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Hey, everyone, this is Will. Before we get started with this episode,

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and trust me, this is likely
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fascinating episodes in the series this far. You'll definitely want to stay tuned till

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the very end of the show to
hear an offer that will knock your socks

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off. I won't spoil a surprise
here, but I can assure you you

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will want to listen to what I
tell you at the very end of this

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interview. If the topic interests you
at all, well, suffice it to

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say that these types of things just
don't come around very often at all.

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That good enough of a tease,
I hope. So I'm just too excited

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to share this episode with you that
the message at the end can't delay my

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releasing the show to you anymore.
Karen and I hope you enjoyed this one

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as much as we did, and
we dare you not to look at your

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hand during this interview anyway. Don't
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of the show for this special offer
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And let's go ahead and start the
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Hey, everyone, welcome back to
another episode of The Skeptic Metaphysician. Karen

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my co host, My lovely co
host, Karen, thank you for being

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by myself once again. Well,
I am so happy that I have been

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upgraded from guests to cod Well,
you know, I figured it was.

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It was about time I got I
kept kept getting these nasty emails saying what

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are you gonna make her from?
No, I'm thrilled to have I really

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am. You bring such a wonderful
perspective to everything that it was a long

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time coming. So well, thank
you. Thanks for being willing to be

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a participant in this craziness that we
call a show. Now, my big

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question to you today, Karen,
Yes, have you ever had your palm

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read? Oh? Yes you have
you? Oh yes, many times?

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And tell me about it? Was
it? Was it a good experience?

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Was it was it not? What
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mean I've had some where you're like, oh my gosh, this is really

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interesting. It's been a while,
so I can't tell you specifics, but

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I can remember how I felt or
something. You're like, hmm, that

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wasn't nothing. You know, I
was a piece of dirt, buddy,

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you're reading it wrong, or you
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both. But I really have had
some really interesting, fantastic experiences with that.

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Also. Well, you know,
in this show, we explore all

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kinds of things that are out of
the norm. This one's no different except

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for the fact that our guest doesn't
do palm reading. She does something that's

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much more scientific in mind, and
she calls it hand analysis, but it's

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kind of rooted in some of the
same general principles. So rather than just

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keep talking about it, and she
was so wonderful, she actually sent me

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an introduction to introduce her to the
show, and I'm going to read it

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here for you because it's so wonderful. So A master Master, Scientific hand

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analyst with three coaching certifications purpose Law
of Attraction and Spiritual Life Coach, and

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featured in a Forbes article about her
work. My next guest helps leaders,

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business owners and teams love their lives
and their work. Ooh, I love

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it already now. Using scientific hand
analysis and her proprietary coaching process, she

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reveals your purpose, special gifts and
blind spots, then guides you into the

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inspired meaning, passion and fulfillment you
crave in life and work and of course

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corporate and team and if it's our
numerous as well now Karen. When not

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doing her purpose work, Jane can
be found out on the trail writing her

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beautiful Arabian appulusive horse Wow Darby,
or eating dark chocolate and Karen sometimes both

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at the same time. That would
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absolutely, and it's really wonderful that
she has this horse because you heard about

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the horse whisper right that movie The
Horse. She's the purpose whisperer, so

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it's a little perfect. I want
to give a very warm welcome to Jean

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Sanders on the show. Jane,
thank you so much for coming on.

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Oh, thanks Will, I've really
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talking about this work and you guys
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be a lot of fun, I
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We're really excited to talk to you
about this because we've not had this topic

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on the show before, and it
touches on so many different things that I'm

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really interested to hear from you.
At the very beginning of the show,

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I mentioned to Karen that it was
not palm reading, but rather scientific hand

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analysis. Can you give us a
basis for or the differences everyone knows when

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you go to a psychic fear and
someone takes your palm and says, oh,

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you can have a long life.
Look at these your lifeline. You're

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can have three kids because you have
these three creases in your hand. How

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does it compare and how does it
contrast? Primarily, the accuracy of a

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palm reading is directly connected to the
intuitive level of the reader. With scientific

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hand analysis, the science is that
the lines in your hands mimic the neural

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pathways in your brain. There are
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somebody how many kids are gonna have
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and frankly I don't want to.
I can tell why they haven't met

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mister Wright or what they need to
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that happening sooner than later that there's
no predictions with scientific hand analysis. Other

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then, I don't care how good
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action or the information that's in your
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I mean, this is a blueprint
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there a specific age that you should
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stop growing or changing? That helps
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hands at twenty five and they'll be
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to the second question is yes,
they will be different, but you probably

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wouldn't be able to see the differences. I would. I've done as young

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as three and as old as eighty
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to get it now, But you
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life purpose, how you're meant to
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it's not a job description that would
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one of work that aligns with their
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you knew what your child's purpose was
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to be through life. It's very
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toward that purpose and through they're true
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their thirties and forties because of career
issues. And you know, it's not

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one hundred dollars pom reading, So
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old epitome. You really need to
want it for it to mean much to

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you. Right, So then how
could it possibly be that lines on your

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hand can provide a blueprint to your
life path? How is that possible?

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As they mimic the neural pathways in
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the gentleman that created this database spent
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hands. That's more subjects than any
FDA approved drug out there. So the

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database, the system is very reliable, it's very robust. He wrote a

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book about it called life Prints,
and the forward to this book was written

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by a neural surging from Stanford who
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He's since retired, but I mean, it's extraordinarily reliable. The accuracy,

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the biggest word I get with the
accuracy is freaky. There's like,

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this is so freaky accurate? How
do you know this about who? I'm

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like, Well, it's in your
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what you asked. Yes, your
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or the FBI being deep due to
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we get a lot of information about
you from your finger prints, and that

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information never changes. It's the core
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change. And what kind of your
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may not, but it certainly care
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recognize. I would never recommend some
hand endless do which I don't think is

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really in integrity. But I would
never say, oh, well, you

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should come back in five years get
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to make that much of a difference. Right, that's more job security than

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exactly. So, can you give
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you can tell from someone's fingerprints?
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we get the core of your purpose. So I do purpose in two ways.

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I do the core, the foundation
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then I do an expanded version of
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from any gift markings that I see. And I need to come back to

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give markings because those are very iffortant. Also from Fingerprints, I get what's

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called the life lesson, which is
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is the number one thing, the
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or hopefully they will to achieve their
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joy and fulfillment and success on their
terms that they create. I think knowing

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your purpose and living it is the
only way too that joy, fulfillment and

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success. And by the way,
life lesson, nobody can work through a

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one hundred percent. It will always
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more you work on it, the
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the third you get that from fingerprints, Yes, And the third finger prints

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that we get from Fingerprints is what's
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of like your operating system if you
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You know, kind of the overarching
energy of your life and the filter through

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which you experience life and make a
lot of decisions. And the school also

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identifies some of your natural skills and
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or training you need. It's what
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your purpose, and there are four
possible schools. Most people are in one,

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many are in two, and some
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of us have more to learn with
others. I have a feeling that probably

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pointing at me, she's just pining. Well, here's related to that.

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If you don't want to bite,
continue on this Vein every marking in the

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hands, I mean, if you
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lots of lines, big ones,
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So every marking in the hand,
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marking has both a master path and
a student path. Master path feels good.

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You know, the more master pads
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to live in alignment with your purpose. Student paths don't feel so good.

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I call them the yuckies. Could
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life complications could be little ones or
big ones, like feeling bored, stuck,

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overwhelmed, confused, frustrated, off
track, lost, procrastinating, angry,

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sad, depressed, money problems,
relationship issuings, career confusion. All

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those are some of the ways that
student paths show up. And the kicker

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is nobody can be on the master
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we're human right where works in progress. But that's where all the power of

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this work is because with a hand
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learn what those master paths look like, so you know what to strive for

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that's your best life. And you
also learn what your student pas look like,

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so that gives you power to work
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always up to you, and nobody's
ever shocked by their student paths. They're

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like, oh yeah, but that's
neat, and I like that. You

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get an idea of what you're working
with. And sometimes it's a lot easier

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to handle the hard stuff when you
know that this is something that you have

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to go through, that you have
to learn. Absolutely you know it's in

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your hands, it's exesting your hands. So people seem to really trust it

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because it's not how they interpret a
question or answer a question, or the

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load they're in when they do it. They don't have to say a word.

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I just need their handprints. It
strikes me how so many things out

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there, how many modalities kind of
point at the same thing, the same

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information, the same communication that you're
giving me now was given to me when

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an astrologer read in my chart.
According to this person, actually a couple

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of people didn't where the moons and
the stars were in alignment at the time

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of my birth. Imprinted a blueprint
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insight into what my challenges might be, what to look out for, all

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that kind of stuff. Now take
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the same thing and imprinting it on
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much more clearly that we have all
kinds of hints and reasons to look at

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all these different hidden modalities in order
to live our lives. It's almost like

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we've been given all the tools if
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and take a look. That's right. I mean, I really think God's

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spirit, source, the universe,
whatever word you want to use, try

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so hard to help us understand who
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the big difference with hand analysis.
It does. The main thing is purpose.

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Some astrologers can find purpose in a
chart and some can, but they're

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definitely overlap between neurology astrology side the
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I mean, we have all these
tools, you know, the universe

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is trying to help us really love
our lives and love our work, love

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ourselves, and make the difference we're
meant to make. So I wonder if

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this is something that is you know, scientific, and you're looking at it.

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I've heard something similar about your eyes
and like the irises, when things

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happen to you, that those little
spots change. I don't know if that's

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true or not. But if this
is something that's you know, scientific,

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I wonder why it's not used more
or it's not more mainstream? Does that

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sound? So that makes sense?
And the iris is all about health by

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the way, So yeah, and
you know, but you can read faces,

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you can read ears, but nothing
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here was yeahs and boy is it
deep and comprehends to touch on your answer

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as the scientific mind in this whole
conversation, I would say maybe the reason

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why it's not so mainstream is because
how can the planets be in a certain

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alignment affect you who you are?
How can aligns in your hand actually tell

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you what your life purpose is a
lot of people are I don't want to

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say the word of freight, but
but if they can't feel it touch it,

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No, there's there's it can't be
true. I know astrology, I

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don't know how how it is with
hand analysis. By no, astrology is

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considered a pseudoscience, not even an
actual science. So it's strictly because a

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lot of scientists just don't want to
look at anything that's outside of that specific

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evidence based information. Right having said
that, you are saying that this is

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very scientific and very evidence based,
and there are provable actions that come from

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these hand analyzes. I think the
main reason it's not wore Main Street is

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because of what you said. But
even prior to that, most people haven't

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heard of it. Right, So
you know, in the scientific world,

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in the modality world, it's relatively
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sixty years. It's about how long
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to astrology and numerology, that's young. And then when people do hear about

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it, they automatically go to palm
breathing. I was just thinking about the

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picture the fortune teller with the big
ball, and so many people out there

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who really are just in it to
steal, not steal, but to take

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people's moneys. Right there, there
are Charlatans out there. The world is

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full of Charlatans who, oh yeah, let me tell you your fortune,

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when they really just trying to get
your twenty bucks. Y. So because

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of that, sadly one bad apples
spoils a bunch me that that might have

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a lot to do with it too. Sadly Yeah, well I good palm

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readings too. I mean, so
it's just different, right, it's not

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it's not as deep than it's not
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But but it's interesting that you do
hear things like this that don't tend to

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take off, Like I've heard about
hospitals having people come in and using reiki

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and their patients after surgery or before
one. And you know, you're talking

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about this is very scientific. And
you were in Forbes magazine, which when

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I think of Forbes, I don't
think it's like LUTH's mystical magazine. You

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know, it's an iriy kind of
straight laced, you know. Yeah,

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it's just it's interesting. It's like
it's there, but I don't know,

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people just are free to grab onto
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I mean, it's just and I've
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an NBA. I've always wanted to
get this into companies because I definitely see

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the applications. You know, as
a leader, you could first of all,

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be more self aware, therefore more
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and a better leader. Self awareness
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and everybody knows how important or Q
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But it also if you know what's
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your team members, it helps you
put them in the right positions and assign

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the right projects that are more in
alignment with who they are and what their

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desires are and what their talents and
skills and purposes because not only purpose,

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it also identifies talents and strengths and
gifts. Oh, good markings. That's

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right. We need to come back
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before we get to that, you
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can find from fingerprints. Is that
basically what you're looking at, or do

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you also look at the hand markings
like you know, people hear about the

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you know, the lifeline and the
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that that's all promised you will?
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at everything, So everything in the
hands, the shape of the hand,

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all the lines where the fingers are
set on the palm, how the fingers

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relate to each other. I mean, it's an enormous database. You know,

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I study it for five years,
but then I'm as highly served fight

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as possible that and you don't need
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it on a surface level. Right, So do you have a question for

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your looks like you're dying ass on? And can you look at the backs

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of the hands too, or just
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I mean, if you look at
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see how many can you see the
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So the roadmap, it is like
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is what I call it. But
gift markings and they're not involved in the

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fingerprints. Gift markings are line formations, and there's several different kinds of line.

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For me that gift markings are indications
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and they're very important for several reasons. One, if you take every

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human on the planet, more than
half, far more than half actually do

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not have a gift marking. Doesn't
mean that some of them are amazing people

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making a big difference in the world. That if you have anything rare or

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unusual in the hands makes it important. So the fact that they're unusual makes

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gift markings important. Secondly, they're
important because they help explain the hell,

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you know, the gifts and talents
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and make the difference that you're meant
to make in the world. And thirdly,

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they're important because they have those student
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a double ed sword. You know, the more gift markings you have,

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the more life complications you have to
deal with, because nobody can be able

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to master path one hundred percent of
the turrent. So gift markings are a

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big deal and they're very important.
There's only eighteen possible the lines or could

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it be like a mole where I
want to find some in my hands?

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important, is a series of vertical
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mound where your pinky finger is hooked
on, and there have to be at

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least four little vertical lines. But
gift marking can show up as six pointed

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stars, but not every six pointed
star is a gift marking. It depends

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on where it is. That's why
it takes a while to learn this stuff.

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And I am absolutely fascinated staring at
our hands. It's no conversation me

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in a live speaking engagement. I
mean this far, I'm looking at tops

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of hits. Absolutely, it is
absolutely fascinating. I've never noticed how many

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different markings are on my hands before. It's unbelievable. Well, eight,

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this is going to freak you out, will I would say seventy five percent

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of my clients, and I've had
several thousand have fingerprints in their pull what.

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Yeah, Okay, you're going to
be fail up here in between fingers,

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I mean, you know, ride
at the very top of your palm.

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Anybody can't hold my enough. But
it's clear this is this tells you

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I'm a pro. You really gotta
hit the right absolutely real. He's heading

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over here. Yeah. By the
time I getting the hind far enough away

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from my head, it's too far. Your headline. It can be if

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you have a really long headline,
that could be a gift marking. And

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the headline is kind of the middle
big line that goes across your palm,

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starts under your index finger and goes
across. You could go straight across.

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I don't have one on this hand. I have no gifts. I have

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no gifts at all. Well,
no, that I bet you do.

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And because I tuned to attract people
that have gift markings, because I have

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a bunch. But you said you
don't have that line there, Karen,

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Really you only have two big line
is on your ear. It's well,

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look at this one. I don't
know what she has. Totally different.

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The hands are totally different. But
one of them, instead of going across,

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it just stops and then it goes
straight down. Yeah. Yeah,

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so it brings up a good question. Yeah. When you go to these

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palm readers, they say, or
has to be your left hand because it's

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closer to your heart, or has
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your dominant or is there a difference? Do you read both hands? You

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read only one read both hands and
generally the your dominant hand, whatever that

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is, and it's usually right is
what people see. It's what you show

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the world. It's your business.
It's it's what's out there. And left

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hand or your non dominant hand is
personal stuff, inner stuff, family st

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of close knit community stuff. Gotcha
hands are similar and I aren't, and

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I never realized that they weren't,
and now I'm freaking out. That's the

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matter, makes no difference whatsoever.
I just take it as a fact that

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you have a secret life that you
don't like people to see. I like

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that, make me so. Then
I have two very distinctive lines. I

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have one lining goes right up across
the top of my palm, okay,

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and I have one that goes around
my thump race. Two are really well

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pronounced. What are those? We
need to take a quick break, but

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we'll be right back with more amazing
conversation on the skeptic metaphysicians. I have

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two very distinctive lines. I have
one lining goes right up across the top

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of my palm okay, and I
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Two are really well pronounced. What
are those? Well, now you're

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making me wonder that's possibly a gift
marking. So oh really? Because like,

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I have three primary lines. So
I have this line, which is

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the that's my relationship style. Then
I have my headline, which starts under

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the index finger and goes across however, for it goes by the way a

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headline or a heart line carry would
never go a little bit. And then

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all of a sudden make a turn. That's a different line coming up,

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probably from the bottom. And then
I have the lifeline, which goes around

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the base of your thung page.
Your lines. Well, I do have

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three. I see my headline,
I see my heartline, and my lifeline.

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Perfect my heartline and my lifeline.
Does that mean I'm going to live

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forever? Because it goes like it
goes around my palm almost to the to

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the all the shide of my hand. That's in scientific hand analysis. The

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length of your lifeline has nothing to
do with how long you're gonna live.

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It's not to give you all the
passwords because mine short. You've better know

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the step there and come out that. A short lifeline is called a gotta

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gotta gotta GMTTA And what it means
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you switch and do it. Pretty
much. That's all that means.

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It does not mean you're getting never
a short life. Okay, Well,

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good. Yeah, well, now, I mean you you were in triguing

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the living daylights out of me.
I really think I'm going to hire you

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to do a hand annalysis because now
I've got a note like, I gotta

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know, it's crazy my trend though. You have the past life aggressions in

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the astrology, Well do that?
I guess when about fire, maybe maybe

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maybe you should give us a deal
once, you know, two for one

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or something. Okay, so now
I know that you do that. You

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have clients across eleven countries, is
what you're talking. Point sent me.

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So I can only imagine that you
don't hop on a flight to countries all

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the time. So how do you
do that when we're long distances like this?

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I use hand prints. I've never
done the mid person. I worked

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out of my home since nineteen I
don't even want to tell you that was

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a great year. Yeah, that
was a great year. Yell. We

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I send out a handprint kits,
just a big white envelope with what you

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need in it to take your handprints. You take your prints and mail them

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back to me, and then we
set up two hour long zoom calls.

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So it's a lot of value.
It's an hour for the analysis, and

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it's recorded because, believe me,
even when I do a little mini reading

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three minutes, people can't remember everything. I say, yeah, sure,

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it's going to be a lot of
information. There's also a summary report four

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three to five pages, depending on
how much stuff is in somebody's hands,

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and then an hour a week or
two later to give my client time to

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watch the recording and make note of
any questions that have surfaced or come up,

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because, believe me, they hang
up and they're they can how does

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this apply to my life? And
oh, no, wonder that because when

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I had mine it blew my mind. I mean it was like, oh

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my god, No wonder I liked
that, but I didn't like that.

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No wonder that worked, but that
didn't work, and no wonder this happened

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and that happened, and no wonder. I haven't been happy in my corporate

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career because I wasn't on purpose.
And I mean it just, oh,

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how does someone get into analysis?
I know you were in a corporate world,

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and so what made you say enough? I'm I'm going to focus on

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the lines of my hand, like, how does someone do that? What

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happened? Well? I was asking
big questions. Because I had three careers,

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I was always successful, but I
would eventually hit a wall where I

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just wasn't happy anymore, and I
was bored and I wasn't fulfilled, and

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I knew I was supposed to be
doing something different, but I just could

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not figure it out. A career
coach couldn't help me. I read all

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the books, I filled out all
the forms, took all the assessments,

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and maybe I'm dense, I don't
know, but I just couldn't get anywhere

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with it and really needed I knew
what I really believed was everybody has a

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purpose, and I didn't know what
then. My last most recent career,

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prior to this, I was a
professional speaker, and again hit that wall,

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and as my heart pulled away from
it, so did the revenue.

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But I didn't know what else to
do, so I kept doing it.

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So I was just in this down
to a spiral. And you know,

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when you recognize something and you don't
take action, the universe is gonna give

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you a little boot. And I
wasn't paying attention to the boots. So

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I got one of those cosmic two
befores, and both of my parents passed

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away within three months and it just
was what I leave. You know,

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it was like, all right,
I need not farting around. Life is

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short, and I got to figure
this out. I started googling how do

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I find my life purpose and went
down some paths that didn't work, and

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then after a few months, ran
across a headline for a tell of seminar

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and the headline red discover you or
innate life purpose. I couldn't click on

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that sucker fast enough and the first
words I saw were a hand analysis.

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And then I was so disappointed because
I thought poem reading right. And then

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I kept reading and then I saw
the word scientific, and that one word

409
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helped me put aside my anal NBA
skepticism because the way listened to the tell

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seminar and you know what, I
couldn't deny it made sense. So I

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gotta hand the analysis change my life, m change my life. So when

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you are you've talked about how you
can't predict the future with this right,

413
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but when you have you ever had
a situation where you're analyzing someone's handprints and

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you see their purpose and it's not
good, Like, you know, this

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is not necessarily a great individual,
because that's something that you could see in

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the hand, Well, do you
mean, because the purpose there's no bad

417
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or good in the hands and the
program. If you could tell that someone

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was like a sketchy person just by
their hands, or I doubt it would

419
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tell your is I doubt it would
tell you that you're destined to become the

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next Mussolini or something like that,
right, I mean, sadly most people

421
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are not on purpose. So and
that's why they cook to me, usually

422
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because they know it because they feel
crummy, right, it's just or worse.

423
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But yeah, so all the time
I see people who aren't on purpose.

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I would be surprised if anyone didn't
know the importance of living, of

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being on purpose, right, be
surprised. However, there are people out

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there who might be thinking that they
just this is just what life is.

427
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Right to get up, you make
the donuts, you come home, and

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then you go to bed, and
that's that's the end of it. So,

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if you were to give any advice
to someone listening right now, what

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would you tell them about the importance
of finding your purpose and living it.

431
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Doing so helps avoid regrets at the
end of life when you realize you could

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00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.960
have made a bigger difference for that
happy. So I think, you know.

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One of the things that I've said
before is something I always tell people.

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I believe the only way too that
deeper and more consistent joy and fulfillment

435
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is by living in alignment with your
purpose and your gifts. I think that

436
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would be fantastic, like for our
daughter. Like you said earlier, I

437
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do it with a kid, and
then you can kind of help guide them.

438
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Because I still don't know what my
purpose is, I'm gonna have no

439
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clue. And if I had,
and I have never had any guidance like

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that. I mean everything I tell
my husband my SATs, I got the

441
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:04.839
same score in the math, same
score in the science. When I took

442
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.799
those personalities test, it was always
the same, you know, So it

443
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was just like pig, that's been
tough. I can tell you what your

444
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purpose is, Karen, Oh,
it's to be the co host of the

445
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Skeptic Giving. That's why you were
on this world. Now what I expected.

446
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But usually not always that. Usually
people are surprised by their furpals.

447
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.599
And let me say, it's not
a job description. That would be kuckoo?

448
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:30.559
Did I say that? I or
you know? Because everybody's got more

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00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:37.160
than one auction of work that will
or volunteering or something action right, that

450
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will be an alignment with their purpose
and help them make the difference they well

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00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:44.519
to make. Right, So your
hand is not going to tell you to

452
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:49.519
become an air traffic controller exactly,
it's just going to say you are meant

453
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:58.839
to help airplanes too specific Still,
okay, you're meant to help in science

454
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.680
type area right right right to guide
people or to teach or to heel or

455
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.960
something like that. But yeah,
that brings up a good point. What

456
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the cow does? What is What
are some examples of purposes? Wait?

457
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.400
You mentioned this down a job description, so what's an example? What can

458
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:15.920
someone expect to hear? So first
of all, let me tell you that

459
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:22.799
there are several hundred possibilities, so
it's very different than other things where there's

460
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:27.880
only nine and get your choice of
nine or something like that. But the

461
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:34.640
but just like one finger at a
time. But notice there are ten fingerprints,

462
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and as I mentioned, there are
plossible prints in the palm as well.

463
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:44.240
So they are like so ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

464
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:50.720
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, twenty
four classible places where fingerprints can be any

465
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.000
combination of those twenty four could be
the core of your purpose, just the

466
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:59.880
core that's not even the standard version. So some of the single finger purpose

467
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.480
is right index finger if that's where
your purpose lies. And it's a numerical

468
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.320
system, by the way, based
on how the print looks right index finger,

469
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.639
and we have all different names for
their fingers. Is called visionary leaders.

470
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.920
So that's about power and influence and
leadership. The right middle finger is

471
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:23.400
business. It's a business person.
Somebody is good at structure and responsibility and

472
00:34:23.760 --> 00:34:31.119
organization and resources. The ring finger
is about creativity, and there's other ways

473
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:35.679
creativity can show up in the hands
too, so but if it's your purpose

474
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.079
that would be on one of the
two ring fingers. It could be the

475
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:44.760
passionate advocate, which means your purpose
is to love your life and love your

476
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.519
work and figure out how to do
that and advocate for yourself and others and

477
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.480
causes that you believe in. So
that's the few of the examples of a

478
00:34:52.639 --> 00:35:00.960
just a single purpose to at least
provide some sort of context into what we're

479
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.920
talking about. And I just one
more question, and I I'm just it's

480
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:07.920
just well, no, I have
like fifty more I ask me anything,

481
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:13.880
and then I mean, like,
I have no knowledge of this. So

482
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.199
because are like genuine honest questions.
I cook a lot, and you know,

483
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.280
you use knives and you burn yourself. So if I was to,

484
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.679
I don't know, like cut my
finger and get a scar, would that

485
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.679
be something that that's supposed to happen
and influence my hand analysis? Yep?

486
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.719
Or is that something you could look
beyond? Well, you don't want to

487
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:36.840
look beyelonder. What it means is
wherever you injure yourself, whatever that area

488
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:42.559
means, it is trying to get
your attention. You cut your right index

489
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:46.079
finger, you need to step more
into your power and leadership. Huh wow.

490
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:49.679
So so you've got to pay attention
to where you get burned and where

491
00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:53.679
you get cut what you do.
But it's maybe you should because that's that's

492
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:57.119
trying to tell you something that that's
what we don't have to pay attention.

493
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:05.760
We just send it to her follow
me quietly. So we're getting close to

494
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:09.159
the end of our time. Any
other questions, yea, so many other

495
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:14.239
questions. But if someone wanted to
reach out to you to talk to you

496
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.960
about doing a hand analysis, I
assume that the best place for them to

497
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:20.239
reach out to you would be on
your website, is that correct? Yes,

498
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:27.320
Purpose whiskerer dot com. So this
has been unbelievably fascinating and you've given

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00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:34.280
me a whole new perspective into my
hands. And yeah, I don't mean

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00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:39.199
may could that be? And I
would encourage anyone listening now. I mentioned

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the countries because the rate the show
does air in Ireland as well as the

502
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UK currently, so people from all
of the world can reach out to you

503
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.840
and access your talents. Correct,
yep, yep, great Sope. I

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urge anyone listening to this to reach
out to Jane, because just in a

505
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short amount of time that we have
been conversing with her, it has opened

506
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.719
up all kinds. I mean,
if you're not if you're listening to the

507
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.039
show and you're not looking at your
palms, I'm not sure if you're alive,

508
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:15.880
because this has been incredible information and
it's you can tell just the level

509
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of expertise that you bring to the
table is is I mean, bar none,

510
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:27.800
probably one of the highest experts we've
had on any particular topic on the

511
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show. We really appreciate it.
Thank you, and I can't thank you

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enough. Jane. You will definitely
hear from us, because I definitely need

513
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to I need to I need to
know, I need to know if I'm

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on the path, So you'll definitely
hear from you directly. This has been

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a lot of fun. It's really
great talking with the two of you.

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So thank you so much for inviting
me. Now you're you're thinking, very

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welcome, thrilled to have you and
and reach out anytime you want to come

518
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:51.840
back. We'd love to have you
back on the show. That that'd be

519
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:53.840
awesome. I could talk about a
lot of different things. Oh, it

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00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.079
sounds good to us, Yeah,
because because we love to talk. Uh,

521
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:04.119
Karen, thanks, thank you too
for coming on board the show officially

522
00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.320
now, so thank you for yeah, and thanks for looking at your hand

523
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:13.199
with me, because your hand is
quite freaky and I really like and it's

524
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:17.199
true. Hey everyone, this is
Will. I'm breaking into this interview because

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if you'll remember, at the very
beginning of the show, I promised you

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a very special offer that you wanted
to listen for at the very end of

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the interview, well, here it
is. Jane has graciously extended an offer

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for our listeners that contains a special
discount for a hand analysis for you or

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anyone in your family. Have you've
been listening to this far, then you

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know how fascinating this is, and
I urge you to visit Skeptic Metaphysician dot

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com and become a member in order
to access this special discount for the service.

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It's truly an astounding discount that I
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It's free, and you'll not only
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but lots of others that you can
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But will what's the offer? Well, you'll need to go to Skeptic Metaphysician

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dot com become a member to find
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to say that it is a lot
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Well, that is the special announcement
that I had. So we now rejoin

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the show already in progress, and
a huge thank you to you, Yes,

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are tons of options out there,
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