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It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. What
a great idea on I Heart Radio.

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Welcome to Maria's MutS and Stuff.
And with me is Aliza Eliyazarov. And

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I hope I said your last name
correctly. Eliza did I you did?

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I did? Yay? Okay.
Well, the big thing is you are

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an award winning photographer and you have
a brand new, gorgeous book called The

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Best Dog hilarious to heartwarming portraits of
the Pups. We love that you did

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with your partner. Correct, that's
correct? Okay, So you are you're

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both photographers, is that right?
Yeah? We met New York in photo

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school at the International Center of Photography
in two thousand and eight, and we've

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worked on a few projects together.
Oh that's so cool. And of course

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we have to give him props Edward
Dody, Is that correct, Dody?

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Yeah? It is? Yeah.
Okay, So I don't want Edward to

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feel like we we like them out
so okay, Well this is great.

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So what made you decide to do
this book? I know you have on

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other books, but what made you
decide to put this book together? Well,

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when we were making our first book
on the farm, or my first

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book on the farm. We were
traveling all around the country and photographing heritage

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and rare breet farm animals on location. And of course there's always a farm

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dog or two or four on every
farm, and my stock guardian dogs and

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herding dogs are an important part of
every farm, and even the house dog,

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the farmhouse dog. And so of
course when we were there, every

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farmer always requested, right that we
also take a portrait of their dogs,

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because the dog is a heart,
you know, even if you have a

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farm full of a menagery of animals, right, the dog is the heart

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of every home. Of course.
Yeah, it's perfect, you know.

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I have to give it kudos on
that because I never really heard it.

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I never heard that, but that's
exactly what a dog is. You're absolutely

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right. It's the heart of every
home. Whether it's just you live by

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yourself, you live with a giant
family, uh, you live with kids,

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the dog is always the heart of
the home. I love that.

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Yeah, it's true, It's so
true. And yeah, and then I

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was in New York. I was
living in New York and I was an

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in house photographer for bark Box,
which is a company that made sure dog

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toys and dog treats. Yes,
so was their in house photographer for two

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years, which was a dream job. And you know I spent for over

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two years photographing photographing dogs playing,
playing and eating treats. Yeah so that

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doesn't suit you know, Yeah,
yeah, that's fun. Yes, Yes,

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it was super fun. And you
know they do a lot with helping

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get dogs adopted, so we'd have
team up with foster rapped out of foster

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dogs, a shelter dogs that would
be part of our campaigns, and it

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just made sense. It would just
seems like the natural next step was a

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dog book. It was in the
cards. You know, it had to

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happen, sure, And how long
did it take you to do because I

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mean I saw I guess I don't
know if it's called a preview. I

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saw a little bit of the book
because I know it's not out yet.

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First of all, they're gorgeous photos
and they're just you know, dogs in

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action and just dogs being so cute, so and there's so many So how

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long did it take you to get
all of those photos together? And then

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actually, I'm sure you had to
narrow it down to what you put in

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the book. Well, the making
of a book is just complicated. It's

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such a project. Yes, yeah, it's so long. It's so long.

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So this is my second book.
I feel like I, you know,

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from just from making these books,
I feel like I have a master's

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and how to make a book,
you know. Yeah, no, yeah,

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I'm sure. It's like making a
movie. It really is. It's

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like making a movie. Sure.
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just well, we got when we
got when we decided to do this book,

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we hadn't even adopted our dog yet, and it was deep COVID,

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and we really pitched this book before
we got before we got our dog,

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Ducky. And then we adopted Ducky
and who was a great Parentmese border Collie

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mix eight pounds, and we started
researching it and it was still deep COVID.

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So the project ended up taking so
much longer because of COVID COVID restrictions

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for our last book, and how
we work, as we usually travel to

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different locations and we photographed them people's
homes and we go to people that it

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became apparent after months and months of
trying wait it out, that it wasn't

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going to be possible. And then
we waited even a little longer, and

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then Omicron came up, and then
travel things everything, of course, so

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it ended up being a little more
regional and photographing and studios than going into

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folks homes just for safety reasons.
Sure, so it got a little stretched

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out because of that. But overall, like from pitch to publication day,

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I want to say it's three years, but the majority of the book was

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probably done in a little over a
year. Wow. I mean, that's

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that's a lot, and that's a
little Does that make sense, you know

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what I mean? Because of COVID
has gotten away. I mean, COVID

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gotten I have so many things and
so many professions like yours. But then

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to actually get it to down to
a year, that's that's actually pretty good.

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Know Was it hard to narrow down
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in the book? Oh yeah,
I'm sure right, that was. You

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know the term kill your darling,
it's hard to kill your darling? Yes,

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and yeah it's hard. I love, you know, I love every

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dog I photographed. I thought in
love with every animal I photograph I love.

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Of course, a little bit of
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feel a connection, and that's really
a part of my process as I photograph

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is I always try to take the
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the presence of every animal and really
spend time looking at them and observing them

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and connecting to them and waiting to
see what kind of is illuminated to me.

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And there you meekness of personality,
or the way they they're, the

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way they start, the funny way
that was sick, or wage their tail

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or cock their head or whatever,
or I get to see after spending a

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few after spending a few minutes or
or a few minutes or even an hour

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with an animal, you see you
see their personality. And for me that

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my work is all about forging a
connection between the animal and the observer and

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the viewer of my photograph and the
viewer of my people who view my work.

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So I try to do that first
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forge that connection so I can capture
that on camera. Yeah, and I

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think that's why you are so good
at it, because I think, and

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I won't I'm not going to generalize
and say most photographers, but I think

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many photographers who are taking photos of
animals are just doing it as opposed to

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You're very passionate about it and the
fact that you you bond with the animal

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and that comes across and in the
photos. Thank you, But it's true.

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I mean I just from what I
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you're describing it and I'm like,
yeah, that makes complete sense. You

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know, I appreciate that. Well, it's it's also a unique skill,

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and I think that you're probably too
humble to admit that you have it,

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but as an outsider looking and hearing
what you're saying, I think it's a

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very unique skill. And it's not
just being a photographer. It's you got

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like the soul of the dog coming
to you. Yeah, you know,

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kind of like a person. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much.

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I really appreciate that. Yeah,
that's what I try to do. I

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don't try to just take a cute
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cute. And I think I forged
those skills by photographing farm animals. Actually,

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people who are like you know,
would never consider a pig, you

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know, a pig or a turkey, or just stop to consider the animal.

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I my job was to get the
person to really book at a turkey

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or a pig or an animal that
they would never consider as as as a

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being and and bring out that personality. And so that's was so much harder

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to do with ducks and and in
geese and turkeys and cows and and you

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know, all of the farm animals. So I really I honed my skills

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doing that. Okay, but that
makes sense, that makes sense, yeah,

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of course. And honestly, I
think you know, and it's I

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mean, for me personally, I
don't eat meat. So when I see

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a photo of a cow or a
pig, it's just like a gorge just

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animal to me, you know,
just because you're looking at it so closely,

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obviously different than if you can't see
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it's an animal, but meaning like
if you see a beautiful photo of it

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like yours, and you can see
how beautiful the animal is, like the

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different colors and the you know,
on their skin and the wrinkles or look

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at their eyes, and I think
a lot of people miss that, yeah

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you know, yeah, yeah,
So anyway, I'm sorry, I don't

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mean to go off on that tangent, but but no, I just think

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that your book is just so gorgeous. So let's talk about because I know

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you also are very involved with the
Humane Education Department for the New Hampshire SPCA.

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So you do a lot with rescue
and I know so many like I

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did so many people. I know. We find our dogs, cats,

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we find our pets through you know, what is it called pet Finder Shelter

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Pet Project meaning through photos of pets
of dogs and cats. And as a

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photographer tell me, because I think
it's very very important that even for someone

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who wants to volunteer at a rescue, who's an amateur, but taking a

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good photo is really key to getting
that that pet, that dog or cat

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adopted. Correct, key, yeah, key, yes. I mean we've

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all been on pet Finder and seen
seeing a photo that's in some dark room

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at night and you're like, what
what's his photo? You know, you

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see the photo with blurry it's this
It is horribly lit. You're just like

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this isn't this guy's not going to
get it almost makes you upset seeing the

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photo correct, right, So yeah, so it's everything. I mean,

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first of all, lighting, you
know, lighting, good lighting outside.

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You don't have to be a master
and lighting. You cook great picture on

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a sunny day, Take the dog
outside on a sunny day and get the

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light in their eyes and get a
good photo on a bright sunny day.

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I think that is the easiest thing
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the dog's face, You want a
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want to get light on the animal. Ideally, I would say even after

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a walk or a play session,
their their face is going to be opened

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up because they'll be panting a little
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smiling. Yeah, how big wide
smile. That makes a person connect to

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the dog. Right. So the
other thing is photograph the animal. Photograph

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the dog and a variety of situations
so that the potential adopter can envision their

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future life with that dog. So
maybe the dog is curled up on a

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little blanket and they can picture them
curled up on the picture themselves curled up

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with the dog because the dog is
curled up in a cute little donut on

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a blanket, right, Or the
dog is playing and running, and then

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they can get good You get a
good action shot and people can say,

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oh, I could go running with
I can imagine myself running with this dog

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or hiking with this dog and being
outside with dog. Sure, right,

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you know, you get a dog
doing something a little goofy and maybe that

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they are making a little funny face
and it makes them laugh. You know,

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a good photograph, no matter if
it's of anything anything, a good

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photograph elicits emotion. It makes you
feel something, It makes you laugh,

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it melts your heart, it reminds
you of something. You know, there's

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a connection in an emotion. It
should elict it in emotion, and it

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could be funny and it could be
ideally, it's a few different things to

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show the range of the dog's character. Right, So, this dog loves

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to play. This dog has this
great smile. This dog has these giant,

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goofy paws. This dog has a
specific, a specific little marking in

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the shape of a heart on its
butt, or beautiful long eyelashes. Get

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close on the dog, especially with
a dark dog, well lit, close

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up, get in the fake get
up in that face so you could just

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see that schmushy, beautiful dog right
in its eyes. You know. No,

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that all makes sense, And all
of these tips for someone who's volunteering,

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they could do it with their phone, correct, Like, they don't

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need a big expensive camera. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you could do

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You can do so much on the
phone right now, and it's really it's

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like take it. Don't the worst
thing you can do with just stand there

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with your late knees locked from one
perspective and just look down at the dog

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and snap. You need to get
down with the dog. Shoot from multiple

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angles. Get creative, Lie on
your back, have the dog's rooling over

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your phone and you have your camera
and your face. I mean like,

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if it's a jelly dog that will
look hyspherical, get them sitting lying down,

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you know all that, get variety, multiple angles. Move your body.

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It's not just the dog moving.
You need to move right. You

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need to shoot. You need to
get low. You need to move you

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know, if you're standing in the
wrong place and the lights behind you,

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shift around, so the lights on
the dog. If there's a weird distracting

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something in the background, move your
body so really the viewer is looking at

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the person, not the trash can
behind the dog or whatever. Yeah,

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that makes perfect sense. It makes
perfect sense because it's so key to getting

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you know, the dog the cat
adopted. It's really yeah, it's almost

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you know, it's like it's like
I feel like their photo is their resume

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kind of you know. Yeah,
yeah, and every that's the thing,

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taking the time because every dog,
every animal is different, Every dog has

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a utile bit of unique, unique
personality or unique traits. Spend the time

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to find it, you know.
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locations inside, outside, a variety
of shots, multiple angles and source.

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If your pot shooting with your phone
and you need to get light and you're

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you can't for some reason shoot outside
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you need additional lighting. Have somebody
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on their phone flashlight mode and shine
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their phone onto the dog. And
it's like this, it's an external light

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source. Wow, that's genius.
See, that's why you're so good at

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what you do. That's brilliant.
That's something like, oh I never thought

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of that. Oh yeah, you
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especially even if you're you know,
even if you have a few people,

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two people shine their flashlights. You
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now. That's brilliant. See,
that's why you do and that's why you're

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so good at what you do.
It's true, it's true. So when

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is your book when is it officially
out? Publishing day is October thirty first,

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perfect on Halloween. Okay, yeah, that is so perfect? And

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where can my listeners get it?
Anywhere you buy books? Okay, that's

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good. Everywhere and anywhere from The
book is published by pay by ten speed

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Press, which is an imprint of
Penguin Random House, So you can get

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it on the Penguin Random House site. You could get it on Amazon,

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you can get at your local bookstore. Get it absolutely anywhere, Okay,

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And I know that. And I
don't want to put you off by asking

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you this, but I want to
ask you, so, is is there

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anything next? I like, what's
next? Even though this isn't even out

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yet, so I shouldn't even ask
you that, But meaning, do you

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see another book from photos that didn't
make this one? That didn't make The

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Best Dog? Or you know part
two? Marie? I know it's just

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I know, but Maria, I
could spend the rest of my life talks

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and their stories. Sure are you
know? I would? And I would

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if I could. We'll see Okay, yeah, I will. All right,

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No, that's perfect, that's perfect
because I know I hate to ask

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like what's next when you're like,
seriously, we're talking about this book's not

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even out yet, but no,
because sometimes I know that when photographers because

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they have so much and it's like, well, I'm thinking of making a

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series. I'm thinking, you know, but yeah, and you know,

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it's not like you're ready to stop
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you're so good at it. So
so yeah, I'm sorry to ask that,

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but well, good luck coming up
coming out on Halloween. That's excellent

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the best dog hilarious to heartwarming portraits
of the pups we love, and I

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love it just seeing the preview of
it. I can't wait to see it

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and get it when it comes out. So thank you, Eliza so much

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for sharing your knowledge and your expertise
and your talent and skill with all of

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us, because you really are doing, probably more than you realize that you're

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doing, to get so many dogs
adopted and getting there forever homes. So

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for those of us on the other
side of it, we thank you for

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that. Thank you so much,
Maria, I so appreciate it. It

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was so nice talking to you.
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