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Hello, and welcome to the Dynasty
Dude podcast. I'm your host, Corey

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Evans. Thank you for checking out
this week's show. It is titled Old

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but Not Ready to Fold. Simple
premise here. I think in general,

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most of us collectively in the Dynasty
landscape become a bit too focused on youth

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as opposed to proven commodities or veterans
that have done it year in, year

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out, And this episode focuses on
players that are not yet hitting that plateaua

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cliff of full appreciation and value or
a sunk costs. Could that happen in

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twenty twenty four, Sure, it's
possible. It's part of the risk reward

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Teter Todter that you face when investing
in older players. But I have five

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names that if you're a contender,
to think about acquiring right now before the

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season begins, or if you're middle
of the pack rebuilding on the flip side.

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Conversely, you can try to sell
them and gain draft capital or youth

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based on the discussion points that I
bring up. Quick shout out to both

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Darryl and Justin who joined Patreon this
past week. You support means a ton

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this week's bonus episode over on Patreon
I'm doing a top one hundred, not

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rankings, but assuming a ten team
league. I'm going round by round and

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picking ten players that I think are
the best value in each round. So

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rounds one through ten a fun exercise
I think you'll all enjoy if you remember.

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Over on the platform, all right, old but not ready to fold

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up. First is DeAndre Hopkins.
He turned thirty two in June, a

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seventy five ten fifty seven seven receiving
log for fourteen point min ex per catch

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one hundred and thirty seven targets as
the PPR wide out twenty two in fantasy

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in his first season with Tennessee last
year, Hopkins actually led the NFL in

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targets of thirty nine that were twenty
or more yards downfield in twenty twenty three.

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To me, it's a sign that
he still has gas in the tank

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when it comes to that stretching the
field. He's always been a possession wide

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out, big play fifty to fifty
my ball, the leverage in his wingspan

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and route running. But the fact
that he did indeed lead the NFL in

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targets with thirty nine of twenty more
yards downfield shows that he has not washed

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what limited. Hopkins last season in
terms of ceiling was a Titans offensive scheme,

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as the team ranked thirtieth in past
attempts. That figures a change with

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new head coach Brian Callahan, as
the former o seeds a Natti his exposure

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to Jamar Chase, te Higgins,
Tyler Boyd. The personnel usage bodes well

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for DeAndre Hopkins and the entire Titans
passing attack, even if it means there's

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more competition for volume at wide receiver
like Calvin Ridley, Tyler Boyd, Traylon

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Burks, and then obviously at running
back twenty powered and tala J. Spears.

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In a sense, DeAndre Hopkins will
thrive or slowly fade into fantasy relevancy

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depending on how will Levis faces opposing
defense as a sophomore, and if he

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can fare better or worse than his
rookie campaign, where he postes the stats

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of one thousand asrian eight yards passing
a touchdo for interceptions, seven point one

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yards past attempt any, fifty eight
point four percent completion rates, which was

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in only nine games played a small
stable size of data, it's safe to

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assume Deandre's days of functioning as an
elite fantasy wide receiver are behind him.

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He was a wide out one,
two, four, and four from twenty

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seventeen to twenty twenty. Talk about
a top tier stretch or dominant run returning

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dividends as a wide receiver two three
on that borderline, that's certainly possible as

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his price fades into the second round
of ring draft value. I don't know

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anybody that's going to spend a first
round pick on DeAndre in a one quarterback

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league or let alone superflex. However, early to mid second that is more

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realistic if you're contender looking to cash
out while he still has a name,

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recognition and perceived role with the Titans. Keep in mind that DeAndre is on

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a contract year a UFA in twenty
twenty five. Will Levis is the key

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cog in the entire Titans passing attack, which will be led by Brian Callahan.

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And I simply think that right now
more people are out than in on

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Hopkins, and that's a market opportunity
to strike, since DeAndre showed no signs

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of slowing down all that much in
twenty twenty three. Cooper Cup is up

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next. He turned thirty one in
June. After Cup's career campaign in twenty

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twenty one, a one forty five
nineteen forty seven sixteen receiving effort one hundred

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and ninety one targets thirteen point four
yards per catch as the PPR wide receiver

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one overall, their ability has since
cost him over the past two years.

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It was a seventy five, eight
twelve and six long ninety eight targets ten

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point eight yards per catch as a
PPR OI receiver twenty three in twenty twenty

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two only nine games played. In
last year twenty twenty three, fifty nine,

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seven, thirty seven and five on
ninety five targets twelve and a half

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yards per catch as the PPR wide
out forty and only twelve games played,

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so it was the outlier historic season
for Cup In twenty twenty one and then

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twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three
have been major steps backward, more so

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because of injury than on field efficiency
or play. But then again, availability

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is the best ability for any NFL
player. Let's look at those injuries in

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more depth. Twenty twenty two was
an ankle sprain and then a high ankle

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sprain that led to the dreaded tight
rope surgery twenty twenty three was a hamstring

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strain and then ankle sprain, so
lower body injuries that eventually do take their

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toll on aging veteran wide receivers with
a short term or even longevity point of

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view. In mind, Cup is
under contriact to the twenty twenty seven with

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the Rams possible out in twenty twenty
five, but it be twenty two point

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twenty six million dead cap. That'd
be a large move for the Rams to

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take a bit drastick in my mind. The downside of rostering Cup from here

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on out is the emphasis Pukuinakua Kyle
Williams will have for volume within Sean mcvay's

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scheme, not to mention rookie Blake
Korm receiving a lot of buzz to his

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point so far. So the dilemma
is what does it really take to trade

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for or potentially sell Cup four?
Depending on what spectrum you're on of dynasty

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contention, I would say one quarterback
or superflex being independent a late first or

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early mid second translates to a fair
window of capitalizing on Matthew staf effort two.

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Cup. That rapport, that connection
that's been oh so dominant for quite

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some time. The baked in risk
is the nine games played, the twelve

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games played. We are no longer
theoretically going to see the wide receiver one

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overall season like Cup had in twenty
twenty one. Like I said with DeAndre

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Hopkins, those days are likely behind
these Hall of Fame trajectory wide receivers.

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What is worth mentioning is insight we
don't always have we might assume during the

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regular season. Is that Sean McVay
indicated that this offseason Cooper Cup was never

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fully healthy in twenty twenty three.
He's now back to full capacity, and

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that is a great sign that Cup
is beyond what plagued him last year.

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Comparing apples to apples, if you're
looking to acquire a veteran receiver DeAndre Hopkins

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Cooper Cup, I think that Cup
offers a higher ceiling, but neither are

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surefire wide receiver ones in redraft or
dynasty. There is certainly more risk than

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reward in rostering them. But then
again, dynasty's a game of chances.

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You play to win. You don't
want to be too risk averse to where

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you're not going to have enough upside
to win a championship. What's nice about

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the current cost of Cooper, Cup
or even Hopkins is that there's equal room

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for profit or loss at this stage
of their NFL ten years, and you're

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not going to have to overspend for
players might be deemed on the wrong side

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of thirty no longer advisable to trade
for or roster. At some point,

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the trade market becomes stale or dry
for wide receivers at this age range,

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and that's when I like to capitalize, assuming not contending. Of course,

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different story if you have these players
and you're looking to acquire youth in the

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form of draft capital or talent in
general, that is wide as episode caters

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of both the rebuilding, middle of
the pack or win now teams. Upnext

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is Amari Cooper. He just turned
thirty in June. His first two seasons

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with Cleveland have been a success.
Seventy eight eleven sixty nine, one hundred

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and thirty two targets, fourteen point
night rs per grab PPR wide out ten.

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That was in twenty twenty two.
Last year, in twenty twenty three,

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he was the PPR wide Out twenty
with a seventy two twelve fifty to

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five log one hundred and twenty eight
targets seventeen point four yards peract. So

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so far, it has been quite
a prolific start with the Browns organization.

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Joe Flacco is a major reason behind
Cooper's fantasy peel last season, the future

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of Deshaun Watson's show. Their health
is going to play a huge role in

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Amari's rise or tomize in twenty twenty
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is now in Indianapolis as Anthony Riginson's
backup. It is worth noting though,

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that when Deshaun Watson was healthy and
active last season, he relied heavily in

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Amari Cooper a twenty three point six
percent target share and accounted for four to

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three percent of his overall passing yard
age to Cooper. To me, that

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means when Watson is surveying the field
reading progressions, Mark Cooper is more often

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than not his first look, depending
on defensive attention or coverage. Now,

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as players age go from team to
team, there is a mental fatigue that

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takes place where you're tired of rostering
them or you think they've reached their peak

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in value. Then again, a
Marii Cooper is mister consistent no matter the

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team, he's on Raiders, Cowboys, Browns doesn't matter with at least one

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thousand yards receiving in seven of his
nine NFL caampaigns. Today, I will

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repeat that because it is very impressive. At least a thousand yards receiving in

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seven of his nine NFL season so
far with three different teams. That is

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hard to do, different schemes,
different coaches, different quarterbacks. Amari Cooper

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is an underrated talent in my mind, and I think the same can be

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applied and redraft or dynasty. He's
old, but he's not ready to fold.

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And I think out of the other
two wiolets I've discussed so far,

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Hopkins and cup, Cooper comes with
the longer shelf life and perhaps even less

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risk is based on how reliable he's
been in different environments and different factors of

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variable is working for or against him. It's a contract year UFA in twenty

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twenty five. We all know by
now that MARII Cooper was not present.

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He sat out of mandatory mini camp
without an extension. He's been very clear

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and upfront that he wants a new
deal. It sounds like Cleveland wants to

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keep amar A round for the future. Plans However, there's less urgency to

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get a new contract done at the
trader for Jerry Judy this offseason. Not

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that Judy's going to usurpers of planning
Marik Cooper. Cooper is, in a

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sense playing hardball in negotiations. I
don't blame him, after already accomplished his

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first two campaigns with the organization at
some point pushed him to shove to probably

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a compromise of some sorts. Cooper
is not going to reach the heights of

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resetting the wide receiver market in terms
of guaranteed money or even lifespan of a

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contract, but he deserves to get
paid rightfully so based on his career numbers

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and recent statistics in terms of acquiring
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no matter the format, a late
first is justifiable, even a mid first,

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I would say, in some certain
formats. If you're really wide receiver

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needy in a single quarterback league and
this year's loaded wide receiver quest still in

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superflex, late first early second makes
more sense for Mari Cooper. Time for

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quick break be back with two more
players that are old but not yet ready

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How about Raheem Mostert. He is
aging, but he's still been oh soo

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efficient. He turned thirty two in
April. Anytime a running back is thirty

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or north of thirty, you start
to get a bit worried about durability,

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let alone deficiency in overall rushing volume
and just per touch consistency. Nonetheless,

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Rahemoster enjoyed a late career breakout season
in twenty twenty three with all around output

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of two oh nine ten twelve eighteen
touchdowns to the ground for four pointing arts

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per clip and then twenty five for
a bucks seventy five and three receiving touchdowns

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on thirty two targets. As a
whole, it made him the full point

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ppr RB five, which is outright
impressive for running back who was already thirty

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one at the time. He is
under contracts till twenty twenty six, is

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a possible out in twenty twenty five
for one million in dead caps, so

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that could be exercised since it's feasible
at some point or this time next year.

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Yet at the same time, the
extension he signed this offseason was worth

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up the nine point one million,
so yes, Moster is a huge part

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of Miami's short term plans. Moster
is also it's expensive to roster and dynasty

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leagues Den Devon a Han and possibly
even fourth Brown rookie Jalen Wrights out of

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Tennessee, which makes Raheem a nice
value once again for contenning teams. I

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understand if you're sitting on the depreciating
eventual talent that is Moster on a non

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contenny team, that you want to
just get out of situation before it's too

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late. At that point, I
would say a mid to eight second at

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this juncture is fair for a buyer
or seller when you're looking at the career

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arc of Raheem Mosters. The overall
Dolphin scheme is so fantasy for only because

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of Mike McDaniel. He's a guru
of creating space pre sat motion to put

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players in a position to succeed based
on your skill sets and more specifically speed.

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The Dolphins are one of the fastest
teams in all football. I think

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it's more of a system than pure
talent scheme. When it comes to running

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backs, Rahem Moster had a long
NFL career still is playing, of course,

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but there are teams in between,
like the forty nine Ers and the

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Bears that he didn't do much with. It's a great scheme fit for his

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explosive home run hitting ability, whereas
devon aih Shan can do the same thing.

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I think Jalen Wright could as well, so as long as most of

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it is healthy, he is probably
going to be the one A in Miami's

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running back rotation and is the best
bet for volume and touchdowns, even if

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Devon A. Shan's overall stealing is
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But heem Moster should not cost you
much more in the second could be

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two thirds if you need a RB
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In general, don't overlook raheem Moster
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not least Aaron Rodgers will be forty
one December. It's hard to believe,

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but true. Twenty twenty three was
unfortunate for Rogers. He threw one past

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at ten before turns. Achilles and
his Jets debut campaign, however, displayed

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consistent their ability from twenty eighteen to
twenty twenty two. As a recent sample

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size of health with Green Bay annual
game played totals of sixteen, sixteen,

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sixteen sixteen, and seventeen over that
span of time. An Achilles tear is

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a fluke. Look at Kirk Cousins. You can't predict it. It is

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basically where your feet are at the
time of impact or a maneuver to your

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right or left could happen to anyone, any position, anywhere on the field.

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So don't write off Rogers because of
an achilles tear. What's working against

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him is the age, the recovery
timeframe. But he was possibly ready to

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come back last year. The Jets
ready to compete. That just shows that

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Rogers should be Awesome's go come week
one. He's in her contract till twenty

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twenty six. And if you follow
Rogers his press conferences and gets his dialogue

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over the offseason, he's been pretty
vocal about playing beyond that timeline, which

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could mean that if the Jets are
attending, Rogers wants to be a part

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of this for potentially longer than one
or two more years. You have Garrett

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Wilson, Breese Hall, Mike Williams, Malachai Corley, Tyler, Conklin,

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David Gibson. That's a strong supporting
cast once again, being available is what

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is going to make or break Rogers
from here on out. It should go

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well for Aaron and the entire Jets
team. That the offensive line was a

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focal point, it was upgraded a
priority this offseason. You have Tyron Smith,

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John Simpson, Morgan Moses, Rookie
Olu Fashanu. Quite honestly, anything

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is an improvement. Because the Jets
allowed the fourth most sacks in the league

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last year. It was sixty four, which meant that Aaron Rodgers had no

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time. Zach Wilson the quarterback carouse
was a disaster, and Aaron Rodgers doesn't

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need a lot of time. He's
just so proficient when it comes to making

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quick passes on out routes, threading
the needle in tight windows. Nobody's going

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to question Aaron Rodgers in his arm
the Achilles heel pun intended? Is his

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health. In a one quarterback league, I would say back end quarterback one

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or an ideal backup your quarterback two, streamable based on matchup. In super

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flex, I'd be okay with Rogers
as my quarterback two or my quarterback three

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or a plug and playing based on
matchup, or have him in case of

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emergency with a bye week or an
injury ahead of my quarterback one or quarterback

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two. But Aaron Rodgers, again
is someone that most people have become fatigued

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with just because he's been around so
long, and there's a sour taste or

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perception based on what could have been. All the hype with Hard Knocks,

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the media focused in on what the
Jets could have accomplished in twenty twenty three.

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That is in the past. You
have to wipe your memory clean.

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Slate twenty twenty four. The supporting
cast is ideal and Rogers is old but

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not yet ready to fold. Hope
you all enjoyed that episode. Quick recap

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of those five older players that I
am okay investing in or if you want

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to sell, attempt to do so. The price points are recommended. Those

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were DeAndre Hopkins, Cooper Cup,
Amari Cooper, Rihem Mostert, and Aaron

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Rodgers. Thank you all for listening. If you enjoyed this week's show,

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do that each and every time I
see one. Thank you again until next

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time. This is the Dynosa you're
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