There's such a level of entitlement here, but that's so indicative of our culture.
Now. It's like, I'm entitled to this. It's unfair. I
should have this, I should have that. They should be paying for this.
They are required to do this for me. It's like, actually,
no, they're not required to do crap. Welcome to another deep dive edition
of the Chicks on the Right podcast. I'm pretty stoked about today's topic because
you can't excited. I know, I don't really know why, but like,
I don't know, it just sort of came out of nowhere. There
seems to be a lot of stories right now happening about air travel, and
so we thought we should break down all of these stories. A couple different
angles that we need to hit on when it comes to air travel, and
like the inconveniences and just like the weird stuff that happens on planes. Right,
do you like flying? Do you hate it? Oh? My god,
I hate it with the fury of a billion suns. Did you used
to like it? I've never liked being on an aircraft. No, I
hate it too, I absolutely hate it. I don't have like a fear
of flying, but I have a discomfort with it. It's just like a
total discomfort and inconvenience, and I don't feel entirely safe on them. And
I just have never liked flying it all much. Try to go on a
road trip much rather could be in a car. Yeah, and I don't
like driving either, So I just don't like the process of getting from one
place to another, right, But I very much like being other places.
That's the problem. You just want to teleport. That's which I would love
to teleport. Shouldn't it be great? It's coming. Elon Musk is going
to invent that sometimes soon get on the sticks. It's not like he's not
It's not like he's busy, right, I mean, only is like six
other things going on. But he'll eventually get there. We'll get there.
Just give it like five. You're great, because I am also one of
those people that does really, really poorly at any kind of turbulence. I
get very very worried and upset and nervous and terrified, especially now that,
like, you know, twelve year olds are flying our planes, right,
I mean, it's just it's not like solely is flying every single plane.
Now. It's like you look at the pilot and you're like, you're like
my kids age, right, And I am very uncomfortable with that. I
don't like that at all. So yeah, I'm just not I don't like
being on planes, I don't like flying. I don't like any of it.
I just would I'd just rather stay in my house all the time.
Well, and it's like the older you get, the more of a homebody
you become. Right, Yeah, I totally get it. Well, So
one of the stories that we wanted to talk about today is the fact that
there is a fairly popular I mean, not hugely popular. She doesn't have
millions of followers that I'm aware of, but there's a TikToker who is who
has some popularity, like one hundred thousand plus people that follow this very very
oversized person. And I guess like most of her account is all about flying
wild fat and so she has all these tips about how she does that and
you know what airlines are more a combinating than others and all of this stuff.
And so apparently she said for a long time that she buys to see
because she's I would say, how much do you think she weighs, like
six hundred pounds, five hundred, six hundred pounds I can't even venture a
guess. I don't know, like beyond like two hundred and fifty three hundred
pounds. It's hard for me to even guess on that. After you become
you know, when you're past a certain weight, I can't. It's to
me, it's that's just math, and I can't do that. I just
can't. Like it's like for me, it's like guessing how many jelly beans
are in a jar. Oh, I'm terrible like those I can't. I'm
like one of those people where I'm like, I'm out. I can't guess
that. So I can't guess how much you weigh after your past like a
certain I don't have a concept of that and I can't do that in my
brain. I just look at you and I'm like, you're morbidly obese.
That's like all I can say is and that's not mean for me to say.
I mean she is technically morbidly obese. Oh yeah, I mean I
think, well, she describes herself as plus size. But there's plenty of
overweight people, like morbidly over overweight people who say that they are fat,
Like they call themselves fat. It's just that's what they know. Plus size
is like a size twenty. She's she's not a size twenty, she's a
six X. I heard her say, well, I don't even know.
I didn't know that that was an actual person size, but that right,
I did think that that exactly. No, that's not I don't think that's
plus size. Well I guess that's like plus plus plus size. That's like
multiply size, right, Like, it's not plus at this point. Now
you're like a you're to the power of kind of plus size. Yeah,
yeah, exactly. And I think everybody of average size. And I'm not
talking like thin or you know, rail thin or anything, but just average
size. If you just look at like the average size of the population,
average sized people. If you're sitting on a plane, you're already seated,
and you see a six hundred pound ish person coming down the aisle and you
have an empty seat next to you, everyone braces themselves like everyone is hoping,
oh my god, please don't let that person have to sit next to
me, because you then don't have your own seat. You then are dealing
with someone who's absolutely spilling onto you. Yeah, that person's not sitting next
to you anywhere. That person is sitting on you. Yes, exactly,
and that's not okay. So now this, this woman is now saying she
started a petition, a change dot org petition demanding that air air lines start
just giving an additional two or an additional seat or two to obese travelers like
herself for free. So she says, I'm fine buying a ticket, but
like, because of my gigantic size, I should get a second and even
possibly third seat for free. No okay, So then do skinny people get
a break on their ticket? She doesn't address that. She also doesn't address
like super tall people who are are super uncomfortable because they mean kills. The
thing that kills me about this is that there are a lot of people who
have signed her petitions. Oh, let's look at it. I think travel
and why I think every plus size traveler should get a free second and even
third seat on an airplane. Then you better keep watching and sign my petition
to make some real change. Let's just state fast. Plus size travelers need
more space, and many people agree that plane seats are too small even for
the advergeised person. As a plus size traveler myself, I know how uncomfortable
and unsafe it can be disqueezed into a tiny airplane seat. We are not
asking for special treatment or luxury accommodations. We simply want enough space to travel
comfortably and safely without fear of being discriminated against because of our sives. It's
truly that simple. If you agree that every traveler deserves to fly comfortably and
without fear of discrimination, then go ahead and please sign my petition and share
it with everybody that you know. Let's work together to make air travel more
inclusive and accommodating for everyone. There's that word inclusive, right, inclusivity.
It's all about inclusivity and like hurting her feelings or making sure that she feels
welcome on the plane because she hasn't taken personal responsibility herself, right, right,
So she feels like she needs two extra seats for free? Okay,
so for free? Yeah, okay, Well that doesn't that's not fair.
That's not fair to the people who are not plus size. And I'm putting
that in air quotes, right because I mean, what about the people who
are not her size that have to pay for that seat? Okay? So
what about somebody who is what about my daughter? Say, my daughter is
you know, like when she was eleven twelve or she's not thirteen, and
she's pretty small, you know, she doesn't take up as much of the
seat requires her to take up. So can I pay a discounted fare for
her because she I have to pay for a whole seat for her? What
about when she was what about when she was a toddler and I had to
pay for a whole seat for her to sit there and she's really occupying like
what a third of it? Right when she was eighteen months old, I
had to buy a whole seat for her. She didn't take up the whole
seat. Sometimes she sat on my lap when we were taking a flight someplace.
So why is it that I had to buy a whole seat for her?
I should get a discounted rate on the fact that she was tiny,
you know, I mean, are we going to start doing this because this
is the thing. It's the same notion, it's the same idea. She
was smaller, so I should have to I should be able to pay a
discounted rate for the size of her body if this is what we're going to
start doing now. The petition was seventy She wanted seventy five hundred signatures she
was already at like sixty five hundred as of the taping of this broadcast.
Yeah, people are on board with this well. And I did see some
of the comments of the people that signed on to the petition where some of
them were like, I'm signing this petition because I think in general, all
plane seats are too small, and we've been getting the screws by the airline
industry, and so they should make every seat a little bit bigger because now
everything is so uncomfortable. But I mean, there's a cost to all of
this. Do we really want there is to get airline travel more expensive than
it already is, because that's what the result will be. You are absolutely
one hundred and fifty percent correct on that. I don't know because what you
wanted, they're gonna have to make new planes with these bigger seats. You
don't think that the cost is going to actually get passed down to the consumer,
right, You're an idiot. Or they fly fewer people. I mean,
that's what ends up happening. If they did change all the seats,
they fly fewer people. So I how this wasn't a problem until now.
You notice, how like when you know in the seventies and eighties. In
the nineties, no one really, no one really bitched about this, like
I feel like, and part of that has to do with we've gotten fatter
and fatter and fatter. We just have I mean, that's just something to
think about too. That's just one prong of this. If you look at
like what a fat person was considered even fifty sixty years ago, let alone
a hundred years ago in this country, it was a lot different. Like
the fattest person in the country or the fattest person in the world was a
lot different than the fat person now totally, you know what I mean.
Well, and now because of the body positivity nonsense, Now it's all glorified,
right, So now everything is like we should celebrate the giganticness of this
person, right And then you've seen that show, like the show where they
do the bariatric surgery on the super super super fat people. Yeah, so
what's so that made me wonder? Like with her petition, I mean,
she's obviously a person who gets around. Now she also posts videos of herself
using the scooters at grocery stores, so she's obviously not comfortable walking for long
periods. But she presumably can still get herself to the airport or whatever.
What about the people who are bedridden because of their weight? Are they now
are going Are they going to expect airlines to send them like a crane to
pick them up so that they can fly? Because where does this stop?
Where do all these accommodations stop? M Yeah, I don't know. That's
a great question, it's a really great question. Or send them transportation to
pick them up to in front because they can't do it themselves. Yeah,
yeah, I mean it's crazy, like and it's there's such a level of
entitlement here, but that's so indicative of our culture now. It's like I'm
entitled to this. It's unfair. I should have this. I should have
that. They should be paying for this. They are required to do this
for me. Yeah, it's like, actually, no, they're not required
to do crap. They're a company that provides a service if you can get
if you can get the service yourself, then you know, you pay for
that service. And if you can't deal, you can't deal, Like if
you cannot fit into that seat, then you don't pay for that service,
or you pay Dealok, that you pay for the seat that you need the
two seats that you need, amen. I mean that's the way I look
at it too, But so many people see it differently. They're like,
no, that that particular company that's providing the service needs to change for me.
Actually they don't. They don't need to do that, right, I
mean they really don't. They don't have to change the entire aircraft for you.
They don't have to do that. If you don't fit in that seat,
you don't fit in that seat. And if you need to fit into
two seats, you pay for two seats, yeah, or figure out another
way to travel. Right, there's also card a cruise ship. There's plenty
of name on those, right. I don't see why this is so difficult,
but it's it is a different mentality now than it used to be.
Total and it's me, me, me, entitlement, entitlement, entitlement.
Well, and there's another big story about airline travel that caused the Internet to
explode earlier this week, and that is because there is a Toronto Blue Jays
player, a baseball player named Anthony Bass, who got absolutely everyone all up
in arms about a debate regarding his twenty two week pregnant wife who is apparently
also it's a high risk pregnancy. I don't know why, but it is
considered for whatever reason, to be a high risk pregnancy. His wife was
traveling alone on a plane with her five year old and two year old,
and during the flight, the apparently, and this was a piece of the
story that I didn't know until after I read about all the hullabaloo, but
the flight attendants were passing around popcorn and as their snack or whatever. And
so the woman, the wife of this baseball player, got popcorn for her
kids, and the two year old, presumably the two year old, absolutely
got popcorn everywhere, all over the floor, of around her seat, in
her seat, all over the place. So at the end of the flight,
the flight attendants told the mom, you need to pick up after your
kid and the player. This Anthony guy absolutely lost his mind on Twitter,
took a picture that his wife obviously sent to him of the kids of the
mess underneath the seat and said, the flight attendant at United just made my
twenty two week pregnant wife traveling with a five year old and a two year
old get on her hands and knees to pick up the popcorn mess by my
youngest daughter. Are you kidding me? And it got to the point where
where he tweeted later that the United folks had responded to him and they were
taking care of this flight attendant internally, they were whatever, you know,
performance appraising her or performer remanding her. So she got in trouble. Yeah,
flight attendant got in trouble for it. Yeah. Okay. So because
the Internet massively divided, there's the there's the camp of people who are like,
of course you should pick up after your own kids, and then there's
the other camp who are like, you pay airlines for a cleaning fee and
it's not insignificant, and so they are expected to clean up after you.
Much like when you go to a movie theater and spill popcorn, it's not
you cleaning it up, it's the people that work in the theater. I
have mixed feelings about it. I do too. I'm mixed about it because
I do because you do play pay for that, you pay for a cleaning
fee, you do, and you've seen them do that. And then there's
a part of me that's like, okay, if they asked me to clean
up and I was in a high risk pregnancy and I didn't feel comfortable getting
If I didn't feel comfortable doing that, why does she do it? I
don't know. I don't know. Why does she get on her hands?
You know, she felt bad, so she did it, and then she
bitched her husband, right, it's like that is also a problem. And
then she bitched her sister, who is Jesse James Decker, which I don't
even know who that was until who happens to be an influence and like and
a country singer who I'm sorry, I don't listen to her music. You
guys probably may know who she is, but she's also very influential, and
so she's tweeting all about it and like, oh my god, they made
my sister do this. Well, I mean, your sister could have said
no, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to get on
my hands and needs to do this. I'm going to high risk pregnancy.
Why can't women do that? Why can't women just say no, right,
I'm not going to get on my hands and knees just because you told me
to do that. I pay for a cleaning fee, you do it.
I have I'm five months pregnant. I don't want to and you know,
my kids with me even you know the popcorn, right, I'm not going
to So no, I'm not going to do it. What are you gonna
do? Arrest me? Like, screw you. I'm not going to do
it. Seriously, I mean, what what is the worst thing that could
happen if she said no? If she felt uncomfortable with it to the point
where she's bitching to her husband and vision to her sister and like texting everybody
about this, obviously she was upset about it. Yeah, why couldn't she
just say no? You know? So that was the first thing that that
kind of annoyed me about that, And then the second thing is it's like,
okay, well, I mean there's a part where you just kind of
like, I don't know, lean over or kind of it clean. Yeah,
there's I feel like there's some sense of personal responsibility with cleaning up after
your kids, like even in a restaurant. I do that with with my
at least I used to when you know, my youngest was a little bit
younger, and if she made a mess on the table, I'd even like
kind of wipe up. I always felt bad, like for servers and stuff.
I'm like, oh my god, my family's freaking you know. You
know I always felt I always felt like because you know, some people feel
that way, and there's been discussion about that too lately. I've seen it.
Where is it your responsibility to clean up a table or is it the
server's responsibility to clean up the table? Well, I mean I do feel
like they come around and they wipe down the table and everything, but I
always stack the dishes, I put like the silverware on top. I kind
of wipe it down a little bit with like a napkin or because I always
feel some sense of personal responsibility of cleaning up my space, because it's like
if I'm being a slob or my family's being a slob, it's just me
being a mom, yeah, and watching out for my server, not being
a jerk. Like there's some semblance of you have to have some manners,
Yeah, have some manners. You know, these are your kids. It's
your responsibility to clean up a little bit after your children. So there's that
part of me too, Yeah, And I mean there's so many odd weird
things about the story to begin with, Like it's hard for me to fathom
that a flight attendant actually told a passenger to do that in the first place,
like, that's just unheard of. You don't hear anybody saying, don't
you leave this plane until you clean up your mess. Yeah, it's just
not a thing that you've ever heard. So maybe it was just such a
surprise to hear a flight attendant say that that she was kind of stunned into
submission and then angry about it. I can see that, But I can
also see that she could have possibly de escalated the whole thing by saying,
I am so sorry about the mess. I didn't realize you guys were going
to hand out popcorn. But I'm pregnant and I've got two kids to wrangle.
I'm not going to be able to pick that up. I'm sorry,
and I'm yeah, I'm not getting on my hands and knees on a disgusting
plane floor and I'm not going to do that because gross. I'm just not
doing it. And if you want me to clean it up, you can
give me some sort of a broom or something to do that, and I'll
wait till everybody's off the aircraft. But I'm not doing it right now.
Now, You're not going to crawl on the floor to do it, right
I mean, I mean this is the thing. It's like, I just
I probably would have been like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.
That's gross. I'm going to get some sort of nasty disease on this,
like crawling around on the floor. I'm not doing it gross. So
I have this. Yeah, the whole story is just really weird. But
there is some subbling again with the personal responsibility. There is something to be
said. I get it. Two year olds are going to throw crap,
They're gonna they're gonna make messes. Why do you give it out popcorn?
Yeah, that's just a yeah, especially to a toddler, like what are
you doing? Just what do you stop? What are you? What are
you doing? Yeah, the whole thing is just crazy. So now how
do you feel about because and this also always causes you know, camps.
Like there's two very different kinds of people. There's the people who pay for
an airplane seat that reclines, as they all do. And if it's all
a longish trip and they want to recline the seat the like two inches or
maybe one inch that it reclines, by golly, they're gonna do it,
regardless of how uncomfortable it may make the person behind them. And then there
are the people who are like, it is absolutely against all forms of etiquette
to ever recline the seat, even though it does recline. So where are
you where do you fall? Well? I always fly and coach and those
seats recline like one inch, So I just don't see how it inconvenience.
Is anybody the inch of reclination that they do. It's just so insignificant that
I'm just like, why is anybody pissed off about any of this? And
what does it matter if you recline It doesn't even make you more comfortable,
So why why does anybody get mad about it? What is the point of
them even reclining because they give you no more comfort. It's all in your
brain. If you're more comfortable reclining like one inch, then I'm sorry.
You may think that you're more comfortable, but that's all in your head.
Congratulations on feeling more comfortable, but you're not more comfortable. It's not it's
not. And then when the flight attendants go around, they're like, you're
gonna have to like have your seat go up. I'm like, oh,
okay, because you're going to crash the plane because of that one inch.
Okay, I understood for you. I'm just I always roll my eyes.
I'm like, okay, because what would happen if the plane started with every
seat reclined? Like, is it gonna is it somehow less safe at takeoff
and landing because it's back a little bit. I just have never understood that
it is literally their their method of control. I'm like, okay, you
want to make sure you have control over me, I'll go ahead and like
forward my seat that one inch, Okay, lady. It's just it's so
dumb. It's just that it's all that plane crab that I just kind of
shake my head and I go, my god, this is like so stupid.
Yeah, so stupid. Well, and then the other big thing that
people argue about is the overhead. Do you because I listen, I wish
they would just do away with it. I don't think there should be overhead
compartments. I think everybody should check luggage and you can bring your purse or
your backpack and put it on your right there with you, because you are
wasting everybody's time. I hate hate it, okay, In fact, I
hate it so much, especially the last time I flew. There was a
woman next to me, who was She goes, I'm going to miss my
flight because of this shit. Yeah, because of because there are people who,
like, you know, we're in the middle of the plane, probably
like right around where the wings are. And I was waiting with her,
and I felt so terrible for her because she, I mean, she had
to just wait for all these morons. You had to get all their stuff
off the overhead and there's you know, women and these beta males who can't
get these giant things out of the over overhead and they're waiting for like strong
women to get the stuff that they had other strong women, if they had
strong women put up there for them, because they're too woosy to put it
up themselves. And it's like and they can't get them down, so other
people are having to get it down for them. It's like you're sitting there
for fifteen minutes to get off the plane because they have all the stuff in
the overhight compartment. And she's like, I'm going to miss my flight because
of this crap. And I just felt terrible for her, because she's right,
it like holds up a plane. You should be able to get off
the plane when you land. It drives me crazy. I never put crap
up there. I always check. I always shame my luggage. And in
fact, I think instead of having to pay a fee for check luggage,
you should pay a fee for for the overhead been and maybe agree with you,
like, start to deincentivize people from using it, because man, it
does slow everything down and it's just I hate it as it doesn't fit.
And then they bring it on and they end up having to take it with
like they take it and check it anyway because they're like, oh I thought
it was I thought it was small. Seriously, like that thing is bigger
than my thirteen year old for crying out loud, they played they play stupid
and they're like, oh I thought it was small. No it's not.
You know it wasn't. You're gonna have to check it anyway. You're a
jerk and said that. I just these people. I'm so mad. I
hate the overhead. I hate the overhead comment the same. Well, I
have a feeling that you know what the surprise video is that I'm gonna show.
I don't. You don't I don't cause you said you said a word
from it that I was like, oh, she knows, so I don't.
I asked Vellen to share a video that we did back in our radio
days when we decided. I don't know why, but there was that big
story years ago about that kid who made a clock bomb. Do you remember
that he made a bass and it looked like a bomb and it freaked everybody
out and he was known as like clockboy or whatever, and there were all
these press conferences about it, and so we decided to hold a press conference.
And for my whatever reason, the press conference that we held was about
the reclination. The reclination and you said that earlier, so I thought,
oh, she knows, So I thought I have to dig that out since
we're talking about airline travel. I got to dig that out because it includes
clips from Louis c. K one of his most famous clips about air travel
with just the Miracle of Flight, and then also Ellen DeGeneres making fun of
how little seats actually recline. Yes, And then it's us pretending to hold
a big press conference about it, because we were like, if everybody can
have press conferences, why can't we We're going to want to we did,
and so I thought this would be the perfect way to close out today's show.
I cannot wait to see it. Oh my gosh, Okay, here
we go, here we go. So we decided to have our own press
conference about rage in the sky. There's rage in the sky and it's over
the reclining of seats. Why are people choking other people about this? Can
they not see how ridiculous? Flying is the worst one because people come back
from flights and they tell you their story and it's like a horror story.
It's they act like their flight was like a cattle car in the forties in
Germany. That's how bad they make it sound, right, like it was
the worst day of my life. First of all, we didn't board for
twenty minutes, and then we get on the plane and they made us sit
there on the runway for forty minutes. We had to sit there. Oh
really, what happened next? Did you fly through the air incredibly like a
bird? Did you partake in the miracle of human flight? You nine contributing
zero that you got to fly? You're flying, It's amazing. Everybody on
every plane should just constantly be going, oh my god, wow, yes,
your flight. You're sitting in a chair in the sky. Yes,
yeah, And can people not see just how tiny the reclination is. This
is me trying to relax on the plane. This is upright recline. See
the difference there. Uncomfortable, comfortable. Stop at people, stop choking each
other over the reclamation. And those concludes our very important press conference. We're
not we're not taking any questions. No, no, no question no,
not that kind of press. No questions today, We're not no questions.
This is no question. Oh my god, good time. Look how young
gods eight years ago, long ago, so young god. I need a
better cream. I need to like start applying more I cream. Get out
your sign man, get it out. I gotta get it out. I
get to like double up on the Jenie cell. Damn. Anyway, we
did have a very nice review this week. Thank you to those people who
have taken the time to leave a five star review and whatever comment you want
to leave, even if it's a hateful one. In fact, we enjoy
those quite a bit. So if you hate the show, feel free to
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She loves the main one. G you guys, she gets off on that.
Yeah, I do so me. Dad one five eight said, great
podcast. Love listening to you ladies every morning. Thanks for the news and
the laughs. So that was very so sweet. Thank you, Yeah,
so sweet. Well, you know what, I'll still fly, but against
my will. Like we're flying, we're flying in a week together. In
fact, there won't be a deep dive next week because of that, so
we should point that out now that there will not be a deep dive the
week of however, that week is Apri and I plan on getting my one
inch of reclamation. I'll turn with you so that no one gets mad at
you. There you go. So we'll be doing that together, you guys,
and save travels to everybody. And I guess two weeks from today we'll
be doing another deep dive. Until then, have a wonderful two weeks