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Welcome everybody. Here we go.
It is that time again, Matt Connerton

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Unleashed and we are live from the
studios of w m n H ninety five

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hello to all of our online listeners across

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info, show archives, etcetera,
etcetera. Today is a Thursday, August

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third, twenty twenty three. I
couldn't decide whether to say August three or

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August third, so it came out
August third. It's just so you know,

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that's the reason why I said it
that way. I don't want anyone

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to think I'm having a medical episode
or something anyway. So there you go.

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So we have a well quite a
show for you. I suppose I'm

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kind of keeping an eye on the
NBC news feed. The arrangement is I

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assume it's taking place now, is
supposed to happen at four o'clock Eastern,

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So we'll we'll talk about that today. Certainly, also coming up today at

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five pm Eastern Time at the top
of the hour. This is exciting Jerry

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and the Scumbags the world radio premiere
of their new single, Hipster Dipster,

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and it's it's really good. I'm
actually gonna plus this a little bit of

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extra audio before the song too.
This song is already available online, but

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today is the world radio premiere of
the song on FM radio. And I'm

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very very excited about that. Jerry
Robinson so talented, and of course he's

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got Eric Pincher on guitar and Billy
Painter on bass, and there's this guy,

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mattso Covington. I'm sorry no,
Billy Painter on drums, right,

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yes, mattso Covington on bass and
uh wow boy that guy, that mattso

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Covington, what a bass player.
Uh. That is coming up today at

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five pm Hipster Dipster and it's really
really good, very catchy. So I

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think I think you'll enjoy it tremendously. Everyone loves Jerry Robinson. My dad

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even loves Jerry Robinson, so he's
he's just great. Um So, the

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world radio premiere of the new track, Hipster Dipster coming up today at five

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pm. And very very excited.
We are not going to do going to

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do Easyg's Entertainment report today. Today
was supposed to be his big return for

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that, but he messaged me before
I even had a chance to say anything

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to him about it, and he
said, yeah, with kind of a

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big newsday, maybe we save the
report for another day. And I said,

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yeah, that sounds good, Eric, because it is a little bit

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of a big newsday, quite historic. A couple other things though, to

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tell you about quickly before we get
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of the month, which means that
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what will be speaking about this evening, so that will be immediately following this

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hour. So for those of you, if you get to the end of

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this show and you go, oh
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Matt Connerton, I just haven't had
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willing to share me with doctor Kevin, you can in fact have another hour

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Hey, that's tomorrow, so always
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Eastern. Oh, we look forward
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DJ Steve just soon in It's It's
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promise. Isaac Banks is in the
Facebook lave chat and says good afternoon.

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Hashtag Matt good afternoon. Robert Moore
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in the chat and says shalom,
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kinds of stuff. Now I have
a little bit of I have something interesting,

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interesting thing here, Isaac Banks.
I received. Now I'm not going

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to identify because I don't know how
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to identify the individual who sent me
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will just share this with you.
I received a Facebook message today that says

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this, you may want to ban
Isaac Banks and any of his we say

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logins from your live cast chat.
I just got a scam solicitation from him

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m and sent me a screenshot of
the solicitation. So I'm just telling you,

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hashtag Isaac I'm I'm aware of this. I'm not gonna ban you,

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not yet. I appreciate your interaction
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saw that screenshot and I said that
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all right? Six three two five, six seven is the number? Six

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seven, Isaac Banks says, hashtag
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mine. Let's check in quickly here
with the NBC news feed, and the

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evidence of that so far is that
those electors have been indicted by the state

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of Michigan. But look for the
defense to frame the false electors as alternate

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electors. You might hear people talking
about nineteen sixty in Hawaii where Kennedy's electors

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had a ceremonial type submission, but
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and the argument there would be that
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So therefore, um what he's talking
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the obviously is this thing with the
fake electors, setting up fake electors.

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Now, if I understand this correctly, and there's this is particularly interesting to

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me. I don't know who the
gentleman is who's talking again, that's the

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live feed from NBC News right now. You know, it's it's a pretty

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historic day. Obviously, we've never
seen anything quite like this. But the

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former Trump attorney who is now I
don't know if he officially works for MSNBC,

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but he's on there quite a bit. Let me see if I can

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find this quickly. So I was
in the car earlier. His name's Joe

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per Laconi or per lacon or something
pertacon He was talking about how he was

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explaining, essentially, he was defending
the fake elector scam, saying that it's

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actually there's no He was on with
Andrea Mitchell and he was saying, there's

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actually it will be very difficult for
the prosecution to prove that there's any problem

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with the fake electors because it's actually
normal to have all electors in case something

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happens to the primary electors or something
like that. It was it was an

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interesting I mean, I wasn't buying
it, but it was a very interesting

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argument that he was making. I'm
gonna try to find that quickly if I

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can, because I did think it
was intriguing. DJ Steves in the Facebook

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live chat and says, good afternoon
everyone. I can only imagine what Paul's

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got up his sleeve. Yes,
let's see. I'm gonna see if I

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can find this quickly by former Trump
attorney, because I did think this was

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interesting. The other thing that's particularly
fascinating to me that I want to look

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at today is Mike Pence, the
former Vice president, of course, might

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actually end up testifying. In fact, I think it's quite likely is going

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to end up testifying in this trial
against Trump. And that's first of all,

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obviously, well look, all of
this is unprecedented. But oh is

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he arriving at the court. I
see a lot of activity here. There's

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Democrats right, they go, they
sign certificates, send them off to Congress

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sendment of the archives to say this
is who our state has picked. These

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are where you know, let's stick
with us for a minute, because she's

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talking about the same thing I was
just talking about. Hinges on that there

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essentially that the wrong party right in
states that the Democrat Joe Biden wont the

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wrong party the Republicans tried to send
a fake they made fake certificates in many

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disinstances and send that off to say, no, look this is what we

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think. You know, this is
we want to complicate the issue. Why

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Ultimately the thinking seemed to be to
pressure then Vice President Mike pens to say,

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well, look, I don't know, I mean, we have an

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issue. Maybe mister jump interrupted is
a second our pony express type reporting from

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the courtroom tells us that the former
president is being sworn in right now,

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so that hearing is underway. We
should hear more here piecemeal, and we'll

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keep bringing to you. I do
want to ask at check Rosenberg the fact

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that the former president is still making
those claims. I believe as recently as

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today that the twenty twenty election was
fraudulent. Okay, Um, I'm having

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trouble finding the Yeah, I'm having
trouble finding exactly what I was just talking

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about with that former Trump's former lawyer. Um, I'll see if I can

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find it when we take our break
at the top of the hour. But

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Um, Effectively, he was saying
that there's there's nothing unusual about having alternate

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electors just in case and when Andrea
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well, okay, but they these
false electors. The reason they signed these

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certificates and did everything that they were
doing was they were trying to commit an

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act of fraud because there was a
larger plan here where the vice president Mike

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Pence, if he were to if
he had cave to the pressure that he

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was under by Trump, had he
caved to that pressure, he could have

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said, in theory, this is
how the theory goes. He could have

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said, Okay, I'm not accepting
these electors I'm going to accept these alternate

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electors instead. Now, the former
Trump attorney, I wish is it Joe

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Perlocone. I feel like it might
be Perlocone. I've seen a lot of

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the guy, and yet I am
struggling with his last name. Um.

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He said that, well you can't. He said, it's a very high

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bar for the prosecution to prove that
they were actually attempting any sort of fraud,

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because again, it's not unusual to
have he said that, or he

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said, there's nothing illegitimate about having
almost said having false electors, but obviously

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that's not what he would say.
There was. There's nothing illegitimate about having

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potential alternate electors. Um. The
problem is though, that's just it's that's

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a tough one to swallow, isn't
it? Um? Why else was this

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being coordinated? Uh? In all
of these uh? In all of these

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different states. Now, Jenny just
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YouTube feed from inside the courtroom.
They're reporting from inside the courtroom. Let's

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see, because NBC News just reported
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sworn in right now? Rick Smith
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Is it good for guys? I
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particularly interested in it, not because
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a conservative, so I'm not angry
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of conservatives. I think that the
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I guess because maybe Ken dolls are
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trans or something whatever, crazy stuff. Ben Shapiro says about it, but

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I've seen it. Scott Robinson says, good afternoon, my fellow Connor.

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Tonight's since today is Thursday, will
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I'll do it another day because obviously
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out this feed that Jenny sent me. Very likely some of those issues resolved

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in Judge Chukins courtroom, because she's
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already, right the first ruling there. Then they go to the appellate court

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in particular sort of a definition of
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of a proceeding. I think that's
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the defense is going to be arguing, as Asha said, a whole lot

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of different kinds of it seems to
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background too, but it seems to
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don't think they know anything different than
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Let's see if you're just joining us
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of an unconventional thing I'm doing here
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of got these different news feeds open
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eye on them only because obviously it's
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his third indictment in Washington, DC. So this is something that we've never

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seen before, but to kind of
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again if I can find more information
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perlcone. What he was saying,
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was interesting, but we also might
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Vice president Mike Pence testifying against his
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a lot in this indictment, right, and apparently he took contemporaneous notes on

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everything as he was being pressured to
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his constitutional duty on January six,
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president, but he's also Trump's political
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Let's see Isaac Banks says, mister
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directed to Jay fed Mister Jason Feederson. My brother Mike Banks is a rapper

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and he makes beats. My brother
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He just used the bathroom. Is
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not? They from R Dell five. Well, I hope he explained everything

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to you sufficiently there, Jay Fed
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family dynamics and his brother Mike Banks
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Jenny says, I have a reporter
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is under way. They are talking
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in the courtroom. Yeah, we
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think it's important to distinguish from the
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they're just they're just out together.
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News feed. Is an interesting argument, this idea that they're trying to interfere

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in the election, and yet all
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is Donald Trump go up in the
polls. At the judge's request. Just

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moments ago, Donald Trump offered his
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your honor, Donald J. Trump. John. He also gave his

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age in court seventy seven. The
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charges to the former president Donald Trump. Again, this is where it starts

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to come into focus, just the
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unfold. And John, you and
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how long the former president had been
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before it turns over to Judge TOMMYA. Chutkin in the future. But just

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the idea of the former president sitting
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confirm his name, confirm his age
seventy seven. That's also a very

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harsh reminder to the former president himself
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sit at that table for twenty minutes, David, He had to sit at

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that table for twenty minutes waiting for
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anything. He's always the biggest guy
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everybody's waiting until he gets there and
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for twenty minutes. And then,
of course the familiar call we hear every

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time we're in a courtroom and the
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Trump, like everybody else in that
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know, give deference to that judge. And remember, he's not free to

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leave. He is he's not in
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has to be there for this arrangement. The judge just advised the former president

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of the penalties he could face if
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up to five years in prison.
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Count three up to twenty years in
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years in prison. The former president, Donald Trump, according to our reporter

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in the room, was leaning forward
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judge as she went down the list
of each count and the potential time in

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prison that someone convicted of that count
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trump As rights in connection to this
case and asked if he understands those rights

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again, Pierre Thomas, this is
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weight of what it is we're reporting
on here today, David. There's always

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that pregnant moment in a courthouse when
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magistrate or judge when it charges are
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This feed is better because they seem
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now I think, what's NBC News
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you're not after me, they're after
you, Okay, talking about the fundraising.

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this is, as I've often talked
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himself into a place where this does
actually help him. He's in a no

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lose proposition. I mean, I'm
sure on some level it must be very

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frightening to be going through this,
and this is his third indictment, and

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you know, the consequences of this
could be pretty awful, clearly, right,

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But he continues to rise in the
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more legal trouble he gets into,
the more it piles on, the more

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it stacks up, the more money
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that he will be And I stand
by my prediction. Our own governor here

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in New Hampshire, Governor Chris Sinunu, he has said all along there is

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no way Trump will be the nominee
he is. He has said that.

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He says that over and over,
and you know he likes to I mean,

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he's he's on the news. He's
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Chris Christie m He's become a popular
figure. And you know, and he's

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not running for reelection here in New
Hampshire. He's become. I mean,

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he's popular figure here. He always
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reelection should he run again, but
he's not. He's moving on. But

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you know, it wouldn't surprise me
to see him as an analyst at on

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one of these cable news channels in
the future. But he always he's very

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critical of Trump, and not quite
as critical as Chris Christie, but he's

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pretty critical of him. And he
has said right along that there is no

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possibility of Trump actually being the nominee. He doesn't make so much a legal

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argument though, he kind of makes
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Look, he's you know, he's
a he's a loser. That's his term,

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not mine. He says, you
know, he lost the twenty twenty

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election. He lost, he lost
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He you know, he endorses candidates
and they lose, which isn't always

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the case. But you know,
he's a drag on the party, et

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cetera. So um, But I
but I think he's wrong. I think

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Governor Sanunu is absolutely wrong. I
think, uh, I don't. I

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don't know what kind of math he's
doing. And listen, I'm not good

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at math myself. But uh,
Trump's strength among Republicans is growing, not

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decreasing. Um, He's miles ahead
of his next closest rival, which is

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uh uh round sanctimonious and um,
and there's no chance to Santis is ever

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gonna catch up. I mean to
Santis is actually failing. And and everybody

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else in the field, well,
okay, I mean, obviously you've got

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a few people who are willing to
go directly at Trump, like Christ like

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Asa Hutchinson, not quite as much
but still of course a former Texas Congressman

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Will Hurd, you know, and
Mike Pence is kind of in a position

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where you know, he kind of
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right. But um, but then
you've got these other candidates in the field

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that are just so terrified to say
anything critical of Trump, including Ran de

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Santis, who continues to try to
play this game of on one hand,

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obviously he's Trump's political rival for the
nomination, but at the same time he's

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like, oh, this is all
just political prosecute. The most ridiculous thing

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was when somebody asked him about January
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campaign event, and he said,
well, Look, you know, I

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wasn't there, and the President probably
should have leaned in more, but you

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know, I wasn't there, so
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It's like, oh, my god, de Santis is just horrible, horrible

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candidate. I'm not even talking about
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candidate, he really is terrible.
It's no wonder that apparently a lot of

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donors are running away from him and
going to Tim Scott. But so you've

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got these candidates, though, the
ones who are not directly criticizing him,

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who are like walking on eggshells because
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the nominee and they want to be
his veep, or because they think that

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Trump is going to go down and
they want to be there to pick up

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the pieces by not alienate, not
alienating any of his supporters, by continuing

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to defend Trump. So you've got
you've got you know all this. I

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mean, Trump is firmly in control
of this entire process. Rono Favarro joins

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us in the Facebook litchat and says
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released under the conditions he can't break
any more. Laws federal or state,

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must be in court for everything.
He's not to talk to anyone about the

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case who is a witness. Yeah, let's seeing that are watching this a

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real time. That the prosecution and
the defense have agreed on several conditions.

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One, Donald Trump must not violate
any other federal or state laws. Two,

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Donald Trump must appear in court as
required. Obviously will be yet to

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see a calendar on this case.
David Trump must sign an appearance for bond.

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And as one of the prosecutors put
it, he must not quote,

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communicate about the facts of the case
with anyone Trump knows to be a witness

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except through counsel or in presence of
counsel and David. That one is duplicative

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to the other case that was brought
by Special Counsel Jack Smith, the Document

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Retention case. Witnesses that are involved
in that case cannot talk about the case

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with Trump. We see here in
this case now on the efforts to overturn

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the twenty twenty election, same thing. Donald Trump cannot talk to any other

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witnesses that are known to him and
his lawyers. And that is obviously,

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as we talked about David several weeks
ago. Here with you. That's going

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to be a problem for Donald Trump, because the one thing we all know

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Donald Trump likes to do is talk
about his current situation. He talks about

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these cases, talks about what could
be next. How is this playing for

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me? It's a phrase we have
heard many, many times over the years

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from Donald Trump, that one in
particular, David, that is going to

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be a problem for Donald Trump.
But if he wants to avoid any further

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issues, he's gonna have to stick
to it. So as a foreign example,

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Dan abrahams, if Donald Trump wanted
to talk to Mark Meadows, let's

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say he can only do it through
counsel, or in the presence of counsel,

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can't pick up the phone call Mark
Meadows to talk about anything related to

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the case. That is not surprising, right, not surprising. But remember

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that you still have to get caught, right, I mean, you know,

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I mean I hate to yeah,
as if it so cavalier, because

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it's not. But you know,
these are the sorts of orders that happen

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that as long as someone doesn't report
it, as long as he doesn't say

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it in public, as long as
the witness is still on the same page

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with Donald Trump, no one's really
going to know about it. But with

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that said, when it comes to
some of the witnesses who are not currently

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you know, at Mara Lago all
the time, people who he's not regularly

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talking with, it's a clear statement
from the court you better not engage in

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any witness tampering, and even more
than that, you just better not talk

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to them about it at all.
I mean think about it. In a

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trial, very often witnesses aren't even
allowed to sit in the courtroom when other

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people are testifying because they don't want
it to impact their testimony. Right,

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So, witnesses are often asked to
leave the courtroom or not allowed to watch

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the proceedings because they don't want the
proceedings to influence their possible testimony. You

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have a similar issue here, which
is decide even witness tampering. You just

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don't want witnesses improperly influenced based on
conversations about the case. We're just hearing

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Dan. That a hearing before Judge
Tanya Chutkin, who is the judge who

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will take over the case from here. The Obama appointed judge who has overseen

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a number of January six cases,
had handed out a number of stiff sentences

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to people involved. The January sixth, she will preside over the trial.

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The hearing is scheduled for August twenty
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of this month, the latest of
three dates offered as options. So again

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the magistrate overseeing today's hearing, the
latest date of the three dates offered as

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options from prosecutors was selected. Prosecutors
had wanted the hearing to be earlier,

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but again the next date key date
omnis calendar August twenty eighth, five days

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after the Republican debate in Milwaukee,
the first Republican Debate, which again we

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don't know if Donald Trump is going
to decide to show. Yeah, I

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wouldn't. I wouldn't expect he would
be at this particular hearing. Um,

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you know this is this is going
to be a first motions hearing etcetera,

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to set schedules, etcetera. So
you know, I don't I don't expect

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that Donald Trump would be at this
particular Well we hear that here at that

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hearing when the proposed trial date would
be. Yeah, they may have discussions

415
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,960
about it, but any proposed trial
date in a case like this I think

416
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:29,039
is fake at this point it's a
target date, it's a hope, it's

417
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:32,119
a wish, and it's going to
totally depend Okay, so uh yeah,

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so that's newsworthy. So that's when
the next hearing will be August twenty eighth.

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So um, but as Dan Abrams
was saying on the ABC News feed

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that you know, things get things
get pushed back. Um, Mark Meadows

421
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:52,480
was mentioned. Now, Mark Meadows, of course, was the White House

422
00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:58,599
Chief of staff at the time the
Jan six happened. And Mark Meadows we

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00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,079
haven't heard much from. But Chris
Christie had speculated that Mark Meadows might be

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a cooperating witness and that's why we're
not hearing much from him publicly. Radar

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00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Online has an exclusive. It says
Mark Meadows flipped on Trump one time White

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00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,160
House chief of staff, turned against
xboss prior to explosive Jan six indictment,

427
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:23,640
provided Feds with evidence. Let's see. Now, there's been a lot of

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00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,440
speculation about this, but Radar Online
seems to think they have the scoop here.

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Let's look at this. Mark Meadows, the final White House chief of

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00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,480
staff under Donald Trump, agreed to
testify against his one time boss in a

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00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,359
secret deal with federal prosecutors. Radar
online dot Com has been told in a

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00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,519
blockbuster exclusive, we can reveal that
Meadows was a key witness in the federal

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00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:51,440
grand jury convened by Special Counsel Jack
Smith, whose office handed down a historic

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four account indictment earlier this week.
Trump will make his first court appearance to

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00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,839
defend himself in the explosive charges on
Thursday. That's today, of course.

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00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:05,720
A source connected to the case told
Radar online dot com quote, the fact

437
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:10,400
Meadows is not being discussed as a
co conspirator is telling in itself. That

438
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,880
is all but proof that Meadows took
some sort of deal with Smith to either

439
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:22,079
testify under the protection of immunity or
that he acted as a cooperating witness unquote.

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00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:27,639
The case insider added, quote,
when a witness is called to testify

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00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400
before a grand jury, the individual
can refuse to testify on the ground that

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00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:37,679
his testimony will incriminate him. But
it's almost impossible to think Meadows might invoke

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00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,159
his Fifth Amendment right. Therefore,
Smith had three options, challenge the privilege

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00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,480
and call Meadows, waive his appearance, or consider a grant of immunity.

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00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,159
The most plausible option here, given
what we know, that Meadows did not.

446
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,239
That Meadows did indeed testify is option
three. That is, Meadows flipped

447
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,239
and turned against Trump unquote. The
source added, Meadows did not hatch a

448
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:08,199
plea agreement with prosecutors and had been
previously as had been previously claimed. In

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00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:15,360
June, an attorney for Meadows vigorously
denied a report from the Independent that Meadows

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00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:22,800
had entered guilty please to quote unspecified
federal crimes unquote, calling it complete bs.

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00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:27,239
The Radar Online source said, quote
Meadows did not plead guilty never.

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00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:31,440
It is a misnomer to think he
needed to plead to something in order to

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00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:36,480
get some form of immunity unquote.
By the way, that's a misuse of

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00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:43,119
the term. Misnomer's pointing that out. I'm nitpicky about these things. Let's

455
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:46,440
see, becoming a witness against the
former president is a stunning betrayal quote unquote

456
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,440
from the man who Trump handpicked to
replace Mick Mulvaney as chief of staff.

457
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,079
In March twenty twenty, a Trump
insider told Radar Online. The source said,

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00:35:57,119 --> 00:36:00,800
quote Marcus considered a rat amongst team. Try to Trump Mark Meadows is

459
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,199
like what Sammy the Bull Gravano was
to John Gotti. Trump believes Mark is

460
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:12,400
a turncoat. He feels betrayed unque. The New York Times first reported that

461
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,000
Meadows, a former North Carolina congressman, testified before the grand jury. The

462
00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:23,079
outlet described him as quote a potentially
key witness. The Times reported at the

463
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,320
beginning of June. Quote For months, people in mister Trump's orbit orbit have

464
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:35,280
been puzzled by and wary about the
low profile kept by mister Meadows in the

465
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,920
investigations. As reports surface of one
witness after another going into the grand jury

466
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,079
or to be interviewed by federal investigators. Mister Meadows has kept largely out of

467
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:51,840
sight, and some of mister Trump's
advisors believe he could be a significant witness

468
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,039
in the inquiries. Mister Trump himself
has at times asked aids questions about how

469
00:36:58,159 --> 00:37:04,880
mister Meadows is doing unquote. The
newspaper added, citing a person familiar with

470
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:09,400
the remarks. Trump was officially indicted
on felony charges. Okay, we know

471
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:17,480
all that, So there you go. So we'll see. I have a

472
00:37:17,559 --> 00:37:22,039
feeling we're going to find out.
I have a feeling we're going to find

473
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:30,400
out soon, Jenny says in the
chat. The first Goop debate is August

474
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,880
twenty three. By the way,
I didn't realize they were talking about that.

475
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,760
I didn't realize it was in Milwaukee. I thought that I just I

476
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,960
guess I just assumed the first debate
would be in Iowa, since that's where

477
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,840
the first primaria is. Obviously.
Now Politico dot com we'll go to this

478
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,000
too, because we were talking about
Mike Pence. Politico has a this just

479
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,400
went up. Trump's indictment for jan
six turns Mike Pence into a litmus test.

480
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,400
The former vice president stood biased criticism
of Trump yesterday and called his former

481
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:08,000
boss former boss's one time lawyers crackpots. Now that's kind of been That's not

482
00:38:08,199 --> 00:38:14,119
unusual, though, as somebody on
the NBC newsfeed was saying earlier that,

483
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,639
oh wow, Pence is really getting
salty. We don't usually hear that kind

484
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:22,760
of language from him. M Yeah, I mean, he's gradually. It's

485
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,360
it's been so interesting to watch Mike
Pence because he very sort of gradually wades

486
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,400
into that water of being critical of
Trump. But but again, you know,

487
00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:35,360
he doesn't want to upset He doesn't
want to upset Maga, so he

488
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:43,360
tries to he does this thing where
and he's really still doing it where he

489
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:47,039
blames it on the lawyers. You
know, So whenever somebody says to Mike

490
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:51,880
Pence in an interview, well,
you know, do you blame Trump for

491
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,679
for all of this? You blame
Trump for, you know, spreading these

492
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,840
election lies in January six and everything. And Pence's standard answer is some variation

493
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,679
of well, I don't think it's
I don't think it's illegal to get to

494
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,440
be given bad legal advice. So
he blames the lawyers. Now, there

495
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:15,800
is a principle in law, and
I forget what the actual name is for

496
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,719
this principle. It's probably Latin.
I do know that there is a principle

497
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:27,320
in law that, yes, you
can argue that you were given bad advice

498
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:32,119
by your attorneys and try to use
that as a justification or a way to

499
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:37,039
get out of trouble for what you've
done that has been done. Well,

500
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:42,559
I was given bad legal advice.
If i'd been if I had had competent

501
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:50,079
legal representation, I wouldn't have done
what I did. It's probably pretty flimsy,

502
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,679
and I don't think that defense would
work here, right, But but

503
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,519
that seems to me that's how Pence
sort of, you know, plays that

504
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,400
game of well, you know,
I don't like what happened on January six,

505
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,639
you know, and I had to
stand my ground and fulfill my constitutional

506
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,639
duty. And again, good for
him, that's good. But but then

507
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,639
he's, you know, he wants
to blame anybody but Trump. He doesn't

508
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,880
want to blame Trump directly because he
doesn't want Maga upset with him. So

509
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,119
he's like, oh, you know, he got bad legal advice. They

510
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:21,239
were his lawyers were crackpots, which
is true. I mean, you look

511
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,519
at this crew, right, Rudy
Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman,

512
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:30,679
Jenna Ellis. Yeah, they do
seem like crackpots. That's one way of

513
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:37,639
putting it. I suppose they do
all see him a little nuts. But

514
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:43,559
let's look at this and then then
at the top of the hour, we

515
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:46,920
have the world radio premiere of the
new Jerry and the Scumbags song Hipster Dipster.

516
00:40:47,039 --> 00:40:50,920
Really looking forward to that. But
let's look at this again. This

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00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,440
is from Politico. For much of
the first fifty four days of his presidential

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00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:59,280
campaign, Mike Pence has been relegated
to the contests lower tier, fighting for

519
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,400
scraps in single digit polls. At
a crowded table featuring Donald Trump and Ronda

520
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,079
Santis on Day fifty five, the
former vice president took the main stage.

521
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,840
The indictment of Trump by Special counsel
Jack Smith for his efforts to undermine the

522
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,840
twenty twenty election placed a sharper focus
on Pence's actions leading up to and on

523
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:22,360
jan six, including the revelation that
he kept contemporaneous notes. It also elevated

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00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,280
the idea that Pence himself would be
a litmus test for the rest of the

525
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:30,280
field. Would they have made a
different decision that day. Speaking of reporters

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00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,960
on Wednesday yesterday, Pence showed no
regrets or equivocations. In the hours after

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00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:40,440
Smith unveiled his indictment, Pence said
this quote, with regard to the substance

528
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,199
of the indictment, I've been very
clear. I had hoped it wouldn't come

529
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,880
to that. I had hoped that
this issue and the judgment of the President's

530
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,119
actions that day would be left to
the American people. But now it's been

531
00:41:54,199 --> 00:42:00,800
brought in a criminal indictment. Quote, So he's still gonna you know,

532
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,559
he's he's you know, it's it
just amazes me. I mean, if

533
00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:07,599
you're a regular listener, you've already
heard my Mike Pence rants. You know,

534
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,320
he he'll he does this. I
mean, I'm sorry, I just

535
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:16,440
I find it sad. He'll do
this thing where, you know, in

536
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,480
one breath he'll acknowledge that the actions
and the words of Trump on that day

537
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:27,679
directly put him and his family,
his family, his wife and his daughter's

538
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,519
in danger, put them in danger. And then but it's like, yeah,

539
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:34,119
you know, he put us in
danger and this is so terrible.

540
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,199
Ah, but hey, who could
be mad at the guy? Really?

541
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,239
Right? Oh? I just love
him so much, you know, it's

542
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,800
really remarkable. Yeah, you know, he could have he could have gotten

543
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,599
my family and I killed by those
riders that day, you know, when

544
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:52,559
the they had already begun to overrun
the Capitol, and he's tweeting out,

545
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,719
you know, Mike Pence didn't have
the courage to do the right thing as

546
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,840
they're chanting, hang Mike Pence.
Yeah, pretty reckless and dangerous and h

547
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,880
you know, my my wife and
my daughters were with me and they could

548
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,920
have been harmed, and that's all. That's all pretty terrible. Ah.

549
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:13,719
But but come on, I mean, it's President Trump. He's so awesome.

550
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,480
I just I can't hold a grudge. Sometimes I wish I could just

551
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:21,960
go up to him and just squeezes, squeeze his big orange cheeks and just

552
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,280
say, oh, mister former Vice
President Trump, I just love you so

553
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,480
much, and you did a bad
thing that day, but oh, I

554
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:34,679
just god, You're just so awesome. I mean, it really is.

555
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
It's it's I just find it's sad. You know again, I'm glad he

556
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,440
showed courage on January sixth, and
that's great. But I just tell you,

557
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,400
what, you ever put my family
in danger, if you were to

558
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,119
put anybody, if you were to
put Jenny in danger, or anybody in

559
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:54,239
my family in danger, anybody that
I love in danger, The last thing

560
00:43:54,800 --> 00:44:02,760
I would ever do is go out
and publicly humiliate myself and emasculate myself over

561
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:08,239
and over by saying nice things about
you after you did that. That's the

562
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,719
last thing I would do. It's
so bizarre to watch him, and he

563
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:20,079
gets so he gets so uncomfortable too, whenever he's I saw this and that

564
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,039
that last CNN town hall when uh
oh, who was it who was asking

565
00:44:24,119 --> 00:44:29,199
him the questions? Was it Jake
Tapper? Or was it Caitlin Collins anyway,

566
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,159
Uh, because I think he's done
a couple of him now right.

567
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:38,960
Um, you know, whenever he
gets into a situation where he's um,

568
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:45,239
he's being asked a question where it's
it's really hard, it's getting difficult for

569
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:51,440
him to defend Trump, who,
by the way, is his political opponent

570
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:55,000
for the nomination. But but he
just doesn't want to say anything too damning

571
00:44:55,079 --> 00:45:00,119
either, and he gets he gets
visibly nervous, like he starts shaking,

572
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:06,079
and he starts shifting in his seat, Like, dude, the guy put

573
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:13,559
your wife and your daughters in danger, be a man, for God's sake,

574
00:45:14,119 --> 00:45:17,639
show just the tiniest bit, just
a little Can we just see a

575
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:22,960
little, just brief flash of some
sort of degree of anger from you,

576
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,639
something that shows that, I mean, because otherwise I don't know how your

577
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:30,920
wife and your daughters can even look
at you. You're so just like,

578
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,760
well, you know, he put
he put my family in danger. But

579
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,400
ah, but he got bad advice
from lawyers. It's not his fault.

580
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:45,320
It's like, oh my god,
what what I mean is he just he

581
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,840
may thought he might not be fully
human. He may he might not be

582
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,199
capable of actual human emotion. Maybe
that's the problem. He's just such an

583
00:45:53,519 --> 00:46:00,239
empty husk of a man that he
can't even uh muster the anger. You

584
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,360
know. He's he's, he's He'll
always be a little bit disappointed, certainly

585
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,760
with President Trump over that, but
he'll never actually be angry with him,

586
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:13,679
you know, if for putting his
family in jeopardy. Karen Cuban is on

587
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,679
the line. Hello, Karen,
haven't heard from you in a while.

588
00:46:19,079 --> 00:46:22,519
Karen, are you there? I
am here. I finally you finally came

589
00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:25,119
through. You were breaking up.
Oh hey, how you doing. Haven't

590
00:46:25,159 --> 00:46:29,400
heard from you in a long time. I'm doing fine, Thank you.

591
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,000
I listened to the show. I
just haven't been calling. But I have

592
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:37,960
a question for you about today's indictment. Yes, the judge that is in

593
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:44,880
charge of this case actually has passed
down some stiff sentences towards January sixth.

594
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:50,519
Yeah, do you think he's more
likely to get a guilty sentence from her?

595
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,199
Well, it's ultimately up to the
jury, but I mean as far

596
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:59,239
as um, as far as the
verdict. But yes, I do think,

597
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,800
um, yes, I do think
this judge is going to be tough

598
00:47:02,159 --> 00:47:06,079
and uh and and it could be
a very stiff sentence if he has found

599
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,199
guilty. Absolutely, because you're right, this judge has been pretty tough on

600
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:15,000
the I call him insurrectionists. Uh
not everyone agrees with the use of that

601
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,800
term. I stand by it.
I say that that was an insurrection um

602
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,360
and uh yeah, and and and
good for the judge for being tough,

603
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,119
uh in my opinion, in my
opinion, Um, so yeah, I

604
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:30,199
do think uh yes, I do
think it could be a harsh sentence.

605
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,039
You know, that's assuming any of
this ever. I mean, look,

606
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:37,320
if Trump does manage to get reelected, which is possible, it's very possible

607
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:44,360
this all goes away. You know, he'll he'll he'll tell the DJ that's

608
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,559
it, uh, drop everything,
and he'll he'll pardon himself and and that'll

609
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,239
be it. So you know,
who knows if this will ever even get

610
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,079
to actually get to trial, you
know, and there's going to be a

611
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:57,079
lot of delays along the way.
But but no, if it if it

612
00:47:57,159 --> 00:48:00,599
gets if it does get to that
point where uh uh, he's you know,

613
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:04,119
he goes through a trial and he's
found guilty. Yeah, I think

614
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:08,519
he's looking at a tough sentence probably. I hope so, but and I

615
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:13,559
have two other questions. The one, why don't they make him surrender his

616
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,480
passport. Oh, he's not a
he's not a flight risk. I mean,

617
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:22,559
they could do that. But he's
not going anywhere. He's he's running

618
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:24,199
for president. He's not gonna he's
not gonna Where's he gonna go. He's

619
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:30,440
not gonna leave. You don't think
so he looks like he's going to lose

620
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,719
in court, you don't think he
would take off? No, No,

621
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:38,079
he won't. No, he's not
going anywhere. No, he's he's uh,

622
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,719
he's running for president. He's not
going anywhere, even even if it

623
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,079
looks like, I mean, he
may expect to lose, you know.

624
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,960
Uh, they don't usually bring From
what I understand, and I didn't even

625
00:48:50,039 --> 00:48:54,199
realize this until recently, but most
federal cases, I think it's around ninety

626
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,519
percent of federal cases that are brought
by the Department of Justice, um never

627
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:04,039
go to trial because they ninety percent
of the time they end up in a

628
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,840
plea deal and then the other ten
percent, most of the time, they

629
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:13,400
end up with a guilty verdict.
So, um, they're so good at

630
00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:21,480
at getting at convicting, at convicting
at convicting people that they usually don't even

631
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:24,639
get to trial. You know,
his lawyers might tell him. Trump's lawyers

632
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,199
might even tell him at some point, hey, we should really think about

633
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,199
pleading this out. This doesn't look
good. Who knows, but he won't

634
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,039
do it. He'll no, he's
not gonna do it. I mean,

635
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,400
that would look that. That might
be the one thing that really Rex's campaign

636
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,320
if he started pleading out, Although
even if he did that, he'd probably

637
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,679
just say, well, I had
to. You know, they put me

638
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,000
in a in a no win position, and I can't be I can't be

639
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,280
your president from jail. So if
you want me to make America great again

640
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,119
and take another shot at putting Hillary
Clinton in prison or whatever, then you

641
00:49:54,199 --> 00:49:57,760
know I had to. I had
to take the plea just so I could

642
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,159
stay out of jail. You know, I don't know who knows now his

643
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:06,559
family in one of a plea deals, they can't do any as far as

644
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,320
charity things in New York. Could
a plea deal like pound him out of

645
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:19,880
ever running for president again? Ah? Probably not. I don't. I

646
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,199
don't think so, because even if
that were presented to him, I think

647
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:28,760
he would just I think he would
reject that. I think he'd rather risk

648
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,639
a conviction and potentially even end up
in jail. I mean he can run,

649
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,519
Hell, he could in theory.
I mean he can run for president

650
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,559
from jail. It's been done.
I remember when I was a kid,

651
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:43,360
Lyndon LaRouche would run from prison every
year. He'd be on the ballot here

652
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:49,199
in New Hampshire. You know you
can do it. So no, I

653
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,320
don't think. Um. I mean, I guess you could put that in

654
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,559
a plea deal, right, but
I don't think he would accept it.

655
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,199
I don't think there's any chance.
I don't think they would even try because

656
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,239
they know he wouldn't accept it.
I didn't know a convicted if a convicted

657
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,639
seven could run for president. Yes, there is nothing uh stopping him.

658
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,760
Yeah, you can be a convicted
felon and still run for president, still

659
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,840
be elected. Um. Yeah,
the qualifications for presidential candidate are there's not

660
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,000
many of them. You know,
you gotta be thirty five, you gotta

661
00:51:21,039 --> 00:51:28,119
be a natural born American citizen.
Um. There's one other thing, right,

662
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:30,880
I think there's three basic things.
I feel like I'm forgetting something,

663
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,880
but yeah, you can be unity. What's that sanity? They should be

664
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:42,079
yes, No, what fun would
that be? Um no, uh no,

665
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
but no, there's there's nothing preventing
him from Uh And by the way,

666
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:52,360
uh that that happens more than people
realize. For example, Attorney General

667
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:59,880
Ken Paxton in Texas. Uh,
he's been elected to Attorney general while I

668
00:52:00,039 --> 00:52:01,920
don't know if he had been convicted
of anything, but while under indictment,

669
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:08,360
he run and was elected. And
you know, his legal problems have never

670
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,519
affected him, well until recently,
of course it finally caught up with him.

671
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:20,199
But yeah, that happens more than
people realize. Felons when office and

672
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,440
you know, never the presidency before, but there's the first time for everything.

673
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:30,719
We'll see. That's true. It
just doesn't seem like it, you

674
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,639
know, is a good representation of
the United States. To let selons run

675
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,400
for office, especially if Trump gets
indicted in foul guilty and could be a

676
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:44,800
president, makes no sense. Well, we're in a some sort of weird

677
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,159
alternate universe, Karen, and we
have been for a while. I think

678
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,639
that's true. One other thing is
I was watching some of the news reporters

679
00:52:53,760 --> 00:53:00,719
in if Trump decides to do the
debate, he can't do it, Penches.

680
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,840
There is that not right because Tense
might be a witness. Oh that's

681
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,039
interesting. Um, No, I
don't. I don't think it matters.

682
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:13,679
They just can't. I mean,
you raise an interesting point, because that

683
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,760
was one of the things one of
the instructions from the judge was he can't

684
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,440
talk to any witnesses. But I
don't know if he can't. I need

685
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,920
to get some clarification on that,
Karen, because I'm not sure. Was

686
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,960
it that he can't talk to any
other witnesses period or he just can't talk

687
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,800
about the case? Um? And
if so, but even if he can't

688
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:37,320
talk to any other witnesses period,
he can still they can still both be

689
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,320
at the debate, just not talk
to each other. I mean, they

690
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:43,519
might address each other directly during the
debate, but no, no conversations away

691
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:46,119
from that. Um, certainly,
but I don't get in. Yeah,

692
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:51,760
but the January six would be brought
up in any debate. So if they're

693
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,760
both there, one might be a
witness and then Trump's the other one,

694
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:59,480
then he can't answer anything, could
he. You're right, actually, Karen,

695
00:53:59,519 --> 00:54:01,760
You're right, that's a really good
point. Yeah, January sixth is

696
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,000
gonna come up during the debate.
So yeah, You're right, Karen,

697
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:08,079
that is a conundrum, isn't it. So I'm not sure. I mean,

698
00:54:08,199 --> 00:54:10,280
I mean, Trump's not going to
be there anyway. He's already said

699
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,320
he's not going to be there.
And I will say this from a just

700
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,920
a political standpoint, I think he's
right to not want to show up to

701
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,880
these debates. I mean, why
should he. You know, he's he's

702
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,920
up. Jeez, I saw a
pole. He's at like thirty seven percent

703
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:30,599
and I think De Santis is in
the single digits and that's the next closest

704
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:34,320
candidate. He's got no reason to
He has nothing to gain from showing up

705
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,639
at these debates. He is so
far ahead. And I'm still convinced he's

706
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:44,880
absolutely going to be the nominee,
that he's so far ahead that there's there

707
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:49,320
is no reason for him to be
there accepted ego. He has such a

708
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,920
big ego. I can't see him
not wanting to, like, you know,

709
00:54:53,039 --> 00:54:58,920
insult everybody up there. Yeah.
True, And that was that's Chris

710
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:01,480
Christie's argument. Two. That's that
Chris Christie keeps saying that Trump will be

711
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:06,800
there because of his ego. The
thing is, though history tells us he's

712
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,960
not afraid to skip out and then
do something, do something else, like

713
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:13,800
have a big rally while the debates
going on. He's done it a couple

714
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,440
of times. He did it during
the twenty sixteen primary season. If you

715
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:20,599
remember, there was one of the
Republican debates that he was not at.

716
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,760
I don't remember what the dispute was, but he found something to be mad

717
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,639
about and he said, I'm not
showing up for this debate, and he

718
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:30,000
didn't. And then, of course
one of the presidential debates in twenty twenty,

719
00:55:30,159 --> 00:55:35,199
we usually get three, we only
got two between Trump and Biden.

720
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,599
There was one of them. He
didn't like the rules, he said,

721
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:43,760
I refused to participate. He had
a big rally instead, and the debate

722
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:49,840
didn't happen. So he's not afraid
to just skip it. That's true.

723
00:55:50,159 --> 00:55:53,280
That's true. He'll be on one
of his news programs during the debate,

724
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:58,719
is like giving his opinion. Yeah. I think what he'll do is he'll

725
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,159
just have a big rally somewhere whenever
there's a debate, He'll just have a

726
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:07,000
big rally somewhere to kind of compete
with it. And uh, and that'll

727
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,280
be what he what he does.
That'll be how he deals with it.

728
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,880
Well, this will be interesting.
I mean, the United States is like

729
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:20,880
unbelievable. I never thought it would
come to this in my lifetime and it

730
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:24,440
has. And I just it's unbelievable
what's going on right now. It really

731
00:56:24,679 --> 00:56:31,360
is. I never would have imagined
any of this either. It's it's wild.

732
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:37,119
We live in interesting times, that's
for sure. Well, we'll just

733
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,639
cast you. I'll have to keep
my fingers cross and he's found guilty of

734
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,119
something anything that keeps the mind of
the White House. Yeah, I don't

735
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:52,679
know. I don't know, Karen, keep your keep your fingers crossed.

736
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,079
But h I don't know. I
mean, you know. And I said

737
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:58,800
on the show, I think it
was yesterday. I was saying, while

738
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,800
all of these legal problems, it
further reinforces my belief that he will be

739
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,519
the nominee because the more legal trouble
he's in there, his donations increase,

740
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,119
his campaign donations, and he goes
up in the polls, more and more

741
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:17,880
Republicans support him. But it makes
him it makes him more likely to be

742
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,519
the nominee, but it also makes
him a worse a worse general election candidate.

743
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,039
But I was saying on the show
earlier this week, at some point

744
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:30,000
I said, all it's gonna take
for him to win is for something to

745
00:57:30,079 --> 00:57:36,400
happen to Biden. So and I
don't even mean necessarily Biden starts falling down

746
00:57:36,519 --> 00:57:38,800
on a more regular basis or anything
like that. But what if Biden,

747
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:43,400
who's this about the same age as
Mitch McConnell. What if Biden has a

748
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,480
Mitch McConnell moment, say during a
speech or during a debate, say he's

749
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:52,039
debating Trump, and something like that
happens to Biden, it's over. Trump

750
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:58,159
wins if that happens. I absolutely
believe that Trump wins. If what happened

751
00:57:58,199 --> 00:58:02,559
to Mitch McConnell happens to Bide in
public, Trump wins this election. So

752
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,800
oh yeah, easily. That's why
I say Biden is selfish. Biden absolutely

753
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,840
should not be running for a second
term. You know, we can we

754
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,239
can talk about his record and the
good and the bad and all of that,

755
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,920
and we can argue about all of
that. But whether you whether you

756
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,199
like him don't like him, you
have ambivalence. He should not be seeking

757
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:28,320
a second term, and he is
selfish for doing so. In my opinion,

758
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,679
Yeah, I agree with you there. I don't think he should.

759
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,840
And if it goes to the general
election, and it is I was talking

760
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,519
to Darryl. If it goes between
Trump and Biden, I'll vote for President

761
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:45,239
Biden just because of who Trump is. But I wouldn't be voting for him

762
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,199
if there was somebody else. Do
you know what I mean? Did you

763
00:58:47,239 --> 00:58:52,239
hear what Bill Barr said this week? He said somebody asked him, you

764
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,840
know, who would he vote for
in twenty twenty, assuming Trump is the

765
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,719
nominee, And he said, I'll
jump off that bridge when I get to

766
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:04,239
it. It's true, which is
sad that you have to go into an

767
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,119
election thinking, well, you're going
to pick the lesser of the two evils,

768
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:10,000
that's what it would come down to. Well, and actually that's what

769
00:59:10,119 --> 00:59:14,440
it comes down to for a lot
of people in a normal circumstance anyway.

770
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:20,960
But it is shocking that here we
are, we're actually getting a rematch nobody

771
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:25,159
a rematch nobody wanted, but here
we are, that's what we're getting.

772
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,440
It's unreal, that's true. Unreal. Well, we'll just have to wait

773
00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:32,280
and see. And it was very
nice speaking with you, Yes, it

774
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,800
was nice speaking with you. Karen
I appreciate the call. Thank you so

775
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,679
much. You're welcome. Have good
evening, all right you too, Bye

776
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:44,000
bye, nice, all right,
nice here from Karen. It has been

777
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,199
a while. Well listen, we're
running a little bit late and we do

778
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:52,079
need to get to this. We've
got very, very exciting the world radio

779
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:55,119
premiere of the new single from Jerry
and the Scumbags. It's called Hipster Dipster.

780
00:59:57,039 --> 01:00:00,639
And there's this guy, Mattzo Covington
on the base on this track,

781
01:00:00,719 --> 01:00:05,280
and interesting, I think he elevates
the whole song. Actually, you know

782
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,199
what's cool about this song though,
this show, this very show is mentioned

783
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,599
in the lyrics of the song,
which I think is pretty cool. So

784
01:00:14,039 --> 01:00:16,199
we're gonna give this a listen the
world radio premiere. Then we're gonna show

785
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:20,360
some love to our amazing sponsors,
and then we'll be back with the rest

786
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,159
of our number two numerodose of Matt
Connerton Unleashed. So there is a plenty

787
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,079
more to come on this historic day. But here it is the brand new

788
01:00:29,159 --> 01:00:32,480
single, Hipster Dipster from Jerry and
the Scumbags, right here on Matt Connerton

789
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:37,480
Unleashed. Jerry, I think it's
time to put another song on we have

790
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:40,800
to the people are asking for it. Miss the Bee. You know,

791
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:45,000
I'll never I'll never not listen to
what you have to say, you being

792
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:52,239
my professional studio Pagosa of course,
But is it we should we really put

793
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,559
out another I mean that the album
is coming out, like you said then

794
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,400
one of the previous videos, it's
coming out soon. And do we do

795
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:04,480
we really need to give them another
taste of the album. I mean,

796
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:07,239
it's my single. I'm demand not
enough. People are asking for it.

797
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:12,119
It's time they want another one.
I've been reading the comments. People say

798
01:01:12,159 --> 01:01:15,800
that they want to hear more.
But should I give them one now?

799
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Is a little tip bit, a
little delicious muscle? Or should I just

800
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:22,920
hit them all at once with the
other eight or nine songs that we're working

801
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:28,159
on give them one? No,
Hipster Dipster. Absolutely, you think that

802
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,880
I should do Hipster Dipster as the
next song. That's one of the best

803
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,480
on the album. You have to
give them a taste, you know,

804
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,800
mister B I do believe you're right. Hipster Dipster it's gonna be the next

805
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:46,039
single. It's coming to you and
your air your airwaves. That that DI

806
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:49,880
missed that one up. That's I'm
sorry, mister b I didn't mean to

807
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,480
embarrass myself in front of your presence. But coming to you live now right

808
01:01:54,599 --> 01:02:39,079
through the air waves, hipster,
dipster? What's more with I? Sasiete

809
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:49,960
all against they are meeting, They
just like to call me. Listen,

810
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:55,599
my valente. Why can't they mean
more like me? I like to why

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are you say that name? Lay
do name? Crowd clowns all the same.

812
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It seems like kind. I'll find
a way to man corner you sat

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rat again, sir, dister,
wing to your radio. Can't ster,

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dister. They don't know real fucking
wool spinster, Dister. But your lot

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says making small Hester Dister. But
send me do that soul sa so shoe?

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What cast the corn store? Some
cases sitting in my stone deo?

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Mynkle's goning on my phone from some
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doosie. The aways ain't could be
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with my seat. The kissing ain't
just fucking on young mes, gummy stupid

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thoughts. I might just be an
offense ze riding out this one might know,

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answer, dister, don't into your
way deoser dinster, they don't know

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real fucking mole. Answer, dister, but you lot says make against you

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allster, Dister, I say me, don't that so sad? Soul show

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WMNH rip the novels Welcome back everybody
as we are well in our number

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two Numero Dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed
and we are live from the studios of

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in downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also

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on Comcast ninety seven if you're in
Manchester, and hello to all of our

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our online listeners across the nation and
around the globe. You can go to

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my website Matt Connerton dot com for
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links, contact in folk show archives, etc. Et cetera. Today is

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Thursday, August third, two thousand
twenty three. By the way, quick

855
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:57,079
programming alert if you will. Jenny
is just confirmed. H She has just

856
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alerted me that she has confirmed Democratic
can at it Marian Williamson will be joining

857
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:08,399
us live in studio on Friday,
August eighteenth, so she will be here

858
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,840
live. That'll be great. She's
um, you know, she's an author,

859
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and of course she's a Democrat running
for the nomination, challenging Joe Biden

860
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for the nomination. And I remember
i'd said this to Jenny. You know,

861
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of course she ran, and she
ran in twenty twenty and you know

862
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she was always on the on the
side of the debate stage. You know,

863
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you know how they have they try
to put the front runner in the

864
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middle and kind of fan out from
there, and you know, she was

865
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always on one end, you know, never had much of a chance,

866
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:40,920
and I never thought that, you
know, a lot of people there was

867
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,680
a lot of criticism about her not
really coming off that great during those debates.

868
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But then I happen to see a
couple of long form interviews that people

869
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had done with her on a couple
of different podcasts, and I actually found

870
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,119
her to be quite impressive. So
you know, that debate format where you

871
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,039
only get to speak for you know, especially if you're not one of the

872
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,239
one of the hunt runners, you
only get you don't get a lot of

873
01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:04,560
speaking time, and you know,
it's hard to kind of make the most

874
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,560
of it. I would, I
would think to be up there and just

875
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knowing that you only have a minute
or thirty seconds or forty five seconds to

876
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try to get out a thought or
a policy position or respond to somebody else,

877
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and uh, you know, some
people manage to make it work and

878
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,399
some people don't. And she seemed
to struggle with that. But but also,

879
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,760
you know, she's not a professional
politician. But then I saw her

880
01:11:26,119 --> 01:11:30,279
being interviewed on a podcast and I
said, Wow. She she really knows

881
01:11:30,399 --> 01:11:35,399
the issues, and she's very intelligent
and very articulate when you you know,

882
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,039
when you give her a chance to
actually express herself. So the debate format

883
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:45,439
was not great for her, but
but in terms of an actual open discussion,

884
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,479
she's very interesting and I look forward
to look forward to having her here

885
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,239
in studio. So she will be
here on Friday, August eighteenth, and

886
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,560
we look forward to that. Jenny
says in the chat room, I think

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I like her. Yes, Yes, six zo three two five zero six

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we just heard a few minutes ago
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from Jerry and the Scumbags. The
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couple of direct references to this radio
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lot of fun. And check check
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Gentleman. Let's see a couple other quick

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notes. Because it is Thursday.
It is the first Thursday of the month,

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which means immediately following this show,
I as soon as I'm off the

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air here, I grab my cell
phone and I do my monthly call in

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to the Doctor Kevin Show. And
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Ometimes radio network omom as an omeometimes
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if you'd like to tune in.
So the first Thursday of every month,

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I am a Doctor Kevin's guest and
we talk about politics and current events,

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and I would guess that we'll be
speaking about the events of today. So

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for those of you if you get
to the end of this show today and

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you oh my god, I need
more Matt Connerton, as long as you

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don't mind sharing me with doctor Kevin, you can have another hour of me.

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You just have to go to another
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dot com slash iom is where that
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be happening this evening. Also,
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something you'll want to get there early for

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if you do want to want to
enjoy the show. Uh, let's see

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we should Uh we'll get caught up
here with everybody in the Facebook live chat.

941
01:15:40,319 --> 01:15:47,640
Lots lots going on in there.
Oh hello to William slam Car in

942
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,399
the Facebook live chat. For a
second there, I thought, I said,

943
01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:54,239
William Shatner. I said, what, let's see, you haven't seen

944
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:56,720
William in there in a while.
He says, can he legally this is

945
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,800
referring to Trump, of course,
can he legally spend campaign money raised on

946
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:06,079
the lawyers? That has been a
question recently, William, because we learned

947
01:16:06,399 --> 01:16:13,239
that I guess about three out of
every four dollars the Trump raises is going

948
01:16:13,319 --> 01:16:15,800
to pay his legal fees. Well, at least his lawyers are actually getting

949
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:25,079
paid. Ask Rudy Giuliani about that. But I don't think there's anything illegal

950
01:16:25,159 --> 01:16:28,520
about it, not that I'm aware
of. I mean, campaign finance law

951
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:34,479
is complicated. It's also poorly and
loosely enforced. But I but I'd said

952
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,680
this on the show. I think
it was yesterday or the day before.

953
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:43,920
I was saying too that I don't
imagine that people who are donating to his

954
01:16:44,199 --> 01:16:48,239
campaign or his pack, I don't. I don't imagine they particularly mind.

955
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:55,039
Because for Trump, all all the
legal problems are really just a part of

956
01:16:55,159 --> 01:16:59,000
his campaign. It's actually a net
benefit for him in terms of trying to

957
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:00,760
win the nomination. Again, I
don't think it helps him in the general

958
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,840
election, but in terms of winning
the nomination, because Trump has so effectively

959
01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:09,319
you know, he tells, he
tells his supporters, you know, I'm

960
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:14,239
doing this for you. He even
couched today today's events his arraignment as being

961
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:16,640
quote a great honor, he said, because I'm doing it for you,

962
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,199
and we're all in this together,
and they're not really after me, they're

963
01:17:19,239 --> 01:17:23,479
after all of us and this and
that, and his supporters really eat that

964
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:26,760
up, and they just keep giving
him more money. Every new indictment,

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01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,399
every new arraignment, every new bit
of legal trouble, his poll numbers go

966
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,079
up within the Republican Party, thus
assuring he will be the nominee as I'm

967
01:17:35,119 --> 01:17:41,319
absolutely convinced he will be, and
he raises more money. It's now you

968
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:47,079
could say, though, it might
not be in terms of business, and

969
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,199
if you were to look at a
profit and lost statement, it might not

970
01:17:51,399 --> 01:17:56,439
be the best business model. Yes, you're taking in all this money,

971
01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:00,279
so it looks like you've got a
profitable enterprise. But and you're also the

972
01:18:00,359 --> 01:18:06,039
money is going right back out because
it's going to legal fees. So is

973
01:18:06,039 --> 01:18:13,000
that really a sound business model.
Probably not. But if it gets him

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to the nomination, which it will, then he just has to get to

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the presidency. And if he can
get to the presidency, all the federal

976
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legal problems go away. You know, he'll he'll he'll appoint an attorney general

977
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,560
and say make this go away,
and it goes away. Now that doesn't

978
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,279
help him, say for example,
in Georgia where he's got stay charges to

979
01:18:34,359 --> 01:18:40,039
deal with, or he will,
but but it does it does help him

980
01:18:40,079 --> 01:18:43,920
federally certainly if he can, if
he can just win the nomination, UH

981
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Texas. Former Congressman US Congressman from
Texas Will Hurd said at an event over

982
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the weekend, he said Donald Trump
is not and he got booed for this.

983
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Of course, he said, Donald
Trump is not running to be president

984
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:02,159
of the United States. He's running
to stay out of prison, which is

985
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probably the harshest and most critical thing
I've heard. Will Heard say, you

986
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:11,079
know, Chris Christie has been by
far the most aggressive, and then Asa

987
01:19:11,199 --> 01:19:15,680
Hutchinson has been probably the second most
aggressive. And then I put Will Heard

988
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,960
at third, but Will heard saying
that, I mean, that's that's almost

989
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:25,520
Chris Christie level. And of course
they booed him. They booed him as

990
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:31,640
one would expect. Miriam banished in
the chat room says, here is where

991
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:38,359
cognitive dissonance is important. They give
him money and once they do it to

992
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,279
then think he was a terrible person
would cause them terrible discomfort, so they

993
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:48,319
double down and love him more because
they have to love him to have given

994
01:19:48,399 --> 01:19:53,199
him so much money. That makes
sense. I mean, there's a lot

995
01:19:53,279 --> 01:19:57,079
we could say about the psychology of
all this isn't there. But that does

996
01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:02,319
make sense, Mariam. But yeah, I don't think there's anything legally preventing

997
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:05,560
him from spending campaign money on lawyers. I mean, listen, you,

998
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:10,960
campaign money gets spent on lawyers anyway, right, I mean, every every

999
01:20:11,079 --> 01:20:17,960
campaign has to have attorneys anyway,
right, because you know, you've got

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01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:23,079
to wade through the mine field that
can be campaign finance law, you know,

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01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:26,760
when anyone actually bothers to enforce it. And like I said, I

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01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:30,239
cannot imagine. Let me put it
this way. I've not heard of a

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single instance of anyone who has donated
money to Trump actually complaining about the money

1004
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:44,600
going to legal fees. I think
they're completely fine with it. Jenny says

1005
01:20:45,119 --> 01:20:48,319
this was being reported earlier while Trump
was in court. He has being released

1006
01:20:48,399 --> 01:20:51,840
under the conditions. He can't speak. I'm sorry, he can't break any

1007
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,920
more laws federal or state. Must
be in court for everything. He is

1008
01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:02,720
not to talk to anyone about the
case. Who is a witness? Isaac

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01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:11,520
Banks says Trump. Trump is truly
going down for the ex president. By

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01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,920
the way, he's already he's already
left. I believe he's got back.

1011
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,119
He made some sort of a statement
to the media brief one and then got

1012
01:21:16,199 --> 01:21:21,079
back on the plane. Isaac Banks
also says, as the Fonds, whoa

1013
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,479
or how did the Fonds? He's
saying, whoa something like that. Something

1014
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:34,399
I haven't watched Happy Days in decades. Uh, let's see. Jenny says

1015
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:38,359
Pence could very well be a witness. Oh. Absolutely, I think he's

1016
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,600
going to be. Uh, he's
going to testify. He shows up a

1017
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,760
lot in the indictment. Melanie Liberty
from the Great State of Vermont joins us

1018
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,600
and says, hey, guys.
Isaac Banks says, by the way,

1019
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:54,159
Abort seven is watching you on Facebook
Live. Melanie says, yeah, Pence

1020
01:21:54,199 --> 01:22:05,199
definitely gets uncomfortable when things get well
played. Melanie Aboard seven says, good

1021
01:22:05,239 --> 01:22:09,239
afternoon, hashtag Matt we say to
you, and we are from Greensboro,

1022
01:22:09,319 --> 01:22:13,079
North Carolina. We are good friends
with Isaac Banks. Yes, I figured

1023
01:22:13,119 --> 01:22:26,840
as much. Let's see. Jenny
says he never talks about issues. Jenny

1024
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,199
says, Trump is speaking. Oh
this is when he This must have been

1025
01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:35,840
right before he got back on the
plane. Trump speaking, very sad day

1026
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:41,319
for America, very sad driving through
DC with decay and broken buildings. This

1027
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:46,880
is persecution, etc. We can't
let this happen in America. He spoke

1028
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:53,640
to the press briefly before boarding his
plane. Jenny says, too. You

1029
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,920
know, she's been there a few
times recently. I thought DC looked great

1030
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:03,199
and didn't see much homelessness at all, not like here. Tom Blanchard is

1031
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:06,119
in the chairman says, how can
we haven't seen Milannia lately? She must

1032
01:23:06,199 --> 01:23:11,399
be being well paid. Yeah,
we haven't seen Milannia much, although there

1033
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:15,159
were long stretches during the Trump presidency
where we didn't see much of Milania either.

1034
01:23:15,279 --> 01:23:17,319
But I she never looked like she
was comfortable with the whole thing.

1035
01:23:20,079 --> 01:23:25,199
Jenny says, probably living her best
single styled life. Lol. They have

1036
01:23:25,279 --> 01:23:30,880
separate bedrooms. Aboard seven apparently really
enjoyed the new song from Jerry. Robinson

1037
01:23:30,079 --> 01:23:34,119
says, oh yeah, we say
we say that is rock and roll hashtag

1038
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:40,279
Matt Connerton, Jenny points out in
the chat, now if Trump is elected

1039
01:23:40,359 --> 01:23:44,439
he can part in federal charges pardon
himself, but he can't do anything with

1040
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:54,800
New York or Georgia. I'm guessing
Florida would give him a pardon, let's

1041
01:23:54,840 --> 01:24:00,800
see. Mariam also says he needs
to stop running his mouth referring to Trump.

1042
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:08,560
I assume let's um talk a little
bit about Ron De Santis, because

1043
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:14,039
I just saw something that really jumped
out at me. You know, when

1044
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:16,039
people, oh, hello to a
grim Rock who I see in the Facebook

1045
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:24,680
live chat, you know, there's
a lot of violent rhetoric used, a

1046
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:29,920
lot of violent imagery that didn't used
to be a thing that we see now

1047
01:24:30,319 --> 01:24:34,319
in here now, and then I
see this from the Hill dot com.

1048
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:43,640
Does Santis vows to start It's almost
it's actually almost sort of comical because I

1049
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,840
can't believe him about to read this
sentence. But I think De Santis,

1050
01:24:47,119 --> 01:24:51,920
you know, he's been trying to
kind of adjust and recalibrate his campaign because

1051
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,840
a lot of big money donors are
abandoning him. A lot of them are

1052
01:24:55,880 --> 01:25:01,399
going to Tim Scott apparently to see
this is from the Hill, DeSantis vows

1053
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,520
to start slitting throats on day one. Oh my goodness, what's he gonna

1054
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:11,880
go to Disney and start uh,
you know, because he's got this vendetta

1055
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,800
against Disney and now he's mad at
Annheuser Bush too. I think, right,

1056
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,760
that's who makes bud Light. He's
mad at them too. This is

1057
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:21,520
gonna start slitting throats. He's a
he's a serious Maybe he's a serial killer.

1058
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:25,600
You know what I think he's gonna
do. I think Governor de Santis,

1059
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,600
I think he's gonna put on a
Garth Brooks mask and just go around.

1060
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:38,239
Uh that's what he said. Listen
to this um um oops, here

1061
01:25:38,319 --> 01:25:45,279
we go. Florida Governor Ron de
Santis on Sunday said he would quote start

1062
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:51,199
slitting throats on day one unquote when
it comes to taking on the deep state.

1063
01:25:53,119 --> 01:25:57,720
DeSantis made the remarks at a barbecue
campaign event in Ryan, New Hampshire,

1064
01:25:58,319 --> 01:26:02,159
hosted by former Senator Scott Brown,
Republican of Massachusetts. To santa said,

1065
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:06,079
quote, We're going to have all
of these deep state people, and

1066
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:12,239
you know, we are going to
start slitting throats on day one unquote.

1067
01:26:15,279 --> 01:26:18,279
Listen, if you've heard me talk
about Governor to Santas in the past,

1068
01:26:18,359 --> 01:26:23,000
if you're a regular listener, you
know I've I've used certain terms to describe

1069
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:31,039
the governor. I believe one of
them is psychotic, because listen, if

1070
01:26:31,119 --> 01:26:38,880
you use that kind of violent imagery
when you speak, even though okay,

1071
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:44,399
he's probably just being colorful, he's
probably he means hyperbolically, he's not literally

1072
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,239
literally going around going to go around
slitting people's throats. We would hope,

1073
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:55,439
right, but that he would even
speak that way I find troubling. I

1074
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,479
wouldn't want to be alone in a
room with somebody who talks about slitting people's

1075
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,840
throats, that's for sure, it
says here. This is not the first

1076
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:11,119
time the Florida governor governor has used
the terminology. Last month, during an

1077
01:27:11,239 --> 01:27:16,560
interview with the right leaning outlet Real
America's Voice, decantists use the expression when

1078
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:21,359
talking about how he would change the
hierarchy in the Department of Defense if elected.

1079
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:30,439
Quote, I think the idea that
you take a flag officer or a

1080
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,039
general officer who recently retired and put
them as Secretary of Defense, I think

1081
01:27:34,079 --> 01:27:39,199
it is a mistake. You know, they may have to slit some throats,

1082
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,880
and it's a lot harder to do
that if these are people that you've

1083
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,760
trained with in the past. Or
that, you know, So we're going

1084
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,800
to have to have somebody out there, you know, be very firm,

1085
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,199
very strong, but they are going
to make sure that we have the best

1086
01:27:56,279 --> 01:28:00,920
people in the best positions and there's
not going to be nest necessarily prior relationships

1087
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:11,840
that would cloud that judgment. Unquote. Uh. DeSantis added later in the

1088
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:17,479
interview, I love killing No,
I'm kidding. I added that that's that

1089
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:21,880
was a joke. No, But
I mean, as somebody who speaks that

1090
01:28:23,079 --> 01:28:26,640
way, you know, doesn't that
kind of creepy out a little bit.

1091
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,800
I mean, again, I get
it, he's I'm sure he's using it

1092
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:35,399
as a figure of speech. I'm
sure he's not actually walking around having murder

1093
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:42,720
fantasies, but I'm actually not sure, you know, I don't. I

1094
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:47,279
don't know. I don't usually communicate
with people who speak that way, you

1095
01:28:47,359 --> 01:28:51,800
know. I mean, if if
let's say, for example, you're in

1096
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:58,479
a work situation and someone you you
work with or someone you interact with professionally

1097
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:02,239
every day at your job, just
one day in conversation they say something you

1098
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:06,760
like, Now, you know,
I'm so mad at management here at this

1099
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:12,079
job. I think it's about time
I went and started slitting some throats.

1100
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:15,640
Um, what would you think?
Would you think that that person might be

1101
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:19,520
a danger, would you be comfortable
around that person, or would you just

1102
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:25,479
be like, oh, yeah,
they just mean uh what do they mean?

1103
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,680
It sounds like they want to murder
some people. I mean, come

1104
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:38,560
on, that's creepy to me.
That is creepy to me. Yeah,

1105
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:42,960
he was here in New Hampshire.
I mean maybe maybe he just thinks that

1106
01:29:43,239 --> 01:29:46,359
that's how people talk in New Hampshire, that we talk about slitting throats.

1107
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:56,640
I don't know, but that is
Um, that is the second most popular

1108
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:01,279
candidate for the Republican nomination, Trump
being first. I mean even Trump doesn't

1109
01:30:01,279 --> 01:30:09,680
say like Trump. Trump has invoked
violent imagery certainly. Uh, but uh,

1110
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,479
I've never even heard Trump use an
expression like that. I mean maybe

1111
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,800
he has, but I don't know. I've never heard Trump say hey,

1112
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:25,000
you know, like when I'm when
I mean, I certainly don't recall in

1113
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:28,279
in twenty sixteen, I'm saying something
like yeah, you know I'm gonna be

1114
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,880
president and you know we're gonna slid
Hillary Clinton's throat or something like that.

1115
01:30:31,279 --> 01:30:34,760
I mean, who talks that way? I don't trust anybody. I'm sorry.

1116
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:40,119
I don't feel comfortable around anybody who
talks that way. That's uh,

1117
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:45,720
that's that's creepy. Am I wrong? Am I overreacting? You know,

1118
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,199
if if, if, if anyone
thinks I'm overreacting, please tell me.

1119
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:56,279
Let's see. Let me give the
number we've got. Oh yeah, we've

1120
01:30:56,319 --> 01:30:59,560
got about another twenty minutes or so. In today's show six three two five

1121
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:08,359
hs six seven six two five six
seven. Oh my goodness, Polster Frank

1122
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:15,960
Lentz said something very troubling here.
This is from mediae dot Com. A

1123
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:21,640
sullen Frank Luntz warns that conflicting realities
portrayed on cable news is a sign of

1124
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:33,000
the beginning of the end for the
US. I'm m I'm curious what he

1125
01:31:33,119 --> 01:31:40,640
had to say here. Let's see, this is a Polster Republican Polster Frank

1126
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:45,000
Lentz during Political Strategist Frank Lentz.
Mister Lenz was on this show during the

1127
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,399
January sixth attack on Capitol Hill.
Frank, thanks very much for joining us.

1128
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:54,359
Well, hopefully will not be as
emotional today as I was that evening.

1129
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,760
Yeah, you you were emotional.
It was an emotional evening. You

1130
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,359
were describing it as a disgrace.
It was happening in the United States.

1131
01:32:00,399 --> 01:32:03,520
You were angry at Donald Trump,
who was then the president, and now

1132
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:08,319
here we are those two and a
half years later, he's facing criminal charges,

1133
01:32:08,399 --> 01:32:12,239
quite a few of them, this
time over his role in the events

1134
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,119
that day. So your thoughts,
now, well, here's the problem.

1135
01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:21,319
I sit up all night into the
morning listening to our cable news networks describe

1136
01:32:21,359 --> 01:32:29,119
what was happening, and you had
one completely different scenario on one network than

1137
01:32:29,159 --> 01:32:33,079
you had on another network or the
third network. It's not that we disagree

1138
01:32:33,119 --> 01:32:38,039
with solutions we or disagree with the
problems. We don't even agree on the

1139
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:42,520
same facts anymore. And depending on
where you get your news, it's frankly

1140
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:47,399
to affirm rather than inform. And
I don't know how you address that.

1141
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,359
I don't know how you bring people
back together, and most importantly, with

1142
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:57,079
what has happened with the President Trump, I don't know how you instill accountability

1143
01:32:57,159 --> 01:33:01,159
anymore. Can you see it,
bluntly? Can you see a future or

1144
01:33:01,279 --> 01:33:05,439
bright future for your country? And
now let's put it the other way,

1145
01:33:06,319 --> 01:33:13,439
Could this be the beginning of the
end? And it's now conceivable it's the

1146
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,760
same thing I feel towards Ai.
There's a ten percent likelihood that everything goes

1147
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:21,960
to hell. Last night, I'm
listening on some of these news networks as

1148
01:33:23,039 --> 01:33:28,279
people are swearing, as they're talking
in a way that I've never heard Americans

1149
01:33:28,359 --> 01:33:32,960
talk on television before. Everything that
I thought was impossible is now happening.

1150
01:33:34,039 --> 01:33:36,840
So if you ask me, how
bad can it get? I don't know,

1151
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,720
but I know it can be a
lot worse. And I know that

1152
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,680
whatever happens here is coming to you
all maybe five years down the road.

1153
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:51,239
And it's a very sad day.
By the way. When he says this

1154
01:33:51,359 --> 01:33:57,000
is coming to you all. That
was on he was on a Canadian cable

1155
01:33:57,079 --> 01:34:05,920
news program. Apparently I've never seen
Frank so down in the down in the

1156
01:34:06,079 --> 01:34:15,079
dumps. Rudy Giuliani apparently, Well, here, let's play this clip.

1157
01:34:15,399 --> 01:34:21,560
This is from Rudy Giuliani. This
is from Media I Slam's desk, an

1158
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:27,840
angry rant against Trump indictment. You
don't get to violate people's First Amendment rights.

1159
01:34:28,039 --> 01:34:33,119
Smith. That's one of the arguments. One of the arguments in defense

1160
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:39,920
of Trump is that he can say
whatever he wants to say, but actually

1161
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,119
we should talk about this for a
moment, then we'll play the clip.

1162
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,880
He can say whatever he wants to
say. So if he wants to go

1163
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:48,800
around so say, for example,
the president of the United States at two

1164
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:53,039
thirty in the morning of election night, if he wants to go out and

1165
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:58,119
tell everybody this election was stolen from
us. We won this election and they

1166
01:34:58,159 --> 01:35:00,560
stole it from us, even though
as Chris Christie has pointed out, he

1167
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:05,720
had no way of knowing at two
thirty in the morning the night of the

1168
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:11,239
election that, you know, how
would he have even known that or had

1169
01:35:11,279 --> 01:35:20,159
any evidence of that. But also
that's not part of the indictment. They

1170
01:35:20,319 --> 01:35:26,279
left that out. The indictment centers
on other things, and as far as

1171
01:35:26,359 --> 01:35:30,239
I can tell, really the crux
of it is making the argument that he

1172
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:34,399
knew he had lost the election,
but he made an effort to overturn the

1173
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:39,279
election illegally, you know, to
kind of sum it up. But it

1174
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:44,000
doesn't I don't think the indictment,
unless I've misunderstood something, doesn't actually touch

1175
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,960
anything that any of Trump's public statements. And now Miriam points out in the

1176
01:35:49,039 --> 01:35:54,960
chat room First Amendment does not cover
inciting a riot. True, but you

1177
01:35:55,039 --> 01:36:00,239
know, rights are not absolute,
and incitement of violence is not covered your

1178
01:36:00,399 --> 01:36:06,760
in terms of your First Amendment rights, incitement is not included. But then

1179
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:10,479
you have, you know, then
you can get into these arguments about well,

1180
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:17,079
what constitutes inciting a riot and and
so forth. But that's not part

1181
01:36:17,159 --> 01:36:21,399
of the indictment. And yet what
I'm seeing now is it's almost as though

1182
01:36:23,399 --> 01:36:28,199
some of the Trump defenders are trying
to spin it as though it is a

1183
01:36:28,319 --> 01:36:31,159
part of the indictment. They seem
to be arguing from a point of well,

1184
01:36:31,239 --> 01:36:35,359
this indictment is saying that he can't
have his First Amendment rights. But

1185
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:40,359
that's not even part of the indictment. The it's about his efforts to overturn

1186
01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:45,000
the twenty twenty election, including the
fake electors plot and whatnot. But let's

1187
01:36:45,079 --> 01:36:49,800
hear what Giuliani had to say.
What show was he on. Oh,

1188
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:56,960
he was on a Newsmax show called
The Balance. Will play the clip here?

1189
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:02,920
Oh, why don't have any audio? Oh? I know why?

1190
01:37:04,399 --> 01:37:10,800
That is operator error. Here we
go. So what do you what do

1191
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:13,760
you what do you say to Jack
Smith? I mean, and again,

1192
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,000
I guess you have to be careful
what you say. He still is the

1193
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:26,199
Special Investigator of the Special Prosecutor you
know, yours in others future long ago.

1194
01:37:26,399 --> 01:37:29,560
Stop being careful and I didn't worry. I don't worry about the Jack

1195
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:35,319
Smiths of this world. Is he
crying? He sounds like he's crying.

1196
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:42,720
I've never heard what is going on
there? Why is his voice wavering like

1197
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:48,279
that? Did he suddenly have a
shock of conscience where he feels badly about

1198
01:37:48,319 --> 01:37:56,239
what he did to Ruby Freeman and
her daughter? Because he should. He

1199
01:37:56,319 --> 01:38:01,920
should feel very badly about that he
ruined their lives over a lie. I'm

1200
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,199
kidding, of course, what I
say. Does he feel badly about that?

1201
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:10,479
No? I am quite certain that
he doesn't. I cannot imagine he's

1202
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,520
even capable of accepting responsibility. But
let me back this up a little.

1203
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,920
He sounds like he's crying. Careful
what you say? He still is the

1204
01:38:20,399 --> 01:38:26,600
special investigator of the special prosecutor you
know, I kind of you know yours

1205
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:31,279
in others future long ago. I
stop being careful, and I didn't worry.

1206
01:38:31,319 --> 01:38:35,159
I don't worry about the Jack Smiths
of this world. I have a

1207
01:38:35,279 --> 01:38:40,359
chapter in my books called stand Up
to Bullies. So here's what I say

1208
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:45,119
to Jack Smith after the Supreme Court
throughout your case, which should should should

1209
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,439
have been a disgrace, and you
should have gone and found another profession because

1210
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:55,359
you don't belong in this one.
This one will be your legacy, violating

1211
01:38:56,119 --> 01:38:59,840
the right of free speech of an
American citizen. Never mind whether he was

1212
01:39:00,039 --> 01:39:03,199
resident or not. You could be
anybody, You could be a homeless person.

1213
01:39:04,159 --> 01:39:09,359
You don't get to violate people's first
Amendments, right Smith, No matter

1214
01:39:09,399 --> 01:39:12,600
who the hell you are, but
no matter how sick you are with Trump

1215
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:16,840
derangement syndrome. And this isn't the
first time you've acted like an unethical lawyer,

1216
01:39:17,159 --> 01:39:23,680
it should be the last. What
about what about his uh? I

1217
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,119
guess you'd call him his boss,
Maybe not his boss, but with the

1218
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:30,960
guy who pointed him. What about
Carlin? I say, I want to

1219
01:39:31,039 --> 01:39:35,720
investigate his son in law who's making
millions teaching kids how to change their agenda

1220
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:42,560
while the boss, I mean,
it's all about money in the Biden administration.

1221
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:46,600
While the boss is condemning parents as
terrorists, the son in law is

1222
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:53,159
making millions going around to public schools
and teaching kids they should question their agenda.

1223
01:39:53,239 --> 01:39:56,720
Do you know that they don't cover
it all? Crooked pos doesn't we've

1224
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,800
we've we've got I think I've they've
covered that with you on the balanced quite

1225
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:08,800
a few years, and it's amazing. I don't even know what that's about.

1226
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:14,039
But he seems like I don't think
I don't think he was crying,

1227
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:19,079
but I think he's uh. I
think he's uh starting to slip away there

1228
01:40:19,079 --> 01:40:25,079
a little bit. He's not he's
not the same. I think this has

1229
01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:29,119
all taken a toll on him.
Um. Maybe it's a Dorian Gray thing.

1230
01:40:29,239 --> 01:40:32,039
I don't know. I think he's
deteriorating, and I think that,

1231
01:40:32,399 --> 01:40:36,840
uh, and you know, he
might feel he won't say it publicly,

1232
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:42,079
of course, but uh, there's
been a lot. At one point,

1233
01:40:42,399 --> 01:40:45,800
there were a lot of stories going
around about you know, Trump not you

1234
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,000
know, because Juliani wasn't successful in
getting the election overturned, and Trump not

1235
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:58,680
paying him because Trump uh is known
for not paying lawyers. Um. But

1236
01:40:59,039 --> 01:41:02,000
uh, wow, that was that
was I'm not used to seeing Giuliani quite

1237
01:41:02,079 --> 01:41:05,239
that way, Melanie says in the
chat room. Doesn't make me a bad

1238
01:41:05,319 --> 01:41:12,159
person if I hope he's crying.
Um, no, no, I make

1239
01:41:12,239 --> 01:41:16,000
no judgment. Shannon is on the
line, High Shannon, Hello, Hello,

1240
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:21,479
Who was that just speaking? That
was Rudy Giuliani. He sounds different.

1241
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:27,479
He sounds a little different, doesn't
he. Yeah, yeah, I'd

1242
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,479
say he wasn't crying because it didn't
sniffle once. Yeah, in the beginning,

1243
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:34,560
his voice was shaking so much it
sounded like he was crying. But

1244
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:41,640
uh, but no, that or
almost is if he's starting maybe Parkinson's or

1245
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,439
something. Oh, why do you
say that? Is that? Is that

1246
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:48,000
a symptom shaking one? I think
so. I don't. I haven't been

1247
01:41:48,039 --> 01:41:55,479
around enough people to notice. But
or very nervous type. I don't know,

1248
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,279
it's just not He wasn't crying,
that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

1249
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:03,159
I think in the beginning with her
was him swallow. I don't know,

1250
01:42:04,359 --> 01:42:08,159
but he doesn't. He doesn't look
good. You know. I have

1251
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:10,479
video. You know you can't see
it at home, obviously I have video

1252
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,119
here too. And he doesn't look
good. He looks like he's uh,

1253
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,279
he looks like he's at the end
of a long road. I'll put it.

1254
01:42:20,359 --> 01:42:24,119
Well, you know, And I
have no sympathy for the guy.

1255
01:42:24,199 --> 01:42:27,399
I mean, I've I've talked about
on the show what he did, what

1256
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:32,840
he did to those poll workers,
by starting that lie about them, which

1257
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:38,560
then got repeated by Trump himself in
that call with Brad Raffinsburger, which then

1258
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:43,239
became public, which then ruined their
lives and put their safety in danger.

1259
01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:47,159
You know, I have I have
no sympathy for this man whatsoever. None.

1260
01:42:48,039 --> 01:42:51,159
No, And I'm a pretty empathetic
person, but I have no.

1261
01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:55,760
I don't wish him any harm,
just to be clear, but I also

1262
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:58,880
don't have any sympathy for him.
I mean, this guy, you know,

1263
01:42:59,079 --> 01:43:02,920
once a revere and respected US attorney, a federal prosecutor, and then

1264
01:43:03,079 --> 01:43:06,119
a mayor of New York City,
and and he was you know, he

1265
01:43:06,199 --> 01:43:12,439
was pretty you know strong, and
on nine to eleven he was mayor and

1266
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,079
he and he was governor when nine
to eleven happened, and you know,

1267
01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:18,680
he was and he was very he
projected a lot of optimism and confidence that

1268
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:23,199
the city would rebound, which is
what New York needed at that point.

1269
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,560
And look at him now, the
way, Well, he's deteriorated because he's

1270
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:34,560
um um screwed. Well, he's
just he's just this pathetic creature. He's

1271
01:43:35,279 --> 01:43:40,920
uh, it's it's sad to see
someone again. I don't have any sympathy

1272
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,640
for him, but it's sad to
see someone fall that far and just turn

1273
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,119
into sting. That is also a
possibility. What do you make is he

1274
01:43:48,359 --> 01:43:51,720
started to sound like up growing too, But I'm not right, that's true.

1275
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:59,319
You know that's true. So I
don't know. It's up of the

1276
01:43:59,399 --> 01:44:04,840
air when someone catches your rdiances right, all right, curious mind, want

1277
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:09,520
to know. Have a good evening, Tony. Of course, all right,

1278
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:12,359
Shannon, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Yeah right,

1279
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:15,039
all right, bye bye, all
right, always nice here from our

1280
01:44:15,079 --> 01:44:19,760
friend Shannon. We should remind you
because we're actually running out of time on

1281
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:25,479
today's program, of course, Tonight
I will be on the Doctor Kevin Show.

1282
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:28,239
Immediately following this show, I do
my monthly call into the Doctor Kevin

1283
01:44:28,319 --> 01:44:32,319
Show on the Home Times Radio network. So and we'll be talking about today's

1284
01:44:32,359 --> 01:44:36,439
events on there, I'm certain.
And don't forget trivia night tonight at the

1285
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:41,319
hopknot tomorrow. On the program,
we do have a musical guest. We

1286
01:44:41,439 --> 01:44:45,640
will not have a classic film review
this week. Eric is our friend Eric

1287
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,000
Pilcher, my favorite Conservatives. He's
got a lot going on, so he's

1288
01:44:48,039 --> 01:44:53,319
gonna take this week off, but
we do have a great musical guest skyping

1289
01:44:53,399 --> 01:44:58,319
in, I believe from Texas called
Pass the Ammunition. Well where else could

1290
01:44:58,359 --> 01:45:00,159
they be? From them Texas with
a name like at No, a really

1291
01:45:00,199 --> 01:45:02,399
good metal band though, I'm looking
forward to talking to them. So that

1292
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:06,880
will be, Uh, that will
be. And tomorrow in the second hour,

1293
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:13,279
I'm laughing because Melanie's just made a
comment in the chat room that's funny

1294
01:45:13,399 --> 01:45:18,479
that I shan't read on the air, but that is quite humorous. Yeah,

1295
01:45:18,600 --> 01:45:23,479
So lots going on, lots going
on, but also too, if

1296
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,840
you missed it earlier in the show, we made the announcement Jenny is confirmed.

1297
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:32,039
Democratic presidential candidate and author Mary Ann
Williamson will be here with us live

1298
01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:39,399
in studio on August eighteenth, So
we look we look forward to that.

1299
01:45:41,319 --> 01:45:45,760
Melanie says, big man baby tears. Yeah, I don't think he was.

1300
01:45:45,079 --> 01:45:47,640
I didn't see any tears running down
his face. The only thing I've

1301
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:53,279
ever seen running down Rudy Giuliani's face
is that black goop. That time he

1302
01:45:53,399 --> 01:45:59,920
was standing out in front of four
Seasons Landscaping and lawn Care, rambling nonsense,

1303
01:46:00,079 --> 01:46:05,840
sickly about all this evidence of election
fraud that none of which was real.

1304
01:46:08,319 --> 01:46:11,399
Tom Blanchard says, I wonder if
Trump told him what to do and

1305
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:15,880
say Jay fed says, Melanie is
making you giggle a lot, and with

1306
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:20,079
stuff you can't say. Yes.
That well, that is a common feature

1307
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:24,399
of the program. All right,
we're gonna go. I'm going to actually

1308
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:29,560
play I'm gonna play the track one
more time, the world radio premiere that

1309
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:33,920
we did today of the new song
from Jerry and the Scumbags. The song

1310
01:46:34,079 --> 01:46:41,000
is called Hipster Dipster. Actually,
we'll just play the song this time,

1311
01:46:41,079 --> 01:46:46,520
not the not the intro in the
beginning. Well, actually maybe we will.

1312
01:46:47,239 --> 01:46:49,920
Maybe we will play the whole We'll
play the intro as well. It

1313
01:46:50,079 --> 01:46:57,640
is funny him talking to mister b
his his producer. Yeah, we'll play

1314
01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:00,720
the whole thing. But yeah,
we gotta go. I have to get

1315
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,479
ready to call into the Doctor Kevin
Show. Thank you all so much.

1316
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,039
If you miss any part of today's
program, it will be up in just

1317
01:47:05,159 --> 01:47:11,199
a little bit at WMH radio dot
org and on my website Matt Connerton dot

1318
01:47:11,279 --> 01:47:15,960
com. And it's been a been
a historic day, that's for sure.

1319
01:47:15,439 --> 01:47:17,800
All right, thanks everybody. We'll
talk to y'all A little bit later,

1320
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,239
Jerry, I think it's time to
put another song on. We have to

1321
01:47:23,359 --> 01:47:27,680
if the people are asking for it. Mister B. You know I'll never

1322
01:47:28,279 --> 01:47:30,680
I'll never not listen to what you
have to say, you being my professional

1323
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:36,600
studio paduoser, of course. But
is it? Do we should we really

1324
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,960
put out another I mean that the
album is coming out, like you said,

1325
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:45,640
the n one out of previous videos, it's coming out soon. Do

1326
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,439
we do we really need the gift
them? I'm not the taste of the

1327
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:51,239
album. I mean, it's my
single. I'm demand not enough people are

1328
01:47:51,279 --> 01:47:55,520
asking for it. It's time they
want another one. I've been reading the

1329
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:59,600
comments. People say that they want
to hear more. But should I give

1330
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,079
them one now? Is a little
tip bit, a little delicious mussel?

1331
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,560
Or should I just hit them all
at once with the other eight or nine

1332
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:11,479
songs that we're working on? Give
them one now? Hipster Dipster? Absolutely,

1333
01:48:12,239 --> 01:48:16,720
you think that I should do Hipster
Dipster as the next song. That's

1334
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,720
one of the best on the album. You have to give him a taste,

1335
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:25,199
you know, mister B. I
do believe you're right. Hipster Dipster.

1336
01:48:25,399 --> 01:48:29,600
It's gonna be the next single.
It's coming to you and your air

1337
01:48:30,319 --> 01:48:32,680
your air waves. That dimss that
went up, that's I'm sorry, mister

1338
01:48:32,760 --> 01:48:36,800
b I didn't mean to embarrass myself
in front of your presence, but coming

1339
01:48:36,880 --> 01:49:23,039
to you live now right through the
airwaves. Hipster dipster, what's war with

1340
01:49:23,239 --> 01:49:29,359
I? Society? All the gains
to day are weak? Says It's like

1341
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:38,760
to call me the listening for Valente? Why can't ain't we morel be?

1342
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:48,119
I like to walk and don't you
say that name lay do Dame crow Cloud

1343
01:49:48,479 --> 01:49:53,600
is all the same. It seems
like God, I'll find your way unto

1344
01:49:53,680 --> 01:50:01,880
Manca. You say great again,
anser as when lose your radio can't ster

1345
01:50:02,399 --> 01:50:11,800
dister, They don't know real walking
woldster Dister. But your lot says,

1346
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:18,359
may get small hester Dister, But
send me do that soul sa soul show.

1347
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:50,239
What has the part of the stallscation
sitting in my sodo? Minkle's going

1348
01:50:50,560 --> 01:51:19,119
on my phone from some kids down
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