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yeah, Ghostbusters, Taylor Field, just give us so quick cause we have
and you me did the review for Afterlife gosh three years ago now, but
just quickly because we didn't do a retro and like I said, we don't
cover Ghostbusters a bunch. Just give it quick. Overall, what's your fandom
level for Ghostbusters? And then nonspories, what did you think of this?
And then we'll take a break, and then going to spoils for people that
are first and listeners. I love Ghostbusters very very much. I think that
original is something that sits close to my heart that I like to rewatch every
Halloween. Sneak it on the on the TV and good to watch through.
It's just got a degree of humor, a degree of action, and just
a classic nostalgic aesthetic to it that I really love. It's just I find
myself as I as I age in years, these nostalgic old films have a
really good place in my heart, like Back to the Future, the Goonies
and Durassic Park, Alien all that kind of stuff. They just I love
to rewatch them. They just they made me happy and so this is definitely
a franchise that's in there. For me. I think that getting getting to
that crazy one that they did with the new leads that what was it like,
Ghostbusters put the SNL do you get a call? Yeah, the SNL
Ladies. Yeah, it was called Ghostbusters answer the call it actually, yeah,
I think they call it. No, that wasn't that long ago,
right, I think it started as just Ghostbusters. But when they're trying to
make it clear it was a reboot, they did answer the call. So
it's a very odd movie. It's a reboot. But then the like the
end credit scene sets up the exact same plot as the first Ghostbusters. All
the Ghostbusters are in the movie like the original actors, but they're playing different
people, like Bill Murray's playing like a non believer of ghosts. Yeah,
it wasn't the only thing I'd say it was great about it is Hempsworth knocks
it out of the park. He plays like the dumb mail assistant. Oh
my goodness, tons of last there. It's not the worst ever. I
think people just got mad because they love Ghostbusters and it's not the crew comeback.
But yeah, I was because Kate McKinnon's in that one, right,
Yes, that one of the actresses in this one looks exactly like her.
So when all the trailers, I thought that Kate mckinn was in this and
therefore that it was like a scan. It was narrative. But that was
a surprise. No, that was like a last Jedi. The studio saw
that come on, and they've just not answered it ever since. We don't
want we didn't make Ghostbusters answer the Call. But you don't believe me,
Taylor, but answered the call. No, I was when you you're reminded
that all the all the original cast members were in Answer the Call, and
I was trying to see if Harold Ramis was actually in there. I can't,
I don't. I think he had already passed at that point. Oh
yeah, yeah, you passed in twenty fourteen. Yeah you're right. Oh
yeah, so pretty close. Yeah, but yeah, just continuing off of
that, so, I I really really do love these films. I also
like the second one a lot. But yeah, that Answer the Call one.
The thing that I praised about it is I love the ghosts. I
loved how the effects of the paranormal were in that film is visually very very
wonderful to Behold, but it didn't have enough juice to really tempt me to
kind of ever go back to it again. It's it's just it's a one
off. It is what it is, and it exists. So I've always
preferred the classical Ghostbusters. And so when we got to Afterlife, Yeah,
we did a review on that one, and I think it is a fantastic,
fantastic film. It's wonderful, and I think it does a great job
at delivering to new fans of the franchise that are going in and does a
wonderful, wonderful sentimental job at delivering to the OG fans of the original.
So it's it's a perfect kind of tip of the triangle, if you will.
Then I think it's it's great. So when we get to this one,
I saw it with Madison and I saw it, we saw with two
of other friends. I really enjoyed it. I had a lot of fun,
and I think that it does a good job relatively. It kind of
piggybacking off the last one in terms of giving fans that nostalgia, the OG
characters, stuff like that. But then there are some things that are in
the story that I kind of figure what they're trying to go for but I
wasn't totally sold on it. I think there's a few things that I could
have done without, or I would have liked to have seen change. There's
one particular plot that could have been swapped around a little bit. But as
far as the villains go, wonderful. I think that there was a certain
twist that I thought was really really cool that I really liked. Although this
setup to it I did not need, but I feel like when it actually
happened, I thought, Okay, this is really cool, and I like
the thinking and the creativity that went into the idea to pull this off.
I thought that was really really neat. But yeah, I look forward to
revisiting this film again, and I am curious where the franchise will go from
here. Yeah, I'll go next because with Dylan sister, I want to
leave them last. That's a nice mystery card. But I'm the exact opposite
of Taylor. As far as eighties or nineties franchises that I'm very nostalgic about,
Ghostbusters is not one of those, I think, And it's weird because
it's spooking, its horror, And yes, I don't like Bill Murray in
general, but I don't think I would have been like that wouldn't been on
my radar as a kid, I wouldn't have I don't think at the age
of five or six at that point I was watching music. I don't really
like this actor. It was later on when I just didn't return too much
because I'm just not a fantasy humor and not really great human being when you
look into it. Now that's come out more. But so I never was
nostalgic for that film. I've seen it a handful times. I like it,
and I definitely understand its place in Hollywood history, and I understand why
people love it and why they're around that age. You know, they they
hooked onto it. So I've seen them all after life. I quite enjoyed
it and go back. I thought it was a good It was kind of
a lesser Force Awakens and Top Gun Maverick, where I think it has that
magic of doing the whole original new one putting together. I just didn't reach
those heights, but I think there was some very touching moments in that.
So this is the kind of like what do you do next? And luckily
like Top Gun Mavericks and a one off in Force Wakens a whole trilogy,
so they're not really kind of latched onto that. But I think the biggest
complaint with this where overall I enjoyed it, but I think that there's a
version of this movie that's with majority of just the new cast I probably like
better, and I think that is better. I think with a two hour
movie, they got way too many characters going on. And I'm not saying
a way that it's confusing or I just dislike it. I just feel like
there's people that just go missing for very long time. Spinn Wolfhart is gone
for a long time. Carrie Koon, who's a great actor. She plays
like the mom, and Paul Rudd's you know, I'm sure, seemed to
be wife in the next one. They do it like she sits on a
couch, cracks a cold one, and she's gone for about an hour,
you know, And it's just like even Paul like, yes, you would
think is the main guy of this and it's it's one of those weird sequel
things where they do this and it's tough because you have certain characters from the
first one and they all come back, whether it's the original cast or the
new cast, but then you're also adding three to four new characters, and
that's why it's tough of do you want to do the swamp, but do
you want to kill people off? I don't know, because now I'm worried
about the next one, like you bring everyone back. We're looking like in
Finny War here. But overall, well, I enjoyed it. I think
it's a good time all. I took all the girls to it. They
enjoyed it, So yeah, I think it's like a like a thumb like
if it were doing the animated show someone, it's like a thumbs up movie
where it's like I'm not gonna put this on all the time. But if
I was in a Ghostbuster's mood, then maybe I would watch us. And
I think the girls are quite liking Ghostbusters, so maybe. And they haven't
seen the originals because especially the first one there's some like dicey stuff, like
they don't need to see blowjob Ghosts yet, like the eighties that was a
different time, so one day we'll get there. But these are like a
fun to me. They're like PG Stranger Things. But the thing about Stranger
Things is it's a show, so you can have that many characters. Right,
this is a movie, and I wonder if you took out all the
original cast, how much more time you've had. But at the same time,
I get whyfe for box office and enjoyment, and you do while you're
here, right because look at Harold Ramis, he was a original member.
We lost them before all these and for the people, I love these characters,
you definitely want them here because at any point in the future you could
make a Ghostbusters movie without them. But at the same time, then I'd
say maybe lesson on the character. I think the villain was fine. I
know, Taylor, you spoke about like like it was a great actor or
something. I thought it was just kind of like a thing that just popped
up and was like, Okay, this is the big CGI bad guy with
the tone like the light beam in the sky. We gotta fight at them.
There's no act. I say, no, no, no, I'm
purely meant in the sense of like I thought the villain was super scary and
I just loved it. Yeah, I'd say that the ending is very too
like twenty ten late comic book third act, where, like I said,
beaming the sky tons of CGI are going off just a big battle, it
doesn't really matter. There's one storyline I really like with the main character Taylor
what's her name? It kind of grace what's her name? In this steeviee
right, Yeah, it's her interaction with a ghost that I really really enjoy.
I thought that was really good and I thought kind of use more.
So overall like I liked it, and I think if you're Ghostbusters fans,
you would be happy. But I also don't think this is gonna be like
Anywhere Come Golden Geeks time. It's gonna be a movie that I think in
six months I might have a tough time remembering. And that's not a bad
thing, Like you can't remember every movie and leave an impact. But that's
where I kind of am. We're gets the thumbs up. Was a fun
couple hours. Maybe you could use a little bit more flesh characters, or
it could be a little less. I don't know, but fun time of
the movies. If your Ghostbusters fan, go see it. But it's not
wanting going to be returning two bunch, And I would say it was lesser
than the Afterlife when I think Afterlife had a and that's because to me,
they had a much better director. There just had a certain pacing and a
certain good just kind of gravitas around it, where this just felt like a
popcorn flick. So Dyll Muss for the people that don't know, what is
your history of the Ghostbusters? And then what do you think about this?
It's pretty short. This is the first Ghostbusters movie I've ever seen in my
life. I didn't spend the time in the last couple of weeks here to
catch up on the old ones. You know, the original has always been
on that list, and I feel like whatever Halloween comes around, I just
kind of forget how it exists. And then another year goes around I haven't
seen it yet, and here we are. I just really enjoyed the trailers
for this. I think it just looked like exactly you said, like fun
popcorn sort of flick, like a disaster movie sort of vibe with all the
ice coming in from the ocean, and I was like, you know what,
I'm into it. I want to go check it out. And so
I didn't. I didn't do my homework. Although I don't I don't feel
like I don't feel like that was much of a problem. In fact that
I think it's like what like on a TV there's like a news thing that
like kind of quickly right up. Yeah, the plot so any I mean
it's pretty simple anyway. It's like I feel like I can kind of fill
in the gaps. But that was nice to have kind of right near the
start of the movie. Overall, I had a good time with it.
I enjoyed it. I think the movie, though, like the first half
I thought, was really strong, like maybe just getting into the world,
getting introduced to these characters, and just kind of getting into the lore of
Ghostbusters because it's I guess more than I was expecting. It's such a cross
between fantasy and science and the way they melded together is interesting. I thought
it was always more of a science y kind of thing. I guess Ghosts
would be more of a fantasy realm. But even in terms of like like
Kumal's character here, like the Firewalk or whatever his name is, Like there's
some crazy stuff that's going on. Oh Godmaster Firemaster. Yeah, Like there's
a lot of stuff in here that was way more fantasy albument that I was
expecting, and that stuff was was pretty compelling to me. And then I
think there was something wrong with the second half of the movie where things went
off the rails both and wrong. Yeah, it was like it was a
mix of different things, is what you were saying, Travis of like,
man, where the fuck did Paul Rudd go? Why? Why is he
gone? And then it makes me question his character. And then you know,
Phoebe as the main character, she is the protagonist of this movie.
It's really centered around her, and there were just certain things around her that
I just felt kind of broken my mind because she's shown to be so smart,
but then she's so dumb at the same time, and like she's a
kid, but it's like not like she's a child, Like she's still fifteen
in the movie, and she's like clearly a genius. So a lot of
that was really rubbed me the wrong way in terms of some of the plot
stuff there. And then maybe this is getting a bit spoilery, so we'll
hold back on that part. But there are certain things that were maybe a
bit underwhelming for me too when we get into that third act and the action
of it. I'll say so overall, had a good time. I enjoyed
it. I'm glad I finally jumped into this universe. I definitely still want
to go back and watch those other ones. I probably should have at least
done Afterlife, but you know, here we are, and yeah, this
does make me want to go back and see more. Even if this isn't
a movie that I really plan to revisit much, if at all, in
the future. I think if you enjoyed this one, I think Afterlife you'll
really enjoy because I think that's the better version of this. And it's like
the classic like they're finding the old stuff and honestly the original it's so I
get it. But this is why I think that Sony who did this movie,
wants to do this with the Spider Man, because in the original movie
or certain Afterlife, the original cast is really not into that much. There's
a couple of appearances here and there, but it's really about the new characters
so less so than like when Tobin Andrew show up, it's like, oh,
they're there for the whole third act. That first one not so much.
So it's like you have less characters, no original cast, but me
like, yeah they all met, Yeah they had. Yeah, they had
some interactions where it's like, okay, now there. If you need some
help in the future, give us a call. Or something. But that's
where it's so funny. With this one. They felt the need to have
them at least for the third act, especially dan Ackroyd. He's he's a
co star in this he has had so much screen time. That was something
that maybe surprised me a bit, where like the first time Paul Rudd and
dan Aykroyd are on screen together, paulrad has like no reaction to him existing,
and I'm like, shouldn't you be like fanboying? But I guess if
they met before, like maybe, but like it's weird. They don't even
have like a greedy and they're just like both in the background, like standing
there as other characters are talking. It was kind of bizarre. So I'm
definitely missing some context obviously because I haven't seen all of these movies. Yeah,
and I don't think this is the case because I don't think the MC
is different, But it feels like when we would learn in the MC,
like certain scenes where actors were not in the same shot at all, like
when Patista's like, yeah, I met Tom Holland that the Red Carpet the
first time they're in Roll in Finny were together, but it wasn't I don't
think that's the case here. I just think, like you said, there
were moments like that because there's so many. At one point they pant and
it's like a roster of like eleven people that are the Ghostbusters. I'm like,
oh my goodness. And I was like, someone has to die here,
right like, or at least get like all my ghost hunting days are
done after this movie. But it's just like, I don't know. Also,
when you took a drink for some reason, I thought you're going upside
down. I thought, oh, yeah, I have a glass that has
an orange lid like that. So I was like, oh my god,
I thought you're gonna spill like all over yourself. But yeah, no,
definitely, Yeah, come Halloween. Check them out. I don't know if
you need to answer the call. If you like those actresses, you could
check out that one. But it's not nothing. And notoriously, it's a
big debate with Ghostbusters to the original two of like if it's a fun time
or if it's a ship movie. It's a very fifty to fifty crap.
There was two back in the day in the eighties, right and then and
then The Full Time, then After Life and then this, Yeah, but
you would admit that there's lots of other really dislike that movie, right,
Ghostbusters too. Yeah, it's very it's in the middle there. But yeah,
so if you've not seen the movie and you're gonna go watch it,
then go away right now if you don't care, if you have now the
times, we're gonna take a quick atbreak and then we'll beat right back and
we're back. So, yeah, where do we want to start? Original
cast beginning villains or Taylor you have, I hear you, I want to
start on. It was a negative for me, but it was you highlighted
as a positive for you. The uh what was her name, Spangler,
the granddaughter Phoebe, Melity or Melanie or whatever, McKenna grace her. Oh
no, I thought you're going somewhere else in your mind, Melody's ghost girlfriend.
I thought he's gonna say he didn't like that. That is where I'm
going. Well, that's what I'm saying. The ghost his name is Melody
or something like that. It's the name of the diner or whatever. I
liked how we got the the the initial set up here her playing chess,
because I thought we were going to get Spangler being the one that played chess
with her. I thought that was really really clever too, and we want
to set up for Dylan. Yeah, in the first movie, her ghost
grandpa messes with her like that a couple of times, so that's why she's
kind of disappointed when the girl pops up and it's not her grandfather. So
yeah, and when the girl pops up, I thought, Okay, this
is interesting. But I didn't like how this ghost was just pretty much just
a total regular human being but just goest fire. They had fire, they
had fire too, but just ghost for him. I was a fan of
that. I feel like the connection could have been done where the person the
spirit is maybe a little more ghostly. And again, this I'm just maybe
over dwelling into it and over critiquing it. But this is just how I
feel going in and I saw this moment. This is the one thing that
I really wasn't connecting with in the scene. I get that she was feeling
lonely and she wanted to have a connection. So this character appeared at this
ghost and she forms that connection and they become really good friends. But I
like the twist where she is Phoebe is used by the main demon to get
what it wants. I like how that plays out, but just her,
this ghost girl being super friendly and super human like and chill. I wasn't
fond of that and just kind of like moving around like something wasn't there for
me. And in my perfect bubble, I would have probably had have her
be exactly the same, but maybe have her not even ay, don't even
give her really much dialogue, just have for like, just be very friendly
and expressionative and have that be the way of communication with with Phoebe Spangler.
I would have liked that a little bit more, And because I feel like
through facial expressions and through mannerisms she could have delivered everything that she was needing
to over dialogue. And I feel like just the dialogue from this ghost just
pulled me out of it. I didn't feel like she was a ghost.
I didn't feel like she was dead. I felt like, Oh, she's
just she's an actual person on the street. And when you compare her with
all the other ghosts that we've seen, we got a flying sea monster,
subway ghost like it's and that's that is very ghostbustersy, but even the librarian
lady that we see a callback to in this movie even that feels a little
bit different. There's just certain characters that of these ghosts that are well,
they're all very unique. I understand that. But even when Spangler popped up,
that was a very different key or key ghost moment, and he didn't
say a word. It was all And that's exactly what I would have liked
for this character too. See, that's where I'll push back. Spangler pops
up in the first movie The Grandfather. He looks exactly like her. He's
complete human form and he's just ghostly. The reason the guy doesn't talk because
the actor is dead. Like that's the only difference to me. I'll give
you that if Hiara Ramis was alive, that ghost would be talking out the
Ying Yang. So that's where true that that's not the scene that we got.
The scene that we got, like, she didn't say anything, and
they could have they could have added little they didn't target in a rogue one
they can add they were trying to avoid that though they're trying to like they're
trying to make it. You know. I thought the scene was wonderful in
that in Afterlife, and I think that it really adds a lot to the
fact that could Yeah, he didn't say anything. And I think that if
if this ghost ghost lady hadn't said anything and she was just like lighting her
match every so often, you just have like that really like quiet silence with
the mannerisms, and Phoebe would have been able to figure it out or whatnot.
I think all that would have been great. That's just how I would
have redone that scene. Like I said, I didn't like how too human
she was. I I didn't love it either, but I think I'm disliked
it for other reasons than you did, Taylor, So that's interesting. But
to me, like the chess scene was the peak of that relationship. That
was like the best, most intriguing scene between them. And then I think
as it went on it wasn't necessarily that their chemistry or something was off.
It was just that plot wise, things like weren't really making sense to me.
So maybe you guys can fill in some gaps on things that didn't make
sense to me, Like I mean when they when she sees her in the
diner and she doesn't shoot, that's a good moment too. I think that
one's nice. Yeah, And then I even like the scene that we get
after that, when she meets her at her apartment and then they're kind of
talking there. But I guess where some of my confusion comes in with this
is I didn't understand how Melody knew And what's the big bad's name? Like
Baraka or that's like street fighter character, so I can't call that character to
save you? Yeah, what what do you guys remember the name of this
big bad? I sent Garrick. But that's excellent. Notes are just they
just I just wrote big Bad because I couldn't. It's like it's like G
and B together. It's a arka did you google? That's what Google says
makes sense? How did Melody get Garaka's plan? Like? How how was
she wise to that plan? So I think there's a lot of So this
is me putting it all together, But I don't think I think in the
movie it's actually very thin. I think it's the Ghostbusters get said whatever circular
thing right from Kamel it's at the station, so the guy Garad Goka know
it's okay that thing's there. We need to get one of these humans they
go after, which I agree because there's one scene where the Phoebe's just complaining
and the line that Melody goes to that. Yeah, just sounds like they
just don't get you, Like it just sounds like the most like generic she's
up to. Yeah, she's up to something like this ghost like, why
does she even care this much? But I think that was the plan.
Ghostbusters have the sphere to open me up, So you gotta hit somebody there
that could do that. So you go after the person that's like lonely and
kind of dejected and kind of like the the black sheep of the family right
now, where she's alone a lot. And so that was the plan.
Balls at the Ghostbusters fire station gets on and open it. She's the easy
one, go after her. That's what I'm assuming. But again that's what
I explained. I don't I think more like, how does Melody and communicate
with Goroka? Well, Groca can control ghosts, right right, she did,
but not humans to do it. Yeah, so he can tell you
can like forced ghosts talk to other ghosts, that's what he can do,
or to people, not to people, No, not to people. But
he forced Melody to talk to because she Phoebe she's a ghost. Yeah,
so go even she's a ghost person, if you're a ghost and dead goaka
can talk to you and tell you to do things if you're a person can't
do anything, okay. And then the other thing with that is the the
scene when Phoebe goes to the lab, which, first of all, like
why the lab like is not walked at all, Like it's a very she
had a key card, she was able to get in with her key Okay,
she had a key card, her a card after all the times fucked
up in the city, So that'll be my backup complaint on that. But
I mean, I thought this whole scene was a little too cheesy for my
liking. But also I also didn't feel like it was quite set up that
like one, that that's how that device would work, and that she would
take that risk. It seems like she's the first person who's ever put herself
like that. She's the first person who's ever been in there, and it
seems really risky if all the ways to set up the contraption are outside and
she goes in this it just feels like, I don't know, such a
huge risk to take for like very little gain, and I didn't I feel
like it was set up very well. And then even just like the fact
that that's how Garaka would get out of his cage, is by embodying like
the ghost of specifically a human. It just felt like they had that was
like they wrote that part first, and then they had to backpedal their way,
like they had to do the maze or reverse way to figure out how
a way to make that action make sense, because it just didn't really work
for me. I don't know if it'd be nitpicky or from your guys' understanding
the lord, if that makes more sense, but I didn't feel like that
was really set up for me to understand. Well, well, I mean
like possession has been like a big thing, I guess in these movies you
see, I mean you see it in pretty much every single one actually some
sort of possession, and this was different in terms of possession. But I
really liked it. I can't agree with you though. I couldn't see that
being that they wrote this this narrative of her jumping out of her body into
her like spiritual state, and then then backtrack and thinking, oh, well,
this is this is a really good idea. Let's let's see what we
can do with that. And maybe that's why I don't like the setup and
the introduction of this this ghost girl with Phoebe and how they executed it.
But because that scene when she gets possessed, I wasn't expecting them. And
I really like that twist when her her spiritual version was possessed and then she's
talking and it's talking through her real body about man, this is really fucking
cool and I like that a lot. But yeah, the lead up to
it, I agree there was some there was something missing there, so okay,
so a lot was said there to push so on Taylor, I guess
I can't agree on the non talking thing. I think the pro the I
think the problem. What I like and what I don't like about this is
it's doing the classic Hollywood thing where, in my opinion, they're not trying
to make it a friend. They're trying to make it like a love interest.
They're trying to make it that she is like attracted to her. So
one, Tya, that's why you need Quost Girl and not you know,
dishovel library Lady, because she's not gonna fall for the library lady. You
gotta like have some on r age. Yeah, so re label and someone
like that's, oh, just my body's on fire. You know even her
body it's like, well it's on fire, but it's not like mangle at
all. But I think for me that's where the talking. I don't think
you'd get that connection with just the looks. If it was just like a
helpful ghost or something like that, you could. But this idea to have
Phoebe want to maybe have some sort of connection with her, so she's gonna
like put her soul out there. That's why I think you do need her
to talk. I think my I can't say my issue because I think my
issues are similar to you guys. At the end scene, I just didn't
boy because I cause there's so much going on in the movie. Why does
she need to I guess I know she says like, oh, I want
to feel like you do, but just like nothing's really gonna change. I
feel like between you two, like it's like it's a ghost talking with a
person, Like I guess you can just be ghostly together. But it's for
two minutes, right, it'd be different it was some longer thing, not
that they would go this way, but it'd be different if like she was
gonna try and to like end her life like something like they didn't Casper back
in the day, like and again, I don't think they do that nowadays
in these movies, and there's good reasons why because you don't want to promote
that, right. So I just didn't feel like for the two minutes it's
worth like what what you gonna do? Like like you're just still gonna talk
and then I don't know, I guess maybe you'll hold hands because you know
they're not gonna kiss me. You can hold hands as ghosts. Like I
didn't buy the reasoning. I didn't buy the relationship because they do have multiple
talks, but it wasn't long enough there. They weren't together enough for me
to buy her to take that risk. And to me, it is a
big thing just to do, oh yeah, I'm just gonna do this for
two minutes and whatever. You know, it just feels like even a thing
like I don't know if that should be something access to everybody as well,
Like we talked about adults versus kids, like that's a I feel like something
can go wrong and everything. So there's aspects I liked to it. I
liked that it was something I was not expecting of this movie. I was
not expecting this human have this relationship with this ghost. I think this was
a fun dynamic. And yet, like you said, I really liked that
diner scene where because I was not expecting that. I was expecting the twists
of the possession, but I was not expecting her to be at the diner
and once where it's like, oh, this is a very fun dynamic of
you know, usually you just suck up the ghosts and that's it, right,
but this is like we're hearing the ghost story and it's not a ghost
that wants to take over the world because they've been wrong. It's just they're
hanging on, right. And does she want to put her newfound friend or
maybe love interest in a jar? No, So there's aspects I liked of
it, but I can definitely just say there's there's some clunk around, and
I think how we get to the possession part is is tough because even like
Tara says, I know every ghost is different, but it is tough when
you've had at least if we're in this con nudy I can't remember too but
at least four people we know have been possessed. It's just strangely like,
why can't he find any way just to possess her without having to have like
her body spirit come out and then get the thing for two minutes. It's
just like I would almost just think it's easier for Melody to lead her into
a trap, right, like only going to show you where I died,
and when you get their action is not where I died Boom like Garrett or
whatever Garaka like. I thought there was many easier ways to get to this
point, and I know that the ghost but the ball has to be there.
But that's what you can do, is a writing, like Dylan says,
you work backwards, right, so you do something where maybe she has
it for some x Y reason. So I like the story. It's not
without its issues, but I liked it because I think it's the most unique
thing of the movie where the rest of the movie has like it's kind of,
you know, just simial themes of or attack action scenes that we've seen
in other stuff. So I liked it. But yeah, I don't think
you guys are wrong with some stuff. I do think for me, I
think she had to talk because I don't know if you could get to this
reaction where she's like hugging her mom crying at the end, if you don't
talk, I guess. But and if she doesn't talk, then I think
the whole movie would have to be Phoebe in her because you'd have to have
like a Wallly situation where you'd need like at least an hour of these characters
with no dialogue to really bond together. You know where they have how many
scenes in total they got the beginning, the diner, they meet in the
streets, she gets tricked, and then they say goodbye. It's five or
six scenes. It's not that and they're not all long scenes, right,
so it's pretty pretty minor. Yeah. Another another question, just and this
is probably more of a just ghost of Buster's lower question is like they make
a big point of how Melody is a ghost, I forget the term for
it is, But one that can like interact with the physical world. Is
that like very uncommon because it seems like a lot of them can do that,
like mess with physical objects. That's a you question, Taylor, Like
there's even the guy up in the attic and he's eaten cheetos sym physical objects.
Honestly, I think all the ghosts that we've seen can interact with physical
objects. The librarian is the first ghost we ever see in Ghostbusters. She's
reading books. She's moving books around like they just bump into the rare ones
in the movies. That's why they just keep bumping into the rare ones.
It's never the none rarely yeah, good luck. Yeah, which is which
made me wonder why Melody you didn't like crack open the ghost h tank in
the in the Ghostbusters home Well, they had to say something. They had
to say the curse words or whatever, the spell or what tank you talking
about, Like they think that all all had all the ghosts. Yeah,
yeah, I guess so. Yeah, they still needed someone to say that
stuff for the ball for Garaka to get up. But yeah, you could
have just had her pull the lever and ghost start going, well you come
back later and do that or something. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
I don't know, yeah, because she just kind of disappears when she's like,
oh, well, I'm gonna be the next world. When they were
talking about how she can deal with the physical world, whatever it was,
that that would be a thing she was gonna do. Considering how much time
was spent on that tank in this movie and almost getting busted open several times,
and in the matter of when the finale was. And it's fine because
it's I won't say it's a kid. I mean it's a family movie,
but it kind of has those contexts where she makes the big heel turn,
but then it's like, I don't know ten minutes later where I completely forget
that, you know, and then and then she's helping the good guys out.
So I wish there's even like a day or like a day night cycle
where they've got the night time they've been done all day. Just feels like
and again, well it's odd because I was gonna say, oh, that
ghost is a kid, but she says like, oh, I'm like a
six year old woman in like the six year old body, like they kind
of make mention of she feels older. Then she looks right. So I
just felt it a little very easy for her to do that and then pretty
much right away be like this was a mistake. I guess you can see,
like it's to me, I guess I can't see, because my point
was being, oh, you see the family is getting hurt and people dye.
Maybe you change your mind. But it's just like this ghost she's been
talking to the whole movie, like the Garaka like he's not a good looking
ghost and like I guess he says he's gonna freeer, but it sounds like
like I just feel like there's I wish they almost made Garaka some sort of
different form for her, and I don't know if it was, but they
didn't show them in the movie, right. I just don't know how you
look at this guy and what he's wanting you to do and not think,
you know, things are gonna get really bad, like are you were?
Is it worth you doing all this stuff and dying? But I don't know,
It's just a little thing she comes and says to day. I thought
it was a fun thing though, that she had the one match and that
was the payoff, So I thought that was a fun moment. I liked
that. So mm hmmm, where do we want to go next? Well
speaking, I want to ask, because you know, I feel like we're
fans, but you know it isn't pop all the time. Speaking of that
match a moment, how do you guys feel about the fire Master himself?
Qumil and non Johanni. At first, he starts off he's the sphere guy,
ball guy. He just sells it at first. The scenes like Oh,
he's just kind of an idiot, but then he realized there is something
kooky going on there. He kind of pops through that movie where they gotta
get him, they gotta interview him. I actually did like all the sex
dungeon jokes. I thought that was like, actually good charisma with a couple
actors, And then we get this whole story about his family lineage was protecting
kind of like we were talking about, it's not just sci fi, it's
also fancy where they's just like these fire gods or firepowered people that have powers
to protect the world from these ice demons and destroy them and everything. So
what do you guys think about Camel and just that storyline of yeah, these
fire and ice sort of demons are god people fighting back and forth. When
we got more into the lore of it, I was I was just surprised.
I didn't think that was something that Ghostbusters like that was part of the
lore or the capable. I don't know, that wasn't like a capability within
the lore of this world. So I was pretty surprised by it. I
think in terms of the humor, it didn't hit all the time, but
it was probably like a good seventy percent of the time for his character bad.
So yeah, I think it was maybe just a bit too cheesy,
which is maybe weird because this movie feels like it's intentionally cheesy at times,
but then it also feels like super serious, So I'm not exactly sure.
Like I get the vibe that the original one is like a cheesy movie,
but maybe I'm wrong about them. The original one, i'd say is it's
the most serious out of them. I feel like that one has more the
most dead pen humor out of all than where the sequel and all of them
kind of got a bit more I don't know, jokey or comedic or and
I won't say goofy because goofy sometimes has a bad connotation, but kind of
like that. But the first one, I feel like it's written as a
horror movie, and because the comedians or the actors, you get they kind
of brought in some of their Bill Murray's humor, Dan Akrotz humor. So
I feel like that they started as more deadpen but it's gone a bit more.
Uh. And I would say quippy either, because I feel like,
now these are like bad terms and stuff because we always use quippi as but
definitely a bit more jokey, i'd say on the nos jokes as far as
like we're gonna do a bunch of riffs on this sex, or riffs on
his auntie and her his Graham and their lack of relationship, or or you
know, yeah, yeah, but no, I think I think he was
fun for the most part. I really liked the mystery around the orb that
we were dealing with for a lot of the movie. I just thought it
looked really cool. I like that sometimes it would start popping off and then
it would just like, I don't gaining a ton of mass and crash through
like a glass surface or whatever it was doing. So I thought he was
a fun character. So he was in it a lot more than I thought
he would be, based on his first scene when he walks in and into
the pawn shop there to sell that stuff. It's fun to have more of
him throughout. So yeah, I thought it was fairly successful. Yeah,
did you like the fire Masters? I absolutely love this character a lot more
than I was expecting to. Madison was just having a great time every time
he popped up on screen because he was just he was really freaking funny.
Have you guys watched The Big Sick Ever you two together me and Taylor,
Yeah, yeah, you too, and then also Taylor Madison. If you're
watching A Big Sick you should watch it. That's the movie that put him
on the map. But it's really good. It's a comedy about him and
he goes on two gate dates with this girl and the second date she just
like collapses and goes into a coma. It's a real story about how he
met his wife. Ray Ramono's in it. Yeah, it's and his wife
co wrote it. Definitely, both of you check it out. It's really
if you like, if you watch this, you're like, oh, I
really can comel He leads the whole thing. One of my favorite rom coms.
Definitely check it out. Yeah, definitely, it's worth the time because
it's he just shines there. Ray Ramond's really funny too. Holly Hunters in
there. So did you tune into it? Because Ray Ramono, you know,
like it was just the buzz. It was one of those a lot
of it was a festival Darling movie of like and that idea of like this
is how he met his wife, Like could you imagine you going? Like
they were liking each other. But the second date you go on with this
girl, Like that's what happens. He takes through the hospital and he's like,
what's her last name? Like I don't know, what's the phone?
Like I don't know, he knows nothing, because it's just like it's the
second date. But in real life they've been married ever since and they're still
together today. So it's a very fun story. So sry trippy. Yeah,
but you guys were digging the fire Masters here and here at the screen.
Yes, we're really digging the fire Master. I as soon as he
comes on screen and he's working with with like dan Aykroyd's character Race Stance,
and he's, uh, dan Ackroyd's just looking at it, and he starts
rambling off about it and he just he mum mumbles under his breath like oh
sixty, he's just raising the price up. And then is what does dan
Akhreids says like do you mind if I h I scan it with my so
and so, And then he's like, oh, yeah, you're you know,
lots of people want to do it, and you're the first one to
ask ask me for permission to do it. He's just he's really really funny
with everything he's got going on. And when he comes down the firepole and
he's wearing his armor two, I'm just laughing because it was just such a
funny thing to see. Yeah, he's just he's really really good in the
in that, And I'm glad that he came back because I really thought he
was done. But when he came back afterwards and he's talking about, yeah,
I'm a certified, like licensed shoe salesman. You know you got the
you got? Would you fit into a size eight? All that kind of
stuff was really really working for me. But the object itself, I really
thought that was cool. I really really did. I like that it was
this ancient tool to basically harness and keep this evil locked up in there.
He looked very hell Raiser, like, not as Crimson, but like always
had some sort of item with you click one thing. And I thought one
too many times that people that were getting their hands frozen holding this thing should
have lost the hands of the fire and fighter. At the beginning, Frost,
I thought, his hand, oh yeah, his hand his hand was
yeah, But he was back. Next scene, like moving around a shock,
thought, Man, how's this guy still alive with this hell I thought,
yeah, I thought it was coming off though, because I was like,
oh, man, like I didn't think it was gonna be brutal,
but I was the guy. I got the girls with me, like what's
this going to be like? And luckily they just pulled them. So I
was thankful as a parent. But in real life, it's like, no,
like he'd lose something, at least some skin, but he'd clean he
would he makes some more. Absolutely. But yeah, that that whole intro,
that was fantastic. I love the callback to the O G Ghostbusters Firehouse
there and just being in like the back in a few decades ago, in
in that that time period with them just trying to understand like, oh what
is this? What is this going on here in this building and you have
the whole auction room is frozen. It was so cool, such a very
cool set piece. Really really like that. But yeah, that's that's where
I think Garrek was such a cool looking villain. I really liked how he
was just Roca Grek's the man who killed Xavier the next mine he said ship,
Yeah, the racist slash prejudge. He's definitely not That would have been
crazy if he showed up. Yeah, there, Marble's like, we want
Spider Man, and then some of the marl was like, who do you
want so and he's like, oh, you know that Garret guy from X
Men. Give him to us for our next Ghostbusters movie. Yeah, I
think I think that they knocked out of the park with that character and with
the object that was rid of really cool. There's something else is gonna say
about it, but I can't remember one quick thing here before we moved too
far away from these characters. But McKenna grace, I didn't realize that she
played Phoebe. She was actually in Annabelle everything she's if you look up her
credits, she I mean, and I'm looking up to stay. She was
young Captain Marvel, she was like young, but she was young whatever the
character's name is, malignant. She has like a bunch of credits where she's
always the young version of that. So her agent did a very good job
while she was growing up. But yeah, she's done so many of young
contexts name and it's it's good to see her doing her because she was really
good in the first one. I think she's really good here. I think
she's somebody that is good, like like I like finnwolf Hard and maybe Just
is gonna be a different type of movie and even stranger things. But it's
like I feel like, you know, like I kind of know what he
can do or with Grace, like, oh, I feel like she's gonna
go on to do other things that aren't just go busters and be really impressive
in them. So I'm hoping we get to see those things. But yeah,
she has a lot of credits and whatnot, and yeah, I like
her character in both movies. I think she's a relatable I can't say,
Okay, maybe I shouldn't say relatable because I actually couldn't relate to this person
at all as far as liking science. But it's a ghostbuster. It's a
person that you would want you you would like to meet, or you would
you don't get annoyed by I'm not because like, oh, it's the main
character. I'm supposed to like this person. I feel like you actively like
them. I think they do a good job. At the beginning of saying,
you know because she's under age, right away, it's like she's the
best ghostbuster. She knows everything, she's most qualified, but because her age,
she can't do it. And I feel like for young people like now,
I'm not young, but like of that age that happens a lot,
right where you're told you can't do X, Y and Z until you're this
age. So I think it's like a relatable thing, but replacing it with
ghosts, which is you know, smart for the movie Ghostbusters to do.
So yeah, her, so we're counter part here, the ghost Girl.
Do you recognize what she has also been in in that new Beverly Nino two
whatever or not? No new what is it? Something girl? Gossip girl?
Because I know there she did like a bunch of sex scenes there because
Emily's always watches, like what's going on here? She was also in Doctor
Sleep. Yeah, she plays one of the girls that is part of uh,
what's her name, Rebecca Person's camp there. So yeah, she's the
babysitter too, so she's she's in like a few right, she was in
the Babysitter. Yeah, a good little ensemble cast here and sin Wolfard picking
up a nice check. You know, he's he wants to drive and he
wants to get pretty in his band like pretty much like and that is the
good thing because that kid's probably made banks as long as you're smarting their money.
Dude, you're fine, but that is his story is catching Slimer and
he wants to drive you know, even the because dyl like you probably picked
up the girl that's like the intern that's kind of like his love interest in
the first movie. And when they met up, I'm like, oh,
they're gonna pick up on this and start going even more into it, but
not really. It's just kind of like, hey, I like you,
I like you. And then friends, they're just yeah there, and I
think they may best friends just because like, well, we don't have time
to make them like a romantic couple. But I thought, Okay, he's
gonna be more into the plot here. And again, there's lots of people
that are in the movie a lot, but the problem is they're just standing
around or there's a scene where it's like what's his name, like pannell Oswald's
gonna give you fifteen minutes exposition, So characters are in the room with them,
but they're not doing much. But hey, good for Finnie. And
I liked all the Slimmer scenes. I had to enjoyment of him trying to
catch them, and I actually really liked the payoff of that's how they got
rid of parasite was or what was it the possessor when it possessed the pizza
and it's going off the edge and slimmer because I did not see it coming
at all, and I know that guy line. I was like, Okay,
I appreciated it paid off for me in the long run. So yeah,
I wish he had a bit more to do. Yeah, he's always
He's always good. And I feel the same way about Paul rud I wish
he had more going on in this movie, but he, yeah, like
we said, kind of takes a back seat for a while there. But
I like this. I like this kind of subplot of becoming you know,
becoming the dad, becoming a stepdad, really embodying that. You get that
cute moment at the end where she calls him dad and he's trying to,
you know, be harder on her, which he does successfully and unsuccessfully at
different times. So I think he has some fun stuff to do in there.
I wish I wish he just had like a little bit more. I
guess there's a couple of things I would have maybe cut in order to get
a couple more scenes of them, or maybe just connections between other characters that
we didn't really get a lot of, But in general, I like the
just family moments between them. Like I really like the opening scene, or
maybe not quite the opening scene, because that's the New York flashback, I
think is the opening. But then their first battle against the the sewer Dragon
of Hell's Kitchen or whatever they called it was really fun. But all just
their dynamic is really great there. And even when they're back in the house
and Paul Rodzi, hey, watch my beans, and it goes downstairs and
fins up there. Just like continuing with dinner, I just thought all the
the chemistry was really good between all of them us where I just went,
there's maybe a little bit a little bit more going on. Well that's what
you're saying. Like, even to me, the whole family dynamic, I
really like that, but it is just there's a scene of her being nice,
the mom says, has Hey be harder. There's one scene where he
struggles it, the next scene he's hard on her, and then the next
thing they resolve it. It's very just like one two step like it's friends
in Boxes. Yeah, exactly right, where it's like I feel like you
can still get fifteen minutes out of that stuff, right, or even what's
his relationship with Trevor? Like like that's just like non existence. She says
about the kids, but it's not really about the kids. It's just about
Phoebe. And they have that one moment where he talks on the door and
everything. But yeah, like that's all I need more because I think that
is a fun dynamic of hey you I liked the conversation they had where hey,
do you like I could do that, but I didn't think it was
my place. And I guarante you many stepparents had that conversation of okay,
when you do marry into a family, where is the line? And this
is that moment of okay, he's you know, getting closer to being you
know, a step dad, whatever it may be. And she's given that
permission. Any same thing with the mom. I like Kerry Koon, and
she could have been that more talking with the daughter this everything, because the
dad is not like dead. The dad's just like a deadbeat dad. So
I feel like there could be I think when it's the dad's dead, not
to sound whatever, but that would be almost easier because you have no choice
but to move on. But I feel like that would be a thing of
like, oh, should I trust and kind of love another dad like figure
when we already have a dad that's like doesn't give a shit about us,
Right. So I think there's like lots there with the mom TV everything you
could pull apart, but I think they kind of want this one to be
like a summer blockbuster, which fair enough, but I think you can.
That's that's where I think movies that have the both elements and can hit more
in the heart. You'll remember that in thirty months from now thirty maybe yeah,
maybe thirty yeah, maybe thirty months from now may you will. Right,
there's stuff we remember all the time, past years. Yeah. And
the only thing I didn't mention is the Firemaster. Comel is just like I
don't know, feta cheese on most foods that's maybe not breakfasts, like I'll
take fit. I'll take Comel anywhere, like there's any time I never he's
on every meal. I'll maybe take it back. But I like that aches
like I feel like all the meals like pasta, pizza, a little z
on you like, all the meals you could put feeda on and it adds
to it. That's what Kamel is and yeah, cereal. So he's not
good in every movie, but you really want him in thirty percent of movies.
Here's the thing. Actually, I'll keep with the Feta. Maybe the
meal is not good, but Feta is always good. And that's what Camille
say, Like he could be a movie the same thing Eternals like. I
don't love Eternals, but I like him a lot in it. I liked
him enough. I think he was in one of the mental blacks. I
think right. He was the voice of a character like I always like him,
and I think they did. My favorite joke was when he went to
do like the whole one line with the lighter and it didn't work. It's
like, okay, that worked for me. So yeah, it's almost one
of the characters that I wish was in it more because other than a few
times, he also was just mostly just there for comedy relief, which is
fine, that's what Kamel does, but you get him affiliate with the team
a little bit more. But I enjoyed him, and I enjoyed I always
have those type of concepts and ghostbusters so work for me. I liked the
whole telling of it with the like uh, like the kind of murals pan
als. Well we're talking over it was they transforming and stuff. So yeah,
no, it all. It all worked for me because I like sometimes
when they introduce these high concepts, that's when you get lost. But I
don't care about this at all. But I like to fire Master. I
like the Protectors, I like to the jokes. I like Camel, so
he's easy pass for me on that one for Camel. So oh yeah,
let's see give Firemaster his own spinoff film. I don't know if it'll justify
its own spinoff film, and I feel like they his only mission is to
destroy Goaka and that stuff. But hey, the guy, i'd understand,
you know, if you may, maybe you got a better chance of coming
back. But Camel is a great guy. So yeah, I don't know
if I need the spinoff necessarily. But yeah no, I well, I
was just gonna say, I think my favorite I guess ghost you'd call it
is the Possessor in this I think is just super funny. It kind of
has like the yon do needle sort of effect the way it like jumps from
things to thing. But I just thought they got so creative with that,
and it was like in this movie a lot, and then of course like
in the containment tank, jumping between like the lamp and the vacuum and all
these things. But then when it's in the apartment or going through the city.
I just thought that was a really fun ghost to see. Gay looked
great on it. And it also was like, to me, that was
more intimidating than Garaka because it's like, yeah, the fuck do you catch
this thing? And it's like the proton pack. I didn't feel like it
went in all that stuff. And when when the car, it's like,
oh, I don't think they've ever made like the car evil, So it's
like, oh, this is like an easy, really cool thing to do.
The headlights are ran, it's like oh yeah, yeah. At the
end of the day, like they really couldn't catch it, like as you
mentioned, like yeah, the other ghost kind of cabs it up, kind
of had to trick it in some way. So yeah, I thought that
was a very fun thing. I also maybe quick Nippick is in the in
the lab, the secret ghost lab that they're building, they really like a
backup generator or something. That seems like a total miss that all these ghosts
are being contained a small electric field, and uh yeah, they don't have
a back up, especially when they're like testing things that could blow the fuse
at any moment. Huge, huge risks that they're taking there with that one
really scary ghost in the dark cave room. There lots of risks in general,
like they didn't have a great plan like which this was the first time
they revealed what happens to all the ghosts and they catch them that they're just
gonna just sitting in New York hanging out. But even then it's like,
that's not a not a great idea, the one wrong thing, as we
saw in this movie Pandemonia, evenough not many people died except for that was
another joke I did, like, Yes, someone did, that was one
joke I did also like. But rolled bys at the same time as Karaka
busts out and he goes to this convenience shop. He says, are you
the fire Master, and the guys I'm the fire Master. Clearly it's some
pot store that probably says fire master or something like that, and then over
the top fire masters. Okay, so there you go. So yeah,
Melody's whole conscious of crisis thing did cost that guy his life. The fire
master we deal er guy. So he did die, yes, sadly because
you've he was frozen and then he hit him and then he was pieces,
so rip, he's done for Yeah, let's take our next ad break and
then Taylor can talk to us about who he wants to tell us. We're
back, and we're back, mister Field trying to remember I was going to
talk to you guys about talking about fire matter, talking about the ghosts in
the basement, the generator science. I like that line actually from from Melmets
when she's she's like they were talking about the generator and they're like, oh,
you guys didn't think like what would happen if I got full or whatever.
I think it was this context of this scene where she's like always the
eighties and no one was caring about the future or anything. Who is she?
What is the four one one on her? She was the secretary for
the Ghostbusters in the first film, and then she came back in the second
one, and she's an afterlife as well. Yeah, and they they weren't
like a married couple, but her the grandfather did also have a dating relationship
at one point too. Yeah, So no familiar bonds or anything. But
yeah, they did have a relationship. And then the investor guy, like
the guy who was setting this all up and I can't remember his name,
was he a Ghostbuster? He was on the being squad there, which I
appreciated that. I know some people might not like dumb movie logic, but
I just like that since then he's gone mega rich and that's how they do
everything right, because even at one point Paul, right at the beginning,
he's like, oh, you're getting paid for this, and so I was
like, none of us are getting paid or so the kids are talking about
not getting paid and everything right, and I was happy that was not a
storyline me, because it's something they've done Ghostbusters before, is they like charge
field money and stuff like I didn't need, like oh, and they're also
struggling for money in this movie. I just like that the rich guy's just
like, go get the ghosts. That works for me sometimes the movies.
All I need is the one dumb answer, thank you, let's move on.
I don't need the funding storyline to take up fifteen minutes. So he's
got some funny lines in the original, especially because they're like the mayor in
this film, he's actually the head of the Environmental Protection Agency in the first
film. So he's the guy who's trying to get the Ghostbuster shut down,
and he hates the Ghostbusters. And so it comes full circle here now that
he's the mayor and so that he's trying to that's why he hates the Ghostbusters
so much. They brought back the guy that like is I don't know if
he was a security guy or works at the library. Remember dan Aykher was
like, Oh, I hope I never see you again. And so when
they entered the library, so there's a lot of callbacks. I was gonna
ask you to you with the library ghosts, which I do like the library
ghosts. But if they know that ghosts in there, how come they have
not gone to get that ghost It's a pretty scary ghost. A very good
question. I don't know. It's the same reason why they didn't get like
Slimer. I guess. Yeah, they can't catch Slimer, though they don't
really try that hard. Finnwolfar was trying the whole movie. Yeah, but
they just they just send like the incompetent kid to deal with it. Well,
because one kr Kun didn't know was up there too. It's like always
DoD he's not haunting what they did. He was like, hey, I
need help with this thing, and she's like, you're an adult, you
can do it, so she knows. I don't think she did. I
think he just said something's wrong on that attic and she was tired to say,
oh, your adult figured out. I don't think she was a ghost.
But if they did, know what's to go Slimish, he's just to
eat, like he's not haunting anybody. He's just there to eat. Well,
that's worse, though. I'd rather be haunted. You know how much
hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of food money they're losing. But sometimes
when you're haunted, that leads to death. So you'd rather have the chance
of deck andooping on his bed, like spilling through the roof onto his bed.
You'd be okay with that. Just get some of those like plastic sheets
that they put over couches and stuff. Every day, you know, rinse
and repeat. You're gonna do that every day if you're I like Slimer,
it seems like a cool guy. But if you yeah, but imagine you
know, we do the charity stream and you're you're super protected, like my
food and my fridge that this is mine, you can't eat it. This
fucker doesn't give a shit. He's eating all your food. Yeah, but
clearly upstairs he's finding other people's foods. He didn't touch cheetos. I don't
know about he didn't touch pins cheetos Until you get it with him again.
I'll still take someone that takes my food over a ghost, like library ghosts
that may kill me. We've never seen what happens when the ghost gets you,
so I guarantee you the look of that ghost not friendly. Will interview
definitely alluded to it before because when he was in there starting the beans,
he grabbed a bag of his Cheetos and the bag tore open and he was
like something got in here again or something like that, So he was alluding
to food being eaten. I would never stick my finger in the roof like
he did. That was very risky. Yeah, they're not. He was
going real deep in there. Yeah. Not not the not not the move
I do either. But yeah, fun stuff there and he got to drive
the car at the end. So good for good for Trevor. One is
a pro and a con. You know. The thing that really grabbed me
the most. I'm very nitpicky on this review, and I apologize for that,
but that's just how I feel about the movie. I So the biggest
thing about the trailer that really grabbed me was just like the disaster movie,
like ice Part, like that seemed like really fun to me, but that
was like I feel like every one of those shots was like in the trailer,
like there wasn't really much of it when when that happens, And I
was also I was shock that that wasn't like very early on, I thought
that would be like first act setting, the scene of the villains in town,
We're gonna go after him, So I was very surprised that I was
like kicking off like the end of Groca here getting down to it. So
I guess that made sense, But yeah, I guess I just wanted a
bit more that because I thought it all looked really cool and it was really
fun, and the trailer really made it to be like a big deal and
it just didn't really seemed to matter a whole lot and there wasn't a ton
of scenes there. But I was also just a bit confused that, like
isn't Caroco the one who like spawns the ice like from his presence, so
like, why is it rolling in through it from like a storm like over
the sea. It didn't that literally made sense to me. Maybe that's very
nippicky, but I can't answer that one. I'm just assuming hopping off with
powers. But yeah, I thought I didn't think the whole movie w'd being
nice because it's not enough of the trailers. I at least thought the whole
third act would be And so I might be like, well, it is
no to me, like the final battles in Ice not the third act.
So I think there was a fun movie where you got like, I don't
know what's the fucking car the bustermobile called Taylor, and I know it has
a specific name. You don't know either either way, Like there's I feel
like there's lots of cool stuff that you do that car on the icy roads
and all these characters in big jackets, lots of other mobile actomobile, Like
I think there's lots of things they could have done with the extended But yeah,
I just felt like again, uh, Superhero or boss battle where they
throw down something in a video games like now this arena's ice, Like al
right, So I agree, I could use a little more frozen. Empire
maybe not the most accurate title for the movie. Yeah, no, I
don't know what it would be. You can't call empire because that's just Rokka's
wrath or something that doesn't roll. Oh yeah, it's a good name,
like you gets fire up. C that's a very yeah movie title. Like
what was that Jurassic something empire? Right? Like there is there an empire
Draassic movie? Wasn't there a Jurassic called something empire? Don't just scoop the
title? The next one Dominion Empire. No Jurassic City and it'll be in
Jurassic City was the rumored title. I think. Right, Yeah, that's
a cool title. Okay, I was confusing it with I already forgot.
They're also the Empire. Yeah whatever, you said something that the Empire strikes
back. But remember this one. This one's Empire because they're specifically in New
York, like Empire state of mind stuff like that. So I don't think
empire state building. Yeah, Empire state of Sorry what city? Empire state
of mind? Very popular jay z Alicia Key's song, But an empire state
building like it's Empire for New York. So frozen New York. I took
it as he was just trying to build a frozen empire. By two,
all the ghosts are. But to Dylan's point, it's it's frozen for half
an frozen for fifteen minutes, you know, like and and it was frozen.
The point where what annoyed me was they showed the effects of people getting
frozen and then everyone was gone. It's like the city had evacuated. That
would have made more sense of its frozen act too. And then it's like
we're putting a state emerchany get the hell out of New York whatever, or
if they know storm's coming. But just there's not a single person after we
see certain people like the Firemaster pot guy get killed in the cops, like
yeah, call, then it's just a cgi ghost town, which is not
a good way ghost town. Like just okay, this is all on a
machine somewhere and they're not going to animate people. There's really no there is
steakes because the whole family's getting frozen. Which can someone explain to me what
was Phoebe's gun? Was it just a bigger gun that's why I could affect
him? Okay, it was the same gun, but it's what she was
talking to Dan Eckward's character about, so certain spirits in this case, Garaka
was susceptible to brass or right, Okay, I remember she coded part of
a particle accelerator with the brass, which is I thought, fucking cool.
I love that. Yeah, like the sound I made it was cool,
like it was like the green. So yeah, I appreciate that because sometimes
the kiddo that miss some stuff. I remember them cut of the pole and
everything saying okay, that answered for me. I at first I was just
like, well, it's just bigger. Is that the thing? They seemed
a bigger whatever rifle? But no, I can buy that. And I
did like the moments too, for CGI wise when you freeze the streams and
then when they crashed and some of them were still like they're still like lit
in them, I was like, oh, that that's really fun. So
there was some that's again like some of the ice uff was fun. Some
of the spikes were looking a little little not there. But I wish there
was more time with the ice. So I agree with you on that point.
Though. There was a couple scenes where you do see some people out
there in the snow and whatnot. But once you get to the ghost Haul,
there's yeah, there's really nothing happening outside. Yeah, escetually, I'm
considered. I like it's a frozen empire. I feel like a lot of
those buildings doors just got frozen. Like I feel like they weren't a way
we'd just walk right back in your house, right, So I feel like
a lot of people couldn't get it back in buildings. What if they're frozen
in their car, they're frozen, like I feel like we didn't even see
Like New York, I don't know, but I feel like, at least
in America, maybe the most busy place in the world. It was eight
time when this happened. Why isn't there like a bunch of frozen bodies in
the streets standing there? I don't think there really was. It's just dead
like New York. I was there for only a week, and it's never
not busy at any time in New York. So Garreck has coming. Garaka
is gonna be out there real quick. Yeah, well, and that's why
again, like you could have had a second act. And but it's fine.
It's it's a little thing, but yeah, frozen for a day Empire.
I understand Rick moranis he's he's got his priorities, and I totally respect
his his change in direction after after what happened in his personal life. It's
just it's it's incredible, But dang, I know that. I think they
tried really hard to get him in here. It would have been so cool
just to see like a little cameo or something in there. But honestly,
at the end of the day two movies with them, I'm totally happy.
We got Sigourney Weaver and that credit scene in The After Life barely yeah,
but they went filmed there for twenty minutes to call that, oh yeah,
check for ten grand. It must be nice. But all in although,
I'm I love seeing the whole roster of Ghostbusters that we got in here.
When when Garca was going through the doorway entering in and you just see like
ten of them all with the proton packs just fired them off, Like man,
this is cool. It's a whole little mini army of Ghostbusters. I'm
really digging this. They all got different color uniforms. Some of them got
the black jump suits, someone got the o G beige ones, and then
like red snow suits on too. It was just so cool to see all
the different oh shit, all the different just customizable options. It just made
me think, liked be cool to get a game like this. I never
played the Ophonic Ghostbusters game, so I don't have anything to comment on that,
but I know they've released some other Ghostbusters titles in the past, but
it's still live. As far as I know, it's still getting updates.
Tonight, boys Fire, I was dropping elsewhere running from Gorocca. Yeah,
I thought they all held their right a mount of screen because, like I
said, it's usually I don't like Bill Murray, but I think what they
had him in for was a good enough time. The only thing I like,
legitimately, I really did not like. I did not like the scene
him and Kamel had. I did not find that funny at all. And
again I always sit there like, like, I don't like Bill Murray,
he's hurt Bill Murray's humor. But I just thought this just wasn't a funny
scene in general of him just chucking stuff at him, And I was like,
this is callback I think to to what was it the second one?
Oh whatever they called back to They called back to pain because it wasn't working
for me, it was a long It was like only a minute scene,
but I was sitting there like, man, this joke needs to end.
But that's the stuff. And he finds the whiskey, like okay, this
this all works. He's in there enough for me not to be too annoyed,
so the whiskey was funny. The scene that he does in the original
is he's got a guy and a girl and he's being furtatious with the girl
because she's getting she's He's basically pulling up a card and they have to guess
what the card is, and the guy's getting all of them right, and
so he keeps shocking the guy and the girl keeps getting them all wrong,
and he's like, oh you did, you did, You got a right
good job. So I think it fits with his character to do the last
movie, though this is the reverse member he was in the machine. I
guess I just don't need this machine and it was Sigourney but that's fine.
But yeah, I thought they used them all well enough back where it was
in there. The most they try to give him like some mini arc of
you know, he wants to be doing this in his sixties, but I
just feel like it was like a couple of lines between two characters, and
that's our Ernie Hudson paid for that role, probably a lot, even though
he probably filmed it at least high at least at least six figures, yeah,
which is crazy to think. I'm gonna say seven. They're enjoying their
goal and you know what, and that's it's not big Ghostbusters fan. I
thought that was a fun fan service moment where he tried to pull a lever
and couldn't, and so you get the whole gang together, all their hands
on one lever trying to pull down like okay, that I think that's some
really good, like heartwarming the team working together one last time to well,
who knows, one last time, but it could be yeah, well last
ride. But I thought that worked. So yeah. I love dan Ackroyd.
I really love him in the Ghostbusters movies and I miss seeing that.
That's probably why I like the first and the second so much. Is dan
Arkroyd's character with Egan Spangler. I really like their their chemistry together. They're
really really awesome, and dan Akward is just an awesome character person just in
general. I was the side tangent he's had Bigfoot Encounters UFO Encounters the Man.
Oh yeah, he's got stories to tell. It's he's incredible human being.
We'll get him in one of our movies for sure, and then we'll
hook you two up figures. Yeah please second movie, go support When we
put that on patron, please go support that. I was happy with the
amount we made, but it was no six figures. So yeah, but
yeah, no, there you. I like the little marshmallow dudes, sadistic
marshmallows, which just feels like we're gonna sell a bunch of these. That's
just fast. One of those things. Yes, but I thought they were
very fun and with their kind of like the one at the very end in
like the I guess mid credit scene that just like puts the like cigarette lighter
like this face. I thought that was, and then the one like sticking
its arm in the pencil sharpener. They were. They were cute and fun
and got the job. Then I felt, yeah, my theater gasped at
the cigarette lighter to the face and we're like, oh my god, so
yeah, a few moments its eyes. Yeah, and I also don't think
they're like over exposed, and then may think they're in there enough they get
introduced into the afterlife, doling like these little versions of them, so they're
kind of like a carryover. So yeah, same thing. I think both
times they've been used sparingly. So mm hmmm, uh, what do you
guys think of podcast? I have surprised how much he fucking grew seeing from
the first one, like, man, that kid, he he grew like
he's just such a little kid three years ago and now like I know because
I have kids. But it's tough because I feel like you can't have Dan
like the joke of Dan Ackroyd being a pot podcast or I don't think you
could have that alone because you'd have some assistant character anyways, and say,
yeah, he is from the first one, it's a similar bit where he's
kind of annoying kid, So I get why you have to bring him over.
But at the same time, if we were to have a list of
three characters we had to lose, he might be like the he's in the
bottom three for sure. I don't know if he's the draft one draft too,
because I think that blonde scientist guy who had a couple of fun jokes
to get rid of him, you could get rid of. There was another
I think employee around there, But podcasts would be pretty low to go as
far as characters that need screen time. But you know nothing, And I
don't think it's the actor. I think he does a fine job, the
kid actor rights. I had nothing to do with him just for writing wise,
they don't give me anything to care about really, So I like the
one scene that him and dan Acwood had when they're doing the podcast section with
the you know, scanning the ladies watch and then just smash it anyway.
I thought that was funny. But other than that, his humor didn't really
work for me. I didn't feel like he really really charactered much because it
was always like him with some other characters, so it felt like, okay,
would we get in the scene either way, So I guess you might
as well throw him in there. But yeah, he didn't didn't do much
for me. It wasn't one of my favorites. Oh that cracked me up
so good. When the old ladies like Harold beat for the nice man and
nothing happens and he just smashes her late husband's watch, that's so so horrible.
He has the views. Yeah, but the character I was I was
actually really surprised to see him come back, and he definitely had some lines
that made me laugh a lot more than that afterlife, I would say too.
When he's talking with Patten Olls Walt's character and he's with Phoebe and he's
with Dan Aykroyd and they play the audio, the ancient pre Sumerian audio for
him and Patton Ales was like, oh, Professor so and so puts you
up to this, and he gets on the phone and podcast hangs up.
He's like he's dead. It also was like what the hell is wrong with
that? One did get me because that is full I love and only knows
this. I love the whole like, oh can I talk to Tricia?
Tricia's been dead for ten years, Like I bust out that joke all the
time. So when he did that, that was probably until all three laugh
for me that I forgot. Now I'm saying I forgot about it, so
there you go. But still I yeah, that was a great one.
And he's dead, No he's not. He's alive a little prick, So
yeah, good one. There. I'm out of notes, I think,
Yeah, I think I'm pretty much again. My other criticus are just like
even with the brother and sister. I wish they the whole family interacted more.
That's probably gonna be my biggest call, especially after After Life. Liking
them all together, I would have liked more interaction between them, and again
maybe that's a I know they probably want to keep it two hour, but
maybe if it's two fifteen. Like I said, maybe there's some things I
remember more about this movie, but uh, you don't think I have anything
else. I think they used the OG's well enough. You know, some
fun couple good jump scares definitely got me. Some got the kids a couple
of times, so that was fun. But yeah, I know, I
think that's about it for me. Yeah, I think that's all my notes.
Yeah, Dylan, any final thoughts then? Yeah, No, I'm
glad I finally jumped into this universe. It was fun. It was a
good time, and yeah, I think, like I said, I don't
know if I'll be really rewatching this anytime soon, but definitely gonna check out
Afterlife at some point here and then go back to the OG as well.
So hopefully once I've watched those, I've kind of infuses this one with more
meaning, or maybe I'll be motivated you want to watch it again with kind
of more of that context, but overall had a good time with it.
Not a perfect movie, but just just a good time at the theater.
So I can't go wrong with that. I have Netflix. It's on there,
but well sorry I do I do currently have Netflix. Okay, After
Life is on there, so there you go. Nice. Have you seen
Casper as a wei lad? But it's there's there's no no memories of it
left. Technically it is a Ghostbusters cannon really mm hmm, wow that's fun.
Okay, well, I'm very knowledgeable with this world now. Yes,
a Buster's character makes a cameo in it, like in the costume and everything
like that. So that's a good line. Yeah, yeah, uh yeah,
I think I'll give this like a six point seventy five. I've been
talking to myself about changing myself. Maybe we've been here, you've been yeah,
previously, I've been talking to myself about trying to make maybe seven point
five my new rewatch skill. My like if I always said before on the
podcast, if I give it a seven, it's like not the greatest movie,
but I'll know i'll rewatch it. Where Lately I've been starting to give
things a seven because it's just maybe because the filmmaking behind it so good.
I couldn't give it under that, because like a six if something is like
shot well and scored well, but maybe I had story or issues or character
issues, so I might change it in the future to seven point five.
But even this, I don't think it's one that I would put on the
set for. It doesn't have like the fantastic filmmaking, and it's not something
I'm gonna go back to. But I think I'll watch again in some point
in my life. Like I said, if the girls they they Gwen's really
like can go. She's starting to really like all my kids, but like
she saw the Beetle Juice teaser and when and she said awesome, Like she's
really starting to like turn in like mini traps, like liking that kid Whorg
type of that sort of stuff. So I will watch again. And as
I said the opening, I won't be mad about it. But if I
was alone, it wouldn't be one i'd actively seek out until maybe years later.
There's enough fear that I liked. I did not regret seeing it.
I had a good time, So I'm gonna go a six point seven five,
maybe a few more inches, a few more things, Yeah, could
have maybe, well, since I think you've done one point seven five,
Yeah, because I feel like it's still better than like a six. But
like, I can't get that seven because I know I purposely Travis Snail myself
will not rewatch it a bunch. So six point seven five and I that's
like a C plus. You know, I'll take a seat. I took
many c pluses back in the day. You know that that was a happy
grade for your mister C plus. He used to call me missus boss,
mister Field and is off. Yeah, I'm I'm putting, I'm putting after
life over this one, for sure. I think that it really captured a
lot more of the Like I said at the beginning of this episode, the
nostalgia of the OG and the introduction for the new fan base really really well.
I really really like that film and this one. It does a good
enough job for me that I like seeing they were turning of all the characters
and their their chemistry. But you guys hit some notes spot on where some
characters really just fell off, and we got more scenes with the OG characters
than we did with these new characters. I felt like we're supposed to take
over the mantle of the show it is. This is a gentleman that I
saw the movie with. Actually, he said like he wasn't sure who oh,
yeah, yeah, who they made this movie for if it was for
the OG fans for the new fans. And I feel like that's well said
in the sense that this has maybe a little a little lost identity for really
all. I think the answer is yeah, I think the answers they made
it for both. But that's where it's tough. That's a really tough bounce
to strike, because that's what we talked about, how many characters there are.
So I think they did try to go for newer families and then the
OG people, but you lose a little bit along the way. It's serving
two masters, you know. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good
way of putting it. The the overall tone of the film though, I
had a good time. I was laughing, and I definitely plan to see
this again. I really do, and I think that it was a lot
of fun. I'm curious, I really am curious what we're gonna get for
a third one. Are we gonna have those OG characters in it at all?
Are we just gonna have the new characters and what they're gonna do.
I feel like, dare I say it, we don't really need necessarily need
another Ghostbusters because I feel like, you know, this is this is a
high enough note that I feel like they could just call it here. But
I love Paul Rudd. I love seeing him interact with these characters, and
I wouldn't mind seeing the story he continue if they were to say, hey,
we're doing another one Ghostbusters, the the Fire Empire, Yeah, Melted
Empire, Yeah, yeah, I was just gonna look at the thing there.
I think the only reason they did this because I think I think you
could have said that even after the last one that was a good ending spot.
But I think that one was just so well received and people liked it
that that's why they went another one. So I'm trying to find out for
some reason, my fucking laptop is broken and it just keeps pulling out my
history. I'm trying to search fucking on history just for anytime I hit search
on Google brings up my history for like Ghostbuster thing. I'm going to Savari,
come on, oh my god, Ghostbusters. Paul Rudd, where he
was, He's trying to May like I can't remember her name, Carrie,
Carrie Cook, carry coon, carry coon, when he was trying to make
her feel better, and he's like, you know who, people are down
and out? Like who are they gonna call the Ghostbusters? One more important
thing to say, you know, Bustin makes me feel good. He's so
charismatic and just delivers everything great in this movie. Yeah people like that in
my theater. But yeah, so a budge. It's one hundred million.
It's projected to make about forty five this this weekends. I think you didn't
get to that two hundred. It'll make a profit. I think I agree
with you, like you don't need another one. And I don't think this
is the franchise where they're gonna start killing people off. I think they've shown
like this is just gonna be a good time movie. But yeah, but
uh yeah no, I'm wherever they go, we'll see. But yeah,
there we go. That's our review. Let us know join the discord as
it lists below your thoughts on the film. Thank you very much for tuning
in when you hear from his next won't be boring. So yeah, Bustin
makes it feel good.