WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:05.559 Hey, I'm gonna begin the Friday night call in show here on the third 2 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:10.039 day of November twenty twenty three. I'm gonna begin it with maybe a little 3 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:15.320 music just to get things rolling. This is a track from Cirrus Minor and 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:18.199 it's called You're Kidding Me. You've probably heard it before if you listen to 5 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:22.920 the network regularly, and it is a decent song. I still don't have 6 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:26.879 enough stuff for the short attention span DJ theater, waiting on people to send 7 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:31.800 me some more MP three suggestions, original sound clips, everything that they can 8 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:35.039 so we can get the regular DJ shows going. But I am live here 9 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:39.159 on a Friday. I think I'm tweaking, turning down our volume on the 10 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:44.600 mic and a few other things here adjusting levels where it's almost ten after eight 11 00:00:44.640 --> 00:00:50.000 pm Eastern time here on this particular Friday, and we're hamping up getting ready 12 00:00:50.000 --> 00:00:52.600 to go to Dallas. So we'll be talking to you about that in a 13 00:00:52.600 --> 00:00:56.799 second. But in the meantime, this is Serrus Minor with the song You're 14 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:02.240 Kidding Me on Ocelli dot Com Radio. Friday Night open Mic is about to 15 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:06.959 begin, and uh you can join us three one nine five two seven five 16 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:11.640 zero one six, that's the number to call. Stick around. I'm come, 17 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:22.000 it's my grandma. I got thirty, I have chance to go to 18 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:33.879 college. But eye so disturb goodbye stuff that nigga weed. I'll be doing 19 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:47.799 well. You bab that shift within your dime as ach double. Well, 20 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:53.879 more more people footing down. We got that. We fer mates, Dan, 21 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.920 it's a round. Well what I live nom nine might leave mecuse no 22 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:15.479 one ever died from smoking we he did. You're kidding me, you're kidding 23 00:02:15.639 --> 00:02:29.199 me? Yeah, yeah, you're kidding me. Well, then wold nur 24 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:43.599 job. They had to find another way to tricks and the beast thing that 25 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:53.599 could come up. Awa, it's a gay way drug and leads to other 26 00:02:54.159 --> 00:03:08.560 substances. You're kidding me. Your kidding me? Yeah, yeah, you're 27 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:19.599 kidding me. Well, more more people putted down, but we got that 28 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:24.840 before my decided. It's getting around. Well, what I be lied coming 29 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:32.159 now might be me because no one ever died from smoking weed? Your hair 30 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:43.879 are your kiddening me? Are you a kidding me? Yeah? Yeah, 31 00:03:44.280 --> 00:04:06.159 yeah, you're kidding me. Red mothers considering majority the authority to the hot 32 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:20.600 people like you and me? You're kidding mean are your kidding me? Yeah, 33 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:30.279 yeah, yeah, are your kidding me? Well? More more people 34 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:36.959 flooded down, but we got that prefer that the sands getting around? Well 35 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:45.240 what of l darling? Now my baby, because no one ever died from 36 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:58.279 smoking? Were you're kidding me? Are your kidding me? Yeah? Yeah? 37 00:04:58.680 --> 00:05:53.720 Yeah, young kidding me, young kid. So there is Aaron Franz's 38 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:58.639 digital version of Raining Blood, the Slayer song by the Bye that is playing 39 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.000 underneath me. But the first track was serious minor with the soil. You're 40 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:05.879 kidding me? Uh? Anyway, we're gonna get the phone show started. 41 00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.279 Here the call intro, the live open mic, and you can join us 42 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.399 three one nine five two seven five zero one six. Let us commence with 43 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.240 the regular intro. My cos BPTE is with me, and hopefully you could 44 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.160 be two three one nine five two seven five zero one six. I've even 45 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.680 got a couple of threats that somebody or two or three people might even join 46 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.079 us via Skype. So and you can do that if you contact Charles dot 47 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:32.439 Ocelly on Skype. Uh, you know, I'll accept any friend request, 48 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.160 won't promise to keep you, but I will promise to accept it at first 49 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:41.199 to bring you on as a caller, and let's get this Friday night thing 50 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:46.199 started. I think we'll probably play probably should play little disclaimer here before we 51 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.639 get to the intro. But let's do the intro and all that good stuff 52 00:06:49.920 --> 00:07:01.199 on Ocelly dot com radio. If you've expressed by caller schools, there anyone 53 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.240 else who happens to get on the air of Kelly dot com if he's not 54 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:06.480 necessarily replied, he views Little Kelly dot com or Choko Kelly. And we 55 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.759 are not responsible for any stupidity which might ensue. Thank you. Hey, 56 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.759 Look, I actually have a little offer that I want to drop to everybody 57 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:25.079 who's on here and anybody listening. If from the big fan of the lenge, 58 00:07:25.160 --> 00:07:28.399 CHECKO Kelly. And it's been known for many years of applying GFT researchers 59 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:32.439 specializing inst Kelly's taking the involvement in multiple assassinations, probagain and other Gibbo criminal 60 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:41.319 operations in the twentieth and twenty first centuries and March now and now that's activator 61 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:51.279 Kelly. That intro is mainly meant for a solo show from maybe what the 62 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:54.759 hell it's an oldie but a goodie. I figured it'll take that out and 63 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.120 dust it off and play it for you. We are live on a Friday 64 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.759 night, and it's just about seventeen minutes after the hour of eight pm Eastern, 65 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:07.079 if you're hearing us live on Friday, November third, according to that 66 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:11.720 thing we call a calendar allegedly right or allegedly according to that thing we call 67 00:08:11.800 --> 00:08:16.000 a calendar works any which direction you want to use it. It's supposed to 68 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.879 be November third, according to that thing, and it is just after eight 69 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.399 pm. We'll take this to at least after ten pm, depending on the 70 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:26.480 volume of calls, et cetera. We've already got one or two on the 71 00:08:26.560 --> 00:08:30.680 line, so I'm gonna get to them as quickly as possible. And I've 72 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:33.919 got a co host on Friday nights, that is b Pete, who is 73 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.240 also going to be on the road with me in let's see about twelve days 74 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:41.720 from now, maybe thirteen days twelve or thirteen days from now, we'll be 75 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:46.720 on the road. Actually, you'll leave probably the day before get to me. 76 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:50.159 I'm not sure about the plan just yet. I'm thinking you're probably gonna 77 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.240 come to me the night before, and then we'll leave the morning of the 78 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.399 next day to get there by the night. I guess in Dallas. Is 79 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.000 that the idea of BPTE partly much? Yeah, because it so it's like 80 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:03.399 eight and a half hours down to you, and then it's like, well, 81 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.080 no, it's like eight hours to you from where I am, and 82 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:13.840 then it's twelve hours and forty four minutes to Dallas from their place. Is 83 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.799 that depending on how you drive or is that like the standard? If you 84 00:09:16.879 --> 00:09:20.120 do sixty miles an hour, that's about how you're going to land. Well, 85 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:24.000 that's just based out on maps. You know. It's plus you're changing 86 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.080 time zone. So oh right, yeah, so that'll vary and we'll slide 87 00:09:30.120 --> 00:09:33.799 back by what one hour because Central will change it by an hour? Right, 88 00:09:33.639 --> 00:09:37.399 yeah, Dallas is an hour back. The thing is, though, 89 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.279 you would you go one way, it takes you from Making up through Atlanta. 90 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.799 If you go the other way, you go straight from Making to Montgomery 91 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.720 and don't even go through Atlanta. I don't even want to mess with Atlanta 92 00:09:48.759 --> 00:09:50.639 if I don't have to, Well, you woul hit Atlanta before you hit 93 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.399 me. Atlanta's north for me, I think right now, because when I 94 00:09:54.480 --> 00:10:00.480 come to I'll come to Augusta Augusta. Yeah, I'm not going to Charlotte 95 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.919 down. I'm taking ninety five down. So I'll cut across South Carolina and 96 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.720 I'll go through Augusta, Georgia. So I hit making instead of going through 97 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.679 Atlanta. Well, take an I ninety five all the way down the entire 98 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.360 shore. I know works best. I mean where I live now would have 99 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.960 not even been a stopover for me if I was going from Jersey to Florida 100 00:10:18.440 --> 00:10:22.159 in the old days. But yeah, ninety five is probably the way to 101 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:24.120 go. Now here's the thing. Notice, I don't know where the hell 102 00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.240 I am. I don't know where the hell anything is. So you realize 103 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:31.279 you're taking a blind guy, throwing him in a car, and he's your 104 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.759 co pilot all the way to Texas. Right, Oh, I'm not worry 105 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:39.919 about that. I mean that's I didn't find a good stretch of highway and 106 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.879 let you drive. Well, okay me, you know you feel like risking 107 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.559 your life. I mean it's it's worth it. I got an insurance, 108 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:50.240 a rental, I'll get the insurance. Who cares? Wait a minute, 109 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:52.879 are we doing rental? I thought we were taking your car. I don't 110 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:56.879 know almost see what a rental cost. I mean, it's it's like twelve 111 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.840 hundred miles. I'd put twenty four hundred miles on my car round trip. 112 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.159 I just ran a fucking car and make sure I got enough room for all 113 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.240 your shit. All right, Hey, look, I've got a way to 114 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:07.759 compact it, and we'll figure it out, because if you come here the 115 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.279 night before, uh well, we'll figure out what we're taking. I'm not 116 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.799 sure if I can take the broadcast rig I was thinking about that, maybe 117 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:20.240 not taking it and trying to take stuff that we could take videos to pull 118 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.399 the videos together after the fact, you know, which was funny because I 119 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.799 was talking to a presenter today like via email who didn't realize that I'm gonna 120 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:31.159 be at the conference and it's going, well, I'm gonna be speaking at 121 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.080 Lancer. I'm like, well, okay, so I'll be introducing you and 122 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.919 you know, and they're not sure up to this date, by the way, 123 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.639 if they're actually gonna be there in person or if they're gonna do via 124 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:45.919 zoom. You notice there's a couple of speakers on there that are to be 125 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:48.679 announced or to be determined as to whether they're gonna be in person or not. 126 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:52.840 Yeah, I noticed that when I looked at it a while back. 127 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.919 If they updated everything is itsy got more info on it on people that have 128 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.919 decided which they're gonna do. Well, they updated a couple of things. 129 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.720 I think Vince Palmyra decided he's not going to the conference. Uh and by 130 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.840 the way, you know, we're not just going to talk about the conference 131 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:09.279 tonight. Anything that you guys want to bring up. It's open field still. 132 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:13.200 And I sent a couple of articles over to b Pete, which was 133 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.600 funny because I started I sent him a bunch in a row and he goes, 134 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.279 now, you're spamming me. Well, no, I only would know 135 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:24.480 when you threw the one out there with Gene Simmons and Kiss on their final 136 00:12:24.559 --> 00:12:26.799 tour. That's when I said you were spamming me. Oh well, I 137 00:12:26.879 --> 00:12:31.519 thought you'd find that. You always find music news interesting. I do, 138 00:12:31.840 --> 00:12:37.080 but Gene Simmons just I don't know. I after their third album he started 139 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:41.519 getting annoying. Uh. No, I've just not kept up with them very 140 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:43.360 much since. Well, No, I take that back. What was Destroyer? 141 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:46.279 That was their fourth album? Yeah, it was a live album. 142 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.720 I gotta look backward. No way Destroyer would have to be after the live 143 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:54.799 album. I think yeah, Destroyer was after the uh was it after? 144 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.399 Yeah? And then I'm gonna have to pull up a kiss Discussions to Kill. 145 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.360 Dress to Kill was their last album before the live album, and Dressed 146 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.679 to Kill I thought was a very good album. Had they tweaked a couple 147 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.480 of things, but it was a very good album. Then the live album 148 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:16.919 came out, it was awesome. But after that, Oh, what was 149 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.799 the one I had love going on it? Yeah? Well, love Gun 150 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.200 I think is on Destroyer, Right, isn't that on because that's the same 151 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.360 one with no No love Gun is on the album love Gun. Right. 152 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.159 Yeah, let's look the album was love Gun. Yeah? That was their 153 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.639 what third album? Well, let's second album. Well, let's look here. 154 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.639 According to their discography that I see on well, unfortunately, the best 155 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:41.879 listed one is on Wikipedia. That's the easiest accessible one, which I hate 156 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:46.039 Wikipedia. But anyway, they had a self titled album in nineteen seventy four. 157 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.399 But Hotter than Hell, sorry, Hotter in Hell, that's the one 158 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.679 I'm saying. That was their second album. That also Dress Kill. Yeah, 159 00:13:54.840 --> 00:13:58.559 that also came out in seventy four. Then Dressed to Kill was seventy 160 00:13:58.639 --> 00:14:03.240 five, Destroyer and Rock and Roll Over in nineteen seventy six. Remember the 161 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.600 days when you know, they used to see albums only had eight songs on 162 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:11.440 them. So you know the album that they released today, the CD that 163 00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:13.639 they would have released twenty years later, had two albums on it. Usually 164 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:16.679 it had like sixteen songs, and some of those albums only had eight songs 165 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:22.279 on them, depending on the link to the songs. Right. So anyways, 166 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:26.519 Destroyer, then Rock and roll Over, then Love Gun, Let's See, 167 00:14:26.600 --> 00:14:28.919 then Dynasty, then Unmasked. Wait, they're not listing Alive, are 168 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:35.279 they? Oh, it's studio albums. That's why it's showing me studio albums 169 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:37.960 as listed. Where is live? Because then you got to basically look at 170 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.240 the live albums. Let's see solo albums in seventy eight? Okay, live 171 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:48.919 albums. Alive the first one was released in seventy five, so that means 172 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:54.000 that it was released the same year as Dressed to Kill. So yeah, 173 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.120 Alive is either their third or fourth album depending because let's see, dress to 174 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:03.759 Kill was released March nineteen of seventy five, and Alive is said to have 175 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:09.639 been released September tenth, so Alive is actually their fourth album, right yeah, 176 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.840 that's their fourth album. Okay, So Live is their fourth album, 177 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.240 and Destroyer is their fifth album, right okay? Yeah. Destroyer was the 178 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.440 next album after There We Go. Okay. I was wondering, where where 179 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:24.039 the hell are the live albums, and then they tried to recapture that. 180 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:26.320 I love the fact that they did the solo albums in seventy eight two. 181 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:31.240 That's funny. Uh. You know, there's certain live albums out there that 182 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:37.159 when you listen to them, like oh crap, green Grass and High Tides 183 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:45.039 All Loss. You listen to it, and then you listen to them, 184 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:50.440 either live or another recording, and you think, man, it just doesn't 185 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:54.399 sound like it did on that album, that first live. You know, 186 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.519 there's there's just certain live albums out there that do that to you. Frampton 187 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.200 comes along, but you can't replicate that on another recording of another concert. 188 00:16:03.639 --> 00:16:07.320 I mean, they nailed that album well. And what's crazy is most of 189 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.720 those are mixes and remixes. I mean they record the stuff in separate tracks 190 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.960 usually, and then they take it and they remix it and mix in audiences 191 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.840 from different shows. All kinds of weird stuff goes on. Yeah, there's 192 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:25.120 a few out there that were actual though raw recordings. I mean yeah, 193 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:30.200 they dressed them up, made them look good, but still the music in 194 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.759 it was pretty much raw. They didn't do much to the music and edity. 195 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:37.039 Yeah, so it's right, and there's actually a whole series. It's 196 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:41.759 so funny because if you look at Kisses live albums, they had three live 197 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:48.000 albums from that one in seventy five to then one in ninety three. A 198 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:51.279 lot of three was done in ninety three, and then you got kiss Unplugged 199 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:55.480 in ninety six, which I liked, by the way, but uh it, 200 00:16:56.039 --> 00:16:59.440 Yeah, it was a good sound for being an unplugged sound, but 201 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:03.039 a lot of their stuff was kind of hard to do unplugged anyway. Then 202 00:17:03.080 --> 00:17:04.799 they have a series that they call Off the Soundboard. See, there was 203 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:10.079 a time there where people wanted the single show, you know, just give 204 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.799 me this show. And who was it, Pearl Jam or one of those 205 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:18.920 nineties Seattle bands turned around and started releasing individual shows as albums. I forget 206 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.839 which band did it. It was either Pearl Jam or Soundgarden did that for 207 00:17:23.920 --> 00:17:30.160 a little bit. And then of course kiss also very many compilation albums, 208 00:17:30.680 --> 00:17:34.039 right box sets, all kinds of crazy stuff. One thing you can't say 209 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:38.839 for Kiss is that there wasn't enough merch out there to get you know what 210 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.680 I mean, Like A Kiss was on everything narrowly? Did they? The 211 00:17:42.759 --> 00:17:47.839 only bad thing about them is is just left with Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons 212 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:52.160 now and Ace Freeli and Peter Chris had played with him since the early two 213 00:17:52.200 --> 00:17:56.720 thousands, playing around two thousand and two, so it's not I don't know, 214 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:59.880 it's just not the same. But like I said, I lost it 215 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:06.240 interest after Destroyer. I kind of faded away, was on to something else. 216 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:10.200 Got you well anyway, So you lost interest when I was about three 217 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:14.359 years old on that. So let's see, maybe I was four. Let's 218 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:17.079 say Destroyer seventy six. Yeah, I was four years old. Sorry, 219 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:19.920 and Rob remember seeing them on TV the first time, and I thought, 220 00:18:21.079 --> 00:18:25.160 you know, these guys, this is different. This is gonna take it. 221 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:27.240 This is either going to be a big hit or a big miss. 222 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:30.559 See. The first thing that I saw on TV with them was crazy. 223 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.680 It was called The Phantom of the Park or something like that. It was 224 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.039 like this weird movie where they were sort of I don't know, they were 225 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:41.920 interdimensional superheroes or some nonsense. I was really little, I said when I 226 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:45.720 saw it. Yeah, they first they first came on the ABC had a 227 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:49.960 program called Him Concert, and I think later on they were on Don Curser's. 228 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:55.000 Yeah, sure, I know they started on in concert. That was 229 00:18:55.039 --> 00:18:57.640 a good show. Whish they bring that back. That was a cool show. 230 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:03.039 It was. I loved My My, My, VHS and Black Sabbath 231 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:07.240 for many years. I had the don Kershner in concert. And also, 232 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.480 what is it? I heard something the other day and Ozzie's song on a 233 00:19:11.559 --> 00:19:15.599 Was it a Kentucky Fed chicken commercial? Oh? No, my god. 234 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.480 As soon as I saw it, I thought of you and thought, well, 235 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:25.200 there's the end of an era. Well it's Applebee's I think, yeah, 236 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:29.279 you know, and you know what, but that I'm don't worry. 237 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:33.119 The trauma had already set in. I'm good and set You know why because 238 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.640 they used crazy train. Not only that, they use crazy Train in sports 239 00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:41.319 arenas now. Oh yeah, yeah, you hear it some of these basketball 240 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.920 games and stuff like that. You'll hear it in the background when they're going 241 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:48.200 to a break, right, And I think, yeah, that's perfect. 242 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.400 You know, it's kind of funny I was watching it was a KFC commercial 243 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:56.960 the first time I heard Leonard Skinner commercial, and I thought, it's the 244 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:02.960 end of the world that, you know, Armageddon cannot be yep. But 245 00:20:03.079 --> 00:20:08.279 the thing is Ozzie was Ozzy was already used for like they first licensed him 246 00:20:08.319 --> 00:20:12.519 for a car commercial Crazy Train a while ago. Oh yeah, and I 247 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.960 was just like wow. And that to me was like, okay, so 248 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:22.160 I'm definitely officially old now because something that was made when I was a kid 249 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:26.920 that was part of a rebellious dark you know, oh scary stuff. You 250 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:30.640 used Ozzie Osbourne. You must be you know that was a satanic panic and 251 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.400 all that, And nowadays it's like, nah, it's background for your side, 252 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:41.680 orders your side. The time of the last big record burnie mm hmm 253 00:20:44.200 --> 00:20:48.079 yep. Oh god, I really haven't had one since then. I'll tell 254 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.640 you what I'm looking at. I'm looking at the Kiss meets the Phantom of 255 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:59.119 the Park synopsis on Rotten Tomatoes, just like part of it. Uh yeah, 256 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:00.960 they're comic book. I bought their comic book when it came out, 257 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.200 and I thought, this one makes going to need some work. Yeah, 258 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:07.799 okay, but check this out. Okay, I'm gonna go to the IMDb 259 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:10.519 listing because it was made in nineteen seventy eight, and I'm going to go 260 00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.440 right to the callers after I give you this description, because this was my 261 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:19.240 first exposure to Kiss. Actually, like I had heard some songs teenagers six 262 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:23.720 seventy eight. Yeah, I was six years old, and I'd heard, 263 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.799 like I said, some other older kids listening to, you know, probably 264 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.759 Detroit Rock City. I remember get up everybody going, you know, I 265 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:34.519 remember that one good song. I like this, uh, Detroit Rock City 266 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:37.960 and the whole thing it plays a there's like a soundtrack to somebody having a 267 00:21:38.039 --> 00:21:41.880 car crash and all kinds of stuff. Anyways, the tale of rock pand 268 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:48.119 Kiss and their efforts to thwart a diabolical plan by mad scientist Abner Devo. 269 00:21:48.119 --> 00:21:52.559 Devo has found a way to clone humans into robots in his laboratory at an 270 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:56.880 amusement park. It just so happens that he plans to use the Kiss concert 271 00:21:56.960 --> 00:22:02.039 as a platform to unleash his plan on the world. Kiss must use their 272 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:07.279 special powers to stop him. That is the synopsis on IMDb. That's how 273 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:12.759 silly it was, by the way, and I was just like okay, 274 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:18.000 so that music did in this? Did they ever have a kids show a 275 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:22.200 cartoon? I don't remember them having a cartoon. I could probably search and 276 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.359 find and probably don't know if it listed it there on IMDb. It would 277 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:30.640 if they had a TV. Yeah. Well let me let me look, 278 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:36.920 a lot of people don't know Black Sabbath had a cartoon. I really yeah. 279 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.240 I think they only made like three or four episodes. But there is 280 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.240 literally a copy of a plotin I did not know that. Yeah, like 281 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.759 nineteen seventies. Uh, let's see Kiss cartoon. I don't see anything for 282 00:22:47.200 --> 00:22:51.559 Kiss as a cartoon. Oh okay, I know they had a comic book. 283 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:55.680 I figured they, you know, did something in conjunction with ABC TV 284 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:59.759 or something. It's Saturday Morning TV they used to call it, or would 285 00:22:59.799 --> 00:23:04.400 not surprised me. A lot of odd artists had uh good cartoons briefly right 286 00:23:06.160 --> 00:23:08.799 where you know, I mean weird thing like mc hammer had a cartoon, 287 00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:11.920 remember, uh oh I remember that? Yeah, you know, And of 288 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.880 course a lot of a lot of odd people had cartoons. But yeah, 289 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:21.680 the Black Sabbath cartoon was really ridiculous. I never knew there was there is 290 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:23.640 there copies out there you can see. I know, I've seen. I 291 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.599 used to see one floating around on YouTube. I don't know if it's still 292 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.160 out there. Let me let me see if I can find I'll yeah, 293 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:37.559 I'm sure. I mean, I'm not losing my mind, but it I'm 294 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.519 not sure how many episodes were made, or if it was only released in 295 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:44.640 England. I'm not sure, but that could be it was. You say 296 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.119 it was Black Sabbath, not Ozzie. Yeah, no, it's Black Sabbath. 297 00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.640 It's back. Yeah. Oh, nineteen seventy four is when they made 298 00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:59.240 this thing, and there is a Black Sabbath cartoon. Let me see if 299 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.680 we go to the YouTube tube listing for it. Maybe it shows the whole 300 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:03.599 na. I don't know if it shows the whole thing, but there's at 301 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:08.319 least three minutes of it on here, and one of the cartoon flashback. 302 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:12.119 Yeah. One of the scenes I remember is Ozzie humping like some island girl 303 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:17.200 real quick. So I don't think it was really meant for kids entirely. 304 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:19.079 But then again, they have different sensibilities in the UK, or at least 305 00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:22.599 they used to on TV. So uh, this might be a sound clip 306 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:25.759 from that, let me see it. But Okay, here we go that 307 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:40.119 this was their actual voices. Nothing like a little Hawaiian vacation after a successful 308 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:45.160 tool, right Tony, Oh you know it, Ozzie, what are you 309 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:51.000 doing? I'm trying to find me special Hawaii clues. We'll put something on 310 00:24:51.160 --> 00:25:00.519 in the meantime. I'll put on my birthdays on. It probably is royal. 311 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:12.480 What the flowers? It's cooled a lie? No, see now that 312 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:15.759 that we're gonna get laid thing. He just jumps on the Hawaiian girl, 313 00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:22.920 starts humping her, and bill Ward is the one grumbling and drinking. So 314 00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:26.240 yeah, clearly this is not a kid's cartoon. But it's the Black Sabbath 315 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.680 Show from nineteen seventy four. I have no idea where this thing actually came 316 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:37.279 from. I just know it exists. But it does exist, and those 317 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.039 are not their actual voices. Just I can tell that. I wanted to 318 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.119 listen before I told you it was them and wasn't them. But the cartoons 319 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:48.319 are pretty funny. I'm sure you see the pictures of it already, right 320 00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:55.400 BP Oh yeah, so yeah, that's wild. That is wild. I 321 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:57.920 never knew that existent. Yeah, thank you, Yeah, it's it's it's 322 00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:02.240 a New Country anyway, enough out of me and enough out of this stuff 323 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.359 in nostalgia with the music I did. This was inspired by the fact that 324 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:08.400 Kisses on their final tour and I just sent a thing to you about it. 325 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:11.640 See, I thought they were on their final tour in like the year 326 00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.359 two thousand that was supposed to be their big deal, the millennium. We're 327 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.240 going to do this thing. We're all in makeup, and they had gone 328 00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:21.839 for this is what this is is stop there for what how many years have 329 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:29.119 they been? Because I know, well Little Feet had their fiftieth anniversary a 330 00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.440 while back. Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon hit fifty this year, 331 00:26:33.759 --> 00:26:37.759 but we were just covering. We were just covering their discography. So I 332 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.960 mean, honestly, we look at the discography. The first album was in 333 00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:45.880 seventy four, so they're coming right around seventy four to fifty years. Man, 334 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.160 fifty years, yeah, then we're getting old. Yeah that's for sure. 335 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.160 All right, thank you? All right, Pink floyd Dark Side of 336 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:55.920 the Moon hit fifty that one really so I thought for a minute, I 337 00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.240 thought, you know, there's one album. Back when you bought albums would 338 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.319 get worn out or get scratched, or you know, your buddy would drop 339 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.920 the ball and hit the tone arm and you'd have to go buy another copy. 340 00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.160 And I think Dark Side of the Moon. I think I went through 341 00:27:11.279 --> 00:27:15.720 like four or five copies of that over the years, right before I finally 342 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:19.119 ended up with one that's in perfect condition. Gotcha. I've added Advance to 343 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:22.759 the conversation because I can't seem to get I can't seem to segue to the 344 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:26.720 callers. So I just grabbed Vance and I've thrown him on because he's been 345 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:29.640 waiting the longest. Good evening, Vance, How you doing, man, 346 00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.599 I'm doing great. Are you all right? All right? And I see 347 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:37.559 other callers already. I'll get to you in order, and let's see. 348 00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.519 I think next up will be Harlan, So prepare yourself, Harlan. I'll 349 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.240 drag you on as quick as I can. But anyway, Vance, Yeah, 350 00:27:44.359 --> 00:27:48.200 so far we're talking music. Uh, and god knows if we'll get 351 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.359 to other news tonight or anything else. But what's on your mind? Oh, 352 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.240 you know, there's a whole lot on my mind. I don't even 353 00:27:56.319 --> 00:28:03.960 know that you know what my grace or nationality or you know, I'm confused 354 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:07.640 about a whole lot of things lately. But on that song, he played 355 00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:15.039 the beginning song the intro. I found out earlier this week or last week. 356 00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:19.440 I can't remember what podcast is on, but whoever it was to be 357 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:29.160 an interviewed whatever brought up the fact that Eli Lily did his thesis when he 358 00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:33.799 was graduating from you know, pharmacy school or whatever, you know, doctorate 359 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:41.599 or whatever that that supposedly he wrote his thesis on the benefits of what the 360 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:48.039 medical community at the time was calling the wonder drug or the wonder plant or 361 00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:53.400 whatever. And then when he found out that, you know, it was 362 00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:59.160 marijuana, because right when they start, when they before they decriminalize, that's 363 00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.440 when they were really study in it, you know, and the difference between 364 00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:06.799 you know, and they called it cannabis tativa instead of you know, marijuana, 365 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.839 and they didn't even realize that, you know, that's what they were 366 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:15.319 talking about till it was like already being criminalized and people went to court saying, 367 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.359 oh, there's all kind of wonderful benefits from this you know plant and 368 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:22.839 all. But anyway, supposedly he was that his uh, he wanted to 369 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.000 be like, you know special and you know, make this you know statement, 370 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:30.720 you know that what you know about the important you know, new new 371 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.160 study or whatever. And then when he found out that it was only like 372 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.680 four cents, you know for a pound or whatever at the time, and 373 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:44.440 there wasn't really any way to make money on it because everybody can grow it 374 00:29:44.519 --> 00:29:48.880 in the backyard, well he switched over to you know, the Rockefeller Science 375 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.599 or whatever. So I just thought that was interesting that that's true. I 376 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.960 haven't researched, you, right. I always thought that was the primary problem 377 00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.319 is that it was way too dirt cheap. Uh, you know, so 378 00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.720 even if it was remotely useful, it was dirt cheap. That was the 379 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:06.920 problem. How are you going to prop it on it if you can grow 380 00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:10.920 it in your backyard, you know. But then again, I don't know. 381 00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.039 We've been through a weird kind of phase with this in the past hundred 382 00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:18.720 years, you know, going from having it declared you know, the Schedule 383 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:23.480 one super dangerous drug. I mean, how long ago was reaper madness and 384 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:30.559 such? That's that's another question. Well, for God's sake, when the 385 00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.119 World War two started and they had outlawed it and all that, and we 386 00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.440 were getting all our hemp and everything, that from Japan or whatever at the 387 00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:44.119 time, and then we couldn't get any and so they had all the FFA, 388 00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:49.480 the high school FFA departments grow what they called the seed crop to the 389 00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.799 distribute it to the farmers to grow it, you know, so they could 390 00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.680 make the ropes and the you know, parachute cords and you know all the 391 00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:02.559 stuff that you know, it's made from hemp and you know everything that you 392 00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:06.200 know, throughout our history in the United States, you know, most everything 393 00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:08.960 is made out of help you know. So it was you know, it's 394 00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:14.279 always been a major foundation of any civilization, you know, for thousands of 395 00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.319 years. And they because it was going to it was going to take away 396 00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:25.319 money from the oil industry and the paper industry and there's some other industry has 397 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.079 not coming to me now, but you know that's what it was all about, 398 00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:33.200 was you know, being able to keep their market safe and not have 399 00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:37.119 people the access to something that they can provide themselves, that can offer nutrition 400 00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:45.039 and food and fuel and you know practically anything you'd need. The hand report 401 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.319 built a car you know, out of hemp that ran on help fuel, 402 00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.960 and you know that just goes away, you know, well, and there 403 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.880 you go. I mean, most of us have been alive for half of 404 00:31:55.960 --> 00:32:00.160 the trajectory. Between nineteen thirty six is when Reaper Madness was put out allegedly 405 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.640 according to multiple sources. Uh, refor Madness, you know, the exploitation 406 00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:09.400 film where people were just nuts. It was gonna make women, you know, 407 00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.759 tear off their clothes and somebody jump out a window and people kill each 408 00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:22.079 other and all kinds of craziness uh in that movie. Right, So and 409 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.559 we've gone for that was William Branda first that with all the yellow journalism, 410 00:32:25.680 --> 00:32:30.240 you know that that's you know kind of where that got to be a popularized 411 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.920 thing, like in America anyway. Yeah, And I mean nowadays, you 412 00:32:32.960 --> 00:32:37.920 know, there's open source copies of it everywhere on YouTube, on every video 413 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.160 platform pretty much has a copy of refor Madness, the trailers, all that 414 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.240 stuff. But it's a weird trajectory because in less than one hundred years we 415 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:51.319 go from that to now there is a whole new industry built around it. 416 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.519 Uh. You have the different states that decriminalized, you know incrementally that went 417 00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.640 from you know, legalization for medical use and so on as so for it's 418 00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:04.640 like we live in a different time period now. I'm thinking, but is 419 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:08.160 it any better now that bigger corporations actually have control of the plant? You 420 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:10.960 know, they did figure out a way to monetize it quite well. Now 421 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.559 you got to go to the dispensary because if you try and just you know, 422 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:19.279 sell among yourselves, it's still a problem because tax issues and such, 423 00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:22.759 even though technically speaking, the federal government can't tax it because it's an illegal 424 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:28.039 substance, right, you can't have tax on illegal It's a weird thing. 425 00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:31.440 Like this is why banks don't didn't want to carry the money from the dispensaries 426 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.440 in Colorado and stuff to start with, because they're like, hey, we 427 00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:42.039 can't have marijuana business in our banking you know, we're here to you know, 428 00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240 launder drug money for like cocaine and stuff. We can't be doing this. 429 00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:51.920 What's the matter with you? Yeah? Good? Sorry. It's like 430 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:53.799 you know, in the song, you know it misses no one's ever died 431 00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:57.319 from smoking weed, you know, and so it's like, you know, 432 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.400 this it makes you know, no sense at all all. You know that 433 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:06.599 they want to and it is definitely not ethical, moral, or legal for 434 00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.320 them to. Well, I guess to leave. I guess we've got to 435 00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:12.639 get to know all those terms or whatever. But you know, there's there's 436 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.559 no there's no reason they should have any say in anything, what you grow 437 00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.960 in your backyard, what you do with it, where you put it, 438 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:23.159 you know, whatever that you know, that's just that's that's insane, you 439 00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:28.000 know. I mean, this is like saying nobody can grow corn except you 440 00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:30.559 know, unless we say so or whatever. It's like, you know, 441 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:37.760 I don't even understand the why anybody still accepts that premise. And and you 442 00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.440 know, I mean I know a lot of people, and I've been smoking 443 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:44.639 pot for a long time, and I don't know anybody that's ever died from 444 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:47.960 pot. I don't know anybody that's ever you know, harmed anybody while they 445 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.159 were on pot, you know, you know in any you know, maybe 446 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.199 in a joke or something, but you know, uh yeah, it's just 447 00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:59.599 you know, it's insane. But you know, here we are, where 448 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:02.239 we are now where you know, they're crying over words and you know, 449 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.440 pronouns, and well, the funny thing is that the only people that I've 450 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.159 ever known to die related to you know, cannabis or marijuana or or you 451 00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:14.039 know, and I hate the term marijuana becau it's actually a racist term anyway. 452 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.880 But the only people that I've ever known to have died over a cannabis 453 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.800 circumstance is because of the black market attachment to it, not because of the 454 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.360 substance itself, but because you know, you have illegal meetings and somebody ends 455 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:30.719 up with a lot of cash, and somebody gets robbed or somebody wants to 456 00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.400 steal their supply. This kind of thing goes on. But it's only because 457 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.199 it's black market. I mean, if it was, you know, just 458 00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.239 again something that was well, grow your own, you know, here's your 459 00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:45.000 grow your own set, take it home and just plan it, you know, 460 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:47.320 give you a little bit, grow it in a box kind of thing 461 00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.159 instead of taking a fish tank home, grow it in a terrarium. Right. 462 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.559 If you did that and stick this in your backyard and that kind of 463 00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.760 thing, if that was just commonplace, nobody would care anybody over it. 464 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:04.119 You know. It's it's the weirdest thing because you know, one of the 465 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.880 things that they said, when you know a few years back, when when 466 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:09.920 people were making these arguments, was like, well the cartel's benefit off of 467 00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:15.440 this, yeah, take it out of their hands. If it is just 468 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.760 commonplace, if it's nothing if it's as common as a chocolate bar, and 469 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.440 then yeah, you got to deal with shoplifters. That's a little different than 470 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:27.400 you know, people literally killing each other over it, or the amount of 471 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.800 profit that can be made off of the black market. But now it's a 472 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.239 weird circumstance, like like I said, these places, these people are paying 473 00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:38.119 outrageous rates to go to a dispensary to get the legally clean stuff now in 474 00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:44.119 the legalized states, right, It's just it's a weird kind of transition where 475 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:50.159 it seems like progress, but it's suspiciously corporatized, you know. Anyway, 476 00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559 Vance, So I'm gonna put you on hold temporarily so we can get around 477 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:57.559 to everybody. Right now, We've got let's see, I've got Harlan on 478 00:36:57.639 --> 00:36:59.719 the line, so I'm gonna bring him on next. And we've also got 479 00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.440 Cap and Trips on the skype. So I want to get around everybody as 480 00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:06.639 fast as I can, and you listening out there can join us at three 481 00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:12.000 one nine, five, two seven five zero one six. So Harlan, 482 00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.840 maybe you didn't want to talk about cannabis, but there you are. You're 483 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:22.079 on the air. Well, I am I just did put far to the 484 00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:28.679 end of the Marlboro right now, Marlboro Black Richard, Virginia got it. 485 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:35.000 Didn't have any pot stories or anything. But I appreciate man's bringing that up, 486 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:39.000 telling us about him something. I'm I'm all for legalization, don't myself. 487 00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:43.000 I don't make some of that good thc O. I've heard so much 488 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.639 about that way. I'm already old. I just ain't got to the park 489 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.559 whe I'm sick yet. But that way, when i'm my old and sick, 490 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.159 I'm getting something that good. Though. Well, you know, I'm 491 00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.719 can stay away from the Hey, look, you don't got to be sick. 492 00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.239 Well, you don't got to be sick. Now. You can go 493 00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:01.119 online and just order Gummy Bear if you want. You don't even got to 494 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:06.599 smoke at no, not if you've got a sleep DYO, you can't. 495 00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:15.360 Oh that's right, Yeah, any amounts and the DOT drug test. I 496 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.920 mean, it's the same thing if you've been smoking a grass. But you 497 00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:25.440 know I'll wake you, that's true. I forgot about the driver's license deal. 498 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:30.440 Well, yeah, that's unfortunate. That's you know. That's another thing 499 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.719 too, is that I talked to somebody about this just the other day about 500 00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:37.360 if they were injured at work. They work at a retail store and they're 501 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:43.760 injured at work, Well, if you got that in your system, even 502 00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:45.840 if it's legal in your state and whatever else, Yeah, they're not going 503 00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:52.199 to call the cops on you, but you might be disqualified from you know, 504 00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:54.519 getting workmen's comp or anything else, or maybe you lose your job. 505 00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.840 Yeah, which is another thing that you go ahead, no, no, 506 00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:04.000 no, I'm sorry, just sucks. Go ahead as you say what you 507 00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:07.960 want. Well, that's a good point. I don't know how it works 508 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.840 in the states where it has been legalized that and I don't know. I 509 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.840 know Washington was working on a threshold a few years ago for what was, 510 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.880 you know, high and driving and you know, things of that nature. 511 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:22.760 And I've never asked anybody of you up called it, right, And I'm 512 00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.480 out there about every week. I'll see if I can find something out about 513 00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:30.000 that. But probably five or six years ago, I guess it was. 514 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.519 I started hearing different people saying that a lot of places wasn't drug testing, 515 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.400 you know, pre employment drug testing. The first thing came to my mind, 516 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.519 Well, when you get hurt and if it's something to a mouth, 517 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:49.719 of something other and you've got you know, some of that new system and 518 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:52.400 you go down there and you have to take a drug test that that's going 519 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:57.639 to be used against year hit very well could be, yeah, because I 520 00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.599 know in you know, safean states, if you're considered I or have you 521 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.800 know, drugs and your system that boarded the workers compensation. From what I 522 00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:10.039 understand, I may be wrong on it now now that's been several years since 523 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:15.480 I've really looked into well, I know it still does void workmen's comp in 524 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:20.239 a lot of places and avoids other things too. And here's the thing. 525 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:25.000 Look, you contract with with your employer. Uh, you made an agreement, 526 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:29.440 so your agreement has to include that in some way, right, I 527 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.719 mean, even you're it's the law. I don't understand how they got away 528 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:39.159 with it in Tennessee because from what I had understood that to be a part 529 00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:45.000 of the Tennessee I don't know. I can't remember exactly what the kyle at 530 00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:50.719 Tennessee workplace development or whatever. But you know you had to do drug tests 531 00:40:50.760 --> 00:40:53.480 and and you know things like it, and you know pre employment you know, 532 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.360 and whatever. But it's pretty I'm pretty sure where it's the law in 533 00:40:57.480 --> 00:41:00.840 most states, you've got to take a drug test, you know, after 534 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.000 you've had to home the job, you know, accident or injury. You 535 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.800 know, I guess it's more than a paper cut or you know, something 536 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:13.559 other. But well, yeah, now i've seen that represented as it's a 537 00:41:13.679 --> 00:41:20.239 requirement because of the insurance that they have. I've never seen that absolutely represented 538 00:41:20.360 --> 00:41:23.519 as a legal issue. They tell you that you legally have to, but 539 00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:29.079 I think that's because you've signed an agreement as an employee. I think that's 540 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:31.679 what the problem is there, Like you made a contract. That's what it 541 00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:37.840 is. Yeah, I mean, that's my main line. Is what gets 542 00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:39.800 truck drivers is and I don't want to you know, it take ten minutes 543 00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.280 to explain it, but pretty much, whether it's the lills are made, 544 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.000 you could somebody could say that, oh yeah, I told him to go 545 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:50.960 take a drug test when you tiled in and you know, cuss somebody out, 546 00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.119 so you're gonna quit, And once you got back and cleaned your truck 547 00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:58.239 out, they could turn you in for you refuse taking a drug test. 548 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.360 I mean asked the way that you know, the dollars are basically you know 549 00:42:01.800 --> 00:42:07.079 in place from what I understand, but you know, it's it's a harsh, 550 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:12.880 but like when it comes like the accidents and stuff, there's like a 551 00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.880 little bit of a threshold there that you know, you have to go do 552 00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.079 a scored on how bad it is. If it's like, you know, 553 00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.360 somebody bumps into you or something. It's one thing, you know, somebody's 554 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.920 coming through the parking lot here, like I'm parked over here on the edge 555 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:30.800 of a few miles right now away. Like if somebody came through here and 556 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:34.679 scrape side of my truck a little bit, you know, it wouldn't you 557 00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:42.079 know, result in anything like that. But if you know he hit somebody 558 00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.480 here in the parking lot and take a hood off or something, you know, 559 00:42:45.559 --> 00:42:49.480 I'm sure that's going to be. And you know there's also breathalyzers you 560 00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.320 know when that kicks in and things like that. But you know, we 561 00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:58.599 got different you know, schedules for drug testing and want a lot of other 562 00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:04.400 you know different you know, like a factory worker for example, like you 563 00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.000 know what be Pay's done where he's in construction, he may have a different 564 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.639 one than what a factory worker does right right, Well, see, but 565 00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.239 there's the thing is, it's about liability. I think, which is a 566 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.960 weird nexus of stuff where you have laws that come into play as well as 567 00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:23.119 agreements that you have with your employer. Uh, and there are standards in 568 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:30.239 industries that are just kind of enforced. And I never quite understand exactly what 569 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.000 people's real position is there what you can be compelled to do, because on 570 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.119 the one hand, somebody will just say, well, that's a law, 571 00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.960 but it's not necessarily show me the law. You know, there isn't necessarily 572 00:43:40.039 --> 00:43:45.760 a law that states it. Sometimes however, as a condition of say you 573 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.880 having a particular license, it may be part of that agreement. Right. 574 00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:53.800 Well, yeah, they've got us in a in a federal clearance house now, 575 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:59.719 and you know that. What I don't understand is is, you know, 576 00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:02.159 they're there's ways that you can fell a drug test where you've not been 577 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.639 let's say, out here, getting higher partying or whatever. And they've got 578 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:12.719 these programs you can get into and stuff like that. But you know, 579 00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.400 some of that, I think it's all according on who it is, you 580 00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:20.440 know what I mean, and what they've done, and you know what's alleged 581 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:23.199 or you know whatever. But you know, if you've got somebody that's been 582 00:44:23.280 --> 00:44:27.280 out here driving fucked up. I mean, they just need to be cut 583 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:30.920 completely out. But I think a lot of this clearing house stuff in the 584 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:35.159 SAP program as they call it, if anybody wants to look into it, 585 00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:40.079 a return to work program, I think that's just a that's just a money 586 00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.159 gimmick. You know, if you get caught. It's like somebody was telling 587 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:49.079 me the other day. We was talking about somebody that had failed to drug 588 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.960 test. But you know, this is what kind of blows my mind. 589 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:58.159 If you get caught drunk driving, unless say like the illegal which is in 590 00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:01.920 most states is a point of wait, and you blow up point one, 591 00:45:02.039 --> 00:45:07.239 Oh that used to be legal, for example, Well you're gonna be screwed 592 00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.920 up for five or six years if you if you're driving, if you have 593 00:45:09.960 --> 00:45:14.239 a CDL, you might as well forget it, forget about it for five 594 00:45:14.360 --> 00:45:19.679 or ten years down the road. Well, if you know you've been out 595 00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:22.119 here, you know, piled up the truck stop for three days, and 596 00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:27.679 you know, smoking in a pot and you know, snorting tails or whatever, 597 00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.639 and you go down the road and you know, have a little wreck 598 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.280 or something, or you get piled in, say like a couple of days 599 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:37.440 later. Once you get back in and you know, for just a random 600 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:42.800 drug test and you light it up. Well on paper, you could go 601 00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.239 through this SOAUTH program spend several thousand dollars and I think it takes a couple 602 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.079 of months. I'm not really certain, because you know, I don't fool 603 00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.280 with that kind of stuff. But anyway, we can be right back out 604 00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:58.440 on the road with a lot of places. I don't think that's really fair, 605 00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:00.800 you know, I sthing. I think they should be thresholds, especially 606 00:46:01.639 --> 00:46:06.440 you know on this drinking and driving give me. I think that they've got 607 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.679 got that cut down, you know, way too much. Yeah. But 608 00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:13.440 on the other hand, orlean, I don't think it's fair for somebody if 609 00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.039 they, you know, decide to smoke a joint one night and then they 610 00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:22.239 pop a drug test after something happens that isn't necessarily caused by that, you 611 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:25.360 know, Uh, they smoke a joints later, you know, two days 612 00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.719 later, they get into an accident. I mean, it's got nothing to 613 00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.360 do with the joint they smoke two days earlier, but it's still in their 614 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:34.519 system if they got to take a test right then, right, you know, 615 00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:36.880 And to me, it's like, well, it's the same way with 616 00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:39.320 me if I'm around it and breeze it and get it in my system or 617 00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.599 any way, okay, and you get pupped for a drug test, it's 618 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.199 like you spent now, you know. If you touch something out here in 619 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.199 public and a little bit of it gets in your system or whatever and you 620 00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.360 get popped for a drug test next day or too, well, it's gonna 621 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.960 be well, yeah, we've heard that shit before, you know what I'm 622 00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:02.480 saying. Yeah, Well, unfortunately that's true too. It's a it's a 623 00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.480 dark area, you know, because on the one hand, I can see 624 00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:10.239 the argument for like, obviously there are certain things you don't want people to 625 00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.039 be having a drug problem for. Okay, Uh, you know, I'm 626 00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:19.480 not so concerned if the guy working in McDonald's has a drug problem. I'm 627 00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.280 really not, you know what I mean. But then again, if somebody's 628 00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:29.440 handling a big old truck and they're driving chemicals around or dangerous stuff or whatever, 629 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:35.880 I'd kind of rather they weren't high, you know. And all I'm 630 00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.679 saying is I just think that it's just completely unreasonable. And it's not only 631 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.559 truck drivers that a lot of there's different things you know, under the federal 632 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:50.320 that is. I'm just saying that they should. They some cat that have 633 00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:53.800 absolutely no tolerance. As much of it is out here today, you know 634 00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:58.599 what I mean, Yeah, there is much it's out in public as much 635 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.280 that's that's so called is main paperle sloiling with it. You've got a lot 636 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.320 more you know, chance coming in contact with it versus what you would have 637 00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:13.320 ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. I think that hav an absolutely no 638 00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:15.880 tolerance. I think it's just that's too much, you know what I mean, 639 00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.599 No, I hear you, especially when they drop the they drop the 640 00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.960 alcohol rates and all these other things. It's it's I don't know, it's 641 00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:27.159 such a dicey thing where it's just hard to you know, it's hard to 642 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:30.880 even make a definitive. I mean, i'd love to see a universal standard 643 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.320 for this kind of stuff too, but then again, who's going to enforce 644 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:36.920 that? And and by the way, you know, is it about the 645 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.199 contract you have because of your employment? Again, that's that's something that I 646 00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:45.719 figured people can work out within reason. But but outside of that, I 647 00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:47.519 don't know, it's it's just such a dicey, messy thing. I'm gonna 648 00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:51.039 put you on hold. Temporarily. Harlan, though, bring you back around 649 00:48:51.079 --> 00:48:53.039 in a minute, because, uh, we got Captain Tripps on the skype, 650 00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.159 and uh, I know this is an interesting topic to him, so 651 00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.280 I wanted to bring him around again before I get back around to BPTE and 652 00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:04.719 see what he's got to say about any of this. So, Captain Trips, 653 00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:08.360 how you doing, man, I'm doing fine. My answer is f 654 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:15.000 the state f they're stupid, corrupt regulations. Piss on them all fair enough. 655 00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:20.000 And look I can understand that as well. Yeah, yeah, I 656 00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:23.440 get it. I get the lock I Harlan. I think, and I 657 00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:29.639 could be completely wrong on this, but I think because CDLs, I think, 658 00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.920 I think it's not exactly the same. But like the FAA, since 659 00:49:32.920 --> 00:49:37.039 it's a federal regulation, I think it's a fedal rule. I don't think 660 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:43.760 it's an actual law. I think for as far as drug testing, and 661 00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.360 I think that might be the same in healthcare, because the FEDS regulate everything 662 00:49:46.400 --> 00:49:51.639 in healthcare. So I think it's anything the FEDS put their fingers in and 663 00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.320 their little minions right there, little you know, right there, little rules 664 00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.159 that no one gets to have any say in. I think that's how they 665 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.840 get away with it, although and you certainly get the other side of the 666 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.159 argument. You don't want someone driving around a tanker truck full of full of 667 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.840 flammable liquid. That's that's just hit the bong and you know, threw down 668 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:13.119 a six path before here she got behind the wheels. No, I get 669 00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.360 it. I get it too. And the thing about the FEDS and regulating 670 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:19.559 this stuff, I think with the rules in a lot of cases are based 671 00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:22.719 on, look, we give you a license, so if you break our 672 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.880 rules, we can take your license away. I mean, I think that's 673 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.000 the game that's played, which is a little different than a law per se, 674 00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:36.639 right where you violated that way it is in healthcare, Yeah, and 675 00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:38.920 that's I know they do that in healthcare, that's for sure. Yeah, 676 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:44.840 But it's you know, it's very it's very similar. And I've never had 677 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:46.960 I never had any issues, but I you know, or have been in 678 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.639 this field long enough that I've known my fair share of people who have, 679 00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:53.280 and yet they don't. They don't, at least in healthcare, they don't 680 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:57.840 generally take your license away. For a first sense, you got to go 681 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.239 through all the you know, the rehab and the training and the you know, 682 00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.320 jump through all the hoops, and it's probably very similar. If you 683 00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.880 read a big enough check, they'll push you through quicker, right see. 684 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.719 But like he was saying, it's that program they have for truck drivers right 685 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.119 where it's like, if you pay a bunch and you pay a couple thousand 686 00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.639 dollars in this and that, you can get into a program where you'll probably 687 00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.880 be able to get back on the road quickly. And isn't that the case 688 00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.000 where and here's the thing again, there's two sides to that where it's like, 689 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.159 look, you're contracting with them to get a license to do something. 690 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:34.159 So therefore, what am I to say about it? You know what I 691 00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:37.280 mean? Uh, you have your choice. You can go into another business, 692 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:42.360 can't you. You know, I know that sounds ridiculous, But at 693 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.239 the same time, what are you gonna do? But it's way more complex 694 00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.000 than I think a lot of people like to represent it. Same time, 695 00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:52.880 though, the last thing you want is an anesthesiologist who is uh, you 696 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.039 know, two stone to read his own notes or something, because boy, 697 00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:00.519 that can suck real quick. And I know I know because I had an 698 00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.599 anasthesiologists one time when I was getting shots in the back. I was getting 699 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:08.199 those you know, those epidural shots they were doing for us. Well, 700 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:12.400 no, not the cortizone, the epidural thing where they actually tap you and 701 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.800 they you know, you actually got to go in and you got to be 702 00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:19.880 there for a while and they go in and so they first give you a 703 00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:25.559 drip of some benzo cocktail which the anesthesiologist has to deliver to you. And 704 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.800 apparently they did something where it's supposed to be you know, this amount of 705 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:37.440 times three, and they did something like times three times three, which was 706 00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.559 because I had a high tolerance, it should have went times three, which 707 00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:44.360 would have given me, you know, hypothetically three times the dose that they 708 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:47.239 would normally recommend for somebody because of my tolerance levels. I don't know what 709 00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.800 the equation should have been, but you see, if you multiply that by 710 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:59.199 three times, now you're approaching a lethal level. So they shot me up 711 00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.440 with this, and they were monitored and they they you know, and you 712 00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:06.719 also know, it's an interesting case where they're monitoring your you know, your 713 00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.000 heart rate and your your oxygen levels. They got a thing on your finger, 714 00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:13.519 they're monitoring your oxygen, they're monitoring your heart you can hear you know, 715 00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.880 the beep beep. It's almost like a surgical situation, but you're kind 716 00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:22.599 of just in a twilight because of the benzo cocktail. Right. Well, 717 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.320 anyway, they give you that by IV. Well, I remember I'm laying 718 00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:29.239 there and all of a sudden, I was like, oh, I don't 719 00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:34.559 feel good, and people ran from all corners of the facility to attend to 720 00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:42.800 me because apparently my heart rate kind of just about when flat and uh so, 721 00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:45.760 and there's an and I'm not saying my anesthesiologist was high. I'm just 722 00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:51.400 saying that was a mistake that they made, and they were really really happy 723 00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.320 that they didn't have to resuscitate me. Really, they were actually able to 724 00:53:54.360 --> 00:54:01.079 bring me around pretty quick because again high tolerance for some odd reason. But 725 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:05.480 they gave me the kind of dose where like somebody could easily be slipped into 726 00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:09.039 a medical coma. And I was like, I mean, I remember the 727 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.960 lights went strange and I went into slow motion mode, you know, like 728 00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.960 the world slowed down, and I went, oh, this is good. 729 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.239 That was you know, my world for a minute, and it was yeah, 730 00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:28.039 somehow they had done Okay, we want to give them three times the 731 00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.760 normal dose, but they did that three times three times, which apparently ends 732 00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:37.880 up with twenty seven times average dose. I don't know how it works, 733 00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:42.599 but I don't know how the paperwork works, trips. But maybe you're more 734 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:46.119 familiar with this than I am. But because you've assisted in surgeries, I 735 00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:50.960 know that, right. Oh yeah, And I do. I do conscious 736 00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.440 dation. I administer consciousnation. And in my world, believe it or not, 737 00:54:55.400 --> 00:55:01.880 if you're doing surgery at the bedside on a knee in eight typically you 738 00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:07.480 don't really want anesthesia messing with the baby. No, No, we usually, 739 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:12.280 we usually do. I mean I've I've played anesthesiologists more than my fair 740 00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:16.480 share of times. So yeah, I mean it it depends on the you 741 00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:21.360 know, when it how long ago was it too? This was? How 742 00:55:21.559 --> 00:55:24.320 how many years back? Are we talking? Probably two thousand and four or 743 00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:29.320 five? Okay, yeah, yeah. So a lot of the a lot 744 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:31.159 of the current I don't want to say sales case, but a lot of 745 00:55:31.199 --> 00:55:38.079 the current safety mechanisms that are used now that that would prevent that that dosing 746 00:55:38.239 --> 00:55:42.960 error. And that's not to say they don't happen, but it, you 747 00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:46.400 know, they I hate to I hate to pat my profession on the reason. 748 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:49.880 The reason for that, though, I'll tell you this just really fast, 749 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.280 just to make you understand. The reasoning is that they're gonna stick you 750 00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:57.360 in the spinal in the spine, so if they're going into the spinal cord 751 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.239 directly, they don't want you to move. So that's why they should hate 752 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.920 you. And that's what the point was. I was supposed to be pretty 753 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.480 much immobilized and probably have no memory of it, sort of like what Dennis 754 00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:14.639 do. Okay, And yeah, and I definitely I maintained a memory of 755 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.320 it, and they still gave me my shot, which I thought was funny. 756 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.960 But but first they wanted to make sure that my heart rate, you 757 00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.079 know, had gone to this weird level where they feel like I heard it 758 00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:30.480 slow down, And yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have been I would 759 00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.519 have been too keen on sticking a needle in your back. After all that 760 00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:38.559 they have actually been your blood pressure, Yeah, well that dropped pretty bad 761 00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:43.679 too. And I'll tell you what's funny, as I remember, the funniest 762 00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:45.960 part of that is that the the blood that was coming from the the I 763 00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:49.880 V was not done right either. That was the other funny part. But 764 00:56:50.000 --> 00:56:53.199 I mean, they gave me an IV separate to uh to administer that stuff 765 00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:57.039 to me. And I remember looking down, going, that's funny. My 766 00:56:57.119 --> 00:57:00.440 blood's dripping onto the floor from where the I V was stuck in and all 767 00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.320 that was going on, like I was observing how slow the blood was moving 768 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:10.519 because the whole world had slowed down. I was like, Oh, that's 769 00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:19.039 my blood's dripping and this doesn't feel good. That's all I could think of. 770 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:22.800 Like I wasn't I wasn't even aware of what was happening. Anyway. 771 00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:28.079 One of the one of the one of the most common causes of death in 772 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:32.239 the hospital is the medical premature being provided with. There you go. No, 773 00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:36.519 I just figured i'd throw that in another fun story from Yes, but 774 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:45.519 why I don't trust doctors reason number eighty seven. I'd need an old Yellow 775 00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:49.159 Pages to fill out my reason. There you go. But anyway, Sorry, 776 00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:51.000 when you know, when you know how the sausage is made, you 777 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:52.559 don't want to eat it. Well, that's the other thing you're actually in 778 00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.920 this business. That's why I love talking to you about. Anyway, I'm 779 00:57:55.960 --> 00:58:02.760 sorry I derailed your time though. Uh So, okay, cool, Well 780 00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:07.039 let's get back around to be Pete then, and because I don't want to 781 00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:09.960 put him to sleep and my co host needs to get his time in too 782 00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.360 interesting topics brought up so far? Be Pete? What do you think? 783 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:25.119 Okay? Now? Is that your final answer? See? I can't tell 784 00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.400 if that's snoring or a bomb? What do you guys think? Is that 785 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:32.239 snoring? Right? What's the topic? Oh? What is the top? 786 00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:37.280 What are we on? Are we going back to hemp or were going to 787 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.719 We need to legalize hemp. I got a whole bunch of stuff I'm ready 788 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:43.280 to put in production, but I'm not going to do it because nobody wants 789 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:49.000 to touch it. Because we didn't enact this imp act until like what twenty 790 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.719 twenty or was it twenty twenty one? The AD Department finally put out their 791 00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:58.079 their rules on it. And the only thing between hamp and the only difference 792 00:58:58.119 --> 00:59:01.239 between hamp and marijuana is the thh content. That's it, right, And 793 00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:07.320 yet they've still got hemp stuck as a Schedule one drug because it's a distant 794 00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.039 cousin to marijuana. Right. You know, back during the War on Drugs 795 00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.119 is when they started clamping down. They didn't stop hemp production until what the 796 00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:22.079 mid twentieth century, eighteenth, nineteenth century legal stuff made out. In fact, 797 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.719 it was used for sales. I didn't know this. It was used 798 00:59:25.760 --> 00:59:30.880 for sales and ships. And that's where the world canvas. The word canvas 799 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:35.320 came from, was from the word cannabis. Really, it's weird. I 800 00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:37.440 was not aware of that. Had you ever? Wow? I never heard 801 00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:43.559 that before? Cool was not aware. Yeah, Hemp is apparently a very 802 00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.920 useful, multiply multiple purpose fiber for all kinds of stuff, cloth, paper, 803 00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.360 it's the strongest I've read a thing just the other day. And I'm 804 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:57.039 researching this because there's a lot of products that we've used in my business that 805 00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.280 could be made out of hemp and be made cheaply in provide jobs for people. 806 01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:02.719 You know, if that's the big thing, it could be a big 807 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.480 industry if they just go ahead and get it off schedule one. But they 808 01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.519 won't, and so a lot of people don't want to mess with it because 809 01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.559 you have to get your permit from the DEA, and you have to destroy 810 01:00:14.760 --> 01:00:19.559 all your plants over a certain THHC level. It's all this rigmarole you got 811 01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:23.719 to go through. But I read something the other day white I think it's 812 01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:32.000 white spider silk is considered the strongest natural fiber produced him is the strongest plant 813 01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:42.519 based item compared to silk. It's that good. It lasts a long time, 814 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.519 is durability, its strength. But because of these stupid drug laws, 815 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:49.920 we can't. It's a hassle to try to get in and use it for 816 01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.159 manufacturing. You know. It's a shame. And what's wild about it is 817 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:58.239 I've seen stuff done where they show like a plastic like substance that is made 818 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.599 of hemp, which is really interesting. And years ago I had a guy 819 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:07.280 on my show that was talking about the concept of hemp crete, which is 820 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:12.679 like this building out material building. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of 821 01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.559 concrete. I'll give you an example. I know you've seen them. The 822 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:21.840 huge sheets of gas stations started up in Pennsylvania, work their way down through 823 01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:23.599 here. I don't know, do y'all have them in Georgia sheets? Well, 824 01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:29.199 I saw them in North Carolina and I think one or two here. 825 01:01:29.320 --> 01:01:32.760 Yeah. When they when they do their parking lots, used to store would 826 01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:36.800 come in and pave a parking lot. These guys build it out of about 827 01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.760 ten inches of concrete. But in all the concrete mixes they use. They 828 01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:45.800 mix in fiberglass as a strengthening fiber. You can do that with hemp. 829 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:52.280 You can make soundproofing bricks out of a hemp mixture. Yep, it's it's 830 01:01:52.519 --> 01:02:00.960 so versatile viadegradable plastics. I don't know about ethanol production if they would switch 831 01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:06.480 to him, considering hemp only takes about one hundred days to grow and it 832 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:13.320 doesn't take much water, and it's not bad on the environment to keep planning 833 01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.840 it. It's also a good erosion preventter. But you know, you could 834 01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:23.639 process it and make all of these different products. If you could produce it 835 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:29.760 for ethanol, corn prices would come down. Course, farmers out there in 836 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:32.159 Iowa, North Dakota ain't gonna like it, but it could compete with that, 837 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.880 and you'd have so many other products. The price would come down because 838 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:42.599 the price of corn would come down. You know, there's so many economic 839 01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:47.280 benefits to using him, and it were just crazy for not taking advantage of 840 01:02:47.360 --> 01:02:52.840 that, especially as much agriculture as we have in this country. And it 841 01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:55.440 would bring back manufacturing, and in a lot of cases it would be green 842 01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:00.719 manufacturing. You think it would catch on, but nobody he's got the point 843 01:03:00.760 --> 01:03:04.320 yet. See that's the other thing. What was it the one guy bainer 844 01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.639 was it who left Congress right, decided that he was jumping on board actually 845 01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:14.239 with uh, with the hemp business, right, And now it's actually gonna 846 01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:19.719 know he went he went into the he went into the oil business, and 847 01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:25.079 the market got flooded very quick on CBD products. Oh. I know a 848 01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:30.360 guy here that had permits to grow. He grew for two years and then 849 01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:34.880 just ended up couldn't unload his product because there was just a glut on the 850 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:40.239 market. Everybody jumped into it at once. Yeah, well you would think 851 01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:45.039 that there's enough of it, enough of a demand for it to go around. 852 01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.360 Like I said, I mean nowadays even on I don't know how often 853 01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.159 do I get these Maybe it's just me, but I get YouTube commercials all 854 01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.800 the time now. And at one point I was actually talking to the company 855 01:03:54.840 --> 01:04:01.000 that makes primarily gummy bears, which can tamed all sorts of different levels of 856 01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:06.159 hemp based products, including very loaded THHC stuff that they say is level in 857 01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:11.159 all fifty states now, which I don't understand that because still not legal in 858 01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.840 Georgia to my knowledge. But anyway, uh, they're having trouble enforcing it 859 01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:20.000 though in Georgia, which is funny, uh that this idea with the the 860 01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:27.400 yeah, is CBD oil allowed down there? Yeah? Only up to this, 861 01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.199 Yeah, only up to a very minuscule level of THHD, like this 862 01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.920 super micro amount of THC is allowed in the oil, because you always end 863 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:40.320 up with a little bit apparently. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 864 01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.960 like I think it's it's it's either point three or point oh three percent. 865 01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.719 I think you guys are talking about all these this this delta eight and all 866 01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:53.679 these these funky cannabinoids that that these lab scientists have come up with. My 867 01:04:53.880 --> 01:04:59.480 understanding of it is because there's because it's there's the there's the two different plants, 868 01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:03.400 the stuff that you can buy pretty much anywhere now, which is I 869 01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:08.480 think I'll just use the delta eight terms when there's like cdn, CBD, 870 01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:15.639 CDG, all sorts of different letter combinations. My understanding is that it's it's 871 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:21.480 you know, the molecular structure is just slightly different than tetrahydrocannabinol or you know 872 01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:26.320 what we're all used to is cannabis, Well, it is under the odd 873 01:05:26.400 --> 01:05:34.599 cut. Yeah, the difference is in pot In cannabis marijuana, you have 874 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:41.840 high concentrations of THHC. In him, you have higher concentrations of the cannabinoids, 875 01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:46.760 which counteracts the effects of the THHC. So it's the only difference between 876 01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:51.480 the two plants is the level of THC of the plant. It's basically the 877 01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:56.480 same plant. Yeah, there is a that's that different molecular structure. The 878 01:05:56.559 --> 01:06:02.840 more cannabinoids versus the more THHC in, the more potent issues. So I 879 01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:09.000 thought a lot of four audiences of him. Yeah, yeah, I knew 880 01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:12.360 that. I thought a lot of these new products though it was a lot 881 01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.920 of it was rav contury, meaning you know, you you need to be 882 01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:18.960 you need to have the equipment and be able to process the hemp point to 883 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:25.239 get these particular subt out of the hemp plant in order to get yeah, 884 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:29.079 the high that they're looking to make it still legal, Yeah, you do. 885 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.280 It depends because when I talked to my friend, you know, he 886 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.559 was in it for the oil business, he wasn't really familiar with the fiber 887 01:06:35.800 --> 01:06:41.760 end of it, and there's so many industrial uses for the fibers. Yeah, 888 01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.239 so he put me on with a guy that's with the North Carolina Department 889 01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:49.719 of Agriculture with them having permits to grow in this state. He's kind of 890 01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:55.440 the liaison between what you got to do to meet the federal requirements because, 891 01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:59.599 like I said, one until what twenty twenty one that the Act Department finally 892 01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:03.880 came out with their rules that will allow you to produce. Yeah, it 893 01:07:04.039 --> 01:07:06.880 was in committee for the longest time. It was supposed to be out in 894 01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:12.320 like twenty twenty. It took them another year because of COVID, but they 895 01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:19.039 still haven't removed the hem classification from Schedule one. Now, somebody, I 896 01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:24.159 don't know whether it was a senator or remember the House, made a comment 897 01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:29.719 that they were going to make a move to try to get it lowered down 898 01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:34.159 the schedule level at the DEA so that I can hear that you could produce. 899 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:42.000 Yeah, you could produce under certain limits with your permits for different purposes. 900 01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:47.880 But with these states making it legal, though, you may see pressure 901 01:07:48.880 --> 01:07:53.159 to just go ahead and legalize it nationally. I know it's been kicked around 902 01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:57.559 a couple of times. Our state tabled a discussion on making it legal for 903 01:07:58.639 --> 01:08:01.880 I think it's legal for medical per is. The Cherokee Nation up at Cherokee. 904 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:08.599 North Carolina just voted in medical use, and they I think they're getting 905 01:08:08.599 --> 01:08:12.880 ready to vote in personal use as well. Yeah, we have we have 906 01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.760 medical we have medical use here in Florida. And I heard, and I 907 01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:19.000 have not confirmed this, but I heard that we're supposed to have a ballot 908 01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:25.960 referendum in twenty four on recreational use, which would be i'd be interesting to 909 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:30.399 see here. I'm sure, I mean, I'm sure it'll pass. I'm 910 01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:32.119 just i'd be kind of interesting to see. And I you know what, 911 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:36.319 I haven't looked into exactly how you can get a ballot referendum in Florida, 912 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:42.520 because I want to get one on philosophical vaccination jumption. And there's a funny 913 01:08:43.720 --> 01:08:46.680 and there's a funny exception to all of this stuff, which is under believe 914 01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:51.199 it or not, under the Obamacare, you know, under the UH Affordable 915 01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:58.479 Care Act Obamacare, Right, there's this thing they call compassionate medicine, which 916 01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:05.039 is this concept which is statuatorially should allow use for medical purposes in all fifty 917 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:12.000 states under federal law. But it depends on how you view it. Okay, 918 01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.319 It's it's really interesting that part of that law actually kind of opens opens 919 01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:24.199 up the floodgates if somebody applies it, because yeah, there's this idea that 920 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:28.880 even if you're in a state that doesn't even have the mechanism to get you 921 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:32.760 that legalization, if you have, like say, a medical marijuana card in 922 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:39.000 another state, uh, you know, they're supposed to accept it be your 923 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:45.359 Yeah, which is a weird thing they did, and nobody ever talks about 924 01:09:45.399 --> 01:09:49.399 that part of Obamacare. But anyway, it's an interesting point. Yeah, 925 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:54.119 go ahead. Sorry. Well, another thing too, a lot of a 926 01:09:54.199 --> 01:09:58.760 lot of companies, insurance companies won the rule when it comes to a business. 927 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.199 Yes, a business will bend over backwards when it comes to what their 928 01:10:01.279 --> 01:10:05.880 insurance company will require of And even though you have it legalized in states, 929 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:12.399 there was a an a there was one of these talks where they got a 930 01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:15.199 bunch of people together on Zoom or something and they were discussing the legalities of 931 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.479 it and how much the insurance companies were pushing for it, and that's why 932 01:10:18.520 --> 01:10:21.960 you have drug testing in the workplace now. It's simply because of the insurance 933 01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:28.399 companies. But with it being legal in the state, they're falling back on 934 01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:31.600 the federal government and saying well, we don't care. It's still illegal according 935 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.920 to the federal government, and through the federal government, the EA. They 936 01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:43.359 put all of these rules at the Federal Department of Transportation, which covers Harlan 937 01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:47.119 and his situation on not even being able to have a trade show up on 938 01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:55.680 your on your physical, uh, your analysis, and so it's all up 939 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:59.880 to the insurance companies. Until the Feds changed to the schedule level, you're 940 01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:02.359 not going to see anybody back off. And even then, I don't know 941 01:11:02.520 --> 01:11:08.760 that the insurance companies are going to tell employers it may be legal. We 942 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:14.800 still don't you know, if if you're employee test positive, you have some 943 01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:19.159 of the liability. M we'll only cover so much because it's their fault. 944 01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:24.920 They're high right. Well look with that, uh, I don't know if 945 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:33.840 anybody heard that, but pretty Ellen, you're Chunter Shelley. You know it's 946 01:11:33.880 --> 01:11:38.439 Shunk and Shelley. This is James Corbyn at Corter Report dot com. And 947 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:51.680 you're listening to the Affect dot com, Wall Window dot gol Simler the stock 948 01:11:51.800 --> 01:12:00.239 market, wall Stream Window dott. Perhaps you're invested deeply, perhaps you're in 949 01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:04.000 deep enough, Maybe you're thinking about getting started Wall Street, Windows, don 950 01:12:04.119 --> 01:12:08.800 Com, Doo, don com. Michael Swanson, the brilliant author of the 951 01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:13.800 War State, understood these trends professionally for many years, and now he gives 952 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:20.079 you the benefit of his knowledge. Wall Street, Streamdow dot com. Go 953 01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:34.319 there, now, go there, now, go there now revelation through conversation. 954 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:39.199 Go ahead, callin in the truth about the day of Hey assassination. 955 01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:42.560 Right, well, what do you want to know Judy Baker's wild claim oswal 956 01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:45.680 girlfriends you knew Ruby and Barry cancer weapons? Really, I imagine I could 957 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.520 claim I have four wheels. It doesn't make me a wagon, but okay, 958 01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:53.960 building and trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy. Come on now 959 01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:57.439 has a real effort on the day of hay assassination. Go into claims. 960 01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.840 Go to Amazon dot com entered Judith Baker in her own words. You'll get 961 01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:06.479 the results for a digital copy of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own 962 01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:13.000 words and the known evidence in the case to get at well a different perspective. 963 01:13:13.119 --> 01:13:15.920 Let's say you can get Judith Barry Baker in her own words from the 964 01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:20.439 author himself, signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at k I 965 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:26.520 a s JFK at aol dot com. It's a fun book and it actually 966 01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:31.000 dissects the many, many fantastic claims. Judith very Baker, in her own 967 01:13:31.079 --> 01:14:58.920 words, thank you for all the great information. The War State by Michael 968 01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:02.880 Swanson explains the great national transformation that took place and put the Kennedy presidency in 969 01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:08.600 the context of the times, and reveals never before published information about the Cuban 970 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:13.119 missile crisis. President Kennedy would not have been assassinated if he had been president 971 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:16.560 two hundred years ago. His assassination took place in the context of the Cold 972 01:15:16.640 --> 01:15:20.359 War and the rise of the national security state. Before World War II, 973 01:15:20.560 --> 01:15:25.399 the United States was a continental republic. In the decade that followed, it 974 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:30.520 became an imperial superpower. Generals such as Curtis LeMay not only wanted to invade 975 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:33.079 Cuba, but knew that there were short range missiles on the island armed with 976 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:38.560 nuclear warheads that they could not destroy because they were on mobile launchers. Their 977 01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:42.640 invasion could have led to a Third World War, and they wanted to go 978 01:15:42.720 --> 01:15:46.680 to war anyway. The War State by Michael Swanson reveals why and will show 979 01:15:46.680 --> 01:15:51.359 you what President Kennedy was up against for more information the Warstate dot com. 980 01:15:51.840 --> 01:16:08.680 Ohhilly dot com. Get Ready, get ready? Second segment of the live 981 01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:13.840 open mic here on a Friday night, and uh that that loud bang noise. 982 01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:15.920 You might hear it again soon, who knows. Uh yeah, I 983 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:19.720 think somebody's just popping off shots in the neighborhood. But uh, you know, 984 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:28.600 gotta stay calm. Anyways, Welcome to micking Jojo. Hopefully you're doing 985 01:16:28.680 --> 01:16:31.279 well out there and nobody's doing that near your house anyways. Three one nine 986 01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:36.239 five two seven five zero one six three one nine five two seven five zero 987 01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:40.640 one six. I gotta laugh, you know what am I gonna do? 988 01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:45.119 Anyway? We've talked about Kiss and their discography, We've talked about him, 989 01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:48.039 We've talked about drug testing. A few other things have gone on here. 990 01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:51.439 I guess Vance kind of really got the ball rolling to start with. So 991 01:16:51.439 --> 01:16:55.520 I'm gonna get back around to him. Anybody else wants to join us, 992 01:16:55.560 --> 01:16:59.560 though, three one nine five two seven five zero one six will probably go 993 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.560 to well, let's see what time is it. I don't know. I'm 994 01:17:01.600 --> 01:17:08.000 guessing we'll at least take it to a quarter after ten pm at least something 995 01:17:08.039 --> 01:17:10.880 like that anyway. I don't know if we're going to get another break in, 996 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:14.079 but we'll do it. We'll do anyways we do, we do. 997 01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.600 Yeah, I'm sounding good now, aren't I? All right? So be 998 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:21.119 Pete? Where should we go next? Should we bring Vance back in? 999 01:17:21.359 --> 01:17:25.159 Get everybody back around to see what they have to say about what was talked 1000 01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:31.560 about while they were waiting or what sounds like? B Pete dropped his mic? 1001 01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:42.479 Maybe you there? Am I alone? Is anybody out there? Be 1002 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:46.319 Pete? You with me? If you can hear me? Captain Trips, 1003 01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:49.039 I can hear you. Okay, let me see. Maybe we'll be Pete. 1004 01:17:50.640 --> 01:17:56.600 Let's check. Oh it looks like not showing up on the spe here 1005 01:17:57.199 --> 01:18:00.000 we feed the the way it looks at Yeah, we did. We did 1006 01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.399 lose V Pete. All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring him back. 1007 01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:06.840 I'm gonna get Vance. Oh there comes be Pete back in again. I 1008 01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:10.800 think, yeah, I'm here. There he is, Oh, there he 1009 01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:14.520 is. I didn't know what happened. You were just suddenly gone there Vpete. 1010 01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:16.840 Sorry, Uh yeah. I went to set my coffee down, set 1011 01:18:16.880 --> 01:18:19.039 my hand on the desk, and when I did, I hit the call 1012 01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:25.880 in button figures. Go. Yeah, so I was asking you when I 1013 01:18:25.920 --> 01:18:29.359 thought I was still talking to you. I was asking you if we should 1014 01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:34.239 bring Vance back in. Yes, absolutely absolutely. You didn't know it because 1015 01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:39.479 you weren't on the line. But I was coming back from a coffee run. 1016 01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:42.000 You were coming back from a coffee run and hanging up on me. 1017 01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:45.399 Damn it, No, no, I know. Anyway, Well you did 1018 01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.439 spam me, so you know, give me a break. I spammed you, 1019 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.199 you hung up on me. We'll settle it when I see in about 1020 01:18:51.560 --> 01:18:59.000 what twelve days. Anyways, nowhere around there, Vance, Look where you 1021 01:18:59.079 --> 01:19:01.119 started. Man, you still did quite a few conversations here. What do 1022 01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:08.119 you think. I mean, this is something that needs to be you know, 1023 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:14.399 a major you know, gold to you know push. I mean, 1024 01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:19.279 every major civilization on the planet is utilized hemp, you know, not everybody, 1025 01:19:19.800 --> 01:19:24.359 the vast majority. And like the Pete said, you know, during 1026 01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:29.079 the revolution, in the Civil War, and and you know, all the 1027 01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:31.279 ships on all the boats, you know, the sails were made out of 1028 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:34.239 hemp. The ropes were made out of hemp. It took like tons and 1029 01:19:34.359 --> 01:19:39.800 tons and tons of hemp to you know, make all this stuff. And 1030 01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:43.760 the oil that they burned in the lamps, you know, was hemp oil. 1031 01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:48.880 The it's one of the I think they said it's one of the oldest 1032 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:55.479 fun fiber natural fibers on earth. It's like five thousand years ago they were 1033 01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:59.319 using it. Yeah, I mean, it's like I said, every you 1034 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.239 know, the guys supposedly testified in court you know that was with the A 1035 01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:06.079 m A at the time that you know that found out that they were talking 1036 01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:12.479 about cannabis and and went there and said, you know, look, well 1037 01:20:12.560 --> 01:20:15.680 we just found out you know that y'all are talking about cannabis. You know, 1038 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.319 with y'all saying marijuana, you know, we call it cannabis, and 1039 01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:23.319 we're studying it, and there's all this beneficial things and they already knew back 1040 01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:28.079 then and with its effects on cancer and you know all kinds of other medical 1041 01:20:28.199 --> 01:20:30.560 I mean, it's been for centuries. It's been used for medicinal purposes. 1042 01:20:30.840 --> 01:20:34.199 You know, supposedly the oil and the Bible, you know, the anointing 1043 01:20:34.279 --> 01:20:40.000 oil is hemp oil, and you know the the so it's you know, 1044 01:20:40.119 --> 01:20:45.399 there's there's no question it's just a big corporate you know, push to you 1045 01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:49.640 know, control markets and profit and you know everything, you know, all 1046 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:56.239 the paper, you know, the Constitution was written on him paper and then 1047 01:20:56.279 --> 01:20:59.680 they transferred it over to you know, sheep skins, so it would you 1048 01:20:59.760 --> 01:21:03.600 know, fancy or whatever. But but yeah, it's it's definitely an affront 1049 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:09.800 to humanity that, you know, something that actually you know is instrumental in 1050 01:21:09.920 --> 01:21:14.479 humanity. There would be no civilization as we know it if if we didn't 1051 01:21:14.520 --> 01:21:18.920 utilize hemp, and if there was any danger to society at large, it 1052 01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:24.319 would have surely been demonstrated in one of those cultures for the last five thousand, 1053 01:21:24.399 --> 01:21:28.079 two thousand years. And that's that's a quote that the guy had in 1054 01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:30.239 the trial said. And you know, they just said, okay, thanks 1055 01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:35.680 for showing up. And it's illegal anyway, So you know, it's just 1056 01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:40.720 more of the corporate drift and and you know how they suck, you know, 1057 01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:45.760 got us trapped in their you know, limited resources and and you know 1058 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:53.800 it's that. And also the Henry Ford car was made out of hemp and 1059 01:21:54.039 --> 01:21:58.680 it was designed to run on himp ethanol. So you know they've been remember 1060 01:22:00.800 --> 01:22:08.239 remember back a Cheech and Chongs movie, Up and Smoke, the vehicle that 1061 01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:13.239 was made out of fiberweed, Well, we have fiberweed. Fiberweed was around 1062 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:16.359 a long time ago, and they're using products now, like I said, 1063 01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:21.720 they're making it's about a three inch block, like a single cinder block, 1064 01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:27.000 the three inch that you would use. It's about that thick, and they 1065 01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:32.880 use it for acoustic control in buildings. They also use it. It's one 1066 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:36.880 of the biggest insulators that are used in a lot of places around the world 1067 01:22:38.399 --> 01:22:41.920 because it's stronger than cotton. You know, you could make your money out 1068 01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.439 of it rag paper, which is what we use in all of our notebooks 1069 01:22:45.479 --> 01:22:49.319 because you can get it wet and still write on it. You know, 1070 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:54.720 there's just so many thousands of uses for the stuff. It would change. 1071 01:22:55.279 --> 01:23:00.479 It would change the commercial production world from one end of the spectrum to the 1072 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:03.600 other. The various products that you could use it for. Well, the 1073 01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:06.760 wild thing about those building materials that I was telling you about that I had 1074 01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:11.560 the guy on about years ago, is that the funny thing was it was 1075 01:23:11.680 --> 01:23:16.560 way more fire resistant than the majority of stuff that people use now to build 1076 01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:20.600 houses. Yeah, like if you build houses at of hemp based stuff. 1077 01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:24.640 Somehow, I don't know how they did this, because I'm thinking to myself, 1078 01:23:24.680 --> 01:23:28.640 Well, hemp's got to burn easy, right, But somehow it becomes 1079 01:23:28.760 --> 01:23:32.159 more fire resistant when they handle it a certain way and they combine it with 1080 01:23:32.239 --> 01:23:36.560 something else, and I'm going so more fire resistant, cheaper when you do 1081 01:23:36.760 --> 01:23:41.079 decide to direct the thing and you know, drop a bunch of it into 1082 01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:44.039 a landfill, You're dropping hemp into a landfill, which is a whole lot 1083 01:23:44.119 --> 01:23:45.920 better than a lot of this other crap. I'm thinking to myself, what 1084 01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:53.720 is the downside to not switching to that for like, you know, you 1085 01:23:53.800 --> 01:23:58.199 know, residential buildings. Why is this not being used? You know, 1086 01:23:58.920 --> 01:24:04.000 I don't know. Again, well, it's the permitting that's involved in the 1087 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:09.640 production end of it that puts so many people off on it because they're over 1088 01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:14.760 regulating it based on our war on drugs, which you know, hell, 1089 01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:18.439 we've been at war what since the seventies, you know, next fifty years 1090 01:24:20.279 --> 01:24:26.119 so until they start changing some of that. But seriously, it is one 1091 01:24:26.279 --> 01:24:31.760 product that could have such an effect on such a wide arranged array of items 1092 01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:40.439 and areas and uses that it would totally change the whole the whole commercial market 1093 01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:46.079 when it comes to manufacturing production. And they've not really even looked into the 1094 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:53.159 echo friendly parts of it. Let me let me add this in real quick. 1095 01:24:53.399 --> 01:24:57.000 Is one of the things that it is famous for. Like you were 1096 01:24:57.079 --> 01:25:02.800 mentioned in the different grades of hemp or whatever, but that hemp was the 1097 01:25:02.880 --> 01:25:11.520 strongest natural fiber, and it also is the number one best thing to make 1098 01:25:11.640 --> 01:25:16.399 dynamite from, because the and the second best is like corn or something. 1099 01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:20.600 But hemp is like you know, four or five times you know more. 1100 01:25:21.000 --> 01:25:28.720 You know, the cellulose is the catalyst that they used to make dynamite from. 1101 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:36.720 So that's another another interesting part of it. I'll stop. I seriously 1102 01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:43.279 don't understand why they haven't gotten into more ethanol uses of it. You know, 1103 01:25:43.399 --> 01:25:46.520 you can use sugarcane, you can use sugar beets, you can use 1104 01:25:46.840 --> 01:25:49.880 all kinds of things to make ethanol. But the number one thing right now 1105 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:55.279 is we've got a lobby out there in the Midwest of all these corn farmers 1106 01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:59.960 that are pushing for use of corn. But corn is used in food product 1107 01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.880 almost everywhere else. So it's just artificially jacked up the price of a bushel 1108 01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:08.359 of corn for any of these producers. You know, if you could come, 1109 01:26:08.760 --> 01:26:12.600 it's so cheap and it takes so little water to grow compared to corn, 1110 01:26:13.399 --> 01:26:16.640 and you could use it to produce ethanol that would probably burn cleaner and 1111 01:26:16.720 --> 01:26:23.880 be better on engines than ethanol. And you could lower the price of so 1112 01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:27.560 many food products right off the bat by taking corn off the ethanol market. 1113 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:30.520 Of course, like I said, farmers are going to get ticked off. 1114 01:26:30.600 --> 01:26:34.800 But if we get the government out of trying to overregulate certain commodities, we 1115 01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:42.479 might see things work a little better where countries that produce certain things can take 1116 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:46.720 advantage of being the best place to produce those things and market wide, worldwide 1117 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:51.560 markets would be affected. Well, that's the other thing I keep wondering about, 1118 01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:55.600 because there are some other countries that have gone, you know, into 1119 01:26:55.680 --> 01:27:00.840 this open production, and because we have such a global market. You know, 1120 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.119 how is it not to think about it? You know, what would 1121 01:27:03.119 --> 01:27:06.800 grow best in Africa? A plant that takes very little water, grows in 1122 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:12.560 one hundred days and could be harvested and processed one hundred days. That sounds 1123 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:16.760 to me like werow anywhere though, right, Yeah, But I mean now 1124 01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:20.760 we can't we can't carry it, can't keep Africa. We can't do it 1125 01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:24.800 in Africa. We got we they need all those young children to dig up 1126 01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:29.600 all that cobalt for all these fantastic exploding electric vehicle battery. So we can't 1127 01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:32.119 have a thick and hill. Let's just let's just let's just be up front 1128 01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:36.119 there. They got to mind the damn cobalt because we're going green, man, 1129 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:40.239 We're going green. You know what I saw this weekend. You know 1130 01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:43.119 what I saw this weekend in China. But you know, we got to 1131 01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:45.319 let the kids make iPhones there, well you got nikes, you got you 1132 01:27:45.359 --> 01:27:49.319 gotta let the child slaves work in different industries because I was looking this week. 1133 01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:53.079 You know, look, I'm not a huge fan, but John Oliver 1134 01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:56.800 is back to doing his last week Tonight thing and he usually does an expos 1135 01:27:56.800 --> 01:28:00.800 a on something interesting. He did a thing on chocolate. It was either 1136 01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:02.640 this week or last week. Did you guys happen to see any of that? 1137 01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:08.520 Did you see that? Bepte? No, But it has been in 1138 01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:13.399 the news various things about chocolate and the amount of chemicals that they're finding all 1139 01:28:14.279 --> 01:28:17.479 in humans coming from chocolate consumption. Forget the forget the chemicals, right, 1140 01:28:17.720 --> 01:28:21.159 let's not even go there. Let let's just go to clean chocolate production so 1141 01:28:21.359 --> 01:28:26.039 called right, if you take a look at where they're you know, harvesting 1142 01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:31.039 the cocoa beans and the child labor involved in that. There are very few 1143 01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:34.000 companies, including your major ones, because there's only a handful of like, 1144 01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:39.960 you know, major buyers of cocoa on the pot Yeah, Lint and Nesley, 1145 01:28:40.640 --> 01:28:43.680 Swiss based companies. They've been catching hell for this child labor stuff, 1146 01:28:43.920 --> 01:28:45.399 right, And there's been a couple of these, like you know, ethical 1147 01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:49.039 ones that are trying to you know, only do business with people that are 1148 01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:53.840 guaranteeing that there isn't child labor and stuff like that. It's a whole weird 1149 01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:59.199 industry where again nobody's paying attention, but there's a whole lot of and even 1150 01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:03.399 the regular farm that aren't using child labor, they're basically being exploited to death 1151 01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:10.359 because the amount of chocolate that's being produced. They're having like no share in 1152 01:29:10.479 --> 01:29:12.920 the profit of it, even though there's you know, tons of it being 1153 01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.640 produced, especially sold in the United States, which is crazy. It's like 1154 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:20.680 an insane thing that these guys are are harvesting this crap, which, by 1155 01:29:20.680 --> 01:29:25.319 the way, have you ever seen cocoa beans? They look horrible. They're 1156 01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:29.319 this weird white pasty. They almost look like, I don't know, maggot 1157 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:33.119 larvae. Giant maggot larvae is what they look like. Cocoa beans. And 1158 01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:36.960 he was showing films of this stuff and then showing news crews going there who 1159 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:39.880 were like, you know, the companies are saying, well, we're not 1160 01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:44.079 using child labor anymore, we think, and the news crews go to show 1161 01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:45.920 up and look, and the first plantations they go to are the first places 1162 01:29:45.960 --> 01:29:49.119 that are growing it. There's kids working with sharp sticks, you know, 1163 01:29:50.720 --> 01:29:56.520 and everybody's impoverished. That's in that business and it's crazy. And that's your 1164 01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:02.000 chocolate bars alone, you know. So every business it creates an exploitation cycle 1165 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:06.880 one way or another, especially massive corporate stuff. And that goes from all 1166 01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:12.239 the businesses you're talking about being touched by him to those that create chocolate. 1167 01:30:12.359 --> 01:30:15.920 For God's sake, nobody ever thinks of that though your hershey bars, you're 1168 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:18.800 Nestlee whatever, all that crap. Yeah, most of that stuff, whether 1169 01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:21.319 you know it or not, it's not just your iPhones that are made by 1170 01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:25.720 you know, child labor. And by the way, some kids are trafficked 1171 01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:28.920 for this purpose too, by the way, in order to have them go 1172 01:30:29.000 --> 01:30:34.000 there and work on these plantations and and harvest these beans from the trees. 1173 01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:40.920 Okay, pretty wild expos that Oliver did on it. I thought, again, 1174 01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:43.159 I know, he's a left wing freaking you know, he's part of 1175 01:30:43.239 --> 01:30:46.800 the HBO major corporate blah blah blah blah blah. But truth is truth. 1176 01:30:46.920 --> 01:30:51.239 Man. It's pretty bizarre. And even the companies that are you know, 1177 01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:57.479 doing their damnedest to not use the child labor, uh supposedly, it's like 1178 01:30:57.760 --> 01:31:00.600 they almost can't avoid it because it's just part of the system. So, 1179 01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:05.479 you know, I wonder what would happen there if you introduce HEMP into a 1180 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:11.680 whole lot more markets. Is that going to create another exploitation system where you 1181 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.840 know? So it's just one of those things I thought about while while you 1182 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.119 were discussing this, and somebody said, yeah, I can't bring that to 1183 01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:23.159 Africa because that would be crazy time. Plus the Chinese would immediately co opt 1184 01:31:23.199 --> 01:31:27.439 it because they have all those interesting inroads into all those African nations that they 1185 01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:31.520 did, you know, with their with their designs on production and stuff across 1186 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:36.600 the continent. Okay, so kind of a wonder the Chinese didn't create a 1187 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:42.199 whole hemp business and destabilize a whole bunch of our fiber businesses and things with 1188 01:31:42.319 --> 01:31:45.720 it. Weird that they didn't use that strategy. I don't know. Maybe 1189 01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:49.640 it's just me that's a busy group and off our DVDs. Well that too, 1190 01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:53.560 you got you got to get in on everything, right. You got 1191 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:55.840 to have a little piece of everything, is what I was taught as a 1192 01:31:55.920 --> 01:32:00.520 kid. Uh. That's the best business model, right Black. Anyway, 1193 01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:03.960 I think I'll go back around to Harlan and then get back around to Captain 1194 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.800 Trips and if anybody else wants to join us three one nine, five two 1195 01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:10.960 seven five zero one six. I did put vance on hold, but I'm 1196 01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:14.279 gonna try and get back around to everybody before we're done tonight. Uh. 1197 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:20.800 Anyway, Harlan, any thoughts on the ensuing conversation that's gone on here or 1198 01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:25.319 well, you know, I just wanted to add that, you know, 1199 01:32:25.520 --> 01:32:30.600 I'm I denounced file drug activity and commercial truck driving and all that in case 1200 01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.680 some amount like that's what's a body itself a bit chair trying to justify you 1201 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:38.920 know, I just wanted to use that after that. No, you wouldn't 1202 01:32:38.960 --> 01:32:43.159 endorse anybody drinking on the job. You wouldn't endorse people popping out. I 1203 01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:46.039 was just playing. You know, the they needs to be you know, 1204 01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:50.520 it's it's two thousand and you know, twenty three. They need to kind 1205 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:56.039 of modernize some of this stuff more, especially when there's as much of these 1206 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.640 things out here. Is what they are that you can you know, come 1207 01:32:59.720 --> 01:33:03.880 in contact with. It's just floating in there that can be laying on something. 1208 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:10.039 Hey, wait, wait a second, Carlan, I got I got 1209 01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.840 a specific question for you. One second, I got a specific question for 1210 01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:18.079 you because I was thinking about this and I know for decades there's been a 1211 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:25.960 whole little underground business, okay that has gone on feeding truck drivers all sorts 1212 01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:30.800 of legalized speed. Now, what do I mean by this is stuff that 1213 01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:35.039 they know they don't drug test for. Okay, but we'll definitely keep you 1214 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:40.840 awake. Now. I remember in the nineteen nineties, okay, uh, 1215 01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:45.279 we had the ephedrin and that was legal for a bit, and they put 1216 01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.479 that in dietary supplements and all this other stuff, and it was actually like 1217 01:33:47.520 --> 01:33:53.159 an asthma medicine or something at one point like something like that. But they 1218 01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.199 were able to distribute that for a little while. Then people started banning it 1219 01:33:56.319 --> 01:34:00.079 and different states outlawed it, et cetera, et cetera. Now maybe they 1220 01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.680 might drug test for it, I don't know, But every time I turned 1221 01:34:03.720 --> 01:34:08.439 around, there seemed to be a new product that was sort of under the 1222 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:13.199 counter, under the table that definitely truck drivers. You know, look, 1223 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:15.119 I don't blame them. They got to stay awake for long hauls and things. 1224 01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:18.760 But a lot of guys would get a hold of stuff that, Yeah, 1225 01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:23.600 you weren't gonna get popped on your drug test for it. But truthfully, 1226 01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:27.479 you know you're operating under stimulants. Not you specifically, I just mean 1227 01:34:27.560 --> 01:34:31.600 people in your business. And I know this for a fact because indeed I 1228 01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:34.800 used to sell them, and not just as a as a criminal when I 1229 01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:39.840 was a kid. I'm talking about as a regular, legal, legitimate business 1230 01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:44.279 adult. I ran gas stations in convenience stores. I mentioned this several times. 1231 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:47.640 Well, guess what ones that catered to truck drivers. We knew we 1232 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:50.800 had to have a good supply of a pedron and when they were going to 1233 01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.239 ban that stuff, we had to get in you know, get in our 1234 01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:57.439 orders ahead of time to make sure we had it. Because we were allowed 1235 01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:00.680 to sell off what we had left, and people came men had double and 1236 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:02.479 triple the price to buy them. A lot of truck drivers bought them on 1237 01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.600 their way through Jersey, tell you the truth. And then we had other 1238 01:35:06.720 --> 01:35:11.600 chemicals that came in that were under different names, different product names, temporarily 1239 01:35:12.199 --> 01:35:15.720 until somebody would catch up with that. Matter of fact, at one time, 1240 01:35:15.880 --> 01:35:21.560 there was something called a cocaine in a can, and we sold that 1241 01:35:21.920 --> 01:35:28.199 that was not cocaine, but that's what the product label said. And yeah, 1242 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:30.800 there was a bunch of different things that we sold two people that wanted 1243 01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:35.159 to stay awake right, all sorts of not just your caffeine pills in your 1244 01:35:35.239 --> 01:35:41.720 no dose, but various types of chemicals, different things that would temporarily be 1245 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:45.560 sort of in a loophole. And that's been like a regular occurrence, I 1246 01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:49.720 think in the truck driving industry now for decades. I think it still stands. 1247 01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:54.039 I know it did all the way through the early two thousands of the 1248 01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:57.720 nineteen nineties, nineteen eighties, because I had my hands in some of that 1249 01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:01.359 business. But you know, so I know that that goes on, and 1250 01:36:01.399 --> 01:36:06.279 I'm wondering if that's more dangerous than say, you know, wondering if somebody 1251 01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.760 is going to use a little bit of this or that or the third thing 1252 01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:13.079 that is an a listed substance. What are your thoughts on that or do 1253 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:19.479 you have any Yeah, I've got some. Exactly what got the federal took 1254 01:36:19.560 --> 01:36:23.560 out of those pills or EPI dream or whatever they want to call it. 1255 01:36:24.439 --> 01:36:30.600 There was a baseball player, was it spraying camp down in Florida, and 1256 01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:33.840 he, you know, took a lot of them and he had a heart 1257 01:36:33.880 --> 01:36:36.960 attack. I can't remember if he died or not, but that just opened 1258 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.079 the door to start banning all that. You know, they was a lot 1259 01:36:41.079 --> 01:36:43.560 of that stuff over the counter. I took it, you know, when 1260 01:36:43.600 --> 01:36:47.279 it was out. There was one brand that I took in the wintertime there 1261 01:36:47.399 --> 01:36:49.960 for a couple of years because if you did get a cold or something, 1262 01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:55.319 it would help you breathe. It was my experience from what I seen from 1263 01:36:55.399 --> 01:36:58.920 other guys, and you know, and the one time I took too many 1264 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.359 of them myself, not paying attention, you know, took one, you 1265 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:05.239 know, went down the road and took another, and when I got ready 1266 01:37:05.279 --> 01:37:08.720 to go to bed, hell, I couldn't go to bed, you know, 1267 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:14.600 couldn't go to sleep. And but there was people. I've seen people 1268 01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:19.319 with factories that that ate them by a handful right before I started driving. 1269 01:37:19.880 --> 01:37:24.079 And that's where you had all these guys at the furnature factories. And that's 1270 01:37:24.119 --> 01:37:26.960 that, and the other that was you know, they was working like dogs, 1271 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.319 and it seems like a lot of other people could keep up. It's 1272 01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:32.039 because they were staying peeled to the gills. Yeah, I mean, hits 1273 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:36.840 my opinion. What did I saw that? Yep? You sitting there taking 1274 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:41.159 half a bottle of them, Well you're going to be messed up just as 1275 01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:44.640 much as somebody that had well, you probably be messed up. Worksering somebody 1276 01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:48.319 that snorted the line of cocaine or you know the old school crank or whatever. 1277 01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:51.479 Well, yeah, you know that's been out there. I mean there's 1278 01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:56.279 still caffeine pills and weight loss pills. I mean, you know, sometimes 1279 01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:59.800 I take a few of them myself, you know, just to keep from 1280 01:38:00.000 --> 01:38:01.960 well enough like a bloon. But it ain't nothing like them there. You 1281 01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.319 know, you ain't sitting here, you know, you know, I mean 1282 01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:09.119 a lot of them. I mean, now they shit, I can take 1283 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:12.239 them, lay down and go to slate right, you know what I'm saying. 1284 01:38:12.399 --> 01:38:15.199 But then black that day, if you popped cup up mo hell, 1285 01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:17.279 you couldn't went the slate for nothing. I didn't like whether it make mate 1286 01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:20.560 fail or you know, anything like that. Oh yeah, But when they 1287 01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:24.840 first banned it and they told us that we could sell off our remaining supply, 1288 01:38:25.039 --> 01:38:28.720 all of a sudden our seven dollars bottle of stackers, which was a 1289 01:38:28.800 --> 01:38:32.800 dietary supplement that had fedrin in it too, All of a sudden we were 1290 01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:38.279 selling those for thirty bucks, and people were happy to get them because they 1291 01:38:38.319 --> 01:38:41.800 were no longer going to be manufactured. But what I'm saying is it was 1292 01:38:41.920 --> 01:38:46.039 weird because I would watch this stuff come and go, and to me, 1293 01:38:46.199 --> 01:38:48.640 it was just as messed up if these guys popped them up, if they 1294 01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:54.159 were starting to eat them by the handfuls. Eventually you'd have somebody snap or 1295 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:57.039 break, you know, one way or another. They'd either injure themselves, 1296 01:38:57.119 --> 01:39:00.000 finally crash, have a heart attack, something happened. And to me, 1297 01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:04.840 it was like that crap was actually more harmful than most of the street drugs, 1298 01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:09.479 at least with the street drugs you come in. Yeah, good, 1299 01:39:10.680 --> 01:39:14.279 would that a feder it. You know, I could see how somebody could 1300 01:39:14.319 --> 01:39:16.199 you know, like I said, I'd seen them, you know, the 1301 01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:20.119 white crosses and stuff like when I'd worked in factories, uh out there I 1302 01:39:20.159 --> 01:39:23.680 got out of high school. I don't take no shit like that at that 1303 01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:28.640 time. But you know, yeah, definitely. But you know back in 1304 01:39:28.760 --> 01:39:31.079 if you took too many of them, you could you know, you'd be 1305 01:39:31.279 --> 01:39:33.680 messed up. I mean, I could imagine, you know, if you 1306 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.399 took four or five, six, eight, you know, something like that. 1307 01:39:36.680 --> 01:39:44.479 But something else I want to add is you know that they've changed pretty 1308 01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:47.399 much except for the C B d O pretty much everything far as I know, 1309 01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:50.800 you can buy it will Martyr over the counter. You know it's legal 1310 01:39:50.840 --> 01:39:55.479 when you ain't gonna light up a drug tests because that they uh, you 1311 01:39:55.600 --> 01:39:59.920 know, put that they took that a federal out. But I always said 1312 01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:05.000 that, you know, right after that or about that time, that that's 1313 01:40:05.039 --> 01:40:10.680 where you started hearing all this shit about them cooking the fed er out of 1314 01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:14.159 cold pills and you know, stuff like that. And see there's EF and 1315 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:17.920 dream and something that starts with p C H whatever. See that that's in 1316 01:40:18.079 --> 01:40:23.319 cold pills. And I never did feel nothing from any of it. You 1317 01:40:23.439 --> 01:40:26.119 know, I took some of them the last couple of years there in all 1318 01:40:26.159 --> 01:40:30.720 this common shit. But yeah, if you had too much that stuff, 1319 01:40:30.800 --> 01:40:32.680 yeah he could mess you up, I can imagine. But I always kind 1320 01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:36.399 of had this little conspiracy, you know. I don't, you know, 1321 01:40:36.640 --> 01:40:42.079 preach conspiracy too much. But it was awful funny, you know, it 1322 01:40:42.199 --> 01:40:45.840 was an observation more than a conspiracy. When all that shit got out of 1323 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:51.159 the way, the next deal was is to go after the small town you 1324 01:40:51.279 --> 01:40:57.560 know, crackheads cooking their mess. And then that led into everything coming from 1325 01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:00.239 Mexico and you know, shit like that, see school crank. From what 1326 01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:04.039 I understand that there was plenty of it out here in about the first four 1327 01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:14.079 or five years that I drove from the what I gathered was like pharmaceutical grade 1328 01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:18.359 Ralph dowg Ephedra, figram, whatever you want, college and then they would 1329 01:41:18.399 --> 01:41:20.600 make sure they cut it down, you know, I mean, I reckon, 1330 01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:24.399 that's what you know when people hears crank, That's what it was. 1331 01:41:24.600 --> 01:41:28.079 But there was also something else I want to mention to night. You know, 1332 01:41:28.119 --> 01:41:30.600 if we had time, Yeah, well go ahead, if you like, 1333 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:34.239 I'll tell you this about what you're talking about, though, is there 1334 01:41:34.359 --> 01:41:40.279 was plenty over the counter stuff that I learned how to cook down. I'm 1335 01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:46.000 not gonna explain it on air here, but with a massive enough dose of 1336 01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:50.600 a lot of cold medicines, depending on if they contained certain chemicals, yeah, 1337 01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:55.960 you could take and purify that and make yourself some pretty interesting stuff. 1338 01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:01.720 Stuff that's elucigenic, stuff that's speed. Like. You can actually separate certain 1339 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:08.159 very common brands of things into both of those, if you like, I 1340 01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:11.600 get your speed, and I can get you a hallucinogen out of stuff that's 1341 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:18.439 common name brand products. Okay, Uh, there's a process to separate these 1342 01:42:18.520 --> 01:42:25.560 things and to add activators, let's say to them. I'm not again gonna 1343 01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:30.119 give anybody a formula here, but but there's ways of doing it, and 1344 01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:34.600 yeah, that can be done fairly easily. And if a blind, stupid 1345 01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:38.560 SOB like me can figure out how to do it with a high school diploma, 1346 01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:43.880 I'm certain there's plenty of urban chemists out there that also knew this for 1347 01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:45.840 a very long time. I mean, before we had what they call crystal 1348 01:42:45.960 --> 01:42:51.520 meth, there was probably a dozen things at your local drug store that I 1349 01:42:51.560 --> 01:42:57.560 could easily turn into something highly narcotic without a problem. It just was the 1350 01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.600 amount the quantity that that you can get your hands on for me, and 1351 01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:02.720 I could turn it into it for you. Little magic. You know, 1352 01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:08.319 give me a day and the right equipment and a couple of other component chemicals 1353 01:43:09.359 --> 01:43:14.640 and you got it, no problem. Okay. Uh So again, I'm 1354 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.359 not a genius, and other people showed me how to do this, but 1355 01:43:17.520 --> 01:43:20.960 believe me, there's plenty of urban chemistry that went on. And that's before 1356 01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:28.119 the ephedrin. Okay, that's before all that. Yeah, crank speed whatever 1357 01:43:28.199 --> 01:43:31.760 it was they called it. Yeah, there was plenty of that. Most 1358 01:43:31.800 --> 01:43:34.600 people would snort it too, because we could end up crystallizing it and turn 1359 01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:39.640 it back around into something you could chop up easy. And you know, 1360 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:43.079 if it was chunky and you did it wrong, it'd be a little little 1361 01:43:43.159 --> 01:43:46.199 rough and chunky, but it still worked. Uh. But if you properly 1362 01:43:46.319 --> 01:43:51.399 ground it and you created a you could create something that could literally aerosolize if 1363 01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:56.399 you if you did it right. Anyway, I'm not going to go into 1364 01:43:56.439 --> 01:44:01.720 descriptions again or give you directions, but stuff that's commonly available at your CBS, 1365 01:44:01.840 --> 01:44:05.119 believe me, can be turned into lucinogenic speed, all kinds of crap, 1366 01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:10.359 whatever you want. Notice how I keep repeating those two things because I 1367 01:44:10.439 --> 01:44:17.159 know exactly how that's done. And yeah, yeah, so wonder I'm not 1368 01:44:17.279 --> 01:44:21.399 surprised that they lock these things up behind boxes nowadays. They really should because 1369 01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:24.399 they're actually kind of dangerous. I mean, if you go and take a 1370 01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:26.520 cold pill, a couple of cold pills, you're not going to get the 1371 01:44:26.560 --> 01:44:30.720 result if you take massive, massive quantities, which I've seen people do too, 1372 01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:33.800 where they've gotten themselves sick trying to take massive quantities to accomplish the same 1373 01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:38.720 goal. I guess theoretically you could get there, but you're likely to get 1374 01:44:38.760 --> 01:44:43.239 sick from it before you get high. If you know how to work it 1375 01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:45.359 a little, step on it a little, you can get it done. 1376 01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:50.439 But you can't just you know. Anyway, I'm just gonna leave it at 1377 01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:53.920 that. And that stuff used to be even more potent, by the way, 1378 01:44:55.159 --> 01:44:57.800 but yeah, there's plenty of chemicals available for people to play with it. 1379 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:00.680 They know what they're doing. So as we can come down to what 1380 01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:04.840 might be the last I don't know, twenty five minutes here, we do 1381 01:45:05.039 --> 01:45:10.800 have another caller, so I'm gonna put Harlan on hold and get around to 1382 01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:14.680 that caller before we go back around to Captain Trips and Bepete and probably let 1383 01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:17.479 them close out the show. Hey man, how you doing tonight? You're 1384 01:45:17.560 --> 01:45:27.800 live. Hey everyone, Jimmy and James here kept the trips. You'll remember 1385 01:45:27.960 --> 01:45:34.520 during the Obama administration, the Food Drug Administration was trying hard to do what 1386 01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:43.920 kept trips. They're trying to get off vitamins and minerals and band so you 1387 01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:49.680 need prescriptions, and you could guarantee that if Knucklehead gets reelected, be one 1388 01:45:49.720 --> 01:45:55.199 of the first things he does. Do you think Biden's going to ban vitamin 1389 01:45:55.279 --> 01:46:02.279 supplements? I don't think it. I know it. Let me do it 1390 01:46:02.800 --> 01:46:10.600 in his fourth term. What they'll do is start regulating them, to start 1391 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:15.560 throwing a bunch of taxes and permitting that, yeah, of values. That's 1392 01:46:15.640 --> 01:46:21.239 what's the other way they'll go regulated. They want to their prescriptions. They 1393 01:46:21.279 --> 01:46:26.920 don't want you to be able to well, how far are we? You're 1394 01:46:27.000 --> 01:46:30.359 right, you're right, and just let me let me throw in one little 1395 01:46:30.399 --> 01:46:33.439 thing. If you guys remember back at the kind of the height of the 1396 01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:40.119 COVID hysteria, there is an amino acid called an a C and a system 1397 01:46:40.479 --> 01:46:45.680 that is very got a myriad of uses. Well, they found one of 1398 01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:48.319 the uses. They didn't broadcast it too well, but it did have some 1399 01:46:48.640 --> 01:46:53.760 It did have some positive effects on people with that were actually sick with the 1400 01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:57.760 virus. And it was it was a matter of it was a matter of 1401 01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:00.439 seconds. You couldn't buy it anywhere. Amazon got rid of it and you 1402 01:47:00.479 --> 01:47:04.800 couldn't buy it in your health food stores anymore, and then suddenly they put 1403 01:47:04.840 --> 01:47:10.720 it back on the market. So yeah, I think they want to and 1404 01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:14.520 I don't have any any any good empiric evidence to back up what I'm gonna 1405 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:15.560 say. I don't think they're going to get away with it, though. 1406 01:47:15.560 --> 01:47:18.279 I think they want to try, but I don't think they're going to do 1407 01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:24.439 it in the long run. I hope I'm wrong. Well, okay, 1408 01:47:24.479 --> 01:47:30.560 and one more question. Corey capped the trips. Sure got you ready? 1409 01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:34.880 Yeah, go ahead, Jim, I'm here, I'm ready. Earlier, 1410 01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:41.279 when I was a mute, I heard I heard Harlan say that the Jews 1411 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.920 hate the weather because it's the only thing they don't control. Do you think 1412 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:48.520 that's true. I didn't hear Harlan say that. Wait a minute, now, 1413 01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:53.119 I didn't hear that, did anybody else? Wait a minute, Jemmy, 1414 01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:56.600 are you sure you heard that? I did not hear that from Harlan. 1415 01:47:56.640 --> 01:48:00.399 I want to defend Harlan. Maybe I should bring Harlan on, bring 1416 01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:05.159 them in. Maybe I didn't hear him very, bring them in. Let's 1417 01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:10.319 be be you mind if I bring Harlan in to defend himself. No, 1418 01:48:10.600 --> 01:48:13.279 not at all, all right, because I think I think that's I think 1419 01:48:13.359 --> 01:48:15.760 that's absolutely wrong with Jimmy James just said. I did not hear Harlan say 1420 01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:20.600 anything of that sort. Harlan, that topic hasn't come up the whole time 1421 01:48:20.640 --> 01:48:24.640 I've been on the call. I don't remember Jews coming up during this conversation. 1422 01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:28.079 What happened there? Wait a minute, no, real, no, 1423 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:30.920 real current geopolitical events have come up. We've been talking about cannabis and and 1424 01:48:31.319 --> 01:48:36.239 cannabis, federal regulations, drugs regulation, federal regulations. I think that's pretty 1425 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:40.880 much it. We started out with kissing, the sound you heard outside your 1426 01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:43.800 house? That that too, that too, which is kind of related. 1427 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:49.640 But anyway, yeah, uhln sorry, Harlan, he's made a weird statement 1428 01:48:49.680 --> 01:48:51.920 there. I didn't hear any such thing come out of your mouth. Brother? 1429 01:48:53.039 --> 01:48:57.560 You there? Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm here. I'm just sitting 1430 01:48:57.560 --> 01:49:00.079 there wondering how you respond or something like that. You know, I don't 1431 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:04.680 know. I was. I was hoping you had an answer. You wrote 1432 01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:08.840 you won't took a spook or two off le met Jimmy, or I mean 1433 01:49:09.319 --> 01:49:15.640 you snort my cold bail or what's going on? I must be getting into 1434 01:49:15.680 --> 01:49:23.840 that crazy. Maybe maybe I should buy drugs from you because I didn't hear 1435 01:49:23.920 --> 01:49:28.279 that. I'm telling you, you know, Look, I'll teach you how 1436 01:49:28.319 --> 01:49:32.600 to make something me wrong. No, I'm kidding. But oh my god, 1437 01:49:33.520 --> 01:49:38.359 did you did you rat baby a letter like Glenn back then, you 1438 01:49:38.439 --> 01:49:42.239 know, begging for Israeli citizenship this week? Jimmy, Oh my god, 1439 01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:46.479 did Glenn back do that this week? Yeah? I've seen that, you 1440 01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:55.840 know, Wow, I heard something about that. Yeah, can you imagine 1441 01:49:55.880 --> 01:50:00.279 them except end up? Hey, I'll stand up for Israel, but don't 1442 01:50:00.359 --> 01:50:04.000 forget during that COVID crap, They've forced every one of their citizens to get 1443 01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:08.760 them shot, so I wouldn't ever be a citizen. Yeah. Well, 1444 01:50:09.199 --> 01:50:12.159 well, well, I would like to like to say something. You know 1445 01:50:12.399 --> 01:50:15.760 that that looks like that's what I you know, wouldn't said about bringing up 1446 01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:19.399 tonight. But you know, the way everything is looking right now, it 1447 01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:25.239 looks like there's more people that that's not wanting to get involved and wanting this 1448 01:50:25.359 --> 01:50:30.680 shit to be you know, settled. And you know, one aspect that 1449 01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:35.760 I'm not saying a lot of people really pointing that is, if this keeps 1450 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:42.840 rolling, keeps escalating, and you draw all the other countries in that's around 1451 01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:46.840 Israel, well then it's gonna be you know, Israeli citizens getting slaughtered, 1452 01:50:47.039 --> 01:50:50.199 just like you know the Palace inns, you know, the people that don't 1453 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:54.479 exist, that used to have a country named that room that never exists. 1454 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:58.920 But anyway, uh, they're gonna be getting slaughtered, and it's gonna be 1455 01:50:59.079 --> 01:51:02.319 just like I said, it's beginning all this here. You've got regular citizens 1456 01:51:02.600 --> 01:51:06.319 over there living, it's just trying to live. And you know, everybody 1457 01:51:06.399 --> 01:51:10.760 ain't in these big conspiracies. I know there's a lot of people out there 1458 01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:14.800 thanks because somebody's got a two inch nose that they're out to get them. 1459 01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:16.720 And you know they wake up to day, you know, trying to figure 1460 01:51:16.720 --> 01:51:21.079 out someone up, you know, grab some money out of them. But 1461 01:51:21.279 --> 01:51:26.279 you know, I just don't consider myself in that crowd. But it's a 1462 01:51:26.319 --> 01:51:30.439 little hard to ignore some of the ship that's went on. And even though 1463 01:51:30.600 --> 01:51:34.359 mainstream media and you know, some of these on the right, the alleged 1464 01:51:34.520 --> 01:51:40.079 rift, these conservative media outlets, they keep trying to push this war, 1465 01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:45.600 people see through it more and more. And that's what it was correct to 1466 01:51:45.720 --> 01:51:50.119 me. I'm sure that you guys have more what this stuff night. Go 1467 01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:54.560 ahead, Catherine, No, I'm hoping you're right. No, I agree, 1468 01:51:54.720 --> 01:51:58.479 and I'm gonna I'm I mean, I'm gonna just make one a couple 1469 01:51:58.560 --> 01:52:03.680 of comments. One, I personally think there is a big distinction between being 1470 01:52:04.920 --> 01:52:11.079 big distinction between being Jewish and being being a Zionist. So I don't buy 1471 01:52:11.159 --> 01:52:15.720 into the bullshit that you can't criticize the Israeli government and you're somehow anti Semitic. 1472 01:52:15.159 --> 01:52:17.800 Don't try it. I'm not even gonna go there. And second of 1473 01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.279 all, if you want to just look in the best interest, this is 1474 01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:25.960 not in the best interest of the State of Israel. This is clearly not 1475 01:52:26.079 --> 01:52:29.199 in their best interest. And you've got a lot of protesting coming out of 1476 01:52:29.720 --> 01:52:32.319 the State of Israel saying the same thing. I mean, let's let's be 1477 01:52:32.479 --> 01:52:38.479 honest. Slaughtering eight thousand people to get so many. You know, I'm 1478 01:52:38.520 --> 01:52:41.840 not defending what happened on the seventh of October, don't go there either, 1479 01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:47.680 but slaughtering eight thousand people, there's gonna be no blowback. Let's take let's 1480 01:52:47.720 --> 01:52:51.960 take the nine to eleven story I face value, and let's say that it 1481 01:52:53.079 --> 01:52:57.319 happened exactly the way we were presented. You don't think that the United States 1482 01:52:57.399 --> 01:53:00.880 response was responsible for even worse stuff coming. That's so, I mean, 1483 01:53:00.920 --> 01:53:05.119 I'm sorry. What they're doing right now is not in the interest of anybody, 1484 01:53:05.279 --> 01:53:09.439 the whole I mean, the whole fucking world, and we all are 1485 01:53:09.520 --> 01:53:12.640 going to get screwed by what the government of Israel is doing right now. 1486 01:53:13.279 --> 01:53:17.119 And that's just my position. I can't argue with you at all. Yeah, 1487 01:53:17.199 --> 01:53:20.680 well, there's no reason for it. I'm in Kansas right now. 1488 01:53:21.479 --> 01:53:27.920 There's no reason for this to keep escalating to the point to where there's people 1489 01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:32.600 here in Kansas, thousands of miles away have to deal with something because something's 1490 01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:39.039 been going on for eighty years and they can't get the politics worked out or 1491 01:53:39.199 --> 01:53:44.119 you let what's gone on longer than that, well, well far, I 1492 01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:48.680 mean, you know it's it's been officially you know, for around the eighty 1493 01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:54.199 and I know it goes back. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you 1494 01:53:54.279 --> 01:53:59.239 want to go back into this world. You can't apply what the Bible says. 1495 01:53:59.279 --> 01:54:02.800 How about what's the Bible says on things like staying with your own tribe, 1496 01:54:03.239 --> 01:54:08.159 praise the Lord? What's the fucking Bible say about my harm? And 1497 01:54:08.239 --> 01:54:12.199 the temple being your body? What's the Bible say about you know, this 1498 01:54:12.680 --> 01:54:16.920 abomination? That been abomination? But when it comes to this political gimmick of 1499 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.399 the last you know, one hundred years or so, oh his gospel, 1500 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:26.399 everybody's got to listen to it. You know, let's blow the fucking world 1501 01:54:26.520 --> 01:54:34.840 up. Let's send people over here that never saw Marln. I also support 1502 01:54:35.359 --> 01:54:41.000 the Ukraine. Does that have something to do with the Bible and blah blah 1503 01:54:41.039 --> 01:54:45.399 blah blah. I don't know. Well, I'll tell you what, Jimmy 1504 01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.520 to me, it's kind of the same. That's kind of ass backwards as 1505 01:54:48.680 --> 01:54:53.600 the gimmick in Israel. You've got to you know, from what I understand 1506 01:54:53.680 --> 01:54:58.319 from what I heard this, I all this shit got started in Ukraine because 1507 01:54:58.399 --> 01:55:01.279 there was a section down there they wanted to go back with the Russians, 1508 01:55:01.479 --> 01:55:06.439 and they voted to and Zelenski and everybody will here so i'll know. But 1509 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:12.880 see, you've got another bunch that's efstinately one way and was there for god 1510 01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.479 knows how many years before the other bunch showed back up in mass It's basically 1511 01:55:16.680 --> 01:55:21.680 the same gimmick flipped upside down, you know, and no bursay, you 1512 01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:27.439 goes and Russia goes. I'm not for sending one more fucking dollar over well, 1513 01:55:27.520 --> 01:55:33.000 let them work it out, let them be nuts. Hundreds of men 1514 01:55:34.239 --> 01:55:40.680 things. The people were ball in the nineteen thirties when Zitler didded pulling as 1515 01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:45.159 long a way. Okay, let me tell you about Hitler. You know, 1516 01:55:45.319 --> 01:55:49.600 Hitler was a freaking passion. What if he voted or fucking you didn't 1517 01:55:49.640 --> 01:55:55.039 have the motherfucker over here streaming at fucking bumpers and made it to where he 1518 01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:58.840 did it, if he didn't have hell as another gimmick too, and I 1519 01:55:58.960 --> 01:56:06.640 had how many people got Adolf Hitler was a gammick? Wait a minute, 1520 01:56:06.640 --> 01:56:11.920 can you just answer the question when he invaded Poland should we or should we 1521 01:56:12.039 --> 01:56:16.359 have not intercepted try to stop them. No, we shouldn't have. We 1522 01:56:16.439 --> 01:56:20.079 shouldn't have. I'm a pure isolationist when it comes to this, because let 1523 01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:23.880 me tell you something, no matter what side of this conflict you take, 1524 01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:27.680 whether you support Israel, you support what they're doing, you support the Palestinians, 1525 01:56:28.079 --> 01:56:33.079 we are fucking bankrupt. The country is bankrupt. We cannot support this 1526 01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:38.199 ship anymore. We're going to go into an economic collapse over this ship. 1527 01:56:40.039 --> 01:56:42.680 Why don't we go in our best ally in the world. Why don't we 1528 01:56:42.720 --> 01:56:45.199 talk about the USS Liberty. There are great allies. Come on, don't 1529 01:56:45.239 --> 01:56:50.760 give me that ship. I'm sorry, man, hold on, hold on, 1530 01:56:50.920 --> 01:56:56.600 everybody, calm down, because the Liberty, they are allies. When 1531 01:56:56.640 --> 01:57:01.840 the Liberty got hit, I just need that was they were not our allies 1532 01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:13.279 at all. Okay. I studied that crap in the Navy, and that 1533 01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:17.600 was they got it. They drifted into a war zone and a literal spy 1534 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:25.439 ship zero. They're lucky, they're lucky. Let any of them live. 1535 01:57:26.079 --> 01:57:30.520 Okay, that is honest. I mean it was. We kind of went 1536 01:57:30.560 --> 01:57:32.520 a little too far on that one, and the LBJ it blew up in 1537 01:57:32.600 --> 01:57:38.079 his face. Well, strafing lifeboats is still a war crime. But anyway, 1538 01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:45.960 I mean, I don't understand. I'm sorry, but I don't understand 1539 01:57:46.079 --> 01:57:51.840 this war crime thing. We always talk war crimes after they happen. We 1540 01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:57.800 always do something about war crimes. When we do do something about war crimes 1541 01:57:58.279 --> 01:58:04.039 after it happens, it war is war. Now. I'm not saying that 1542 01:58:04.319 --> 01:58:12.079 civilians are open game, but this rules of conflict kind of went out the 1543 01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:16.319 window way back when someone's young into a rock at somebody else's young, and 1544 01:58:16.680 --> 01:58:21.199 we've been fighting ever since. Rules of war do not make any sense in 1545 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:26.720 war. War is war. You either fight it to win it or you 1546 01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:31.359 fight it to propel the economic interests of your country to a point that nobody 1547 01:58:31.439 --> 01:58:35.880 can stand it anymore. That's what we've made war into well, everything from 1548 01:58:35.960 --> 01:58:41.479 the treatment of prisoners, Everything from the treatment of prisoners to the construction of 1549 01:58:41.560 --> 01:58:45.800 bullets, though has been agreed upon by the major nations the way I understand 1550 01:58:45.880 --> 01:58:49.520 it, And you know what, either you follow these things or you don't, 1551 01:58:49.920 --> 01:58:56.119 and if you don't, there are consequences. Okay, that's involved in 1552 01:58:56.319 --> 01:59:00.720 war has violated the rules of war. Of course, they have the Geneva 1553 01:59:00.800 --> 01:59:04.960 Convention when it came about was to try to punish certain people for certain things. 1554 01:59:05.359 --> 01:59:10.479 And since then it's off the table. How many times has China pulled 1555 01:59:10.479 --> 01:59:13.880 a dirty move on us in the past fifty years knocking our planes out of 1556 01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:21.800 the sky? Remember the old what lorial financial siasco that went on when Clinton 1557 01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:28.760 was in And suddenly our technology is in China's rockets? Gee, how to 1558 01:59:28.880 --> 01:59:31.279 get there? We sold it to them? Yeah, I mean, my 1559 01:59:31.399 --> 01:59:36.840 god. You know, every country violates wars, they scream about war crimes 1560 01:59:36.920 --> 01:59:41.319 on the other side. The last time we really did anything about it was 1561 01:59:41.399 --> 01:59:45.880 Nuremberg, and that was to punish the people. Because we won and we 1562 01:59:45.960 --> 01:59:48.159 could do it. We got away with it. We fire bombed how many 1563 01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:54.720 cities across Europe and you never saw one of our guys on the stand. 1564 01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:58.840 Is because we won. That's one of the things about real and when the 1565 01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:01.239 war you're right and you can punish people for the war. Well that's we 1566 02:00:01.319 --> 02:00:04.039 haven't won a war and so long it's pitiful. Well now we're on the 1567 02:00:04.079 --> 02:00:09.439 receiving end of it. War as hell, war as a racket. Yeah, 1568 02:00:09.479 --> 02:00:12.680 that's all you need to know, all true, But again, I 1569 02:00:12.800 --> 02:00:16.840 think there should be some some consequence for things and you know, I know 1570 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:21.000 it's perfectly acceptable to some people that refugee camps got bombed for three days straight 1571 02:00:21.119 --> 02:00:26.640 in recent week. But uh, you know it's okay depending on whose side 1572 02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:31.039 it's on. Uh. And that's that's what the point is where the terrist 1573 02:00:31.279 --> 02:00:36.439 found Yeah, supposedly there, supposedly okay, So let me hey, let's 1574 02:00:36.479 --> 02:00:40.119 let's let me let me. Let me put this examptly, let me put 1575 02:00:40.159 --> 02:00:44.439 this example, let me say something, well, let me say something. 1576 02:00:45.239 --> 02:00:48.399 Let me say something, let me say something. Let's let's take it. 1577 02:00:48.600 --> 02:00:53.960 Let's take this down to the Let's take this rationale down a few levels. 1578 02:00:54.479 --> 02:00:57.960 Let's say, for instance, we let's say we got a bank robbery, 1579 02:00:58.079 --> 02:01:00.399 right, you got someone goes into a bank, holds up a bank, 1580 02:01:00.479 --> 02:01:02.920 got an automatic weapon, keeps everybody hostage in there. Why don't we just 1581 02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:06.880 blow the fucking bank up there? Why don't we like fucking just demolish it, 1582 02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:11.680 burn it to the ground. Still everybody? All right? Oh you 1583 02:01:11.800 --> 02:01:15.640 agree what you want to do? Right there? This is a war. 1584 02:01:16.039 --> 02:01:23.640 Stop once again, we go, you know, alright, alright, alright, 1585 02:01:28.199 --> 02:01:30.640 if everybody's gonna yell over everybody, it's gonna be get nowhere, So 1586 02:01:30.720 --> 02:01:33.880 let's not do that. Okay, go ahead, be pa, come out 1587 02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:38.800 all right, so simple. You know, this is a good example. 1588 02:01:39.079 --> 02:01:43.079 Wait a minute, This gen and camp that got bombed is an excellent example 1589 02:01:43.600 --> 02:01:46.960 on war crimes. Was it a crime to bomb the camp? Yes? 1590 02:01:47.600 --> 02:01:53.600 If civilians were at risk, yes it was. It's a crime. Was 1591 02:01:53.640 --> 02:01:59.560 it a crime for the military aspect of Hamas to be in that camp, 1592 02:02:00.359 --> 02:02:03.960 Yes it was. Yes. They're using Jumans, They're using them as human 1593 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:09.079 shields. That's why their headquarters is under one of the biggest hospitals in Gaza, 1594 02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:13.079 because they know it's not going to be touched. So now you got 1595 02:02:13.199 --> 02:02:15.439 to split hairs. Well, which is worse. And this kind of goes 1596 02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:21.159 back to the debate we didn't have a few weeks ago about proportionality. So 1597 02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:27.279 we already have both sides violating these crimes of war. What are we going 1598 02:02:27.359 --> 02:02:35.439 to do about it each other? Civilians? They are not a legal they 1599 02:02:35.479 --> 02:02:41.399 are not legal combatants for God's sake? Is it? But of terrorists the 1600 02:02:41.920 --> 02:02:54.479 legal yes, already. The governors in the United States we always complained that 1601 02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:59.000 we've ever follow wars through to the end, So now why are we trying 1602 02:02:59.079 --> 02:03:02.880 to dictate the Israel how they carry out their own wars. Yeah, well, 1603 02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:06.520 because we're paying for it, Well for it, I'm paying for it. 1604 02:03:06.600 --> 02:03:10.119 You're paying for it out of your tax money. All right? Stop 1605 02:03:10.239 --> 02:03:12.920 what? All right? Stop trips, I got you. I understand what 1606 02:03:12.960 --> 02:03:15.600 you're saying. But I'm putting everybody on hold here per second, just to 1607 02:03:15.680 --> 02:03:19.359 clear up the back, the back and forth for a sec because we're basically 1608 02:03:19.399 --> 02:03:23.960 at the end of the show. And look, see, here's the thing 1609 02:03:24.039 --> 02:03:28.600 though, this is all just a horrific conflict. Where tell me what the 1610 02:03:28.720 --> 02:03:30.239 right answer is. You're gonna tell me the right answer is, Oh, 1611 02:03:30.319 --> 02:03:34.720 it's all right, fine, there's acceptable collateral damage among civilians, okay, 1612 02:03:34.800 --> 02:03:40.399 cool. So that means that if somebody takes issue with this country, even 1613 02:03:40.840 --> 02:03:44.079 the actions of this country. I guess if they feel like they need to 1614 02:03:44.119 --> 02:03:46.239 get after some of the people that are responsible for that, that they could 1615 02:03:46.359 --> 02:03:49.720 just totally bomb civilian neighborhoods. You'd be okay with that, everybody, I 1616 02:03:49.800 --> 02:03:54.199 guess, right, that's all cool. No, let's just say you live 1617 02:03:54.279 --> 02:03:57.520 in the DC area, somebody wants to get at the general No, No, 1618 02:03:57.680 --> 02:04:00.159 I'm serious, though, you know what this is, what kills me 1619 02:04:00.199 --> 02:04:03.039 about it, tell me that that's acceptable. That's all I want to know. 1620 02:04:03.319 --> 02:04:08.000 That's fine. That means that if you look, there are plenty of 1621 02:04:08.039 --> 02:04:11.159 people in Iraq. I bet you got beef with plenty of the things that 1622 02:04:11.319 --> 02:04:15.720 happened in their country that were done under false pretenses where we completely destroyed their 1623 02:04:15.760 --> 02:04:19.039 government. I don't care what you think of Saddam Hussein. We destroyed their 1624 02:04:19.079 --> 02:04:24.840 economy, their government, their local everything, okay, and then put a 1625 02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:28.119 puppet regime in there to try and run things for a while. We did 1626 02:04:28.199 --> 02:04:30.079 that to those people. Now, if those people decided they wanted to get 1627 02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:35.079 back at some of the people that were responsible and struck at us here and 1628 02:04:35.199 --> 02:04:39.119 maybe ended up taking out some civilians, I bet you a lot of people 1629 02:04:39.119 --> 02:04:44.760 would be pissed. But you know, because not everybody is involved here, 1630 02:04:44.960 --> 02:04:48.680 and Jumas is not a legal combatant, they're not a military and they're not 1631 02:04:48.760 --> 02:04:54.720 a nation state. Are they go ahead? Sorry, But nobody tonight has 1632 02:04:54.800 --> 02:05:00.359 taken the position that that's okay. Everybody has mentioned that it it's not right 1633 02:05:00.520 --> 02:05:04.399 in the way that it's being handled. I'm sorry, that's a matter of 1634 02:05:04.479 --> 02:05:09.800 how much, say so we have to tell Israel what to do, because 1635 02:05:09.800 --> 02:05:13.560 you can look at any entity. When is somebody gonna take us? Oh 1636 02:05:13.640 --> 02:05:15.920 no, we have no way to tell him. For Iraq and Iran or 1637 02:05:16.079 --> 02:05:20.439 Vietnam. We've got to know. Somebody gonna take the UN to court over 1638 02:05:20.560 --> 02:05:27.399 what they let happen between the Tutsi, the Tuccis and the Hutus fair enough 1639 02:05:28.119 --> 02:05:31.319 Africa, or what they allowed to go on in Bosnia. So we're going 1640 02:05:31.359 --> 02:05:38.239 to take the UN to court. Everybody's guilty, yeah, anybody that's here. 1641 02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:41.199 Yeah. Well, but here's the thing I want to I want to 1642 02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:43.800 bring Jimmy back on because it sounded to me like he said, no, 1643 02:05:43.920 --> 02:05:45.560 it is acceptable because they got to get it, the terrorists which happened to 1644 02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:49.039 be there to screw it. That's what happens. So that's what it sounded 1645 02:05:49.119 --> 02:05:51.319 like to me. Get that impression. But yeah, bring him back on. 1646 02:05:51.520 --> 02:05:54.720 I want to bring him back on and make sure that I undertoo him 1647 02:05:54.720 --> 02:05:57.239 because maybe I misunderstood him then, because that's what it sounds like to me, 1648 02:05:57.399 --> 02:06:00.640 is that no, this is perfectly acceptable because there were terrorists there, 1649 02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:03.159 so screw it. That's what happens. I don't know. Now, Look, 1650 02:06:03.239 --> 02:06:05.039 do we have a right to tell Israel what to do. Now, 1651 02:06:05.079 --> 02:06:08.119 we don't ever right to tell any nation what to do. But here's what 1652 02:06:08.199 --> 02:06:11.159 we do have a right to do. Also, not fund them if we 1653 02:06:11.199 --> 02:06:16.479 don't want to, right, And look, I'm all for still funding Ukraine, 1654 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:23.399 okay, because I see a smaller nation being picked on by a larger 1655 02:06:23.439 --> 02:06:27.039 one that has much greater resources, who was supposed to be our Ally, 1656 02:06:27.560 --> 02:06:30.479 I'm thinking we should back then. And I know that's a rough position nobody 1657 02:06:30.520 --> 02:06:34.560 wants to hear, but I'm against this idea of upping, which they just 1658 02:06:34.680 --> 02:06:36.880 did. By the way, no problem. They put through what it was 1659 02:06:36.920 --> 02:06:41.600 another fourteen and a half billion something like that this week? What was the 1660 02:06:41.680 --> 02:06:45.680 agreement? Do you remember, BPT the amount of money that resolution they passed. 1661 02:06:45.800 --> 02:06:47.680 Oh, it hasn't been decided. I don't think it's been decided upon 1662 02:06:47.800 --> 02:06:54.319 yet. Oh I thought I heard fourteen billion? That number? Does that 1663 02:06:54.479 --> 02:06:59.039 number strikest? But yeah, I don't think it wants Yeah, yeah, 1664 02:06:59.039 --> 02:07:00.760 I don't think it's going to the head eye approved yet. Okay, let 1665 02:07:00.760 --> 02:07:05.000 me let me check on that in the Senate. Okay, let me check 1666 02:07:05.039 --> 02:07:08.119 on that, because I think the House passed it. Let me let me 1667 02:07:08.159 --> 02:07:11.880 see Israel funding bill. I want to find out if maybe the House passed 1668 02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:15.359 it and they were waiting on the Senate. Let's see us House passes Well, 1669 02:07:15.359 --> 02:07:17.319 I thought you were talking about Ukraine. I'm sorry, Yes, they 1670 02:07:17.520 --> 02:07:21.680 passed a bill for Israel. Yeah, they have not put one up for 1671 02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:25.520 Ukraine yet, right, Okay, Okay, No, That's what I was 1672 02:07:25.560 --> 02:07:29.680 getting through is that they agreed to do that. Okay. So our government 1673 02:07:29.880 --> 02:07:32.720 is still in agreement with standing with Israel and actually upping the support that we 1674 02:07:32.760 --> 02:07:38.439 give them on a daily basis anyway, because they are constantly being given money 1675 02:07:39.640 --> 02:07:43.479 anyway already. Right, So that is the way it stands. And I 1676 02:07:43.520 --> 02:07:45.279 don't think we have a right to tell them stuff, but we do have 1677 02:07:45.319 --> 02:07:46.279 a right to tell them if we're going to back them or fund them. 1678 02:07:47.239 --> 02:07:50.640 So you know, I'm just saying there could be decisions made there. But 1679 02:07:50.720 --> 02:07:55.800 I thought Jimmy James was saying that it was totally acceptable that Israel does this 1680 02:07:56.039 --> 02:07:59.199 to the refugee camps, and I want to see if I was wrong about 1681 02:07:59.199 --> 02:08:03.640 that. So I'm gonna bring Jim back on specifically. So Jimmy, am 1682 02:08:03.680 --> 02:08:07.239 I right that this is completely acceptable what Israel did regarding the bombing of these 1683 02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:16.039 camps because there were terrast So back your original statements about the Iraqis. The 1684 02:08:16.199 --> 02:08:20.279 Iraqis didn't actually have problems with us. It turns out it was the Iranian 1685 02:08:20.479 --> 02:08:26.520 sending terrorists into Iraq and setting up IED's. I guess you didn't hear over 1686 02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:31.680 the last fourteen years, as far as Israel goes, not much you can 1687 02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:37.920 do if terrorists grabbed their own people and refuse to let them leave the camps. 1688 02:08:39.199 --> 02:08:41.640 I mean, right now, Israel's going through a mess in a ground 1689 02:08:41.760 --> 02:08:48.319 ward to get try to figure out who's in Hamas, who's a Hesba Lah, 1690 02:08:48.960 --> 02:08:52.680 who's in the Brotherhood. There's two million of these people and they're begging 1691 02:08:52.920 --> 02:08:58.520 Egypt to take them, and they refuse. Jordan is seventy three percent of 1692 02:08:58.640 --> 02:09:05.359 what you call Palestinians. Why won't they take a single person? Where's the 1693 02:09:05.520 --> 02:09:09.840 humanity there? Yeah, good questions, the good questions. Wait a minute, 1694 02:09:09.880 --> 02:09:13.760 I got that answered. They won't take a single Palestinian because the last 1695 02:09:13.840 --> 02:09:18.560 time they took Palestinians they tried to kill the king. Okay, fair enough 1696 02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:20.279 so, But but Jimmy, the question I have for you is, so 1697 02:09:20.840 --> 02:09:24.600 this is totally acceptable. What's going on here. This is acceptable what they're 1698 02:09:24.640 --> 02:09:31.159 doing, like right or wrong. Now, the terrorists are very unacceptable using 1699 02:09:31.279 --> 02:09:39.039 their human population of shields and keeping them from going south as Israel warned them 1700 02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:43.600 and warned them and begged them to all civilians to go south. And guess 1701 02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:48.680 what, they're being held in place by gunpoint right? Okay, So it's 1702 02:09:48.760 --> 02:09:54.079 acceptable the military action being taken by the IDF is what I get. I 1703 02:09:54.119 --> 02:09:58.359 guess I got to ask specifically in response to all of that. Whatever it 1704 02:09:58.439 --> 02:10:01.960 is you say, whether you're right or wrong, the response to the situation 1705 02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:13.920 is acceptable, yes or no, Jimmy, it's certainly acceptable militarily, And 1706 02:10:15.760 --> 02:10:20.319 yeah, there you go. That's where you got hold on, Chuck. 1707 02:10:20.640 --> 02:10:24.159 Yeah, I'm not giving an alternative explanation to the woman in front of him 1708 02:10:24.279 --> 02:10:28.039 and shooting at you. What would you do? Depends would you shoot back? 1709 02:10:28.199 --> 02:10:33.239 Depends on to kill you? Depends on the circumstance anyway, Yeah, 1710 02:10:33.279 --> 02:10:37.239 no, no, No, and your son are there and a man just 1711 02:10:37.359 --> 02:10:41.399 grabs a random woman as a human shield to start shooting at you. Do 1712 02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:43.680 you shoot back? Chuck? It depends on that. You got to fill 1713 02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:46.600 out a lot more circumstances there for me to give you an honest answer. 1714 02:10:48.119 --> 02:10:50.840 I'm just and I wasn't asking about my situation. I was just asking what 1715 02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:56.119 you were saying, and I wanted to get clarity on your situation. It's 1716 02:10:56.399 --> 02:11:01.720 what you could It's very complicated, is it sure is? I'm not saying 1717 02:11:01.760 --> 02:11:05.720 it is that, Jimmy. I I just wanted clarity on your position, 1718 02:11:05.920 --> 02:11:09.640 and I was correct in saying that you thought that this is acceptable action being 1719 02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:13.119 taken by the IDEA, Right, that's what you said. Or am I 1720 02:11:13.199 --> 02:11:20.640 wrong? You are correct at the IDEF that has done anything wrong and the 1721 02:11:20.479 --> 02:11:24.119 terrorists have so far they go. That's me asking a question, not even 1722 02:11:24.159 --> 02:11:28.520 offering my opinion. I just asked you the question about what your position was, 1723 02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:31.680 and I was correct. Okay, that's all I wanted to be sure 1724 02:11:31.720 --> 02:11:35.239 of that. See, That's what I was. And now I put Jimmy 1725 02:11:35.279 --> 02:11:37.439 back on hold. That's what I was saying, b Pete, is that 1726 02:11:37.800 --> 02:11:41.640 you see it's correct as far as he's concerned. He said it himself, 1727 02:11:41.760 --> 02:11:48.439 right, this is a correct response by the IDEA given the circumstances that he 1728 02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:52.479 lays out and descride you. I'm willing to defend his position. He did. 1729 02:11:52.239 --> 02:11:54.920 I'm not saying he didn't, and I'm not even given a position here. 1730 02:11:56.119 --> 02:12:00.159 I wanted his position clarified because I know that's what I heard, and 1731 02:12:00.279 --> 02:12:01.199 I know that I will hear it. You you want to look at it 1732 02:12:01.279 --> 02:12:05.840 strictly from if you want to look at it from strictly a war in defense 1733 02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:11.359 aspect, Yeah, they are justified in what they were doing. The military 1734 02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:13.600 was in that spot, the civilians were warned to get out. They went 1735 02:12:13.640 --> 02:12:18.439 in and took them out. That's war. Now, when you want to 1736 02:12:18.600 --> 02:12:22.479 argue the morality of it, you know, like I said, we can 1737 02:12:22.600 --> 02:12:28.880 have that debate on proportionality. What's proportional for fourteen hundred people burned, shot, 1738 02:12:30.439 --> 02:12:35.359 raped, beheaded? I mean, what is proportional to that? You 1739 02:12:35.479 --> 02:12:37.560 know, let me throw one thing in there. Let me just throw one 1740 02:12:37.600 --> 02:12:43.159 thing in that's taking the original story at faith value. There have been countless 1741 02:12:43.399 --> 02:12:48.600 Israelies that have come out that were involved in that initial attack that are saying 1742 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:52.920 a lot of that. A lot of these stories just aren't true. Hey, 1743 02:12:52.960 --> 02:12:56.600 look that you had multiple people that have come out and said it was 1744 02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:01.720 the IDF that was shooting at everything on the their first response, they got 1745 02:13:01.760 --> 02:13:07.439 the Hannibal doctrine. We know this. The Israeli Defense Force they don't take, 1746 02:13:07.520 --> 02:13:11.039 they don't rescue the hostage is half the time they kill everybody. And 1747 02:13:11.159 --> 02:13:13.399 that's that's I mean, that's been said by Israeli officials. That's I mean, 1748 02:13:13.479 --> 02:13:18.359 it's out there. So just accepting the mass media, you know, 1749 02:13:18.479 --> 02:13:22.960 face presentation of what happened on October seventh. Now that more information is coming 1750 02:13:24.000 --> 02:13:28.159 out, you know, you have you have lots of information come that the 1751 02:13:28.359 --> 02:13:31.800 United States warned Israel that this was gonna happen, and Egypt it warned Israel 1752 02:13:31.840 --> 02:13:33.520 that this was gonna happen, and no response. There was a person on 1753 02:13:33.600 --> 02:13:39.000 the ground that was involved in it said it was seven hours before any from 1754 02:13:39.079 --> 02:13:43.119 anyone from the IDF even showed up. Well, so that's just accepting the 1755 02:13:43.239 --> 02:13:46.960 original story of face value. Well fair, I don't accept And here's the 1756 02:13:46.039 --> 02:13:50.199 thing. The only reason why I wanted Jimmy to say that is because that's 1757 02:13:50.239 --> 02:13:54.760 exactly what Netanyaho's uh, one of who's closest advisors, is saying publicly on 1758 02:13:54.960 --> 02:13:58.239 our media now when they're interviewing them, is that, you know what all 1759 02:13:58.279 --> 02:14:03.199 this stuff you see regardless of what they're reporting about it, or the complaints 1760 02:14:03.239 --> 02:14:07.039 about our tactics or our use of tactics or whatever else. It's all justified, 1761 02:14:07.960 --> 02:14:09.640 basically, that's what he's saying. It's all justified. It all has 1762 02:14:09.680 --> 02:14:13.960 to be done. So I'm just telling you that that's the position being presented. 1763 02:14:15.199 --> 02:14:18.560 I'm not telling you that's my position, and I'm not telling you that 1764 02:14:18.600 --> 02:14:20.520 I even object to it. I mean, I object to things that I 1765 02:14:20.560 --> 02:14:24.479 think are criminally done to people and that chug. But that's good. But 1766 02:14:24.600 --> 02:14:28.199 that's the position that's being put out by the media. Yeah, on both 1767 02:14:28.279 --> 02:14:31.760 sides. Yeah, the media say in Israel justified. You have the other 1768 02:14:31.960 --> 02:14:39.119 media saying that the Palestinians were justified for the initial attack that started this part 1769 02:14:39.640 --> 02:14:43.760 of an over eighty five year old war. So and I don't agree with 1770 02:14:43.880 --> 02:14:48.399 that either. I don't agree that they were justified in the initial attack. 1771 02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:50.319 I think both sides are wrong, to be quite honestly, Well, the 1772 02:14:50.359 --> 02:14:54.520 overwhelming yes, I agree with you, I will agree. I am I'm 1773 02:14:54.600 --> 02:15:00.880 more inclined to agree to agree with Captain than me too. Jimmy, me 1774 02:15:01.000 --> 02:15:03.520 too. I'm just saying me too. I am on the side of all 1775 02:15:03.680 --> 02:15:09.680 of this is wrong on both sides. Okay, However, one of them 1776 02:15:09.800 --> 02:15:13.279 is arm better, one of them is a much more efficient killer, one 1777 02:15:13.319 --> 02:15:16.399 of them is a lot more powerful, and one of them is backed by 1778 02:15:16.399 --> 02:15:22.800 the United States. Okay, so that's all I'm saying. Iran one of 1779 02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:26.640 the biggest in perpetrators of the sponsors of terrorism in the world. Two of 1780 02:15:26.760 --> 02:15:31.840 fact true. So you know, and you've also got the Muslim Brotherhood, 1781 02:15:33.239 --> 02:15:37.279 You've got what was going to be the Arab League, and all of these 1782 02:15:37.359 --> 02:15:41.640 countries around. Even though Jordan has a peace treaty with Israel, and even 1783 02:15:41.640 --> 02:15:46.880 though Egypt has a peace treaty with is Israel, don't forget for a second 1784 02:15:46.920 --> 02:15:52.239 there's elements within those countries that are helping hazbalan Hamas pull off what they're pulling 1785 02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:56.039 off, of course, and you got the money of Iran feeding into the 1786 02:15:56.119 --> 02:15:58.439 system through Syria, you know, I mean, it's open game. Yeah, 1787 02:15:58.520 --> 02:16:03.520 quickly at six seven countries right now, what Yemen announced that they were 1788 02:16:03.560 --> 02:16:05.800 getting into it. Fair enough, another one hundred and thirty thousand troops. 1789 02:16:05.920 --> 02:16:09.600 But the more this spreads, the bigger problem it's going to become. And 1790 02:16:09.720 --> 02:16:11.479 it's not going to just be a problem for the Palestinians. It's going to 1791 02:16:11.520 --> 02:16:16.439 be a problem for everybody in that region. I believe that wholeheartedly. And 1792 02:16:16.520 --> 02:16:18.800 I'll tell you something else, just real fast, odd thought, and then 1793 02:16:18.800 --> 02:16:22.600 I want to like let everybody in to have their final say here, because 1794 02:16:22.760 --> 02:16:26.399 look, here's a strange thought I had, is that you know, Egypt 1795 02:16:26.840 --> 02:16:31.120 has the solution as far as closing their damn border, don't they. So 1796 02:16:31.639 --> 02:16:37.760 however, that's done through Egypt and making sure that nobody can escape Palestine into 1797 02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:41.399 Egypt. Okay, or nobody can escape Gaza. Let me be accurate, 1798 02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:48.399 nobody can escape Gaza into Egypt. Yeah, it's interesting as somebody ought to 1799 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:52.159 go over there and take lessons about closing a border. I think, just 1800 02:16:52.280 --> 02:16:56.680 saying, just saying anyways, I'll leave it at that, and uh again, 1801 02:16:56.760 --> 02:17:01.280 I tried my best not to present my opinion. I wanted to get 1802 02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:05.559 everybody else's pulse on this and interesting, I wanted to avoid this and talk 1803 02:17:05.600 --> 02:17:09.280 about other stuff, and him came up first. But you know, hey, 1804 02:17:09.479 --> 02:17:13.159 it keeps happening. We keep having to go back to it because guess 1805 02:17:13.200 --> 02:17:16.639 what, You're not going to escape it anywhere you go. So there you 1806 02:17:16.719 --> 02:17:18.000 go. And by the way, the guy was criticizing the hell out of 1807 02:17:18.040 --> 02:17:22.760 me about Ukraine and this and that, and then finally, I think I 1808 02:17:22.879 --> 02:17:26.280 know who that might be, who is on a speaker doing that. You 1809 02:17:26.360 --> 02:17:30.520 know what, Sorry dude again, but I'm tired of being penalized. From 1810 02:17:30.559 --> 02:17:33.680 my view, I think Ukrainians have a right to exist and to live. 1811 02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:37.520 And I say that and I lose money, i lose supporters, and that's 1812 02:17:37.600 --> 02:17:43.000 that because I'm supporting Nazis apparently, and I'm against Mother Russia, who is 1813 02:17:43.079 --> 02:17:46.399 supposed to be supported by alternative media people like myself. So I'm an a 1814 02:17:46.559 --> 02:17:50.639 hole. That's what the answer to that question is. And I'm not engaging 1815 02:17:50.680 --> 02:17:54.760 in it as much as I can avoid it. I got other things to 1816 02:17:54.920 --> 02:17:58.719 do at this point because I get penalized per saying that people have a right 1817 02:17:58.760 --> 02:18:03.760 to live. And don't even get me started on my actual viewpoint regarding Israel, 1818 02:18:05.239 --> 02:18:07.319 because you know what, cold strategy Again, I tried to even present 1819 02:18:07.399 --> 02:18:13.760 the idea, well, what if we decided to switch alliances even and strategically 1820 02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:16.399 adopt the idea of you know what, let's side with the rest of the 1821 02:18:16.479 --> 02:18:20.120 Arab world that seems to be against the existence of Israel. How about that 1822 02:18:20.280 --> 02:18:24.319 from a strategic standpoint? How would that work out for us? Nobody even 1823 02:18:24.360 --> 02:18:28.159 wants to talk about that because that's craziness and I'm just asking to talk about 1824 02:18:28.159 --> 02:18:30.719 it hypothetically. But here I go, I'm gonna get myself in trouble again, 1825 02:18:30.760 --> 02:18:35.520 aren't I. It's true it No, I don't want to talk about 1826 02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:37.840 the hypotheticals, and I want to talk about my viewpoint because you know what, 1827 02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:41.920 at the end of the day, I'm not in power. We're supposed 1828 02:18:41.959 --> 02:18:45.360 to be. Well, you know, we're definitely funneling money over that way, 1829 02:18:45.399 --> 02:18:48.000 and it's perfectly acceptable to funnel money there. I love how people are 1830 02:18:48.040 --> 02:18:52.959 all for peace when it comes to not funneling money to Ukraine, but they, 1831 02:18:54.040 --> 02:18:56.719 you know, want to make sure they funnel more money to Israel. 1832 02:18:58.440 --> 02:19:01.040 I find Jimmy James position, even though I don't stand exactly with them, 1833 02:19:01.120 --> 02:19:05.959 a lot more consistent and rational than the people who go in that direction, 1834 02:19:05.040 --> 02:19:09.280 who are like, for peace sake, don't send money to Ukraine, but 1835 02:19:09.360 --> 02:19:13.680 also for peace sake, send money to Israel. His position is consistent. 1836 02:19:15.040 --> 02:19:20.399 His position's consistent exactly, it's consistent. I mean, I'm not and I 1837 02:19:20.559 --> 02:19:24.559 have not been in favor of funding either of these things as far as I'm 1838 02:19:24.559 --> 02:19:28.360 concerned. Yeah, I mean, that's been my position the whole, the 1839 02:19:28.440 --> 02:19:31.440 whole, from start to finish. And if you are somebody who thinks that 1840 02:19:31.479 --> 02:19:33.760 we should mind our own damn business and stop getting involved in so many foreign 1841 02:19:33.879 --> 02:19:37.040 entanglements, and that's the way you think on both of these fronts, you 1842 02:19:37.120 --> 02:19:41.319 know what, I say that you are a consistent thinker. But I'm watching 1843 02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:46.239 schizophrenia occur throughout the rest of the media and throughout the whole people that are 1844 02:19:46.239 --> 02:19:50.600 speaking about this, and it's driving me nuts. I'm just saying, Look, 1845 02:19:50.879 --> 02:19:54.879 and again I still have not fully identified my own particular viewpoint on this. 1846 02:19:56.239 --> 02:19:56.959 I do have one, but you and I are going to have to 1847 02:19:58.040 --> 02:20:01.399 talk about You and I can talk about this privately because I am curious, 1848 02:20:01.840 --> 02:20:03.040 so we can do that at a later date. Well, eventually, I'll 1849 02:20:03.079 --> 02:20:05.799 lay it out, but I'm much more concerned with doing the JFK thing, 1850 02:20:05.840 --> 02:20:09.719 which I'm going to do in about ten days or so, and I want 1851 02:20:09.760 --> 02:20:13.559 to get through that, and you know, take a little time to enjoy 1852 02:20:13.639 --> 02:20:18.479 a singular murder case instead of you know, calamities that are going to kill 1853 02:20:18.639 --> 02:20:24.120 hundreds and thousands and tens of thousands and whatever. I'll deal with the singular 1854 02:20:24.200 --> 02:20:28.079 murder case for the next couple of weeks, and then I'll come back and 1855 02:20:28.680 --> 02:20:31.840 you know, and I don't know, gut myself in front of all of 1856 02:20:31.920 --> 02:20:33.959 you again, you know, one more time giving an opinion that's going to 1857 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:39.319 get me screwed over and banned and kicked off of things and disregarded and thrown 1858 02:20:39.360 --> 02:20:43.239 out of equations financially and everything else. I'll do that in a couple of 1859 02:20:43.280 --> 02:20:46.799 weeks. Maybe I'll start doing that at the end of the year as a 1860 02:20:46.879 --> 02:20:50.520 Christmas present to people who hate my fricking guts, because I'll do that again. 1861 02:20:50.600 --> 02:20:52.959 Why not, I'll go back to giving my opinion, but on this 1862 02:20:52.040 --> 02:20:56.760 Friday night show, it's not about my opinion. See, I'd rather get 1863 02:20:56.840 --> 02:21:01.600 to everybody else's, So with that in mind, Sorry, I ended up 1864 02:21:01.680 --> 02:21:05.559 yelling and taking up extra time here and didn't mean to. But then again, 1865 02:21:05.760 --> 02:21:07.319 I don't know, it seems to keep happening. I want to go 1866 02:21:07.360 --> 02:21:11.639 around to everybody and let him get a minute or two maybe to themselves, 1867 02:21:11.120 --> 02:21:15.079 say whatever the hell they want, and then finish this. What do you 1868 02:21:15.159 --> 02:21:20.559 think that sounds like a plan. Cool, tell me the order we go 1869 02:21:20.719 --> 02:21:24.360 in and that's where we'll go. Well, I don't know. Well, 1870 02:21:24.399 --> 02:21:26.079 i'll tell you what. Let's go in reverse order of the way everybody came 1871 02:21:26.120 --> 02:21:30.399 in the last one was what Jimmy. Jimmy was definitely the last one. 1872 02:21:30.479 --> 02:21:35.040 So we'll go to Jimmy first. Cool. Sounds good, excellent, So 1873 02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:39.360 Jimmy, open Field, say what you want. I don't want anybody to 1874 02:21:39.440 --> 02:21:43.799 interrupt Jimmy. Who can don't interrupt Jimmy. Let him speak please? Good? 1875 02:21:46.840 --> 02:21:52.200 Oh, who'd have thought the movies could be controversial? Good? Point? 1876 02:21:54.319 --> 02:22:03.879 Good? Everyone goes to the Nanda hid. Well, the season of 1877 02:22:03.040 --> 02:22:13.440 JFKM Tuesdays is coming upon? Is trump true? True? It's like Christmas? 1878 02:22:13.719 --> 02:22:16.040 Is that going to be the total of your comment? Because I want 1879 02:22:16.040 --> 02:22:20.719 to get props to you one more time for being consistent about your position, 1880 02:22:22.760 --> 02:22:26.440 for being reliable as far as backing up what the hell you say? I 1881 02:22:26.600 --> 02:22:31.200 appreciate all that, and I really do hope that you can somehow make it 1882 02:22:31.280 --> 02:22:35.520 to Dallas, because that's going to be interesting and that's going to be fun. 1883 02:22:35.159 --> 02:22:39.040 Plus quick announcement, I forgot I'm going to be the featured guest on 1884 02:22:39.159 --> 02:22:46.079 Coast to Coast AM on November eighteenth as the JFK Guy from ten pm to 1885 02:22:46.280 --> 02:22:52.360 twelve midnight Pacific time. Just so you guys know, Richard Sarah will be 1886 02:22:52.399 --> 02:22:54.360 interviewing me. So I wanted to let you guys know that in case you 1887 02:22:54.399 --> 02:22:58.200 didn't catch that news, because I did end up having to blurt it out 1888 02:22:58.239 --> 02:23:01.440 on with a video I did with the like a Dank earlier this week, 1889 02:23:01.120 --> 02:23:05.120 but officially, yeah, I wanted to let you guys know I'm booked for 1890 02:23:05.159 --> 02:23:07.760 that. So that's Saturday night when we're at the conference. I'm going to 1891 02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:13.239 uh be the Coast to Coast AM guests, So potentially that should be the 1892 02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:16.799 largest radio audience I've ever spoken in front of, and uh hopefully that goes 1893 02:23:16.879 --> 02:23:18.840 well. I don't know what the callers are going to do to me on 1894 02:23:18.920 --> 02:23:28.120 there ought to be fun. You might want to listen to be amazing to 1895 02:23:28.200 --> 02:23:33.040 hear you on this show. Thank you. I hope you're listening. I 1896 02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:35.719 hope you're listening. And Jimmy, I would love it if you were able 1897 02:23:35.760 --> 02:23:39.360 to call in and get through, because man, that would be just perfect. 1898 02:23:39.360 --> 02:23:45.840 I'd be like Jimmy James say hello to two weeks. I'm so scared. 1899 02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:50.479 I'm so scared of spewing everyone's beans because I don't know what everyone's beans 1900 02:23:50.559 --> 02:23:56.799 are. Like, I didn't know you that one day you're saying I'm looking 1901 02:23:56.920 --> 02:24:01.280 into that. I'm sorry. I didn't didn't to spill the beans. You 1902 02:24:01.360 --> 02:24:05.479 didn't tell me the beans. I'm sorry, dude, I am bad at 1903 02:24:05.559 --> 02:24:09.559 keeping people informed that way. My apologies. So anyway, Christmas the JFK. 1904 02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:18.079 Yeah, and I was just gonna look again, I don't want to 1905 02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:26.159 Well, you can't really, I just can't believe is the mainstream media and 1906 02:24:26.280 --> 02:24:35.360 not everyone. I'se realize how big this information that doctor Newman has come up 1907 02:24:35.440 --> 02:24:48.520 with, especially the James Macord was a Soviet agent hell now as Day News. 1908 02:24:48.719 --> 02:24:50.639 Yeah. As to whether he was a knowing agent or not, I 1909 02:24:50.719 --> 02:24:56.200 think is still disputable. I'm still working on that. But wait, doctor 1910 02:24:56.280 --> 02:25:03.120 Newman said that he did something that made it absolutely positive that he had. 1911 02:25:05.559 --> 02:25:09.959 Well see, but I know that's what he said, but I'm one of 1912 02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:13.479 these jerky people that has to go and see it for myself. So I'm 1913 02:25:13.600 --> 02:25:16.399 in the process of going through some things, which is not an easy task 1914 02:25:18.840 --> 02:25:20.840 to dig through some of the stuff that he is pointing me to, by 1915 02:25:20.879 --> 02:25:26.040 the way, to get a handle on that. There's some wild information there 1916 02:25:26.120 --> 02:25:30.840 though that McCord. And I've always said this about McCord, he is the 1917 02:25:30.879 --> 02:25:35.799 most suspect character in the Watergate break in because this is a guy who blew 1918 02:25:35.879 --> 02:25:39.639 a black bag job, who instructed the CIA people on black bag jobs. 1919 02:25:39.719 --> 02:25:46.920 What in the hell is going on here? You know? Right? He 1920 02:25:46.120 --> 02:25:52.440 booked it. Well. Lyddy was amazing security guard in a hotel. Stop 1921 02:25:52.680 --> 02:25:54.680 him here? Are you kidding me? No, Lyddy was amazing. Listen. 1922 02:25:54.799 --> 02:25:58.600 Lyddy was a maniac. I met that guy, and I'm telling you 1923 02:25:58.760 --> 02:26:03.840 now, he he was nuts. So I believe he might have been capable 1924 02:26:03.879 --> 02:26:09.399 of nearly anything except betraying the United States. That's one of those things that 1925 02:26:09.479 --> 02:26:15.040 he wouldn't have done. He was a true believer in uh. He felt 1926 02:26:15.040 --> 02:26:20.840 as though anything he was doing was justified to defend the United States. Even 1927 02:26:20.920 --> 02:26:24.760 his time in prison he felt was an acceptable sacrifice. All that stuff. 1928 02:26:26.959 --> 02:26:31.040 So and he gives it to him, Chuck, that he wouldn't give them 1929 02:26:31.079 --> 02:26:35.680 an inch. That's why he got the full prison term. That's correct. 1930 02:26:35.799 --> 02:26:39.040 Look at James McCord, who did what two months? Yeah, well, 1931 02:26:39.079 --> 02:26:45.319 after he made some interesting statements like odo mess with me, I got a 1932 02:26:45.440 --> 02:26:48.440 match for every tree in the forest. That guess we know who he was 1933 02:26:48.600 --> 02:26:52.680 talking to. Now they go. And that's the thing about McCord. McCord 1934 02:26:52.840 --> 02:26:56.440 is a way more interesting character. And I've always said it, but nobody 1935 02:26:56.479 --> 02:27:01.280 ever listens to me because I'm a conspiracy theorist. But I'm in the midst 1936 02:27:01.319 --> 02:27:03.079 of checking that out. I'm not one hundred percent on Newman. I don't 1937 02:27:03.079 --> 02:27:07.520 defer to anybody on this stuff. I'd rather see it for myself. Uh 1938 02:27:07.760 --> 02:27:11.280 but he does present some interesting information. I'm in the process of getting a 1939 02:27:11.360 --> 02:27:13.159 hold of some documents. I've actually had to order some stuff because it's not 1940 02:27:13.319 --> 02:27:20.399 online by the way. Uh So, you know, yeah, this is 1941 02:27:20.440 --> 02:27:24.680 going to be an interesting dig. And I'm wondering if he's going to present 1942 02:27:24.799 --> 02:27:28.479 some of the documents that that I'm waiting to get, you know, delivered 1943 02:27:28.520 --> 02:27:31.200 to me. I wonder if he's going to present him at Lancer actually virtually, 1944 02:27:31.639 --> 02:27:35.319 because he's presenting at Lancer virtually and he's going to be in person at 1945 02:27:35.360 --> 02:27:39.959 the WET conference in Pittsburgh. Uh So I'm wondering maybe he'll present maybe he'll 1946 02:27:39.000 --> 02:27:43.600 present documents there, or because John's usually good for that, showing documents on 1947 02:27:43.680 --> 02:27:50.399 the big screen. So that is an interesting thing. Yeah, but here's 1948 02:27:50.479 --> 02:27:58.120 another crazy thought. This guy is uncovered to Soviet molds that Engleton never could. 1949 02:27:58.399 --> 02:28:01.520 Is it just me or should this? I'd be the next DCI. 1950 02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:05.959 Yeah, well if he hadn't been released from those duties. To the best 1951 02:28:07.000 --> 02:28:11.879 of my knowledge, who knows where he might be now? Anyway, Newman 1952 02:28:13.000 --> 02:28:15.479 is an interesting character in and of himself. By the way, you ought 1953 02:28:15.479 --> 02:28:20.600 to look at his background a bit for yourself as well. Well, yeah, 1954 02:28:20.639 --> 02:28:24.079 I know he's a major and all that. I just say that Newman 1955 02:28:24.799 --> 02:28:31.760 should be. Oh, he's an awful good spy on her and it's just 1956 02:28:31.920 --> 02:28:37.639 his part time hobby, right, But don't forget he had a military job 1957 02:28:37.959 --> 02:28:43.280 and another job with the NSA, so you know, and I'm not going 1958 02:28:43.319 --> 02:28:46.879 to claim to know the full breadth of his entire job with the NSA. 1959 02:28:48.000 --> 02:28:54.079 I know what his military record supposedly says. But anyway, who knows what 1960 02:28:54.200 --> 02:29:00.639 his skill level really is? Honestly, all right, had a fair enough 1961 02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:07.399 drop on that, Jimmy, Yeah, who knows? But it is fair 1962 02:29:07.440 --> 02:29:13.440 little to shut up for fifty It's been over twenty since I've been out. 1963 02:29:13.600 --> 02:29:18.399 I'll tell you anyone know Chucky sounds good. We'll get there, all right, 1964 02:29:18.520 --> 02:29:22.159 everyone, have a good weekend. Got bust. Absolutely. So there's 1965 02:29:22.239 --> 02:29:26.000 Jimmy James. I'm putting him back on hold, but go ahead, be 1966 02:29:26.040 --> 02:29:30.600 Pete. Who do we take next? Oh, let's see who was on 1967 02:29:30.760 --> 02:29:33.799 it? Was it Harlan? I think it was Harlan joined us next right 1968 02:29:33.959 --> 02:29:39.520 in reverse order, So let's get Harlan back. Is man Archie still with 1969 02:29:39.680 --> 02:29:43.239 us, Let's see. I'm not sure. Yeah he is. He's still 1970 02:29:43.280 --> 02:29:50.760 there too, But I got Harlan on the open line. Now Lance has 1971 02:29:50.799 --> 02:29:52.920 got sick. He'll be hanging out. I mean he can hang out longer 1972 02:29:52.959 --> 02:29:56.120 than if he can. Yeah, he has in the past. But go 1973 02:29:56.159 --> 02:30:01.360 ahead, Harlan, go ahead and speak your piece. Yeah. I was 1974 02:30:01.440 --> 02:30:05.920 wanting to hit that Hitler Gimmickalick or too, and everything exploded. I wouldn't 1975 02:30:07.000 --> 02:30:11.079 done responding to Jimmy. You know, it looks like to made the stuff 1976 02:30:11.120 --> 02:30:13.920 that I've seen and heard over the years that I kind of come to the 1977 02:30:15.000 --> 02:30:18.959 conclusion that, you know, to some aspect, it's you know, it's 1978 02:30:20.040 --> 02:30:24.680 kind of not conspiracy to see that he was funded by people over here, 1979 02:30:26.280 --> 02:30:31.559 Henry Ford being one of them. George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, 1980 02:30:31.360 --> 02:30:35.360 was handling money through his bank, and his bank got shut down, 1981 02:30:35.719 --> 02:30:39.920 you know, during World War Two for you know, having relationships with the 1982 02:30:39.040 --> 02:30:41.239 Nazis. I just want to, you know, throw that in there. 1983 02:30:41.360 --> 02:30:46.079 But you know, kind of the further on Jimmy's question about Hitler in nineteen 1984 02:30:46.159 --> 02:30:52.319 thirty eight, Well, I didn't think we was living in Nazi Germany in 1985 02:30:52.440 --> 02:30:56.399 nineteen thirty eight. I'm kind of like Captain Trips. You know, enough 1986 02:30:56.600 --> 02:31:01.280 is enough sending this money over here. This is two thou twenty four almost. 1987 02:31:01.079 --> 02:31:03.680 You know, they need to get this shit handled. We don't need 1988 02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:07.079 to get involved with people on the ground, and we sure don't need to 1989 02:31:07.159 --> 02:31:11.639 keep gouging this too. Shit starts happening over here, you know, this 1990 02:31:13.280 --> 02:31:16.559 the whole conglomerate of all those states. And then when you get Russia pulled 1991 02:31:16.639 --> 02:31:20.399 into it, then it's a different story. You know, do you want 1992 02:31:20.440 --> 02:31:24.559 to be sitting here tuessing about this shit, you know, on Friday night, 1993 02:31:24.680 --> 02:31:26.360 or do you want to go for hiding under a rock somewhere or another 1994 02:31:26.920 --> 02:31:31.000 waiting to see when a groan comes over and drops a bomb. I mean, 1995 02:31:31.079 --> 02:31:35.479 I don't think that's completely out of reality. Same way with China and 1996 02:31:35.600 --> 02:31:39.959 Taiwan. You know, do you want vehicles to be held up six months 1997 02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:43.200 over you know chips again if you get involved in all that, you know, 1998 02:31:43.479 --> 02:31:46.440 I'm just kind of you know, saying, you know, shit on 1999 02:31:46.559 --> 02:31:50.239 some of it, but don't work work with it. Let's try that for 2000 02:31:50.319 --> 02:31:54.040 a change, because it looks like us just continuing to cram money into this 2001 02:31:54.319 --> 02:31:58.559 is not really getting us anywhere. How many you know, being as Ukraine 2002 02:31:58.600 --> 02:32:03.719 got it this form right, and that's that's one thing I wanted to mate. 2003 02:32:03.719 --> 02:32:05.319 And good luck on your coast to coast appearances. Yeah, I'll go 2004 02:32:05.440 --> 02:32:11.959 talking about crazy theories, you know, tell them the uh. The latest 2005 02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:16.239 one you've heard was my theory about you know, a silencer being used that 2006 02:32:16.399 --> 02:32:20.639 nobody else has ever really talked about. Oh no, we talked about silencers 2007 02:32:20.719 --> 02:32:31.200 and suppressors and misdirection tools via the work of which Rich Rebel there verbal Rebel, 2008 02:32:31.319 --> 02:32:35.239 however you say his name, you know, Mitch Rebel having done a 2009 02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:37.760 whole bunch of work with that kind of stuff. We talked about that in 2010 02:32:37.840 --> 02:32:43.200 the past, so that's not really a new theory, but very possible that 2011 02:32:43.399 --> 02:32:48.600 somebody had a uh theory. Now, I don't know who rich Rebel is 2012 02:32:48.799 --> 02:32:52.040 or you know, is that a Jewish last name? I mean that sounds 2013 02:32:52.079 --> 02:32:56.079 a little Jewish, you know. I'll give give Jimmy something other, you 2014 02:32:56.200 --> 02:33:00.600 know, the bias man, you know, since he's always you know, 2015 02:33:01.920 --> 02:33:03.719 Okay, I don't know why that is. But no, it's not that 2016 02:33:03.840 --> 02:33:07.440 he's a Jew. It's that he's a guy who's tied to the CIA and 2017 02:33:07.680 --> 02:33:11.399 probably did work for all kinds of weapons and things that they used, et 2018 02:33:11.479 --> 02:33:15.399 cetera. I mean, that's a that's a very cursory look at who he 2019 02:33:15.639 --> 02:33:18.920 was, but you can look him up. He's publicly known to have been 2020 02:33:18.959 --> 02:33:24.000 a guy who was operationally involved in some stuff. But it's that would be 2021 02:33:24.040 --> 02:33:28.479 the guy I would think that might have developed a suppressor of silence or something 2022 02:33:28.559 --> 02:33:33.719 like that to misdirect where shots come from. And we we've discussed that in 2023 02:33:33.799 --> 02:33:37.399 the past in the community before. For sure, it's not a popular topic 2024 02:33:37.479 --> 02:33:39.559 at this time, but it has been discussed in the past. Just so 2025 02:33:39.680 --> 02:33:45.760 you know, I'll try to look it up. I'd never really sign it 2026 02:33:45.799 --> 02:33:50.159 before. Yeah, you can find it. I want to say Ray Marcus 2027 02:33:50.280 --> 02:33:52.159 might have looked at it, but I'm not sure because I know Ray Marcus 2028 02:33:52.239 --> 02:33:58.879 did the whole tracing the three nine and all that stuff, which is another 2029 02:33:58.959 --> 02:34:03.600 thing you're gonna hear from. Uh Paul Uh? Oh god, what is 2030 02:34:03.639 --> 02:34:07.879 the guy? The Secret Service guy Paul Landis who recently came out with his 2031 02:34:07.040 --> 02:34:13.440 declaration that he pocketed the bullet and all this stuff, which yeah, yeah, 2032 02:34:13.879 --> 02:34:16.799 which I think is a load of crap. But you know, he 2033 02:34:16.920 --> 02:34:20.040 sold a book pretty well, didn't he. Uh. And then again, 2034 02:34:20.079 --> 02:34:22.200 there's plenty of people that do that. Every once in a while. They 2035 02:34:22.239 --> 02:34:24.639 pop up their heads, they offer a new theory, sell a book, 2036 02:34:24.680 --> 02:34:28.239 and then disappear because the theory falls apart, their alleged witness testimony, their 2037 02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:31.639 confession falls apart, et cetera, et cetera. You know, Uh, 2038 02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:35.159 James Files, mister Sutton there has been released from prison. We haven't heard 2039 02:34:35.200 --> 02:34:39.760 from him yet either, have we sixtieth anniversary. You thought we might have 2040 02:34:39.799 --> 02:34:45.040 heard from mister Files by now, but no. Okay, a lot of 2041 02:34:45.120 --> 02:34:48.000 things going on regarding JFK and uh, yeah, I hope you'll be listening, 2042 02:34:48.079 --> 02:34:50.719 Harlan, because that might be an interesting night. I have no idea 2043 02:34:50.760 --> 02:34:56.639 what those callers are going to bring to me, because I mean i'd call 2044 02:34:56.760 --> 02:34:58.319 im if you know there's any change, you know, if you're getting home. 2045 02:34:58.399 --> 02:35:03.719 But you know those big shows, I mean, you know, I'm 2046 02:35:03.799 --> 02:35:07.319 assuming that their thousand Chile and you only hear you know a handful. I'll 2047 02:35:07.319 --> 02:35:11.319 give you a Coast to Coast back. I'll give you a Coast to coast 2048 02:35:11.399 --> 02:35:16.360 hint because whenever I wanted to get on there as a caller, I was 2049 02:35:16.399 --> 02:35:20.440 able to do so. And the thing is is that you wait for just 2050 02:35:20.600 --> 02:35:26.520 before they go to commercial and then start to uh rapid dial your phone a 2051 02:35:26.559 --> 02:35:31.719 bunch of times, and that often helps. I was literally the first caller 2052 02:35:31.799 --> 02:35:37.079 in the twenty twelve show on JFK, just so you know, and that's 2053 02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:39.079 how I got well, actually I was given a little anyway, I'm not 2054 02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:41.040 going to talk about that, but the thing is, I was giving a 2055 02:35:41.079 --> 02:35:43.639 little hint. But you can get onto Coast to coast if you wait for 2056 02:35:43.760 --> 02:35:48.639 right when they're going to commercial break, right when you hear the music creep 2057 02:35:48.719 --> 02:35:54.200 in under the announcer uh and you start re dialing right then you'll often get 2058 02:35:54.280 --> 02:35:58.239 in because that's when the producers go to the lines and open them up real 2059 02:35:58.360 --> 02:36:01.760 quick and take the calls in again. I don't know why they have them, 2060 02:36:03.920 --> 02:36:11.440 but it was so I'm going to ask if you pre ordered Don Jefferies 2061 02:36:11.559 --> 02:36:16.399 note book on JFK. I believe it's Kyle Piped the Red Bimbo. Nope, 2062 02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:20.920 I have not gotten in this. He's uh, I guess that's what 2063 02:36:20.079 --> 02:36:26.399 Dean Andrews. Dean Andrews the Third he probably wrote it about right. Yeah, 2064 02:36:26.719 --> 02:36:31.639 yeah, I knew he was working on that until like this week. 2065 02:36:31.719 --> 02:36:35.159 I made to go back and check on it. No, I mean, 2066 02:36:35.239 --> 02:36:39.000 I'll see about who's putting that out? By the way, is that Skyhorse 2067 02:36:39.079 --> 02:36:43.520 or is it somebody else? I can't remember. I don't know if it 2068 02:36:43.639 --> 02:36:48.000 was them, or if it was his publisher on his Hitting history books. 2069 02:36:48.239 --> 02:36:54.879 Okay, because what he called Skyhorse won't send me books anymore, but one 2070 02:36:54.920 --> 02:36:56.520 of his other publishers might. I mean, I'll I'll take a look at 2071 02:36:56.559 --> 02:37:01.840 it, that's for sure, or Don wants to send me you know, 2072 02:37:01.040 --> 02:37:05.959 was that well, if Don wants to send me a copy, because I 2073 02:37:05.000 --> 02:37:07.600 don't know if I'll have money for it, but uh or you know, 2074 02:37:09.520 --> 02:37:11.399 then again, some people have sent me gifts lately. I even got one 2075 02:37:11.440 --> 02:37:15.959 of those prayer Man books sent to me in the mail recently, which I 2076 02:37:16.040 --> 02:37:18.559 didn't order. Somebody ordered it for me and sent it to me. Uh, 2077 02:37:18.680 --> 02:37:22.559 hey, be sure to take that in Dallas with you. I'm gonna 2078 02:37:22.559 --> 02:37:26.840 the cover is idiots by the way, No, because I want to read 2079 02:37:26.879 --> 02:37:33.200 it, so before you put it up for sale. Yeah, no, 2080 02:37:33.280 --> 02:37:37.600 I'll bring it with me. Maybe maybe if I can get through it quick, 2081 02:37:37.680 --> 02:37:41.600 I'll let you have it. But it's uh. The the cover is 2082 02:37:41.639 --> 02:37:46.479 the ugliest damn cover I've ever seen in a JFK book, bar none, 2083 02:37:46.920 --> 02:37:50.639 because it's a big blow up of blurry ass prayer man uh on the on 2084 02:37:50.760 --> 02:37:54.159 the front cover and that's all it is, with some text over it, 2085 02:37:54.440 --> 02:37:58.319 just so you know. It's gentlemen. I need to cut in here real 2086 02:37:58.399 --> 02:38:01.399 quick because I have I have to go. Sure, so I'm gonna I 2087 02:38:01.520 --> 02:38:07.879 will, I will, I will yield my time. Good conversation, and 2088 02:38:07.360 --> 02:38:09.680 Chuck, I will talk to you. I'll catch up with you this week. 2089 02:38:09.920 --> 02:38:13.639 Yeah. You all have a good evening and have a great weekend everyone. 2090 02:38:13.840 --> 02:38:18.479 Good night. Absolutely Katain, thank you. So that leaves us with 2091 02:38:20.120 --> 02:38:22.840 Vance BPTE. Should we go to Vance now or you want to throw something 2092 02:38:22.879 --> 02:38:28.879 in? Absolutely gotcha. We'll save you for the end then, Vance. 2093 02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:33.239 I know you've been on hold the longest time here, and I think you 2094 02:38:33.280 --> 02:38:35.399 were to first call her in. But how you doing, man, go 2095 02:38:35.479 --> 02:38:41.399 ahead, make you make your statement. Fine, I guess I could work 2096 02:38:41.479 --> 02:38:46.200 this in here with the JFK stuff. I sent you that link to the 2097 02:38:48.040 --> 02:38:50.799 speech of John Kennedy in nineteen sixty, you know, when he was running 2098 02:38:50.879 --> 02:38:58.879 for president and the zion this counsel or conference or whatever, I can't remember 2099 02:38:58.920 --> 02:39:03.719 the name of that, but it was a Zionist organization that he was addressing. 2100 02:39:03.840 --> 02:39:07.840 And and I read that real late at night, and so maybe I'm 2101 02:39:07.959 --> 02:39:11.239 just you know, kind of I might I might be wrong on it, 2102 02:39:11.319 --> 02:39:15.879 but it appeared to me that in that speech he was, you know, 2103 02:39:16.079 --> 02:39:22.159 real glowing and you know, all pro Israel and and you know, extolled 2104 02:39:22.239 --> 02:39:26.879 all the you know, virtues of the creation. And but then at the 2105 02:39:28.079 --> 02:39:31.680 end it seemed like he you know, what he was saying that you know, 2106 02:39:31.799 --> 02:39:35.159 he believed that, you know, that the peace could be achieved at 2107 02:39:35.239 --> 02:39:39.600 the United States presidents could could you know, call together whatever you know, 2108 02:39:39.600 --> 02:39:45.360 I can't remember about details, but you know, start that process of the 2109 02:39:46.280 --> 02:39:48.079 peace accords and all that kind of stuff, which I know they've done, 2110 02:39:48.159 --> 02:39:52.479 you know here in the bubble. But anyway, it's and is it seemed 2111 02:39:52.479 --> 02:39:56.159 to me that he, you know, made it pretty clear there at the 2112 02:39:56.319 --> 02:40:01.399 end that that our our goal should be to support peace on all sides, 2113 02:40:01.520 --> 02:40:07.120 and to support any one side and be argumented over the other side, and 2114 02:40:07.239 --> 02:40:11.079 that we should respond, you know, with equal authority to you right, 2115 02:40:11.159 --> 02:40:18.639 any wrongs of anyone attacking anyone. And so was that your impression or am 2116 02:40:18.680 --> 02:40:22.600 I just reading something into it or misremembering. No, you're not reading something 2117 02:40:22.639 --> 02:40:26.239 into it or misremembering. It's interesting when you take a look at Kennedy's public 2118 02:40:26.280 --> 02:40:30.079 speeches, which by the way, he was not the sole author of his 2119 02:40:30.159 --> 02:40:37.079 own public speeches. Usually he always had speech writers. But the sentiments are 2120 02:40:37.360 --> 02:40:41.319 always interesting. There is always a public side and a private side, and 2121 02:40:41.399 --> 02:40:46.520 they often contradict one another. You see, he makes all those glowing statements 2122 02:40:46.559 --> 02:40:50.079 and then at the end says, but I support the idea that we should 2123 02:40:50.120 --> 02:40:54.159 do this all very peacefully, which was not going to be done in the 2124 02:40:54.280 --> 02:41:03.239 nineteen sixties. And the thing is he also wanted Apak and other Israeli assets 2125 02:41:03.799 --> 02:41:09.920 to be recognized as hostile foreign entities here in this country, him and his 2126 02:41:09.000 --> 02:41:16.120 brother both his brother is attorney general and he is president, so there is 2127 02:41:16.680 --> 02:41:22.879 always a dualen. Yeah, that might have played into you know, why 2128 02:41:22.959 --> 02:41:26.440 he got off. Yeah. Well, but there's the thing is that there 2129 02:41:26.559 --> 02:41:30.520 is a theory out there that it's the Masade and literally people from the State 2130 02:41:30.559 --> 02:41:35.799 of Israel that are responsible for the assassination due to his hostility toward them, 2131 02:41:35.879 --> 02:41:41.600 and some of them falsely claimed that he was preventing Israel from getting nuclear weapons. 2132 02:41:41.920 --> 02:41:46.879 That's inaccurate because they already had the nuclear weapons for at least ten years 2133 02:41:46.959 --> 02:41:52.000 before he took office, at least, if not more. So there was 2134 02:41:52.040 --> 02:41:56.559 no preventing something that had already been in place. But it's it's very interesting 2135 02:41:56.879 --> 02:42:00.479 that he couldn't take it back, or he could have. Maybe he was 2136 02:42:00.559 --> 02:42:03.479 going to make trouble for it, you know. Yeah, that's also a 2137 02:42:03.559 --> 02:42:09.079 possibility. He was not entirely friendly in his actual actions to the State of 2138 02:42:09.200 --> 02:42:13.520 Israel. He wasn't unfriendly to it either. It's a weird thing. There's 2139 02:42:13.639 --> 02:42:16.239 nuance in there. It's not a clearly black and white issue with him. 2140 02:42:16.319 --> 02:42:20.079 And that's the funny part is almost anything, if you break it down, 2141 02:42:20.120 --> 02:42:22.959 you look at the public statements versus what was going on behind the scenes. 2142 02:42:22.000 --> 02:42:30.040 Always there's a dual track happening where quite often he's saying and some people think 2143 02:42:30.079 --> 02:42:33.520 that I'm being an apologist for him, I'm not. I'm just stating the 2144 02:42:33.639 --> 02:42:37.120 reality that some public statements don't really match the actions going on behind the scenes. 2145 02:42:39.159 --> 02:42:43.639 And that was a different time period where the idea was, you know 2146 02:42:43.719 --> 02:42:46.319 what, we're going to protect the people from even getting involved in some of 2147 02:42:46.399 --> 02:42:52.719 these discussions because they won't understand all the complicated issues. He was definitely a 2148 02:42:52.760 --> 02:42:58.680 product of that time and focused on the Cold War, fighting communism and all 2149 02:42:58.760 --> 02:43:01.760 that, even though he was also involved in the process of trying to make 2150 02:43:01.840 --> 02:43:05.000 de taut, trying to normalize stuff with Cuba, even after all the other 2151 02:43:05.120 --> 02:43:09.920 mess that went on. There's more than one thing happening. And it's never 2152 02:43:11.040 --> 02:43:13.920 black and white with Kennedy, which is always interesting because there are people that 2153 02:43:13.000 --> 02:43:18.879 make him into this great, you know, ethical hero, they're they're incorrect. 2154 02:43:18.639 --> 02:43:22.639 There are also others that make them into some you know, tremendous demon, 2155 02:43:22.879 --> 02:43:26.239 just a philandering, you know, screwing every chick you could, you 2156 02:43:26.319 --> 02:43:28.600 know, drug addict mess who was just you know, horrible person for our 2157 02:43:28.719 --> 02:43:33.600 nation. Those people are wrong too. He was a nuanced person who did 2158 02:43:33.719 --> 02:43:39.120 things that were not always black and white. There was nuance, there was 2159 02:43:39.200 --> 02:43:43.440 gray areas man, and that's what you could see through that speech and his 2160 02:43:43.559 --> 02:43:48.079 behavior towards the state of Israel one of many things where you can see that. 2161 02:43:48.239 --> 02:43:52.840 Yeah, go ahead, sorry, I'm just I'm you know, if 2162 02:43:52.879 --> 02:43:56.159 I was financially abel, i'd be you know, making I want peace. 2163 02:43:56.319 --> 02:44:01.040 We want peace t shirts and bumper stickers, and you know it's time. 2164 02:44:01.639 --> 02:44:05.280 You know, I'm sick and tired of talking about who did what when back 2165 02:44:05.399 --> 02:44:09.040 then and because and why It's like what we're going to do now? You 2166 02:44:09.120 --> 02:44:13.079 know, why do we have to keep going through all this stuff? Because 2167 02:44:13.120 --> 02:44:16.399 you know, I was just born a human being on planet Earth, and 2168 02:44:16.639 --> 02:44:20.680 I didn't get to choose where it was. And you know, so we 2169 02:44:20.799 --> 02:44:22.280 got to figure out a by the way that you know that we ain't going 2170 02:44:22.360 --> 02:44:26.440 to solve this by being this or that or that or this. We got 2171 02:44:26.680 --> 02:44:31.479 we got to be human beings again, and you know, it's time for 2172 02:44:31.600 --> 02:44:35.239 a peace revolution, you know, ten times bigger than what they had in 2173 02:44:35.319 --> 02:44:39.360 the sixties and all that, you know, and just you know, I 2174 02:44:39.440 --> 02:44:41.799 think a lot of people are really tired of it. I mean that the 2175 02:44:41.879 --> 02:44:46.959 empire's falling, okay, you know, and it can I guess follow on 2176 02:44:46.040 --> 02:44:50.920 our terms or their terms. And obviously they got the upper hand. But 2177 02:44:50.600 --> 02:44:54.840 you know, if we had a you know, uh, you know, 2178 02:44:54.000 --> 02:44:58.200 fifty hundred million people, you know, the event where you know, everybody 2179 02:44:58.440 --> 02:45:01.920 you know joined together and said we are tired of this and we don't want 2180 02:45:01.959 --> 02:45:05.559 to support it. Well maybe that can you know, stop, you know, 2181 02:45:05.680 --> 02:45:11.920 clog up the cars a little bit and move on to another diamond and 2182 02:45:11.079 --> 02:45:16.040 human evolution, you know, versus revolution. You know. So I'll stop 2183 02:45:16.120 --> 02:45:20.799 there and you'll have a great weekend and talk to you next time. Excellent 2184 02:45:20.799 --> 02:45:24.840 advance. Well, you know, to me, the idea that Kennedy was 2185 02:45:24.879 --> 02:45:31.799 consistently talking about peace and the concept of the abolition completely of warfare and conflict 2186 02:45:31.920 --> 02:45:35.239 and things like that, that to me was the most dangerous idea he ever 2187 02:45:35.360 --> 02:45:41.239 presented at American University, at Rice at other places. That to me was 2188 02:45:41.319 --> 02:45:46.319 the culmination of a whole lot of these things. Is that's the biggest problem, 2189 02:45:46.760 --> 02:45:48.239 is that that was going to be no good for the business of blood, 2190 02:45:48.760 --> 02:45:52.239 which is a lot of people's business. And I think that's the thing 2191 02:45:52.280 --> 02:45:58.159 that actually got him killed is the idea that if these programs, if cooperation, 2192 02:45:58.040 --> 02:46:05.399 if you know, stopping conflict and ceasing the spending on that was directed 2193 02:46:05.520 --> 02:46:09.200 more towards I don't know, furthering all of us who are sharing the same 2194 02:46:09.280 --> 02:46:13.440 air, the same planet, et cetera, et cetera. If that was 2195 02:46:13.520 --> 02:46:16.959 the concept that could be promoted, that would have been one of the most 2196 02:46:16.079 --> 02:46:20.079 dangerous things in the world for the powers that be. And I think that 2197 02:46:20.239 --> 02:46:24.959 was the biggest problem. I mean, it's my romantic idea about it. 2198 02:46:24.040 --> 02:46:28.399 After all, I guess is that anybody who tried to speak about peace and 2199 02:46:28.479 --> 02:46:37.040 cooperation and yeah, evolving a revolution of evolution, well in the nineteen sixties 2200 02:46:37.079 --> 02:46:41.239 they just put a bullet in their head for that and that was the end 2201 02:46:41.319 --> 02:46:46.639 of that whole thing. So that seems to me to be a consistent element 2202 02:46:46.719 --> 02:46:50.280 here, and that's the way it stood. And then I think once people 2203 02:46:50.319 --> 02:46:54.520 got tired of watching assassinations unfold, and you know, by the time somebody 2204 02:46:54.600 --> 02:46:58.680 tries to even shoot George Wallace for Christ's sake, you know, people got 2205 02:46:58.719 --> 02:47:01.520 a little tired of it all and then had to come up with new methodologies, 2206 02:47:01.559 --> 02:47:03.159 which is why Nixon, I think, got knee capped by a CIA 2207 02:47:03.280 --> 02:47:07.600 stooge again, another guy who comes up in that discussion with Jimmy James, 2208 02:47:07.719 --> 02:47:13.840 but and a group of CIA stooges who made sure to get him that office, 2209 02:47:13.840 --> 02:47:16.719 because no matter how criminal you think he was, he was really business 2210 02:47:16.799 --> 02:47:20.840 as usual, and he might have challenged the status quo also because he might 2211 02:47:20.879 --> 02:47:22.639 have been a true believer in the system and wanted it to behave Oh I 2212 02:47:22.680 --> 02:47:28.959 don't know, as it was mandated to behave. Yeah. I don't vilify 2213 02:47:30.079 --> 02:47:33.360 Nixon as much as a lot of other people do in history. But anyway, 2214 02:47:33.920 --> 02:47:35.920 there's a lot to it, a lot we can get at, and 2215 02:47:37.200 --> 02:47:41.159 I would love to see us of all evolve to a point where we don't 2216 02:47:41.200 --> 02:47:43.959 have to be shooting at one another, you know, whether it's locally, 2217 02:47:43.680 --> 02:47:48.319 or it's country to country, or it's you know, threatening weapons or utilizing 2218 02:47:48.399 --> 02:47:52.920 asymmetric warfare or terrorism or whatever it is you want to call it. To 2219 02:47:52.040 --> 02:47:56.639 achieve your goals. Yeah, I'd love to see us stop bartering in blood 2220 02:47:56.079 --> 02:48:01.760 in totality, but unfortunately I live on planet Earth and human beings don't seem 2221 02:48:01.799 --> 02:48:05.760 to want to abandon that methodology. I'd love to see it, though, 2222 02:48:07.360 --> 02:48:11.840 don't think it'll happen while I'm still breathing. But I got this weird little 2223 02:48:11.079 --> 02:48:16.559 strain of hope in me for some reason about it. So I wish Vancey 2224 02:48:16.639 --> 02:48:18.959 you were correct, And if enough people raised up their voice and said, 2225 02:48:20.040 --> 02:48:22.440 you know, stop the violence, that might actually stop the violence, no 2226 02:48:22.520 --> 02:48:28.120 matter where it is. But if history tells me anything, people do figure 2227 02:48:28.120 --> 02:48:33.239 out different ways to amplify their their bitching, but usually don't find a way 2228 02:48:33.239 --> 02:48:37.719 to accomplish such things because just the business of it is all too good. 2229 02:48:37.799 --> 02:48:41.920 What did you say earlier, b Pete, war is a racket? War 2230 02:48:41.000 --> 02:48:46.639 as hell? What was the whole statement? All true? Oh? Let's 2231 02:48:46.680 --> 02:48:52.680 see what was it? War's warld war as hell? War's racket. You 2232 02:48:52.760 --> 02:48:58.360 know that's what it is. It's bad for everybody there you go. So 2233 02:48:58.520 --> 02:49:01.799 with that, Bpe, I'll give you to final word for the night, 2234 02:49:01.959 --> 02:49:05.680 and uh, we're going to close out this one after let's see what is 2235 02:49:05.760 --> 02:49:11.319 it now? Wow, almost three hours. I didn't realize. Yeah, 2236 02:49:11.600 --> 02:49:16.159 I'm sorry. Yeah, the nice discussion. I mean, we hit the 2237 02:49:16.200 --> 02:49:22.040 gamut from being spammed with Gene Simmons interviews all the way through him up to 2238 02:49:22.159 --> 02:49:28.639 the current Middle East predicament. The one problem with this particular war, of 2239 02:49:28.840 --> 02:49:35.639 the two major ones that are going on, is humanity has been removed out 2240 02:49:35.639 --> 02:49:39.959 of the equation on both sides. You have one side that says survival at 2241 02:49:41.000 --> 02:49:45.600 all costs, and you have another side that says destroy them at all costs, 2242 02:49:46.440 --> 02:49:50.239 and they're pretty much going to run it to the limit of costs before 2243 02:49:50.280 --> 02:49:54.920 it's all said and done. You would think with all the technology and ability 2244 02:49:56.520 --> 02:50:00.479 that we have to convey fought, we could have sat down on or something 2245 02:50:00.520 --> 02:50:05.799 out by now. But it's a difference of ideologies, and these two ideologies 2246 02:50:05.840 --> 02:50:07.200 are going to butt heads for quite some time. But I don't know that 2247 02:50:07.239 --> 02:50:13.280 it'll ever be settled in our lifetime. Who knows other than that, you 2248 02:50:13.319 --> 02:50:16.120 know, another great discussion, another great week, and looking forward to doing 2249 02:50:16.239 --> 02:50:20.360 it next week. Wet's see, No, next week will be No, 2250 02:50:20.959 --> 02:50:24.639 We've got one more show then we go to to Dallas. Yep. Yeah, 2251 02:50:24.680 --> 02:50:28.159 exactly one more, one more of these Friday nights before we go. 2252 02:50:28.280 --> 02:50:31.520 Until that takes place, I'd like to urge everybody to go to Achelly dot 2253 02:50:31.600 --> 02:50:37.360 com and hit the donate button. Every little bit helps, and look out 2254 02:50:37.399 --> 02:50:41.040 for your neighbor and take an interest in what's going on around you and try 2255 02:50:41.159 --> 02:50:43.319 not to stress too much over all the big stuff, right And if you 2256 02:50:43.440 --> 02:50:46.159 do that, By the way, I've got a new idea about what I'm 2257 02:50:46.159 --> 02:50:50.440 going to distribute to people in twenty twenty four. 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That's 2273 02:51:48.319 --> 02:51:52.159 what I'm gonna do from now on, and we're gonna do that through twenty 2274 02:51:52.239 --> 02:51:56.479 twenty four, where again I'm going to offer up those things plus all the 2275 02:51:56.520 --> 02:51:58.639 regular benefits for a membership at o'celly dot com. I want to go back 2276 02:51:58.680 --> 02:52:03.600 to that and see if we can't get some regular listener support, because otherwise 2277 02:52:03.559 --> 02:52:07.879 I'm gonna end up selling gold and silver and maybe a couple other products on 2278 02:52:07.959 --> 02:52:09.520 here, and I'm going to be in dat you with more commercials and stuff, 2279 02:52:09.600 --> 02:52:13.159 and i'd really rather not do that. I'd like to stay listeners supported 2280 02:52:13.200 --> 02:52:18.040 all together. So let's try and do that going forward, and hopefully my 2281 02:52:18.120 --> 02:52:22.120 appearance on Coast to Coast AM on November eighteenth, will help get us a 2282 02:52:22.120 --> 02:52:26.799 little exposure and maybe some new ears, new listeners, new community. You 2283 02:52:26.879 --> 02:52:30.239 can join us in the live chat room anytime I'm broadcasting, or even when 2284 02:52:30.239 --> 02:52:33.319 I'm not. You can always roll back the little Chattango chatroom. We got 2285 02:52:33.360 --> 02:52:37.520 it tochelli dot com if you go to the listen live page, and I 2286 02:52:37.600 --> 02:52:41.239 appreciate all of you that share the show, if you distribute the show, 2287 02:52:41.440 --> 02:52:45.920 if you share it on your social media, if you make a donation, 2288 02:52:46.200 --> 02:52:50.479 any contribution to spreading the word is extremely helpful, or to keeping me going 2289 02:52:50.280 --> 02:52:54.559 is also helpful, and in fact this month due to the fact that I 2290 02:52:54.600 --> 02:52:58.120 had to spend money on a tooth and everything else. Yeah, I'm going 2291 02:52:58.159 --> 02:53:03.120 to Dallas on on fumes. So whatever you chip in there is going to 2292 02:53:03.159 --> 02:53:05.920 go toward that trip, which me and b P it'll be departing in well 2293 02:53:05.959 --> 02:53:09.639 a little under two weeks now, but we're only going to have one more 2294 02:53:09.719 --> 02:53:13.559 live Friday night show before we go, because the Friday after that will be 2295 02:53:13.920 --> 02:53:20.000 live at Lancer and then that Saturday, like I said, I'll be on 2296 02:53:20.079 --> 02:53:22.600 Coast to Coast AM and then Sunday will be the end of the conference and 2297 02:53:22.680 --> 02:53:26.639 we'll come home. So sixtieth anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, tenth anniversary of 2298 02:53:26.680 --> 02:53:31.920 the o'helly effect, and that has now existed for a full decade. Which 2299 02:53:31.920 --> 02:53:33.600 again, you can get the whole archive if you're a regular supporter at the 2300 02:53:33.639 --> 02:53:37.600 website and you indicate to me that you want to be included in the twenty 2301 02:53:37.680 --> 02:53:41.920 twenty four monthly mailings, that's what's gonna happen. You're gonna get zip folders 2302 02:53:43.200 --> 02:53:46.760 full of gigs and gigs of over five thousand podcasts, more than two thousand 2303 02:53:46.799 --> 02:53:54.600 of mine and another two thousand plus of other peoples that I've produced, etc. 2304 02:53:54.399 --> 02:53:58.040 And other audio tracks, so on and so forth. So I'll just 2305 02:53:58.120 --> 02:54:01.280 give you the whole archive. If you support the website throughout the year, 2306 02:54:03.520 --> 02:54:05.959 what else can I give you. I'm not even gonna send out the bullet 2307 02:54:05.000 --> 02:54:09.319 tribes unless you really want them. I'll mail you one. If you want 2308 02:54:09.399 --> 02:54:11.840 some merch and all that good stuff, let me know. But still I'm 2309 02:54:11.920 --> 02:54:15.520 doing the whole just giving those things away as thank you gifts, and I'm 2310 02:54:15.520 --> 02:54:18.840 gonna give away thank you gifts at Lancer for the people that meet me in 2311 02:54:18.879 --> 02:54:20.840 person as well. So now that I've said all that, I want to 2312 02:54:20.840 --> 02:54:24.799 thank Vpete, I want to thank Vannerki himself. I want to thank Jimmy, 2313 02:54:24.879 --> 02:54:31.239 James Harlan and Captain Trips all for joining us tonight because they are what 2314 02:54:31.440 --> 02:54:35.520 made the open mic interesting on this particular Friday night. And no matter who 2315 02:54:35.600 --> 02:54:39.680 you are and where you are and when you are, I'm merely o'celly and 2316 02:54:39.799 --> 02:54:41.280 all of you