott's beams, it's hard. It's we talked about

688
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:13,239
this in one of the retro It's
like so hard to emulate his voice because

689
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,280
whatever the modulation they have in that, at least in the animated series,

690
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,079
really hard to replicate, even with
Taylor's magic that he has on the keyboard.

691
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:22,519
Yeah, so what if you you
know, you're in the pitch room

692
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,199
they're talking about this stuff. You
know, maybe maybe stuff like X Men's

693
00:40:25,199 --> 00:40:29,800
getting We talked about this when those
writers were like their announcer looking for writers,

694
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,480
and maybe they're starting to push that
a little bit faster because maybe they're

695
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:35,400
kind of like, hey, we
got to get some more big hitters in

696
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,880
here. Again. I still feel
like they shouldn't just abandon like Sam and

697
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,960
stuff Like, I feel like they
should have been pushing some of the characters

698
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,440
they have now as like hey,
we got cool Avengers. But now I

699
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,400
feel like, I don't know,
there's a whole other issue, But they

700
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,840
sit you down town and they say, you know, we're gonna have a

701
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,320
female main character, mag Neil's gonna
take a little break for a bit.

702
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,039
Obviously, we want to kind of
be like Homecoming where it's gonna be.

703
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,960
We want to tackle stuff that hasn't
happened. Alas mister Sinister as a villain

704
00:41:00,039 --> 00:41:04,159
as well, because that's one that
never got the live action treatment. John

705
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:07,519
hamm was cast him at one point, but the movie never happened, so

706
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:08,880
what he was supposed to be in
Gambit, So what do you think about

707
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,639
that? Kind of just initial working
idea that's me what they're working with,

708
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,920
or kind of giving writers of like, hey, would these topics interest you

709
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,599
in writing a movie? Yeah,
I mean I love having Sinister in there.

710
00:41:22,679 --> 00:41:25,519
That's really fun and that makes me
think that, you know, Gene

711
00:41:25,519 --> 00:41:30,119
would make sense as a as a
lead for that, just knowing that narrative.

712
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,840
And of course, my my knowledge
on Sinister is strictly X Men animated,

713
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,119
but he appears to they do a
pretty good job and the origins of

714
00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:44,599
him being obsessed with the Scummer,
the scummers, mister Summers, the Summers.

715
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:46,719
That's I feel like that's more of
a DC villain though, mister scummers,

716
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:50,760
that's the kind of deep cut character
that James Gunn would would pull out

717
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,599
of the bag. That's who Nathan
Fielder play, mister scummers. You know,

718
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:57,480
I feel like Nathan Fielder has all
over James Gunn radar, you know,

719
00:41:57,639 --> 00:41:59,679
like I feel like that's I don't
think he'll do it. I don't

720
00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,960
think field or whatever. No,
I don't think. Yeah, do you

721
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,159
think he could be like in the
Suicide Squad where James Gonn had a bunch

722
00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,159
of deal and they died off in
that first scene. I can see something

723
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:10,159
like that maybe, No, I
don't. I don't think. I don'

724
00:42:10,159 --> 00:42:14,840
think it wants to be in cool
weird things that or his own things.

725
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,119
Okay that's my I don't know him, but that's my pretty sure that's my

726
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,400
feel pression. I agree with you
on Nathan Vield. I just like gun

727
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,639
that's the type of guy who like, oh, I want him to play

728
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:27,159
some sort of weirdo in like one
of my movies, and oh yeah,

729
00:42:27,159 --> 00:42:30,000
gun would want it. Absolutely.
Yeah, you can't always get what you

730
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:34,159
want though, uh going back to
it, so obviously, yeah, sinister

731
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,559
in the gene connection makes a lot
of sense. I will say though from

732
00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:40,559
my experience, like I've never fallen
in love with any Jean Gray adaptation.

733
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:45,360
It's a character that I I don't
know why, and I guess I gotta

734
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,519
read some certain compic runs, but
it's just a character that I find it

735
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:52,639
hard to put my chips behind that
as being the leading character, just because

736
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:58,000
I just feel like she's not super
interesting and you know, dark Phoenix stuff,

737
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,480
you can get some interesting stuff going
on, not that, not that

738
00:43:00,519 --> 00:43:02,199
movie, but that storyline. There's
definitely a lot of potential there, and

739
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:05,440
I think with the right casting,
you know, throwing on a stone in

740
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,519
there, let's go, uh,
you can make it happen. But Nathan,

741
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:13,519
He'll She'll get Nathan in. But
I think I would be much more

742
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:19,559
excited for Storm or Rogue to be
that that leading in that leading role.

743
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:22,199
I don't know how that ties into
Sinister, but of course it's a whole

744
00:43:22,199 --> 00:43:23,079
team thing, so you could like
that could be. The thing is that

745
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:27,440
Gene gets captured and that's why she's
not really like a big character in the

746
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,480
movie, is because she's captured by
Sinister, which is like the reason why

747
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,639
the X Men are to go after
him. That kind of thing. But

748
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:35,840
but uh, yeah, I I
I guess Rogue because even in what is

749
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,760
the X Men? One and two, she's kind of three well not yet,

750
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,840
No, she's not really in that
one very much, right, Yeah,

751
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,159
so like in one and two,
you know, you'd say she's Lee,

752
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,239
but she's definitely a I guess she's
more of a Plaud device. Even

753
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,039
it's been a bit since I've rewatched
those one, but she's a crucial character.

754
00:43:50,079 --> 00:43:52,320
I think, especially the first one. She's she's all mcguffin the first

755
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400
one, right, because he needs
her for powers and stuff. So in

756
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,519
the second one she's around quick a
bit so. And then I think Storm

757
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,880
kind of for herself. I think
there's so much potential there in terms of

758
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,599
what you want to do with that
character, and that one might make more

759
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:07,159
sense, is like she's just the
leader of the X Men boom end of

760
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:10,639
story. I don't know how you
swing Rogue as the lead character, but

761
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,920
obviously you could make it happen.
I just would need to need to see

762
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,119
it on the screen before I could
believe it. But I think Storm,

763
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:19,840
you don't even need to talk about
so yeah, that could easily happen,

764
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,679
And yeah, really cool too.
Yeah, I think rogue you build up.

765
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:23,320
I think rogue. If she's in
there, one are kind of like

766
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,280
the plucky underdog, you know,
kind of like what she is in the

767
00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:30,079
show a bit where it's like she's
she's great, but I mean so so

768
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:32,559
much more like the show us to
some personal stuff going on, so she

769
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:37,119
can't be the most dependable there sometimes
or plus like gamuts around and stuff.

770
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:38,880
So yeah, one day we'll get
some calm books. So yeah, Jean

771
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,840
Gene's a great character. Obviously,
my character my daughter is named after her,

772
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,280
and she's she is one of the
best X men. But the movies

773
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,000
have definitely, uh, the original
trigity. She was just served to kind

774
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,280
of be there for Wolverine as some
eye candy, you know, which is

775
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,079
not. There's some true for that, but some not to what you were

776
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:59,360
saying. The two questions here from
RJ saying that I guess it would be

777
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,920
like the first roster. My only
issue with that when people bring up a

778
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:06,639
Jean Scott Beast's Angel and Iceman,
I don't think there's a world where they

779
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:08,559
have just one female and the team
to go around. I think they would

780
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:13,199
spread it out, So I think
that I feel like the best way,

781
00:45:13,199 --> 00:45:15,519
in my opinion, is a three
and three. I think it's three guys,

782
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:20,079
three girls, or just even just
like non you know, binary people

783
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,599
like I just don't think it's gonna
be five guys and a girl. I

784
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:25,679
just I don't think they'll want to
do that. Maybe that's why it's female

785
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,079
led, because it's like, oh, we just got Gene, you know,

786
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,079
so I don't know about that,
and I just it's curious because like

787
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,400
I'm curious and r J the other
question of like will Wolverine be on the

788
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,480
team all, I don't think so. And to me, it's like,

789
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,440
if these reports are they want to
be different than the other films when we

790
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,960
talked about that before with Spider Man, that's why we didn't get Goblin or

791
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:47,960
doc Ock or Uncle Ben. So
I think, like you look at that

792
00:45:49,039 --> 00:45:53,400
original team Jean Scott Bee's angel Iceman
Iceman on Beasts, especially Beasts was just

793
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,960
in the Marvel's credit seeing like,
I think those are characters will stay away

794
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,559
from actually because I think they'll feel
like, oh, they've already been done,

795
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:04,039
like let's give Beasts to send off
here. I think Gene and Scott

796
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:07,760
kind of work because I think with
psychlo if if Sinister is the villain,

797
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,880
Scott's in there guaranteed because they're just
so tied together. He's always obsessed with

798
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,039
that bloodline. And I think that's
a really good way to put Scott and

799
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:19,360
Gene is like lead one and lead
to finally, because it's a storyline about

800
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,079
maybe and even then you could flip
it where maybe Scott's like the damsel in

801
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:24,639
distress where he's the one that gets
kidnapped and it's Gene and the team going

802
00:46:24,679 --> 00:46:28,079
to get him. Right. I
also feel like I don't think they've ever

803
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:31,519
nailed those two live auctions, so
I think there's a big opportunity to finally

804
00:46:31,559 --> 00:46:35,960
make it work and do it better
than before. Of course, naturally there's

805
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,719
some risk involved, but yeah,
I feel like the opposite could happen too,

806
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,199
Or if you cast wull Veren as
whoever and they don't live up to

807
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,039
Hugh Jacksman or something, if they
do that going forward, maybe that's maybe

808
00:46:46,039 --> 00:46:50,079
that's not good either, But I
think there's so much potential there with Scott

809
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:52,840
in particular. Yes, I think
Geene's been maybe done better than Scott has,

810
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,320
but once again, I didn't do
that retro with you guys. So

811
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,480
I'm not as fresh like a minor
degree. But yeah, Scott's another So

812
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,239
I agree you because that's where like
Gene and Scott of course were all in

813
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:06,400
those but like you said, they
weren't like big factors. Really there was

814
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,480
the guy was to be a obstacles
for Wolverine and the girls. There to

815
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,920
be a love interest, right like
I think mister Sinisters. The villain brings

816
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,320
them up to be main characters and
then it's focused on them, even someone

817
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,599
like angel I could see Iceman,
I don't think so. And then the

818
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:22,159
broken Gambit of it all, I
definitely I feel like that's a smart way

819
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:29,039
to go. I'm just very curious
how they do how they do Gambit nowadays.

820
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,679
I'm not saying Gambit's like a he's
not a I just think you make

821
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,000
him like a Dufest jokes or like
Chris Pratt type. I feel like that's

822
00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,920
what you do. You you don't
do any of the other there's anything problematic

823
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,480
with him, but I don't know, really, he's a little some of

824
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,280
the things he says a little problem. But at the same time, I

825
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,079
guess it doesn't really matter. They
would just change it because like they had

826
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:50,880
that that character they introduced Harry Styles
with He's a character that had like way

827
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,199
way worse history than Gambit as far
as like using his powers for like like

828
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,679
maybe sexual assault, and they kind
of re routed in the like the future

829
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,840
but or in the present. But
I think you still you still need him

830
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,920
to be Machiesmo. I've always said
that Gambut to me should be a young

831
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,159
Brad, like a young Brad Pitt. That's what we're looking for with Gambit,

832
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,360
and you just take I think that's
perfect, Like, especially with the

833
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,440
roster we're talking about. I think
that's the kind of levity you need,

834
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:20,079
not just to like fit that Marvel
mcu quota, you know, check that

835
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,639
box of making sure it's not too
serious. You always have some quips in

836
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:28,119
there, but you don't have someone
lighthearted on the team. And I think

837
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,559
he could be a good one for
that. But yeah, in the future,

838
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:31,760
if you want to go deeper on
the emotional depths, I think you

839
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,440
can still go there too. I
was supera Mike could he probably be great,

840
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,000
And especially because Chris prep is on
Earth or star Lord is, because

841
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,760
yeah, they do get I think
like in the Newest ones I got married,

842
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,639
right, I think they get did
Canty Pride and star Lord. That'd

843
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:47,599
be great if you kind of link
them up because oh yeah, star Wars

844
00:48:47,599 --> 00:48:51,400
on Earth right now, he's chilling. Yeah, Katy Pride was not someone

845
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,760
that was done with the reboot,
right, No, she never made it,

846
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,159
I guess because she was like a
child and stuff. But like,

847
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480
it's funny our roster aid because it's
on the brain. We kind of pitched

848
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,280
like, Okay, you got Storm, Jean Gray, Rogue, and Gambit.

849
00:49:04,679 --> 00:49:06,960
If you got one more, who
would you put on that? And

850
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,159
it's not Wolverine because yeah, we're
pretty we're pretty ninety sent. But I

851
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,480
like that roster because I like the
because I also think Jean Scott, Roman,

852
00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:19,800
Gambit. They are romantically linked,
but they're very different type of romances.

853
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,800
It's not too SAME's. You know, it's like who would you put

854
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,079
on there? You got Storm,
let's say she's the leader right now,

855
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,519
who's your sixth draft pick? And
I'll say it for fun not Beast either,

856
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:30,679
because Piece is like, yeah,
I feel that's easy, right because

857
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:34,320
I got Kelsey Grammer and they might
not do them? Is there somebody?

858
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,119
Is it? Kitty Pride? Is
there somebody like that might be. I

859
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,559
think it might be Kitty Pride for
me. Actually, yeah, I am

860
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,920
down for another attempt at at Jubleek. She was like he was very sparing

861
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,360
whatever movie I can't even remember all
these X Men movie names, any clips,

862
00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:53,039
Yeah, there you go, So
i'd be I'd be down to see

863
00:49:53,039 --> 00:49:58,800
that too. Yeah, but I
think Kitty Pride would be my maybe number

864
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,039
one. And yeah, like who
else because I got I'm kind of fine

865
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:06,360
with Colossus existing in like the Deadpool
side and like, yes, go ahead

866
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,719
with that kind of version. But
if you brought if you brought Kitty Pride,

867
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,119
you could bring Class because they also
have a romantic link too, so

868
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,559
you could The whole x movie is
just nothing but couples. You know what

869
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,800
you're gonna That's what I was gonna
say. Yeah, night I think because

870
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,079
like he was only in that one
movie, right in X two. That's

871
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:24,440
it. That's the only too.
Oh sorry, they did bring him back

872
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:28,039
in the the first Class there I
forgot, But I feel like he was

873
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:30,840
very like Minor, Like I feel
like it wasn't a big deal that Nightcrawler

874
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,079
was around. They can't so I
feel like Nightcrawler like you make him cool.

875
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:37,679
He sells toys, Like, I
just feel like he's someone fun on

876
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,800
there. I think honestly, with
his religious aspects, you could even dive

877
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,039
into that a bit more so.
And if you go out rogue they didn't

878
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,840
do in the movies, they could
do here would do that in the first

879
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:52,199
movie. That would be a revealed
down that road with mystique. There you

880
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,760
go. That's a good Yeah,
So I I like that. Whether it's

881
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,800
Kitty or Nightcron Plus you could you
could do sim But I liked one of

882
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,639
those two as the as a six
member, and I think that's good.

883
00:51:00,639 --> 00:51:04,679
And I guarantee you too. They're
just gonna be a member that we have,

884
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,239
like completely left field, Like I've
always been a big war path guy.

885
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,440
I'd love to have Warpath in.
Okay, yeah he was in a

886
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,599
Days of Future Past. But yeah, he gets killed off like a bunch

887
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,320
because he's just one of the like
the protector of the realm sort of guys

888
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,679
and stuff. Yeah, it gets
messed up by those morphine creatures or whatever.

889
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:22,920
Yeah, And I feel like,
because you didn't mention it, you're

890
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,639
you aren't are but are you not
surprised about uh? Maybe Magneto taking a

891
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:32,559
seat for a bit. Yeah,
I think exactly what you said about looking

892
00:51:32,599 --> 00:51:35,920
at the Spider Man villains and the
way they chose to go that, with

893
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,159
that direction of not going with those
classics and instead bring in some other characters.

894
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:43,840
And obviously we've done that now with
uh No Way Home. We obviously

895
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,440
went back to those those places.
But I think that's a good thing to

896
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,199
do. I think start with some
fresh characters, characters we haven't seen before.

897
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,239
Uh. You know, there's a
lot more juice to be squeezed in

898
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,280
those villains. And I think x
Men, especially obviously on off the animated

899
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,480
show x Men, is just like
just like Spider Man that way, there

900
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,079
are a ton of great villains to
pull from, And so I don't think

901
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,400
you need to go for Magneto.
So I think that's a good choice.

902
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,760
Of course, I wouldn't be mad
the opposite way around, but I'm okay

903
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,760
with the decision. But you're a
big Magneto head. Doesn't bother you either,

904
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,960
though, I'm guessing no, because
it's just like, it's not like

905
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,440
the Spider Man thing where it's like, oh, I really want Goblin a

906
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:22,800
right, Like I dislike that they
always were skirted around Uncle Ben. It's

907
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,239
like Magniedo was in so many projects, you know. I know people can

908
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,000
say, oh, we got two
Uncle Ben's. I just feel like there's

909
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,039
something different there. But I feel
like with Magneto and we got two great

910
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:36,960
versions like Emaccount and Fastbender. I
feel like Xavier. I feel like Exavier

911
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:38,480
is pretty vital to the team.
But hey, even if they came and

912
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:43,320
said we want to do something different
and maybe Exavier put this team together and

913
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,760
he's the classic, like he's missing
in this universe, I think some people

914
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,800
would be really upset if Exavier wasn't
the teacher. I'd be fine. I'm

915
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,119
not saying that's what I want,
but I'd be fine right now because we've

916
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:57,360
got so many versions, especially that
first Class era. Those two are the

917
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,280
leads with each film. I know, I guess Jennifer Lawrence was in there,

918
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,199
but still I still think like Macavoy
and fast been Er, those were

919
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,880
the two guys leading that charge.
So I'm fine if they take a break.

920
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,079
Plus they brought Xavier back, I
think they'll probably be bring McKellen back,

921
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:14,280
you know, like we keep getting
like like with Deadpool and Huugh Jackmen

922
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,599
like a little sprinkles of them.
So even if it's just Magneto, like

923
00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:20,280
yeah, he's my favorite Marvelville.
But I think it's fine, and I

924
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,719
think it is tough. People made
the joke of like, oh, a

925
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,519
film with lots of great points out, it's obsessed with net all again because

926
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:29,559
it's kill Monger. And that's where
it's just like it is tough because I

927
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,239
always said that when we had Black
Panther, like oh, this is their

928
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,840
Magneto, and then they got the
rights, it's like, oh shit,

929
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,280
like they kind of they like that
is the Magneto story. Like what kill

930
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,280
Mongers is right, It's like he
feels like it's people are as oppressed and

931
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,719
he's gonna use his power to strike
back. And that's so I feel like

932
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,599
a longer break. And there's Omega
Red, there's We've said this before,

933
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:52,920
like I know Kirkle would be happy, but like Mojo Vision, like there's

934
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,159
so many cool X Men films,
Yeah, there's and even like Apocalypse,

935
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,280
I think you can get like a
real talk about like another big bad you

936
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,159
can really build that up again to
be something like Magneto. I think he's

937
00:54:04,199 --> 00:54:07,480
a card that you can pull at
any point and people are gonna be there

938
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,000
for Magneto. I think it's fine
to sit him out. We got so

939
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,320
many movies of Magneto. It's it's
okay, we're Spider Man. It's we

940
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,039
got to foe and that was it. So it's like, well, I

941
00:54:17,079 --> 00:54:22,480
want another Goblin, Like I don't
count Dane de han an amazing inspier Man

942
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:23,880
two. The same thing with Doc
Hawk. That's what we will make complaints

943
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,800
of, Like I do want to
see new villains, but if they're just

944
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,599
off the table, that kind of
sucks. So with Magneto, though,

945
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,519
we saw him several times, so
we're we're okay. Do you think what

946
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,719
is your percent chance that within the
next fifteen years, let's say there there's

947
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,599
no reboot of MCU, it's going
strong, you know, has it EBB

948
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,360
been flows but they come back?
Yeah, what do you think the chance

949
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,519
is that there's ever just like a
Savage Line movie X Men Savage Line.

950
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:52,039
We're like, it's not like some
little sequence in Multiverse of Badness where you

951
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:55,400
saw it for like two frames,
but it's like, you know, ninety

952
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,199
percent of the movie is in the
Savage Line the same movie. It's just

953
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,800
the Charles XAB your and Magnus storyline. You get sore On in there,

954
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:07,119
you get Kazar and Zabu and all
this is all Zabu and zor On.

955
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,360
Yeah, saar on On. Yeah. So if this was Marvel Llance,

956
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,800
I would say fiction because I don't
think a whole movie would take place there.

957
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,559
I think if the Disney Plus shows
were popping off, that's prime for

958
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:21,800
Disney Plus series. It's just Savage
Lands, like, oh perfect, so

959
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,559
many episodes. But I think Savage
Line will be a huge location at some

960
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:28,920
point, but I don't think it'll
be ever the X Men are stuck here,

961
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,079
you know, so like because I
think even Sinister could be like hiding

962
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:34,159
the Savage Lance like he was in
the show. Right, So when you

963
00:55:34,159 --> 00:55:36,079
say you think it's gonna be a
huge location, what do you mean matter

964
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,239
like that, where like it would
be Sinisters hanging out at Savage Land and

965
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,159
the whole third act takes plight place
on Savage Land. Yeah, yeah,

966
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,079
like a big set piece. I
kind of like Titan was and in Findy

967
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:50,280
Were where they fought that it was
like something like that where when you're going

968
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,239
you're gonna see like Savage Land on
screen and the fanboys and girls, and

969
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,239
everyone's go, oh, they're going
to the Savage Land. We know what

970
00:55:55,239 --> 00:56:00,400
that is. Man, I think
they could they could do something and where

971
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,960
I'm gonna grab Xavier as my example
character here with Xavier at the end of

972
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,599
the X Men movie. H I
know, let's say they throw some crazy

973
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:12,719
portal out Sinister to like knock him
into another realm. Somehow Xavier gets like,

974
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,639
you know, Sinister throws out one
of his weird arm things, grabs

975
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:19,360
him, pulls him in. He
does like some twisty thing. Post credit

976
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,639
scene, Xavier wakes up, Yeah, just sees the t Rex and then

977
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:28,239
like fades to fades to black.
And that's like the teaser of oh I

978
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,880
thought, I'll do you one better, which I think you'd get that.

979
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,800
And then in the distance you get
a hello, old friend. And that's

980
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,400
where Magnetil's been the whole thing too, right, A pterodactyl, Yeah,

981
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,320
jacked and gray hair. Yeah.
I think that's what you can say is

982
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:45,559
Taylor just faints in the theater.
He's played by Sam Neil. You know,

983
00:56:45,679 --> 00:56:49,440
he's just oh my god, Yeah, Taylor faint, wake up and

984
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,880
faint again. No, I think
McNeil's stuck in savage Land. That'd be

985
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,800
good explanation where he is. You
know, he's like, oh, he's

986
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,559
just been stuck his voice. Is
it who's Magneto voice? Is it new

987
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:00,079
actor or one of the classes?
It has to be a new act.

988
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:02,679
I think this would be the new
one. And who knows who they get

989
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,320
now in fifteen years. Could be
anybody could be true, can't be you

990
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,920
or me. I guess we're not
Jewish, so oh does that have to

991
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,559
be? I think so? He
well his origins where the concentration can't remember

992
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,400
his parents, But do you think
they I don't know, haven't we Yeah,

993
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,599
it's tough, right, But at
the same time, with the X

994
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:23,760
Men not having existed thus far,
we've all always speculated, like, oh,

995
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,480
maybe a snap created. Yeah,
because it's tough because I always get

996
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:31,639
the point of people being like,
but that's like a big character. I

997
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,679
feel like that's a big part of
his character than the or like other than

998
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:38,360
that flashback, I feel like I've
never yeah, I never think about that

999
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,440
as Magneto, but I guess yeah, it's it's the impetus, right,

1000
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,760
It's the litany of a start.
The last couple there are j said Rogue

1001
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,559
Star off as a villain. I
could see that, but because Tom the

1002
00:57:51,559 --> 00:57:55,920
whole stealing Captain Marble's powers, I'd
love that. I would love that,

1003
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,960
but I've always said I don't think
it'd be a villain. I think it

1004
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,639
would just be like the event,
just get a situation where they're fighting the

1005
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,280
X Men, because it's like,
oh, they don't know who's who,

1006
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,480
and then Rogue does. I think, I don't know if there's enough time.

1007
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,639
Maybe if the Marvels was bigger,
because imagine that if the Marvel's bigger,

1008
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:14,280
we got Captain Marvel three in the
villain when the villain's Rogue, that'd

1009
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,000
be so cool. But I think
with the box office the Marvel stuff is

1010
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,519
like it'll be around, but not
as much. And then super Mike says,

1011
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:23,159
Bishops will get some attention. I
agree. I think you just gotta

1012
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,280
you gotta wait on him for a
bit. They already did Days of Future

1013
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,760
Pass. I think they want to, and I think they're gonna stay clear

1014
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,840
of time travel Multiverse for a bit
as well too. After we get through

1015
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,960
the Multiverse saga, I think they're
gonna really not touch that for yeah,

1016
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,679
I think we go ground level with
XP no cosmic stuff, no time travel,

1017
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:46,199
no uh, interdimensional multiverses. Well, speaking of ground level, another

1018
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,320
room that came out this week was
some elements of spier Man four. So

1019
00:58:50,519 --> 00:58:52,960
Spierman for has some momors going around
that they're the plan is it's still gonna

1020
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,480
be, you know, grounded,
more New York City based. It's been

1021
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,079
described as a civil war with level
heroes and the rumored lineup right now,

1022
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:06,760
this is all rumor, but the
rumored lineup in this plot is obviously Daredevil,

1023
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:10,760
Jessica Jones, Echo, Kate Bishop, and the Punisher. I think

1024
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:15,039
there's maybe one more, but most
of the popular street level characters Kate Bush

1025
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,119
Up, Echo, stuff like that. That's been the rumor. So I

1026
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:23,480
don't know who are those characters on
the same team or that's I don't know,

1027
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:28,159
And that's why I don't That's why
I don't buy, like I guess

1028
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,719
with the civil because no matter what
the civil War, its definitely spiderming on

1029
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:34,599
one side and then punishing some other
people because Punisher is definitely on the same

1030
00:59:34,639 --> 00:59:37,880
side of Spider Man. Is is
that the thing where it's like, let's

1031
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,039
say Kingpin and somebody's a villain and
there's like a group of heroes like Punisher

1032
00:59:40,039 --> 00:59:45,039
there like let's just kill these people
inspier Man, the Good Team and Daredevil

1033
00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:47,960
being like let's do this like the
way of justice, you know, because

1034
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:52,480
like I I could see Jessica Jones
being on the kill side, right she

1035
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:55,480
killed kill, kill Grave and stuff. So maybe that's what it is where

1036
00:59:55,519 --> 00:59:59,559
And yeah, there's no specification of
who was there. It was just these

1037
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,599
are character is that are being talked
about right now, Echo One, Punisher

1038
01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:05,800
and Jessica Jones. Matt Alf's been
talked about a bunch. But what do

1039
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,280
you what do you think about that? As far as like we're fans of

1040
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,119
the Spider Man animated series and a
lot of those crossovers. Would you be

1041
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:15,920
down for some sort of conflict between
the street heroes of New York in a

1042
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:22,039
Spider Man movie. Ah? Would
I be down for that? Hmm?

1043
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:25,719
I just feel like I feel like
we have so much ground to cover in

1044
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,360
this next Spider Man movie in terms
of him kind of being like a blank

1045
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:36,360
slate character going into it all these
connections. I don't know, Man,

1046
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:42,360
you're saying Daredevilaer Saint, Jessica Jones, Punisher, you speak your whispering the

1047
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,519
sweet Nothing's like, I I do
want it. I don't know, I

1048
01:00:45,719 --> 01:00:49,440
gotta think about it where I have
to see maybe the pitch for the full

1049
01:00:49,519 --> 01:00:53,079
thing. The part that throws me
off about this is the kpe Bishop one

1050
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:58,599
though, because I just feel like
this seems too soon after the setup of

1051
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:04,760
like the Cat of the the Marvel's
post credit scene for her to then be

1052
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,559
here. True, she's just killing
time New York while Kamala Cohn is trying

1053
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:12,119
to round up the heroes, right, that could be it. Kamala is

1054
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,159
at a different universe trying to I'm
trying to think, is there another like

1055
01:01:15,159 --> 01:01:21,360
Marvel character like that who was in
like two kind of separate storylines just kind

1056
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:22,280
of randomly the same. Like,
I don't know, I don't really see

1057
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:29,519
the connection between Scar Scar who surprised
Scar? I mentioned without Taylor having to

1058
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:30,679
be on the episode. Yeah,
oh now I just bring them all the

1059
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:35,320
time, like technically Miss Marvels because
she had to shown them the movie like

1060
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,599
she was bouncing your tween Like I
guess not, but like I mean,

1061
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:42,119
she lives in New York. I
think still who knows where she lives at

1062
01:01:42,159 --> 01:01:45,239
this point? Yeah, give me
please give me a scene of am On

1063
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:50,679
Villani and John Berthall. I want
to see that conversation between the Punisher and

1064
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:54,559
Miss Marvels. What do they talk
about? Like what like Burthell would get

1065
01:01:54,599 --> 01:02:00,440
lots of good comedy gold like he's
pants, he's so good that I I

1066
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,519
trust it, yea, But yeah, I don't know. There's there's something

1067
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:07,960
about this that seems like it's not
gonna be the case for me. I

1068
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,599
don't I guess if I had to
pin, Like the Kate Bishop and the

1069
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:14,599
Jessica Jones part are the things that
send out the most to me as not

1070
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:19,920
really lining up for whatever reason,
because obviously you got the connection between like,

1071
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,239
but I don't like, I don't
see how you leap frog that and

1072
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,639
a spider Man though, that seems
like too much for me, Like I

1073
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,920
feel like if you want a character
like that, like, she all cannot

1074
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:34,920
like a super strong she's not personality
wise like Jessica. But I feel like

1075
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,519
that makes more sense in Nancy U
verse when you get dared Vil because of

1076
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:40,239
the Seld connection there, and that's
like, where what else is she all

1077
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,960
going to do? Well? She's
not New York though, right, She's

1078
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,639
in Los Angeles. I know,
what's my leap. I'm sure she can

1079
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:51,800
jump that. That's true pretty quick. Maybe if it's like a serious issue

1080
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,559
like that, they don't want she's
gonna be a bit kind of quippi to

1081
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,639
be around, like I know,
Spider Man, I guess. But like

1082
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,519
all these other characters we listed other
than Kate Bishop are serious like Echo Punisher,

1083
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,960
Jessica Jones, Matt can be a
little quippi, but he's more serious

1084
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,840
side, So I think that's maybe
it is just the tone, same thing

1085
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,000
as like why Kamala wouldn't be around, And I don't know it. I'm

1086
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,920
I really want like it's a you
know, it's a like what is it

1087
01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:21,920
the first world problem? But I
do really want some like soume confirmation like

1088
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,679
what is happening with this movie?
Because we just keep hearing like obviously at

1089
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:27,719
least we keep hearing Daredevil come up, So I'm happy about that. And

1090
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,280
it's kind of like the Wolverine thing
where honestly, if I got Daredevil in

1091
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,719
it, that's really all I would
need. I wouldn't need like I don't

1092
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,320
get me wrong, I wouldn't turn
these down, but I would just I

1093
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,920
just really want Daredevil and Spider Man, and I want those two to be

1094
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,760
together for a movie and go from
there and Kingpinn with some other big villain.

1095
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:46,199
Great, that's all I need.
But I do get And this is

1096
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:49,599
what I was talking about today,
because that's been the big h you know,

1097
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:52,960
because you're on social media. The
big like complaint against this has just

1098
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,199
been like, oh, why can't
they just make a Spider Man movie?

1099
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:58,760
You know, it's just like as
usual. It's like a business agreement,

1100
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,239
and Sony signed on this agreement wanting
MSU characters. You know. It's just

1101
01:04:02,239 --> 01:04:05,400
like so I never get why people
have not really understood that. And I

1102
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,360
get that you want to sol a
Peter movie, but it's like you have

1103
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,119
five of those already. That's not
Tom Holme regardless. Sure, but and

1104
01:04:13,159 --> 01:04:16,199
even to me in Home Coming Afar
from Home, Fury and Stark are in

1105
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,760
them, but they're in them for
such a small amount, like no way

1106
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,039
Home I could give you. But
that to me is just never a complaint,

1107
01:04:23,079 --> 01:04:25,719
Like and I would get why Sony
kiss. I don't think any of

1108
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:30,119
those characters we listed, Daredevil,
Jessica Jones, Punisher, they're as big

1109
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:33,320
as Iron Man by themselves, but
altogether as a package, I think that's

1110
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,280
really cool and really tempting for them
to be like, hey, we don't

1111
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:42,760
have a big, a tier character, but five characters here really interesting.

1112
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,880
I just don't the probably don't buys
the Civil War park because I just don't

1113
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,079
think it's not like the movie Civil
War. We had all these phases that

1114
01:04:48,199 --> 01:04:51,599
made sense throwing all these characters in
here, like oh, there's a conflict

1115
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:56,039
that just doesn't That just doesn't make
sense to me, Like you need a

1116
01:04:56,039 --> 01:04:59,480
lot of build up to get there. In my opinion, I also feel

1117
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,199
like that what we maybe want and
maybe what would be best for the character

1118
01:05:04,719 --> 01:05:11,039
would be a small scale Peter movie
where he's you know, finding himself again

1119
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:14,400
and there's like one villain, And
that's probably like the safest bet in terms

1120
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,159
of like this will be a good
movie, but like, what are you

1121
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:19,760
gonna do. You're gonna have two
movies that will save equivalent like threat level

1122
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,280
and whatnot, and then you're gonna
go to this thing where there's multi versus.

1123
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,599
They bring about Toby and Garfield and
they had all these like your favorite

1124
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,440
Spider Man villains, and then what
the next movie after that is just gonna

1125
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,079
be like, oh yeah, we
took like seven steps back and it's just

1126
01:05:32,159 --> 01:05:34,760
like a boring, old simple movie. Of course, me and you,

1127
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,760
Travis and the people in our school
we want that, but I don't think

1128
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:43,199
Marvel's not gonna look at it that
way. Even something like Captain America.

1129
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:45,679
Look at that, like how they
ratchet that up the intensity of that to

1130
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,280
like building up to civil War,
and that looks like they're gonna make Captain

1131
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,280
America four even though it's you know, slight difference, it's a new cap

1132
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,840
character, but still like they're gonna
bring a bunch of other characters. Thor

1133
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:59,519
had a slimmer thing where smaller scale
is the first two. Then you go

1134
01:05:59,559 --> 01:06:01,519
to Rag and Rock and you start
introducing all these other side characters, and

1135
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:05,400
then like Thor Love and Thunder throws
Guardians in there. You know, like

1136
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,519
that wasn't very meaningful, but it
was still like, Okay, we got

1137
01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:11,199
to ratchet up the intensity. How
many characters are in here? And I

1138
01:06:11,199 --> 01:06:15,159
just feel like you can't really.
I think I think you could go backwards,

1139
01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:18,039
but I think from the Marvel perspective, I think from a marketing perspective,

1140
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:21,119
from the Sony's you know, they're
getting their grubby little fingers in there.

1141
01:06:21,239 --> 01:06:24,119
I don't think they look at it
and think, oh yeah, let's

1142
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:27,360
go back to just some simple movie. And so even then, like I

1143
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,320
think, compared to the big characters
in No Way Home, I don't think

1144
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,280
these characters even set a chance in
terms of like big popular hype levels.

1145
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,119
I mean, you got the Netflix
fans in there, I guess, but

1146
01:06:36,119 --> 01:06:40,159
even that's been so many years since
those shows were happening. So it definitely

1147
01:06:40,199 --> 01:06:43,039
doesn't feel like as big as No
Way Home. But it feels like an

1148
01:06:43,079 --> 01:06:46,880
attempt towards that at least. Well
that's always been my issue, like not

1149
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,840
that like same thing you said,
Not that I have an issue with it,

1150
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,360
but when people said, oh,
you know, it just be Daredevil.

1151
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:57,880
I want that. But does Sony
view Charlie Cox's Daredevil as big as

1152
01:06:58,119 --> 01:07:01,000
you know, Robert Downey, Sam
Jackson and Bendic Compbatch. Absolutely not,

1153
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:04,000
even to me, Daredevil and Kington
as a package. Not. So that's

1154
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,119
why I think, at least if
it's like six or seven characters, maybe

1155
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:12,280
they look at that the same thing
as like, okay, it's a ground

1156
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,639
level thing. But if it is, if I could see Figgy and Team.

1157
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:17,760
If they keep pitching it to Sony
like this is the next Civil War,

1158
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:20,679
maybe that's how they could sell.
And hell, who knows. Maybe

1159
01:07:21,079 --> 01:07:25,320
whatever we do, maybe that's where
we do get a Tom Hardy in there,

1160
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880
right, Like that could be another
thing where oh we'll throw in one

1161
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,079
of these Sony things. So it's
like you got burnth and cause like burnh

1162
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:33,960
All's a good star and like Hayley
Steinfield's a big enough star, and I

1163
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,840
think the other ones have like certain
levels. But I agree with you.

1164
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,599
That's always my fears. I want
them to go back to basics, and

1165
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:43,679
I think that's what they need.
But do they few they can do after

1166
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,719
No Way Home? I don't know. I hope they do. I'd love

1167
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,320
that because I think like, as
long as it's quality, that'll that'll come.

1168
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,599
Maybe it won't be your billion dollar
earner, but I still think he's

1169
01:07:53,639 --> 01:07:56,320
gonna be in all these Avengers movies. That's where you can get your Spider

1170
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,320
action. But of course it's a
Sony movie, right, So they also

1171
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,480
don't want to be like save the
billion dollar movie for like Marvel Studio stuff.

1172
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,599
We also want to be the billion
dollar movie. And yeah, and

1173
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:09,559
you know, like there's a good
chance that Zendia is not on in this

1174
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:12,320
next movie. Either she's a no, she's a big deal these days too,

1175
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,159
right, she'll be in also you
think you think she'll have a big

1176
01:08:15,239 --> 01:08:17,119
role in it. They'll they'll fork
over tons of money to make sure.

1177
01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:20,760
I think so. I think that's
why the story wise, like Reconnect,

1178
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,319
I thought that like doesn't then take
away from all you think they just don't

1179
01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,399
care about the story implications. They
just got to do it because she's India.

1180
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,960
I think you get halfway through it, like the first half of the

1181
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,920
movie is like, oh, like
you seem familiar, and then like by

1182
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,279
the end of the movie there together
they're kissing. I think it's I think

1183
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:40,039
it reminds we were just some X
Men. It reminds me a lot of

1184
01:08:40,079 --> 01:08:45,279
Jennifer Lawrence's Mystique, where Mystique those
movies were like why is Mystique such a

1185
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:47,439
big main character? Why she on
the X Men team? But it was

1186
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,319
like Jennifer Lawrence like blew up in
between those movies. And I think Zendia

1187
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:56,840
is the same thing where they will
find a reason some film will kidnap her

1188
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,640
or something like. I think Zendia
will one hundred per sent b in Spider

1189
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:04,479
Man four, and like a supporting
character, I think they will have her

1190
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:10,279
in there. I guess. I'm
I'm thinking about the the closest equivalent in

1191
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:15,039
the MCU is like star Lord and
Gomora and obviously more is in Guardians three,

1192
01:09:15,159 --> 01:09:18,079
just as much as she isn't any
other one. But they didn't do

1193
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:21,880
the thing that a lot of us
thought they would have, Like they just

1194
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,840
make her and star Lord get together
again and there's some big, happy family,

1195
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,479
and I mean, who even knows
what the future of Guardians is,

1196
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,840
of course with the James Gunn situation
of it, But I don't know,

1197
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,600
Like they didn't do it there.
They didn't just get them back together.

1198
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:41,000
She's not Sandea though, you know, biggest, biggest sh dude. Zoeys

1199
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:46,520
Aldana though, that's like the original
Zendia, Zendias and Saldana. That's she's

1200
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:50,960
a billion dollar movie maker right there. She has more billion dollar movies than

1201
01:09:51,319 --> 01:09:55,479
Zendeia than anyone else. Majority of
people in the world did not know she

1202
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:00,279
Yes, she's always wearing green skin
or like blue cgi but still she's huge.

1203
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,600
Yeah, I guess I just don't
think she's in demand like Zendia.

1204
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:08,479
You know, she's not leading franchises
like hers. I think I think this

1205
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,880
is where though. And I also
just don't think they're gonna do Gwen.

1206
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:14,319
I don't think they're gonna do black
Cat. I don't think they're gonna do

1207
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,239
like what's another love interest out there. It's like even just Felicia Hardy.

1208
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,319
I think they're gonna just stick with
MJ. And it's not something I want.

1209
01:10:21,359 --> 01:10:25,000
But I think with Zendia, and
plus they're dating in real life too,

1210
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:27,880
so I think that's the way.
Like Tom keeps doing this thing,

1211
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,840
I think that helps. I don't
know if it helps. I think it

1212
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,359
helps because I think Tom keeps doing
the singer's like I don't know, like

1213
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:34,680
I want to come back, but
I'm not too sure how much you'll do

1214
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,159
it. I think if they get
them both on, it's like, uh,

1215
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:41,680
oh, well we're doing it together, right, so like where we

1216
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,680
fell in love and stuff. So
I think I think you pull the Zendaya.

1217
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,720
And you know, I feel like
Zenda at some point in her career

1218
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,479
is just gonna stop doing these big
blockbuster things and just go win like five

1219
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Oscars in a row or something.
I think she'll go do that, but

1220
01:10:55,039 --> 01:10:57,439
I don't know if she's doing that
yet, because I think, you know,

1221
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,880
doing's happening like I think right now
is like her Blockbuster, She's gonna

1222
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,760
do it all, and then Euphoria
is like her acting and Era. Yeah,

1223
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,279
yeah, exactly. Yeah, Well, we'll see. I hope we

1224
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:13,520
get some details on this soon because
we're gonna get all those Sony movies next

1225
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,520
year, so I hope after that
we start to learn something because it's been

1226
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,720
pretty quiet. We don't even have
a we don't even know if we have

1227
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,840
a director of respirement for because I
don't know if John Watson is coming back

1228
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,800
because that was the other room that
they were meeting with, Like they want

1229
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,079
Wats to come back, but there's
other people. So remind me, did

1230
01:11:28,079 --> 01:11:30,119
he do one, two and three? One, two and three? Yeah?

1231
01:11:30,199 --> 01:11:32,960
Yeah, all three? So all
right, we'll take our next ad

1232
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,760
break and then we'll be right back
with some more with some video game news.

1233
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:42,279
We'll be right back and we're back. So we're gonna do the two

1234
01:11:42,319 --> 01:11:45,079
quick hit movie things just because we
are gonna table the Wolverine League last,

1235
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,319
just in case no one wants to
know any sort of details. Luckily,

1236
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:50,720
I don't think they's do any like
massive story spoilers out there. But if

1237
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:54,359
you don't even want to know,
like certain characters and stuff, then you

1238
01:11:54,359 --> 01:11:58,000
can skip ahead. But if not
to there will be a cutout on the

1239
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,439
main feed and on the side quest
feeds, so look out for that.

1240
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,920
So these things we've got to talk
about because this happened like like the day

1241
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,399
after two days after the Game Awards. But A twenty four is making a

1242
01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:09,560
death stranding movie, so it's not
the most time, I think, but

1243
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,600
I want to talk about because like, also don't have Kirkle I don't think

1244
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,600
you ever beat it, but you
mean big death stranding fans and yeah,

1245
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:20,399
like I said, not beater of
games, but no, yeah, buyer

1246
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:25,720
of least. But yeah, what
do you think about this Sadegajima team on

1247
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,319
A twenty four making a det stranding
movie. There's nothing about a director,

1248
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:31,039
there's nothing about like if it's gonna
be based on the game, just that

1249
01:12:31,039 --> 01:12:34,399
that's happening. So when were you
surprised that's a movie in two? What

1250
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,800
do you think about A twenty fours? Dude that we love, we love

1251
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,000
seeing what they put out. What
do you think about them taking the reins

1252
01:12:41,039 --> 01:12:45,079
on this one. Yeah, I
mean, I guess I not really that

1253
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:49,640
surprised. I mean, like,
death Stranding has so many freaking cut scenes

1254
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:54,439
in it. It's such a story
focused game, and kajimas talked about his

1255
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,720
love for movies and all these things, so it doesn't shock me in this

1256
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,680
era where video game adaptations are happen
left right and center into the TV and

1257
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:08,279
movie realm of things A twenty four
that's awesome. I think that's a great

1258
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:13,239
pairing. It's very fitting for what
deask Stranding is in terms of the weirdness

1259
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:16,560
of it, and so that makes
me excited. But in terms of the

1260
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,239
I don't know. I'm excited.
I can't wait to see what it is,

1261
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,880
but I just feel like there's no
way that they can live up to

1262
01:13:28,319 --> 01:13:31,000
what the story and world of that
game is. In a movie, you

1263
01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:34,359
need like three seasons of a TV
like that game is long. That is

1264
01:13:34,359 --> 01:13:36,039
a long game. I just feel
you're gonna have to cut a lot of

1265
01:13:36,079 --> 01:13:40,720
stuff make it a simplified version.
It can definitely work. You can make

1266
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:45,439
make it more of a personal journey
and tone it down and whatnot. I

1267
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,279
don't know. I guess I just
love the game so much, and I

1268
01:13:48,319 --> 01:13:50,600
know that it was like sixty hours
long. I just I don't know how

1269
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,520
you do that. Well, I
guess is there a chance they do that?

1270
01:13:56,039 --> 01:13:59,239
Good old. It's in the world
of dest Stranding, and it is

1271
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:01,960
based on that world, but it's
not about it's not Sam Porter Bridges,

1272
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,039
and it's not Mad's Michelson. Yeah. Do you think that's a possibility in

1273
01:14:06,079 --> 01:14:09,960
this scenario, right, because I
was thinking, Man, you just get

1274
01:14:10,119 --> 01:14:15,000
Norman ritis play the character again.
Mad's Marc oh Man marcot quality. Please

1275
01:14:15,039 --> 01:14:17,720
get her in that project. She's
so good. Con O'Brien, make sure

1276
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,520
he's in there. I get going
to get Jeff Keey is in that game,

1277
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,479
right, so oh he can't wait. He's like my big break coming.

1278
01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:27,720
You know that there'll be a fifteen
minute spot of the next game or

1279
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,520
where he can Yeah, I get
Garamo even though it was like a different

1280
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,720
voice, right, yeah, get
that same voice action to do his voice

1281
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,760
again, you know. Yep.
Troy Baker, he's another one that's just

1282
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,359
like, oh my god, I
get to be in it. I would

1283
01:14:40,399 --> 01:14:43,399
be down to see that too.
Yeah, So that's a good point.

1284
01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:47,359
I guess I was under the impression
that it would be a retelling of the

1285
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:50,399
story, But I feel like the
story that was told would be hard to

1286
01:14:50,399 --> 01:14:56,039
do because I feel like the interactive
nature of it and the spacing the loneliness

1287
01:14:56,079 --> 01:14:58,840
of it is so important, and
I just feel like maybe some of that

1288
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,079
stuff is hard to like. Even
in that game, the pacing is crazy,

1289
01:15:02,079 --> 01:15:05,159
that you walk from the east coast
to the west coast or whatever it

1290
01:15:05,239 --> 01:15:09,159
is like to do that in a
movie, I think would come across as

1291
01:15:09,239 --> 01:15:13,399
like really wonky. So I don't
know. I think that maybe is the

1292
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,119
route to go go do something else
within that world, and that that would

1293
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:19,479
just open cracks, it open a
whole lot. But then I think I

1294
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:24,039
actually get a lot less interested potential, Like I'm interested that I'll still see

1295
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:26,439
this day when I watch every trailer
and talk about your own geek First,

1296
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,279
of course, but I love the
characters in that game, almost every single

1297
01:15:30,279 --> 01:15:33,359
one of them. I really really
enjoyed both the performance and the story stuff

1298
01:15:33,399 --> 01:15:39,239
going on and the interactions between them
and all that. So I guess I

1299
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:41,520
feel very conflict of this one,
as you can tell, Travis, I

1300
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,800
don't know, ye, I mean, I'm interested, but I can't say

1301
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,880
it was maybe my top pick for
a video game adaptation to a movie.

1302
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,800
And let's say they do just the
full on we're gonna do the story.

1303
01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:56,560
Do you expect them to get the
original actors or do you expect them to

1304
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,359
get new people? Oh? Man, I feel like it'd probably be hard

1305
01:16:00,359 --> 01:16:03,119
to get every single one of them
back, just because of how scheduling works

1306
01:16:03,159 --> 01:16:09,399
in the in the world. I
guess it depends how much of the crew

1307
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,920
they they decide to get. Because
I'm Norman, Retis would absolutely make it

1308
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,319
happen, and he would be like, you gotta get him. You can't.

1309
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,720
You can't skip out on that,
I think. I think, Yeah,

1310
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,640
I think Mad's is the must,
and I think it could happen as

1311
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:26,760
well easily. I think is also
a lock to who else. I think

1312
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,439
LEAs too would be a lot because
Kajima and her are always like like they've

1313
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,039
been spawed together, not like a
People magazine, not like that. But

1314
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:36,439
there's many times of them like hanging
out, like hanging out like I think

1315
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:41,359
their friends passed that or they became
friends from that experience. I think he

1316
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:44,199
was a big fan of her work. They work together and they think context.

1317
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:46,159
I feel like there, I feel
like that trio is like that's your

1318
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:49,159
main cast, yes, and that
gets the job done. And then you

1319
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:53,279
know you can you could bring like
what was it the guy up in the

1320
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:56,640
mountains like hart Heart, Well there's
die Hardman and there was Hartman. Yeah,

1321
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,600
I think Hartman. Yet that's the
kind of character you where you cut

1322
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,840
die Hardman. I mean, I
guess you need some like president or not

1323
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,479
president, but like government e people, and he was one of those main

1324
01:17:06,079 --> 01:17:10,880
main guy. I really want Mama
in there though. I just want quality,

1325
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:14,960
you see, And I think that's
one I think you can do the

1326
01:17:15,039 --> 01:17:17,720
game. You just cut a lot
of that stuff. I think you gotta

1327
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:21,600
fcause the biggest thing about that is
you got to have the deaf stranding vibe.

1328
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,399
You've got to have that lost it
to me, this like almost I

1329
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:29,119
don't think they would, but I
feel like it requires to be a three

1330
01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:31,199
hour movie. You have to make
it feel like you've been through in the

1331
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:34,680
track like and for me, the
best person that I want directed I don't

1332
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,960
know, because my theory is always
like Kajem's gonna direct it, because we

1333
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,760
always say when Jem is gonna direct
a movie. I could see this being

1334
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,119
his first one and taking a chance, and especially because then if it hits,

1335
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,039
it's his own project. He knows
it, and that could be big

1336
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:49,479
for him. But the what I
thought is like what I want for the

1337
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:53,920
vibe and again you know, geek
for Zaida and love it. It pained

1338
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,920
me, but I want David Lowry
to direct it. He's got that green

1339
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,520
Knight, that slow pace of god
like walking through hot like hiking the mountains,

1340
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,760
trying to get to his end point, seeing a big giant like.

1341
01:18:06,119 --> 01:18:11,920
I think that just kind of lull
in that slow, monotonous pace in a

1342
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:15,760
good way is what this needs,
because you need to get that sense of

1343
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,159
dread when you're hiking. So that's
why I think that they cut Mama.

1344
01:18:18,239 --> 01:18:21,800
They'd cut heartman. I think they
keep the government stuff, they'd keep the

1345
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:26,600
mom's storyline, and they'd keep Mickelson, and I think that they'd streamline just

1346
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,079
those really main and what's her name, Amelia, right, I feel like

1347
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:32,000
you need to have she was like, she doesn't need to be in the

1348
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,039
movie very much, but I think
you gotta have her in there. Why

1349
01:18:34,039 --> 01:18:35,840
am I f forging about me?
It was like the red dress, like

1350
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:40,279
the long blonde hair. She's not
really like you see at the very beginning

1351
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:44,000
and then the end. I think
she tied to like some of the twist

1352
01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:55,920
stuff, right, um to find
twist stuff like that who plays her Amelia?

1353
01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:01,680
She was an older actress and then
they omily Yeah, because yeah,

1354
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:08,039
because there's a I just thought that
was a big like driving for Sam as

1355
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:12,399
the character, right yeah, because
I'm trying to say something because there's something

1356
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:14,479
about that character. I can't remember
if it's a twist or not, but

1357
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,159
I agree with you that character's crucial. That's what i'd say. I agree

1358
01:19:16,199 --> 01:19:19,520
with you that you need you need
that character, and that's one that I

1359
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,000
don't think hurts of Like, oh, man, how do you also fit

1360
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:25,560
that character in it? Like I
think that could be a character with oh,

1361
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,239
just a small amount of screen time
that we can still get that.

1362
01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:30,960
Yeah, because there is that one
like it's myers supposed but someone to do

1363
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,920
with her character at the end where
it's a very long prologue that's or no

1364
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:40,560
sorry monologue, that's stuff you could
probably trim down a little. So I

1365
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:45,039
think you're thinking because man, like
once again, long game, hard to

1366
01:19:45,039 --> 01:19:46,760
remember, like where certain story beats
happened and whatnot. Obviously, the game

1367
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,880
can be shorter or longer depend on
how much you build highways and shit.

1368
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,439
But I'm trying to think, like, is there a good point in that

1369
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,039
game story that you can remember that
would be like a good like the way

1370
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:00,439
Dune was like part one at the
very end, I was like, Okay,

1371
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,880
this was a self contained movie,
but you're you're leaving it open,

1372
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,720
so you could do more. Like
I'm trying to think if there's a sp

1373
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:10,079
a spot in that story where we
could take it and like here, yeah,

1374
01:20:10,079 --> 01:20:12,079
if they only get one shot at
it, they make it work.

1375
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:14,920
And I feel like A twenty four
is that kind of that kind of studio

1376
01:20:15,039 --> 01:20:17,079
you know? Yeah, but then
if you if it's super successful or people

1377
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:20,359
want more you, you could go
further down that route. I think if

1378
01:20:20,359 --> 01:20:24,640
the intention was for for sure and
for part one and part two, I

1379
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,319
think the part one could end when
you have that big boss bout with Troy

1380
01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:30,560
Baker's character, because it's a big
rul the es so that first one and

1381
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:36,239
then yeah, he's like in it, but like just in hints and exactly.

1382
01:20:36,359 --> 01:20:39,560
Yeah. So that's why I feel
like you could do that. But

1383
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,319
I think if they're saying, oh, we've only got one shot. Troy

1384
01:20:42,359 --> 01:20:45,720
Baker's character Infortu, she gets all
pretty much cut out, and that just

1385
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,880
becomes like kind of a goon like
character. So I'd say that I think

1386
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:55,600
even if they just make it about
like even you know, I love I

1387
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:58,399
Love your Green Night comparison, I
think that would be a great actor choice.

1388
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:00,880
But even just the way that character
descends into madness in Green Night,

1389
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,039
I feel like that you could very
much do that with Sam and it's just

1390
01:21:03,159 --> 01:21:08,359
him against the Goo monsters and we're
not generally like, oh yeah, bring

1391
01:21:08,399 --> 01:21:11,680
on more CGI villains, but I
think you could the creepiness. I'm already

1392
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,640
picturing the music and just him getting
sucked into these places, you know,

1393
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,119
under the world of the Tar,
whatever happened. They're like, it could

1394
01:21:17,199 --> 01:21:21,079
very much just be like Norman Ritus, just one man play sort of vibe,

1395
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:24,640
and I think that could work for
the most part. Yeah, I

1396
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,520
was so mad. On their website, they put out an a twenty four

1397
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,640
shirt with like the things that hang
down you're not supposed touch in the game

1398
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,000
when they're like in be invisible.
So it was the logo with those hanging

1399
01:21:34,079 --> 01:21:40,239
downs that you like snip like the
yeah umbilical cords or whatever, the sign

1400
01:21:40,319 --> 01:21:42,960
up for notifications because it went live
at six, like we'll let you know

1401
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,800
when it's you know, a lot
like being sold and the next time on

1402
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,399
a website, just like all the
Soldiers, all the shirts were sold out.

1403
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:50,359
I was so mad. I wanted
the shirt so bad. That happened

1404
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,359
last time with the four shirt.
Yeah, and have you ever seen the

1405
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,960
A twenty four everything everywhere all at
one shirt. That's another one I wanted

1406
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,359
and it's sold out right away.
They make so few of these shirts,

1407
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,800
and like I would buy all these, I just get annoy with them.

1408
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:10,079
It's all like the googly eyes and
stuff. So but the one thing what

1409
01:22:10,159 --> 01:22:13,760
I do like about this, so
I don't know, I'm for both.

1410
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,399
I'm for if they come out and
say we're doing a complete you know,

1411
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,159
adaption in the game, great.
If they do a story within the world,

1412
01:22:18,319 --> 01:22:21,800
that's great. I'm all down for
desk stranting. I love that world

1413
01:22:23,319 --> 01:22:25,520
director. Like I said, I
could see either way of like an experience

1414
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,680
or Kadjena is the first one.
I think. Just my biggest positive from

1415
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:30,439
this is not even that Death Stranding
is being made into a movie. I'm

1416
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,159
just happy that it was a couple
of weeks ago or maybe months ago.

1417
01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:35,640
Rememberhen we talked about there's a report
that A twenty four is gonna get into

1418
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,600
bigger budget films, and we're like, Okay, we get that you have

1419
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,680
to do that as a studio.
You have to grow and make that profit,

1420
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,720
but we just don't want them to
lose who they are. And to

1421
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,159
me, death Stranding, that's like
a perfect combo of that could be a

1422
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:51,439
big budget sci fi action a venture
movie, but that's not losing a twenty

1423
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:56,079
fours. Like I feel like that
fits right in their wheelhouse of oh weirder

1424
01:22:56,119 --> 01:22:59,000
type of blockbuster. Same thing we're
gonna tell them on the twenty twenty four

1425
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:01,760
preview, But like, that's war
movie where it's about America divides in half

1426
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,760
and they're having a civil war with
each other, and that's where it's like,

1427
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,840
oh, that's a twenty four where
it's gonna be an action movie about

1428
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:11,279
American versus American, but there's this
very political spin. So that's why it

1429
01:23:11,279 --> 01:23:15,279
was Civil War and now Death Stranding. I'm liking the okay, Like Civil

1430
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:18,319
War is A twenty fourth's most expensive
movie ever it's seventy five million, which

1431
01:23:18,319 --> 01:23:21,800
is funny, that's their biggest most
expensive movie. But so to me,

1432
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:26,680
it's like, if these are the
first few signs of the big blockbusters we're

1433
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,359
getting, I'm very happy. I'm
happy. It's not like a God of

1434
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,359
War or a you know, obviously
Uncharted was done. It's something like that.

1435
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,640
I think this fits their wheelhouse and
this just gives me hope for what

1436
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,640
they're going to do in the future. So yeah, and speaking film,

1437
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,359
it in uh New Zealand. Yes, not very dark and rainy. Yeah,

1438
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:47,079
not the volume you need. They
you gotta be outside for this.

1439
01:23:47,159 --> 01:23:53,560
You've got to have natural sets and
grass and everything like that. So the

1440
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,000
next thing, so I'm a video
game related is this is smaller news,

1441
01:23:56,039 --> 01:23:59,000
but I'm bringing back up because the
screw were reported and it's the first time

1442
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:00,520
it's come up. And plus I
I don't think I've gotten your opinion on

1443
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,840
this because I covered on a trust
told you. But uh, the same

1444
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:10,039
Scooper that put out the mcux men
news put out that Illuminati has not Illuminati

1445
01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:15,600
Illumination has either pitched or they're going
to be pitching Nintendo that they want to

1446
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:20,439
do their Avengers and they want to
do a lead up and have that obviously

1447
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,760
be Super Smash Pros. But what
I was bringing up, and this is

1448
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,920
what I want to ask you,
because we haven't talked about this on the

1449
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:30,600
news together with the other guys,
is they now there was a rumor that

1450
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:34,800
Illumination pitched them doing Zelda and they
said no, and then they went to

1451
01:24:35,199 --> 01:24:39,800
Sony and they did the live action
Zelda. And that's what I want to

1452
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,680
ask you, like with this,
if there's some supposed pitch, do you

1453
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,680
think like a Zelda can work both
where it's a live action animation. Do

1454
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,840
you think Zelda in animation would be
like a Hulk where you just have link

1455
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:56,199
in the crew as characters but there's
not a movie, or do you see

1456
01:24:56,239 --> 01:25:00,079
a Smash Pros movie where it's like
the MC without the X Men for a

1457
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:01,760
bit where Okay, I don't think
they gave the rights away, but what

1458
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,000
if there's a because that was the
whole thing that they Illumination wanted to make

1459
01:25:05,039 --> 01:25:09,880
it and Sony I'll bid them or
I'll pitch them, whatever the deal is.

1460
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,920
Do you think that would be the
route where we could maybe have Super

1461
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,000
Smash Ros but they just I don't
include any Zelda link stuff, you know,

1462
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:18,600
like that's me the real because those
were the rumblings. But then when

1463
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,840
that happened to me, I thought
this project was dead because I thought,

1464
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:26,239
well, that's odd that they had
this billion dollar hit Mario and then they

1465
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,000
or you know, with Mario Illumination, they decide to go with Sony,

1466
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,039
who was very iffy. So that's
why I thought, Okay, Super Smash

1467
01:25:31,079 --> 01:25:35,199
Us is probably dead because they're already
splitting up the studios and stuff. So

1468
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:41,239
like, what do you see the
like with the Zelda of it all,

1469
01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:44,119
because that's not a rumor, that's
a confirmed thing. Live action Sony movie

1470
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:45,840
is happening. Yeah. Do you
think that's just like an easy piece that

1471
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:47,920
you move out? Do you think
it's something that maybe this is just a

1472
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,800
pipe dream and Nintendo won't want to
do this as an actual movie, Like

1473
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:55,079
sure, Illunation wants to do it, but Nintendo has really no interest in

1474
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:59,479
doing a Smash Bro Sepa movie.
Yeah, how would that work on terms

1475
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:03,119
of film rights and whatnot? Like
could there not be an animated Zelda?

1476
01:26:03,399 --> 01:26:06,039
Yeah, as long as the Tendo
didn't sign Yeah, I don't think they

1477
01:26:06,039 --> 01:26:10,319
did. But as long as Nintendo
didn't sign like an exclusive deal. I

1478
01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:13,720
don't think they did. I think
it was just the idea that Illumination was

1479
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,359
kind of caught off guard that,
oh, why is this happened? So

1480
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:19,800
it could still happen an animated movie
and could that work? Though? Can

1481
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,159
you have two at the same time? I think for Zelda you can.

1482
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,319
Yeah. I think other Nintendo properties
might not fare the same, but I

1483
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:32,159
think Zelda and Mario are just so
huge that I think I think you can

1484
01:26:32,199 --> 01:26:35,600
get away with it. Mario did
have a live action movie, remember,

1485
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:40,640
but I think that is one that
could happen, and I think they could

1486
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:45,760
be very different tonally. Now obviously
we know the Zelda movies happening, but

1487
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,119
we don't really know very much about
it. I guess we have a director,

1488
01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:50,680
do we do we have a writer
as Yeah, it's not good.

1489
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:56,319
Yeah, I can't remember, but
it's it's one of those of like I'm

1490
01:26:56,359 --> 01:26:59,279
not expecting good thing. I think, like one of the biggest credits tck

1491
01:26:59,319 --> 01:27:01,439
to pick pikach but I'll let me
get it. But it was there's more

1492
01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:06,880
questionable projects there, yeah, because
I remember the director is like the Mays

1493
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,000
runner, uh Mayze runner guy right, yeah, and the new Apes guy,

1494
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:13,479
that guy. And you know what, my my prediction, I'm putting

1495
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:17,239
this out there nice and early.
Let me get his name here. My

1496
01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:24,560
prediction for link Castle is gonna be
is gonna be Thomas Brody Sangster, who

1497
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:28,600
is in Maye Runner, okay,
like in those trilogy movies, and he

1498
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,479
was in another one of that director's
movies. I think. So there's a

1499
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,000
big connection there. And I don't
know if you remember this guy. Look

1500
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:38,760
him up, Thomas Brody Sangster.
This, this guy's got link written all

1501
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,159
over him. This is a link
if I've ever seen one. He plays

1502
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:45,399
like the night the nice person in
in Maybe Yeah Love Actually kid, Yeah,

1503
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,960
I could see him. That's just
how old is the guy nice?

1504
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:54,359
Thirty three though, okay, he
looks like he looks fifteen. Yeah,

1505
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,479
no, I could see that.
I could see that. The other fancast

1506
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:01,000
right now is the Percy Jackson kid. That's the other one. And then

1507
01:28:01,039 --> 01:28:05,239
the other one thirty thirty years or
older. The other one I want is

1508
01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:09,560
the mean pick is the is Hunter
Schaeffer, and the mean pick is her.

1509
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,760
But it's her, no me either, but it's her playing link Ann

1510
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,439
Zelda I'm like, oh, that'd
be fantastic. You know, it doesn't

1511
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:19,640
make sense. What do you mean
like Linkenzel because she just looks like she

1512
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:24,039
has features similar to them both,
so that you just have okay, yeah,

1513
01:28:24,079 --> 01:28:27,119
yeah, yeah, So here's here's
the right pick one, you pick

1514
01:28:27,199 --> 01:28:31,079
one front yeah. Here here here's
the writer. So they wrote Drastic World,

1515
01:28:31,159 --> 01:28:36,239
Congskull Island, Jurassic World, Fall
and Kingdom, Detective Peach, Pikachu,

1516
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:42,199
Jurassic World Dominion, and Rise of
Skywalker. Right, so I see,

1517
01:28:42,399 --> 01:28:45,560
because I remember you talking that you
weren't happy with the writer and it's

1518
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:47,439
not I understand why, but yeah, I also understand why they why they

1519
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:49,800
picked that person. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, we told them

1520
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:54,880
the discord, right because the billion
dollar like massive hit movies other than Pikachi,

1521
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:00,239
they're all hit movies, Oscar winning
editor writer all yeah, yeah,

1522
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,840
So how do you feel about one
pitch? So you feel like, okay,

1523
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,640
they could do both, which I
think maybe. I think if they

1524
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:09,880
do, what I'd like is they
do the live action one with an adult

1525
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,439
and I would love it if they
did the animation in the style of like

1526
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,479
wind Waker or something like that,
like really set them apart where the animation

1527
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:19,359
could be like the kid link your
two you know young link to link and

1528
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:24,880
then animation is you know your guy
or Percy Jackson kid or Hunter shaff for

1529
01:29:25,039 --> 01:29:28,720
like my god, yeah, you're
your pick. So that's I like,

1530
01:29:29,319 --> 01:29:32,199
how would you feel if they said
they were going to do it without Zeldo

1531
01:29:32,279 --> 01:29:34,520
If they're like, we don't want
to cross streams, so we'll do smash

1532
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,600
rows but zero Zelda, zero link, zero anything. Uh yeah, I

1533
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:45,439
think you could get away with it. I think you get away with it.

1534
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,039
But I feel like with Zelda what
you mentioned there of like win Waker

1535
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:53,119
versus Breatha Wild versus okoare Time,
you have so many different art styles and

1536
01:29:53,359 --> 01:29:59,479
tones as well. Yeah, exactly
that that art style that who knows what

1537
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,199
they go for for the live action
movie. But I think no matter what,

1538
01:30:02,279 --> 01:30:05,800
you could still do something different,
Like I don't know what what kind

1539
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:10,600
of era do you think they're going
to try and match up esthetically with one

1540
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,800
of those eras of Zelder? Are
they just going to kind of do their

1541
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,399
own thing for this live action?
Oh? For live action? I think

1542
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,760
it. I have to in my
crystal Ball if there is for like,

1543
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,720
if there was a live action animated
for sure, then I think they'd say

1544
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:27,680
we got to go with this style. If there's not, I think it's

1545
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:32,479
just kind of fantasy. Like I
think the the director did say something about

1546
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:36,079
a certain kind of like anime aesthetic, and I don't think like exactly the

1547
01:30:36,119 --> 01:30:39,680
old school anime, but there's some
movie he would say. I mean,

1548
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:41,880
if he said that, I would
think Breath of the While. That seems

1549
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,239
to me, I agree with you, like Ghibly anime ish sort of thing.

1550
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:46,760
I don't know if it was Ghibli, but I think it was something

1551
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:51,359
like that, like Zelda inspiration.
But I think they I would hope so

1552
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:57,800
to me if they're not, because
I just like an illumination, go ahead,

1553
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:00,000
a live action Miyazaki film and that's
the one like burn the Hair,

1554
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:02,760
so and to me that makes sense. And like for me, if you

1555
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:08,960
are a director or writer and you
don't have like an like a visual idea

1556
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,000
for Zella, to me, you
wouldn't get the job. It's like you've

1557
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:15,640
gotta have. I would think that's
a thing you'd have to have for this

1558
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:19,359
movie, whether it's whatever era.
You should have a take and a look

1559
01:31:19,399 --> 01:31:23,560
for it should not just look like
generic fantasy movie you know, like has

1560
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:27,520
a look. I think you just
Yeah, for this animated one, I

1561
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,279
think you just straight up go like
Akring of Time style. You really tone

1562
01:31:30,359 --> 01:31:34,760
up that saturation, that brightness.
Uh. And you have stupid jokes of

1563
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:40,760
Link rolling into a wall and bonking
and like smashing urn and like doing all

1564
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:45,199
the crazy noises that he does.
Uh. You have like the the fairy

1565
01:31:45,319 --> 01:31:48,560
that I'm greatting in the name of
like just being really annoying. Yeah,

1566
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:54,560
I think you go you go hard
on that tone and obviously an okrew time

1567
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,560
even and especially with drors mask get
pretty dark, and you touch on that

1568
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,920
to some extent in the way that
the mar movie has like like a scary

1569
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,359
moment or two. And then like
Bowsers talking about killing Mario like he's dropping,

1570
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:10,640
he's dropping the k we're in this
situation, but like it's still is

1571
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,880
illumination, lighthearted and fun. So
I think I think you got to and

1572
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,000
maybe for that then you go with
I don't know, I guess if you're

1573
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,000
doing awkward time, you're doing like
a time travel thing or there's young and

1574
01:32:21,039 --> 01:32:24,520
adult Link. I guess you could
go that way, But I feel like

1575
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,560
the illumination style to me, like, just just young Link, you just

1576
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,279
go with that vicration of it.
Yeah, wind Waker's cool and all,

1577
01:32:32,039 --> 01:32:34,279
but I don't think you do that
for the the sup Like, I don't

1578
01:32:34,279 --> 01:32:36,760
think you do that as I think
they'll super Smash Bros. I think that's

1579
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,640
like more of the deviation. And
I don't know if they ever do that

1580
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,600
in the movie sense, I just
want that art style. I'd love to

1581
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:45,399
see some Steo try and do that
art style they do. They have a

1582
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:49,359
sequence in the movie somehow where he's
going time traveling and then somehow gets sucked

1583
01:32:49,359 --> 01:32:53,199
into some other dimensions. We threw
a Mario pipe in the wall and then

1584
01:32:53,239 --> 01:32:55,840
like, yeah, you see that, you go into win Waker World for

1585
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,319
like five minutes, So you can
get that. You can have fun with

1586
01:32:58,359 --> 01:33:00,479
it, but it doesn't have to
be the whole thing. I think you

1587
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:02,199
can can still get a little bit
of that. Yeah, i'd agree.

1588
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:05,319
I hope something like that happens and
for me on the Smash film and of

1589
01:33:05,399 --> 01:33:10,079
course, like I want the he
and you know Selha wasn't in the original

1590
01:33:10,159 --> 01:33:13,039
game, right, it was just
Link who Sorry, Zelda wasn't in the

1591
01:33:13,079 --> 01:33:15,239
original the very first Link. Yeah, just like I'd want him there,

1592
01:33:15,239 --> 01:33:18,159
but at the same point, I
could also let's say they said they didn't

1593
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:19,920
want to do that. You know, we don't want to cross Paul Nate,

1594
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,960
we don't want to do anime movie, we won't to do anything.

1595
01:33:23,239 --> 01:33:26,479
Maybe there's like an Easter egg or
two. But I could see them maybe

1596
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,560
taking the route because I do think
I'm completely fine that I read comics,

1597
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,880
I love the games, but maybe
they want to stick to just the really

1598
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:39,600
more cartoony characters like a Donkey Kong, Mario Star, faux Kirby, you

1599
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:44,479
know, things like that where Samus
link like you not that they would get

1600
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:45,880
there, but like you know,
snake like there's something more like human.

1601
01:33:47,079 --> 01:33:50,680
I would not trust illumination with Metroid. Yeah, and that's where I wonder

1602
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,000
too, if like that's the idea
of well, like, of course I

1603
01:33:54,199 --> 01:33:57,680
love them to be there, but
you don't need Zelda Ford to happen the

1604
01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:00,279
same way the Avengers. The Avengers
didn't have members on that team when they

1605
01:34:00,319 --> 01:34:03,000
first did it, right, so
I could see the pitch of, hey,

1606
01:34:03,039 --> 01:34:08,039
if Zelda's not included, that's still
fine because Natino has like a pluth

1607
01:34:08,039 --> 01:34:10,880
throa of characters, and I think
there are somewhere It's like, it's fun

1608
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:13,680
when we play the game, but
in a movie world is like, how

1609
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,720
does Sam's fit into this? Right? Like the space when we're star Fucks.

1610
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:18,119
You see star Fucks and Mario's side
by side, Go, okay,

1611
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:21,760
these are two kind of goofy characters, like I can buy this right away.

1612
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:25,279
So and I think too, like
you want to be realistic, you

1613
01:34:25,279 --> 01:34:29,119
don't want to even the first roster
of the video game, you can't.

1614
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,720
I just think they do that size
wise with the Pokemon and all the Mario

1615
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:35,199
characters, Like you'd have to limit
the Pokemon. Yeah, I wonder rights

1616
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:39,399
wise how that Yeah, I don't
think. Yeah, I don't think they

1617
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,720
they'd hammer that out because what do
we they gonna make it happen? Though,

1618
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,479
because I feel like you need I
think you need Mario, Zelda,

1619
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:50,840
and Pokemon. I think those are
the three pillars because someone like starf Like

1620
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,720
I don't know if Starfux is getting
anyone to buy a ticket for this,

1621
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:57,479
and the answer is yes, But
like, I don't know. I think

1622
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,960
you need. I think you need
bigger names than and I think that's how

1623
01:35:00,079 --> 01:35:03,600
that's how you do it. You
get Pokemon in there, because there's so

1624
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,439
much you can do with Pokemon.
You know, you you put squirrel in

1625
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:11,079
like in the movie for five seconds
and people will give it a ten out

1626
01:35:11,079 --> 01:35:13,439
of ten. There's a lot of
a lot of Pokemon fans out there,

1627
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:17,119
so let's see. I was just
look on the original roster cam Fuck,

1628
01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:19,840
can you get kem falk in there? Yeah? I wonder if it's just

1629
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:24,840
like you get like a lot of
just Mario characters, because what you got

1630
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:27,560
don Kong? We know that's gonna
happen. I mean yeah, Donkey Kong

1631
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,439
would probably get his own movie first, right, so that makes sense link.

1632
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:33,159
I think Star Fucks would another Mario
sequel, right, And I think

1633
01:35:33,239 --> 01:35:36,800
Yoshi could do Yoshi's Island and stuff, and I just really you think they

1634
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:41,119
do Yo? No, Yoshi's just
in Mario? I think no. I

1635
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:43,680
think if Mari, I think with
it being a billion dollar movie, they

1636
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,640
will. I think they're gonna like
Despicable Me. How do you think they

1637
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:50,039
could pull off a Yoshi movie?
Yes? You know why full movie with

1638
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:56,079
Baby Mario. The merch sells itself. Don Baby Mario here grows like,

1639
01:35:56,359 --> 01:36:00,159
what's the character, what's the what's
the dialogue is Yoshi talking in in this

1640
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:05,840
they get Robert Downey as Yoshi,
Like what are they The minions don't talk

1641
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,239
though, right, and they have
their own movie. They pair them up

1642
01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:12,600
with other characters that can talk.
So I think you just pair Yoshian baby

1643
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:15,880
Mario with somebody that can talk and
then you're you're good to go. Do

1644
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,560
you even have a Yusha Yoshi move
at that point? It's just like Troy

1645
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:23,000
just sados in there if dispictleed me. You got these character memort like,

1646
01:36:23,039 --> 01:36:26,119
and they got their own movie yoshikund
that can be Yosha. Don't the minion

1647
01:36:26,239 --> 01:36:29,800
the minions talk? Don't they know? They speak in like they say but

1648
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,960
no noah, but that's about it. They don't they speak minioniese Yeah,

1649
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:38,960
Okay, that's that's the thing where
I'm I think the only ever illumination thing

1650
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:42,640
I've ever seen is is Mario.
So I don't I don't know they're chops

1651
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,560
in that way, but I guess
you're because that's the other thing I was

1652
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,399
thinking is like Kirby, pretty big
character, but like, I don't you

1653
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:48,880
do Kirby movie? Like what do
you? How do you make that work?

1654
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,760
But I guess if you don't do
link, Yeah, you got something

1655
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:57,680
there with that. I also think
animal crossing could be one that's not in

1656
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,439
the original game. It's not even
in Melee, not even in But I

1657
01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,520
think I think you do animal Crossing
potentially a big deal. Do you touch

1658
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:12,159
Earthbound or Ice Climbers, Ice Climbers? Know? I think Ness you Ness

1659
01:37:12,159 --> 01:37:14,560
could be in Smash, but he
wouldn't have his own movie. Yeah,

1660
01:37:15,159 --> 01:37:17,600
yeah, all right, Yeah,
we'll see. That's what I'm wonderingular I

1661
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,760
think. I also think like there
will do Luigi's Manter movie that will make

1662
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,039
Luigi bigger, So I could see
a lot of Yeah, I could see

1663
01:37:25,039 --> 01:37:29,000
a lot of the Super Smash.
Yeah, I played like walking Phoenix.

1664
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:35,399
I would love whenever it looks in
the mirror, it's just actually walking inside.

1665
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:40,279
Yeah. No, I think we'll
have the way and see. I

1666
01:37:40,279 --> 01:37:43,640
think that's what I'm waiting from that
shoot to drop to see if they announce

1667
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,640
a Zelda anime movie, because I
think that'll tell us a lot. And

1668
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,479
I could see the Super Smash Bro's
movie being littered with just a lot of

1669
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:56,399
Mario characters, Peach Warreo. Yeah, like they could just take that route.

1670
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:59,239
Because it is super smash, right. The Pokemon thing, I don't

1671
01:37:59,239 --> 01:38:01,039
know because I just don't know if
you need them. I think you need

1672
01:38:01,079 --> 01:38:04,319
them truly. I think for the
higher emblem. What do you think about

1673
01:38:04,359 --> 01:38:09,279
fire emblem to niche, I think
to get a movie still, probably right,

1674
01:38:09,359 --> 01:38:11,720
not for part one. Not for
part one. They got a locked

1675
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:15,359
down Pokemon first. I just I
just don't know because it's in that company.

1676
01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:18,319
Always kind of weird with Nintendo in
general too sometimes posmon. Yeah,

1677
01:38:18,399 --> 01:38:21,199
so they're a separate company. Yeah
they're not. Yeah, Like are they

1678
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:24,239
gonna be like take the call,
like, hey, we want you to

1679
01:38:24,279 --> 01:38:28,159
be in our movie and like what's
the profit mark? Like it would to

1680
01:38:28,199 --> 01:38:30,600
me be like much like Spider Man
with Marvel and Sony. There'd be have

1681
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:34,760
to be many lawyers in a room
cracking down who gets what profit wise.

1682
01:38:36,039 --> 01:38:42,000
I just don't feel like Pokemon's that
defensive with their ip okay you know me

1683
01:38:42,079 --> 01:38:45,359
on that. There's like a million
Pokemon movies and TV shows, like they

1684
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:49,279
know that stuff works and it gets
fans out there. They did DETECTI Pikachu,

1685
01:38:49,319 --> 01:38:51,880
so they got the animation style down, you know, get the creepy

1686
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:57,319
Jiggley puff in there. Goddamn.
Well, we'll see, we'll see.

1687
01:38:57,319 --> 01:38:59,800
But I like that there's deep I
like those rumors going around, and I

1688
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:01,840
hope with pitch goes well. I
want them to take it. I pitch

1689
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,439
good because if not, then we're
gonna get a bunch of solo stuff.

1690
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:09,760
So what if we just call it
like a game and watch movie, then

1691
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,640
it's over. It's over. The
universe is over before it starts. You

1692
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,600
know. That's like starting with Quantumedia. You don't start with Quantumedia or second

1693
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:20,520
with it. But yeah, alright, so now if you want to to

1694
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,640
in case you don't want anything,
but I guess that we're not gonna be

1695
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,680
talking about any spoiler stuff. We're
gonna talking about stuff that is out there

1696
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,039
and stuff but nothing because I don't
even think that's out there. But we're

1697
01:39:29,039 --> 01:39:31,720
gonna be talking about this big Insomniac
Wolverine leaks. I would say there's spoilers

1698
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:38,520
involved in this. I mean yeah, but I it's I guess for me,

1699
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:43,000
it's just like with the character roster
being out there, Like, I

1700
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,039
get it, it is a spoiler, but to me, it's not like,

1701
01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:46,520
ah, man, that's ruined the
game for me. You know,

1702
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,840
like, like, I don't think
there's anything that's ruined the game for me.

1703
01:39:49,279 --> 01:39:51,479
If anything, like it did make
me more except but like, what

1704
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,479
do you what do you know about
this this league so far? Have you

1705
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,000
watched all the footage, looked at
all the Discord stuff? Have you?

1706
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:00,960
Where have you been on it?
I've looked through the Discord stuff good,

1707
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,439
and that's pretty much the extent.
Honestly, I didn't really dig too much

1708
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:09,680
deeper than that, but even that
was like, holy shit, there's a

1709
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,720
lot to chew on. I need
to place myself here. Yeah, what

1710
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:15,359
do you think about just the in
game stuff? First? I'm curious,

1711
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,680
uh, the like footage of I
guess, yeah, well I guess there

1712
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,239
was the footage of Gene. I
just saw, like the foot of Gene.

1713
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:27,000
She's a playable She's for sure playable
character. So our MJ missions and

1714
01:40:27,039 --> 01:40:30,359
Wolverine are going to be Gene Gray
missions, which I think are a but

1715
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,279
now you're gonna have a magic,
telekinetic floating character and low stealth character and

1716
01:40:34,279 --> 01:40:38,960
they can actually fight massive step up
to me. Yeah, I mean,

1717
01:40:40,039 --> 01:40:43,560
of course, it's very early,
rough footage that is missing a lot of

1718
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:46,520
art and whatnot from what I've seen
so obviously in that way, it's like,

1719
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,239
ah, I mean, it doesn't
look amazing, but I I am

1720
01:40:50,319 --> 01:40:55,720
very excited for what we have cooking
in the next few years with Insomniac.

1721
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,960
I guess I'll put it that way. But yeah, I gotta go to

1722
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,760
this gene footage because that I want
to see that. In part, that's

1723
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:03,560
because I don't think I need to
see videos of what like Wolverine looks like

1724
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,399
you have to know, like I
already have one hundred percent faith, but

1725
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:10,520
like, I gotta see what this
uh jeen gray stuff looks like. So

1726
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,960
I'm more curious on that. So
how did that look? The magic and

1727
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,119
whatnot? It looks good. She's
popping off some purple magic. She was

1728
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:18,760
fighting off multiple enemies. She had
like projectiles and stuff, and yeah,

1729
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:23,640
she was I think floating a little, so it looked good. I'm all

1730
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,920
of that look good to me.
I love. People are kind of comparing

1731
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,319
it. They said it looked like
a Arkham Asylum meets God of War,

1732
01:41:30,359 --> 01:41:32,199
And I think we had talked about
before where God of War might be a

1733
01:41:32,199 --> 01:41:36,279
good template for them where it's minor
the open world, but not really it's

1734
01:41:36,279 --> 01:41:40,640
a to and from and it looks
like it's that it has stuff like the

1735
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,479
Batman thing. It fits for Wolverine
where Batman has the Tech Division and he

1736
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,960
is like smell a vision where he's
going around and smelling stuff and that's like

1737
01:41:48,039 --> 01:41:50,960
leading the trace. Like that's really
cool. Some of the action, Like

1738
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,239
it's kind of like what you said
were because and saw me. I trust

1739
01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:59,560
them, But it was like a
reaffirming of all this just looks like when

1740
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,880
it looks like it's gonna be if
this to me looks good when we hit

1741
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,399
the found product, this is gonna
be great, Like this looks exactly like

1742
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:08,560
everything I wanted from there, and
which I mean, yeah, I didn't

1743
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,239
like, would anyone have any doubts? Like in Somac has just been absolutely

1744
01:42:11,279 --> 01:42:14,760
crushing it for years at this point, so yeah, yeah, I feel

1745
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,239
like I we had a one hundredercent
faith. It's just it's cool to see

1746
01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:20,920
other characters, I guess because that's
the stuff we didn't really know about.

1747
01:42:21,279 --> 01:42:24,640
Well, that's that's what I was
gonna ask you, what do you do

1748
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:28,800
you want to talk about the rumored
lineup or do you want to talk about

1749
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,760
the rumored game lineup? First?
Maybe, oh man, maybe start with

1750
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:42,399
the game laneup. So the gene
thing's interesting because so the supposed roadmap came

1751
01:42:42,399 --> 01:42:45,079
out and that's where you know it's
out there, and so so far it

1752
01:42:45,079 --> 01:42:48,560
sounds like we're getting Venom twenty twenty
five, which is a far way way.

1753
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:54,239
But I think that's just like a
Miles Morales equivalent where smaller game can

1754
01:42:54,279 --> 01:42:59,600
I this is a spoiler conversation.
Sure, spider Man two question if he's

1755
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,680
playing on that game, I've guessing
Spider Man absolutely, yes, Okay,

1756
01:43:02,039 --> 01:43:05,199
that what fantastic. I can't wait
for you to play it. They like

1757
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:09,720
hit it, They hit home run
with the whole sequence. You do a

1758
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:14,760
boss fight sequence, so it's just
like one part or it is the open

1759
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:17,279
world with him afterwards. No,
you could. They fixed it. There

1760
01:43:17,319 --> 01:43:20,000
was a bug where you could escape
and go over the world. But it's

1761
01:43:20,039 --> 01:43:25,399
like a really put together sequence,
but it's not like a cut time sequence.

1762
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:28,720
It's a full level but you're as
Venom, but you there's also a

1763
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,319
boss flight like you fight another big
Spiderman film as Venom, and it's a

1764
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,439
really sad So it doesn't sound like
you were like, oh shit, man,

1765
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:38,079
they should have like had him as
a full playable character. That doesn't

1766
01:43:38,079 --> 01:43:41,119
sound like you're diappointed by the implementation, even if I was limited. I

1767
01:43:41,239 --> 01:43:43,880
wanted that. But I think because
we're in the post Miles Moralese world,

1768
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,760
I just thought this Venom game is
not a surprise. I thought we're gonna

1769
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,960
get that eventually, so to be
playing as them. They nailed that,

1770
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:53,600
and the sequence to me actually went
on longer than I thought it was gonna

1771
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,640
go. I thought it would just
be a slice, and like like an

1772
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,359
MJ mission, it's it's much longer
than any two hours, one hour.

1773
01:44:00,199 --> 01:44:03,279
No, No, it's probably it. I feel like I'm building it up.

1774
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,359
It's probably shorter than that, but
it's just that I'd say it's like

1775
01:44:06,359 --> 01:44:11,399
an MJ mission times too, so
the way she's but it's just like it

1776
01:44:11,079 --> 01:44:14,439
it feels so spoof, like as
DNA, it's like everything you want,

1777
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:17,000
like how we complained about ultimate lines, like he doesn't feel like that's like

1778
01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:20,840
he's so it's so fun. It's
like a dream come true as that.

1779
01:44:21,039 --> 01:44:26,159
So okay, So yeah, that's
that's well, And that's not the first

1780
01:44:26,199 --> 01:44:30,479
thing up, I guess the first
thing up is Spider Man two multiplayer or

1781
01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:34,439
whatever online. I guess yeah there
because that they're back and forth. Yeah,

1782
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:36,800
and that's where people don't know if
it's a for sure thing happening.

1783
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,840
But yeah, I think it goes
SPERMNT two online and then the Venom game,

1784
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:45,960
which I'm really curious about the like
is Speriment two online just you can

1785
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:47,359
just swing around with your friends and
do things at the same time. I

1786
01:44:47,359 --> 01:44:55,880
don't think so I know something that
they just have happened at launch cold,

1787
01:44:56,399 --> 01:45:00,520
Like what is it? What is
I don't know, Like I just don't

1788
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,119
see them doing like six months later, you can now play the game and

1789
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:06,840
co op. I think it's gotta
be. I don't think it's versus though.

1790
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,399
So the only thing I can think
of is like I feel like it's

1791
01:45:10,399 --> 01:45:14,600
like a Ghost of Sashima Legends thing. Oh my god. I think it's

1792
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:18,039
like you and your you and your
homies play these characters and you battle against

1793
01:45:18,359 --> 01:45:20,760
characters. I think, you know, look at what's been going on last

1794
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:25,840
of Us two they did the remake
Master whatever the hell, and then they

1795
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,119
add like a rogue like mode in
there. So it's like kind of like

1796
01:45:28,119 --> 01:45:31,319
this endless sort of thing. God
of War just added that Valhalla DLC to

1797
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,880
Ragnarok, and I feel like that
just makes a lot of sense to do

1798
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:40,600
that kind of formula here with this
where it's like you're you go in and

1799
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,079
yeah, maybe it's like a wave
based thing depending on mode to mode,

1800
01:45:44,119 --> 01:45:47,119
you know, a wave based thing
like Legends has, or just like here's

1801
01:45:47,159 --> 01:45:51,680
a chunk of New York and here's
like randomly generated enemies and a boss fight

1802
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:55,840
or something like that. I feel
like that's what it's got to be because

1803
01:45:55,880 --> 01:46:00,560
I just I don't see them doing
competitive multiplayer and I think co op is

1804
01:46:00,359 --> 01:46:03,680
I just don't. I don't know. Maybe for Spider Man two they would,

1805
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,560
they could do that, like,
oh, six months later, here's

1806
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,920
this co op d I'll see,
But I think looking at the rest of

1807
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:12,000
this roadmap where there's like a game
and then the online game, then the

1808
01:46:12,039 --> 01:46:15,520
online, I don't think they would
continuously do that. I think I think

1809
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:20,359
it's got to be something a little
bit more substantial, not necessarily live service,

1810
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:27,079
but something that's more live service than
just co op. Yeah, the

1811
01:46:27,159 --> 01:46:30,680
Ghost of Shashima pitch, that's like
that's a dream which you know in the

1812
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,880
New Year that was so fucking successful
that was so good, and it was

1813
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:40,039
a huge surprise to because I'm trying
to announce like either shortly after the game

1814
01:46:40,119 --> 01:46:42,640
launched or like right before it launched
it like, hey, later on we're

1815
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:46,119
doing this multiplayer I think it was
right. Yeah, and then they came

1816
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:49,319
out like three or four months afterwards. Yeah, it wasn't that far in

1817
01:46:49,359 --> 01:46:51,760
the new year. We should we
should get back in there. I should.

1818
01:46:53,039 --> 01:46:56,319
Yeah, those are good times.
Yeah, So that that'd be perfect,

1819
01:46:56,359 --> 01:46:58,960
that that would be all I need. I'd love it give and that

1820
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,000
makes sense together too, you know. And that's small enough scale where for

1821
01:47:02,039 --> 01:47:04,239
Spider Man two, like you straight
up just do it two player, like

1822
01:47:04,239 --> 01:47:09,159
it's just you, like someone plays
Pier another player as Miles. And then

1823
01:47:09,199 --> 01:47:12,239
obviously, like years down the road
we get to X Men and Wolverine and

1824
01:47:12,279 --> 01:47:14,880
stuff. That's where you could break
it out to like the classic four player

1825
01:47:15,399 --> 01:47:16,800
thing, and then who knows,
maybe even more X Men in the future.

1826
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,399
You get eight X Men, get
seven of your closest friends, and

1827
01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,199
get the whole roster going. That's
what I was gonna say, like,

1828
01:47:24,199 --> 01:47:28,640
because so that's the roadmap where it's
supposedly, which is strange. It's yeah,

1829
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,439
Spiderman multiplayer Venom Wolverine, which is
rumored to be twenty twenty six.

1830
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,520
So we got a buckle up and
everybody, we gotta we got a ways

1831
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:36,640
to go, and that's just like
the hopeful day. And then there was

1832
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:44,079
a Wolverine online which was odd.
And then the one that to me is

1833
01:47:45,079 --> 01:47:46,960
I don't want to get like Suicide
Squad vibes, because that was the jump

1834
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:51,439
from Batman to like Suicide Squad.
But that was the rumored game in twenty

1835
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,920
thirty. That's a long time way. But like, that's what supposes deal

1836
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,479
League that they did show that x
they signed a deal to have X Men

1837
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:02,640
exclusive to Sony. X Men characters
can be in a situation where if they

1838
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,119
made like a Marvel Lines four,
Wolverine could be in that, but no

1839
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:11,279
one can go make Hey, Xbox
can't make the Storm game. But that's

1840
01:48:11,359 --> 01:48:14,079
the idea that in saw me actually
me making an X Men game, which

1841
01:48:14,119 --> 01:48:17,760
I think is fucking crazy in my
like, that's I did not have that

1842
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:21,079
on my Bengo card, and I
still I would not believe it. But

1843
01:48:21,079 --> 01:48:27,359
the fact that obviously these leaks are
like legit, legit, that's I'm mind

1844
01:48:27,399 --> 01:48:30,399
blown by that that that's even a
concept they're thinking about, because that's something

1845
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:33,479
completely different for them, like a
team based game, like like I don't

1846
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:35,159
know what it would be. I
don't know what it would be. That's

1847
01:48:35,159 --> 01:48:39,159
probably a whole side quest episode in
itself that maybe we could do one day,

1848
01:48:39,199 --> 01:48:42,840
Like what would we build an X
Men game? Well, I mean

1849
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,239
I was gonna do when I thought
when I thought, when I thought X

1850
01:48:46,279 --> 01:48:49,359
Men ninety seven was coming out in
January, that was a cast I had

1851
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,640
put in our calendar, you know, peek behind the curtain here, that

1852
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:55,840
we're still gonna do it even if
there's this Oh absolutely, we're still going

1853
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,239
to do a fictional X Men Legends
three roster. But now we also have

1854
01:48:59,279 --> 01:49:01,119
to do this because that would obviously
be a very different type of roster than

1855
01:49:01,319 --> 01:49:03,840
something like the X Men Legends would
have. So yeah, first of all,

1856
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:06,560
that's a bummer if like that's like
X Men Legends was maybe in the

1857
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,800
works, but then it got like
I don't think that's actually the case,

1858
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:12,760
but if it was, and then
it got kind of killed because of this

1859
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,279
exclusivity thing. But I mean,
I guess Sony could still make X Men

1860
01:49:15,359 --> 01:49:17,640
Legends, but yeah, now we're
getting beside the point, but yeah,

1861
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,600
it is. It is crazy,
But I also feel like they just seem

1862
01:49:21,640 --> 01:49:27,119
to be really building that, like
the infrastructure for that, right, Like

1863
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:30,680
Spider Man, they make this one
game in twenty eighteen, and they can

1864
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,199
really just iterate and keep building off
of it, build off that same New

1865
01:49:34,279 --> 01:49:38,800
York and get Miles Morales out there
as a separate game. Get Spider Man

1866
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:42,600
two. We have two playable characters
or I guess three, and then boom

1867
01:49:42,760 --> 01:49:45,279
you have the Venom thing. It's
like they are just ramping themselves up for

1868
01:49:45,319 --> 01:49:47,680
that so much, and it feels
like, well, we already know I

1869
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:51,319
guess if because this Gene Gray stuff, like that's of course part of like

1870
01:49:51,399 --> 01:49:54,760
the e Wolverine game. It's not
part of the xceraon game, because the

1871
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,159
X Men game is so far away, So like they're already laying the framework

1872
01:49:58,239 --> 01:50:00,039
for that down, because that's not
just like Gene taking pictures with a camera

1873
01:50:00,119 --> 01:50:03,319
like MJ Like, it's that's a
full on move set. And maybe it's

1874
01:50:03,359 --> 01:50:10,000
white as rpg'ed out as Wolverine's like
getting five percent more damage on his claws

1875
01:50:10,119 --> 01:50:13,840
or something like that, but it's
obviously in there, and that makes you

1876
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:17,840
wonder what other characters could be in
that game now hopefully I think Wolverine keep

1877
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:20,600
it somewhat contained. Of course,
and it is called Wolverine. Why would

1878
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,880
they not just call it X Men
if it's more than that? But yeah,

1879
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,159
man, like it seems like they
are laying down the framework for that,

1880
01:50:27,279 --> 01:50:30,399
especially if it's like Wolverine drops,
you got the online thing come out

1881
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:31,880
later, Maybe you have one or
two more play work characters in there,

1882
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,640
and then you're like only one or
two away from an X Men roster at

1883
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:38,640
that point. Like it just it
makes so much sense, and I I

1884
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,439
don't know. Also on this as
like Rotchet and Clank, I don't worry.

1885
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:43,079
I don't think you guys can have
time for that. But then again,

1886
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:46,680
they already did in this new gen
like from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty

1887
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,680
with Miles Morales to Ratching Clank twenty
twenty one, twenty twenty three, Spider

1888
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:56,079
Man two, like they insomni Actually
output is already insane. But I'm just

1889
01:50:56,119 --> 01:51:00,640
so curious, like would you with
an X Men would you have? How

1890
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,800
many members would you have? I
think it'd be relatively small, but I

1891
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:09,640
just like it's different with Spider Man
because it's like it's Miles and Peter that's

1892
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,640
too, and even Venom it's just
like one sequence in the game and then

1893
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,560
you go back, like would the
game work like that too, where it's

1894
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,199
you know, let's say it's Storm, Jean, Scott and Wolverine and then

1895
01:51:18,239 --> 01:51:20,800
the game is, Okay, this
is a Gene mission, this is Scott

1896
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,680
mission. You can go back and
forth. That would that be the way?

1897
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:27,079
Even Wolverine it doesn't sound like it's
working the same way. Right.

1898
01:51:27,079 --> 01:51:30,199
Where Spiderman's an open world game,
Wolverine sounds like it's more God of War

1899
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:32,840
linear. So I guess it might
just be a new challenge for them,

1900
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,119
which I'm always down. I just
like I said, the Suicide Squad has

1901
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:41,399
scared me because that was like I
saw a studio be doing great solo player

1902
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:44,520
games and then go to not that
has to be multiplayer, but that's what

1903
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:45,439
they kind of did, and it
was you know, I don't think it's

1904
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:50,239
working out for them. I mean
that's right. I think there's some maybe

1905
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:56,239
just a different approach that Insomniac's taking
here, where first of all, like,

1906
01:51:56,319 --> 01:51:59,439
yeah, they've spent now three spider
Man games to figure out what Spider

1907
01:51:59,479 --> 01:52:02,159
Man is a gameplay system before they're
jumping into this online thing. So when

1908
01:52:02,199 --> 01:52:05,039
they're jumping into Wolverine, that feels
like, okay, from Wolverine to Wolverine

1909
01:52:05,079 --> 01:52:11,119
Online, Like that feels like a
much shorter leap. But I don't know.

1910
01:52:11,159 --> 01:52:14,960
I feel like they are taking a
better approach to it by like kind

1911
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:18,079
of slowly building up into these things
and are establishing this is what Wolverine is

1912
01:52:18,119 --> 01:52:23,199
as a game, and then we're
gonna add online afterwards. I feel like

1913
01:52:23,239 --> 01:52:27,520
that's a better approach to me than
the Marvel's Avengers approach or the Suicide Squad

1914
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:30,039
approach, which is like built from
the ground up as a live service game.

1915
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,039
This does not seem like that.
It seems like, how can we

1916
01:52:33,079 --> 01:52:38,239
take these great action adventure games that
people already love, and how can we

1917
01:52:38,359 --> 01:52:41,520
let people play together with their friends? Because that is such a big part

1918
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,680
of the superhero fantasy as a thing. So it seems like that was the

1919
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:49,880
second step after making a really solid
game and foundation to build upon, So

1920
01:52:50,199 --> 01:52:54,560
to me, it seems like a
much better approach. Now there's also that

1921
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:59,359
side of it where Sony has like
really been trying to double down on live

1922
01:52:59,399 --> 01:53:01,199
service thing, but then they also
have canceled a bunch of them, including

1923
01:53:01,199 --> 01:53:05,239
the last which was just happened.
So and then like Jim Ryan's leaving PlayStation

1924
01:53:05,399 --> 01:53:09,760
soon, so who knows, maybe
that whole life. Yeah, like that

1925
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:13,319
could take a huge pivot here sooner
rather than later. And I feel like

1926
01:53:13,359 --> 01:53:16,119
it's smart because I feel like we
say with Avengers and Suicide Squad that maybe

1927
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:19,439
it was just too late before they
could really like it. Yeah, it

1928
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:25,399
is, And with the timing of
how all this stuff has worked, Insomniac

1929
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:30,279
and Sony have both dann they got
a lot of insight from what Marvel's Avengers

1930
01:53:30,399 --> 01:53:34,000
was and how poorly that was executed, even though those character move sets were

1931
01:53:34,039 --> 01:53:36,520
fantastic, right, Like, that's
not really what the issue was there,

1932
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:40,800
And so I feel like they're taking
it the right approach here, and so

1933
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:44,039
yeah, I think they it helps
that they've had that lesson Suicide Squad.

1934
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:46,159
You might look at the calendar and
think, oh, they had Marvels Avengers

1935
01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:48,920
to learn from. They have in
hindsight they can maybe modify some things,

1936
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:53,359
but still that game is being developed
for fucking decade at this point. Like

1937
01:53:53,399 --> 01:53:56,600
they didn't far. It was a
different world when that game started development than

1938
01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:00,640
from when Wolverine, I guess,
spider Man two, Wolverine Online, and

1939
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,520
then X Men Online which hasn't even
started yet. But I think all these

1940
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:06,920
things, I just I guess I
have so much faith in Insomniac to nail

1941
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:11,760
it. And to me, they're
taking like they're not taking huge leaps and

1942
01:54:11,760 --> 01:54:14,880
swings, you know, pun intended
on swings. They're just taking like one

1943
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:16,800
step out of time, and I
think they're like, because of that,

1944
01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:23,239
they're gonna pace themselves well into what
could be very successful online. And I

1945
01:54:23,239 --> 01:54:26,079
don't know if if it is just
fucking legends, I'm happy with that.

1946
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,039
Yeah, ghost of stream of Legends, be clear, not ex legends.

1947
01:54:29,159 --> 01:54:33,359
Yeah, they're doing They're doing a
beat down arcade type game, which I'd

1948
01:54:33,359 --> 01:54:38,800
love to be with with Wolverine and
X Men all that, Like that whole

1949
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:42,520
roguelike setup of just facing random and
endies like that, you got the danger

1950
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,479
room like that just creates that,
you know, you can have any situation

1951
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,880
where you could bring in whatever villain
who even they don't even make sense in

1952
01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:51,479
real life, but because they're in
the danger room when they're not real and

1953
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:56,239
like that works, so you could
just have crazy combinations going against each other.

1954
01:54:56,279 --> 01:54:59,680
That just seems like too easy to
do it that way. I hope

1955
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,159
it all. It's because I can't
wait seven years from now we're sitting down

1956
01:55:02,399 --> 01:55:06,600
talking about a X Men game.
That that's that's that's those the days we

1957
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:10,880
dreamed for, you know, a
nice, big, huge Triple A studio

1958
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:14,439
doing an X Men game. You
know, and Blade happened and stuff,

1959
01:55:14,479 --> 01:55:17,359
So, uh, you got anything
add on the overall? I have just

1960
01:55:17,399 --> 01:55:20,399
the few character lineup I want to
go down with anything overall on some of

1961
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:28,720
these uh, these things out there, let's see here. Of course,

1962
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:30,600
I've tried to mention Spiderman three's and
the game plan too, but I think

1963
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,640
we all kind of know that was
gonna that's a right, no given,

1964
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:36,800
no, duh, so right?
Which will be the fifth Spider Man game

1965
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:40,760
they make at that point, yeah, kind of or even six if you

1966
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,840
count online as a separate thing.
That's kind of crazy how how much they're

1967
01:55:43,880 --> 01:55:45,640
doing that. But no, I
mean, uh, I feel like Gambit

1968
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,479
has a good chance of being on
that X Men game. I just feel

1969
01:55:47,479 --> 01:55:50,319
like he makes sense for a roster
wise, because some characters, like even

1970
01:55:50,359 --> 01:55:55,920
Cyclops, I oh, do you
really like? Is Cyclopes fun? What

1971
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,319
are you trying to say if you
really want to play the Cyclaus that you're

1972
01:55:58,319 --> 01:56:01,640
saying, I play cycle but like
he's maybe the bottom of the not bottom

1973
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,159
of the barrel. But I just
feel like Gambits, like that's the fun

1974
01:56:04,239 --> 01:56:08,359
like Storm Gambit, those are those
are fun characters. That's why I want

1975
01:56:08,359 --> 01:56:11,000
to do a cast because I just
like I can't wrap my brain around in

1976
01:56:11,079 --> 01:56:13,600
Samnick, like just who do you
pick and what do you limit it to?

1977
01:56:13,640 --> 01:56:16,479
Because to me, when you say
X Men, like I like,

1978
01:56:16,479 --> 01:56:21,000
like I said, like it being
even three characters, that's just straight to

1979
01:56:21,039 --> 01:56:26,479
me, it has to be a
beefy roster, not beefy. But like

1980
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:29,359
I think, to me, five
is usually the minimum of X Men,

1981
01:56:29,399 --> 01:56:31,880
you know, and I think you
can get away with you know, Xavier

1982
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:36,359
and Beast are in the game,
they're not playable or something, and still

1983
01:56:36,399 --> 01:56:40,359
have a ton of stuff with them, and so it still feels like an

1984
01:56:40,439 --> 01:56:42,920
X Men game because you're hanging out
the X Mansion, all these characters are

1985
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:45,399
there, and you know, maybe
like Jubilee's there, but she's just like

1986
01:56:45,439 --> 01:56:46,760
taking classes she's not allowed to go
on like battles yet, you know,

1987
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:53,920
you get like that, that's your
mini mission as MJ. But it's Jubilee

1988
01:56:54,039 --> 01:56:57,840
like a beast. Yeah, one
day we'll talk about it. I was

1989
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,239
gonna say something else, but yeah, there's definitely all or squeezed much.

1990
01:57:01,279 --> 01:57:03,319
I'm with you on Gambit though.
By the way, Yeah, Gambits,

1991
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:06,720
he's one of my favorite characters.
He was not he didn't make it to

1992
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:12,439
All to Alliance Street Dead, but
we should save this for he got his

1993
01:57:12,479 --> 01:57:16,840
own Yeah exactly, But yeah,
that's all okay, So some of these

1994
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:21,439
characters came out. Leech is supposedly
gonna be in this game, so that's

1995
01:57:21,479 --> 01:57:26,760
that's a fun Leech memories in the
sewers. Yeah, yeah, uh you

1996
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:30,119
got I'll skip like the bartender and
stuff. Leach to me feels like a

1997
01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:34,479
kind of equivalent to like mister Negative
and the way, like I guess Leech

1998
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:36,439
is more known than mister Negative,
but the way that was like, oh,

1999
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,680
there was a huge character in Spider
Man twenty teen, Everyone's like,

2000
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,800
who's this guy? I feel like
Leech could uh kind of be like that.

2001
01:57:42,840 --> 01:57:44,720
I don't know, not that he
would be the main villain. I'm

2002
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:47,359
not saying that, no. I
I think the description is a young mute

2003
01:57:47,359 --> 01:57:50,680
that Jean's taken care of. So
I think he's a very like new not

2004
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:54,199
a villain. He's not even a
villain. Don't why I assumed to be

2005
01:57:54,199 --> 01:57:57,800
a villain. The poor guy dying
on Christmas like he must be the villain.

2006
01:57:58,319 --> 01:58:00,079
I think he's gonna be like a
New X Men crude or maybe someone

2007
01:58:00,079 --> 01:58:03,960
Logan finds along the way and drops
him off. The mansion. One that

2008
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:10,640
was getting people excited Mystique, who
is supposedly popping off, so it's always

2009
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:13,760
good when she's there. She's a
trustique because that's you can do so many

2010
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:17,600
fun plot twists that, yeah,
save or tooth, not a big like

2011
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:23,560
you gotta have him there, right. We talked about Geen Gray. Troy

2012
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:29,359
Baker is supposedly playing mister Sinister,
which I think is a very interesting There

2013
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:32,880
is plot points about what they're gonna
have this character do already not gonna read

2014
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,880
them out. It's a fucking wild
take, I'll say that for what they're

2015
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:42,039
planning and making him relate to the
story, but I could see him being

2016
01:58:42,079 --> 01:58:45,920
the overall Are you trying to look
what it's out there. No, I

2017
01:58:45,239 --> 01:58:49,000
thought of a thing that I mentioned. Uh okay, the thing that I

2018
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:50,920
was trying to think of earlier.
I remember, so I wrote down,

2019
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:54,640
so I don't forget it. Fort
okay. I could see him being like

2020
01:58:54,680 --> 01:58:58,800
the overall man behind the curtain villain, like all this stuff's happening, Who's

2021
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:01,239
behind it, mister Sinners? And
I think Troy Baker, that's great casting.

2022
01:59:01,399 --> 01:59:03,680
Yeah, I do too. I
think that's a good one. One.

2023
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:09,359
That table was pretty excited about an
im too, Sasquatch. It's this

2024
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:13,880
game, so maybe we'll get some
Alpha flight connections and stuff like that.

2025
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:15,399
I'd love to. I don't know
if you'll fight them all, but just

2026
01:59:15,399 --> 01:59:19,159
to see some of them that'd be
great. Another I think kind of noda

2027
01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:24,039
Lady dev Strike. You know,
so tied do Old Rain and this one

2028
01:59:24,079 --> 01:59:27,560
could have been a NODA, but
like, I don't care. I'm very

2029
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,680
excited. There's a game, Wolverine
Revenge. It was based on X two.

2030
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:34,359
It really wasn't. It has nothing
to do. It's a movie time

2031
01:59:34,439 --> 01:59:38,000
game that had nothing to do Next
two other than they origin me the same.

2032
01:59:38,359 --> 01:59:40,800
But they had an end credit scene
in that game setting up the sequel.

2033
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,520
I never got it, and it
was Wolverine. He the whole game,

2034
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,159
he's trying to find he's trying to
remember this character because he's gonna go

2035
01:59:45,199 --> 01:59:47,840
take revenge on them the next game. And he wakes up and he goes

2036
01:59:48,199 --> 01:59:51,960
Omega Red and he hears he said
Omego Red, Omego Red. I never

2037
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,720
got that sequel. So I've been
waiting for years to fight Omega Red.

2038
01:59:55,960 --> 01:59:59,000
And Omego Red is supposedly in this
game. There's concept part of him.

2039
01:59:59,039 --> 02:00:01,239
He's looking fucking bad ass, but
he's something that maybe could have been an

2040
02:00:01,239 --> 02:00:04,560
ODAB. But that for me is
just a high pick of that is a

2041
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:08,760
boss battle. I'm looking very forward
to. That could be a very fun

2042
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:13,520
just all those tentacles, the metal, Like you could have a real good

2043
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,720
time with that. So for me, some of these are offices, but

2044
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:16,880
like I feel like it's kind of
like what we're talking about with the Desk

2045
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,359
Randing movie, where if let's say
they feel that they could only make one

2046
02:00:19,399 --> 02:00:24,920
Wolverine game, they're hitting the right
stuff, Death Strike, Saber tooth,

2047
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,760
Omega Red. You know, like
maybe there's even a flashback mission of you

2048
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:30,760
and X Force. I don't know, but they're there. I think the

2049
02:00:30,840 --> 02:00:36,319
lineup is like perfect, but the
message whoa my light just cluched with the

2050
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:41,920
with some some of the concept art
that you've seen here, because with twenty

2051
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:45,000
eighteen and I haven't played Speriament two
yet, I haven't seen all these character

2052
02:00:45,039 --> 02:00:48,159
designs in detail, but they obviously
took a very like robotronic kind of design

2053
02:00:48,199 --> 02:00:51,760
for a lot of these characters,
like rather than being I guess supernatural,

2054
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:57,239
it was like they just had big
robot scorpion legs and that's what you know.

2055
02:00:57,319 --> 02:00:59,760
Maybe and we didn't necessarily love the
art styles some of those things.

2056
02:01:00,039 --> 02:01:01,720
Do you feel about the art direction
they've gone for, Like I mean you

2057
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:05,039
mentioned like you Omega Red. So
is it because they stuck to more comic

2058
02:01:05,079 --> 02:01:09,159
accurate stuff or are they do doing
a different insamia spin on it, but

2059
02:01:09,199 --> 02:01:13,039
it's still a look that you're enjoying. There's a little bit of a spin.

2060
02:01:13,079 --> 02:01:16,840
Like I think Omega Red they've made
like a little bit kind of smaller,

2061
02:01:16,920 --> 02:01:19,600
like not as big as opposing but
he has like a tentacle, he

2062
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:24,600
has the mettal going on. Raven
has like the whole like white suit and

2063
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:28,319
everything like that with the skulls just
a skull. The skull belt there is.

2064
02:01:28,359 --> 02:01:30,159
It's very minor. It just looks
like it's just a skull, like

2065
02:01:30,239 --> 02:01:34,239
imprinted. It's not the actual skull. But other than the face, mister

2066
02:01:34,319 --> 02:01:38,560
Sister looks like he would look like
in the An Made series. The face.

2067
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:42,479
They don't have Troy Baker's face.
It is in the concept art.

2068
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:45,800
It is, so it doesn't have
like the weird slid eyes and the teeth,

2069
02:01:45,800 --> 02:01:47,600
which I'm fine if they want to
change that. But even the look

2070
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:50,000
saber too. It's funny like he
looks the same, but then his hair

2071
02:01:50,039 --> 02:01:54,439
is like really curly and looks like
it's been like he got some work done

2072
02:01:54,439 --> 02:01:58,960
on it. So it looks like
they're sticking more to what the designs close

2073
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:00,199
to the calm, so it's not
like a saber tooth because like a big

2074
02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:04,199
metal suit and stuff. It looks
like he's just like a man sabertooth,

2075
02:02:04,279 --> 02:02:08,960
you know, like something's wrong with
him. He's hairy. Mm hmm yeah.

2076
02:02:09,159 --> 02:02:13,199
Supermoun Mike was saying Rift Apart was
linear. They know how to do

2077
02:02:13,239 --> 02:02:15,640
it for over room, which made
me think of man. I feel like

2078
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:20,439
Nightcrawler with the teleporting around and the
the rift apart eness of that, or

2079
02:02:20,479 --> 02:02:23,439
you know, get blink in there. If you want the more low key

2080
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:27,600
pick that would be, that would
be sick. I think I actually Nightcrawler

2081
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,960
with the PS five tech, that
could be a thing where you know,

2082
02:02:30,600 --> 02:02:33,960
the head haunches over at Sonya like, you gotta do Nightcrawler because it shows

2083
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,760
off how good our our tech is
over here, our load times. Yeah,

2084
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:40,079
I never had a deln Wolverine.
For me, it's the X Men

2085
02:02:40,159 --> 02:02:42,960
thing of how do you get that
to be a team game and make it

2086
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:46,039
linear? But maybe like ratchually claking
plays multiple characters and stuff. Have to

2087
02:02:46,039 --> 02:02:48,800
wait till I see how they do
it. But yeah, And I think

2088
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:53,399
because I was looking at like what
multiplayer stuff has Insaomiak done before, and

2089
02:02:53,439 --> 02:02:57,479
I think the only thing they have
done multiplayer was some ratching clank stuff,

2090
02:02:57,479 --> 02:02:59,920
and I think that was just like
in the era where like every game has

2091
02:03:00,560 --> 02:03:03,760
a competitive multiplayer top. Yeah,
so I think that's it. Maybe maybe

2092
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:09,199
there was like a fully dedicated multiplayer
Clink. Two other questions that I remember

2093
02:03:09,279 --> 02:03:12,279
here, One is like, uh, because I don't know, I guess

2094
02:03:12,279 --> 02:03:15,039
the X mansions like near or like
in New York to some extent, is

2095
02:03:15,079 --> 02:03:18,520
this game seem like it's in Is
it like in Spider Man's New York or

2096
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:23,880
what's the setting from the league?
I think you could start, well,

2097
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:26,479
look, I think it's like a
globe trotter. It looks like some people

2098
02:03:26,520 --> 02:03:30,560
compare Charted. Yeah, because there's
one section where he looks like Wolverine's in

2099
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,439
a suit, so it looks like
he's probably in Japan at some point.

2100
02:03:32,439 --> 02:03:34,840
Maybe. Yeah, that's what I
was thinking. So I think it'd be

2101
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,119
a game where it's like, oh, we gotta go to Australia, and

2102
02:03:38,199 --> 02:03:44,039
then again the Australia they say her
too. Thought, Yeah, I think

2103
02:03:44,079 --> 02:03:46,800
it'll be a game that maybe Minister
is just Australian for something. Troy really

2104
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:53,600
wants you to try something. So
yeah, I think I think it'll be

2105
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:58,079
him all over the world in the
Blackbird there mm hmm. Troy Breaker was

2106
02:03:58,079 --> 02:04:00,840
the villain in Miles Morales. I
just remember, you think they would get

2107
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:04,079
him again? Was he? Yeah? I forget the name of the character

2108
02:04:04,079 --> 02:04:08,439
because that character was really boring.
But and what do you mean do you

2109
02:04:08,439 --> 02:04:11,439
think they'd get him again? Like? I don't know, because if there's

2110
02:04:11,439 --> 02:04:15,560
just like some connective like world connectivity
between these things, like obviously it's a

2111
02:04:15,640 --> 02:04:18,479
voice actor and it's Troy Baker,
and you can do things with his voice.

2112
02:04:18,479 --> 02:04:23,000
But did they do that? I
guess they should. I think Troy

2113
02:04:23,039 --> 02:04:25,720
Bakers is a go to guy.
I think just like people like him.

2114
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:28,399
I got, I got A question
is off the top. I don't think

2115
02:04:28,439 --> 02:04:30,840
it would work, do you No? I don't think so, But just

2116
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:36,000
for shoots and giggles like the anime
series, do you think there's any chance

2117
02:04:36,079 --> 02:04:41,199
that X Men game that's just a
default title and one of those characters is

2118
02:04:41,239 --> 02:04:44,560
a Spider Man in there? Just
like the animated series where you got Spider

2119
02:04:44,640 --> 02:04:47,800
Man a part of the X Men
for like a game, because those characters

2120
02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:50,680
made already. I know it's not
the swinging and I don't think it would

2121
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:55,239
happen, but because I just try
to think about their Avengers and I love

2122
02:04:55,319 --> 02:04:59,920
that nineties animated show and Spider Man
teams, I would say no, butout

2123
02:05:00,039 --> 02:05:01,880
the existence of the online stuff makes
me say, yes, why not?

2124
02:05:02,039 --> 02:05:05,239
Why not do that? Why not
just have even Spider Man just throw them

2125
02:05:05,239 --> 02:05:10,359
in there as a villain in this
danger room? Like for sure? Why

2126
02:05:10,359 --> 02:05:14,560
not? You already got that stuff
throw whoever throw Scorpion in there electro like

2127
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,439
I don't know, just anyone will
be built the A yeah, get Ben

2128
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:19,680
and the like. Anyone they've built
assets for, why not just throw them

2129
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:24,600
in that crazy mode Like that would
be so cool because A man, I

2130
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:28,520
don't know if I have this screenshot, it's somewhere in our discord, which

2131
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,239
is a great place to go,
by the way. So absolutely a lot

2132
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:34,079
of stuff. But yeah, on
that, on that multiplayer ambitions thing,

2133
02:05:34,119 --> 02:05:39,039
there was like, okay, multiplayer
architecture, like they're working on that up

2134
02:05:39,079 --> 02:05:43,039
until twenty twenty four, and then
they call multiplayer one point oh is in

2135
02:05:43,079 --> 02:05:45,720
twenty twenty four Spider Man two.
And then in twenty twenty six is when

2136
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:50,119
the Wolverine like Wolverine Online launches and
they call it multiplayer two point zero.

2137
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:55,439
And then when we get to twenty
twenty eight, they those two things merge

2138
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:59,239
and it's multiplayer three point oh and
it's x Men Online. That makes me

2139
02:05:59,279 --> 02:06:04,399
think it could be uh some sort
of like big connective thing and obviously there's

2140
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:08,239
some weirdness with x Men. It's
good to be true Spider Man, but

2141
02:06:08,279 --> 02:06:10,119
I don't know that's how they wrote
it. On the airfograph. I don't

2142
02:06:10,199 --> 02:06:13,039
know, this is yeah stuff but
yeah, and it's lead stuff too,

2143
02:06:13,079 --> 02:06:15,680
right. It could be stuff that
they are playing, like look at what

2144
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:19,279
happened last week. Last of Us
was having a multiplayer live service game and

2145
02:06:19,319 --> 02:06:23,039
then gone just like that. You
know, obviously there's bill to but still

2146
02:06:23,079 --> 02:06:25,399
like, this could be something that
they tinker with and then when they get

2147
02:06:25,439 --> 02:06:28,000
close to going, you know what, let's just stick to the solo games

2148
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:30,119
like this is this is not worth
it at the end of the day.

2149
02:06:30,159 --> 02:06:31,560
We don't know when this information was
taken, right, Like you said,

2150
02:06:31,560 --> 02:06:35,439
the pivot happened, this could all
be information that was before that. And

2151
02:06:35,479 --> 02:06:38,800
now Sony could have said, you
know that stuff you're working on, kill

2152
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:42,920
it. We don't want to do
anything, right but that only no,

2153
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:45,239
no, no, I meant just
the multiplayer aspect, right, like they

2154
02:06:45,239 --> 02:06:47,800
could say, don't do any of
that, we don't actually want. Yeah,

2155
02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,880
I mean if Spider Man two is
supposed to come out, and yeah,

2156
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:54,560
you're right, like this document could
have been leaked from yeah, seven

2157
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,359
years ago or something or like that's
when it could have been made. Who

2158
02:06:57,399 --> 02:07:00,359
knows, but yeah, I mean
if well, I guess the the release

2159
02:07:00,439 --> 02:07:02,840
dates of some of these newer things
wouldn't necessarily line that way. What I'm

2160
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:08,079
thinking, like six months ago,
right two onlines like certainly gonna happen right

2161
02:07:08,119 --> 02:07:11,720
at this point next year, I
thought so, But now I do,

2162
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,920
And if you would ask me pre
leak, I thought, no, I

2163
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:15,520
didn't think that'd be a yeah,
yeah, yeah. So I feel like

2164
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,159
that's I mean, that's at the
very least the testing ground. And if

2165
02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:23,239
they do that and no one cares
or make them zero money or it's really

2166
02:07:23,239 --> 02:07:25,800
buggy or something like that, and
then maybe they just say, ah,

2167
02:07:25,920 --> 02:07:28,800
drop it, We're just gonna focus
on Wolverine and Gene here and then you're

2168
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,560
still the X Men. You just
you don't have to do that multiped three

2169
02:07:30,600 --> 02:07:34,479
point zero. Let's hope integration down
the line, like Suicaid Squad being like,

2170
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:40,000
and sometime in twenty twenty four,
we're gonna make an offline mode some

2171
02:07:40,239 --> 02:07:42,439
point, you know, yeah,
don't do that. Whatever you do,

2172
02:07:42,479 --> 02:07:46,960
Insomniac Avengers, Suicaid Squad, you've
seen happen, just stay as far away

2173
02:07:47,159 --> 02:07:51,600
from from that, you know,
just yeah, yep, stay away.

2174
02:07:53,880 --> 02:07:56,600
I think it's all for me on
this those things. You forgot that you

2175
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,279
wrote down right, Well, I
was one of my questions was gonna be

2176
02:07:59,439 --> 02:08:05,119
just based on the footage like and
Wolverine moving around because of how how much

2177
02:08:05,319 --> 02:08:09,560
like movement options there are in Spider
Man with those characters. I was like,

2178
02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:11,680
Okay, is Wolvering gonna have some
sort of equivalent? But it's like,

2179
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:13,720
I don't know. If the game's
more linear and smaller scale, then

2180
02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:16,640
I don't think you really need that. You know, he can wall climb

2181
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:18,960
and run, Yeah, he does. He doesn't like, he doesn't need

2182
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:22,279
like a motorbike. Like it's not
like we're being that big of a big

2183
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,479
or anything. There was no motorbike
in the leagues. There wasn't that.

2184
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,840
It looked like he was doing a
lot of grappling without a grapple like.

2185
02:08:30,199 --> 02:08:35,359
So one more spoiler question on Spider
Man two. Is it like obvious who

2186
02:08:35,399 --> 02:08:37,479
the villain could be the third one? You don't have to say who it

2187
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,319
is, but oh, is it
fairly obvious who you think the villain would

2188
02:08:39,319 --> 02:08:41,760
be of the third one? At
this point, I think it's obvious for

2189
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:46,960
who venom and third one is yes, okay, sounds good. Yeah,

2190
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:50,000
there's one very non obvious thing that
I'm excited for you to play because there's

2191
02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:52,680
an end credit. I was like, I was not expecting this, and

2192
02:08:52,720 --> 02:08:56,800
it adds to all just say is
it adds to the Spider Man online stuff

2193
02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:01,920
of having more options than just Peter
right and my Aisles and Venom. And

2194
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:05,159
it's not even character that you would
think, like when you played her here

2195
02:09:05,199 --> 02:09:09,119
you beg really, that's a character
they're bringing in. So there's some stuff

2196
02:09:09,159 --> 02:09:13,960
cooking over there. Interesting, man, I went, you know Black Friday

2197
02:09:13,199 --> 02:09:16,960
was happening. I was. I
was dangerously close to buying a PS five.

2198
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,720
I almost did it. The deals
kind of sucked though, That's why

2199
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:22,319
I didn't end up doing it.
It was just like you get Spider Man

2200
02:09:22,319 --> 02:09:24,239
for free essentially, I'm like,
well, these games go on sale for

2201
02:09:24,319 --> 02:09:26,560
like ten dollars in a few months, so like what, that's not a

2202
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:30,720
great deal. So I don't know. If the Spider Man two online thing

2203
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:33,600
is really really cool, then maybe
maybe that would be the time. But

2204
02:09:33,640 --> 02:09:37,399
I definitely thought like Wolverine will be
the thing pushed me over the edge.

2205
02:09:37,399 --> 02:09:39,640
But if that isn't happened till twenty
twenty six, then I have to imagine

2206
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:41,960
it'll be something else. That gets
me in the door first. And do

2207
02:09:43,039 --> 02:09:46,239
you think because there was something that
came a little bit beforehand, like there

2208
02:09:46,319 --> 02:09:48,199
was like the we had the leaks, and then there's a few things that

2209
02:09:48,239 --> 02:09:50,960
came up and the big thing happened, it kind of got overshadowed. But

2210
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,279
last week there was a rumor of
them working on like a Spider Verse type.

2211
02:09:54,279 --> 02:09:58,239
It gave me just like a game
with multiple Spider people. Do you

2212
02:09:58,279 --> 02:10:01,199
think that's just code for what the
online might have been now instead, like

2213
02:10:01,199 --> 02:10:05,439
they're not making a Spider Man and
Friends are making let's say, like you

2214
02:10:05,439 --> 02:10:07,640
said, Kostashushima, where it's that
you have your four or three types of

2215
02:10:09,199 --> 02:10:11,279
Samurai. You could be right or
Ninja, same thing, like you could

2216
02:10:11,279 --> 02:10:13,840
be Peter, you could be Miles, you could be Venom, you could

2217
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:18,800
be blank. You know. Yeah, I mean, I guess I could

2218
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:22,560
see that as being an integration into
I guess just either Spider Man three or

2219
02:10:22,119 --> 02:10:26,239
an online. I didn't see anything
about that one, so I don't really

2220
02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:28,720
have another infro on it. But
yeah, I think that that could be

2221
02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:31,000
a good because I don't know,
once again, in the way that you

2222
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:33,800
want to like keep reactioning up the
intensity or intrigu of these things, Like

2223
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:37,279
you gotta think Spider Man three is
gonna have some other new newbie in there.

2224
02:10:37,319 --> 02:10:39,600
So is that, Gwen? Is
that just a full on multiversal thing

2225
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:43,119
where you can bring in a couple
other characters or even just slight variations of

2226
02:10:43,159 --> 02:10:48,079
our characters now with like some like
half half step like move set differences.

2227
02:10:48,159 --> 02:10:50,359
You know, they have some of
some of these moves some of the other

2228
02:10:50,359 --> 02:10:54,000
ones something like that. I suppose
I see in the chat, he said,

2229
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:54,800
from what i've Okay, good,
He's gonna let us know, he

2230
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:58,000
said, from what I've seen the
leaks, it seems that there are two

2231
02:10:58,079 --> 02:11:01,359
different things. The Spider Verse online
game would be like a gt ON line

2232
02:11:01,439 --> 02:11:03,239
level online Okay, wait for him
to say the next week. So that

2233
02:11:03,279 --> 02:11:09,119
seems like the classic like Sony looking
for their live service game, like you

2234
02:11:09,159 --> 02:11:13,560
create your own Spider person. Oh
fuck, that's a man, you know

2235
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:18,600
the game the kids nowadays, we
have the lego games for those that kind

2236
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:22,119
of thing. Yes, but the
kids nowadays that they get their summer break

2237
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:26,119
and the games that they like.
We had great games, but I'm just

2238
02:11:26,119 --> 02:11:28,960
saying, like image right now having
those like you got two and a half

2239
02:11:28,119 --> 02:11:33,279
Marveling. That was good. I
know, but like you're telling me,

2240
02:11:33,319 --> 02:11:35,159
and if you're telling me, hey, Travis, there's a game that you,

2241
02:11:35,199 --> 02:11:39,520
in your own Spider Person created do
whatever you get two months off of

2242
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:43,680
school, have some fun like fuck
man, Like, I'm surprised you actually

2243
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:45,920
are that excited. I feel like
you're not a very like big into the

2244
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:48,359
character creator, like you like to
play established, especially for Marvel stuff.

2245
02:11:48,439 --> 02:11:52,079
I like it's like the Hunter Midnight
Zones. But I feel like, yeah,

2246
02:11:52,119 --> 02:11:54,560
really, you're not a big fan
of that country. But I like

2247
02:11:54,640 --> 02:11:56,840
it because we already have the Spider
Man game. If it was let's say

2248
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:01,279
we go back to twenty eighteen and
it's like I want to take you on

2249
02:12:01,399 --> 02:12:03,920
a roller coast and it's like,
oh, what's happening. It's like be

2250
02:12:03,119 --> 02:12:05,239
your own Spider person, Like,
ah, fuck this, I don't want

2251
02:12:05,279 --> 02:12:09,159
that. You try to name your
character Peter, and like blanks, you're

2252
02:12:09,199 --> 02:12:11,680
not allowed to make them Peter.
You can call them Parker Peter, but

2253
02:12:11,720 --> 02:12:13,920
not Peter Parker. Like if those
gay, like even right now, if

2254
02:12:13,920 --> 02:12:16,800
they said we did Spider Man two, were done with Spider Man, I'd

2255
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:20,880
be completely fine if those didn't exist, then i'd be bumped. But the

2256
02:12:20,920 --> 02:12:24,279
fact that I got two great Peter
Parker Miles games and then even the third

2257
02:12:24,279 --> 02:12:28,439
one, and then if I got
the create, that to me is something

2258
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:31,920
that's just that's mind blowing. I
did not see that, Like that's something

2259
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:37,239
I would sing way too many hours
into you fight World bosses together, like

2260
02:12:37,279 --> 02:12:41,399
a venomized Sam and right, I
saw that there was a venom that was

2261
02:12:41,439 --> 02:12:45,760
like Godzilla size and he was a
villain. Stuff like that. That's in

2262
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:48,720
the constant part. Villains choose Spider
Man archetypes from. Really, that's what

2263
02:12:48,760 --> 02:12:52,520
that was Spider Man Gwen two thousand
and nine. Nine. Oh my god.

2264
02:12:52,640 --> 02:12:56,960
Yeah, there's just turning honest,
not really speaking to me. I

2265
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:01,000
don't think that would be the Spider
Man game for me personally. You talk

2266
02:13:01,039 --> 02:13:03,479
about it now, you'd come in
for a little bit. I know you

2267
02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:07,960
would. It was free to play, sure, all downloaded. But I

2268
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:09,000
didn't even play Spider Man too.
What are you talking about? I'm not

2269
02:13:09,039 --> 02:13:13,359
I'm not a die hard over here. I yeah, I know, but

2270
02:13:13,399 --> 02:13:16,880
like I just I just feel like
if there's like a some sort of want

2271
02:13:16,960 --> 02:13:20,079
to create my own Spider Man,
I don't care about boys the thing that

2272
02:13:20,119 --> 02:13:22,800
would sell me. Venom should be
the thing that sells me over here.

2273
02:13:24,039 --> 02:13:26,279
Well, they're making a Venom game. They're gonna you're gonna get that.

2274
02:13:26,279 --> 02:13:28,600
I canna replay them in a game, but I you want more tho.

2275
02:13:30,159 --> 02:13:33,319
It's smart though, it's I don't
know you you'd make some fun characters,

2276
02:13:33,479 --> 02:13:39,560
you know, you make your fark
Fuckle Lombardi Spiderman version malcol Lombardi. I

2277
02:13:39,600 --> 02:13:43,319
don't know. Yeah, I don't
know, but I would love that.

2278
02:13:43,359 --> 02:13:45,239
At first we ever think it was
cancer, but now it seems like it

2279
02:13:45,279 --> 02:13:48,720
was never green that never has been
green light. Oh that's fine. Yeah,

2280
02:13:50,079 --> 02:13:52,439
I think we covered it all.
Uh yeah, I think so.

2281
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:56,399
Thank god kirkl and Taryror weren't here
because we're at two thirteen already and it's

2282
02:13:56,439 --> 02:13:58,960
just you and me, so there's
lots of talk about So I hope we

2283
02:14:00,079 --> 02:14:03,199
even cut topics too. There.
Yeah, I cut. I'm glad I

2284
02:14:03,239 --> 02:14:05,960
cut the trips, which we'll probably
talk about on the twenty twenty four week

2285
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,720
pre because lots of them coming on
look good. So yeah, I hope

2286
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:09,840
in the new year, when you're
like, oh, where's the news,

2287
02:14:11,079 --> 02:14:13,279
you get a nice juicy episode,
right, here almost two and a half

2288
02:14:13,319 --> 02:14:16,600
hours, and like I said,
we'll be back. We'll be talking about

2289
02:14:16,640 --> 02:14:20,479
other stuff, but usually January slows
down. But yeah, look out for

2290
02:14:20,119 --> 02:14:22,439
you know, there'll be an x
Men cast of some sort. We'll probably

2291
02:14:22,439 --> 02:14:24,960
be talking. Well maybe I'm not
sure when dyaling schedule that because Xtra ninety

2292
02:14:24,960 --> 02:14:28,039
sient, but you could double dip. You could do one for ninety seven

2293
02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:31,159
and then one for this. I
mean yeah, I mean, at the

2294
02:14:31,239 --> 02:14:33,439
very least, I I just wanted
to come out and you're ninety seven,

2295
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:35,800
so absolutely could record that whenever.
Throw it up on Patreon like three months

2296
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:39,359
early. You know, that's the
X Men animated so yeah, who knows,

2297
02:14:39,359 --> 02:14:43,199
it'll happen at some point. Yeah, so January there'll be slower movies,

2298
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:45,119
games, something like that. But
we got lots of good content.

2299
02:14:45,199 --> 02:14:48,039
So if we don't talk to you
in the news like sentiment, thank you

2300
02:14:48,159 --> 02:14:50,600
very much. Have a good holidays. If you got some time off,

2301
02:14:50,640 --> 02:14:52,600
spend time with your family, and
if not, just go go see Wonka.

2302
02:14:52,920 --> 02:14:56,439
If if you have no family,
you don't care about Christmas, Christmas

2303
02:14:56,479 --> 02:14:58,680
holily, go see Wonka twenty fifth. Maybe we'll bump into Taylor, Maybe

2304
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:01,439
we'll bump up into Dylan, let
them know your thoughts on it, you

2305
02:15:01,479 --> 02:15:09,159
know, So until next time,
I'll be boring. See uh damn