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Hello everybody, and welcome to That's
Not Metal for a little bit of a

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late hyper blast. But here we
are once again hitting you up with everything

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you need to know in terms of
rock and metal news, everything big that

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has gone on in these here parts
in the last seven days or so.

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My name is Parnheish with me once
again for one of these. We've got

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Mark Sanderson and Sam Dignon. This
is the post download week. I suppose

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I know a lot of you guys
listening. We'll have you know, now

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returned from a download festival. We
are going to talk about some of the

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things that kind of emerged out of
download festival in a little while. But

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even without that, just like it
was last week when we had all sorts

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of talking to talk about. I
don't know what it is. This June

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just feels like one of the biggest
live music, everything big going on at

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once. Things I've I've experienced one
time, even though I'm primarily not a

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part of that, but everything's going
down. The three of us here all

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had stuff to talk about. Before
we do that, I'll just say,

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you know, pleasantries, Hello,
how are we Yeah, I'm all good.

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I'm excited to chat about the live
music. I was like, I've

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been busy at a full weekend,
like three hardcore gigs in three days.

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Who do I think? I am? Like, yeah, were you?

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Were you aching come come the end
of the mon Monday and we're going to

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work in Monday morning. I was
just like, man, this is a

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mistake. Yeah. I did two
nights in the trot, which I try

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not to do anymore because my body
is all made of shit. You recovered

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from Finland yet barely I've barely had
time, Like you say, every show

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was just happening this month. Yeah, well the only thing I actually have

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this month apart from, you know, after the Fortunes Festival, which I

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feel like this tour has kind of
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overshadowed by everything else going on.
But I do want to stress how fucking

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sick it was. I want to
see High on Fire, who their new

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album is absolutely brilliant, and they're
always brilliant, but this new album is

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very, very, very good.
And I was really excited for this tour,

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you know, for months, because
the last time I saw High on

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Fire was Damnation Festival twenty fifteen,
nine years ago. I missed the whole

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cycle for the last album and getting
to go to a headline show in Rebellion

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in Manchester, which is like a
three four hundred cap venue or something,

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and I was like, I wonder
if anyone who's ever won a Grammy before

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has then place his venue. It
was very, very surreal once I started

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thinking about it in that way.
But one of the absolute like best bands

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in their particular lane ever and getting
to see them at you know, their

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own show tory for such a great
album was a real treat. They opened

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with the song Burning Down, which
was deleting from the current album, which

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has this huge, like cyclical kind
of hypnotic riff. They were absurdly loud,

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like one of the most like I
am very like I was grateful to

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have ear plugs you know kind of
shows, because it felt like it was

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just like hammering on my heart.
It was crazy. And again the three

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guys come out. The new drummer, Cody is incredibly like excitable and like

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looks like he's having the most fun
playing the drums again. First song Burning

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Down, Jeff the bassist walks out
and he's got one of those like double

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necked guitars, one of which was
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which was like a you know,
a more six string guitar, just

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looking like an absolute dude. And
there was one point, I swear to

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god, there was one point where
we was playing both necks at the same

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time because he was tapping with like
one hand on each neck doing something and

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I was like, that is a
guy who knows how to fucking rock,

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Like no one has ever rocked harder
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of course on sensational form. They
were in fact, so you know,

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just again from burning down then straight
into turk, which is just like

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full on drum fill cacophony, those
fast songs like Rumors of War. I

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was after going fucking mental for absolutely
incredible. But they were so ass kicking

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that they basically like like uh,
completely fucked up the bass rig And there

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was a point where everything just like
broke. He stopped and we had like

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a weird it was like, you
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Pike's guitar was still on, so
him and the drummer just like a weird

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like instrumental jam for gen about five
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like you know the crew and if
he tried to fix this base thing looking

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at settlers for the tool. I
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least we lost come down Hessian,
which is a sad thing, but once

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he's got back on track again.
Just absolutely it was like one of those

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gigs that felt like they were like
wrestling with the power of technology to keep

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up with, Like how insanely powerful
they were. Absolutely, like, you

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know, apart from the fact that
it broke down halfway through, it might

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as well have been a perfect gig, Like they were just one of the

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most ass kicking bands you can see
on the entire planet. And like I

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said, that felt like the kind
of minor story in like meus this week,

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I don't want stress how sick it
was, Sam. I guess some

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of your bands that we're going to
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the download situation that we can talk
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day extravaganza of outbreak prefest warm up, I guess. I guess, Yeah,

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a couple of hardcore weekenders it in
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yeah, it started off with a
show. I was very very excited about

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Code Orange, their first London headline
show in essentially a decade that feels very

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weird. Yeah, they've done like
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in London for like ten years.
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excited sold out at the Dome,
So this this like was like, oh

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hell yeah, I will say this
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of had to grudgingly accept something seeing
Code Orange where I was kind of like,

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oh, yeah, if I want
Code Orange to be as big as

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I want them to be, I
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outbreak set we saw last year,
for example, because the crowd like not

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that outbreak crowd like you saw how
like that outbreak I was like tearing each

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other to piece, bodies flying everywhere. They obviously actually have appealed to an

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awful lot of metal fans, like
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that London show on the night,
and as a result, it was the

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vibes were were very different. Started
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opening with Never Far Apart into Fear
of Cruelty and to take Shape was very

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much although you do like the second
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It Do It bit like that that
comes in as they're sort of opening but

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already beginning to sort of like not
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that you might usually expect from Code
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like gradual build take shape. Sounded
fucking incredible life And this was that was

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the moment I wasn't going like,
oh yeah, well this is what Code

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Orange could be. This just like
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Then they did like drowning in It, the remix of the chitar track from

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Underneath, like pop the room off. It was then when they went swallowing

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that pole that was mem whyle.
I was like, you know what,

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I've had enough and I was throwing
my body off the stage and I was

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like I need to get something o
from this crowd. But they were brilliant.

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They were just like cod Ons play
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times. Probably Jane was probably the
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of actually being a bit more like
thankful to the crowd, saying like this

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is fucking wicked you're here. Like
the less the kind of violent killing machine

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that's stalking the stage. Like again, like the outbreak was and more a

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metal front man who was actually somewhat
relatable. Setlist, great mix of of

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like the last three albums predominantly nice
to see a little bit more of underneath

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getting their cold metal place was really
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The closing run was when it just
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this is shit kicking time. When
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like as a run, I was
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I'm on the stage spin kicking forever. I'm actually like, I know,

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I feel like I was like,
I'm a terrible person with this,

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but I like stage dive, come
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and washing and I was like,
you know what, Like if I'm gonna

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do it for any band, I'm
gonna color. And then they end on

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the above like which just sounded fucking
glorious as a close, and I was

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kind of like, you know what, I'm not getting, you know,

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the full of on violent intensity of
the Outbreak set, but kind of getting

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a bit of everything with Code Orage
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You're getting so everyone dance having fun, and I was kind of like,

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this feels like a necessary step to
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It was absolutely spectacular. Everyone in
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and I gathered they end up having
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download, so that that's you know, they've had a they've had a they

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had a busy weekend Code Orange.
But yeah, they are still one of

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the best life bands on the planet, and I hope they kind of actually

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get a proper tour going and start
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So what's the deal with this weekend? The thing? Because I know that

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you were again you saw essentially the
same bill. A couple of things are

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the like, is this part of
the uh? The bands who pulled out

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of Download them been a replacement thing
put on? Sure what exactly was going

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on? The replacement on was on
the Friday initially the in London, the

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Flats What Records? Who are one
of them? Sort of really cool hard

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for labels at the moment. They
have Speed, Zulu, Scoal bugging like

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a bunch of really rad bands.
They would They had a weekend sort of

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showcase booked at the Dome on Download
weekend. Most of promoted all the bands

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on that who were playing Download were
the ones who pulled out Speed scal Zulu.

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I ended up only going to the
to that the Saturday show, which

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was Scowl, Chubby and the Gang, Jive Bomb and Stiff Meds, and

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then I decided Scowl doing a really
cheap show and Brighton the next day and

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I'm just kind of currently obsessed with
Scouts. Why spent the day and bright

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with friends and then went to that
and that was good fun. But yeah,

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I'll kind of really talk about the
flat Spot thing Scowl would the both

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nights was largely the same set.
They did do a surprise encore in Brighton,

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which was nice, like an actual
unplanned like they'd finished the set and

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everyone was kind of just like,
no, no, come on, goop

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you one more that actually, and
they were like, do we actually do

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it on core? Okay, we
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But yeah. Stiff Meds, who
opened the Flat Spot show on the Saturday,

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totally solid hardcore punk, like enjoyable, Like I had fun watching them.

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They didn't blow me away, but
they were like a solid opening of

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this sort of thing. Jive Bomb
really impressed with them there. One I'm

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gonna be keeping an eye on again
on the punky side of hardcore, but

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with a like real mean edge there
vocalist. She's tiny, but she seems

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like the sort of person who would
like beat the shit. I you've be

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pissed her off, like she had
like fierce and and her like screaming is

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like really a guttural. They were
really impressive. They they were. They

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supported Scale on both nights I saw
them, and those two shows, I'm

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like, yeah, no, give
one more wicked. I think they're an

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outbreak if you are going, I
do recommend seeing them, but they also

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do clash with balance and composure.
Chevy and the Gang was an interesting one

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because I remember a couple of years
ago there was a lot of there was

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quite a bit of buzz around them, and they kind of felt like they

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were getting a lot of big support
slots, and it feels like it's not

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really gone anywhere. They were fine
again, Like, I think they're quite

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fun showing the Gang, but I
don't know, it's just kind of fairly

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standard shouty punk, isn't it,
Like, but yeah, totally decent and

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Scale, who again, I think
are one of the most exciting newer hardcore

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bands. They're like of the crop
of the new hard call bands I Want's

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traving up. They're probably my personal
favorite, just because I think the thing

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they're doing like really taps into what
I like about Parkle with like the really

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like punk heage, but then also
the sort of alt rock touches. I

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think Kat is a fucking superstar.
She is like one of the great hardcore

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vocalists right now. Just a really
great presence on stage. Both nights they

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just came on, ripped through half
an hour, played like the entire Psychic

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dancrouteen EP most of the album like
that again though those Psychic Dancer team tracks

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are the kind of real standouts in
the Scale set now, but they're still

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really fun stuff from the first down
and stuff like four Walls and fuck Around

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find Out like those get the crowd
going. But like the title track of

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Psychic Dance Routine, which is big
single on Everyone Dancing Opening Night as their

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closer again, just bodies flying everywhere
that they're really onto it with Scale.

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I think I think the test and
them will be with the next time where

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they followup this EP where they go. But yeah, it's just a really

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good showcase for them, and they
particularly again kind of at the London show

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and at the branches were sort of
again shouting out the sort of things that

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they were taking a stand against with
them putting out a download and all that.

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So, yeah, I had a
great weekend washing lots. Yeah,

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because they're you were saying that three
days on the truck you can't do so

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much anymore. How many days was
it until Billy Talent rolled around, which

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was also mark you that together.
I guess Billy Talent was on the Thursday,

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so I had MONDAYE toes Sday Wednesday
to sort of like rest and recover,

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let my body get back to sort
of feeling good decent sized venues.

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So the first like proper headline toward
Bill Talent have done in fucking ages,

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Like, yeah, they're a hard
band to gauge kind of how much they're

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around, and I don't quite know. I feel like I often see their

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name, but I've never had the
ugly to see them myself. They do,

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they do like festivals mostly here,
like you can guarantee they'll be headlining

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the third stage at Download every couple
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maybe like popping up at a slam
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the headline tours, you'll get one
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years ago, right on the release
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good. But this was like first
of people like, oh yeah, they're

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in like three thousand capacity venue in
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very nearly sold out because it was
a big crowd for them, and I

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was kind of like, oh that
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Billy Talent, and the crowd were
really up for it. Opening with Devin

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in the midnight mass as they always
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Don't Fix. It's the perfect opening
song, isn't it? Mark right?

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And I would wager the last thirty
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seconds of music when Ben just starts
screeching, ah yeah, fucking ace.

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Every time they've been doing like different
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looking at like song comparing the set
list, but yeah, like just banger

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after banger in London. Quite a
lot of Billy Talent. One showcase which

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I was very happy about. Line
and Sinker was the one that popped me

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as like when they do this bit
up and then Bench goes what cho say,

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Yes, what joke get and I
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go like that was so jealous.
I'm human. I will say though,

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you got My favorite song off of
Afraid of Heights, which I like was

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when I do want to see them
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that and I'd enjoy it really.
Yeah. It's interesting because I think this

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was the first Scottish show in about
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would have been like the Afraid of
Heights tour in twenty sixteen or something like

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that. Yeah, I think.
So the barrels was sold out and people

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were going for people were so happy
to be like it was just such a

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nice atmosphere to be in. That's
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celebratory. Everyone actually just having a
really good time, like yeah, and

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it was quite a you know,
a diverse crowd as well. Where near

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the end of the set, I
was knackers went near the back and I

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ended up like dancing with this old
retired guy. And also it's like young

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girl to Red Flag and all of
us just going crazy for it. And

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it's I've been a Billy Talent fan
since I was about eleven and never got

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the chance to see them because they
just pop up randomly without much fanfare,

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and I never get a chance to
see them. So seeing songs like Red

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Flag and Fallen Leaves, it was
like healing by in her child, you

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know. It was just such a
wholesome time. They sound so tight,

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they sound the same as they do
on record, and I was just in

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disbelief. Oh, it was so
big of a sick pompador up like like

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to a point, like he's he's
still got I saw a picture of this

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man for the first time the other
week because I've never quite paid attention to

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what the rest of these looked like. And I can't believe that he still

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has that hair in the Year of
Our Lords twenty twenty four. I can't

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believe that that was not just like
a picture of someone from Alien and Farm

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in two thousand and two. There
was one year where he didn't where his

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hair is down and it looks normal. But now he's just spiking it back

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up again, because that's the look. You got, a look that iconic.

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You can't let it go, king, Yeah, No, absolutely like

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I'd be sad if he was up
on stage not with that hair. So

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I went to Hampden Park in Glasgow
to the big rock and roll spectacular of

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the summer, the Foo Fighters.
But here we are to her Foo Fighters,

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my first time seeing them. Obviously
a lifelong Food Fighters fan. Pretty

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much what you know, It's like
we were saying about Billy talent. They're

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a well oiled machine. They're so
tight, like they're just so in the

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pocket, and they have so many
not just like big songs, but certified

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hits that it they could just pull
out fucking the pretender for songs in and

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you're like, holy shit, I
will say three Fighters put on a big,

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blockbuster stadium rock show for all its
strengths and all its weaknesses. They

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spend so much time fucking around like
most songs they still do that. Yeah,

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most songs are extended by two minutes. And it's like, that's fine

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if you know you're making me wait
for the last chorus of Monkey Wrench,

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because I'll wait for that forever.
I love that song. But if you're

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making me wait for the last course
of the sky is a neighborhood, I'm

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checking my watch, I'm like,
what are you doing? Come on?

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you know, the interest round this piculary

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fighters toys that they are, you
know, supporting their their best record in

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you know, like what nearly fifteen
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did that show in the in the
show we got Rescued Me early on,

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and that really that is a great
like again, the crowd didn't respond to

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those songs as but I did that
Rescued Me fit in perfectly. I thought

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Dave did an acoustic just on his
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really nice, like I think that
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but hey, I'll take that chorus
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of I expected. You get like
three quarters through the set and they've not

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played that much of the new record, and then you just get lots of

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it. His daughter came out for
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but the song that she sings on
on the record, the first time they

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did that since Glastonbury. That was
really nice. They for an encore so

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like they played I think it was
best of you last I can't remember,

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and then waited a really long time, like a weirdly long amount of time

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for an encore you're usually used to
like a minute or two. They weighted

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ages slowly, sort of came back
on stage with no fanfare and did the

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Teacher in Fool and that was amazing, Like you know, obviously a big

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ten minute long song and it worked
so well and the sort of like swell

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in the crescendo of it just hit
so hard and then you're doing that into

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ever long and that's how you end
the set perfect. Yeah, like no

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DoBeS. Well, that is what
we have all been up to. But

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as said, a lot of you
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This is interesting expose because none of
us were at Download Festival, like you

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know, from the podcast team in
general. So we's why we've not got

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a big review episode this year.
But it feels like so much has kind

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of come out of Download Festival this
year that there are some things worth sort

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of acknowledging. And this is a
bit like a again because none of us

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were there. This is more like
a sort of a study of the perception

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of a festival from the outside,
right, Like, numerically most people in

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the world are not at Download Festival, what is their perception of what like

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the how that weekend goes down just
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And you know, I think that
is interesting knowledge because we have had

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you know a lot of people have
come back from download and said, yeah,

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it wasn't as kind of you know, it's not exactly as it has

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been, you know, represented like
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the kind of the perception that's built
up around what happened this year again it

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feels like the kind of you know, the headline way of putting it is

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that you know, the most cursed
download festival certainly in a number of years,

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if not like ever. It's just
over the course of those few days,

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us here on the outside got more
kind of you know, bits of

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news fed to us of things just
going wrong and then going wrong and then

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going wrong. Then I can certainly
remember, Yeah, it felt like again

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like you know, the weather's one
thing. You you you're almost braced to

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hear like, oh, it's raining
it download, and then you kind of

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got dripped like, oh it's hailing
it download this year, that's a step

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beyond and then yeah, you know, shut up, but yeah it was

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you know, you're hearing like that, and then you're hearing stages are getting

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delayed and bands are having whole sets
pushed back and change, not bands not

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knowing when what stage they're playing,
when and where at various points alongside the

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Barklay situation and all other things that
you often five hundred people have like shot

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themselves to death from in you know, uncooked chicken or whatever it was.

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Yeah, so again rapid fire,
I suppose because we weren't there. We

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just had to talk about again the
perception from the outside things that seem to

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happen of note Download Festival. The
first one is you briefly mentioned they're the

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Barkleay thing, which we spoke about
last week, and we spoke about last

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week more the kind of the controversy
of it in terms of like where the

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people were for or against bands kind
of pulling out in those kind of circumstances

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whatever. I you know, we
very quickly got news obviously as dannl was

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happening, that Barclays had been pulled
as a sponsor from Download. Not just

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I didn't think it was feasible,
Like I thought, best case scenario,

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they'd like not bring Barklays on for
future years, right, because I just

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again, I don't know exactly what
goes on in terms of what the logistics

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are of sponsoring or a festival and
what kind of is involved, et cetera.

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But I thought, you know,
again, if the event is happening

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and you know, I don't know
money's being put into it or whatever,

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surely you can't pull a sponsor like
the day off. And I thought best

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cause scenario, like I said that
Barclays get dropped for future years, and

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there's kind of a statement that is
made there. But quite incredibly, they

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dropped Barclay's as a sponsor right there
and then, and like Dying Wish,

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who were the band who said who
hadn't exactly pulled out, but said we

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are going to pull out if Barclays
don't, you know, are aren't dropped.

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Dian Whish played their set because they
got their wish, and I could

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just only really say, sterling work
everybody. I suppose like that is what

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people wanted to see happen, and
it happened. It worked. Yeah,

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it's a kind of like real testament
to what collective action can do. I

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think I saw a lot of people
trying to you know, like be like

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and Chkari did it because they are
all the big bands about a statement of

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it, and I was like,
well, no, they This is where

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like a broad approach of like a
broad selection of approaches ideas are effective for

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getting changed to happen. The band's
boycotting brought attention to it. The sort

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of organization bands boycott Barkley's helped,
you know, drum up pressure. The

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big bands who were then on the
festival lineup are then sort of saying like

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speaking to I'm sure the promoters,
the organizers and sort of saying, do

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that all of these sort of of
approaches have since you come together and got

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the results were after and like again, collective action it works. We can

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bully corporations. Yeah. But the
only thing I suppose you can go from

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there is again absolutely sterling work everybody. I didn't expect it to happen quite

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so swiftly and you know, kind
of definitively as it did. So genuinely

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brilliant stuff there. But immediately,
as said, the festival was struck by

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all manner of things, I guess, you know, going into the festival

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before the whole Barcleay situation kind of
you know, escalated most of the talk

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about download was I suppose the comparatively
low key trio of headliners. People were

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saying, you know, it's a
they clearly haven't got a Metallica or an

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Iron Maiden or something of that kind
of blockbuster status. A quick assessment of

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I guess the performance the headliners in
terms of how they seem to go down.

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Queens of Stone Age I think were
the first one on, and I

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am going to assume that Josh Homy
was patient zero of the Yorkshire Pudding Shack

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or whatever it was, because got
some strange reports of basically you know,

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not being with it. And it
makes me feel bad because I've spent the

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last however long saying how incredible they
are live, and I don't know whether

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this is going to be some kind
of mastered on system of a down type

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syndrome or deaftones where you know,
you see so many shows of them absolutely

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fucking killing it, and then loads
of people see them at one big festival

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where it doesn't go their way,
and this kind of reputation bitles that they

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are that they're bad live even though
they didn't see all the shows in between

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where they crush it. It is
a shame. I just thought you know,

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this time last year when we were
seeing the Glastonbury footage of that kind

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of went sort of semi viral because
it was so fucking good. It's like,

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literally this time last year, the
Internet could not shut up at how

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amazing Queens and Sage were, And
I thought, if they just turn up

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and do that, then brilliant again. Apparently it wasn't so together. I

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just don't know, is it the
kind of is it the culture of download

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festival where they're just sort of like
seen as like a Redding band or something,

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even though to me in my mind
they're so clearly in tune with,

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you know, legitimate rock music.
I don't know. I have mates who

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when who are big Queens of the
Stone Age fans, and even they were

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like, nah, Queens were diabolical. Yeah, I've heard like, you

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know again not with it, and
I guess you know, the thing I

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always sid about Queens of stone Age
is that part of the wakes are so

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brilliant when they are incredible, is
that it is a genuine, like organic,

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real rock show, Like it's not
on track, it's not majorly choreographed,

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and when that produces result, it's
something that you cannot achieve by being

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that kind of level of you know, put together. It's that chemistry that

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puts it together. But I guess
occasionally you are going to get some things

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where it doesn't work that way,
and it is just a shame that has

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happened on what is in our particular
corner kind of the biggest stage. I

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mean, I do think there was
a case of it did feel like a

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chung of downoad had it, sort
of had it out for them to begin

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with, because I've seen like bands
put on bad shows, but you don't

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then get someone creating a whole fake
set list like of insults towards them,

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Like I don't know, like it
maybe they probably weren't bad, but it

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felt it felt like a kind of
combination of down the cultural thing you said

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where they're an enemy reading whatever band
combined with an off performance meant everyone had

408
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,680
it out for them. Yeah,
I mean I look at the Settlers that

409
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,559
they played on em and that,
again without the context of having seen whatever's

410
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:41,200
going on, looks absolutely incredible.
Like yeah, opening run is wicked,

411
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,920
Like I mean the closing run,
I mean, how are you gonna argue

412
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,119
with millionaire into no one knows into
a song for the Dead to end your

413
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,440
like big rock thing. But again, for whatever reason, kind of the

414
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:57,359
performance like wasn't there. Like I
said, you don't see all the shows

415
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,200
in between, you know, the
ninety nine hundred shows where they're like the

416
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,960
best arena rock band on earth.
But it's a shame that the one that

417
00:29:03,079 --> 00:29:08,000
fucked up was there. Otherwise,
even Sevenfold, you know, suffers from

418
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,559
some tech issues for what we're going
to kind of get into, but otherwise

419
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:15,279
seem to go down just kind of
fine. Fall Up Boy, I guess

420
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,519
kind of had the most sort of
like Ferraw around them as a headliner,

421
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,680
but for a setlist which started off
amazing and then just got worse and worse

422
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,160
as it went on because of their
choice to do it in order. I

423
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,960
was in that sense like even though
I'm not the biggest time of early fall

424
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:30,960
Up Boy, but be like you
know what, the first two thirds of

425
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,440
that will say, give or take, I'm be a great time and then

426
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,119
you kind of go God, it
really does just go off a cliff until

427
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,680
the last song then where they where
they put out and a roller on towards

428
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,759
the end. It is h Yeah, like I get why people were probably

429
00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:47,279
caught up in the moment on that
one, and they probably were the best

430
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,039
received head on it. But I
would have just once you clocked what they

431
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:52,640
were doing, I would have left. I would I would have left after

432
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,920
the folly of deuceduff finished. I
was like, there's nothing for me here.

433
00:29:56,279 --> 00:30:00,359
Yeah, And speaking about Queen's not
being perceived for the download band whatever,

434
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,920
when you concentrate your like literal pop
material in a long run like that

435
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,960
pushes it. God, that would
have been so grim. So again,

436
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,960
the outside perspective obviously weren't there.
We can't be official in our reporting in

437
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,640
this regard, but it seems like
the headliners varied from kind of like apparently

438
00:30:19,759 --> 00:30:23,599
off to like, you know,
just fine, kind of competent did it?

439
00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:26,880
And I hope that all three of
those bands you know, do kind

440
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,319
of get continue to be booked in
those sort of slotscause I think it's good

441
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:33,799
for the genre overall if those,
you know, bands of that size are

442
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,799
allowed to headline festivals. Sure,
obviously val will have no trouble and they'll

443
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:40,720
come back in that headline download in
like three years or something. But yeah,

444
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,000
that was what was going on in
terms of the higher up stuff on

445
00:30:44,039 --> 00:30:45,839
the bill. It's all the other
stuff that seems to have really kind of

446
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:52,799
fallen apart. So you mentioned the
weather sam where it was a muddy download

447
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,039
rather than a less muddy download.
That's not new. As you say,

448
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,720
I think, you know, everyone
remembers kind of even if you weren't there,

449
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:03,319
like I wasn't there, but everyone
remembers download twenty sixteen, the drownload

450
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,079
as it was called, and those
videos. Twenty nineteen when I went,

451
00:31:07,119 --> 00:31:10,839
did have quite a lot of you
know, rain and mud and so on.

452
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,759
Twenty fifteen when I went, it
pissed it down during slipnot and killed

453
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:17,519
the vibe of that set. Like
yeah, but this year it seemed like

454
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,160
they there was struggles to kind of
cope with the weather more than there sometimes

455
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:27,839
are, and it actually affected the
logistics of the festival again, reports of

456
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,920
kind of you know, it basically
being like you know, particularly if you're

457
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,759
like, for example, like a
wheelchair user or something. You know,

458
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,519
echoes of what we heard of Slamdunk
recently in terms of you know, impossibility

459
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:41,799
to get around. I guess the
most relevant thing in terms of what the

460
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:47,839
knock on effect host the festival was
a lot of sets got directly impacted by

461
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,079
it. Baby Metal had their set
like cut short by the intense you know,

462
00:31:53,559 --> 00:31:56,400
weather bleefing within. I think I
heard kind of got something like that,

463
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,400
although Bliefing with them also spent part
of their set fucking around with Remeshrangon

464
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,839
Nathan and Rob Beckett for some reason. I guess good for them, guess

465
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,319
look out for that one TV very
strong situation. But then particularly I think

466
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:14,880
the Sunday, the Avenge Day,
they then had to open the arena late

467
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,240
due to whatever they were doing to
kind of like, you know, deal

468
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:22,680
with the mudt situation and make the
arena kind of more usable. The knock

469
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
on effect is that a lot of
band sets on the main stage particularly got

470
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:31,599
kind of cut short. One in
particular attracted quite a lot of attention when

471
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:37,880
Code Orange who Again. I saw
Jamie Morgan posted a story to his Instagram

472
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,160
the morning of before they had played, and it said something like, hey,

473
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,480
download We're on at like twelve whatever
it might be, twelve, you

474
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,319
know, forty five, et cetera. We don't know, it keeps changing.

475
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:51,559
And I learned that and thought,
oh okay. And that was again

476
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:54,000
before this whole went down, so
clearly before they went into us. They

477
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,640
had been kind of bandied around,
didn't exactly know when they were playing.

478
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,839
Maybe again, who know how long
they thought their set was. When you

479
00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:07,160
know, again before that great closing
one of their set that you were talking

480
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,519
about seeing Sam, their sound got
cut off. It seems like all hell

481
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:15,240
kind of broke lift. Yeah,
I mean, I know they took a

482
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,359
few shots that Avenged for not wanting
to cut their set lists. Yeah,

483
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,319
cut their set short. I like
again Code Orange. They are a bound

484
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:25,000
who clearly hold themselves on very high
regard and care about their art. I

485
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,839
don't think Avenge necessarily the ones to
take the pelters on this. They are

486
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,599
the headliners. They could have maybe
agreed to budge a little bit, I

487
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,599
don't know, but they shouldn't feel
obliged to. I mean, the blame

488
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:43,079
should fall on poor organization planning on
downloads part for not being able to like

489
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:44,920
And again, I know there's any
so much you can do for the weather,

490
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,799
but it sounds like there was just
no preparation done at any point until

491
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,079
it was too late, and that's
why it all was delayed. So I

492
00:33:51,079 --> 00:33:53,640
think that's where the kind of blame
falls. But I understand codorin frustration.

493
00:33:53,759 --> 00:33:57,480
I don't know if they like in
the hit at the moment got caught up,

494
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,799
but it did kind of you know, explode out. Yeah, And

495
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:06,680
I I wish it hadn't happened in
terms of I think because particularly four Code

496
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,679
Orange, who are a band who
has we spoken about people have like really

497
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:15,119
intense opinions about I think too intense. I think if you love them,

498
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:21,679
then great thing though, like is
it felt like people's reactions to what Code

499
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,360
Orange did was entirely dependent on their
entrenched opinion it was either the coolest most

500
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,199
badasshit ever was like oh, there
are a bunch of divas, and like

501
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,079
no one would budge on what they
feel that it just depended on do you

502
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:34,679
like Code Orange or not? Yeah, And I think again I wish it

503
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:39,480
hadn't happened in terms of like a
band who I can totally understand their frustration.

504
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,800
I can totally understand again, particularly
maybe again it had come from the

505
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,440
top with a venge whatever. We
don't know, but like, yeah,

506
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,079
you would be fucking livid. But
I also I wish it hadn't happened in

507
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:55,480
terms of just for their sake,
on like that larger stage in front of

508
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:00,119
that many people, many of whom
may have, if not an entrenched opinion

509
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:02,840
of them, a kind of malleable
opinion of them, their opinion of them

510
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,760
will be forming in that moment watching
their set. They might not know Code

511
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,360
Orange are. I just wish it
hadn't fallen that way where they'd kind of

512
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:15,159
you know, embarrassed themselves. And
I'm not putting the blame on Code Orange

513
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,159
in that regard. I'm just saying
that I wish it hadn't blown up in

514
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:22,239
their face publicly the way it did. Yeah, I would agree with that.

515
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,159
And for a band who are usually
sow in control of everything, for

516
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,000
them to be in a situation where
they can't control something, it's not a

517
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,679
good look on them. No,
Parkway Drive was the secret set as it

518
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:37,840
turned out, which did look like
a kind of a you know, a

519
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,960
nice victory for the festival into if
you could get into the tent that was.

520
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,639
But then again, as we mentioned
reports of heavy food poisoning instances.

521
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:51,320
When we I think it was during
the festival, someone you know tweeted us

522
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,199
or something saying like, you know, now there's reports of you know,

523
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,920
food poison going around. This was
like after to talk about Queens of stone

524
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,599
Age after talk about rain et cetera. And it felt like, oh my

525
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:05,360
god, another one, like what
what now? It's when I saw on

526
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,119
the face down Facebook page then posting
a picture of chicken they bought and the

527
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:12,679
chatty bought and the chicken was pink
that it was like photo of the chicken

528
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,079
upset me deeply. I kept thinking
about it over the course. Again it

529
00:36:16,119 --> 00:36:20,960
was one of those I'm like,
I'm so fucking glad I'm vegetarian, and

530
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,760
I like, I do not go
near me anymore because god, damn,

531
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,639
Like that just made that made my
skin crawl. Yeah, it was one

532
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,400
of those like, yeah, of
course, of course this has happened.

533
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Sure, why not like Curst Year? Why not? Yeah? Exactly,

534
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:40,960
more like browned load. If you
are one of the five hundred or so

535
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,920
people affected, I'm sorry, We're
not laughing at your pain, maybe a

536
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,480
little bit, but we do hope
for the better now. Yeah, it

537
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,199
just it seemed like again, just
like another cruel, cosmic joke in a

538
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,360
kind of long line of them.
As said, those are just the negative

539
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:00,480
headlines stemming out of the event being
you know, reaching people who are not

540
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:04,960
there. So I do acknowledge that
that's not necessary like those are, particularly

541
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,960
the poop food pointing thing. Obviously, those are things that should not happen

542
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920
at first of us like this,
and it does paint a negative picture,

543
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,400
but I also acknowledge that's not the
whole picture. And you know, a

544
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,440
lot of successes seem to go down
at download as well. I just again,

545
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,280
I hope that this time next year, even if again we're not there,

546
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,159
I just hope that the reports are
a little bit nicer, a little

547
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:28,480
bit more positive, because it just
seemed like a real like again, a

548
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:32,840
kind of the gods played a joke
on download this and it's a it's unfortunate

549
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,480
when they do that. But as
said the Barklay situation, that is a

550
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,400
great turnout and a you know,
one great success come out of it.

551
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:45,559
At least. Otherwise, news this
week is pretty light. We're gonna skim

552
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:49,239
through the rest of it. New
music, I know there is a new

553
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,159
ghost song. We're gonna leave that
until, you know, with at least

554
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:54,760
me and you Sam are seeing the
movie this weekend. As we'll discuss that

555
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,280
a little bit when we come back
next week. And you know, that's

556
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,800
that's part of that which leaves us, But the only song of fucking note

557
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:07,880
would be released this week is the
return of my couple co romance's greatest imitators,

558
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,159
Kids in Glass Houses have come back
with their first song since those dark,

559
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,480
dark days when they were an active
band, Diamond the Diamond Days.

560
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,880
I can't even bring that song to
mine right now. I am sack with.

561
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,880
I am sack with two people who
this kind of is relevant for.

562
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,199
So you know, in brief,
are you excited about the new Kids and

563
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Glasshouses music? I mean, I'm
surprised you don't like this song parent.

564
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,920
It's basically a kylie Ve Jebson song. I did hear the again. I

565
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,239
heard the eighties of it. I
got really excited because I watched the music

566
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,920
video and it's kind of got this
like stick of being like a seventies late

567
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000
night TV show or something. And
the opening theme with the trumpet, I

568
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,559
was, oh, cool, that's
a cool way to start the song,

569
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:53,519
and I just realized it's just the
music video and the rest of it was

570
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:57,719
just it's just kind of you know, it's yeah, it's it's like an

571
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,840
eighties neon pop thing, which I'm
not technically adverse to. But I did

572
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,039
think it was just kind of a
beige, boring example of that. You're

573
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:08,519
just saying that because it's Kids in
Glass Houses and you can't let go of

574
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:13,599
your own hatred. The worst song
I've ever heard, it's just kind of

575
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:17,599
an unexceptional one. I'll take it. The thing is is Kids of Us

576
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:21,559
Houses have always had that eighties influence. Even when you go back to Smart

577
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:23,920
Casual, you know, anyone's saying
it's a copy of the ninety seventy five,

578
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,760
they were doing it before the nineteen
seventy five, shut up. Yeah.

579
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,719
But I have also then seen people
say that the nineteen seventy five like

580
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,400
took their inspiracher from Kids of Glass
Houses, and that seems absolutely fucking comical

581
00:39:36,519 --> 00:39:38,079
to me. As a concept,
Kids of Us Houses were, you know,

582
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:42,559
on a rapid ascent at one point
in time. I don't think seventy

583
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:44,440
five are like, Yeah, those
Kids of Glass Houses, they've got a

584
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,719
good thing going on. It's not
the same series, but you know,

585
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,519
this is just kind of a more
symphy version of what Kids of Us House

586
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:55,320
has always done. I really like
it. It's got a nice chorus.

587
00:39:55,519 --> 00:40:00,480
I'm excited for this album. Yeah, it's like it's got one foot in

588
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:07,719
nostalgia in that it's doing the thing
kids in Glasshouses did from the start of

589
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,599
their career, which is sort of
a day Louis eighties influenced pop rock song,

590
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,480
but the production is bigger, the
songwriting is more mature. It feels

591
00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:21,320
like, well, it feels like
what it is, which is the kids

592
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,960
who wrote Smart Casual grown up into
adults. And I think I think it's

593
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,280
a catchy tune as well. I
mean, like again like not to be

594
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,880
like Downe with the face, but
I think it's the best thing that any

595
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:37,760
of like the sort of ilk of
twenty tens britrock bands have done in a

596
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:45,159
long time. It's like the k
Erasia I liked. I would still probably

597
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:49,880
take this over most of truth.
And that was the comeback of the decade.

598
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,239
Oh my god, it was.
It was the come back of the

599
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,840
decade in the way I can't escape
from it, like and this is this

600
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,480
is, you know, maybe a
bigger comeback. We like, we may

601
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,480
be losing you me at six next
year, but we're regaining kidding us hours

602
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,960
on fine form, so I'll take
the trade. Yeah, we just need

603
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:13,239
to wait until the Blackout restart.
The party that's when we know who the

604
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,639
dadis are. Yeah, I thought
it was a bit boring and you know,

605
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,760
generally not much to do with what
we kind of do here, but

606
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,360
I guess that that's out in the
world. June Rats have also announced that

607
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,320
they have got a new album which
is going to be out on August the

608
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,800
ninth. It's called If It Sucks
Turn It Up. So if you're listening

609
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,920
to the new Kids and Glasshouses tune, you know what to do. Quite

610
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,119
exciting. Health have announced a UK
and Ireland headline tour. Health that feel

611
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:45,119
like it's been around in the UK
live like a lot in the last couple

612
00:41:45,159 --> 00:41:49,840
of years. I mean I saw
them not too long ago, but a

613
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,239
lot of those have been like support
spots or festivals and things. So I'm

614
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,519
sure that again, if you are
one of the people who like, really

615
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:58,360
like super went hard on the Rat
Wars album, as we were speaking recently

616
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,639
a lot of people did, then
I'm sure that a headline tour is exciting

617
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:05,760
for you. And they have got
a ghost not you know, the big

618
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,880
one, the synth Wave one and
eternal support band Zetra, which you could

619
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,639
have like predicted them My are on
there, which is a very you know

620
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:22,679
synthy Bill, isn't it that's happening
in October? And finally we are arrive

621
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:28,000
at our sort of semi regularly scheduled
programming. Sam has to explain to me

622
00:42:28,159 --> 00:42:32,679
what's going on in terms of wrestling
beef because this is the only contest I

623
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:37,760
have for this is the insane clown
Posse tweet. I don't know anything else

624
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:44,440
about it. Why are insane clown
Posse absolutely livid at Cmpunk? And why

625
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,280
does the sentence I shared my bank
account with my mum before she passed,

626
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,159
you little insensitive bitch, has have
to do with CM Punk. I'll be

627
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:58,159
honest, we have not got time
for me to explain. This is like

628
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:05,840
years and knew of drama in the
wrestling That is just like essentially seeing Punk's

629
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:12,360
former friend Cockbanna, who they had
a falling out seeing Punk paid for his

630
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,360
legal fees when they were suing WWE, and then but Alvios found that he

631
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,559
seeing Punk had a cochormana had bankcount
his mum or something that so he could

632
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:22,400
have paid it himself, and so
Punk I was scammed. Punk had a

633
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:27,239
meltdown at a wrestling show, got
himself fired and just like, honestly this

634
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,639
is like, oh wait, so
I'm it does this not directly involved in

635
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:35,920
saying clown possy, but it's insane
clown possy taking offense to something that Punk

636
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,840
had suggested about someone else. Yes, I also think I think that they

637
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,800
they but like I said that you
want to shake our hands in TNA,

638
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,280
little Bitch means that he's disrespected them
in the past and they've now just decided,

639
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:51,719
like all this anger at CM Punk
over the years has built up less

640
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,599
let it all out, just wild
beef. I have no I like I

641
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,199
was reading this going like, oh, this is incredible, this is the

642
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,000
most bizarre whatever. I love it
so but the picture you painted here is

643
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:07,599
that this is like violent Jay basically
sat on his like sofa watching whatever wrestling

644
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:12,800
show. This is being absolutely incensed, picking up his phone going straight to

645
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:17,360
the main insane calm'possy Twitter account.
I think he watched the WWE show Class

646
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,320
at the Castle and watched the Impunk
screw over the Nation of Scotland and then

647
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,199
we haven't got time to go to
wrestling. Law, I won't do it.

648
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:32,639
Yeah, he's our champion. Yeah
we do with all that. Yeah,

649
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,760
Okay, there you go. Let
us let us sorry quickly inform you

650
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,719
about what we have put over on
the TNN Patreon this week, and boy

651
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,360
have we got stuff waiting for you
over there, because we a few days

652
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:53,480
ago, as promised, we recorded
the whole second kind of part of the

653
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:00,199
Sepultura full you know, Cavalier Years
special that we were doing. We a

654
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,199
few weeks ago did all of their
kind of you know, their origins,

655
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,599
their Thrash years, all the way
up to the Arise record. I thought,

656
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:09,239
in terms of again the you know, the amount of albums that they

657
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,920
produced in those particular years, I
was like, cool, we've done the

658
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,840
first four Roots and Kosad and that
they're kind of big albums with big stories,

659
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,840
and then we'll have the kind of
fallout of it. We'll put those

660
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,800
in a in a second part.
We had a recording session and there would

661
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,880
turned out to be so much law, particularly around the Pruts album. My

662
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:31,840
God, that it went so big
and so like you know, drilling layer

663
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,840
upon layer upon layer of that.
So we've ended up chopping that into smaller

664
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:42,039
parts, as people kind of suggested, is the more digestible way of kind

665
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,280
of approaching it, So right,
now as we speak on the TNN Patreon

666
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,079
you can find the what has formed
into the second part, which is a

667
00:45:50,199 --> 00:45:54,400
couple of hours on the Kosa D
album and also the Mats Cavalierra industrial side

668
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,440
projects supergroup in those years. Nail
Bomb, that album I thought was really

669
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,840
particularly kind of cool and fresh to
talk about because I feel like people know

670
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,920
about nail Bomb, but might it
doesn't always get you know, heavy discussion,

671
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:12,400
really fucking cool. Kosa D obviously
no slouch either, but also you

672
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,320
know, by the time that we
come here, you know, next week

673
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,679
for another one of these, I
will also have put up the second part

674
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,519
of that particular conversation, which does
have the most like again epic uh,

675
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,280
you know, drilling into layer up
on layer, As I said, chat

676
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:34,599
around any album we have ever done
on these specials, maybe we'll ever do

677
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,559
in terms of like everything that goes
into the creation of an album like roots

678
00:46:38,559 --> 00:46:45,159
and the discussion around it that we've
ever had on these specials, so more

679
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:51,000
than ratitude, maybe a little like
for now make you know there there dumb

680
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:54,599
nu metal sellout album. There's a
fark load going on there, and I'm

681
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:58,400
like saying, yeah, longest the
things we've ever done on a single album.

682
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:00,599
It was, it was ends,
it was there was so much,

683
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:05,840
like, so many threads to pull
on Part one, Part two techically the

684
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:09,679
Kosad novel chat that that to me
is just like this music fucking rocks and

685
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,679
anyone who doesn't like this an idiot
like so good. But yeah, it

686
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,280
was. It was two parts for
this is thing in too, probably a

687
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,159
bit more digestible. Yes, So
as said, right now you can find

688
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:27,519
part two of Cept, a special
on Kosad and nail Bomb and you know

689
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,920
first Thing. Next week there will
also be part three featuring the you know,

690
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,400
the the end of that story,
the epilogue. Everything will also be

691
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:40,719
awaiting you, and then we'll figure
out what to do next over there.

692
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,039
So thank you very much to everybody
who goes and checks that out and you

693
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:49,760
know, gives us your support to
help us kind of stay afloat is massively

694
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,719
appreciated and take us home. Let
us talk about the releases on this Friday.

695
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,800
We start with I guess with what
has been a kind of fairly long.

696
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,199
It's been a good like six years
or so, I think the last

697
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:07,960
record the story so far back with
I Want to Disappear Elsewhere. We also

698
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,639
have Again, this is kind of
the upper levels of like you know,

699
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,119
kind of you know, just numbers
and that kind of thing of what we

700
00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:16,480
do these kind of in these release
round ups. Wage War have got their

701
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:20,599
new record, Stigma, and I
don't know, I just want to sort

702
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:22,719
of touch base on this because wage
War, I feel like, in the

703
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,760
last couple of years have kind of
become our like go to name drop example

704
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:35,199
of the kind of metalcore that we
like to avoid, I suppose, And

705
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,800
I don't know when it happened,
because like wage War, like I remember

706
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,840
like one of their albums coming out
in like twenty seventeen or eighteen or something

707
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:44,000
and feeling like, oh, yeah, this is like the kind of metal

708
00:48:44,039 --> 00:48:46,400
corp I don't like. And then
I looked away for I guess five years,

709
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,480
and they've suddenly got like five or
six albums and they're fucking massive.

710
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:54,079
When did that happen? I mean, they are just us that they are

711
00:48:54,119 --> 00:48:59,360
the sort of octane core US metalcore
whatever you again, Like they are like

712
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,559
the post Children for that alongside I
Prevail and it's just like, yeah,

713
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,239
you know, everything we did like
about the the choices the Ghost in Side

714
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,000
made it is in the vein of
what Wage War do. So yeah,

715
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,320
I'm just trying to pinpoint when it
like blew up, because I guess that's

716
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,800
what these bands do. They they
kind of you know, they appear and

717
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,519
then they just get inexplicably massive because
they're in that kind of sphere. But

718
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,280
I did just I feel like I
I glanced away and then suddenly Waged War

719
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,639
but like leaders of the Pack,
and which one of widge War, I

720
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:32,480
don't know, a Christian, I
can't remember. I feel like I feel

721
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:37,079
so out of the loop on like
that side of metal core that you saying,

722
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:42,079
Oh, Wage War are really big. I'm like, what They're just

723
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,480
kind of what the amity flaring America
in it like Middle America. Yeah,

724
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:51,239
anyway, But they have got album
out elsewhere. We've got the return of

725
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,519
Kitty with their first album in an
Affair all While, which I know that

726
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,760
you know, has been kind of
a story in certain parts. That record

727
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,199
is called fire band that we love
quite a lot. Alcest I've got their

728
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:07,480
new album out, leschan de la
Rore, the new album from the you

729
00:50:07,519 --> 00:50:10,239
know, kind of arguable inventors of
black Gays. I'm sure a lot of

730
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,000
you guys are going to be wanting
on checking that out. Even if you've

731
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,599
never heard al Sist before, you
should go and check it out. Speaking

732
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:20,599
of returns, earth Tone nine are
back with kind of the comeback album after

733
00:50:20,599 --> 00:50:22,519
their comeback album. I suppose it's
like they came back and then like waiting

734
00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:24,880
INNDO the ten years and then they
got another comeback album. But again,

735
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,480
you know, cult band of a
kind of certain era in the UK go

736
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:34,280
into more kind of ferocious realms of
kind of metal core and hardcore. There's

737
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,559
a band called Foreign Hands who's got
an album called What's Left Unsaid? Sam.

738
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,440
I know that you were kind of
spinning this earlier as this falling in

739
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,760
the realms of like you know,
the metal core that you do like per

740
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:49,199
se. Yeah, it's very mid
noughties throwback metal core, like not no

741
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,840
real kind of other gimmicks to it. It's just as straight down the line

742
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,719
as that sort of thing gets.
But I like that. I had fun

743
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,880
listening to it. If you're into
that, definitely give it a spin.

744
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:04,119
Sure. And there is also in
kind of much more again absolutely bruising,

745
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,119
you know, a bullheaded hardcore out
on Church Road Records as cal Sign with

746
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,960
Common Love, Common nausea. Mark, I'm gonna throw to a band.

747
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,000
You have some kind of history with
the Dangerous Summer. Have got a record

748
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:23,400
out today called Gravity and Mark again
you know some context here, Mark,

749
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:27,880
historically, do you still like this
band? I know that you were a

750
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,559
big fan of this band, and
then I feel like somewhere along the line

751
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:35,960
they sort of turned into a bit
of a punchline. Yeah, so early

752
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:42,159
twenty ten's big fan. They broke
up for a few years, came back

753
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:45,840
in twenty eighteen, and similarly just
pump out material, most of which isn't

754
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:52,679
great. So the first sort of
like year or two of that comeback,

755
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:57,039
I was well, and because it
was mostly they mostly had songs I enjoyed.

756
00:51:57,039 --> 00:52:01,519
And now the Dangerous Summer catalog is
murky and I don't know what half

757
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:05,280
of those songs are. Vast and
murky. Well, there's more of them

758
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,039
for you to check out today.
Then we flip over into the nasty underground

759
00:52:09,039 --> 00:52:14,039
spheres. We start with Sumac the
Healer. This is the band that features

760
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:17,480
you know, Aaron Turner formerly of
Iss, Brian Cook formerly of Russian Circles,

761
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,000
and I guess formerly of Botch Again. Now Boch played their last show

762
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:23,760
very recently, so they are once
again no longer a band, but much

763
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:29,639
more you know, kind of long
form, kind of exhausting, experimental fair

764
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,920
to properly melt your head with from
Sumac heavy metal. If you want some

765
00:52:36,039 --> 00:52:40,559
you know, proper like King Diamond
Ish heavy metal Portrait with the Host death

766
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:45,760
Metal are very good at this,
stay dependable, underground kind of ol school

767
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,159
death metal band Hyperdontcha. I've got
a record called Harvest of Malevolence heading over

768
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:54,519
to Norway the band called Saka with
Endo Fate, which includes a nocturnal colto

769
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:59,320
of dart Throne on vocals, but
they're much kind of proggier. They're a

770
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,519
bit more of close to Enslaved and
those kind of bands. There's also,

771
00:53:02,519 --> 00:53:05,400
if you want some kind of more
sort of straightforward black metal, there's a

772
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,400
bang called Cavane with the Formless Fires. Speaking about our sepulcher a special,

773
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,960
today is the day the Cavaliera Brothers
Cavallero Conspiracy, whatever that name they're currently

774
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,159
going by, have released their re
recorded version of the Schizophrenia album, which

775
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:22,320
again, having heard this now,
I do kind of feel, as we

776
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:27,840
kind of suggested on our special that
it's a bit less necessary than the morbivisions

777
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,519
and Best with Devastation one were.
But there is like an extra kind of

778
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:36,000
newer track on there as those versions
included, and that's nice to hear more

779
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:39,639
kind of you know, sepulcher ish
material from those guys. And on the

780
00:53:39,639 --> 00:53:45,039
EP front, Blackveld Brides, I've
got one called Bleeders, which I suppose

781
00:53:45,079 --> 00:53:49,079
you know, if you are going
along to the Creeper blackvel Brides Wembley,

782
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,800
you know co headliner, maybe you
want to get yourself acquainted with what Blackfire

783
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,639
Brides might be buying. So that's
an EP out now and that is us,

784
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,360
So thank you very much for listening. As said, the last couple

785
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,519
of hyperblasts have been like properly dominated
by We have been busy. We have

786
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:08,800
been skitting around to all sorts of
shows and events and business that does not

787
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,559
stop stop because Outbreak is coming up
and Zion will be there. However next

788
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:15,960
week, yeah yeah, however before
then, you know, this time,

789
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,639
as we arrive into next week's show, we of course have a review show

790
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:23,679
for you. And on the reviews
front, you know, the last time

791
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,800
we did one was like a couple
of days after bringing the Horizon a surprise

792
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,360
dropped an album and we didn't have
time to fit it in and all that.

793
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,599
And I know that it's like a
month after it's released now, but

794
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:36,760
we are going to actually talk about
what we think. Of course, we

795
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,480
are the new Bring Me the Horizon
album, the next gen post human release

796
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,800
elsewhere that Story So Far album that
just came out is in there. We've

797
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,519
got some really good, you know, underground nasty stuff, you know,

798
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,199
non T and M stuff. We've
got some like almost hip hop kind of

799
00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:54,440
in there. Yeah, we do. So this time next week we'll be

800
00:54:54,519 --> 00:55:00,400
back. We'll all of that and
we hope you join us for it kind

801
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,639
of what it is that you are
enjoying about those particular records. So we'll

802
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:07,280
see you there for that hope.
If anyone is listening, who you know

803
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:12,159
ate the Cursed food at download,
we hope you're recovering well and things you

804
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,519
are a little bit more swimmingly for
you in future. So there you go,

805
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:15,000
Bye bye,