Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to a geek first review. I'm
the clown Prince of Monkeys dress now, and I'm joined by a monkey boy
competzer. Yes, leads, gentleman, it is I don't know we we
I think one originals. We have to do like a naming. It's been
nine years. We have to name all the pairings. You know, we
don't have that. Man, what game? Parents? What are you talking
about? I don't know why my cameras stop my cams, but a fucking
asshole day Oh, I can't remember what Mario game it was, if it
was tennis or a card I think it was like like with all the pairings
of the four like what is a Dylan Kirkland pairing? Name? What's a
Taylor like? You know Taylor and traspairing. You're I don't know what you're
talking about for the Mario game though, like there's I swear it was like
a Mario tennis thing or something like you'd put them together and they'd have they
would auto generate, not every time, but if Luigi together. It was
this sort of name. All my film was here because you'd probably know,
even though I was very surprised Dyan had never played Sunset Riders. Have you
played Sunset Riders? Never heard of it? No, God damn it.
No one's played this game. They don't go look up Sunset Riders. But
what you can do first is sea Monkey Man or don't see monkey Man?
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we never released those and those are some of the some of the best,
some of the favorites. So we gotta we gotta get that man back
at some point. But today is all about the man dev Paateel, director,
actor, writer, producer. He's doing it at all, but did
it work out? So as usual, we're gonna give our nonsports thoughts.
So if you're not seen the movie, if you're on the fence, hey,
I don't know, it's his first time. Maybe you're not a Deptel
fam maybe not action fan, whatever, maybe we will give you our thoughts
on if you should wait for streaming or maybe go out there and support a
movie, you know, do whatever. But we'll take a break and then
spoys, mister Patzer, what did you think of a monkey Man here?
Monkey Man here? Yeah? I going into it, I was pretty blind.
I didn't want I didn't want to too much like I had seen the
one trailer. So it was kick ass action and that was about it.
And I I absolutely love this movie. I thought it was so fantastic.
I thought it was a really interesting way of like revealing the story and the
motivation for our character on why he's doing his task. It's not just shown
at you like an event at the beginning of the movie, like like it
is kind of spliced throughout, and I think that was really really creative.
We like, we like that type of thing here. That's what I was
gonna say to you as a fellow. You know, you're known for your
your your directing style of playing with time and chronologic quarters of things. I
was gonna ask how you were liking this. I was very happy our movie
came out first because you would have been I've said this before, I can't
wait for a second movie to come out, but I guarantee you I'm gonna
be so annoyed. People are gonna just accuse us of like stealing stuff from
Saltburn, And legitimately, we filmed that movie first, and there is especially
as I'm starting to edit it now, I'm like, fuck, there's like
there's things that are like beat for beat the same as Saltburn. But I'm
like, we filmed this first, So yeah, I was. I was
a fan of the the nonlinear like telling the story and everything. I think
there was one portion in the middle that went maybe too long once again to
spoilers and not not like super long. I was like, okay, I
didn't know if we need like the exact full scene, but it still is
working for me. So what are those cards that are called for like capturing
the scenes, you know, like act one, scene two, and then
title cards. That's why we need those, and you can put the dates
so that people can't call us out for all this did come out before Selt
Burner, Well, I think I still yeah, I guess not in camera,
but on the actual footage it is carbon dated a screenshot in the credits,
like don't you know we didn't do this if anything Dead Patel took from
us, you know, hey, exactly, But no. I thought that
was a really really interesting and cool way to tell the story and and unravel
it in I don't know, just like a well paced manner. That way
it kind of keeps the interest on the viewer of like what is going on
here and like really like who are these people and why do they connect?
I thought that was really really fun. So like all that was really good.
I think dev Paateel is just absolutely fantastic. I've really just been liking
more and more and everything that I've seen him in Green Knight, I feel
like that's the most relevant one, don't you dare stand where he stood?
I'm still bitter about gold Geeks. I think we did nominate him, so
I'll give him that. Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen he's the
one from some Dog Millionaire, right, yeah, some dog Millionaire. I
feel like there's a bunch of stuff he's been in, but I feel like
I'm drawing a blank on maybe some more roles or something, but no,
but for this to be him starring as well as directing is just what,
like what an achievement? Man Like that this movie was? How many moving
parts there are. I'm just so shocked on how people can be in the
movie and direct at the same time, and how they can just have all
these things in their mind that they're wanting to piece together while they're making the
film. It blows my mind anytime that happens, but especially on like an
action movie like this, where he is doing like all these fight choreography.
He's the one that's looking shredded and just kicking ass. And getting his kicked,
and yeah, all of that was really fantastic. I think the the
fact that he's like the monkey Man and like kicking everyone's ass. I do
like how, for the most part, it still feels like a really like
I don't know, like personable if that's even a word, or like grounded
type protagonist where he doesn't feel like he is a mortal at like maybe near
the end he's really popping off, but I feel like he still feels like
just like a human guy. And there's many instances that it seems like maybe
he has like one enemy down and out, but maybe he's like a little
bit shaky on the trigger because he is still like a human and he has
these like little holdbacks on him taking a life like I saw hired a sass
and like exactly exactly like I do like how that is a factor in a
lot of I don't know how some of the combat goes for him or just
how some of these things happen, because I feel like there's some moments where
you know, if he is a little bit tighter on the trigger early on
the movie, it's like, oh wow, he would have just gotten rid
of this person early on, But I do like how how it was all
tackled in that sense, and uh yeah, I thought this was just a
really fun ride. I think the score and the soundtrack was just like next
level. I cannot wait to find this the soundtrack out here. They had
some some classic songs that I feel like they kind of can't wait to find
it out here. What does that mean. I haven't looked into it yet.
It's it's probably out there by it. It sound like he's going to
the vinyl stores, like, oh you got the Monkey Man soundtrack yet,
Okay, I'll be back next week. Can't wait for these cities to get
shipped over here the local wal mart, damn it. They had some like
classic songs in here with like tweaked a little bit or like a like a
really cool mix, and in certain scenes that I felt like we're just uplifting,
like all of these all of these scenes that are already really good.
Yeah, no, I echo similar sentiments. I absolutely loved it for me.
I it's funny because like it's weird when I say, like I don't
it's not like I don't like action movies. It's just like they're not I
don't know, it's it's a strange thing to say, because I do like
action movies, but I think I've always liked movies that have action in them,
Like I'm not the biggest like lethal Weapon guy or like any any of
that genre of the eighties and nineties of just this is just an action movie
and it's cool, dude, unless it was Arnold and even like Bruce Willis
like, it's not my stuff. It's like die Hard, where like I
really love that first Diehard, but I don't go back to it all the
time. Right, It's like, oh, I'm gonna watch it here where
I know there's two that that's my father in law, that's his genre.
He's watching Olympus's Fall like anytime I'm over. Like it's those type of movies
where for me, it's like I need a good hook and this, to
me has it. That's what I love is this? It is the plot
wise is a simple revenge movie, but it's the style and the soul that
make it stand out. This movie all like feels like it's alive all the
time, which sounds kind of weird, but just like every frame is moving
in a different way. Now this sounds like I'm hyperbolic praising it, and
I think I am a bit, but sometimes some frames and some action sequences
remind me of Spider Verse, where it's just there's things going on, but
there's so much going on at the same time, and it's so impressive for
this only ten million dollar budget. For me, it looks great. And
that's what you were saying about that there's tons of new directors like Jordan Peel,
and I'm drawing a blank on other ones that were you know, or
Krasinsky, right, And that's actually a bad example because he's the same.
But the Krasinsky versus Peel thing, there's tons of people that have been in
Hollywood for a while and they become a director and it's great and they have
like a great first film and everything, and it's outstanding. I'm not taking
the work away from them, but with like Patel, even Krazinsky and Krasinsky,
we're seeing like the second movie and if he's not in there, I
can't. We've been there a few times where we don't have a crew when
we directed our scenes, and that's tough enough where it's like you're focused on
directing, blocking all this stuff and then also acting. And this guy starts
like he's in nine. I could probably say ninety five percent of this movie.
Like there's some scenes without him, but it's it's all him. It's
not like an ensemble. It's not like, oh, it's him and then
following another main bad guy. It's like a two hnderd. No, it's
him. So just like like you said, kudos to him for he's directing,
but then also he's in this so much so especially too, it's like
with it being a smaller crew and budget, it's not like he's walking onto
like a Marvel film where I guarane you everything's being taken care of right this
that like he probably had to do so much so much. I'm really off
centered right now. I don't know why. There must be an earthquake.
Yeah you go to the rabble left, but no, I thought this was
to me with that heart and soul had so much more what I want for
a revenge film. Now there's stuff like John Wick where I like that and
that is more action, but that's because the action is so top tier and
just so crazy. That's where I go, Okay, this is where I
like that, or Fast and Fierce, where it's like this is so dumb.
That's why I like this right or some of the characters. This is
definitely trying to be John Wick at times, and it doesn't meant that exact
or meet that exact style as far as how crisp it is. But what
it lacks for in those and what I'm saying lacks for it doesn't mean it's
lacking. It's like, hey, you're not as good as a basketball player
as Lebron James. It's like that type of thing, right, Whereas I'm
not saying like, oh it's so loo tear, She's like, Okay,
Definitely the action there is crisper, But where this one I think makes up
is just I feel like you feel a lot of dead Patel in here,
whether there's political stuff going on here, where there's certain choices of characters that
are in here. Uh, there's a moment in the middle where there's like
something you'd never seen in a scene a John Wick or many others where it's
like super trippy dream sequencing, like how we transition to a flashback. That's
not stuff you do in action. That's like an A twenty four thing,
right, And that's what I appreciate where most action movies don't do that and
I feel like what you're talking about with dev being human it happens at times,
but so many times it's like John Wick cev Celli ohs, you know,
are like they have to be the badass, all powerful, stopping,
like you can't have a moment to have these characters weak. And I mean
not in the week of the sense of oh we got shot like dead Patel
multiple times this movie has panic attacks. He doesn't know if he can really
go through with these things. He's having visions to why, like his origin
ar And that's what I think I lean towards more as far as I said,
if it is pure action, it has to be like a John Wick
where it's like, Okay, this is top tier. That's why I absolutely
love this and hoestly, I think Keona also helps so that too, because
he has like a certain vibe where it's like, Okay, just have a
good time with Keanu. But like I said, where it's not the all
time massive epic action, which I think there are parts of it that have
that, it counteracts with the character and the emotion that it brings. And
yeah, I have like minor cons, but it's one of those of like
I don't know what. I've been going back and forth with my final score
because it's like the highs are so high that the cons. I definitely have
some cons as far as like there's a few characters that I don't think need
to be in this. There's a few choices where I go, I don't
really understand why we did this. Like I said, there's a portion in
the middle where I really like the transition, but I thought we were maybe
there for a little too long. But there's nothing massive, there's nothing major,
and with this being Deptel's first movie, it's like, man, Austin's
been around and I looked actually like he was in like he was in Skin
and like some dung millionaires his big breakout. But he's only started in twenty
six things or been in twenty six movies, which is crazy. He started
acting in Let's see Yeah two thousand and eight, and I just felt like
he was in a lot more. But that's why we can't name much because
like he's only been in twenty six things in projects. So this is very
exciting for me to see what he's going to do next. I just think
it's kind of like a statement film of Okay, this is a guy you
have to watch, and I feel like, now it's like whatever genre he
makes, it's gonna be really interesting. Oh man, monkey Man's out to
get me, It's gonna be really interesting. So yeah, this was a
top marks all round. This is like definitely behind Dune is my second fav
of the film of the year. Now there's not been many, but still
it's a It was fantastic. It's just not your regular just action revenge thriller.
It uses that, but then it evolves on that. So yeah,
absolutely, I like you're saying, like, I do have some mine cons
that you know, we'll get into and spoiler stuff, but they're like they're
just so I think, I think irrelevant compared to like how high some of
those highs are, Like I just kind of forget about them sometimes. So
one thing I will say that I did notice in here, and I didn't
know what the budget was, it makes sense that it is such a low
budget for the fact that they do have a lot of shaky cam in this
movie, like a lot of shaky cam. I feel like most of the
action is shaky cam where you can't really discern all of like, you know,
the tight choreography that's going on, or like specific hand to hand combat
things, and that's definitely something that obviously John Wick just excels at, is
like the clean Chris choreography. There is really good fight choreography in here.
But I understand that they kind of either made a creative choice to use that
or maybe it's like a way to kind of hide some of some of that
action and chaosk going on. I can't see what's going on there. I
just heard noises and then you're just frozen. Yeah, I wasn't at that
fucking but yeah, like I like, a lot of shaky cam can annoy
me quite a bit, but for some reason, this one really did never
get to me. Like I made note of it that there was a lot
of shaky cam going on. But I think because either the combination of just
like the awesome soundtrack going on or the action that you know, you can
see, like it does look really good. And I think your comparison of
Multiverse or not Multiverse Spider Verse isn't too far off in the sense of,
like it is a lot of chaos going on in these scenes and a lot
of moving parts and a lot of people scrapping and whatnot. And I think
for the reason for that reason, the shaky cam it just it also kind
of makes sense, like like it is as if there's just monkeys rating a
village or something and it's just like chaos. So yeah, but like I
definitely want to make note of that because I don't know like Dylan, I
don't know how he would feel about this movie if that there's there's aspects that
he would absolutely love, but he isn't a hater of shaky cam, and
this movie has a lot of it. So I am curious, you know,
if it comes down to I'm sure I would nominate those for Golden Geeks
if he hasn't seen it by that point, but I know he does show
some interest there. But I'm curious to hear his thoughts because of just I
think the relevance of shaky caim in this movie. I know he never told
us about anything in shaky Cam with our movie, so I wasn't sure if
it was a good use or he just was being nice big guy. You
know, I can't say anything, but I definitely agree with you there is
I guess for me because I usually I'm fifty to fifty on shaky cam,
Like I feel like I used to really hate it, and I guess it
just depends. And I think because this felt more personal and it was smaller,
I guess I didn't have much of an issue with it really. It
just it kind of fit the world. But there is a lot of it,
so I'd have to see almost on a second watch, but it didn't
bug me. My thing that I was pissed of Ball was I was at
the cineplex and the speakers just sucked, and I just felt like that sucks
really quiet at times. So I'm excited to see either it again or even
at home, because it felt like the speakers even there, like my home
speakers are better now. I'm sure they're not, but just like the way
this was tuned the movie, it was like, uh but yeah, I
could see that because I've heard that from other people. I guess for me,
it just didn't bug me as much just because it's kind of the world
setting. It just it felt smaller. But I definite can see somebody yeah,
having those issues, So totally anything else Before we get in spoilers here,
let's hop on in all right, So if you're not seeing the movie
also, we both recommend it, so go go see it, Go check
it out, go support it. It's only ten million dollar budget. We
want to get more stuff like this, So yeah, definitely go out there.
If you're picking, go uh go spend a couple shillings on it,
you know. So to you first sabreak bear right back and we're back.
I wanted to mention I was gonna mention Nonswis that it might be too much,
but I love the best comparison. Now it does happen the next scene,
and like you said, there's multiple scenes with the music, but the
first time in the finale, when he shows back up to the whatever the
restaurant, he goes in that room and he has that for his fight scene
with everybody. That's where I loved like the score was playing, but it's
not like a high octane action. It's like a very calm and it feels
like he's like Zen in this moment he's kicking ass. And that's where I
was like, Okay, this why, this is why I like this more
than a lot of other actions, because the majority of these are gonna have
like d like, it's gonna have something really cool and it works right,
like that's what you do. But I love that. It was this very
calm and peaceful score while he is shoving bottles into people's throats, like you
know, like all this stuff. And that's why I like where It's like,
okay, this this feels very different. It feels again like there's a
distinct vision you can see from Dev like from like, okay, this is
my mind. Want to get it there, and you do get that,
you get bits where there is like action heavy score. But I love that.
And I don't know why he wore the mask to get there because he
had I know I was, I really was assuming he was gonna be wearing
it for like the entire ending fight scene. I guess it was nice.
You can see Dev Patel, you know, in those moments. But yeah,
he just shows up to the restaurant where the hell they are and then
pops the mask off throws it in the gutter. I'm like, that's it.
That's that's all we go with the mask, and like it seemed like
he was doing some sort of ritual ritualistic like cleaning of it too. Before
that moment he's like dunking in the water. I'm like, oh my god,
this is crazy. It's like his Batman mask well, and it's it's
funny because like I thought, oh, even then they're gonna use it to
he's gonna sneak in. But he really didn't, you know, he just
he just like walked through the street. Because this was what was so funny
where he puts on the monkey mask and he said he washes it and everything,
and then I thought, oh, he's gonna have sneak and he goes
through the streets and then he goes right up to the door. There's two
guards there. He just takes a mask off kicks the shit of them.
So it's like, I guess he didn't need to sneak in. I had
the same thought earlier in the movie where I don't know what baramda I would,
but I just feel like if somebody clearly the guy that killed his mother
is a bad guy, right, so I'm sure he's killed a lot of
people's mothers. Doesn't remember faces. But Dev tells character which what was his
character's name? It's just kid looked up. I thought he had a name,
but itpparently we thought he did too. But anyway, so kid or
monkey man, I don't gonna called monkey man. I'm not calling kid.
You know. So I don't know, because I'm not a bad person,
but I would just assume if someone had tried to kill me a couple of
days ago, I would probably distinctly remember them. Now it's still a large
crowd. But the same thing with the monkey mask, I had that same
thought when the kind of bad rule or whatever. I'm not sure what do
they call what would be their name in that country? I don't know if
they're a present or yeah, I don't know what the hierarchy of that,
right, but it was it was like baba shock t Yeah, so let's
just say it's that country is equivalent of a present prime ministers. And he's
given this big speech and that bad cop there that killed the Betel's mom or
bad sergeants you know, a couple of feet from him, and they're speaking
this big crowd. It is a big crowd, but dead Betel is only
like in the third row and everybody else is kind of listening. Dead Betel's
just just staring there like he's gonna murder him. So that's another thing where
it's like, Okay, I guess people just don't recognize them at all.
And finally, again that's actually not a con. I just got a kind
of a laugh where they did the mask, and I'm not sure if it
was like, oh, this will look great in the trailer, because I
feel like we only watched the one trailer and talked about so I don't know.
So, uh, that was funny, but I personally we've talked about
this a couple of times. I can't remember when I talked about this.
Uh oh, just untress told you. I'm happy the mask was off because
like, you can have Somesk action, but I'd rather have dev Pateel,
which I also forgot to mention, Like you said, I I feel like
I've not given dev Pateel enough credit. And he's done a lot of other
great things, but between this and Green Night, like he's he's on my
list of like the top tier actors right now. And I wouldn't have said
no before, but I think now like he directly, directly is coming into
my mind like, oh he is like best of the best right now.
He belongs in those categories when we talk about Adam Driver or things like that,
right. So yeah, And on the topic of the mask, I
I liked the usage of it in the boxing ring. I like thee Yeah,
it did get it did get seen. It's not like it was completely
irrelevant in this movie. So the fact that it was there, I feel
like it helps at the end that we do just have dev badel and again
to defend it. Like maybe it's because he is like a wanted terrorist and
there's like people looking for him on the streets, so he wears his mask.
I don't know how much more incognito that is. I feel like that's
also more questionable that the monkey man mask just walking down the street. But
well, at least the ending, there was like a party where other people
or there's like a celebration where other people wearing masks. Right, yeah,
don't the other days because yeah, because actually I think he might be in
the clear though, right because he tries to kill the sergeant. I guess
he does go to that rally, so that was kind of a like I
said, kind of a mistake. But then he just spends his his days
at that house for the for the people that are you know, different,
Yeah, they out cast people, and then he's there for a while and
then he makes the big plan. So I guess he's not on the streets
probably too much. Luckily he's hanging out. So yeah, for sure,
where do you want to go in the beginning? I don't know. No,
Yeah, what did you think of the because he talked about the setup,
so I think we kind of figured us on the trailer. But the
setup is his mother and a bunch of other people. But clearly for him,
his mother has been killed. We get that a little bit. Again,
That's something that for me, I don't know if I needed the whole
scene. That's something I need to think about on a rewatch, because I
thought they'd given us enough to understand. And I'm not saying this scene was
like heart to watch. I just thought that I don't know if we need
the whole scene of his mom getting killed everything like that, because I felt
like the flashbacks were pretty clear. But that's okay, they still did it.
But yeah, she gets killed and he's on pretty much a whole life
mission to eventually get back to this guy. And then what do we get
because he does things like he's still someone's purse, and then he works his
way up. There's a few convenient things and everything, But what do you
think about his story of motivations? Honestly, motivations the usual out for revenge.
So that's you know, classic tale. Yeah, as we were,
as we were already saying earlier, I love the way that it was kind
of spiced throughout. He would see something and then it would just like flames
and then and then and then go back to like the real world. I'm
like, what is going on there? Like, obviously there's some trauma here,
but how come when he looks at this individual or sees this trigger that
or sorry, this thing that triggers a former memory. So I did like
how that was done, and I I did really like seeing actually the whole
the whole vision later on takes the narcotic drug thing, whatever it is,
because I don't know it's it. It's just leaving it. It's just putting
it right there, like and it is very graphic and intense, like the
scene because it's not just a quick kill like he slaps the ship out of
her with the belt and then lights are on fire, like yeah, it
it is really just raw and terrible. So I I think seeing that,
especially the zoom and shots of him as a kid like looking through the floorboards,
like it definitely is just uh, I don't know it. It leaves
it leaves a scar there, and I thought it. I thought it was
well done. So all the lead up to like the full the full length
scene of that flashback, I did like and for his whole motivation. This
is like something I was a little bit confused on in the beginning because it
almost seemed like he was like this underground like like king or something, where
like all these people are kind of working for him. At least that's how
I got it when he was getting the purse, at least, because it's
like, yeah, because this one person gets it and then they like passed
it along to like thirty other people and then they like give it to the
one guy. I'm like, oh wow, like the monkey man, he's
like this underground like badass, you know, criminal or something. But it
just seemed like maybe he just paid the right people or knew how to get
his hands on that, because from that point on he is just like a
solo guy. So I was a little bit confused on how that was working.
But like that's a really minor con It's mostly nitpicking because I don't really
need those answers on why, like like who did he pay to get that
you know, handbake to him? Like I don't really need that in the
large scale of what this movie is. And I just liked all the little
plays that he was doing. I did like how at the start of the
movie, it's not like him explaining to us about how he's trying to get
revenge, like like his mission has already been going on obviously since he survived
that horror, horrific incident. So yeah, I liked how we just kind
of jumped in in the middle of his revenge tale and we get to see
the end of it. So yeah, it was really really well done.
And just seeing again like doubling down on what I was saying earlier, he
isn't this like super assassin guy, Like he does make mistake. He's really
smart and obviously he's been planning this out for a long time, but but
like still he kind of slips up here and there, whether it's not being
able to take out you know, the cop, like right away, like
he has him deads to rights in like locked in the bathroom, gun right
up to his face, and he's still just like shaky and can't quite do
it. This one person that should be like, you know, the most
easy kill of your life, because like they just took everything from you murdered
your mom right in front of you, Like it's still that just like humanism
to him, like he's still is hesitant in that moment. I liked how
that was done. So Yeah, I big, big fan of Revenge Tales,
and I thought this was fantastic. Yeah, and I'd have to watch
too, because now I feel I might be missing a major point of it
because that's a great example of Yeah, he has this whole thing which I
actually thought he was gonna just kill him right there because he gets he steals
a wall, it gets to a work I don't know. She runs a
multiple multitude of businesses, right, and they all some are legit, some
are shady. Queen queen. Yeah. So and then he meets Alfonso,
who he is part of like a brothel esque type of club sort of deal,
like there's things, lots of drugs going on. I thought he had
taken him out because they have these little cylinders that they're handing around for cocaine.
I thought that was it because I wasn't like, don't call me dumb.
I guess I thought if you snored bleach, it would be over for
anxiety. I thought I was like Oh, what a clever way. And
it's so was fun with the scene because he gets this guy the Rana,
the cop that Rana is his name, at least that's what I think is
how Rna sing. Yeah, so so if you like, so he gets
him the cylinder because he becomes a waiter. He just slowly works his way
up, so becomes a waiter, this kind of you know, brothel club,
drug club, whatever it may be, all for criminals or crooked characters.
And he replaces the cocaineo bleach, snorts, his nose starts bleeding.
He goes in the washroom and yeah, like you said, any other movie.
Not any other, but majority of these type of movies, that's like
an easy kill part right where it's like, okay, you can do that.
Something else comes up. He's pretty nervous the whole time. There is
someone else in the bathroom, which we had a good but terrible scene of
just little details of the gun ends up in the toilet and it is a
toilet that has seen some stuff going on. Drop them. Yeah, not
good. But he reaches in there and goes for it. But the thing
I'm missing, and that's I don't know if you can recall because I saw
this two days go down, so I don't remember as much as I'll look
up because I'll do the rewatch. Does he kill anybody after that? It
does not kill people until the finale, because I know he escapes. But
that's why I was wondering, Uh, I think he kills people in that
scene? No, because that that other guy in the bathroom is he's like
attacking dev and in those moments, and I'm pretty sure when Rana and him
are fighting for the gun, the other guy's like running at him and then
he points and shoots at that guy. So Okay, I'm assuming he died
from his injuries. Maybe maybe not, but I definitely think he took took
some people out like he You know, the body count was definitely racking up
by the end of this movie. For sure, he was the only one
murdering people. But no, he definitely killed a lot. Is that m
I hurt a little bit for me of him not being able to pull the
trigger as quick on the Rana guy because you just feel like, hey,
this guy killed your mom, and if you can kill these other people that
you don't know pretty effortlessly, I get that it was all rushing back,
so I think I'll have to on a rewatch, But it didn't bug me
in the moment or anything. So yeah, for that, it works for
me because this is like the build up. This has like been the one
thing that he's been like working towards. It's his whole life, and he's
finally here. He's obviously caught with so much emotion and like he's just like
right there, whereas before, like the in the after effect when when he
shoots that other guy, like so much adrenaline is going on, like he's
literally fighting for his life here this guy is beating down on him. He's
beating on on the other guy and then just trying to get to this gun
because you're you're in the fight of your life literally in that moment. So
for that it worked a lot more for me. But I see where you're
going from. I'm surprised he fled the scene too, especially where we get
with our character, which again very another like adrenochronism, where like this guy,
you know, last frame of the movie is him pass out and dying.
I felt like he was on a suicide mission. So I know there
was other guys coming, but I thought he was gonna stay there and kill
ron On no matter what, you know what, he he still booked it,
so I guess he had to fight another day. What I have to
ask you is it's it's funny because we like when we did the john Wick
rad Show, I feel like you and Taylor on a different side of this
for me and Dylan, where me and Dylan at times didn't like how like
big it was getting with this, I feel like it did to what John
Wick did, and I don't know was not necessarily a con for me,
but I thought, especially for the first out of the movie, it feels
like his mission is to take out Rana and that's it, right, the
guy that killed his mama other people in the village. But then I feel
like, once we get that, and there's some other Chase saying we get
introduced to, he has to take all the bigger political figure. And I
was not expecting that in this movie, even like one from the trailer,
but two just from the way the movie was going in the first act,
I didn't think it was gonna go, oh well, this goes all the
way up, and this guy kind of gave some direction. So not that
that was a con because it gave him lots of bad guys to go through
near the end and lots of stakes, but I didn't think we were gonna
get that side. But at the same time, where I'll counter myself and
say it's a pro is he's like riddling lots of different political views in there.
It's not just a like it's to me, it's definitely a movie that
you could watch it and for some people that have really tough time with politics,
like, oh, I can't watch this movie because it leans one way
too much, you know, But that's what I do appreciate because he's the
director and he's making a choice with so and you can like that or not.
Right. So that's where at first I was like, I don't know
if I'm enjoying do we need the big Oh you gotta take down the system?
Right? I just want this to be maybe a simple tale. But
as we went throughout the movie, more political things and political characters that were
being affected were being sprinkled throughout. I ended up enjoying it more and it
kind of kind of was more seamless than I worried. When we got introduced
to big government, bad guy, which can go bad lots of times.
Because that just gets maybe unbelievable, and I don't need dead Fatel taking on
the whole country of cops and assassins at this point, right, because we
see he's not John Wick, he's a regular guy, like you said,
so there's a level to it. So I've seen Beekeeper yet I had,
Yes, that is the perfect example of way way too much. I don't
give a shit. He ends up going to the fucking White House and like
maybe killing there like that. There you go, that's the perfect example.
And that's where I feel like they did not make anything politically. It was
just okay, well here's a bad guy, here's a governor, here's a
prime minister, here's a president. It just like every bad guys. Oh
it's a bigger figure. Yeah. Beekeeper good example to me what I started
to worry about when I saw because we see the political figure in a lot
of ads at first, right, and I just thought, oh, it's
just like this, this kind of like a fun character, some stylized stuff.
But then when he got introduced, I had I forgot about Beekeeper,
but there you go. It was definitely the Beekeeper is so good shout out
there. Uh yeah, I was an expectionist to go there. I think
it made enough sense though, just for the fact of like he was the
one pulling the strings and and really like he was the one that made the
call right to burn down the village. So yeah, although the Ruana guy
was like the direct killer of his mother, like, it really was through
the decisions of the other characters. So for me, like it was just
an escalation that kind of made sense, And it was kind of nice the
whole setup of the location that we were at, like or at least where
they were at. I don't know if it's a hotel. It seems like
like every floor is something different, whether it's like a restaurant and then almost
like a casino type thing that there's a brothel, and then like a just
yeah, just various other levels. It was. It was a fun setting
to have those those moments. It was what bugged me was I didn't understand
so it all goes to shit, right, It's great he shows up at
the end, he's killing all the guys. Like I said, that great
score scene where it's a quiet score, you have this. Uh, I
forgot to get the character's name here, excuse me. The lady who was
uh that's his mom, who's like the semi love interest Ceda. Yeah,
Cita was her name of the one that was working there. Yeah, And
then that I liked. I liked that didn't go full love interest. It
was like a like, it was like that what I like is like in
another life, in another situation, you two could be together. But clearly
like that. If you would have gone further with that, to me,
that would have been a down point in the movie because I thought they did
just enough that there's a little bit of a traction. They both know they're
going through shit. There's somewhat of a bond there, but there's not too
much, and they both save each other. That's why I like. But
anyway, so you have her pop off that, you have the outcast people
really cool who just again it's like, what's the security of this place?
I don't know, but I was just this stuff's cool with their cautions and
outfits during the fight that's popping off. So it is like it's not just
Dev Patel. There is Dev Paateel in a mini army in this hotel building
whatever. That's what I did not buy. The political leader kind of just
sitting around and waiting it was weird where he goes to a certain floor and
Ron's there just standing there waiting, like just hanging out on the mirror room,
and then he goes to the next floor and the political figures just standing
there waiting. It fell a bit too video gaming in that aspect of like
the the NPC boss has to wait for you to like step in the circle
and prompt the fight. So that's one thing that it was very cool.
But I didn't understand why why they're hanging around in this building because I guess
they just thought maybe the guy couldn't get there with her finger because he had
to chop the finger off. But still, I just feel like there's a
mass murder going on in this buildings to get you the fuck out, Like
that's a political hit, like in any world, you'd be out of there.
So there was a few things like that where in my mind is going,
oh, why why is that happening? You know? But yeah,
that that stuff kind of makes it lean into almost like a John Wick Yes
thing, where like it is a boss waiting for you in that level and
it's awesome because like the action is sweet, but we don't really worry about
explaining the realistic way that that would actually happen, and like that one didn't
bother me at all. That there was some other things that I think just
some of the specifics didn't make sense for me. But I don't know,
I love the movie enough to kind of turn a blind eye to to some
of those things, Like I don't need answers on how like how he got
out of that burning house wait, you know, as a kid, like
like I thought he was trapped in the attic on a burning building, Like
I'm pretty sure that would have been a death sentence, But that doesn't really
need and expl like if that bothers you, you know, obviously you have
other issues with the movie. So I didn't mind that at all. But
I did notice there was some things where I felt like we were jumping maybe
from place to place without too much like strong reasoning on on how that makes
sense. But I just kind of I don't know, I kind of just
was thinking about those other films that are are like that, like like a
John Wick or or or something where you know, it's just higher than life
at moments type movie. I think this one is a lot more grounded than
what john Wick is, but uh, it definitely is still in that realm,
and hey, it's not a bad thing. I absolutely love those john
Wick movies. This this like john Wick. While I'm watching, I'm like,
man, this is something you turn on if you just like you just
want to get like fucking pumped and like I don't know if you're like working
out or whatnot, like like like just something has bit more sad though you
want to watch. Scenes are so good, but yeah, fair enough you
pass forward through those moments you need like a YouTube super cut of all the
he starts cutting his heart open, You're like, okay, I gotta move
on. This is the trippy. Yeah, you don't do heavy lifting.
When the trippy dream secrets, you're just standing there like, let's am I
high? The one thing I missed I loved like the final confrontation. I
thought I was gonna like the conversation. I love to have this outward shot
of the building and it's lit where it's just their shadows, and then they
have the big painting of all the stories of multiple things of their cultures.
So that was really really cool. I thought for sure, and it could
be a budgetary thing, but even then, don't show it. I thought
for sure Dev Paatel was gonna put on one of those fucking shoes and stomp
the shadow, because he talks about this whole story about you know, it's
you have the shoes and the marketings are for because when you're walking you could
be like pretty much you could be constantly killing things, right, like bugs,
little things like that. So it's like it's like this whole symbolism.
So I thought for sure Dev Pattel was gonna put one was on and stomp
the shit. I thought that was a missed opportunity because the films set it
up, but still cool that the sandal had like this mini sore net and
you just fucking just stab them a bunch, and I don't know the guy
would stab five times and then so to be like, oh, we can
make a deal, I think at that point, dude, I think it's
too late. I was laughing hard like at the same time, though,
I did like it because it shows how pathetic he is, Like like all
this time he's shown as this like almost like like almost like a deity,
right, like like like a bean that's better than everyone else and like such
a higher being than just the commoners. So I did like in that moment
like he is just so pathetic, like begging for his life and yeah,
and then just fucking right in the forehead with these like needles. Oh my
god. I just there's there's some grotesque moments for me where I feel like
it's certain stabs or slashes with like blades that just like, I don't know,
they just get me a lot more than some other violence does. And
there was quite a few when you have that, oh, I know,
And when you had that guy in the elevator and he's just like like putting
the knife deeper and deeper into his throat and then uses his teeth to just
like twist it. I was like, oh my gosh. But just stuff
that that got the biggest reaction theater. Yah, was the stab and then
that the teeth, because I think anything with teeth and biting, it's like
it gives you like, oh, and that's great. I don't know the
laws of physics of that, because I feel like you would not be strong
enough to do that with your teeth. But I take it that his adrenalin
is so high right now working out his jaw at he's got strong jaw muscle.
We missed the scene of the outcast peeple where there's just like beating the
ship up it like they're punched him in his jaw and everything like that.
So but yeah, no, I liked all. I thought all the villains
worked, you know, I want them to get killed. I thought the
actors did a good job. So I was I was a fan of them
all. So let's, uh, let's take our next abbreak and we'll keep
talking about monkey dance while were back, and we're back. Where do you
want to go next? Her? Where do I want to go next?
You're kind of talking about the outcast people. That was something that it seemed
like like it was kind of a background conflict between uh, Like I think
there was a couple of news I don't know things that we could hear,
and the there was like police beating like tradition, people burning places down,
et cetera. Stuff like that, So it was it was like on the
background. So like, I like how that was like the breadcrumbs were kind
of shown early on and then and then later on we meet some of these
individuals and just kind of hear their stories and and like how they're able to
kind of house you know, like dev here in these moments like those names
like kid I'm just used as real name, going full Taylor Field here,
but uh yeah no. I I liked how that was kind of like our
allies in the film, right, like like as someone that's rooting for the
kid the Monkey Man here dev Bettel, I I like that that was the
sanctuary and we kind of hear their just just from their point of view and
how they're kind of being outcast and put in this position that they kind of
have to hide and in some you know, fucked up way, but just
just them rallying together and kind of being like he's just I don't know,
like like he like his boot camp. I guess he like this is where
he just comes to really refine his skills and just get the tools to really
go kick ass. It totally worked for me, Like I loved how,
you know, he definitely has the tools to kick ass before this point,
but he just comes here and just like beats up the heavy bag, takes
some like trippy drug psychedelic things, and and then now he's like the true
monkey Man that he's at like his full potential, And that just worked for
me. I don't know. I like when our characters go somewhere and just
like train and then come back just like refined. It's it's probably like an
anime thing that's just ingrained with me. Definitely. Dragon ball Z has done
that many times in the past, so that's probably the roots of my enjoyment
for that stuff. But here it was done really well and I did like
their kind of explanation to on how what was it? It was It was
Shiva and like another another version of Shiva, but it was like the two
sides of them, one's chaos, one's something nice. I'm butchering this.
I totally forgot what it represented, but just their explanation of what it was
in the film, it I don't know. It was just it was really
really well said and articulate as opposed to what I'm trying to do here.
So I apologize I'm butchering this, but all of that stuff was one hundred
percent working for me. Well, I think it did two things too,
Like like you said, it's a classic training sequence, but it's also a
two for as far as it shows like this doesn't become like a grand scale
movie, but it shows him that he's fighting for more than just him,
Like I think it becomes a very personal mission. At first, it starts
as a personal mission, but it becomes bigger than that because he sees it.
It's almost like, oh, I'm doing this because you guys killed my
parents but or killed my mom at leaves, but then as he meets other
characters, it's like, oh, I'm doing this because of this and this
and this. It's not just about him, even though it's still great motivation,
right of like, hey, you kill my mom, I'm gonna kill
you. Classic movie story. Good, you don't need anything more, But
it's almost like that propels him to be almost in that kind of god tear
at the end, and he doesn't even get that when he takes lots of
damage and he presumably dies the end. So that's where it's like, I'm
kind of fine with all the violence he takes because the guy collapses and he's
not looking good, and I who knows, maybe there could be a sequel
and whatnot, but like, I'm fine if this is one off, and
I almost prefer it that way because it makes the character even more human.
Of yeah, he did go through all the damage, but he did that
because he's not gonna make it out like he's gonna die here, you know.
I like that for the body and the violence. I like that for
the lady too, same thing of like maybe in another life, but I
think it's yeah, retrains his body, he heals, but he realizes that
it's not just me that's been screwed over by these people. Of course he
sees the country, but really he's seeing it firsthand, like while they're there,
he's hearing about how you know, they see that character that someone puts
some sort of note on their door and they just go to take it down
and they beat the shit out of her. Right, And that's saying where
it's not. I feel like at the first it's very much just about what
his kid want, but now it's like, hey, what can kid do
and what can it kind of become? And even that monkey Man. And
that's only where way where I could see a sequel is the legend of the
Monkey Man. I think could grow when you could have that sort of not
saying it's super but that idea of like almost what you said the beginning of
this movie, that's what you could do in a sequel of like he's growing
just because the legend of that right as far as he's doing all these good
deeds, like this urban myth of this guy, or even you could have
other people just bring up the monkey. I'm not saying do another monkey man
without dev. You have to do it without dev. I'm just saying,
like that they were starting to build up that monkey man, this and the
other thing. I like, it's like a to be brutally honest, it's
like in these action movies to have a whole section where his supporting characters are
a multitude of trans characters. Tons of movies would not do that because it's
like, oh, this is gonna turn off an audience, and definitely some
people will. And I don't really care, but I thought that was bold
as far as that's another big political thing to put in there. So that's
what sets it apart. It's not like, oh, it's just a random
group of kids or other people that are poor being beat on. It's like,
these are people that want very current issues. But two, it's not
something there's I don't know. We talk about this all the time. We're
like, we're big fans of Hunter Schaeffer, but and we're happy she's in
these movies, but it's like our is she ever gonna get cast? And
like a DC of Marvel Star Wars, right, And that's why for me,
it's like to support these movies because this is where these people can do
where it's like they don't got to give a shit about oh is this gonna
play in this country? Is this gonna make this executive happy? It's just
he can go and do this and it works too. It's not just like
where people always try to not lots of peeled they're specific you know, red
eye thumbnail people, but just people like, oh, it's like force wokenesses.
And that's like it fits the story because it's a marginalized group that's being
attacked by a big government and something that he was previously right as a child,
right like he had been through those things. So I thought all worked
together and then they just make them super badasst like. I was not expecting
that turn. I thought. I thought the ending was he steals their money,
he doubles down on himself, great fucking sequence, which we'll get into
the whole monkey man fighting thing. But then he I don't know, quadruples
at least triples their money and leaves in there. I thought that was it.
Oh, that's a fun little story. It's like that's the Monkey Man
legend building right where he saved these people, but what do they do?
And that's kind of the thing where to me, it's Monkey Man's lesson too,
if like, don't just make it about yourself when you help those people
out, Now they're gonna come help you out. And they just showed the
end with these fucking costumes and these swords looking like they're from the Mummy too,
like me to take on the Majai or whatever. It was like damn,
And that was all like cool. It was stuff that I should have
in most movies be like, ah, this might be the type of cheesy,
like this didn't really set up to be, like these guys are like
these guys, gals whoever they are, like they're these massive warriors. But
I just bought into in this moment that they could just come and fuck everybody
up. So I liked everything about that. And yeah, we talked about
a bit, but that sequence I was that's when I was like, okay
for me, it really stepped out of I show multiple images of the monkey
like holding his chest, open his heart, so then there's just a scene
in here to get the flashback. Literally you're going into the heart of the
monkey man. He cuts open his chest, open his heart, you go
into his chest and that shows the vision of his mom. So it's like
showing like you know, it's on the nose, but still I like it
is like his mom is still in his heart. But that's where I was
like, Oh, this is stuff you don't see in regular action revenge.
It's always just you might get a flashback. But I love this, like
neon A twenty four, like taking a different route of Okay, that's gonna
stand out. I was not expecting this. None of the trailers showed me
like, oh, we're gonna get a trippy dream sequence where you go into
Dev Patel's heart. So pretty much I have no complaints the score, the
training sequences there, Like I enjoyed that whole sequence. Like I said,
there's times of it I could have maybe been short, but I'm not even
gonna commit that because I want to rewatch it because there's other themes and stuff
that maybe I haven't picked up upon. But uh yeah, I thought that
all worked out, which I was worried when we got there, like do
I need Dev Patel to be here for twenty minutes with these side characters that
might not matter, which they didn't mattering, so good job to him,
But uh yeah I enjoyed that all. So yeah, no, one hundred
percent. I I mean, I don't know if to echo everything you said,
I agree there just mention more on like his mother and all those flashback
sequences, I like to all those scenes were done too, Like it really
just showed how close those two were. I'd like her telling him him the
story of the Monkey Man and just just all like all all of her lessons
I guess that she had told him in those flashback sequences. I just really
enjoyed all those moments. And then it made like the the graphic, you
know, burning of his village just that much harsher because like it is just
such a happy moment up until that point, they're they're seeing like the Puppet
Show, and he's just like totally laughing and having a good time. Everyone
is there, and then you hear like the soldiers or police whatever they are
get closer and closer and starts shooting off guns and it's just, yeah,
it's terrifying. So I thought all of that stuff was just really really well
made, and little stuff like I don't know, what we're gonna talking about
this before but like his hands being scarred and they re feel wide later terrible
way he is trying to save his mom right like I thought, oh,
they're gonna burn his hands something. No, like that. That's an awful
way to go. Well one for the moment. Two but and again because
I don't want to forget this out have my notes. But I love that
the last he kills that guy, he looks upon that painting and then the
last image of the movie before he collapses him thinking back to him being a
child and just those moments he had with his mom. I love that shot.
They go do it multiple times for that shot of the tree roots,
like just showing like his home, his roots at home pretty much like they
pan up and it's him and the mom running around like good stuff with all
that. I enjoy that type of And that's another thing too at times also
not just because dev was in it, it reminds me a lot of Green
Night, where Green Night would take sections to like just be slow and just
show you visions or show you moments of other things happening. So that could
be something that maybe he was in obviously in that movie just went Hey,
I like that stuff. I'm gonna do it too, because there's I think
green night ISM's in here, not just because of dev but yeah, for
sure. Yeah monkey Man. I want to talk about specifically him. In
the boxing scenes, we got Charlotte Coppo Copley. I think Charlotte Copley always
messed up his name. I'm going Charlotte, I messed it up again.
There you go. We knew he was in here. I kind of forgot,
but he's like the ring announcer, but clearly literally what they're doing is
just a harder version of like WWE professional wrestling, where it's a fight.
They are hitting each other and being each other up, but it's like scripted
of who's gonna win, who's gonna go there. He even knows the point
that, oh, monkey Man's gonna win, like he's helping someone. Bet
monkey Man's gonna ran in two rounds, but then the third round, I'm
gonna go down, like they've scripted this like days in advance and stuff.
So I liked all those scenes. It was it was fun, like you
talked about, the mass really worked there. I thought the audience had a
fun aspect. I like seeing just certain things with the characters. They did
a classic Spider Man where you know, three hundred ducks. Oh he didn't
build bleed enough. But the sequence at the end Man, that was one
where same thing when we went back to get the money and it was gonna
be a longer seat, and was like, oh do we need this?
Like I enjoy this, but do we need this one? He sets up
this guy who's supposed to lose to just BrownHouse, kicks some knocks on the
fuck out and I love the shooting of the crowd Copelly like everything, and
then you just proceed to get other opponents, especially the big fucking guy barbed
wire baseball bat. I love that whole thing. And that's where you like
quadrupled the money for the outcast people. But that was another thing where like,
oh we need to go back here? Does it need to be this
song? And absolutely I thought they did a fantastic job, I really and
I enjoyed all the aspects of him being the monkey man, how it worked
that just kind of gross vibe. But he has to make the money,
he's just getting beat the shit. I think they could have made him a
little more bruised throughout the uh the days after it heals pretty quick. Yeah,
especially as like a waiter, right, it's finally he's a dishwasher,
but when he's a waiter, they cut to him bleeding like from the nose,
and the next day or next night he's like he's completely fine. But
that's just a little nitpick. So no, exactly. Yeah, I loved
all that stuff. That was something in the trailers I was looking forward to
seeing, and I think it was even better than I was expecting it to
be. Like how hard it was, like when they're just beating the shit,
like we don't see his face because the mass, but like those punches
just going through and then you have blood coming through like the mass nose.
It's just ugh, just disgusting. And even in the beginning when he does
that first fight and walks off, I think that's when you have the credit
like Monkey Man show up the title card there and he's just like goes to
the bathroom. He's all like adrenaline ut beaten to shit. He's like bleeding
in the sink. He like fishes out like a blood clot or something.
I was mouth and it was just, yeah, so graphic. I feel
like there's so much stuff like this in this movie. I once saw this
with my dad. I was originally go see with my dad and my mom,
And I'm so glad my mom bowed out because she would not have liked
this at all. She's just like the hard violence I think would have been
too much for her. But you know, we had a good time for
sure. But yeah, all all all the monkey man and stuff was fantastic
and I was really pumped to see that dude in there. I feel like
I've seen him in a handful of things and he's always good and everything I've
seen him in. First one was District nine. I guess that would have
been the first project that I had seen him in. So he was really
fun in this of just being this like grease ball character, really really slimy
and just written people off and just really like I don't know, feeding the
crowd too with his charisma was good. So yeah, like all that stuff,
all that suff he was like perfect cast. That role was fantastic.
And and what you said, like when he takes the money from the outcast
people and quadruples it and gives it back to them, Like, I'm so
glad we went back to the room the ring there because it was just a
really cool setting to have and to not go back to it I think would
have been a shame. And to have him back in there just fucking like
super saying level at this point, like he's just at his people, all
yeah, you get the one tall guy from like Outlast Trials in there.
Uh, definitely that vibe. Super hairy as well, and like just with
his bad smacking you. But all of that was was just fantastic. I
like the crowd transition from hating him to just loving him, and they're just
totally eating it up. So yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think,
is there any ass but oh, I'm the friend I had Afonso a Fonso.
Yeah, so I liked him, but I felt that it sounds mean,
but they probably should just kill them in the when everything went to shit
because it was odd where he's we don't get this Devatel's lying to him in
a sense right as far as the monkey man, he's just saying, I
want to make money and that's all funds. I want to make money.
I don't get the general sense at Alfonso is like a good guy, he's
in the wrong business. They make fun of him, but like that's just
being made fun of it. I just don't think they showed enough of him
being like, oh, I'm you know, just got roped in this,
but a Heart'm a good guy. So when everything was to shit, and
I did like the joke with nickum nauj in the vehicle, the little you
know, two seat or whatever. Yeah, the tuck tuk some good visuals
there, But when all was a ship and monkey Man jumps that as us
an escape and Alfonse like get me, get me why, I didn't understand
why he was gonna want to be included because I know some people go,
oh, well he got him in there. People could time too, but
like you could easily say, hey, I had no idea, and he
does go into hiding, so maybe that's just it right where he was just
that worried. But I felt it was a strange thing for that character just
to jump to like I'm gonna jump in the car that's being shot at the
cops being chased after even if you're gonna run away, even you feel shit,
they're gonna tie me to this kid, I'm just gonna run to jump
in the car. I felt was very risky. And then the rest of
the movie he's just kind of popping in and out here, like I just
felt like that's a he probably. I don't think the actor is bad.
It was fun, but he could have just died. He ends up just
somehow getting back to the Monkey Man fight, like kind of by coincidence,
he sees the post, He's like, oh, the Monkey Man's back.
So I felt like that was somebody we could have lost along the way and
it wouldn't have felt too bad, Like maybe that could have been a nice
moment. I don't know. So yeah, I didn't need him where.
That was the opposite of the The Lady Kitta. I thought that was like
a perfect us. She was in there the right amount. She everywhere she
appeared made sense. When she turned made sense. I feel like Alfonso,
they kind of just eventually were like, I don't know what to do with
this character, you know, So maybe they could have lost him, But
yeah, that's fair because when when he picks him up, I was definitely
confused as well. Part of me thought he was actually gonna just get killed
in that ride, like he was gonna get shot a bullet and that was
just gonna be that because I didn't really think we're gonna have a lot of
use for him, and we really didn't. I somewhat liked how he went,
like from his perspective kind of like seize the monkey man and like realizes
that maybe that's you know, his old buddy like back in action. Then
he goes and watch him just kick ass. Like I did like that sequence,
I guess, But other than that, it was pretty unnecessary for him
to, you know, like especially it's a high paced scene, like he's
getting shot at and he just stops the car and it's like get in Alfonso,
like let's go. Yeah, And I didn't feel like they were close
enough either. I felt like depitt, I wouldn't want to kill this guy,
but I didn't feel like, oh, like if it was the dog,
i'd understand. I loved all that with the dog. That was great
of two for of one, he has this connection. He keeps seeing the
dog. They have nice moments, but then he does it in a way
to teach the dog so the dog will come back with the gun. Like
I thought that was very clever. But yeah, I just didn't. I
didn't if I needed him to jump or if they wanted him to jump in
the car. I think I need a little bit more of them being close,
and so they just feel like acquaintances who were just using each other for
money, right, dep ptell need a job, and then dep Patel was
giving Alfonso, like Alfonse is giving him a job, and then dep Patel's
giving him money by telling him the end of the result of the match,
right, Like he's cheating in a sense. So that's There's like, okay,
so I just maybe there was more that they decided to cut out.
But yeah, I think they could have just killed them and that would been
That would have been fine, you know. But I just remember too.
Dev's character does have a name throughout it. It's Bobby. Yeah, because
I remember, I guess that's a fake name. I think I can't remember
hearing like Bobby, like that's such a such an odd name. But again,
yeah, like you said, it's a fake name, so not his
real name. But uh yeah, yeah, because when Alfonso sees him in
the restaurant, that was something I was a little bit confused on. He's
like like calls his name and he goes up to him. He's like,
I know you from somewhere, and I was like trying to think of where
they had seen each other before. But I don't know if that was actually
something that they'd seen each other. I don't know if he had gone to
those fights before. It didn't seem like it because I thought that Deev's character
had told him the address of like where to go initially. So yeah,
I was a little bit confused there. Maybe it was just a like a
nothing thing. You just thought he knew him but didn't. But I was
a little bit confused in that moment. Yeah, I mean too, I
wasn't because it's like when he is when he's fighting, he's the monkey man,
right, So it's not like he saw his face. So yeah,
he was a little confused by that too, if he was trying to if
that was gonna time later like oh I do know you from this, but
it didn't really come back. Mane. He just has a recognizable face,
you know, one of those type of faces. So let's see we touched
upon the bollox that he touched upon on some in the ending. I don't
think I have anything else than just like general praise of like cineratography, great
shots, scores, like all those boxes that you want in a movie,
they're all there. Deap Patel, the whole like fast thing deap Patel.
There's not a single scene in here where he's like anywhere close to being bad
or like mediocre, like he yeah, you fully buy in this character.
I'm not saying any of a sequel, but it is. It is a
different way of it Keanu Reeves where it's like, oh you watch Kean because
you know he's that type of character and stuff. Deb Bettel's like, Okay,
if you did tell me if there's a Monkey Man two, I wouldn't
be that mad because just what he brings this character, even when he had
that PTSD when he just leaves the restaurant so many times that can be cheesy
or we've seen it before, there's nothing there. But I just felt he
did in such a good way of the build up. I was worried he
was gonna fucking clock Rona right there when he was seeing Rona like put his
hands down her legs stuff. I was like, fuck, man, like
it's over, he's gonna snap right here. And that's a good job where
it's not just oh, Depatel put on a mean face like he sold me.
Usually I'm like, okay, so here this's going he sold me on.
Oh fuck, he's gonna put it down a glass and he's gonna smack
with him, and he didn't. He got out of there. So I
can't say good enough things about deb Battel and some of the other aspects,
but yeah, dep Putel definitely shined there the whole time. So a couple
of things I would shout out is Rona's actual death when DEVI was just beating
the shit out him with like that that high heel. Yeah, just just
so gruesome. He's like gasping for air, begging for for for just you
know, mercy, and he just keeps like beating his head until it just
stops and then just like a pool of blood goes up. Very very gruesome.
Maybe what he deserved. I don't know you'd be the judge of that,
but I also love the judge of it. Why don't you think what
case do you make not deserving it? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know where I was falling orders. It's a gruesome way to
go. You know, he's probably done some other bad stuff. We don't
even Yeah, you don't trust that mustache. I I love the little like
drum player of the outcast. Yeah, I think especially like pairing up with
like the when he was just punching the heavy bag. I liked all those
moments. Oh when heavy bag broke, that was cool. Just a little
thing, but that was cool. He's just punching and the rice is going
to where it's like, oh, this is bad ass. Great. I
liked it too, because it's not like he just like his first training session,
he just like, you know, knocks the bag off. It's like,
oh, what a badass. Like he really it feels like he's building
up his strength and getting cleaner with his with his strikes and eventually just gets
to the point that that breaks it. Like it feels deserved when he actually
destroys the bag. Another shout out I'd give is when dev Is I can't
remember where it is actually it's either when he's running away or something along the
lines, but he he comes into like that actual brothel where people are just
totally deep penetration and everyone's just totally full penetration. Don't matter if his gunshots
going off, that paid fifty dollars, his rocks off, and he's gonna
he's gonna come then leave man. Nobody stops for any of the action,
just go on going at But I love it when he gets like face to
face this one guy with an axe and the one guys like you wanna fuck
motherfuck up. I loved it, Like have you ever seen the crank movies?
Oh? Yeah, that's what that sequence reminds me of. Just this
random I'm gonna assume he's like the manager of the brothel he pulls with this
axe. Love it too, Like his second or third swing, he goes
to swing missus dead Bettell and hits like one of his employe either, like
like it's over for that guy. No. I enjoyed that as well because
it's like, oh, like is he just gonna pull an axe on this
guy? But the actor and the scenes soul enough are like, Okay,
this guy's fucking crazy enough. He just would. So Yeah. I enjoyed
that whole sequence because that's where reminded me of The movie at that point is
very serious. I think there's at times where they make like little jokes here
and there, or there are sequences like this and this is the biggest one,
but they all work. Still. It didn't take me out of it,
you know, because I also like dipotomies being the whole time. I
think he's about to try and explain what's happening, but it's just way too
late because the guy's already throwing an axe at him. He's like no,
no, no, no, like but he has to defend for his life.
And then yeah, he gets that kid out of there. I appreciate
that. So yep, no, that's true. What else I think that
was? I think that was it. There might have been another fight scene
I was gonna shout out, but I didn't write down, so I don't
remember. Yeah, it's one of those that I'm excited hopefully, well,
definitely, I imagine. I don't know where it will be by. I
think we'll talk about Golden Geeks because yeah, fun. If they don't watch
it, one of us will recommend it. But Score alone, I think
is what I would pitch. And yeah for me too, those two,
yeah, like those for sure are like Score and dev are the two that
I'd be gunning for. But yeah, I'm excited to watch this again.
I'm excited to show him and she was with me, so I had I
didn't get into it. I have a fucking guy. I Kirklyn knows the
story. I said, back row bunch of middle Seeds still two guys buy
tickets right beside me. It's like, fuck off, I will say too.
During the Dreams sequence, some guy was out and he was snoring like
a motherfucker. He was. He was the action guy that was like not
there for the A twenty four Indies stuff. Funny. He was out cold.
Then he woke up when I got my look, he's one of those
fuckers. He had sandals on, but took his sandals off and they're just
like he was just sitting there barefoot. Like I know, it's not any
different. It's like he was a whole character. But yeah, he he
was going at it. But what time was your showing? Seven? Okay,
like by time you get the eight p though, it's like he must
say a long day. I guess we've all been there. But I think
it was just because it does slow down that matl sequence. Right, it's
like they get there or like he gets shot. They find him in the
water, which again those were cool visuals too, just like the dirty gross
like river or lake he's in. It's just like it's not just this pristine
water. It's like he's shot and he's in this water that's probably gonna affect
this wound. But it's a long sequence from when he gets shot to going
back to being the monkey man of boxing. Like it's a good I'd say
probably twenty minutes, so I can see that's where somebody, I guarantee you
might be like, oh, I checked that out of it. And that's
why I said I don't I don't know if I need that to be shorter.
I did think about it at the moment, but I want to wait
on a rewatch. And yeah, I don't have any other notes. My
final thoughts is great, Oh sorry, you got something. I was just
gonna shout out because you said one guy was crashed and my dad was definitely
close a couple of times. I could tell you he starts breathing a little
bit heavier, and like, you know, then he like kind of catched
himself. He was asking for the popcorn at that point, so you know,
to kind of kind of wake yourself up. I've been there, eat
all the tricks. But reminded me of the scene when dev gets like arrested
and then he takes out the cops and like jumps out the back of the
vehicle onto like that truck there in that moment, my dad was just like
can you imagine like like you just said that audibly and it was just it
was so funny. I was like, yeah, that'd be shocking, just
like from the perspective of the truck guy. But no doubt, I couldn't
imagine any of this. I couldn't imagine. I couldn't imagine me running,
you know. But it was a funny little ad live thing. Yeah,
it reminded me to uh went and saw Kung Fu Panda four with my sister
and her kids, and uh man, my my niece and nephew were one
hundred percent engaged in that movie. They were so like just completely locked,
like not saying anything. At random times, like my one my my niece
would just turn to me and just like say something like so loud, so
loud, like that was in the trailers, and like like just laughed so
hard like or like repeated a line and just said it like so loud to
me. I'm like, well, that's hilarious. Yeah, no, yeah,
oh yeah, you ain't telling me I quiet in this situation. They
don't care, it's all. It's all I'm not used to seeing it with
kids. But it was a fun time. Yeah, not for monkey man,
don't bring your kids to monkey Man. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.
If you want to let us know that experience goes we Yeah, wouldn'
wouldn't be my first choice. But yeah, no, I don't have any
more thoughts. It was great. I think where I am right now is
at a nine point five. It's tough because there was times where I was
that a ten and I still be like a ten. This is definitely one
where I'm at the barama of It's somewhere from a nine to ten. I
don't think it's ever gonna go lower than a nine unless for some reason I
rewatch and a bunch of people brought up all this doesn't make it, but
like for me, just the craftsmanship, especially with what they have to do,
is very impressive. So this is one where, like I say,
there's times where okay, so oh, this could have been trimmed or this
character. But I'll see on a rewatch if that matters less or things work
more for me, or if it's the ladder of Okay, but this really
didn't go and I'm happy about nine point five. I couldn't go to the
nine, but it's definitely for me, no lower than a nine it's bordering
on a ten just for like the craftsmanship, that's all ten stuff. Like
again, it's not like doing where it's like, oh man, look at
you know how the spectacle of it, but it's just like what they have
to do with what they have. It's very impressive. There's times where it
just looks very very good for what they're doing with it. So yeah,
that's where I am. A nine point five. I have a little those
issues where think you could trumb a little stuff. There's a few character choices,
there's a few you know, convenient things as far as I said,
villains sticking around when sometimes the movies in the real world. But still you
know, very high. But yeah, that's where I would be nine point
five right now, maybe a ten. We'll bring us back Golden Tek sous.
I'd definitely be seen this again if non theaters at home, because it
I really really enjoyed it. It was fantastic film and I'm very happy and
I just cannot wait to see what Depatel does next. So yeah, that's
yeah, I was bordering between like a I don't know, nine point five,
eight point seventy five, like in that range. So I think I'll
go like nine right now, just a nice heart, solid nine. I
am curious how I feel on a second watch, because the first viewing,
especially in a movie like this that like the story's kind of being revealed as
it's going along, or his motivation for the revenge you're kind of piecing together,
but obviously knowing the film like going into it, will I personally think
will change a lot of just how I look at it. So I'm curious
if it. I don't think it'll go down by any means because I just
really loved it and the things that might be minor cons are so minor that
they really don't bring down the gentleman of the film. But you know,
some shaky cam things in there. So not not a perfect ten. But
yeah, I really really love this. I'm really glad I saw it,
and yeah, it's fun breaking down. Yeah, well, let's still when
you thought, if you've seen it, I said, will probably at least
some about it's somewhat come next to January February, which sounds weird to say
in March or April, but you know that's how it works here in Geate
First Land. But yeah, we'll be back next week. Some news,
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