WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.960 Kf I am sixty. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand on 2 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:13.519 the iHeartRadio app. The whole My Way of the Highway. Stuff that seems 3 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:19.079 to be pervading all news nowadays just makes me crazy. Like, for instance, 4 00:00:19.359 --> 00:00:21.920 we got the new minimum waging. Oh I'm Chris Meryl by the way 5 00:00:21.920 --> 00:00:24.839 in from Mo tonight and catch me on Sunday afternoons. Blah blah blah. 6 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:28.640 So that new minimum wage hike for fast food workers, right, which appeal 7 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:33.840 apply excuse me to the large fast food joints. You have to have more 8 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:37.880 than sixty franchises. So this isn't mom and pop places, but Mama pop 9 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.759 places say, well, listen, my employees are gonna leave because they can 10 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:44.600 go make more money a McDonald's. Okay, it's a fair argument. I 11 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:49.600 get that. But I saw another headline this week. I love these those 12 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:55.679 headlines because the headlines are not written for They're not written for clarity. They're 13 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:00.399 written for clicks. Right, It's not about telling the truth. It's about 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:03.479 getting the most eyes on your product. It's about clicks. It's about viewers. 15 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:08.519 It's about honestly listeners, So be careful. Maybe I'm feeding you full 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:11.840 of crap because I just want you to listen longer. Could be hit, 17 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.719 could be true. So I saw this story for the Daily Mail had it, 18 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:19.840 so you know already we're dealing with one of the more credible news sources 19 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:25.560 out there. Fast food chains in California are replacing staff with digital order kiosks 20 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.959 as a way to cut costs after the minimum wage in the state was hiked 21 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:36.799 to twenty dollars an hour. After two years of price raises caused by higher 22 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.359 costs for food, restaurant bosses say they cannot raise them again. Now, 23 00:01:41.400 --> 00:01:45.359 mind you, They say price increases because of higher costs of food. However, 24 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.000 if you take a look back, you find out that over the course 25 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.640 of the last ten years, McDonald's on average, has doubled the prices of 26 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.000 their menu. Inflation over the last ten years has gone up to thirty percent. 27 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.640 They've doubled their prices. Other fast chains have followed suit, where they 28 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:06.640 are far outpacing inflation. It's a little bit like college tuition. Well, 29 00:02:06.680 --> 00:02:09.319 we have to raise our prices because costs are going up. Now you raise 30 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:15.400 your prices because you can. The cost of medical care in America, well, 31 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.080 you know, We've got a lot of money that's sunk into research and 32 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:23.919 development and well medicare costs and well, you know, government reimbursement isn't very 33 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:27.039 high, so we have to make up for that. No, you don't 34 00:02:27.039 --> 00:02:30.439 make up for your profiteering off of it. That's what's happening. You are 35 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:38.080 a modern day pirate. And these narratives that we have just play right into 36 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:40.439 it because it's what people want to hear. So anytime you hear that the 37 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:45.560 minimum wage, somebody's considering a minimum wage, what do you have? Give 38 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:49.400 this the exact same argument. This has been going on since the inception of 39 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.120 minimum wage, and that is minimum wage is just going to drive up the 40 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:57.719 costs. You can't raise minimum wage. If you raise minimum wage, will 41 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:02.680 never be able to afford to live. And yet here we are now, 42 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:07.039 I will say this, the market will probably help out with the minimum wage. 43 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.400 Federal minimum wage is still at what seven and a quarter an hour. 44 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:15.560 States have raised their own minimum wages, but the federal minimum wage hasn't gone 45 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.360 up a whole lot. Some states still abide by that federal minimum wage, 46 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:22.479 and yet they can't seem to find workers. Huh. I recall when we 47 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:27.360 started seeing signs where McDonald's was hiring for twenty one dollars an hour. Twenty 48 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:31.199 one dollars a hour flip Burgers. Yeah, do you know why, because 49 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:36.680 nobody wants to do it. For seventeen dollars an hour. It had been 50 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:38.800 the minimum wage for fast food restaurants like sixteen Bucks, and then they raised 51 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:43.120 it to twenty dollars an hour, and people screamed, no, what are 52 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:46.319 you doing. I can't afford a big mac anymore. And yet when you 53 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:49.919 drive by these stores that say help wanted. And I looked this up on 54 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:53.280 the micjobs website a week or two ago, and there were two hundred jobs 55 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:59.680 available in in the not just the metro, but in the city limits of 56 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:03.560 luss Angels. There are like two hundred McDonald's jobs. And McDonald's has those 57 00:04:03.560 --> 00:04:06.599 signs up front that says, oh, up to make up to twenty two 58 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:15.919 dollars an hour. So we start screaming when they start offering twenty dollars an 59 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:19.120 hour. And now what we have going on is another built in excuse for 60 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:24.720 companies to cut staff. And they say, well, this is all because 61 00:04:25.319 --> 00:04:30.720 of Governor Knewsome. He did this, And they said, well, hire 62 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:34.879 food cost. You know, we had to raise prices. So they highlight 63 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:39.560 this. One dude who runs a Burger King franchise has one hundred and forty 64 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.360 restaurants on the West Coast, and he says he plans to have digital kiosks 65 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:47.759 in all of them in the next two months because until the wage hike, 66 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.480 he planned to roll them out over the next five to ten years. But 67 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:55.319 now the wage hike, he's got to roll them out sooner. Wait a 68 00:04:55.360 --> 00:05:00.439 minute, let's do some maths on that. So you got to go that 69 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:04.800 owns a bunch of fast food restaurants that planned on replacing workers with automation. 70 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:10.800 Anyway, his plans, by the way, as you read further in the 71 00:05:10.839 --> 00:05:16.279 Daily Mail article, which of course blames Newsome and California politicians for destroying transfats 72 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.360 or something, he says, well, looks, I had to do this, 73 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:25.439 had to do it, and I wasn't going to for another five to 74 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.800 ten years, because I mean, my planned had just been to replace people 75 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.879 when I was remodeling my stores. So we had a hold on me. 76 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:41.560 You had enough profits out of that previous minimum wage that you could afford to 77 00:05:41.600 --> 00:05:46.519 remodel your stores and replace all of the workers. But now that the minimum 78 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.519 wage has gone up, you say you have no choice but to do what 79 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.839 you were going to do anyway. Now, granted, the timeline's a little 80 00:05:55.879 --> 00:05:58.680 different. And if you're working at one of those burger kings, if he 81 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.959 fires you so that he can replace you as a cashier with one of his 82 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.279 kiosks, then that sucks. Don't get me wrong, But considering all the 83 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:10.439 different help wanted flyers that are out there and people not wanting to work fast 84 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.560 food, one of the odds that there are a lot of people that are 85 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.399 going to lose their jobs versus just a lot of jobs that they couldn't get 86 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.800 anybody to fill in the first place. And now he says, well, 87 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:23.920 I have to put these kiosks in. But that doesn't fit the narrative. 88 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:29.920 It doesn't fit it at all. Nuance Man, I mean, I would 89 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:33.240 be sympathetic. I'm very sympathetic to the mom and pops that say I'm concerned 90 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:41.759 about losing my pizza chef because my pizza chef I pay eighteen dollars an hour, 91 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.199 and my pizza chef, who is like family to us, is thinking 92 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.519 about going to work for Starbucks because they're going to make twenty dollars an hour. 93 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:54.879 I'm sympathetic to that. I think that's a reasonable concern for not only 94 00:06:54.959 --> 00:06:58.120 the business owners, but for the community at large. He says, I 95 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:01.000 want to give them more money, don't. We're a mom and pop restaurant. 96 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:04.519 Our overhead is high, our margins are low. It's very difficult for 97 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:06.759 us to even make a profit. I get to the end of the month 98 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:10.920 and I'm very concerned that I'm even gonna be able to make payroll. That 99 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:15.439 makes sense to me that that person is frustrated. That's the person for whom 100 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.560 I have a great deal of sympathy. But the guy that owns one hundred 101 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:25.839 and forty Burger Kings in California that was planning on firing or replacing employees anyway, 102 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:28.439 who says, can you believe they raised minimum wage? Now, I 103 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:32.360 gotta put these kiosks in that I was going to do anyway. That's a 104 00:07:32.439 --> 00:07:40.680 reporter looking to build the narrative. That's not an astonishing story that somebody's trying 105 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:45.879 to cut their overhead. That is just a reporter trying to feed the narrative 106 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:50.759 that's already out there. Confirmation bias. We were talking in the last hour 107 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:59.480 about the retail theft, and I was thinking about Walmart says that they're going 108 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:05.319 to replace all the different what do you call the self checkout kiosks or whatever, 109 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:07.040 the self checkout things, and they go, well, we have to 110 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.439 replace a bunch of these because what we found is people really miss that customer 111 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:18.120 service. That's funny because Walmart, you've been saying that you have to close 112 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:22.759 stores because of theft, but now you're saying you're gonna do this remodeling to 113 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.879 replace the millions of dollars you spent to put the self checkouts in because you 114 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.720 want Mabel to be able to talk to Ethel once a week when she comes 115 00:08:30.759 --> 00:08:37.679 in for her double coupons. I just don't believe these narratives as they come 116 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:43.519 in. I don't believe them at all. And so when Walmart says, 117 00:08:43.519 --> 00:08:46.320 well, we're gonna take self checkouts out and go back to traditional lines, 118 00:08:46.559 --> 00:08:50.720 and it's not because they it's not because we're worried about theft. It's it's 119 00:08:50.759 --> 00:08:58.200 about customer service. Walmart, Do I believe you. I actually think you're 120 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.159 seeing some law like if you were to say, hey, people are stealing 121 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.759 crap through ourself checkout lines. I would actually believe you this time, And 122 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:11.279 yet Walmart won't say that's the case. Why because that would be admitting that 123 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.240 putting those things into the first place was a mistake, and they don't want 124 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.919 to admit that. Instead, they want to say, we're doing it for 125 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:24.039 the customary. Oh yeah, unlock the underwear because nobody's stealing that. And 126 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:31.840 for the customary. It's very awkward when I have to go ask Tyler for 127 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:37.399 a key to unlock the fruit of the loom. You need the large. 128 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:41.799 That is the worst because they have to stand there and wait for you to 129 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.840 make your selection, yeah, before they relock it. Listen. I'm a 130 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:50.720 big dude, all right. And one thing I know, Mark, you 131 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.120 ever buy undershirts, I'm an undershirt wearer. I'm a black T shirt Whear. 132 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.159 I think I'm Hank Moody from Californication apparently. Yeah, yeah, I 133 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.519 got one of those on right now. Yeah. People call me Simon Cowle, 134 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.840 the fat Simon Couff, of course, but what do they all do? 135 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.080 They always shrink. Look, I'm normally a two X guy, big 136 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.639 dude. Right when it comes to T shirts, I gotta go to like 137 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:13.159 a four x because they're gonna shrink down to a two X. Uh huh. 138 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:18.320 I can't stand that. So now I got Tyler unlocking the thing, 139 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:20.879 and I'm looking at I go, hey, Tyler, do you have any 140 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.600 four x maybe a four x long? Because I'm kind of tall too. 141 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:30.960 I'll cover my building here. And Tyler's like, I don't know what's not 142 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.639 the Like. I do have a headline here from just two days ago that 143 00:10:33.679 --> 00:10:39.399 says Chipotle says it's seen no impact yet on consumers from California wage increases. 144 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.480 And yet everywhere you turn, if you spend more than five minutes reading more 145 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.039 than headlines, you see corporate profits are way up. I don't know that's 146 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.399 possible. What do you make of that? How could they possibly be up 147 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:56.240 when they have to? I mean, their entire business model has been had 148 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:01.279 because of this minimum wage increase. McDonald's revenue was up. No, that's 149 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:05.320 impossible. Oh, Telsea NBC, they're the ones who reported it. No, 150 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.000 that can't be true. Ah, I don't believe any of it. 151 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:13.399 Don't. It doesn't fit my narrative of fake news. It's just garbage, 152 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:18.120 man, just garbage. I want to talk speaking of digitizing things. How 153 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:24.080 about AI service? Walmart is getting away from the self checks, but are 154 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:30.000 there some jobs that might be safe from AI? Mark and I are both 155 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:35.320 hoping ours are. You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from KFI 156 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.279 AM six forty. Honored to be with you. Thank you so much for 157 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:45.879 letting me play all that other nicety blah blah blah AI. So AI is 158 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:50.720 replacing people. We're hearing that while we have to replace California fast food workers 159 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:56.080 with AI because they raised that minimum range. How much do you think Mark, 160 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.320 we were just talking about the burger king guy that was like, well, 161 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.440 I had to put it all these new so I don't have to pay 162 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:05.720 employees. What should you think those kiosks start? How much do you think 163 00:12:05.720 --> 00:12:09.240 those things cost? I don't know, but I bet they don't need healthcare. 164 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.000 Oh that's a great point. I bet you don't have to pay federal 165 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:18.200 tax There's no there's no FIKA withholdings and employee taxes and all that other stuff 166 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:24.039 too. Right, kiosk probably doesn't need any sick days or or anything like 167 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.559 that. You think they have to hire an IT guy just to maintain those 168 00:12:26.600 --> 00:12:33.360 kiosks? You can't just have an infinite regression of machines fixing fixing other machines. 169 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:37.600 You know what's crazy about those things. I walked into an Ikea and 170 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.759 I had like a head and eating a little low sugar, right, and 171 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:43.399 I hate Ikea. And I was there on a Saturday, you know how 172 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:50.600 it is. And I just wanted one of the cheap hot dogs. They 173 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:54.840 are not great, but they're cheap. And so I checked out and I 174 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.200 wanted a hot dog. And I go to use the kiosk. Listen, 175 00:12:58.279 --> 00:13:03.559 I'm not an underthal. I can use a kiosk. So go to use 176 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:11.000 the kiosk, and like malfunctions, it tries to run my card and it 177 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.480 freezes. Listen, this is what computers do. Blue screen of death kind 178 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.159 of thing. And so I I walked up to the counter and I said 179 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:20.519 to the guy. I go, hey, man, I just want a 180 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.039 hot dog. And he goes, oh, you have to order it the 181 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.840 kiosk, and I go, kiosk is broken. Can I just order a 182 00:13:24.840 --> 00:13:28.200 hot dog and give you my dollar fifty? He's like, uh, we're 183 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:33.240 gonna have to call somebody. Oh no, I said some Michael Douglas falling 184 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:37.600 down situation. It was definitely that situation. It was definitely like that for 185 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.919 those unfamiliar, what a great film? Good pull on that one. I 186 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:45.639 loved that movie. It kind of flew under the radar. I didn't get 187 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:50.559 the kind of like box office acclaim that I think it deserved great film. 188 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:54.000 You relate to it more and more as time past, don't you. Yeah? 189 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.879 Yeah, if you're unfamiliar Michael Douglas has he's stuck in traffic and basically 190 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:03.360 all the nonsense around him makes him crazy and he kind of melts down and 191 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.320 then I think he goes on a killing spree. Yeah. So here's one 192 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.679 thing though, that when it comes to AI, I don't know that you're 193 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:20.120 going to be replaced if you are good at customer service. If right think 194 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:24.360 about this, where do you hate customer service the most? For me, 195 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.000 I can tell you it was calling It was trying to get a hold of 196 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.480 Cox Internet tonight because I was having a total meltowt If you missed the beginning 197 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:35.039 of the show, it was absolute disaster. Everything's gone wrong. My internet 198 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:43.440 connection went to crap. I'm using a backup system. My computer sound card 199 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.759 went to smush as well. It was just everything was just horrible, right, 200 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:50.120 this a bad deal. I don't want to bring it down, but 201 00:14:50.360 --> 00:14:52.360 I said, listen, I'm in a hurry. I'm normally a really nice 202 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:56.639 guy, but I just want to there like hello, thank you for contacting 203 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:58.240 us, and I'm like, look, I'm really in a hurry. My 204 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:03.279 upload speed are not good. They go, We're so sorry of having issues. 205 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.559 Do you give me permission to pull up your account? Oh? Good 206 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:11.960 lord, Okay tell me this. Do you go berserk like I do when 207 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:16.840 they use the word unfortunately? Oh? Yes, right, Unfortunately, we're 208 00:15:16.919 --> 00:15:20.159 unable to help you at this time. We can send a tech out Sunday 209 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.519 morning. It'll cost seventy five dollars, and I know exactly what's gonna happen. 210 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.799 They're not gonna be able to solve anything. And the other thing that 211 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.840 drives me nuts, too is I've had this issue with my internets, but 212 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:35.480 it's sporadic. I can't repeat it. So I've done Listen. I've been 213 00:15:35.519 --> 00:15:37.720 talking with the engineers at iHeart one of the engineers as a friend of mine. 214 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:41.080 We go way back. We used to play softball together. Good dude. 215 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:43.720 He's like, dude, I don't know what's going on, and I 216 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.879 said, well, it was really bad tonight. By Sunday it'll be great, 217 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:48.919 he goes, I'm sure it will. So even if I have a 218 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.399 tech out here, I can't replicate it. I can't show the tech what's 219 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:54.320 wrong. And the text's gonna go, well, go to Georgie's seventy five 220 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.240 dollars. You don't find anything wrong. So what am I gonna do? 221 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:00.679 Makes me crazy? It's like trying to get mister Ed to talk in front 222 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:07.279 of company. Your polls are deep, I mean really they're deep cut. 223 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.320 Come on, everybody knows this stuff. I appreciate the heck out of that. 224 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:12.279 As a kid that grew up on Nick at night, I appreciate that. 225 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:17.600 Come on, Ed, just say something to the nice man. Choose 226 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:21.879 an apple? Yeah, come on, man, just say something. All 227 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:26.080 right. So here's where I think this is a trippy. What the experts 228 00:16:26.080 --> 00:16:32.679 are saying is if you're bad at customer service, AI can replace you, 229 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.399 no problem. I mean, look at how many times these different companies have 230 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:40.600 outsourced. I was subscribed once. Oh, this made me crazy. You 231 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:42.039 ever try to cancel something and they have to tell they have to send you 232 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:47.879 to the retention specialist. The specialists, Oh, they're the worst. That 233 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:52.200 sounds filthy. I was. I was doing some work in Dallas, and 234 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:56.879 so I had subscribed to the Dallas Morning News and that gig dright up right. 235 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:00.200 They hired somebody full time. They said, hey, thanks, you 236 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:02.639 were really great. We appreciate you filling in. I still say, in 237 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:06.000 contact, great situation, all that stuff, but I didn't need the subscription 238 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:07.880 of Dallas Morning News anymore. So I go online to try to cancel. 239 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:11.960 They're like, oh, you have to call us to cancel. Oh crap, 240 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:17.039 I know what this is gonna be. So I call them and they 241 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.880 go, oh, well, we're sorry to hear that she'll be leaving here. 242 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:21.440 And go, yeah, I don't. I don't need it anymore. 243 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:23.559 I'm not I'm not in Dallas, not doing anything with Dallas, and go, 244 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.680 oh, okay, what if we were to offer it to you at 245 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.079 a discounted rate. And I was like, I still don't need it. 246 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:32.440 I don't have any reason to stay up on Dallas Local News. And they 247 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:34.400 went, well, wait, wait a minute, what if we were to 248 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:40.440 offer you a discounted rate and we mailed it to you. You're still not 249 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:42.920 getting this. I don't need it, all right, well, I hear 250 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:45.720 what you're saying. I just need to send you on to my manager before 251 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:52.359 we get this completed. So, yeah, you know what, replace that 252 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:55.920 guy with AI. I'm fine with that. It's not even the dude's fault. 253 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:57.680 That's the entire systems problem, right, this is the whole problem. 254 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:00.640 But if you're good at customers service, you ever have customer service you're really 255 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.119 happy with, and they actually help you, and they stay with you until 256 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:10.000 the problem is solved. Those are saints. They are angels sent from heaven. 257 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:15.039 They are cut from the bottom of Christ's robe, and they are sent 258 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.400 to Earth to help you in that one moment of crisis, and they do 259 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:23.759 that person, according to experts, cannot be replaced. I mean, we're 260 00:18:23.759 --> 00:18:26.759 not gonna pay more than twenty dollars an hour, but they cannot be replaced 261 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:33.599 by AI. The other thing sent from heaven the traditional wife. I don't 262 00:18:33.599 --> 00:18:37.440 know that I'm in for this one. It's a new TikTok trend. You 263 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:44.400 know how I love the TikTok trends. Yep, put on your apron because 264 00:18:44.799 --> 00:18:47.960 your whole life is about to become far more traditional. That's next. Chris 265 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:52.880 Merril, You're listening too later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six 266 00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:59.279 forty TikTok trends. Man, you want to find out just how long we 267 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.480 have? Is this is sid until everything falls apart? You watch TikTok and 268 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.359 then you weigh that against what you actually know. We talked earlier on the 269 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:10.720 show about some of these TikTok trends where they're just they're pushing a narrative, 270 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:15.960 or sometimes the narrative is as a result of the TikTok videos. There'd be 271 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:19.519 a video that shows a bunch of rampant crime and then people say, well, 272 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.960 there you go, retail crime is on the is on the rise because 273 00:19:23.200 --> 00:19:26.920 TikTok says so. It doesn't matter if it actually is or not. We 274 00:19:27.079 --> 00:19:30.640 just say, well, TikTok says so, so it must be. So 275 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:37.039 there's another TikTok trend and I was unfamiliar with this until now. It's called 276 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:41.559 the trad wife. Have you heard of the trad wife? Yeah? I 277 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.680 tried to get that situation going at home, and you want to you want 278 00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:53.039 to guess what the response was a mark Let me let me help you out. 279 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:57.319 There was a verb and a pronoun. We can't say one of them 280 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:02.000 on the air. Yeah, and problem a reference to your affection of your 281 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:07.759 mother, right, I think I've said enough. Yeah, So the traad 282 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:14.480 wife of the SOG, which is the stay at home girlfriend. It's women 283 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:19.640 who are opting out of working instead they're staying at home and they are decidedly 284 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:26.720 subservient to their spouse. I'm guessing that that wouldn't have gone over very well 285 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:32.920 with you, Mark, because radio paycheck probably not going to be enough to 286 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:34.720 be able to support a lifestyle where she gets to stay at home and be 287 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:38.000 an influencer. Well, I wasn't going to bring that up, but yank 288 00:20:38.039 --> 00:20:41.519 you part. Yeah, well, listen, I'm in the same boat. 289 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:47.000 You and I have talked about this many times. If not for our wives, 290 00:20:48.759 --> 00:20:51.960 we would not be We would just not be. You know, you 291 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:56.559 choose the life of a journalist and an artist and it's a calling and blah 292 00:20:56.559 --> 00:21:00.880 blah blah. You start to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to the other person 293 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.160 in the relationship. But sweetheart, I'm really good at this and swear this 294 00:21:04.240 --> 00:21:07.160 is it's a worthy thing. It's very noble. And she's like, I 295 00:21:07.279 --> 00:21:12.119 don't care. Yeah, I realized what it was because my wife and I 296 00:21:12.200 --> 00:21:15.079 used to argue about this, and I'd say, listen, honey, I'm 297 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:18.960 doing okay doing freelance work, and you make good money. The bills are 298 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:23.400 paid, and I want I kind of turned into that stay at home husband 299 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.160 kind of thing, right, And I was like, I'm going to clean 300 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:27.839 the house and I'm going to have dinner ready for you. And why does 301 00:21:27.880 --> 00:21:33.039 this why does this arrangement not work until something opens up? And my wife 302 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:34.519 said, because it's all on me. And I said, but honey, 303 00:21:34.559 --> 00:21:38.839 it's not all on you. Look. I vacuumed, I wash the clothes, 304 00:21:40.119 --> 00:21:42.559 I even washed the sheets this month. I make dinner for you. 305 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:47.440 It's on the table every night when you're done with work. She said, 306 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:49.880 but it's all on me. I said, it's not. I'm doing it. 307 00:21:51.119 --> 00:21:56.359 She said, all the responsibility is on me. If anything happens to 308 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.519 me in my job, we're on the street. Because you make dinner for 309 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.640 me. Is not going to put the groceries in the fridge for you to 310 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:07.119 make the dinner for me. I guess a viewing of mister Mom didn't do 311 00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:11.880 the trick, didn't do it. She was not crazy about that, and 312 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.960 it was a little tough. But now you've got women that are saying, 313 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:18.039 well, you know what, I want to return to what my my grandmother 314 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:21.519 had. Although these people are young, if it's probably their great grandmother's And 315 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:22.839 I said, well, you know, my grandmother used to stay at home. 316 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.519 She would cook, she would clean, she would take care of the 317 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:30.240 house. And it doesn't help that we keep getting every year. There's another 318 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:37.880 report on the what is it the it's not the value of stay at home 319 00:22:37.880 --> 00:22:45.359 moms. It's something about like if you had to pay for everything the stay 320 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.400 at home mom does, and I says, look, it would be worth 321 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.440 one hundred forty thousand dollars a year. And so you have you have people 322 00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.960 that say, I'm staying at home and that's worth one hundred forty thousand dollars 323 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:03.559 a year. And I've always made the argument, no, it's not because 324 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.519 if you go to work and I go to work, the stuff that happens 325 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:10.160 at home, we still have to take care of that. That's not a 326 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.039 job for you. For people that say, well, listen, I'm a 327 00:23:12.079 --> 00:23:15.960 mom and being a mom is a job. No, being a mom is 328 00:23:17.039 --> 00:23:23.720 a lifestyle. If I'm a father, I don't get paid to go to 329 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:30.039 my kids concert. I don't even get to say, well, hiring someone 330 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.559 to drive the kids to the concert would have been a fifteen dollars uber ride 331 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:37.359 there and back. No, because that's part of being a dad. I 332 00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:47.319 take the kids to their Thanksgiving recital. It just is. So it drives 333 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:49.839 me bonkers when these people are saying, well, this worth so much money, 334 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:55.400 So this trad wife movement. One influencer was quoted as saying, she's 335 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.359 the opposite of a boss babe. First of all, stop using internet lingo. 336 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:07.400 You sound dumb, But it's sort of contrariant, I guess to the 337 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:14.759 feminist movement. So imagine that you are you are someone who is a feminist 338 00:24:15.079 --> 00:24:18.759 at the point, and I listen, I'm more of that traditional feminist where 339 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:21.000 I go, Yes, men and women should be paid the same amount. 340 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:23.240 Men and women should have the same rights. No one should. Their resumes 341 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:27.559 shouldn't be thrown out simply because they have a female sounding name. Yet equality 342 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:32.920 right, that's me. But you also kind of get to that side where 343 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.640 they go, I don't need a man type feminists. Okay, that's fine. 344 00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:40.279 Nobody says you have to have a man. It's never been a thing. 345 00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:41.839 Nobody's insisting that you get married. You can if you want. I 346 00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:45.000 know you feel societal pressure and maybe feel pressure from your parents, but nobodys 347 00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:47.920 say, an, you have to it. I don't need a man in 348 00:24:47.960 --> 00:24:52.039 my life. I don't need it at all. I don't need anything. 349 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.160 I don't need any I can adopt a child and I don't need it, 350 00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:04.160 and good, go do it. That's fine. But there's this almost I 351 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:08.839 don't want to say pride, because you know that's not necessarily it, but 352 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.359 I don't know, there's almost kind of this push to say I don't need 353 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:21.400 someone else, I'm independent, and I applaud that. I think that's awesome, 354 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:26.119 good for you. But then there's this counter to that that says, 355 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.799 well, you know, those feminists, they are making us look bad, 356 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:33.640 and I just want to be a trad wife, a traditional wife, and 357 00:25:33.680 --> 00:25:40.680 they say this, being submissive is part of the lifestyle. Submission isn't degrading, 358 00:25:40.920 --> 00:25:47.200 it's freeing. Yeah, about you. I think this is part of 359 00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.319 the conversation where things went really wrong for Mark when he was asking his girlfriend 360 00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:53.119 about if she wanted to be a traditional or a stay at home girlfriend. 361 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:57.039 Yeah, submission is freeing try that out on someone. He said, sweetheart, 362 00:25:57.079 --> 00:26:00.680 why don't you just submit to my every whim. When I get home, 363 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:06.200 I expect a dinner cooked, My slippers should be warmed, and when 364 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.359 I sit down, I need you to hand me my pipe, my la 365 00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:11.960 times and begin rubbing my shoulders. Ask me only how my day was, 366 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:17.920 Tell me nothing of your day. Be submissive. It's very freeing. I 367 00:26:17.960 --> 00:26:22.160 don't know. Maybe it was something about my delivery. Yeah, it's all 368 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:25.240 on how you say it. Yeah. Yeah, it's all on how you 369 00:26:25.279 --> 00:26:32.960 say it. But is there an element that might actually feel freeing? Well, 370 00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:34.799 look, I mean we've got a certain portion of the population that has 371 00:26:34.839 --> 00:26:40.079 authoritarian complexes too, so there's always going to be that little spot on the 372 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:44.559 bell curve where people are into that. Yeah, it's funny too. You 373 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:49.319 don't run into somebody who's of the liberal persuasion that is going to say this 374 00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.000 sounds like the right solution for women. More women need to be in the 375 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:56.720 kitchen. You don't really run into that. I would even say you run 376 00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.119 into a minority in the conservative side feel bad way too. Of course, 377 00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:04.000 there are certain religions and certain groups that say this is how life should be 378 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:10.279 that's a little bit different. But this trend, the TikTok trend, the 379 00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:17.279 trad wife hashtag. I think there's more to this, and I kind of 380 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:22.039 think it's psychological. Dive into some of that here in a minute, Chris 381 00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.039 Maryland from O Kelly than IKF I AM six quarter We're live everywhere in your 382 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:30.200 iHeartRadio ABB. Mark Ronner is live until his girlfriend. Here's this show you're 383 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:37.160 listening to later with Moe Kelly on demand from KFI AM six forty. We 384 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.039 learned in our last segment if you're just joining us, that Mark Ronner, 385 00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:47.319 with whom you're quite familiar, because you'll catch him every night until his wife 386 00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:52.799 hears this segment. Mark Ronner had a good run here we go. Yeah, 387 00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:56.119 and then he was recommending that his girlfriend be a stay at home girlfriend, 388 00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:04.359 more of a traditional living situation, the nuclear family. She needs to 389 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:11.599 just do what he says. Submission isn't degrading, it's freeing. I don't 390 00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:15.319 know that I agree with that. It's a good thing she doesn't listen. 391 00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.720 Let me see, Oh yeah, is there. I was just checking my 392 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:27.720 notes. Here is there a circumstance where we could say that being a stay 393 00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:33.200 at home wife is in fact freeing. Have we gotten to the point where 394 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:41.559 we have associated work with identity so strongly that anything to the contrary seems so 395 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:49.240 foreign that we just immediately condemn it as being ridiculous. Or is it all 396 00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:56.839 just about if you got the money, do it. I don't condemn anybody 397 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.480 that chooses to be a stay at home spout, especially if you're raising kids. 398 00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.960 If you have a situation, I don't care if it's male or female. 399 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:06.400 I got a couple of buddies that were stay at home husbands. They're 400 00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.279 both divorced now, but you've got a couple of buddies that are stay at 401 00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:14.640 home husbands. And if you have the ability that one spouse can't provide, 402 00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:19.799 and you feel that their job is secure, that's awesome. Don't change anything. 403 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:23.720 You want to be at home raising the kids, that's excellent. Good 404 00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:30.640 for you. My concern, however, is the poor advice from TikTok that 405 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.559 is touting that a trad wife is right for everyone. I do think that 406 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.000 work gives somebody an identity. Let's say you go to a party. Mark 407 00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:45.680 you get invited to parties very often, I avoid them, but I'll just 408 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.279 play along. Go right ahead. Okay, let's say we're at a party. 409 00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:52.920 Mark and I are so much alike it's ridiculous. Yeah. So you're 410 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:57.799 at a party and your girlfriend introduces you to somebody, probably her new lover, 411 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:00.279 but you don't know that yet, and she says, I want you 412 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:08.319 to meet Mark, and you say, hi, Owen. I don't know 413 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:14.440 any Owens. So we're just gonna go with Owen, Hi, Owen. 414 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.480 And what's the first question you asked them? What do you do? Although 415 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.440 with Mark it might be where'd you get those shoes? But for the most 416 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.319 part, you might say what do you do? And Owen would say, 417 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:29.839 I'm in sales, and then you think, oh, it's a geek. 418 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:34.480 I don't want to spend any time with him. Look, work gives us 419 00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:41.559 a sense of identity, It gives us a sense of self value. In 420 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:45.720 fact, my wife and I first, she says it was the first red 421 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:51.359 flag I ever threw up, because when we were dating, she said something 422 00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:56.720 about working and being at home. You know, she had three kids at 423 00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.240 the time, and I was like, no, let me know when they're 424 00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:04.039 out of the house and I'm married her. Anyway, she's cute, but 425 00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.759 I said to listen. I think when it comes to when it comes to 426 00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:14.119 a spouse, I want somebody who who who does something? And she said, 427 00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:15.960 what do you mean. I go, yeah, i'man a job or 428 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:21.599 volunteering or something about. I want somebody that feels like they want to contribute, 429 00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.440 like they want to give back to society. And she says, oh, 430 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.119 you want somebody who's going to go to work. In her mind, 431 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:33.119 she's thinking he wants a sugar mama. In my mind, I'm thinking I 432 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:38.920 want someone independent. I find that very sexy, very sexy. So I 433 00:31:40.079 --> 00:31:45.119 wanted somebody that was independent. And if I have the ability to provide and 434 00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.599 you don't have to go to work and you don't have to go to stupid 435 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:53.000 meetings and be on teams all day, then that's awesome. But I don't 436 00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:59.319 want somebody who's just going to be around the house being subservient to me. 437 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:02.440 This idea of a trad wife, and people are condemning it and saying this 438 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:07.759 is bad at setting women's movements back and all this other stuff. I'm not 439 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:14.759 so concerned about that as I am what does this do? Who did I 440 00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:19.079 marry? I don't want someone who just gives me what I want all the 441 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:25.039 time. I didn't marry a dog. I married someone I look up to, 442 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:32.559 that I relate to. That I call my significant other my partner, 443 00:32:34.119 --> 00:32:40.920 not my servant. I just don't like that idea of I'm just gonna stay 444 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.519 at home and make TikTok videos all day. All right, we'll show me 445 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:51.160 your business plan and how that's gonna make you profitable or raise your profile. 446 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.119 I mean, what's your goal. I want somebody with goals. So sure, 447 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:58.720 I guess I understand somebody saying I don't want a nine to five job. 448 00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.440 Not having to call in every day makes me feel free. And if 449 00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.279 I'm a tread a tread wife, traditional wife, stand home mom, whatever 450 00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.359 you want to say and that, and you indulge in that as your identity, 451 00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:15.480 then that's great, awesome, and it may feel very freeing to say 452 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:17.119 I have the ability to stay at home and I have the ability to raise 453 00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.920 my kids. But this idea that I'm just going to stay at home and 454 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.960 I'm gonna make TikTok videos all day. Imagine if I were to say to 455 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.960 you, oh, let's push for the gaming husband. He just stays at 456 00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.920 home and plays video games all day because it's so freeing. I see no 457 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.319 problem with that. That seems perfectly reasonable, does it? Does it? 458 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:42.240 Yeah? Because I think you would miss Mo. Well that's true too, 459 00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.279 And you know, instead of TikTok, just substitute only fans. And I 460 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:52.519 think you got a thing going here. I think there's there's room to negotiate. 461 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.160 There's good money in mad Mark. What I hear? There's good money? 462 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.960 All right? All right, so I think we're learning a lot about 463 00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.279 Mark tonight. This is great. How come Moe never dives this deep into 464 00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:06.200 your psyche? I think this is wonderful. Well he tries, Yeah, 465 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:12.119 he gets Moe blocked. All right, let's talk about La Stanks. That 466 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.480 is next. Chris merrill INFROMO Kelly to Night KFI AM six forty We are 467 00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.480 live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening so later with Mo Kelly. 468 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:22.880 You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty seven pm to 469 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:30.039 ten pm every Monday through Friday, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.