Hi, Welcome to the paranorl Will Peep show on the paranorl WI UK.
Ready your network with myself, Nina Ward and fellow hosts return once more from
the Darkness, It's and the chaplain. Well, I'm definitely not from the
light. Hello. Yeah. Well, I say the darkness because you're coming
out the winter months now, so you've been like frequent in dark alleyways and
doing readings on for people. That's what I kind of guessed from that.
Oh, absolutely mean, I thought you meant kind of like from Halloween.
Ere. I remember the last time I was here with Christmas Halloween whenever it
was. Yeah, last couple of shows Ben did January and he also did
February, so I think you must have been with us for December, that's
right, Yeah, Christmas then, yeah, the Christmas darkness is a gradually
a subsiding now. Yeah, and I'm getting a little bit happier as the
spring starts to become things and we're starting to get a bit eastery. So
that's nice. So how have you been doing well? My favorite times of
year are spring and autumn. Anyway, I find like the depths of winter
too cold, and the depths of summer too hot, so it's coming up
to my favorite time when it's just about right. Yeah, however, I
be out arranging events and yes, but really my life is basically arranging psychic
nights here there and everywhere. If people haven't joined it already joined tuned and
events tuned with the the tuned in events on Facebook, Instagram and blah blah
blah, and yeah, we're kind of like here, there and everywhere.
Well, we're going to do a new concept. We're going to do psychic
suppers now. So this is where people sit down and they have some food,
have a nice little buffet meal, and then have readings at the same
time. So kicking that off as well. I'm familiar with that because I've
done that a few spiritualist churches over the years where I've been roped in as
a psychic breeder medium, and they tend to do fish and chip. I'm
the only person that has a vegetarian option. We kind of tend to forget
about that and they go, oh and it throws a spanner and networks a
bit, but yeah, never in mind to get sorted. And I've also
been doing a little bit of watching of Dr John Campbell on YouTube and he
came up with are very interesting, I think to do with the national statistics
of deaths. And as we both know, there's been as in the UK
since saying introduced to certain medical procedure a few years ago that there's turned medical
and experimental and suddenly the deaths throughout the world started to skyrocket and no one
can explain them or people are refusing to explain them. So the UK is
following suit it sceniums of Canada, where they're now readjusting the way they count
their death figure apparently. Yeah, all the people that are died are apparently
going to resurrect themselves now because they appear, seriously appear to be alive according
to these figures. So yeah, problem problem sorted basically to solving the problem.
You move the goalpost and you say, don't look there, look at
this new capcation instead. So yeah, I mean, I mean Jaban,
Japan did the same thing with Fukushima. Did you hear about this one?
So they have a satan They had a safe limit of how much the human
body can take in terms of radio activity, but they needed personnel to go
in and sort out the Fukushima situation, and so All they did was raise
the limit, just raise the limit of I'm joking, raise the limit of
what is the safe limit a human body can take for radiation? And that
allowed personnel to come in. It's great. All you do with the science
is you just make it up. You just make up the science. Did
you have that guy in New Zealand as well, who's actually working for the
government, who's working as a data analyst, and he seems to reckon this
is his allegation. He seems to reckon that within two weeks, twenty one
percent of people who got the jibbidy jibjib died within two weeks twenty one percent
of people. Is that New Zealand or just worldwide or this particular data analyst
was New Zealand, who's working for the New Zealand government. I can try
and find his name a bit later on, but he came out in public
and I think he was on Wow Info Wars and he was he was a
whistleblower basically, and he basically said, look, this is this is what's
going on. This is my job. I was being paid by the government
to sort out the data and statistics. This is what I found is absolutely
shocking and the whole world should know about it. And guess what BBC News
says, conspiracy theory. Yeah, brilliant, of course that's the lover.
Yeah, and I'm sure they would love to look at the date themselves,
but of course they won't of course, means to report it. Yeah.
Anyway, talking to science, Yeah, very pleased tonight. We've got a
scientist with us tonight. There's a lot of pretend it's the real scientists.
Yeah, mister David Ash joins us and he welcome. David, Are you
there. I'm indeed here, lovely to be with you. Bert, thank
you very much for inviting me. Hello, David, I'm hoping you didn't
jabs. No, I didn't do the job. I wouldn't it go.
Let's thank you. We need more scientists to actually speak out the truth.
Yeah, definitely all that. Why did you have interest? Why did you
decide not to be persuaded? Well, because it's it's non proven science.
I mean, those guys were coming out with that jibbidy jab without you know,
proper tests, and it's obvious to me that the whole COVID issue was
a money making scam for the pharmaceutical industry. Then what it is is that
they've invested huge sums of money in this messenger are in a technology that the
patents run out within twenty years, So they needed a pandemic to test it,
you know, to get their money back within the ten twenty year timeframe.
And because the pandemic wasn't coming along very quickly, they needed to sort
of you know, there were a number of covids, wasn't there. There
was swine flu and you know, there's other other but they didn't kind of
yells invasions. Yeah, so they needed to sort of bioengineer the virus a
bit to make sure it worked this time so that they could have a damn
good pandemic and make a shitload of money. And you know, but yeah,
I mean look at that as you were saying, and with the consequences
of terrible shocking in terms of killing people. Yeah, yeah, I think
I found it. I think his name might be Barry Young interviewed by Liz
Gunn. I think that's I think that's yeah, I've recognized this video clip.
So, yeah, the New Zealand Health Ministry basically denies it, but
Barry Young is the guy to have a look at and he's interviewed by Liz
Gunn. Make up your own minds on that, folks, and David,
just to kind of like back up what you're saying in terms of like a
made up science. I remember the people pushing the Gibudy jabs basically saying,
if you going to have like a main jub but then subsequent boosters, you
can mix them up a little bit. You can mix them up a little
bit. Now, the thing is, each of these jabs have got a
different technology, So some of them are MNA and some of them are not.
And then some of them work like a normal flu vaccine and the others
don't. So there's there's different technologies. But the experts, so called experts,
are saying you can mix them up. So you can have a fires
over here, you can have a Johnson and Johnson over here, you could
have an astrozenica over here. You know, mix that. That's not science.
The science is not just you know, for a hodgepodge load of ingredients
and just say hope for the best. It's ridiculous. Would you agree with
that, David? Definitely? Word, I mean that's news to me that
you could they're saying that you could mix them, because I think that's shocking
news. Yeah. Yeah, well I guess you can mix. It's just
the results you get mixed. No one's stopping you mixing them. But especially
you can actually come back and now you mixed them up. I mean,
I mean, like it's like a chef meal, a chef going to the
kitchen. Technically he could just pull random ingredients out. He could have I
don't know, a bit of lettuce, a bit of cucumber, a bit
of tuna, maybe some chocolate, maybe a bit of raspberry sauce, and
maybe some custard and furrow it all together and serve that as a meal.
Whether it will be a nice meal or not, I don't know, but
that's it. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure the rats for the eat
it and because they don't care. But I'm thoughtually, when you're testing these
things out on rats and mice, they don't even know that they're being tested.
That's the problem. But I'm thortunately the great British public and pubby band
being tested either. Yeah, this is fantastic. So as we're talking,
I'm kind of googling things. So I've put in the mix of the mix
of the jubidy jabs. We'll just call it jibbey jabs. It says mixing
jubidy jabs and this is from the NIH their official website. Mixing jubidy jabs
may enhance the immune response and it increases flexibility for when people need a booster
dose but doses of the jibudy jab they first receive are not available. So
basically saying it enhances the immune response if you mix the jubidy jabs. Awesome,
So I said, next medical condition that I have, Neil, I'm
just going to go into a pharmacist. I'm just going to go randomly,
I have that one, that one, that one, and to mix them
all together, you know, whatever pills they could peel from the you know,
take for the shelfs. Just crush them all up, stick them in
apart. You know, happy days. That's how science works, isn't it?
Absolutely Absolutely so, David, if we move on from the controversial,
and i'd dare say your book perhaps controversial away. You've you've brought out this
wonderful book which is called super Energy and the Quantum Vortex, and I know
you've been doing presentations, You've done a few YouTube video interviews, as well,
so and I'm getting through it. But I must, as I explained
before we started, that I'm not one for physics and things like that.
It must be a challenge industry to try and take physics that is in the
realms of people like Niles Boorr and uh Einstein all these people and try and
bring it into Layman's terms for people to understand. It's always a challenge.
Well, the thing is that I'm a physics teacher, not a professional physicist,
and my job is to make complex, you know, physics understandable to
children and to the late public. So it's right up my street to you
know, to get rid of the maths. And I explained things with analogies,
cat and mouse analogies, hedgehog and flee analogies, tadpole analogies, full
of analogies, and it's a bit like the Parables of Jesus. He you
know, he taught people with little stories, and I'm doing the same with
the with the physics. So yeah, it's it's a challenge. But I've
got this this set of ten essays I've written on the quantum vortex, which
I'm publishing as a book. Lose Einstein, Wright and it's a handbook of
the universe, and so you can get a complete understanding universe from the smallest
quantum to the largest galaxy in just a very small little book. So it's
kind of making science really simple and understandable. And I'm a whistleblower of myself
because I'm blowing the whistle on quantum mechanics. So before I start, I
crash quantum mechanics, quark theory, the general theory of relativity, and basically
replace most of the theories in physics with an incredibly simple idea which I got
out of the ogic philosophy. So it's interesting. You guys are channels because
you see, I am not capable of doing what I'm doing. It's what's
happened is that I've received the information. The word genius comes from which means
uh spirit in the in the in the Islamic world, I think is mitth
it's the Islamic world. It's it's Persian. It's sorry about that. I
just have a little mental block. The word jin in Persian stands for spirit,
so genius actually means someone who's inspired by spirit. So I know that
I'm getting my information from the spirit world and I've been told that one of
my guides is Albert Einstein. I've had this tremendous affinity with Albert Einstein,
and I was just doing some I get these ideas to just pop into my
head, and I was putting this quote, which is right at the end
of the new book, a really beautiful quote about God that Einstein wrote,
you see. And when I looked up the reference, apparently he's someone It
was a banker who was sending out letters to Nobel Prize laureates want to know
their opinion on God, and so it said that Einstein just scribbled this quote
on the letter. And as I was just about to put that thing in,
this prompt came into my head. He scribbled it on the back of
the letter, and I thought, there's only one person who knows whether he
wrote on the front of the or the back of the road. So that
kind of confirmed for me that basically I'm just an extension of the computer,
but the real person who's doing the work with Albert Einstein working from spirit world,
I'm convinced of that. I can't say that anywhere else, but I
can say to her on the Psychic Show. If he's still to me,
Yeah, have you got the quote to hand, because I'm sure people would
like to hear it. Well, I yes, I have got it to
hand. Actually, if I can pull it up, it means I have
to just go into my computer. Is that okay? Can I? Yeah?
Yeah, sure, I know that. There was a quote by Albert
Einstein said God does not play guys, which, yeah, so what this
is it? It's really beautiful. I'm just just bringing it up now in
number because the whole concepts of people getting ideas for kind of genius concepts,
whether it's song titles or whether it's artistic or whether it's scientific. A lot
of things have been inspired out of the ether, haven't they, Neil,
You've probably heard of this, Like people just get a night or sometimes Neil,
they wake up from a dream. I've heard this before. They wake
up with how this amazing concepts and then they put it down on paper if
they've got pen and paper ahead. And its happened to some physicists actually that
had dreams or I remember some physicists that had dreams of certain things and like
light of atoms or something like that. I can't remember who it was now,
And that's how they got the idea of certain physics. Anyway, I
didn't know genius derived from genie. That's fascinating from spirit. Yeut. I'll
read this out. This is the last This is right at the end of
the book. It's the final paragraph of my book. The Colorado Banker wrote
to a number of Nobel laureates for their opinions on God. On the back
of the letter he received, Einstein scribbled his reply, I cannot conceive of
the personal God who would directly influence the actions of individuals or would sit in
judgment of creatures of his own creation. My religiosity consists of a humble admiration
of the infinitely superior spirit that reveals itself in the little that we can comprehend
about the knowable world. That deeply emotional conviction of the presence of a superior
reasoning power which is revealed in the incomprehensible universe, forms my idea of God
that he kind of doesn't answer it. But I suppose it comes down to
how do you do find what God is? Because it's it's like, it's
not really going into the Judaio Christian version of God. But to some extent
he has got some belief in something that is. It makes it very clear
that he believes in God as a as a superior spirit that is behind,
behind the whole universe. Not you know, it's something much bigger than the
Judaic Christian sort of concept of God. Yeah. Interesting, but I I
I go a lot deeper into this whole thing in my in my physics,
you'll see I make it very clear what that that you know, what that
God is, and also that that God is very personal to us. Because
actually it turns out that E equals mc squared says that everything is energy,
but energy has no mass, Energy is no thing. Energy is actually more
like a thought than a thing. And so the whole base of reality,
because the universe is more like a great thought than a great thing, and
you can't have a great thought without a thinker. So the bedrock of reality
is consciousness. But the thing what I what we discover in the physics is
that if particles are all acts of consciousness, these vortex particles I'm talking about,
then they all come from the same consciousness because they all have exactly the
same physical characteristics. It's almost as though they come out of the same hand.
And therefore the consciousness that underlies the universe, underlies energy is one.
It's indivisible. So there's something inside you and Neil and you Andrew that's looking
at me, okay, looking through your eyes, that's hearing through your ears.
Well, that conscious awareness there's also aware of your thought. It's the
same conscious awareness and suicide me just looking out of my eyes and hearing through
my ears. In other words, we are the one being in the many
bodies. And that is why we called human beings because hugh is the ancient
Egyptian word, one of the ancient Egyptian words for the divinyl for God consciousness.
So we are the human beings. We are the expression of that consciousness
in the whole of humanity. And why is that consciousness here? Because the
consciousness is growing, is learning, is growing in wisdom through its creation.
And there's no better opportunity to learn if you're God then to be a human
being on planet Earth. I would go with that. I don't know if
you've heard of Neil Donald Walsh I have. I love him. I love
Yeah. This is very much his his kind of line of channeling with God's
in quotation mark with conversation with God. Also those set of books by Jane
Roberts also has a parallel to that, and that's the kind of book that
I go for for that. What's exciting is that is that I can actually
give that foundation to what Neil Donald Walsh is saying, and that these other
people are saying what you're experiencing the mediums through physics, through a new approach
to physics. So we're going to sweep away the whole of the materialistic physics,
knock it for six and replace it with this vortex physics. You see,
when I was sixteen, I wrote read a book on the ogic philosophers,
and the Yogis in ancient India had used their city powers to shrink their
consciousness commensurate with the small and they actually took themselves into the smallest realms of
the atom, and what they saw was spin. So they came out with
this idea of the vortex, and that vortex idea was applied by nine century
physicists like Lord Calvin and all the great luminaries of the nineteenth century into a
vortex atom theory, which was an all British theory. But what happened is
this, as new discoveries about the atom came in. The vortex theory couldn't
explain them, and it was ditched. And then the problems that the vortex
theory couldn't be explained was explained by a bunch of Europeans based in Copenhagen.
And there you know, Heisenberg was one of them. Niels Bohr was one
of them. He was the leader of this group of people schroding it and
poured it up. Anyway, barely got together at the Copenhagen Institute of Theoretical
Physics, and they concocted, they cobbled together are completely new theoretical physics called
quantum mechanics. And Einstein despised it. He said, it's a real which
is calculus, so ingenious in its complexity as to be impossible to prove wrong.
But what happened is that ten years later in Britain, and new particle
was discovered called a neutron. And this neutron, which is the detonator of
the of the hydrogen bomb, detonator of the atomic bomb. Okay, this
neutron disprieves the uncertainty principle of erne Heisenberg. And what they've done is they've
covered it up they've ignored the evidence, which is like a mortal sin in
science. Yeah, so I'm the whistleblower. I'm coming out with the evidence
and putting Einstein Wright and saying Einstein was right and Heisenberg was wrong. And
basically what it is is what they should have done, is they should have
when they discovered sub atomic particles, they should have applied the vortex idea to
sub atomic particles because it really works. So in my new book was Einstein
Wright and you Know, which is a collection of essays, I've written ten
essays, which is up on substack. So anyone who wants to read the
essays before they're published, it doesn't cost you anything. You just go to
substack and it's David Ash three three three on substack. Just look me up.
Go in there and you subscribe and you can get and you can for
free and you can get read these essays. And what I do in these
essays, I just go through the whole of the physics and rebuild the whole
of the physics around this idea that the smallest particle of matter whirlpools of light.
Now, I'm not going to go into the physics tonight because we're dealing
with a psychic peep show. What I want to do is not to focus
on the quantum vortex tonight, but focus on the super energy, because with
the book it is super energy, and the quantum vortex in the front of
this book is the front of this book is all about the super energy.
Now, so apparently I've got to do a book signing at WH Smith and
a sometimes, so I think it's going to be stopped by W. H.
Smith. Certainly if you go to Waterstones you can order it. There
are a few supplied problems, but you can certainly get it on Amazon.
And the thing is that what I'm showing is that how is it that this
world we're living in that seems so real and solid and concrete, how can
it be formed out of thought forms? Well, energy is more like a
thought than a thing, and it's like a string theory. What happens is
that the energy is represented by this line. When the energy moves like so,
it's light. And the Yogis said that light is just a denser level
of mind, a denser level of thought. See, so they knew that
the nature of our reality is thought. The Aboriginal needs got it right when
they said that we're living in a dream stone. This is a dream reality.
Bit will in. But what so this is for you, like my
work is a string theory if you want to know the genre in physics.
But in physics they talk about vibration. They cannot get their heads away from
vibration. They this is the great mistake in physics. They tried to explain
the whole universe in terms of the waveform. The reason is that physics is
dominated by men. And it says in the Talmud, we see the world
not the way it is, but the way we are. And so men
project the masculine principle on the universe, which is the waveform. It's like
the sperm you see. And the Native Americans said that a light is masculine
lucifer. You see the light bearer. And they've complete the sideline, completely
ignored mate and mother, the feminine form of energy, and this is it.
It's like the old them. It's spherical, it's receptive. And the
word matter comes from nata, meaning mother in the latter in. So what
I'm doing is I'm bringing in the female form of physics, a feminine form
of energy, which is this whirlpool you see The idea is that the energy
spins. So I'm bringing in a spinning string theory instead of a vibrating string
theory. I'm saying that two forms of energy. One is the wave and
one is the vortex. You see. And the reason you get this wave
particle duality, which is why they all think they're waves, is because the
wave drives into the vortex and pushes it forward in wave motion like a tadpole.
So the thing is that the universe is set up by this spin form
of energy, and the spin it sets up inertia, it sets up resistance.
You know, when you spin a pebble on the pond, it skips
across the pond because it's it's that the spin keeps the pebble in the plane.
You'd stabilize a ship with the gyroscopeia. Well, the spin in every
direction resists movement in any direction, so inertia, static inertia is set up
by the vortex. Richard Faman said, the laws of inertia have no known
origin, and I've just explained it in two minutes, so I can explain
things in physics which I can't explain. See, So I asked, thinking
that for something like let's just take light light for instance, and you've got
photons. So the photon is the if you like, the physical bit,
but what's unknown is what's actually causing that physical bit to move, and that
would be the thought, that's the thought that you've got it. The photon
is a waveform of energy, and nobody knows why a wave And it's like
with me, why the vortex. Well, it's like the universe is only
thirteen and a half billion years old. These the electron has been around for
ten to the twenty two years, which is trillions upon trillions of years.
Ten to the thirty three years. The proton is their estimated lifespan. So
basically, if you imagine there's a god in eternity, what was God doing
before the universe? Just thinking up worldpools and waves, just imagining wirldpools and
waves, and then eventually so stuff full, This great mind was stuff full,
just the gig whirlly gigs and wavy gigs, the whole lot. Exploded
it out and that's the big bang into the universe, and everything's just been
reacting and interacting, and the consciousness has been behind it or just observing all
the ways, all these waves and vortities have been working together, and you
know, this is the whole process of evolution behind the scenes, but there's
this conscious awareness behind it, learning, growing, and we're all part of
that life need protest. We're just pacing this whole explosion since the big bang
of you know, we've come up from microbes, from bacteria, you know,
from plants, through animals and now we're these human beings and there's so
much has gone in to the formation of us human beings. But I mean
the divine it's having such an adventure being human beings. I mean that things
that spirit can do in a human body that just blows, you know,
just beyond anything that could ever be imagined. So it's a wonderful, wonderful
opportunity to be alive, especially at this time. So the question is is
there another stage beyond human? Absolutely there is which would be So let's explain
it to you here now because I get distracted, mine choose yas the speed
and the energy. The thing about these these waves and vorticies is there's nothing
there. So there are bits of speed with a shape. So the shape
is either a waver of ortex. So we're now going to talk about the
speed. The speed of the energy that makes up our world is the speed
of light. Now, in physics, they've shown that you can't move a
particle faster than the speed of light. All right, well, of course
you can't. If the particle is formed out of a bit of movement at
the speed of light, you can't move it faster than the speed that makes
it. But that doesn't mean you can't have other levels, other worlds,
other levels of reality, other dimensions in which you have water, season waves,
the same laws of physics, but the underlying speed of motion is faster
than the speed of light. Now, if you read your Ancha book,
the next level out is twice the speed of light. The next level out
beyond that is just sixteen times the speed of light. So you see,
use this physics simply by that little bit of logic, you'd realize there could
be other worlds, and they're based on speeds faster than the speed of light.
As soon as we've got that watch, we get this, all right,
thanks to Ikia this little I used to use the nested Russian dolls,
but now I'm using this. This is the physical world all speeds between zero,
which you see is a little bit in the middle, and the speed
of light belong in the physical three dimensional world, okay, all speeds between
zero and twice the speed of light belong in the hyperphysical level of the universe,
okay, and all which is the fourth dimension, and all speeds between
zero and sixteen times the speed of light belong in the fifth dimension and beyond
okay, which I call the super physical. So this is super physical,
hyper physical and physical. Okay. Now, if you notice from this system,
this is the harmony of the spheres, folks. If you noticed in
this system, the lesser is part of the greater. Thirty miles an hour
is part of sixty miles an hour. You can get. You know,
a jet can go at walking speed, at the speed of your bicycle,
the speed of you car. But when you're on your bicycle, you can't
catch a jet. Okay. So that's the law that you know. If
we're in the lesser part, we're contained in the lesser part, but the
greater part is containing the lesser part. So what this means is there could
be beings all around us because our space time continuum is part of their reality,
is part of their world. Okay, they could be all around us,
but we wouldn't be aware of them because the speed of their energy is
moving so too fast. So the separation between us and these hyperthhysical and superphysical
beings would be speed. Now, isn't it interested in interesting? In ancient
times they said there are angels all around us, but we are not aware
of them. We can't see them because they're moving too fast. And also
they said they're fairies all around us, and we're not aware of them because
we're too slow and clumsy. So my battle cry is there's more reason to
believe in angels and fairies than in quarks and the virtual particles of quantum reality.
It's refreshing to other physicities talk about angels and fairies. Oh, it's
going to be so much fun because I'm going to smash up the whole of
their physics. I'm going to come in with this completely new physics that explains
everything with this simple little model. And then I start going on about angels
and fairies. And what I'm saying is the next PhD you've got to do
is on angels, wings and fairly rings. Do you think I can see
it? Imperial College are gonna love me. I mean We're gonna have so
much fun if you had Professor Richard Dawkins here, Oh, professor Incent Talkins,
Yes, let's get him into a debate. Yes, I'm nonsense.
It's just somebody's imagination. What your respons be to him? Oh girl,
we're gonna have fun. But anyway, Yes, So the thing is that
I noticed you've got some ET's behind you Andrew there. So what what it
is is that it's rather than move through through space time, you move in
and out of space time. What I'm predicting in my physics is that every
single sub atomic particle in your body is formed out of a little whirligig like
this, which is moving at the speed of light. Now, there is
a technology, it's called a super energy resonance technology. It's based on resonance.
But if I were to put a body made of these little vortices in
which the speed is the speed of light, into a beam of superphysical or
hyperphysical energy, then the little vortices, the speed within the vortices would resonate
with the speed of energy in the beam, and they would all accelerate to
the speed of the energy in the beam to s get equilibrium. See,
so the body would vanish out of physical space time and pop up in the
hyperphysical, superphysical world. Ladies and gentlemen, this is beam me up Scotty.
You know you saw Scotty going into the chamber and into the beam.
Well, this is basically foreseeing what's to come because I'm actually predicting this technology.
I used it to explain Cybarba phenomena and you know, used to explain
how people can appear and disappear. Oh go. And what the extra crestrials
are doing is this is that they are far in advance of us. They
know all about that. They don't bother waste their time with quantum mechanics and
uncertainty and stuff like that. They're already working with the votics technology, the
spiritual technology. And so what they do is that they use these resonance beams
to move their craft in and out of space time. And this is why
with uphos they appear and disappear, you know, the suddenly they're then and
then suddenly they're gone. So rather than moving through space time, they're moving
in and out of space time. And once we master this technology, will
have freedom of the universe. So this would answer the age old question that
lots of people skeptics particularly, whereas people like myself and Andy just accept that
well, they can get from there to hear, but with some superb technology,
Whereas the skeptics saying, and I know such things the UFO because it
it's impossible to go beyond the speed of light, so therefore there can't be
you of those, whereas we obviously know there's so much data out there for
UFOs. So so basically you've kind of honed in on an aspect that is
long being interested in, which is about how these UFOs get from there to
here. That's right, what an interesting Sorry I was going to say,
we also got an interest in life after death on Andy, and I kind
of think that the spirit world for whatever better word, utilizes or has awareness
of this procedure, this natural phenomena. You're like, this natural ability to
move between worlds because they obviously do it. They you know, and can
appear in our well and higher realms or whatever you want to call it.
And the aliens or ET's have got that as well. Would you would you
agree with that that the both o, Yes, there's that parate medians actually
using the same kind of thing. Yes, what what? What I'll do
is answer the first thing, how we deal with the skeptics. You know.
Yeah, what I'm doing is I'm now reorganizing myself. I'm going to
launch the first book bes Einstein Wright, and the first thing I do is
not the ground from under the skeptics feet by rubbishing everything they believe in.
If I can knock out quantum mechanics, quiet theory, every single theory and
physics and and and point out that it's a complete waste of time and money
these particle accelerators, and really just show that these PhDs have got a clue
about anything. Then when they come up and they say to me, oh,
you know, we don't believe in that, I say to them,
all, look before you challenge my theory, you explain to me, you
know how the neutron fits into the Heisenberg uncertainty principles. So by dealing by
coming in with the theoretical physics, it gives us a very strong hand.
Now, the next thing is near death experience, as you mentioned, and
life after death. My book on super energy begins with the research much of
that's going on into near death experiences, and there's an amazing chap called Sampagnier
in New York who's managed to get a paper into the New York and the
annals of the New York Academy of Science. And this paper came out signed
by eighteen academics from all over the world four days before Putin and invaded Ukraine
on the eighteenth of February in twenty twenty two. And basically what they said
is they've got incontrovertible evidence for the reality of near death experiences. And the
fact that that paper's been published in a scientific journal, reputable scientific journal,
means that near death experiences and out of body experiences have come into the body
of science. We can treat them scientifically. See. So what I do
is I explain that what we're doing is we growing two bodies simultaneously. We're
growing a body in physical energy, which is the body we're looking at,
but this is just a vehicle. And at the same time we're growing a
body in a hyperphysical or soul energy. The hyperphysical is the soul level.
We go back to here. The physical, which is the third dimension,
is the body level. Then the next level out, the hyperphysical, is
the level of the soul, and the third level out is the level of
the spirit. Okay, so physical, hyper physical, superphysical body, soul
and spirit. Okay, how would you differentiate between soul and spirit? Basically
on the intrinsic speed of the energy. And also there are other facts,
and there's another type of matical plasma, which is non atomic matter, and
spirit is much more in the nature of fields. And the thing is that
ninety eight percent, ninety nine percent of the universe is formed of plasma,
mainly in stars. The atomic matter that we're in is extremely rare. So
the thing is that spirits are formed of out of a completely different type of
matters, matter that's organized into fields rather than organized into atoms. The particles
of there, the electrons and the protons, but they're they're not informs that
we're familiar with. But what's happened is that these fields, this is the
life field, is organizing the two bodies simultaneously. The hyperphysical, which is
this soul level, is atomic matter. The super physical so that's the sole
level is atomic matter. The physical level is atomic matter, but the superphysical
level is non atomic matter or plasma. Okay. Now, the thing is
that the field life field, the plasma field, overshadows the little Zygote at
the beginning, at the time of conception, you know where the sperm goes
into the ovum. And at the same time that whatever's happening in the three
to third dimensional world is happening in the fourth dimension. So we're forming a
soul body in parallel to the physical body, the third dimensional body, and
they're growing simultaneously, and there's resonance between the soul body and the physical body
through the DNA molecule. The DNA molecular is a coil. It's just like
a coil and a radio set or a television set. So I've got this
whole section in my work in the book on super energy called DNA resonance,
which explains the way that the soul body resonates through the physical body. So
the thing is that the mind, the cognitive faculties are held in the soul
body, in the hyper physical body, not in the physical body. It's
like the physical body is just the vehicle for the soul to come into,
for the soul body to come into, and then so what happens the death
of the physical body. It's no different to simply shreddy shedding, a snake
shedding its skin it's simply the the you know, we step out of the
car, the car is scrapped, and the soul body goes on. And
the soul body is identical to the physical body. Which is why people when
they pass over, they're greeted by their grandmother. She's recognizable because she's got
a body. It's identical to the body she had when she was physically here.
I mean, this is I call it the two body dilemma. When
people have an outer body experience, they're inner body looking down at their body,
and they're confused. So we need this physic so people are prepared for
the passage on. People need to know that their eternal beings, that they
death is just like shedding the skin. It's just like taking off an overcoat.
It's just like stepping out of the motor car, you know. And
there's so much there's so much learning that needs to be done. There's such
a desperate need for this physics. We've just got to get out there and
clear the crap of contemporary science. I mean, there's so much hogwash,
there is so much stupidity. You describe the belief in materialism in your quite
a lot that yea is a materialism, that's right, which is completely h
you know, Einstein disagrete materialism. You know, Einstein's difficult to understand,
not because of his maths or his theorist but because of his worldview. He
said that matter and light are real, but there's no substance to them.
And so the thing is that materialism is the idea. With materialism, it's
such a simple idea, and that is that the idea of materialism is the
particle of material substance, call it an atom or a quark, exists and
moves. And Einstein said no. Einstein said E equals mc squared. M
is the material that stands for mass and material. And the thing that comes
first is e the energy, and the energy is linked to mass and material
by sea, which is a speed of light. In other words, you
know, mass is not a material substance. It's a vortex. It's spinning
light. You get the light and you make it spin, and that's how
you get the mass. This is this shows you're presially equals empty squared equals
empty squared says there's vast amounts of energy in minute amounts of matter and the
hydrogen bomb, I mean that are vast amounts of wool in one tiny little
ball. You see, it's a very compact form of wool, very compact
form of energy. So all these mysteries are revealed. I mean, look
in my book, in my in my essays. In this book. Here
I can explain nuclear energy in one paragraph. Richard Feynman. Richard Feyman,
one of the greatest physicists of the twentieth century, said this. He said,
nuclear energy. We have the formulas for that, but not the fundamental
understanding. We know it's not gravitational, we know it's not chemical. We
know it's not electrisical. They're electrical, but we don't know what it is.
And I've explained it with the vortex theory in one paragraph. Isn't it?
Isn't there a thing of Traditionally the dangerous type of nuclear energy is fishing.
But they've just about cracked fusion. That's correct. It's much safer,
yup, and you don't use it. Well, you do use it in
the bomb, you use it in the hydrogen bomb, but it's almost like
you know, Einstein said his greatest mistake was to send that letter to Roosevelt,
which kicked off the Manhattan Project, which kicked off the development of nuclear
weapons because they thought that an the Nazis may develop the bomb. But then,
as it turned out, the Nazis had kicked out all the Jewish physicists,
so they couldn't They didn't have the brain power to make a bomb.
But anyway, I don't think there was a mistake. I think we human
beings have had to have the option, the opportunity to exterminate ourselves. We
have a choice, free choice. We've got to be given that choice.
Are we gonna destroy ourselves completely? Or are we going to learn about love?
Are we going to learn about forgiveness? Are we going to you know,
sort ourselves out? And so I think it's very exciting that we're living
on the knife edge. You know, will will they or will they not
push the button anymore? I tell you what. It makes it a thriller
because you see, if this is a dream, you know, and if
we are the supreme consciousness in our physical bodies, you know that little chant
nam Getko it simply says that we are in the universe, but the universe
is in us. You know, every thing is in us, the source
consciousnesses on us. So we are the actors were the theater production with the
audience, with the director, the producer of this amazing show called Human Human
Life. Okay, and we and the ticket to the theater is a body.
You've got to take on a body and you enter this three D virtual
reality. It's like, if you think of the way it's going, it's
going this way, isn't it? With AI and what have you. So
we step into these little bodies and we we come into this we come into
this show. And now we're coming right to the end of the show,
and it's really getting a thriller. Are we going to blow ourselves to the
gum ar? Are we not? You know? Oh that people like I
mean they're talking about people like Biden's got his finger on the button, but
I'm more afraid that he might nod off on the button. I love it.
I love it. I love it. There's a So there's a thing
with ghosts that I've always been fascinated with. With many people that have seen
spirits and things like that, they always described them standing in doorways or windows
or frames of some sort. And I met a lady many many many years
ago in the early nineties, and she described that she wasn't a spiritualist or
anything like that, and she had no experience of ghosts or spirits except on
this particularcation that she happened to tell me. She says, I told my
doctor and he thought he laughed at me, basically, she said. But
she said that she was helping her husband who was very, very ill,
and she was straight in his pillows one day, and he was so we
had to breathe through an oxygen mask. And one day she was straight in
his potron as he lay ell in bed and he just said, I want
to die. I want to dine in and he said with that he literally
just died in her arms, and she laid him back down. She said
she saw this vaporous mist come out of his chest and it rose up towards
the sea and went across the ceiling and went into the airing cupboard in the
corner of the bedroom. And then she said six months later she'd wake up
in the middle of the night. Something prompted her to wake up, and
she says she saw and this is the words she used, coming from her
generation, I suppose, she said, a red Indian. Now today we
call it Native American, nor what everyone wore it. But she said,
a red Indian coming out of the cupboard. And he was doing this,
and said if he was trying to claw his way out the airing cupboard.
But she could only come from the chest upwards, but she could clearly see
his feathered headdress, his war paint, and even a bow necklace he had
on. And she said she thought she saw two people behind him that he
was leading through the cupboard. And she said it didn't happen just once,
it happened like many times, many nights, it was happening. And she
goes, what do you think's happening now? I said to hers, said,
I suspect that your husband's soul was the myst that you saw coming out
of his chest went into the air, and he went into the air and
cupboard. I said, And I think the your airing cupboard is like a
revolving doorway in a hotel lobby. You can go in it, but you
can come out of it. And I said, no, I think your
husband's trying to come back with this spirit guy. She had no idea what
spirit guy, as were all Native American spirit guys, yet she clearly described
one. And so I said, I suspect the man that was in the
shadows behind this Native American gentleman was possibly our husband, and he was bringing
him back rather as a bus driver would bring him back to town. And
he was leading him through this cupboard, but he could only come through so
far. Presumably it was difficult for whatever reason. And I've become fascinated with
the idea of doorways and window frames and things like that acting as a kind
of portal world time thing. The word I was to come popped into my
head. Portals definitely. Yeah, So what do you think of that?
Then? Really fascinating, really fascinating, because what we're seeing, you,
First of all, we've got the she's seen the myst which is the uh,
the hyper physical soul body leaving the physical body and rising up. And
a lot of people when they they when they go through the mere death experience,
they rise up this and they look down on their bodies. See,
so her husband would have been there in his hyper physical body looking down from
the you know, from the heights. And it's interesting this whole thing of
going into the airing cupboard and just disappearing through a portal. There's obviously a
portal in that airing cupboard whereabouts was she living. She was living in the
town of Great Mistingdon in Buckinghamshire. So yeah, that that that's that's it's
a part of this cut. Yeah, it's it. There's obviously, for
some reason or other, there's some sort of portal. It's a bit like
the Narnia stories, you know of the portal in the back of the wardrobe.
It's the same sort of thing, you know that. Uh, it
could that because he went through the airing compan he created the portal as he
went through. Yeah, yeah, you know, it could be he haunts
that portal in the sense that because you move out of the physical time,
the time we move into is a hyper physical time, and so the passage
of time on the physical plane has no bearing on the passage of time and
the hyper physical So the point is that, you know, years could pass
down here, but for him it could be just well, he's still where
he ended up in the airing cup. But then it could be that a
husband is almost like acting as a portal. He's holding the door open,
if you see what I mean, so that these other spirits can come through.
How many air we are Neil, Yeah, I spent they're very dry
by right now. Well, you see, this is the thing that leads
me to physical salences. Where these mediums like the Great Helen Duncan and other
I know, you know these cabinets, you know, these materialization cabinets.
They would go and see sit in there, fall asleep for all intents and
purposes. Then her guide Albert would come out the cupboard of the air and
cupboard. Sorry that the physical salance cupboard, but rather like an air and
cupboard. And so I suspect that the air in cupboard was acting in a
similar fashion to the salance cabinet procedure. Where my theory, and of course
I'm not a physicist, but I kind of just built up this idea in
the same way that the spirit builds up a physical form inside the materialization cabinet.
I said to a medium, I says, why do you need these
cabinets? He said, it helps contain the energy. So I kind of
theorized that maybe as this energy forms, it is contained within this cupboard structure
as it bounces around or does what it has to do, and when it's
solidified, it's rather like opening an up anothern door. You take in a
liquid cake mix and at the right temperature it's now reached the shape and desired
state that it needs to be a solid structure of a cake. And you
open the oven door and you bring it out the oven. And in the
same way that these spiritual beings did, they formed themselves into solid beings and
they come out the sales cabinet. And I suspect that in a sort of
similar fashion that the airing cupboard was a kind of an invertantary. The ship
didn't of the home rather like state where many nostria strange. Note, you
flashed off and flashed on again. That's the spirit for you. So I
suspect that the Native American Indian came out the cupboard rather than like a spirit
would do in a sance. Maybe not as a fully fledged physical being,
but something almost like that. Well, that don't know what happens. So
that is an issue of vector plasm which Helen Duncan worked with. Now again
we need to go back to the water. There's enough another aspect to this
technology, the resonance technology, and this is what's and how Jesus fed the
five thousand. Okay, you can beam super energy, which is energy beyond
the speed of light, which is either hyper physical or superphysical, but it's
it's the twice the speed of light energy. It is the hyper physical.
But I use the word super energy for generic for all energy beyond the speed
of light. What you can do is you can be super energy through an
atomic matrix, in other words, through the shape of the vortex. And
what happens is that the super energy condenses through the shape of the vortex and
takes on that shape. So what happens is that with Jesus when he called
on the loaves and the fishes, he put his hands over the loaves and
the fishes and he said his prayers. He was blessing. Well, actually
no, the hands were the anchor point through which the spirit world could come
into. It's like his hands were with the portal. And then when he
was praying, it was actually communicating with his hyperphysical super energy resonance operator.
But that's a bit of a mouthful, so we just call it the genie
for makes it a bit simpler. His spirit guide, you see the idea.
And what happened is that the spirit guide had like a laser beam and
they they beamed the super energy through the where Jesus was holding his hands over
the loaves, and the fishes, and they duplicated the loaves and the fishes
because all the super energy was condensing through the atomic matter to replicate the shape
of the atomic matter. And there were He fed five thousand people, and
there were twelve basketfuls of loaves and fishes left over at the end of the
meal. So it's the magic porridge pop miracle, you see. And so
farther does it. You can go on you two seaside barber pulling the booty
out of a jar, making great mountain of it. So again he's using
his hand as the anchor point. So going back to the portals and the
doorways, there's this thing called ectoplasma, which is like the precipitation of the
hyperphysical energy into into physical matters, rather like steam condensing, isn't it You
know, water vapor condensing into steam, which condenses into water which it settles
into ice. So what color would you say exoplasma is because it's very silvery
white, silvery white illuminus. It's slowing the silvery white. There's a wonderful
example of it. You can see photographs. I've got a photograph in my
book which is Zutin when Nery appeared in zutin To and she if I can
find it, she'd fill the hole of the night's sky and covered it.
Oh that's it. I've got it. I've got it. I've got it.
There we go. If you can see it, got it? Opened
it on the state line, you know, as you would do. I
know, spirits helping you. Can you see all the ectoplasm and the figure
of the mother. Millions I saw this on the BBC News of the nineteen
seventies. Millions of people saw this, you see, So in a way,
what happened for that Native American to manifest? You know, you get
the ectoplasm forming first, and then the form of the Native American forms in
the actor plasm. So it's much better to contain the ectoplasm in a space
with Helen Duncan you see the ectoplasm came out of her tummy and out of
her nostrils, and then other sort of swirling actor bathplasm formed the image of
this lovely girl. I tell the story in here, and the girl turns
up in the room and she and she has a rose that she gives to
what gives to her mother who's in the audience, And the mother sobbing.
She so moved and Doris Stokes was that was there in the seance. And
the girl offered her hand to Doris Stokes and said take my hand. And
she felt the hand and she thought it would be sort of a theory and
a misty and it wasn't. It was solid and it was warm. It
was a real living human hand. I mean, she's absolutely flabbergasted. So
you know, these are real materializations of atomic matter on physical matter. And
what you're doing is you're slowing down the speed of the energy. You're condensing
the speed of the energy through the waters, through the ectoplasm, through the
lobes and the fishes, through the booty ash, and you know, actually
creating the form in physical matter that you desire. I've got an anecdog,
David, that you might like. And she worked by me. I'm saying,
I won't name her, but it's a friend of mine, and you'll
find this is absolutely fascinating. And Neil, don't think I don't think you've
heard this one either. So there's a friend of mine and I won't name
her, but she has told this story and it's it's kind of tragic but
also quite heartwarming. At the same time, her fiance they were going to
get married, unfortunately passed away in a car accident. And this happened I
think it was last year, actually a while ago. She was absolutely devastated.
They were due to be married. They were kind of like he was
the love of her life and she was the love of his life. And
she was distraught, and for ages and ages, she was crying and couldn't
get to sleep, and was really kind of cut up about it. One
particular night, she says, and I will describe it as best as she
described to me. She and she has had I will say she has had
paranormal activity and ghostly things happen in her life. She says that one night
she was sobbing herself to sleep, basically thinking about her partner in the spirit
at that time, and she felt like a pressure on the bed, as
if somebody was sitting on the bed. She looked up, and this is
where it gets fascinating. She saw an image of him, of his face
and his body. But she said it looked like almost like a bad photo
copy. It was kind of it was black and white, and it was
definitely him, but it was almost like a bad photo copy. And then
she felt her hand being physically held, physically held by his hand, but
she felt it was very very cold. It was a very cold hand,
but it was solid. It wasn't kind of like a you know, like
an etheric kind of like mystic kind of like thing. It wasn't actual as
if somebody had a physical, solid hand. And she held this hand for
a while and that really calmed her down, and she said she needed that
and she really needed that kind of connection and and he I think what she
said was she she saw his face and he was smiling, and it seemed
like a strange kind of like black and white. She she described it as
almost two dimensional, two dimensional type face, and then it just faded,
and then the sensation of being held faded, and then she kind of drifted
off to sleep. And that that really has helped her. Obviously, she's
still very sad and she's very upset about it, but that almost kind of
like was him trying to let her know that she was okay. But the
fascinating parts are how how he manifested himself as as almost like a two D
photo copy, and then like with the hand as like a like a like
an ice cold kind of solid formation. Yeah, this is really fascinating because
you know what you're dealing with here is if it was Helen Duncan, who
was one of the greatest materialization mediums has ever been, he could more than
likely have manifested in a whole warm body and for her. But and obviously
it was like it sounds like a hologram, you know, that black and
white image. And so it's like working with the technology and doing the best
they could under the circumstances to get some sort of manifestation there through for her.
And it's like the best they could do in the way of the materialization
is the hand, which is what she really needed to hold, and they
couldn't get it like good enough to be warm. It's almost like and you
know these operators and that they're they're learning and they're working. You know,
it's almost it's such a dense it's so difficult to manifest into this physical world.
And also at this time when humanity that you know, the resonance is
so low, the frequencies are so low, humanity is so far away from
spirit. The world is so materialistic, so dense, it it's it's far
harder for these manifestations to occur than they would in a in a more ethereal
time. I think I think you're right. I think he was. I
think that's exactly what it was, because he was quite fresh into spirit,
he was, and and he's lost his physical body and what he looked like,
he was trying to do his best from his energetic perspective. That's it,
you started, Yeah, you go. He was probably helped as well
by the spirits. Oh yeah, and I'll buy the spirits very much so.
But it was it's more than likely a group of them together, and
you know, it was dust. They were kind of like fudging it and
trying to do their guests with wax and solitope, you know what I mean.
Just like a follow on for that. She actually had an odd experience
with me in the car with her fascinating one. So back in Halloween,
we have a tradition, myself and this friend of mine and sometimes other friends,
if you contract them, we go off to kind of like zombie scare
maizes. So you go to a scare maize, you get chased by zombies
and all that kind of thing, and we love kind of like the Halloween
shlock horror of it. Anyway, we were driving back. We were on
the M twenty five. She was driving, I was the passenger, and
she said something along along the lines of, oh, we're actually talking about
him, the fiance, and there's this car that was trying to cut her
up, and he's being a bit of a pain, and obviously he had
passed away. He actually passed away through a car accident. And she said
something along the lines of I'll let him go. You know, it's probably
best not to kind of like play up to that kind of thing, or
something like that. I'm paraphrasing. And she looked at me and she said,
did you just call me a good girl? And I said, no,
what are you talking about, because that's not the kind of thing I
would say. I wouldn't. I'm not the kind of person that would say
good girl. And she said, you know, as soon as I said
that about letting that guy go past me, I thought, you just said
good girl. And I said, no, I didn't say good girl.
She heard somebody a male voice saying good girl like that good girl. It
wasn't me. That's not my vernacular. I don't, you know, I
don't. I'm sure he didn't. The spirit didn't mean it in a patronizing
way. But I wouldn't say because I would deem it to be slightly patronizing,
you know, oh, good girl kind of thing. But he would
have said it in a way that's not patronizing. But it wasn't me that
said it. It's not my language in vernacular, but it was his.
It was the kind of thing that he would say. So I was in
the car when she experienced that, and I just looked at her, like,
what the hell are you talking about? But she heard it clearly,
very very clearly in the car. Yeah, it's so interesting because you see
he's there, that fiance of hers, in his soul body. Yeah,
and he can see her, he can touch her, he can feel that,
he can hug her because she's in his in his world, you know,
because the physical is part of is a subset of the hyperphysical. But
she can't see him. He can see her, and it's very frustrating for
him, and for him to try to get break back into the physical world
is incredibly difficult. But this is where new medium's come in, because you
know, the medium as a person who's kind of like bridges the world.
You've got psychic abilities, you're not completely condensed into this world. They're like
spiritual gifts. And so when she's in the car with you, Andrew,
because you're in the car, the veils are thinner, so he can reach
to her. He can sort of whisper in her ear. And I mean,
she's she needs to know that, you know, her time flies and
when he's there, he's just through the veil. She needs to know that
he's still alive, he's young, he's beautiful, and they're going to be
together very very soon. But in the meantime, while she she's stuck down
here and he's up there here, she can explore all this just like enjoying
it in a plateful sense, not in a not in an emotional sense.
If she can get away from the emotion and just treat it, well,
let's see if I can you know, just have a you know, if
he wants to reach her, if he's trying to sort of reach her,
then with the help of your medium, she can sort of just enjoy a
bit of interaction with him, and and and a little bit of banter and
some humor. And because it can help him as well, you know,
if she if she can just let go and have total faith that it's okay,
he's there and not be grieving too much. You know, that helps
him a lot, you see. I think it's definitely helped her. I
mean she's she's obviously, you know, sad about it, but she needed
that, she needed that connection and she got it. And that is a
that is a attitude actually is it is quite laid back, and she is
fantastic. She she does love banter and she does love humor. And yeah,
yeah, the more she can banter of them, that's the best thing,
you know. Yeah, I'll just say this before we come to the
break in a few minutes, just to take a short break, but I'll
just say talking to cars and spirits, I remember driving along again on the
M twenty five, but I was doing the driving. I was dropping a
friend of mine off at the house, and we was coming into the Uxbridge
area, not you know, about ten minutes away, and she's talking to
me and as she looked at me, she went, oh my god,
and took a deep breath, and I said, what she goes, I've
just seen someone but they're totally white, sit in the back seat, leaning
forward, putting their arms around me. Driving. But she couldn't see her
head, but for some reason she felt it was a male person. So
I was being hugged by spirit if you like. As I'm driving along,
well drops off and this was I was on the twenty five coming into towards
Uxbridge area. Yeah, you know, sort of getting waiting for the exit
to come off there, you know, around Heathrow or somewhere like that.
Yeah. So I don't know if this was spirit guide or someone that knew
me, but it kind of thought, oh god, it is my number
up or something, you know, because I'm in a car. So are
they kind of cut? Are they waiting in the car to take me over
or something? You know, But nothing obviously happened. That was like twelve
years ago. Yeah, just another ghost in the machine, as they say.
But yeah, so I think what we do would take a break now,
if that's all right for every hole, just take quickly. But before
I forget. Very often I get reports because I've got a group chat with
my readers. Very often if we've done a mediumship night and we'll go home,
a lot of my mediums will say, well, as I was driving
home, I saw a spirit at the side, and it was definitely spirit
because it kind of disappeared. I get that quite a lot, quite a
lot. Wow Wow, excellent. Stay tuned for part two. They the
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David. And David soon changed into a hat through the power of spirit materialization
to the other side. By the sound of it, Yeah, I think
string theory has got a bit too far and knitted in my hat. So
we've been talking about your book, David, and you've got a really good
chapter which I haven't actually got to yet, about the famous wartime medium Helen
Duncan. Why did you try to why did you choose to put her in
your book? Well, because she's one of the greatest materialization mediums on record,
and it's it's the way she used to work with ectoplasm that fits him
in my physics, you see, because you know, part of the work
I'm doing is using evidence from the supernatural and spiritual purer normal to substantiate that,
you know, that the claims the theory that I'm making about the you
know, about super energy. So Helen Duncan, the evidence that she brought
through is very important for the substantiation of my pieces that there are dimensions beyond
the speed of light, you see, that we can access. And and
she was treated most horrendously, most cruelly, and she still is by skeptics
getting onto the Wikipedia page, and you know, they really rubbish Helen Duncan
on that. So you believe which even spirit and all salted nonsense. I
mean, that's what I love. I love trashing them atism. I just
love trashing their quantum clinics. So it's all a great big lie, you
know, it's all it's all just phone. You know, that's where the
phony is. They want to look at themselves, these idiots and see how
phone all their stuff is. You know, they don't need to look at
someone like Alan Duncan. Duncan is dealing with the real stuff, well dad,
So yeah, she was put away under the one of the very archaic
old laws, which is one of the ones they managed to dig up.
Basically they needed to put away to the remainder of the war because basically,
for those that don't know, Alan Duncan was a Scottish medium who was a
materialization medium and during the World War Two she approperated all around the country,
but certainly to a degree a bird work was in Portsmouth, which is the
home of the British name, and she was bringing back dead sailors from various
sunken ships and they were materializing in the sales room and calling out the other
whoever was there to greet them, and they were saying, you know,
I've died on the HMS Hood or the HMS Bahanam or whatever the ship maybe
I can't remember now. And basically the word was getting around that you know,
these these ships were being sunk around the British Isles and they didn't want
people to know about it. Basically, the British Navy didn't want people to
know about it, so they adopted so I believe this this mock kind of
trial again, so that these fortune charges. She was arrested and tried as
a witch, which is an old seventeen hundreds kind of law, being accused
of witch craft, and they managed to bring up enough dodgy characters to slay
her down and put her away for something like nine months, which was for
the because they wanted their D Day battle plans to be kept secret and they
were afraid that she might release those plans somehow through the mediumship. I think
genuine foreigner, I think for memory that actually thought she might be a German
spy because the establishment didn't believe in the spooky wubu, so they thought,
where is she getting this information from? Was there some kind of you know,
collaboration with the naswers going oh well, I find that quite comforting actually,
because yeah, I think if her incarceration was linked to the war and
linked to security in regard to the war, and in a sense in wartime,
it's justifiable. You know, if you've got any suspicion about anyone,
even if you don't really understand the more cope with what's going on, you
just bang them away for the duration of the war. So it can look
as that's what was going on, Is that more than a malicious attack on
her as a medium? And I believe the witchcraft acting question was repealed in
something like nineteen fifty one, nineteen fifty two, that kind of like that
that spurred on the spiritualist movement, certainly in Britain. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, they realized they had to get rid of that, repeal that act
pretty cuccause someone else will be digging exactly. Yeah. Well, they're replaced
it with a Fraudulent Medium Act, which is an interesting activist So by calling
it the fraudulent medium it means that you can get tried for being through a
fraudulent mediumship. So that suggests then that if you're you're you're done. Fraudulent
mediumship. They're actually without actually saying there must have been agreed to be seen,
that there must be a genuine mediumship. Otherwise why would they try you
against fraudulent mediumship? You see? And so the establishment kind of accepted it
in quotes, but they don't really want to face it, which I'll do
in drastic Yeah. Yeah, Well I think that there's a game the game
Changers and the death experiences, because you know, people are coming back from
the dead by the million now, and it's prophesied in the Bible, isn't
it in the end times people be rising from the grave. Well, you
know, they didn't see exactly how it's going to happen, but you know,
if people being brought back from the dead by resuscitation techniques, isn't it
what is so On the one hand, you know, we talked about the
dark the shadow side of medicine, you know, and what goes on with
the big pharmaceutical companies and that. But on the other hand, there's this
other side of medicine where they're developing resuscitation techniques and are really proving through resuscitation
life after death. So I mean, it's and the reality of the spiritual
realms and we go somewhere and we meet our grandmothers. And the other thing
it's so embarrassing for them is that the figure that is behind these near death
experiences more than anything else is JC Jesus, And I mean that is a
really really big source of embarrassment when they try to study it scientifically. But
it seems as though he's working miracles and they're people who are surviving death and
coming back he really shouldn't. I mean, there's one story of a guy
where he was rock climbing and there was a rock fall and a great big
rock fell on his chest and they managed to get this rock off him,
you know, when eventually they found him and his whole chest was caved in,
all his vital organs, his hard everything crushed, and they managed to
get him back, particular the hospital. He made a miraculous recovery and they're
all saying, how the hell did he do that? Well, when he
was on the other side, he bet Jesus, and Jesus said, well,
you can go back if you want. You know, you've got the
choice. And said, yeah, well I think I would like to go
back because I've got my little boy, you know, got their family.
He said, okay, well you can go back. I'll look after you.
And Jesus does one of the zeving miracles on this guy's body. He
steps back into it. You know, I mean, the whole thing is
outrageous. It just it's just it's just so such a joy. What's going
on in the world at the moment in this sphere to be a well,
I tell it will be interesting if this near death experience happened with somebody who
was Buddhist, would it be Buddha that heals them? And if they were
Jewish, would it be Moses that healed them? And if they were Islamic
would it would it be Mohammad that healed them? That's that's an imading.
Yeah, it's very I think they're finding that that there is a pattern where
where when people are atheists or when they come from the Christian background, if
they've got any openness to jo c he's there. But when people are you
know, when they're as you said, Buddhist or Muslim or something like that,
yes, it tends to be more in their culture, the experiences they
have. You know, he doesn't encroach on them if they don't have that
belief in that openness to him. Now, I read a very interesting Seth
book of Seth the Spirit Channel by Jane Roberts in the sixties and the seventies.
She'd go out in nineteen eighty four. But his stuff is very almost
bordering on the physics kind of stuff. He would talk about coordination points and
faster than like particles and all sorts of things like that. But one of
the things he said was that he acted did as a crossover guide. I
suppose the word would be was that when some crossed over to the other side,
he would act like the intermediately that they'd introduced them to the new realm
and help them through their change. And he said that you'd have to work
through the beliefs of the person for them to understand it. So he said
he took on the guise of Jesus and his fence spirit guide took on the
guys of Mohammad, because he said, the guy that was passing away this
is in the Middle Ages. Apparently they put hot coals in his mouth.
The Turks put hot coals in this guy's mouth, and he died, which
is a very nasty way to go. But when he came over the other
side, apparently he secretly harbored the uh. He believed in Mohammed, but
somehow thought that Jesus was the more powerful prophet. He never told anyone that,
but this was his secret belief to himself. So what seth and this
friend did? These spirit guys decided to hatch a little plot to try and
play out his belief in front of him, and they actually got on clouds
a bit like monkey, you know. One was coming in on one cloud
and the other one was coming in another cloud. And it sounds completely fantasy
sort of stuff, but they did it to play out this role for him,
and he said they'd both be firing lightning bolts. So Jesus was firing
lightning bolts at Mohammed and lightning bolts were coming out of Muhammed's hands and firing
them at Jesus. Eventually the clouds came together and they both stepped onto one
cloud and then came down the bloat and said that we're both the same people,
or we're all love here or something like that. And the guy I
kind of accepted it, but they had to work through his belief system.
So he was met by Jesus and Mohammad, but in fact they weren't either
of them in reality. And that's what would bring me to the question when
you said about Jesus meeting the guy on the other side of the rock clabe,
because I was wondering that if there's so many people dying around the world,
you know, neither people die in every second. I presume that Jesus
maybe can appear at every point to these people all at the same time,
or is he multi personable. We talked about mighty multi dimensional. Can he
split his personality or solar to pierce all these people or is it other spirit
guys mascuerade in as Jesus for the help of it. Well, in other
perhaps they're both really in the sense that it is a team of them that
are working, and they're all they're all working and harmed a bit like you
know, Mohammad and Jesus shooting the bolts and saying, we're all the same,
We're all the one love. But when you read the Keys of Emoch,
you realize that descended masters, like yes, sure, in this ended
state can manifest like it's it's a bit like bilocation, but they can manifest
in a million bodies simultaneously. They can be conscious in a million places simultaneously.
There's no limit to their sort of manifestations. So this enables, yeah,
sure to be there for everyone individually simultaneously. And I mean, I
I can begin, I can explain it, I can begin to The analogy
I use is rather like a television set. You've got the same broadcast,
but it's going through a million television sets. You know how work broadcast signals,
So it's something a bit like that, except that it personalizes so that
it's the same program, but it's a different show for each person. It's
something you know, it's it's the way that it's it's like a superior technology
to anything we've got on the beab as it were. Yeah, yeah,
Well, each person on their Internet as their own Internet signature. They're all
their own personal idea. They could identify person's computer being this location, so
it'll be watching YouTube, but they can see individually who's watching YouTube, and
they'll tailor those adverts that are playing on YouTube to suit the tastes of the
person. And you know that they target people with adverts about dog food or
something. They get dog and there's a spirit world. They're doing the same
sort of thing. The people we're sing with their Yeah, it's very much.
They're just advance of us with the technology, and we're seeing how advanced
AI can be. Well, you know, add that on a million times
and you see where these guys were. They've been, they've been working for
millions of years. You know that they're very advanced civilizations. But it's interesting
what you were saying, like Seth saying that he manifested to Jesus I'm sure
that happens quite a lot, because you know, a lot of these manifestations
of Jesus that they don't quite seem quite like him, but they you know,
I can I just really feel intuituitively, yes, that that there are
other spirits that manifest as as you sure, m hm hmmmm. They're poor,
poor irritations, but they're still doing a good job. Att yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So with your physics, so have you
actually spoken to other physicists and major discussions with them and how is it ended
badly for you? Well, it's kind of like my work has been reviewed
over the years, and whenever I've had criticism, I've always welcomed it because
it's enabled me to tighten the work up because the critics show that the faults
you see with me, I don't need answers, I need questions because the
answers are given to me from spirit world, and they just they need me
to ask the most appropriate question and the answer just pops into my head.
So I'm very grateful for people who who you know, the professors and physicists
to challenge my work because they've found a fault, and then I've only got
to sort of go away with that fault and suddenly the answer comes through and
I go back and correct it. She's so it's quite an extraordinary process.
But yes, it's the last person to read it was a professor of nuclear
physics at Oxford University and she found one fault in my work and I corrected
it. So, I mean, I've just sent the new book. I
think is you know, my trouble is that I'm so into the psychic,
in the spiritual. My real interest is I'm not the physics, but is
the supernatural stuff. I mean, give me Helen Duncan or you know,
active plasm and all that sort of stuff. It's meat and potatoes to me.
But I have to do the physics. So I'm really focusing at the
moment. I'm getting the physics really right and in a book, just the
physics and linking it to Einstein so that that work is available mainstream and then
I can bring in the super energy on the back of it once it's established.
And so I've got a professor of theoretical physics in India at the moment,
called Professor Harry Dust and I've sent him the first essay today. And
I've just had to reply from him. He's going to be reviewing it,
reading it, so it's beginning. You know, there are a number of
physicists reading my essays and they're loving it. So I think I'm on the
right track with what I'm doing at the moment. You know, if I
get knocked off and if I get people able to rubbish me, it's my
fault. It's because I haven't done my work properly. I you know,
I need a wrap across the knuckles. So whenever people rubbish me, I'm
always very grateful, even if it's Professor Stephens, Professor Dawkins. I know
I'd love to have a discussion with him with great fun. Yeah you might,
I've obviously, Yeah, that'd be great. I'd love to see that.
Wow, I think I'll pay for front rat seats on that one.
Now, we spoke about Helen Duncan and she was a threat to the establishment.
Now, in the book that I've just written, which is not out
yet, we'll be out in no it's called True Details of the Paranormal,
I discussed Helen Duncan. Now in my original draft, I've had to kind
of tone it down a bit, but I wrote about how I considered that
she was a threat to World War II society in that sort of warmongering sort
of state that they were. But I wonder if the whole life after their
thing is a threat today to the materialist society that we're in, because they
seem to be aware of it, but they don't really want to welcome it's
center stay, so to speak, because I think it's a threat to the
way things are, you know. I mean, if you could bring back,
for instance, Dr David Kelly, the weapons inspector, committed suicide in
quotes when they were doing the inquiry into various things about the web mass destruction,
and he was the guy that said, no, there's no weapons of
mass destruction. You got it all wrong. And he suddenly disappeared or committed
suicide out on one of his country walks or something. Now, I imagine
if they could bring him back through a medium like Helen Duncan and he said,
actually I was bummed off by a HI five or to something of that
order. They wouldn't really want that broadcast about, I don't think, and
so I long expect that there's kind of they don't want this kind of thing
known about in the in the mainstream. They don't want the average Joel on
the street to know that there's life after death. That rather, you think
it's a lot of or blownely because it keeps them in their castles. As
such, what do you think to that there's a lot in that. You
know, the people that are controlled in the world really don't want human beings
free and in touch with spirit and out of control. They want us to
be zombies, They want us to be half dead and just you know,
consumer slaves. So you know, there is a big vested interest in keeping
the raps on spiritual psychic phenomena. So and of course they they're very happy
with religions because religions just are not really in touch with the true spiritual reality.
They're just they're just power trips, you know. But yeah, I
think the New Age movement is a real threat to the establishment. If they
could get rid of it, they would. But there's no central focus.
Everyone's doing their own thing. And one thing that's really empowered us all is
the Internet. I mean, it's the fact that we can do our own
television shows and people have got the choice. They can go on YouTube,
but they can I they can either listen to this show, or they can
turn on the beeB and see more of the old rubbish their churn. So
it's up to people what they what they want to watch. But there's there
is the choice, there is the opportunity. And in my book you know
this this book here, what I explain is that this planet is the womb
of angels. This to Academy of Angels, that actually we're all baby angels,
where angels and the making. Some of us are pretty advanced angels and
they're here to sort of go through you know, an upgrade as it were,
through a human experience. But basically the whole of human life is very
much orientated around angelic development. And the point is that, you know,
you've got to have duality. You've got to have the baddies, you've got
to have the test. You know, you've got to put the dross through
fire to bring out the gold. So we have to love our enemies.
We have to really appreciate the people who are making life difficult for us on
the spiritual path because they're really giving us a chance to work the ants antagonistic
muscle, if you see what I mean. We we strengthen our spiritual muscles
and That's why we have to love them, you know when it's like when
people criticize me and my physics, I have to love them because they're serving
me. They're helping show where I need to patch it up. Well,
it's the same with you know when and when when you know, the harder
they make it, the the the higher we we we we make it.
There's an electrical component called a capacitor. And this analogy came from Ashtar.
Actually came through me, but it was written in an ashtarme channeling. I
do a bit of channeling myself. And what it is is this planet is
like a capacitor, and a capacitor works on a positive plate and a negative
plate with a non conductor in between. So what we have on this planet
is we've got the good and we've got the evil and then plut up against
each other. So you put these two plates close together, but they don't
quite touch, okay, And then what you do is you increase the resistance
of the of the negative of the of the negative side. So you increase
that resistance, and what it means is the voltage goes up because the positive
has to overcome the resistance. So you increase the resistance a bit more.
So the voltage has to go up a bit more, and then you increase
it a bit more. And that's what's happening. They're working it. So
they're increasing the baddies, they're increasing the evil, they're increasing the shadow to
increase the spiritual voltage of humanity, so that when eventually the conclusion point comes,
it's going to be the biggest spar the biggest spiritual discharge this universe has
ever known. So bring them on, bring on the baddies, and the
other thing, the other thing. And I spoke of the analogy of the
of the theater, where were the producer and the same consciousness is in their
hand. Well you imagine if all you've got in the theater was Mary Poppins,
it would be so boring. I mean, I'm not but sound amusing,
but not all the time. I mean, we need a view off
the spooky stuff, you know, the dark stuff, you know, the
scary stuff. We and it clashed you up to turs to eat the bugs
and live in the fifteen minute city. That so the whole thing is that,
you know, it's it's all part of the drama. It's all part
of the show. So long as we remember this is not a real world.
It's it's a construct. It's like a holographic world. It's a matrix.
And the thing is, it's more like a dream than a reality.
We're in a dream state and we can't you can't do any harm to yourself
because you're not even here. You know. You go into a theater and
it's so scary, but you're not gonna it's not going to kill you.
This great monster's coming out of this virtual reality. It's about to eat you,
but it doesn't actually eat you. And so it's the same. You
can do anything you like to the body. You can stick out red art
calls in people's mouths and kill them that when it's just you're doing dreadful things
to the car, you know, I mean, you're smashing in the windscreen
and you're you're ripping the tires. But you know, as long as the
driver gets out of it, okay. And that's what happens in every instant,
The driver of this biological vehicle gets out okay. And so we have
nothing to worry about in this physical plane. For those people that are out,
the people that want to do nasties to some things, I mean,
do they end up being facing the consequence of their actions On the other side,
I was on Lindus fan. I'd had this near death, this outer
body, whatever it is. Someone had taken me on past life regression,
that's right. And I saw myself as a monk on Linda's fan and I
had this little twig with this little cross, you see, like this,
And I was holding up this twig and this Viking came running up behind me
and split me. It did the worst possible thing imaginable for no reason.
I was a good holy He's sending little monk not mine in my own business
collecting herbs, and he literally split me in half, just for the sake
of the bloodlust. All right. Now I'm traveling with my dearly beloved brother
Stephen, and we're on a plane and we're landing in Stockholm, all right,
And Stephen says, you know, David, I feel I'm coming home.
And then he said, you know, David, I wrote this song
because Stephen and I write songs, and we write songs about past lives.
He says, do you know I wrote that song about the yellow sands,
you know, And I can sign people souls to the yellow sands, and
I said, ship, my god, the yellow sands of lindas Vahan.
And then I realized and Steve, we were going through this thing. We
realized he was the first Viking to jump off the first ship because Linda's Varn
was the first place invaded by the Vikings as a pyramid. And I went
to Linda's Farn and I looked for the scene I've seen in my past live
regression of the dunes with the hills in the distance. When I got to
the spot where which would just like what I saw in my vision, you
see, with the hills of Northumberland in the distance, I looked to my
right and there was a pyramid. I was right in the right place for
my brother to jump off that ship and kill me. So it's my dearly
beloved brother. So we laugh about it. You know, whoever hurts you,
wherever does dreadful things to you, it's a sacred contract. It's more
than your brother or your mother in another life. You know, you agreed
to do these things because you need that experience of suffering to learn the lessons
of unconditional love. That's what we're here for us to learn to love.
Right. It's interesting you mentioned Linda's varn Jogs might mind. About about years
ago, maybe three years ago, I was up at a place called truth
Seekers Northeast, which is a little meeting group a bit like Dorset Earth Mysteries,
but they were in New upon Time, and I had done a talk
there that day, but they'd set the evening up. They said, please
stay with us because we've got a wonderful medium coming here in the evening called
Jackie Right. And I never met her before, but she was a lovely
lady, very very talented medium. It turned out she was the president of
the Spiritualist National Union. So when you're the president of the Spiritualist National Union,
by golly, you've got to be a really good medium. And she
really really was. And so I saw her do a demonstration of clairevoyance that
evening, and one of the people that she was speaking to me happened to
be a lady sitting next to me. I never knew this lady, She's
just another member of the audience. But she said to this lady, she
said, I've got a gentleman here who's very smartly dressed. And she goes,
yeah, and she goes and I'm being shown like a big steering will,
so I feel that he either drove a lourie or a bus or a
coach. She goes, ah, that'd be my husband. He was a
coach driver. She goes, ah, But he's shown me doing his journeys.
And then she suddenly paused. She goes, did he break down on
the isle of Lindis Farhan, And she said yes he did. And apparently
she said, yeah, he showed me that his coach broke down on the
other side of the bridge on the Isle of Lindis Farn and he had to
wait four or five hours for someone to come and repair the coach and get
all the people back off again. So he said, he certainly got to
know he's members of his coach party as such, you know. But I
thought it was an amazing piece of evidence for this lady to pick up that
he had broken down on Linda's varnable. She can get that through. But
yeah, it was fascinating, and then she was very very accurate. So
as soon as he said Linda's Varan, I thought, oh, yeah,
that's a psychic story connected with that one. Now you talked about your own
channeling, David, have you had like have you been to any kind of
salces or demonstrations of mediumship yourself. Well, I was married to a channel.
I mean, I have a very strong relationship with Sheiba, and I
bring Sheba through. I've got a you know, I can call Sheba up
anytime I like, he's in my and so I've got this very strong link
because I married this, this doctor, and we had this It's like the
calling was that she wanted to look into the West, and so she you
know, she had the mediumistic powers, but she she wasn't really aware of
it, but she she she was a medical doctor and very business orientated.
But one of the things I do is I help people bring on their mediumship
abilities. You know. I helped people channel and I got these amazing sacred
supies from Thailand which which I sew, and people put the surpies on and
it helps them to channel, it helps them to connect you. So they're
like tools to help people. So anyway, I'm I worked with my wife
and she started channeling and then you know, she's very happy about channeling our
higher self. And it was so lovely because she was quite she was quite
a tough cookie, but her higher self was sweetest honey, you know so
I loved it. I loved it when I met her high herself. But
anyway, she said, I don't mind channeling so as song as I don't
get any of those that they call the mongs in Thailand, any of them
mongs coming through. But anyway, she went to Thailand for part of her
training out there, and her higher self got into a conversation with the higher
self of the the medium she was working with, and she didn't realize and
they were cutting a deal. And the next time when she came back to
Japan where we were, we were staying and I said, you want to
do some channeling, And then suddenly this very loud, powerful male voice came
through her saying, where am I? Where are the old time? One
of my gifts is that gifted discernment of spirits. So I knew it was
immediately Sheva. I said. I said, Lord Sheva, look, we
weren't expecting you. You're in Japan, we're in a hotel. I'm sorry,
we haven't got an altar, but you know we will. Saw that
ah, he said, ah, Now that once he knew where he was,
once he knew what was going on. But basically let's set this thing
up. And he got sucked in, you know. I mean he'd bit
brought in because this is you know, but to actually find him in that
state where it was a bit disorientated on arrival here. So but anyway,
for about two or three years, and we traveled the west and because he
wanted to look into the West, and we did all these channeling sessions and
yeah, it was really really amazing because she used to bring through Jesus and
Kwan Yin and the Mother Mary and I always remember a channeling she did one
Easter in New Zealand, and yes, came through. We invited him in
because it was his day. And this is what he said. He said,
you can't be both right and have love. He said, if you
are right, that makes someone else wrong. And as soon as you get
that polarity of right and wrong, that leads to conflict and leads to war.
He said, you know, we have to let go of our judgment
of right and wrong, just simply moving to love, unconditional love, and
that is that is the only way forward. And so in a way,
that's the answer to your question, you know about that the good people and
the bad people who were asking before, and there are no is, there
are no good is and bad is. We're all one, We're all the
one being in the medy bodies. We're just like children in the sandpit.
We have our squabbles, but we're all going through a learning curve and behind
it all we need to be witnessing and aware that the only thing that matters
is that we love one another unconditional. Hm. What would do you say
about how the alien et kind of visitations we get in kind of context with
the rule of that presumably they're playing a role on this physical stage as well
with us. What's your opinion of all that. Well, when I was,
you know, it's in Thailand, and this chap that he lives in
Thailand, he was the sort of you know, holding the space out there
an Englishman in Thailand, and when Sheva was in, he asked shever,
He said, are you an ET? And she said Sheva said, yes,
of course I am. You see, angels by definition are et the
extraterrestrial. And so the thing is that you know, we call them angels
in the past, but actually they're ets, and it's that ET one oh
one. I mean, if you want to see an ET, look in
the mirror because we're it. We're basically extraterrestrials here in the human bodies going
through some sort of schooling that we need. That's all part of extraterrestrial development.
So we are all ets. I mean, Andrew, you look like
in Et and all. You've got your mates in the background. I've always
felt that, actually, my soul isn't from this planet. Yeah, I
think a lot of us find but I know I'm not from this planet.
I mean, most of us come from other places. But yes, we're
you know, I think the extrapresstoral thing is, it's crazy to imagine that
in this vast universe we're the only intelligent speeches ideas terribly arrogant. Yeah,
yeah, I mean, there's there's a thing I saw on some program the
other night where they've been they've targeted and found all these exo planets over the
last sort of ten twenty years of whether they've been sending all these various telescopes
and probes out trying to scan these guys. And you know, it's interesting
because they've talked about hout a mythical nine planet, ninth planet. Can they
detect maybe the gravitational effects of a ninth planet out on the edge of our
solar system, but they're not sure if it's there. But the irony is
that they can see so many of these exo planets out in the fastest space,
you know, like for a thousand or something then present. But yeah,
it's just it's an interesting thing. So I mean, but the Grays,
I mean, that's the common one that people describe as aliens come in
here who are abducting people. Any thoughts on the Grays or anything, Well,
it's very interesting. You know. We went through this whole genealogy thing
and my father, well he was adopted, and it's like the DNA tests
show that because the Jewish, his only link to the Jewish family that we
come from, the Ash family is through a woman through the mitochondrial DNA,
which means that the woman he thought was his aunt was his mother, and
the woman he thought was his father was actually his uncle. But actually the
father is unknown. And I'm absolutely convinced that my father's mother was abducted or
had some sort of extra trest or visitation. So I'm convinced I'm the spawn
of et I think, you know, I reckon, I'm half extraterrestrial myself
or quarter or whatever it is. So what blood group? Are you?
A Recis negative by any time? I don't, I've never I've never managed
to get my blood I'd love to know what my blood group is. I
ought to get to get a blood test. But what is it about recist
negative? Apparently recist negative this is mainstream. It's it's an anomaly that don't
know what it is or where it's coming from. And apparently a lot of
alien abductees and contact tees or people who believe that they are aliens actually have
Recis negative blood group types. So I must get a blood I must do
the blood test and find out what I am. But yeah, I think
I've been reading a book by Paul Wallace. I think have you read an
Escape from Eden series? I've heard of it. I've heard it's really worth
reading. Yeah, he was an Anglicant expert on Bible translation, and he's
convinced that the that the gods of the Old Testament were extraterrestrial. And I've
always I've always believed that the god of Abraham, Istik and Jacob was an
extraterrestrial visitation. So the thing is that I really think they're closer to us
than than we imagine. And what Paul Wallace said is that there are millions
of people abductions, there's a lot of sexual and you know, it's sort
of it's almost like cross pollination between extra civilizations and the human civilization. There's
a lot of experimentation, a lot of a lot of work going on.
You know, I often wonder where I get all this knowledge from of the
universe. You know, how do I know it? Well, maybe I've
got an e te you know, that sort of genes have been planted into
me so that I can bring it all through from the extraterstrial masters. You
know. It's like a bit like a genetic implant. But it happened at
conception, you know. Yeah. I mean it's it's interesting talking about the
Bible and the Christian side of things, you know, because there were so
Christians out there that will kind of laugh at ghosts and UFOs and things,
and and yet in their own Bible, you've got the nepheline, You've got
the giants an anarchy, and you've got the talking serpent, you know,
and they're the ones laughing at us. I know, that's right. That's
so so true. Yeah. The one thing I love about's interesting. I
remember that the spiritualist people you're you're very open minded, you know. I
mean the people that I can talk to and have a lot of fun with.
You know, if I get in with these Christians and religious people and
all that model, I find the religious and the physicists and that they're all
locked in their paradigm. I don't have discussion with them. They're just closed,
you know. Yeah. I mean I'm always the sort of person.
I'm a bit I make a rod for my own back. But if they're
ar Jehovah Swittness is knocking at the door, I am the guy that tries
to talk to them. I always invite them. Men. I love the
Jared W's really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like changing them
on lots of things. He said. I like a bit of a banter
with them, you know. Well, I always remember a funny a funny
time. I don't think they were quite Jovia's Witnesses. They were King's Church
or some Christian thing, and they were doing some sort of stall presentation in
a high street beat I think in Bedfordshire when I lived there for about a
year, and so I was popping down to the local library or something,
and I came across his store with his Christians on. I thought, oh,
I'll have a chat with these folks. So I was talking away,
and I was talking about the flood and Noah and you know, could you
really get all these animals on the arc and that kind of question. But
anyway, this this this young Indian chap kind of joins us in the conversation,
just walks up and sees what's happening. So he starts talking to me,
and he starts talking to the Christian and We're having a sort of three
way conversation. And I'm disagreeing with a Christian strong on certain points. And
this Indian bloke says, and he's trying to use the Eric's depressions. And
it made me laugh. He said, in his Indian accent, with due
respect to your nation, with their accents, he said, he says,
the trouble is, uh, it's all tit for Tit just cracked me up.
I thought, oh my god. And the Christian guy cracked up as
well, and I thought, no, I think you mean tit for tap.
I said, oh got. But unfortunately the Christians, they're the folk
that come around. And if you're having a spiritualist meeting somewhere or something of
like a psychic fair or tuned in events, whatever, you're always come out
sometimes and you'll find these leaflets from the Christians put on your car or something,
and the work and shield you know you are sinners or something of that
nature, you know. And yeah, I would never go to their church
and give them a hassle or put anything on the gup. But they're always
quite they still quite righteous in doing so. That we are the Satanists or
the devil or whatever it may be, but we just explorers. I consider
we're just of nature. It goes back to what Yeshua said in Nelson,
New Zealand and Easter. You know, you cannot both be right and have
love. The problem with these people, like whether they're physicists or whether they're
Christians, they think they're right. So they think they've got to teach us
because we're wrong, and they've got to educate us, and they've got to
save our souls. They've got an agenda to you know, to bring us
into their wavelength of thinking. And it's just like, give us a break,
you know. I don't want to be saved by you guys. I'm
quite happy with myself as I am. I mean, we three are having
this dialogue and we're not trying to save each other. I'm not trying to
convince you the boy. You know, I don't give Mary fark. Weren't
you believe in it or not? I mean, I'm just having fun.
You know, we're having a good time, and that's where love is.
With love is where the fun is. Love is where we're all having a
joyful time. None of us have got an agenda. You know. The
conversation just flowing and a lot of interesting stuff is coming up, and it's
just magic. And interestingly, this mindset of I'm right and you're wrong,
not only has it caused a lot of wars in the world, but you've
got the science lot, and especially the jibbyjabby science lot, where you know
I've got the jab and you must have it as well, and that the
whole thing during the COVID era, of the whole jab thing, of the
jab versus the unjabbed. To me, it sounded like a cult trying to
convert people to their cult. Yeah, you're so much these religions and science
as a cult very much. The cult thing is there. People can't suit
the cult because it's been around for so long, but a cultures, a
cult is they're brainwashing. Are some scientists though, that are doing some research
in to the afterlife and as you say, you've you've got the people there
that have done the research there on the life after death near death experiences and
they've signed the affidavid to say that it's true. And there are people that
do explore the realms of the afternoon. There's the Schwartz. Gary Schwartz is
the scientist in America who is you know. He consults mediums. He's done
lots of research with mediums. He does tests for spirits and things, and
he says he finds that the spirits when he can cox tests to sort of
prove that the validity of them, he says that they go one step beyond
and they actually take charge of the experiment and they do things their way to
surprise him in a nice way. They turn the tables on him, and
they have their own independent thinking in the experiment, will go to the one
extra and do something else in the experiment, which is is a very very
interesting They take charge or that they have their own independence, he says,
which is very gratifying. But I found that in a and well, I
say, it's a spirit board or Ouiji board, whatever you want I call
it. My mum came through about eleven months after she suddenly passed away of
an analytic aneurism, and she came through this Uigi board and we had about
four or five spirits turn up. Me and some other people were there,
and my mom was patiently waiting in the wings, so to speak. And
she was the last person to come in and she said, hi, son,
and I knew immediately it could only be one person that was my mom,
and my dad was still around when this happened. But she she she's
meant to keep to her protocol where she's meant to give the my date of
birth and say what my middle name was. But she just went off on
her own tangent and started talking to and so they let her. They said,
okay, you you do what you want to do, mar Grit,
they said, and she goes, yes, I will, and she she
was sort of sort of I wanted to ask about, well what happened?
You know, have you met your your mom and dad over there? And
she's suddenly said, my mom came and met me. In other words,
as soon as my mom came out of her body, she said her own
mother was there waiting for her. Anticipation, she knew that she was going
to cross over. And I remember after having this sort of session with her
and she she was sort of saying, what happened. I thought, I
wonder if my gran appeared in the doorway of the bedroom where my mom passed
away. And I sat on the bed of the bed that she passed away
on, and I looked across and there was the doorway the bedroom. Then
I thought one of my graham was waiting in that doorway, like the idea
of this nearing hobored type of formation, you know. But again she took
charge. She suddenly said, yeah, my mom was waiting for me.
And rather than I say, oh, I missed you, she the surprising
thing. She came through and said I miss you too. And I was
really surprising because you tend to think oh. I thought it was just a
living that missed the dead, but the dead the spirits missed the living too,
which I thought was very interesting. That's very interesting. It's like the
story of that fiance, you know, that couple where he got killed in
the next Yes, you know, it's interesting what you're saying, because it's
obvious that he was missing her, finding it really hard to be away from
her. She was him, which is why she could really help him by
working with mediums like you. Just as you know he was trying to help
her. He also needs help to get over the mosque. You know,
it's a tragic bloss Yeah. Yeah, So do you have any kind of
expectations of when you cross over, David, of what you're likely to encounter,
or do you think it's a Jesus character that is going to meet you,
or a Buddhist monk or something, Because you've got lots of various white
maybe I think they're going to be terribly confused with our multi faith. So
I've got Kwan Yin and I've got Shee. Yeah, they'll all be tussling
saying, you know, saying, now I'm pushing against each other, trying
to come along and be the one to receive me. Now, I mean,
I I would love to meet my father, you know, he's passed
over. I'd love it if he said to greet me and my mother.
I'd be loved to have my mom and dad and because they you know,
they were very special to me in my life. And yeah, I would
be lovely to meet I look forward to meeting Shiva. I look forward to
meeting Kwan Yin and mother Mary is a very powerful connection in my life.
She's she's she's very strong. And I actually had an apparition of Mary and
Jesus in Measure Glorier and it was from very interesting because I'd gone with my
book. I took my manuscript to the book because I wanted to get a
blessing for the book. You see, you know that it's an earlier version
of this you know this book here and in any way, so I took
it out to Measure Glorye and I went into the church and it's like,
I have all these negative thoughts because I was a Catholic, but I hadn't
been to church for many years and I've become very anti Catholic, and so
I was going through a bit of a challenging time and you know, a
lot of resistance. But the monk, the priest was talking about the passion,
and I suddenly tuned in to these what it must have been like for
Jesus. He was a young man and he, you know, to being
flogged alive, and I suddenly had this wave of compassion for him. When
that wave of compassion happened, it was like this hand went through my head
and all those negative thoughts were like I saw them scaring away, like these
little black monkeys. They were like these thoughts were living entities, and they
were brushed out of my head and I just wept with jaw and relief.
And then this figure appeared on my right. It was very sort of ethereal,
a bit like those Rudolph Steiner paintings, you know, the children do,
and very misty and indistinct, and I knew immediately it was Mary,
and I recognized her and I said, you know, please introduce me to
your son. Well, then the next thing I knew is that he was
standing in front of me, but he was very distinct. He was in
this white robe and it was blowing in the wind. And the fascinating thing,
Neil, is that it was hot and I could feel the dust in
the wind stinging my cheek, and he was standing and he was looking at
me. He didn't say anything, and I was looking at him, and
he was in a distance a bit in a hillock, and suddenly this light
came from his heart and he hit me in the chest and it filled me
with this liquid light that was also love. It was like oil, but
I was absolutely blissed out of my brains. I was just full of bliss.
And then this bliss began to move down, and so there was normal
forehead there, but blissed out nose, and then normal nose blisted out now
and it was moving up. You know. I had these sort of blissed
out legs that were sort of normalizing, and it was like oil going through
a tube, you know, then the viniscus oil coming up in it.
It all came up, and then it got into my heart, and then
it moved down. This liquid love and light moved down my arms and into
my hands, and my hands were absolutely vibrating with the power. And I
flicked this wallet out of my jacket pocket. I was weeping, the tears
were streaming down my face. I came to it and I didn't want the
money on the The first thing I said to my you know, my film
said by me, you take that wretched money stuff and look after that from
now on. And then the sheet we knew what we had to do,
and my hands were vibrating with this power. And she led me that.
She opened all the doors for me, led me through the village of Measure
Gloria back to our hotel room, took the manuscript out of my brief suitcase,
placed it in my hands, and all the power and vimph into the
manuscript. That's the power in that book by Jesus Christ himself. Yeah,
by the sacred Heart of Jesus. Yeah. I mean, that's really Catholic
sacred heart. But I really experienced it came out of his heart that you
know, you see that these Catholic things with this light streaming out of his
heart. When you felt that, when you've experienced it and it's filled you
with liquid light, man, it's like your reprobated. But he loves me
nonetheless, you know what I mean, that's the story you get. I
didn't deserve that, you know. Oh wow, how there was a there
was a guy I think he's passed over the now called Ron Pearson. Oh
I yes, yes, yeah, you knew him. Ah. So he
was looking into the physics of the afterlife as well, and I was trying
to understand that and he's talking about dark matter and things like that. And
I believe that he thought that that's possibly the key to it was this dark
matter that they're described in the universe. They don't know what it is,
but it's so much of the universus eighty percent or something like that. What's
your thoughts on Rob, Well, I think he's where he's onto something.
I think that's the non atomic matter, that the plasma that's filling space.
You know, the sea's getting saltier through the salt coming off the land.
Well, what happened I call it star ark. These stars are blasting off
you know, the the you know, the solar flares and things like that,
the cosmic cosmic wind. There's all this non atomic matter pouring out of
the stars into space and it cools down and the spirits they feed off this
plasma and that they use that to grow their bodies as we grow ours.
So space is full of literally billions and billions of these space beings who are
formed, these extraterrestrial beings that this isn't now the fifth dimension, this is
the super physical and their bodies are these fields, you know, these electromagnetic
fields that of of of energy. And the thing is that that I think
that that's what the dark matter is. Space is full of this this,
this plasma, and that's that's full of spirit. Eighty percent of the universe
is full of all these spirits bodies. Yeah, so so these spirits would
would they be easier although it's plasma, would that be a physical kind of
three dimensional material? Is it the same thing as exoplasma? Is that a
different thing? It is, it's very it's at it. There's a link
between that nectar plasm. But the point about the dark it's still whirlpools.
You know, I've just lost my ball of wool i. It is it
basically the plasma is these whirlpools, but they're not organized into an atom,
you know where you get the electrons buzzing around, the protons and the neutrons
and the nutrous of the atom. Well, the temperature is too high in
the stars to get organized like that. And when the plasma gets blown off
into space from the stars, you see, it doesn't form atoms. You
get atomic nuclei and you get and you know, protons and electrons on that.
But they can form atoms, you know, they can organize, but
the distances are so vast and that it's more likely that they are incorporated into
these fields because the fields doesn't matter how big the distance. These electric fields
are infinite in extension, and so the body is of these spirits spirits is
angelic being cut in plasma. It can be really vast. There can be
hundreds of miles across or thousands of miles across, even in their body.
You see no wow now on the other side of life. Uh. They
various books that I've read anyway, and certainly through the trance medium ship of
Leslie Flint, when various people spoke through him in sales is they would describe
the afterlife that they crossed over to, and many of them said, there
doesn't seem to be a sun there, as the light comes from everywhere wherever
they are. And it's an interesting thing of my brother. After my mum
had passed away, about a month afterwards, he said he had a dream
about my mum, which you know, I'm not surprised really, we're all
going through that emotional baggage of losing someone. And he had a dream about
her where she came down the stairs from where she died in the dream downstairs,
and she materialized as a solid person so we all thought, oh,
great, mom's back where we'll take her off for a family meal at the
local pub. So we'll climbed in the car. In the dream drove off
to the family pub and had a nice meal there and then came back.
And then she said, I've got to go now, I've got to go
back. So she went back up the stairs, and as she was going
up the stairs, my brother in his dream said, will you come back?
And she turned around and said, and this is quite an interesting remark.
She said, I will return, and I will come back to the
land of shadows. And then she went up the stairs and just slowly de
material eyes as she went away. And I thought, that's an interesting thing,
the land of shadows, because we have either sun. Yeah, And
I started thinking about the Leslie Flick tapes and things where they said there's no
sun, that there can't be any shadows. I presume, I don't know.
There's light coming out of every worst wonder if it's brilliant. This is
such an interesting conversation. But just of course it's the it's all the light
coming from the sun that sets up the shadows. Here's another interesting physics thing
that will blow your brain a little bit. And I don't pretend to even
address the physics, but it certainly warps my brain. About twenty years ago,
I saw a DVD because I was writing a book co writing a book
at the titled fairy Craft. So I was doing lots of research into the
fairy kingdoms and the fairy realms and things, and I came across this DVD.
In for those that want to try and watch it themselves, it's on
YouTube. It's called The Very Faith by Canadian filmmaker John Walker, and he
interviews this Glasswegian build up Steve o'delle I think his name is, and he
was on holiday by himself by all accounts, in southern Ireland and it just
finished raining and he was in this area called Fairy Hill or Fairy four and
he said he could hear this weird sort of singing or music coming from somewhere,
couldn't trace where it was coming from, but the rain had just finished
raining on this hill. He said, the sun was starting to come out
and he started to form a lovely rainbow over the valley and he thought,
wow, what a lovely, stunning view that is with a rainbow and the
sun's and what a beautiful view. He said all the time that he was
entranced by this lovely view. There was something out of his peripheral vision down
here that was moving and it buggled him, and he didn't know what it
was, but he carried on looking at this scene none bold, but this
thing was still moving down near it, and he said, what is that?
And he looked down and he said he saw a small woman about a
foot high, maybe maybe a bit taller, brown leathery looking skin, brown
leathery sort of hat, and she appeared to have He described them as they
looked like an old pair of sheep sheares, that said, nearest thing he
could place it to, like an old pair of sheep sheares. And he
said she was cutting around the sole of his shoe like this, and he
said, where his extended on the hill, He said, there was some
male equivalent of this being this small woman who and this is where it gets
weird, was rolling up Steve's shadow like a roll of paper. And he
said he just looked at them, and he didn't know what to say,
and he just went like that to say, what you're doing? And they
suddenly looked at each other in shock, as if to say, he can
see us. He said they went and just vanished like that, And he
said, I dread to think what would happened to me had I not seen
them? They would have carried on cut this shadow away and rolled it up
my paper and stole it away. Think because the sun had only just come
out to shine, which caused his shadow to form, because presuming it was
overcast, but you know, and everything. So it's almost if they were
laying in wait for a shadow to be formed that they could then steal.
Amazing that. I mean, it's just mind blowing. I'd been like,
can't comment on that. Yeah, feeling this man's going to answer good question
that I have no answer for. I've never been so blown out by my
life that they were stealing his shadow. I love stories like the Noild stories
like that. It really resonates with me. Yeah. Yeah, if you
like stories like that, and you can watch itself. What's that, Andrew?
If you like weird, still have a look at the Woolleton Gnomes.
Oh lovely, can you send me the link? Yeah? Yeah, the
Wolleton Nomes. He's saying, well, yeah, yeah, a series of
children. I think in nineteen seventy nine they were playing by the park of
Wollaton Park on the edge and it's just getting dusk. It was thinking early
September, and there's about seven of them and they were playing. And then
suddenly, as it got dars at dusk, these lights started to pierre out
the corners of trees, and out of these trees came these small little cars
with gnomes in them. And they thought. There must have been about sixty
nomes in about thirty cars, two nomes per car. And these cars hovered.
They didn't have wheels like we'd understand. They flew over, buzzed over
logs and things like that, like a bit like Luke Skywalker's land Speed or
something like that I'd imagine out of Star Wars. And they hovered and they
chased the kids around the park. But it wasn't done in a nasty fashion.
It was done in a lighthearted arm chased me kind of thing. Interesting
enough, as soon as they got to the edge of the park where the
light was coming through, like from the street lamps, and I wouldn't there.
The nomes couldn't go to the light of the edge of the park where
the street lamps were. It's as if the daylight or the light of the
lamp affected their material realization in some way. Isn't that stea, isn't that
extraordinary? Yeah? So the same with sounds that you have to do them
in the dark, don't you? Mostly yes, mostly yeah with hmmmm,
but yeah, with the the shadow stealing. I think they were called brownies.
That's what they called him in folks. That's exactly small brown beings and
they're kind of presumably part of this fairy kingdom. Yeah, and they're brown
is because of the brown, leathery looking skin they've got. But uh,
we were talking to fairy law enthusiasts Simon Young a few months ago and I
told him that story as well, and he was thrawed by it. And
he said that a couple of these brownies appeared on this guy's bed one night,
and he said they had a bag. And he said that when he
woke up and there's these two brownies setting on his bed holding the bay,
said they were eyeing him up like they would eye up a horse market,
you know, like he was a commodity, and they were prepared to take
something from him and put it in that bag. I suspect, which was
again the bag is almost symbolical taking something. They were shopping for something,
and these gnomes sorry that these browniests in Ireland would do the same to Steve
Odell. But it's a bit like Peter Band taking the shadow of Peter Band
separating and that kind of stuff. It's amazing. But then then maybe wonder
if they come from the place. They come from a place presumably like my
mum described, with no shadows because there's no sum there, and so my
mum described in the dream the land of shadows, and yet these these creatures
have come to steal the shadow. Steve Odell, you see so good,
that's what would be progagonous, what would be valuable in their world. Shadows
would be really treasured out because you know, I mean, you see,
our world feels so concrete, and yet you know the fact that the shadow
can have some sort of reality. It's almost like you're you're stepping between the
worlds. When you're actually seeing these creatures, you're seeing into their world.
It's like your vision that the brain has these filters which closes us down from
our perception of the hyper physical world. But as soon as that you lift
the filters. That's why these you know, these narcotic drugs like you know,
aurhuasca and and you know, cannabis and LSD and these sort of things.
They alter the chemistry of the brain, so the filters drop and people
start seeing into the other worlds. It's like, you, guys, the
fact that your your mediums and psychics means that the filters aren't working properly,
you see what I mean. So you're not you're not really cutting yourselves off
from from the other world to be full in the physical. So when the
people are seeing the brown is and that they're seeing that, it's almost like
the veils are really thin and you know, so it's almost like the shadow
has. To us, it's just a feeling, it's just a shadow,
but to them it's almost kind of physicality in their world, you see.
It's fascinating. Anyway, I've got my nome how Yeah I knew what.
Yeah, it was a very gnome like I know, we're we're we're we're
talking about gnomes and I'm a thrected gone and revealed my real identity. Right,
I think we better draw this chat closet chat to Yeah, iowuasca Jack,
Gary Robinson, if you're listening, we'll be going to have you back
to You're gonna hopefully tell us about your a Aquascar research. So we longly
was chatting you later on this year. Gary, if you're listening, So
we'd like to say thank you to David Ash for talking to us about his
book Super Energy, which I bought a copy of Amazon, but it will
be deserving W Smith and other good retailers, but certainly you can get it
off Amazon and you'll bring out another book soon, David, Is that right?
Yeah, I'm working on another other book called was Einstein Wright and yeah,
it's it's it's. What I'm doing is I'm separating out the Quantum Vortex
and I'm coming in with that first and then I'm going to readdo the Super
Energy and updated and upgraded and do that as the second book as well,
So the two books are separate. You see. Yep, excellent And if
people you've got your website as well, haven't you. Yeah, I've got
I've got dot com. There's a David Ash dot co. But it it
it it's it's it's pretty rudimentary. What I prefer people to do is go
to my substat page and on substack. David Ashes three three three you get
all my all the essays, you can read the essays that are going to
be in the new book. And also if you go on to bandcamp,
I've got an album out of really beautiful spiritual music called Balm for the Soul.
So it's good if people go to camp and and also it's on Spotify
and all the other platforms. But go to band camp and listen to my
album and you'll find it really will be bound for your soul mhm. And
of course I've got all my very I've got I've got my channel on you
tube as well, so there's a lot of news YouTube. They were you
find David everywhere on spot where the nome is everywhere, excellent, the nome,
the physicistnome is everywhere is the all right, thank you, thank you
very much, David Andy. Any last words before we I just think when
when I think of band camp, I just think of American Pie and some
very strange goings on. M I'll have to look into that then, all
right, they thank you very much. Indeed, one of all you've been
listening to the peach Shot for your network, and thank you very much once
again for David ash and we wish him good luck and his new book,
and we'll see you next month of the Paranormal Peek Show. Good Night,