Hello, and welcome to the Dynasty Dude podcast. I'm your host, Corey
Evans. Thank you for checking out this week's show. It is titled Old
but Not Ready to Fold. Simple premise here. I think in general,
most of us collectively in the Dynasty landscape become a bit too focused on youth
as opposed to proven commodities or veterans that have done it year in, year
out, And this episode focuses on players that are not yet hitting that plateaua
cliff of full appreciation and value or a sunk costs. Could that happen in
twenty twenty four, Sure, it's possible. It's part of the risk reward
Teter Todter that you face when investing in older players. But I have five
names that if you're a contender, to think about acquiring right now before the
season begins, or if you're middle of the pack rebuilding on the flip side.
Conversely, you can try to sell them and gain draft capital or youth
based on the discussion points that I bring up. Quick shout out to both
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this week's bonus episode over on Patreon I'm doing a top one hundred, not
rankings, but assuming a ten team league. I'm going round by round and
picking ten players that I think are the best value in each round. So
rounds one through ten a fun exercise I think you'll all enjoy if you remember.
Over on the platform, all right, old but not ready to fold
up. First is DeAndre Hopkins. He turned thirty two in June, a
seventy five ten fifty seven seven receiving log for fourteen point min ex per catch
one hundred and thirty seven targets as the PPR wide out twenty two in fantasy
in his first season with Tennessee last year, Hopkins actually led the NFL in
targets of thirty nine that were twenty or more yards downfield in twenty twenty three.
To me, it's a sign that he still has gas in the tank
when it comes to that stretching the field. He's always been a possession wide
out, big play fifty to fifty my ball, the leverage in his wingspan
and route running. But the fact that he did indeed lead the NFL in
targets with thirty nine of twenty more yards downfield shows that he has not washed
what limited. Hopkins last season in terms of ceiling was a Titans offensive scheme,
as the team ranked thirtieth in past attempts. That figures a change with
new head coach Brian Callahan, as the former o seeds a Natti his exposure
to Jamar Chase, te Higgins, Tyler Boyd. The personnel usage bodes well
for DeAndre Hopkins and the entire Titans passing attack, even if it means there's
more competition for volume at wide receiver like Calvin Ridley, Tyler Boyd, Traylon
Burks, and then obviously at running back twenty powered and tala J. Spears.
In a sense, DeAndre Hopkins will thrive or slowly fade into fantasy relevancy
depending on how will Levis faces opposing defense as a sophomore, and if he
can fare better or worse than his rookie campaign, where he postes the stats
of one thousand asrian eight yards passing a touchdo for interceptions, seven point one
yards past attempt any, fifty eight point four percent completion rates, which was
in only nine games played a small stable size of data, it's safe to
assume Deandre's days of functioning as an elite fantasy wide receiver are behind him.
He was a wide out one, two, four, and four from twenty
seventeen to twenty twenty. Talk about a top tier stretch or dominant run returning
dividends as a wide receiver two three on that borderline, that's certainly possible as
his price fades into the second round of ring draft value. I don't know
anybody that's going to spend a first round pick on DeAndre in a one quarterback
league or let alone superflex. However, early to mid second that is more
realistic if you're contender looking to cash out while he still has a name,
recognition and perceived role with the Titans. Keep in mind that DeAndre is on
a contract year a UFA in twenty twenty five. Will Levis is the key
cog in the entire Titans passing attack, which will be led by Brian Callahan.
And I simply think that right now more people are out than in on
Hopkins, and that's a market opportunity to strike, since DeAndre showed no signs
of slowing down all that much in twenty twenty three. Cooper Cup is up
next. He turned thirty one in June. After Cup's career campaign in twenty
twenty one, a one forty five nineteen forty seven sixteen receiving effort one hundred
and ninety one targets thirteen point four yards per catch as the PPR wide receiver
one overall, their ability has since cost him over the past two years.
It was a seventy five, eight twelve and six long ninety eight targets ten
point eight yards per catch as a PPR OI receiver twenty three in twenty twenty
two only nine games played. In last year twenty twenty three, fifty nine,
seven, thirty seven and five on ninety five targets twelve and a half
yards per catch as the PPR wide out forty and only twelve games played,
so it was the outlier historic season for Cup In twenty twenty one and then
twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three have been major steps backward, more so
because of injury than on field efficiency or play. But then again, availability
is the best ability for any NFL player. Let's look at those injuries in
more depth. Twenty twenty two was an ankle sprain and then a high ankle
sprain that led to the dreaded tight rope surgery twenty twenty three was a hamstring
strain and then ankle sprain, so lower body injuries that eventually do take their
toll on aging veteran wide receivers with a short term or even longevity point of
view. In mind, Cup is under contriact to the twenty twenty seven with
the Rams possible out in twenty twenty five, but it be twenty two point
twenty six million dead cap. That'd be a large move for the Rams to
take a bit drastick in my mind. The downside of rostering Cup from here
on out is the emphasis Pukuinakua Kyle Williams will have for volume within Sean mcvay's
scheme, not to mention rookie Blake Korm receiving a lot of buzz to his
point so far. So the dilemma is what does it really take to trade
for or potentially sell Cup four? Depending on what spectrum you're on of dynasty
contention, I would say one quarterback or superflex being independent a late first or
early mid second translates to a fair window of capitalizing on Matthew staf effort two.
Cup. That rapport, that connection that's been oh so dominant for quite
some time. The baked in risk is the nine games played, the twelve
games played. We are no longer theoretically going to see the wide receiver one
overall season like Cup had in twenty twenty one. Like I said with DeAndre
Hopkins, those days are likely behind these Hall of Fame trajectory wide receivers.
What is worth mentioning is insight we don't always have we might assume during the
regular season. Is that Sean McVay indicated that this offseason Cooper Cup was never
fully healthy in twenty twenty three. He's now back to full capacity, and
that is a great sign that Cup is beyond what plagued him last year.
Comparing apples to apples, if you're looking to acquire a veteran receiver DeAndre Hopkins
Cooper Cup, I think that Cup offers a higher ceiling, but neither are
surefire wide receiver ones in redraft or dynasty. There is certainly more risk than
reward in rostering them. But then again, dynasty's a game of chances.
You play to win. You don't want to be too risk averse to where
you're not going to have enough upside to win a championship. What's nice about
the current cost of Cooper, Cup or even Hopkins is that there's equal room
for profit or loss at this stage of their NFL ten years, and you're
not going to have to overspend for players might be deemed on the wrong side
of thirty no longer advisable to trade for or roster. At some point,
the trade market becomes stale or dry for wide receivers at this age range,
and that's when I like to capitalize, assuming not contending. Of course,
different story if you have these players and you're looking to acquire youth in the
form of draft capital or talent in general, that is wide as episode caters
of both the rebuilding, middle of the pack or win now teams. Upnext
is Amari Cooper. He just turned thirty in June. His first two seasons
with Cleveland have been a success. Seventy eight eleven sixty nine, one hundred
and thirty two targets, fourteen point night rs per grab PPR wide out ten.
That was in twenty twenty two. Last year, in twenty twenty three,
he was the PPR wide Out twenty with a seventy two twelve fifty to
five log one hundred and twenty eight targets seventeen point four yards peract. So
so far, it has been quite a prolific start with the Browns organization.
Joe Flacco is a major reason behind Cooper's fantasy peel last season, the future
of Deshaun Watson's show. Their health is going to play a huge role in
Amari's rise or tomize in twenty twenty four in terms of value, as Flacco
is now in Indianapolis as Anthony Riginson's backup. It is worth noting though,
that when Deshaun Watson was healthy and active last season, he relied heavily in
Amari Cooper a twenty three point six percent target share and accounted for four to
three percent of his overall passing yard age to Cooper. To me, that
means when Watson is surveying the field reading progressions, Mark Cooper is more often
than not his first look, depending on defensive attention or coverage. Now,
as players age go from team to team, there is a mental fatigue that
takes place where you're tired of rostering them or you think they've reached their peak
in value. Then again, a Marii Cooper is mister consistent no matter the
team, he's on Raiders, Cowboys, Browns doesn't matter with at least one
thousand yards receiving in seven of his nine NFL caampaigns. Today, I will
repeat that because it is very impressive. At least a thousand yards receiving in
seven of his nine NFL season so far with three different teams. That is
hard to do, different schemes, different coaches, different quarterbacks. Amari Cooper
is an underrated talent in my mind, and I think the same can be
applied and redraft or dynasty. He's old, but he's not ready to fold.
And I think out of the other two wiolets I've discussed so far,
Hopkins and cup, Cooper comes with the longer shelf life and perhaps even less
risk is based on how reliable he's been in different environments and different factors of
variable is working for or against him. It's a contract year UFA in twenty
twenty five. We all know by now that MARII Cooper was not present.
He sat out of mandatory mini camp without an extension. He's been very clear
and upfront that he wants a new deal. It sounds like Cleveland wants to
keep amar A round for the future. Plans However, there's less urgency to
get a new contract done at the trader for Jerry Judy this offseason. Not
that Judy's going to usurpers of planning Marik Cooper. Cooper is, in a
sense playing hardball in negotiations. I don't blame him, after already accomplished his
first two campaigns with the organization at some point pushed him to shove to probably
a compromise of some sorts. Cooper is not going to reach the heights of
resetting the wide receiver market in terms of guaranteed money or even lifespan of a
contract, but he deserves to get paid rightfully so based on his career numbers
and recent statistics in terms of acquiring or trying to cash out on Cooper,
no matter the format, a late first is justifiable, even a mid first,
I would say, in some certain formats. If you're really wide receiver
needy in a single quarterback league and this year's loaded wide receiver quest still in
superflex, late first early second makes more sense for Mari Cooper. Time for
quick break be back with two more players that are old but not yet ready
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How about Raheem Mostert. He is aging, but he's still been oh soo
efficient. He turned thirty two in April. Anytime a running back is thirty
or north of thirty, you start to get a bit worried about durability,
let alone deficiency in overall rushing volume and just per touch consistency. Nonetheless,
Rahemoster enjoyed a late career breakout season in twenty twenty three with all around output
of two oh nine ten twelve eighteen touchdowns to the ground for four pointing arts
per clip and then twenty five for a bucks seventy five and three receiving touchdowns
on thirty two targets. As a whole, it made him the full point
ppr RB five, which is outright impressive for running back who was already thirty
one at the time. He is under contracts till twenty twenty six, is
a possible out in twenty twenty five for one million in dead caps, so
that could be exercised since it's feasible at some point or this time next year.
Yet at the same time, the extension he signed this offseason was worth
up the nine point one million, so yes, Moster is a huge part
of Miami's short term plans. Moster is also it's expensive to roster and dynasty
leagues Den Devon a Han and possibly even fourth Brown rookie Jalen Wrights out of
Tennessee, which makes Raheem a nice value once again for contenning teams. I
understand if you're sitting on the depreciating eventual talent that is Moster on a non
contenny team, that you want to just get out of situation before it's too
late. At that point, I would say a mid to eight second at
this juncture is fair for a buyer or seller when you're looking at the career
arc of Raheem Mosters. The overall Dolphin scheme is so fantasy for only because
of Mike McDaniel. He's a guru of creating space pre sat motion to put
players in a position to succeed based on your skill sets and more specifically speed.
The Dolphins are one of the fastest teams in all football. I think
it's more of a system than pure talent scheme. When it comes to running
backs, Rahem Moster had a long NFL career still is playing, of course,
but there are teams in between, like the forty nine Ers and the
Bears that he didn't do much with. It's a great scheme fit for his
explosive home run hitting ability, whereas devon aih Shan can do the same thing.
I think Jalen Wright could as well, so as long as most of
it is healthy, he is probably going to be the one A in Miami's
running back rotation and is the best bet for volume and touchdowns, even if
Devon A. Shan's overall stealing is probably higher based on his per touch efficiency.
But heem Moster should not cost you much more in the second could be
two thirds if you need a RB two or an RB three running back death
In general, don't overlook raheem Moster in twenty twenty four and then last button
not least Aaron Rodgers will be forty one December. It's hard to believe,
but true. Twenty twenty three was unfortunate for Rogers. He threw one past
at ten before turns. Achilles and his Jets debut campaign, however, displayed
consistent their ability from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two. As a recent sample
size of health with Green Bay annual game played totals of sixteen, sixteen,
sixteen sixteen, and seventeen over that span of time. An Achilles tear is
a fluke. Look at Kirk Cousins. You can't predict it. It is
basically where your feet are at the time of impact or a maneuver to your
right or left could happen to anyone, any position, anywhere on the field.
So don't write off Rogers because of an achilles tear. What's working against
him is the age, the recovery timeframe. But he was possibly ready to
come back last year. The Jets ready to compete. That just shows that
Rogers should be Awesome's go come week one. He's in her contract till twenty
twenty six. And if you follow Rogers his press conferences and gets his dialogue
over the offseason, he's been pretty vocal about playing beyond that timeline, which
could mean that if the Jets are attending, Rogers wants to be a part
of this for potentially longer than one or two more years. You have Garrett
Wilson, Breese Hall, Mike Williams, Malachai Corley, Tyler, Conklin,
David Gibson. That's a strong supporting cast once again, being available is what
is going to make or break Rogers from here on out. It should go
well for Aaron and the entire Jets team. That the offensive line was a
focal point, it was upgraded a priority this offseason. You have Tyron Smith,
John Simpson, Morgan Moses, Rookie Olu Fashanu. Quite honestly, anything
is an improvement. Because the Jets allowed the fourth most sacks in the league
last year. It was sixty four, which meant that Aaron Rodgers had no
time. Zach Wilson the quarterback carouse was a disaster, and Aaron Rodgers doesn't
need a lot of time. He's just so proficient when it comes to making
quick passes on out routes, threading the needle in tight windows. Nobody's going
to question Aaron Rodgers in his arm the Achilles heel pun intended? Is his
health. In a one quarterback league, I would say back end quarterback one
or an ideal backup your quarterback two, streamable based on matchup. In super
flex, I'd be okay with Rogers as my quarterback two or my quarterback three
or a plug and playing based on matchup, or have him in case of
emergency with a bye week or an injury ahead of my quarterback one or quarterback
two. But Aaron Rodgers, again is someone that most people have become fatigued
with just because he's been around so long, and there's a sour taste or
perception based on what could have been. All the hype with Hard Knocks,
the media focused in on what the Jets could have accomplished in twenty twenty three.
That is in the past. You have to wipe your memory clean.
Slate twenty twenty four. The supporting cast is ideal and Rogers is old but
not yet ready to fold. Hope you all enjoyed that episode. Quick recap
of those five older players that I am okay investing in or if you want
to sell, attempt to do so. The price points are recommended. Those
were DeAndre Hopkins, Cooper Cup, Amari Cooper, Rihem Mostert, and Aaron
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