I think I'm Gary Jeff Walker, and I think it's just the little past
nine on Tuesday night, November fourteenth, twenty twenty three, joining us to
start the show. My wife, My wife Christa two point zero. As
you know if you've been listening in all the past few weeks, I decided
that it would be a good experiment to see how she could pick the NFL
game results of each week. And the first week she did really well.
Fourteen games, eleven victories, three losses. She picked eleven winners. She
not picking point spreads. My wife is not as sharp. She is a
casual football fan, a really big Bengals fan. So she was really big
bit disappointed on Sunday with the result of the Texans game because it was one
of her losses. So first week eleven and three, the second week not
bad, ten and four, just picking games. This week kind of went
downhill a little bit, eight and six. Still above five hundred, now,
mind you that, But so I decided, let's let's try this experiment.
Let's just play it out to the end of the season. We're into
week eleven now of the NFL season, and Chris to two point zero,
how are you tonight? Dear, I am doing wonderfully, Thank you.
It's tough, tough Bengals pill to swallow this past Sunday, was it not?
Oh? I really had to choke that one down, no doubt.
All right, Well, let's see, let's see as we look at the
schedule, the schedule for week eleven, let's pick some games. I'll make
sure I do a check mark appropriately on top of every team that you select,
and I'll have these on file for anyone that wants to go ahead and
head to the betting window based on Christa's picks, money line picks, not
point spreads of winter and losers in week eleven, and first off, my
dear yours, Cincinnati Bengals are traveling to Baltimore to play the Ravens. And
there's all kinds of injuries and just all kinds of swirling doubt in the air.
Who do you pick in the Bengals Ravens game for Thursday night? Oh?
I hate this, but I'm usually wrong on Thursday, So I'm gonna
pick the Ravens. That's right, You've not gotten a Thursday night game pick
right? Yet? You're zero to three. No, you didn't go over
my pants week so no, no, well you you picked the Panthers,
uh over the Bears. And the Bears, of course won last week,
So there you go. So Steelers Browns in in the division in the AFC
North, all four teams are playing each other. The Steelers are at the
Browns. Who wins Pittsburgh or Cleveland? Yeah, the Steelers. You're having
to hold your nose on a lot of these. Okay. The Raiders are
traveling to Miami to play the Dolphins. Do the Raiders pull it out on
the road or do the Dolphins maintain a victory there at home? It's the
Dolphins fish all right. Bears at the Lions, Bears and Lions and whatever?
Oh my, the Chicago Bears at the Detroit Lions. Who wins this
game? Christa? Ken? This one is for you. I'm taking the
Bears. Oh all right, for our friend Ken, Carly. The Tennessee
Titans are on the road playing Jacksonville, playing the Jags. Who wins the
game? Nn? I see? Okay. Chargers go to the frozen tundra
of lambeau Field to take on the Green Bay Packers. Is it Chargers or
Packers this time around? I'm gonna say Chargers took some extra time with that
one. Okay, your Arizona Cardinals. Your Arizona Cardinals, who this past
week were one of six teams who eked out a victory at the end of
the game on a field goal. They are traveling to Houston, who just
beat the hell out of the Bengals Cardinals or Texans Cardinals for those awful Texans
Dallas. The Cowboys on the road to play the Carolina Panthers, who are
woeful, who are pitiful? What happens? Yeah, we're going Cowboys.
How about them? Cowboys? The Giants are playing the Washington Commanders or Redskins
or whatever they're calling them this week. So are you voting? No,
I'm not looking for the Redskins. You mean the Commanders. So yeah,
so you're picking it. You're picking the Giants to win a game. I'm
picking the Giants. Good luck? All right? Uh? Tampa Bay Bucks
are playing the San Francisco forty nine ers. Who's the winner here? I
hate it. The Jets play the Buffalo Bills. Ooh go Jets. There
you go. You got the multimillion dollar turnover man. Josh Allen quarterbacking the
Buffalo Bills. He was at it again last night. Man, that was
bad. The Seahawks are on the road in LA to play the Ramshawks Seahawks
Vikings, Broncos Broncos Denver Go Denver and Eagles or my Kansas City Chiefs back
after the bye week, dude, Chiefs. Yeah good, I'm not good.
I won't be. I won't be sleeping with the enemy when I get
home. That way, all right, thank you very much for your picks,
and we'll see how you do. You got to improve over last week,
right, I know. I don't think I could do much worse.
Well, yeah, you could have been sub five hundred. That would have
been worse. But all right, yeah you know what, baby, I'll
see you when I get home, all right, all right, Tweetie,
all right, be careful, take care. Christ to two point zero with
her week eleven NFL picks. I hope you were paying attention. It could
be very profitable week for you sports betters, or maybe not. Richard c
Lyons is our guest coming up next. Find out who he is and what
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twenty twenty three on seven hundred WLW. Our next guest is a I
would say, a poetic patriot, or maybe a patriotic poet, whichever way
works. He's also the author of The DNA of Democracy Volume one and Shadows
of the Acropolis Volume two, and just some thoughts on where we stand now
with America's fledgling democracy. It used to be pretty strong, I think,
but today there are all kinds of questions for many of us about where the
country is going. Richard c Lyons, good evening, Welcome to the Nightcap.
All great to be with you, Gary, I appreciate it. So
how does an American poet take on democracy through these essays that are in these
two volumes of books that have just been released, Richard, Well, your
intro was perfect. Gary. A number of years ago, like probably most
of your audience, I began wondering what was going wrong in the United States
of America, why we had a major political party that was not acting in
accordance with our constitution. This goes back to two thousand and eight, to
the rise of Barack Obama, when I found the Little Sisters of the Poor
being sued by the federal government, the state of Arizona being sued by the
federal government and not protecting our common border. I found it was happening when
the Tea Party was attacked by the irs. So I had to fundamentally,
I had to go back to how our country was actually created, the how
and why behind it, And that's the DNA of democracy. It's all the
things that went before our country, as in Greece and Rome, and with
the Ten Commandments, and how it formed our constitution and how our country is
ideally supposed to function. And I wrote that for any reader, any common
reader in your audience. Secondly, I had to go back to how and
why our country has changed. And I found out the change began one hundred
years ago during the presidency of Woodrow Wilson, when he put c in our
federal government of socialism, with the inner progressive income tax, with the founding
of the SEC and things like that, and in inverting the relationship between the
federal government and the states. The states are now servants of the federal government.
They're not equal members to our governance. Well. Notably, Woodrow Wilson
also had journalist in prison, correct yes, and he was the first to
segregate Washington, d C. And there are some accounts that he believed in
eugenics, so this is not His philosophy was directly related to the philosophy of
Frederick Hagel and his ideal state theory, which also was the basis of socialism,
fascism, and communism, and on that basis he created our administrative state,
which since his presidency has been growing exponentially. Well, the Biden administration
seems to have doubled down on all of these things that are chinking it away
at the foundations of this country, and as far as the unequal tier of
justice, unequal tiers of justice rather with the Department of Justice and Homeland Security
being used as weapons against people who are not necessarily on the President's side or
the administration side, or the Democrat side. And it's pretty obvious to anyone
what's going on with President Trump right now is totally just it's a political hit
job and it has nothing to do with justice. That's absolutely correct. I
think mister former President Trump has been the most investigated man in human history,
non American history, human history, and has to defend him, has had
to defend himself, and if they had found anything wrong. Gary, I
think everybody on earth would know it. But because they haven't, they just
keep coming up with more charges, and each set of charges is more empty.
I mean, this civil case that has nobody who's been injured, I
mean that has to take the cake over inflation of values? Yeah, I
mean has this ever been I mean at this scale, has this ever been
done before in this country where people are taken to task for maybe making mistake
and estimating what their property or their assets are worth. Yeah, but think
about how relative that is. That's how they had to work on this.
They had to make it a civil case, and they had to A valuation
of a property is relative. I can get two banks to give me different
valuations today on the same property, and then there's your personal valuation, and
then there might be the valuation of another party that wants to purchase. It's
always relative, and so they're taking that bit of information and tailoring it to
charges they want to make. So this is like it's like Soviet Russia.
I mean, you keep hearing that, but it's true. And it's like
the Italy of Benito Mussolini, who recapped all of his political opponents. Show
me the man and I'll find a crime. Yeah. And this is all
these different things. Going after the little sisters of the poor, going after
the tea Party, Gary, going after Donald Trump. These are all symptoms
of a single disease. And it's the advance of socialism in our country.
And we're now, as my books try and point out, we're at a
y in the road where either the socialists have to hammer us down or we
take back our form of government. Well, and it seems like socialist and
Marxists all they understand is just raw power, yes, because nobody voluntarily would
live under such a system. So they have to be tyrannical. They have
to be able to take your property in mind and give it to their friends
and relatives or persons in their party's how they function. What's frightening about this,
Richard, is that if we are to take our country back, it's
going to get pretty ugly because the socialist and the Marxists will make it.
So guess I agree with that. There are things that can be done,
you know. I think it has to have a strategy that is legislative,
that is judicial, that involves the media, where people understand what has happened
in the past century, and why we're where we are today, where a
country literally is divided by opposing styles of governance. The way the administrative state
works is opposite to the way our representative government works. They are not reconcilable.
As it happened, our representative government has just been funneling money into the
administrative state, but the administrative state acts by edict, not representative law.
Indeed, sadly, so, do you think that the Republicans who do not
want Donald Trump to be their banner carrier? Do you think they're delusional at
this point with the polling that we've seen. I hope they're delusional, you
know. I was watching the television today to see where the polls were in
Iowa, and I just some people don't have a good thing to say about
Donald Trump, but he's the only person carrying the banner of conservatism. I
mean, half the Republicans do act like Democrats and go along with this march
of government growth. But Donald Trump is more akin to Ronald Reagan. And
I'm not sure how old you are or whether you remember that Ronald Reagan was
vilified. Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan was Ronald Reagan was the first president I
voted for first time. I was eligible in nineteen eighty. Yeah, that's
funny, me too, Well, we too, exactly so. But then
I don't know. You remember Gary, that the center of his party called
him an idiot. Yeah, oh yeah, and they fought him tooth and
nailed through the whole of his presidence. They said all of the same things
they said about Trump. He's going to start World War three. We're going
to be decimated by a nuclear holocaust because of his policies. We won't be
respected anywhere, We'll be laughed at around the globe, And exactly the opposite
has happened under Joe Biden. Richard, I'm sorry, I'm short on time
again. The book is DNA The DNA of Democracy, Volume one, The
Shadows of the Acropolis Volume two. Richard c Lyons is the author, and
I wish him much success with the books. Oh, thank you very much,
Gary, thanks for having me on. You bet, you bet.
It's the nightcap and we'll be right back after news with Dave Hatter. News.
Yep, it's the nightcap. Back with you. I have seven hundred
WLW Gary, Jeff Walker, and back with us our friend Dave Hatter,
the IT guy, doing some tech talk on a Tuesday night, and Dave
always sends me fantastic ideas stuff that he is tracking, stories he's found related
to well, the world of it, the it world, the Internet world,
you know what I'm talking about. So anyway, one of the stories
that really caught my eye and dragged at twelve feet this week Dave was the
headline it's perfectly legal for cars to harvest your texts and call logs. Now,
I myself do not have Bluetooth hooked up to my car. Am I
safe? Is it gonna harvest my text and my call logs because I've got
my cell phone with me while I'm driving. Well, here, Jeff,
as always, thanks for having me on, and yeah, I think this
is a really important topic on several levels. First off, you and I
had the conversation before that we have the federal government regularly violating the Fourth Amendment
by buying data from private companies. Right, they don't need a warrant.
They can go to Google and now, as we'll see, you can go
to your car manufacturer and all kinds of different companies, data brokers, and
so forth. You have access to data that they they want. So this
just feeds into that, but I think it's much bigger than most people realize.
So before I get specifically into this, most Zilla, the people that
make the Firefox browser and other software, recently did a study. They have
a great website. I want to put out this. Some people called privacy
not Included, and it's all about products and services and so forth out there
that are sucking up enormous amounts of your data. Reminder of folks that if
you're not paying with money, you're paying with data. You are the product,
not the customer. And you know, they go through an analyze a
lot of these things and help you understand it's you're making that kind of trade
off, because again, it's not free, right Gary, Jeff. You're
paying with your data. And if you understand that and make that choice,
well, okay, that's on you. But I don't think most people really
understand just how much data, how detailed the data is, and how widespread
that data can become over time as it's bought and sold through different data brokers
really is. So if you look at this Mozilla study, they looked at
twenty five different car manufacturers, and I would bet you if you and your
listeners go take a look at that. You will be shocked at the amount
of data that virtually every major car company is now collecting about you from your
car, because all new cars are basically just rolling computers. So now to
get back to our specific topic here, there have been several class action lawsuits,
most recently in Washington State, where they have a privacy law somewhat similar
to the California Consume a Privacy Act. That's one of our big problems.
There's no most states don't have any laws on this. There's no federal standard,
so you know, companies can pretty much do whatever they want. And
in this case, the most recent case was Honda. They went to court,
took Honda to court over the information they were collecting, and it was
thrown out because they said there was no harm being done. It's all like
theoretical not actual harm. Again, I'm not an attorney. People can decide
for themselves. But the more important part of it, going back to your
question, is if you're not plugged into the Bluetooth on your phone or your
car, can it sucked up all your information? Well, I'm going to
say no, probably not, because if you're just using your phone to the
cellular carrier's connection and you don't interface with the car, either by plugging it
into a cable in the entertainment center or connecting via Bluetooth, then yet it
shouldn't be able to collect your information. But if you, like most people
in newer cars that have this capability, or connecting your phone to that enfotainment
center, whether it's Bluetooth or through a cable, unless you've taken some specific
precautions which may or may not work fully to limit the amount of information it
collects. As you can see from this lawsuit, it's sucking down your text.
It's getting an enormous amount of information about you, and there's really nothing
you can do about it, and there's really no way to know what they're
doing with it once they have it. So as much as possible, remain
unconnected to that crap, is what you're telling me. That's the yeah.
I mean, if you have an older car, it's probably not going to
have this capability, or we'll have limited capabilities. But there have been plenty
of examples out of there. Gary Jeff were reporters have gone out gone to
jump cards and specifically to prove this, bought entertainment centers from red cars and
then see what data is on it, and it's text between two spouses.
It's all kinds of very sensitive private information. And the bigger thing I want
to point out to Sols. I mean, it's one thing to say,
oh, okay, it's my car, I'm going to drive us for ten
years. I don't care about that. But if you go rent a car
and you plug your phone into that car so that you can make calls and
listen to music and send text hands free and all that stuff, it's going
to suck all your data down into the entertainment center that little car, and
then who knows who will have access to that where ends up. So even
if you don't take anything else away from this conversation, I strongly recommend to
people, if you rent a car, or you're in a friend's car,
acquaintances, car, colleagues, car, whatever, do not connect your phone
to that device unless you know what you're doing. And then even then you
may have limited capability to manage the amount of data it's collecting because who knows
where it's going after talking as of this lawsuit? Who knows right talking to
Dave hat Ter tonight on the Nightcap on seven hundred WLW Dave. I just
saw a promo yesterday on a series that one of the local news stations is
running about being taken hostage by AI. You and I have discussed many times
the ability to replicate anyone's voice with just very very little audio, and be
able to replicate people's you know, video with their face and the whole thing,
and it's just that technology is just really in its infancy right now,
but it is getting better by the day, maybe by the hour. And
a woman in the promo for this particular investigative story, I think it was
on Local twelve was talking about how she could hear a woman whimpering in the
background as she received this phone call from someone who said that they had her
sister if she called the police, if she did anything, he would put
a bullet in her head. And heard the woman's voice on the phone whimpering
and said, that's my sister. I know my sister. And basically the
caller wanted her to pay a certain ransom or whatever, or her sister was
going to get shot in the head. Now, if that happened to me,
I would say, well, I am calling the place and you might
as well go ahead. And shoot her because I don't have a sister.
But for the average person, I mean, what do you think you should
do? What should people be aware of in a situation like that, because
it's going to pop up more and more often as the artificial intelligence and ability
to deep fake continues to improve, almost on a daily basis. I think
your hunts is absolutely right, and there's increasing evidence of that. I mean,
you can go right now and do a quick search. Don't use Google
these, go start Page or a privacy friendly search engine, and you'll find
all kinds of examples of real world scams like what you describe that are taking
place as we speak. A New York postess or did a story on this
where a woman got a similar call, supposedly her daughter in jail. These
fifteen thousand dollars sounded just like her daughter. So I think these scams are
definitely going to increase for two reasons. First Off, most people don't realize
that this technology and this capability is really a thing. And secondarily, I
don't think most people, even if they do know about it, don't realiz
how easily accessible it is to the bad guys. You know, as you
mentioned, we've discussed before. Right now, you can go do a search.
I can. I have done this. I know from firsthand experience.
It's true. You can go do a search, find a website that will
literally cost you nothing, and either train it with a voice, so someone
reads a sentence and then it uses them reading that sentence to train their model,
or if you have access to their voice, you can upload their voice,
train the model, and in less than forty five minutes you will have
something that sounds pretty much exactly like that person, especially if you have more
audio to train it on. And people will always say to me Gary Jeff,
well, you know I'm not on TV, I'm not a celebrity,
how would they get my voice? Well, let's face it, many people
use social media and post video and audio themselves online all the time. But
even if you say, why don't do any of that stuff? Okay,
do you have voicemail? If I call your home phone or your mobile phone
or your work phone, is your voice on the greeting? Because if it
is good likelihood, does an enough there that I can train the model?
And now I'm view So I think the first thing is to know that this
is the thing, and that if you get one of these calls, right,
they're hitting you with a double whammy. First off, they're using the
AI to create something that sounds authentic, and secondarily, they're using social engineering
to try to catch you off guard, play on your emotions, get you,
to put you in a situation that requires some sort of urgent action,
and hope that you'll just act on. So you know, to your point,
obviously, if you don't have a sister, well you know it's fake,
but you know they're The first step is to know it's real. The
second step and you and I have discussed this so many times, where I
don't answer phone calls from numbers that don't recognize Yep, I am not going
to answer a call from a number I don't recognize. Now, I also
understand it's very easy to spoof a phone number. So if you've been targeted
for something like this, could someone do some research and perhaps figure out your
daughter's phone number or your mother's phone number or something maybe and then spoot that
because it's easy to spoof a phone number as well, so even that is
not fool proof. But don't answer calls from numbers you don't recognize, and
then I you know I'm not a law enforcement officer, Nor am I an
attorney, But I think you know, as soon as you get this sort
of call, you have to just rationally say, there's a ninety nine percent
likelihood this is fake. You're going to want to go out of band and
try to talk to that person. You know, I would certainly report it
to local law enforcement. But if you whip out a credit card or pay
them in any way because of one of these calls, you know, it's
ninety nine percent sure you're being scammed. For the average person, what's the
likelihood that their daughter suddenly got kidnapped? You know, I don't know what
this sure it's pretty low. Well unless you're Liam Neeson and then it's yeah,
it's entirely all the time. I mean, if his daughter's not cad
kidnapped, it's a weird day in that guy's life. Just a couple of
weeks ago, Dave Batter, just a couple of weeks ago, or within
the last couple of weeks. FBI Director Christopher Ray was testifying talking about the
danger of cyber attacks against the backdrop of what's going on in the Middle East
and Iran's obvious involvement in providing the Islami jihadist with all the materials they need
to attack and kill Jews in Israel. But he was talking about the danger
of cyber attacks because of America's stance by Iran. He said, the cyber
targeting of American interest and critical infrastructure that we already see conducted by Iran and
non state actors alike, we can expect to get worse if the conflict expands.
And so this is real US official. We known you and I have
talked about We've known it's real for a while and been talking about it.
But now with what's going on with the Israel and the attacks by Hamas and
Hezbala and Islami jihad and all through Ara and our continued stance with Israel,
it's all the more likely that those nonstate actors that we're talking about and the
Iranians with their capabilities, are going to ramp this up. Well, Gary,
Jeff, Yeah, we've talked about it off and on for a long
time. Anyone that's paying attention to this space is talking about it because our
society is increasingly digital. Right. We just talked about how your car is
basically a rolling computer. Even if you could just let's say knock out all
the cars from the specific manufacturer through some sort of attack, or turn them
into weapons because they would uncontrollably accelerate or something that could cause a lot of
damage. But if you could knock out the whole power grid, if you
could poison the water supply. And when this sounds crazy to people, look
up the Oldsmore water plant in Florida. Within the last two years, there
was an attack on the Oldsmore water plan in Florida. They were able,
through theanced cybersecurity practices and so forth, to break into this choice and change
the amount of chemicals going into of water. Thankfully it was caught before it
was released to the public. But I mean, you know, we're talking
about significant impacts on public safety in the physical world. And you know Ray
mentions Iran here's another headline. But I hadn't since you yet. NSA seems
pretty stressed about the threat of Chinese tackers in US critical infrastructure. You know,
if you work in the business like me, you'll hear the term access
of evil basically applied to China, Iran, North Korea, and Russia.
Yep, all four of them have a giant footprint in this space. All
four of them obviously are adversaries of the United States in some you know,
there was recent story that North Korea they believe is generating about two billion dollars
a year that funds their government through cybercrime. But this this critical infrastructure thing.
You know, it's one thing to have a business lose a lot of
money or maybe even go out of business because of a cyber attack. I
don't know if you talk the recent story about Clorox, you know, big
company, they're claiming that the ransomware attack that hit them is actually going to
have a material impact on their earnings and on their according to the SEC.
So that's a problem. For sure, people lose their jobs, companies go
out of business. But if you can knock out the whole power grid,
or demail a train full of chlorine gas, or shut down all the trucks
that are bringing the three days worth of food and the supply chain to you,
this is a major problem. And you know, I'm happy that the
federal government now seems to be taking this seriously and has been warning for a
long time, relatively speaking. Anyway, again, this story I just read
you for wired, nsay seems pretty stressed about the thread of Chinese hackers.
You know, Iran, China, Russia. These are all known threats.
Russia has demonstrated their capabilities in Ukraine long before this current war. They shut
the power grid down over there several times. If you go back and look
at what we did in Iran with stucks net. Now we've never claimed this,
but just for folks, if you don't know, look up stucks net.
It will blow people's minds. As far back as twenty ten, we
developed what I would describe as a very advanced virus that we were able to
sneak into these facilities where uranium was being enriched, deploy this software into these
advanced cinifuges that were refining the uranium, and while the operators thought the machines
were operating with intolerance, they were basically ripping themselves to pieces internally, and
the software was telling them everything is okay. I mean, we destroyed,
as I understand it, dozens and dozens of centrifuges before they finally figured out
what was happening. So when people say this is farfetched, it can't happen,
it's already been done. It's been done numerous times. It just hasn't
happened to us yet. And you know, the concern that I, like
so many people who are worried about this, have is all of this infrastructure
is old. We don't take it seriously. All the technology that makes the
Internet work is old. It was built at a time when security wasn't a
concern, and now our entire society runs off. So if you think it's
far fetched that China or Iran or Russia couldn't potentially knock out the power grid
or cast some sort of real world disaster, again, look how many people
died and in and that Boapaul incident. When chlorine gas is released, Imagine
derailing a bunch of trains full of chlorine gas. It would kill thousands of
people wherever those trains went off the rails. So I don't want to be
too doomy on this, Gary, Jeff, but it's a real concern.
I'm glad they're trying to make wallmakers aware. And I mean we need to
make significant investments in our infrastructure, not only from a cyber perspective, but
also backups. I mean, you know, if you knock out the power
generation capability at a substation and there's no equipment to replace it. How long
is it going to take before the power comes back off? Right? And
you know what we've talked about the dangers of electromagnetic pulse, you know,
a kinetic thing, the EMP knocking out everything that is now so connected to
the grid, and you know there's no archaic backup to per se to take
up the slack of something like that. This is exactly the same kind of
thing, only without EMP. Right, yeah, I mean it's the e
MP would theoretically be much more devastating. But you know, depending on how
deeply they are into the grid and different power plants and so forth, could
you you know, put off something of the same scale or maybe even bigger
perhaps d you know, sun spots. There's all kinds of reasons why this
is a concern, but when you have them telling you straight up, we
got to get these people out of these systems. We have to secure our
systems. People should be listening to this. Dave Hatter from Interest it our
tech talk guy on a nightcap. Thank you so much, my friend,
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No Kidd always the author of Rediscovering America. He does a lot of other
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holiday on the calendar by far. And his name is Scott Powell. He
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delight you, and blow your mind, so says Scott Powell. And
here he is with us. Good evening, Scott, how are you.
I'm great, Gary, Jeff, and it's so nice to be with you.
I tell you you've got the WLW IS is the greatest station in all
of America. So and in the book Rediscovering America. We've talked about it
so many times and are again tonight. In relation to Thanksgiving, do you
say there are five tenants that make Thanksgiving and make it special and make it
crucial, integrat integral. Yeah. Yeah, to the foundation and the continuance
of the greatness of America. So let's start. Well, I really,
first of all, let me tell the audience that Thanksgiving is just one segment
out of the Pilgrim story. So we're going to talk about the Pilgrim story
and why it's so significant to our founding and really to the development of our
country. But what is there are five elements. The first element and that
makes makes the Pilgrims a unique group is they were the first of many groups
of settlers who came to America, but they were the only group that was
singularly motivated by a vitual quest for religious freedom, you know, one that
had its origin with the Protestant Reformation century before. But what's interesting too,
is that it reminds us of our Jewish heritage because it was it was William
Bradford was the hent of the group, and he repeatedly spoke about their voyage
to the New World in terms of a flight from tyranny to freedom, comparing
themselves to God's chosen people, the Israelites who overcame slavery and abuse in Egypt
to get to the Promised Land. And as a matter of fact, William
Bradford wrote the first twenty pages of his diary that basically tells the Pilgrim story
in the Hebrew language. In other words, he was an Englishman. His
natural tongue and writing is in English, and yet he chose to write it
in Hebrew. Very profound. We have this, you know, we have
this Jewish Raeic heritage as well as the Christian heritage. So but the Pilgrims
were a group of people that had been disaffected from the Church of England.
You know, there was a there was sort of political influence in the church
and some residual influence of Catholicism, which you know, which was the Church
of England was formed out of the government seizure of all the Catholic cathedrals and
churches and say you're no longer, this is no longer a Catholic church.
This is the Church of England. So there was a lot of carreo of
Catholicism in that in that process, and the Pilgrims didn't like that. These
were these were god fearing people who wanted to live their lives according to the
Bible as they understood it, and it was that that motivated them to ultimately
come to the New World. They had to flee Great Britain and they went
to Holland for about eleven years because they were being persecuted in England, and
so they settled in Holland. But then they were worried about their kids that
were growing up because you know, Holland was, you know, kind of
a liberal, socially liberal place, and so they felt, you know,
they really wanted They'd heard about the success, the final success of the sixteen
seven sixteen oh nine colony in Jamestown, and then they heard that they could
get a charter to go to the New World, that is to say,
they could get sponsorship and investors to buy a ship and enable them to get
there, and they chose to do it. So so it was that they
acquired the Mayfelour Mayflower was their ship was a ninety four foot ship, a
very questionable seaworthiness, and were not for their faith and determination to find freedom
of conscience and live according to their biblical police. There probably would never have
been a July High Fourth or Independence Day or subsequent American holidays, because it
was really they really created the foundation for what happened in America, much more
so than Jamestown. Jamestown was a colony of all men. So if you
have all men, there's no procreation, there's no longevity to that colony.
But the Pilgrims came over as families with children, and they were committed to
the Christian family life. So they had a harrying passage across the Atlantic,
you know, one in which they were in one gale where there was broadside
batterings by gail force wind so ferocious that the seas caused a splitting of the
ship's main beam. Well you know, it's the main beam going right down
the middle of the ship, and it split. And luckily among the Pilgrims
was a builder who had brought along a what's known as a house jack that
would help jack up heavy beams for like, you know, the top beam
of a one story structure or the floor of a two story structure. And
they quickly grabbed that house jack and got it under the crack beam and raised
it up, you know, all the men shoulders, shoulders cranked that thing
and got it all the way back up into place. That that that house
jack stayed in place for the rest of the voyage because it was holding the
ship together. So that just gives you an idea of what they went through.
But when they the problem was that they the territory they were given was
in the Virginia Colony, which was the north part of the Virginia Colony,
which was the northern part of which was really at the mouth of the Hudson
River, so it would have been in New Jersey that they were supposed to
go to. But the bad weather, the storms blew them off course.
They couldn't go against the currents around Cape Cod, so they ended up deciding
that they were going to try to find, you know, fertile land and
water and settle in mass Chusetts. But they, of course they didn't know
where they where they were or or where they were going. And it turns
out that the non Tilgrims, because the Mayflower had one hundred and two passengers,
about three fifths of them were were Christian Pilgrims, if you will,
and the balance were crewmen, some craftsmen like John Alden who was a cooper,
Miles Standish who was a military leader protected who was hired to protect the
you know, the Pilgrims. And so the the non Christians were very anxious
when they were thrown off course and their food was running out and spoiling,
and they were and they were kind of they were they were on the verge
of mutiny. And so the Pilgrim leaders decided, hey, we need we've
got to stay together. We're going into territory that we don't know what we're
going to encounter. We need to write up a compact where we keep watch
each other's back and we make all decisions about the welfare of the community together
in a democratic fashion. We vote on everything. Transparency in voting was really
the essence of the Mayflower Compact. All the men signed it. It sort
of quelled that rebellion. They settled in Plymouth, Massachusetts, both the believers,
the Pilgrims and the non believers. They settled and lived communally. So
there was that Mayflower Compact. So the first point is that they had a
spiritual quest. The second that's unique about the Pilgrims. The second thing that
was unique about the Pilgrims was that they agreed to form a pack. The
Mayflower Compact was really in some ways it laid the cornerstone of the US Constitution,
which would be drafted you know, one hundred and seventy years later,
right, yeah, so, well, you know, Scott, Scott.
It also points out that for that compact to work, the elections had to
be, as you said, transparent, so everybody knew where everybody stood,
and there was no hmning or haueing or hedging on that particular election. Correct,
that's right, Yeah, all right, so please, So I'll tell
you. I'll tell you a cute story about the ship itself. The ship
they acquired was a used ship, and it was a ship that was used.
It was a merchants shoes that was used for transportation of wine and port
between you know, the wine growing territories of France and Spain and England and
that. So the ship had a sweet smell from all the decks of the
ship, and there were only three decks being slashed and disinfected with you know,
with wine that had come out of broken barrels in the storms, you
know, the barrels break and the wine would slash through the whole boat.
So it had a sweet smell and it's believed that it disinfected the whole ship
and lo and behold, no one died on that ship a crossing the Atlantic.
So it's kind of an interesting story. So anyway, they arrived,
They finally arrived after the Mayflower Compact. They arrived in Plymouth, Massachusetts,
and God would have it that there were two Indians there attached to the the
tribe there who could speak broken English, Squanto and Samoset, and that really
enabled the Pilgrims to communicate with the authorities, you know, like Massasoyat who
was the chief, the chief Soakham of the Wampanoaic tribe. And so the
second the third thing, So the second thing is the foundation for self government
may felcom. The third thing that the that the Pilgrims accomplished that no one
else did, was they sign a lasting peace treaty with Massasoya And this was
you know, a major achievement and it lasted fifty years where they lived in
harmony and peace. And then go moving on to the to the to the
fourth thing that was accomplished, which is more tied to the actual Thanksgiving fees.
You see, they were told by the Virginia Company how to do things.
And one of the things they said, you when you you know,
when you grow things, you're going to live communally and you're going to share
the harvest equally. And so that's what they did. They were told to
do that. They follow the directions from the Virginia Company management. And so
they they grew all the food communally, no private plots, but all communally.
And of course what happened there was that didn't work out too well.
You know that the yields from their communal harvesting were not that great. As
a matter of fact, William Bradford recorded in his memoirs that while quote slackers
showed up late for work, everybody was happy to claim their equals share and
production direction, which the and the production only shrank because you know, not
everyone really it's communal. Probably no one really cares about. It's the fable
of the grasshopper in the ant, isn't it. That's right, That's right.
So what happened was down their first Thanksgiving. So now we're in the
Thanksgiving story. This is their first harvest, and it was a meager harvest
because of the collective farming. The output was really meager because it was their
first year and they're learning about the different crops on how to do it.
And it was really the Indians that helped them. But they when they decided
that they wanted to give thanks to God after their first harvest, they also
wanted to include the Indians, the Wampanog, the Massasoy and his Indians.
And they're only about at this point because because the first winner was so brutal,
they lost almost half the the uh, the pilgrims. It was very
you know, it's really really sad what happened. The first winner was devastating
and half the pilgrims died, including four entire families of pilgrims died that first
winter. So so that first so they that that first Thanksgiving was a matter
of giving thanks that those who survived had survived. Even though the harvest was
meager, they wanted to give thanks for it, and they invited the Indians
to come in and they assumed that, well, there's only forty of us.
Now we've lost twenty people and the you know, you know, through
the first winter that mass Sud's not going to bring probably about about as many.
Well mass SuDS showed up with over one hundred one hundred Indians, and
the good news was that they brought a lot of food five deer, you
know, foul fish. I mean, they brought enough food for a three
day feast. So the first Thanksgiving was a three day feast with the Indians,
and they not only gave thanks but they had a bit of a celebration
and punctuated by Indian song and games and dance and pilgrim prayers and even a
military parade by Miles Standish. That's great, all right, So yeah,
get to the fifth tenant of okay story. The fourth tenant comes out of
that meager harvest because they decided to follow the same pattern for the next year.
So the second season was also meager harvest. And it was at that
point that William Bradford Governor Bradford just in u quoting him, he said,
the system of collective farming was found to breach such confusion and discontent and retard
much employment that would have been to their benefit and comfort. So in sixteen
twenty three he abandoned that, he scrapped the socialist farming, and he parceled
out the land gave private plots to all the family and they became much more
productive thereafter. So that was the fourth thing. And the last thing was
that distinguished the Pilgrims was that they were very oriented not just around sacrifice,
but service and taking care of other people. Massassiliot fell ill and was on
his deathbed, and the Pilgrims heard about it, and senior Pilgrim helder Edwin
Wislow, who was gifted with natural herbs and natural medicines as well as being
a pastor, one of the senior elders, he went, he took a
forty mine i'll trip to to find Massassoia. Whereupon he you know, he
administered medicinal broths and natural herves and prayers and astonishingly mess made made a full
recovery. Was been dazed, and he remarked, he remarked to Wednesday.
So now I see the English are my friends and love me, and whilst
I live, I will never forget the kindness they have showed me. So
that's the fifth point was that the story of the Pilgrims is one of taking
care of other people, love and service to others, and so it's it's
a it's an amazing story that goes way beyond just the feast of thanks.
Yeah, there's there's a reason I love that holiday. And there are five
more reasons I love it even more. Scott Powell, Thank you, Rediscovering
America. Get the book. It's a great Christmas gift if you haven't done
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have a blessing Thanksgiving. Thank you so much. It's the nightcap Scott
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We's much younger than I am, but old as in we started talking.
Geez must have been four or five years ago at least and has been
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hats, among them recently a new dad, which I'm sure is the one
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he and I talked about this and it was going to be a book about
something else entirely about two or three years ago, and he changed direction,
and finally it is released. The author of America's Last Stand, Will You
Vote to Save or Destroy America? In twenty twenty four, Drew Thomas Allen
Drew, how are you. I'm good. It's wonderful to be with my
good friend. Yeah, it's great to have you back again. And you
know you're on the side of this. We work for this public relations firm,
so you're hawking other people's books all the time. You get a chance
to actually talk about your own. Finally, Noah, what was the book
originally going to be? About well, it was a little bit broader in
scope, it was a little more academic. It was going to be called
American Renaissance, and it was about how we need to return to the founding
principles to save the country. And there's stuff that's in that that I can
repurpose. I'll use it for another book that will be important too. But
I just realized that this moment in history that we're in, facing the twenty
twenty four presidential election, it's an inflection point that has the gravity and weight
of the American Revolution and the Civil War. This is the third major test
we have faced, I believe sincerely, as a people, as a citizenry,
and it was incumbent upon me to write something to try and persuade as
many people as possible to one acknowledge the seriousnature of this situation, understand our
place and history and what we can do to defend the country. To rally
people around a book. You know, there's so much propaganda out there in
different sets of facts. Now we have a hard time communicating because we live
in different worlds. So this helps us get on the same page. And
of course this makes the definitive case to reject Biden or whatever Democrat they put
in there at the last minute and to reelect Donald Trump. You know,
in one of the chapters, for example, ask a very simple question.
And I appeal to all types of people in this book. It's not just
for conservatives. I hope that liberals, people that are waking up will read
this book or be given this book by somebody and say, hey, just
read this. Let's talk about this. You know, I'm not mean in
the book. You know I have the facts. But I asked the question.
Reagan he during that one and only debate with Jimmy Carter, he looked
into the camera and he said, are you better off today than you were
four years ago? And it was a resounding known and he was elected in
a landslide. Well, we have a unique situation here that even Reagan couldn't
couldn't say because he hadn't been president yet. We've lived under Trump, we've
lived under Bidom. Are you better off under bottom than you were under Trump?
It's that simple. The only people that are better off today than they
were three years ago at this point, Drew are lobbyists and some well placed,
high placed Democrats and the communist Chinese. They would answer that they are
way better off than they were under Donald Trump. So would say Vladimir Putin.
Remember all of the hullabulu about Trump, He's a Putin operative, He's
a Putin puppet who's been a Putin puppet more than the current president Joe Biden.
You know, everything that they told us about Donald Trump's presidency has come
to fruition under the Biden presidency and under the leadership of the Democrat Party in
the executive branch and in one branch of the legislature. And we have seen
how those lies have helped further take us down the road to our demise.
And when you you asked the question will you vote to save or destroy America?
A lot of people apparently have voted to destroy America because maybe that's what
they really want. It's it's hard to separate people that are stupid and people
that are just plain evil in this Yeah, yeah, you know, this
is a little bit off topic, but it's just something that I've been thinking
about. Obviously, you know, we've seen the left's control of the media
diminish. You know, they don't have a monopoly anymore, and arguably they're
far more options and conservative media now than there are on the liberal side.
The liberals, the left still owns you know, cable news. We still
have you know, Fox News, whether you like it or not anymore these
days. But we're actually at a little bit of a disadvantage, I would
say, because the the media on the left, those cable networks, heving,
they work lock steps with the Democrat Party to deliver messaging that is like
a sniper rifle, and we fire buckshot because you know, look, I
mean this not just because I'm your friend, but you're such a talent and
your messaging is so powerful. But there are a lot of selfish people on
our side that are looking for clickbait, and there are conspiracy theories that are
true. But we have people that are just competing for viewers and everything else
to an extent on our side, where we're not on the same page,
We're not focused. We're always distracted on different issues. And it's not that
some of them aren't important. But you know, the left has an advantage
because they really focus people's attention and control them. You know, we're not
looking to control, but I think it hurts us sometimes. No, and
you nailed it. There are many people in the media who just want the
glory for themselves and to get it any way they possibly can. When I
got into this business in nineteen eighty, I was a nineteen year old kid.
I got into it to meet girls and have fun and make a little
bit of a living doing something that I enjoyed. And at this point,
it's like, I feel like the messaging and the people that I bring to
the four really could make a difference in changing and saving this country. And
that's what I believe your book is all about, Drew. You know,
we were told that twenty sixteen was such a crucial election, and then twenty
twenty was such a crucial election. It's not that they weren't, but we
are. We are at the point where if it doesn't happen, if the
country does not turn around in the next election in November of next year,
it's completely gone. I agree, Yeah, those are the stakes. And
you know, you know I wrote this book, like you know, Thomas
Paine's Common Sense had a very specific purpose, which was to pay the American
people. I mean, well they were Americans, but the American colonists to
support the American revolution and their fight for freedom. And that's what this book
is in our time twenty twenty four, you know, addressing the same situation,
you know, at a different time, and trying to make those arguments
and persuasions. And look, my message in the book is not pessimistic though.
I mean, I say, you know, we're the patriots of twenty
four, just as Lincoln refer to the patriots of seventy six, you know,
the Founding fathers and American revolutionaries, George Washington. We are the patriots
of twenty four, and we have an opportunity to defend our nation. We
have a duty and obligation to do it. And so let's just accept that
it's hard. You know, I'm sorry that it's difficult. I'm sorry these
things are happening right now. I'm sure all of us would prefer to get
a better night's sleep and not have to worry. But it comes when it
comes, and we are capable of meeting the challenge. We just have to
accept it and dig deep, and we can lean on the memories, resurrect
the memories of our ancestors who have done the same thing. We can do
it. And so that's my message too, is I believe in the American
people, America's last stand will you vote to save or destroy America? In
twenty twenty four of the author Drew Thomas Allen, my friend, thank you
so much. How is the baby. The baby's amazing. About seven months
now, a little over seven months, and she's getting ready of crawl.
She's babbling and man, it's the joy of my life is being a father.
Yeah. The babbling is going to be even more fun when she starts
completing full sentences and demands things talking back. Yep, all right, buddy,
have a fantastic rest of the week and great success with this book.
Thank you, Gary, Jeff, you got it. Drew Allen with us
on the nightcap. Reverend Jim C. Hardin joins us next. There are
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for Tri State Men's Health, and I want you to know. For the
rest of this power, we joined Reverend James C. Harden, who's the
CEO of something called Compass Care. There are a set of pro life pregnancy
centers that pregnancy crisis centers that are you know, life focused to try and
help women keep their babies and not abort them. And he joined us just
before the vote on Issue one and joins us now in the aftermath. Reverend
Harden, it's great to have you back on the Nightcap. It's honored to
it's an honor to be here. Thanks for having me. You bet,
I wanted to talk about because people cite, you know, isolated incidents like
Eric Rudolph, for example, the guy who famously was convicted of bombing an
abortion center. The pro choice or the pro abortion side always claims that we
radicals on the writers so violent, you know that, you know how we're
such hipoc rits. Went In fact, uh, the fire bombings and and
the violence against pregnancy centers like the ones that you represent are the victims of
the most violent kind of crime. And it doesn't surprise me because you know,
if abortion is the culture of death, then they certainly have no problem
with violence against living people. Your thoughts, Yeah, you're exactly right.
The fact of the matter is a year ago, in front of under Oath,
in front of the Center Homeland Security Committee, Christopher Ray, the director
be FBI, was asked by Senator Rick Scott of Florida about the FBI,
the parent abdication of their duty to investigate this violence against pro life entity that
you're describing, like like the fire bombing of Compass Cares Buffal office, which
was mentioned at this Home Security Committee hearing. And Ray responded, and he
intentionally engaged. I believe in misdirection by fabricating a comparative percentage of investigations split
between pro life and pro abortion violence, which implies, of course, that
there's violence emitting from the pro life movement. That that it's a lie.
And I said, under oath, this, Christopher Ray, under oath lied
by perpetrating this, this, this, this false percentage. And he said
this, this is this is a quote from him, he said, when
he was asked about it, he said, well, probably in the neighborhood
of seventy percent of our abortion related violence cases or threats are where the victims
are pro life organizations. But when I when I heard that, I was
I just I mean, my Paul went to my head and I was like,
man, this is a smoke screen designed to make it appear that the
FBI's investigative resources are being deployed in an impartial manner, which they're not.
I mean, the the a truly you know, kind of honest FBI director
would have would have would have said something very different, because what he did
was he padded those numbers. I did the math, went back back in
back last year. I did the math, and he padded those numbers in
terms of abortion related crimes with twenty six trumped up indictments of closed cases of
peaceful pro life people under the pretense of Face Act violations. This is like
Mark Hawk, for example, and they did a rash of the DJ did
a rash of arrests, essentially conflating all these peaceful protests from pro lifers with
with with with the violence being perpetrated against pro life entities like Compass Care.
And there was ninety nine cases that I found. Seventy three of them were
actual violence against premiancy centers, and the remainder were these peaceful pro lifers that
were made to look like violent aggressors by the FBI. As a matter of
fact, So if no honestaff the director was said something like, well,
nearly one hundred percent of all abortion related violence is against proecte organizations, that's
what he should have said, but he didn't. Why because he wants to
promote a narrative along with Merrick Garland, his boss, and Joe Biden,
his boss, that that there is this evil, violent pro life community out
there seemed to destroy people, which is absolutely counterintuitive because pro life people are
the ones that believe that all people are made in the names of God and
therefore equally valuable deserving a protection. True pro life people don't go around,
you know, killing people. And the abortion industry, by the way,
is the most violent industry on the face of the planet. With that's what
they do for a living. Yeah, that's that's how they make their money.
That's what they do for a living. That's what they live for,
is to kill people. And you know, I was looking at the actual
numbers of of support, the monetary donations, the financial contributions that led to
Issue once passage in Ohio, and there was a local news or here highlighting
that the Cincinnati Arts Diocese spent one point seven million dollars to vote no on
Issue one, and the arch Diocese of Cleveland spent another million dollars. And
just awful how these religious institutions were spending money to tell people to vote no
on Issue one. Fifty eight million dollars was spent on the pro on the
Yes issue one side. Fifty million of that came from out of the state
of Ohio. So it's fifty so we are our continarian versus tenion. Yeah,
all right, Our constitution was changed in the state of Ohio by outside
people outside the state of Ohio. What could be their possible motivation? Follow
the money, That's what I say. The abortion industry gets pro abortion politicians
reelected. If people think that for abortion politicians care about women, or care
about reproductive choice, will care about access to medical care, think again,
what they care about is getting power. They want to get and maintain power,
and the abortion industry does that for them. I mean being outspent five
to one or almost six to one, you know, in terms of dollars,
and a lot of that coming from New York State. I apologize because
I'm sitting in New York State right now. You know, is how they
get How they get these things past. They drum up their base by by
promoting propaganda and lives they're saying. And with these with the fifty eight million
dollars, they got people so so ginned up with fear because they were telling
them that, Oh, if Republicans have their way, they're going to you
know, you know, bar women from getting contraception. They're going to let
women die in the operating table for miscarriages. They're going to send women to
jail for getting abortions. These are the kinds of lives that they propagate.
Of course, nobody says this, and nobody nobody, nobody's trying to accomplish
these things. But they say as if it's true, and uh, we
need to refute, not not just refute the propaganda and the lies with it,
we need to refute refute it with the truth. The truth is that
a Democrat pro abortion democrat has never met an abortion they don't love. And
people's in the pudding. Just look at Issue one in Ohio. It's abortion
for all my months of pregnancy. Yeah, and reverend, I'm sorry,
our time's up. Give give your website out for your group real quickly.
Yeah, go to Compasscare Community dot com. It's Compasscarecommunity dot com. Reverend
James Harden from Compass Care with us. And this is an issue that is
not going away anytime soon. Seven hundred w l W. I'm seven hundred
w l W always a pleasure. L Yeah, okay, it's always a
pleasure to have our next guest is a regular contributor, and I couldn't do
the show without him. I really couldn't. There's there's no way, there's
no way why that anybody could replace the fur ball and even and I know
why you do this, You're trying to set me up kill even get it
by now, I do. Even in the midst of the chaos of everyday
life, he is always a steady rock, someone you know you can always
count on to be there when needed and coming to my rescue once again tonight
to save the program, the one and the only Andy Fern. How old
did I appreciate? Look, I'm doing well. I mean basically, I'm
here because I have nothing better to do. But it's okay, No,
I appreciate it, appreciate the opportunity to vent the times that to have this
little forum with you once a week on the big one, which is great.
And I just realized, you know, it's a pretty creative name that
you got for the shows, the Nightcap, because basically during the day you
kind of at times double dip as a you know, a guy who serves
cocktails to people so that night kept. I like that. I like it
a lot. Well, I am the king of branding, there's no questions
and ruler of nothing. So I wanted to ask you said something very interesting
there at the beginning, and it was about how you you have nothing better
to do, if you had, if you had, if you had something
better to do, what would be better to do than talking with me?
And I want you to come up with an answer. I don't want to
say, Oh no, I was kidding. I didn't mean anything. Nothing
would be better than talking to you Gary, Jeff, I don't want to
hear that garbage. Andy. What would be better than talking to me?
Right now? Andy? Getting in my cargo over a white castles, getting
a sack of white castles, baby and some onion chips. Perhaps I don't
know, so I rate I rate below fast food, oh big time?
Oh yes, what else any fast food? Going to the Cytuni Athletic Club
and taking a Schwitz, which is going in the steam room, relaxing and
maybe taking a shave there as well. I enjoyed that, I really do
taking a shave. What what what do you? I heard this fitz you
said after the Fitz you're going to take a shave. You're you're in the
steam room. I mean you shave yourself, don't you? Or someone coming
shaving? Yes? Of course I do myself, Yes, shave myself.
And where would you shave yourself? Then about in the steam room? You
could do that? You just know where on your body would you be shaving?
Is this like shave? You talking about? Uh? The regular?
Oh okay, I mean I thought maybe you were getting ready for you for
your only fans page, maybe getting yourself balded up a little bit, if
you know what I mean. Yeah, let's move on to something better.
So you're frustrated by you're frustrated by Bengals fans or by the team, Mandy,
you know, I'm frustrated by the fans because they turned They're like,
it's like a snake, they turn on you like, and I'm hearing stories.
I'm hearing various talk show hosts on radio. Not to mention the names,
because I'm out here to start a war. That's not me. I'm
not that way. But I listen and digest, and I listen what they
have to say. And now they're saying, lou Anon, rumo, here's
the guy room with the coach the next six teams in the NFL. Look
at his defense? Are you kidding me? I mean, one game,
It's amazing how they turn on people and look, is it the coach's fault?
Is it the player's faul? Lack of personnel? Yeah, and then
it's Sam Hubbard, I mean, Hendrickson's heard. I get it. I
mean, and it's somewhat embarrassing that a team like the Houston Texans really poor
as far as running the football. What they did. They ran rough shots
over the Bengals on Sunday. But maybe that happens at times. Maybe that's
just the way it is. I saw what Buffalo did on Monday night.
They stuck up the joints as well. But you know, when you talk
about great defensive coordinators and they put the statue up already at Paul Brown Stadium
or Bay Horse Dating, whatever you want to call it, they put the
statue or flow on a rumo. What have happened to dick lebou? How
quickly we forget? How quickly we forget dick Lebau. I got a memory
like a tank. I don't forget great players and great coaches, and Dick
Lebou is one of them. And speaking of great coaches, how quickly they're
forgetting in New England with Bill Belichick has accomplished because now the rumors are that
they may want them to step down. Oh my goodness, really I want
to work for that guy. Robert Kramp if he paid me a brings truck
full of money is humiliating Bill Belichick in public as well. How is he
humiliating him? I haven't seen that. Now he's saying that we're not good.
We may have to make a change. Maybe the team has been tuned
out by Bill Belichick. The guy is the greatest coach ever, the national
football is ever. We all we all come to the end of our usefulness.
Andy Bill Belichick may have got to that fork in the road where it's
you know, it's time to say Cyinario and Syonara, super Bowls, all
these wonderful, wonderful, deserving laudits that he has earned, he has earned
and been given over the course of his career. But maybe it's time to
go. I don't think it's gonna tell you what. Honestly, he's not
gonna go because he was twenty one wins. Shy of the old time win
Walker three twenty one of coach Don Shula, delay Don Shula, the Miami
Doglas, and he's not going to go until he breaks that redk if that's
number one, and I think he's at the end of the rope. It's
not that goes to him. It's because this guy mac Jones can't play the
position of quarterback. That's why he said at the end of the rope.
But I will tell you this much. Should he step down, and I
hopefully it don't fire him, hoping they give the respect of let him to
just walk away, Believe me, he'll get gobbled up by teams like the
Los Angeles Chargers or others. Believe me. Well, you mentioned the Buffalo
Bills and that disaster, and that that is a disaster, that that is
a house fire, that is you know, spreading to other houses in the
neighborhood. And it all revolves around the multimillion the multimillion dollar turnover man,
Josh Allen. That guy cannot keep hold of the ball. I mean,
he may be amazingly talented at one stroke and he's he's shown those signs before,
but he is an amazingly just a beleaguered well person when it comes to
look to take him care of the football. Yeah, he's a turnover machine.
He's dangerous with his feet. But look, I'm one of the few
people. I'm not gonna pat myself with a battlers who listens to me anyway.
You know, no one ever did, no one ever will. But
I knew this for a fact that you cannot win a National Football League with
an unbalanced offense. And they never had a running game. They never did,
and to some extent it's showing its ugly face now with the Cincinnati Bengals.
You have to have a compatible running game with the passing game, not
a fifty to fifty offense, maybe sixty forty. And they don't have that.
They don't. They're relying on the passing game with Joe Burrow. When
I get it, it's a great, great passer threading the needle. But
it just can't be Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. You're not going to win
with just two guys. Everybody has to be involved in the offense. Yeah,
and it's not unless it's any Bengals. If Tyler Boyd ever wanted to
be a primary receiver in this league, he may have proven why he is
not on Sunday. Just well, he also proved that he can't be a
waiter in Jeff Ruby's restaurant because he probably would drop the trays. Blieve me,
you've got some bad hands, right well, I mean he certainly did
on Sunday totally catchable balls. And you know, not just the drop touchdown
pass that would have been a touchdown and probably given the Bengals the game,
but to at least two other blatant, blaring occasions where the ball was perfectly
delivered by Burrow and Boyd just couldn't come up with it. Well, look,
far be it for me to really rag on the guy, because the
next catch im make in the National Football League will be my first. I
never was there, I never played the game, so it's very difficult for
me to say should he should he not have. But as a viewer,
as a spectator, as a consumer of the sport I'm watching that, I
watched replays, he should have caught it. I mean, the guy's a
pro. He should have caught it. I believe he probably not. Out
of ten times he would have caught that. For whatever the reason did he
stopped short. He pulled his hands into soon I don't know. Maybe he
heard footsteps behind him. I can't explain why why he didn't catch it.
But the thing that really bothered me more than anything else after the game,
they refused to talk to the reporters. It wasn't his fault. They lost.
The game was a combination of many things. His myth, his drop
was one factor of why they possibly lost the game. But he didn't lose
it because of him. He asked for him to sit there at his locker
and not show up or talk to the media. That's pretty weak. Hey,
Andy Furmer, let's talk about the bright spot on the other side of
the line there in that game Sunday. CJ. Stroud is for real?
Yeah, oh my goodness. You know, not only is his name being
tossed out as Rookie of the Year Offensive Rookie of the Year, his name
right now is being tossed out as MVP. Bit about that. His name
should be in the conversation for MVP. What do you do with that ball
club? They're five and four. No one expected that team do in five
games this year with a new coach, and what they did last year,
well, I mean tremendous. Look I get it. There wasn't that much
pressure on them. But right now, if the NFL with the end today,
they're a playoff team and the Bengals aren't, no doubt about it,
no doubt a wildcard. So you were mentioning that you had some technical problems
at your home studio on Sunday and uh oh man, and then you pegged
it to a possible power surge in your neighborhood there. Yeah, you know,
it's funny. I will tell you this much. It's the second power
search I've had, like in two months, and they came early Sunday morning
and it just goes out for like a second. The lights go out to
go right back on again. So when I came back on, when they
came back on, I lost my internet connection and that was the end of
that. As far as my show on Fox Sports Radio, which you can
hear on Sunday mornings on Serious XM channel eighty three, Yeah, enterteen sixty
am in Cincinnatis, unless the power serve happens and then nobody can hear anything,
or or unless you're in Columbus and they replace your program with religious programming.
Do you think that's not true? Because I have I have a co
host Bucky Brooks, who played in the NFL. He was still talking.
Oh, I mean the show goes on, you know, just you as
a co host cannot be heard. I was dead by wires, just shot.
No internet, so for me, it was no internet connection. Well,
it seems rather strange. It seems rather strange that no one else is
talking about these just random fantom power surges. Do you think that's not true?
My next door neighbor I checked it for I got off the ara of
some days. But it's and she had a power surge. All right,
neighborhood. Do you think it's it's pro hamas terrorist Andy targeting you? No,
I did not, but I will pay you this much. I want
to commend the great people at all Fiber because I called my guys at Alta
Fiber and they were at my house at two o'clock that afternoon on a Sunday.
Think about that. That's unreal. And they and they told me that
hey, there has nothing to do. You did nothing to cause this.
And as they entered my home they told me they saw an Alti Fiber truck
down the street. So it must have been something that affected the own electric
which I have own electric and own electric be I guess the own electric tank,
whatever the heck it is, was hit by the surge and that's why
everything went dark for a second, and Alta Fiber was here. I fixed
it and I'm good to go. Now. Let me let me ask you
don't worry about me that much? Please? No, Yeah, you know
I am. I am a full supporter of Israel and Jews. So and
I'm I'm proud to say that I'm not I want to go down that road.
I don't want to go down that road. I really don't. Well,
I can't even watch the news anymore. You didn't. You didn't go
down that road. I did. And I'm a proud supporter of Israel and
Jewish people everywhere, Andy and I, and I'm not afraid to s I'm
going to go one step further. I'm a proud supporter of everybody. I
love everybody. I don't have hate in my system to us, there's certain
people. I mean it may sound that way when I talk sports, because
you know, I hate when my team loses the team that I root for.
But it's not a visual it's not a vicious hate. It's not a
hatred that I want to kill. So I don't understand the whole situation.
While one individual from one race or religion or nationality can hate another one,
I don't understand. Why why you you don't? I know? I do
not hate anyone. I don't hate any specific race because there's only one race,
There's the human race. And I don't care who instills that, who
instills that to somebody to make somebody hey, I'll give you another paper.
I have never seen the country, this country in such a worse state than
I have over the last several years. I'll give you an example. I
was watching the news, I think it was last night. Got a lunatic
up there in Westchester and he if forty three year old gentleman didn't didn't catch
the name. He's throwing nails on I seventy five to give people flats?
Are you kidding me? What? What would make you want to have the
urge to do that? They caught the guy, They said he was doing
it back in May, and they finally caught What would make you want to
do that? Really? You go door to door and give away food to
people that need food or shirt or clothing this time of year. Sure,
and they shouldn't even arrest him or give me He should be gone to an
institution or give away or give away nails to people door to door so they
can go do its bidding, does Jeorge? You know? But I'm saying
that they could probably arrest him and he'll be back on the street in six
months, three months, whatever it may be. Not arrest the guy,
he should be in a mental institution because the normal person doesn't do things like
that. And then I heard another story. This was recently, may have
heard this one. Somebody dropped the bowling ball from a bridge into someone's car
the front windshield and killed somebody. Oh yeah, why why? And who?
What would give? People? There are all kinds of crazy people out
there. You just happened to be one of them. Andy, I would
never I mean, you know, you called me crazy at something. I
would never even oh no, no, do something like that. There are
different there are different levels of crazy. Andy, You're you're at a friendly
crazy. That's danger crazy. You're not danger crazy. You're you're you're friendly
crazy. We I mean, I've done crazy things, you're you know in
my promotional background, but it didn't hurt anybody, made people laugh, If
anything, at that fire when they did backfire myself. You're Andy, You're
You're Andy, the friendly fur Ball, and I'm so glad to call you
my friend. And thanks for being on the show. We got to go.
Oh boy, I gotta wait another seven days. Huh yeah, I'll
be back all right, Thank you so much. Take care brother, And
that's the that's the fur ball right there on the night cap on seven hundred
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They say imitation is the greatest form of flattery, but imitations might not be
so great when it comes to your health. Putting the wraps on his cap
with one of our favorites, a guy who is still trying to convince me
to do the cold Plunge, which I haven't yet. Maybe he's got a
portable pool he can pack me in with some ice to shock my system.
He has an interesting to say the least takes on wellness and training, and
he is absolutely one of the pre eminent ones in the business, at least
locally and soon to be nationally across the country. In fact, he is
traveling across the country all the time for spartan races where he helps people recover
from the incredible pounding they put themselves through with some of these competitions. He
is the one and only, as I call him, the first Dawn of
fitness. Rocco Costelano trained with Roco dot com, the man behind Rosanna Wellness,
and he joins us as our guest on this nightcap as we close out,
Roco, how are we man? Hey? Gary Jeff? Hey,
you know what I do? Have a portable I could bring one, you
know, right up to the studio whenever you want. I can pull water
in it and we can put ice, and we can we can do Gary
Jeff Walker co plunging live on the radio. If you are up to oh,
I've got actually two different or or you or you know what we what
we might do not that we might we might not do that too, Rocko.
Is what I'm thinking, Well, it's always a thought. Yes,
it's it's a thought that I seldom have, but you obviously have entertained in
your mind hundreds of times. Uh so, absolutely so I wanted to get
to you just kind of off the fitness subject just for a moment, But
it is. It does have to do with parental fitness and mental fitness,
and and it relates to kids, specifically your kids. You've got a boy
and a girl and they were enrolled in a pretty pretty nice price, supposedly
nice private school, but you had to pull them out. Can you go
through the story of what happened with your children at this this hoity toity private
school. You had the man, well, well, the hoity toy a
private school was it was called a Mercy Montessori. It's a Catholic a Montessori
school, and and I love other Montessori way of teaching, and so we
thought that that other Montessori away would be good. And so when we when
we came to Cincinnati, we decided that we wanted a more Christian based a
Montessori because we had done that Luma and and we thought that, oh,
okay, well let's go to a Catholic school where there wouldn't be any of
of the bs that we've seen in the public book schools and the now private
schools. So we go there and we and we love the school. We
really like everything that that the school are represented on the surface, right,
and that's a that's a big that's a big a distinction because on the surface,
everything looks wonderful. But then all of a sudden, we I started
noticing different things like that they have a Catholic school has a diversity equity,
inclusion and belonging uh director and then also also a committee. And so I
was like, well, a diversity. You know, if it's if it's
a real diversity, that's a good thing. But if it's if it's a
diversity for diversity's sake, it's not a good thing, right, And so
so I wanted to look more into it. My business got got the best
of me a little bit, so I couldn't really dive into it. But
I definitely want a parents to start looking in to where they're sending their children.
That's that's why I'm even talking about it, because if the school does
not does not go with your core values or your values. You need to
pull them out. Yeah, what did you What did you find that was
objectionable to you and your family's values that your kids you felt like your kids
are being taught at this Mercy Montssori. Yeah, so objection It wasn't totally
objectionable, but I saw things that were just not right in the and in
what I thought that the Catholic faith was because I grew up in the Catholic
faith, right, and so, and then I became a more Christian and
and what I saw was they were leaning very very heavy onto the lgbt q
A community. And they were and and I'm not saying that we shouldn't tolerate
or be or allow people into into, you know, our community. I
just didn't think that everything should be in your face, right, I'm not
well, right, Roco? First, how old are your children? They're
eight and they're six. Okay, this is this is the point. Eight
and six year olds do not need to be exposed to every alternative lifestyle that
people define for themselves. They at that age, they just don't that this
is the problem, the sexualization of children, even by the teaching of acceptance
of lgbt Q I A E I E IO stuff is ridiculous. That's why
the drag queens, and that's why the drag queen's story hours you've heard about
in public libraries and in public schools are so reprehensible. But you figure it
a private Catholic or Christian school, this would not be an issue, and
yet you say it was well, and it was. And what got me
started on this whole thing was I got I got an email from a gym
teacher who who had a preferred pronouns in his in the email, and I
was very I was very shocked because no other there I got. I got
so many emails from the principal, from the kids, teachers and you know,
and everyone else in between, and I never saw any preferred gender pronouns
and that. And so I went and I emailed the principal and I asked
her to explain what I just saw and and and I screenshoted it. I
said it to her, and she she was very upfront, and she said
that the Sisters of Mercy, who who sponsor the the school UH wants wants
everyone to be accepting of the lgbt Q UH. You know, a community
and and we have to be very tolerant. And that's why they have the
a diverse that was the reason why they had the diversity, equity, inclusion
and belonging to a committee and and uh and a director. And I was
like, well, diversity is a big thing. Equity is another whole,
big, crazy thing that we could talk about, inclusion and belonging. It's
not just the lgbt Q. So when you start bringing that that into it,
and and I'm and I'm you know, I'm not homophobic. I'm not,
but I am gonna say that I do not believe in in a transgenderism.
I will never believe this. And you could call me transphobic or whatever
you want to call me. The thing is is that this has gone to
a level, uh that that is not acceptable, Absolutely not acceptable. I
would agree, I would agree with you wholeheartedly. Uh. There are only
two sexes. Okay, there's male and there's female. There's xx, there's
x Y, and you can't ever change that. So the delusion, the
delusion that you can change your gender because of the way you feel is total
crap. You know it, and I know it. They know it,
but they still promote it. Well, well, because there's a lot of
money. You know, it's a money grib. It's not even a you
know, uh, it's not something that science could even want to go after
because there is nothing uh in science that that says. And then and then
the idiots there will absolutely say, well, well you're not a biology.
Well you know what, you don't have to be, like the woman said,
you don't have to be a vet to know what a dog is,
right. And so so when when we've done, you know, when I
went to them and I I I explained what was happening. I'm asking And
here is where I had the actual problem is I asked, where does this
end? Okay, is a gender pronouns or? And I said, where
does it end? Will boys be allowed that identify as girls be allowed in
in girls' bathrooms? Are they going to be allowed to play on girls' teams?
And I never got the answer. I never got an answer from the
principle, they couldn't tell you definitively whether that's that was the case or not.
They couldn't say absolutely not, that's that's ludicrous, there's no way,
right, but they could. They couldn't tell you, So you pulled your
kids out your homeschool and your kids, right, I said, well,
yeah, well, if you're not gonna get if you can't give me a
definition or a defined line that you you will not cross, I can't allow
my children to be to go into a school where down the road they may
be having this type and and and people don't understand how dangerous this really is.
And they just say, well, you're you're you know, you're just
a conflating thing. You're making stuff up. It's no children should be exposed
to any of this. And to normalize it and to have have a six
year old asking me why why does that? Why does that boy address up
like a girl? And why does that girl want to be a man and
and try to go appear And here's something that I really want to address when
it comes to this, And Joe Rogan said this on a on a podcast.
He asked his guest and and this is the defining thing. If you
are a girl, right, if you feel like you're a girl, why
then do you need to take hormones in order to be that gender? Right?
Why? Because if, if, and if you believe in God,
and this is something that that's very relevant here with a Catholic school. If
you believe in God, you then believe that God doesn't make mistakes. So
now you're telling me that God now makes mistakes, and I'm going to tell
you that that as as a Christian, he doesn't. So when you're trying
to push back on me, there is no way that that's going to happen.
So raku, I gotta I gotta know, I gotta know. How
is the homeschooling going so far? Oh? I got to tell you something.
It's literally the greatest thing. And well, after this, you know,
after this interview, I'm going to be working with my son and my
daughter. Actually, I feel that more parents should really think and not be
selfish. I think that sending your kids to priorate to to school and and
I just I just found this out. I'm a newbie in the in this
whole thing, but I feel like it's selfish sending your your children to have
somebody else teach it so that you're not you're not so called burden. I
want to tell you something. I want to be burdened now. I want
that burden of and that responsibility of teaching my son and my daughter. I
teach math, I teach science, I teach uh, like a bunch of
the language arts like reading, comprehension and and all that, because I'm a
good writer, but so so I feel, and I'd noticed that there was
a lot of gaps. Now, even though a mercy Mom sorry is a
so called good school, I found gaps, and I found those gaps.
I was. I was a little horrified and appalled. But I now know,
well I can sell them. You know, I can fix those gays.
I can literally fill fill those gays. I could fix them. And
and I had way more one on one time with my children, and now
I'm I'm I'm now responsible for the education of my child. Plus you know
exactly what your kids are being taught. Roco Costelano, it's a pleasure to
have you on any program. Have a fantastic Thanksgiving. I know you're you're
probably taking a trip. I hope you're all safe and have a great time,
and we'll talk to you when you get back. How about that.
Thank you, Gary, Jeff, You're always You're always awesome man. Thank
you. All right, take care. We'll be back to close this nightcap
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