WEBVTT 1 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:44.039 Hello, and welcome to Open Mind UFO Radio. This is your host, 2 00:00:44.119 --> 00:00:50.200 Alejandro Rojas, and I am joined by nobody Martin's night here today because he's 3 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:52.679 going to be pretty busy, but that's all right. We've got a lot 4 00:00:52.719 --> 00:00:56.399 of news to go to through, so I don't know if we're going to 5 00:00:56.600 --> 00:01:00.399 even have time for Martin and my winty bat banter, so we'll just get 6 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:04.079 right into it. But you're listening to Open Mind UFO Radio, where we 7 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:10.400 cover credible UFO news and information in a journalistic way, so it's not necessarily 8 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:15.799 that we're coming to conclusions, but we're sharing substantiated, credible information so you 9 00:01:15.799 --> 00:01:19.760 can make your own decision. So we'll be looking also at the review at 10 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:25.200 the news stories that happened this week, and there has been a lot of 11 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:29.040 them, like I mentioned, so we'll go over those and then after that 12 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.439 for those of you who are just here for the interview, we usually start 13 00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.640 that off at about the twenty six minute mark, and our interview today is 14 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:40.840 with Danny Silva, So this is great. Danny Silva is running a website 15 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:44.120 called The Silva Record, and he's a little bit new to the scene, 16 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:48.760 so we started this blog he's been posting some great stuff about to the Stars 17 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.400 and this Pentagon UFO program that has been in the news so much. So 18 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:57.159 we'll talk to Danny about what inspired him to do this, to put up 19 00:01:57.159 --> 00:02:00.680 this website, and some of the stories that he's ran across. But before 20 00:02:00.799 --> 00:02:04.719 that, let's get to the news. So lots of news out there. 21 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.280 The very first one is my story, and I'm very proud of it. 22 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:12.560 So many of you will know that on the website Den of Geek, which 23 00:02:12.639 --> 00:02:16.919 is kind of a sci fi news site, that I've been reviewing the television 24 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.599 show Project blue Book from the History Channel. Of course, some of you 25 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:27.000 have been very frustrated with the show that it has not stuck to the facts 26 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.400 of, you know, what really happened in the real Project blue Book. 27 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.680 However, you know, it is inspired by it, as they say, 28 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:38.240 and hopefully and I think it has, you know, gotten people to realize 29 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:39.919 that there was a Project blue Book and that it wasn't as cut and dry 30 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.719 as people thought. That there was really a doctor j Allen Heinik, who 31 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:49.439 is a star in the show, but well someone that's supposed to kind of 32 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.360 represent him, but the real doctor Heinig really did feel he was a skeptic 33 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:58.400 and then eventually became a believer when it came to UFOs. So the other 34 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:01.159 thing that is great about the show that is a big positive is that not 35 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:07.639 only is each show about a real UFO event, throughout each show, there 36 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:13.800 are kind of these nods or easter eggs that hint at other real cases. 37 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:16.639 So really, if you're in the know, there's an abundance of information out 38 00:03:16.639 --> 00:03:20.319 here. And what's been great for me is when I write these reviews, 39 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.919 I can call these out and tell people about these cases and then link to 40 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:28.400 them. But what we did here, I wasn't able to review every episode, 41 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:35.159 so we put together this gigantic guide to the entire first season. So 42 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.479 not only do I have links and information to the real Bluebook files for each 43 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:43.599 of the cases that they covered on each of these episodes, but I also 44 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.280 have links and information about all of the little easter eggs in there. So 45 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:52.719 some of these, you know, are some really fun and compelling stories that 46 00:03:52.759 --> 00:03:55.360 weren't featured in the show, but are something that are still really cool to 47 00:03:55.400 --> 00:04:00.159 look into. Some of the cases I can think of off the top of 48 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:05.080 my head, are you know the mythology of the Philadelphia experiment. You know 49 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:11.520 what the nazis really worked on in the past. As far as advanced technology, 50 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.159 we have the Lubbock Lights, well that was in the story, but 51 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:19.319 the details, for instance, behind this project the Lubbock Lights is pretty extraordinary. 52 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:25.360 And the green Fireballs there's actually a big story about scientists and their UFO 53 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.560 sightings behind that. So there are a lot of there's a lot of background 54 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:32.040 information here that is a lot of fun that they alluded to. And we 55 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:36.160 know we've had David O'Leary on the show that you know he's a UFO buff 56 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:40.560 himself. So they jam packed this full of these little easter eggs. And 57 00:04:40.600 --> 00:04:44.480 you can read this on my latest Den of Geek article. And I do 58 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:47.040 want to remind people if you go to Openminds dot tv on the front page, 59 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:50.519 you'll see the UFO headlines right up front there, and the ones that 60 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:55.240 I'm referring to are the ones at the top right there right now. I 61 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:59.000 also put a link in the show notes to the UFO headlines, so if 62 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.920 we're talking about past headlines, you can see that. But the page, 63 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.199 the UFO headlines page is really cool. It's a great resource where you can 64 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:10.519 look at you know UFO headlines in the mainstream media going back for years. 65 00:05:11.480 --> 00:05:14.399 So yes, check out this story. I'm very very proud of it. 66 00:05:14.480 --> 00:05:17.639 A lot of great information and for me, you know the net when it 67 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:20.160 comes to the show, and I know some of you disagree, but I 68 00:05:20.199 --> 00:05:24.759 think it was a net positive. I think that it did bring more awareness 69 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:28.600 to this topic and it was a fun show. I just love Aidan Gillen 70 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.600 who plays Jalen Heinik and the other characters that are in the show. So 71 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:34.800 I think it was a fun show. I like the show. I'm looking 72 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:40.439 forward to a second season, and especially all this UFO stuff is a lot 73 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.839 of fun, So check it out. Moving on the Metro in the UK 74 00:05:44.000 --> 00:05:47.959 has a story that just posted today and this is an interview with Nick Pope. 75 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:54.399 Nick Pope, of course ran the mods UFO desk for a short period 76 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:59.079 of time. Now we've talked a lot about lately this Pentagon project looking into 77 00:05:59.160 --> 00:06:03.439 UFOs that was headed by Luis Elizondo. In ways, what Nick Pope did 78 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:08.360 was similar because he did look into UFO cases and was a government employee, 79 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:14.399 but they didn't do real hardcore investigations like a tip the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification 80 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.839 Program of the Pentagon instead, you know, it was very more light touching 81 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.480 on things. But Nick Pope has been a UFO researcher ever since because, 82 00:06:21.560 --> 00:06:25.600 much like Jay ellen Heinek, he entered a skeptic, but by the time 83 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.199 he left he thought, wow, there really is something to all of this. 84 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.519 Well, he pipes in on this story about a tip. The title 85 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:38.240 is Top Secret Government Investigation Probed Health Effects of UFO Encounters. So we do 86 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:43.279 know some of the things that they worked at on inside of this program, 87 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.480 not a lot, but some. One of the documents, or at least 88 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:50.680 headlines in the documents that came out, was related to human effects. Well, 89 00:06:50.759 --> 00:06:55.639 Nick is saying he knows a little bit about what they looked into, 90 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:00.639 and this quote in particular is interesting. I believe this was done, and 91 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:08.040 what he means by this is collecting of blood and DNA samples from encounter witnesses. 92 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:11.439 He says, I believe this was done in a way that disguise the 93 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.800 fact that this was for a US intelligence program, with witnesses being told that 94 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:20.240 they were participating in a scientific or academic study. So that's kind of interesting. 95 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:26.120 He's alleging that you know that we're kind of, you know, mis 96 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:30.959 representing themselves when they collected this this material. Now we don't know where he 97 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:35.120 gets this information from or why he believes this. In fact, the person 98 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:40.000 I'm interviewing today, this story just came out today after I interviewed Danny. 99 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:44.800 But Danny asked via Twitter and then we've done so again on Facebook. You 100 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.639 know what substantiates those claims? Why do you think this? So hopefully we'll 101 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:51.519 hear more from Nick about that. I'm sure I'll have some more information about 102 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:57.639 that by next week. So yeah, interesting piece of news there news Week. 103 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:07.199 Newsweek covered a really interesting article Russia's paranormal soldiers and military dolphin telepathy revealed 104 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:13.040 by Defense Ministry magazine. What So, what this is all about is that 105 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:16.000 there was a piece in a magazine called Army Collection, which is a credible 106 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:24.079 Russia defense ministry magazine. The title of this article was super Soldier for the 107 00:08:24.120 --> 00:08:28.879 Wars of the Future bomb. This is similar actually to a book that John 108 00:08:28.920 --> 00:08:33.279 Alexander wrote in the past. Because John Alexander, who we've interviewed on the 109 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.840 show many times in Army Intelligence worked on similar sort of things and one of 110 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.120 the stories that John Alexander and some of the others, including some of the 111 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:48.320 people involved with To the Stars Academy where Los Alessando is now working. The 112 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:52.200 gentleman who worked on a tip. He works with the scientist help put Off, 113 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:56.879 who used to work with remote viewing programs, which is essentially a psychic 114 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:03.120 program inside of our government that ended years ago. Some suspect that it's it's 115 00:09:03.159 --> 00:09:09.000 continuing on, just more secretly, but they were inspired to begin their program 116 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:13.000 because they heard the Russians were working on this sort of thing. So it's 117 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.240 got an incredibly interesting history. In fact, there is a new documentary out 118 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:22.399 called Third Eye Spies. That's what it's called, Third Eye Spies. Really 119 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:28.360 great documentary. The content is amazing following these programs, so check that out 120 00:09:28.440 --> 00:09:31.039 Third Eye Spies. Anyway, getting back to the story, that's what this 121 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.159 story is about, so I'd recommend you to take a look. How does 122 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.879 it work into UFOs and ETS. Well, what's interesting is that many of 123 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.679 the remote viewers in the past believe they had remote viewed aliens. In fact, 124 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.480 I touch on that in my story in the Project Bluebook thing, and 125 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.240 they believe that they they you know, whenever they remote viewed UFOs, they 126 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.320 saw aliens and stuff like that. So many of these guys believe in aliens. 127 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:03.039 Jim Mars, unfortunately he's passed away, but he has a book called 128 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.360 Psychic Spies where he refers to this. So actually it's called sy Spies where 129 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.519 he refers to you know, all of these beliefs from these people. So 130 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.360 really interesting stuff there. The son another UK Tabloyd has a story. TV 131 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:24.879 producer sues CIA scientist in bid to expose government UFO cover up and blows whistle 132 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:31.559 on mysterious anti gravity research project. So this is about Robert Kiviat. Many 133 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.840 of the UFO shows that you want to see on television have been produced by 134 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.200 Robert Kiviat. I know this gentleman. While I've talked to him on a 135 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.120 regular basis. He's calling. He's so interested in all of these stories. 136 00:10:43.120 --> 00:10:46.759 In fact, this story was written by Emma Perry. She's written a couple 137 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:52.600 of stories on me. But anyway, he is suing a gentleman called Ron 138 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.799 Pandolfi who's worked with the CIA on their alleged what is called Weird Desk. 139 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.720 Now it's kind of a not an official title, but in a title some 140 00:11:03.120 --> 00:11:05.799 a couple of people who've worked in the CIA gave to these cold cases that 141 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:11.320 were strange. But Robert Kiviat apparently was working with this guy on a project 142 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:18.559 and a program to on reverse technology, or I mean, on anti gravity 143 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.919 research, and Kiviat's disappointed. He says that, you know, he got 144 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:26.320 kind of screwed out of some money, so he's suing these guys over this 145 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:31.960 whole thing. He says he also wants to expose that the CIA has been 146 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:37.519 manipulating information related to the UFO phenomena, so really interesting. In fact, 147 00:11:37.559 --> 00:11:39.960 maybe we'll try to get Robert on now. Robert's the kind of guy you 148 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:43.600 can't get off the phone with him, you know, without talking to him 149 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:46.120 for an hour, because he just talks and talks and talks and talks. 150 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.639 So it'll be difficult when we interview him. I'm sure he'll just keep going 151 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:52.480 on and on and on, but it'll be great to get from him. 152 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:56.159 I guess from his mouth you know what he's talking about here. So I'll 153 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.799 work on getting an interview with Robert. But until then, you know, 154 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:03.320 you'll be able to check out this story in the Sun, also in Florida, 155 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:09.279 story in the Miami Herald. What if you are abducted by aliens, 156 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:15.320 this Florida insurance company has you covered. So this is an insurance company that 157 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:20.200 covers people who believe they've been abducted by aliens. You can get alien abduction 158 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.919 insurance and apparently they have paid out at least once or twice on this. 159 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:30.840 So interesting. A couple things that they have on here that they've covered. 160 00:12:30.879 --> 00:12:39.480 I guess they've covered Taylor Swift's legs and Jennifer Lowpez's a but allegedly so. 161 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:46.679 Of course, those are very high dollar important body parts that are culturally significant. 162 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:50.399 So there's big dollar signs attached to those, not literally, I don't 163 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:54.080 know. There may be some tattoos there that we're not aware of. But 164 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:58.720 yeah, so they are covering alien abduction. So you can read more about 165 00:12:58.720 --> 00:13:07.159 that in the Miami had also a story coming from KMTV news in Omaha. 166 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:13.039 UFO story revitalized after beer comic book comes out. So this gentleman essentially wanted 167 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.159 to write a comic book about UFOs. He looked into stories in Nebraska and 168 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:24.360 he found this gentleman, Herbert Shermer, who believed he had been abducted. 169 00:13:26.200 --> 00:13:30.840 He felt this was a very credible story. So he created a comic book 170 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:37.519 about this story. The Miami Herald also interviewed or I'm sorry. The KMTV 171 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.759 also interviewed some local UFO researchers who talked about how credible this case is, 172 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.279 so very interesting. All these people involved believe there was something to it. 173 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:54.639 Also, I guess a new beer came out this week called star Space dank 174 00:13:54.840 --> 00:14:00.639 Ipa that is related to these UFO researchers and UFO research in Nebra, So 175 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.559 that's what that's all about. I also included a link to the Omaha World 176 00:14:05.720 --> 00:14:11.679 Herald, which also has a story called a Nebraska cops alleged UFO encounter lives 177 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:16.159 on thanks to a graphic novel and a beer. So this story has a 178 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:20.080 little bit more information and some more pictures on that same story. So I 179 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:24.000 included two links to that story so you could get all the news that's out 180 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:31.320 there on that one. Moving on, bizarre West Auckland UFO sighting terrifies couple. 181 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.159 So this is an interesting sighting about these people in New Zealand. So 182 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:43.240 they say that they were on the beach when they saw strange lights in the 183 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.559 sky. They said it was the craziest experiences that they've ever had. They 184 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:54.759 posted their sighting on Reddit. Their tagline, I guess their handle was UFO 185 00:14:54.879 --> 00:15:00.480 mystery one two three, But they said that they saw these bright orange red 186 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:05.000 lights at the far end of the beach. This was apparently written by a 187 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:07.480 female. It says my boyfriend and I. I guess I shouldn't assume the 188 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:13.080 gender, but my boyfriend and I saw two bright orange red lights far on 189 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.159 the other end of the beach. In a matter of seconds, one of 190 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.320 the lights started moving at full speed in a straight line no more than two 191 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:22.879 hundred meters above the water, until it was directly in front of us. 192 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:28.480 The UFO had changed from having a red light to a bright white light somewhat 193 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:33.440 like a torch, shining directly at us. After two minutes, the strange 194 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:39.360 object moved a waflying incredibly fast and with perfect precision, until it disappeared. 195 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:43.000 But this wasn't the end. We were lying down looking at the stars for 196 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.840 a while, and then stood up to leave before realizing there were five of 197 00:15:46.919 --> 00:15:50.200 these things surrounding them in different areas on the beach. One of them was 198 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.360 flying up and down in another from side to side. The others were just 199 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:00.519 still switching between red and white spotlights. This was when we decided to leave 200 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:07.120 scared s less the poopless. They were scared poopless, the other word for 201 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.840 poopless. They fled the beach but couldn't escape the lights, is what they 202 00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:15.559 said. So they freaked out and they took off. And so a really 203 00:16:15.759 --> 00:16:19.960 interesting sighting here that got into the news. People are saying they could have 204 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:23.960 been Chinese lanterns, or they could have been this or that, so who 205 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:27.679 knows. You know what. This reminds me of two and I wish that 206 00:16:27.759 --> 00:16:30.159 I would have linked to it, but you know, I'll try to do 207 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:36.120 that in the show notes or I know, if you look at the open 208 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.639 mind UFO News. By the way, we do have a Facebook group. 209 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:45.919 It's a closed group called open mind UFO News. It's closed. The only 210 00:16:45.000 --> 00:16:48.120 reason it's closed is so we can kick out the trollers, so the people 211 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.320 that are being mean. Of course, we have a rule that debate is 212 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.600 very much welcome. People can debate all they want, but they have to 213 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:59.000 be civil with each other, you know, not be mean. Like the 214 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:03.519 Internet is so f of just extremely cruel and vile people. Well that's not 215 00:17:03.599 --> 00:17:07.559 the type of people we want in this form, and we have a lot 216 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.759 of really great people who are willing to not get personal when we're debating things. 217 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:15.920 You're talking about people. So that's why the group is closed. But 218 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.039 if you want to be part of the group, just go to Facebook, 219 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.519 go to the open mind gufo newsgroup. Asked to join, and usually within 220 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.119 twenty four hours, we'll get to you sometimes really soon and approve you and 221 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:29.799 you'll be able to get in there and read all the stories. So I 222 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:33.240 post all of these stories, Others post stories in there. There's a lot 223 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.200 of conversation that goes back and forth in there. But the reason I'm referring 224 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:42.200 to it is someone had posted a story recently about some of the sightings that 225 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:48.680 had occurred by Navy personnel. So if you remember last week we talked about 226 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:52.119 the History Channel show, there's going to be a History Channel show about to 227 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:57.559 the Star's Academy, ran by Tom DeLong, and of course all these intelligence 228 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:03.039 and the former important people Danny and I are going to be talking about this 229 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.640 in just a minute in the interview are part of this program. But we 230 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:12.039 don't know much about what lou Alezondo research regarding UFOs in a tip. So 231 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:17.759 this new History Channel series that's coming out in just a couple of months is 232 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:22.920 going to be going over some of those stories because according to Loue Alesondo, 233 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.079 and he told us this even just a couple of weeks ago in Alabama, 234 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:29.160 and he told me it was cool to share this that you know, this 235 00:18:29.279 --> 00:18:33.480 show is going to include a lot of these cases that we haven't heard yet 236 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:38.440 that were military cases, including more tic Tac cases. I'm assuming the Tiktac 237 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:42.599 cases, to be honest, I didn't don't know that we heard that specifically, 238 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:51.400 but other cases, including a case where there were allegedly observed several square 239 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:56.759 objects that seem to have kind of around aura around them and they moved in 240 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:00.519 strange ways. And the reason I bring this up is because these objects that 241 00:19:02.839 --> 00:19:07.680 they described seeing, it's kind of similar to this New Zealand sighting. And 242 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:14.160 somebody recently made a video that you know, kind of shows what those what 243 00:19:14.200 --> 00:19:18.400 that sighting look like, and that's posted in the open Mind UFO news group, 244 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:23.440 so you can see it there. However, you know, this sighting 245 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.640 in New Zealand also could have been a group of drones. I mean, 246 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:32.880 it doesn't say they heard anything, but I guess I think we need more 247 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:37.920 information to definitely rule out the drone possibility. You never know. Like I've 248 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:42.000 got one of these little drones, the Spark, and it's freaking awesome. 249 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:48.279 It flies so fast all over the place, and as an HD camera on 250 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.200 it, I love this thing. But you know, no doubt if I 251 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.039 flew that around on the beach, which I have not at night, but 252 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:56.759 if I were to fly it around on the beach at night, it probably 253 00:19:56.759 --> 00:20:00.720 would look like UFI. I have flown around in parks and stuff at night, 254 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:03.880 and it looks really weird knit zooms. Man. It goes really close, 255 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:07.079 and at night it's hard to tell how far something is from you. 256 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:14.880 So if something's close and it's moving very fast then and you assume that it's 257 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:17.960 far, of course, then it's going to give you the perception that it's 258 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:22.559 moving much faster than it actually is. So that's what's up with that next 259 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:27.200 story. A website called twenty four to seven Wall Street. So of course, 260 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:30.880 mostly they're covering news and tech and things that affect you know, the 261 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:36.599 economy. However, they have a story in here called States with the Most 262 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:41.839 UFO Sidings, and they have a list of different UFO sidings. They write 263 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.680 a little bit about UFOs at the beginning of this story and then they get 264 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:49.440 right into it, and essentially it's very long. They cover pretty much every 265 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:52.240 state and they talk about, you know, what are the states with the 266 00:20:52.279 --> 00:20:57.440 biggest sighting. They talk about their methodology to putting this list together, and 267 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:03.640 where they're referencing this information. They're referencing a book by Cheryl Costa. So 268 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.039 of course we've had her on the show. She actually won the Researcher of 269 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:11.319 the Year Award at the International UFO Congress for this book. But the book 270 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:18.920 is called the UFO Sightings Desk Reference United States of America twenty one to twenty 271 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:23.720 fifteen Unidentified Flying Objects, Frequency Distributions and Shapes. So it's a great book. 272 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.559 If you don't have it, I would highly recommend it. And she 273 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.880 did a great job reaching out to the media and getting a lot of attention 274 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:34.599 for this book. So here's still another example, even though the book's been 275 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:40.119 out almost a couple of years now, at least over a year and still 276 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:45.119 getting media attention. So she actually already does this. She already has her 277 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.599 own list of the top siding. So they must have talked to her and 278 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.279 gotten this information from her. But yeah, they list the states with the 279 00:21:52.319 --> 00:22:00.319 most UFO sightings, so that's really interesting story there. And then and let's 280 00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:04.119 see what else we got The Guardian, so this is another UK paper but 281 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:07.920 actually it's not a tabloid. It's funny because we hear so much from the 282 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.839 UK tabloids because they're so popular, and it seems we hear little from the 283 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:19.559 more credible news sources like the BBC or this one, the Guardian, and 284 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.960 of course they don't really cover some hard UFO stuff sometimes but not often. 285 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:30.880 This story is called from UFO Cults to nietzschee. John Gray picks the best 286 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.119 books on atheism and faith, and one of the books that they're referring to, 287 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:41.039 this is why we're talking UFOs is called when Prophecy fails, and they're 288 00:22:41.119 --> 00:22:47.839 kind of an examination of this UFO cult. And I don't personally like to 289 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:52.279 use that word much, call it as a negative connotation, and sometimes you 290 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:56.039 know it's warranted, but sometimes it's not. I mean, a religion is 291 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.359 to one person, you know, just like to anybody else, as long 292 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:04.799 as it's not a bad thing. But this was a group that predicted the 293 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:10.279 end of the world and we're wrong. And of course this happens a lot 294 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:12.319 in fact, you know, I think we get a lot of people predicting 295 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:17.680 the end of UFO secrecy and they're always wrong. But anyway, they review 296 00:23:17.759 --> 00:23:19.920 as Carlton kind of like, how did people deal with that? They were 297 00:23:21.319 --> 00:23:25.519 you know, they believed in this group and then they didn't come through. 298 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:27.960 How do people deal? How do they lose faith? That sort of thing. 299 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:32.599 So one of the five books is UFOs. And then finally there's a 300 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:37.519 story in my SA which is a San Antonio news site that says creepy, 301 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:41.960 scary UFO sightings reported in Texas in twenty nineteen. So they go over a 302 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:47.480 few Texas. They have a slideshow here of thirty five different stories. They 303 00:23:47.519 --> 00:23:51.559 really don't provide a lot of information. They got these stories from the National 304 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:56.279 UFO Reporting Center. But yeah, a little bit about some sightings from twenty 305 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:02.440 nineteen in the my SA A there. So that's the last link. So 306 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:07.079 those are all of the links to the news stories. So do check those 307 00:24:07.200 --> 00:24:10.279 out at Openminds dot tv. You'll see them on the front page, and 308 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:14.440 I also link to them in the show notes. No matter where you're listening, 309 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:19.200 whether that's a podcast or from my blog or from Open MINDSTV, or 310 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:23.400 let's see where else do I post it YouTube? So you know this podcast 311 00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:29.160 is all over the place. Wherever you'll see the link to the headlines and 312 00:24:29.200 --> 00:24:32.880 you'll be able to get links to all of these stories, so check them 313 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:37.160 out. But that's it for the news, So let's take a quick break. 314 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:41.720 If you're listening on the radio, you'll hear a commercial. Otherwise you'll 315 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.200 hear a short musical interlude, and then we'll be back with Danny Silva of 316 00:24:45.279 --> 00:25:11.519 the Silver Record. Stay tuned, Welcome back to Open Mind UFO Radio. 317 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:17.759 I'm your host, Alejandro Rojas, and I am very excited for the next 318 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:21.079 guest, Danny Silva. It's his first time on the show. Hello Danny, 319 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:27.039 Hello Alejandro. I'm so happy to be I've always been an example of 320 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:32.680 a class act, someone that everyone else can look up to in the field. 321 00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:37.039 And you handle yourself exactly how we try to handle ourselves. So thank 322 00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:41.359 you, well, thank you very much for saying that. That's very flattering. 323 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:44.640 I'm going to tear up a little bit here. No, thank you 324 00:25:44.759 --> 00:25:48.839 very much, and I'm excited to have you on because it's kind of neat. 325 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:55.640 I mean, really, it's you and you know, Joe UFO Joe 326 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:59.160 have kind of come out of the woodwork, and you've been inspired to create 327 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:06.000 these blogs and cover some of what's been going on lately. So I wanted 328 00:26:06.039 --> 00:26:11.400 to ask you, you know, what inspired you first to get into this 329 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:17.079 field and then to actually get involved in and get the blog up. So 330 00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:21.920 let's tackle the first one first. What inspired you to get into the whole 331 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.400 interested in UFO's in the first place. You know, I'm not sure. 332 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:30.160 Originally it was just really interesting to me growing up as a kid in the 333 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:36.119 nineties, and it was just something that was really amazing to me. And 334 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:44.240 then I started listening to Art Bell and then George Nori George Napp just religiously. 335 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:49.799 But then, obviously what happened was the December seventeen the article happened, 336 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:56.279 and I just kind of had to reevaluate everything. I wasn't sure, you 337 00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.160 know, about everything, and I believed it, but it was a whole 338 00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:06.640 new world that happened after that Times article and to the stars and all that 339 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.920 kind of thing. It was cool because I had heard about that story from 340 00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:15.039 Art Bell. He had posted it somewhere on social media, so I thought 341 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.160 that was kind of fitting. But since then, it's just I've been locked 342 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:26.279 in and I can't watch a movie or do anything else without feel like I'm 343 00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.480 wasting time. And there's just so much to take in. And I was 344 00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:34.279 already into it before then, but then just after that, it was just 345 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.720 a whole different me. And then I jumped on social media and I was 346 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:44.880 just kind of tweeting about it and things like that. People started asking me 347 00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:51.279 my opinion. And then I had some friends who wanted to start a blog, 348 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:55.880 and I'm not a writer or a journalist, and they kind of talked 349 00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:57.720 me into it. And at first I wasn't even using my real name, 350 00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:03.759 and they convinced me to use my real name, and now I'm kind of 351 00:28:03.759 --> 00:28:07.119 a public person with it. But now I am writing, and now I 352 00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.119 would be considered maybe an amateur journalist or doing some of those sort of things 353 00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:14.799 that I never thought I would be doing. But I just kind of got 354 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.960 thrown into it and now I'm here. Mm hmm. So now you're screwed 355 00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:22.519 because it sounds like you've got the bug like me. They said, that's 356 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:25.519 what happened to me, you know, a couple of decades or something to 357 00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:29.680 go just as compulsion, like you said, where you're always thinking, thinking 358 00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.000 about and you've you've got to get into it, no matter what you can 359 00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:36.240 do. And then I haven't been able to kick that feeling for ever, 360 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:42.440 So look forward to years and years of it. Yeah. Really, And 361 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.359 and it's it's not that I won't you know, ever do anything else, 362 00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:51.519 but it's just it's so important. And you hear people you know, saying 363 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:53.039 and how important it is, like Tom DeLong and they call it, what 364 00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:56.759 is it, like the greatest story ever or something along those lines, and 365 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.519 I kind of agree. And it just it affects all of us. People 366 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:06.319 act like it doesn't, but it really does affect everything. And I don't 367 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:11.000 know what else we could be doing to be changing the world and getting to 368 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:17.920 the bottom of some of these big questions. Now, your blog, What 369 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.200 inspired you to do a blog? I mean, did you see that there 370 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.960 was a kind of a gap of information or what really inspired you? What 371 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:29.440 did you think, Hey, you know, here's something that I can do 372 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.640 that others aren't doing well. Basically, like I was saying that people were 373 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.519 asking me to I never thought I would have, and then once I kind 374 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:44.319 of started doing it, I kind of changed my mindset. But also because 375 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:48.119 I wanted to know what the latest things were happening. I was so addicted 376 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:52.519 to finding out what was going on, and I wanted to have a place 377 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.640 where other people can go on the Internet to see some of this stuff. 378 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.039 And it's so quick moving and fast paced that it changes all the time and 379 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:04.559 consistently. I'm talking to people in my normal everyday life and they can't keep 380 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:10.960 up with it, and they're not obsessed. They got their lives and to 381 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.039 take care of and and so I'm just kind of trying to have a place 382 00:30:15.160 --> 00:30:18.240 on the Internet where people can just click on it and kind of find out 383 00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:23.759 what the latest thing is going on without sifting through all this information. And 384 00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:29.319 then I really just got hooked on reporting stories and coming up with some of 385 00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:34.160 my own stories even but generally I was just trying to inform people, and 386 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.599 by doing that, it also gives me access to find out more information for 387 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.119 myself. M M. Well, you've been doing a good job with that, 388 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:47.160 and that's kind of why I asked the question in that way, where 389 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:52.039 you are I think filling a gap which is wonderful because I mean, you 390 00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:55.400 know so many of us. Well, here's what I see has happen. 391 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.680 And here's why I now I get to tell you. Why I think you're 392 00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:04.359 so and what you're doing is so great is that there was really kind of 393 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:10.440 this. I think when that story New York Times story came out, there's 394 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:17.039 this really delineation between those who report the information that's out there and then those 395 00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:23.599 that speculate. And really it became apparent that the large percentage of people covering 396 00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:27.039 this sort of stuff on a regular basis wanted to do a lot of speculation. 397 00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.720 So of course you've got great stories from George Knapp, but very few 398 00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.400 others are just kind of sticking to the facts. There are some, but 399 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:41.359 what's great about you popping up here is that you're able to cover stories that 400 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.880 other people aren't covering. I mean, has there been a time where you 401 00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.400 kind of posted something and you felt great, You're like, nobody else has 402 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.680 done this, so I've kind of got a scoop here. Yeah, I 403 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.440 feel like I've had a bunch of scoops, and you know, I kind 404 00:31:56.440 --> 00:31:59.240 of got set up with some of the speculation also, And I'm not knocking 405 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:02.519 anyone for doing it and has a big it has a big place, but 406 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:07.640 me personally, I try not to, and maybe that is me falling back 407 00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.400 into more of an amateur journalist or whatever you would call it. I'm trying, 408 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.559 if you notice, in my blogs, I'm trying to use a lot 409 00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:16.400 of quotes, and I go by what other people are saying. I'm trying 410 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:21.200 not to come up with a lot of opinions on my own. I mean, 411 00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:24.599 I do have some, and I insert them in places, but it's 412 00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:30.079 just not my thing. My thing is more so reporting on these other important 413 00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:35.119 people, because you know, I'm trying to track them down. I do 414 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:40.079 what a lot of other prominent uphologists do, and they they have a list 415 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.119 of people and they watch them. Grant Cameron originally talks about this a lot, 416 00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.359 and he just has his list and he watches people and he listens to 417 00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.400 what they're saying. He watches all their interviews. I'm trying to reach out 418 00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:55.200 to as many people as possible and talk to them myself, and then I 419 00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:01.240 just kind of report on that and I try to quote them because they know 420 00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:05.200 what's going on. At the end of the day, I'm trying to find 421 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.880 out what's going on, but I'm not you know, inside and a lot 422 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.839 of these places, and you know, I wasn't a member of AI for 423 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:16.039 darn sure. So I'm trying to quote Louillsonder and other Two the Stars members 424 00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:21.759 and George Knapp and people with access because they know what's going on, and 425 00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:28.559 I'm trying to just put it together concisely for other people to follow. M 426 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.759 hm. And I you know what I because of course I am a journalist. 427 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:37.839 I love that. That's why I'm such a big fan of George Knapp. 428 00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.640 Sticking to the facts, and that's what's wonderful. Book about what you're 429 00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.440 doing, which seems to become natural to you. Because even when I'm writing 430 00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:47.480 a story, I may think, you know, or when I start to 431 00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.799 investigate, I'm like, I know what I'm gonna find. I'm gonna find 432 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.799 this or that, But so many times you find out no, I'm completely 433 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:59.200 wrong. You know the answer once I asked the questions or find the document 434 00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:02.400 or read the story, worries are different than I ever could have imagined. 435 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.679 So that's what's great about I think the way you're doing what you're doing, 436 00:34:07.800 --> 00:34:13.119 and then it's also a better resource for people like me, because you're referencing, 437 00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:20.400 you know, credible information. Yeah, and some of these blogs they 438 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.519 may look like, you know, I put them together quickly, but it 439 00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.840 takes a lot of time to sift through the interviews find the right quotes. 440 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.199 Some of these I'll be literally compiling information for months before I put it out. 441 00:34:30.519 --> 00:34:34.639 So I have like a list of things right now that I'm working on 442 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.639 at all times, and I'm compiling quotes and info and tidbits. And I 443 00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:44.119 get some good tips also from people. I get a lot of crazy stuff 444 00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:46.199 also in my inbox that I just can't report on, or that I'm not 445 00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:52.320 interested in reporting on. But I'm blessed to have other people that I can 446 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:59.079 call upon, like my friend Juliana Marinkovich. She is great and he has 447 00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:04.599 so much information. He's like an archivist basically, so I can ask him 448 00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.320 if I need something. And I have all these other people like James I 449 00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:13.199 and Doley and other friends of mine Twitter user Jay, and they just helped 450 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.719 me out. And I think we're all making waves now, or at least 451 00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.559 we're helping. I think that's what we're trying to do is help. We're 452 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.559 not trying to tear anyone else down, and we're trying to move this thing 453 00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:32.000 forward and support people that we think are really making a difference, whether that's 454 00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:38.719 to the Stars Academy or yourself or doctor Diana Posta or people like that that 455 00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:44.920 are just really I think, changing everything right now. Mm hmm. So 456 00:35:45.039 --> 00:35:47.000 let's get into some of your stories, because what's great about a lot of 457 00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:51.400 the headlines that you're using. They're short and simple, and they're to the 458 00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:55.159 point, to the point that you're making. For instance, a tip did 459 00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:59.800 not end is one of your stories. And just for those people out there 460 00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.960 who might be new to the show, a tip is this kind of Pentagon 461 00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:09.519 program that we just found out about December twenty seventeen through the New York Times. 462 00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:15.639 Luckily I had a little insight into that. But you know, that's 463 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.559 the story you were talking about that broke that really got you into it. 464 00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.000 But a lot of the media because in that original story, you know, 465 00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:24.400 the DoD said the funding had ended, and they were under the impression that 466 00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:30.320 the program had ended. But it hasn't end. At least we've heard from 467 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:35.719 several insiders right that the program's still continuing. Right. You know, Lou 468 00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.199 said that from the beginning ever since the New York Times story. And I 469 00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:45.360 understand why it's hard for some of these media outlets because they'll read maybe a 470 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.199 piece of the New York Times article, or they're not soaking it in or 471 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.639 they're not eating it and sleeping it like we are every day. But they'll 472 00:36:53.719 --> 00:36:59.159 end up quoting one part of the of the story, like the Pentagon spokespeople 473 00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.239 or whatever it was who said it ended, that they're not reading the next 474 00:37:01.280 --> 00:37:07.400 paragraph, or lusays it doesn't end. They're not listening to these other numerous 475 00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:10.440 interviews with Lou saying it didn't end, or other people like George Napp and 476 00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:15.840 Jeremy Corbel saying it didn't end. And yeah, and a lot of it 477 00:37:15.920 --> 00:37:20.039 is really confusing. There is still pieces of it that I'm confused about, 478 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:25.199 like the asset a tip. How they basically I feel like they morphed into 479 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.400 asat may have like ended, but then also morphed into a tip. But 480 00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:34.039 that's very confusing stuff. It's real technical. But yeah, a tip didn't 481 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:40.719 end. There's been multiple statements. Now, Alezano did say at the SCU 482 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.159 conference that he basically hinted that it may not have the same name, so 483 00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:49.360 it may not be called a TIP, but there's still this program that kind 484 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:55.079 of compiles military sightings or data and and puts it in one place. And 485 00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.519 I mean, let's be honest, I don't think anyone has ever believed that 486 00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:06.039 there wasn't a government UFO program going on so basically throughout time. So just 487 00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:09.079 the fact that you know there would still be going with one going on still, 488 00:38:09.239 --> 00:38:13.199 you know, it makes sense. It does make a lot of sense. 489 00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:15.639 And of course, you know, we've heard from people like Paul Deine 490 00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:20.159 in Australia. I've had him on the show and people could look up his 491 00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:25.679 website and he has been following really following that thread in those documents. What's 492 00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:31.079 interesting too with Paul Deine is that he has discovered there have been departments that 493 00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.400 have been getting some files on UFO reports, even though they claim, you 494 00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:38.039 know, they're not looking into it. And he seemed to also indicate that 495 00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:44.320 what you just refer to, that these programs changed their names periodically, and 496 00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:49.239 I had forgotten about Lou saying that in Alabama that yeah, it might not 497 00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:52.519 be called a TIP anymore, which I think is the first time he said 498 00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:54.440 that, and which is kind of a clue for us that you know, 499 00:38:54.519 --> 00:39:00.360 I think this is the way they keep people from finding them. All of 500 00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.840 us are putting these foyas out there for a tip, and we're not going 501 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.079 to get any of this new stuff because that's not their name. Yeah, 502 00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:10.119 and you know, Paul Deine basically broke the ass up story, which was 503 00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:15.239 huge. One thing I've found that every once in a while I'll write a 504 00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:19.800 blog and it'll be kind of like a breaking story or a new info. 505 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.960 Then I'll have all these people like privately message me, Hey, I wasn't 506 00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.480 allowed to talk about this. Now that you wrote about it, it's in 507 00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:29.199 the public realm and I can talk about it. So that's basically what seemed 508 00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:32.480 like happened with when Paul Deine came out with the OSCEP thing, and then 509 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:37.000 since then we've had a flood of information about it, and we've had the 510 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:43.280 dird list come out with from the George map and all this other stuff. 511 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.840 So Paul did an amazing service by coming out with the oscept stuff for sure, 512 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.440 mm hmm. Yeah. And as soon as he did that, and 513 00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:52.360 it's funny, I could, I really feel like it inspired it. Then 514 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:58.679 George came out with a bunch of leak documents about as APP and for those 515 00:39:58.719 --> 00:40:00.800 of you who aren't aware it might be new to this also, which there's 516 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:06.480 so many acronyms, and you can correct me. What that was the Advanced 517 00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:13.719 Aerospace Weapons System Application Program. Yeah, and it essentially was the first program 518 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.800 which got the original funding, which so the New York Times was a little 519 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:21.760 off on that that the program was actually called ASAP at the time. And 520 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:28.880 then that's the program that essentially these religious factions in the government closed down. 521 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:32.280 We learned that from George Knapp, but then lew has confirmed that and written 522 00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:39.840 about that since. But like you just said, that transition period of is 523 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:46.119 ASAP A TIP is a TIP just another name for ASAP. Is are these 524 00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:52.039 different programs? How did that you know, transition happen? We don't have 525 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:57.159 those answers and we have and you know, John Greenwald, someone who's pointed 526 00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.679 this out, conflicting information from the people involved on all of that, but 527 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.280 so that's kind of a gray area still. Yeah, it's some of the 528 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:13.400 information I feel that's conflicting from the to the stars members or people that were 529 00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:16.000 involved with ATIP. To me, it isn't super big deals. It's it's 530 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:22.840 little things. I think the big contradictions probably have came from the Pentagon spokespersons, 531 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:28.199 and you know, they've proven over and over again that we can't necessarily 532 00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:32.760 believe what they're saying. That this isn't exclusive to the UFO field. That 533 00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.880 you know, there's spokespeople that make these statements and they end up not being 534 00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.280 accurate. And it's not just with UFOs, it's with a lot of different 535 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.840 things in politics and the government, and I'm not sure who ends up being 536 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:50.320 held accountable for that. It's almost like, yeah, they can blast off 537 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:55.239 these statements and then there's like no repercussions if they're incorrect. But especially with 538 00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.760 you know, Luke consistently highlighting that a lot of this stuff is FOYA exempt 539 00:42:01.199 --> 00:42:06.679 and the foyas are important, but at the same time that can't be our 540 00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:13.000 sole source of information. But so I'm not knocking anyone for doing that, 541 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.599 but uh, we just we need to listen to the actual people that were 542 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:21.079 involved in the in the programs themselves. Yeah, I think you're right, 543 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.320 you know, And I think one thing that gets lost with people a little 544 00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:30.079 bit is that, for instance, we didn't hear about as app from lou 545 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:37.360 uh who of course ran a tip until the information was made public. And 546 00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.039 he said that a few times. So these dirts, which are these reports 547 00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:47.280 that were these written for the as APP program by physicists and and other you 548 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:52.679 know, researchers, those he couldn't talk about either until that that came out 549 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.760 as well. And and he said over and over again he not only is 550 00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:01.960 some of it not cleared to be shared, but some of it belongs to 551 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:08.239 departments which he are still his colleagues and friends, and he's not gonna step 552 00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:14.960 on their toes and you know, release anything that they wouldn't want him to 553 00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:20.679 release, even if he could technically do it. So you know, it's 554 00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.000 got to come from someone else. And luckily George Napp is getting material from 555 00:43:24.159 --> 00:43:29.840 straight from Washington, as he's written about and which is sharing a lot of 556 00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.360 this. So and I will say, I've been doing some real big digging. 557 00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.599 So I do have on the horizon some more information about those questions about 558 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:47.519 a tip and ASAP and how that all happened coming forth here soon. But 559 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.599 again it is kind of getting into the weeds because the big stuff, you 560 00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:57.239 know, we have these other people talking about, Yeah, you know, 561 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:05.800 one thing that was another tradiction was the in the letter to John McCain and 562 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:09.840 his committee, they asked for what was it all products produced by a tip 563 00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.079 and they were sent the thirty eight dirds. Well, we know from hearing 564 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.880 George Knapp and Harry Reid that that is inaccurate, that the dirds were just 565 00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:24.519 the icing on the cake for as far as osset plant. Another thing that's 566 00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:28.920 seemingly being misreported. And I don't blame them because I kind of just figured 567 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.599 this out last night. I think now I can say this and be more 568 00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:36.960 confident about it. But you know, the New York Times reported that the 569 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.679 twenty two million was for a tip, and then so we've been wondering, 570 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.840 and then we heard that it was for os apps. We've been wondering, 571 00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.920 was there another twenty two million for a tip? But after listening to George 572 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:49.920 NAP's interview last night on space Stole Radio, it sounds like definitely the twenty 573 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:52.199 two million was for us APP. There was no twenty two million for a 574 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.320 tip. So, you know, this stuff is just becoming more clear and 575 00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:02.679 clear, and sometimes it's taking fifteen in to really get that right exactly, 576 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:07.159 you know. And fortunately I've had the chance to talk to Lou, but 577 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:14.519 it's when you ask a set of questions that just of course creates more questions 578 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.000 and uh. And so it's this back and forth for many, many times. 579 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:22.320 And sometimes we don't have access to these people except for on occasion, 580 00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:27.599 so it takes time to collect this information, and it takes time for them 581 00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:31.400 to get in front of an interviewer who is savvy enough to ask the good 582 00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:37.599 questions. Yeah, no doubt, you know. And and we love these 583 00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.800 interviews, and I think there's they're going to be probably doing a lot more, 584 00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:46.480 probably around the TV show or after it. But you know, that's 585 00:45:46.519 --> 00:45:50.440 another thing I try to do is I just sift through these interviews and I 586 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:53.400 listen to them over and over and over again, and it's funny Lou or 587 00:45:53.440 --> 00:45:58.079 someone else they'll say something and people kind of pass it over, and then 588 00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:01.800 months later I'll highlight that quote from them and it's like a whole new story 589 00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:05.559 all over again because people passed over that quote and they didn't have it in 590 00:46:05.599 --> 00:46:07.760 context. Mm hm. So I think that's something I'm able to do with 591 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.280 the website, put these quotes together that people are passing over or they just 592 00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.559 don't understand at the time. M hmm. Yeah, you know. The 593 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:19.480 other hard part is getting into the weeds. You mentioned this a bit too, 594 00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:22.239 and I think you're right, is that a lot of it is so 595 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:24.639 complicated. You know. I had John Alexander on that too long ago, 596 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:30.440 and he talked about how complicated and just almost you know, to the point 597 00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:34.880 of being silly, that the bureaucracy and the structures are when it comes to 598 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:38.239 the government. So I don't think we're ever going to find out the minutia 599 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:43.800 that a lot of people are scrambling for for you know, what department was 600 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.159 this and who did this person report to? Blah blah blah. We're probably 601 00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:51.519 never going to get that stuff because it's just their secrecy and there's probably very 602 00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.800 few people who understand. So I think some of these discrepancies really and I 603 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.360 don't think we can really personally beat them up too much about this. Is 604 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.360 they just don't know. They're taking their best. Guess. I think lou 605 00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:06.440 probably knows the best he was an administrator, but the other guys are just, 606 00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:08.159 well, here's what I think it is, and you know, little 607 00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.960 do they know people are going to hold them to it, And you know, 608 00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:19.880 go crazy if they're they're offha bit. Not and not every DIRD author, 609 00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.239 which was the Defense Intelligence Reference Documents not. I've spoken to some of 610 00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.840 those scientists and authors, not all of them, just a couple of them, 611 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.480 but a lot of them don't didn't know what was one hundred percent going 612 00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.760 on. They were doing their research and submitting it and they didn't have you 613 00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.360 know, access and clues into as App or Bass or any of these people. 614 00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:43.519 And I can't speak for all of them, that's just a couple, 615 00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.639 but I found that interesting. You know, they were kind of doing their 616 00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:52.639 thing and they didn't have this big time access. That is another awesome piece 617 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.320 of information. That is a really really good point. Also, and we 618 00:47:57.360 --> 00:47:59.719 only have a minute, so maybe we'll just start into this just for a 619 00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:02.639 second. But here's another story that you're covering that I don't think anybody else 620 00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:07.159 has that. We'll talk more about this after the break. But you wrote 621 00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:13.880 about how to the Stars has a new advisor, Chris Herndon, Right, 622 00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.679 Yeah, Tom DeLong announced that on Instagram, and we don't know a whole 623 00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:25.360 lot about him. He's made some comments on Twitter, and I think one 624 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.039 or two people have been able to contact him. But basically, you know, 625 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:34.079 he's this white house guy and to me, it sounds like he's going 626 00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:40.119 to be another link to the stars in DC. So that's valuable. Mm 627 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:44.719 hmm. That's really exciting. So we'll talk a little bit more about that 628 00:48:44.800 --> 00:48:47.519 once we come out of the break, But just to remind people some more 629 00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:53.320 here because we've introduced now another acronym. To the Stars or TTSA is the 630 00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:58.559 group ran by rockstar Tom DeLong, with a lot of officials that now that 631 00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:02.079 lou Elizondo has left the do O D and the Pentagon, he is now 632 00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:07.559 working with Tom DeLong and these gentlemen at to the Stars and they're all very 633 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:14.079 high level, including apparently this gentleman Chris Herndon, who just joined the team. 634 00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:15.400 So we'll get into that after the break. We got to take a 635 00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.800 quick break here. If you're listening on a radio station, then you'll hear 636 00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.599 a commercial. For the rest of you, you will hear a short musical 637 00:49:22.719 --> 00:50:09.480 interlude and then we'll be right back with mister Danny Silva. Welcome back to 638 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:15.079 Open Mind UFO Radio. This is your host, Alejandro Rojas, and we 639 00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:22.079 are with Danny Silva of the Silver Record I've referred to his blog several times 640 00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.719 in the last few weeks, so you've got to check out silver record dot 641 00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.800 com. And I'm very excited to have him here. And you're covering and 642 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.639 you're looking at stuffs the others of us are either missing or just don't have 643 00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.840 time to look at. And one of those we are just talking about is 644 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:42.440 this new member of to the Stars, Chris Herndon. And is there anything 645 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.400 else more you could tell us about him? I don't know a whole lot 646 00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:51.199 about it. You know. I did a blog called UFO Databases, and 647 00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.239 this is me speculating, and I noticed that he had all this tech background 648 00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.519 and security background, technology security background with the White House, so I just 649 00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:05.280 kind of speculated, maybe he's helping out with some of this UFO databased stuff. 650 00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:07.679 I really have no idea. That could be one hundred percent long. 651 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:10.039 You know what, It's good speculation in that, you know, that's what 652 00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.440 lou was supposed to do originally, but of course, as we've seen his 653 00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.719 kind of role seems to have expanded. They kind of, like, like 654 00:51:17.800 --> 00:51:22.960 he said in Alabama, begrudgingly having to being forced into being a spokesperson. 655 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:28.960 But also he's out there leading a lot of the investigations apparently, so it 656 00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.880 would make sense that they would need more help to help BLU out with that 657 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:39.280 security digital security type of area. Yeah, and the databases themselves are just 658 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:43.800 like this huge story. I mean, it's basically when you say database, 659 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.840 basically meaning everything that a tip came up with or everything else that came up 660 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.719 with. I mean, it's somewhere everything Bass came up with or other private 661 00:51:52.760 --> 00:52:00.239 individuals like Robert Bigewell. So it basically means we want to see the roots 662 00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:05.280 of their labor and it's somewhere. It's in these probably highly secured computers somewhere. 663 00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:08.679 And if and to the Stars is not talking about making one called vault, 664 00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:14.159 so that'll just be you know, huge, and if there's public access 665 00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.199 to it, it could be a massive game changer. Mm hm. So 666 00:52:17.800 --> 00:52:22.320 another piece of information, oh, and getting back to that really quickly is 667 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.199 that, you know, some people have kind of criticized move on, we're 668 00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:30.440 working with that to the Stars, but this is an example where it's a 669 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:35.159 great thing if they're working with to the Stars, because then they can help 670 00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.440 each other with these databases, which has always been a struggle for Mofon. 671 00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:46.320 Yeah, you know, I think Moufon has the numbers. I don't get 672 00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:51.199 too far into a lot of the Moufon stories. I know some people over 673 00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:54.159 there, but I'm not super reversed on it. But I was excited to 674 00:52:54.239 --> 00:53:00.920 hear that interview with Jan Harzen and Lou on the coast of George and Apple 675 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.280 last year. That was cool. So I think anyone that they can get 676 00:53:04.360 --> 00:53:07.760 kind of on their side, especially a giant organization with all these people, 677 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:14.760 is going to help them. So here's another great story that you've got that 678 00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:16.960 I don't see a lot of other people paying attention to. Another one. 679 00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:21.920 I'd love to get to appet For me, it's great because then I can 680 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.719 use your stuff as a reference. But the Navy UFO event took place off 681 00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:30.119 the coast of Florida and Virginia. So yeah, this is not getting a 682 00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:34.079 lot of news yet. I think it will. I think it will be 683 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:38.599 part of the History Channel show or at least some release of information in the 684 00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:44.400 future, is what I hear. But tell us about that, you know 685 00:53:44.480 --> 00:53:49.039 everyone, Ever since the gimbal video was released, it shocked everybody, and 686 00:53:49.119 --> 00:53:51.880 a lot of people confuse it with the tic tech mimics video. The tic 687 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.159 Tech one didn't have audio. The gimbal video had the audio where they said 688 00:53:55.159 --> 00:54:00.840 it was rotating. I also did a story about how maybe that rotation could 689 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:05.920 match up with some of the stuff Bob Bazaars talking about or other people. 690 00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:10.440 I think that rotation is very important. It's for the propulsion that possibly at 691 00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:16.440 least and then there's all these other rumors circulating. Another researcher, I look 692 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:22.280 up to Keith Basterfield. He heard that from his sources that there's at least 693 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:25.760 five gimbal videos. I think that that's probably accurate, that there's a bunch 694 00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.679 of different ones. One of them is probably Go Fast. It was probably 695 00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:37.159 from the same event. And but for the New York Times story, they 696 00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.599 released two videos, but To the Stars is released three overall. That is 697 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:45.000 a tik tak video from the NIMET, the gimbal video you're referring to, 698 00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:46.679 which we don't have a lot of information about, the other two, and 699 00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:50.960 then there's one called Go Fast, which we also don't have a whole lot 700 00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:55.400 of information about. Yeah, and since then, you know, everyone has 701 00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:00.679 been trying to track it down, figure out what's going on with it. 702 00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:04.039 A lot of information was released about the Nimts, but the gimble has been 703 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:07.280 a lot more mysterious. My friend Dave Batty, who did the Nimts encounters, 704 00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.559 he's been getting with a lot of military witnesses. They're trying to track 705 00:55:10.599 --> 00:55:15.599 down people that were involved with the gimbal. They think it might have been 706 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:22.000 involved with the USS Roosevelt And basically we've heard that it was off the East 707 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.440 coast. That's all we knew. Then we started to hear it was off 708 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.760 of possibly off of Florida. We didn't know that. And then I was 709 00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:35.679 listening to an interview that George Knap was conducting. It was like three in 710 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:38.280 the morning. I was half asleep, and then I heard him say Virginia, 711 00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.360 and that was totally new information as far as I was concerned. So 712 00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.199 I jumped on the computer and started typing it up and didn't sleep at all 713 00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.079 that night. But so that was new and since he said Virginia. Eric 714 00:55:52.159 --> 00:56:00.840 Davis has also said Virginia to Eric Klukes during their interview Eric Davis, who's 715 00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:05.760 Who's a legend and another thing, Doctor Eric Davis said about the gimbal that, 716 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.760 as far as I'm concerned, I think was all new information was that 717 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:14.519 there was tic TACs involved because in the gimbal video it looks like a saucer. 718 00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:21.800 David Fraber and Jeremy Corbel have also talked about these squares inside circles or 719 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:27.880 a square inside of a aura, like a circular aura, and they refer 720 00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.840 to them as scouts. So we knew that shape was there. We knew 721 00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:37.320 probably the saucer shape was there from the gimbal video that was rotating the Go 722 00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:40.199 Faster video. You normally you can't really make out of shape very well. 723 00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.119 And now Eric Davis also said there's tic TACs, So this gimbal thing is 724 00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:51.440 amazing. Lews has said there's a fleet. Also, the pilot speaking says, 725 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:53.199 look on the ASA, there's a whole fleet of them. So this 726 00:56:53.239 --> 00:57:00.760 has potential to be equally or more important than the Themos encounter. I just 727 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.719 keep asking myself how many more of these is a going to take? Because 728 00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:08.519 the Limty encounter was amazing and it changed everything. But at the same time, 729 00:57:08.960 --> 00:57:12.480 the public general public has kind of been sleeping on it, like it 730 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.679 kind of went away. We haven't been We've been talking about it every day 731 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:19.679 to death, but you know, it hit the news and it kind of 732 00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:23.159 went away. But how many more of these is it going to take? 733 00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:29.679 And this may be one of the biggest ones ever. And you know, 734 00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:34.440 there may be links with water. I've been following that story as far as 735 00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:37.960 oceans and things like that. But this gimbal story is going to be huge. 736 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:43.760 And there's been rumors consistently that witnesses will be coming out kind of similar 737 00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:45.800 to the niemts, and I only can hope that that happens, and I 738 00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:51.760 hope we get more information maybe some of the other videos during the to the 739 00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:55.920 Stars show. Yeah, I think we will. I mean, lou has 740 00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.559 said, and I hope this is public and I'm pretty su sure what. 741 00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:07.280 Yeah, it's definitely said that there will be more cases released, including in 742 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.400 the History Channel show, some of them better than nimets, which, of 743 00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:15.159 course, like you said, really puts us back in our seat because NIMTS 744 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:22.320 is extraordinary, but to have cases that are better is like wow. And 745 00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:31.639 like you said, some incidents that include multiple objects. So, and this 746 00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:35.880 is what's really great about you guys. You know, people paying attention to 747 00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.360 everything people are saying because now we have more information that you know, this 748 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:44.719 could be off of Florida or Virginia or at least these incidents have occurred in 749 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:50.199 those areas, and if they're mentioning them, it's likely that there is some 750 00:58:50.280 --> 00:58:58.400 pretty good documentation that also supports those cases, right, And you know, 751 00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:04.320 just hearing the pilot's talk and seen the video, you would think people would 752 00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:07.800 be more amazed by it, you know, and then people are still trying 753 00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:10.119 to say it's a bird or whatever they're saying, or it's a smudge on 754 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:15.599 the screen, and it's crazy. So I think when the show comes out 755 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:19.199 and we get some of this extra data like we got with the Limits, 756 00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:22.960 it's going to smack some people in the face that haven't believed these things are 757 00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:28.000 real. I think you're right because the other thing that we have not gotten 758 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:34.159 is who has analyzed the videos. Who inside of the military, whether that 759 00:59:34.199 --> 00:59:39.079 be at the DoD or you know, someone at the Pentagon Lou was able 760 00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:44.360 to get to look at it, or someone inside the Navy we don't know, 761 00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:47.400 or the Marines because some of these were spided by Marines, we don't 762 00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:54.880 know. And it changes from I'm a video analyst at that point too. 763 00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:02.519 Now I have to critique the investigation that was done that I can't even see 764 01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:06.559 yet by the Navy or somewhat. I mean, you have to now, 765 01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.840 because you're talking about someone who has expertise that really beyond yours. You have 766 01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.440 to counter what they have discovered, and we don't even have the information to 767 01:00:15.519 --> 01:00:20.039 go there yet. So I agree with you that it's a little premature. 768 01:00:20.760 --> 01:00:24.679 It's worth looking at, but to be definitive, is I feel like you 769 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:30.920 premature. One thing I noticed that was really interesting to me, and it 770 01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.400 took me listening to an Eric Davis interview with George Napp I almosto listened to 771 01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.480 it fifteen twenty times, and I was going back recently listening to it, 772 01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:43.719 and he said that there was thirty six investigations into the nimts. Wow. 773 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.840 At first I was thinking, was he confusing it with the thirty eight dirds, 774 01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.320 But no, he wasn't. He was talking about the thirty six investigations 775 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.719 just into the nimets alone. So it sounds like when these things are happening, 776 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:58.159 you know, we do hear that maybe they're just getting put in a 777 01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.800 drawer and forgotten about, and that maybe happening also, But it does sound 778 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:06.800 like there's a lot of resources going into these investigations and analyzing what's happening. 779 01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.679 Mm hm, and they seem to be widely known. Robert powtows this story 780 01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:15.039 about when he finally got to talk to someone, you know, about getting 781 01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:19.320 some information about the TIC tac. He mentioned the word tiktak and the guy 782 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.840 was like, oh, the tic TACs. I know what you're talking about. 783 01:01:22.039 --> 01:01:23.360 You know, a guy in the Navy, just some random dude, 784 01:01:23.440 --> 01:01:32.039 and he was aware of these UFO sightings. Yeah. I only can imagine 785 01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:36.760 what else is going to come out about this. Eric Davis also said that 786 01:01:36.800 --> 01:01:39.159 there was TIC tech you know events. I think one interview he said Middle 787 01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:43.360 East, another interview he said Asia. But I mean, these tic TACs 788 01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:47.519 are probably getting seen all over the world, and the shapes alone of these 789 01:01:47.559 --> 01:01:53.039 craft, the differences in the shapes is just extremely amazing. Lou at one 790 01:01:53.039 --> 01:02:00.760 point said that people in the know probably thought that the different shape were because 791 01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.960 of different functions of the craft. But I think once some of that comes 792 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:08.000 out, or I hope it does, it's going to be a really really 793 01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:13.079 big deal. Mm hmm. That's so cool. So you had mentioned also 794 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.239 because a lot of these are over the ocean, these cases that we're talking 795 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:22.480 about. And so your latest blog is UFOs in water, which are also 796 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:28.920 called USO is unidentified submerged objects. So what was kind of the stuff you 797 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:34.119 wanted to share in that blog? Basically, I've I've heard these comments. 798 01:02:34.159 --> 01:02:37.599 I heard lou in Italy and one of the questions from the crowd, they 799 01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:43.519 said, you know what, I don't remember exactly how the question was stated, 800 01:02:43.559 --> 01:02:46.320 but you know what were some of the the trends, and he said 801 01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:53.519 nuclear and water, but not necessarily together. We've seen the documentary most people 802 01:02:53.559 --> 01:03:04.239 have. I't remember what it's called now, nukes in oh u Utiful, 803 01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.760 that's right. And you know there was the book written UFOs and Water a 804 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:12.880 while ago. But this seems like a really really big deal. And then 805 01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:16.599 you know the Niemens was over water. All these other encounters were over water. 806 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.880 I don't know if that's we can dispeculate basically why that could be. 807 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:27.079 We don't know. There was the Ogwoodela. I think I'm pronouncing that right 808 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.079 in Puerto Rico, and you know that might if that thing is real, 809 01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:36.519 then that's as important as maybe the Nimits and gimbal. I would love to 810 01:03:36.559 --> 01:03:39.960 see someone really confirm that one hundred percent as real from the government. The 811 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.800 SCU did a great job with the report on it, and they definitely think 812 01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:49.159 it's real. But it would be great if it was also just kind of 813 01:03:49.239 --> 01:03:52.719 confirmed by lou or someone else. Maybe they didn't take a look at it. 814 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.599 I don't know, or maybe it's classified and sensitive, but it just 815 01:03:55.599 --> 01:04:01.199 seems like over and over again, these water instances are popping up. And 816 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:06.400 then what really did it was Tom Delong's Instagram post. He said, I 817 01:04:06.440 --> 01:04:11.440 got it right here. Who here wants to meet up and talk about how 818 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:15.679 a few years ago and unidentified craft was underwater and pinned against the North Atlantic 819 01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:20.159 coast by multiple nuclear attack submarines for over a week. So when he has 820 01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:24.559 a lot of hot takes on his social media, but when he said that, 821 01:04:25.119 --> 01:04:28.039 we all freaked out. I only can hope that that's going to be 822 01:04:28.199 --> 01:04:34.039 included into the show. If they can approve that or just talk about that, 823 01:04:34.119 --> 01:04:36.000 I think it's going to be a big deal. I mean, we 824 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:42.320 know about uflus in water, I mean in the air, and you know, 825 01:04:42.360 --> 01:04:44.880 obviously people think about him in space, but now if people start thinking 826 01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.719 about him in the waters, going to be more fuel on the fire, 827 01:04:48.079 --> 01:04:53.400 get more people interested. What's exciting about all of this too, especially like 828 01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.159 with all the things that you're mentioning, all of these things that we're talking 829 01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:03.039 about. Are the situation so fluid, So we're receiving little bits of information 830 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:10.079 on a regular basis really about all of this, and we know that large 831 01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:14.760 amounts of information are forthcoming, especially when it comes to the History Channel show. 832 01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:19.599 So all of this is unraveling, and that's what's really exciting. That's 833 01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:26.360 why I think that there's no need to be impatient that if you're if you're 834 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:30.639 paying attention, there's a lot going on. And again that's another great service 835 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:35.039 that your blog serves is that you know, if other people aren't catching it, 836 01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:40.280 like me or others, George or you know, when we're not doing 837 01:05:40.320 --> 01:05:45.639 anything, you're doing stuff and you're sharing more information that tidbits that are get 838 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.559 out and others. Of course, Juliano is great, he's following all of 839 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:54.360 these interviews and everything. Ufo Joe, who were actually going to have on 840 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.639 the show next week, is transcribing a lot of this stuff in these interviews. 841 01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:01.480 So there's a really Some people have said, oh, we're not fighting 842 01:06:01.480 --> 01:06:04.559 out anything out you know, it's so boring, and it's like, are 843 01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:11.280 you kidding? There's tons of information coming out, There's stuff everywhere. It 844 01:06:11.320 --> 01:06:14.559 does kind of feel like we're calm before the storm. As far as with 845 01:06:14.639 --> 01:06:17.599 the show, we've all been kind of foaming at the mouth because we heard 846 01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:21.639 these rumors that there was going to be a March announcement or an April announcement, 847 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:27.079 and it just really seems like everything is writing on the show now. 848 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.280 Not that there's massive amounts of pressure, which I think there probably is, 849 01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:35.840 but I'm confident that they're going to deliver. This really seems like it, 850 01:06:35.880 --> 01:06:38.880 and it's only going to be six episodes. I don't know how they're going 851 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:43.079 to pack everything into the six, but maybe also the show will be this 852 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:47.400 the jumping off point. And you know, there's so much stuff going on 853 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:50.679 behind the scenes that we don't know about. I only focus on public comments, 854 01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:57.440 and I only can imagine or speculate on what's happening behind the scenes with 855 01:06:57.559 --> 01:07:02.840 the government with some of these briefings, with these big closed door talks about 856 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:09.360 trying to get people to come forward. George Knapp yesterday said that maybe one 857 01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:13.920 day a more prominent politician than Harry Reid would come out and talk about it, 858 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.800 because right now, Harry Reid seems to have been the biggest ever in 859 01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:20.360 my mind at least. But I only can imagine what would happen if someone 860 01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:25.360 else came out. You know that we always have rumors about other politicians being 861 01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:30.280 involved, but you know, that might be a huge deal. Or what 862 01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:35.199 if someone came out and said that they were an experiencer that was in the 863 01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:39.440 high position. I mean, I think it would change everything. Someone that 864 01:07:39.719 --> 01:07:44.639 everyone trusts, that you know, you can't just kind of like shake off 865 01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.840 as being a crazy person if they came out and said that they were an 866 01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:53.440 experiencer. You know, I think that would change a lot. And a 867 01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:56.599 lot of people have said that they've seen craft that were famous, but I 868 01:07:56.599 --> 01:07:59.320 think if someone really came out and said they were a legit experiencer, it 869 01:07:59.320 --> 01:08:03.000 would change a lot of things too. So another story. We only have 870 01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:08.800 a few minutes left, but you had mentioned Diana Pasolka and she wrote this 871 01:08:08.840 --> 01:08:15.079 book recently, American Cosmic UFOs, Religion and Technology, and she comes up. 872 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:19.720 She shows up in your article about the meta materials, which is another 873 01:08:19.800 --> 01:08:23.720 thing that we're going to learn more about another whole area of all of this 874 01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:27.000 that is really exciting, and maybe we'll just do another show where we can 875 01:08:27.039 --> 01:08:31.279 talk about some of that stuff. But how does she fit in? Well, 876 01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:38.520 Doctor Pisoka was taken to a crash site from the forties. She has 877 01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:45.000 extremely high connections and she was able to go there with a scientist and they 878 01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:55.760 found some pieces. There's a but basically she was given impeccable access to write 879 01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.760 her book, and her book to me, changes a lot of things if 880 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.319 you read it and also read between the lines. I just I can't stress 881 01:09:04.319 --> 01:09:13.520 that enough. You know, there's stories of scientists in her book doing current 882 01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.760 work on some of these meta material Meta materials they don't think they were made 883 01:09:16.800 --> 01:09:21.600 in this universe. They look up. She describes them as frogs, can 884 01:09:21.720 --> 01:09:27.920 at least one of them. And just simple fact that she was able to 885 01:09:27.960 --> 01:09:32.800 go there and get shown this stuff makes me wonder just exactly what's going on. 886 01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:40.159 A lot of people think of to the Star's Academy as the main group, 887 01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:43.720 and they totally are, But there is other people doing all this kind 888 01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:47.239 of amazing stuff, and there's other work being done with meta materials. So 889 01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:51.479 I think if it's going to be coming from more than one place, it's 890 01:09:51.520 --> 01:09:57.079 even better to convince the skeptics, and the more scientists that are involved, 891 01:09:57.399 --> 01:09:59.920 the better. And I think that's also one of the goals of To the 892 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.119 Stars Academy, is to get politicians to start talking about this and get the 893 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:09.720 scientific community to start talking about this, when previously they thought that, you 894 01:10:09.760 --> 01:10:12.600 know, they weren't allowed to or it was silly, or they would get 895 01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.079 in trouble if they did it. And once it's okay for everyone to start 896 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.159 talking about this, it's going to be a game changer. And I think 897 01:10:18.199 --> 01:10:23.920 that's already happening from to the Stars and from Diana Posoca and other people like 898 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:30.079 that. I agree with you one hundred percent that we see this happening and 899 01:10:30.039 --> 01:10:34.079 there's no doubt about it. And that's what's great. And I maybe that's 900 01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:40.520 what some people are concerned about, is that the conversation is now reaching another 901 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:46.640 level and you have these credible scientists, you know, and retired officials and 902 01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.039 so forth now getting involved politicians, and they're worried about getting left behind. 903 01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:58.199 But you know, your blog is a demonstration of just someone having an interest 904 01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:03.880 being able to get involved, and then also being able to get in touch 905 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:08.600 with all of these people and get their cooperation to help you to share more 906 01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:15.680 information. Yeah, I'm amazed that how welcoming a lot of people are. 907 01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:19.520 You know, people will talk to you every once in a while at least, 908 01:11:19.560 --> 01:11:23.920 and the answer your emails. Every once in a while, I get 909 01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:26.520 ghosted, like a lot of other people do. Want I send out emails 910 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:29.560 and out hear back. But at the same time, there's a lot of 911 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:33.319 people that will talk to you, and I just kind of I feel like 912 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:39.720 everyone should be getting involved no matter what they're doing, whether they're telling their 913 01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:44.359 family or they're jumping on social media or they're writing a blog or whatever they're 914 01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:47.239 doing. As long as they're doing incredibly and they're citing their sources and things 915 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:53.760 like that, I think there's a lot of grassroots involvement that people can be 916 01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.199 doing. I'm just I can't wait to see what this TV show does, 917 01:11:57.439 --> 01:12:00.920 because if the New York Times article did some thing and good all of us 918 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:02.600 involved. This TV show is going to do it, and it's just going 919 01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:09.319 to get waves of more people involved in talking about this right exactly, So 920 01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.000 the last thing because we're pretty much out of time, but I do on 921 01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.520 that last topic. We were talking about the meta materials, and you were 922 01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:20.159 talking about others, you know, how getting involved in having materials like Diana. 923 01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:25.199 You know, another name that you have in your blog story is of 924 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:29.600 course Jacques Valet, who's been in this field for decades, you know, 925 01:12:29.680 --> 01:12:35.479 one of the godfathers of the field, and he's also you know, behind 926 01:12:35.520 --> 01:12:42.319 the scenes dropping clues here and there. Yeah, I mean Vallet, you 927 01:12:42.399 --> 01:12:46.399 have to read all of this stuff. It's it's a must. And they 928 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:51.359 have a bunch of these pieces. Doctor Putoff said, it is sec S 929 01:12:51.359 --> 01:12:56.600 s S talk. You know, a lot of this stuff is costafied and 930 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.399 they can't talk about it. But there's also a lot in the public realm. 931 01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:02.840 And that's what it seems like Josh really has with the scientist he's working 932 01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.720 with. He's working with doctor Gary Nolan as well, and what they're doing 933 01:13:09.000 --> 01:13:14.319 is going to be incredible. And I think they'll hopefully come out with some 934 01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:20.800 of their things, and you know, hopefully to the stars will and various 935 01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:27.199 other people. So, like I said, this meta material results. If 936 01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:30.560 we're getting everyone on board with it, it's going to be a game changer. 937 01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:34.600 And I'm sure people that don't believe it. They still won't, but 938 01:13:35.439 --> 01:13:38.800 people that are more open minded, they're gonna be able to see some of 939 01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:44.079 this these scientific results and just get on board and freak out basically about it. 940 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:50.119 Mm hmm. Exciting stuff. So the time absolutely flew by. Thank 941 01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:55.840 you so much for being on Silver Record dot com is where you guys can 942 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:59.199 go and look at this, say, can you give us any sneak peek 943 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:04.039 into something that's coming up next that you're you're working on. Let's see. 944 01:14:04.479 --> 01:14:09.079 Probably not, Actually I don't think I should because it may give me into 945 01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:16.000 some trouble. But I'm hoping to have a video, not an exclusive video, 946 01:14:16.279 --> 01:14:21.840 but a video from an experiencer that this experiencer thinks is credible and I'm 947 01:14:23.159 --> 01:14:26.399 hoping to highlight that that that I can say. So I'm working on that 948 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:30.800 one. Okay, Yeah, if anyone has stories, hit me with them 949 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:33.159 and send them to me and I'll look into it. Sounds good. Thanks 950 01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:39.520 for the little clue there. But you know, there's that whole other article 951 01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:43.119 you have on experiencers and I did want to get into that, but we 952 01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:45.600 just didn't have time. But we'll have to hit on that another time. 953 01:14:45.720 --> 01:14:50.560 So thank you so much for joining us and we'll be in touch. Thank 954 01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:55.760 you, Alejandro, You're a real role model for all of us, So 955 01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.199 thank you for what you do and you get the best podcast going. Thank 956 01:14:59.239 --> 01:15:03.199 you so much for saying that. That's very very appreciated. Thank you so 957 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:08.039 much to Danny for being on the show. Be sure to check out his 958 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:14.399 website silvarecord dot com. That's Silva record dot com for all of those stories 959 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:19.359 that he talked about, much more on those underwater objects and TTSA and a 960 01:15:19.399 --> 01:15:21.920 whole bunch of other stuff that he's written about, so check it out. 961 01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:26.680 We only touched on the surface, and of course I'll be much more that 962 01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:30.800 we'll review over time. But you know, another place that we're all on 963 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.560 quite a bit is Twitter. I know some of you don't get on Twitter, 964 01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:38.720 but you know the way I use it, the best way is kind 965 01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.319 of as a news feed. So you go follow the people that you like, 966 01:15:41.680 --> 01:15:44.359 make a list where they're all in there, and then you get to 967 01:15:44.399 --> 01:15:48.039 see and keep updated on all of this information and it's to the second or 968 01:15:48.039 --> 01:15:51.359 to the minute. So that's why I love Twitter, and we're on there 969 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:56.600 quite a bit. Another person who's on Twitter is Ufo Joe. Some of 970 01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:00.119 you may know him. He's another guy just like Mike who we had on 971 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.960 last week and Danny who we had on this week. Ufo Joe is also 972 01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:09.880 following all of this on a regular basis, just like Danny. He's transcribing 973 01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:15.840 different interviews, he's sharing stories that some of us are missing, really great 974 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.800 stuff. So we'll have him on next week. So very exciting kind of 975 01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:24.399 all these new guys coming out and sharing information and paying attention to all of 976 01:16:24.439 --> 01:16:30.159 this exciting news that is coming out about UFOs and then the government and everything. 977 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:32.880 So it's an exciting time. You know, there's another story too, 978 01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:36.199 I forgot to write about or tell you all about. I wrote a story 979 01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:41.279 and I posted it on my Patreon about the Condon Report. So some of 980 01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:45.640 you may know that Project Blue Book ended in nineteen sixty nine, and the 981 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:47.880 reason they say the closed it is because of the Condon Report. In fact, 982 01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:50.960 if you go to the National Archives, that's what it'll say, we 983 01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:55.800 close Blue Book because of Condon. So a lot of people feel like and 984 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.119 the Air Force tries to make it seem as though the Condon Report was the 985 01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:01.199 end all be all. Took a scientific look at the topic and it was 986 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:04.000 done. They figured, hey, there's not much to this, we don't 987 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:08.279 have to waste our time with it. But that's not how the Condon Report 988 01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:13.960 actually ended. There were lots of doubts by people inside, by their colleagues 989 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.600 outside. And so I wrote an article about this. And the reason why 990 01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:24.439 is that there was an article fairly recently about the Scientific Coalition for Upology. 991 01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:28.000 I meant a couple of weeks ago in Alabama, and this author took that 992 01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.319 kind of angle. He was like, why are we wasting our time on 993 01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:33.199 this? We keep wasting our time on this. This was all figured out 994 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:38.439 years ago. Well, no, it actually wasn't necessarily figured out years ago. 995 01:17:38.560 --> 01:17:45.359 And if we have an unidentified object aircraft in our airspace, certainly that's 996 01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:47.439 something that we're going to want to investigate until we figure out what it is 997 01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:51.199 and what Lou Alizondo and all these guys are saying that they have investigated them 998 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:55.000 and they can't figure out what they are. And that's why there's a mystery 999 01:17:55.079 --> 01:17:59.479 and something to look into. So definitely check out that story. It's on 1000 01:17:59.640 --> 01:18:03.840 my pageon if you go to Patreon and push Alejandro t rohaih you'll find it, 1001 01:18:03.960 --> 01:18:08.560 but you also will find links to it on open Minds, on my 1002 01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:13.119 blog allehandro tro host dot com, or in the show notes below, depending 1003 01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:15.239 on the tool that you're looking at. And then I'm also going to have 1004 01:18:15.319 --> 01:18:20.960 links to that from open Minds and from everywhere else, so you'll be able 1005 01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:24.800 to check that out. But that's kind of a fun story that I would 1006 01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.640 love for you to see, and it's really helpful. So if people say, 1007 01:18:27.680 --> 01:18:29.880 hey, didn't they figure that out, you know, back in nineteen 1008 01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.600 sixty nine, Well not necessarily, and here's why. And these sources that 1009 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:38.880 I give you are all credible source, scientific organizations or people inside of the 1010 01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:43.720 condon report themselves. So this is all credible stuff, not just some random 1011 01:18:43.840 --> 01:18:47.039 UFO dude saying hey, it's a bunch of grip, So check that out. 1012 01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:51.159 Otherwise, go to the Ufocongress dot com if you want to get on 1013 01:18:51.239 --> 01:18:56.760 our email list. Our open Minds email is not really we're not able to 1014 01:18:56.800 --> 01:19:00.239 send out mass emails currently through open Minds, so we're sending those out through 1015 01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:03.960 the UFO Congress just so you know. So if you get a UFO Congress 1016 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:09.119 email, you know that's also open mid News so don't delete it, and 1017 01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:12.439 please don't market us spam. Even if you don't want to get those emails 1018 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.920 anymore, just unsubscribe and you won't get them anymore. But please do not 1019 01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:20.199 send it to spam. That actually hurts us quite a bit, so be 1020 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:25.560 sure to do that. And we'll have more information about the Congress coming out 1021 01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:29.399 soon, and all of you that are really interested in these topics that we've 1022 01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:31.880 been talking about these last few weeks, you're going to be very excited when 1023 01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.720 our lineup comes out for the Congress. I know we're a little late on 1024 01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:40.399 posting that information, but there has been some information stuff that's delayed us. 1025 01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.520 We've kind of we're going to have like a better ticketing system and some other 1026 01:19:43.560 --> 01:19:46.680 stuff that is taking more work than expected. But we'll have that information out 1027 01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:50.119 very soon and it's going to excite you all and you're gonna love it, 1028 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:56.239 so pay attention to that. And then also we have, of course, 1029 01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:59.560 like I've talked about, all these cool UFO products and stuff like that that 1030 01:19:59.600 --> 01:20:04.720 you'll find at the UFO Congress Store. So there is everything. I want 1031 01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:10.760 to thank Danny for being on the show. I want to thank Caleb Hanks 1032 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:14.680 for the opening and close music. I want to think Systematics for the bumper 1033 01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.000 music. And of course I want to thank you for listening. Until next 1034 01:20:17.000 --> 01:21:05.960 time, Audio Smooth touchos You were motions