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Hello, everyone, Welcome back to
a new episode of the Poker Girl Podcast.

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As I dropped my phone all over
the table a little bit excited because

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we have a winner in the twenty
twenty three World Series of Poker main event.

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Oh baby, what a day.
It was a fast day. Too

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fast, it was. It was
probably too fast. I'm sure production was

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like, can we slow them down
so we can actually make an episode out

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of this day? But you know, I'm sure they'll work up some editing

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magic. I mean there was a
lot of action. Okay, it was

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straight out of the gate. You
know, you had Adam Wineman blasting away

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a lot of action or sorry,
Adam Wineman, I'm just merging players.

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I'm Adam Adam. Adam Wyman would
be Adam Walton blasting away. So yeah,

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well we'll get into all the stuff
that happened. Daniel Wineman is the

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winner. Twelve point one millie in
the bank for Daniel Wineman. We'll also

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talk about some of the other stuff
that has been happening at the World Series

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of Poker today the second to last
day, the penultimate day, as producer

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Rich Ryan would say, loves that
word, it's the best word. Also

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got a pretty wild announcement from the
w SUP today. We'll we'll talk about

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that one as well. And uh
yeah, I guess this is the second

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to last podcast. Maybe we'll do
a couple more. Definitely do one maybe

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tomorrow or the next day. We
got to do our finale pod whenever.

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That's gonna be probably hopefully tomorrow,
Yeah, hopefully tomorrow. Um, we're

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gonna try and do a special podcast
with the winner, Daniel Wineman. Um,

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you'll hear from him when he talked
to Karas Scott today. But then

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we're gonna get him on his own, you know, kind of like we

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did with Karai Aldemir a couple of
years ago when he one the last World

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Series of Poker over at the Rio. So we'll get Wineman on eventually.

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Ten thousand dollars WSP Main Event record
setting ten thousand dollars WSP Main Event ten

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thousand and forty three entries, a
prize pool of ninety three million, three

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hundred ninety nine thousand, nine hundred
dollars, absolutely incredible, how large the

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event was, how large that prize
pool was already mentioned, the first place

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prize twelve million, one hundred thousand, and of course, as Tim likes

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to say, plus the five hundred
thousand dollars gold, diamond, silver,

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all the I mean, the blinged
out bracelet. I mean, it's crazy.

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That thing is absolutely crazy. The
tournament starts today. Three players are

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left. You have Stephen Jones in
the chip lead, you have Daniel Wineman

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in second place. You have Adam
Walton in third place. Adam Walton came

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out flying out of the gate,
playing I think every hand for like the

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first handful of hands, but his
chips deck wasn't really going up. I

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mean it kind of went down and
went up. It was kind of just

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just bouncing around right where he started
the day with. He gets in this

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crazy hand with Steven Jones, where
Jones opened ace queen off Walton three bets

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ace king. Jones takes a little
bit of time, thinks, calls flop,

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comes down. I think it was
jack seven five with two diamonds on

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it. Neither player has a diamond, they both have black cards. There's

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a bet of I think eight million, maybe eight and a half million from

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Walton. Jones takes a while and
he delects to raise to twenty two million

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with just his ace Queen high.
I think it was almost snapped that Walton

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announced that he was all in.
It's like boom, all in, So

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he goes all in. Jones finds
his cards the balk and we're just like,

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what the heck is going on?
This is crazy. It definitely seemed

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like early on when they were three
handed, that Walton was clearly attacking Jones.

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There was a lot of playing back
at Jones, a lot of raising

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and re raising, and then against
Wineman he seemed to be a little bit

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more cautious on how he was approaching
that one, which kind of makes sense

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because both Jones and Walton did express
at times, you know that it's kind

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of unfortunate to see Daniel Wyman with
so many chips, So it seemed like

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in a way they were they were
worried about Daniel Wineman, the professional player

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who's been doing this for a long
time, has had a lot of success.

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That said, you know, Wineman's
no out there like totally blasting away.

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He plays like a pretty safe style
of poker. Of course he'll go

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for it at times, but you
know, I think he plays a little

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bit closer to the vest in it. Then I got the sense that these

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players thought he played so that was
just interesting, and I thought that it

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played out kind of that way to
start. So then eventually Walton he picks

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up two eights in just a crazy
hand to bust. And there's been a

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lot of talk on social media about
this being like a punt. I don't

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think it's really all that bad,
given how Walton played. So they're playing

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one point two five million, two
point five million, and Jones makes it

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six million on the button with I
believe it was Queen six of diamonds.

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Walton flats from the small blind with
pocket eights. Wineman is in the big

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blind and he makes it twenty seven
million. He's got two aces. I

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mean, what a time to pick
up aases. Jones gets out of the

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way. Walton like as soon as
Jones folds, Walton says, I'm all

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in for two hundred and nine point
five million, which was I think eighty

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four big blinds pocket eights. Wineman
snaps him off with the aces and here

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we go. Four million dollars is
what these guys are getting paid guaranteed.

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The jump is two and a half
million to six and a half million.

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I mean that's incredible. I know
you're Wineman and you're have Aces and you're

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snapping this off. But if Wineman
loses this spot, he's left with like

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fifteen or sixteen million, so he's
absolutely crushed. I mean, I understand

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the shove is like a very big
shove eighty four big blind so maybe not

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shove there. But I mean,
listen, if Wineman's got I don't know,

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Ace ten of diamonds Ace Jack suited, like, this play just works

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right, But if he's got Pucket
Jack's, I mean, good lord,

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I don't know, I don't know. I know it's crazy, right,

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Like do you want to take it
up against like, you know, an

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queen of king queen stuff like that. I mean, I'm assuming Wineman thinks

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he's probably the best of the three
players, and he might actually maybe followed

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that. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know, you know, it's

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it's crazy, um, I mean
I don't. I don't think the play

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was that crazy given what we've seen
from Walton, Like, I mean the

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guy goes for it. Yeah,
Like so that's why, you know,

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I kind of expected him to go
for it in this spot, and I

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think that this money just kind of
gets all in here. I mean,

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maybe he can just call. Maybe
he can if he does want to put

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in the forebet, put it in
the forebet. That's not all in,

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you know. And then what does
Wineman do? Does Wineman just flat being

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able to play in position? Does
Wyman put it all in hoping to get

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called? I mean, yeah,
so just crazy? The aces hold up.

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Walton did turn a gut shot needing
a six on the river. A

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six or and eight would have given
him the double up here, but the

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aces hold up for Daniel Wineman,
and with that pot, Walton goes out

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in the third takes home four million
dollars. And then afterwards, well,

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well let's get into the interview.
First, Walton's talked with Jeff Platt after

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he busted, and then we'll come
back and we'll talk about heads up play.

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Adam Walton, third place in the
World Series of Poker main event some

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up for us. How you're feeling
right now? I mean, it's been

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an amazing experience. Obviously, you
know you want to, you know,

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finish it off, but it's been
a great experience. Both guys have been

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great. So we're gonna have a
cool champion to make sure I give off

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that rock. Yeah okay, but
yeah, it's been a great experience.

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Couldn't have asked for more. Rail
is great And yeah, speaking of the

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rail, I feel like you had
a rail for the last four days of

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this tournament. What does it mean
to you to have that kind of support

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from them? I got a great
group of friends. I'm glad that everyone

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I was able to come out and
enjoy the experience with me. It's not

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every year that this gets to happen, so yeah, it was a great

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time. I know you said that
it's not about the money. It's not

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something that you're really thinking about.
Will you allow yourself to think about it

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now? I mean, four million
dollars is a lot of money, but

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like I'm not sure honestly how much
like that changes like my life and whatnot.

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So, like you know, I'm
gonna go buy a boat. Other

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than that, I don't really know
what I'm what I'm gonna do. But

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yeah, it's obviously like a very
large amount of money that I'm thrilled to

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have got. So is it gonna
be a pretty sick boat. It's probably

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gonna be a pretty sick boat.
I mean, listen, you come into

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the final table at the end of
the day, you know, or at

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the beginning of it, all nine
players left you the chip leader of one

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hundred and forty three million or whatever
it was. You're able to make that

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to three handed play. I think
like when you come in as the chip

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leader and a chip leader in the
way that Walton came in, you know,

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he had a pretty big lead.
Making it too three handed is the

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goal, yeah, I mean that's
where where you ultimately want to end up.

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If you bust before three handed or
before four handed whatever whatever that second

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day is, it can kind of
feel like a failure in a way,

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not that you totally failed, because
you know, you're probably cashing for seven

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figures unless you you know, somehow
bomb out in ninth place, but you're

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cashing for a ton of money,
so it's not a total failure. But

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like you, when you have that
lead, you can see the opportunity at

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ahead of you. You know,
you really want to grab that and make

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it to the second day. So
Walton did that, and he's got four

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million dollars in the bank. So
I think it's great and he's going to

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be getting a great boat. So
then Daniel Wineman, because he knocks out

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Walton in that massive pot. He
takes four hundred and forty three million up

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against Jones's stack of one hundred and
fifty nine point five million, So just

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an absolutely massive lead. Here the
blinds are still one point two five million,

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two point five million. There's a
two point five million big blind anton

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when heads up play begins, and
I think heads up play lasted twenty four

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hands, didn't really take that long
that the two exchange some jabs back and

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forth early on, but Wineman never
dipped below four hundred million. I even

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think he never dipped below four hundred
and ten million. Yea, So just

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kind of some small jabs here and
there. And then the final hand was

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I mean, personally, I don't
like it. I mean, I just

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I don't like the way that it
was played on Jones's behalf. You know,

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I know a lot of people are
making a lot a big thing about

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the eight hand from Walton. I
mean, this hand to me seems probably

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a little bit crazier. So this
hand goes Jones is on the button,

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he makes it seven millions. So
I feel like that's a little bit of

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a larger size to start given what
you you often see in heads up play.

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But they're on the deeper side.
So whatever, Wineman makes the call

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from the big blind. Jones has
jack eight off, Wineman has king jack.

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It comes jack five two with two
spades. Neither player has a spade.

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Wineman checks Jones bets six millions.
A little bit of a down bed

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there. Wineman goes a little bit
more than three ax on a check raise.

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He makes it eighteen point five million. So check six million. On

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the jack five deuce two spade flop. Wineman makes it eighteen point five million.

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Jones makes the call. Okay,
now, Jones, when he makes

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the call, he's got one hundred
and forty six million behind. The turn

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is a four and off suit four. Wineman puts out a wager of thirty

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eight million. I think the pot
was what fifty something million? Um,

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so Wineman sizing up here. UM, I like it. You know,

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I thought in the momentum I think
this was still or sorry, this was

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not on the stream with rem Quin. I. I was just talking and

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chat with some people as we were
watching, and I thought that he should

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you know size up here. I
think it'll put Jones in some really tough

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spots, you know, if he's
got some flush jaws, if he's got

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you know, a pair in his
hand, if he's got like I don't

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know, the ACE five stuff like
that that has second pair with a gutter,

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Now obviously you can target some some
worse jack stuff like that. So

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he goes thirty eight million. Now, Jones goes into the tank for a

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long time, and it was an
interesting tank because like he's thinking for a

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while, kind of in his normal
pose, and then he starts puts his

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hands onto the table and like kind
of looks like he's breathing hard. Then

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the hands come back on the table, then the hands go back under the

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table, like like back and forth. I mean, I thought, I

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don't know the exact time, but
it felt like this was like two minutes

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in the tank at least maybe a
little bit longer. Eventually he says he's

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all in, and I'm just like, whoa this is? Like, I

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mean, I just don't I think
you're gonna fold out like everything that's worse

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and get called by better in this
spot, Like I don't like what unless

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he's trying to target this specific kind
of king Jack Hardy's maybe, yeah,

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but that's hard because that's hard to
target the king Jackson, the queen jacks

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because you have a jack, there's
there's jack on the board. So how

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many people can have Jackson this spot? You know, It's like that's a

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little bit harder. Um, you
know, So I don't know, I

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think you just should call here and
then take a river and go from there.

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But so he moves all in U
Wineman doesn't snap. Wineman, you

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know, stands up from his chair
kind of looks over. Jones says,

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well, at least I faded the
snap though, And then the dealer's counting

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down the chips because Wineman wants an
exact count that you know. Wineman gets

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the count, he makes the call. He sees that Jones has just three

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outs. He immediately goes over to
his Rael, tells his Raley he's only

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got three outs. So both the
players over on their rails. They got

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to sweat the river, the rivers
in ace and that's it. That's all

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she wrote for Jones. Now listen, Jones played his ass off and collected

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six and a half million dollars,
which is frigging Austin. I think he

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gained some fans definitely, Yeah,
of course. I mean, listen,

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the guy played really well. His
energy, his positivity was very good.

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I'm sure we'll see plenty of him. Yeah, in the poker world.

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You know, he's he went.
He's an unknown player before this. I

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know he had that final table to
Classes years ago. I think it was

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twenty and eighteen, but you know, still pretty unknown player. But it'll

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be good to see a lot of
him. I think that, you know,

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a lot of people liked what they
saw from Steven Jones, and we'll

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play his elimination interview right now.
He also spoke with Jeff Platt on his

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way out Stephen Jones second place in
the World Series of Poker main event.

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How would you sum up this overall
experience. I mean, obviously, right

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now I'm a little upset. I
think tomorrow I'm gonna wake up very happy

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and be very grateful. I mean, obviously, you gotta get lucky to

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get here too. Wasn't the way
I wanted to turn out, but it's

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pretty tough to fold there. Um. I think he's got a lot of

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combo draws. I was like back
and forth in my head so many times.

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Such a tough decision, But kudos
to him. Played a great game.

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I had a great time. It
was fun. Do you allow yourself

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in this moment to take some pride
in what you've just accomplished. Maybe not

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for the next ten minutes, but
hopefully in a couple hours. I will.

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Yeah, once I go hang out
with my rail and my family,

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I think I'll be better. But
it's a little tough right now. And

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finally, you talked about waking up
tomorrow, You're also going to wake up

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tomorrow with a decent amount of cash. All that changed your life at all?

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Of course. I mean, you
know, I can do a lot

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of things for that money, so
start investing and set myself up nicely.

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So that was Stephen Jones. I
mean, I think you could get the

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sense in that interview that I know, like, at the end of the

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day, you win a ton of
money when you get to this spot.

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We've seen it time and time again. You finished, you know, second,

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third, fourth, and you can
make the manument foun table a ton

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of money that you've won, But
you're also so close then to the goal,

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and the goal is to win,
you know, It's like such a

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it's such a weird thing. I
can't imagine being in that spot. I

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mean, hopefully I'm in that spot
someday, but you know, you can't

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imagine because you and you hear it
from these guys all the time. Is

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like, you never imagine yourself making
the manuvent foul table, even though you

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play as in every single year,
you never imagine yourself winning the tournament.

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Right then you get to that point
and it's like, oh my gosh,

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I only got to beat out eight
peet people. I only got to beat

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out a couple more people. If
you're in Steven Jones's shoes, you only

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got to be out one more person, and then you're the champion. You're

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the one collecting twelve point one million
dollars. So I think as the days

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go on, you know, as
Jones mentioned there, you know, as

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he hangs out with his family and
his rail and all that sort of stuff,

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and that feeling of busting second place, being so close, will subside

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and he'll be a bit happy that
he finished in second place. He's got

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six and a half million dollars in
the bank now, you know, so

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good for him. Our winner,
Daniel Wineman believe he was oh for ten

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in THESP main event before this.
Yeah, never cashed. Can you believe

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the guy plays it every single year? Never cashed. I mean, listen,

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Wineman is a great guy. I
know him, You know him.

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Everyone out there that knows him says
the same thing. I mean, he's

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just always laughing, smiling, having
a good time, very humble. Um.

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I don't really expect too much to
change from him. Um, you

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know, going forward, maybe the
bets will get a little bit larger on

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the golf course, maybe he'll be
in some bigger, bigger mix game stuff

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like that. Um, but you
know, Dan Weinman, I mean,

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what an absolute crusher this this guy
is. You know, he played so

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so good. Have to mention also
that the final three players that came back

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today the were the three players that
were the three largest stacks when they were

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nine handed to start the final table. So all of those players carried over

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and then ultimately Dan Wineman goes on
to win. After Dan Weinman won,

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Kara Scott hopped on the mic to
talk to him. We'll play that winner

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interview for you right now. Daniel. You came in with such a commanding

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lead into the heads up, and
then that moment there where you see the

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river card and you go and your
at your rail and everyone hugs you.

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What's going through your mind? Then
there's so much stuff. It's it's it

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happened two minutes ago. There's a
billion thoughts. It's it's really hard to

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put into words. I've said it
before. You play this tournament every year,

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you never think you're gonna win,
you never think you're gonna final table,

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and for it to all come together
so well, it just felt like

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I played the best I've ever played
in my life. Just it's incredible.

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And you've done this in front of
family and friends and so many of the

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poker industry in the community here.
What does it feel like to perform on

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this stage in front of them.
It's unbelievable. You know, my best

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friends will tell you that I'm not
the most confident guy in the world when

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it comes to poker. You know, I'm fortunate to be friends with some

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of the best in the world,
and I've never considered myself one of them.

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Maybe that'll change a little bit now. But to put on this performance

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and really felt like I played my
a game all the last two days,

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it's awesome. When we spoke earlier, you said you love your job,

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you love your life. That's not
going to change. So how does your

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life change after something like this.
I still think my answer holds true.

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I mean, there's more money in
the bank. It's always nice. It

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takes a lot of stress off of
things in life. I still do really

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enjoy what I do for a living. I still will be out on the

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golf course very soon, and my
boss can probably expect me in the office

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this week. So something that wasn't
asked there. Did they make a deal?

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No, it was this confirmed.
Well, listen, here's the deal.

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I gotta give a shout out to
Blake, Bourgeois from Hope Blake,

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I'm saying your last name correctly,
who had a scoop for poker dot org,

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who said that he talked with Adam
Walton. And because yesterday I said

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that the players had all exchanged contact
information, I saw that happen. Blake

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talked to Adam Walton, said they
couldn't come to an agreement, so they

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decided to play it like normal.
Then, if you're watching the live stream,

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you'll know that when Wineman busts Walton
in third place, I believe Wineman

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is talking to Jason Mercier on Israel
about like the possibility of now talking about

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a deal, and I think Jason
said something like no play for it all,

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and Wineman was also, yeah,
I have too many chips now,

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like we're gonna play for it.
I mean, listen, Wineman's a gambler

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at the end of the day,
like he's willing to gamble. Um,

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So no deal. I mean I
confirmed that with multiple sources that no deal

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was made. Um. I think
Wineman himself when I think Matt Burkey put

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on social media, like you know, when they got to heads to play,

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like, he made a comment that
said like, so you know they

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chopped it evenly or something like that, right, or did an equity chop

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or whatever, and Dan Wineman later
respond and said, no, we got

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it all. So Dan Wineman one
twelve point one million, I mean,

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minus some swaps. We know a
bunch of people that had had swaps of

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him out there in the field.
So Wineman got it all. Man,

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I mean he probably had at least
eighty percent of himself. I have no

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idea. You know, well,
we'll ask him when we get him on

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the podcast in the next couple days
or so. I'll grill him on the

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exact numbers. I don't know if
they'll tell us, but we'll grill him

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on it. Funny note about Jason
Mosier. He was tournament was on the

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way. He was rushing in to
enter on that side. He had a

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trifle of coffees, a bag some
other stuff. He's about walked through and

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security he's like, no, you
can't come through. So here's my friend's

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playing. He's like, I can't
you know you need a wristband. And

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he's just like ah. He tries
to call him. I'm walking up and

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I'm like, I go to security, can't let him in. I think

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there's no, he needs a wristband. Like he just flew in just now,

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Like I'm just lying out of my
ass. I was like, he

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just flew in to watch this his
friend, his best friend is right there.

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I think he's no, he needs
a wristband. So I was like,

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all right, security, he's not
gonna fall from my bullshit. And

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Jason's like trying to call who knows
who? Obviously I don't know. Maybe

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he's even trying to call Wyman who
knows. But hey, Bud, I

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know you're busy, but can I
get a risk band? Wait a minute,

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anyway, I find him a wristband, get him a ristband. He

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gets in and he's on the rail
the whole day. But I thought that

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was kind of funny. We tried, we both tried to bluff the security

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gun and he called us down.
That day's high. I mean, they

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definitely need to somehow fix the whole
wristband thing. Um, it's a little

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bit of a mess. Um,
not gonna lie. Listen, I've had

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the opportunity. My good friend Gary
Gates made the final table. I was,

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I was on the rail. I
was working for Pocket Fives at the

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time. Lance Bradley said, listen, you're off, You're not. You're

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not doing this anymore. We'll cover
it from afar. No big deal,

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Go enjoy the rail. And I
mean, I know, so I know

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what the wristband situation is like,
and it's it's just a it's just a

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disaster. I mean, just just
especially when it's three hn. Just let

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everyone up there who cares. It
makes a good atmosphere, No big deal,

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you know, especially like listen,
I know you need wristbands, but

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like if the guy's wearing the guy's
shirt. I mean she's like he's in

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the crew, right, he's literally
day three, there's only three sections,

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like I get at the day day
two two? You said day three,

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but day two, yeah, day
there's any three sections? Right, fill

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up that rail, especially like for
production. We should push for it too,

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because we want the rail to look
full. We don't want any blank

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areas, so we want to put
people up. When I first got here

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today, there was a gentleman that
walked up, an older gentleman. Um

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didn't have a wristband as well.
Also, but he wasn't wearing a shirt.

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Um, but I don't know.
Did Stephen Jones have shirts? I

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don't think Stephen Jones had shirts?
Did Adam Waltman definitely had shirts. He

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had the A and W logo on
him. What is aw Well, it's

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like root beer, it's a restaurant, it's all this different stuff. Um,

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but so he had those. They
were red shirts with those. Um,

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the Wineman ones had the emotions of
a wine glass and a man.

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Terrible wineman. Yeah, I mean
kind of terrible. So un had the

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idea that we need a stockpile infantry. Yeah, so so listen, Adam

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Waltman's crew. I thought they did
all right, like their chance got better

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over time. Their chances were good
today, so that they clearly did some

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preparation, some work and getting the
chance better. But they had like blown

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up cardboard of like emojis. They
had a blender um, they had a

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fire emoji like stuff like this.
Like when they had the fire emoji,

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they were like, he's heating up, you know, because Adam Walton was

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playing a lot of pots, winning
a lot of pots in a row,

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so they like he's heating up,
He's on fire, you know, the

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old NBA jam thing. So I
think we should just as the production team,

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you know, make a bunch of
these like blowing up emojis, give

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them all out to the fans so
they can do their thing, you know,

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all that sort of stuff. I
think it would be a lot of

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fun. It would make for a
more lively atmosphere. I'm also for noisemakers.

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I don't know the exact rules for
the noisemakers, but I'm talking like

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Kyle. But listen, the one
knock on Adam Walton's rail is every time

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he won a pot, he did
the truck horn pull thing with his hand,

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did he have a truck horn.
They needed to have a truck horns.

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They needed to have a truck horn. Somebody bring the truck horn.

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Like like when, like when when
Garrett Listen, when Gary made the final

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table his whole run. Every single
day he put Mike Tyson punch out stuff

407
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:30.160
that. I went to the costume
store, I bought gloves I bought I

408
00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:33.200
showed up like a boxer. I
was ready to go from my man,

409
00:25:33.400 --> 00:25:37.400
that's what you gotta do. Okay. Yeah, And like Wineman's group,

410
00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:40.039
the least they could have done was
actually drink wine. No, there was

411
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:41.319
wine there. Okay, well I
saw most I thought a lot of them

412
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:45.119
had beer, and so it was
probably already finished. It was already gone.

413
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.440
Didn't even make it, make it
to make it to the But the

414
00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:49.519
rails were good. Okay, the
rails were good. Um, I think

415
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.400
some noisemakers would be good. I
think bring back the voboz als. Let's

416
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.079
go. I'm all for it.
You know, we have a pokego vending

417
00:25:56.079 --> 00:26:00.680
machine down there in the ground.
We should just put We need a second

418
00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.440
vending machine, just with noisemakers,
whistles, cowbells, you name it,

419
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:06.759
we'll put it. In there.
But back to my story, there was

420
00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:08.200
an older gentleman that was trying to
get in. He was talking to security

421
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.039
and I heard him because I was
standing right out there, and he was

422
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:12.799
like, you know, I'm friends
with Stephen Jones. I play with him

423
00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.839
a lot of talking stick. I
just want to get in there and get

424
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.839
on his rail. And they were
like, no, you can't. And

425
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.000
I was like, I felt bad
for the guy because like he just wants

426
00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.599
to like trying to get him Ristam. No. I didn't try and get

427
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.920
him Ristman because I had to go
do commentary. But I was like,

428
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:27.319
I felt bad, like you just
let him in. There's not there's only

429
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:30.240
three rails. Let's go get him
in there. Come on, you know

430
00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:33.960
what, no big deal. I
mean, they're they're monitoring that whole area,

431
00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:36.799
so if anyone gets out of line
or anything, you just throw them

432
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:37.480
out of it. Yeah. I
didn't mean it was anything out of line

433
00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.079
either. Well, at one point
they showed on the stream. I don't

434
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:42.720
know what it was about, but
they showed security talking to Sean Deep who

435
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:49.039
knows that Sean from this But yeah, but listen, I think Daniel Wineman

436
00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:53.160
is great champ, a great Champ, a very deserving winner. We're gonna

437
00:26:53.200 --> 00:26:56.519
see a lot from him. Um, you know, I think it'll be

438
00:26:56.559 --> 00:27:00.519
really cool. He made a comment
to Remco ringing my aff to words that

439
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.640
you know, all throughout the winner
process, you know, afterwards, you're

440
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:06.839
doing the photos, you're doing the
interviews, you know, all that sort

441
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:11.559
of stuff. He kept just like
looking up to the rights of the room

442
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.480
from where he was standing at the
final table and seeing all the banners,

443
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:18.000
but the banners ended with Espen Jr. Stads and being like, I can't

444
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.160
believe my banner is going to be
next Espens next year, Like my face

445
00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:23.759
is going to be up there.
That it just has to be absolutely cool.

446
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:27.519
And then to walk in here next
year see your banner up there as

447
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:32.359
the main event champ from the last
year, that has to just be absolutely

448
00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:36.359
epic and you know, probably makes
you a bit emotional when it all happened.

449
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.240
So, as I said, you
know, we heard from Wineman there

450
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.680
with Krascope. As I said earlier, we'll try and get a lengthier pod

451
00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.480
with Dan Wineman in the coming days. Talk with him a little bit more,

452
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.440
talk with him about everything, you
know, kind of let that adrenaline

453
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.160
come down so he can really put
into words, you know, his his

454
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:56.160
run, his thoughts, all that
sort of stuff. So stay tuned for

455
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.160
that. We do need to mention
that with the wind twenty three PGT leaderboard

456
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.759
points, so he's up on top
of the PGT leaderboard. I know he's

457
00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.440
not like poker these days, but
I'm guessing we'll see a little bit of

458
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.680
him in some PGT events here and
there. I mean the Mixed Game series

459
00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:15.519
coming up in October, the PLO
series, you know, stuff that he

460
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.480
enjoys. Might see him out there
battling in that stuff. And with him

461
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.319
moving into first, he knocks Chris
Brewer into second, he knocks Isaac Hackson

462
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:30.720
into third. Um, you guys
can check out the PGT leaderboard over at

463
00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:36.640
PGT dot com slash leaderboard, and
then all your PGT information over at PGT

464
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:48.920
dot com. All right, big
announcement today happened before play yesterday. We

465
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:53.720
had one announcement. We had Jason
Clark won the main event for thirty years

466
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.440
promotion. Okay, so he gets
that, which actually a lot of people

467
00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.720
seem to be agreeing with him on
taking the two one hundred k. I

468
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.720
think you are all insane doesn't matter. Whatever, WSP Paradise. Yeah,

469
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.480
this is the actual name. That's
the name WSB Bahamas. I was like,

470
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:15.319
no, that's not correct. So
WSP Paradise December, December third.

471
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:19.000
You know, this is Paradise here
too, Like this is technically whatever Paradise.

472
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:25.599
Wherever there's a game, it's Paradise. M December third through fourteenth,

473
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:32.000
twenty twenty three at the Atlantis in
the Bahamas. Fifteen goal bracelet events,

474
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:37.039
fifty million dollars in guarantees. The
main event of this stop is going to

475
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.200
be a five thousand dollars buy in
main event, fifteen million dollars guaranteed.

476
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.640
They're also going to have a fifty
hundred dollars mystery boundy event five million dollars

477
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:49.079
guaranteed. Um. They're gonna have
one hundred thousand dollars high roller with five

478
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.079
million dollars guaranteed. They're gonna have
a fifty K high roller with two million

479
00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.559
dollars guaranteed. UM, they're gonna
have some polo events. They're gonna have

480
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.319
a twenty five k gig millions.
Um. They're gonna have a whole bunch

481
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.359
of stuff. They're partner the WSP
is partnering with the Gig Poker on this,

482
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:10.839
and Gig Poker has pledged to send
one thousand players to WSP Paradise.

483
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.440
And if those dates that I rallied
off December third through fourteenth, ring a

484
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:21.359
bell, that's because this is smack
dab on top of the WPT World Championships.

485
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:25.559
So there's been a lot of talk
about that on social media. It

486
00:30:25.680 --> 00:30:29.160
seems like it's war between these two
companies. I don't know how else to

487
00:30:29.200 --> 00:30:32.440
say it, Like you kind of
stepped down our turf here, Like you

488
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:34.799
know, the WPT put on two
events. They put on the Everyone for

489
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.039
One Drop that ten million dollars guarantee. They put on the one hundred and

490
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.400
eleven K one Drop Alpha eight tournament. So they put those two on during

491
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:48.240
the WSP main event. Now WSP
said, okay, well we're gonna go

492
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:52.920
on top of your event in December, so also on top of APT product.

493
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:55.759
Yeah, also on top of EPT
product, which I think people forget

494
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:57.759
because there was a lot of there
was a lot of talk and listen,

495
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:02.559
rightfully, so WPTD Championship last December, the first one was amazing, right,

496
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:06.160
but at the same time, EPT
PROC set records yeah, so,

497
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:11.079
like you know, it crushed.
So now you have WSP Paradise in partnership

498
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:17.519
with gig Poker, going to Atlantis
in the Bahamas Smack dab on top of

499
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:21.160
all of this. I mean,
it just seems pretty wild to me.

500
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:25.200
Um, I don't really know what
else to say. I don't I don't

501
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.680
know if the poker ecosystem can handle
all of these events, but we're gonna

502
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.400
find out. I can handle it, just not at the same time.

503
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:34.759
But that's what I mean. I'm
saying these three events at the same time.

504
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:40.480
And what I also find out that's
interesting is what is WWPT gonna come

505
00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:45.000
back with? Okay, because wp
came out with this announcement today they listed

506
00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:49.599
their guarantees. Now WPT has come
out with the dates of their series in

507
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.519
December. They've come out with the
dates for the specific big events you know,

508
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.279
WPT Prime, the World Championship Event, et cetera. They even announced

509
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.599
the million dollar One Drop Tournament,
million Dollar Buying One Drop Tournament. I'm

510
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:07.440
the big one for one Drop in
partnership with one Drop. They've announced all

511
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.599
those dates, they haven't announced the
guarantees. Yeah, correct, So is

512
00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:15.880
was is sorry it is WPT.
You know, what was last year's guarantee

513
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.680
was fifteen million. It was a
ten K buying fifteen million, ten thousand,

514
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:24.039
four hundred dollars buying fifteen million guarantee. So if they were planning to

515
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:29.039
run back the fifteen million guarantee,
are they now thinking, you know what,

516
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:32.039
let's fight back, Let's go to
twenty let's go crazy, let's go

517
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:36.160
to twenty five. They got twenty
nine million in change in the in the

518
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.519
prize pool last year, so you
would think that they would be able to

519
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:43.799
push that envelope. Are they going
to I don't really know how this plays

520
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.799
out. I'm guessing as soon as
this announcement came out, you know,

521
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.119
the WPT offices, the phones are
ringing, the text messages were flying like

522
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.440
you know, so I can only
imagine what's going on. I think,

523
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.440
you know, without this news,
the guarantee was going to go up,

524
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:02.880
probably conservatively to twenty million something like
that. We know most of these operators

525
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:08.279
split the guarantee with the TUA.
But now with this news, I think

526
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:13.200
it's a lock to not just go
up to twenty but maybe we see,

527
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:16.079
all right, we hit twenty nine, let's do something like WSPT this year,

528
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:19.400
how it was like, you know, let's break the record. Now,

529
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.480
let's go to thirty. What did
they get over there? They got

530
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.279
sixteen million this for this everyone for
one drop, Yes, like fifteen or

531
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.960
sixteen million in the prize will.
They put a ten million dollars guarantee on

532
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:34.480
it. So we know WIN likes
the swing big. Win has also not

533
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:37.839
just this is more WP. Yeah
I'm getting into that, but you know

534
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:42.200
when in recent years, Win has
really been like, you know what,

535
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:46.640
We're going to be the biggest tournament
venue in Las Vegas and try and be

536
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:52.319
the most important biggest tournament venue year
round in the US. They partner with

537
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.440
WPT. WPT's got WPT global.
Now they're like, you know what,

538
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:59.680
we need to blow up to December
thing. They blew it up. They

539
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.119
made it absolutely crazy. They got
a lot of love for it. It

540
00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:07.480
shattered all expectations, way more so
than anyone even anticipated. Everyone thought that

541
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:08.840
it was going to do well.
It did way better than doing well.

542
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:13.320
It absolutely crushed. We just mentioned
the fifteen million guarantee. You got twenty

543
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:15.719
nine million in the prize pool.
What was the prime event WPT prime had

544
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:20.239
it was I think it was a
two million guarantee and I had like five

545
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:22.199
million, So you know, all
this sort of crazy stuff. So now

546
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:27.960
that ws AP and GG Poker come
out with this paradise thing, I mean,

547
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.840
what are you gonna do? Also, like, what are players going

548
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:32.039
to do? I mean, I
just think now there's a lot of questions

549
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:36.199
and you've seen it on social media
already, you know you've seen. I

550
00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.119
think Jeremy Osma has put out a
poll that said which one are you picking?

551
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:42.079
You know, because it's basically like
for him, it's like, yeah,

552
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.039
these are a lot of guarantees.
They're also bracelets, you know,

553
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:50.400
you can chase all that sort of
stuff that is an ex ship qualifier actually

554
00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:54.920
golden They played a video here right
and on the video opening up the video

555
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:58.480
and talking to a lot of it
was Daniel mcgroni, which would tell me

556
00:34:58.519 --> 00:35:02.199
that Daniel's going. So if Daniel
goes, he's just gonna skip out on

557
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:05.840
Vegas. He doesn't really travel anymore. I know, he doesn't really travel

558
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.599
anymore. He had that deep run
last year in the WPT World Championship.

559
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:12.480
So is he just now going to
go to the Bahamas? You saw Elkie

560
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:14.960
there? Is he gonna go Jason
Kuhne and another ambassador. Is he gonna

561
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.159
go Jason Kuna has had a second
kid like three weeks and make a tough

562
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:20.480
firn. You know, is he
gonna now travel to the Bahamas for this

563
00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:27.159
or is the great place for families? It's a great place for family.

564
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.519
Maybe you bring everyone. You still
got to get there with your family.

565
00:35:29.559 --> 00:35:32.719
I mean, listen as somebody who
has one kid and has another kid that's

566
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.079
coming in a couple of weeks.
I don't want to travel with my family

567
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.840
when they're that young unless I have
to. It's just it's it's not hard,

568
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.400
it's not fun. But like going
back to Jeremy Osmas, you know,

569
00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.840
is he just is he gonna pick
here or is he gonna pick there?

570
00:35:44.159 --> 00:35:45.880
For someone like Jeremy and I feel
like you and me both know him

571
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.760
pretty well. He does have two
kids. It's basically Christmas time. I

572
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:58.440
would guess that he probably sticks to
Vegas at this That would be my my

573
00:35:58.559 --> 00:36:01.000
thoughts on him and very you know, and all this is similar to him

574
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:06.400
with kids, family base in Vegas, seeing you back yond fifteen minute drive

575
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.239
and then like you know, people
from people from the Florida region. You

576
00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:13.199
know, we saw a lot of
people from Florida came to Vegas for that

577
00:36:13.280 --> 00:36:16.840
December WPT World Championship last year.
Well, the Bahamas is a forty minute

578
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.360
flight, thirty minute flight, So
like, where are they going? You

579
00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:22.039
know, because for them, it's
much tough for them, it's it's you

580
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.559
know, you still have to play
travel you still have to pay traveling accommodation

581
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:29.519
in both spots. So you know, for the people in Vegas, it's

582
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:31.320
a little bit different because you're at
home. You can just drive to the

583
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:36.320
casino and drive home. But versus
you know, flying to another country,

584
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.039
you know, having to pay for
you know, the accommodations there, and

585
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:43.360
Atlantis isn't cheap, you know,
especially in December when you know they're able

586
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:45.159
to raise the prices a little bit
because the weather is nicer in the Bahamas

587
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.639
than it is in a lot of
spots in the US. So that's a

588
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:51.480
little bit of a different equation.
But for the people that are traveling from

589
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.000
let's say the Northeast, let's say
you know, Florida, stuff like that,

590
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:57.079
where are they going to decide to
go? I mean, it's just

591
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.880
it's very interesting. I think the
I I really have an answer to this,

592
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.800
Maybe you do. I have any
bane to the Bahamas once for for

593
00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:07.599
a poker trip. How easy is
it to get money into the Bahamas and

594
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.199
out versus you know, just flying
a Vegas And I mean it's not you

595
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.960
Chase Bank and Poll. It's not
if you're like one of the higher roller

596
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:15.159
guys and you're wiring the money in
and out, it's not the It hasn't

597
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.800
seemed like it's been the end of
the world. Every single year when when

598
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:22.280
PCA was going on, you always
heard horror stories of people leaving because they

599
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:24.079
carried a whole bunch of cash on
them. They didn't declare it, they

600
00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.800
didn't tell people like all this sort
of stuff. So that's always like been

601
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.800
a thing and been a HASP.
So I more user error since Yeah,

602
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.119
I mean, you just have to
be smart about everything. So I don't

603
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.480
know, I don't know how this
is gonna end up. Um. I

604
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:44.559
think I would best describe my feeling
towards WSP Paradise as popcorn dot if and

605
00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:49.280
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna sit
here and like watch these two fire at

606
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.679
each other, and then what's poker
star is? Gonna do. Like they're

607
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:54.159
kind of like they're like not in
the middle. Like everyone's clearly on social

608
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:59.559
media has been like, oh it's
WSP versus WPT. I think look,

609
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:04.079
if you look at the APT Prague
results and players from last year, it's

610
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:08.679
very very European heavy, and I
don't think those people are We're going to

611
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:12.400
travel anyway, you know why.
It's the same kind of constant you have

612
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.719
something in your backyard. It's a
very big popularist stopping at what I've been

613
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.719
taught a fantastic city in December.
Yeah, so I don't think is awesome

614
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.639
in December. But my question is
if if you're from Europe and you know

615
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:30.519
Gigi Poker is qualifying at least a
thousand players from the rest of the world,

616
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:36.719
right, are you then going to
go to Bahamas because you're chasing the

617
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.599
qualifiers and that's quote unquote soft money. Like so it's just going to be

618
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:44.079
interesting to see what happens from all
this. Well, I'm really I'm interested

619
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:45.880
to see what happens. I'm interested
to see where the players go. I'm

620
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.400
interested to see the guarantees of the
WPT eventually come out with. I mean,

621
00:38:50.440 --> 00:38:52.679
this is like this is huge news
right now in the poker world.

622
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.880
I think a lot depends, you
know, w has to be haven't released

623
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.400
that schedule, and that's going to
matter the most because I'll throw you some

624
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.039
dates right now. Wp T Prime
Championship starts on December seventh, The EPT

625
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:06.519
Produe has a fifty K high roller
on the tenth, then they have a

626
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.519
their five K main starts on the
eleventh. World Championship starts the twelfth.

627
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.960
So depending where WSP puts their main
event, you could, in a way,

628
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.559
maybe if you have a private jet, play all three main events.

629
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:22.239
Yeah, I mean, that would
be definitely at least perfect. You could

630
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:27.920
definitely maybe play WSP and still play
the World Championship, or play the WSP

631
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.440
play Prague. There's ways you can
do it. It just really depends where

632
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:36.840
and how WSP structure their events in
that December block. Yeah, I mean,

633
00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:40.039
it's gonna be very interesting to see
how this one plays out. I'm

634
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:43.920
not really sure, you know,
kind of where I sit right now and

635
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:46.400
at all. I'm just going to
kind of wait and see how it goes,

636
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:52.880
wait and see what these guarantees are
for the WPT event. I mean,

637
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.800
maybe they pull back too maybe they
don't go as big because they see

638
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.239
this as you know, a possible
threat to the player pool. I don't

639
00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:00.480
know. And then I want to
say, you know, if the if

640
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.079
the poker economy or sorry, if
the poker ecosystem, the poker community is

641
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:08.280
able to take these three massive events. We've also heard that, you know,

642
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:12.840
January is going to be wide open
for poker um. I mean,

643
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:15.360
I think we're targeting poker masters.
I think the Borgattes stuff is probably coming

644
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:20.199
back for the bet MGM poker stuff
in the Northeast. But we've heard that

645
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.519
PCA isn't going to be coming back. So that's that's the room and nothink

646
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:27.679
confirmed ry Now, obviously January is
normally out poker a cup window, and

647
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.880
we also there hasn't been allasy millions
in quite some time now, and that's

648
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.679
never kind of its going from.
Yeah, so it's like, would something

649
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:38.000
like this WSP paradise been better suited
for January, you know, if,

650
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.639
especially if PCA's not coming back,
because then you literally just replace them,

651
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.599
just replace it, you know,
which is a stop that everyone always seemed

652
00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:46.599
to want to go to, so
you know, and then you could just

653
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.199
own all of January. You're the
kickoff event for the entire poker calendar all

654
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.480
that sort of stuff. So I
don't know, it's gonna be really fun

655
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:58.199
to see this all play out again
popcorn dot gif watching from Afar. I

656
00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.280
think selfishly for us, um,
we have to stop thinking about, you

657
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.519
know, our PGT Championships right in
the middle of everything. What are we

658
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:09.360
going to do? Should we maybe
move that to early January? Yeah?

659
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:13.360
I don't know, man, I
don't know. We have to take a

660
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.719
long look at it. And you
know, the good thing. The good

661
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:19.719
thing about our stuff, and I
know you'll agree because you're always doing this,

662
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.639
is we have a pretty small player
pool that we draw from, and

663
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.519
we are able to talk to that
player pool immediately because it's only so many

664
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:31.960
players, especially for the PGT Championship
that'll ultimately would be forty players plus some

665
00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.039
like Dreams winners, So you know, we'll be able to be like,

666
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:37.719
oh, hey, Jeremy Osmas,
what do you think, Hey, Daniel

667
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.840
Garni, what do you think,
hey Jason Kohen. You know, like

668
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:43.960
we'll be able to talk to those
players directly and feel that stuff out,

669
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.840
you know, a little bit easier
than trying to like gauge the masses and

670
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.000
make a big guess. So exactly, that's a little bit of a benefit

671
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.159
for us there. But you know, we've already planned this thing for December,

672
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.360
so we'll see a city in January, and thanks for making us move

673
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.400
it. We'll figure it out.
Not to worry, all right. The

674
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:05.280
fifty hundred dollars Closer Event three thousand, five hundred and thirty one entries.

675
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:10.360
Pierre Schum wins it all six hundred
and six thousand dollars four. Pierre,

676
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:15.119
you had the ten thousand dollars.
Nolaman hold him six max five hundred and

677
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:20.800
fifty entries. Alexander reared, winning
it all for one million, fifty seven

678
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.360
thousand and his second World Series of
Poker gold bracelet. The three thousand dollar

679
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:29.800
Horse Tournament is still playing out.
Um. They're up on the horseshoe table

680
00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:32.159
in the middle of the room.
Still five players remained from a field of

681
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:36.159
three hundred and thirty one, two
hundred and eight thousand dollars. Up top,

682
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:38.679
Calvin Anderson looked like he had the
biggest pile of chips I've ever seen.

683
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.039
I mean, it was so big. He's got nine million of the

684
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.920
we'll call it fourteen million, just
crushing. Ryan Miller still out there.

685
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.519
Ryan Million won the ten case stud
eight earlier this world series. Leonard august

686
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:58.880
Is in, Barbara n Right is
the only woman to make the WS Main

687
00:42:58.960 --> 00:43:01.800
Event final tables that nineteen ninety five, and then Andrew Yay is also out

688
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:07.280
there. And these final five players
are guaranteed just under forty five thousand dollars

689
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.000
the one thousand dollars noem and hold
him freeze out. Nine players remain from

690
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.920
a field of one one hundred and
seventy more than two hundred and thirty six

691
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.199
thousand dollars up top for the winner. Kane Callis is leading the way,

692
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:24.480
Eric Msaki is still in, Asher
Khanoff and Vanessa kade Ian Steinman made a

693
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:30.559
very very deep run yes in this
one, finished in what eleventh place,

694
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.920
getting us I think twenty two points
for twenty five K fantasy and that in

695
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:44.440
combination with Sam Silverril running deep in
the ten K short deck, I believe

696
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:51.199
has put Team DPMC, my team
alongside my captain Matt Clark, back on

697
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:57.119
top in the race with Team Lady
Gaga. This thing is coming absolutely right

698
00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.800
down to the wire. It's not
good for my stress levels whatsoever. Still

699
00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:05.440
a couple events left to play out. There are some players in some of

700
00:44:05.480 --> 00:44:07.239
these events that are going on today, So I mean, this is just

701
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:12.599
gonna be a sweat to the absolute
bitter end, just unbelievable. And then

702
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.639
speaking of that ten thousand dollars short
deck, they're down to seven one hundred

703
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:17.320
and six players. One hundred and
six players entered the field two hundred and

704
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:22.360
seventy thousand dollars up top. John
Juwanda is leading, Eric Wasterson still in

705
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:28.880
as is Chris Brewer. Sam Silverl
went out in ninth place, So what

706
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:34.840
does that get us? It's ninth
place is what twenty points plus the field

707
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.440
bonus on once, so twenty No, he went on eighth place, right,

708
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:40.199
who went out in ninth? I
think Martins of Money went out in

709
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.159
ninth. Yeah, Martins of Money
went out in ninth. Sam Siverl went

710
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:45.639
out in eight, So that's thirty
points for us. Field bonus is one,

711
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:49.119
so thirty one, so we got
twenty two from Ian. We also

712
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:52.559
got a point from John Reardon King. John Reardon the third narrowly missed out

713
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:54.920
in the field bonus. Also in
that one k frees out that Ian went

714
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.159
deep in. But hey, you
know, we'll take the point. Let's

715
00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:00.360
go John Reardon, he's over in
the five K battling it out over there.

716
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.559
So we got one point from him, we got twenty two from me

717
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.000
and Steinmon, we got thirty one
from samp AND's overall, let's go.

718
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.800
Now we have to fade everything else. We have to hold on for dear

719
00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:16.400
life. Let's freaking the exact time
when in tomorrow's one k's super turbo when

720
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:21.679
we would love some live reporting just
to see who's out, who's drawing dead,

721
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:24.800
and who's gonna win it. Hopefully
it's us, Yeah, hopefully it

722
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:28.800
is us. I mean, listen, Samasa, I was gonna I was

723
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.719
gonna go to the win tomorrow and
play this casino employees. Now you're not.

724
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.960
Event Now I think I'm just gonna
have to be here biting my nails

725
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.880
the whole time. Feels like you
should do a live twenty five K.

726
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:45.280
It's just it's not gonna be good
for my health to be able to have

727
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.119
to sweat this till the end.
Um. But yeah, I mean,

728
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.440
listen, good luck to our guys
out there rooting for you to do very

729
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:53.480
well. Get us this victory.
Would be a lot of fun to take

730
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.679
this thing down. That is twenty
five k fantasy after all these years that

731
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.440
we've been out there battling in it. Um the five thousand dollars noem and

732
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.920
hold him eight handed is over eight
hundred entries. Just freaking bananas over there.

733
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:07.239
Two day tournament. Um, we'll
finish out tomorrow. I think it's

734
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.960
got thirty minute levels, right,
it might end up still being a three

735
00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:15.199
day tournament, so there's gonna extend
the entire So being by a day,

736
00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.480
they would have to extend the entire
it started today. Tomorrow's the final,

737
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.039
get to like five and we want
to back with three am the like uh,

738
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:25.840
I mean, I don't know,
I don't know. They'll probably finish

739
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.119
it out. I mean I just
want that to be a SAT that'd be

740
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:31.400
awesome. Yeah, you guys can
finish out, but you're gonna have to

741
00:46:31.400 --> 00:46:36.400
go to the whole shoe pucker room
and playing one twenty four with you.

742
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:38.280
That'd be kind of cool. Whatever. So yeah, so that's going on

743
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:44.559
and then tomorrow the final event on
the schedule, one thousand dollar turbo.

744
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:46.840
It's probably more like a super turbo
right because it's it's it's a one day

745
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:52.199
event. Yeah, so, um, the ultimate summer saver. I guess

746
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.880
we'll see. We'll see who's out
here battling in that one trying to save

747
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:00.559
their summer, get some money,
back break even all that good stuff.

748
00:47:00.599 --> 00:47:04.920
Poy, what's going on with that? Well, he and his still ahead.

749
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:07.880
But okay, we've got Cris Brewer
in the ten k short day.

750
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.639
If he wins, he takes the
lead. However, his third bracelet.

751
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.480
I mean that feels like that should
be the winner, you know, like

752
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:19.840
the but some online results. We've
obviously got the five K that's playing.

753
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.800
Now, we've got the one K
tomorrow. It's not over legitimately. I

754
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.519
think five people can win. I
mean that's just Chris and and everyone.

755
00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.920
I think everyone that wasn't in Daniel
Wyman's rail is in that five k.

756
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.960
Like everyone's yeah, we already message
the end, you know, to talk.

757
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.480
Hey, you know, we don't
want to drink see blah blah blah,

758
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.360
but if you happen to win,
we would like to speak to you,

759
00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:46.039
et cetera. And he's like Ian
motiguous, I'm playing the one K

760
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:50.199
so I can talk on break or
if I bust, I'm like, hopefully

761
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:52.519
you win it and we'll talk to
you after you win. Of course,

762
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.599
it's gonna come down to the wire. Um, you know you're sweating twenty

763
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:59.440
five K fantasy. I'm sweating Poy
because I'm gonna have the interview whoever ends

764
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:04.000
up being the win whenever it's official. Um, So the main event might

765
00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.960
be over, but our work continues
for at least another twenty four ish plus.

766
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.519
Alice absolutely crazy. All right,
well that's gonna do it for us.

767
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:16.239
Um again, we're gonna family pot
No, no, let's say,

768
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.400
Um, I want to get out
of here, that's what I want.

769
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:22.719
Gonna go set the five K with
me. I mean, I'm gonna walk

770
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.159
to the field and see what's going
on and then you know, possibly leave.

771
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.320
Um. But yeah, um,
as I said earlier, we'll get

772
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:35.079
Daniel Heineman on the show for an
extended pod at a later date, so

773
00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.559
stay tuned for that. And my
name is Donny Peters. His name is

774
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:39.639
Tim Duckworth, and we'll talk to
you guys later face

