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into the results from round two of
our first round pick bracket, and some

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people have some pretty strong opinions about
the positions the Bengals need to draft and

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when they need to draft. Then
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and James, we're into the final four

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of the first round pick bracket,
the Elite eight matchups. We started in

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the Sweet sixteen, by the way, but the Elite eight matchups have completed,

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and we know now that it will
be three offensive trench players and Brock

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Bowers in the final four. I'll
start here. I'm totally fine with it.

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I'm totally fine with getting Joe Burrow
help in one way or another.

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I'm never going to debate that.
I'm not with the logic of it.

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And this is what the bracket has
come to, and it's going to be

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either a high end offensive lineman in
the Bengals eyes or at least in Locked

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On Bengals listeners eyes, or Brock
Bauers, who is by far and away,

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by far and away, the top
tight end in this class. And

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I think that's a huge cliff and
that's certainly an argument alone. If you

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want to address tight end, get
the best one who would have been the

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best one in last year's draft,
but you don't have the depth that last

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year's draft had. So that said, I'm not shocked that these are the

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final four. At the same time, I do think that it is a

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little surprising, and part of it
could be seting, like we've talked about

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before we started recording. But no
Byron Murphy, No John Newton, and

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Johnny Newton's the one that I think
is a big surprise because he is I

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think he's a huge, huge favorite
on social media, specifically Bengals Twitter,

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and this poll was conducted on Bengals
Twitter, and so for him to go

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down, it just shows you where
Bengals fans are from an offensive line thirst

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standpoint. The thirst is real and
they're going all in to potentially help the

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Bengals in the trenches. And to
be fair, there were a lot of

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offensive linemen in this bracket from the
start, Ol Graham, Barton, Troy

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Fatanu, JP J Jackson, Powers
Johnson, J. C. Latham,

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Tally Fuaga, Amarius Vans, Tyler
Geiton. There are a lot of first

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rounds because there are a lot of
first round offensive linemen in this draft,

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that's right, Yeah, And for
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the tackles just blew their opposition away, the exception to that being brock Powers

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demolishing Tyler Geiton in a ninety five
to five two fifteen matchup. And like

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you said, maybe the seeding is
a problem here. I'm not a professional

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seater. Most of this is very
arbitrary. The one in two and sixteen

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and fifteen seeds are somewhat deliberately picked. And outside of that, it was

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like, let's make interesting matchups.
Some of them apparently were only interesting to

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me, judging from the way some
of the voting went, like the eighty

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eight twelve Johnny Newton, Terry and
Arnold matchup in the first round that I

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thought would be closer, or as
we discussed previously, the Brian Thomas junior

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upset of Quenya Mitchell fifty seven to
forty three in a pretty surprising decision I

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thought from Bengals Twitter. But that's
well behind us at this point and the

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second round matchups. Let's start with
the top of the bracket here. The

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top of the bracket ended up much
easier, which my bad lesson learned.

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We'll fix this next year. We'll
try to try to spread this out more

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if we can. But the top
is going to be harder. When it's

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picked thirty two, it is going
to be harder. Might have to expand

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the field a bit. Yeah,
it was I waffle between starting with eight,

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twelve and sixteen in the first place
here and like giving some guys or

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even like fourteen, giving two first
round byes and figuring it out from there,

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just because I was trying to figure
out how many players were realistic,

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because you don't want to go too
high and include Joe Wald and have Joe

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Walt just run away with it.
Well, yeah, no, you were

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right. I'm not debating sixteen.
I'm just saying if they're picking thirty two

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next year, yeah, then it'll
probably be a wider net, that's all.

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And maybe it might be two for
number thirty two. Yeah, it's

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just a little bit challenging to figure
out, you know, where to start,

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where to finish, because like,
if you include I don't know,

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who's a Notre Dame Tackle Fisher in
here? A point, what's the point

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of Blake Fisher being on here?
You know? What I mean. No,

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But but he would be in the
round two bracket. Yeah, right,

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And so he would be someone if
they were take picking thirty two.

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We've gone down in this rabbit hole. I'm not just fully commit. If

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they were picking thirty two, he's
probably included, right, just because maybe

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I think I like him more than
Geydon. So there you go. There

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you want to take? Is it
isn't? I think it is. I

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think he'll be better. I think
he'll be better than Guiden. I think

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it's a take. I think Patrick
Palm might be better than Guiton too,

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the guy you hate pp I think
I think also perhaps a take, but

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for sure I take so the top
of the bracket here only for Shanu,

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Brian Thomas Junior, and Troy Fatana, J C. Latham, Mashanhu beating

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Thomas seventy four percent to twenty six
percent, after rounding Fatanu beating Latham sixty

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one percent to thirty nine percent.
Is this in line with your voting,

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James, or did you vote differently
on either of these? No, this

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is in line, and I think
it's close with Latham. And and that's

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that's the one where it's it's really, really close, but it was in

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line. Let me make sure I'm
ninety nine percent sure it was online.

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No, it wasn't. I lied. I voted for Latham, not Troy

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Fatanu. And I think it's the
non testing element of it that that scared

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some people away. I think for
what the Bengals want to do, and

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we know what they want to do, they want to be this big,

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powerful offensive line. I think JC
Latham fits that. Troy Fatanu. Are

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they going to use him at tackle
right away or are they going to plug

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him in at guard and then teach
him tackle next year? I don't know.

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I think that that would be an
interesting dynamic with Latham. I think

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they would just put him at right
tackle and let him cook. I think

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one question about Fatanu as well,
for any NFL team interested in drafting Fatanu,

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is do they believe he can play
tackle? I know he played tackle

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in college. A lot of people
are saying he's going to be best served

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in the NFL at guard. There
are a lot of very smart evaluators who

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think that. I think they're NFL
teams who are asking that question and or

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have asked that question and have made
up their mind this is a guard.

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This is a tackle. This is
a guard with you know, Joe Toney

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kind of flexibility where if we're desperate
for a tackle, we can move them

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to tackle, but that's not your
plan A. And so I think that

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is an interesting element of the Fatanu
Lathan debate. I think Latham is a

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right tackle. I think he has
a size for it. I know he

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didn't test. I think he has
I think he has requisite movement ability forward

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even though he's not a great athlete. Obviously if he was a great athlete,

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he would have tested. But I
think he has adequate athleticism. And

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if you listen to Frank Pollock talk
about these guys, he was talking about

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all of these first round guys with
Dave Lapham, he would tell you that

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jac Latham has better than expected athleticism
for a guy that's that big, not

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not Amarus Mims level athleticism for a
guy that's that big, but certainly better

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than average for a three hundred and
forty pounder with great length and good height

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to go with it. And so
that one is a little bit surprising,

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and that the fans opted for a
guy with guard very high guard potential in

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the profile and some questions as to
whether or not he can play tackle over

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the guy that I think is a
true tackle. But Forshano over Thomas,

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no shock at all there. I
think I'm maybe surprised that Thomas even did

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as well as he did seventy four
to twenty six instead of like a eighty

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five fifteen or something like that.
There's some real Brian Thomas fans out there

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on Bengals Twitter. Yeah, and
it's weird that I'm not like leading the

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charge. Not that I don't like
Brian Thomas, but it's weird that I'm

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not like, hey, wide receiver
at eighteen, but I'm really not wide

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the Elite eight matchups we just discussed
Old Fashanu Troy Fatanu. That one should

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be interesting. Both of those guys
had easier paths than the guys were about

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to talk about. Fatanu beating Verse
in the first round eighty three seventeen and

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Lathaman in the second round sixty one
to thirty nine. Fashanu blowing away Graham

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Barton and then Brian Thomas. So
that's our top top half of the bracket.

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In the bottom of the bracket,
we had Tally Fuaga and Johnny Newton

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and the tightest matchup so far period
a fifty three to forty seven victory for

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Fuaga, who advances to the Final
four. And then a pretty close matchup

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as well between Brock Bauers and Byron
Murphy fifty eight forty two. That's one

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of the closer matchups that we've had, the third closest in fact matchup so

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far. So Bowers beating Geiton,
beating Murphy, Murphy who edged Mims in

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the first round. That was one
of the more controversial according to my replies

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on Twitter, rulings of the first
round or elections of the first round,

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Newton beating Arnold, Fuaga beating Latsu, and then Fuaga beating Newton fifty three

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to forty seven. Are these align
with how you voted, James? I

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assume you voted for brock Bowers here. Yeahly, And I voted for Fuaga

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too. And it's that one's close, right, that one's really close,

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and you almost break the tie with
all right, elite and elite one can

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protect Joe Burrow, and he somehow
fell to eighteen, and you weren't necessarily

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expecting him to because I don't expect
Fuaga to be there at eighteen. Johnny

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Newton, I think he could be
there because the NFL is weird, but

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I think just weird with interior defensive
tackles in general. But there are offensive

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linemen. This isn't just a default
to the offensive line. There are offensive

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Linemen. I would pass on for
Johnny Newton, Troy Fatanu being one of

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them. For example, if those
two guys have been matched up, I

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would have probably taken Johnny Newton.
So this isn't strictly all right, it's

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an offensive tackle take him, but
Fuaga is up there enough to where I

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think it's close. Even if Newton's
a little higher on your board. Let's

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say he's seventh and Fuegas tenth.
All right, well there's a tiebreaker there,

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and I think the tie breaker is
Joe Burrow close. I voted for

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Fuaga and then yeah, I mean, you know me brock Bowers all day

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long over Byron Murphy. By the
way, I voted for Amarus Mims over

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Byron Murphy. And I'm comfortable saying
that, and would certainly take Mims over

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Murphy. And I don't hate Murphy. I just think that it's it's interesting,

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like the discourse around him and the
discussion at least here in Cincinnati,

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where it's like, oh, we'll
solve your defensive line issues, and I'm

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not sure he does that. Like
people have discussed, oh, well,

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Johnny Newton in size and all of
those things. Well, Byron Murphy's smaller,

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and so are we sure he's going
to be this just game changing interior

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defensive lineman, Because if he's not
that, I don't want him at eighteen.

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And I do think there's some depth
there. And so for brock Bowers,

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there isn't depth a tight end in
my opinion in this draft, he's

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far and away not only the best, but one of the best we've seen

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in quite some time. I'll take
him over Byron Murphy because I think you

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can add defensive lineman later in the
draft that will give you maybe not what

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Murphy is going to give you,
but close to it. Yeah, I

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don't think there's the depth in terms
of there's a falloff. I guess,

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like defensive tackle in this class very
top heavy. There are some guys that

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should be good NFL players after Murphy
and Newton. But you know, also

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true for tight end, not a
deep tight end class at all. It's

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a pretty bad tight end class outside
of black Powers and a handful of guys.

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There might be some contributors, but
the consensus is it's a pretty bad

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tight end class. But it's not
a great defensive tackle class. There are

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just more guys later that can help, and that is just a positional value

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thing like do you care about tight
end? And obviously the answer for you

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is yes, right, especially when
it's a guy like Bowers who is a

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run after catch guy, a matchup
problem. He can block a little bit.

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He's not going to be totally mismatched
as a blocker. Does have maybe

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slight size concerns if you're looking for
the elite prototypical does everything tight end like,

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He's not going to come in and
be Rob Gronkowski. We saw them

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beside each other on radio wrote at
the Super Bowl. They're slightly different body

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types to put that nicely, But
doesn't mean he can't come in and be

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an adequate blocker and be a mismatch
problem and use that really good tight end

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athleticism that he possesses and ability and
feel for the game to be a game

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changing weapon in the NFL. The
question with Bowers is the same question that

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plagues every single tight end discussed in
the first round. Is what makes him

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different from the other tight ends in
the first round? What makes him worth

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that pick, Especially when you start
to think about things like surplus value in

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terms of how much are you saving
compared to a top end tight end contract

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when you draft a tight end in
the first round and the potential learning curve

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that tight ends sometimes have coming into
the league. And you know, people

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might talk about Kyle Pitts, who
still I think could be good if he

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was in the right offense and started
his career quite well, or t J.

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Hawkinson or Noah Fant as other first
round tight ends you could reminisce all

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the way back to Tyler Riffert,
who when Tyler Riffert was healthy, was

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a game changing tight end for the
Cincinnati Bengals before he had his career derailed

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by injuries. But those are narratives
I think that have to be combated and

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honestly discussed even in the war room
when you think about taking a tight end

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in the first round. And that
applies to Brock Powers too, sure,

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and I think it should apply to
Byron Murphy too. That's the element here.

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Are we sure he's a game wrecker? I don't think so. I

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think Johnny Newton is potentially, I'm
not sure Byron Murphy is. And so

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could Brock Powers be a game changer? I think that's more likely than Byron

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Murphy. Now, now, the
positional value thing I get it, and

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that's kind of what broke the tie
last year. I think with a Miles

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Murphy versus a Sam Laporte, we
know the Bengals liked maybe not enough to

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take it twenty eight, but damn
it, they liked him. Bowers is

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better. Let's call it like it
is. He's better, he's a better

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prospect, and he's more productive,
and I think he fits what you're going

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to do or try to do.
And so that's where I'm at now.

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With a guy like Murphy, could
he come in and help fill a need

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right away, Absolutely, But I
think a lot of people in town,

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whether it's fans people that cover the
team, think that that's like the solution,

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and now your defensive line is fixed. I don't know if that's true

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anyways, and so I'm open to
defensive line certainly at eighteen for the first

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time since nineteen ninety four, if
the Bengals want to go that route in

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round one. I also think that
this is their shot to get a game

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changing type player, and whether that's
someone who's going to block for Burrow and

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keep Burrow up right so he can
make those game changing plays, whether that's

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a weapon like Brock power or whether
that's someone like Johnny Newton that just gets

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after opposing quarterbacks all the time.
I think that's where I'm at. I

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think it's tough again Byron Murphy.
I'm a little lower on him, I

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think than consensus. And yeah,
it's just from a positional value perspective,

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you only get really good, game
changing defensive tackles in the top thirty picks

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or so. It's really hard to
find them outside of the first round.

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Not true for tight end. And
you throw all that out. It is

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in this year's class. This year's
class sucks. Oh yeah, no,

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there's a reason everyone's talking about Ben
Sinnett. But but you throw what I

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was going to say to finish the
thought is you throw all that out.

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You look at the individual prospects each
year, it's probably true that you're not

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getting a game wrecking defensive tackle outside
of the first round this year. It's

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definitely true that you're not getting a
game wrecking tight end outside of the first

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round this year. And so then
you have the positional value debate Fuaga Newton

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an interesting one. Waga edging out
Newton. Here a lot of people saying,

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you know, what this should have
been the final. But the way

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the bracket was made, some amateur
put this bracket together, didn't know what

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he was doing, didn't think about
the second round matchups, and so that's

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what we got in the second round. I'm glad it wasn't the final because

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I don't think both guys would have
escaped, not with Brock Powers as a

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two seat baby. Even if those
guys were one seeds on their sides,

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Let's say, ah, we at
Rock would have taken one of them out.

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And we'll see this round obviously with
Flag and bronc. Yeah, we

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can do some hypothetical polls after this
is all said and done, and do

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the Brock Powers Johnny Newton matchup and
do some you know, alternate universe multiverse

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matchups the multiverse of the round one
bracket. Anyway, that's where we are

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for the Final four. We'll be
kicking that off here shortly on Twitter.

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Keep an eye on at Jake.
Let's go on Twitter for that final four

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poll coming up. Next, Let's
talk about why the Bengals might take a

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wide receiver on Day two. Some
people are very upset about this in our

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you know what's funny? James,

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As we transition to talk about wide
receiver here, if you look at Lanzer

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lines top you know, twenty guys, top forty guys or so, you

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would disagree with a lot of the
results of our brackets so far. Jac

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Latham is Lance's top rated tackle,
but Jared Verse has a higher grade than

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any offensive tackle in the class from
Lance. So he would look at that

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first round defeat that Jared Verse could
be like, what the heck are you

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guys doing in Cincinnati? Same for
Layatu Latsu and in fact, one of

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the funnier things I noticed here as
I was looking at this, he has

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laatu Atu Latu ihad aga. Interesting, I had a fuaga. He also

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has Graham Barton graded higher than Olufashanu, so it is interesting. There are

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opinions out there. But anyway,
what we're going to talk about to finish

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out the show today is Bengals targeting
a wide receiver on Day two. There's

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going to be a lot of wide
receivers picked on Day two of this draft.

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I think there is a falloff after
Day two of the draft. There

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are some potential slot options that could
be available in round four and five that

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are guys that I would be happy
for the Bengals to target if that's what

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they were interested in. If they're
looking for a guy that's going to be

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a you know, Tyler Boyd kind
of ninety five percent slot player. Luke

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McCaffrey come on down, and Brendan
Rice could potentially be one in the fourth

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round if he makes there. But
what we've talked about when we talk about

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a second round wide receiver or a
couple of things. One versatility, who

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a guy who can line up outside
inside, gives Jamar Chase ability to play

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outside inside a little bit more freely, t Higgins to move into the slot

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on the rare occasion they do that
sort of thing this year. Also,

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potentially not that this is something we're
expecting at this point at all, gives

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them that license to trade t Higgins
at some point, should that be something

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that is in their plans at all, which we don't think it is,

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but that being the smallest point one. Drafting a guy who can play anywhere

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gives you that future potential wide receiver
two, which is something they need.

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Sure they could go after it next
year. You never know what next year

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is going to bring. And that
has been a common point that I've heard

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jameson two is that versatility and that
impact in twenty twenty four. Allowing Jamar

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Chase to play more freely in the
slot, allowing yourself to be more versatile,

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allowing yourself to do more with motion, and not necessarily have the opposing

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team know exactly where everyone's going to
be on every play base, on your

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personnel, no doubt. And that's
the element here. It's not just about

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the future and replacing Tea. It's
about making this team better now. And

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one way you can make them better
is giving them more options and giving them

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another deep threat, giving them someone
that can line up You're right in the

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slot, line up outside, allow
Jamar Chase to play in the slot more

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and be another wrinkle. And it's
so funny because even last year, but

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certainly this year or the past couple
of years. Last year not as much

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after the top guys, but it
was like, ah, it's so deep

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at receiver, and it is deep
at receiver this year. But if you

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want a guy that can play both
and can be a deep threat, and

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isn't five eight and one point sixty
And I'm just making it, but hits

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all of these metrics that the Bengals
have used and have had success us with.

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Then it gets shallow really quick.
And that's the argument. It's pretty

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simple. I get the trenches are
a huge priority, and they should be,

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but they can't get in the way
from a team building standpoint of realizing

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one the Bengals could use another deep
threat today, even if t Higgins got

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extended today, even if Trent Irwin
was under contract past this year, even

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if we knew andre Josavash and Charlie
Jones were good NFL players, and I

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think they've shown some, specifically Andre
as a receiver, but we still don't

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know what. We don't know what
they're going to be. Trent Norwin's under

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a one year contract, and so
it's Charlie Jones, andre josvash Jamar Chase

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t Higgins in a contract, you're
on the tag. You need some reinforcements.

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So not only do I think that
the Bengals that they'll seriously consider one

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on Day two in as early as
pick forty nine, I think that they

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could very easily double down at receiver
again this year and take one of those

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other slot receivers on Day three,
in round five, in round six,

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because you need to replenish a wide
receiver room that as of now could use

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another deep threat and two a little
more versatility. Plus after this year you

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could be losing t Higgins Trent Irwin
in that wide receiver room gets really really

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shallow if you lose those guys,
you know, you talk about doubling down

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and some of the slot guys on
day three. A name that I'm almost

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certainly going to include in my predictive
mock for the Bengals is Jacob Cowing I

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know I've talked about him a few
times. The Bengals were out there for

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Arizona to work him out. That's
not the only reason. He is a

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very young breakout age player, and
the Bengals you love receivers who had early

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young production in college. He has
one of the highest breakout age percentiles in

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this class, only behind Xavier Worthy
I think, at ninety six percent of

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Worthies ninety seven percentile. So that
is a guy that I think that they

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could be looking at later. But
to your point, James, I think

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this is a team that really values
having three good wide receivers, and we've

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seen that time and time again.
I know that they drafted two guys last

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year, but the guys they drafted
last year were Day three dart throws.

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And the reason I called them that
not to take anything away from them,

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because they showed some things. Both
of them showed some things as rookies that

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suggest they could have NFL futures in
different roles. But they were older and

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they did not hit the breakout age
profile that the Bengals almost always hit.

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They were sore thumb standouts. In
terms of an exception to the rule that

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the Bengals apply to their wide receiver
draft profile, and so even projecting that

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they would continue to develop, it's
a real question because typically, you know,

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with guys that come into the league
older and didn't have that young production,

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you don't often see a ton of
NFL development. Not to say that

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that is impossible, I'm not.
I don't have anything personally against Yoshi or

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Charlie Jones. I think both guys
could be contributors in different ways this year,

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but you don't want to necessarily bank
on that. And if you go

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into twenty twenty five with Jamar Chase
and some guys, which is what could

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end up being the case in a
really good receiver class, and I know

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there are a lot of really good
receiver classes, but the same way we

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talk about this tackle class being really
good, it would make sense to dip

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into the strength of a phenomenal and
varied wide receiver class where many of them

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tick all the boxes you want.
And we know the Bengals love drafting wide

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receiver. We talked about that all
year last year, going into the draft,

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They're definitely going to pick a couple
receivers that year, and it wouldn't

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surprise to see at least one or
even two to your point, James this

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year, Well, because let's just
say that, like I did a mock

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earlier this week for SI and so
I've talked about Troy Franklin. It's not

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on the pod. But if they
take Troy Franklin, does that keep them

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from taking Jacob Cowing, or taking
Luke McCaffrey, or taking insert whatever slot.

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You know, maybe you like Washington
out of USC as one of these

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slat guys, or Washington out of
what Virginia. Ye, I don't think

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so. I think that you're still
open there. And part of it is

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they have ten picks, and part
of it is you could be looking at

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a wide receiver room pretty realistically.
That is in twenty twenty four or twenty

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twenty five, excuse me, Jamar
Chase, the second round pick, the

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insert whatever other round pick, and
then Charlie Jones and andre Yosavash, like

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those could be your five. Taking
andre Josavash last year, that's kind of

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like your Stanley Morgan replacement in a
way. That's who he beat out for

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that roster spot last year. And
Charlie Jones he doesn't necessarily have to be

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your Tyler Boyd replacement, and he
can be a step below that and be

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your Those guys can be a wide
receiver four and wide receiver five long term.

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And so that's what I think is
it's hard for some people to wrap

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their heads around. And that's probably
what should happen. Is Andre be your

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wide receiver four and Charlie Jones be
in the mix in the slot, and

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we'll see if they take a step
forward. But if they don't, you

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have other plans in place. So
why take a wide receiver early? The

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last time they took a wide receiver
early, it panned out pretty well,

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didn't it. They're really they're really
good at drafting receiver. Yeah too,

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Generally they're really good at drafting receiver, and in the class is stacked at

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receiver, I would trust them to
make that pick. That being said,

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a lot of people feel like it
needs to be trenches early, and we'll

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talk about that as well. We'll
discuss the pros and cons there. I'm

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with you, James. I don't
see first round receivers as a likelihood or

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even necessarily a wise move for this
team. And I think it would change

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if they picked Brock Powers. If
you picked Brock Powers, maybe the priority

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on receiver later in the draft also
changes. If you go Brock Powers in

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the first round, maybe your Day
two is dedicated to the trenches. But

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sure, no doubt, Bowers completely
changes how I think they are tack wide

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receiver. I still think they probably
take one, but it might not be

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until Day three, right, and
so what they do in the first round

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does impact things. But if they
go trench in the first round, as

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we kind of expect, I think
Round two, round three are wide open

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for wide receiver. And I think
that's realistic, and that's why we're talking

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about it. It's not just a
James James Rapine skill player fever dream.

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This is a real thing for the
Cincinnati Bengals this year, no doubt.

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Yeah, people think I'm gonna whatever, all right, Well it's a real

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thing this year. That's gonna do
it for this episode of the last real

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thing last year in defense it was
it was and Laporta. That's gonna do

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it for this episode of the Lockdown
Bengals podcast. Until next time, Thanks

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for listening, who day, and
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