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Hi, Welcome to the paranorl Will
Peep show on the paranorl WI UK.

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Ready your network with myself, Nina
Ward and fellow hosts return once more from

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the Darkness, It's and the chaplain. Well, I'm definitely not from the

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light. Hello. Yeah. Well, I say the darkness because you're coming

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out the winter months now, so
you've been like frequent in dark alleyways and

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doing readings on for people. That's
what I kind of guessed from that.

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Oh, absolutely mean, I thought
you meant kind of like from Halloween.

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Ere. I remember the last time
I was here with Christmas Halloween whenever it

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was. Yeah, last couple of
shows Ben did January and he also did

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February, so I think you must
have been with us for December, that's

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right, Yeah, Christmas then,
yeah, the Christmas darkness is a gradually

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a subsiding now. Yeah, and
I'm getting a little bit happier as the

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spring starts to become things and we're
starting to get a bit eastery. So

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that's nice. So how have you
been doing well? My favorite times of

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year are spring and autumn. Anyway, I find like the depths of winter

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too cold, and the depths of
summer too hot, so it's coming up

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to my favorite time when it's just
about right. Yeah, however, I

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be out arranging events and yes,
but really my life is basically arranging psychic

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nights here there and everywhere. If
people haven't joined it already joined tuned and

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events tuned with the the tuned in
events on Facebook, Instagram and blah blah

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blah, and yeah, we're kind
of like here, there and everywhere.

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Well, we're going to do a
new concept. We're going to do psychic

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suppers now. So this is where
people sit down and they have some food,

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have a nice little buffet meal,
and then have readings at the same

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time. So kicking that off as
well. I'm familiar with that because I've

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done that a few spiritualist churches over
the years where I've been roped in as

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a psychic breeder medium, and they
tend to do fish and chip. I'm

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the only person that has a vegetarian
option. We kind of tend to forget

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about that and they go, oh
and it throws a spanner and networks a

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bit, but yeah, never in
mind to get sorted. And I've also

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been doing a little bit of watching
of Dr John Campbell on YouTube and he

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came up with are very interesting,
I think to do with the national statistics

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of deaths. And as we both
know, there's been as in the UK

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since saying introduced to certain medical procedure
a few years ago that there's turned medical

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and experimental and suddenly the deaths throughout
the world started to skyrocket and no one

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can explain them or people are refusing
to explain them. So the UK is

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following suit it sceniums of Canada,
where they're now readjusting the way they count

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their death figure apparently. Yeah,
all the people that are died are apparently

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going to resurrect themselves now because they
appear, seriously appear to be alive according

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to these figures. So yeah,
problem problem sorted basically to solving the problem.

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You move the goalpost and you say, don't look there, look at

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this new capcation instead. So yeah, I mean, I mean Jaban,

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Japan did the same thing with Fukushima. Did you hear about this one?

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So they have a satan They had
a safe limit of how much the human

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body can take in terms of radio
activity, but they needed personnel to go

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in and sort out the Fukushima situation, and so All they did was raise

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the limit, just raise the limit
of I'm joking, raise the limit of

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what is the safe limit a human
body can take for radiation? And that

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allowed personnel to come in. It's
great. All you do with the science

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is you just make it up.
You just make up the science. Did

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you have that guy in New Zealand
as well, who's actually working for the

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government, who's working as a data
analyst, and he seems to reckon this

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is his allegation. He seems to
reckon that within two weeks, twenty one

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percent of people who got the jibbidy
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of people. Is that New Zealand
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was New Zealand, who's working for
the New Zealand government. I can try

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and find his name a bit later
on, but he came out in public

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and I think he was on Wow
Info Wars and he was he was a

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whistleblower basically, and he basically said, look, this is this is what's

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going on. This is my job. I was being paid by the government

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to sort out the data and statistics. This is what I found is absolutely

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shocking and the whole world should know
about it. And guess what BBC News

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says, conspiracy theory. Yeah,
brilliant, of course that's the lover.

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but of course they won't of course, means to report it. Yeah.

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Anyway, talking to science, Yeah, very pleased tonight. We've got a

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scientist with us tonight. There's a
lot of pretend it's the real scientists.

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Yeah, mister David Ash joins us
and he welcome. David, Are you

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there. I'm indeed here, lovely
to be with you. Bert, thank

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you very much for inviting me.
Hello, David, I'm hoping you didn't

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jabs. No, I didn't do
the job. I wouldn't it go.

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Let's thank you. We need more
scientists to actually speak out the truth.

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Yeah, definitely all that. Why
did you have interest? Why did you

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decide not to be persuaded? Well, because it's it's non proven science.

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I mean, those guys were coming
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proper tests, and it's obvious to
me that the whole COVID issue was

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a money making scam for the pharmaceutical
industry. Then what it is is that

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they've invested huge sums of money in
this messenger are in a technology that the

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patents run out within twenty years,
So they needed a pandemic to test it,

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you know, to get their money
back within the ten twenty year timeframe.

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And because the pandemic wasn't coming along
very quickly, they needed to sort

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of you know, there were a
number of covids, wasn't there. There

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was swine flu and you know,
there's other other but they didn't kind of

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yells invasions. Yeah, so they
needed to sort of bioengineer the virus a

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bit to make sure it worked this
time so that they could have a damn

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good pandemic and make a shitload of
money. And you know, but yeah,

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I mean look at that as you
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of terrible shocking in terms of killing
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I found it. I think his
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Gunn. I think that's I think
that's yeah, I've recognized this video clip.

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So, yeah, the New Zealand
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Barry Young is the guy to have
a look at and he's interviewed by Liz

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Gunn. Make up your own minds
on that, folks, and David,

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just to kind of like back up
what you're saying in terms of like a

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made up science. I remember the
people pushing the Gibudy jabs basically saying,

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if you going to have like a
main jub but then subsequent boosters, you

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can mix them up a little bit. You can mix them up a little

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bit. Now, the thing is, each of these jabs have got a

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different technology, So some of them
are MNA and some of them are not.

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And then some of them work like
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don't. So there's there's different technologies. But the experts, so called experts,

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are saying you can mix them up. So you can have a fires

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over here, you can have a
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have an astrozenica over here. You
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The science is not just you know, for a hodgepodge load of ingredients

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and just say hope for the best. It's ridiculous. Would you agree with

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that, David? Definitely? Word, I mean that's news to me that

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you could they're saying that you could
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news. Yeah. Yeah, well
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the results you get mixed. No
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you can actually come back and now
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I mean, like it's like a
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kitchen. Technically he could just pull
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don't know, a bit of lettuce, a bit of cucumber, a bit

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of tuna, maybe some chocolate,
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maybe some custard and furrow it all
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Whether it will be a nice meal
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that's it. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure the rats for the eat

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it and because they don't care.
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things out on rats and mice,
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That's the problem. But I'm thortunately
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being tested either. Yeah, this
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I'm kind of googling things. So
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of the jubidy jabs. We'll just
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jubidy jabs and this is from the
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may enhance the immune response and it
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dose but doses of the jibudy jab
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basically saying it enhances the immune response
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So I said, next medical condition
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just going to go into a pharmacist. I'm just going to go randomly,

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I have that one, that one, that one, and to mix them

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all together, you know, whatever
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take for the shelfs. Just crush
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apart. You know, happy days. That's how science works, isn't it?

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Absolutely Absolutely so, David, if
we move on from the controversial,

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and i'd dare say your book perhaps
controversial away. You've you've brought out this

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wonderful book which is called super Energy
and the Quantum Vortex, and I know

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you've been doing presentations, You've done
a few YouTube video interviews, as well,

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so and I'm getting through it.
But I must, as I explained

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before we started, that I'm not
one for physics and things like that.

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It must be a challenge industry to
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realms of people like Niles Boorr and
uh Einstein all these people and try and

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bring it into Layman's terms for people
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Well, the thing is that I'm
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and my job is to make complex, you know, physics understandable to

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children and to the late public.
So it's right up my street to you

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know, to get rid of the
maths. And I explained things with analogies,

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cat and mouse analogies, hedgehog and
flee analogies, tadpole analogies, full

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of analogies, and it's a bit
like the Parables of Jesus. He you

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know, he taught people with little
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the with the physics. So yeah, it's it's a challenge. But I've

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got this this set of ten essays
I've written on the quantum vortex, which

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I'm publishing as a book. Lose
Einstein, Wright and it's a handbook of

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the universe, and so you can
get a complete understanding universe from the smallest

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quantum to the largest galaxy in just
a very small little book. So it's

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kind of making science really simple and
understandable. And I'm a whistleblower of myself

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because I'm blowing the whistle on quantum
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crash quantum mechanics, quark theory,
the general theory of relativity, and basically

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replace most of the theories in physics
with an incredibly simple idea which I got

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out of the ogic philosophy. So
it's interesting. You guys are channels because

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you see, I am not capable
of doing what I'm doing. It's what's

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happened is that I've received the information. The word genius comes from which means

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uh spirit in the in the in
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it's the Islamic world. It's it's
Persian. It's sorry about that. I

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just have a little mental block.
The word jin in Persian stands for spirit,

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so genius actually means someone who's inspired
by spirit. So I know that

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I'm getting my information from the spirit
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my guides is Albert Einstein. I've
had this tremendous affinity with Albert Einstein,

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and I was just doing some I
get these ideas to just pop into my

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head, and I was putting this
quote, which is right at the end

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of the new book, a really
beautiful quote about God that Einstein wrote,

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you see. And when I looked
up the reference, apparently he's someone It

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was a banker who was sending out
letters to Nobel Prize laureates want to know

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their opinion on God, and so
it said that Einstein just scribbled this quote

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on the letter. And as I
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this prompt came into my head.
He scribbled it on the back of

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the letter, and I thought,
there's only one person who knows whether he

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wrote on the front of the or
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kind of confirmed for me that basically
I'm just an extension of the computer,

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but the real person who's doing the
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I'm convinced of that. I can't
say that anywhere else, but I

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can say to her on the Psychic
Show. If he's still to me,

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Yeah, have you got the quote
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like to hear it. Well,
I yes, I have got it to

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hand. Actually, if I can
pull it up, it means I have

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to just go into my computer.
Is that okay? Can I? Yeah?

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Einstein said God does not play guys, which, yeah, so what this

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is it? It's really beautiful.
I'm just just bringing it up now in

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number because the whole concepts of people
getting ideas for kind of genius concepts,

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whether it's song titles or whether it's
artistic or whether it's scientific. A lot

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of things have been inspired out of
the ether, haven't they, Neil,

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You've probably heard of this, Like
people just get a night or sometimes Neil,

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they wake up from a dream.
I've heard this before. They wake

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up with how this amazing concepts and
then they put it down on paper if

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they've got pen and paper ahead.
And its happened to some physicists actually that

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had dreams or I remember some physicists
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light of atoms or something like that. I can't remember who it was now,

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didn't know genius derived from genie.
That's fascinating from spirit. Yeut. I'll

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read this out. This is the
last This is right at the end of

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the book. It's the final paragraph
of my book. The Colorado Banker wrote

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to a number of Nobel laureates for
their opinions on God. On the back

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of the letter he received, Einstein
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the personal God who would directly influence
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judgment of creatures of his own creation. My religiosity consists of a humble admiration

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of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals
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about the knowable world. That deeply
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reasoning power which is revealed in the
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that he kind of doesn't answer it. But I suppose it comes down to

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how do you do find what God
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not really going into the Judaio Christian
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he has got some belief in something
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that he believes in God as a
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behind the whole universe. Not you
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Judaic Christian sort of concept of God. Yeah. Interesting, but I I

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I go a lot deeper into this
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you'll see I make it very clear
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God is, and also that that
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actually it turns out that E equals
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but energy has no mass, Energy
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like a thought than a thing.
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because the universe is more like a
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you can't have a great thought without
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is consciousness. But the thing what
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that if particles are all acts of
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then they all come from the same
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same physical characteristics. It's almost as
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It's indivisible. So there's something inside
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at me, okay, looking through
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same conscious awareness and suicide me just
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my ears. In other words,
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bodies. And that is why we
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Egyptian word, one of the ancient
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in the whole of humanity. And
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consciousness is growing, is learning,
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being on planet Earth. I would
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you've heard of Neil Donald Walsh I
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his kind of line of channeling with God's

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in quotation mark with conversation with God. Also those set of books by Jane

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I go for for that. What's
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give that foundation to what Neil Donald
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people are saying what you're experiencing the
mediums through physics, through a new approach

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to physics. So we're going to
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knock it for six and replace it
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when I was sixteen, I wrote
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and the Yogis in ancient India had
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consciousness commensurate with the small and they
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the atom, and what they saw
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this idea of the vortex, and
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physicists like Lord Calvin and all the
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vortex atom theory, which was an
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this, as new discoveries about the
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explain them, and it was ditched. And then the problems that the vortex

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theory couldn't be explained was explained by
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of them. He was the leader
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poured it up. Anyway, barely
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Physics, and they concocted, they
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quantum mechanics. And Einstein despised it. He said, it's a real which

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is calculus, so ingenious in its
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was discovered called a neutron. And
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the of the hydrogen bomb, detonator
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neutron disprieves the uncertainty principle of erne
Heisenberg. And what they've done is they've

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covered it up they've ignored the evidence, which is like a mortal sin in

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science. Yeah, so I'm the
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and putting Einstein Wright and saying Einstein
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basically what it is is what they
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when they discovered sub atomic particles,
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sub atomic particles because it really works. So in my new book was Einstein

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Wright and you Know, which is
a collection of essays, I've written ten

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essays, which is up on substack. So anyone who wants to read the

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essays before they're published, it doesn't
cost you anything. You just go to

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substack and it's David Ash three three
three on substack. Just look me up.

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Go in there and you subscribe and
you can get and you can for

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free and you can get read these
essays. And what I do in these

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essays, I just go through the
whole of the physics and rebuild the whole

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of the physics around this idea that
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Now, I'm not going to go
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with a psychic peep show. What
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on the quantum vortex tonight, but
focus on the super energy, because with

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the book it is super energy,
and the quantum vortex in the front of

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this book is the front of this
book is all about the super energy.

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Now, so apparently I've got to
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a sometimes, so I think it's
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Smith. Certainly if you go to
Waterstones you can order it. There

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are a few supplied problems, but
you can certainly get it on Amazon.

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And the thing is that what I'm
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world we're living in that seems so
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it be formed out of thought forms? Well, energy is more like a

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thought than a thing, and it's
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that the energy is represented by this
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it's light. And the Yogis said
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of mind, a denser level of
thought. See, so they knew that

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the nature of our reality is thought. The Aboriginal needs got it right when

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they said that we're living in a
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Bit will in. But what so
this is for you, like my

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work is a string theory if you
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vibration. They this is the great
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the whole universe in terms of the
waveform. The reason is that physics is

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dominated by men. And it says
in the Talmud, we see the world

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not the way it is, but
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project the masculine principle on the universe, which is the waveform. It's like

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the sperm you see. And the
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lucifer. You see the light bearer. And they've complete the sideline, completely

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ignored mate and mother, the feminine
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It's like the old them. It's
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word matter comes from nata, meaning
mother in the latter in. So what

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I'm doing is I'm bringing in the
female form of physics, a feminine form

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of energy, which is this whirlpool
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spins. So I'm bringing in a
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theory. I'm saying that two forms
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one is the vortex. You see. And the reason you get this wave

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particle duality, which is why they
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wave drives into the vortex and pushes
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of energy, and the spin it
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across the pond because it's it's that
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direction resists movement in any direction,
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by the vortex. Richard Faman said, the laws of inertia have no known

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origin, and I've just explained it
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things in physics which I can't explain. See, So I asked, thinking

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that for something like let's just take
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photons. So the photon is the
if you like, the physical bit,

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but what's unknown is what's actually causing
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would be the thought, that's the
thought that you've got it. The photon

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is a waveform of energy, and
nobody knows why a wave And it's like

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with me, why the vortex.
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thirteen and a half billion years old. These the electron has been around for

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ten to the twenty two years,
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Ten to the thirty three years.
The proton is their estimated lifespan. So

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basically, if you imagine there's a
god in eternity, what was God doing

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before the universe? Just thinking up
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waves, and then eventually so stuff
full, This great mind was stuff full,

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just the gig whirlly gigs and wavy
gigs, the whole lot. Exploded

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it out and that's the big bang
into the universe, and everything's just been

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reacting and interacting, and the consciousness
has been behind it or just observing all

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the ways, all these waves and
vortities have been working together, and you

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know, this is the whole process
of evolution behind the scenes, but there's

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this conscious awareness behind it, learning, growing, and we're all part of

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that life need protest. We're just
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of you know, we've come up
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from plants, through animals and now
we're these human beings and there's so

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much has gone in to the formation
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the divine it's having such an adventure
being human beings. I mean that things

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that spirit can do in a human
body that just blows, you know,

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just beyond anything that could ever be
imagined. So it's a wonderful, wonderful

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opportunity to be alive, especially at
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there another stage beyond human? Absolutely
there is which would be So let's explain

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it to you here now because I
get distracted, mine choose yas the speed

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and the energy. The thing about
these these waves and vorticies is there's nothing

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there. So there are bits of
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is either a waver of ortex.
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speed. The speed of the energy
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of light. Now, in physics, they've shown that you can't move a

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particle faster than the speed of light. All right, well, of course

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you can't. If the particle is
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the speed of light, you can't
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it. But that doesn't mean you
can't have other levels, other worlds,

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other levels of reality, other dimensions
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the same laws of physics, but
the underlying speed of motion is faster

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the next level out is twice the
speed of light. The next level out

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beyond that is just sixteen times the
speed of light. So you see,

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use this physics simply by that little
bit of logic, you'd realize there could

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be other worlds, and they're based
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As soon as we've got that watch, we get this, all right,

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thanks to Ikia this little I used
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but now I'm using this. This
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which you see is a little bit
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of light belong in the physical three
dimensional world, okay, all speeds between

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zero and twice the speed of light
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okay, and all which is the
fourth dimension, and all speeds between

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zero and sixteen times the speed of
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okay, which I call the super
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hyper physical and physical. Okay.
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this is the harmony of the spheres, folks. If you noticed in

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this system, the lesser is part
of the greater. Thirty miles an hour

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is part of sixty miles an hour. You can get. You know,

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a jet can go at walking speed, at the speed of your bicycle,

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the speed of you car. But
when you're on your bicycle, you can't

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catch a jet. Okay. So
that's the law that you know. If

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we're in the lesser part, we're
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greater part is containing the lesser part. So what this means is there could

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be beings all around us because our
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is part of their world. Okay, they could be all around us,

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but we wouldn't be aware of them
because the speed of their energy is

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moving so too fast. So the
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beings would be speed. Now,
isn't it interested in interesting? In ancient

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times they said there are angels all
around us, but we are not aware

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of them. We can't see them
because they're moving too fast. And also

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they said they're fairies all around us, and we're not aware of them because

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we're too slow and clumsy. So
my battle cry is there's more reason to

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believe in angels and fairies than in
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It's refreshing to other physicities talk about
angels and fairies. Oh, it's

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going to be so much fun because
I'm going to smash up the whole of

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their physics. I'm going to come
in with this completely new physics that explains

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everything with this simple little model.
And then I start going on about angels

408
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,319
and fairies. And what I'm saying
is the next PhD you've got to do

409
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,240
is on angels, wings and fairly
rings. Do you think I can see

410
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,480
it? Imperial College are gonna love
me. I mean We're gonna have so

411
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:15,519
much fun if you had Professor Richard
Dawkins here, Oh, professor Incent Talkins,

412
00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:21,039
Yes, let's get him into a
debate. Yes, I'm nonsense.

413
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:34,960
It's just somebody's imagination. What your
respons be to him? Oh girl,

414
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,519
we're gonna have fun. But anyway, Yes, So the thing is that

415
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,039
I noticed you've got some ET's behind
you Andrew there. So what what it

416
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,280
is is that it's rather than move
through through space time, you move in

417
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,280
and out of space time. What
I'm predicting in my physics is that every

418
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:58,119
single sub atomic particle in your body
is formed out of a little whirligig like

419
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719
this, which is moving at the
speed of light. Now, there is

420
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,280
a technology, it's called a super
energy resonance technology. It's based on resonance.

421
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,360
But if I were to put a
body made of these little vortices in

422
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,440
which the speed is the speed of
light, into a beam of superphysical or

423
00:35:16,519 --> 00:35:23,800
hyperphysical energy, then the little vortices, the speed within the vortices would resonate

424
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,960
with the speed of energy in the
beam, and they would all accelerate to

425
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:32,800
the speed of the energy in the
beam to s get equilibrium. See,

426
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:37,239
so the body would vanish out of
physical space time and pop up in the

427
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:43,360
hyperphysical, superphysical world. Ladies and
gentlemen, this is beam me up Scotty.

428
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,760
You know you saw Scotty going into
the chamber and into the beam.

429
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:52,239
Well, this is basically foreseeing what's
to come because I'm actually predicting this technology.

430
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,960
I used it to explain Cybarba phenomena
and you know, used to explain

431
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:04,000
how people can appear and disappear.
Oh go. And what the extra crestrials

432
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:07,119
are doing is this is that they
are far in advance of us. They

433
00:36:07,199 --> 00:36:09,800
know all about that. They don't
bother waste their time with quantum mechanics and

434
00:36:10,199 --> 00:36:15,639
uncertainty and stuff like that. They're
already working with the votics technology, the

435
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:21,039
spiritual technology. And so what they
do is that they use these resonance beams

436
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,119
to move their craft in and out
of space time. And this is why

437
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:29,559
with uphos they appear and disappear,
you know, the suddenly they're then and

438
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:34,199
then suddenly they're gone. So rather
than moving through space time, they're moving

439
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000
in and out of space time.
And once we master this technology, will

440
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:45,280
have freedom of the universe. So
this would answer the age old question that

441
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,320
lots of people skeptics particularly, whereas
people like myself and Andy just accept that

442
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:55,360
well, they can get from there
to hear, but with some superb technology,

443
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Whereas the skeptics saying, and I
know such things the UFO because it

444
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,519
it's impossible to go beyond the speed
of light, so therefore there can't be

445
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:06,440
you of those, whereas we obviously
know there's so much data out there for

446
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,360
UFOs. So so basically you've kind
of honed in on an aspect that is

447
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,599
long being interested in, which is
about how these UFOs get from there to

448
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:21,400
here. That's right, what an
interesting Sorry I was going to say,

449
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,639
we also got an interest in life
after death on Andy, and I kind

450
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:31,920
of think that the spirit world for
whatever better word, utilizes or has awareness

451
00:37:32,119 --> 00:37:38,000
of this procedure, this natural phenomena. You're like, this natural ability to

452
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:42,400
move between worlds because they obviously do
it. They you know, and can

453
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,079
appear in our well and higher realms
or whatever you want to call it.

454
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,519
And the aliens or ET's have got
that as well. Would you would you

455
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,679
agree with that that the both o, Yes, there's that parate medians actually

456
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,480
using the same kind of thing.
Yes, what what? What I'll do

457
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:59,800
is answer the first thing, how
we deal with the skeptics. You know.

458
00:38:00,559 --> 00:38:04,840
Yeah, what I'm doing is I'm
now reorganizing myself. I'm going to

459
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,639
launch the first book bes Einstein Wright, and the first thing I do is

460
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,599
not the ground from under the skeptics
feet by rubbishing everything they believe in.

461
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,559
If I can knock out quantum mechanics, quiet theory, every single theory and

462
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:21,159
physics and and and point out that
it's a complete waste of time and money

463
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:27,320
these particle accelerators, and really just
show that these PhDs have got a clue

464
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480
about anything. Then when they come
up and they say to me, oh,

465
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:35,000
you know, we don't believe in
that, I say to them,

466
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,320
all, look before you challenge my
theory, you explain to me, you

467
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:45,599
know how the neutron fits into the
Heisenberg uncertainty principles. So by dealing by

468
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:49,960
coming in with the theoretical physics,
it gives us a very strong hand.

469
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:52,840
Now, the next thing is near
death experience, as you mentioned, and

470
00:38:53,199 --> 00:39:00,800
life after death. My book on
super energy begins with the research much of

471
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:08,920
that's going on into near death experiences, and there's an amazing chap called Sampagnier

472
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,920
in New York who's managed to get
a paper into the New York and the

473
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:19,760
annals of the New York Academy of
Science. And this paper came out signed

474
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,840
by eighteen academics from all over the
world four days before Putin and invaded Ukraine

475
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,920
on the eighteenth of February in twenty
twenty two. And basically what they said

476
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:37,920
is they've got incontrovertible evidence for the
reality of near death experiences. And the

477
00:39:38,079 --> 00:39:44,880
fact that that paper's been published in
a scientific journal, reputable scientific journal,

478
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:52,599
means that near death experiences and out
of body experiences have come into the body

479
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:55,760
of science. We can treat them
scientifically. See. So what I do

480
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:01,400
is I explain that what we're doing
is we growing two bodies simultaneously. We're

481
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:07,239
growing a body in physical energy,
which is the body we're looking at,

482
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,639
but this is just a vehicle.
And at the same time we're growing a

483
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:15,199
body in a hyperphysical or soul energy. The hyperphysical is the soul level.

484
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:20,679
We go back to here. The
physical, which is the third dimension,

485
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,719
is the body level. Then the
next level out, the hyperphysical, is

486
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,079
the level of the soul, and
the third level out is the level of

487
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:35,960
the spirit. Okay, so physical, hyper physical, superphysical body, soul

488
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:42,840
and spirit. Okay, how would
you differentiate between soul and spirit? Basically

489
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,559
on the intrinsic speed of the energy. And also there are other facts,

490
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:51,559
and there's another type of matical plasma, which is non atomic matter, and

491
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:58,039
spirit is much more in the nature
of fields. And the thing is that

492
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,800
ninety eight percent, ninety nine percent
of the universe is formed of plasma,

493
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:09,880
mainly in stars. The atomic matter
that we're in is extremely rare. So

494
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,880
the thing is that spirits are formed
of out of a completely different type of

495
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:22,000
matters, matter that's organized into fields
rather than organized into atoms. The particles

496
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:27,880
of there, the electrons and the
protons, but they're they're not informs that

497
00:41:28,039 --> 00:41:32,159
we're familiar with. But what's happened
is that these fields, this is the

498
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:38,320
life field, is organizing the two
bodies simultaneously. The hyperphysical, which is

499
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:44,400
this soul level, is atomic matter. The super physical so that's the sole

500
00:41:44,519 --> 00:41:49,920
level is atomic matter. The physical
level is atomic matter, but the superphysical

501
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,039
level is non atomic matter or plasma. Okay. Now, the thing is

502
00:41:55,159 --> 00:42:05,840
that the field life field, the
plasma field, overshadows the little Zygote at

503
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,960
the beginning, at the time of
conception, you know where the sperm goes

504
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:15,000
into the ovum. And at the
same time that whatever's happening in the three

505
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:19,000
to third dimensional world is happening in
the fourth dimension. So we're forming a

506
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:23,159
soul body in parallel to the physical
body, the third dimensional body, and

507
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:31,079
they're growing simultaneously, and there's resonance
between the soul body and the physical body

508
00:42:31,159 --> 00:42:35,800
through the DNA molecule. The DNA
molecular is a coil. It's just like

509
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,920
a coil and a radio set or
a television set. So I've got this

510
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:44,360
whole section in my work in the
book on super energy called DNA resonance,

511
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,559
which explains the way that the soul
body resonates through the physical body. So

512
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,480
the thing is that the mind,
the cognitive faculties are held in the soul

513
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:59,400
body, in the hyper physical body, not in the physical body. It's

514
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:04,719
like the physical body is just the
vehicle for the soul to come into,

515
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,239
for the soul body to come into, and then so what happens the death

516
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,199
of the physical body. It's no
different to simply shreddy shedding, a snake

517
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,960
shedding its skin it's simply the the
you know, we step out of the

518
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:25,039
car, the car is scrapped,
and the soul body goes on. And

519
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:30,400
the soul body is identical to the
physical body. Which is why people when

520
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:36,239
they pass over, they're greeted by
their grandmother. She's recognizable because she's got

521
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:39,000
a body. It's identical to the
body she had when she was physically here.

522
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:43,079
I mean, this is I call
it the two body dilemma. When

523
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:46,480
people have an outer body experience,
they're inner body looking down at their body,

524
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,280
and they're confused. So we need
this physic so people are prepared for

525
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,159
the passage on. People need to
know that their eternal beings, that they

526
00:43:54,559 --> 00:44:00,440
death is just like shedding the skin. It's just like taking off an overcoat.

527
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,039
It's just like stepping out of the
motor car, you know. And

528
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,800
there's so much there's so much learning
that needs to be done. There's such

529
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,880
a desperate need for this physics.
We've just got to get out there and

530
00:44:13,159 --> 00:44:17,159
clear the crap of contemporary science.
I mean, there's so much hogwash,

531
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:23,679
there is so much stupidity. You
describe the belief in materialism in your quite

532
00:44:23,679 --> 00:44:30,119
a lot that yea is a materialism, that's right, which is completely h

533
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:35,800
you know, Einstein disagrete materialism.
You know, Einstein's difficult to understand,

534
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,119
not because of his maths or his
theorist but because of his worldview. He

535
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,320
said that matter and light are real, but there's no substance to them.

536
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,480
And so the thing is that materialism
is the idea. With materialism, it's

537
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:53,320
such a simple idea, and that
is that the idea of materialism is the

538
00:44:53,880 --> 00:45:00,239
particle of material substance, call it
an atom or a quark, exists and

539
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:07,719
moves. And Einstein said no.
Einstein said E equals mc squared. M

540
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:13,239
is the material that stands for mass
and material. And the thing that comes

541
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,039
first is e the energy, and
the energy is linked to mass and material

542
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:21,920
by sea, which is a speed
of light. In other words, you

543
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,039
know, mass is not a material
substance. It's a vortex. It's spinning

544
00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:30,960
light. You get the light and
you make it spin, and that's how

545
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:36,840
you get the mass. This is
this shows you're presially equals empty squared equals

546
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,119
empty squared says there's vast amounts of
energy in minute amounts of matter and the

547
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:45,039
hydrogen bomb, I mean that are
vast amounts of wool in one tiny little

548
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:47,880
ball. You see, it's a
very compact form of wool, very compact

549
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,320
form of energy. So all these
mysteries are revealed. I mean, look

550
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:55,840
in my book, in my in
my essays. In this book. Here

551
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:04,920
I can explain nuclear energy in one
paragraph. Richard Feynman. Richard Feyman,

552
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,559
one of the greatest physicists of the
twentieth century, said this. He said,

553
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,119
nuclear energy. We have the formulas
for that, but not the fundamental

554
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,119
understanding. We know it's not gravitational, we know it's not chemical. We

555
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:22,480
know it's not electrisical. They're electrical, but we don't know what it is.

556
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:29,280
And I've explained it with the vortex
theory in one paragraph. Isn't it?

557
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:34,199
Isn't there a thing of Traditionally the
dangerous type of nuclear energy is fishing.

558
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,800
But they've just about cracked fusion.
That's correct. It's much safer,

559
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,840
yup, and you don't use it. Well, you do use it in

560
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,760
the bomb, you use it in
the hydrogen bomb, but it's almost like

561
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:51,599
you know, Einstein said his greatest
mistake was to send that letter to Roosevelt,

562
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:54,880
which kicked off the Manhattan Project,
which kicked off the development of nuclear

563
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:02,639
weapons because they thought that an the
Nazis may develop the bomb. But then,

564
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:07,360
as it turned out, the Nazis
had kicked out all the Jewish physicists,

565
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,400
so they couldn't They didn't have the
brain power to make a bomb.

566
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,400
But anyway, I don't think there
was a mistake. I think we human

567
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:20,119
beings have had to have the option, the opportunity to exterminate ourselves. We

568
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,480
have a choice, free choice.
We've got to be given that choice.

569
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:29,920
Are we gonna destroy ourselves completely?
Or are we going to learn about love?

570
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,239
Are we going to learn about forgiveness? Are we going to you know,

571
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,159
sort ourselves out? And so I
think it's very exciting that we're living

572
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,079
on the knife edge. You know, will will they or will they not

573
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:45,599
push the button anymore? I tell
you what. It makes it a thriller

574
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,760
because you see, if this is
a dream, you know, and if

575
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,519
we are the supreme consciousness in our
physical bodies, you know that little chant

576
00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:57,880
nam Getko it simply says that we
are in the universe, but the universe

577
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,159
is in us. You know,
every thing is in us, the source

578
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:06,480
consciousnesses on us. So we are
the actors were the theater production with the

579
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:13,440
audience, with the director, the
producer of this amazing show called Human Human

580
00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:16,679
Life. Okay, and we and
the ticket to the theater is a body.

581
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,480
You've got to take on a body
and you enter this three D virtual

582
00:48:20,559 --> 00:48:22,119
reality. It's like, if you
think of the way it's going, it's

583
00:48:22,159 --> 00:48:25,280
going this way, isn't it?
With AI and what have you. So

584
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:31,199
we step into these little bodies and
we we come into this we come into

585
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,719
this show. And now we're coming
right to the end of the show,

586
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,159
and it's really getting a thriller.
Are we going to blow ourselves to the

587
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:46,159
gum ar? Are we not?
You know? Oh that people like I

588
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,519
mean they're talking about people like Biden's
got his finger on the button, but

589
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,519
I'm more afraid that he might nod
off on the button. I love it.

590
00:48:55,679 --> 00:49:00,880
I love it. I love it. There's a So there's a thing

591
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,280
with ghosts that I've always been fascinated
with. With many people that have seen

592
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:12,320
spirits and things like that, they
always described them standing in doorways or windows

593
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,800
or frames of some sort. And
I met a lady many many many years

594
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:22,960
ago in the early nineties, and
she described that she wasn't a spiritualist or

595
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:28,159
anything like that, and she had
no experience of ghosts or spirits except on

596
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,800
this particularcation that she happened to tell
me. She says, I told my

597
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:35,440
doctor and he thought he laughed at
me, basically, she said. But

598
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:38,239
she said that she was helping her
husband who was very, very ill,

599
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:43,199
and she was straight in his pillows
one day, and he was so we

600
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,000
had to breathe through an oxygen mask. And one day she was straight in

601
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:49,360
his potron as he lay ell in
bed and he just said, I want

602
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,800
to die. I want to dine
in and he said with that he literally

603
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,079
just died in her arms, and
she laid him back down. She said

604
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:59,719
she saw this vaporous mist come out
of his chest and it rose up towards

605
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,320
the sea and went across the ceiling
and went into the airing cupboard in the

606
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,400
corner of the bedroom. And then
she said six months later she'd wake up

607
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,320
in the middle of the night.
Something prompted her to wake up, and

608
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,880
she says she saw and this is
the words she used, coming from her

609
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,880
generation, I suppose, she said, a red Indian. Now today we

610
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,159
call it Native American, nor what
everyone wore it. But she said,

611
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,599
a red Indian coming out of the
cupboard. And he was doing this,

612
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:27,519
and said if he was trying to
claw his way out the airing cupboard.

613
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,760
But she could only come from the
chest upwards, but she could clearly see

614
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:35,960
his feathered headdress, his war paint, and even a bow necklace he had

615
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,719
on. And she said she thought
she saw two people behind him that he

616
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,000
was leading through the cupboard. And
she said it didn't happen just once,

617
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:46,320
it happened like many times, many
nights, it was happening. And she

618
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,079
goes, what do you think's happening
now? I said to hers, said,

619
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:52,840
I suspect that your husband's soul was
the myst that you saw coming out

620
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:58,000
of his chest went into the air, and he went into the air and

621
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:00,480
cupboard. I said, And I
think the your airing cupboard is like a

622
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:05,760
revolving doorway in a hotel lobby.
You can go in it, but you

623
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,119
can come out of it. And
I said, no, I think your

624
00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:10,400
husband's trying to come back with this
spirit guy. She had no idea what

625
00:51:10,519 --> 00:51:15,760
spirit guy, as were all Native
American spirit guys, yet she clearly described

626
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,840
one. And so I said,
I suspect the man that was in the

627
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:24,079
shadows behind this Native American gentleman was
possibly our husband, and he was bringing

628
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,400
him back rather as a bus driver
would bring him back to town. And

629
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,639
he was leading him through this cupboard, but he could only come through so

630
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:37,400
far. Presumably it was difficult for
whatever reason. And I've become fascinated with

631
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:43,559
the idea of doorways and window frames
and things like that acting as a kind

632
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:47,119
of portal world time thing. The
word I was to come popped into my

633
00:51:47,159 --> 00:51:52,119
head. Portals definitely. Yeah,
So what do you think of that?

634
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,159
Then? Really fascinating, really fascinating, because what we're seeing, you,

635
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,480
First of all, we've got the
she's seen the myst which is the uh,

636
00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:07,360
the hyper physical soul body leaving the
physical body and rising up. And

637
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,960
a lot of people when they they
when they go through the mere death experience,

638
00:52:12,039 --> 00:52:15,639
they rise up this and they look
down on their bodies. See,

639
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:22,360
so her husband would have been there
in his hyper physical body looking down from

640
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,960
the you know, from the heights. And it's interesting this whole thing of

641
00:52:27,079 --> 00:52:31,000
going into the airing cupboard and just
disappearing through a portal. There's obviously a

642
00:52:31,119 --> 00:52:37,400
portal in that airing cupboard whereabouts was
she living. She was living in the

643
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:44,440
town of Great Mistingdon in Buckinghamshire.
So yeah, that that that's that's it's

644
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,199
a part of this cut. Yeah, it's it. There's obviously, for

645
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,719
some reason or other, there's some
sort of portal. It's a bit like

646
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,880
the Narnia stories, you know of
the portal in the back of the wardrobe.

647
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:59,599
It's the same sort of thing,
you know that. Uh, it

648
00:52:59,679 --> 00:53:04,960
could that because he went through the
airing compan he created the portal as he

649
00:53:05,039 --> 00:53:09,599
went through. Yeah, yeah,
you know, it could be he haunts

650
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:15,400
that portal in the sense that because
you move out of the physical time,

651
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:20,599
the time we move into is a
hyper physical time, and so the passage

652
00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:23,079
of time on the physical plane has
no bearing on the passage of time and

653
00:53:23,159 --> 00:53:29,440
the hyper physical So the point is
that, you know, years could pass

654
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,320
down here, but for him it
could be just well, he's still where

655
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,360
he ended up in the airing cup. But then it could be that a

656
00:53:36,519 --> 00:53:42,159
husband is almost like acting as a
portal. He's holding the door open,

657
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,119
if you see what I mean,
so that these other spirits can come through.

658
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:51,400
How many air we are Neil,
Yeah, I spent they're very dry

659
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:58,400
by right now. Well, you
see, this is the thing that leads

660
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,760
me to physical salences. Where these
mediums like the Great Helen Duncan and other

661
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:07,400
I know, you know these cabinets, you know, these materialization cabinets.

662
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,840
They would go and see sit in
there, fall asleep for all intents and

663
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,239
purposes. Then her guide Albert would
come out the cupboard of the air and

664
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,599
cupboard. Sorry that the physical salance
cupboard, but rather like an air and

665
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:23,880
cupboard. And so I suspect that
the air in cupboard was acting in a

666
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:30,440
similar fashion to the salance cabinet procedure. Where my theory, and of course

667
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,119
I'm not a physicist, but I
kind of just built up this idea in

668
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,159
the same way that the spirit builds
up a physical form inside the materialization cabinet.

669
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,039
I said to a medium, I
says, why do you need these

670
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:45,679
cabinets? He said, it helps
contain the energy. So I kind of

671
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:52,360
theorized that maybe as this energy forms, it is contained within this cupboard structure

672
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:55,159
as it bounces around or does what
it has to do, and when it's

673
00:54:55,199 --> 00:55:00,159
solidified, it's rather like opening an
up anothern door. You take in a

674
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,719
liquid cake mix and at the right
temperature it's now reached the shape and desired

675
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,960
state that it needs to be a
solid structure of a cake. And you

676
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,840
open the oven door and you bring
it out the oven. And in the

677
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,639
same way that these spiritual beings did, they formed themselves into solid beings and

678
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:21,920
they come out the sales cabinet.
And I suspect that in a sort of

679
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:31,199
similar fashion that the airing cupboard was
a kind of an invertantary. The ship

680
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:37,800
didn't of the home rather like state
where many nostria strange. Note, you

681
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,199
flashed off and flashed on again.
That's the spirit for you. So I

682
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,719
suspect that the Native American Indian came
out the cupboard rather than like a spirit

683
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,760
would do in a sance. Maybe
not as a fully fledged physical being,

684
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,039
but something almost like that. Well, that don't know what happens. So

685
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:58,000
that is an issue of vector plasm
which Helen Duncan worked with. Now again

686
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:02,079
we need to go back to the
water. There's enough another aspect to this

687
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:08,480
technology, the resonance technology, and
this is what's and how Jesus fed the

688
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:15,280
five thousand. Okay, you can
beam super energy, which is energy beyond

689
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,800
the speed of light, which is
either hyper physical or superphysical, but it's

690
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,239
it's the twice the speed of light
energy. It is the hyper physical.

691
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,840
But I use the word super energy
for generic for all energy beyond the speed

692
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,679
of light. What you can do
is you can be super energy through an

693
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:37,039
atomic matrix, in other words,
through the shape of the vortex. And

694
00:56:37,159 --> 00:56:43,840
what happens is that the super energy
condenses through the shape of the vortex and

695
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,559
takes on that shape. So what
happens is that with Jesus when he called

696
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,920
on the loaves and the fishes,
he put his hands over the loaves and

697
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:57,280
the fishes and he said his prayers. He was blessing. Well, actually

698
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,920
no, the hands were the anchor
point through which the spirit world could come

699
00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:07,280
into. It's like his hands were
with the portal. And then when he

700
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:14,800
was praying, it was actually communicating
with his hyperphysical super energy resonance operator.

701
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,679
But that's a bit of a mouthful, so we just call it the genie

702
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,000
for makes it a bit simpler.
His spirit guide, you see the idea.

703
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,679
And what happened is that the spirit
guide had like a laser beam and

704
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:31,760
they they beamed the super energy through
the where Jesus was holding his hands over

705
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,760
the loaves, and the fishes,
and they duplicated the loaves and the fishes

706
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,159
because all the super energy was condensing
through the atomic matter to replicate the shape

707
00:57:42,199 --> 00:57:45,199
of the atomic matter. And there
were He fed five thousand people, and

708
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,880
there were twelve basketfuls of loaves and
fishes left over at the end of the

709
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,360
meal. So it's the magic porridge
pop miracle, you see. And so

710
00:57:54,599 --> 00:58:00,400
farther does it. You can go
on you two seaside barber pulling the booty

711
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,800
out of a jar, making great
mountain of it. So again he's using

712
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,960
his hand as the anchor point.
So going back to the portals and the

713
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:14,440
doorways, there's this thing called ectoplasma, which is like the precipitation of the

714
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:22,079
hyperphysical energy into into physical matters,
rather like steam condensing, isn't it You

715
00:58:22,199 --> 00:58:27,679
know, water vapor condensing into steam, which condenses into water which it settles

716
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:32,000
into ice. So what color would
you say exoplasma is because it's very silvery

717
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:37,880
white, silvery white illuminus. It's
slowing the silvery white. There's a wonderful

718
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,360
example of it. You can see
photographs. I've got a photograph in my

719
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:49,039
book which is Zutin when Nery appeared
in zutin To and she if I can

720
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:55,639
find it, she'd fill the hole
of the night's sky and covered it.

721
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Oh that's it. I've got it. I've got it. I've got it.

722
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,719
There we go. If you can
see it, got it? Opened

723
00:59:02,719 --> 00:59:06,199
it on the state line, you
know, as you would do. I

724
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:12,280
know, spirits helping you. Can
you see all the ectoplasm and the figure

725
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,519
of the mother. Millions I saw
this on the BBC News of the nineteen

726
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:20,840
seventies. Millions of people saw this, you see, So in a way,

727
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:28,159
what happened for that Native American to
manifest? You know, you get

728
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,639
the ectoplasm forming first, and then
the form of the Native American forms in

729
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:37,360
the actor plasm. So it's much
better to contain the ectoplasm in a space

730
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:43,199
with Helen Duncan you see the ectoplasm
came out of her tummy and out of

731
00:59:43,239 --> 00:59:47,440
her nostrils, and then other sort
of swirling actor bathplasm formed the image of

732
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:52,719
this lovely girl. I tell the
story in here, and the girl turns

733
00:59:52,840 --> 01:00:00,119
up in the room and she and
she has a rose that she gives to

734
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,480
what gives to her mother who's in
the audience, And the mother sobbing.

735
01:00:04,639 --> 01:00:09,519
She so moved and Doris Stokes was
that was there in the seance. And

736
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:14,840
the girl offered her hand to Doris
Stokes and said take my hand. And

737
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,039
she felt the hand and she thought
it would be sort of a theory and

738
01:00:17,079 --> 01:00:21,800
a misty and it wasn't. It
was solid and it was warm. It

739
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,880
was a real living human hand.
I mean, she's absolutely flabbergasted. So

740
01:00:27,559 --> 01:00:31,840
you know, these are real materializations
of atomic matter on physical matter. And

741
01:00:32,119 --> 01:00:36,639
what you're doing is you're slowing down
the speed of the energy. You're condensing

742
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:40,119
the speed of the energy through the
waters, through the ectoplasm, through the

743
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:46,280
lobes and the fishes, through the
booty ash, and you know, actually

744
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:52,800
creating the form in physical matter that
you desire. I've got an anecdog,

745
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,719
David, that you might like.
And she worked by me. I'm saying,

746
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,920
I won't name her, but it's
a friend of mine, and you'll

747
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:02,719
find this is absolutely fascinating. And
Neil, don't think I don't think you've

748
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,800
heard this one either. So there's
a friend of mine and I won't name

749
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:12,320
her, but she has told this
story and it's it's kind of tragic but

750
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,480
also quite heartwarming. At the same
time, her fiance they were going to

751
01:01:17,519 --> 01:01:22,800
get married, unfortunately passed away in
a car accident. And this happened I

752
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:29,519
think it was last year, actually
a while ago. She was absolutely devastated.

753
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:31,480
They were due to be married.
They were kind of like he was

754
01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:35,400
the love of her life and she
was the love of his life. And

755
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:39,800
she was distraught, and for ages
and ages, she was crying and couldn't

756
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,880
get to sleep, and was really
kind of cut up about it. One

757
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,440
particular night, she says, and
I will describe it as best as she

758
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:52,440
described to me. She and she
has had I will say she has had

759
01:01:52,519 --> 01:01:59,239
paranormal activity and ghostly things happen in
her life. She says that one night

760
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:05,800
she was sobbing herself to sleep,
basically thinking about her partner in the spirit

761
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,159
at that time, and she felt
like a pressure on the bed, as

762
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,480
if somebody was sitting on the bed. She looked up, and this is

763
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:19,960
where it gets fascinating. She saw
an image of him, of his face

764
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:23,039
and his body. But she said
it looked like almost like a bad photo

765
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:27,320
copy. It was kind of it
was black and white, and it was

766
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,239
definitely him, but it was almost
like a bad photo copy. And then

767
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:37,440
she felt her hand being physically held, physically held by his hand, but

768
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,960
she felt it was very very cold. It was a very cold hand,

769
01:02:42,079 --> 01:02:45,280
but it was solid. It wasn't
kind of like a you know, like

770
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:49,719
an etheric kind of like mystic kind
of like thing. It wasn't actual as

771
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,880
if somebody had a physical, solid
hand. And she held this hand for

772
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,800
a while and that really calmed her
down, and she said she needed that

773
01:02:58,639 --> 01:03:02,119
and she really needed that kind of
connection and and he I think what she

774
01:03:02,199 --> 01:03:06,800
said was she she saw his face
and he was smiling, and it seemed

775
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,440
like a strange kind of like black
and white. She she described it as

776
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:15,039
almost two dimensional, two dimensional type
face, and then it just faded,

777
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:19,000
and then the sensation of being held
faded, and then she kind of drifted

778
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:22,440
off to sleep. And that that
really has helped her. Obviously, she's

779
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,159
still very sad and she's very upset
about it, but that almost kind of

780
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,119
like was him trying to let her
know that she was okay. But the

781
01:03:31,239 --> 01:03:37,239
fascinating parts are how how he manifested
himself as as almost like a two D

782
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:43,360
photo copy, and then like with
the hand as like a like a like

783
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:49,000
an ice cold kind of solid formation. Yeah, this is really fascinating because

784
01:03:49,519 --> 01:03:52,960
you know what you're dealing with here
is if it was Helen Duncan, who

785
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:58,800
was one of the greatest materialization mediums
has ever been, he could more than

786
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:05,280
likely have manifested in a whole warm
body and for her. But and obviously

787
01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:10,719
it was like it sounds like a
hologram, you know, that black and

788
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:15,039
white image. And so it's like
working with the technology and doing the best

789
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:19,760
they could under the circumstances to get
some sort of manifestation there through for her.

790
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:26,360
And it's like the best they could
do in the way of the materialization

791
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:30,119
is the hand, which is what
she really needed to hold, and they

792
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:35,000
couldn't get it like good enough to
be warm. It's almost like and you

793
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:41,280
know these operators and that they're they're
learning and they're working. You know,

794
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:46,280
it's almost it's such a dense it's
so difficult to manifest into this physical world.

795
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:50,920
And also at this time when humanity
that you know, the resonance is

796
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:56,079
so low, the frequencies are so
low, humanity is so far away from

797
01:04:56,159 --> 01:05:00,840
spirit. The world is so materialistic, so dense, it it's it's far

798
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:05,920
harder for these manifestations to occur than
they would in a in a more ethereal

799
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:09,960
time. I think I think you're
right. I think he was. I

800
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,519
think that's exactly what it was,
because he was quite fresh into spirit,

801
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:17,480
he was, and and he's lost
his physical body and what he looked like,

802
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:24,880
he was trying to do his best
from his energetic perspective. That's it,

803
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:30,199
you started, Yeah, you go. He was probably helped as well

804
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:34,039
by the spirits. Oh yeah,
and I'll buy the spirits very much so.

805
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:38,039
But it was it's more than likely
a group of them together, and

806
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,960
you know, it was dust.
They were kind of like fudging it and

807
01:05:42,039 --> 01:05:45,880
trying to do their guests with wax
and solitope, you know what I mean.

808
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:51,440
Just like a follow on for that. She actually had an odd experience

809
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:57,119
with me in the car with her
fascinating one. So back in Halloween,

810
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:01,400
we have a tradition, myself and
this friend of mine and sometimes other friends,

811
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,559
if you contract them, we go
off to kind of like zombie scare

812
01:06:04,639 --> 01:06:08,880
maizes. So you go to a
scare maize, you get chased by zombies

813
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,800
and all that kind of thing,
and we love kind of like the Halloween

814
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,480
shlock horror of it. Anyway,
we were driving back. We were on

815
01:06:15,559 --> 01:06:18,719
the M twenty five. She was
driving, I was the passenger, and

816
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:26,000
she said something along along the lines
of, oh, we're actually talking about

817
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:30,400
him, the fiance, and there's
this car that was trying to cut her

818
01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:32,000
up, and he's being a bit
of a pain, and obviously he had

819
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:36,400
passed away. He actually passed away
through a car accident. And she said

820
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:41,000
something along the lines of I'll let
him go. You know, it's probably

821
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:44,400
best not to kind of like play
up to that kind of thing, or

822
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:47,400
something like that. I'm paraphrasing.
And she looked at me and she said,

823
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,280
did you just call me a good
girl? And I said, no,

824
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,199
what are you talking about, because
that's not the kind of thing I

825
01:06:55,239 --> 01:06:57,679
would say. I wouldn't. I'm
not the kind of person that would say

826
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,159
good girl. And she said,
you know, as soon as I said

827
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:05,000
that about letting that guy go past
me, I thought, you just said

828
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:08,800
good girl. And I said,
no, I didn't say good girl.

829
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:14,920
She heard somebody a male voice saying
good girl like that good girl. It

830
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:19,000
wasn't me. That's not my vernacular. I don't, you know, I

831
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,639
don't. I'm sure he didn't.
The spirit didn't mean it in a patronizing

832
01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:27,360
way. But I wouldn't say because
I would deem it to be slightly patronizing,

833
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,840
you know, oh, good girl
kind of thing. But he would

834
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,239
have said it in a way that's
not patronizing. But it wasn't me that

835
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,079
said it. It's not my language
in vernacular, but it was his.

836
01:07:34,239 --> 01:07:36,679
It was the kind of thing that
he would say. So I was in

837
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,239
the car when she experienced that,
and I just looked at her, like,

838
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,320
what the hell are you talking about? But she heard it clearly,

839
01:07:43,679 --> 01:07:46,440
very very clearly in the car.
Yeah, it's so interesting because you see

840
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:51,800
he's there, that fiance of hers, in his soul body. Yeah,

841
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,559
and he can see her, he
can touch her, he can feel that,

842
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,440
he can hug her because she's in
his in his world, you know,

843
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:06,440
because the physical is part of is
a subset of the hyperphysical. But

844
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,639
she can't see him. He can
see her, and it's very frustrating for

845
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,920
him, and for him to try
to get break back into the physical world

846
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:20,199
is incredibly difficult. But this is
where new medium's come in, because you

847
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:24,760
know, the medium as a person
who's kind of like bridges the world.

848
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:30,239
You've got psychic abilities, you're not
completely condensed into this world. They're like

849
01:08:30,359 --> 01:08:33,880
spiritual gifts. And so when she's
in the car with you, Andrew,

850
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:39,119
because you're in the car, the
veils are thinner, so he can reach

851
01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:43,159
to her. He can sort of
whisper in her ear. And I mean,

852
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:47,640
she's she needs to know that,
you know, her time flies and

853
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:51,880
when he's there, he's just through
the veil. She needs to know that

854
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,720
he's still alive, he's young,
he's beautiful, and they're going to be

855
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,800
together very very soon. But in
the meantime, while she she's stuck down

856
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:05,680
here and he's up there here,
she can explore all this just like enjoying

857
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,560
it in a plateful sense, not
in a not in an emotional sense.

858
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,520
If she can get away from the
emotion and just treat it, well,

859
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,039
let's see if I can you know, just have a you know, if

860
01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:19,159
he wants to reach her, if
he's trying to sort of reach her,

861
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:23,840
then with the help of your medium, she can sort of just enjoy a

862
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:28,039
bit of interaction with him, and
and and a little bit of banter and

863
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:30,239
some humor. And because it can
help him as well, you know,

864
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:33,960
if she if she can just let
go and have total faith that it's okay,

865
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:40,159
he's there and not be grieving too
much. You know, that helps

866
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:43,279
him a lot, you see.
I think it's definitely helped her. I

867
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,800
mean she's she's obviously, you know, sad about it, but she needed

868
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,840
that, she needed that connection and
she got it. And that is a

869
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,479
that is a attitude actually is it
is quite laid back, and she is

870
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,439
fantastic. She she does love banter
and she does love humor. And yeah,

871
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,039
yeah, the more she can banter
of them, that's the best thing,

872
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:03,760
you know. Yeah, I'll just
say this before we come to the

873
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:08,880
break in a few minutes, just
to take a short break, but I'll

874
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,800
just say talking to cars and spirits, I remember driving along again on the

875
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,920
M twenty five, but I was
doing the driving. I was dropping a

876
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,520
friend of mine off at the house, and we was coming into the Uxbridge

877
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,960
area, not you know, about
ten minutes away, and she's talking to

878
01:10:23,079 --> 01:10:25,720
me and as she looked at me, she went, oh my god,

879
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,279
and took a deep breath, and
I said, what she goes, I've

880
01:10:28,359 --> 01:10:31,960
just seen someone but they're totally white, sit in the back seat, leaning

881
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:38,279
forward, putting their arms around me. Driving. But she couldn't see her

882
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:42,039
head, but for some reason she
felt it was a male person. So

883
01:10:42,079 --> 01:10:45,319
I was being hugged by spirit if
you like. As I'm driving along,

884
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:50,800
well drops off and this was I
was on the twenty five coming into towards

885
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,920
Uxbridge area. Yeah, you know, sort of getting waiting for the exit

886
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,159
to come off there, you know, around Heathrow or somewhere like that.

887
01:10:57,279 --> 01:11:00,279
Yeah. So I don't know if
this was spirit guide or someone that knew

888
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:02,359
me, but it kind of thought, oh god, it is my number

889
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,039
up or something, you know,
because I'm in a car. So are

890
01:11:05,039 --> 01:11:09,359
they kind of cut? Are they
waiting in the car to take me over

891
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,600
or something? You know, But
nothing obviously happened. That was like twelve

892
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,279
years ago. Yeah, just another
ghost in the machine, as they say.

893
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,159
But yeah, so I think what
we do would take a break now,

894
01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:23,479
if that's all right for every hole, just take quickly. But before

895
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,399
I forget. Very often I get
reports because I've got a group chat with

896
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,760
my readers. Very often if we've
done a mediumship night and we'll go home,

897
01:11:31,399 --> 01:11:33,680
a lot of my mediums will say, well, as I was driving

898
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,159
home, I saw a spirit at
the side, and it was definitely spirit

899
01:11:36,199 --> 01:11:40,319
because it kind of disappeared. I
get that quite a lot, quite a

900
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:45,279
lot. Wow Wow, excellent.
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901
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:55,039
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902
01:11:55,159 --> 01:12:00,199
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903
01:12:00,279 --> 01:12:04,880
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904
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:10,039
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905
01:12:10,279 --> 01:12:16,680
fascinating information. Hi folks, welcome
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906
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,159
myself, Andy and Neil, and
we're with David Ash Neil. Have you

907
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:31,000
got a question for David? Yes, Welcome back everybody, and welcome back

908
01:12:31,079 --> 01:12:34,920
David. And David soon changed into
a hat through the power of spirit materialization

909
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:43,319
to the other side. By the
sound of it, Yeah, I think

910
01:12:43,359 --> 01:12:49,000
string theory has got a bit too
far and knitted in my hat. So

911
01:12:49,319 --> 01:12:53,159
we've been talking about your book,
David, and you've got a really good

912
01:12:53,239 --> 01:12:58,880
chapter which I haven't actually got to
yet, about the famous wartime medium Helen

913
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,880
Duncan. Why did you try to
why did you choose to put her in

914
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:11,439
your book? Well, because she's
one of the greatest materialization mediums on record,

915
01:13:12,039 --> 01:13:15,439
and it's it's the way she used
to work with ectoplasm that fits him

916
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,399
in my physics, you see,
because you know, part of the work

917
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:27,239
I'm doing is using evidence from the
supernatural and spiritual purer normal to substantiate that,

918
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,239
you know, that the claims the
theory that I'm making about the you

919
01:13:32,319 --> 01:13:36,520
know, about super energy. So
Helen Duncan, the evidence that she brought

920
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:43,760
through is very important for the substantiation
of my pieces that there are dimensions beyond

921
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,079
the speed of light, you see, that we can access. And and

922
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:51,399
she was treated most horrendously, most
cruelly, and she still is by skeptics

923
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:56,479
getting onto the Wikipedia page, and
you know, they really rubbish Helen Duncan

924
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,520
on that. So you believe which
even spirit and all salted nonsense. I

925
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,000
mean, that's what I love.
I love trashing them atism. I just

926
01:14:06,159 --> 01:14:11,119
love trashing their quantum clinics. So
it's all a great big lie, you

927
01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:14,039
know, it's all it's all just
phone. You know, that's where the

928
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:16,520
phony is. They want to look
at themselves, these idiots and see how

929
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,319
phone all their stuff is. You
know, they don't need to look at

930
01:14:20,359 --> 01:14:26,760
someone like Alan Duncan. Duncan is
dealing with the real stuff, well dad,

931
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,560
So yeah, she was put away
under the one of the very archaic

932
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,520
old laws, which is one of
the ones they managed to dig up.

933
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,840
Basically they needed to put away to
the remainder of the war because basically,

934
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,680
for those that don't know, Alan
Duncan was a Scottish medium who was a

935
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,000
materialization medium and during the World War
Two she approperated all around the country,

936
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:51,920
but certainly to a degree a bird
work was in Portsmouth, which is the

937
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:58,920
home of the British name, and
she was bringing back dead sailors from various

938
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,520
sunken ships and they were materializing in
the sales room and calling out the other

939
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,159
whoever was there to greet them,
and they were saying, you know,

940
01:15:06,319 --> 01:15:11,199
I've died on the HMS Hood or
the HMS Bahanam or whatever the ship maybe

941
01:15:11,239 --> 01:15:16,920
I can't remember now. And basically
the word was getting around that you know,

942
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:23,319
these these ships were being sunk around
the British Isles and they didn't want

943
01:15:23,319 --> 01:15:26,000
people to know about it. Basically, the British Navy didn't want people to

944
01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:30,880
know about it, so they adopted
so I believe this this mock kind of

945
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,640
trial again, so that these fortune
charges. She was arrested and tried as

946
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:42,760
a witch, which is an old
seventeen hundreds kind of law, being accused

947
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:49,000
of witch craft, and they managed
to bring up enough dodgy characters to slay

948
01:15:49,079 --> 01:15:51,720
her down and put her away for
something like nine months, which was for

949
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:58,920
the because they wanted their D Day
battle plans to be kept secret and they

950
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,359
were afraid that she might release those
plans somehow through the mediumship. I think

951
01:16:05,359 --> 01:16:09,680
genuine foreigner, I think for memory
that actually thought she might be a German

952
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,600
spy because the establishment didn't believe in
the spooky wubu, so they thought,

953
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,199
where is she getting this information from? Was there some kind of you know,

954
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:23,439
collaboration with the naswers going oh well, I find that quite comforting actually,

955
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:28,760
because yeah, I think if her
incarceration was linked to the war and

956
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:33,000
linked to security in regard to the
war, and in a sense in wartime,

957
01:16:33,239 --> 01:16:36,680
it's justifiable. You know, if
you've got any suspicion about anyone,

958
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:42,680
even if you don't really understand the
more cope with what's going on, you

959
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,640
just bang them away for the duration
of the war. So it can look

960
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:50,159
as that's what was going on,
Is that more than a malicious attack on

961
01:16:50,279 --> 01:16:57,079
her as a medium? And I
believe the witchcraft acting question was repealed in

962
01:16:57,159 --> 01:17:00,399
something like nineteen fifty one, nineteen
fifty two, that kind of like that

963
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,560
that spurred on the spiritualist movement,
certainly in Britain. Yeah, yeah,

964
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:09,279
yeah, they realized they had to
get rid of that, repeal that act

965
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:14,439
pretty cuccause someone else will be digging
exactly. Yeah. Well, they're replaced

966
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:17,039
it with a Fraudulent Medium Act,
which is an interesting activist So by calling

967
01:17:17,039 --> 01:17:19,920
it the fraudulent medium it means that
you can get tried for being through a

968
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:26,279
fraudulent mediumship. So that suggests then
that if you're you're you're done. Fraudulent

969
01:17:26,399 --> 01:17:31,399
mediumship. They're actually without actually saying
there must have been agreed to be seen,

970
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,359
that there must be a genuine mediumship. Otherwise why would they try you

971
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:41,520
against fraudulent mediumship? You see?
And so the establishment kind of accepted it

972
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,439
in quotes, but they don't really
want to face it, which I'll do

973
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,479
in drastic Yeah. Yeah, Well
I think that there's a game the game

974
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:53,359
Changers and the death experiences, because
you know, people are coming back from

975
01:17:53,399 --> 01:17:57,880
the dead by the million now,
and it's prophesied in the Bible, isn't

976
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,680
it in the end times people be
rising from the grave. Well, you

977
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,479
know, they didn't see exactly how
it's going to happen, but you know,

978
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,000
if people being brought back from the
dead by resuscitation techniques, isn't it

979
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,359
what is so On the one hand, you know, we talked about the

980
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,359
dark the shadow side of medicine,
you know, and what goes on with

981
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,119
the big pharmaceutical companies and that.
But on the other hand, there's this

982
01:18:23,239 --> 01:18:30,239
other side of medicine where they're developing
resuscitation techniques and are really proving through resuscitation

983
01:18:30,039 --> 01:18:34,439
life after death. So I mean, it's and the reality of the spiritual

984
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,680
realms and we go somewhere and we
meet our grandmothers. And the other thing

985
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:45,560
it's so embarrassing for them is that
the figure that is behind these near death

986
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,439
experiences more than anything else is JC
Jesus, And I mean that is a

987
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:55,000
really really big source of embarrassment when
they try to study it scientifically. But

988
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,159
it seems as though he's working miracles
and they're people who are surviving death and

989
01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:02,800
coming back he really shouldn't. I
mean, there's one story of a guy

990
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:08,279
where he was rock climbing and there
was a rock fall and a great big

991
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:13,159
rock fell on his chest and they
managed to get this rock off him,

992
01:19:13,239 --> 01:19:16,000
you know, when eventually they found
him and his whole chest was caved in,

993
01:19:16,079 --> 01:19:19,920
all his vital organs, his hard
everything crushed, and they managed to

994
01:19:20,039 --> 01:19:25,600
get him back, particular the hospital. He made a miraculous recovery and they're

995
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:28,680
all saying, how the hell did
he do that? Well, when he

996
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,399
was on the other side, he
bet Jesus, and Jesus said, well,

997
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,520
you can go back if you want. You know, you've got the

998
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,840
choice. And said, yeah,
well I think I would like to go

999
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,399
back because I've got my little boy, you know, got their family.

1000
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,760
He said, okay, well you
can go back. I'll look after you.

1001
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:47,680
And Jesus does one of the zeving
miracles on this guy's body. He

1002
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,039
steps back into it. You know, I mean, the whole thing is

1003
01:19:51,159 --> 01:19:57,159
outrageous. It just it's just it's
just so such a joy. What's going

1004
01:19:57,199 --> 01:20:00,960
on in the world at the moment
in this sphere to be a well,

1005
01:20:01,239 --> 01:20:06,079
I tell it will be interesting if
this near death experience happened with somebody who

1006
01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:10,720
was Buddhist, would it be Buddha
that heals them? And if they were

1007
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,159
Jewish, would it be Moses that
healed them? And if they were Islamic

1008
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:16,840
would it would it be Mohammad that
healed them? That's that's an imading.

1009
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:23,279
Yeah, it's very I think they're
finding that that there is a pattern where

1010
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,800
where when people are atheists or when
they come from the Christian background, if

1011
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:32,720
they've got any openness to jo c
he's there. But when people are you

1012
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,520
know, when they're as you said, Buddhist or Muslim or something like that,

1013
01:20:38,039 --> 01:20:41,720
yes, it tends to be more
in their culture, the experiences they

1014
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,560
have. You know, he doesn't
encroach on them if they don't have that

1015
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,159
belief in that openness to him.
Now, I read a very interesting Seth

1016
01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:56,399
book of Seth the Spirit Channel by
Jane Roberts in the sixties and the seventies.

1017
01:20:56,439 --> 01:21:00,760
She'd go out in nineteen eighty four. But his stuff is very almost

1018
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:04,640
bordering on the physics kind of stuff. He would talk about coordination points and

1019
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,800
faster than like particles and all sorts
of things like that. But one of

1020
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:15,079
the things he said was that he
acted did as a crossover guide. I

1021
01:21:15,119 --> 01:21:17,159
suppose the word would be was that
when some crossed over to the other side,

1022
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,439
he would act like the intermediately that
they'd introduced them to the new realm

1023
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:26,279
and help them through their change.
And he said that you'd have to work

1024
01:21:26,319 --> 01:21:30,520
through the beliefs of the person for
them to understand it. So he said

1025
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,479
he took on the guise of Jesus
and his fence spirit guide took on the

1026
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:39,760
guys of Mohammad, because he said, the guy that was passing away this

1027
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,239
is in the Middle Ages. Apparently
they put hot coals in his mouth.

1028
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,680
The Turks put hot coals in this
guy's mouth, and he died, which

1029
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,359
is a very nasty way to go. But when he came over the other

1030
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:56,600
side, apparently he secretly harbored the
uh. He believed in Mohammed, but

1031
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,239
somehow thought that Jesus was the more
powerful prophet. He never told anyone that,

1032
01:22:00,399 --> 01:22:03,920
but this was his secret belief to
himself. So what seth and this

1033
01:22:04,319 --> 01:22:09,720
friend did? These spirit guys decided
to hatch a little plot to try and

1034
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,439
play out his belief in front of
him, and they actually got on clouds

1035
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,920
a bit like monkey, you know. One was coming in on one cloud

1036
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,960
and the other one was coming in
another cloud. And it sounds completely fantasy

1037
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:24,119
sort of stuff, but they did
it to play out this role for him,

1038
01:22:24,279 --> 01:22:27,720
and he said they'd both be firing
lightning bolts. So Jesus was firing

1039
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,199
lightning bolts at Mohammed and lightning bolts
were coming out of Muhammed's hands and firing

1040
01:22:31,239 --> 01:22:35,560
them at Jesus. Eventually the clouds
came together and they both stepped onto one

1041
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,800
cloud and then came down the bloat
and said that we're both the same people,

1042
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,800
or we're all love here or something
like that. And the guy I

1043
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,800
kind of accepted it, but they
had to work through his belief system.

1044
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,720
So he was met by Jesus and
Mohammad, but in fact they weren't either

1045
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,880
of them in reality. And that's
what would bring me to the question when

1046
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,000
you said about Jesus meeting the guy
on the other side of the rock clabe,

1047
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,840
because I was wondering that if there's
so many people dying around the world,

1048
01:23:03,199 --> 01:23:08,800
you know, neither people die in
every second. I presume that Jesus

1049
01:23:09,119 --> 01:23:13,760
maybe can appear at every point to
these people all at the same time,

1050
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:18,760
or is he multi personable. We
talked about mighty multi dimensional. Can he

1051
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:25,039
split his personality or solar to pierce
all these people or is it other spirit

1052
01:23:25,119 --> 01:23:29,000
guys mascuerade in as Jesus for the
help of it. Well, in other

1053
01:23:29,039 --> 01:23:31,920
perhaps they're both really in the sense
that it is a team of them that

1054
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:35,960
are working, and they're all they're
all working and harmed a bit like you

1055
01:23:36,079 --> 01:23:40,960
know, Mohammad and Jesus shooting the
bolts and saying, we're all the same,

1056
01:23:41,039 --> 01:23:44,960
We're all the one love. But
when you read the Keys of Emoch,

1057
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,760
you realize that descended masters, like
yes, sure, in this ended

1058
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:55,239
state can manifest like it's it's a
bit like bilocation, but they can manifest

1059
01:23:55,319 --> 01:24:00,880
in a million bodies simultaneously. They
can be conscious in a million places simultaneously.

1060
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,800
There's no limit to their sort of
manifestations. So this enables, yeah,

1061
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:12,760
sure to be there for everyone individually
simultaneously. And I mean, I

1062
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:15,319
I can begin, I can explain
it, I can begin to The analogy

1063
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:19,039
I use is rather like a television
set. You've got the same broadcast,

1064
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:25,800
but it's going through a million television
sets. You know how work broadcast signals,

1065
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,720
So it's something a bit like that, except that it personalizes so that

1066
01:24:30,319 --> 01:24:33,239
it's the same program, but it's
a different show for each person. It's

1067
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:39,279
something you know, it's it's the
way that it's it's like a superior technology

1068
01:24:39,359 --> 01:24:43,520
to anything we've got on the beab
as it were. Yeah, yeah,

1069
01:24:44,359 --> 01:24:47,239
Well, each person on their Internet
as their own Internet signature. They're all

1070
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:54,239
their own personal idea. They could
identify person's computer being this location, so

1071
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:58,680
it'll be watching YouTube, but they
can see individually who's watching YouTube, and

1072
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,720
they'll tailor those adverts that are playing
on YouTube to suit the tastes of the

1073
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,640
person. And you know that they
target people with adverts about dog food or

1074
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,880
something. They get dog and there's
a spirit world. They're doing the same

1075
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:15,399
sort of thing. The people we're
sing with their Yeah, it's very much.

1076
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,199
They're just advance of us with the
technology, and we're seeing how advanced

1077
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:24,720
AI can be. Well, you
know, add that on a million times

1078
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,720
and you see where these guys were. They've been, they've been working for

1079
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,840
millions of years. You know that
they're very advanced civilizations. But it's interesting

1080
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,960
what you were saying, like Seth
saying that he manifested to Jesus I'm sure

1081
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,760
that happens quite a lot, because
you know, a lot of these manifestations

1082
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,840
of Jesus that they don't quite seem
quite like him, but they you know,

1083
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,680
I can I just really feel intuituitively, yes, that that there are

1084
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:56,960
other spirits that manifest as as you
sure, m hm hmmmm. They're poor,

1085
01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:00,359
poor irritations, but they're still doing
a good job. Att yeah,

1086
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,199
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
So with your physics, so have you

1087
01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:13,199
actually spoken to other physicists and major
discussions with them and how is it ended

1088
01:26:13,239 --> 01:26:17,039
badly for you? Well, it's
kind of like my work has been reviewed

1089
01:26:17,119 --> 01:26:24,159
over the years, and whenever I've
had criticism, I've always welcomed it because

1090
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:30,680
it's enabled me to tighten the work
up because the critics show that the faults

1091
01:26:30,039 --> 01:26:34,079
you see with me, I don't
need answers, I need questions because the

1092
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:40,279
answers are given to me from spirit
world, and they just they need me

1093
01:26:40,399 --> 01:26:44,640
to ask the most appropriate question and
the answer just pops into my head.

1094
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:48,479
So I'm very grateful for people who
who you know, the professors and physicists

1095
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:53,760
to challenge my work because they've found
a fault, and then I've only got

1096
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,159
to sort of go away with that
fault and suddenly the answer comes through and

1097
01:26:58,279 --> 01:27:02,199
I go back and correct it.
She's so it's quite an extraordinary process.

1098
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:08,319
But yes, it's the last person
to read it was a professor of nuclear

1099
01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:13,199
physics at Oxford University and she found
one fault in my work and I corrected

1100
01:27:13,279 --> 01:27:17,560
it. So, I mean,
I've just sent the new book. I

1101
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:23,479
think is you know, my trouble
is that I'm so into the psychic,

1102
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,920
in the spiritual. My real interest
is I'm not the physics, but is

1103
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,359
the supernatural stuff. I mean,
give me Helen Duncan or you know,

1104
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,399
active plasm and all that sort of
stuff. It's meat and potatoes to me.

1105
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:39,680
But I have to do the physics. So I'm really focusing at the

1106
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,079
moment. I'm getting the physics really
right and in a book, just the

1107
01:27:43,199 --> 01:27:48,439
physics and linking it to Einstein so
that that work is available mainstream and then

1108
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,680
I can bring in the super energy
on the back of it once it's established.

1109
01:27:53,279 --> 01:27:58,159
And so I've got a professor of
theoretical physics in India at the moment,

1110
01:27:58,359 --> 01:28:01,800
called Professor Harry Dust and I've sent
him the first essay today. And

1111
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,279
I've just had to reply from him. He's going to be reviewing it,

1112
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:09,600
reading it, so it's beginning.
You know, there are a number of

1113
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:14,840
physicists reading my essays and they're loving
it. So I think I'm on the

1114
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,000
right track with what I'm doing at
the moment. You know, if I

1115
01:28:17,359 --> 01:28:21,760
get knocked off and if I get
people able to rubbish me, it's my

1116
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,840
fault. It's because I haven't done
my work properly. I you know,

1117
01:28:26,319 --> 01:28:29,800
I need a wrap across the knuckles. So whenever people rubbish me, I'm

1118
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:35,479
always very grateful, even if it's
Professor Stephens, Professor Dawkins. I know

1119
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:42,600
I'd love to have a discussion with
him with great fun. Yeah you might,

1120
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:46,319
I've obviously, Yeah, that'd be
great. I'd love to see that.

1121
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,680
Wow, I think I'll pay for
front rat seats on that one.

1122
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,359
Now, we spoke about Helen Duncan
and she was a threat to the establishment.

1123
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,520
Now, in the book that I've
just written, which is not out

1124
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,359
yet, we'll be out in no
it's called True Details of the Paranormal,

1125
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,279
I discussed Helen Duncan. Now in
my original draft, I've had to kind

1126
01:29:06,279 --> 01:29:11,079
of tone it down a bit,
but I wrote about how I considered that

1127
01:29:11,319 --> 01:29:15,640
she was a threat to World War
II society in that sort of warmongering sort

1128
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:20,520
of state that they were. But
I wonder if the whole life after their

1129
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:26,920
thing is a threat today to the
materialist society that we're in, because they

1130
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,319
seem to be aware of it,
but they don't really want to welcome it's

1131
01:29:31,359 --> 01:29:35,920
center stay, so to speak,
because I think it's a threat to the

1132
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:42,399
way things are, you know.
I mean, if you could bring back,

1133
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:48,720
for instance, Dr David Kelly,
the weapons inspector, committed suicide in

1134
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:58,000
quotes when they were doing the inquiry
into various things about the web mass destruction,

1135
01:29:58,319 --> 01:30:00,600
and he was the guy that said, no, there's no weapons of

1136
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:03,000
mass destruction. You got it all
wrong. And he suddenly disappeared or committed

1137
01:30:03,039 --> 01:30:06,479
suicide out on one of his country
walks or something. Now, I imagine

1138
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:11,840
if they could bring him back through
a medium like Helen Duncan and he said,

1139
01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:15,920
actually I was bummed off by a
HI five or to something of that

1140
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:19,600
order. They wouldn't really want that
broadcast about, I don't think, and

1141
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:25,840
so I long expect that there's kind
of they don't want this kind of thing

1142
01:30:26,119 --> 01:30:30,039
known about in the in the mainstream. They don't want the average Joel on

1143
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,760
the street to know that there's life
after death. That rather, you think

1144
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:40,079
it's a lot of or blownely because
it keeps them in their castles. As

1145
01:30:40,119 --> 01:30:43,319
such, what do you think to
that there's a lot in that. You

1146
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:47,239
know, the people that are controlled
in the world really don't want human beings

1147
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:53,199
free and in touch with spirit and
out of control. They want us to

1148
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:57,680
be zombies, They want us to
be half dead and just you know,

1149
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:03,800
consumer slaves. So you know,
there is a big vested interest in keeping

1150
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:10,920
the raps on spiritual psychic phenomena.
So and of course they they're very happy

1151
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:16,840
with religions because religions just are not
really in touch with the true spiritual reality.

1152
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:21,960
They're just they're just power trips,
you know. But yeah, I

1153
01:31:23,039 --> 01:31:27,479
think the New Age movement is a
real threat to the establishment. If they

1154
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,760
could get rid of it, they
would. But there's no central focus.

1155
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,640
Everyone's doing their own thing. And
one thing that's really empowered us all is

1156
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:38,920
the Internet. I mean, it's
the fact that we can do our own

1157
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,039
television shows and people have got the
choice. They can go on YouTube,

1158
01:31:43,079 --> 01:31:45,920
but they can I they can either
listen to this show, or they can

1159
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,720
turn on the beeB and see more
of the old rubbish their churn. So

1160
01:31:50,319 --> 01:31:54,760
it's up to people what they what
they want to watch. But there's there

1161
01:31:54,880 --> 01:32:00,319
is the choice, there is the
opportunity. And in my book you know

1162
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:03,560
this this book here, what I
explain is that this planet is the womb

1163
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:08,439
of angels. This to Academy of
Angels, that actually we're all baby angels,

1164
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:12,199
where angels and the making. Some
of us are pretty advanced angels and

1165
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:15,920
they're here to sort of go through
you know, an upgrade as it were,

1166
01:32:16,319 --> 01:32:21,159
through a human experience. But basically
the whole of human life is very

1167
01:32:21,279 --> 01:32:27,560
much orientated around angelic development. And
the point is that, you know,

1168
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,479
you've got to have duality. You've
got to have the baddies, you've got

1169
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:34,319
to have the test. You know, you've got to put the dross through

1170
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:39,720
fire to bring out the gold.
So we have to love our enemies.

1171
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,279
We have to really appreciate the people
who are making life difficult for us on

1172
01:32:44,359 --> 01:32:49,399
the spiritual path because they're really giving
us a chance to work the ants antagonistic

1173
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:53,920
muscle, if you see what I
mean. We we strengthen our spiritual muscles

1174
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:58,079
and That's why we have to love
them, you know when it's like when

1175
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:00,640
people criticize me and my physics,
I have to love them because they're serving

1176
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,199
me. They're helping show where I
need to patch it up. Well,

1177
01:33:04,199 --> 01:33:10,600
it's the same with you know when
and when when you know, the harder

1178
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:15,199
they make it, the the the
higher we we we we make it.

1179
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:23,239
There's an electrical component called a capacitor. And this analogy came from Ashtar.

1180
01:33:23,319 --> 01:33:26,800
Actually came through me, but it
was written in an ashtarme channeling. I

1181
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:31,239
do a bit of channeling myself.
And what it is is this planet is

1182
01:33:31,359 --> 01:33:38,159
like a capacitor, and a capacitor
works on a positive plate and a negative

1183
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:42,640
plate with a non conductor in between. So what we have on this planet

1184
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:45,920
is we've got the good and we've
got the evil and then plut up against

1185
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,800
each other. So you put these
two plates close together, but they don't

1186
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:55,199
quite touch, okay, And then
what you do is you increase the resistance

1187
01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:00,520
of the of the negative of the
of the negative side. So you increase

1188
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,640
that resistance, and what it means
is the voltage goes up because the positive

1189
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:09,640
has to overcome the resistance. So
you increase the resistance a bit more.

1190
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:12,640
So the voltage has to go up
a bit more, and then you increase

1191
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,159
it a bit more. And that's
what's happening. They're working it. So

1192
01:34:15,279 --> 01:34:21,800
they're increasing the baddies, they're increasing
the evil, they're increasing the shadow to

1193
01:34:23,079 --> 01:34:29,960
increase the spiritual voltage of humanity,
so that when eventually the conclusion point comes,

1194
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:36,199
it's going to be the biggest spar
the biggest spiritual discharge this universe has

1195
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:41,319
ever known. So bring them on, bring on the baddies, and the

1196
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,079
other thing, the other thing.
And I spoke of the analogy of the

1197
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:49,159
of the theater, where were the
producer and the same consciousness is in their

1198
01:34:49,239 --> 01:34:54,760
hand. Well you imagine if all
you've got in the theater was Mary Poppins,

1199
01:34:55,439 --> 01:35:00,720
it would be so boring. I
mean, I'm not but sound amusing,

1200
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,279
but not all the time. I
mean, we need a view off

1201
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:06,960
the spooky stuff, you know,
the dark stuff, you know, the

1202
01:35:08,039 --> 01:35:11,479
scary stuff. We and it clashed
you up to turs to eat the bugs

1203
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,880
and live in the fifteen minute city. That so the whole thing is that,

1204
01:35:15,119 --> 01:35:18,920
you know, it's it's all part
of the drama. It's all part

1205
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,279
of the show. So long as
we remember this is not a real world.

1206
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:27,359
It's it's a construct. It's like
a holographic world. It's a matrix.

1207
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,000
And the thing is, it's more
like a dream than a reality.

1208
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:34,880
We're in a dream state and we
can't you can't do any harm to yourself

1209
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,800
because you're not even here. You
know. You go into a theater and

1210
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,840
it's so scary, but you're not
gonna it's not going to kill you.

1211
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:45,199
This great monster's coming out of this
virtual reality. It's about to eat you,

1212
01:35:45,279 --> 01:35:48,640
but it doesn't actually eat you.
And so it's the same. You

1213
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,640
can do anything you like to the
body. You can stick out red art

1214
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:57,119
calls in people's mouths and kill them
that when it's just you're doing dreadful things

1215
01:35:57,159 --> 01:35:59,960
to the car, you know,
I mean, you're smashing in the windscreen

1216
01:36:00,119 --> 01:36:03,279
and you're you're ripping the tires.
But you know, as long as the

1217
01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:08,039
driver gets out of it, okay. And that's what happens in every instant,

1218
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:13,039
The driver of this biological vehicle gets
out okay. And so we have

1219
01:36:13,239 --> 01:36:18,000
nothing to worry about in this physical
plane. For those people that are out,

1220
01:36:19,159 --> 01:36:23,239
the people that want to do nasties
to some things, I mean,

1221
01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:29,960
do they end up being facing the
consequence of their actions On the other side,

1222
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:35,800
I was on Lindus fan. I'd
had this near death, this outer

1223
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:41,680
body, whatever it is. Someone
had taken me on past life regression,

1224
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:45,800
that's right. And I saw myself
as a monk on Linda's fan and I

1225
01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:48,239
had this little twig with this little
cross, you see, like this,

1226
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,119
And I was holding up this twig
and this Viking came running up behind me

1227
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,640
and split me. It did the
worst possible thing imaginable for no reason.

1228
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,600
I was a good holy He's sending
little monk not mine in my own business

1229
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:05,720
collecting herbs, and he literally split
me in half, just for the sake

1230
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:11,960
of the bloodlust. All right.
Now I'm traveling with my dearly beloved brother

1231
01:37:12,119 --> 01:37:17,640
Stephen, and we're on a plane
and we're landing in Stockholm, all right,

1232
01:37:18,199 --> 01:37:21,039
And Stephen says, you know,
David, I feel I'm coming home.

1233
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,199
And then he said, you know, David, I wrote this song

1234
01:37:25,239 --> 01:37:29,399
because Stephen and I write songs,
and we write songs about past lives.

1235
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:31,960
He says, do you know I
wrote that song about the yellow sands,

1236
01:37:32,079 --> 01:37:35,640
you know, And I can sign
people souls to the yellow sands, and

1237
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:40,439
I said, ship, my god, the yellow sands of lindas Vahan.

1238
01:37:41,279 --> 01:37:44,720
And then I realized and Steve,
we were going through this thing. We

1239
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,359
realized he was the first Viking to
jump off the first ship because Linda's Varn

1240
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:55,920
was the first place invaded by the
Vikings as a pyramid. And I went

1241
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:59,319
to Linda's Farn and I looked for
the scene I've seen in my past live

1242
01:37:59,399 --> 01:38:02,439
regression of the dunes with the hills
in the distance. When I got to

1243
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,239
the spot where which would just like
what I saw in my vision, you

1244
01:38:06,319 --> 01:38:10,600
see, with the hills of Northumberland
in the distance, I looked to my

1245
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:14,119
right and there was a pyramid.
I was right in the right place for

1246
01:38:14,279 --> 01:38:17,359
my brother to jump off that ship
and kill me. So it's my dearly

1247
01:38:17,399 --> 01:38:21,319
beloved brother. So we laugh about
it. You know, whoever hurts you,

1248
01:38:21,399 --> 01:38:27,079
wherever does dreadful things to you,
it's a sacred contract. It's more

1249
01:38:27,119 --> 01:38:30,319
than your brother or your mother in
another life. You know, you agreed

1250
01:38:30,399 --> 01:38:35,640
to do these things because you need
that experience of suffering to learn the lessons

1251
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:40,079
of unconditional love. That's what we're
here for us to learn to love.

1252
01:38:41,399 --> 01:38:49,239
Right. It's interesting you mentioned Linda's
varn Jogs might mind. About about years

1253
01:38:49,279 --> 01:38:54,600
ago, maybe three years ago,
I was up at a place called truth

1254
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,520
Seekers Northeast, which is a little
meeting group a bit like Dorset Earth Mysteries,

1255
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,560
but they were in New upon Time, and I had done a talk

1256
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,119
there that day, but they'd set
the evening up. They said, please

1257
01:39:05,319 --> 01:39:10,319
stay with us because we've got a
wonderful medium coming here in the evening called

1258
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:14,039
Jackie Right. And I never met
her before, but she was a lovely

1259
01:39:14,119 --> 01:39:16,640
lady, very very talented medium.
It turned out she was the president of

1260
01:39:16,720 --> 01:39:20,960
the Spiritualist National Union. So when
you're the president of the Spiritualist National Union,

1261
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:24,760
by golly, you've got to be
a really good medium. And she

1262
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:30,039
really really was. And so I
saw her do a demonstration of clairevoyance that

1263
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,239
evening, and one of the people
that she was speaking to me happened to

1264
01:39:33,239 --> 01:39:35,359
be a lady sitting next to me. I never knew this lady, She's

1265
01:39:35,399 --> 01:39:39,359
just another member of the audience.
But she said to this lady, she

1266
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,800
said, I've got a gentleman here
who's very smartly dressed. And she goes,

1267
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,560
yeah, and she goes and I'm
being shown like a big steering will,

1268
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,039
so I feel that he either drove
a lourie or a bus or a

1269
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:53,000
coach. She goes, ah,
that'd be my husband. He was a

1270
01:39:53,079 --> 01:39:57,920
coach driver. She goes, ah, But he's shown me doing his journeys.

1271
01:39:58,039 --> 01:40:00,960
And then she suddenly paused. She
goes, did he break down on

1272
01:40:01,039 --> 01:40:06,119
the isle of Lindis Farhan, And
she said yes he did. And apparently

1273
01:40:06,199 --> 01:40:10,600
she said, yeah, he showed
me that his coach broke down on the

1274
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,319
other side of the bridge on the
Isle of Lindis Farn and he had to

1275
01:40:14,359 --> 01:40:16,560
wait four or five hours for someone
to come and repair the coach and get

1276
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,000
all the people back off again.
So he said, he certainly got to

1277
01:40:19,119 --> 01:40:24,039
know he's members of his coach party
as such, you know. But I

1278
01:40:24,079 --> 01:40:27,119
thought it was an amazing piece of
evidence for this lady to pick up that

1279
01:40:27,239 --> 01:40:30,159
he had broken down on Linda's varnable. She can get that through. But

1280
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:33,680
yeah, it was fascinating, and
then she was very very accurate. So

1281
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,479
as soon as he said Linda's Varan, I thought, oh, yeah,

1282
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:41,239
that's a psychic story connected with that
one. Now you talked about your own

1283
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,600
channeling, David, have you had
like have you been to any kind of

1284
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:49,279
salces or demonstrations of mediumship yourself.
Well, I was married to a channel.

1285
01:40:49,399 --> 01:40:55,319
I mean, I have a very
strong relationship with Sheiba, and I

1286
01:40:55,399 --> 01:40:58,560
bring Sheba through. I've got a
you know, I can call Sheba up

1287
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:02,199
anytime I like, he's in my
and so I've got this very strong link

1288
01:41:02,279 --> 01:41:08,920
because I married this, this doctor, and we had this It's like the

1289
01:41:09,039 --> 01:41:14,560
calling was that she wanted to look
into the West, and so she you

1290
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,680
know, she had the mediumistic powers, but she she wasn't really aware of

1291
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:24,640
it, but she she she was
a medical doctor and very business orientated.

1292
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:29,640
But one of the things I do
is I help people bring on their mediumship

1293
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:34,840
abilities. You know. I helped
people channel and I got these amazing sacred

1294
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:41,159
supies from Thailand which which I sew, and people put the surpies on and

1295
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,039
it helps them to channel, it
helps them to connect you. So they're

1296
01:41:45,159 --> 01:41:49,239
like tools to help people. So
anyway, I'm I worked with my wife

1297
01:41:49,279 --> 01:41:55,279
and she started channeling and then you
know, she's very happy about channeling our

1298
01:41:55,359 --> 01:41:58,920
higher self. And it was so
lovely because she was quite she was quite

1299
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:02,600
a tough cookie, but her higher
self was sweetest honey, you know so

1300
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,279
I loved it. I loved it
when I met her high herself. But

1301
01:42:06,399 --> 01:42:10,880
anyway, she said, I don't
mind channeling so as song as I don't

1302
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,520
get any of those that they call
the mongs in Thailand, any of them

1303
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,399
mongs coming through. But anyway,
she went to Thailand for part of her

1304
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:25,199
training out there, and her higher
self got into a conversation with the higher

1305
01:42:25,279 --> 01:42:30,399
self of the the medium she was
working with, and she didn't realize and

1306
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,319
they were cutting a deal. And
the next time when she came back to

1307
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,159
Japan where we were, we were
staying and I said, you want to

1308
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:42,960
do some channeling, And then suddenly
this very loud, powerful male voice came

1309
01:42:43,039 --> 01:42:48,319
through her saying, where am I? Where are the old time? One

1310
01:42:48,359 --> 01:42:53,319
of my gifts is that gifted discernment
of spirits. So I knew it was

1311
01:42:53,359 --> 01:42:58,640
immediately Sheva. I said. I
said, Lord Sheva, look, we

1312
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:01,520
weren't expecting you. You're in Japan, we're in a hotel. I'm sorry,

1313
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,680
we haven't got an altar, but
you know we will. Saw that

1314
01:43:05,039 --> 01:43:08,920
ah, he said, ah,
Now that once he knew where he was,

1315
01:43:09,039 --> 01:43:12,600
once he knew what was going on. But basically let's set this thing

1316
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,399
up. And he got sucked in, you know. I mean he'd bit

1317
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,319
brought in because this is you know, but to actually find him in that

1318
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:24,600
state where it was a bit disorientated
on arrival here. So but anyway,

1319
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:29,800
for about two or three years,
and we traveled the west and because he

1320
01:43:30,199 --> 01:43:32,439
wanted to look into the West,
and we did all these channeling sessions and

1321
01:43:33,079 --> 01:43:38,279
yeah, it was really really amazing
because she used to bring through Jesus and

1322
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:43,119
Kwan Yin and the Mother Mary and
I always remember a channeling she did one

1323
01:43:43,199 --> 01:43:45,720
Easter in New Zealand, and yes, came through. We invited him in

1324
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,039
because it was his day. And
this is what he said. He said,

1325
01:43:50,079 --> 01:43:55,439
you can't be both right and have
love. He said, if you

1326
01:43:55,560 --> 01:43:59,840
are right, that makes someone else
wrong. And as soon as you get

1327
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:03,399
that polarity of right and wrong,
that leads to conflict and leads to war.

1328
01:44:04,119 --> 01:44:08,279
He said, you know, we
have to let go of our judgment

1329
01:44:08,399 --> 01:44:13,680
of right and wrong, just simply
moving to love, unconditional love, and

1330
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,399
that is that is the only way
forward. And so in a way,

1331
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,000
that's the answer to your question,
you know about that the good people and

1332
01:44:20,039 --> 01:44:24,680
the bad people who were asking before, and there are no is, there

1333
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:27,000
are no good is and bad is. We're all one, We're all the

1334
01:44:27,039 --> 01:44:30,039
one being in the medy bodies.
We're just like children in the sandpit.

1335
01:44:30,359 --> 01:44:33,319
We have our squabbles, but we're
all going through a learning curve and behind

1336
01:44:33,359 --> 01:44:36,880
it all we need to be witnessing
and aware that the only thing that matters

1337
01:44:38,319 --> 01:44:44,079
is that we love one another unconditional. Hm. What would do you say

1338
01:44:44,079 --> 01:44:49,239
about how the alien et kind of
visitations we get in kind of context with

1339
01:44:49,399 --> 01:44:55,760
the rule of that presumably they're playing
a role on this physical stage as well

1340
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,600
with us. What's your opinion of
all that. Well, when I was,

1341
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,600
you know, it's in Thailand,
and this chap that he lives in

1342
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:08,800
Thailand, he was the sort of
you know, holding the space out there

1343
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:14,840
an Englishman in Thailand, and when
Sheva was in, he asked shever,

1344
01:45:14,920 --> 01:45:17,199
He said, are you an ET? And she said Sheva said, yes,

1345
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:23,560
of course I am. You see, angels by definition are et the

1346
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:28,359
extraterrestrial. And so the thing is
that you know, we call them angels

1347
01:45:28,399 --> 01:45:32,279
in the past, but actually they're
ets, and it's that ET one oh

1348
01:45:32,359 --> 01:45:35,600
one. I mean, if you
want to see an ET, look in

1349
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:42,560
the mirror because we're it. We're
basically extraterrestrials here in the human bodies going

1350
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:46,479
through some sort of schooling that we
need. That's all part of extraterrestrial development.

1351
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,239
So we are all ets. I
mean, Andrew, you look like

1352
01:45:50,359 --> 01:45:56,840
in Et and all. You've got
your mates in the background. I've always

1353
01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:59,800
felt that, actually, my soul
isn't from this planet. Yeah, I

1354
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:01,760
think a lot of us find but
I know I'm not from this planet.

1355
01:46:02,079 --> 01:46:04,960
I mean, most of us come
from other places. But yes, we're

1356
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:10,960
you know, I think the extrapresstoral
thing is, it's crazy to imagine that

1357
01:46:11,079 --> 01:46:17,279
in this vast universe we're the only
intelligent speeches ideas terribly arrogant. Yeah,

1358
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:21,520
yeah, I mean, there's there's
a thing I saw on some program the

1359
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:29,560
other night where they've been they've targeted
and found all these exo planets over the

1360
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:33,039
last sort of ten twenty years of
whether they've been sending all these various telescopes

1361
01:46:33,079 --> 01:46:39,239
and probes out trying to scan these
guys. And you know, it's interesting

1362
01:46:39,279 --> 01:46:43,720
because they've talked about hout a mythical
nine planet, ninth planet. Can they

1363
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:47,680
detect maybe the gravitational effects of a
ninth planet out on the edge of our

1364
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:51,199
solar system, but they're not sure
if it's there. But the irony is

1365
01:46:51,199 --> 01:46:56,720
that they can see so many of
these exo planets out in the fastest space,

1366
01:46:56,920 --> 01:47:01,359
you know, like for a thousand
or something then present. But yeah,

1367
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:05,359
it's just it's an interesting thing.
So I mean, but the Grays,

1368
01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:09,800
I mean, that's the common one
that people describe as aliens come in

1369
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:14,279
here who are abducting people. Any
thoughts on the Grays or anything, Well,

1370
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:21,039
it's very interesting. You know.
We went through this whole genealogy thing

1371
01:47:21,239 --> 01:47:30,039
and my father, well he was
adopted, and it's like the DNA tests

1372
01:47:30,159 --> 01:47:35,800
show that because the Jewish, his
only link to the Jewish family that we

1373
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:42,199
come from, the Ash family is
through a woman through the mitochondrial DNA,

1374
01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,399
which means that the woman he thought
was his aunt was his mother, and

1375
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:50,039
the woman he thought was his father
was actually his uncle. But actually the

1376
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:58,840
father is unknown. And I'm absolutely
convinced that my father's mother was abducted or

1377
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,760
had some sort of extra trest or
visitation. So I'm convinced I'm the spawn

1378
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:09,079
of et I think, you know, I reckon, I'm half extraterrestrial myself

1379
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,760
or quarter or whatever it is.
So what blood group? Are you?

1380
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,680
A Recis negative by any time?
I don't, I've never I've never managed

1381
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,720
to get my blood I'd love to
know what my blood group is. I

1382
01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,720
ought to get to get a blood
test. But what is it about recist

1383
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:29,000
negative? Apparently recist negative this is
mainstream. It's it's an anomaly that don't

1384
01:48:29,039 --> 01:48:30,880
know what it is or where it's
coming from. And apparently a lot of

1385
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:36,119
alien abductees and contact tees or people
who believe that they are aliens actually have

1386
01:48:36,359 --> 01:48:41,439
Recis negative blood group types. So
I must get a blood I must do

1387
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,520
the blood test and find out what
I am. But yeah, I think

1388
01:48:45,159 --> 01:48:47,439
I've been reading a book by Paul
Wallace. I think have you read an

1389
01:48:48,039 --> 01:48:53,000
Escape from Eden series? I've heard
of it. I've heard it's really worth

1390
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:57,760
reading. Yeah, he was an
Anglicant expert on Bible translation, and he's

1391
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:02,760
convinced that the that the gods of
the Old Testament were extraterrestrial. And I've

1392
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:06,760
always I've always believed that the god
of Abraham, Istik and Jacob was an

1393
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:13,680
extraterrestrial visitation. So the thing is
that I really think they're closer to us

1394
01:49:13,800 --> 01:49:17,079
than than we imagine. And what
Paul Wallace said is that there are millions

1395
01:49:17,159 --> 01:49:24,520
of people abductions, there's a lot
of sexual and you know, it's sort

1396
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:30,359
of it's almost like cross pollination between
extra civilizations and the human civilization. There's

1397
01:49:30,359 --> 01:49:34,199
a lot of experimentation, a lot
of a lot of work going on.

1398
01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:38,720
You know, I often wonder where
I get all this knowledge from of the

1399
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:41,560
universe. You know, how do
I know it? Well, maybe I've

1400
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:45,479
got an e te you know,
that sort of genes have been planted into

1401
01:49:45,520 --> 01:49:49,560
me so that I can bring it
all through from the extraterstrial masters. You

1402
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:53,600
know. It's like a bit like
a genetic implant. But it happened at

1403
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:58,000
conception, you know. Yeah.
I mean it's it's interesting talking about the

1404
01:49:58,039 --> 01:50:00,960
Bible and the Christian side of things, you know, because there were so

1405
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:04,560
Christians out there that will kind of
laugh at ghosts and UFOs and things,

1406
01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:09,079
and and yet in their own Bible, you've got the nepheline, You've got

1407
01:50:09,159 --> 01:50:14,119
the giants an anarchy, and you've
got the talking serpent, you know,

1408
01:50:14,199 --> 01:50:17,159
and they're the ones laughing at us. I know, that's right. That's

1409
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:21,920
so so true. Yeah. The
one thing I love about's interesting. I

1410
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:28,239
remember that the spiritualist people you're you're
very open minded, you know. I

1411
01:50:28,319 --> 01:50:30,279
mean the people that I can talk
to and have a lot of fun with.

1412
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:34,079
You know, if I get in
with these Christians and religious people and

1413
01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:38,680
all that model, I find the
religious and the physicists and that they're all

1414
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:43,119
locked in their paradigm. I don't
have discussion with them. They're just closed,

1415
01:50:43,199 --> 01:50:45,720
you know. Yeah. I mean
I'm always the sort of person.

1416
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,920
I'm a bit I make a rod
for my own back. But if they're

1417
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:51,960
ar Jehovah Swittness is knocking at the
door, I am the guy that tries

1418
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:56,560
to talk to them. I always
invite them. Men. I love the

1419
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:00,279
Jared W's really good. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I like changing them

1420
01:51:00,279 --> 01:51:03,319
on lots of things. He said. I like a bit of a banter

1421
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:06,239
with them, you know. Well, I always remember a funny a funny

1422
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:13,600
time. I don't think they were
quite Jovia's Witnesses. They were King's Church

1423
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:18,359
or some Christian thing, and they
were doing some sort of stall presentation in

1424
01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:23,039
a high street beat I think in
Bedfordshire when I lived there for about a

1425
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:26,279
year, and so I was popping
down to the local library or something,

1426
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:29,279
and I came across his store with
his Christians on. I thought, oh,

1427
01:51:29,359 --> 01:51:30,960
I'll have a chat with these folks. So I was talking away,

1428
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:34,680
and I was talking about the flood
and Noah and you know, could you

1429
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:39,439
really get all these animals on the
arc and that kind of question. But

1430
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:43,840
anyway, this this this young Indian
chap kind of joins us in the conversation,

1431
01:51:44,039 --> 01:51:45,359
just walks up and sees what's happening. So he starts talking to me,

1432
01:51:45,399 --> 01:51:48,840
and he starts talking to the Christian
and We're having a sort of three

1433
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:56,520
way conversation. And I'm disagreeing with
a Christian strong on certain points. And

1434
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,479
this Indian bloke says, and he's
trying to use the Eric's depressions. And

1435
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:02,439
it made me laugh. He said, in his Indian accent, with due

1436
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,600
respect to your nation, with their
accents, he said, he says,

1437
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:12,199
the trouble is, uh, it's
all tit for Tit just cracked me up.

1438
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:15,520
I thought, oh my god.
And the Christian guy cracked up as

1439
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,479
well, and I thought, no, I think you mean tit for tap.

1440
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:25,960
I said, oh got. But
unfortunately the Christians, they're the folk

1441
01:52:26,079 --> 01:52:30,399
that come around. And if you're
having a spiritualist meeting somewhere or something of

1442
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:34,520
like a psychic fair or tuned in
events, whatever, you're always come out

1443
01:52:35,039 --> 01:52:40,520
sometimes and you'll find these leaflets from
the Christians put on your car or something,

1444
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,760
and the work and shield you know
you are sinners or something of that

1445
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:46,359
nature, you know. And yeah, I would never go to their church

1446
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:50,000
and give them a hassle or put
anything on the gup. But they're always

1447
01:52:50,079 --> 01:52:55,039
quite they still quite righteous in doing
so. That we are the Satanists or

1448
01:52:55,079 --> 01:52:59,439
the devil or whatever it may be, but we just explorers. I consider

1449
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:05,520
we're just of nature. It goes
back to what Yeshua said in Nelson,

1450
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:09,960
New Zealand and Easter. You know, you cannot both be right and have

1451
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:14,560
love. The problem with these people, like whether they're physicists or whether they're

1452
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,640
Christians, they think they're right.
So they think they've got to teach us

1453
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:20,279
because we're wrong, and they've got
to educate us, and they've got to

1454
01:53:20,359 --> 01:53:25,600
save our souls. They've got an
agenda to you know, to bring us

1455
01:53:25,680 --> 01:53:29,960
into their wavelength of thinking. And
it's just like, give us a break,

1456
01:53:30,079 --> 01:53:31,439
you know. I don't want to
be saved by you guys. I'm

1457
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,600
quite happy with myself as I am. I mean, we three are having

1458
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:38,880
this dialogue and we're not trying to
save each other. I'm not trying to

1459
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,960
convince you the boy. You know, I don't give Mary fark. Weren't

1460
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:44,720
you believe in it or not?
I mean, I'm just having fun.

1461
01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:48,399
You know, we're having a good
time, and that's where love is.

1462
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,199
With love is where the fun is. Love is where we're all having a

1463
01:53:51,319 --> 01:53:55,600
joyful time. None of us have
got an agenda. You know. The

1464
01:53:55,680 --> 01:54:00,880
conversation just flowing and a lot of
interesting stuff is coming up, and it's

1465
01:54:00,039 --> 01:54:05,760
just magic. And interestingly, this
mindset of I'm right and you're wrong,

1466
01:54:06,079 --> 01:54:10,359
not only has it caused a lot
of wars in the world, but you've

1467
01:54:10,399 --> 01:54:15,399
got the science lot, and especially
the jibbyjabby science lot, where you know

1468
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:18,239
I've got the jab and you must
have it as well, and that the

1469
01:54:18,319 --> 01:54:23,039
whole thing during the COVID era,
of the whole jab thing, of the

1470
01:54:23,119 --> 01:54:26,560
jab versus the unjabbed. To me, it sounded like a cult trying to

1471
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:30,279
convert people to their cult. Yeah, you're so much these religions and science

1472
01:54:30,319 --> 01:54:34,640
as a cult very much. The
cult thing is there. People can't suit

1473
01:54:34,760 --> 01:54:39,439
the cult because it's been around for
so long, but a cultures, a

1474
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:45,600
cult is they're brainwashing. Are some
scientists though, that are doing some research

1475
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:48,800
in to the afterlife and as you
say, you've you've got the people there

1476
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:57,239
that have done the research there on
the life after death near death experiences and

1477
01:54:57,359 --> 01:55:00,960
they've signed the affidavid to say that
it's true. And there are people that

1478
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:10,199
do explore the realms of the afternoon. There's the Schwartz. Gary Schwartz is

1479
01:55:10,279 --> 01:55:15,000
the scientist in America who is you
know. He consults mediums. He's done

1480
01:55:15,039 --> 01:55:18,119
lots of research with mediums. He
does tests for spirits and things, and

1481
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:23,159
he says he finds that the spirits
when he can cox tests to sort of

1482
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:27,800
prove that the validity of them,
he says that they go one step beyond

1483
01:55:27,880 --> 01:55:32,359
and they actually take charge of the
experiment and they do things their way to

1484
01:55:32,439 --> 01:55:35,880
surprise him in a nice way.
They turn the tables on him, and

1485
01:55:36,199 --> 01:55:42,159
they have their own independent thinking in
the experiment, will go to the one

1486
01:55:42,239 --> 01:55:45,640
extra and do something else in the
experiment, which is is a very very

1487
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:49,760
interesting They take charge or that they
have their own independence, he says,

1488
01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:55,359
which is very gratifying. But I
found that in a and well, I

1489
01:55:55,439 --> 01:55:58,600
say, it's a spirit board or
Ouiji board, whatever you want I call

1490
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:04,359
it. My mum came through about
eleven months after she suddenly passed away of

1491
01:56:04,359 --> 01:56:10,560
an analytic aneurism, and she came
through this Uigi board and we had about

1492
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:14,760
four or five spirits turn up.
Me and some other people were there,

1493
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,520
and my mom was patiently waiting in
the wings, so to speak. And

1494
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:21,000
she was the last person to come
in and she said, hi, son,

1495
01:56:21,479 --> 01:56:25,439
and I knew immediately it could only
be one person that was my mom,

1496
01:56:26,079 --> 01:56:32,079
and my dad was still around when
this happened. But she she she's

1497
01:56:32,159 --> 01:56:36,399
meant to keep to her protocol where
she's meant to give the my date of

1498
01:56:36,479 --> 01:56:41,600
birth and say what my middle name
was. But she just went off on

1499
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:45,479
her own tangent and started talking to
and so they let her. They said,

1500
01:56:45,479 --> 01:56:47,039
okay, you you do what you
want to do, mar Grit,

1501
01:56:47,119 --> 01:56:51,520
they said, and she goes,
yes, I will, and she she

1502
01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:56,119
was sort of sort of I wanted
to ask about, well what happened?

1503
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:59,560
You know, have you met your
your mom and dad over there? And

1504
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,840
she's suddenly said, my mom came
and met me. In other words,

1505
01:57:03,119 --> 01:57:06,079
as soon as my mom came out
of her body, she said her own

1506
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:11,520
mother was there waiting for her.
Anticipation, she knew that she was going

1507
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:15,520
to cross over. And I remember
after having this sort of session with her

1508
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:18,680
and she she was sort of saying, what happened. I thought, I

1509
01:57:18,840 --> 01:57:24,439
wonder if my gran appeared in the
doorway of the bedroom where my mom passed

1510
01:57:24,439 --> 01:57:27,159
away. And I sat on the
bed of the bed that she passed away

1511
01:57:27,199 --> 01:57:30,119
on, and I looked across and
there was the doorway the bedroom. Then

1512
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:32,920
I thought one of my graham was
waiting in that doorway, like the idea

1513
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:38,640
of this nearing hobored type of formation, you know. But again she took

1514
01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:41,640
charge. She suddenly said, yeah, my mom was waiting for me.

1515
01:57:42,279 --> 01:57:45,640
And rather than I say, oh, I missed you, she the surprising

1516
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:48,000
thing. She came through and said
I miss you too. And I was

1517
01:57:48,079 --> 01:57:51,439
really surprising because you tend to think
oh. I thought it was just a

1518
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:56,640
living that missed the dead, but
the dead the spirits missed the living too,

1519
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:00,520
which I thought was very interesting.
That's very interesting. It's like the

1520
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:04,159
story of that fiance, you know, that couple where he got killed in

1521
01:58:04,239 --> 01:58:08,920
the next Yes, you know,
it's interesting what you're saying, because it's

1522
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:13,479
obvious that he was missing her,
finding it really hard to be away from

1523
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,479
her. She was him, which
is why she could really help him by

1524
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:23,840
working with mediums like you. Just
as you know he was trying to help

1525
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:27,920
her. He also needs help to
get over the mosque. You know,

1526
01:58:28,079 --> 01:58:34,359
it's a tragic bloss Yeah. Yeah, So do you have any kind of

1527
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:41,439
expectations of when you cross over,
David, of what you're likely to encounter,

1528
01:58:42,079 --> 01:58:45,239
or do you think it's a Jesus
character that is going to meet you,

1529
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:50,640
or a Buddhist monk or something,
Because you've got lots of various white

1530
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:57,119
maybe I think they're going to be
terribly confused with our multi faith. So

1531
01:58:57,199 --> 01:59:00,079
I've got Kwan Yin and I've got
Shee. Yeah, they'll all be tussling

1532
01:59:00,279 --> 01:59:03,479
saying, you know, saying,
now I'm pushing against each other, trying

1533
01:59:03,479 --> 01:59:08,000
to come along and be the one
to receive me. Now, I mean,

1534
01:59:08,079 --> 01:59:12,680
I I would love to meet my
father, you know, he's passed

1535
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,039
over. I'd love it if he
said to greet me and my mother.

1536
01:59:15,119 --> 01:59:17,479
I'd be loved to have my mom
and dad and because they you know,

1537
01:59:17,680 --> 01:59:23,359
they were very special to me in
my life. And yeah, I would

1538
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:27,319
be lovely to meet I look forward
to meeting Shiva. I look forward to

1539
01:59:27,399 --> 01:59:31,680
meeting Kwan Yin and mother Mary is
a very powerful connection in my life.

1540
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:41,560
She's she's she's very strong. And
I actually had an apparition of Mary and

1541
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:48,760
Jesus in Measure Glorier and it was
from very interesting because I'd gone with my

1542
01:59:49,880 --> 01:59:54,840
book. I took my manuscript to
the book because I wanted to get a

1543
01:59:54,920 --> 01:59:59,560
blessing for the book. You see, you know that it's an earlier version

1544
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,960
of this you know this book here
and in any way, so I took

1545
02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:11,000
it out to Measure Glorye and I
went into the church and it's like,

1546
02:00:11,199 --> 02:00:14,880
I have all these negative thoughts because
I was a Catholic, but I hadn't

1547
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:18,760
been to church for many years and
I've become very anti Catholic, and so

1548
02:00:18,920 --> 02:00:23,560
I was going through a bit of
a challenging time and you know, a

1549
02:00:23,600 --> 02:00:27,720
lot of resistance. But the monk, the priest was talking about the passion,

1550
02:00:28,199 --> 02:00:30,640
and I suddenly tuned in to these
what it must have been like for

1551
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,279
Jesus. He was a young man
and he, you know, to being

1552
02:00:33,399 --> 02:00:38,359
flogged alive, and I suddenly had
this wave of compassion for him. When

1553
02:00:38,479 --> 02:00:41,880
that wave of compassion happened, it
was like this hand went through my head

1554
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:46,800
and all those negative thoughts were like
I saw them scaring away, like these

1555
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:51,319
little black monkeys. They were like
these thoughts were living entities, and they

1556
02:00:51,359 --> 02:00:57,319
were brushed out of my head and
I just wept with jaw and relief.

1557
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:00,359
And then this figure appeared on my
right. It was very sort of ethereal,

1558
02:01:00,399 --> 02:01:03,600
a bit like those Rudolph Steiner paintings, you know, the children do,

1559
02:01:04,359 --> 02:01:10,000
and very misty and indistinct, and
I knew immediately it was Mary,

1560
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:15,239
and I recognized her and I said, you know, please introduce me to

1561
02:01:15,279 --> 02:01:18,520
your son. Well, then the
next thing I knew is that he was

1562
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,840
standing in front of me, but
he was very distinct. He was in

1563
02:01:21,960 --> 02:01:26,720
this white robe and it was blowing
in the wind. And the fascinating thing,

1564
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:31,279
Neil, is that it was hot
and I could feel the dust in

1565
02:01:31,399 --> 02:01:36,720
the wind stinging my cheek, and
he was standing and he was looking at

1566
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:39,479
me. He didn't say anything,
and I was looking at him, and

1567
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:43,199
he was in a distance a bit
in a hillock, and suddenly this light

1568
02:01:43,439 --> 02:01:48,079
came from his heart and he hit
me in the chest and it filled me

1569
02:01:48,199 --> 02:01:51,760
with this liquid light that was also
love. It was like oil, but

1570
02:01:53,159 --> 02:01:57,439
I was absolutely blissed out of my
brains. I was just full of bliss.

1571
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,359
And then this bliss began to move
down, and so there was normal

1572
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:06,439
forehead there, but blissed out nose, and then normal nose blisted out now

1573
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,279
and it was moving up. You
know. I had these sort of blissed

1574
02:02:10,319 --> 02:02:14,800
out legs that were sort of normalizing, and it was like oil going through

1575
02:02:14,840 --> 02:02:17,199
a tube, you know, then
the viniscus oil coming up in it.

1576
02:02:17,600 --> 02:02:21,119
It all came up, and then
it got into my heart, and then

1577
02:02:21,159 --> 02:02:26,800
it moved down. This liquid love
and light moved down my arms and into

1578
02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:31,159
my hands, and my hands were
absolutely vibrating with the power. And I

1579
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:36,760
flicked this wallet out of my jacket
pocket. I was weeping, the tears

1580
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:41,239
were streaming down my face. I
came to it and I didn't want the

1581
02:02:41,279 --> 02:02:44,039
money on the The first thing I
said to my you know, my film

1582
02:02:44,119 --> 02:02:46,680
said by me, you take that
wretched money stuff and look after that from

1583
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:50,199
now on. And then the sheet
we knew what we had to do,

1584
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:55,159
and my hands were vibrating with this
power. And she led me that.

1585
02:02:55,279 --> 02:02:58,079
She opened all the doors for me, led me through the village of Measure

1586
02:02:58,119 --> 02:03:03,319
Gloria back to our hotel room,
took the manuscript out of my brief suitcase,

1587
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:09,399
placed it in my hands, and
all the power and vimph into the

1588
02:03:09,439 --> 02:03:18,000
manuscript. That's the power in that
book by Jesus Christ himself. Yeah,

1589
02:03:18,079 --> 02:03:21,560
by the sacred Heart of Jesus.
Yeah. I mean, that's really Catholic

1590
02:03:21,680 --> 02:03:26,439
sacred heart. But I really experienced
it came out of his heart that you

1591
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:30,520
know, you see that these Catholic
things with this light streaming out of his

1592
02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,279
heart. When you felt that,
when you've experienced it and it's filled you

1593
02:03:33,359 --> 02:03:43,479
with liquid light, man, it's
like your reprobated. But he loves me

1594
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,760
nonetheless, you know what I mean, that's the story you get. I

1595
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:51,279
didn't deserve that, you know.
Oh wow, how there was a there

1596
02:03:51,359 --> 02:03:55,960
was a guy I think he's passed
over the now called Ron Pearson. Oh

1597
02:03:56,039 --> 02:04:00,520
I yes, yes, yeah,
you knew him. Ah. So he

1598
02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:03,479
was looking into the physics of the
afterlife as well, and I was trying

1599
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:08,239
to understand that and he's talking about
dark matter and things like that. And

1600
02:04:08,359 --> 02:04:12,359
I believe that he thought that that's
possibly the key to it was this dark

1601
02:04:12,479 --> 02:04:15,600
matter that they're described in the universe. They don't know what it is,

1602
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:20,079
but it's so much of the universus
eighty percent or something like that. What's

1603
02:04:20,159 --> 02:04:24,119
your thoughts on Rob, Well,
I think he's where he's onto something.

1604
02:04:24,199 --> 02:04:28,840
I think that's the non atomic matter, that the plasma that's filling space.

1605
02:04:29,319 --> 02:04:34,279
You know, the sea's getting saltier
through the salt coming off the land.

1606
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:40,079
Well, what happened I call it
star ark. These stars are blasting off

1607
02:04:40,159 --> 02:04:45,560
you know, the the you know, the solar flares and things like that,

1608
02:04:45,439 --> 02:04:50,800
the cosmic cosmic wind. There's all
this non atomic matter pouring out of

1609
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:57,800
the stars into space and it cools
down and the spirits they feed off this

1610
02:04:58,319 --> 02:05:01,840
plasma and that they use that to
grow their bodies as we grow ours.

1611
02:05:02,319 --> 02:05:11,840
So space is full of literally billions
and billions of these space beings who are

1612
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:16,399
formed, these extraterrestrial beings that this
isn't now the fifth dimension, this is

1613
02:05:16,479 --> 02:05:23,520
the super physical and their bodies are
these fields, you know, these electromagnetic

1614
02:05:23,640 --> 02:05:30,119
fields that of of of energy.
And the thing is that that I think

1615
02:05:30,239 --> 02:05:33,399
that that's what the dark matter is. Space is full of this this,

1616
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:40,319
this plasma, and that's that's full
of spirit. Eighty percent of the universe

1617
02:05:40,399 --> 02:05:45,560
is full of all these spirits bodies. Yeah, so so these spirits would

1618
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:50,960
would they be easier although it's plasma, would that be a physical kind of

1619
02:05:51,000 --> 02:05:56,960
three dimensional material? Is it the
same thing as exoplasma? Is that a

1620
02:05:57,079 --> 02:06:00,079
different thing? It is, it's
very it's at it. There's a link

1621
02:06:00,119 --> 02:06:05,600
between that nectar plasm. But the
point about the dark it's still whirlpools.

1622
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:09,920
You know, I've just lost my
ball of wool i. It is it

1623
02:06:10,119 --> 02:06:16,079
basically the plasma is these whirlpools,
but they're not organized into an atom,

1624
02:06:16,159 --> 02:06:20,319
you know where you get the electrons
buzzing around, the protons and the neutrons

1625
02:06:20,359 --> 02:06:24,760
and the nutrous of the atom.
Well, the temperature is too high in

1626
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:29,720
the stars to get organized like that. And when the plasma gets blown off

1627
02:06:30,279 --> 02:06:33,479
into space from the stars, you
see, it doesn't form atoms. You

1628
02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:39,680
get atomic nuclei and you get and
you know, protons and electrons on that.

1629
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:43,079
But they can form atoms, you
know, they can organize, but

1630
02:06:44,079 --> 02:06:49,760
the distances are so vast and that
it's more likely that they are incorporated into

1631
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:57,000
these fields because the fields doesn't matter
how big the distance. These electric fields

1632
02:06:57,039 --> 02:07:00,720
are infinite in extension, and so
the body is of these spirits spirits is

1633
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,119
angelic being cut in plasma. It
can be really vast. There can be

1634
02:07:05,239 --> 02:07:12,520
hundreds of miles across or thousands of
miles across, even in their body.

1635
02:07:12,600 --> 02:07:19,279
You see no wow now on the
other side of life. Uh. They

1636
02:07:19,800 --> 02:07:26,520
various books that I've read anyway,
and certainly through the trance medium ship of

1637
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:32,039
Leslie Flint, when various people spoke
through him in sales is they would describe

1638
02:07:32,119 --> 02:07:36,720
the afterlife that they crossed over to, and many of them said, there

1639
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:42,000
doesn't seem to be a sun there, as the light comes from everywhere wherever

1640
02:07:42,079 --> 02:07:46,640
they are. And it's an interesting
thing of my brother. After my mum

1641
02:07:46,680 --> 02:07:49,520
had passed away, about a month
afterwards, he said he had a dream

1642
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:53,239
about my mum, which you know, I'm not surprised really, we're all

1643
02:07:53,279 --> 02:07:57,800
going through that emotional baggage of losing
someone. And he had a dream about

1644
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:03,199
her where she came down the stairs
from where she died in the dream downstairs,

1645
02:08:03,239 --> 02:08:05,880
and she materialized as a solid person
so we all thought, oh,

1646
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:09,680
great, mom's back where we'll take
her off for a family meal at the

1647
02:08:09,720 --> 02:08:13,199
local pub. So we'll climbed in
the car. In the dream drove off

1648
02:08:13,239 --> 02:08:16,680
to the family pub and had a
nice meal there and then came back.

1649
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:20,039
And then she said, I've got
to go now, I've got to go

1650
02:08:20,239 --> 02:08:22,920
back. So she went back up
the stairs, and as she was going

1651
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,319
up the stairs, my brother in
his dream said, will you come back?

1652
02:08:26,479 --> 02:08:31,079
And she turned around and said,
and this is quite an interesting remark.

1653
02:08:31,159 --> 02:08:33,880
She said, I will return,
and I will come back to the

1654
02:08:35,039 --> 02:08:39,199
land of shadows. And then she
went up the stairs and just slowly de

1655
02:08:39,399 --> 02:08:41,319
material eyes as she went away.
And I thought, that's an interesting thing,

1656
02:08:41,479 --> 02:08:46,279
the land of shadows, because we
have either sun. Yeah, And

1657
02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:50,520
I started thinking about the Leslie Flick
tapes and things where they said there's no

1658
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:54,119
sun, that there can't be any
shadows. I presume, I don't know.

1659
02:08:54,840 --> 02:08:58,640
There's light coming out of every worst
wonder if it's brilliant. This is

1660
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:03,359
such an interesting conversation. But just
of course it's the it's all the light

1661
02:09:03,479 --> 02:09:11,520
coming from the sun that sets up
the shadows. Here's another interesting physics thing

1662
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:16,159
that will blow your brain a little
bit. And I don't pretend to even

1663
02:09:16,239 --> 02:09:20,359
address the physics, but it certainly
warps my brain. About twenty years ago,

1664
02:09:20,399 --> 02:09:24,199
I saw a DVD because I was
writing a book co writing a book

1665
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:28,079
at the titled fairy Craft. So
I was doing lots of research into the

1666
02:09:28,199 --> 02:09:31,159
fairy kingdoms and the fairy realms and
things, and I came across this DVD.

1667
02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:33,319
In for those that want to try
and watch it themselves, it's on

1668
02:09:33,399 --> 02:09:39,000
YouTube. It's called The Very Faith
by Canadian filmmaker John Walker, and he

1669
02:09:39,640 --> 02:09:46,560
interviews this Glasswegian build up Steve o'delle
I think his name is, and he

1670
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:50,560
was on holiday by himself by all
accounts, in southern Ireland and it just

1671
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:56,680
finished raining and he was in this
area called Fairy Hill or Fairy four and

1672
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:01,880
he said he could hear this weird
sort of singing or music coming from somewhere,

1673
02:10:01,960 --> 02:10:03,920
couldn't trace where it was coming from, but the rain had just finished

1674
02:10:05,159 --> 02:10:07,479
raining on this hill. He said, the sun was starting to come out

1675
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:11,720
and he started to form a lovely
rainbow over the valley and he thought,

1676
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:15,680
wow, what a lovely, stunning
view that is with a rainbow and the

1677
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:20,159
sun's and what a beautiful view.
He said all the time that he was

1678
02:10:20,359 --> 02:10:24,159
entranced by this lovely view. There
was something out of his peripheral vision down

1679
02:10:24,199 --> 02:10:28,439
here that was moving and it buggled
him, and he didn't know what it

1680
02:10:28,640 --> 02:10:31,760
was, but he carried on looking
at this scene none bold, but this

1681
02:10:31,920 --> 02:10:35,439
thing was still moving down near it, and he said, what is that?

1682
02:10:35,479 --> 02:10:39,279
And he looked down and he said
he saw a small woman about a

1683
02:10:39,319 --> 02:10:43,119
foot high, maybe maybe a bit
taller, brown leathery looking skin, brown

1684
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:46,640
leathery sort of hat, and she
appeared to have He described them as they

1685
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:50,960
looked like an old pair of sheep
sheares, that said, nearest thing he

1686
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,920
could place it to, like an
old pair of sheep sheares. And he

1687
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:58,279
said she was cutting around the sole
of his shoe like this, and he

1688
02:10:58,319 --> 02:11:03,039
said, where his extended on the
hill, He said, there was some

1689
02:11:03,239 --> 02:11:07,079
male equivalent of this being this small
woman who and this is where it gets

1690
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:13,760
weird, was rolling up Steve's shadow
like a roll of paper. And he

1691
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:16,239
said he just looked at them,
and he didn't know what to say,

1692
02:11:16,479 --> 02:11:20,720
and he just went like that to
say, what you're doing? And they

1693
02:11:20,760 --> 02:11:24,000
suddenly looked at each other in shock, as if to say, he can

1694
02:11:24,119 --> 02:11:26,720
see us. He said they went
and just vanished like that, And he

1695
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:31,039
said, I dread to think what
would happened to me had I not seen

1696
02:11:31,119 --> 02:11:35,159
them? They would have carried on
cut this shadow away and rolled it up

1697
02:11:35,199 --> 02:11:39,920
my paper and stole it away.
Think because the sun had only just come

1698
02:11:39,039 --> 02:11:43,439
out to shine, which caused his
shadow to form, because presuming it was

1699
02:11:43,479 --> 02:11:48,479
overcast, but you know, and
everything. So it's almost if they were

1700
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:52,439
laying in wait for a shadow to
be formed that they could then steal.

1701
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:58,840
Amazing that. I mean, it's
just mind blowing. I'd been like,

1702
02:12:00,079 --> 02:12:05,079
can't comment on that. Yeah,
feeling this man's going to answer good question

1703
02:12:05,239 --> 02:12:09,720
that I have no answer for.
I've never been so blown out by my

1704
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:15,479
life that they were stealing his shadow. I love stories like the Noild stories

1705
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:18,439
like that. It really resonates with
me. Yeah. Yeah, if you

1706
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:31,119
like stories like that, and you
can watch itself. What's that, Andrew?

1707
02:12:31,479 --> 02:12:37,279
If you like weird, still have
a look at the Woolleton Gnomes.

1708
02:12:39,079 --> 02:12:43,359
Oh lovely, can you send me
the link? Yeah? Yeah, the

1709
02:12:43,399 --> 02:12:50,479
Wolleton Nomes. He's saying, well, yeah, yeah, a series of

1710
02:12:50,600 --> 02:12:54,720
children. I think in nineteen seventy
nine they were playing by the park of

1711
02:12:54,760 --> 02:12:58,880
Wollaton Park on the edge and it's
just getting dusk. It was thinking early

1712
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:03,640
September, and there's about seven of
them and they were playing. And then

1713
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:07,439
suddenly, as it got dars at
dusk, these lights started to pierre out

1714
02:13:07,479 --> 02:13:11,920
the corners of trees, and out
of these trees came these small little cars

1715
02:13:11,439 --> 02:13:16,560
with gnomes in them. And they
thought. There must have been about sixty

1716
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:20,760
nomes in about thirty cars, two
nomes per car. And these cars hovered.

1717
02:13:22,239 --> 02:13:26,760
They didn't have wheels like we'd understand. They flew over, buzzed over

1718
02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:30,760
logs and things like that, like
a bit like Luke Skywalker's land Speed or

1719
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:33,800
something like that I'd imagine out of
Star Wars. And they hovered and they

1720
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,399
chased the kids around the park.
But it wasn't done in a nasty fashion.

1721
02:13:37,760 --> 02:13:43,880
It was done in a lighthearted arm
chased me kind of thing. Interesting

1722
02:13:45,000 --> 02:13:48,520
enough, as soon as they got
to the edge of the park where the

1723
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:52,920
light was coming through, like from
the street lamps, and I wouldn't there.

1724
02:13:52,319 --> 02:13:54,680
The nomes couldn't go to the light
of the edge of the park where

1725
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:58,479
the street lamps were. It's as
if the daylight or the light of the

1726
02:13:58,560 --> 02:14:03,640
lamp affected their material realization in some
way. Isn't that stea, isn't that

1727
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:07,439
extraordinary? Yeah? So the same
with sounds that you have to do them

1728
02:14:07,479 --> 02:14:13,079
in the dark, don't you?
Mostly yes, mostly yeah with hmmmm,

1729
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:20,319
but yeah, with the the shadow
stealing. I think they were called brownies.

1730
02:14:20,359 --> 02:14:24,239
That's what they called him in folks. That's exactly small brown beings and

1731
02:14:24,319 --> 02:14:28,840
they're kind of presumably part of this
fairy kingdom. Yeah, and they're brown

1732
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:31,920
is because of the brown, leathery
looking skin they've got. But uh,

1733
02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,319
we were talking to fairy law enthusiasts
Simon Young a few months ago and I

1734
02:14:37,399 --> 02:14:39,960
told him that story as well,
and he was thrawed by it. And

1735
02:14:41,039 --> 02:14:45,119
he said that a couple of these
brownies appeared on this guy's bed one night,

1736
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:48,359
and he said they had a bag. And he said that when he

1737
02:14:48,439 --> 02:14:50,680
woke up and there's these two brownies
setting on his bed holding the bay,

1738
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:54,079
said they were eyeing him up like
they would eye up a horse market,

1739
02:14:54,920 --> 02:15:00,199
you know, like he was a
commodity, and they were prepared to take

1740
02:15:00,279 --> 02:15:03,359
something from him and put it in
that bag. I suspect, which was

1741
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:07,800
again the bag is almost symbolical taking
something. They were shopping for something,

1742
02:15:07,359 --> 02:15:13,079
and these gnomes sorry that these browniests
in Ireland would do the same to Steve

1743
02:15:13,119 --> 02:15:16,079
Odell. But it's a bit like
Peter Band taking the shadow of Peter Band

1744
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:20,800
separating and that kind of stuff.
It's amazing. But then then maybe wonder

1745
02:15:20,800 --> 02:15:26,439
if they come from the place.
They come from a place presumably like my

1746
02:15:26,560 --> 02:15:31,520
mum described, with no shadows because
there's no sum there, and so my

1747
02:15:31,760 --> 02:15:37,239
mum described in the dream the land
of shadows, and yet these these creatures

1748
02:15:37,279 --> 02:15:39,880
have come to steal the shadow.
Steve Odell, you see so good,

1749
02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:45,159
that's what would be progagonous, what
would be valuable in their world. Shadows

1750
02:15:45,199 --> 02:15:50,239
would be really treasured out because you
know, I mean, you see,

1751
02:15:50,279 --> 02:15:54,720
our world feels so concrete, and
yet you know the fact that the shadow

1752
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:58,880
can have some sort of reality.
It's almost like you're you're stepping between the

1753
02:16:00,119 --> 02:16:03,520
worlds. When you're actually seeing these
creatures, you're seeing into their world.

1754
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:09,520
It's like your vision that the brain
has these filters which closes us down from

1755
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:15,880
our perception of the hyper physical world. But as soon as that you lift

1756
02:16:15,960 --> 02:16:20,359
the filters. That's why these you
know, these narcotic drugs like you know,

1757
02:16:20,439 --> 02:16:24,199
aurhuasca and and you know, cannabis
and LSD and these sort of things.

1758
02:16:24,520 --> 02:16:28,399
They alter the chemistry of the brain, so the filters drop and people

1759
02:16:28,479 --> 02:16:33,559
start seeing into the other worlds.
It's like, you, guys, the

1760
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:37,719
fact that your your mediums and psychics
means that the filters aren't working properly,

1761
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:41,280
you see what I mean. So
you're not you're not really cutting yourselves off

1762
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:46,319
from from the other world to be
full in the physical. So when the

1763
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:50,479
people are seeing the brown is and
that they're seeing that, it's almost like

1764
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:56,719
the veils are really thin and you
know, so it's almost like the shadow

1765
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,920
has. To us, it's just
a feeling, it's just a shadow,

1766
02:17:00,079 --> 02:17:03,680
but to them it's almost kind of
physicality in their world, you see.

1767
02:17:05,000 --> 02:17:09,120
It's fascinating. Anyway, I've got
my nome how Yeah I knew what.

1768
02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:15,479
Yeah, it was a very gnome
like I know, we're we're we're we're

1769
02:17:15,680 --> 02:17:22,639
talking about gnomes and I'm a thrected
gone and revealed my real identity. Right,

1770
02:17:22,719 --> 02:17:31,799
I think we better draw this chat
closet chat to Yeah, iowuasca Jack,

1771
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:33,879
Gary Robinson, if you're listening,
we'll be going to have you back

1772
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:39,840
to You're gonna hopefully tell us about
your a Aquascar research. So we longly

1773
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:41,559
was chatting you later on this year. Gary, if you're listening, So

1774
02:17:41,760 --> 02:17:45,920
we'd like to say thank you to
David Ash for talking to us about his

1775
02:17:46,079 --> 02:17:50,040
book Super Energy, which I bought
a copy of Amazon, but it will

1776
02:17:50,079 --> 02:17:54,000
be deserving W Smith and other good
retailers, but certainly you can get it

1777
02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:58,200
off Amazon and you'll bring out another
book soon, David, Is that right?

1778
02:17:58,399 --> 02:18:03,719
Yeah, I'm working on another other
book called was Einstein Wright and yeah,

1779
02:18:03,799 --> 02:18:07,120
it's it's it's. What I'm doing
is I'm separating out the Quantum Vortex

1780
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,600
and I'm coming in with that first
and then I'm going to readdo the Super

1781
02:18:11,760 --> 02:18:15,920
Energy and updated and upgraded and do
that as the second book as well,

1782
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:22,920
So the two books are separate.
You see. Yep, excellent And if

1783
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:26,200
people you've got your website as well, haven't you. Yeah, I've got

1784
02:18:26,559 --> 02:18:31,399
I've got dot com. There's a
David Ash dot co. But it it

1785
02:18:31,040 --> 02:18:37,200
it it's it's it's pretty rudimentary.
What I prefer people to do is go

1786
02:18:37,440 --> 02:18:43,639
to my substat page and on substack. David Ashes three three three you get

1787
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:48,799
all my all the essays, you
can read the essays that are going to

1788
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:50,799
be in the new book. And
also if you go on to bandcamp,

1789
02:18:52,280 --> 02:18:56,600
I've got an album out of really
beautiful spiritual music called Balm for the Soul.

1790
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:03,879
So it's good if people go to
camp and and also it's on Spotify

1791
02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:07,719
and all the other platforms. But
go to band camp and listen to my

1792
02:19:07,799 --> 02:19:13,760
album and you'll find it really will
be bound for your soul mhm. And

1793
02:19:13,879 --> 02:19:16,040
of course I've got all my very
I've got I've got my channel on you

1794
02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:20,120
tube as well, so there's a
lot of news YouTube. They were you

1795
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:26,799
find David everywhere on spot where the
nome is everywhere, excellent, the nome,

1796
02:19:28,520 --> 02:19:33,680
the physicistnome is everywhere is the all
right, thank you, thank you

1797
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:37,719
very much, David Andy. Any
last words before we I just think when

1798
02:19:37,799 --> 02:19:41,280
when I think of band camp,
I just think of American Pie and some

1799
02:19:41,479 --> 02:19:48,120
very strange goings on. M I'll
have to look into that then, all

1800
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:54,360
right, they thank you very much. Indeed, one of all you've been

1801
02:19:54,559 --> 02:19:56,799
listening to the peach Shot for your
network, and thank you very much once

1802
02:19:56,840 --> 02:20:00,280
again for David ash and we wish
him good luck and his new book,

1803
02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:03,479
and we'll see you next month of
the Paranormal Peek Show. Good Night,