WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.000 --> 00:00:06.040 This is High on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports 2 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:11.800 fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app just Surgery High 3 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.560 on the Ball. Hey, welcome back to IM on the Ball, you 4 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:17.960 know, Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, He's Jaginsauce. Snow 5 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:22.160 we have hend me with breaking news. This is High on the Ball Breaking 6 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:28.640 news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. For the first story, former NBA player 7 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:34.079 Jontay Porter that's pleaded guilty to taking himself out of games for betting purposes and 8 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.439 he could face an estimated time of three and a half years in jail. 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:43.280 Whoops, Yeah, might as see he say he killed himself of a career. 10 00:00:43.320 --> 00:00:46.359 And yeah, a lot of the money, it's I guess it's said 11 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.000 in the spread that he had a lot of gambling debt, So gambling was 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.359 all about this. But you know, you're making millions of dollars and how 13 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.799 bad are you? Right? I don't know the ultimate ko d Yeah, 14 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:03.759 god awful? All right. Next story, Former race shortstop Wander Franco has 15 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:07.560 been put on the restricted list a day after convicted of three charges against him 16 00:01:07.599 --> 00:01:11.280 for an alleged sexual relationship with a fourteen year old girl. Of course, 17 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:17.200 this that was just been Dominican Republic. I mean, as a guy had 18 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:23.280 there's another guy who had a bad day again. You know, you get 19 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.120 this opportunity and you blow up by doing something stupid. You hate to see 20 00:01:26.159 --> 00:01:32.560 it, but it happens. For the next story, Kawhi Leonard is withdrawing 21 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:36.400 from the Olympics this summer and will be replaced by Derek White, and the 22 00:01:36.439 --> 00:01:40.640 Clippers concluded that it was best for him if you focus this summer on being 23 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:44.079 ready for the upcoming NBA season, so maybe you could play at least half 24 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:48.879 the game. Are you shocked? Yeah? Yeah, this was not coming 25 00:01:48.879 --> 00:01:52.239 from anybody else but the Clippers, right, we need you don't get hurt. 26 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:57.319 Yeah, I mean, come on, I don't know, I get 27 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.680 it. You know you have health issues and stuff like that, but dang, 28 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:05.760 you gotta when I don't know, as a as a coach or or 29 00:02:05.920 --> 00:02:10.000 a franchise, when you give up on a guy who just can't play, 30 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:15.360 well, you're paying him all this money for half the game. He's making 31 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:20.520 fifty million dollars fifty million rate right the next two three years holy crap. 32 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:23.240 And he may not even play most of the games. He hasn't played much 33 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.080 in the last few years. I mean he's playing. Really, he's playing 34 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:31.680 like half of your games. I don't get it. For the next story, 35 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:37.919 College Football twenty five has released their player overalls for the top one hundred 36 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.360 players. Three Arizona guys were in the top one hundred. T Mac was 37 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:45.639 a ninety four to Carlo Davis was in ninety two, and Jonah Salvinea was 38 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:49.680 in ninety and Fifeeda was not one of the rated one of the top eight 39 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.479 qvs in the t MAC being ninety whatever, ninety four? Holy, who 40 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:59.639 does as twelve year olds? Yeah, he's always got a lot of crap 41 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:02.199 forever. Terrible rating they must because t Max is one of the best college 42 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:07.719 football players in the country easily easily. Well the highest overall they had someone 43 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:12.360 was ninety six. Oh I'm sorry, sorry, So this is a out 44 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.400 of one hundred I had. I was I was going the other way. 45 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:22.960 Okay, So they released the top one hundred players in their ratings back Okay, 46 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:25.879 yeah, okay, I thought I thought one would bet there's your cultural 47 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.759 different those your your age difference, you know, that's fantastic, Yeah, 48 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:34.639 because he deserves that. He's he's he's like I say to the JA all 49 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:37.360 the time and whoever wants to listen that. He to me, he's going 50 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:39.240 to be the best player to ever come through here if he stays healthy. 51 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:44.680 If there was a lot of slack for the feet of who wasn't ranked in 52 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:49.240 the top eight because they had Sanders as the number one quarterback. Yeah, 53 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:54.039 the good luck with that. Get that stuff out of here. The US 54 00:03:54.240 --> 00:04:00.680 men's soccer team has fired head coach Greg Belter after it dis point in Copa 55 00:04:00.680 --> 00:04:04.240 America where the US did not qualify, and then we all saw that coming. 56 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:11.039 Yeah yeah, I mean the minute they lost that game and got eliminated 57 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.400 from the from the tournament, everybody said, that's it, you got it. 58 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:16.560 You got to get rid of him. And so it sounds like they 59 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:20.480 have ben us. USA soccer has been that for a long time. Just 60 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:25.199 yeah, I mean, I get it. We're you know, we're a 61 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:30.639 football and basketball country forever. But you got it. You know, as 62 00:04:30.639 --> 00:04:35.079 you say, with the number of athletes in this day country, you can't 63 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:41.319 you can't have world class you know soccer. You know, what's the deal. 64 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.959 Uh, Angel Rees got her fourteenth straight double double, which is a 65 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:50.040 w NBA record, But she was getting a lot of crap on Twitter because 66 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:54.920 they were up by seven with like twenty seconds ago, and she needed two 67 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.879 more points, so she tried. She got foul trying to score to get 68 00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:01.279 ten points. Yeah, did you see what's your name? Asia Wilson? 69 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:10.000 Yeah, twenty four and twenty twenty four and twenty twenty rebounds Chamberlain stuff. 70 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:15.639 Yeah, Kaitlyn went twenty nine points, you know, losing that for that's 71 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:21.040 all I got it, all right? What else, Steve, I don't 72 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:24.959 know. I don't know. I know that one of our guys wanted you 73 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:29.480 to talk about the Dodgers yesterday. I thought nobody wanted me to talk about 74 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.120 the Dodge. They don't put They got smoked last night. Why talk about 75 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:36.600 your Phillies. The Phillies crushed him. It was ugly. Hey, here's 76 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.319 the thing. Here's the thing that when it was nine to nothing, the 77 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:45.040 starting pitcher was still in the gate. They just said, keep them stay 78 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:46.399 out there. Just we're not gonna use anybody that just stay out there. 79 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:50.959 I was it. Twelve to four was the final. It was twelve to 80 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:56.040 something and I you know, I got home. I take it back even 81 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:59.319 worse. I got in the car. Normally i'll put the game on and 82 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:00.399 listen to it. I didn't even listen to it. I just said, 83 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.519 you know, I don't want to hear this. And I got home with 84 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:04.680 the game was I checked it. I checked to see what inning it was. 85 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:08.199 Was still only the sixth inning. I still didn't turn it on. 86 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:12.439 Yeah, oh, listener Bill, Okay, yeah, I got it. 87 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:15.560 It was Bill send you he just send you something else. Yeah, yeah, 88 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.000 yeah, so yeah, you know, you know they're they're pitching his 89 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:25.720 beat up there, they're they're there. I think they was to somebody because 90 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.639 I was, you're gonna hate, You're gonna laugh at this. But I've 91 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:34.439 been kind of tracking this. The Dodgers have been under favorites moneyline favorites, 92 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:39.439 in like all but three or four games all year long. Now they are 93 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.560 tonight, but they're playing the Phillies. And I don't know that I would 94 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:46.399 even touch that because I haven't been playing well well yeah, I mean the 95 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:48.000 Yankees. Yankees, we've got a bunch of guys hurt. You know, 96 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:55.040 movie Bets is out, you know they today? Oh well, he was 97 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:58.439 the picture yesterday. Oh so, you know, no, they're they're they're 98 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.319 kind of in a bad way. They just got to get to the star 99 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.920 break regather themselves. And oh are they still winning the West though? Oh 100 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:08.279 yeah, they're like seven games up still, And so it sounds like, 101 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:11.800 oh, the Dodgers are terrible. They're still like I don't know six or 102 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:15.959 said last I checked. You know, it's it's so I don't even check 103 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.720 the standings anymore. I just assume that they're they're, you know, they're 104 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:25.879 gonna be up. Let's see, they are. They're up, yes, 105 00:07:25.959 --> 00:07:29.839 still up by seven and a half on the Padres. You know they're they're 106 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:33.360 they're playing six hundred ball five ninety eight. Yeah, that's pretty good. 107 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.759 Yeah, and they're seven and a half the Padres seven and a half games 108 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:40.720 back. The Diamondbacks are and the Giants are ten, and the Rockets are 109 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.720 fifteen and a half twenty three. I mean, excuse me. And so 110 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:46.519 I'm not saying here worried about whether they're not they're going to win the division, 111 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:50.560 but I certainly don't feel good about their the World Series chances, with 112 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:55.720 the lack of pitching that they have and all the other issues that they've got 113 00:07:55.800 --> 00:08:00.600 right now. Anyways, so they're there, Bail, I hope you're happy 114 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:07.199 you brought up that crappy subject. Anything else anybody else? No, I 115 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.800 think you got all the ESPN stuff right. How what was Colorado pick to 116 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.120 finish in the league? Uh? Eleventh? Okay, So I was gonna 117 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:20.120 say, do that have a chance to supersed Arizona or over pass overtake Arizona? 118 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:22.519 No? Probably not right? But they everyone knows this quarterback the sun 119 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:28.839 that you know, the quarterback, and Dion called Travis Hunter the best wide 120 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.879 receiver and the best player in college football. Of course, what was you 121 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:33.200 gonna say, you know, in the best cornerback like he's ever seen. 122 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.000 Yeah, you know, well, you guys are still gonna go four and 123 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:41.039 eight. Yeah, we'll see what happens to him next year. I mean, 124 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:43.559 when you think about it, you know, they're all talking about how 125 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.279 how great Shad or Sanders is. Just because you have that quarterback, sho 126 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.679 should be better than take eleventh place in your conference, right if you got 127 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:54.759 that player, because that's a player that everybody needs to have it. If 128 00:08:54.799 --> 00:08:58.279 you have it and they don't think you can do better than you know, 129 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:01.600 eleventh place Senior League. Then then what do they think? What do they 130 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.320 really think of you? Right, well, we're gonna have a Brian Howell 131 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.759 on Friday talk more about because we always had Brian on last year. Right, 132 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:13.960 what the hell are you going through covering covering h Dean? So we'll 133 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:16.799 have him on Friday to get the update on what's going on in Boulder. 134 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:24.039 You know, look, Dan, he he he cares what people think, 135 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:26.120 but he doesn't care what people think, if you know what I mean. 136 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:30.759 Yeah, he listens, right and he and it says he keeps receipts. 137 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:35.720 But if you think he's a crappy coach, he doesn't care that you think 138 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.360 he's a crappy coach because he's got he's got his right Hall of Famer all 139 00:09:39.399 --> 00:09:43.200 these things. He says, well, you know, screw you, I 140 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:46.159 am who I am, and forget you. But on the other hand, 141 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:48.759 it bothers him. It clearly bothers him when people, you know, rag 142 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:52.720 on him. It's a weird kind of I think he's not to the to 143 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.399 the link of Durant to write Durant kind of pays attention. Then he gets 144 00:09:56.440 --> 00:10:01.559 his burner and then he goes rant, uh, you love because it's true. 145 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.679 Right, Yeah, I don't know why anybody would be like that. 146 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.519 You make tons of money, like tons of money. Yeah, what the 147 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.600 hell will you? I care what you think? Right? You know exactly. 148 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:13.879 There's the calls coming from Tucson. Uh, you know, two dudes 149 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:22.000 on the radio talking crap. Okay, it's a rob number, so yeah, 150 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.679 it's it's fine. You know. He talked about how he's held to 151 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.799 a different standard. He said that it is press. Possibly, yeah, 152 00:10:28.919 --> 00:10:33.879 possibly he's held a higher standard. Who created that? Right? Who created 153 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:37.080 that? You did? Right? You created you know? And then when 154 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.480 you you know, when you went off at the beginning of the last year 155 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.159 and you were talking all this smack, and all of a sudden it got 156 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:45.960 really hard to win games, to the point where you didn't win any more 157 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.960 game. Yeah, let's talk real quick. We have four minutes about the 158 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.200 the d u I thing with gdy Oh. That's right, we can get 159 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.240 him right over. That it is and this is my problem with being a 160 00:10:56.279 --> 00:11:00.440 sports writer and being a sports fan, which of course I'm not. Athletes 161 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.440 at that level get away with stuff. You've seen it, right, I've 162 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:09.000 seen it. I've had to cover it because if the kid could not run 163 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:13.879 a straight line in five seconds or whatever, he would have been in trouble. 164 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.360 Right, And we saw here with a quarterback this past year. There 165 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:20.120 is right to get special treatment. They do, They absolutely do. And 166 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.240 I and I think, you know Gandhi with his remarks about how well I 167 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.840 did it, So what's the big deal? Who hasn't done that when they 168 00:11:26.879 --> 00:11:31.399 you know, okay, well back then it was a different deal, right, 169 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:35.000 and you can't do that anymore, right, And and then you talk 170 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.480 to nil stuff too, right, and yeah, he said, well he's 171 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.639 making money, so he should be able to handle this on his own. 172 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:43.200 Stop it. He got a dui. He could have killed somebody and he 173 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.840 didn't. He got lucky. And now you say, well, kids will 174 00:11:46.879 --> 00:11:50.240 be kids. It's kind of what he said. Right. There should have 175 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.360 been a suspension what there needs to be. And maybe there will be two 176 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.240 games suspension. Maybe there will be the Oklahoma State will come and right the 177 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.080 ship, if they will, the power would be but the damage has already 178 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.399 been done because you know how they feel. Right. And then to say, 179 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.879 well, we're gonna punish him and make him, make him answer to 180 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:13.440 this at Big twelve media days, right, that's a consequence of getting the 181 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.080 d UI right right, No, that's that makes no sense. Well, 182 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.879 the same thing they do DeLaura when he talked about it, and I'm sure 183 00:12:20.919 --> 00:12:24.200 if they rewind if they would have done it, done it differently. Arizona. 184 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:28.919 Yes, yeah, yeah, because it's kind of like you know, 185 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:35.080 they got Sometimes you get so close to it you don't see right, you 186 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:37.720 know the outside. Well, the Texas State team that he went to, 187 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.799 Delora nipped it in the bud right away. You want him, yeah, 188 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.320 well they never should have taken him the first we don't want him, and 189 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:48.039 then he's not our problems that we don't want him. Yeah. Uh And 190 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.080 Arizona, well, guess who needed him? Chet Fitch? You did? 191 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:58.159 You did, and and you know what we got something out of it? 192 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.360 Did no Frafida exactly? You know, And I don't know if there's a 193 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.240 right you know, I make fun but that I shouldn't and I shouldn't. 194 00:13:09.240 --> 00:13:13.039 But yeah, you know, as you said, you know, if he 195 00:13:13.240 --> 00:13:16.639 was you or me, right, you know, you suspend the guys were 196 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.279 you know, you're you know, you might lose your job one of a 197 00:13:20.360 --> 00:13:22.200 number of things that that can happen. Instead, there's like well you know, 198 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:26.720 cans will be kids. He's okay, Well he's answering. He's answering 199 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:31.159 part of the problem too. He's he's younger than Henry. He's twenty, 200 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.960 so he's not even old enough to dream dream. That's another issue. Yeah, 201 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.039 so yeah, no, I again, one of those things were in 202 00:13:39.080 --> 00:13:41.600 hindsight, you think maybe we should have done something a little different with this, 203 00:13:43.679 --> 00:13:45.600 right, and maybe they could still do that and say, you know, 204 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.240 okay, we talked about it a little bit more. Yeah, and 205 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:52.039 you know you're you're out the first two games exactly, and they're gonna what's 206 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.440 the criticism after that? Well, why didn't you say that in the first 207 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:56.399 one? Did you do that the first Well, now we've done it. 208 00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.000 Now we've done it. Regardless of how we did it, we did it 209 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.480 right, you know. Okay, Okay, okay, let's take our break. 210 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.080 We're going to come back. Javier Morales will join us. 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I'm Steve Riverta, he's jacing solids 270 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:19.279 and now we have Harvey Morales from all sportsutsun dot com. How you doing, 271 00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.640 Hubry? Hey guys, how are you doing. How hot is it 272 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.720 over there? One hundred and twenty five? My god, it feels like 273 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:30.799 Phoenix. He you know, if you ever been outside Phoenix from the middle 274 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:34.119 of summer, that's what it feels like. Yeah, don't don't you stay 275 00:18:34.160 --> 00:18:37.640 in the stay in the hotels there. Their conditioned for a reason. They 276 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.839 want you to play their slot machines. So how did you go today? 277 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:47.640 How did you My daughter, I can't do that. She's your she's your 278 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:51.960 your your good girls. You So how was it today? What was the 279 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.519 scene? Like? Uh? You know, they have to set the you 280 00:18:56.559 --> 00:19:00.640 know, Allegion Stadium, which is huge, and it's it's a media days 281 00:19:00.680 --> 00:19:03.799 so that it's like a grand show. And that's what brett Ormark wants with 282 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:08.599 the Big Twelve to kind of show the SEC and the Big Ten that they're 283 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.599 not going to take a back seat to those conferences. To have it like 284 00:19:11.599 --> 00:19:17.000 an a venue like this instead of like in a you know, ballroom of 285 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:18.839 like the MGM Grand or something like that. To have it in the big 286 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:25.160 stadium. Even though the Big Twelve isn't really tied to Legion stadiums in any 287 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:27.599 way. They might be joined with the Las Vegas pul soon, but that's 288 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:33.039 not definite. And of course we know the the Big Twelve Championship is in 289 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.799 Dallas at AT and T Stadium, and you know the basketball tournaments for men 290 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:44.359 and women are in Kansas City for the foreseeable future. So but you know, 291 00:19:45.640 --> 00:19:49.519 listening to your Mark these last couple of days, you just really felt 292 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:53.400 like you've got a guy that, whether you like him or not, where 293 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:57.200 you think he's brashed or not, you've got a guy who's like really committed 294 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:03.279 to, you know, making his conference great in a lot of ways, 295 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:07.079 not just kind of sitting I don't know. It's just a different field, 296 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.279 a different vibe to how he's operating versus you know, the PACTOV commissioners that 297 00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:17.359 you know that the conference died on their watch. Yeah, he's got an 298 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.279 aggressive like this is the way we're going to do it, and we're going 299 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.559 to do it the right way, and we're going to go after it. 300 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.839 I also saw him and he did that with this with me. He comes 301 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.519 up to you people in Shakespeare hand, he doesn't doesn't wait for people to 302 00:20:33.559 --> 00:20:37.240 come up to him and to acknowledge him. There's something about that too, 303 00:20:37.480 --> 00:20:42.480 or he's he gets that he knows that to be able to survive in the 304 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:48.359 competitive world now with these super conferences, that they have to be ultra aggressive 305 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:55.160 and not not hope that things happen and make things happen. Yeah, no 306 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.240 question. You spent most of the time, I'm sure with Brennan and you 307 00:20:59.279 --> 00:21:03.279 had him after right, would you You were there afterward with the scrum with 308 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:04.920 the locals. What did he say in the scrum anything to get you? 309 00:21:07.960 --> 00:21:11.200 Yeah, Well, the big thing was t Mac and the talk about is 310 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.680 his foot injury that ended his spring practice early and he had surgery. It 311 00:21:15.720 --> 00:21:18.559 was at that time it was called a minor situation and it still has that 312 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.759 feel to ith. T Mac said, he felt wonderful, he feels great, 313 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.440 and you you know, you're smiling about it, and the players kind 314 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.880 of around and were laughing because they knew that he was gonna asked that question. 315 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.799 But you know, Brent Brandon said that they're gonna they're not going to 316 00:21:33.839 --> 00:21:37.519 go full board with him when Paul Camp happens, They're just gonna take it. 317 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:41.319 They're gonna be smart and ticket uh, you know, slowly with him 318 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:45.200 to get him back in the groove. But it's not an injury that's going 319 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:48.079 to keep him out. So, I mean, that's a that's the best 320 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:52.200 news to come out of it. That there's no question he's gonna play. 321 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.759 That's just how is how is he gonna be handled from the start of practice 322 00:21:55.799 --> 00:22:02.240 to the New Mexico game. Yeah, you know, Steve and I were 323 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:04.200 talking about him. Maybe you caught this. Uh you know, he was 324 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:07.319 asked about, you know what what who are you? Right? What's the 325 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.400 character of your team? And he said, I don't know. You know, 326 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:12.480 I think I think, you know, I know what I want, 327 00:22:12.519 --> 00:22:15.920 but I don't. We don't know who we are yet. I thought that 328 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:18.559 was really interesting comment that he made about that. Yeah, it's kind of 329 00:22:18.599 --> 00:22:22.599 like he said a couple of times, you know, we don't know. 330 00:22:22.759 --> 00:22:25.960 We were gonna have to wait and see how he pans out. He says 331 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.640 he's confident how he's going to do as a coach. But that was another 332 00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:32.359 thing he touched on when somebody said, uh, you know, how do 333 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.839 you feel about taking over his program and being a you know, being a 334 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:41.759 big part of it and you know, Lynch keeping it in the up trajectory 335 00:22:41.839 --> 00:22:45.880 And he said, you know, that remains to be seen because it hasn't 336 00:22:45.880 --> 00:22:49.880 happened yet, so I mean it's a realistic viewpoint of it, and he 337 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:55.200 doesn't want to get ahead of himself and make it seem like, you know, 338 00:22:55.240 --> 00:22:57.960 he's gonna he's going to be a world beater from the beginning because he 339 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.240 hasn't played anybody yet. I mean, he hasn't coached at Arizona in one 340 00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:06.119 game yet. So it's very realistic about that, and you can't fault him 341 00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:10.119 for taking that that viewpoint. He said he hopes to be a great coach 342 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:12.200 here, but you know that remains to be seen. So when you asked 343 00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.759 him a question about a keen or the the past, you know what the 344 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:22.079 quina and did he give you the answer you were hoping for, Well, 345 00:23:22.119 --> 00:23:25.720 yeah, because he touched on that he wants to u of a guys who 346 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.079 know they're the past and who understand how important it is to be part of 347 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:33.799 that program. Because let's face that, Arizona is not, you know, 348 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:36.480 one of the top Power five programs in the country. I mean, they're 349 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:41.160 a Power five country. I've been a Power five team, but they I 350 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:47.359 think having Babers and and Aquina and Bobby Wade, Chuck Diesel, Ricky Hanley, 351 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.960 it's kind of essential because they know what Arizona is all about. Where 352 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:56.279 some of these recruits might not know about Arizona because they haven't been on that 353 00:23:56.319 --> 00:24:00.000 grand stage yet college football. They've they've knocked on the door a couple of 354 00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.519 times, like last year, but it has been continuous. But people like 355 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:10.759 Babers and Keina know what potential Arizona has by being here before and making a 356 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:15.359 living off their coaching from being at Arizona before. So I think he feeled 357 00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:18.880 that that's an essential component. Let me ask you both both, because you 358 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.640 guys are grads UI grads and have a love for the u A. Do 359 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:27.359 you think that was to the demise of the guys since told me that they 360 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:37.160 didn't embrace that more. I've said for a number of times that you know, 361 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:44.440 when coaches get fired sometimes it's because they didn't make that connection right and 362 00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:48.880 they don't have, you know, sort of the support, you know behind 363 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:52.640 the scenes of people who feel that connection, say you don't give this guy, 364 00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:55.880 you know, like Mike Stoopids. I think if he would have embraced 365 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:59.680 that more than he did, he could have, he would he might not 366 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:02.359 have been fired when he got fired. And I think the same thing with 367 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.079 rich Rod. You know, with the thing that happened, he might have 368 00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:11.720 weathered that had he embraced that that connection as well. I've believed that Cub 369 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:17.200 Yeah, I agree. And then I mean, look at it went from 370 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:22.400 Stoops to rich Rod to someone in in in that time it declined like the 371 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.960 holding onto the past. You know, Salavea was with Stoops as a as 372 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:30.759 an assistant were once that. Once that change came about with rich Rod came 373 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:34.480 in, he left, and I think that that was kind of an indication 374 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.880 of how things are going to change, not so much for the better. 375 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.480 I mean, rich Rod had a couple of good years there at the beginning, 376 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:45.680 but the recruiting really tailed off and then someone just fell off the cliff. 377 00:25:45.240 --> 00:25:51.279 And I think that bringing this back at this point that the sense of 378 00:25:51.359 --> 00:25:55.400 pride in the program from before, from the nineties. Bred Brendan made a 379 00:25:55.400 --> 00:25:59.920 comment that he's look, he's excited about bringing back the nineties generation. That 380 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.640 that's when Arizona two of its best teams in the history of the program. 381 00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.279 So I think bringing that back is essential for this. Do they need a 382 00:26:07.319 --> 00:26:11.799 guy with Arizona background to be a good coach, not necessarily, but they're 383 00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.599 in a situation right now where they do have somebody who was a grad assistant 384 00:26:15.599 --> 00:26:18.559 and his brother played in Arizona and he knows these coaches from their time in 385 00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:23.960 Arizona before. So I think it's essential right now to where the program is. 386 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:27.359 But well, I was gonna say, and I just also think that 387 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.200 you know, look, Arizona doesn't have like some rich football history, you 388 00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.440 know, not a like a USC or house date of you know, but 389 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:41.640 what history they have, it's ours. It's it's our history, and it's 390 00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:45.480 important to fans like me, you know, to have that right, you 391 00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:48.880 know. I mean it's not like, you know, they've got all these 392 00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:52.359 championships in their background and stuff like that, but yet we still feel good 393 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:56.960 about, well what it's been. There's my analogy. It's might it might 394 00:26:56.960 --> 00:27:03.440 be an ugly baby, but it's my baby, right Yeah. Unfortunately, 395 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.640 areas of football has been an ugly baby. He set that up. Are 396 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:14.680 you so well have basically no, But you guys, we talked about this 397 00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:17.680 Jay and how you've lived it, because you've written a number of stories about 398 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:25.279 it through the history, a handful of strong seasons and no championships, and 399 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.680 that's right. But again it's still ours, you know, we still there's 400 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:33.079 certain aspects of it that that that we love about it, partly because Steve 401 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:37.599 where we came from. You know, I was around for the whack years, 402 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:41.319 right, you know they're in the Whack and you're like, now we're 403 00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:45.200 big time because we're in the Pac ten and so you know that's where we 404 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.799 came from. If you feel like USC has been USC forever, right, 405 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:53.960 Arizona in our lifetime, you know, was was New Mexico and Colorado State 406 00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:59.039 and now that they've been playing with the big boys all this time, that's 407 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:02.160 our history. Hold on for a second, because we asked, we talked 408 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.160 to had this conversation yesterday. I don't know if you heard us yesterday talking 409 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.720 about the hoity toity, but there's a sense of entitlement. And what was 410 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:14.240 the phrase that we used about the Arizona itself being full of themselves or something 411 00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:19.880 was something? Well they god, I remember exactly what we said. They 412 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.200 just got ahead of themselves, ahead of themselves and maybe full of they think 413 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.599 they're more than they they think we're more than we are. You grew up 414 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:30.440 here just a little younger than me and and a little younger than Jeha than 415 00:28:30.519 --> 00:28:34.599 Jay. Uh. Do you've sensed that too, because you've you covered the 416 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.119 teams of time or two and it seems like it's they can't handle prosperity. 417 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.519 Yeah. I agree that. Uh, we think of maybe Arizona more than 418 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:49.640 others that outsiders might think, right, but that like because we lived it. 419 00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.519 I was, I was there when Jim Young was coaching. I mean 420 00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:56.960 I was, I was in an elementary school, but I remember going to 421 00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.039 those games and and just growing up in it. Since we grew up in 422 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.799 it, we kind of have a different kind of thought process about Arizona football, 423 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.359 whereas others who might have just moved here, like even ten years ago, 424 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.400 over like this. This program is not what it should be, you 425 00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:18.599 know, and it's true. So I think it's because of our background and 426 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.240 we think that Arizona, I mean, like I always thought Arizon's gonna Rose 427 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.880 Bowl and that that never happened. So I'm sorry, Jed, I mean, 428 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.279 you know, but you know, we always think that, you know, 429 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.359 it's growing up in Tucson, that Arizona's going to Rose Bowl, Arizona 430 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.200 is gonna be able to upset U, s LA and USC more than more 431 00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.640 than once every other year, you know, kind of like the people want 432 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:47.519 Arizona to be relevant. Yeah, grew up there, and it's been an 433 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:52.079 ongoing struggle, like a rollercoaster ride to make that happen. With all these 434 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:55.920 coaching changes, going from a high to a low a lot, it's been 435 00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.680 a real struggle for Arizona fans. Yeah, no, it has. I 436 00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:03.079 think what we're saying is that we just you know, Arizona has a great 437 00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.720 season and they think they're there and they're not right. That's what I mean 438 00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.839 by getting getting ahead of themselves. And this is another one of those years 439 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:18.160 where you know, we're sitting here trying to hold back the expectations because you 440 00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.680 don't want to have these expectations in case it falls apart. If you were 441 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.039 a trend player, guess what you would bet, you'd bet for a demise, 442 00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:30.720 right, Yeah. After they have a great year, they struggle. 443 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:34.440 Yeah, and then you're throw on top of that new coach and all that 444 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.000 kind of stuff. It's like, you know, the odds really are against 445 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:42.720 them repeating what they did last year. They really are. But yet we're 446 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:48.319 sitting here thinking they could win the League. Well, this is probably rose 447 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:52.200 colored glasses talking, but I think they're going to have a better year than 448 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.079 what we've seen after good years because of the type of players that have returned, 449 00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.039 Right, I think that's huge. I mean, if there was a 450 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.160 mass exodus and I think we could forecast another downturn. But you really can't 451 00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:08.519 think that way with the talent that's coming back that Arizona has, I mean 452 00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.720 NFL quality talent, right, and some of the other guys. Let me 453 00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.839 get your thoughts on this, because Steve and I talked about this a little 454 00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:18.119 bit ago, and it's kind of on the edge of getting into some of 455 00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:23.720 the cultural political correctness or whatever you want to call it. But you know, 456 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:32.880 I I suggested had had their best players team ac No Offafida, Jacob 457 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:40.200 Manu, these guys not been Polynesian players from a culture that cares about family 458 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:47.599 and loyalty and relationships and all these things. Had they not been those guys, 459 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:49.640 could they have held this team together? You know? Could you have 460 00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:56.480 seen those guys scatter to places abroad as opposed to staying around where they all 461 00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.440 got together and said, we all care about each other and we're gonna stay 462 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:05.400 here. You and that came out today with what Mishall showed up with Laison 463 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.680 that McMillan the mom made for them and then those things and looks like they 464 00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:14.039 were easy to make, and she made five of them and she transported them 465 00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.200 in a cooler cooler and presented them at the Bellagio. I mean, that's 466 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.079 just part of the culture. And I think I think them sticking that was 467 00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.400 part of them sticking together too. A lot of them share that kind of 468 00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:30.799 family bond away from football, and I think that helped them stay. And 469 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:35.720 you're right if if they didn't have that, they might have been different. 470 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:39.480 A different result would have happened, most likely of them spreading going to different 471 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:45.119 com uh well you know programs right and not saying in Arizona. And I 472 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:50.200 think Brenton is the big you know, he ties up like a bow because 473 00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.799 he has a background of coaching in Hawaii, being with Dick Tomy, has 474 00:32:54.279 --> 00:33:01.039 great Polynesian uh background with you know, friends that are Polynesian. Klane Sataki 475 00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:06.519 told me that he he's that Brent Brennan's awesome and he loves him because they 476 00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.279 coach together and he gets it, you know, And I think that's huge 477 00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:15.480 that Brandon came in this situation with these Polnesian leaders really on the team, 478 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:20.240 it all was like a perfect storm to have to have Brendan be the coach 479 00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.279 because of his background with the Polynesian culture, right, yea. The one 480 00:33:23.279 --> 00:33:27.319 thing about Brendan to me is that he doesn't blow smoke. And he doesn't 481 00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.680 blow smoke. I don't feel like he does. No, no, and 482 00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:34.599 not that Jed did he see. I didn't get that when I didn't get 483 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.920 close to jad too. I didn't get close to like the guys who loved 484 00:33:37.960 --> 00:33:40.359 him loved him and then he disturbed him and now they hate him. I 485 00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.319 really didn't get close to him because I didn't know how good of a coach 486 00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.160 he is. I still don't know. I mean, honestly, I don't 487 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.839 know. Yeah, Jee, I still don't know. Three years here was 488 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.839 not an off. That's not a sample size. Well, I've seen this 489 00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:59.200 on social media and I agree with it. Of course, we never know, 490 00:33:59.279 --> 00:34:04.519 but you know, if if Laura doesn't get hurt, Fafida doesn't play 491 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.599 much and he might be gone, he might not even be at Arizona, 492 00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:10.239 and this whole thing would be just unrally. Of course, Fish might not 493 00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.679 get a job elsewhere because they might not have went ten and three with Dlaura's 494 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:21.320 quarterback. So it's I think. I think Fish sticking with Jada and Laura 495 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.840 like he did instead of giving Fida a chance after de Laura really struggled. 496 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:29.280 Yeah, that doesn't look good on Fish, I think. And he was 497 00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:30.719 like, Okay, we're going to have to play no one else, so 498 00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.760 he's going to get a chance because of the injury. And then I don't 499 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:40.440 think that shows well on Fish. That's a good point evaluation process. That's 500 00:34:40.440 --> 00:34:45.800 a really good point. But you know, similar situation with calil Tate and 501 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:53.039 uh and rich Rod sitting there and it was Brandon Dawkins, right, and 502 00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:54.719 and all of a sudden he said, okay, I got a play, 503 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.920 hi. Because Brandon Dawkins comes out for a couple of plays. That's everything 504 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:01.159 changed. That's the odd with coaches. You think that they would know better 505 00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:05.639 or see better because they're with them every day, right, and they two 506 00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.280 dudes who know football one more Mike Stewts did it with with Nick Foles and 507 00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.480 Matt Scott, right, So there's gotta be it's just strange, right, 508 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.000 Uh, you got something there and everybody sees it, not everybody, but 509 00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.800 then it happens. You says, how come that wasn't happened before? And 510 00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.639 you're the coach. I think the fact that the players are close to Noah 511 00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:28.719 Fa, I think with him coming in, I think that that meant a 512 00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.199 lot to them, and that that really that really they won a five game 513 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:37.760 winning streak. You your honor. The defense arrests. They said that from 514 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.320 the from that time on. Yeah, and I was laughed at a little 515 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.599 by a few people. And let me tell you what happens. You feel 516 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.599 more confident, you feel you it's it's the Steve Kirk factor. You play 517 00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:54.239 harder because you love the dude. Yeah. Yeah, he's a leader too. 518 00:35:54.800 --> 00:36:00.239 Yeah, and he doesn't with he does it with one hundred percent genuinely, 519 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:07.360 when means the way the way he conducts himself. Okay, have enjoy 520 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:10.519 your last day in Vegas. We'll see you back here tomorrow. Okay, 521 00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.119 thanks BG, All right, take care read the Javier at all sports you 522 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:20.639 Sun dot com. He doesn't sleep just so you could read him. That's 523 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.559 right, I guess. So we went a segment without me screwing up Big 524 00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.679 twelve and Pact twelve. The whole segment because how it did all the top 525 00:36:27.760 --> 00:36:30.599 two to one one. All right, we're gonna take our break. We'll 526 00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:32.320 be back for the last segment. Give us a call five two zero four 527 00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:37.440 forty. If you're an Arizona men's basketball fan, you know it's been successful 528 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.880 for nearly forty years. 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I mean iHeartRadio. Wam Hey, 569 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.639 welcome back to il the ball. Here know Fox Sports fourteen fifty. 570 00:39:52.639 --> 00:39:55.320 I'm Steve PJ. We have henryet thirteen minutes. We went a little over. 571 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:59.039 If you want to call us five, please do five, two zero 572 00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.039 or one, six, seventy four or forty. You could talk about the 573 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:07.079 Big twelve company. You know. The whole idea behind Steve is to break 574 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:14.239 ourselves up that the habit of the habit of big We've got a call. 575 00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.719 Let's take this call. Hi, you're on the air and on the ball. 576 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.880 Nico, what's up? Hey man? I want to talk about these 577 00:40:22.920 --> 00:40:24.519 helmets? Man, Oh, let's do that. I kind of't even know 578 00:40:24.519 --> 00:40:28.119 where you're gonna go with it, but go. I hate it, man, 579 00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.679 Holy moly, well looking you're growing up, Nico. I like it, 580 00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.039 hey man. I grew up during the Magnetic era, going in that 581 00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:40.119 halftime so my dad could come down from his buzz, and they wore white 582 00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.559 helmets with a big air on them. Yeah you don't. Why don't you 583 00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:50.639 like them? I just like the simple arison A helmet, Yeah, just 584 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:52.760 simple a right, Yes, I grew up with that and I had to 585 00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.920 do with the blue ones and the copper ones and the red It's just like 586 00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.039 Ko finally went back to it. You don't you know me myself and and 587 00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:06.079 Jay go back and forth arguing about that stuff with look good, play good. 588 00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:08.920 I don't believe in it. Which way do you fall when it comes 589 00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:13.559 thereson a football well, just if you general in general, just you know, 590 00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:16.480 do you have to look look good to play good? No? Not 591 00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:21.599 really exactly exactly. You're either good or not, you know, exact exactly. 592 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:24.440 I didn't say you have to. I said you can though. I 593 00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:29.239 mean, you might feel better about yourself. But if you suck exactly, 594 00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:35.239 that's when that's my next book. If you suck, you suck. I 595 00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.039 thought Bret Brett Brennan did pretty good to the media. Yeah, I you 596 00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:43.840 know, I thought you did a good job. Again, we're talking about 597 00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.480 how he looks like a coach, he feels like a coach. Sounds like, 598 00:41:47.480 --> 00:41:50.559 so do you think how many games do you think they're gonna winn? 599 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:58.280 Eco? Wow? Six? You said that with conviction? Why do you 600 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:00.599 think that? I'm in the bar low man? So I don't get my 601 00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.880 heart broken? Man, footballs curse man, we know that. We're just 602 00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:12.239 trying to figure out where the curse started. Mm hmmm. Probably when they 603 00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:17.480 didn't build a statue for the comment. Oh what, you're funny. What 604 00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:22.440 year was that? I don't know. My grandpa used to talk about the 605 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:25.440 comments. That's that's pretty funny. That's funny. Well, thank you, 606 00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.519 Nico Man, thanks for listening. Take it easy, man, that's funny. 607 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:37.159 When did a comment play fifties? That was that? Is that a 608 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.639 pino? That's okay? Late in the fifties. Yeah, I don't even 609 00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:45.800 know what I'm the same. I think it happened in the sixties. That's 610 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:50.280 when the the Goat came out or something. Yeah, I don't know. 611 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.840 I still I still think I had to do with the the ultimatum bullet. 612 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:58.079 Do you think so you said, Brian, Well, you said how you 613 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.519 gave Brendan a name? You said what a great name? Or you said 614 00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:05.280 that's a great name. You said something I didn't want to ask because I 615 00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.119 missed that. I missed that he said that grit's a great word or something 616 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:13.000 like that about Brennan. Uh, okay, I'll ask before you remember. 617 00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:15.199 Do you do you think that in the next eighteen months, I'll give you 618 00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:21.039 the eighteen month rule here. Uh with doctor Robbins. Uh, there'll be 619 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.920 a named there was only stadium sponsor. Yes, I do. I think 620 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:29.840 they'll find a sponsor. Yeah, I think they'll find a sponsor. And 621 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.800 I think, yeah, I think maybe it obviously won't be this season, 622 00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:36.239 but maybe next Go ahead and take that. Hi, you're on there and 623 00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:38.800 I on the ball. Hey, what's up this? Vic? Vic? 624 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.159 What's going on? Man? Real quick? I wanted to bring up the 625 00:43:44.239 --> 00:43:50.239 survey thing. Man, okay, and I bet you you guys can research 626 00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.440 it. But there's not another team in the country that brought three high school 627 00:43:53.679 --> 00:44:00.880 kids from the same high school to their media day. Oh yeah, funny 628 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.239 that survey thing. Honestly, it's saved. There was on a football and 629 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.039 absolutely did say there was on football. Uh. And think about it. 630 00:44:08.079 --> 00:44:15.199 They were not They had won before when Troy Thomas got there. You know, 631 00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.599 they were the third place team in that league to Modern Day and and 632 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:27.280 uh and Bosco and then Noah and and left bought their Juice County guys there 633 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:30.199 and they actually ended up they they never did get over the hump and win 634 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.039 the state, but they did beat Bosco and Modern Day in both years, 635 00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:37.840 senior and senior years. So Vic, let me ask you, because you're 636 00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:40.519 you're close to the family at least you know them fairly well, Uh, 637 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.440 will there be a residual effect from all this? Uh, you know, 638 00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:49.760 not just this year but beyond with the guys? Oh here, Yeah, 639 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:55.119 Noah's little brother plays at Modern Day right now. Noah's little brother plays there 640 00:44:55.199 --> 00:45:00.280 right now. And I went and saw the Juice County team, and I 641 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.039 think I talked to you a little bit about it. See, but they 642 00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:09.079 have eighth graders that are like six four ninety on the line. I kid, 643 00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:15.039 you're not. It was. I was so impressed. They have a 644 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:19.199 quarterback that throws the ball like forty yards on a dime. And I'm like, 645 00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.880 yes, these are eighth graders. He goes, yeah, Well, 646 00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:29.280 what is brother a quarterback as well? No, he's a linebacker. He's 647 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:31.800 a line but not as big, and I don't think he's gonna have the 648 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:39.800 impact that Noah or Jacob have. But he's a stud. Okay, Well, 649 00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:45.599 if you think they're going to continue this kind of symmetry or whatever word 650 00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:47.480 is, you know the connection that you know, because you got to start 651 00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:51.519 somewhere, right Uh, Luke had to start it somewhere and it worked and 652 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.960 it just brought talent, brought more talent, and it just didn't stop. 653 00:45:55.119 --> 00:46:00.320 Yeah, and I believe that Huges County Buckeye thing is uh, it's going 654 00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:06.480 thing. Okay, all right, really really like I said that serve By 655 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.960 thing, it's pretty amazing when you when you one school took three guys from 656 00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.880 that. Can you imagine taking like three Stout Point guys or two Son High 657 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.679 guys. It'd be all over the news, right right, all right, 658 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.000 you guys man, it was a great show. Was awesome. He was 659 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:27.039 good. Yeah. Well, we're gonna start. We're gonna start start a 660 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:34.159 law firm. Uh, Morales, Rivera and Gonzales. I'd probably be down 661 00:46:34.239 --> 00:46:37.079 enough to hire you guys. We're cheap. We're cheap. You will, 662 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:45.199 don't worry you will, all right. Thanks. I'm just curious because you 663 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:46.719 know, you start, you start getting talent and getting talent, and then 664 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:51.599 the word of mouth, especially by people who actually like it here and want 665 00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:53.719 to be here. Oh you got to go to you know, gotta gotta 666 00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:58.159 continue the legacy. Yeada YadA. Yeah, it sounds good, but I 667 00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.920 don't know if well, you know, and I mean in some you know, 668 00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.440 some places you get that legs you. Right, Helix High School is 669 00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:06.519 the one that sticks out for Arizona, right, you know, go back 670 00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:09.760 to Alan dur and Chuck Cecil, you know, Brandon Sanders, Hammersmith, 671 00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:13.599 all those guys, right, And so if you know, you get in, 672 00:47:13.800 --> 00:47:16.159 you get into that. And I you know, I don't know if 673 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:20.800 I've told you, but I went to when I did a story with Larry 674 00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.840 McDuff, the old defensive coordinator on recruiting, and I went with him on 675 00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:30.360 a recruiting trip to San Diego where they were just doing evaluations, right. 676 00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.519 They were going in they couldn't even talk to players, they had to they 677 00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:36.320 were going in to see film and talk to coaches and stuff. And I 678 00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.159 went with him to Helix High School, and the presence of Arizona over there 679 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:45.480 was at that time, you know, pretty uh substantial, right you know. 680 00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:50.039 But Duff walks in and everybody knew him, you know, and it 681 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.920 was kind of like Arizona was the thing there. And and if you get 682 00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.079 into a school like that, you know, you can keep that for a 683 00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.360 really long time, right, right, It's kind of like the club you 684 00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:04.440 have Oklahoma hat on or shirt on, you walk into a room, just 685 00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:07.119 like walking into your room. You know who he is, you know his 686 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.440 purpose, right and and and so yeah, you know, to get you 687 00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:14.000 know, you know, to get a bunch of players from from a school 688 00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.360 like that, you'll always have a presence there. As long as you don't 689 00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:20.639 screw it up and do something wrong. You're exactly as long as you mess 690 00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:22.679 it up. How many times could you say that for anything? As long 691 00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.360 as you don't screw it, you don't go do something, you don't offend 692 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.400 them in any way or something like that. Yeah, yeah, you know, 693 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.760 Yeah, so I think that, uh, you know, Big makes 694 00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:37.159 a good point that they can they can keep getting guys from there, and 695 00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.079 if they continue to turn out players, then that's a good place, a 696 00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:43.760 good place to be. Like learn all the relationships that yeah, you has 697 00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:45.719 had with you know, some of those Phoenix schools. They've never done anything 698 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.159 with it, but you know, but they've had those relationships. And you 699 00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.599 think that to be a no brainer, you know, no brainer, and 700 00:48:51.719 --> 00:48:55.159 it doesn't really And actually Jed went in there and made some headway in there, 701 00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:59.000 and and you have to do that. But well you look at look 702 00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:01.559 at some point here. How many times have things gone no south? And 703 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.119 it happened a year ago that when you think it'd be a no brainer. 704 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.880 Yeah, No, not necessarily. Well again, because you know the recent 705 00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:14.039 history of Arizona's relationship with that school has not been good, right, right, 706 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:15.880 and it was not good at all before the Jed got here. Yeah, 707 00:49:16.519 --> 00:49:20.719 So okay, anybody want to call. We have a little time left. 708 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:22.880 We got got a couple of minutes left, so you can eat your 709 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.760 call in about four minutes. Actually, a good show today, A good 710 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:30.239 show today, tomorrow. We'reloaded for the next couple of days. Yeah, 711 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:31.840 and I just got a confirmation. Looks like we are going to have ACU 712 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:37.039 athletic director a Grammar on Friday. We can have a lot of good grafts 713 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:38.679 here the next couple of days. Yeah, So it should be fun. 714 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:45.920 We're just kind of talking about in transition to the it'll be good as long 715 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:51.920 as you don't screw it up. That's a possibility. We can. You 716 00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:53.440 know, we're good at screwing up anything. We can screw up anything. 717 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:57.440 Yeah, go ahead and say, go ahead and say that favorite conference that 718 00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.960 you love now, I'm not going to touch it. For now, I'm 719 00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:04.559 trying to get out of here. It's already two to one over here. 720 00:50:05.039 --> 00:50:08.519 So anyway, that's three bucks in the pot already. But no, you 721 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.039 know what, uh, you know, kind of wrapping up, you know, 722 00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.920 thoughts on on on big twelve media days? Is that one? First 723 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:20.280 of all, it's a two day event, a lot of media there, 724 00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:23.440 a lot of attention on it, a lot of national media talking about it, 725 00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:30.320 and you feel like Arizona has landed in a really good place. I 726 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.440 totally agree. I totally agree. People, you guys got you guys were 727 00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.679 a little sentimental about it, and I get that and I continue to be 728 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.599 and I get that. But let's move on, and it's gonna be fun, 729 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:43.239 right, I think it is gonna be fun. You're starting to get 730 00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:46.320 marriage is over. You found your next one. Enjoy it and she might 731 00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:50.800 be hotter, and she might she might treat you better. Yes, and 732 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:55.480 alreage, that's all we're looking for. Just treat you better, make me 733 00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.800 a nice dinner with some candles and some mandolins and stuff, and world, 734 00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:01.440 go see a movie. But but I do, you know, I do 735 00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.719 believe that that they're they're in a better place and I've I loved the PAC 736 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:13.519 twelve. I did. I loved the PAC twelve, but it was sometimes 737 00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:17.480 it was just cringe worthy that the things that the places where it's stepped on 738 00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.480 itself, you know, and and screwed things up, you know, the 739 00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:25.039 direct TV thing, and just so many mistakes that they would make that they 740 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:30.960 would get ridiculed for by the national media. And and you're saying, well, 741 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.719 I know we're stupid in a lot of ways, but we're still fun 742 00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.679 and we're still a good conference. But you feel like that's kind of washed 743 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.760 away because now you're in a league that has a commissioner that means business. 744 00:51:44.119 --> 00:51:46.239 Right, he's got a how can I should? Every commissioner has an ego, 745 00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:50.400 right, everybody they wouldn't get there if an ego. He has a 746 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.079 certain kind of did he say swagger, He's got a sense of he does 747 00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:59.039 have a swagger, as like, you know, my my poop doesn't stink 748 00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:00.440 and let me tell you why. Yeah, you know, and we're not 749 00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:04.400 gonna let anybody take our thunder. Kind of like that type of thing. 750 00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.440 Different than Larry Scott. Larry Scott was like, you know, kind of 751 00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.760 like the salesman the car salesman, the lawyer. Yeah, he kept trying 752 00:52:09.800 --> 00:52:15.800 to convince you that everything was great when the freaking sky was falling right right 753 00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.159 right, and say, well, that's not the sky, that's other stuff. 754 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.559 You know, it's not even blue. So I in that sense. 755 00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:23.000 You know, what I've gotten from the from these last couple of days is 756 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:27.480 that Arizona is in a good spot. And I like the spot that they're 757 00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:30.639 in. It feels better because the football team is expected to be good, 758 00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:35.480 so you feel like, okay, we're a good play. Football's gonna be 759 00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.280 good. Basketball is gonna have a fun time in the sight. They might 760 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.639 not win it, but they'll be better for me. Fun. Yeah, 761 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:44.960 it's gonna be fun. And I think softball, everything everything is basketball. 762 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:49.119 I think it's all gonna be. And then we're headed for for what's going 763 00:52:49.159 --> 00:52:51.639 to be a really fun time in this league. And I'm looking forward to 764 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.320 getting started. Okay, all right, let's hit the road. We're gonna 765 00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:58.199 be back tomorrow. We've got some great guests we're lining up for the next 766 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.719 couple of days, so be sure to come back and give us a list 767 00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:02.239 and give us a call. Five two zero four one six seventy four forty 768 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:02.880 with see tomorrow