Welcome everybody. Here we go. It is that time again, Matt Connerton
Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five
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info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. Today is a Thursday, August
third, twenty twenty three. I couldn't decide whether to say August three or
August third, so it came out August third. It's just so you know,
that's the reason why I said it that way. I don't want anyone
to think I'm having a medical episode or something anyway. So there you go.
So we have a well quite a show for you. I suppose I'm
kind of keeping an eye on the NBC news feed. The arrangement is I
assume it's taking place now, is supposed to happen at four o'clock Eastern,
So we'll we'll talk about that today. Certainly, also coming up today at
five pm Eastern Time at the top of the hour. This is exciting Jerry
and the Scumbags the world radio premiere of their new single, Hipster Dipster,
and it's it's really good. I'm actually gonna plus this a little bit of
extra audio before the song too. This song is already available online, but
today is the world radio premiere of the song on FM radio. And I'm
very very excited about that. Jerry Robinson so talented, and of course he's
got Eric Pincher on guitar and Billy Painter on bass, and there's this guy,
mattso Covington. I'm sorry no, Billy Painter on drums, right,
yes, mattso Covington on bass and uh wow boy that guy, that mattso
Covington, what a bass player. Uh. That is coming up today at
five pm Hipster Dipster and it's really really good, very catchy. So I
think I think you'll enjoy it tremendously. Everyone loves Jerry Robinson. My dad
even loves Jerry Robinson, so he's he's just great. Um So, the
world radio premiere of the new track, Hipster Dipster coming up today at five
pm. And very very excited. We are not going to do going to
do Easyg's Entertainment report today. Today was supposed to be his big return for
that, but he messaged me before I even had a chance to say anything
to him about it, and he said, yeah, with kind of a
big newsday, maybe we save the report for another day. And I said,
yeah, that sounds good, Eric, because it is a little bit
of a big newsday, quite historic. A couple other things though, to
tell you about quickly before we get in everything. It is the first Thursday
of the month, which means that immediately following this show, I will be
doing my monthly call in to the Doctor Kevin Show. And the Doctor Kevin
Show airs online on the Omtimes Radio network omom as an ome so you can
go to omtimes dot com and click the link to listen live to the Doctor
Kevin Show. The first Thursday of every month, I joined Doctor Kevin and
we talk about no politics and current events. And I think I can guess
what will be speaking about this evening, so that will be immediately following this
show. As soon as I get off the air here, I grab my
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hour. So for those of you, if you get to the end of
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and says an all new shower time with DJ Steve tomorrow night, eight pm
Eastern. Oh, we look forward to that. Yes, shower time with
DJ Steve just soon in It's It's good. You'll you'll enjoy it, I
promise. Isaac Banks is in the Facebook lave chat and says good afternoon.
Hashtag Matt good afternoon. Robert Moore and Annabelle lore La w Are Jenny is
in the chat and says shalom, peeps, let's see Isaac Banks saying all
kinds of stuff. Now I have a little bit of I have something interesting,
interesting thing here, Isaac Banks. I received. Now I'm not going
to identify because I don't know how he'd feel about it. I'm not going
to identify the individual who sent me this, but I will just say I
will just share this with you. I received a Facebook message today that says
this, you may want to ban Isaac Banks and any of his we say
logins from your live cast chat. I just got a scam solicitation from him
m and sent me a screenshot of the solicitation. So I'm just telling you,
hashtag Isaac I'm I'm aware of this. I'm not gonna ban you,
not yet. I appreciate your interaction in the show, but well, I
saw that screenshot and I said that it's not good. That's not good,
all right? Six three two five, six seven is the number? Six
seven, Isaac Banks says, hashtag Matt Connerton. They are good friends of
mine. Let's check in quickly here with the NBC news feed, and the
evidence of that so far is that those electors have been indicted by the state
of Michigan. But look for the defense to frame the false electors as alternate
electors. You might hear people talking about nineteen sixty in Hawaii where Kennedy's electors
had a ceremonial type submission, but that was under a court ordered recount,
and the argument there would be that there the issue was much more in doubt.
So therefore, um what he's talking about. So a big part of
the obviously is this thing with the fake electors, setting up fake electors.
Now, if I understand this correctly, and there's this is particularly interesting to
me. I don't know who the gentleman is who's talking again, that's the
live feed from NBC News right now. You know, it's it's a pretty
historic day. Obviously, we've never seen anything quite like this. But the
former Trump attorney who is now I don't know if he officially works for MSNBC,
but he's on there quite a bit. Let me see if I can
find this quickly. So I was in the car earlier. His name's Joe
per Laconi or per lacon or something pertacon He was talking about how he was
explaining, essentially, he was defending the fake elector scam, saying that it's
actually there's no He was on with Andrea Mitchell and he was saying, there's
actually it will be very difficult for the prosecution to prove that there's any problem
with the fake electors because it's actually normal to have all electors in case something
happens to the primary electors or something like that. It was it was an
interesting I mean, I wasn't buying it, but it was a very interesting
argument that he was making. I'm gonna try to find that quickly if I
can, because I did think it was intriguing. DJ Steves in the Facebook
live chat and says, good afternoon everyone. I can only imagine what Paul's
got up his sleeve. Yes, let's see. I'm gonna see if I
can find this quickly by former Trump attorney, because I did think this was
interesting. The other thing that's particularly fascinating to me that I want to look
at today is Mike Pence, the former Vice president, of course, might
actually end up testifying. In fact, I think it's quite likely is going
to end up testifying in this trial against Trump. And that's first of all,
obviously, well look, all of this is unprecedented. But oh is
he arriving at the court. I see a lot of activity here. There's
Democrats right, they go, they sign certificates, send them off to Congress
sendment of the archives to say this is who our state has picked. These
are where you know, let's stick with us for a minute, because she's
talking about the same thing I was just talking about. Hinges on that there
essentially that the wrong party right in states that the Democrat Joe Biden wont the
wrong party the Republicans tried to send a fake they made fake certificates in many
disinstances and send that off to say, no, look this is what we
think. You know, this is we want to complicate the issue. Why
Ultimately the thinking seemed to be to pressure then Vice President Mike pens to say,
well, look, I don't know, I mean, we have an
issue. Maybe mister jump interrupted is a second our pony express type reporting from
the courtroom tells us that the former president is being sworn in right now,
so that hearing is underway. We should hear more here piecemeal, and we'll
keep bringing to you. I do want to ask at check Rosenberg the fact
that the former president is still making those claims. I believe as recently as
today that the twenty twenty election was fraudulent. Okay, Um, I'm having
trouble finding the Yeah, I'm having trouble finding exactly what I was just talking
about with that former Trump's former lawyer. Um, I'll see if I can
find it when we take our break at the top of the hour. But
Um, Effectively, he was saying that there's there's nothing unusual about having alternate
electors just in case and when Andrea Mitchell pushed back on that and said,
well, okay, but they these false electors. The reason they signed these
certificates and did everything that they were doing was they were trying to commit an
act of fraud because there was a larger plan here where the vice president Mike
Pence, if he were to if he had cave to the pressure that he
was under by Trump, had he caved to that pressure, he could have
said, in theory, this is how the theory goes. He could have
said, Okay, I'm not accepting these electors I'm going to accept these alternate
electors instead. Now, the former Trump attorney, I wish is it Joe
Perlocone. I feel like it might be Perlocone. I've seen a lot of
the guy, and yet I am struggling with his last name. Um.
He said that, well you can't. He said, it's a very high
bar for the prosecution to prove that they were actually attempting any sort of fraud,
because again, it's not unusual to have he said that, or he
said, there's nothing illegitimate about having almost said having false electors, but obviously
that's not what he would say. There was. There's nothing illegitimate about having
potential alternate electors. Um. The problem is though, that's just it's that's
a tough one to swallow, isn't it? Um? Why else was this
being coordinated? Uh? In all of these uh? In all of these
different states. Now, Jenny just sent me something, a feed, a
YouTube feed from inside the courtroom. They're reporting from inside the courtroom. Let's
see, because NBC News just reported on their feed that the Trump was being
sworn in right now? Rick Smith says, who watched the Barbie movie?
Is it good for guys? I have not seen the Barbie movie, not
particularly interested in it, not because I have anything against it. I'm not
a conservative, so I'm not angry at the Barbie movie. Apparently a lot
of conservatives. I think that the Barbie movie is Chinese propaganda. And uh,
I guess because maybe Ken dolls are not anatomically correct. It's like pro
trans or something whatever, crazy stuff. Ben Shapiro says about it, but
I've seen it. Scott Robinson says, good afternoon, my fellow Connor.
Tonight's since today is Thursday, will there be an entertainment report? Uh?
No, easyg It was his suggestion. Actually, he said he'd like to
I'll do it another day because obviously today is a big newsday. Let's check
out this feed that Jenny sent me. Very likely some of those issues resolved
in Judge Chukins courtroom, because she's presided over many of these January six cases
already, right the first ruling there. Then they go to the appellate court
in particular sort of a definition of how high a standard is there for obstruction
of a proceeding. I think that's very important. But look, you know
the defense is going to be arguing, as Asha said, a whole lot
of different kinds of it seems to be. I'll leave that running in the
background too, but it seems to be the same as I mean, I
don't think they know anything different than what the what they know on NBC.
Let's see if you're just joining us here on Matt Connerton unleashed a little bit
of an unconventional thing I'm doing here today on the program. But I've kind
of got these different news feeds open and watching them, kind of keeping an
eye on them only because obviously it's a historic moment, a former president on
his third indictment in Washington, DC. So this is something that we've never
seen before, but to kind of circle back to the other thing, and
again if I can find more information about the I think his name is Joe
perlcone. What he was saying, I'll go back to that. His defense
was interesting, but we also might see again as this is so unprecedented former
Vice president Mike Pence testifying against his former boss, and because he shows up
a lot in this indictment, right, and apparently he took contemporaneous notes on
everything as he was being pressured to throw out the election results instead of doing
his constitutional duty on January six, and I though, goodness he held firm.
But um, it's also just interesting because not only was he Trump's vice
president, but he's also Trump's political opponent in the quest for the Republican nomination.
Let's see Isaac Banks says, mister Jason Federson. Oh, this is
directed to Jay fed Mister Jason Feederson. My brother Mike Banks is a rapper
and he makes beats. My brother Mike Banks never sleeps in my bed.
He just used the bathroom. Is my brother? You mean? You say
not? They from R Dell five. Well, I hope he explained everything
to you sufficiently there, Jay Fed Now now you understand the situation and the
family dynamics and his brother Mike Banks not sleeping in his bed and so forth.
Jenny says, I have a reporter in there. I guess the arraignment
is under way. They are talking and they are reporting what is going on
in the courtroom. Yeah, we can check this, you know. I
think it's important to distinguish from the political defenses, which are you know,
they're just they're just out together. That's Dan Abram's talking, that's the ABC
News feed. Is an interesting argument, this idea that they're trying to interfere
in the election, and yet all we ever see every time an indictment happens
is Donald Trump go up in the polls. At the judge's request. Just
moments ago, Donald Trump offered his full name in court, saying, yes,
your honor, Donald J. Trump. John. He also gave his
age in court seventy seven. The judges. Now we are told reading the
charges to the former president Donald Trump. Again, this is where it starts
to come into focus, just the historic nature of what it is we're watching
unfold. And John, you and I look to each other when we heard
how long the former president had been left to wait for the federal magistrate.
Again, this is the judge, at least in this initial phase who's presiding
before it turns over to Judge TOMMYA. Chutkin in the future. But just
the idea of the former president sitting there waiting has to spell out his name,
confirm his name, confirm his age seventy seven. That's also a very
harsh reminder to the former president himself that this is serious. He had to
sit at that table for twenty minutes, David, He had to sit at
that table for twenty minutes waiting for somebody else. Donald Trump never waits for
anything. He's always the biggest guy in the room. He comes in and
everybody's waiting until he gets there and it's let's go. He had to wait
for twenty minutes. And then, of course the familiar call we hear every
time we're in a courtroom and the judge comes in, all rise. Donald
Trump, like everybody else in that courtroom, had to stand up and you
know, give deference to that judge. And remember, he's not free to
leave. He is he's not in handcuffs, but he's under arrest. He
has to be there for this arrangement. The judge just advised the former president
of the penalties he could face if convicted Count one, the judge said,
up to five years in prison. Count two up to twenty years in prison.
Count three up to twenty years in prison. Count four up to ten
years in prison. The former president, Donald Trump, according to our reporter
in the room, was leaning forward in his chair, listening intently to the
judge as she went down the list of each count and the potential time in
prison that someone convicted of that count could face. The judge also read Donald
trump As rights in connection to this case and asked if he understands those rights
again, Pierre Thomas, this is the kind of moment that reinforces really the
weight of what it is we're reporting on here today, David. There's always
that pregnant moment in a courthouse when a defendant walks in and insists before a
magistrate or judge when it charges are read. Yeah, Jenny was right.
This feed is better because they seem to have somebody inside the courtroom. Although
now I think, what's NBC News doing here this email? In reality,
you're not after me, they're after you, Okay, talking about the fundraising.
Yeah, that's That's the thing though, I mean, you know,
this is, as I've often talked about on the show. Trump has worked
himself into a place where this does actually help him. He's in a no
lose proposition. I mean, I'm sure on some level it must be very
frightening to be going through this, and this is his third indictment, and
you know, the consequences of this could be pretty awful, clearly, right,
But he continues to rise in the polls in the Republican Party. The
more legal trouble he gets into, the more it piles on, the more
it stacks up, the more money he raises, and the more it reaffirms
that he will be And I stand by my prediction. Our own governor here
in New Hampshire, Governor Chris Sinunu, he has said all along there is
no way Trump will be the nominee he is. He has said that.
He says that over and over, and you know he likes to I mean,
he's he's on the news. He's on cable news almost as much as
Chris Christie m He's become a popular figure. And you know, and he's
not running for reelection here in New Hampshire. He's become. I mean,
he's popular figure here. He always easily wins. He probably could easily win
reelection should he run again, but he's not. He's moving on. But
you know, it wouldn't surprise me to see him as an analyst at on
one of these cable news channels in the future. But he always he's very
critical of Trump, and not quite as critical as Chris Christie, but he's
pretty critical of him. And he has said right along that there is no
possibility of Trump actually being the nominee. He doesn't make so much a legal
argument though, he kind of makes more of an argument of He says,
Look, he's you know, he's a he's a loser. That's his term,
not mine. He says, you know, he lost the twenty twenty
election. He lost, he lost the House, Republican control of the House.
He you know, he endorses candidates and they lose, which isn't always
the case. But you know, he's a drag on the party, et
cetera. So um, But I but I think he's wrong. I think
Governor Sanunu is absolutely wrong. I think, uh, I don't. I
don't know what kind of math he's doing. And listen, I'm not good
at math myself. But uh, Trump's strength among Republicans is growing, not
decreasing. Um, He's miles ahead of his next closest rival, which is
uh uh round sanctimonious and um, and there's no chance to Santis is ever
gonna catch up. I mean to Santis is actually failing. And and everybody
else in the field, well, okay, I mean, obviously you've got
a few people who are willing to go directly at Trump, like Christ like
Asa Hutchinson, not quite as much but still of course a former Texas Congressman
Will Hurd, you know, and Mike Pence is kind of in a position
where you know, he kind of has to has to go at him,
right. But um, but then you've got these other candidates in the field
that are just so terrified to say anything critical of Trump, including Ran de
Santis, who continues to try to play this game of on one hand,
obviously he's Trump's political rival for the nomination, but at the same time he's
like, oh, this is all just political prosecute. The most ridiculous thing
was when somebody asked him about January sixth, I think it was at a
campaign event, and he said, well, Look, you know, I
wasn't there, and the President probably should have leaned in more, but you
know, I wasn't there, so I really don't know much about it.
It's like, oh, my god, de Santis is just horrible, horrible
candidate. I'm not even talking about his politics. I'm just saying as a
candidate, he really is terrible. It's no wonder that apparently a lot of
donors are running away from him and going to Tim Scott. But so you've
got these candidates, though, the ones who are not directly criticizing him,
who are like walking on eggshells because either they know they're not going to be
the nominee and they want to be his veep, or because they think that
Trump is going to go down and they want to be there to pick up
the pieces by not alienate, not alienating any of his supporters, by continuing
to defend Trump. So you've got you've got you know all this. I
mean, Trump is firmly in control of this entire process. Rono Favarro joins
us in the Facebook litchat and says hello from California. Jenny says he's being
released under the conditions he can't break any more. Laws federal or state,
must be in court for everything. He's not to talk to anyone about the
case who is a witness. Yeah, let's seeing that are watching this a
real time. That the prosecution and the defense have agreed on several conditions.
One, Donald Trump must not violate any other federal or state laws. Two,
Donald Trump must appear in court as required. Obviously will be yet to
see a calendar on this case. David Trump must sign an appearance for bond.
And as one of the prosecutors put it, he must not quote,
communicate about the facts of the case with anyone Trump knows to be a witness
except through counsel or in presence of counsel and David. That one is duplicative
to the other case that was brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith, the Document
Retention case. Witnesses that are involved in that case cannot talk about the case
with Trump. We see here in this case now on the efforts to overturn
the twenty twenty election, same thing. Donald Trump cannot talk to any other
witnesses that are known to him and his lawyers. And that is obviously,
as we talked about David several weeks ago. Here with you. That's going
to be a problem for Donald Trump, because the one thing we all know
Donald Trump likes to do is talk about his current situation. He talks about
these cases, talks about what could be next. How is this playing for
me? It's a phrase we have heard many, many times over the years
from Donald Trump, that one in particular, David, that is going to
be a problem for Donald Trump. But if he wants to avoid any further
issues, he's gonna have to stick to it. So as a foreign example,
Dan abrahams, if Donald Trump wanted to talk to Mark Meadows, let's
say he can only do it through counsel, or in the presence of counsel,
can't pick up the phone call Mark Meadows to talk about anything related to
the case. That is not surprising, right, not surprising. But remember
that you still have to get caught, right, I mean, you know,
I mean I hate to yeah, as if it so cavalier, because
it's not. But you know, these are the sorts of orders that happen
that as long as someone doesn't report it, as long as he doesn't say
it in public, as long as the witness is still on the same page
with Donald Trump, no one's really going to know about it. But with
that said, when it comes to some of the witnesses who are not currently
you know, at Mara Lago all the time, people who he's not regularly
talking with, it's a clear statement from the court you better not engage in
any witness tampering, and even more than that, you just better not talk
to them about it at all. I mean think about it. In a
trial, very often witnesses aren't even allowed to sit in the courtroom when other
people are testifying because they don't want it to impact their testimony. Right,
So, witnesses are often asked to leave the courtroom or not allowed to watch
the proceedings because they don't want the proceedings to influence their possible testimony. You
have a similar issue here, which is decide even witness tampering. You just
don't want witnesses improperly influenced based on conversations about the case. We're just hearing
Dan. That a hearing before Judge Tanya Chutkin, who is the judge who
will take over the case from here. The Obama appointed judge who has overseen
a number of January six cases, had handed out a number of stiff sentences
to people involved. The January sixth, she will preside over the trial.
The hearing is scheduled for August twenty eighth, ten AM, so the end
of this month, the latest of three dates offered as options. So again
the magistrate overseeing today's hearing, the latest date of the three dates offered as
options from prosecutors was selected. Prosecutors had wanted the hearing to be earlier,
but again the next date key date omnis calendar August twenty eighth, five days
after the Republican debate in Milwaukee, the first Republican Debate, which again we
don't know if Donald Trump is going to decide to show. Yeah, I
wouldn't. I wouldn't expect he would be at this particular hearing. Um,
you know this is this is going to be a first motions hearing etcetera,
to set schedules, etcetera. So you know, I don't I don't expect
that Donald Trump would be at this particular Well we hear that here at that
hearing when the proposed trial date would be. Yeah, they may have discussions
about it, but any proposed trial date in a case like this I think
is fake at this point it's a target date, it's a hope, it's
a wish, and it's going to totally depend Okay, so uh yeah,
so that's newsworthy. So that's when the next hearing will be August twenty eighth.
So um, but as Dan Abrams was saying on the ABC News feed
that you know, things get things get pushed back. Um, Mark Meadows
was mentioned. Now, Mark Meadows, of course, was the White House
Chief of staff at the time the Jan six happened. And Mark Meadows we
haven't heard much from. But Chris Christie had speculated that Mark Meadows might be
a cooperating witness and that's why we're not hearing much from him publicly. Radar
Online has an exclusive. It says Mark Meadows flipped on Trump one time White
House chief of staff, turned against xboss prior to explosive Jan six indictment,
provided Feds with evidence. Let's see. Now, there's been a lot of
speculation about this, but Radar Online seems to think they have the scoop here.
Let's look at this. Mark Meadows, the final White House chief of
staff under Donald Trump, agreed to testify against his one time boss in a
secret deal with federal prosecutors. Radar online dot Com has been told in a
blockbuster exclusive, we can reveal that Meadows was a key witness in the federal
grand jury convened by Special Counsel Jack Smith, whose office handed down a historic
four account indictment earlier this week. Trump will make his first court appearance to
defend himself in the explosive charges on Thursday. That's today, of course.
A source connected to the case told Radar online dot com quote, the fact
Meadows is not being discussed as a co conspirator is telling in itself. That
is all but proof that Meadows took some sort of deal with Smith to either
testify under the protection of immunity or that he acted as a cooperating witness unquote.
The case insider added, quote, when a witness is called to testify
before a grand jury, the individual can refuse to testify on the ground that
his testimony will incriminate him. But it's almost impossible to think Meadows might invoke
his Fifth Amendment right. Therefore, Smith had three options, challenge the privilege
and call Meadows, waive his appearance, or consider a grant of immunity.
The most plausible option here, given what we know, that Meadows did not.
That Meadows did indeed testify is option three. That is, Meadows flipped
and turned against Trump unquote. The source added, Meadows did not hatch a
plea agreement with prosecutors and had been previously as had been previously claimed. In
June, an attorney for Meadows vigorously denied a report from the Independent that Meadows
had entered guilty please to quote unspecified federal crimes unquote, calling it complete bs.
The Radar Online source said, quote Meadows did not plead guilty never.
It is a misnomer to think he needed to plead to something in order to
get some form of immunity unquote. By the way, that's a misuse of
the term. Misnomer's pointing that out. I'm nitpicky about these things. Let's
see, becoming a witness against the former president is a stunning betrayal quote unquote
from the man who Trump handpicked to replace Mick Mulvaney as chief of staff.
In March twenty twenty, a Trump insider told Radar Online. The source said,
quote Marcus considered a rat amongst team. Try to Trump Mark Meadows is
like what Sammy the Bull Gravano was to John Gotti. Trump believes Mark is
a turncoat. He feels betrayed unque. The New York Times first reported that
Meadows, a former North Carolina congressman, testified before the grand jury. The
outlet described him as quote a potentially key witness. The Times reported at the
beginning of June. Quote For months, people in mister Trump's orbit orbit have
been puzzled by and wary about the low profile kept by mister Meadows in the
investigations. As reports surface of one witness after another going into the grand jury
or to be interviewed by federal investigators. Mister Meadows has kept largely out of
sight, and some of mister Trump's advisors believe he could be a significant witness
in the inquiries. Mister Trump himself has at times asked aids questions about how
mister Meadows is doing unquote. The newspaper added, citing a person familiar with
the remarks. Trump was officially indicted on felony charges. Okay, we know
all that, So there you go. So we'll see. I have a
feeling we're going to find out. I have a feeling we're going to find
out soon, Jenny says in the chat. The first Goop debate is August
twenty three. By the way, I didn't realize they were talking about that.
I didn't realize it was in Milwaukee. I thought that I just I
guess I just assumed the first debate would be in Iowa, since that's where
the first primaria is. Obviously. Now Politico dot com we'll go to this
too, because we were talking about Mike Pence. Politico has a this just
went up. Trump's indictment for jan six turns Mike Pence into a litmus test.
The former vice president stood biased criticism of Trump yesterday and called his former
boss former boss's one time lawyers crackpots. Now that's kind of been That's not
unusual, though, as somebody on the NBC newsfeed was saying earlier that,
oh wow, Pence is really getting salty. We don't usually hear that kind
of language from him. M Yeah, I mean, he's gradually. It's
it's been so interesting to watch Mike Pence because he very sort of gradually wades
into that water of being critical of Trump. But but again, you know,
he doesn't want to upset He doesn't want to upset Maga, so he
tries to he does this thing where and he's really still doing it where he
blames it on the lawyers. You know, So whenever somebody says to Mike
Pence in an interview, well, you know, do you blame Trump for
for all of this? You blame Trump for, you know, spreading these
election lies in January six and everything. And Pence's standard answer is some variation
of well, I don't think it's I don't think it's illegal to get to
be given bad legal advice. So he blames the lawyers. Now, there
is a principle in law, and I forget what the actual name is for
this principle. It's probably Latin. I do know that there is a principle
in law that, yes, you can argue that you were given bad advice
by your attorneys and try to use that as a justification or a way to
get out of trouble for what you've done that has been done. Well,
I was given bad legal advice. If i'd been if I had had competent
legal representation, I wouldn't have done what I did. It's probably pretty flimsy,
and I don't think that defense would work here, right, But but
that seems to me that's how Pence sort of, you know, plays that
game of well, you know, I don't like what happened on January six,
you know, and I had to stand my ground and fulfill my constitutional
duty. And again, good for him, that's good. But but then
he's, you know, he wants to blame anybody but Trump. He doesn't
want to blame Trump directly because he doesn't want Maga upset with him. So
he's like, oh, you know, he got bad legal advice. They
were his lawyers were crackpots, which is true. I mean, you look
at this crew, right, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, John Eastman,
Jenna Ellis. Yeah, they do seem like crackpots. That's one way of
putting it. I suppose they do all see him a little nuts. But
let's look at this and then then at the top of the hour, we
have the world radio premiere of the new Jerry and the Scumbags song Hipster Dipster.
Really looking forward to that. But let's look at this again. This
is from Politico. For much of the first fifty four days of his presidential
campaign, Mike Pence has been relegated to the contests lower tier, fighting for
scraps in single digit polls. At a crowded table featuring Donald Trump and Ronda
Santis on Day fifty five, the former vice president took the main stage.
The indictment of Trump by Special counsel Jack Smith for his efforts to undermine the
twenty twenty election placed a sharper focus on Pence's actions leading up to and on
jan six, including the revelation that he kept contemporaneous notes. It also elevated
the idea that Pence himself would be a litmus test for the rest of the
field. Would they have made a different decision that day. Speaking of reporters
on Wednesday yesterday, Pence showed no regrets or equivocations. In the hours after
Smith unveiled his indictment, Pence said this quote, with regard to the substance
of the indictment, I've been very clear. I had hoped it wouldn't come
to that. I had hoped that this issue and the judgment of the President's
actions that day would be left to the American people. But now it's been
brought in a criminal indictment. Quote, So he's still gonna you know,
he's he's you know, it's it just amazes me. I mean, if
you're a regular listener, you've already heard my Mike Pence rants. You know,
he he'll he does this. I mean, I'm sorry, I just
I find it sad. He'll do this thing where, you know, in
one breath he'll acknowledge that the actions and the words of Trump on that day
directly put him and his family, his family, his wife and his daughter's
in danger, put them in danger. And then but it's like, yeah,
you know, he put us in danger and this is so terrible.
Ah, but hey, who could be mad at the guy? Really?
Right? Oh? I just love him so much, you know, it's
really remarkable. Yeah, you know, he could have he could have gotten
my family and I killed by those riders that day, you know, when
the they had already begun to overrun the Capitol, and he's tweeting out,
you know, Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do the right thing as
they're chanting, hang Mike Pence. Yeah, pretty reckless and dangerous and h
you know, my my wife and my daughters were with me and they could
have been harmed, and that's all. That's all pretty terrible. Ah.
But but come on, I mean, it's President Trump. He's so awesome.
I just I can't hold a grudge. Sometimes I wish I could just
go up to him and just squeezes, squeeze his big orange cheeks and just
say, oh, mister former Vice President Trump, I just love you so
much, and you did a bad thing that day, but oh, I
just god, You're just so awesome. I mean, it really is.
It's it's I just find it's sad. You know again, I'm glad he
showed courage on January sixth, and that's great. But I just tell you,
what, you ever put my family in danger, if you were to
put anybody, if you were to put Jenny in danger, or anybody in
my family in danger, anybody that I love in danger, The last thing
I would ever do is go out and publicly humiliate myself and emasculate myself over
and over by saying nice things about you after you did that. That's the
last thing I would do. It's so bizarre to watch him, and he
gets so he gets so uncomfortable too, whenever he's I saw this and that
that last CNN town hall when uh oh, who was it who was asking
him the questions? Was it Jake Tapper? Or was it Caitlin Collins anyway,
Uh, because I think he's done a couple of him now right.
Um, you know, whenever he gets into a situation where he's um,
he's being asked a question where it's it's really hard, it's getting difficult for
him to defend Trump, who, by the way, is his political opponent
for the nomination. But but he just doesn't want to say anything too damning
either, and he gets he gets visibly nervous, like he starts shaking,
and he starts shifting in his seat, Like, dude, the guy put
your wife and your daughters in danger, be a man, for God's sake,
show just the tiniest bit, just a little Can we just see a
little, just brief flash of some sort of degree of anger from you,
something that shows that, I mean, because otherwise I don't know how your
wife and your daughters can even look at you. You're so just like,
well, you know, he put he put my family in danger. But
ah, but he got bad advice from lawyers. It's not his fault.
It's like, oh my god, what what I mean is he just he
may thought he might not be fully human. He may he might not be
capable of actual human emotion. Maybe that's the problem. He's just such an
empty husk of a man that he can't even uh muster the anger. You
know. He's he's, he's He'll always be a little bit disappointed, certainly
with President Trump over that, but he'll never actually be angry with him,
you know, if for putting his family in jeopardy. Karen Cuban is on
the line. Hello, Karen, haven't heard from you in a while.
Karen, are you there? I am here. I finally you finally came
through. You were breaking up. Oh hey, how you doing. Haven't
heard from you in a long time. I'm doing fine, Thank you.
I listened to the show. I just haven't been calling. But I have
a question for you about today's indictment. Yes, the judge that is in
charge of this case actually has passed down some stiff sentences towards January sixth.
Yeah, do you think he's more likely to get a guilty sentence from her?
Well, it's ultimately up to the jury, but I mean as far
as um, as far as the verdict. But yes, I do think,
um, yes, I do think this judge is going to be tough
and uh and and it could be a very stiff sentence if he has found
guilty. Absolutely, because you're right, this judge has been pretty tough on
the I call him insurrectionists. Uh not everyone agrees with the use of that
term. I stand by it. I say that that was an insurrection um
and uh yeah, and and and good for the judge for being tough,
uh in my opinion, in my opinion, Um, so yeah, I
do think uh yes, I do think it could be a harsh sentence.
You know, that's assuming any of this ever. I mean, look,
if Trump does manage to get reelected, which is possible, it's very possible
this all goes away. You know, he'll he'll he'll tell the DJ that's
it, uh, drop everything, and he'll he'll pardon himself and and that'll
be it. So you know, who knows if this will ever even get
to actually get to trial, you know, and there's going to be a
lot of delays along the way. But but no, if it if it
gets if it does get to that point where uh uh, he's you know,
he goes through a trial and he's found guilty. Yeah, I think
he's looking at a tough sentence probably. I hope so, but and I
have two other questions. The one, why don't they make him surrender his
passport. Oh, he's not a he's not a flight risk. I mean,
they could do that. But he's not going anywhere. He's he's running
for president. He's not gonna he's not gonna Where's he gonna go. He's
not gonna leave. You don't think so he looks like he's going to lose
in court, you don't think he would take off? No, No,
he won't. No, he's not going anywhere. No, he's he's uh,
he's running for president. He's not going anywhere, even even if it
looks like, I mean, he may expect to lose, you know.
Uh, they don't usually bring From what I understand, and I didn't even
realize this until recently, but most federal cases, I think it's around ninety
percent of federal cases that are brought by the Department of Justice, um never
go to trial because they ninety percent of the time they end up in a
plea deal and then the other ten percent, most of the time, they
end up with a guilty verdict. So, um, they're so good at
at getting at convicting, at convicting at convicting people that they usually don't even
get to trial. You know, his lawyers might tell him. Trump's lawyers
might even tell him at some point, hey, we should really think about
pleading this out. This doesn't look good. Who knows, but he won't
do it. He'll no, he's not gonna do it. I mean,
that would look that. That might be the one thing that really Rex's campaign
if he started pleading out, Although even if he did that, he'd probably
just say, well, I had to. You know, they put me
in a in a no win position, and I can't be I can't be
your president from jail. So if you want me to make America great again
and take another shot at putting Hillary Clinton in prison or whatever, then you
know I had to. I had to take the plea just so I could
stay out of jail. You know, I don't know who knows now his
family in one of a plea deals, they can't do any as far as
charity things in New York. Could a plea deal like pound him out of
ever running for president again? Ah? Probably not. I don't. I
don't think so, because even if that were presented to him, I think
he would just I think he would reject that. I think he'd rather risk
a conviction and potentially even end up in jail. I mean he can run,
Hell, he could in theory. I mean he can run for president
from jail. It's been done. I remember when I was a kid,
Lyndon LaRouche would run from prison every year. He'd be on the ballot here
in New Hampshire. You know you can do it. So no, I
don't think. Um. I mean, I guess you could put that in
a plea deal, right, but I don't think he would accept it.
I don't think there's any chance. I don't think they would even try because
they know he wouldn't accept it. I didn't know a convicted if a convicted
seven could run for president. Yes, there is nothing uh stopping him.
Yeah, you can be a convicted felon and still run for president, still
be elected. Um. Yeah, the qualifications for presidential candidate are there's not
many of them. You know, you gotta be thirty five, you gotta
be a natural born American citizen. Um. There's one other thing, right,
I think there's three basic things. I feel like I'm forgetting something,
but yeah, you can be unity. What's that sanity? They should be
yes, No, what fun would that be? Um no, uh no,
but no, there's there's nothing preventing him from Uh And by the way,
uh that that happens more than people realize. For example, Attorney General
Ken Paxton in Texas. Uh, he's been elected to Attorney general while I
don't know if he had been convicted of anything, but while under indictment,
he run and was elected. And you know, his legal problems have never
affected him, well until recently, of course it finally caught up with him.
But yeah, that happens more than people realize. Felons when office and
you know, never the presidency before, but there's the first time for everything.
We'll see. That's true. It just doesn't seem like it, you
know, is a good representation of the United States. To let selons run
for office, especially if Trump gets indicted in foul guilty and could be a
president, makes no sense. Well, we're in a some sort of weird
alternate universe, Karen, and we have been for a while. I think
that's true. One other thing is I was watching some of the news reporters
in if Trump decides to do the debate, he can't do it, Penches.
There is that not right because Tense might be a witness. Oh that's
interesting. Um, No, I don't. I don't think it matters.
They just can't. I mean, you raise an interesting point, because that
was one of the things one of the instructions from the judge was he can't
talk to any witnesses. But I don't know if he can't. I need
to get some clarification on that, Karen, because I'm not sure. Was
it that he can't talk to any other witnesses period or he just can't talk
about the case? Um? And if so, but even if he can't
talk to any other witnesses period, he can still they can still both be
at the debate, just not talk to each other. I mean, they
might address each other directly during the debate, but no, no conversations away
from that. Um, certainly, but I don't get in. Yeah,
but the January six would be brought up in any debate. So if they're
both there, one might be a witness and then Trump's the other one,
then he can't answer anything, could he. You're right, actually, Karen,
You're right, that's a really good point. Yeah, January sixth is
gonna come up during the debate. So yeah, You're right, Karen,
that is a conundrum, isn't it. So I'm not sure. I mean,
I mean, Trump's not going to be there anyway. He's already said
he's not going to be there. And I will say this from a just
a political standpoint, I think he's right to not want to show up to
these debates. I mean, why should he. You know, he's he's
up. Jeez, I saw a pole. He's at like thirty seven percent
and I think De Santis is in the single digits and that's the next closest
candidate. He's got no reason to He has nothing to gain from showing up
at these debates. He is so far ahead. And I'm still convinced he's
absolutely going to be the nominee, that he's so far ahead that there's there
is no reason for him to be there accepted ego. He has such a
big ego. I can't see him not wanting to, like, you know,
insult everybody up there. Yeah. True, And that was that's Chris
Christie's argument. Two. That's that Chris Christie keeps saying that Trump will be
there because of his ego. The thing is, though history tells us he's
not afraid to skip out and then do something, do something else, like
have a big rally while the debates going on. He's done it a couple
of times. He did it during the twenty sixteen primary season. If you
remember, there was one of the Republican debates that he was not at.
I don't remember what the dispute was, but he found something to be mad
about and he said, I'm not showing up for this debate, and he
didn't. And then, of course one of the presidential debates in twenty twenty,
we usually get three, we only got two between Trump and Biden.
There was one of them. He didn't like the rules, he said,
I refused to participate. He had a big rally instead, and the debate
didn't happen. So he's not afraid to just skip it. That's true.
That's true. He'll be on one of his news programs during the debate,
is like giving his opinion. Yeah. I think what he'll do is he'll
just have a big rally somewhere whenever there's a debate, He'll just have a
big rally somewhere to kind of compete with it. And uh, and that'll
be what he what he does. That'll be how he deals with it.
Well, this will be interesting. I mean, the United States is like
unbelievable. I never thought it would come to this in my lifetime and it
has. And I just it's unbelievable what's going on right now. It really
is. I never would have imagined any of this either. It's it's wild.
We live in interesting times, that's for sure. Well, we'll just
cast you. I'll have to keep my fingers cross and he's found guilty of
something anything that keeps the mind of the White House. Yeah, I don't
know. I don't know, Karen, keep your keep your fingers crossed.
But h I don't know. I mean, you know. And I said
on the show, I think it was yesterday. I was saying, while
all of these legal problems, it further reinforces my belief that he will be
the nominee because the more legal trouble he's in there, his donations increase,
his campaign donations, and he goes up in the polls, more and more
Republicans support him. But it makes him it makes him more likely to be
the nominee, but it also makes him a worse a worse general election candidate.
But I was saying on the show earlier this week, at some point
I said, all it's gonna take for him to win is for something to
happen to Biden. So and I don't even mean necessarily Biden starts falling down
on a more regular basis or anything like that. But what if Biden,
who's this about the same age as Mitch McConnell. What if Biden has a
Mitch McConnell moment, say during a speech or during a debate, say he's
debating Trump, and something like that happens to Biden, it's over. Trump
wins if that happens. I absolutely believe that Trump wins. If what happened
to Mitch McConnell happens to Bide in public, Trump wins this election. So
oh yeah, easily. That's why I say Biden is selfish. Biden absolutely
should not be running for a second term. You know, we can we
can talk about his record and the good and the bad and all of that,
and we can argue about all of that. But whether you whether you
like him don't like him, you have ambivalence. He should not be seeking
a second term, and he is selfish for doing so. In my opinion,
Yeah, I agree with you there. I don't think he should.
And if it goes to the general election, and it is I was talking
to Darryl. If it goes between Trump and Biden, I'll vote for President
Biden just because of who Trump is. But I wouldn't be voting for him
if there was somebody else. Do you know what I mean? Did you
hear what Bill Barr said this week? He said somebody asked him, you
know, who would he vote for in twenty twenty, assuming Trump is the
nominee, And he said, I'll jump off that bridge when I get to
it. It's true, which is sad that you have to go into an
election thinking, well, you're going to pick the lesser of the two evils,
that's what it would come down to. Well, and actually that's what
it comes down to for a lot of people in a normal circumstance anyway.
But it is shocking that here we are, we're actually getting a rematch nobody
a rematch nobody wanted, but here we are, that's what we're getting.
It's unreal, that's true. Unreal. Well, we'll just have to wait
and see. And it was very nice speaking with you, Yes, it
was nice speaking with you. Karen I appreciate the call. Thank you so
much. You're welcome. Have good evening, all right you too, Bye
bye, nice, all right, nice here from Karen. It has been
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Thursday, August third, two thousand twenty three. By the way, quick
programming alert if you will. Jenny is just confirmed. H She has just
alerted me that she has confirmed Democratic can at it Marian Williamson will be joining
us live in studio on Friday, August eighteenth, so she will be here
live. That'll be great. She's um, you know, she's an author,
and of course she's a Democrat running for the nomination, challenging Joe Biden
for the nomination. And I remember i'd said this to Jenny. You know,
of course she ran, and she ran in twenty twenty and you know
she was always on the on the side of the debate stage. You know,
you know how they have they try to put the front runner in the
middle and kind of fan out from there, and you know, she was
always on one end, you know, never had much of a chance,
and I never thought that, you know, a lot of people there was
a lot of criticism about her not really coming off that great during those debates.
But then I happen to see a couple of long form interviews that people
had done with her on a couple of different podcasts, and I actually found
her to be quite impressive. So you know, that debate format where you
only get to speak for you know, especially if you're not one of the
one of the hunt runners, you only get you don't get a lot of
speaking time, and you know, it's hard to kind of make the most
of it. I would, I would think to be up there and just
knowing that you only have a minute or thirty seconds or forty five seconds to
try to get out a thought or a policy position or respond to somebody else,
and uh, you know, some people manage to make it work and
some people don't. And she seemed to struggle with that. But but also,
you know, she's not a professional politician. But then I saw her
being interviewed on a podcast and I said, Wow. She she really knows
the issues, and she's very intelligent and very articulate when you you know,
when you give her a chance to actually express herself. So the debate format
was not great for her, but but in terms of an actual open discussion,
she's very interesting and I look forward to look forward to having her here
in studio. So she will be here on Friday, August eighteenth, and
we look forward to that. Jenny says in the chat room, I think
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we should Uh we'll get caught up here with everybody in the Facebook live chat.
Lots lots going on in there. Oh hello to William slam Car in
the Facebook live chat. For a second there, I thought, I said,
William Shatner. I said, what, let's see, you haven't seen
William in there in a while. He says, can he legally this is
referring to Trump, of course, can he legally spend campaign money raised on
the lawyers? That has been a question recently, William, because we learned
that I guess about three out of every four dollars the Trump raises is going
to pay his legal fees. Well, at least his lawyers are actually getting
paid. Ask Rudy Giuliani about that. But I don't think there's anything illegal
about it, not that I'm aware of. I mean, campaign finance law
is complicated. It's also poorly and loosely enforced. But I but I'd said
this on the show. I think it was yesterday or the day before.
I was saying too that I don't imagine that people who are donating to his
campaign or his pack, I don't. I don't imagine they particularly mind.
Because for Trump, all all the legal problems are really just a part of
his campaign. It's actually a net benefit for him in terms of trying to
win the nomination. Again, I don't think it helps him in the general
election, but in terms of winning the nomination, because Trump has so effectively
you know, he tells, he tells his supporters, you know, I'm
doing this for you. He even couched today today's events his arraignment as being
quote a great honor, he said, because I'm doing it for you,
and we're all in this together, and they're not really after me, they're
after all of us and this and that, and his supporters really eat that
up, and they just keep giving him more money. Every new indictment,
every new arraignment, every new bit of legal trouble, his poll numbers go
up within the Republican Party, thus assuring he will be the nominee as I'm
absolutely convinced he will be, and he raises more money. It's now you
could say, though, it might not be in terms of business, and
if you were to look at a profit and lost statement, it might not
be the best business model. Yes, you're taking in all this money,
so it looks like you've got a profitable enterprise. But and you're also the
money is going right back out because it's going to legal fees. So is
that really a sound business model. Probably not. But if it gets him
to the nomination, which it will, then he just has to get to
the presidency. And if he can get to the presidency, all the federal
legal problems go away. You know, he'll he'll he'll appoint an attorney general
and say make this go away, and it goes away. Now that doesn't
help him, say for example, in Georgia where he's got stay charges to
deal with, or he will, but but it does it does help him
federally certainly if he can, if he can just win the nomination, UH
Texas. Former Congressman US Congressman from Texas Will Hurd said at an event over
the weekend, he said Donald Trump is not and he got booed for this.
Of course, he said, Donald Trump is not running to be president
of the United States. He's running to stay out of prison, which is
probably the harshest and most critical thing I've heard. Will Heard say, you
know, Chris Christie has been by far the most aggressive, and then Asa
Hutchinson has been probably the second most aggressive. And then I put Will Heard
at third, but Will heard saying that, I mean, that's that's almost
Chris Christie level. And of course they booed him. They booed him as
one would expect. Miriam banished in the chat room says, here is where
cognitive dissonance is important. They give him money and once they do it to
then think he was a terrible person would cause them terrible discomfort, so they
double down and love him more because they have to love him to have given
him so much money. That makes sense. I mean, there's a lot
we could say about the psychology of all this isn't there. But that does
make sense, Mariam. But yeah, I don't think there's anything legally preventing
him from spending campaign money on lawyers. I mean, listen, you,
campaign money gets spent on lawyers anyway, right, I mean, every every
campaign has to have attorneys anyway, right, because you know, you've got
to wade through the mine field that can be campaign finance law, you know,
when anyone actually bothers to enforce it. And like I said, I
cannot imagine. Let me put it this way. I've not heard of a
single instance of anyone who has donated money to Trump actually complaining about the money
going to legal fees. I think they're completely fine with it. Jenny says
this was being reported earlier while Trump was in court. He has being released
under the conditions. He can't speak. I'm sorry, he can't break any
more laws federal or state. Must be in court for everything. He is
not to talk to anyone about the case. Who is a witness? Isaac
Banks says Trump. Trump is truly going down for the ex president. By
the way, he's already he's already left. I believe he's got back.
He made some sort of a statement to the media brief one and then got
back on the plane. Isaac Banks also says, as the Fonds, whoa
or how did the Fonds? He's saying, whoa something like that. Something
I haven't watched Happy Days in decades. Uh, let's see. Jenny says
Pence could very well be a witness. Oh. Absolutely, I think he's
going to be. Uh, he's going to testify. He shows up a
lot in the indictment. Melanie Liberty from the Great State of Vermont joins us
and says, hey, guys. Isaac Banks says, by the way,
Abort seven is watching you on Facebook Live. Melanie says, yeah, Pence
definitely gets uncomfortable when things get well played. Melanie Aboard seven says, good
afternoon, hashtag Matt we say to you, and we are from Greensboro,
North Carolina. We are good friends with Isaac Banks. Yes, I figured
as much. Let's see. Jenny says he never talks about issues. Jenny
says, Trump is speaking. Oh this is when he This must have been
right before he got back on the plane. Trump speaking, very sad day
for America, very sad driving through DC with decay and broken buildings. This
is persecution, etc. We can't let this happen in America. He spoke
to the press briefly before boarding his plane. Jenny says, too. You
know, she's been there a few times recently. I thought DC looked great
and didn't see much homelessness at all, not like here. Tom Blanchard is
in the chairman says, how can we haven't seen Milannia lately? She must
be being well paid. Yeah, we haven't seen Milannia much, although there
were long stretches during the Trump presidency where we didn't see much of Milania either.
But I she never looked like she was comfortable with the whole thing.
Jenny says, probably living her best single styled life. Lol. They have
separate bedrooms. Aboard seven apparently really enjoyed the new song from Jerry. Robinson
says, oh yeah, we say we say that is rock and roll hashtag
Matt Connerton, Jenny points out in the chat, now if Trump is elected
he can part in federal charges pardon himself, but he can't do anything with
New York or Georgia. I'm guessing Florida would give him a pardon, let's
see. Mariam also says he needs to stop running his mouth referring to Trump.
I assume let's um talk a little bit about Ron De Santis, because
I just saw something that really jumped out at me. You know, when
people, oh, hello to a grim Rock who I see in the Facebook
live chat, you know, there's a lot of violent rhetoric used, a
lot of violent imagery that didn't used to be a thing that we see now
in here now, and then I see this from the Hill dot com.
Does Santis vows to start It's almost it's actually almost sort of comical because I
can't believe him about to read this sentence. But I think De Santis,
you know, he's been trying to kind of adjust and recalibrate his campaign because
a lot of big money donors are abandoning him. A lot of them are
going to Tim Scott apparently to see this is from the Hill, DeSantis vows
to start slitting throats on day one. Oh my goodness, what's he gonna
go to Disney and start uh, you know, because he's got this vendetta
against Disney and now he's mad at Annheuser Bush too. I think, right,
that's who makes bud Light. He's mad at them too. This is
gonna start slitting throats. He's a he's a serious Maybe he's a serial killer.
You know what I think he's gonna do. I think Governor de Santis,
I think he's gonna put on a Garth Brooks mask and just go around.
Uh that's what he said. Listen to this um um oops, here
we go. Florida Governor Ron de Santis on Sunday said he would quote start
slitting throats on day one unquote when it comes to taking on the deep state.
DeSantis made the remarks at a barbecue campaign event in Ryan, New Hampshire,
hosted by former Senator Scott Brown, Republican of Massachusetts. To santa said,
quote, We're going to have all of these deep state people, and
you know, we are going to start slitting throats on day one unquote.
Listen, if you've heard me talk about Governor to Santas in the past,
if you're a regular listener, you know I've I've used certain terms to describe
the governor. I believe one of them is psychotic, because listen, if
you use that kind of violent imagery when you speak, even though okay,
he's probably just being colorful, he's probably he means hyperbolically, he's not literally
literally going around going to go around slitting people's throats. We would hope,
right, but that he would even speak that way I find troubling. I
wouldn't want to be alone in a room with somebody who talks about slitting people's
throats, that's for sure, it says here. This is not the first
time the Florida governor governor has used the terminology. Last month, during an
interview with the right leaning outlet Real America's Voice, decantists use the expression when
talking about how he would change the hierarchy in the Department of Defense if elected.
Quote, I think the idea that you take a flag officer or a
general officer who recently retired and put them as Secretary of Defense, I think
it is a mistake. You know, they may have to slit some throats,
and it's a lot harder to do that if these are people that you've
trained with in the past. Or that, you know, So we're going
to have to have somebody out there, you know, be very firm,
very strong, but they are going to make sure that we have the best
people in the best positions and there's not going to be nest necessarily prior relationships
that would cloud that judgment. Unquote. Uh. DeSantis added later in the
interview, I love killing No, I'm kidding. I added that that's that
was a joke. No, But I mean, as somebody who speaks that
way, you know, doesn't that kind of creepy out a little bit.
I mean, again, I get it, he's I'm sure he's using it
as a figure of speech. I'm sure he's not actually walking around having murder
fantasies, but I'm actually not sure, you know, I don't. I
don't know. I don't usually communicate with people who speak that way, you
know. I mean, if if let's say, for example, you're in
a work situation and someone you you work with or someone you interact with professionally
every day at your job, just one day in conversation they say something you
like, Now, you know, I'm so mad at management here at this
job. I think it's about time I went and started slitting some throats.
Um, what would you think? Would you think that that person might be
a danger, would you be comfortable around that person, or would you just
be like, oh, yeah, they just mean uh what do they mean?
It sounds like they want to murder some people. I mean, come
on, that's creepy to me. That is creepy to me. Yeah,
he was here in New Hampshire. I mean maybe maybe he just thinks that
that's how people talk in New Hampshire, that we talk about slitting throats.
I don't know, but that is Um, that is the second most popular
candidate for the Republican nomination, Trump being first. I mean even Trump doesn't
say like Trump. Trump has invoked violent imagery certainly. Uh, but uh,
I've never even heard Trump use an expression like that. I mean maybe
he has, but I don't know. I've never heard Trump say hey,
you know, like when I'm when I mean, I certainly don't recall in
in twenty sixteen, I'm saying something like yeah, you know I'm gonna be
president and you know we're gonna slid Hillary Clinton's throat or something like that.
I mean, who talks that way? I don't trust anybody. I'm sorry.
I don't feel comfortable around anybody who talks that way. That's uh,
that's that's creepy. Am I wrong? Am I overreacting? You know,
if if, if, if anyone thinks I'm overreacting, please tell me.
Let's see. Let me give the number we've got. Oh yeah, we've
got about another twenty minutes or so. In today's show six three two five
hs six seven six two five six seven. Oh my goodness, Polster Frank
Lentz said something very troubling here. This is from mediae dot Com. A
sullen Frank Luntz warns that conflicting realities portrayed on cable news is a sign of
the beginning of the end for the US. I'm m I'm curious what he
had to say here. Let's see, this is a Polster Republican Polster Frank
Lentz during Political Strategist Frank Lentz. Mister Lenz was on this show during the
January sixth attack on Capitol Hill. Frank, thanks very much for joining us.
Well, hopefully will not be as emotional today as I was that evening.
Yeah, you you were emotional. It was an emotional evening. You
were describing it as a disgrace. It was happening in the United States.
You were angry at Donald Trump, who was then the president, and now
here we are those two and a half years later, he's facing criminal charges,
quite a few of them, this time over his role in the events
that day. So your thoughts, now, well, here's the problem.
I sit up all night into the morning listening to our cable news networks describe
what was happening, and you had one completely different scenario on one network than
you had on another network or the third network. It's not that we disagree
with solutions we or disagree with the problems. We don't even agree on the
same facts anymore. And depending on where you get your news, it's frankly
to affirm rather than inform. And I don't know how you address that.
I don't know how you bring people back together, and most importantly, with
what has happened with the President Trump, I don't know how you instill accountability
anymore. Can you see it, bluntly? Can you see a future or
bright future for your country? And now let's put it the other way,
Could this be the beginning of the end? And it's now conceivable it's the
same thing I feel towards Ai. There's a ten percent likelihood that everything goes
to hell. Last night, I'm listening on some of these news networks as
people are swearing, as they're talking in a way that I've never heard Americans
talk on television before. Everything that I thought was impossible is now happening.
So if you ask me, how bad can it get? I don't know,
but I know it can be a lot worse. And I know that
whatever happens here is coming to you all maybe five years down the road.
And it's a very sad day. By the way. When he says this
is coming to you all. That was on he was on a Canadian cable
news program. Apparently I've never seen Frank so down in the down in the
dumps. Rudy Giuliani apparently, Well, here, let's play this clip.
This is from Rudy Giuliani. This is from Media I Slam's desk, an
angry rant against Trump indictment. You don't get to violate people's First Amendment rights.
Smith. That's one of the arguments. One of the arguments in defense
of Trump is that he can say whatever he wants to say, but actually
we should talk about this for a moment, then we'll play the clip.
He can say whatever he wants to say. So if he wants to go
around so say, for example, the president of the United States at two
thirty in the morning of election night, if he wants to go out and
tell everybody this election was stolen from us. We won this election and they
stole it from us, even though as Chris Christie has pointed out, he
had no way of knowing at two thirty in the morning the night of the
election that, you know, how would he have even known that or had
any evidence of that. But also that's not part of the indictment. They
left that out. The indictment centers on other things, and as far as
I can tell, really the crux of it is making the argument that he
knew he had lost the election, but he made an effort to overturn the
election illegally, you know, to kind of sum it up. But it
doesn't I don't think the indictment, unless I've misunderstood something, doesn't actually touch
anything that any of Trump's public statements. And now Miriam points out in the
chat room First Amendment does not cover inciting a riot. True, but you
know, rights are not absolute, and incitement of violence is not covered your
in terms of your First Amendment rights, incitement is not included. But then
you have, you know, then you can get into these arguments about well,
what constitutes inciting a riot and and so forth. But that's not part
of the indictment. And yet what I'm seeing now is it's almost as though
some of the Trump defenders are trying to spin it as though it is a
part of the indictment. They seem to be arguing from a point of well,
this indictment is saying that he can't have his First Amendment rights. But
that's not even part of the indictment. The it's about his efforts to overturn
the twenty twenty election, including the fake electors plot and whatnot. But let's
hear what Giuliani had to say. What show was he on. Oh,
he was on a Newsmax show called The Balance. Will play the clip here?
Oh, why don't have any audio? Oh? I know why?
That is operator error. Here we go. So what do you what do
you what do you say to Jack Smith? I mean, and again,
I guess you have to be careful what you say. He still is the
Special Investigator of the Special Prosecutor you know, yours in others future long ago.
Stop being careful and I didn't worry. I don't worry about the Jack
Smiths of this world. Is he crying? He sounds like he's crying.
I've never heard what is going on there? Why is his voice wavering like
that? Did he suddenly have a shock of conscience where he feels badly about
what he did to Ruby Freeman and her daughter? Because he should. He
should feel very badly about that he ruined their lives over a lie. I'm
kidding, of course, what I say. Does he feel badly about that?
No? I am quite certain that he doesn't. I cannot imagine he's
even capable of accepting responsibility. But let me back this up a little.
He sounds like he's crying. Careful what you say? He still is the
special investigator of the special prosecutor you know, I kind of you know yours
in others future long ago. I stop being careful, and I didn't worry.
I don't worry about the Jack Smiths of this world. I have a
chapter in my books called stand Up to Bullies. So here's what I say
to Jack Smith after the Supreme Court throughout your case, which should should should
have been a disgrace, and you should have gone and found another profession because
you don't belong in this one. This one will be your legacy, violating
the right of free speech of an American citizen. Never mind whether he was
resident or not. You could be anybody, You could be a homeless person.
You don't get to violate people's first Amendments, right Smith, No matter
who the hell you are, but no matter how sick you are with Trump
derangement syndrome. And this isn't the first time you've acted like an unethical lawyer,
it should be the last. What about what about his uh? I
guess you'd call him his boss, Maybe not his boss, but with the
guy who pointed him. What about Carlin? I say, I want to
investigate his son in law who's making millions teaching kids how to change their agenda
while the boss, I mean, it's all about money in the Biden administration.
While the boss is condemning parents as terrorists, the son in law is
making millions going around to public schools and teaching kids they should question their agenda.
Do you know that they don't cover it all? Crooked pos doesn't we've
we've we've got I think I've they've covered that with you on the balanced quite
a few years, and it's amazing. I don't even know what that's about.
But he seems like I don't think I don't think he was crying,
but I think he's uh. I think he's uh starting to slip away there
a little bit. He's not he's not the same. I think this has
all taken a toll on him. Um. Maybe it's a Dorian Gray thing.
I don't know. I think he's deteriorating, and I think that,
uh, and you know, he might feel he won't say it publicly,
of course, but uh, there's been a lot. At one point,
there were a lot of stories going around about you know, Trump not you
know, because Juliani wasn't successful in getting the election overturned, and Trump not
paying him because Trump uh is known for not paying lawyers. Um. But
uh, wow, that was that was I'm not used to seeing Giuliani quite
that way, Melanie says in the chat room. Doesn't make me a bad
person if I hope he's crying. Um, no, no, I make
no judgment. Shannon is on the line, High Shannon, Hello, Hello,
Who was that just speaking? That was Rudy Giuliani. He sounds different.
He sounds a little different, doesn't he. Yeah, yeah, I'd
say he wasn't crying because it didn't sniffle once. Yeah, in the beginning,
his voice was shaking so much it sounded like he was crying. But
uh, but no, that or almost is if he's starting maybe Parkinson's or
something. Oh, why do you say that? Is that? Is that
a symptom shaking one? I think so. I don't. I haven't been
around enough people to notice. But or very nervous type. I don't know,
it's just not He wasn't crying, that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
I think in the beginning with her was him swallow. I don't know,
but he doesn't. He doesn't look good. You know. I have
video. You know you can't see it at home, obviously I have video
here too. And he doesn't look good. He looks like he's uh,
he looks like he's at the end of a long road. I'll put it.
Well, you know, And I have no sympathy for the guy.
I mean, I've I've talked about on the show what he did, what
he did to those poll workers, by starting that lie about them, which
then got repeated by Trump himself in that call with Brad Raffinsburger, which then
became public, which then ruined their lives and put their safety in danger.
You know, I have I have no sympathy for this man whatsoever. None.
No, And I'm a pretty empathetic person, but I have no.
I don't wish him any harm, just to be clear, but I also
don't have any sympathy for him. I mean, this guy, you know,
once a revere and respected US attorney, a federal prosecutor, and then
a mayor of New York City, and and he was you know, he
was pretty you know strong, and on nine to eleven he was mayor and
he and he was governor when nine to eleven happened, and you know,
he was and he was very he projected a lot of optimism and confidence that
the city would rebound, which is what New York needed at that point.
And look at him now, the way, Well, he's deteriorated because he's
um um screwed. Well, he's just he's just this pathetic creature. He's
uh, it's it's sad to see someone again. I don't have any sympathy
for him, but it's sad to see someone fall that far and just turn
into sting. That is also a possibility. What do you make is he
started to sound like up growing too, But I'm not right, that's true.
You know that's true. So I don't know. It's up of the
air when someone catches your rdiances right, all right, curious mind, want
to know. Have a good evening, Tony. Of course, all right,
Shannon, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. Yeah right,
all right, bye bye, all right, always nice here from our
friend Shannon. We should remind you because we're actually running out of time on
today's program, of course, Tonight I will be on the Doctor Kevin Show.
Immediately following this show, I do my monthly call into the Doctor Kevin
Show on the Home Times Radio network. So and we'll be talking about today's
events on there, I'm certain. And don't forget trivia night tonight at the
hopknot tomorrow. On the program, we do have a musical guest. We
will not have a classic film review this week. Eric is our friend Eric
Pilcher, my favorite Conservatives. He's got a lot going on, so he's
gonna take this week off, but we do have a great musical guest skyping
in, I believe from Texas called Pass the Ammunition. Well where else could
they be? From them Texas with a name like at No, a really
good metal band though, I'm looking forward to talking to them. So that
will be, Uh, that will be. And tomorrow in the second hour,
I'm laughing because Melanie's just made a comment in the chat room that's funny
that I shan't read on the air, but that is quite humorous. Yeah,
So lots going on, lots going on, but also too, if
you missed it earlier in the show, we made the announcement Jenny is confirmed.
Democratic presidential candidate and author Mary Ann Williamson will be here with us live
in studio on August eighteenth, So we look we look forward to that.
Melanie says, big man baby tears. Yeah, I don't think he was.
I didn't see any tears running down his face. The only thing I've
ever seen running down Rudy Giuliani's face is that black goop. That time he
was standing out in front of four Seasons Landscaping and lawn Care, rambling nonsense,
sickly about all this evidence of election fraud that none of which was real.
Tom Blanchard says, I wonder if Trump told him what to do and
say Jay fed says, Melanie is making you giggle a lot, and with
stuff you can't say. Yes. That well, that is a common feature
of the program. All right, we're gonna go. I'm going to actually
play I'm gonna play the track one more time, the world radio premiere that
we did today of the new song from Jerry and the Scumbags. The song
is called Hipster Dipster. Actually, we'll just play the song this time,
not the not the intro in the beginning. Well, actually maybe we will.
Maybe we will play the whole We'll play the intro as well. It
is funny him talking to mister b his his producer. Yeah, we'll play
the whole thing. But yeah, we gotta go. I have to get
ready to call into the Doctor Kevin Show. Thank you all so much.
If you miss any part of today's program, it will be up in just
a little bit at WMH radio dot org and on my website Matt Connerton dot
com. And it's been a been a historic day, that's for sure.
All right, thanks everybody. We'll talk to y'all A little bit later,
Jerry, I think it's time to put another song on. We have to
if the people are asking for it. Mister B. You know I'll never
I'll never not listen to what you have to say, you being my professional
studio paduoser, of course. But is it? Do we should we really
put out another I mean that the album is coming out, like you said,
the n one out of previous videos, it's coming out soon. Do
we do we really need the gift them? I'm not the taste of the
album. I mean, it's my single. I'm demand not enough people are
asking for it. It's time they want another one. I've been reading the
comments. People say that they want to hear more. But should I give
them one now? Is a little tip bit, a little delicious mussel?
Or should I just hit them all at once with the other eight or nine
songs that we're working on? Give them one now? Hipster Dipster? Absolutely,
you think that I should do Hipster Dipster as the next song. That's
one of the best on the album. You have to give him a taste,
you know, mister B. I do believe you're right. Hipster Dipster.
It's gonna be the next single. It's coming to you and your air
your air waves. That dimss that went up, that's I'm sorry, mister
b I didn't mean to embarrass myself in front of your presence, but coming
to you live now right through the airwaves. Hipster dipster, what's war with
I? Society? All the gains to day are weak? Says It's like
to call me the listening for Valente? Why can't ain't we morel be?
I like to walk and don't you say that name lay do Dame crow Cloud
is all the same. It seems like God, I'll find your way unto
Manca. You say great again, anser as when lose your radio can't ster
dister, They don't know real walking woldster Dister. But your lot says,
may get small hester Dister, But send me do that soul sa soul show.
What has the part of the stallscation sitting in my sodo? Minkle's going
on my phone from some kids down down wall jealous of my This hour on
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