WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.679 It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine 2 00:00:08.759 --> 00:00:23.160 day. Now here's Nick Coffee. So for those of you just now joining 3 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:27.359 the party. We finished up the three o'clock hour mentioning this tweet from Mayor 4 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:32.399 Greenberg about how the city of Louisville ranks number three in the United States for 5 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.039 visitor return and a couple of people have kind of said the same thing on 6 00:00:36.079 --> 00:00:39.399 the text line, which is a really good point. You go to any 7 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:48.600 city Louisville size or larger, you're gonna run into homeless areas, crime like 8 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:53.880 it's not We're not unique, but it's just so politically driven at this point, 9 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:58.520 as far as you know, I'm not even gonna go down that path. 10 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:03.119 But my only point was to say, I think downtown Louisville is a 11 00:01:03.159 --> 00:01:04.760 really cool place. Not saying you've got to live here or come here every 12 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:10.680 day, but everything is going to be better for this city in every aspect 13 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:15.480 if our downtown is a thriving area of the city. So just just my 14 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.959 thoughts. But anyways, let's get it started here our number two Coffee and 15 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.760 Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Nick, Coffee with you 16 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.239 the company man, mister John Alden riding shotgun today and we've been we've been 17 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:30.519 busy so far today been a very busy show. We're going to keep that 18 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:34.680 rolling along. And I've yet to run through these names of players in the 19 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:40.519 portal that if you're interested, right, if you're somebody that you know is 20 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:45.120 invested even a little bit in trying to figure out what these rosters are going 21 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.879 to look like for both teams Louisville and Kentucky, then I'll give you you 22 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:55.159 know what's who's out there, and you know the interest level I guess from 23 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:00.680 from both sides, right, Louisville a handful of transfers and at least two 24 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.319 on the Kentucky side as well. But let me give you the the quick 25 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:09.240 update here that that I think is worth sharing on great oh sibor so he 26 00:02:09.560 --> 00:02:15.319 is right now, I believe the number four ranked player in the portal as 27 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:19.599 far as guys that are available. He may even be higher than that. 28 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:23.879 But Louisville I still believe is in good shape. But that doesn't mean I 29 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.840 think that like they're going to get him. But here, here's here's what 30 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.879 Trilly Donovan is running with and uh, I'm telling you each week that goes 31 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:36.039 by, I mean, I mean I think he is, like his discord. 32 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.800 I think it's it's the most informative thing. I mean, it's you 33 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:44.800 kind of really got to get. You got to really dig at times because 34 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.560 there's so many people just I mean, it's a HUMONGOUSH chat room, like 35 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:51.479 that's that's what it looks like to me. It reminds me of a HUMONGOUSH 36 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:55.000 chat room and you don't really know, and there's different rooms for each school, 37 00:02:55.159 --> 00:03:00.039 and Trilly kind of bounces around to give updates as best he can on 38 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:02.159 on what's going on. So you know, I'm not on there very often, 39 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:05.400 but I'll check it out, you know, every now and then. 40 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.879 And that leads to me having to kind of dig to figure out, Okay, 41 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:15.439 you know, here are no joke, one hundred and fifty responses that 42 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:19.719 don't tell me anything. They're responding to something that was said two hours ago, 43 00:03:19.840 --> 00:03:23.120 so you kind of got to dig. What I would recommend this discord 44 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:29.080 platform do is like highlight Trillie Donovan within this forum slash chat room. So 45 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:32.479 like his would he write stands out more than anybody else's. And if that's 46 00:03:32.520 --> 00:03:36.759 like a setting and I can turn it on, you know, maybe I 47 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:39.560 should reach out to tech support because anyways, he's to me, he's been 48 00:03:39.599 --> 00:03:45.759 as informed as anybody on any of this transfer portal stuff. And it sounds 49 00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:50.759 like the Texas Tech visit for Great osibor who's that visit I guess ended yesterday? 50 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:55.680 It ended similarly to the visit to Kentucky. Where as it was concluding, 51 00:03:55.719 --> 00:04:00.159 it just seemed as if it wasn't going to work out. I don't 52 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:04.439 know if it's money or what it is, but apparently there's already another player 53 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:09.479 that Texas Tech is prioritizing and trying to bring in for a visit. And 54 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:11.960 we'll tell you who that is in a second, because it's somebody louis is 55 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.680 going to try to get as well. So Kentucky got a visit, they're 56 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:17.639 not in the mix. Louisville got a visit. Sounds like it went, 57 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.879 you know, it was maybe uneventful, but it doesn't. Here's what I 58 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:27.000 think is happening. I think every bit of this process for this young man 59 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.360 is all about business and the transaction that's going to get him where he's going 60 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.920 to go doesn't mean he's not taken in the sites at these campuses, doesn't 61 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:39.160 mean he's not maybe enjoying Churchill Downs, which I know he did go to. 62 00:04:39.959 --> 00:04:43.319 But I think it's all about money, which I don't say that to 63 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:45.800 be critical. I get it. He is an a To me, he's 64 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:49.480 the absolute example of the kind of player that is going to be super mindful 65 00:04:49.480 --> 00:04:51.959 of money, and all of them are. But he will make more money 66 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:57.839 playing college basketball this year and maybe does he have another year, like is 67 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:00.480 he going to get a COVID year? I don't know, but he will 68 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.120 benefit. He will make more money doing doing that in college basketball than he 69 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:10.600 will in professional leagues because he's just not I mean, he's not an NBA 70 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.639 guy. And you can go make good money over in Europe and other countries 71 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:15.680 and or you know, you're not a country, but you know what I 72 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:20.000 mean, you can make money playing professional basketball abroad and make a good living. 73 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.240 And to me, if you're making money playing the game you love that 74 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.120 You've you know, given countless hours for free your whole life, Like you 75 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.519 are a very blessed individual. And I always get very defensive for people who 76 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:34.720 like make fun of have fun playing in Argentina. Like, yeah, they're 77 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:40.519 they're play they're they're literally living out a dream of doing something that's not worked 78 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:43.879 to them, something they love. But anyways, he will make more money 79 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.399 in college and that's why apparently he's got a big price tag and it's even 80 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:50.519 getting bigger. It sounds like, so I'm gonna I'm going to assume Texas 81 00:05:50.560 --> 00:05:55.720 Tech has has has fallen out of the race here because they're not willing to 82 00:05:55.720 --> 00:06:00.720 pay what he what he wants. So now Washington, that's who he's visiting. 83 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.120 I think it starts today. That's where his coach from Utah State is. 84 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:09.920 That's where he's coaching, Danny Sprinkle. And I'm not gonna count them 85 00:06:09.920 --> 00:06:13.560 out because it just I mean, I feel like if he knew, he 86 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:15.480 was, like if if Washington wasn't really gonna be the school, then he 87 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:20.120 wouldn't toy with his old coach and like still take the visit. But they've 88 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:25.120 added some other big guys in the last week or two, actually I think 89 00:06:25.160 --> 00:06:27.040 less than that. Like I think like in the last week they've added like 90 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:30.920 one of the one of the big guys for Oakland that you know, beat 91 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.360 Kentucky and NCAA tournament. You guys remember that that was awesome that that happened. 92 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:40.360 Love that night. I'm not sure what was better that night or the 93 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:44.199 night that uh they realized Mark Pope was going to be the coach and like 94 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:46.120 he was, Oh, it's the Mark Pope night. I think it is, 95 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.600 too, Yeah, I think it is. It was such a euphoric 96 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:53.560 feeling, like it was because the fans went from and I guess Louisville kind 97 00:06:53.600 --> 00:06:55.920 of the same thing, but it felt like it was a grander scale. 98 00:06:55.920 --> 00:07:00.279 With Kentucky, the anguish realizing you were getting a big name coach and you 99 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.160 were settling for an alumni who had yet to prove himself on a big stage, 100 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:08.279 and then twenty four hours later, maybe forty eight hours like, oh, 101 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.600 it's fine, We're gonna rally around this dude. Well, it was 102 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:14.839 similar that there were many that were unimpressed and worried, but I think Louisville 103 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:18.120 was more able to realize, Yeah, I mean, this route doesn't totally 104 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:20.759 surprise me, because you know, we're coming off of a couple of terrible 105 00:07:20.839 --> 00:07:27.600 years, and you know, with Kentucky they were so cocky about you know, 106 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:30.879 how you all sit back and watch how a real blue blood conducts a 107 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:34.399 coaching search. We're gonna wait for Billy Dunn and make him say no. 108 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:40.959 He might leave the Bulls in the midst of a playoff run because it's Kentucky. 109 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:46.480 Anyways, Washington added a big guy from Oakland, and they also added 110 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:49.399 another big guy in the portal that I'm not sure where from. But that 111 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:53.839 doesn't mean that you know, they're out of the mix. But it has 112 00:07:53.920 --> 00:07:58.240 led to people assuming that maybe they aren't gonna be able to pay what he 113 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.879 wants, which the rumor is now now that he wants one point five million 114 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:05.639 dollars. And I've said this many times, why not say it once more. 115 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:13.240 I don't believe that he would get that from anybody. I don't. 116 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:20.360 I believe that no school is going to deny that they're paying a big amount 117 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:24.560 of money to somebody, which technically the school's not doing it. The collective 118 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:33.000 is right or a big donor. So if the perception is they've got money 119 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:35.559 to go pay players, that is going to get more players interested in playing 120 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:41.240 for them. If the player it's got this big price tag and somebody is 121 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:46.240 willing to pay it, allegedly, it's a beneficial thing for both sides. 122 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:48.799 That player looks like, damn, he must be really good. They're going 123 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.919 to pay that much money. And the schools, you know, whoever's in 124 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.320 the program, I guess you should say the collective that's associated. They look 125 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.960 like they got money to throw around, So you know, that's that's what 126 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.840 I You know that that's that's the way I see it. So maybe one 127 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.279 and a half to me, one point five million dollars, like that's an 128 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:09.679 insane amount of money. But then again, there are people who you know, 129 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:13.960 that's probably not that much money to them. So maybe I'm just a 130 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.960 poor that sees that and thinks no way. But Louisville I believe would pay 131 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:24.759 him more than others would because they would just not be able to justify it. 132 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:26.000 Louisville, again, I don't think it'd be one point five million, 133 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:33.240 but they were apparently willing and ready to pay for the young man who went 134 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:37.720 to Arizona State Jaden Quaintans. I don't believe it was two million, but 135 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.360 like, let's just say, you know, you take sixty percent off of 136 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.279 two million for Quaintans and sixty percent off of you know, the one point 137 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:46.399 five Like you know, you could, you could still do that, and 138 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:52.120 you do really need a player like him. So I believe Louisville Will will 139 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:58.240 have a good chance of landing him because I think Texas Tech and I know 140 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:00.879 Kentucky's not not at it anymore in Texas Tech. I think, you know, 141 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:03.120 it's not been like officially reported like it was with Goodman in the and 142 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:11.679 the way he reported on osbor os bor and Kentucky. But let me put 143 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.399 it this way. I'm trying to get my hopes up, but I think 144 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:18.120 louis was in a pretty good spot. However, I just can't count out 145 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.480 Danny Sprinkle because again, he like he may take if he was going to 146 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:24.840 take less money, who would he take less money for? Probably Danny Sprinkle, 147 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:28.960 who who he's followed from Montana State to Utah State and now maybe Washington. 148 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:33.679 And there are some that like are turned off by a guy wanting that 149 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.879 much money. But look, we got to just get through that because money's 150 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.600 gonna matter to every one of these players. It just is some it'll matter 151 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:46.519 more than it will to others. But it's not your money, right, 152 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.080 I mean, even if you're given a monthly contribution to the to the fiboh 153 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.639 two circle. I mean it's not like you're on the you're on the hook 154 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.480 for the one point five million or whatever. It is like you're you're on 155 00:10:58.519 --> 00:11:03.000 the younger side, John. Would you I mean, would you think less 156 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.240 Maybe not think less of them as a person, but would you not be 157 00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:13.399 as juiced for a Hoosier commit if you knew that, like it's only about 158 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:15.919 money? Or would you just not care? I don't care. I just 159 00:11:15.960 --> 00:11:20.200 wanted to win at this point. And maybe that's comes in being so far 160 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.000 moved from success that you just at least I mean, maybe it's not that. 161 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:26.360 Maybe it's more of a general college basketball fan thing. You got to 162 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:30.840 be careful, so far moved from success, like I mean Louisville, Like, 163 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.600 don't don't patronize me. Oh, I'm talking like real success, like 164 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.679 you have a Final four in two thousand and two success. Yeah, so 165 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:39.519 you're you're more so saying that, like, you know, their love for 166 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.399 Indiana wouldn't be that strong because in their young life, Indiana hasn't had like 167 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.559 a marquee moment. Correct that makes sense? I mean, I'll be corny. 168 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:56.519 I loved the idea of Louisville in a previous World Now landing players because 169 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:00.559 people loved Louisville or and they knew of Louisville right and honestly be real. 170 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:03.320 Rick Patino was a huge part of that. Like Rick Patino, even though 171 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:07.440 he didn't recruit quite as good as Cali Perry, he is still one of 172 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:11.120 those coaches that when he would walk into an event, an AAU event, 173 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:16.519 everybody knew he was there, and you know that matters. Now, that 174 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:20.240 matters a little bit. But you gotta have money, right, and I'm 175 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:22.080 not. You know, I've been able to adjust and understand that. Like, 176 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:24.720 hey, because here's the thing, Like, if these guys want to 177 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.600 make this a long term thing where they're playing here for a few years and 178 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:33.000 they're continuing to make good money, they're going to be high character guys that 179 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.639 I think. I mean, you're you're a fool if you're somebody that's here 180 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.320 making nil and you're and you know you want to keep doing that and you're 181 00:12:39.360 --> 00:12:45.120 not, you know, being marketed, like using your social media to appear 182 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.080 to be I don't even say marketable because I don't believe that anybody's given these 183 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.919 guys money because they think it's going to benefit their brand right, Like, 184 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:56.279 it's not like nobody's selling cars because of these billboards that have UK and UL 185 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:58.679 football players on it. They're not we know that. But if you seem 186 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:03.600 like relatable, kind of down to earth, appreciative of the fans, that 187 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.519 kind of stuff, it's only gonna benefit you, so you know. I 188 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.159 I was a little surprised because I know that. I think late last night 189 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.679 it might have been when truly Donovan mentioned that one point five million is what 190 00:13:15.039 --> 00:13:18.639 apparently it's going to cost to get oh Sibor, and I was surprised that, 191 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:20.679 Like some people were like, all the hell with him. I'm thinking, 192 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:22.600 okay, well, if somebody can pay it, like, let's do 193 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:26.320 it, because we need a guy like this. He's pretty good, he 194 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:30.919 is, all right, excuse me. I think I just burped on the 195 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:31.879 air there. I didn't feel that one coming. I didn't hear okay, 196 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.679 good, yeah, clear, I just admitted it that maybe you know, 197 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:37.960 something happened, but I thought it might have come through the headphones here, 198 00:13:39.000 --> 00:13:41.639 but it didn't. I avoided a crisis usually like I can if I've got 199 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:46.480 something like that going on, like I but I literally just went to transition 200 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:50.000 to talk about something else and you know, let out a belch. All 201 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.600 right, let's before we get to our next break. Here's what I want 202 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:56.720 to do. So well, we're gonna do it after the break, but 203 00:13:56.759 --> 00:13:58.840 I want to let you know what we're gonna do, so just to try 204 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.639 to, you know, liven it up a little bit here, right. 205 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:03.799 I talked about it at the beginning of the show. When it comes to 206 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:09.559 players in the portal, I know there are people that really really are interested 207 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:13.919 in every in every name that appears in the portal that is in somehow connected 208 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:20.159 to Louisville or Kentucky because we care about these college basketball programs like nobody else. 209 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:24.120 We are college basketball crazy and very unique situation here where you've got two 210 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.399 new coaches that are building teams from scratch and they're needing the portal to do 211 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:31.679 that. So, I mean, I don't believe that like it's boring, 212 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.320 nobody cares, but it's I just don't think it's good for radio. So 213 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.600 let's go back in time to eighties nineties where you had like these dating shows 214 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.919 where you know, these these hosts would have these women that we were there 215 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:50.679 and they're you know, they're they're available, and they're looking for a man, 216 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.799 and they introduce these these eligible bachelors, and they really, you know, 217 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:56.840 they almost it's almost like they're calling them in the starting lineup at a 218 00:14:56.879 --> 00:15:00.120 game, right like he Al's, you know, just that kind of of 219 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.879 stuff. I'm not going to do that in like the corny TV guy voice, 220 00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:07.279 but you know, I'll do a couple here in the in the four 221 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.759 o'clock, do a couple more in the five o'clock to kind of just give 222 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:15.440 you a little bit of a quick elevator pitch as they say on who these 223 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.759 who this player is, where he's from, what schools he's considering, that 224 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.360 kind of stuff, And look, a lot of radios trial and error, 225 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:26.120 So this may be awful, this may bomb, This may make you say, 226 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.720 I am never listening to this idiot again, But look, you got 227 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:33.559 to take risks sometimes. And I again, I would get up and walk 228 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:37.639 to the restroom after spending a whole segment talking about a player from BYU whose 229 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.159 name I probably weren't wasn't pronouncing correctly, you know, a guy who I'd 230 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:45.919 never heard of until the previous segment. That now Louisville is apparently getting like 231 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:48.240 and I'm just thinking, like this, like, who would like this? 232 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.120 This can't be good radio, not that I'm ever doing great radio, but 233 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.000 you know, I'm going to try to mix it up a little bit here, 234 00:15:56.000 --> 00:15:58.080 all right. Something else I'm gonna get to that came in on the 235 00:15:58.080 --> 00:16:03.399 text line we'll do this before the five hour. The comment from Rajon Rondo 236 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.039 on the Jeff Teague podcast about why he did not come to Louisville. I 237 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.519 think that's getting completely you know, I don't want to say blown out of 238 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:15.600 proportion, but like I I'm surprised how many people are like upset about that. 239 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:19.480 But we'll let you hear it and discuss because I think my man, 240 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:22.080 Larry O'Bannon, if you don't know what it is, Larry said something I 241 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.440 guess to Rajon Rondo at the time he committed to Kentucky that now people assume 242 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.519 that that Larry was, you know, trying to not get players to come 243 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:33.360 and play for Louisville, which to me would be silly. But anyways, 244 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:36.759 we'll get We've had a few people ask about that over the last few days, 245 00:16:36.879 --> 00:16:38.440 last couple of days, so we'll get to it before too long. 246 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:42.000 But stick with us. It is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by 247 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:48.080 Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so. Somebody sent me a good 248 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:53.639 list here from primetimer dot com that is a cultural history of TV dating shows 249 00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:56.639 in Man. This goes back. I mean, there's some of these shows 250 00:16:56.639 --> 00:16:59.919 that I remember hearing about, but like I was too, I was, 251 00:17:00.240 --> 00:17:02.480 you know, very young or not even born when some of them were on 252 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.759 TV. But there used to be a you know, it wasn't just Jerry 253 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:11.720 Springer and Maury Povich. There were these corny, hokey like tea like dating 254 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:19.000 shows, and they were there were different, I guess different, Like some 255 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:22.680 of them were like they were trying to set people up. Sometimes it was 256 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:29.720 unmarried couples who maybe couldn't agree to get married, and then they would hook 257 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.720 them up with somebody that was a single person and they'd have to decide, 258 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.000 you know, do they want to stick it out with the relationship they are 259 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:37.799 already in or maybe you know, it's I mean, the Internet changed everything 260 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:41.039 as far as I think people's interest in that kind of stuff. But I 261 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:44.279 guess now, like you know, what is that what's that stupid show on 262 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:47.720 Netflix that my wife has made me watch? Is it the time yeah, 263 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:51.680 we're like they all like they're like little pods and they can't see each other. 264 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:55.079 That is like perfect trash TV. My wife loves it, yeah, 265 00:17:55.119 --> 00:17:59.680 because I would never want to watch that, and you know, when she 266 00:17:59.759 --> 00:18:02.319 wants to watch it, I always say, no, let's watch a game 267 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.400 or something. But like when it's on, you know, if I'm doing 268 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:07.960 something and she's got some downtime and she rarely ever watches TV, but if 269 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:11.599 she is watching that, like and I'm like, I'll get hooked on it 270 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.920 knowing that it's awful, but you know, it's you know, good trash 271 00:18:15.960 --> 00:18:18.000 TV. Which there's a lot of that kind of stuff. I mean, 272 00:18:18.039 --> 00:18:22.440 like Judge Judy, Love Judge Judy. That's trash TV. You know what 273 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.200 I'm saying. Like that's a main state too. It's been around for a 274 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:30.319 long time. Well so they they what they show now on like our local 275 00:18:30.359 --> 00:18:37.039 TV stations is all reruns. Her current show that she makes that is a 276 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:41.720 spin off essentially of Judge Judy is Judy Justice and it's only available on Amazon 277 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:45.680 Prime and I tried to get into it. It's just not the same. 278 00:18:45.880 --> 00:18:49.400 It's just different. But you know, Judge Judy's been on like as you 279 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:53.119 said, mainstay for so long that I'm sure there's episodes that I could watch 280 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.559 today that I saw ten years ago that I don't remember, you know what 281 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:00.200 I mean, And I'm look, I'm not kidding you, like I'm The 282 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.559 last time I really made it a point to watch a show that was on 283 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:07.880 every day was Judge Judy. I was obsessed with not obsessed with her, 284 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.839 although I think she's awesome. She's such a badass and she's funny, but 285 00:19:12.039 --> 00:19:17.000 like you know, that show was like such a it was it was an 286 00:19:17.000 --> 00:19:19.720 addiction for me. I was very sad to see that she went digital and 287 00:19:19.799 --> 00:19:22.640 just did the streaming stuff. Hired a bunch of family members too, Like 288 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:26.960 she's got a granddaughter that's like somebody. She chops it up after each case, 289 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:30.359 and I'm like, nobody wants to hear what nobody wants to hear what 290 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:32.880 this twenty four year old has to say. Not the twenty four year olds 291 00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:36.039 don't have good opinions. But like you're Judge Judy, I know you don't 292 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:41.839 care what she thinks about the case. So anyways, Yeah, maybe I've 293 00:19:41.839 --> 00:19:42.880 made it a little weird, and some of you have acknowledged that, like 294 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:48.319 We're not trying to date these transfers, right, but I'm just trying to 295 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.400 get you know, not even creative. I'm just trying to add some life 296 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.119 to this as I ramble on about dudes who you probably will never hear of 297 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.200 again, if you know, if they don't end up coming to Louisville. 298 00:19:57.839 --> 00:20:03.279 So we had a wave of transfers that were targeted, right, a lot 299 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:07.839 of guys that visited for two straight weekends. And that's how the rosters kind 300 00:20:07.839 --> 00:20:11.000 of turned out. Right. You had the two guys that followed Pat Kelsey 301 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:17.839 and that's Rain Smith and James Scott, and then you had Terrence Edwards Junior, 302 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.440 and then after that it was everybody else that it was added were part 303 00:20:21.480 --> 00:20:23.640 of those two visits and you know worked out and you've got to you know, 304 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.359 even Chuck, you Hebburn a little bit different. He was kind of 305 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:29.119 a guy that it sounds like he was already a done deal before he did 306 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.559 make a visit. But either way, you know, we had a really 307 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:36.160 quick wave there of guys that were we were that were on the radar, 308 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.559 and I can't think of many that you really really wanted that they didn't get. 309 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:44.319 So not to say you've landed everybody. Obviously would have been great to 310 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.920 get Jaden Quainton's and whatnot, but it got a little quieter, whereas last 311 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:52.480 week it just turned into the only guy we knew on campus was going to 312 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.400 be Osabor And I'm not even sure if any of these guys are visiting. 313 00:20:56.400 --> 00:20:57.720 But here's the you know, here's a couple, here's a couple of names 314 00:20:57.720 --> 00:21:03.319 to uh to keep an eye on here for the Louisville because they they clearly 315 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:06.480 still need players. There are players available, good ones that you know, 316 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:11.079 I think would be nice additions, but you know, as far as getting 317 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:12.279 them on campus for a visit, I guess that would be the next step. 318 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:19.559 But we'll start with a man who is named a core A core AChR 319 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:27.799 AChR. He's a Samford transfer, Samford, not Stanford, and they were 320 00:21:27.799 --> 00:21:33.759 pretty good last year and he was a breakout player for them. So originally 321 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:38.640 from Australia, had very little production in his first couple seasons at Samford, 322 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:42.759 and then last year really broke out. Averaged sixteen point six and a half 323 00:21:42.799 --> 00:21:47.960 boards, two blocks per game, I'm sorry, one point nine blocks per 324 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.640 game, shot fifty eight percent from the floor, and forty three percent from 325 00:21:51.680 --> 00:21:56.160 three. Again, he's six' nine, really really talented player. And 326 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.880 if you're familiar with Samford, they are a team that plays what's called Bucky 327 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:06.640 Ball because their head coach's name is Bucky something and think of what it's now, 328 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:08.200 I got to look it up, but yeah, Bucky McMillan, who 329 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.599 became like a big name, you know, last year because he got that 330 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:15.440 job right out of the high school ranks. And they were good last year. 331 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.559 And they play really really fast, which Pat Kelsey likes to play that 332 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:22.160 way as well. So there's a compatibility there between Kelsey and again we're not 333 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:25.680 trying to hook him up to be you know, we're not going to go 334 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:26.799 on a date, but you know what I mean, like it could be 335 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:32.960 a compatible match, as they say. So, he has visited Auburn, 336 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:37.799 and I think what's happening here is that there's a lot of others, other 337 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:41.400 schools coaches I should say that maybe weren't as familiar with him, or maybe 338 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.640 didn't prioritize him. And now that's that's changed a little bit because again after 339 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.880 visiting Texas Tech, I'm sorry, Auburn, it sounds like now Texas Tech 340 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:53.240 is trying to get him on campus for a visit, and you know, 341 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:57.279 Louisville is involved. That was Trillie Donovan's report this morning. Is that Louisville 342 00:22:57.319 --> 00:23:00.680 again. I think that, I think word for word is what he said 343 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.839 is that Louisville is in the mix. But you know, that could mean 344 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.400 a lot of things. I'm sorry, he's visiting Auburn this week and the 345 00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:11.480 other potential visits are Texas Tech and I guess Louisville again. I don't think 346 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.079 anybody has you know, has said that that's gonna happen, but I would 347 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:18.440 imagine if they are involved in their talking, I guess the next step for 348 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:22.039 pat Kelsey would be to get to get him on campus for a visit and 349 00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:26.799 you know, try to try to close the deal. Also, Saint John's 350 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:32.200 apparently I'm seeing here could be could be involved as well, which we got 351 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.400 to worry about Patino. He just landed Kadari Richmond from Seaton Hall. So 352 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.880 Daveon Smith and Kadari Richmond both off the board and are going to be playing 353 00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:42.079 for Rick Patino at Seaton Hall, giving them a really good backcourt. All 354 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:45.200 right, let's move on to the next available player in the portal. Here, 355 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:51.119 let's go with a Let's go with a guy that Kentucky's in on here, 356 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.920 shall we? In fact, it's get a little hot and heavy between 357 00:23:55.519 --> 00:24:02.720 Mark Pope and Chaz Lanier because according to uh Trillie Donovan, uh, Mark 358 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:06.839 Pope and Chas Laneer had a two and a half hour zoom call. Man, 359 00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:08.759 what got a little personal? Could? I mean, that's a that's 360 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:11.960 a long zoom call. He better had their batteries charged. I mean, 361 00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:18.519 anyways, this is a guy from North Florida going through the NBA draft process, 362 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:21.200 not going to be drafted. I don't think he got an invite to 363 00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:23.000 any of the combine like the G League Combat or anything. But he averaged 364 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:26.599 twenty points a game last year, four four point eight rebounds, shot fifty 365 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.880 one percent from the floor. You know, it sounds like Kentucky is is 366 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.279 really coming after this guy. As far as the other schools, you know, 367 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.960 I don't even really know what the other the other competitors are. I 368 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:42.720 mean, I guess, yeah, it looks like he's I mean, any 369 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:47.400 anything you look up about this guy as far as him in the portal, 370 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:52.799 it all it all ties to Kentucky. So again, I think they're that's 371 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.119 the I don't want to I don't want to say they're putting all their eggs 372 00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:59.240 in that basket, but it's probably a good sign for them if he's going 373 00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:03.960 through the draft process and the only school that appears to be linked to him 374 00:25:03.240 --> 00:25:08.000 is is Kentucky. You want to do one More's do one more here, 375 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:14.240 because this is a guy I really really like. His name is Casein Pryor. 376 00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:18.200 He is a South Florida transfer South Florida. If you remember last year, 377 00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:21.799 this past season, I should say, uh, they had the most 378 00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:26.640 unexpected, really good season in a long time, right abdu Raheem the head 379 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.640 coach that left Kennesau State. He took over at South Florida, and I'm 380 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:34.240 pretty sure they won the regular season in the American Athletic Conference with the likes 381 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:41.440 of FAU and some other decent programs. So he was one of their better 382 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.359 players. He averaged let's see here, he average, he says, six 383 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.039 y ten kind of vert. You know, he fits with a lot of 384 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:51.279 the other guys already on this roster, which is versatility six nine six ten, 385 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.680 but average thirteen points eight boards and shot at about thirty five percent from 386 00:25:55.759 --> 00:26:00.720 three sounds like he's become someone that is a a name that you know, 387 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:03.519 a name that's getting more and more attention, because that's what's gonna happen once 388 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.279 you get down to a smaller group of players being available than you know, 389 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.279 programs like Louisville, Kentucky and others that really need to add somebody you know 390 00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:15.599 like this, they're gonna they're gonna ramp it up. So it sounds like 391 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.640 Arkansas, Louisville, and Villanova are the schools that this guy's considering. And 392 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.440 uh, you know, I worry a little bit about Arkansas because Caliperry and 393 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.759 the money he has. But you know, Pat Kelsey's done a good job 394 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:30.200 so far of being able to sell transfers. And again, I don't want 395 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.039 to act as if I'm saying he's landed every player he's wonted, because he 396 00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:37.599 hasn't. But he's got a pretty good success rate. I feel like and 397 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.480 I like this guy's story prior. He's somebody that developed late. Started his 398 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.720 career at Boise State, was there for two years and did not play much 399 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:51.519 at all, then went the Juco route at Northwest Florida, which same school 400 00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:55.119 that produced the former Louisville player Chris Jones is actually where Steve Forbes used to 401 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:59.119 coach. But anyways, he was a really good juco player and that landed 402 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.279 him at South Florida for one year and he really really had a great year. 403 00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.000 So you know, I would say, I mean, if in a 404 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:11.319 perfect world, if you could, if you're Louisville, if you could land 405 00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.200 O, Sibor and prior, I mean, that would be again, that 406 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.759 would be a dream scenario. Not to say that, you know, because 407 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:22.359 again I should probably just have a disclaimer that never ends that like, we 408 00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.279 don't have a clue how this is the ultimate unknown for both of these teams 409 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.359 locally, just because new coach, all new players that have never played together 410 00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:33.640 before. So you just don't know. But as far as like personnel and 411 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.200 knowing you were going to have to use the portal to go get players, 412 00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.519 I mean, if you could, if you could add oh Sibor and really 413 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.359 any of the other guys I've mentioned, that would be it'd be huge. 414 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.400 Would you think, John, did that make it like less boring or was 415 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.119 it just as they had some flavor to it? You know, just try 416 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:52.319 to do something because I'm curious how many people tuned in in the middle of 417 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.079 it and were like, what the hell what is he doing? Yeah? 418 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.519 What is is this? You know? Is this? You know? Is 419 00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.720 this? I mean we've already had two people mentioned that the music sounded like 420 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:04.240 something you'd see in like an old school porn So you know, I don't 421 00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.519 you would you all would know that, not me, but you know that 422 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.119 wasn't what we were going for. You are the ones who made that weird 423 00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:15.039 by saying that. So anyways, and for the record, there's no other 424 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.960 there's no other players, Like no, there're no you can't go, like 425 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.680 the portal is closed, like so there's nobody else that's going to be added, 426 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:27.200 which I think what that has done is led to fans, probably not 427 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:30.119 just those locally, but there's fans that are thinking of themselves like, uh 428 00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.799 oh, we're gonna be these are the only guys left. We better go 429 00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:34.799 get them. Because for a while you could think, Okay, well, 430 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.599 you know what, here's five six guys that you know, i'd really be 431 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:41.960 I'd love to see Louisville or Kentucky Land, and then two days ago by 432 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.279 and there's another group of twenty that hit the portal. But now it is 433 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:52.160 officially closed. All right, Uh, let's see here. Where do we 434 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.519 want to go next? There? The the numbers that Jeff Goodbin put out 435 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:57.319 is something I wanted to share with you guys because I just found it to 436 00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:03.079 be interesting when it comes to low major and mid major programs and like how 437 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:07.519 the portal is impacting them, you know, in a negative way. So, 438 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.960 there were twenty two players of the year in these leagues that are considered 439 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.200 mid major leagues or you know, low which is you know, the lowest, 440 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.680 I mean, leagues you've probably never heard of. So of those twenty 441 00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:26.720 two players, ten exhausted eligibility, they're no longer playing college basketball, three 442 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:33.359 went pro with eligibility left, one returned to his school, and eight have 443 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:38.960 transferred elsewhere. So you know, you only got one guy back. And 444 00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:45.240 I would be willing to bet that ten that exhausted their eligibility after winning player 445 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.359 of the year in their league probably would have left. Like we can say 446 00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.599 that right, Well, I mean that's not something that's like it used to 447 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.319 be. A if you would talk about he's probably gonna transfer years ago, 448 00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.319 would be like why would you say that? Well, because they can and 449 00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.119 they could make money, like you if you are at a low level D 450 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.200 one school and you win you know, player of the Year in the a 451 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:14.200 Sun for Scotty Davenport at Bellerman. I mean you decided to stay at Bellermine. 452 00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.400 Good on you, man, because that's you know, you could go 453 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.000 elsewhere and probably make more money. You could play a play for a program 454 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:23.720 that would probably end up being on television more that kind of stuff. So 455 00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.599 I still at times feel like it's wrong to just say, well, they'll 456 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:33.160 probably transfer. But like, even though we're still pretty early in this new 457 00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.519 world, I mean, that's what happens. And the one guy who returned 458 00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:44.440 it's kind of an outlier because it's Caden Pierce who plays for Princeton. Right 459 00:30:44.480 --> 00:30:48.079 if you're in the Ivy League, I mean in the Ivy League, by 460 00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:49.039 the way, has lost a lot of players. But also, like if 461 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.920 somebody wanted to stay at a place like Princeton to get their degree, and 462 00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.920 then we can kind of understand why, right, Like that's because that's a 463 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.839 kind of degree that would probably be very beneficial for you throughout the rest of 464 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.720 your life. All right, there is another let's see here. Yeah, 465 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.559 so there were one hundred and seventeen first team All League players in those leagues. 466 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.000 You know what I'm saying, Johnson not just the player of the years, 467 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.079 but first team All Conference in the a SUN, in the MEAC. 468 00:31:19.039 --> 00:31:26.720 So of those forty seven twenty of those one hundred and seventeen sorry, excuse 469 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.640 me, there were one hundred and seventeen first team All League players from those 470 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.319 lips. From that level, only twenty six of those guys returned to those 471 00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:38.359 schools. Now forty two of them exhausted their eligibility, but the biggest number 472 00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.680 of those because four went pro with eligibility left, but forty five of them 473 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:47.599 transferred elsewhere. So that's just like I think you're going to see that probably 474 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:51.000 every year, and that's just going to be the new world of college basketball. 475 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:52.680 And you know, the coaches at the low and mid major level, 476 00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.759 like it sucks for them because they literally are in a really, really tough 477 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:04.960 situation, but they'll adjust, and you know they'll adjust or they will probably 478 00:32:05.000 --> 00:32:07.880 you know, get left behind. When I say adjust, you just have 479 00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:12.720 to know, like, hey, like I'm going to have a new team 480 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.480 maybe every year, and that look, that's not going to be unique to 481 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:16.599 the lower level. I mean, look at Louisville and Kentucky. I mean, 482 00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:21.079 I mean, the reason for that is a very rare situation that will 483 00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.400 probably never happen again. But like if you are in fact, I've there 484 00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:28.319 have been some I can't think of the of the two schools right at the 485 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.599 top of my head, but right around the time where the coaching carousel was 486 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:36.359 rolling, there were dudes leaving head coaching jobs at the mid major or low 487 00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:42.039 major level to be assistants because like, they are probably better off sticking it 488 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.640 out as an assistant on a high staff and then going and getting a decent 489 00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:49.319 job rather than trying to grind up from the bottom of the Division one level. 490 00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.319 Because again, if you have really good players and you're really successful, 491 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.880 you're probably going to lose a lot of those guys, which you know, 492 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.079 it does suck, but I don't really know what you can do about it, 493 00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:04.640 and I can't like who I'm That's one of those things that although it 494 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:10.680 is a tough break for those fans of those schools and those coaches, but 495 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.440 like who's at fault? Like who are you mad at? Who are you 496 00:33:15.519 --> 00:33:20.680 blaming? Because it's that and that's like whenever people get mad about guys who 497 00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.200 want to transfer in the portal even from the higher level, or you know, 498 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.680 guys who leave and it's because of money. Like there's an emotional tach. 499 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.319 There's emotional connection to you and your team as a fan, clearly there. 500 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:36.759 I mean, there's a connection between player coach, that kind of stuff. 501 00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:38.480 But at the end of the day, most of these guys are just 502 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:42.480 trying to do what's best for them and if they have the ability to play 503 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:45.640 at a higher level and it in return actually has them a chance, you 504 00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.079 know, to make some decent money. It's a bummer, but like who's 505 00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.799 I mean, who you mad at? You know what I mean? Like, 506 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:58.400 it's not a marriage, and you know, unfortunately marriages sometimes don't last. 507 00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.160 All right, take another time out here. We'll come back on the 508 00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.519 other side. Get to the text on some good stuff coming in and we'll 509 00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.119 tell you where Louisville came in and a couple of these post spring rankings for 510 00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:13.159 college football. So stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. 511 00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:19.719 That's right, Coffee and company rolling along here on a Tuesday afternoon. Apparently 512 00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:24.599 we're going to get some crazy storms tonight. I know the mayor had said 513 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:29.440 something earlier on social media about telling everybody to be you know, be aware, 514 00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.079 be safe, all that kind of stuff. So you know, I'm 515 00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.639 to the point now where I kind of just I kind of just assume that 516 00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.559 we're not going to get anything crazy. But I think the risk is higher 517 00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:45.599 tomorrow as well, all compared to tonight. Okay, I don't know what, 518 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:50.039 like hours they're expected to be the worst. But and this is you 519 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:53.639 know, I to me, this is the time of year where like the 520 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:57.880 we seem to get like this in the fall, I feel like you can 521 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.639 get a thunderstorm that turns into okay, some tornadoes hit the ground. But 522 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.440 again, I feel like in the last year or so, like we've had 523 00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.679 the deadly stuff has been happening in like December and February and March and things, 524 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.639 things happening, and it's at times make you think, okay, maybe 525 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:15.960 the world is coming to an end. Like you know, I'm telling you. 526 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:22.159 Something spooks me out about temperature just drastically changing like in an insane you 527 00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:25.920 know, insane level within a day or so, and just that eerie, 528 00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:30.440 you know, quietness. You know, that's spooks me out a little bit. 529 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.000 But usually I just sleep through it, like, I don't. I 530 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.800 can't tell you last time I woke up because there was a big storm that 531 00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.280 you know that caught you know, that caused a power outage or loud thunder. 532 00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.840 But my wife, she she gets worried, can't fall asleep, stays 533 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:51.280 up, you know, waking us up every five minutes to go downstairs. 534 00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.159 And you know, it's it's it's something I got to deal with because you 535 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:57.599 know, it'd be a real a hole. I'm like, why are you 536 00:35:57.639 --> 00:36:00.840 waking me up because you want me to not die in a storm? Like 537 00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.920 she's being nice, she cares, but I'm like, you know, we 538 00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:07.880 could probably sleep through this, honey. But anyways, everybody be safe because 539 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:09.519 as much as you know, at times, don't think it's going to be 540 00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:15.199 as severe as maybe they tell us, you know, better safe than sorry. 541 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.519 When's the last time we had like really really bad I mean I remember 542 00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.039 last spring, and it was early spring. I mentioned February and March earlier 543 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:27.719 from last year. Remember the winds and I don't know if this was a 544 00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.239 bad storm, but during the day and into the evening, the winds were 545 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:35.119 so bad that there were trees falling over I remember there were planes that were 546 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:38.679 struggling to land on the runway. There was a semi completely turned over in 547 00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:42.719 southern Indiana not far from here. That wasn't that long ago, right, 548 00:36:42.960 --> 00:36:46.880 just over a year ago, I remember at one point. And I don't 549 00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:52.639 know if it's just getting older or the pandemic kind of really making it seem 550 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.360 difficult to know. Okay, was that ten years ago or was it last 551 00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.719 week? But there was a time where Glenn Mary the area over there near 552 00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:01.639 Fern Creek that got that. I think it was like one of the areas 553 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:05.360 that, you know, one of the only areas that really kind of had 554 00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.199 like five five six houses that were kind of destroyed. Ye. So, 555 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:14.519 uh, you know, better better safe than sorry, all right. So 556 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:19.920 I didn't mention this yet, but DJ Wagner we talked yesterday about where he 557 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:23.920 could end up. Usc was was rumored to be UH in play and uh, 558 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:27.559 I still I still would have thought that if he was going to go 559 00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.280 to Arkansas, it would have like already happened. But I was wrong, 560 00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:35.199 because now he's visiting this weekend. John Rostein reports, So DJ Wagner could 561 00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.239 be following John Caliperi to UH to Arkansas, and you know, he'd be 562 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.039 a nice addition, But I just is, you know, I've said many 563 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.800 times, I just I don't know what he does really well. He's probably 564 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.880 not terrible at anything, but he's not great at anything. And you can 565 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:55.360 get by in college with that if you are an insanely good athlete that defends, 566 00:37:55.760 --> 00:38:00.880 and you can just at times out athlete people because you've got the ability 567 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:05.519 to play above the rim. That ain't DJ Wagner. So you know, 568 00:38:05.559 --> 00:38:10.800 I do find it interesting and it's genuinely a good question. But Kentucky and 569 00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.400 Arkansas, you know, like who's gonna be better in year one? Like 570 00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.320 Louisvell is not gonna compare themselves to many people, right, because it's we 571 00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:22.400 know it's not Kenny, which is great, but also you know, it's 572 00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:27.679 I just think the newness of this and the fact that the nightmare is over. 573 00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.639 I think it's gonna be quite a honeymoon for Pat Kelsey, unless, 574 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:31.760 of course, you know, the team sucks and he loses a bunch of 575 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:34.360 games, which I hope is in the case, but you know, you 576 00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.360 never know. I mean, louisll and Kentucky are obviously gonna compare themselves to 577 00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.880 each other because more often than not they usually do. But the Kentucky Arkansas 578 00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:45.400 dynamic is just gonna be fascinating for me to watch from afar because, like, 579 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:50.800 if you're Kentucky and you end up seeing Cali Perry slowly but surely as 580 00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.920 symbol a team that's like way better than yours, like that wouldn't be ideal. 581 00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:58.440 But like, there's not gonna be any of them, in my opinion. 582 00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.960 I'm sure you'll find some, but there's not going to be many that 583 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:05.920 are out there thinking, well, this proves we should have not like let 584 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.760 Cal walk away, and we should have done everything to keep him because that 585 00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.320 thing had just run its course. It was so obvious that you know, 586 00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:21.119 even if in five years Cali Perry is rolling at Arkansas and he's got you 587 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.880 know, a couple of final fours or something, and Mark Pope hadn't made 588 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:25.960 the Elite eight, you know, that wouldn't be a good look and you'd 589 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.440 probably be bummed. But I think a lot of their fans, and I 590 00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:32.559 can't speak for them, but they would understand that like that wouldn't what was 591 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:37.000 happening at Arkansas in that five years probably wasn't going to be happening in Lexton 592 00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.159 because it just was like it was a toxic situation, to be honest with 593 00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:46.960 you. So right now, I mean Arkansas fans they are they're they're thrilled 594 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:51.480 to see that, like a dou Thiero ends up there, and Big Z 595 00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.559 followed Cal and now maybe DJ Wagner and obviously all the freshmen or most of 596 00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:01.320 the freshmen followed him other than Jaden Quaintan's and one of the other fresh one 597 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.639 of them went to Georgia, who actually ended up being not highly ranked when 598 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.199 it was all said and done. So, you know, Cala Perry, 599 00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.159 you know this is this is the back and forth that I've seen that I 600 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.280 just find to be interesting. It's you know, Kentucky fans are kind of 601 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.679 like, wow, Cala Perry is going to have the same team as last 602 00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.440 year, Lol, like you know, expecting them to be terrible, and 603 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.440 Arkansas fans are like, well, last Dodd checked John L. Davis didn't 604 00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:30.679 play for Kentucky last year, and last Dodd checked whatever that guy's name who's 605 00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:31.880 a transfer from Tennessee. Do you ever figured how to say his name? 606 00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:37.119 Audio? Or It's goundn't get real confusing because they've gotten to do do Thierro 607 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.199 and then I think the last name of the dow maybe the guy who transferred 608 00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.639 from Tennessee who was a big time edition. So yeah, that guy didn't 609 00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.440 play for But here here's the thing, like cal can have the same team 610 00:40:51.159 --> 00:41:00.880 essentially, and he can replace Rob Dillingham and Reed Shepherd as well as Antonio 611 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.400 Reeves with John L. Davis, the kid from Tennessee. And then maybe 612 00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:10.039 let's say they get another transfer that's available, that Arkansas team is not going 613 00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:14.239 to be as good as the Kentucky team was as far as potential. I 614 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:20.679 mean, Cali Perry had three of Kentucky's best three point shooters of all time 615 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.800 on the same team, and that's Sheppard, Dillingham and Reeves. And he 616 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.679 lost Oakland in the first round. So I don't know. Maybe he makes 617 00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.039 it to the Sweet sixteen next year something like that. But I think Kentucky, 618 00:41:35.320 --> 00:41:37.960 you know, once they see Mark Pope coaching their team and you know 619 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.480 they're into it, and he you know, he's gonna do something super corny 620 00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:46.039 at Big Blue Madness, right like it's gonna be It's gonna be something, 621 00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.079 and they're gonna love it. They're gonna eat it. Up and once they 622 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:52.639 start playing, I don't think they're gonna think about Cal as much, but 623 00:41:53.440 --> 00:42:00.280 I guess it really just depends on It depends on how successful both sides are. 624 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.119 Right, Like if if Pope's struggling early on just because you know it's 625 00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.559 new and he put a brand new team together and at this point there's not 626 00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:10.840 like a star on that team and Arkansas is even worse, Like they're not 627 00:42:10.880 --> 00:42:15.159 gonna care, right, I mean, I feel like I'm trying to play 628 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.480 psychiatrist here, but like, I think it would be unusual for you to 629 00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.719 just not pay attention to what Cal's doing at Arkansas. You're you're probably not 630 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:27.320 going to obsess over it, but they'll obsess if he's good. Yeah, 631 00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.599 and actually he's like they'll obsess if he's good in Kentucky, but what was 632 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.639 underwhelming? But I feel like they're gonna what are they gonna say though, 633 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.079 because it's not that they'll they've turned on him already so much because they got 634 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.360 their new man. That like, if he's great in your one and they 635 00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.519 stink, they'll be upset, But like, what's going to be their counterpoint? 636 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.559 Because at that point they would completely be Like if they're if they're gonna 637 00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.440 start saying that they wish he was still there and that Barnhart would have got 638 00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.840 it worked out, like they would have flip flopped. It's not that they 639 00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.559 want Cal back, they'll just be super upset, like, why couldn't he 640 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.599 just get this done while he was here. Look, the embarrassing losses in 641 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.599 the tournament, like those are painful, and those last. And what I 642 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:14.079 mean by that is you'll remember that forever that you lost to Oakland with that 643 00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:19.000 team, and you know, you lost to Saint Peter's with Oscar sheebway like, 644 00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.840 you'll remember that forever and I will too, by the way. But 645 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:29.159 outside of those Cal always made you relevant, even if you lost your luster 646 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:31.679 a little bit. You always felt like you were gonna have one of the 647 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:37.199 most talented teams and that you were gonna move the needle, not just because 648 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.320 you're Kentucky, but because what Cal brings to the table. And I think 649 00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.719 that gave him a level of comfort and that's why he won the off season 650 00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.039 every year. Well now they don't, they don't have that. So I'm 651 00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:53.480 just you know, I I really am the dynamic between Kentucky fans and Cal 652 00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.599 and you know now that they have moved on, and you know, he's 653 00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.760 got a new booth thing, and you know they've they're you know, they're 654 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.519 into Mark Pope as much as you can be. And you know, I 655 00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.880 mean, like it's it's a really bad, you know, BYU Mormon joke, 656 00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:14.400 but hopefully some of that got get it. But and by the way, 657 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.960 like I want Mark Pope to be like super corny, because I gotta 658 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.840 be honest, I think he's a pretty likable guy. I mean, I'm 659 00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.599 gonna wan him to lose every game, but like, I think he's genuine 660 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.719 and you know, I hope he sucks as a coach, but you know, 661 00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:29.719 I'd be a liar if I told you I think he's terrible. But 662 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:36.079 no program has standards as high as Kentucky. And that's a dangerous situation for 663 00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.320 anybody to be in, especially when it's one of your own. All Right, 664 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:46.480 we got the five o'clock hour coming up next right here on Sports Talk seven ninety