WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.439 --> 00:00:08.199 Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and creating over seven companies, 2 00:00:08.400 --> 00:00:12.080 knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that 3 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:16.359 decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself 4 00:00:16.399 --> 00:00:20.280 and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited 5 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:25.280 possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that 6 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.480 only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs 7 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:34.479 deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know, the 8 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.759 stories, the whys, and the hows to navigate the journey to success. 9 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:43.320 Get ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z 10 00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:47.119 to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be 11 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.679 blown away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. Oh my goodness, 12 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:56.000 I am excited, and so are you. You guys are the most 13 00:00:56.119 --> 00:01:00.359 excited audience. I got to tell you, you know, I just get 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.359 in trouble. I get in trouble when the camera goes off because I have 15 00:01:03.399 --> 00:01:07.079 these incredible people that come on that also have podcasts, and I sit here 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.159 in front of them and tell them that you are the best podcast audience ever 17 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.840 and they're like, what what? My people are kind of cool and we're 18 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:18.599 like, they can come on over to this tribe if they like, would 19 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:22.599 you guys share and you shout it out and you let me know who's done 20 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.959 something for you and you follow and you guys are active. Now what could 21 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:30.359 I say about you guys? You guys are like rock stars. Hmmm. 22 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.920 I wonder that that's a lead in. I'm sure you know by now that 23 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.519 that is to look at. If you're like, what the heck? You're 24 00:01:37.560 --> 00:01:41.120 on mission accepted today? So good for you. Good for you because your 25 00:01:41.159 --> 00:01:45.519 other probably on one. If this happened by accident, you're going to be 26 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:49.319 on one. You know. That's at the universe. It's like universe is 27 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.840 telling you a little something. There might be something inside. So maybe this 28 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:57.680 is going to help you make that decision to join the Craig Crag. Okay, 29 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:01.159 So I have Betta be Raka Okay, I was like, I got 30 00:02:01.159 --> 00:02:05.159 to make sure I say that right. Betta be rock on with us today 31 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:09.000 and she absolutely is a rock star. So if you want to expand your 32 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:13.599 rock star ability, you are in the right host today. This woman is 33 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:19.520 an executive film director, producer, writer, and international recording artist. She 34 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.400 has some things that she's going to share today that surprised her in her career, 35 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:27.719 and we want to hear all about what you're doing, what you're currently 36 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.879 working on, how you got there. Thank you so much for coming on 37 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:36.199 to mission accepted today. Thank you for having me. I truly appreciate it, 38 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:39.800 absolutely absolutely so like you guys have been hearing me talk a little bit 39 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:45.199 for a little while, in a little while longer about this incredible two sixty 40 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:53.120 two project where we have thank you, attracted and connected with incredible women to 41 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.560 join the two hundred and sixty two project, which is a global project of 42 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:05.039 solidarity ce and helping us remember about International Women's Day. And this incredible woman 43 00:03:05.120 --> 00:03:08.360 is going to be speaking in December. She's also going to be speaking again 44 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:12.719 when we get into twenty twenty four. And she is also in the book, 45 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:15.159 so you get to see and hear and you know she's got some events 46 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.000 that go on. There's nothing wrong with taking that book and getting her to 47 00:03:19.000 --> 00:03:22.159 sign it live. That's what I would do if I was you. But 48 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:27.039 enough about that, let's talk about you know, you took a mission. 49 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:30.400 How did it come to you? What did did you always know? Like, 50 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:36.439 tell us the beginning of how this started for you? Oh man, 51 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.039 it started in church. It started with music. Music has always been a 52 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:45.800 part of my life. And I got the book very quickly when I saw 53 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.840 Diana or also on TV when I was a little kid, and I knew 54 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:53.560 then that that's something that I wanted to inspire to do one day. And 55 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:00.599 then I started professionally at age thirteen touring. We started working with us coming 56 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:03.840 back and forth to Atlanta, Georgia. We was working with Bobby Brown's camp. 57 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:08.360 My mom was our manager, and I mean it just really took off. 58 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:13.400 I came from the era of artist development where you know, you had 59 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.720 the dance moves, everything was precise, you know, and everything, and 60 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:23.680 we came out swinging. I mean, you would start off in the different 61 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.160 talent shows and of course, as you're new, you're gonna get you're not 62 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:31.399 gonna win. So what what you do is you go back, you look 63 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.360 at the videos. We was using cassette tapes in those times, and you 64 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:40.600 know, VCRs and stuff, and you would look at the footage of what 65 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:43.480 you was doing and what you need to do and how you could correct it 66 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:46.639 and everything. So at a very early age, I learned about plan, 67 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.279 do and review. You look at what you plan ahead, you review it, 68 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.120 and you do it. You know. So it was, you know, 69 00:04:55.480 --> 00:05:00.279 it's just been it's been an amazing journey of music and now films. 70 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.040 It's just been an amazing journey altogether. So let's talk about that, because 71 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:09.480 you see that you started when you're thirteen, and you know, I have 72 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:13.199 a son who announced me at twelve that he was a sneakerhead and a hype 73 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:15.480 beast. I'm like, what do you know? What are you doing online? 74 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:19.639 And then I soon found out that that is all in the clothing sector, 75 00:05:19.759 --> 00:05:23.199 right, And so at fifteen he sat me down and he's like, 76 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.879 I'm doing this. This is let's so let's start. You had a mom 77 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:30.439 at thirteen. You just said that was kind of sounds like acting like you're 78 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:33.040 I call him mammagers, you know, so she was like your mom and 79 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.879 your manager, and so tell us a little bit about that. Was like, 80 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:44.920 because that is unusual maybe for a certain generation, but it's not so 81 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:48.040 unusual now, right, Yeah, yeah, what was that about? What 82 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:53.879 was that like having your mom. You know, that was the best feeling. 83 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:58.040 My mom has been my biggest supporter, and I can really say that 84 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:01.480 I'm blessed because I've had a mom that anything. She's always told me anything 85 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:04.439 that I can conjure up in my mind, if I can see it, 86 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:09.959 then I can do it. And so I always look at if you get 87 00:06:09.959 --> 00:06:13.079 those visions, those are your blueprints, you know, to what you can 88 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.839 achieve. And so she's always been the cheerleader on the side, like, 89 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.399 yep, if you see it in your brain, let's go for it. 90 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:24.000 And so with music, I mean, this lady used to take us up 91 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.199 and down the road. We stayed in Tanfa at the moment, at that 92 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:30.480 time frame, and we woulcome up and down the road every weekend to Atlanta, 93 00:06:30.519 --> 00:06:33.199 Georgia, working with Bobby Brown and working with us. He had just 94 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:38.000 got his record deal, doing all these studio sessions and stuff like that, 95 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:43.680 and I mean we was getting groomed, you know, and we had to 96 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:50.000 do a lot of the behind the scenes stuff of learning choreography, vocal lessons, 97 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:54.759 exercising because you have to keep you stamming up and everything. And my 98 00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.319 mom was right there with us every step of the way incredible, Okay, 99 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:03.480 so we now know how you got started. And so there's always a couple 100 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:05.800 there's a couple of things about the mission, right. I always say, 101 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.560 sometimes we get thrown at it. Sometimes it shows up. Sometimes we say 102 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:14.519 no when it comes back ten years later. Sometimes our you know, our 103 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.879 friends drag us into the mission. There's one thing about going in, right, 104 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.120 and it can be super scary and super exciting and all of that, 105 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:27.160 But staying in the mission, like what some of the stuff that you kind 106 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:29.680 of have come up against. Has there ever been that time where you're like, 107 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.720 man, I don't know, this is this is funky. This is 108 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:39.639 funky, right, Maybe because it's one thing that people people see it sounds 109 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:45.279 good, so you don't mind. Yeah, I don't mind. Honestly, 110 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:50.319 this is one of the hardest industries ever for me. Back in the day, 111 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.480 I had two deals on a table, one with oneer brothers, one 112 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.759 with Sony. I ended up getting into a car accident as I was headed 113 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.199 to my attorney's office and I had to drink from a straw for six months. 114 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:07.759 Stitches in my mouth. They did surgery through my mouth and it took 115 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:09.240 me a year to come back out and when I came back out, the 116 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:13.319 deals were no longer on the table. Warner had revamped, Sony had just 117 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:18.319 signed someone else. And then we went to the third label. And at 118 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:22.240 this time, I'm around eighteen, about to term nineteen. We had just 119 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.680 we went to the third label, and the third label literally told me that 120 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.639 I was too old and I missed the boat, because at that moment they 121 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.200 was signing the Britney Spears, the thirteen to twelve year olds, and so 122 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.720 here I am eighteen, thinking I'm grea to have this longevity career in the 123 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.679 industry, and the door gets shut in my face, and so, you 124 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:46.200 know, you go through depression. And then at that time, I have 125 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:52.279 my friends and people that I've been working with who when we first started all 126 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.200 of our careers, we kind of all like started around the same time, 127 00:08:54.360 --> 00:09:00.000 got deal offers around the same time. But now they are women, when 128 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:05.440 Grammys and doing all this stuff, and not that you have to pull me 129 00:09:05.679 --> 00:09:09.080 up and bring me along with you, but you would hope that they would. 130 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.600 So then you start having you start thinking, well, maybe I'm not 131 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.120 good enough, maybe I did miss the boat, maybe I am too old. 132 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:18.799 Let me go get a job. You know, so you start thinking 133 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.559 all of these things because you're like, man, because this is all I've 134 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.799 ever wanted to do was do music, and now you've just been told Nope, 135 00:09:28.879 --> 00:09:31.679 you're not doing that, and so it was it was really tough for 136 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:37.240 me. It got to a point where one of my my our co manager 137 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.840 was aj Alexander, who's who's also Usher's co manager, and one day he 138 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:45.679 saw me. I went to an event and he saw me and he was 139 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.440 like, you know, you should get your own band, do your own 140 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:54.399 thing, and had I had literally just went into the background. I started 141 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.039 doing backgrounds for TLC, start doing backgrounds for all these different people. But 142 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.960 I was just in the background. And he said, you should really start 143 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.360 doing your own thing, and I was, you know, I thought about 144 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:07.440 it. And then one day I was in the studio and there was a 145 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:11.240 guitar player there, and of course I'm dating myself. He had a cassette 146 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:16.039 tape and he handed it to one of the producers and he said, you 147 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:20.600 know, outside of me being a guitar player, I'm also an artist. 148 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.360 And he was like, I would love you to listen to my music. 149 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:28.519 And when the guy was like okay, cool, and when he left, 150 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.320 they started laughing at him. They was like, man, people need to 151 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:33.600 stay in a lane. And you played the guitar, just played the guitar. 152 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:37.559 And it was then that I said, Okay, I can't stay here, 153 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:39.720 you know what I mean, because if I stay here, that's the 154 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.240 only thing you're going to see me as as just a background singer. And 155 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.399 there's nothing wrong with being a background singer. If you want to just be 156 00:10:46.480 --> 00:10:48.240 a background singer, there's nothing wrong with that. But I didn't want I 157 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:52.519 had more in me, you know that. I wanted to get out. 158 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:58.960 So yeah, it's been a journey for sure. Well look, thanks for 159 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:05.480 sharing that story, because it's that step and no one unless you were in 160 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:11.440 that industry would understand that experience on the inside without hearing it. And I 161 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:18.240 think that many times we come up against strain or stress or experiences that happen 162 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:26.120 or accidents that happen or that delay us. And that one incident, you 163 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:30.080 know, kind of changed, you know, change things, And it's not 164 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.279 about what you do, it's about how you come back from what you do. 165 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:39.039 And and like you said, just like it's a pivot like entrepreneurship, 166 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:43.159 creativity that you know, whatever sector you're in. It is really, it 167 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.320 really is a pivot, even whether you had signed that deal. I mean 168 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.000 there's still pivots to be had and still pivots to be said, but no 169 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:54.320 one would understand that. It's kind of like they understand it in dance. 170 00:11:54.399 --> 00:12:00.440 My daughter was in dance and she had to Ingrade twelve make a decision are 171 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:05.320 you going to go pro Grade twelve seventeen you other go pro And then she 172 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:07.919 decided I'm not going to go pro because she loved background, even though they 173 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:11.200 wanted her on front. She's like, they're like, you're gleaming too much 174 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:15.320 from the back, you're overshadowing. She's like, I like that. I 175 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:18.159 want to do this. And then she was like, but I also want 176 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:20.639 to be a lawyer for the un and they're like, you're not going to 177 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.840 have a chance to come back. You go a lawyer. You're not coming 178 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.480 back, girl, And she's like, I'm seventeen. She's they're like, 179 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.879 you're not coming back. And so she went to be a lawyer and then 180 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:33.279 she decided to change and go into something else, but she wasn't going back. 181 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:39.799 What a What an interesting conversation to have with yourself at seventeen to make 182 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.320 those life decisions. Right. So in dance it's very age, particularly ballet 183 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:48.000 and all those kinds of its age. It's technically aged and music even now. 184 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.799 But now, no, I'm not going to say now because now we 185 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:54.639 don't care. Now We're like, it doesn't matter our age. If I 186 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:58.080 want to come out at fifty years old and do an album, I'm going 187 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:01.080 to do it, you know. So yeah, very cool, very cool. 188 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.480 So you talk about directing, you talk about producing, take us down 189 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:11.679 that road a little bit, Okay. So I ended up leaving corporate in 190 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.720 two thousand and seven to pursue music full time. I have toured the world 191 00:13:15.840 --> 00:13:20.840 working with from Janet Jackson, Acon TLC, Zach Brown Collective, so all 192 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.600 these people, all these different countries. I've been touring, right, And 193 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.320 then another setback happened twenty nineteen. I was getting ready for a show. 194 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:35.399 I was here in Atlanta, but I was getting ready to go overseas to 195 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:41.120 Qatar and Tormniscus, torn Aco dislocated my shoulder. I fell, tried to 196 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:46.840 catch the fall, and hence all of the different things that I just mentioned 197 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:54.559 happened, and I still had to go to I still had to go to 198 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:58.799 Vegas, I had to go to LA for a show. I had to 199 00:13:58.799 --> 00:14:01.120 go to Mexico and chill. By the time I came back from Chile, 200 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.200 it went from being a partial tear, which would have only been a six 201 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:09.759 week recovery time, it ended up being a full tear, which was a 202 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:18.600 year recovery time. So I had to pivot again. Did not expect that. 203 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:20.080 I didn't see this coming. You know, as an artist, you 204 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.840 don't have a backup plan. You can't you can't take time off to and 205 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:26.840 get and get paid for it, you know, because you heard, because 206 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:33.159 you see, you know, there's no there's no plan. And so I 207 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:37.080 got I I ended up having to pivot. But what was crazy about that 208 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:43.279 moment is when I went to LA to perform, that was the time that 209 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:48.000 I performed with Less Brown, Wesley Snipes, Will Ferrell and all these other 210 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:56.639 VIX stars, right and from that incident, me and Less exchange phone numbers. 211 00:14:56.759 --> 00:14:58.440 I was at the breakfast area and I listened to him all the time, 212 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.840 and I I was at this breakfast and it just so happened my show 213 00:15:03.919 --> 00:15:05.639 was going to be that day and I had came in early. I flew 214 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.159 in earlier that Thursday, and my show wasn't until Sunday, so I, 215 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:13.559 you know, you're networking with different people and all the other speakers and and 216 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:18.120 everything, and so all these people start coming up to me, and I 217 00:15:18.159 --> 00:15:20.519 know he was like, well, dang, well who is she? Because 218 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.080 I know he had to because like it was big, big people, like 219 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.840 really big people coming up to me, wanting to take pictures and talking to 220 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.759 me about, you know, the show and everything. So make a long 221 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:37.519 story short. I go over to him. I introduced myself. I tell 222 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.879 him I listen. I really do. I listen to him every morning. 223 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:43.600 And I said, by the way, doctor Barlett told me to tell you 224 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.559 hello. He says, you know doctor Barlett. I said, yes, 225 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:48.840 Sir, I said, she flew me over to Bahamas to perform for the 226 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.120 prime Minister. He said, oh, he said, I don't have her 227 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:58.000 number anymore, send it to me. So then he says, are you 228 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.639 you live here in LA I said, no, Sir, I live in 229 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:03.879 Atlanta. He said, I live in Alpharetta. I said oh. He 230 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:08.200 said, take down my number and get in contact with me. I want 231 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.279 to hear some of your stuff. So I'm like, okay, So take 232 00:16:12.320 --> 00:16:18.879 this information. And as I'm walking to my seat, I really did. 233 00:16:18.879 --> 00:16:21.919 I accidentally called him. I didn't realize I pushed the number. Right. 234 00:16:22.519 --> 00:16:26.480 So now fast forward, I'm in my I'm in my room, getting ready, 235 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.240 trying to call myself, to call my nerves because this is a big 236 00:16:30.360 --> 00:16:33.559 night for me. Right, and he calls me on the phone and I 237 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:37.519 said, oh, I am so sorry. He said, hello, this 238 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:40.000 is Less Brown. I said, oh, I'm so sorry, mister Brown. 239 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:41.440 I said, I called you by accident. He said, well, 240 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.720 you called me by accident, but I'm calling you on purpose. And I 241 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.519 love that I did too. It was really cool. He said, are 242 00:16:48.559 --> 00:16:52.919 you in the Are you in the hotel? I said yes, sirday put 243 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.200 me up in the hotel. He says, well, I'm in the hotel 244 00:16:56.200 --> 00:16:57.120 too. I want you to come to my room. I want you to 245 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:03.320 meet my daughter. I want her to make some dress for you. So 246 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.279 I go meet his daughter, meet his team, and everything. We changed 247 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:11.440 information and his daughter makes me some dresses. I mean, it became a 248 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.720 whole big thing. So now fast forward. I gotta have this surgery. 249 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:18.960 Because I didn't tell anybody there that I was hurt. Because you still you 250 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:22.920 still got to perform, you know what I mean. So usually I would 251 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.519 wear heels, but I had to wear flats. But I wear some really 252 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:30.880 cute you know, flashy and I had on long dresses. And what I 253 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:34.279 would do is I would get to the locations early so nobody could see me 254 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.599 walk. So I didn't do the Red Carpet because I was in so much 255 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:41.799 pain. No, Lie, I was in so much pain. But I 256 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:47.359 did the show and afterwards, we you know, we started contacting each other. 257 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.960 And so now fast forward, it's time for my knee surgery. And 258 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.000 I woke up to them saying, hey, it's going to be a year 259 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.920 for your knee and your recovery time and all this type of stuff. I 260 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:02.000 ended up having to do three times a week physical therapy. It took me 261 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:06.000 three months walking with a walker, two months on a cane. But when 262 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:12.240 I got home from hearing that, I was going to bed and I started 263 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.519 crying. And he called me on the phone and he says, I know 264 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:18.519 that you feel like this is a setback, but this is a setup for 265 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:25.039 something greater. And I was like, I don't know what I'm going to 266 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:30.640 do, because again, music has been everything to me, and so what 267 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:34.720 ended up happening is I wrote a book. My book became an Amazon bestseller 268 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:41.480 in seven hours, started a podcast with a podcast. I started a magazine 269 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.160 company with my boys called The Finant Once Team Magazine. Then we started, 270 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.680 we started each of our podcasts, and I mean, just things, just 271 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:55.400 start rolling. I didn't expect any of this, and then twenty twenty hits, 272 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:57.240 I got released to be able to go back on tour. I was 273 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:03.079 great ahead to Africa and now it's COVID right, So now I'm really sitting 274 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:10.319 there like, okay, But I'm a creative being. I have to create 275 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:14.799 things. And so I always wanted to write a film. I had wrote 276 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.240 a play before. I had six national recording artists in my play and I 277 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.160 but I never did a film, and I started writing. I ended up 278 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.400 writing thirteen episodes. Was going to turn to a web series, but then 279 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.319 I found out how much it was going to cost to do the web series, 280 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.640 and I said, okay, I'm gonna have to do a feature film. 281 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:40.039 And see, so I just started, like I died writing in I'm 282 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:47.640 a very hands on person and I executive produced, wrote direct starting, you 283 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.559 know, put my own music in it. And it was so many ups 284 00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:55.680 and down challenges, you're dealing with, personalities, you're dealing with not knowing 285 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.240 what you're doing. Every day, I'm learning something new, you know. 286 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:03.839 I'm going on YouTube University to learn how to produce and direct and everything. 287 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:11.039 And it was the best. It was the best feeling ever to finally, 288 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:17.480 you know, have the project project out. I just had in April my 289 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.839 release of the film Finding the Perfect Guy. I did a premiere at Studio 290 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:25.880 Movie Girl here in Atlanta. I bought out the biggest night. I bought 291 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:30.359 the biggest room and it was completely star studied. Les Brown came and people 292 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:36.200 from Black Panther, all these big executive BT executives came out. I mean, 293 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.200 people showed me a lot of love. At that time, I did 294 00:20:38.240 --> 00:20:42.119 not have distribution. Again, I'm brand new to filming. I didn't have 295 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:48.200 distribution. But by the time we got different write ups and everything, I 296 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:52.519 ended up getting six distribution offers. And my film has officially been out now 297 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:59.680 for two and a half months, and it is on fifteen platforms including thank 298 00:20:59.759 --> 00:21:03.599 You, including Amazon Prime. It's on to b It's on Reveal, It's 299 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:08.720 on Plex. I'm out in India on a channel called a nookie. I'm 300 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:14.640 in Africa on a channel called African Dysperia Network. I'm on all of these 301 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.400 you know. So yeah, I had to pivot, but I didn't connect 302 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:22.319 it. I didn't expect it at all. And I'm so glad that I 303 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:30.680 was open to the possibilities. You know. Here here, I am just 304 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.519 in my head, I am back at that. You know, set up 305 00:21:34.599 --> 00:21:38.359 not set back. Yep, you know, set up not set back. 306 00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:44.079 I mean that is a big part of this whole taking on the mission, 307 00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.599 right, I mean, it's hard enough to follow what you know you're supposed 308 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.319 to do inside. That's hard enough. That's hard enough. That has its 309 00:21:52.359 --> 00:21:56.759 own dance, right, that has its own dance. Particularly, I think 310 00:21:56.160 --> 00:22:02.119 if it's not not in your wheel, you've never that's not you've never had 311 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:04.599 that impression you want to be you know, you want to be an engineer 312 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:10.759 in a and you're born in a family of I don't know, people that 313 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:12.160 make pottery, do you know what I mean? Like like there can be 314 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.799 like just so many different dynamics things that you don't even have the skills for. 315 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:21.480 That's one thing. But staying on the mission, and we've heard lots 316 00:22:21.519 --> 00:22:23.759 of the word pivot in the last few years of how people have had to 317 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:30.839 pivot and renavigate and reinvent themselves. And it's a tough inner, inner game. 318 00:22:30.960 --> 00:22:34.319 Like I know that you said that you listen to us, What did 319 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:40.519 you do to get yourself through the I don knows and should I and up 320 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.440 against having to learn something new, because that's the interesting thing. When you're 321 00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:48.920 seeing people assume you know everything, right. You know, you're you're in. 322 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:52.599 You're a celebrity, so you know everything about being a celebrity. Sometimes 323 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:56.359 you're like, no, I don't know about that, right, So what 324 00:22:56.400 --> 00:23:02.559 do you do personally inside to keep that fire? To keep that fire burning? 325 00:23:02.599 --> 00:23:04.480 For me, I do a lot of self help books. I listen 326 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:11.920 to a lot of people's stories and listen to the Tony Robbins and Eric Thomas 327 00:23:11.960 --> 00:23:17.519 and I listen to all these different people to stay motivated. You know, 328 00:23:17.599 --> 00:23:22.200 it's the Steve Harvey's story, all these stories. They helped me to pick 329 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.839 up the pieces because sometimes you'll get in your head and think that you're alone 330 00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:29.400 and think that no one else is going through this. We might not be 331 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:33.599 going through the exact same thing, but we all are going through things. 332 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:37.400 We all have struggles. We all have different things, and you're right. 333 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:42.359 What I noticed is, you know, because I've done I've worked with all 334 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.920 these people, and people see me on all these shows and you know, 335 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:52.279 on all these platforms, they think that like like we don't have like we 336 00:23:52.319 --> 00:23:57.599 don't go through things as well, and we do. We do. It's 337 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:02.119 just harder to talk about. It is harder to talk about, right, 338 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:04.960 It is harder to talk about. And I think that's I think that's really 339 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:11.319 important to acknowledge and recognize because sometimes it can be the thing that stops you 340 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:15.519 from reaching out as well. It's like I can't be there there, I 341 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.519 can't be there there and finding that really inner circle you know that place people 342 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:23.119 do masterminding, or they have the private circles of those people that they can 343 00:24:23.160 --> 00:24:27.680 really say oh, by the way, you know no and get their support 344 00:24:27.720 --> 00:24:33.920 from wow, well congratulations, like really congratulations, that's incredible news and that's 345 00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:40.319 incredible success. So I imagine that you and Less are friends. Now, 346 00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:44.319 Yes, what ended up happening, you know, because I had to take 347 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.480 that whole year off and everything. One day he was like, you know, 348 00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:49.480 you should come work for me. I said, I ain't worked for 349 00:24:49.559 --> 00:24:52.920 nobody in a long time. I don't know about that. And I said, 350 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:56.240 but I can help you, and he says, well, I understand 351 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.240 that, and so I will go over there. And for eight months I 352 00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.279 ran. I got him on the stream yard. I used to do all 353 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.039 his videos and editing, and you know, I'm sharp with it. I 354 00:25:07.079 --> 00:25:12.079 have a degree in computer information systems and also a degree in marketing and PR, 355 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:17.519 so you know, I'm fluent with a few things. So you know, 356 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:22.519 we got to work. But I got to see him in the light 357 00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:26.519 of doing so many things, and he started working with me, started working 358 00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.559 with my boys with speaking and different things like that. So it was really 359 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.799 cool. That's very cool. So, I mean, I don't know to 360 00:25:33.799 --> 00:25:38.559 ask this question now whether what you're working on currently is this incredible film that's 361 00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:45.680 getting picked up from stations everywhere, But is that what you're currently working on 362 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.480 right now? Is there something else that you're doing so the film? Oh 363 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:52.119 and I didn't say the name of of my film. My film is called 364 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:56.160 Finding a Perfect Guy. It's a romantic comedy that is out and it is 365 00:25:56.200 --> 00:26:00.240 available everywhere. But what I'm currently working on as it's going through the circuits 366 00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:03.359 now and it's you know, it's like I said, it's just got out. 367 00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:07.880 So we're in the marketing stage of you know, keeping the word out 368 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.880 there a little more and more people can see it. Right. So in 369 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:15.000 the meantime, I've started I have seven other ips. I've started writing on 370 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:22.759 two of them, and I also just started BBR Indie Films because of course 371 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.240 I'm now doing films. So of course I started my own production company. 372 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.119 Sob I get it, Okay, hello up, it's like BBR. I 373 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:36.400 was actually thinking BBR, BBR. BBR was like, of course it's BBR 374 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.279 all right, right. So I have BBR Media Group and within that my 375 00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:45.799 event is called BBR Indie Films. And so we just had our very first 376 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:52.599 screening where I am highlighting other other filmmakers and their films and so, because 377 00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.400 the big the best feeling in the world is to have your film on the 378 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.880 big screen in the movie theater, you know what I mean. So we 379 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:03.599 opened that up to all these different filmmakers. We had one hundred and forty 380 00:27:03.599 --> 00:27:08.799 four submissions. It was insane looking through it, but we just had our 381 00:27:08.920 --> 00:27:14.920 very first event. It was sold out, it was completely star studied. 382 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:19.000 It was so nice and We're great to start promoting and telling people about it. 383 00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:22.880 But the very next one is that's coming up is January tenth. Initially 384 00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.039 I was going to try to do it monthly, but it's a lot of 385 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.079 behind the scenes that you gotta handle, so it's going to be right, 386 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.279 So it's gonna be every other month. And yeah, so the next one 387 00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:37.480 it was January tenth, and people can find out more about it at bbrmediagroup 388 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.640 dot com. Now is that a live event an online event? It is 389 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.720 a live event. You go to the movie theater, we have guest panelists. 390 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:52.279 I'm I'm doing a little bit different because of the different screenings that I 391 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.920 would see. You would just see the films, more films, more films, 392 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:59.480 more films. So what we're doing is we're speaking to or you would 393 00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:03.000 see panels, but it'll be it'll be all the same type of people. 394 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.680 It'll be you know, a room the panelist is all actors or panelists is 395 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.759 all you know. So we did. We had this first one. We 396 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:18.559 had a music supervisor. We had a major, major casting director that was 397 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:23.720 on there. We had a film production company that has over eighty thousand square 398 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:32.599 feet who is actually the third largest black filmmaker production company in Georgia, so 399 00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:36.839 we had him there, and then we had a big actor that was on 400 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:42.599 The Wonder Years, The Wire, BMF and some else it's black lightning, 401 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.640 so we had them to give different perspectives. But I didn't want to just 402 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.200 talk about the stuff that we already know. We're trying to figure out how 403 00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.720 we get cast. You know, I'm asking the real questions that I'm thinking 404 00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.559 about, and I know these people are thinking about too. You know, 405 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.240 it's cute to be like you did this, and you did this, you 406 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.200 did this film. Now how did you get on this film? Who are 407 00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.480 you going through do distribution? Because this is what I need to know. 408 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.200 Yeah, all right, all right. So the if someone is want if 409 00:29:12.200 --> 00:29:17.359 someone has a film and they want that, those are the people that are 410 00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.200 that are want that you're wanting to hear for those of the people that are 411 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:22.279 submitting, they're like, I've got a film, I need to know how 412 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.960 to get it here to here? Okay, So then they contacting BBR and 413 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.079 now we are accepting let me let me make sure I say this, We 414 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:33.359 are accepting short films because we can't sit there and look at twelve films, 415 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.119 you know for an hour. You know, your films are like our feature 416 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:40.759 films are like an hour and thirty minutes. You can't look at all of 417 00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:45.839 those. You get through two films only. So we're accepting the short films 418 00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.279 up to twenty minutes. And they can go to b DR Media Group for 419 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:57.119 more information. Wow what what not not? Hey? You know, I 420 00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:00.920 my knee is up here and I could and walk and you know, decided 421 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:06.160 to write a book and then get back into what a pivot? What big 422 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.279 pivot? You know? What's so cool about it? I'm able to still 423 00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:15.200 put my music in it. So that's what's even more. I really like 424 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:19.240 this little this lane, this new lane because I put in my film. 425 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:23.880 I'm singing in my film literally live, and then I got my music in 426 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.480 the soundtrack. Yeah, you know, that's the book worlds for me. 427 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.960 Oh my gosh. Look, I know we're coming a little we're coming to 428 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:38.400 a rap. We're coming to a rap on the show here. I'm you 429 00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.319 know, breathe that in, you guys, breathe that in. That's a 430 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.839 there is so much in there. I have a question that I'm going to 431 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.160 ask you that for my listeners, they're like, oh, we can't wait 432 00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.519 for her to ask that question. But I'm going to ask you something else 433 00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.839 outside of all this really beautiful things that have happened and really things that you've 434 00:30:56.839 --> 00:31:02.000 had to pivot around and all that side. And like you said, everyone 435 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.119 always assumes that you're you know, you've gotten everything you want, and you 436 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.480 get everything that you want. And I couldn't imagine your treasure boards because they're 437 00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:15.480 probably already all filled up or what have you, business aside, maybe personal 438 00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:21.680 aside, something from the inside. What is something that's still on your dream 439 00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.039 board? What's something that's still on your treasure map, What's something that's still 440 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:32.400 on your chalkboard that you're like, I mean big or small? Put it 441 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:36.559 out for me. Let's put it out there well me. I mean, 442 00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:41.039 like you said, not music related or business related, but I'm going for 443 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:44.519 the Oscars and the Grammys. Now that's where I see it. Okay, 444 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.599 Yeah no, no, it just didn't have to be there, can be 445 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.160 from anywhere. So let's hold that thought. I mean, I think it's 446 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:56.240 super powerful to say it because you don't know who's listening. You just don't 447 00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.079 know who's listening something like oh, she's super happy, dank what she's doing. 448 00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:02.160 But you you want an Oscar on your mantle? Do you want to 449 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.680 Grammy on your man at least? Okay? Okay, see, see we're 450 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.240 digging a little deeper. So we are all envisioning on your mantle, in 451 00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.720 your office, on your desk, your bathroom, cabinet, wherever it is, 452 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.440 with your name on it. We want to see a Grammy with your 453 00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:27.240 name on it, and we want to see an Oscar with your name on 454 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.559 it. Absolutely all right, So anyone knows anyone that knows anyone that knows 455 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:35.440 anyone there it is. Okay, my last question for you, and I'm 456 00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.160 sure my audience is like, are you really going to bring up and ask 457 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:44.279 her? I'm like, yeah, I am. Okay. So now you're 458 00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.000 on your way to a desert island. Okay. You got one suitcase, 459 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:52.759 okay, and you got room for one album. That's it, just one 460 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.759 album. Now you can imagine. I've asked this to every single podcast guest, 461 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:01.119 because you know I'm a music mean music count. You're taking one what 462 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.680 is one album? You? One album, one song, one artist that 463 00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:09.519 you could not imagine not listening to for the rest of your tropical days. 464 00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:15.359 Right now, I'm really feeling Jazzmine Elevant. That's that's who I would take 465 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:21.400 with me because she has a range with her music. So say her name 466 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:27.160 again, Jasmine Sullivan. All right, absolutely who I'm taking? Okay, 467 00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:32.519 well lucky her, Holy yeah, how's someone like you take her? Yeah, 468 00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:37.119 she's she's she's the vocal beast her. You know, she does alphabets 469 00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:42.559 with the way she she's sings so effortlessly. You know, her notes in 470 00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:49.720 and her writing is extreme and she can flip different styles. So she's who 471 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.000 I would take it, all right, My son would love that. So 472 00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:55.480 let's just do the hashtag vocal beast. I mean, there's the hashtag I 473 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:01.599 haven't seen yet before. So yay, what an amazing experience to have with 474 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.079 you today. And look, you guys know what to do, so please 475 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:10.400 just again say where people can go find you. Okay, you can find 476 00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.599 me everywhere at Buttabe Rockets, b U t t A b R O C 477 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:21.639 KA buttab Raka. I am on all platforms under that name. You can 478 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:28.039 also find my film information at BBR Media Group. Perfect there's and of course, 479 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.559 as always it's in the show notes. We thank you so much for 480 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:36.039 being with us. Today and look, audience, we thank you as well 481 00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.719 as you know. You're so important to us. And I just kind of 482 00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:44.239 want to leave it that if anyone out there sees themselves sitting in the studio 483 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.320 with us sharing their story, their pivot, you know where to read. 484 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:52.280 This is not difficult. It's devadevdrummond dot com. You can go to dev 485 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.639 Drummond dot com and you can find all sorts of cool and funky things and 486 00:34:54.760 --> 00:35:00.480 here it is. Go to the event page or just send out a today. 487 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.800 I want to know when this incredible woman is speaking on the two sixty 488 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:10.800 two summit. We have over two hundred women sharing their inspiration, information stories, 489 00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.639 just it's incredible and it is for women and those that support women. 490 00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:22.159 So get on the show. Thank you so much for being with us today. 491 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.159 Thank you guys, and until we see you again when we will be 492 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:30.280 next week, give you well and staying by bye. Thank you so much 493 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:31.280 for having me on a platform. Absolutely