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All right, folks. Joining us
now is doctor Shiva Aya dou Ray.

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Glad to have him on. He's
running for president Shiva for President dot com

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now. He livestream the debate on
Twitter like a lot of other people did,

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and gave his comments in real time. So we won't talk to him

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about the debate. But as I
was talking to him all there, he's

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very interested in talking about the Supreme
Court cases and the First Amendment infringements that

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came from those, and I am
too. I've talked about them some on

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Friday. Thank you for joining us, doctor Shiva. Yeah, good to

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be here, David. How are
you doing good? Doing good? Good

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to David. What I wanted to
do was, as many people know,

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I was heavily involved, probably the
centerpiece of the entire discovery of the fact

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that the government of the United States, in fact, all governments of the

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world, have a backdoor censorship portal
into every social media company. Yes,

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in my twenty twenty case, David, you may remember, I uncovered in

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courtroom testimony the fact that the government
of Massachusetts had coerced Twitter or Twitter would

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never have thrown me off had it
not been for the government of Massachusetts because

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I exposed the fact that the government
of Massachusetts had destroyed ballot images, which

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is a violation of a federal law. When I went to do my own

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audit of how possibly I could have
lost my election to a guy who had

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no law signs nothing in Massachusetts and
everyone can go to win backfreedom dot com.

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I don't want to go through that. I've talked about that extensively.

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But it was my work, my
representing myself in court, which exposed the

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fact bear view to half a billion
people all over the world that the government

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of the United States starting in twenty
well, it was Trump who created SAISA,

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unanimously proved by both wings of Congress. Both wings of Congress ninety nine

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percent are funded by APAC right.
Both wings of Congress supported the execution of

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a law which allowed the creation of
infant structure for government to coerce social media

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companies to do their bidding, or
more probably better to have a collusion between

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social media companies and government as one
entity, what some people call state imperialism,

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you know. So that's what I
ncovered, and most important was my

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case showed conclusively with evidence that the
government coer saying Twitter to do that period

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and that's why I won my federal
injunction in court. Now, except you,

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David, and a few other people
who covered that case. None of

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the mainstream media grifters, including Glenn
Greenwald, wh I consider a grifter and

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we can talk about it, or
I call him effort Carlson. Right,

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I'll be kind on your show.
Right, none of these They actually concealed

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it for two years, and they
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files, acting like they had discovered
this, but the reality was a concealed

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that during the most important time when
it needed to be brought out. That's

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what these guys always do, called
the limited CIA hangout. All right.

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Anyway, after I expose all of
this, David, interesting enough, they

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found two other brown guys people look
like me, Indian guys. One of

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them is a guy called Jaye Battacharia
who had promoted lockdowns in a scientific paper

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in twenty twenty all right out of
Stanford. You know, my stuff was

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going viral. And this is what
happens when an independent agent like me brings

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out the truth or you, David. What they do is it's a very

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insidious technique. They don't want to
give limelight to the independent people bring out

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the truth. So what they do
is they hide that truth and then they

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put one of their controlled opposition people
to quote unquote hijack that finding and own

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it. And that's what happened.
So these guys in Missouri versus Biden file

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a lawsuit. And I was very
very upset with Jim Hoff because Jim covered

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our cases from the Gateway Pundit never
told me they were doing any of this.

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That's some true. I saw that
he was one of the defend our

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plans exactly exactly, and Jim covered
our case extensively. Now when I read

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the case, because I read cases, I said, this is this case

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is going to fail. It's set
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at the government, you know,
at their bidding. Social media companies did

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it. Now, why is this
important? Because social media companies have their

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First Amendment right. Government also has
first Amendment right. Okay from the constitution.

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The issue is did Twitter do what
the government wanted? Because Twitter was

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Twitter would not have done it if
the government didn't call them. You say,

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it's very important thing. I have
first Amendment rights. Government has First

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Amendment rights, and so does a
company like Twitter. So it's a very

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important thing to show that if there
is government forcing Twitter to do this,

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it's called state action by a very
important ruling that you have to argue called

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Blum versus your ets Key, which
I argued successfully in federal court in Massachusetts.

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That's why I got my injunction.
I won that. It's the centerpiece

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of the case. Now, after
I won it and went on to the

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major trial, the judge was trying
to bribe me to drop all the claims

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against the government, and they appointed
me a lawyer who was colluding also with

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the judge and the government from all
perspective, okay, and I wouldn't accede,

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and then they tried to come after
me. And that's why I actually

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filed a new case in December twenty
twenty three against the US government, not

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just Massachusetts. So that case is
live, okay. But everyone needs to

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understand that I am the one who
has the actual evidence, David that can

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stand courtroom testimony, which is I
have the big case of the century,

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which shows we have the courtroom testimony
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government of Massachusetts telling a federal judge, yes, I contact a Twitter.

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We didn't like its tweets and when
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Quote, it doesn't get any better
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Missouri versus Biden was flawed. And
it's funny they found two Indian guys who

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knew about our case, and you
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they would have referred to our case. Yeah, so why didn't they

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refer to it? So they set
up a case where they filed it in

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you know, Republican centric federal courts
that they'd win those in the Fifth Circuit,

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But when it went up to the
Supreme Court, Amy Cony Barrett destroyed

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it because she said, you don't
have exact evidence of the government actually coercing

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social media because because in the cases
that they had, the social media companies

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already had these people on their red
flag list, right, but my case

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they didn't. I was never thrown
off social media, you see. Yeah,

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so my case was a course.
So why didn't they include my case

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when it was so well known all
over the world. And we've seen this

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time of from the Supreme Court in
the past. I've talked many times about

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as they were putting in the National
Firearms Act and other things like that,

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and back in the nineteen thirties,
they had a guide to establish that act.

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They had a guy who was a
convicted criminal at previous convictions, Miller,

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and he had a sought off shotgun, and so they bring this action

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against him, and that was the
case that they wanted to bring in.

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They argued that he couldn't have a
sought off shotgun because it was not a

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military weapon. And he even died
before the case was heard of the Supreme

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Court. They went ahead with it
anyway, even though the guy was dead.

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It wasn't a moot case. You
know, when you look at something

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like this, and Barrett says,
these people don't have standing. It's like

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who had standing to decide a case
of a guy that's already died. But

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when they want to establish a president, they'll do anything, no matter how

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ridiculous it is, you know.
And I think what they're doing. What

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I'm saying here, David, is
why didn't these lawyers. Why didn't these

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people who knew about my case reach
out out? Yeah, why did they

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even reference it? They intentionally concealed
our case in Massachusetts knowing it was the

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landmark case here in Massachusetts. Why
would you conceal it, David, That's

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the question and the only conclusion coming. Either they're really really dumb and incompetent,

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or was done intentionally. That's the
only two conclusions. Either you're dumb

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and you're an incompetent lawyer. And
the most important case that knowing the history

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that I had revealed that, by
the way, it was Trump who signed

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into law site which created that backdoor
infrastructure, supported by both wings of Congress.

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You have this landmark case where we
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judge, yeah, I did it. I told Twitter to do this,

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and I was relieved courtroom testimony.
Why would you not include that when you

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knew this would go to the Supreme
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want to give me credit because you're
jealous. But it's quite interesting they go

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find two brownsk Indian guys to be
the centerpiece of that. Right, it's

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almost like a replacement strategy. But
you don't bring out the most important findings.

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So Amy Cony Barrett, if you
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it very carefully, she says,
in order to show this, you need

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the evidentiary proof that Twitter or Facebook
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You say, that's like the smoking
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So why would you not include the
most important piece of evidence. Yeah,

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you see what I'm saying. Yeah, So they didn't include this because if

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you look at this, it was
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Court basically giving it to the government. So the government now and everyone should

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listen. Can this sets up a
precedent ruling at the highest court in the

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land, So everyone else who gets
thrown off social media by government intervention has

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to even go much harder, Okay, much much harder because of what these

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fools did. I'm talking about the
attorneys in Murthy versus Biden on the plaintiff

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side. You can't just blame the
Supreme Court. This was a setup,

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right, So the Supreme Court handed
it to the left or whatever you want

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to call it, the swarm as
I call it, okay, by giving

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them saying that government can legally censor
speech and they're retroactively protected. Now,

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which is what I predicted. What
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the telecommunications. They did it through
Congress, where Congress gave a retroactive immunity

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to the When the government was using
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administration to spy on US citizens,
they retroactively. Congress left and right got

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together and they passed a rule to
indemnify these companies. So that's what just

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happened here the left and right.
If you look at this, there's three

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the far right guys on the Supreme
Court, you know, Roberts Cony,

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Barrett and others colluded with the left
to screw open Basically, they destroyed the

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First Amendment online destroyed. Now the
next day, what do they do.

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They pass a They said, okay, but we're getting rid of the Chevron

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doctrine. Now, remember the Supreme
Court ruling that they just did. Basically

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says, any agency in the government, any government, can silence the speech

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of you American citizens, silently launder
censorship through social media companies. It's okay

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because they've set the bar so high
because of this ridiculous lawsuit that they did

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not include my findings purposely intentionally,
that's what they did. They sabotaged the

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American people, I say was deliberate. The next day, they then the

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Supreme Court again in a six'
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rule to eliminate the Chevron doctrine in
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NRDC. The question has been this
Congress rights laws. Right, the executive

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branch, that's a legislative branch.
Executive branch is supposed to enforce the laws,

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and the judicial branch in the United
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Okay, So in that part sometimes
Congress, probably likely on purpose,

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will write laws that are vague.
Right. Oh yeah, let's say that's

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been a standard, that's been a
standard thing. Pelosi said, We'll have

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to pass it to find out what's
in it. Right with a bomb,

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Right, Let's say they pass laws
that are vague. They so this in

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the Chevron versus NRDC historic precedent setting
case in nineteen eighty four, the Supreme

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Court ruled in those instances, an
agency which has subject matter expertise in that

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area, we will defer to that. It's called agency deference. It's a

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principle. So if the courts have
to if there's a law that comes to

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be interpreted in front of the Supreme
Court, the courts or any court have

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to defer to the agency within the
government and get their opinion first, and

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if their opinion rules, so it's
really a fourth branch of government. Okay.

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So that set up the Chevron doctrine
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right nineteen eighty four today, Now
in the fishermen's case, I think it

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was relentless. I forget. There's
two cases that came up. The Supreme

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Court ruled sixty three to strike down
the Chevron doctrine, which meant that Congress

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must put together clear laws so you
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But here's the deal. It's a
shell game because you're moving away the

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corruption from the agencies. Guess what
to the lobbyists, because we know the

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lobbyists are the ones who are influencing
Congress, who write the laws they ever.

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So what you noticed was the right
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like, oh my god, this
is great. Chevron doctrine has been smash.

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But if you go look at any
of those people's Twitter feeds, they

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were silent on what the government did
twenty four hours before or sorry, the

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Supreme Court did the quote unquote the
Republican right wing Supreme Court did to destroy

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free speech in the United States.
So look at this. So so in

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twenty four hours, the Supreme Court
passes it takes down the Chevron Doctrine,

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which had flaws with it, to
throw a bone to the Republican right.

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So they say, oh my god, great, we don't have the deep

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state now. And you can read
those tweets and those Facebook posts, But

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those same grifters posting that David,
not one of them said anything against the

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same right wing Republican court which had
just allowed every agency, government agency agency

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the right to silence speech, destroy
the First Amendment. So on the one

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hand, they took down the First
Amendment the Supreme Court, and they threw

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a bone of oh, we've taken
away the Chevron Doctrine, but we know

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that that corruption that ruled the agencies
through all of the Chevron Doctrine is just

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going to get shifted and consolidated over
to the lobbyists in Congress. Now I

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can see this, as you know, as bright as day, because I

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take a system's approach, David.
The non systems people were out there,

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Oh my god, we got this
over here. What's like, you know,

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showing the monkey the mirror over here. So you know, you don't

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show the banana over here, right. So, yeah, the big elephant

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in the room is the Supreme Court
destroyed the First Amendment. The right wing

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Republican Supreme Court destroyed the First Amendment. And that same Republican right wing Supreme

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Court threw a bone to the Republican
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this is great. You guys can
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M that's what happened, David.
I agree. Well, I think

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that you know, I agree that
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to people. I think a lot
of people looking at this. I've talked

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about the power of the bureaucracy and
how it has grown over the years.

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I talk about regulation without representation as
much as taxation with representation. I got

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a couple of comments here. Let
me pass these on to you and get

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your comment on ap rumble seat.
Right, So, maybe we need people

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like doctor Shiva to establish legal think
tanks state to state. Well that's kind

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of what you're doing with your educational
classes, isn't it. Yeah, So

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who is that rumble The user's name
is ap rumble Seat. I'm not sure

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that ap rumble. What we've done
is we've created a very powerful movement and

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the bottom line, you know,
theme of our movement is save yourself.

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If you can see that, David, right, save yourself on these and

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then we tell people, David,
on the back of these cards, look

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what's going on. This swarm is
actually killing you. Lifespan is going down,

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constant living is going up. So
our position, David, is that

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the individual in the United States,
if you want to be a real citizen,

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must take responsibility for your life.
Yes, politicians are not going to

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do it. There's no savior coming
to do that. The only person going

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to do that is you. You
must save yourself. In order to save

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yourself, You've got to understand the
way systems work. Now, the value

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that I'm bringing to in my run
for president and beyond that is to explain

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to people, look, I've discovered
those tools. I have the tools.

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If you want to learn it,
we're here. But if you want to

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outsource your future to one of these
clowns, right, and all of these

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clowns, by the way, you
know, are agents of Israel, every

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single one of them. They're all
Zionus, and they've hijacked by the way

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Christianity, and they've duplicitly taken advantage
of the American Christians to think that design

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as an equals Christianity, which it
isn't. But what our movement educates people

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on the fundamental view that the future
is up to you and you have to

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learn how to fight. Now.
I have created those tools. So that's

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what you're referring to, David.
So in every state now, for that

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matter, all over the world.
Now we have we're in about one hundred

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plus countries in the United States,
in every state, and our leaders who

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are running our movement, the first
thing they're teaching people is if you want

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to vote for doctor Shiva, you
also have to be willing to stand up

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for yourself. It's not about him
saving you. Doctor Shiva will offer you,

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know, you the analysis of tools. I'll get on the ground and

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fight every day, David. I've
been doing that all my life, since

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I was seventeen years old or twelve
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activist. But the American people need
to rise up, bottoms up and fight.

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And so if you looked at that
debate that took place, you had

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one guy who's a complete liar and
another guy whose brain is mush Yeah.

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Right, it's the one unethical individual
finding a very unhealthy individual. And I

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was hoping that maybe the takeaway from
that, you know, before it,

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before it happened, there was one
piece on reason they said, well,

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maybe the best outcome of this will
be if it was really really bad,

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and it was really really bad,
and I was hoping, and I said

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it on Friday, I said it
again today. I'm hoping that people will

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see that there, as you point
out, there is no savior coming.

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That's what I try to focus on
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That's how we got to do this, not top down. The top down

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is totally corrupt. And so I
think that's a very important message that we

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both agree on that we've got to
work from the bottom up. And I

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do want to talk more about that. I've got a couple of other comments

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here. Let me throw these actually
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Coast South. It'll never change as
long as their federal fiat money system to

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corrupt all things like it has.
What do you say about that? What

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about that the dollar status is reserve
and the petro dollar and all the that

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stuff. Is that about to change? What do you think, Well,

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I think we don't want to put
the symptom separate from the cause. Okay.

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What has happened, David for the
last fifty years. And by the

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way, in late eighties, there
was an academic meeting of the leading scholars

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in the world. They got together
on the East Coast and the decision was

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made, and we can do a
whole video on this. At this meeting

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that in New York that we must
demoralize the American public so they never build

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a bottoms up workers movement. Okay. And so, starting from that day

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to today, the effort of the
elites has been to demoralize people to never

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actually get their hands dirty, go
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mobilize the movement like we're doing for
Truth from Health or our campaign.

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They don't want working people out independently
organizing, David, they don't want them

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doing that. So the viewer's comments
there have two aspects. Yes, he's

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addressed saying one of the many facets
of corruption and ways that the swarm enslaves

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us through a Fiat money system.
There many ways they also enslave us by

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controlling the water supply and the food. So people can't even think about the

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Fiat money supply. Okay, they
don't have they're losing their intelligence even to

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think about that. You say,
there's many, many ways that they shackle

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us, But regardless of that,
the number one way that the establishment shackles

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us is to demoralize people to just
pontificate all day, to talk about things,

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but never to get up and build
movements. So if you think about

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a guy like Noam Chomsky, he
writes a book called Manufacturing Consent, which

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is a detailed analysis of how the
swarm controls us. But Chomsky demoralizes anyone

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from ever building a bottoms up movement. So you'll see all these grifters on

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the internet talking, talking, talking, doing deep analysis, but they're not

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out there doing the hard practical work
of how you build a movement, teaching

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people the tools and put the ownus
on them. We're the only force right

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now on the planet doing that in
a systematic way. No I would encourage

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the viewer there, come to our
open house. We'll teach you how to

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fight. What you're describing is a
symptom. It's an obvious symptom. There

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are many things like that, but
the root of it is that for the

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last seventy years, the American people
have been demoralized to outsource their future to

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everything, to watch WWE wrestling all
day, right to vote for one of

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these politicians. And when someone like
me comes along bottoms up, it's so

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new they're not even thinking, wait
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We're actually collecting our signatures to get
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we're on the ballot in Utah.
The first time a naturalized citizen has

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been is on the ballot in the
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we couldn't do it. So and
this goes to the heart of the

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founders of the United States, which
believed in what the and a lot of

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people, a lot of ninety nine
percent of the lawyers don't know about this

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principle call non justiciable issues. The
founders of the United States knew, the

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framers that there would be issues that
come up that even their articles and their

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tenement, you know, the Bill
of Rights, couldn't conceive of. So

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there they had a room for non
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that would create new laws. And
this is why bottoms up movements are

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central in the minds of the framers
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So you had stupid people like Arnold
Schwarzenegger, Oh, you can't run

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for president you're from you're a naturalized
citizen. Well yeah, just pontificating you

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can't. But if you build the
bottoms up movement and you sa wait a

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minute, I got hundreds of thousands
of people want me on the ballot,

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that becomes a reality. Like anything. Women didn't have the right to vote.

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Afghan women had the right to vote
before American women. Well, there

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was a bottoms up movement that was
built. Right if you went to the

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late seventeen hundreds and you went to
the Federal Supreme Court and you said,

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hey, I'm a black per so
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restaurant, they throw out the case. This is why we need movements.

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Movements came, we created the fourteenth
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we're doing. David. The framers
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I do believe though that you know, as a process for changing the

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Constitution, that would be something other
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let me there's a couple of people
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and I'd like to get your clarification
about this. I'll read their comments

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here. Texas Coast South says only
people have rights. When you work for

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government, you have personal rights,
yes, but not rights to trample on

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others. And then school down.
Let me get the other one that was

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there. Another one rational lampooner says, we tell government what it's allowed to

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do. It has no rights of
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I've said in the past and this
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creatures of the state. They exist
by government granted privileges states. When we

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talk about them, and we look
at the Tenth Amendment, it talks about

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the powers of the states and of
the peoples of it's not delegated if the

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powers are not delegated to the federal
government. So states have powers. Corporations

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are creatures of the state. They
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created in the image of God,
as the Decoration of Independence acknowledges. So

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how do you see that fitting in, Well, David, it gets back

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to the earlier point you said,
as an aside, there are fundamental rights

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that exist independent of all government,
you know, divine rights of people.

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And I think the Founders had this
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that's a central piece there now in
the manifestation of the United States and laws,

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etc. Right, how these are
translated, there's three ways these we

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get our rights. And this is
something everyone. No rights are given to

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us because they're just inalienable. We
as human beings have to fight for these

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rights. Yes, they may be
inalienable, just like everyone is a beautiful

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soul. But ultimately how you express
yourself on this. You may be a

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beautiful soul. People say, oh, he's such a beautiful soul. Yeah,

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but he's a criminal. He goes
and kills people. Right. So

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in the same way, when organizations
get together, yes we have these inalien

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inalienable rights, but do we as
a human organization exhibit those rights, those

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inalienable rights. Well, that's where
you get into this contradiction. Why,

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this is why we call the fight
the struggle. We have to fight for

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them, We have to fight against
these people inhibiting those and this is central

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to understand. So if you look
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three ways or amendments. Right,
we have a two thirds you know,

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majority of Congress, right, or
you have a constitutional convention called or the

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fact that rulings take place at the
Supreme Court level, presidential rulings and they

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are used like in the Chevron case
for forty years, okay, because by

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the constitution those don't really exist,
right. So yeah, and I have

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I have always had a problem with
Marvray versus Madison because the it wasn't in

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the Constitution, but the Supreme Court
gave themselves that power. Jefferson said,

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well, that's it, it's over
when he saw that. Essentially, so

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it is. It's kind of been
a you know, very clever the way

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they asserted these these powers that are
there. But yeah, so you have

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this, you have this fact that
this there's these multiple interconnected things going on,

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which at a certain point in time
what we call the law, right,

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and but key among all these things, I think people keep forgetting and

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the established wants us to forget this. They're forgetting this other piece, which

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is the people. The political process
of people rising up bottoms up because the

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original article says only she, only
he can be president. For example,

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Well, how did that happen if
it wasn't for women rising up? Right?

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They went to the Democrats to asked
for the right to vote, right,

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they laughed at them. Then the
nineteenth Amendment was created, which applied

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the equal protection clause to women from
the fourteenth Amendment. But none of that

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would have occurred if there was not
a bottoms up movement. And this is

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what we need to understand. And
I understand, I agree with that.

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You know, I think the movements
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important for them to you know,
we have to have some kind of an

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established thing, just like you're talking
about the nineteenth Amendment, or we had

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the eighteenth Amendment where they prohibited an
alcohol than twenty one where they brought it

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back. So those types of things
are driven from the ground up. But

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I think it also they need to
know dot the iron cross. He but

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David, that always comes later.
Politicians never do. What's I mean?

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You look at in Trump versus Anderson
on March Fords twenty twenty four, this

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is a very important ruling. The
Colorado courts denied Trump access to the ballot

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in Colorado, and they said that
he violated the Section three of the Insurrection

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Act of the Fourteenth Amendment, so
by constitutional provisions he had violated that.

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They ruled on that and they threw
them off the ballot in two court rulings.

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Then the Supreme Court stepped in,
swooped in, and they said,

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whoa, Whoaoh, you can't do
this. Why because they said, we're

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going to have a patchwork. That's
what was put forward, a patchwork of

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states, each with their own laws
on how you run for president. Very

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very important ruling, and they said, even if you have a constitutional provision

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that's being violated at the federal level
by a federal candidate, the states have

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no no right to deny ballot access. Is that was a nine to zer

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ruling. Yeah, because they didn't
want the United States as an organism to

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fall apart, which is what was
post Civil War. Again, these are

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some very very fundamental rulings are taking
place, and I think everyone needs to

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really understand what's going on. So
that ruling is important to my running for

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president because when I'm trying to get
on the ballot, some people are confused

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about what took place between naturalized and
quote unquote natural born, which has never

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defined the Fourteenth Amendment, the Nineteenth
Amendment. You know Schneider versus Rusk,

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Bowling versus Sharp That there being other
rulings, including Trump versus Anderson. So

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if it wasn't for Trump versus Anderson, which is a Supreme Court Trump would

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be thrown off the ballot in Colorado. So you do have long before constitutional

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amendments get passed. You have these
Supreme Court rulings which are very very powerful.

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They sustain a body of law.
So yes, maybe one day Congress

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will do something. But what that
ruling said was only Congress has a right

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to decide who becomes President's quite amazing
this ruling. So when I'm getting on

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the ballot, it's the same thing. No state has a right to deny

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me ballot access by pointing to a
constitutional provision. If I win the presidency,

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only Congress has a right to say, you know what, we now

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have to interpret natural born versus naturalized
citizen, and then they had to have

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to deny me access to the presidency. You say, but this is quite

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powerful. It basically goes down to
the central part of non justiciable issues,

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bottoms up movements. So let me, I've got a person here mad mem

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thank you and says good morning David
and doctor Sheiev. You are both throw

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on God's work. Go to Shiva
for President dot com. I don't think

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we mentioned that earlier. That's your
website. Is there a different website for

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the you know, the training classes
that you got? Yes? Yeah,

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yeah, so the operating system what
I've created is Truthfreedomhealth dot com. David,

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truthfreedomhealth dot com. Everyone, If
you want to save yourself and get

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off the plantation, I can't do
it for people, go to Truthfromhealth dot

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com. Become a warrior scholar.
That training teaches people how to think from

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a system's approach. It is the
same training I used to teach at MIT.

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The elites learned this training. This
is how the few are able to

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control the many. And if you
want to know more about how the few

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control the many, the website that
I recommend people go to is Shatter the

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Swarm dot com. Shatter the Swarm
dot com s h A T T e

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R. Now our campaign is fueled
by this people who've gone through this training,

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and everyone should get one of these
bumper stickers. And people can go

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to Shiva for President dot com s
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com and everyone should go there get
one of these bumper stickers because this gives

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you the ability to use your own
car as a very powerful vehicle to reach

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one hundred thousand people a day Shiva
Numeral for President dot com. But and

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every Thursday's David at eleven am and
eight pm. We have a open house

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and people can go to Vshiva dot
com slash orientation or come to our town

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hall Shiva for President dot com slash
town hall. But those are some of

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the mechanics of people get involved,
Okay, and so those there's links to

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those other websites at Shiva the number
four President dot com dot com. Yeah,

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okay, good, yep. I've
got another question here. This is

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from d G eight. So,
doctor Shiva, what's your thoughts on APAK

447
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.599
bragging on their own website of the
four hundred plus politicians they own America first.

448
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Well, it's not America first.
That's so you know. And by

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the way, the biggest person who
is a beneficiary of this, who's going

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to be even a bigger beneficiary,
is Trump. Yeah. Trump is the

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biggest Zionist. And you can see
what I said. I don't want to

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use those words here on the show. He you know, he serves Israel,

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Biden serves Israel, Boobie Kennedy serves
Israel. All of them do.

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To me, I'm the only anti
Zionist candidate, and I've been talking about

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this for forty years. Anti Zionism
is not anti Semitism. It was Trump

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in twenty sixteen who passed an executive
order which said that we must equate anti

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Zionism with anti Semitism. Now,
after October seventh, everyone knows that was

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an engineered attack on quote unquote Israel
by Hamas, which is funded by Israel.

459
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:36.400
I mean, it's obvious, it's
right in front of your face.

460
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Right after that attack took place,
I started re educating people on the difference

461
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between Zionism and Judaism. One of
those videos, in spite of all the

462
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.239
shadow banning, got I think like
fifty to seventy million views David globally.

463
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.480
Okay, it was what Roy said, I'm the only presidential candidate who doesn't

464
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:59.079
bleep. You know, zionis bleep. Okay, and people can go find

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that. But that video went viral, and the difference here is that on

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So then on December seventh, Mike
Johnson, a quote unquote Christian you know,

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Zionist pass to bill in Congress equating
anti Zionism with anti Semitism. And

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then about four weeks ago the entire
Congress passed to Bill three ten the House

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to seventy saying that going into the
future they will be using the definition of

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antisemitism pursued to the Israel Holocaust Remembrance
Alliance, which is a complete Zionist nutjob

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organization. Yeah, they allsourced it, didn't even define it themselves. Yeah.

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Well, if you go read it, the seven of the eleven examples

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they give of what is anti semitism
is if you say anything against the state

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of Israel, including if you say
Israel is worse than their state, that's

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anti Semitism, which is really anti
Zionism, Okay, which is a political

476
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ideology. So Trump is one of
the biggest zion blah you know, bleep

477
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.159
bleepers. Okay, you can fill
that blank in Biden is so and Booby

478
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Kennedy. Booby Kennedy said that Alastinian
people are the most pampered people on the

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planet, and then he compared the
people in Gaza to Nazis that we must

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go in there and wipe them out. And look at how great Germany became

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after we wiped out the Nazis.
So if we wipe these people out,

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So why is this Because all of
these people are part of the swarm,

483
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all of them they serve Israel.
They do not serve the American working people.

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And if we want to those people, even the Free Palestine movement has

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been infiltrated by quote unquote liberal Zionis
who keep talking about, you know,

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cease fire now. They've been saying
that for forty years. Ceasefire now basically

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means Israel gets to move two steps
forward, one step back. It doesn't

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mean end the occupation. Very different
slogan, David, we must end the

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occupation of America. And this viewer
is rightfully saying that that APAC is gloating

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that they control Congress, and Congress
is a representative body of the American people,

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which means between US and Congress now
is APAC, which means Zionism.

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Yeah, and central to the founders
was that Congress ultimately is a representative body

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of we the people. So the
House, five percent of those people are

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controlled by APAK. Cynthia McKinney,
who was a congresswoman who just endorsed me.

495
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She was thrown out years ago,
years ago for bringing this out,

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for exposing the involvement of Zionism in
Congress. Well, I think it's it's

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pretty clear. You know, it
was also DeSantis jumped into that, you

498
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know, to get money, and
equating criticism of a political state Israel with

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anti Semitism and then making it a
criminal offense, the type of stuff that

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we're starting to see in this law
that everybody's being concerned about it in Germany,

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00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:04.840
but also in Ireland. You know
they're doing that as well. We're

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going to make hate speech an imprisonable
offense and lack of people up in prison.

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Well, they started doing that.
The Republican Party did that in Florida

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with that is so I think that's
two very important things. I don't support

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any kind of hate speech regulation.
I think you can't have it for speech.

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You can't have freedom of speech if
there's going to be such a thing

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as free speech, I think,
But David, it just happened when it

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was it a couple of months ago, when they passed that bill in Congress.

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It was again, if you notice
all of this is being done by

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the Republican right. That's right,
that's right. The Republican right. Everyone

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listening, you magatards are the ones
who are supporting this, yep, that's

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right, wearing Make America Great Again
and literally supporting Israel. So we have

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now a law that's going to go
to Congress which is going to give the

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Department of Education infinite rights to take
away money from schools that, let's say

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support Let's say mit tomorrow one invite
me to speak on anti Zionism. They

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would say, you can't invite that
speaker, he's anti Semitic. Equating anti

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Zionism with anti Semitism will remove your
federal funds. Or let's say a high

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school wanted to invite me to come
speak, David. Right. And this

519
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.480
is being done by the so called
Republican right, not by the woke Democrats,

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00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:25.800
but the Republican right is supporting massive
fascism, pro Israel, anti American

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00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:29.880
interests. And this is in the
sphere. Out of it. This is

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Donald Trump. That's why when I
looked at that debate, David, I

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00:39:31.199 --> 00:39:35.320
don't know if you want to go
there. Yeah, we're getting close to

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00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:37.559
the end of the show, but
we got a few minutes so we can

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go over a little bit. Give
us your take on the show. Now,

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00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:46.519
you just like some other people,
many people live stream the debate,

527
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:50.800
even though from CNN, they did
it on Twitter. Must said go ahead

528
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:53.599
and sue me. This is important. So you had commentators who are doing

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it and commenting live. You did
it as a candidate and responding to the

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00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:02.320
questions tels bit about that. Of
course people can see that. I bet

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you if we had streamed CNN,
we would have been sued, but not

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00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:09.079
Booby Kennedy. Okay, after I
decided to do then Booby steals everything we

533
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.480
do. Okay, Booby Kennedy is
an agent of the swarm. That's who

534
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:19.599
he is. He's fake independent,
He's a Zionist puppet. Okay, completely,

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00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.920
they're all so. But anyway,
if you looked at that debate separate

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from the fact, so what I
saw interesting was we know Biden isn't on

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00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.440
a set of cocktails, right that
keep his brain from going mush. And

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we know here Trump is just a
liar. He'll say anything he needs to

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00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.840
say to get as much money as
he can. And we've had this discussion

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00:40:37.320 --> 00:40:42.119
with other people like Alex Jones does
the same thing. Right, even though

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00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.840
he knows things are wrong, he'll
do it to raise money. Okay,

542
00:40:45.440 --> 00:40:51.360
so Trump is a master grifter.
So here's a lying master grifter who has

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sex with prostitutes, you know,
while his wife is pregnant. And over

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here you have a guy Biden whose
brain has essentially become mush. Now what

545
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:02.000
I found fascinating is, again,
if you go to Central principles, anything

546
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.400
you see on mainstream media is something
they want you to see. Yeah,

547
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.719
that's right. Okay, so they
wanted people to see a decrepit brought Biden.

548
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.559
Now what how do they do that? Did they change his medical cocktail

549
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.199
mix before that debate because he looked
horrible? And the next day they gave

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him the right cocktails where he looks
really strong. So I was, I

551
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.760
mean, it's it's amazing, right, So the puppy up er yea,

552
00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:30.920
yeah, right, So I would
argue that someone, remember the swarm has

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its own internal conflicts. Someone has
decided they maybe don't want Biden, they

554
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:42.440
want somebody else because they're going to
serve Zionism even better. Okay, So

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00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.719
I found it quite profound that they
made we knew how bad they made Biden

556
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:50.800
look. Yes, okay, and
the next day is going So I just

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00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.639
want everyone to alert people that everything
that you see on media is theater.

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00:41:54.159 --> 00:41:58.440
It is brought to you by the
swarm to serve the swarm. And you

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know, looking at the the fact
that they the timing that they did it.

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We've always had the debates after the
convention. Neither of these guys is

561
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.000
been nominated as the official old person, right, but they're notting each other

562
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and it's all Usually the conventions are
in late August. You don't have the

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first debate until the end of September, and then you have September, mid

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October, the latter part of October. I mentioned this many times to the

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audience. This time they just let
leapfrogged all that stuff, and I think

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it was for the purpose of sabotaging
him and getting somebody else in there.

567
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You have any predictions after who you
think it'll be, Well, I think

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I mean, I've said this from
day one. I've always said that they

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wanted Gavin Newsom, you know,
I think that's where they want, you

570
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know, someone in there. Maybe
they'll throw a brown face like Kamala Harrison

571
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there, who's a Brahman who's also
a Zionist all, you know, But

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I think that's their game. But
it was obvious to everyone watching they want

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Biden out. Whoever within the swarm
right, they have their own internal conflicts,

574
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.639
and you can see all of Silicon
Valley supporting Trump. In fact,

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00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.239
CNN is supporting Trump. Right.
Everybody's like, how did this happen?

576
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.840
And we never knew that he had
any cognitive issues? Yeah, exactly,

577
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:07.960
And the next day everyone should go
watch his rally next Biden is all fired

578
00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:14.079
up dot because he got the right
cocktails. So whoever engineered, they say,

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00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.519
make sure he got the wrong cocktails
before the debate and the right and

580
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.440
to your point, David, the
timing of these debates, why would you

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do this debate when general election debates
are not even supposed to take place after

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the convention? So everything people see
elections are selections and it's all theater.

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00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:34.199
Yeah, well, we're right at
the end of the program. But let

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00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.559
me let me get you. You
talk a lot about the swarm, that's

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00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.480
your term, defined that a little
bit for people. How do you see

586
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.119
the swarm? Is that the globalist? Is that the bureaucracy, the deep

587
00:43:42.119 --> 00:43:44.159
statey, how do you see the
swarm. Yeah, so, David,

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00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.159
I have a much more precise and
tangible and accessible definition. So takes away

589
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:52.400
a lot of the quote unquote you
know what the left or other people call

590
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:58.400
conspiracy, right, And if people
go to shatter theoswarm dot com, okay,

591
00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:02.039
shatterform dot com, you will understand
it. So I really encourage everyone

592
00:44:02.039 --> 00:44:06.039
if you want to start your first
level of learning how to fight, start

593
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.760
with knowing who the enemy is.
Who's a swarm. They're not a particular

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geographical location Israel, the Pentagon or
some location North Korea. First of all,

595
00:44:15.760 --> 00:44:22.400
it's not spatially based, nor is
it not temporarily based something over time.

596
00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.840
I know at this location the swarm
exists and now doesn't, okay.

597
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:30.280
And it's not consolidated in a particular
set of people like the quote unquote the

598
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:34.840
Rothchild, there's not, or the
quote unquote the Jews, or the quote

599
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:40.760
unquote Wall Street. It is a
highly interconnected, telepathic, interconnected group of

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people who may have their own contradictions
from time to time because they it's WWE

601
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:51.599
wrestling, right, blah blah blah, But overall they move together as a

602
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:58.719
blog. If you watch you know
those starf I think these birds that move

603
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:01.920
over the ocean at that. See
that they move like this. One time

604
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.639
they're moving. One group may move
this way, but they ultimately move together.

605
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.880
Okay, that is what the swarm
is. It's a much more precise

606
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:15.760
understanding, Okay, of how and
you can learn how the few control the

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00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:20.320
eight billion of us. And so
I've taken complex control systems made it very

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00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:23.400
accessible. So everyone should go to
shatterthswarm dot com. Step one, if

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you want to save yourself, understand
who the enemy is. Step two,

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David is everyone needs to understand this
graph here, if you can see it,

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lifespan in the United States is going
down, cost of living is going

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up. These people are literally killing
you and everyone should go to shatter the

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swarm. But I am here to
provide people tools on how to fight.

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But you must want to take responsibility
for yourself. You have to want to

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save yourself. If you don't want
to save yourself, that's why we're in

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this condition. If you look at
this graph, this has been going on

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since nineteen seventy, David, we
keep thinking, Oh Bernie's going to do

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it, Ooh Trump's going to do
it, Ooh Booby may do it now,

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Biden may do it. We got
to get off our butts and be

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real Americans. We have to want
to fight for ourselves. That is the

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only way out of it. Now. My run for president gives people the

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opportunity to have someone like me lead
people to the extent my leading is,

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Hey, here's the water. This
is where you go. You want to

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be a good horse and drink the
water. That's what I've created, that

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water. That mana which is truth, freedom, health. But if you

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don't want to do that, well
please I will give you a recommendation letter

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to go vote for Biden or Booby
because you're going to be flowly cooked like

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the frog. So that's what our
movements about, David. It's really about

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personal responsibility. And that's what I
like. That's what I like about it.

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It's you know, I think we
put way too much information, too

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much hope on the presidency and your
message that we've got to do it ourselves.

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We've got to do it from the
bottom up. That is exactly what

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needs to happening. And I agree
with you about the swarm. Yeah,

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it isn't a particular place global governance
is distributed. And yeah, it's a

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good analogy that you got with the
flocks of birds that are out there.

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Thank you so much for joining us
again. People can go to Shatter Theswarm

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dot com or you can go to
Shiva number four president dot com. Thank

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you very much, doctor Shiva.
Appreciate it. Thanks David, be well,

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best to you and your son and
your family. Thank you for having

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me show. Be well. Thank
you, David, you too, Bye

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bye bye. The common Man.
They created common Core, dumbed down our

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children. They created common past,
track and control us their Commons project to

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make sure the commoners own nothing and
the communist future. They see the common

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man as simple, not sophisticated ordinary. But each of us has worth and

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dignity created in the image of God. That is what we have in common.

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That is what they want to take
away. Their most powerful weapons are

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isolation, deception, intimidation. They
desire to know everything about us, while

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they hide everything from us. It's
time to turn that around and expose what

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they want to hide. Please share
the information and links you'll find at the

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Davidnightshow dot com. Thank you for
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