1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Hellllo, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to the five hundred and seventeenth episode 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,519 of the Geek First Podcast. I'm the clown Prince of Red Trust. Now 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,679 I'm joined by I'm the organic mechanic Crickle Patzer. I'm the abundant Delmas. 4 00:00:16,719 --> 00:00:20,039 Yes we are here. I'd probably not guessed by those names, but hopefully 5 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,160 you clicked on this episode because you saw a furiosa. Suppose I guess i'll 6 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:27,320 edit after I should say FROs that Mad Max story for that, you know, 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,120 se o glorious, SEO, gotta get that going on. But doing 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,840 that or it's a saga, right, Mad Max saga? Is that? 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,759 What a Mad Max saga? Yeah, you're right. It's also stupid. 10 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:38,920 I get why they do it, but you know, like, come on 11 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:42,320 now, Mad Max story, saga chapter. We're gonna see it. If 12 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:44,240 they don't have that title, people are gonna see it. Be like this 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,000 is like Mad Max. This is kind of like that Mad Max movie. 14 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:52,640 What is the definition of a saga? That's a good question, just a 15 00:00:52,679 --> 00:00:58,840 collection of so I'm I'm sure probably most franchises are saga. But I to 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,079 me, a saga is like lower the rings where it's spanning multiple decades. 17 00:01:03,719 --> 00:01:08,719 I almost think it's like chronicles, right, what's chronicles? Then? Yeah, 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,239 a long involved story. Okay, so I thought it was like an 19 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:15,799 actual number, but maybe not. It's just as long evolved story, long 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,560 story about past, long story, and that would make sense. I guess 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,000 this movie, the first one came out in like the eighties, right, 22 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:23,799 or it was the eighties, so that makes sense. It's it's just not 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,159 the way I think of it. And I guess maybe you can call it 24 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,480 that now is because it's like the first time, you know what it counts. 25 00:01:30,599 --> 00:01:33,480 I don't think it's in the title, but it's the first time it's 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,400 a character that's not Max as the main character as well, So that's kind 27 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:40,079 of a thing too, where it's like it's spreading out past our main character. 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,120 So I guess so this show and then a chronicle is a record of 29 00:01:45,159 --> 00:01:48,120 things that happened. Since we're on the topic, I have to drop that 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,359 out. Okay, that could be, well, the Chronicles of Narnia. 31 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:52,519 That doesn't make sense at all because that's not real, right, No, 32 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:56,159 what did but what did you say? Was the definition again? A factual, 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,719 written account of important or historical events in the order the frame of Narnia. 34 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:04,040 Is it like someone telling a story I can't remember. I can't remember 35 00:02:04,079 --> 00:02:06,879 either. I think I feel like it could be someone like opens a book 36 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:10,400 and tell Yeah, yeah, it sounds right, and like you said, 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,360 factual, but it's like that's factual in the movie world, right, you 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,360 know, Like Lord of the Rings isn't the Lord of the Ring, Like 39 00:02:16,439 --> 00:02:21,360 there's that's there's not the Lord of any chronicle the Chronicle of the Rings. 40 00:02:21,479 --> 00:02:23,599 Yeah, Chronicle of the Lord of the Rings. Of the Chronicle the Rings 41 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:27,800 has a ring to it. I gotta say, maybe that's what they're going 42 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 to call the Golm one hunt for a Golm Chronicle of the Rings. You 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:38,000 know, so chronicles of Andy Serkis and team Yeah, but no transition. 44 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:43,560 Go on to feed. There's lots of stuff very Dylan trast centric this week. 45 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:46,560 Me and Dylan were on news. We're on Side Quest. We got 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,080 that going on. There's a big thing that draw up this week, Dylan. 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,520 It is in the for people that want to know what Dylan's talking about. 48 00:02:52,599 --> 00:02:55,919 The link is in the top in the description below. The thing that 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,240 I haven't talked about yet but is my game is out now. Oh, 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,960 it's out this week, Potion problem. Check it out. It's on Steam. 51 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,360 You can buy it for a me easley seven ninety nine US dollars. 52 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,599 That's not much, right, that's less than like a coffee. Now, 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:17,319 that's that's like a grande than coffee. Yeah, exactly, better, more 54 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,159 healthier than coffee as well, too, better for the mine, yes, 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,800 I hope. So it's an educational game, so yeah, teachers, you 56 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:31,120 gotta make coffee exactly different types the chronicles, how you can make oceans. 57 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Yeah, hey, that's a sequel. Someday, Tom, I guarantee you 58 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,800 the next five years, there's gonna be a game or movie from Geek. 59 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,319 First. It's gonna have the word chronicle in it and saga in it. 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,039 Oh you knows, Yeah, told the saga wait till we get it to 61 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,840 Adrenochrome four. But when it's not about Hunter, it's like the Hunter saga 62 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:55,240 and it's like about something else saga. Yeah exactly. So yeah, lots 63 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,360 of good stuff on the feeds right now on Patreon. The Alien retrostore already 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,560 was check out that. Uh, and yeah, there'll be some other retrostra 65 00:04:02,599 --> 00:04:05,439 out the years. And then another thing to promote. It's long time away. 66 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:10,319 But in case your new listener, geek firs Day is happening long weekend 67 00:04:10,319 --> 00:04:14,159 of August, we will be doing a stream that's gonna be about eight hours. 68 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:16,519 But if you up your tier or joeing Patreon, you will extend the 69 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,560 tier and we're gonna have a bunch of stretch goals. There's gonna be a 70 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,000 bunch of fun events. So go check that out. But that's a long 71 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,399 time away, so just shout that out now, and yeah, just rate, 72 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:30,839 review, subscribe if you want that free early episodes, exclusive episodes. 73 00:04:30,879 --> 00:04:33,879 Patreon is the best way to do it and support us because we are independent 74 00:04:34,079 --> 00:04:39,199 content creators. So we this the feeds and the Patreon. That's how we 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,399 do it. So we think each and every one of you. But let's 76 00:04:41,439 --> 00:04:46,319 get to it, because the night is not young here in old Northern Canada. 77 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,639 Right, We're no, no, we're not northern, where are we? 78 00:04:47,879 --> 00:04:51,399 So? Yeah, but we're not for the joke, so we don't 79 00:04:51,439 --> 00:04:56,959 want to be southern or west or west. Yeah, we're Western Canadians, 80 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,680 so and we don't look you don't understand the bit. Just to just adulton 81 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,480 over there making munches and feed the kids. You know, uh, Kirkham 82 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,399 Patser we and I guess last in the show as I transitioned into Kirkland. 83 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,839 We have reviewed every single Mad Max movie. Now we're about to do the 84 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 last the saga. Next week. We'll do like we differ apes when we'll 85 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,920 do a ranking where we'll rank the films ten characters, best scenes. So 86 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,639 you can't check on the feeds all four of those are there. They are 87 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,759 lots of fun and just tons of fun time about the filmmaking of these because 88 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:29,879 there are some crazy stories, especially those early ones of people just inches away 89 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:34,800 from dying but they managed to you know with hell so kirkhl Patzer, the 90 00:05:34,879 --> 00:05:41,160 Original war Boys, the original war Boys. Yeah, so what did you 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,759 feel about in a nonspoit way for Furiosa the fifth edition of the Mad Mat 92 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,800 Saga, like the way you phrased that. Yeah, No, this was 93 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:55,319 my first ever like theater experience of a Mad Max movie ever. You know, 94 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,040 Furio Road probably would have been the one that I would have been able 95 00:05:59,079 --> 00:06:00,920 to jump on the time, but I missed out on that. So this 96 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:06,600 is my first time seeing just this high octane world with high octane energy on 97 00:06:06,639 --> 00:06:10,560 the big screen, and I had a really fun time with it. I 98 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:15,000 think it was more than what I was expecting. I feel like I like 99 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:21,079 the character enough of Furiosa in Fury Road almost said road Warrior. I got 100 00:06:21,079 --> 00:06:25,079 all the Mad Maxes in my mind right now Thunderdome of the Fury Road. 101 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:30,399 But no, yeah, I feel like I wasn't super attached to that character, 102 00:06:30,439 --> 00:06:34,319 like I thought she was really interesting, especially the way that Charlie's portrayed 103 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:40,720 her, but to dive into her whole kind of prequel story I was. 104 00:06:41,959 --> 00:06:46,959 I wasn't like super super hype for other than it just having the high octane 105 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:49,800 action. But man, I really really like this character now after seeing just 106 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,720 the evolution the origin of it, And yeah, I just had a really 107 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:58,279 fun time following her journey here. I really liked our main villain as well, 108 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:00,560 Chris Hemsworth. I was looking forward to him from the trailers, and 109 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,639 I feel like I was just grinning every single time he was on screen. 110 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:08,680 And then it got like later on when I was maybe just a little bit 111 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,240 more fearful of the character, more so than just the wacky look that you 112 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,279 eventually get through. But no, yeah, I had a fun time with 113 00:07:16,319 --> 00:07:21,399 this one. I think it's a really good just story in this kind of 114 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:28,639 more modern Mad Max world. They they it's all it's all like the same 115 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,639 post apocalyptic world I guess, but just the specific universe that like started with 116 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:38,959 Fury Road. I feel like this is just another great yeah like story in 117 00:07:38,959 --> 00:07:43,800 that universe. So yeah, I thought it was really good and I'm excited 118 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:46,560 unpacked with you, guys, Dylan, there's lots of unpacked with you because 119 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,120 the viewers, including some of our selves, have not known your thoughts on 120 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,120 the Mad Max. I'm not saying that you had watched them, but it's 121 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,120 a it's a barren wasteland over there as far as your thoughts on the Mad 122 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Mats, So did your experience, Yeah, I've seen Fury Road. I 123 00:08:03,399 --> 00:08:05,639 think I watched it with you, Travis. Is that incorrect? I told 124 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,079 you to watch it. I think you might have watched my copy, but 125 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,160 I don't think you watched it with me. That was what it is. 126 00:08:11,639 --> 00:08:16,920 I have a very looked over Forest Ghost, Travis. I have a foggy 127 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:20,720 memory that's clearly so foggy. It's not even true that like not your last 128 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,120 place, but two houses ago that you lived in watching it there with you 129 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,519 good old bit. Maybe I just grabbed the DVD for me. I don't 130 00:08:26,519 --> 00:08:30,040 know, That's probably what happened. There's also a chance you could have just 131 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,279 come over and I was watching it there as well, because like Fury Road 132 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,399 used to be a good like, right if you're coming a podcast and you 133 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,919 came over and it's just on the TV and I'm just watching like that could 134 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,840 have happened as well too, So it's possible. I know I have seen 135 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,480 the whole movie, but I have very little memory of it, and I've 136 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,559 not seen any of the originals. And there you go. That's my history 137 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:52,159 facts. It's very very short and sweet. Going into this, I I 138 00:08:52,159 --> 00:08:58,360 guess I had very little expectations, But at the same time, I feel 139 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,120 like the trailers do really set up what the story is. For the most 140 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,200 part, I had a good time with this. I think I'm a little 141 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,320 bit mixed on it, and the things that I'm not mixed on the the 142 00:09:09,399 --> 00:09:13,559 visuals are a course fantastic, and the world of Man Max is really great. 143 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:18,639 One thing I was judging a lot and the trailers was just like the 144 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:22,440 color correction look really wacky. But I think in the theater it looked really 145 00:09:22,519 --> 00:09:26,919 good. And they also kind of differentiate it from like the past versus like 146 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,600 the present of this movie. There's like a slight different look to it, 147 00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,720 but I think both of them look good. I love the look of all 148 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:39,720 just the crazy trucks and vehicles and tech and all the weird characters and their 149 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,679 hilarious names are so fun. It's a world that I'm so unfamiliar with that 150 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,120 like a lot of that was really new to me, and I really enjoyed 151 00:09:46,159 --> 00:09:50,600 that. And so in terms of it being like a popcorn flick a good 152 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,399 time in the theater, it was that. I think where I the mixed 153 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,840 parts of it. I'm not really negative on anything, but I think for 154 00:09:56,919 --> 00:10:01,200 me, where this movie didn't quite that next tier is that to me, 155 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,039 it was kind of lacking the emotional side of things. It lacked like the 156 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:09,399 emotional core, never really tugged to my heartstrings in any way. And then 157 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,399 for a movie like this, like it doesn't need to, but in this 158 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:15,200 one, it's it is trying in a few ways, and I feel like 159 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,480 there's certain characters storylines that just didn't really work for me in that way. 160 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,120 And then the other thing is I don't think I was ever surprised once in 161 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,559 this movie. I feel like based on the trailers, I could have guessed 162 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,840 what the general plot was, and it's pretty much just that. And I 163 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,480 don't feel like we ever like took some corner, took some turn around a 164 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:39,840 corner, and there was something crazy and wow and unexpected there. It was 165 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:43,240 all kind of buy the books by the numbers. So so yeah, I 166 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,720 had a good time with it, but I guess it just didn't blow me 167 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,960 away. It didn't have the wow factor onto it, and I don't think 168 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:52,399 i'll ever I would be surprised if I ever watched this movie again in my 169 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,679 life. Like, I don't think I ever need to go back to it 170 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,000 for any particular reason. Maybe I YouTube one particular cool scene, but otherwise, 171 00:11:00,759 --> 00:11:01,639 yeah, I don't think it's gonna have much of an impact on me 172 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,440 in the long term, which I unfortunately I think is the case for Fury 173 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:07,440 Road because I have so little memory of it. I think it kind of 174 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,799 went in one year of the other, which is two bad because I feel 175 00:11:09,799 --> 00:11:13,559 like in theory, I like a lot of the stuff going on with this 176 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:16,960 world, but so far, two movies and it's not maybe not my cup 177 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,399 of Tea per se. Yeah, and don't go back to the uh the 178 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,200 other ones. I don't think those would be anymore of the cup of Tea. 179 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:28,080 Then there's there's just some it's very very very indie at some times and 180 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,679 some Yeah, yeah, you're not getting with Chris Hensworth's performance in those those 181 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,720 early ones. So uh yeah, No, I'm excited that you guys have 182 00:11:35,799 --> 00:11:39,919 a bit more mixed feelings on it or as high as me, because I 183 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,360 don't. I always hate these reviews, but I really don't really have anything 184 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:46,399 to negative to say. I got like one point and the rest is all 185 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,679 like aces like I got. I got nothing like everything from I know that 186 00:11:50,759 --> 00:11:54,879 was a big debate of oh something the CGI doesn't work in the trailers like 187 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,519 for me, once it's on the screen in the movies, it all has 188 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:03,440 this really type of different their worldly looks. Sometimes this in particular Fury Road, 189 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,679 because like Kirkle was talking about the first three, they're in a different 190 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:11,000 class of their own. The Fury Road is like a new code of paint 191 00:12:11,039 --> 00:12:13,120 per se, a code of chromat on it. It's a completely and that's 192 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,840 what I love, and that's why a few things that surprised me, is 193 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,360 the entire first act works. I'll wait until again the spoilers and the most 194 00:12:20,399 --> 00:12:22,320 thing that surprised me was the trailers to me, were really making it look 195 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,440 like it was super high out, tame and fast paced and everything like Fury 196 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:31,559 Road, and it's not that so spoiler like mind spoils on like the tone 197 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,919 of the movie, but just to prep you also when I can jump a 198 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,240 story spoilers, it's it feels to me very similar. It's funny. It's 199 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,080 so I shouted the Alien ret Road not only because we're doing it in hon 200 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,480 A Romulus, but when I'm excited because we haven't done Alien too yet. 201 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:48,840 But there's like a big divide between like Alien and Aliens because Alien is like, 202 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,240 you know, we talked about the whore isolated movie, and then Aliens 203 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,480 is that's kick ass and we're fighting the you know, the Xenomors and stuff. 204 00:12:58,759 --> 00:13:03,000 This to me feels okay. Both directors capture the mad Max world but 205 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,759 have a very different way of going about it. But it's the same guy 206 00:13:05,879 --> 00:13:11,440 to me, like Fury Road is a non it's one chase scene for two 207 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:13,639 hours, and this is not that. And even the chase scenes, I 208 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,360 think there's a few scenes that get to Fury Road, but even there's a 209 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,159 few or majority of the vehicle action scenes are not like the ones in Fear 210 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:24,519 Road. To me, they're closer to the ones in the original three. 211 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:26,679 I'm not sure Kurkling if you agree that that. To me, they're like 212 00:13:26,919 --> 00:13:31,720 they're slower paced and there's not as much like there is tons of quick edits, 213 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:35,120 but not the exact same, And I think they're a bit more I 214 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,080 won't don't want to say character driven, but there's I just feel like they 215 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,440 they're built up a lot more, where with Fury Row the whole thing is 216 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,799 a chase, so that's where you can't really do that. That's a whole 217 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:48,360 different aesthetic. But so yeah, it kind of reminded me of the older 218 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,360 Mad max Is but way updated. And I like that way more because those 219 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:58,279 movies I appreciate, but I don't really I enjoy them to like a a 220 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,200 good amount as you can go check all the retros. But Fierroal I love, 221 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,960 and yeah, this one I love. Hamsworth was fantastic. I don't 222 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,200 know what we're gonna do for me when we get to films at Golden Geeks 223 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,039 because we got like him, we got uh, we got a Scooby Doo. 224 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,840 Yeah, yeah, what do we do? We got awesome Butler from 225 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,080 Dune, we got uh, god, what's his name? Caesar Prime from 226 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:26,360 whatever the hell apes? Yeah, Kingdom, And I feel like there's another 227 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:26,879 one in there, Like I feel like, and we got a couple of 228 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,360 what I thought you're talking about your ranking of mad Maxims next week, I'm 229 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:33,399 like, oh, Austin Butler was in Period Road. I didn't know about. 230 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:37,159 Oh no, I just mean like, usually, yeah, I feel 231 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,039 like with movies and actors actions that happens. But sometimes think with films like 232 00:14:41,039 --> 00:14:43,960 okay, we got one, maybe to the villain is usually a runaway. 233 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,120 I think last year was a case where it wasn't a runaway because it was 234 00:14:46,159 --> 00:14:50,960 all like a bunch of kind of beats here, Like it's like Godzilla versus 235 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,559 so and so, right, But Helmsworth just he's delivering this weird like Captain 236 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:58,960 Jack Captain Hook mixed with like a little bit of heat Joker, because there's 237 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,440 multiple things that are actually just like the exact same as a Joker from Dark 238 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,679 Knight. I don't think George Miller intended that, but yeah, and Annie 239 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,480 Taylor Joy is really good. I think it's tough the role she has to 240 00:15:09,519 --> 00:15:13,159 do because she is in the role that Tom Hardy is in Fury Road, 241 00:15:13,159 --> 00:15:18,639 where she doesn't get many lines and she's she is the main focus. But 242 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,080 I think just like in Mad Max how Furiosa stole the movie away from him, 243 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,639 I think Hamsworth kind of steals the move away from her. And that's 244 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,519 why I love for the first almost half this movie much like American Psycho to 245 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,879 me, for it shows you can make movies about terrible people and it be 246 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:37,200 compelling because the first act this movie is all about the villains and the antagonists, 247 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,720 and that's why I loved and that's why I was very surprised. And 248 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,679 my hyperbolic take will be I have to look at them all, but this 249 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:46,440 might be my favorite prequel per se because we just did the Apes, and 250 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:50,279 like the those apes, movies are deaf free prequels, but at the same 251 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:54,759 time we've argued they could be a new timeline. There's very few prequels to 252 00:15:54,799 --> 00:15:58,039 me that are any worth any amount of time, And for me, the 253 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:02,559 stuff that they delved in into wasn't stuff like, oh, you're ruining the 254 00:16:02,759 --> 00:16:06,759 original or you're getting too close. Like I was interested in all this stuff, 255 00:16:06,799 --> 00:16:10,840 the politics, how everything was built up, the certain connections each character, 256 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,279 seeing some characters younger, I thought they did a fantastic job, and 257 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,000 yeah, I just George Miller man like it's just like I'm really hoping the 258 00:16:19,039 --> 00:16:22,960 next one is the Mad Max Wasteland movie because I want to I want to 259 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,120 get a trilogy of these Mad Max movies so I can kind of dovetail it. 260 00:16:26,159 --> 00:16:30,200 But I cannot wait to get this on home release, and I cannot 261 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,639 just wait to do this and fear oaed back to back. I just I 262 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:38,960 absolutely loved this movie. I loved the revenge thriller. I loved I actually 263 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,879 enjoyed all the characters stuff. But I thought they gave me a good enough 264 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:45,679 reason to care for all the things they put firo So for. And I 265 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:49,320 now I see why they didn't have Charlie's come back. I still missed her, 266 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,320 but I thought Anya did a great job, so I could see why, 267 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,759 because they're covering some very very young years here, and it probably would 268 00:16:55,759 --> 00:16:57,440 have seemed a little weird. And I think George Miller even talked about all 269 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:00,759 we thought about de aging. But I didn't want to do that because it 270 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,080 kind of takes away. And I think I agree for the most part. 271 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,519 When it's a lead, I think supporting characters and whatnot you can do. 272 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:07,319 But if you were to the age the whole time, probably could get a 273 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,039 little distracting and a little expensive too. But uh no, I love this, 274 00:17:11,039 --> 00:17:15,680 this is up there. I can't I'll have to watch this in Dune. 275 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,000 I think Dune's still my top for the year. But it's a one 276 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:22,480 A, one B situation. George Miller Man just just a master of sandy 277 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,680 top it is. Yeah, there was just one shot I would take that 278 00:17:25,759 --> 00:17:26,880 look like it and I was like, man, if war brothers wanted to, 279 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,200 you know, they can connect to I don't want them to do it 280 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,279 at all. But there's just a shot where it's like, man, like 281 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:34,920 they just love sand this year, you know. So that's Paul's next enemy 282 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:41,240 Firiosa, Oh my god, yeah, more more enjoye fit right into the 283 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,519 Dune universe or something like. Just I'd love to see when him and the 284 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,119 like one of the Beza generary bick well, we got to have like one 285 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,920 of his babies, you know. That'll that'll help maybe that's in Dune Prophecy. 286 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,799 Maybe that'll be the big hook, you know, but anything else, 287 00:17:55,839 --> 00:17:57,799 oh god, Yeah, I wanted to quickly shout out because I forgot to 288 00:17:57,799 --> 00:18:00,519 mention it. Just the sound design, Like, I feel like the visuals 289 00:18:00,519 --> 00:18:06,519 were super standouty, but the specific sound design for me was something that just 290 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:10,119 totally stood out in the whole movie because in a lot of the action scenes, 291 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,759 there's not like a really stand out like I feel like score that's like 292 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,599 boosting it. It's just like a lot more in the background. But for 293 00:18:18,839 --> 00:18:22,359 the specific moments that I felt like the sound design just shine through, was 294 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,319 like the subtleties, whether it was like I don't know, like a character 295 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,759 falls and you hear like very specifically like a random metallic like hook or something 296 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,519 on his bike like hit the ground. It just felt like it piers through 297 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,799 my ears a lot more than like I normally would have maybe noticed those moments, 298 00:18:37,799 --> 00:18:41,960 And I feel like the subtlety of the actual like music behind the action 299 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,960 just just lifted up all those other parts. So yeah, I found the 300 00:18:48,039 --> 00:18:51,440 sound design really good in Fury Road, but this one in particular, just 301 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:55,160 I feel like because it wasn't as high octane in your face. I was 302 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,960 like looking for it more and then like, maybe it's like a Daredevil effect 303 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,480 because I my sin is our heighten in the because of that. But no, 304 00:19:03,599 --> 00:19:06,400 I thought it was. I thought it was amazing and uh we're already 305 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,720 shout out visuals, but yeah it was. I thought it looked really good. 306 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:11,880 Plus you're in the Adobe this time with the theater as well. Yeah 307 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,720 exactly. Yeah, we will get T's thoughts because he's unsure. We'll get 308 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,920 his thoughts on the ranking. So we'll see IMAX thoughts too, that's thoughts. 309 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:25,039 Yeah, yeah, So anything else, don spoilers before we crack this 310 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,039 open. M crack this canteen open. All right, we'll be right back. 311 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Tell them to spoilers for Firosa. I'm Madden Hax Saga and we're back. 312 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:40,400 Where do you want to start? I well, I would love to 313 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,759 uh ask you guys a question and this may be helpful for anyone who didn't 314 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,440 join you guys on the retro, but uh, where where does where does 315 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:52,279 the first three movies lie in? Like the timeline relation to this and Fury 316 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Road is avide that there's a lot of characters in this that were in those 317 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:02,839 original movies to some extent. Oh so oh fury Road okay, oh yeah, 318 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,920 all the Citadel people there in Fury Road, and then everybody else is 319 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,759 not off like Furros of course too. But I think if you would have 320 00:20:10,799 --> 00:20:12,519 got that one, Dylan, you're asking too like the originals, right, 321 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:18,960 yeahah yeah. None of those characters I don't think are in this at all, 322 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,759 and even Fury Road, like I think on the retros, Taylor was 323 00:20:22,759 --> 00:20:26,200 making the argument of like trying to trying to connect like those original ones of 324 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:30,319 like where they could potentially fit into the timeline. But Mad Max is like 325 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:37,000 the only reoccurring character I would think, And that's why it just feels like 326 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:41,200 an anthology type story. And I even felt like that going through the mel 327 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,440 Gibson ones. Other than like the direct sequel, it just felt like a 328 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,799 story about this guy, and they're just like stories, not necessarily in the 329 00:20:48,839 --> 00:20:52,640 chronological order of things. Just this is the playground, this is the badass 330 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,559 and leather and a gun and a cool car, and like, these are 331 00:20:56,559 --> 00:20:59,799 the stories. And that's kind of how I took those, and that's why 332 00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:02,519 I was saying, like furiy Road, it just seems, as Travis put 333 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:07,680 it, like a fresh coat of paint on the entire sagas whatever they are. 334 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,920 In the Originals, they have actors. There's an actor in two and 335 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:15,920 three that's same actor but different characters, like different names. But then people 336 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,119 think like theory, like theorize, oh, could it be the same person 337 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,680 the person that played toe Cutter, the very first villain in the first Mad 338 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Max he plays more in Joe and Fear Road. So they just go They 339 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,519 just like, oh, yeah, we like using these actors, and we'll 340 00:21:29,519 --> 00:21:33,039 go again. But I think, so it's a weird thing because I've thought 341 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,279 about this a few times because we just did this, and technically Furious is 342 00:21:37,279 --> 00:21:40,599 a kid when the Wasteland's already bare and right like I'll see you at the 343 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,400 Greenland, but it's already gone, even though Charlie's thereon is older than uh, 344 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,039 what's his name, Tom Hardy. Technically Inferior Road, you're supposed to 345 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:55,480 watch as Tom Hardy is older than her because Tom mad Max is a young 346 00:21:55,519 --> 00:21:57,160 adult. How ol would you say he's in early twenties when the goals goes 347 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,960 to shit Kirkland when he loses his family, the yeah, like yeah, 348 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,599 and she's a kid, aking maybe not even born yet, so there's supposed 349 00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:08,160 to be twenty years fifteen to twenty years between him, and that's clearly not 350 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,240 the case. So you gotta change that. Because even here we did get 351 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:14,519 to you know, again we're in SPOS, we did get to see a 352 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:18,599 adult mad Max, while there was a very younger final area, yeah, 353 00:22:18,839 --> 00:22:22,160 which I was very happy we didn't go any further because I was like, 354 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,440 oh God, like yes, truly, well, no that I would have 355 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,240 been finding even if Arnold schwartzener. I'm just happy they didn't interact. That 356 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,720 was my worry of him seeing her down there, because they don't interact till 357 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:36,000 fear Roda was like the call him Strider. Yeah, we're gonna get bad 358 00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,759 thing of like, oh legless, have you heard of this man before? 359 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:41,119 Like you might meet him one day. It's like, okay. I didn't 360 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,680 want him to be the one that like picked her up and just dropped her 361 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,000 off, which because it does fit like that's what he does. He just 362 00:22:47,039 --> 00:22:52,079 goes around begrudgually helping people. But that I thought that was like a fun, 363 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:55,519 fun cameo. I liked that. That's a good, good amount because 364 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:57,240 when I was watching this, I was thinking like, man, those original 365 00:22:57,279 --> 00:23:00,920 movies, if it's like a younger version of Max, like they must be 366 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:07,400 somewhere close in like the actual year count to where this movie takes place. 367 00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,440 But I guess they don't really worry about it too much, Like are the 368 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,599 places similar at all, like the names of these towns or cities or anything. 369 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,279 Gas Town is well, wait, it was gas out over. They 370 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:19,720 the original movies must also take it must all be in Australia, right, 371 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,160 Like that's the setting of everything. They had a gas town actually in the 372 00:23:25,279 --> 00:23:26,880 second Road Warry, right, that's where they go, but it's not this 373 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:30,920 size, right, So either gas Town has grown because like years happened, 374 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,720 because I think unfortunately for Max, he's probably he's been the Apocalypse for about 375 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,599 thirty years, so he's been there for quite a while, So Gastown could 376 00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:41,440 have grown, or it's another gas town that is just so well we own 377 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:45,119 and stuff. But and I was gonna say they they definitely are in Australia 378 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,799 because he's got Australians, But at the same point, by the time you 379 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,680 get to the like the third he could be anywhere in the world because it's 380 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,720 just everything's gone to crap and you got Tina Turner there, who's you know, 381 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,039 hanging out. But is there ever like boat travel or anything. It's 382 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:03,000 all feel like that Australia is just so far away from everything that I don't 383 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,640 really see how they would get elsewhere. That's so much sand there was done. 384 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,079 It filled up the water, the lakes, and there's the whole world 385 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,480 right out. Yeah, you know, like in winter. How even though 386 00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:18,480 the shot in this movie is off Australia surrounded by waters, still, yeah, 387 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,559 it's gonna fill up your road. It's gonna be in the next few 388 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,720 years. Yeah, but I would assume they're all barren Australia, And yeah, 389 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,039 they kind of get worse and worse because the first Mad Max starts, 390 00:24:30,079 --> 00:24:33,440 it's like it's kind of in the middle of COVID if you think about that 391 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,279 way, where it's an operating world, but it's very like barren and people 392 00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:38,680 aren't outside, and then it just gets worse and worse to what we have 393 00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:42,599 now, which is just uh, mountains and sands, you know, mm 394 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,000 hmm. Yeah, gotcha, Kirk. You like the bad Max cameo? 395 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,279 Yeah, I did. I agree with you. I like the you know, 396 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,400 the the distance of it all. I thought that would have really brought 397 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,039 down the whole experience. It's like, hey, kid top in and he's 398 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,160 the one that like saves her. Then it's just like thinking about their interactions 399 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,279 in Fury Road, like it just wouldn't have made sense. So I am 400 00:25:04,279 --> 00:25:07,960 happy with it. I feel like mad Max just loves those types of perches, 401 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,119 like Fury Road had the shot of him up on a hill like that. 402 00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:15,519 Oh yeah, the second Mad Max Road Warrior had like a similar type 403 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,319 peak that he was on and so he's just kind of sitting by his car, 404 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,200 maybe having a snack, maybe doing whatever. So yeah, I thought 405 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:29,480 it was fun and yeah good, and then we were laughing our ass off 406 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,680 of the next scene because they set up these people which I don't think we 407 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,640 saw, Like this is a side note before I forget about it. I 408 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,039 don't think we saw many of them. And Fear Road, if at all, 409 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:42,880 these like weird. I'm not gonna call them witches, but something whatever 410 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:48,720 is underneath the citadel with those maggots and they're growing stuff. Stay here, 411 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:55,319 nasty, Yeah you'll be safe. Yeah, this is peaceful here. And 412 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:59,160 all the maggots that was that was disgusting, But shut of those actresses. 413 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,759 They sold that and I I was laughing as I, Oh, it's funny 414 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:07,559 because it's Anya as well. But I was getting like witch vibes, just 415 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:11,440 like that level of grotesque and yeah, just the zoom in of the maggots 416 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,680 and like the one that was scooping, like the fucking toe jam off that 417 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,839 one just severed leg. Like yeah, it's like when you go to Subsidy 418 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,960 don't Air and they're like scraping the meat off the thing. I can never 419 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:29,400 look at that again thanks of that visual, I guess. I like, 420 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,319 if we jump back to the first act, I suppose if there was anything 421 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,279 that was surprising to me in this movie, it was just how long that 422 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,000 sequence was and now it took what forty five minutes to actually see Anya on 423 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,680 screen. That was that was very unexpected for me from the trailers, but 424 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,400 also just like from a story perspective, that they would spend that much time 425 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,000 with her being that young. I guess, yeah, yeah, I was 426 00:26:56,039 --> 00:27:00,559 also very surprised. I felt, yeah, I thought we were gonna get 427 00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:04,079 it for like maybe less than ten minutes and then straight to Anya. But 428 00:27:04,839 --> 00:27:10,400 I quite liked actually those sequences as well, Like I thought that the there 429 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,119 is certain moments that it feels like we are maybe just fast traveling to locations 430 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,599 for the sake of just pushing along the story. But I thought, like 431 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,680 the patient of all that introductory stuff as we were like starting on, like 432 00:27:23,079 --> 00:27:26,960 just going like with with this young version of Huriosa, I was like, 433 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,519 oh, this might feel like a drag, But no, I really liked 434 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,799 just the sequence of all of that and just showing like the pursuit of her 435 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,640 mother, like chasing her through and just being like hit Man forty seven in 436 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,599 the desert, just sniping these uh, these these I was gonna say, 437 00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:49,160 poor bikers, these these bikers that deserved what they were. These we know, 438 00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:53,119 we know who's side Kirklan is. And then forty day Oil War whatever 439 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,960 they call it, call me to jam. Yeah, no, shout that 440 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,680 actress. I guarantee you, whatever name is, male fight on the review, 441 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,519 you're gonna see her like a bunch of stuff. Now, I guarantee 442 00:28:03,559 --> 00:28:06,839 you. We're going, oh that's a girl from Firo says girl Funerals. 443 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,559 Because not only is she good in it, she's just she's in it a 444 00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,799 lot. And now I would argue that chapter, which is funny enough, 445 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:17,359 I would argue Chris Hemsworth is like the main character of the first act, 446 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,319 but still she still has to hold her own a few times and not stick 447 00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,440 out like okay, Like I never at any point new any was coming, 448 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,039 but I was never going, oh, this is dragon because it's the kid, 449 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,839 you know, and that's just don't want, you know, want some 450 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:30,880 really bad kid actress. And that's what I did end up liking. I 451 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:36,400 was surprised to see it took me for kind of a whirl, and I 452 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,079 think I enjoyed that. I don't think I needed it to hate Chris Hemsworth 453 00:28:40,119 --> 00:28:41,759 more because I think they do multiple things to make me go, okay, 454 00:28:41,799 --> 00:28:45,599 I want this character get killed if he's a bad person. X Y and 455 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,720 Z, Like they could have had Anya grow up at the point when they 456 00:28:48,759 --> 00:28:52,599 put her mom on the cross, right and like, hey, justify already 457 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,680 burn a mom in front of her daughter. I got that, but I 458 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,640 think it was just his workings. I think it was also to see him 459 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,400 kindkind of grow some affection for her. At the end of the day when 460 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,759 he got the chance for power, he still gave her up, but he 461 00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,000 kept wanting more and more to give her up. I did like at the 462 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,359 end of the movie, we because sometimes they leave that as a mystery, 463 00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:15,359 and I'm fine with it if they do. That's why I thought they were 464 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,680 going a joker. He fled your route. But unless he's lying, but 465 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,640 he he said at the beginning of the movie he did have a family, 466 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,559 and then he doubled down on it to me in his last moment, so 467 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:29,839 I don't think he's lying about it. I don't think what he came back 468 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,839 so he has this bear, so I kind of like that there's something that 469 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 symbolizes something he used to have. But that shows why this character is a 470 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,319 piece of shit because at the end of the day, one also the things 471 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,119 he did, but he still chose to sell her and you know, okay, 472 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,960 I'll take water food for X, Y and Z even though he's like, 473 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,640 oh, this is my daughter and yeah, da da da da. 474 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,359 But that's what I liked, is didn't to me establish that I needed him 475 00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:56,079 to be the villain. I just like seeing the inner workings of Demetrius's mind 476 00:29:56,119 --> 00:30:00,640 and just how he had these lofty goals because even we'll get but at the 477 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,160 end when he's like, oh, you're a little d like this is perfect, 478 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,559 Like he wants to go out like a caesar or like a you know, 479 00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:11,680 a king Theda, Like he wants this big, noble death. He 480 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,119 wants to die in battle. He wants to be like ridden about and stuff, 481 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,079 which some of his actions, yeah, witnessed me, but some of 482 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,960 his actions don't like fit that. He wants the legacy of like a true 483 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:26,720 king, but he doesn't act that way. He actually way as far as 484 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:32,119 power, but he's constantly sacrificing his man. He's just trying to make power 485 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,680 plays. He could have just he I don't. We don't know what everything 486 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880 is. But that's what I like throughout the movie that keeps saying like, 487 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,559 hey, this guy, he's just running gas down and into the ground. 488 00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:45,039 Like I like that. It shows that his kind of aching for power is 489 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,519 probably what screwed him in the end. If he would have probably just sat 490 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:49,920 down and worked with them in a gas down. So that's what I think 491 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,799 the first act did to me was Okay, he established he's a bad guy, 492 00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,240 but he also establish to me what his downfall was, and hemswereth y 493 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,319 app we already said it. But he was fantastic in this role. So 494 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,359 yeah, I know it's a. It's a good observation of the character because 495 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,839 I liked seeing kind of the downfall of it. But I feel like I 496 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:11,279 didn't really just compare where he was in the early stages, where especially that 497 00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:15,200 cloak that he has, like throughout the movie, that just gets dirtier and 498 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,680 dirtier, Like at the end, obviously he's like getting super gray and he 499 00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,559 just looks more stressed. He's got wrinkles, whereas the first time we see 500 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,880 him, it's like he's an angelic character where he has this like just pure 501 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,920 white cloak that's like just floating in the wind. No one's ever looked that 502 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,319 good in the Mad Max universe. I don't mean like like clean skin and 503 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,759 like put together, Like in all five movies like this the fifth, they're 504 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,519 always dirty and raw and teeth and stinky and stuff. So that's where it's 505 00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:44,319 like, even if it's like a makeshift one, he is like the model 506 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,319 of this world and stuff. And he's so spoken and he's yeah, semi 507 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,920 caring, right, He's like give her our Beth bast water and get to 508 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,440 yeah, and he's he's like he's talking like this savior of the wasteland, 509 00:31:56,519 --> 00:32:00,319 especially when they go to the Citadel the first time, and he's yeah, 510 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,839 promises right, Yeah, like he's just so pumped. And then by like 511 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,000 later on when we see him in like dire straits, like yeah, he's 512 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:14,480 he's putting his interpreter guy like we had run the chariot. Yeah, like 513 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,039 just all these actions. So yeah, I like that. I'm yeah, 514 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,519 I mean, it's so fun having Hemsworth in a role like this since we're 515 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:25,920 just so he stimplants the war of course, but yeah, it just it 516 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,079 it echoed to me bad times at the l Royale and not in the like 517 00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,720 in that movie. He has like a certain swagger to him. Where is 518 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:37,400 this he's more of just like a total piece of shit type of character. 519 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,319 Of course, they're both villainous characters, so there's some overlap there, but 520 00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:43,519 I think it's he can just really tap into a role like this in a 521 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,640 big way. And yeah, you're right, Like he really truly was the 522 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:50,720 kind of protagonist of like the first half of this movie. And it's not 523 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:53,079 like he disappears for the end of it either, Like he's still always there 524 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:59,000 and always has a presence and he's always always great. I do think a 525 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:05,240 couple weaker points for me, like one is that storyline of like he had 526 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,119 this family and they were lost, because I feel like it truly is just 527 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,039 like two throwaway lines, and I'm like, okay, if we have no 528 00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:15,799 connection to these characters, like is that enough for us to have sympathy for 529 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,319 him? Is that the purpose? Because I had no point but any sort 530 00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:21,039 of sympathy for him because he's so bad, and like, okay, he 531 00:33:21,079 --> 00:33:24,119 had a family, but we don't know really like they died, I guess, 532 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,880 but we don't have any more information. We don't even really know if 533 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,799 it's real, like he could be lying about it too, So I think 534 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,440 that part didn't really work for me so much. And then this is kind 535 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,519 of jumping the end of the bit, but I think it was really fun 536 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:44,160 seeing him gradually climb up in power and take more control over the waistline. 537 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,000 It's kind of that like joke of like starting with like a thumbtack and like 538 00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,720 trading it up and up until you trade it for a house, that kind 539 00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:52,599 of thing, because I feel like he just constantly was doing that with a 540 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,000 little power plays here there, like making the first trade for with those people 541 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,839 from the Citadel for like, okay, a little food for oil, and 542 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,920 then he eventually builds up and takes over gas Town. Then he doesn't need 543 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,759 to at all, but he goes and takes over the Bullet Farm, which 544 00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,840 feels like it has no bearing on like helping him what he's doing. And 545 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,519 then he has to go for the citadel at that point because it's because he's 546 00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:17,519 truly like just destroyed their resources and their ability to go on. But I 547 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:22,599 think, to me, then the downfall of it is like most movies would 548 00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,400 have a big montage sequence like be the middle of this movie, where it's 549 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,639 like him climbing to power and taking all this stuff, But this movie has 550 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,239 like the downfall as like a montage at the end where it's like this forty 551 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:39,920 year war and it's like a one more day set day. Sorry, but 552 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,280 it's played through in like forty seconds. And then we go to like Firio 553 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,480 so which I think, to me, that was too bad, because like 554 00:34:46,519 --> 00:34:50,960 I guess we already saw a bit of his downfall because he was so bad 555 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,280 at dealing with the resource side of things. But I don't know, I 556 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,519 guess that was maybe a bit too brief when I feel like there was easily 557 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,800 other points in the movie where you could have cut stuff or like, you 558 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,559 know, I like the opening first act sequence with the pre Anya stuff, 559 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,199 but like you could have shortened that somewhat and maybe dealt a little bit more 560 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,559 into that, I think for the pacing of it, Like we already had 561 00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:13,840 big action set pieces near the end, so we didn't necessarily need that for 562 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,559 the forty Day War. But I still think that is a bit of a 563 00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:21,559 detractor for me, And so like a combination of that, and then I 564 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:25,159 think I kind of saw that definitely Travis, the relationship with him and and 565 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,239 Furiosa, Like I I don't feel like he really cared about her at all 566 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,760 at any point, Like the way he just gave her away without any hesitation 567 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,400 though you know he he no, he did hesitate. He he said, 568 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840 I'm not giving her up. I'm not giving her up, and then he 569 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,719 started alliance at this okay, twelve seconds or something, but hesitated and a 570 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,920 couple more watermelons, you know, Okay, Well, yeah, to me, 571 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,400 it didn't show, didn't demonstrate to me that he really cared about her 572 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,760 at all. In the fact that he couldn't recognize her for a very long 573 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,000 time also was to me as if he had just completely forgot about her existence 574 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,079 and then and he finally noticed who she was. I just felt like he 575 00:36:02,159 --> 00:36:05,960 was trying to do that to like maybe get an upper hand and survive the 576 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,320 situation by like trying to smooth talker a bit. So I guess I perceived 577 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,360 a bit of that differently. But I don't know. How did you guys 578 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,639 feel about the forty day War and that kind of just being like really kind 579 00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:22,280 of glazed over quickly to get to the ending like moment between them. Yeah, 580 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,840 I felt like I was caught off guard because I don't know. Maybe 581 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:30,480 I just don't fully I'm not super fluent in ausye, but I did not 582 00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:32,679 hear him say the forty day War. I thought it was like the fortieth 583 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,320 War or something, or like the something like I heard forty in there, 584 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,199 But I didn't know what the relevance of it because it was just so fast. 585 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,320 Obviously I saw bodies and then like just taking apart at all the cars, 586 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,960 people stealing boots and whatnot. So I assumed there was some time that 587 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,440 had passed, But I think just because it happened so quickly, and like 588 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,920 by this point too, we had already kind of been jumping around quite a 589 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,559 bit that I At first, I was a little bit like easy, like, 590 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:02,559 uh, like they are jumping really fast here. But I kind of 591 00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:07,440 just got into it as we got more and more along with the film, 592 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,639 certain questions that maybe we just like skip through, like how they would make 593 00:37:12,679 --> 00:37:15,920 sense. I just was accepting that more more and more. I'll go to 594 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,960 some of those specifics after. But no, I thought, for like, 595 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:28,639 you make a good point, especially with Dementus's just maybe like forgetfulness of like 596 00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:32,119 the whole torture of her mother and basically losing her. I feel like it 597 00:37:32,199 --> 00:37:36,400 took a lot a long time to just get to that answer, for him 598 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,800 to actually realize who she was. So yeah, see, so I'll talk 599 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,280 in the Forty Day War a second. I thought, the reason it took 600 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,840 that long is because that's how many people he's wronged. And it's like, 601 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,199 you're probably not wrong, but it's just I felt insignificant because of that. 602 00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:55,760 If she was so important to him, wouldn't the recall be a bit better 603 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,079 on that? I think that's just like, because it's been fifteen years. 604 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:04,480 I think that's just how many people, like, that's how bad this guy 605 00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:07,119 is. How many people has he burned on a cross? How many people 606 00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,159 has he like torn to pieces? I think my other piece of why. 607 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,320 So here's where when I say he cares about her, I don't mean in 608 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,960 the sense that he ever truly loved her. I think he cares about her 609 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400 in like a property sense and like owning her. But stuff like when this 610 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,639 citadel tacks him, he does stay back to save her. And that's the 611 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,480 thing where it's like we see multiple times, maybe he sacrifice people, his 612 00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:29,800 life is at risk. Why would he try to save this girl in this 613 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,440 moment. And I don't think he loves her, but I think there's some 614 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:38,480 some whether whatever whatever this guy cares about as far as property, he cares 615 00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:42,519 enough about her to put his life on the line when these fucking war boys 616 00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,000 are jumping from the mountain, sacrificing himself. He's fighting off those witches. 617 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,960 He has the chain wrapped down around his arm, He's pulling the whole vehicle 618 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,760 by himself just to get this girl. Where later on at the end of 619 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,880 the movie, he's doing none of that. He's letting everybody die. He'll 620 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,840 get anyone die. So that's where I say there's something there. I think 621 00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:02,639 you know, yeah, I guess the earlier sequences of it. I more 622 00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:07,639 saw it is like he wanted to keep her around because she could lead him 623 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:12,280 to the green Place, and so that's where he was. Maybe he was 624 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,719 being like extra, you know, killing her with kindness sort of thing because 625 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,320 he just wanted something out ofvert. Now you're making some good points of later 626 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,159 on when like he's not really too concerned about that anymore and he's more just 627 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:24,800 trying to make deals happen with the Citadel and further his stuff going on there. 628 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,840 But to me, that's like always kind of in the back of his 629 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,519 head through like that whole earlier phase of the movie. That's what I want 630 00:39:31,639 --> 00:39:35,679 more on because that's something that didn't work for me because I got that he 631 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,159 wanted that, but it's like, clearly, this girl's not gonna talk. 632 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:42,000 The mom's dead. I just I wanted to know what his I guess that 633 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,480 was just his endgame. Maybe he was killed with kindness, but it's like, 634 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:45,760 was he just gonna have this girl grow up to be like forty years 635 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,239 old in this cage if she didn't say anything? Right? Like, I 636 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,920 wanted a little bit more of what was what was the game play. She 637 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880 doesn't say anything right, but that's where he has or sat with the whole 638 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,239 truthsareer guy, which I like that. I liked that character. I like 639 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,280 him writing. I liked her, you know, explain like that, the 640 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:06,280 little back and forth they had, and he ended up making it that guy 641 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,199 too somewhere because they can tell the stories. So for the Forty Day War, 642 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,199 I didn't mind it, just because they showed the only way that Demetrius 643 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,519 and as people could get a one up on the Citadel balls by tricking them. 644 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,320 So the second goes to war, it's over. Like. That's what 645 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,639 I really appreciate, and that's what really fit with fury Road is. I 646 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,639 love he gets there, Oh yeah, you guys are rise up. We 647 00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:30,320 can take this over. I can give you their water, give you their 648 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,800 food, and they do that one war boy. I'm like, Okay, 649 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,880 it's gonna go to war. But this citadel destroys them and obviously they got 650 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,199 home terf advantage, but they just destroy them because I feel, yeah, 651 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,400 sure there's some warriors on Hempsforth's side, but I feel like they're all kind 652 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,440 of renegades and they're just like the not the pick of the litter right where 653 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,519 the war boys they're all ripped, they're torn, they're they're called war boys. 654 00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:57,559 So that's why for me it's I guess I didn't need the montage there 655 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:00,159 because one like you said, I don't think we need any more action stuff. 656 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,000 But I just took it as okay, the second you go to war, 657 00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,199 and even more than Joe kind of said that, like you've crossed me, 658 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,880 we do go to war, it's over. So that's why I guess 659 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,760 I bought just okay, it's forty a war, but it's really just systematically 660 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,000 the Citadel killing his whole clan day by day by day. Oh say, 661 00:41:16,039 --> 00:41:20,320 they lost a lot of war boys and stuff, and Joe was just sitting 662 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,320 up there. So that's why I was fine with the montage there. Yeah 663 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,360 they're own Valhella. Yeah, they're alln Valelaya, and there was a lot 664 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,840 of that. I appreciate them sticking to that. Like the best one was 665 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,440 we laugh Kirkling is when Antary Joy got the diamond, goes to throw it 666 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,639 and the war boy grats that witness me and then dies flips the vehicle. 667 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,159 Like I love how we got that in Fear Road, But it felt like 668 00:41:43,199 --> 00:41:46,000 even more. These guys were so damn like I want to make sure I 669 00:41:46,199 --> 00:41:50,599 died, Like when guy's like spray himself with gasoline so like he'll sit on 670 00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:53,000 fire. Like. I love that they kept that mentality because to me, 671 00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:57,360 this is the height of it where no one's questioning more than Joe. He's 672 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,320 the young like he's young, like clearly his skin's like doing a bit better 673 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,119 than it is later on, but he's the young war leader. And I 674 00:42:06,159 --> 00:42:08,199 loved everything they did there, I was still wanting a little bit more. 675 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:14,000 I feel like we only got one Morton Joe like like you know, point 676 00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:15,639 at the guy and like get them all hyped. He wasn't the full monologue 677 00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:20,079 that he gives Nicholas the whole character. I'll carry you to the gates of 678 00:42:20,159 --> 00:42:24,000 Valhalla myself. I got no mediocres in this, so I I, yeah, 679 00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:29,000 I like you. I absolutely loved all the war boys inclusion of this, 680 00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:30,320 but I think I just love them so much. I wanted a little 681 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,360 bit more. But fair Yeah, I'm glad, Like I'm happy I got 682 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,039 that one moment where yeah, Anya is just like very clearly gonna throw the 683 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,239 just grabs it right over hand. Whenness jumps back and to this driver who 684 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,760 doesn't give off. He's trying to do like it like the witness me bloodbag, 685 00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,679 which kirktly. I could be wrong because just a piece of armor. 686 00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:59,000 But did you infer that the driver of the war tank was probably a cop 687 00:42:59,039 --> 00:43:02,239 in the original world because he had that shoulder blade like Max and his friend 688 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,760 right now, Anya gets one eventually, but I just thought he was Australia 689 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:09,920 to me, just had similar vibes of the cops in the first movie, 690 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,920 and I was wondering and he was just the way he wanted to train her, 691 00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:16,000 take her on the wind. I'm not sure if they're trying to make 692 00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:22,719 them friends or romantic. I wasn't digging the more romantic vibes they went with. 693 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,679 I was fine with just I got what Yeah, and I don't think 694 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,400 that was there. I think this was unfortunately the role that ya Ya was 695 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,000 supposed to play, and then he had to drop out. I would be 696 00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:38,159 very curious to see that dynamic was a really different casting. Yeah, but 697 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,840 I just because Yaya was cast and they had drop ups becusion. I don't 698 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,320 know who else he would have played because it was already h Chris Hemsworth was 699 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,599 already cast, and Onya was already cast, and Ya Ya was third. 700 00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:50,199 And I just feel like when you look at characters had the most meat, 701 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,000 I feel like he's am I wrong in saying that Driver got the most like 702 00:43:54,039 --> 00:43:58,719 a third not billing, but like as far as character and being on screen, 703 00:43:59,199 --> 00:44:00,960 Yeah, biggest cacharacter for sure. Yeah, and that's why I feel 704 00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:05,159 like all the Lackeys, which get a lot, maybe more screen time overall, 705 00:44:05,159 --> 00:44:07,559 but doesn't have as much substance. Yeah, man, I would love 706 00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:09,920 to see Yah yeah, because I think Yeah has a very good energy. 707 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,599 But I liked this guy enough. But yeah, I wasn't digging the more 708 00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,719 romantic seven If so, I guess they just didn't have the chemistry there. 709 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,599 I also just don't know. I don't know if the age was working for 710 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:23,599 me. Maybe they're very similar in age, but he was looking a lot 711 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:29,199 lot older and she's still supposed to be I think, like so she was 712 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,559 maybe this has been fifteen years, Okay, she's probably like in her twenties 713 00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:35,320 or something in this movie. Still, you know. Just yeah, I 714 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,719 liked his, uh, his presence. I mean that's what a lot of 715 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,000 these characters are who a lot of them don't really maybe have a lot of 716 00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,119 dialogue, so it is about that presence. I think he was cool in 717 00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:51,119 that way. But yeah, I think the the love dynamic that was another 718 00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,400 thing where you know, tugging on the heart strings. That that scene was 719 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:58,000 not like it's pretty sad of course when he's getting just dragged around in the 720 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,840 cereble for hours and hours, but I wasn't. I wasn't personally sad for 721 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,679 them in their relationship in that moment. So I don't know. I think 722 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,840 he maybe served his purpose, but yeah, I'm curious what the intention was 723 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,320 was to be there, But it came across a little a little goofy maybe 724 00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:22,199 patron drat Patron Dragan Jack Jack play by Tom Burke. And it's funny because 725 00:45:22,199 --> 00:45:24,360 I didn't I thought I may be misheard it as pretorian Max the first time 726 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,039 this is this US just like the cash New Mad Max. Here, I 727 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,519 realized pretty quickly it was not the case. And I've only seen one thing, 728 00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,199 and I didn't love him in that either. He was in this movie 729 00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:37,880 called The Wonder of Florence Pew and he was her love interest. And I 730 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,559 just don't know if he has like Uh, it's kind of like how I 731 00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:43,280 feel about the Rock, where I feel that the rock can never be a 732 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,599 good He doesn'tutcome or something. He doesn't have a chemistry of females, you 733 00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:50,800 know, like he has chemistry with men. No. No, yeah, 734 00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:52,800 he had no chills that way. So yeah, I just wish they just 735 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,679 made more the mentee. And that's why I was looking, because I'm pretty 736 00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,840 sure he is closer age. It's just the beer or whatnot threw me off. 737 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,719 But I just wish the mentor stuff just hit more that route because she 738 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,760 could still do this the head thing and the like you can come with me 739 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,760 and stuff like just because he saved her, and I agree that you don't 740 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,079 where I didn't feel the loss of him and felt like he was almost like 741 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,880 an afterthought at that point because she's just gone but very well done. Like 742 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,639 we all know she loses her arm, but how how they did it? 743 00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:25,199 And like the just like again calling the tires and then it's like hanging on 744 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,039 and then Hams for the wrench of that Crain is like, oh my god, 745 00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:30,599 like and and I felt like they almost could have gone a bit more 746 00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:34,519 gorrier. This is a radar movie. I was surprised to begin the movie 747 00:46:34,559 --> 00:46:37,360 when they had those chains around the guy's limbs and head that they like covered 748 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,440 up by smoke, like it's already a radar. So I surprised the stuff, 749 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,760 like even with the hand, like it was there dripping, but they 750 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,480 didn't show like ripping off or hanging by a thread. I thought they were 751 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,639 gonna but it was still still gross. So they saved all that for the 752 00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:58,519 maggots they did. Yeah, like this Gore budget went uh yeah for for 753 00:46:58,599 --> 00:47:01,119 Predatory and Jack. I I liked him in the role. I think it 754 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:06,280 helps knowing that he wasn't going to make it through. I guess I didn't 755 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,039 know for certain that he was going to die or anything, but like he 756 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:14,920 was an inferior road and there's no like her writing letters to another man, 757 00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:20,719 Like I'd never thought that this guy was making it through this film personally, 758 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,760 I mean, yeah, I think that they were going for some of the 759 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:28,400 romantic isms, but I'm glad they didn't like force it down our throats and 760 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,480 like make them kiss or something like I did like the coaching role that he 761 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:37,559 was in and just kind of like their introduction, like I think that was 762 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:42,280 Yeah, I think that was my favorite scene actually the entire movie. I'll 763 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,280 call it a sequence more than a scene because it's just a much longer like 764 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:50,480 the whole war rig battle when she's just the stowaway and then she like, 765 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,679 you know, by the end of it, she's her whatever the roles are, 766 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,800 I can't remember what they're called. But no, I thought that whole 767 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,840 sequence was really really good and just him kind of taking her under his wing. 768 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,360 It was it kind of seemed weird that he like drove away and then 769 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,400 walked back, like where did he park the war rig? Like I feel 770 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,760 like someone's gonna just gta imagine you just look down and that things just going 771 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:19,079 like, oh man, when just more and Joe, this is gonna suck. 772 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880 But no, I, oh sorry, I was just gonna add on 773 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,280 to that action sequence because that was my That was definitely my my favorite action 774 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,800 sequence of the movie. And you know, I had very much that classic 775 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,400 Mad Max sort of energy going on to it. But I just love the 776 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,719 phases of it. I just feel like we kept we'd clear out a round 777 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,599 of enemies and then like another wave would come in and felt like a video 778 00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:43,480 game in that way, you know, a Horde mode sit situation. But 779 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,920 all the just I like the look of those enemies they were fighting there, 780 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,639 who kind of had like the long like frilly helmets. I don't know if 781 00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:54,400 that's like an established faction or something like that, but I like their their 782 00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:58,639 the bike that they had that was attached to the guy who had like skates, 783 00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:00,840 and then it would turn to like the pair sales so they could get 784 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:05,440 up top, which honestly seemed way too complicated for not much gain. Like 785 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,719 the spears they had seemed to work just fine from the ground, but I 786 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,519 like how extra it is that really worked for me. And then I just 787 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:15,239 I love too on the the war rig, how they had like that one 788 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,599 I guess poll that they had to use like to get back and forth from 789 00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:22,719 the two things. Once again, does not seem like you really need that, 790 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,880 Like it seems like to have any moving part as part of the engineering 791 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,840 of that is just over complicating things like what if it gets stuck on the 792 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,519 side and someone needs to get across. So many logistical issues, but I 793 00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:36,360 think it made for really fun visuals to it. So yeah, that was 794 00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,880 just such a fun sequence all around. I love that they had fans. 795 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:45,320 It's like jet packs to propel them for Yeah, that's the spikes on the 796 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,000 back of the truck too, and they went to overdrive and use that. 797 00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:52,599 It was so cool. That sequence for me was that it's a bunch of 798 00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:57,199 people but because he writes his watch like man, George Miller, he's just 799 00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,440 so cool and he's just thinking like, hey, what random regular day appliances 800 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,519 can we have come over to the wastelands? Like yeah, there would be 801 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,880 fans, I guess right, Like you could fashion that as like, oh, 802 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,119 you're gonna use that propel ford and whatnot, and yeah, that that 803 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,760 I think. I agree. It's probably the best sequence of the movie. 804 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,119 And yeah, very well done. And that's I know. Kirk and Tar 805 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:19,599 always talk about the Star Wars Arts game. They want. That sequence wanted 806 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,880 made me want a mad Max Artist game. I don't know how it would 807 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,840 work because you'd constantly be moving, but it was just cool if, like 808 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,280 like you said, down, like just these different waves of coming in. 809 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,159 I could just imagine like Okay, you got a convoy and you have your 810 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,079 certain selects of armies, like okay, this is speed, this is the 811 00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:36,079 aerial, Like what you're gonna you have to defend? Like your tank over 812 00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:37,760 there, like, especially with the waistline. I was like, man, 813 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,920 I would be so down for an arts that's I recently bought that twenty fifteen 814 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,480 Mad Max. This is on stuff like two dollars. I'm gonna be playing 815 00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,599 it soon again. I haven't booted it up yet, but yeah, we 816 00:50:47,599 --> 00:50:52,199 should do a little sidequest episode talking about that. Yeah. Oh there's there's 817 00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:54,079 so many times too, like the driving that game did a good job where 818 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:57,840 it's like, man, this feels exactly like that moment it went in the 819 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,599 game when you're like too close to the hill and stuff. But yeah, 820 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,800 great, great students. And I love the guns. I love the guns 821 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,000 that are like brass nuts or the knives, so much good stuff. And 822 00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:09,519 when that that like devil guy that tortured her mother like shows up with the 823 00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:15,760 just fucking like octopus squid arm ballue whatever the hell that was, and I 824 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,559 loved it too because you can kind of see him like way off in the 825 00:51:17,639 --> 00:51:22,960 distance. I recognize, like the balloon from when you know Young Anya, 826 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:30,679 I guess Young Furio. So it gets kidnapped like it's at that little hideout 827 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,599 I guess there, so like I knew it was Dementus's crew, but like 828 00:51:36,639 --> 00:51:38,440 it just seems so far away, and then as you guys were saying, 829 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,400 with just the waves, they like take out the one wave and then it 830 00:51:40,519 --> 00:51:45,639 just gets like super close and then it's him with his uh, I don't 831 00:51:45,639 --> 00:51:47,559 even know what his his machine gun set up was. It was just like 832 00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:52,760 five submachine guns like all like wrapped around each other. Just yeah, the 833 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,840 design was was fantastic, but and that like he should have been on Sarn's 834 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,280 team, like with that helmet and everything. Yeah, he was scary, 835 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,119 dark mad going on there. And that like prolonged sequence of the whole war 836 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,360 rig battle that was where like the score in that I don't know if it 837 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,400 changed, but it just seemed like just like a really like quiet like drum 838 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,599 beat or something like it. Like it just I don't know, it just 839 00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:20,719 seemed like you would have like the high Kane like electric guitar. I guess 840 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,960 we didn't have that big uh the big amp truck that we had in the 841 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:28,239 Fury Road, but it just seems like that's when you would have that sort 842 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,800 of like music come in, but it never came, and I thought it. 843 00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:35,639 I thought it uplifted the scene, honestly, and there's multiple cues they 844 00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,199 did it throughout the movie, but in that scene, especially where the music 845 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,920 they did have then the sound effects, it almost goes silent just to show 846 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,719 off one effect. I think it was when Anya like loaded a gun or 847 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,599 shot someone, not when she was threatening the driver or at one point she 848 00:52:47,679 --> 00:52:52,079 got the gun and turned and everything was quiet except for that, and then 849 00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:54,639 she shot and then everything came like rushing right back. It's like, oh 850 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,079 man, that that's some good stuff. And I would love to see like 851 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,639 the script on that, and is it something we're in that script that they 852 00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:02,599 really put it, or it's the edit of like, hey, what moment 853 00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:07,320 works the best for like a drop everything and then wush it back. So 854 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,920 just that to me will be a very fun sequence to rewatch. And that's 855 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,960 where again, of course lots that is cgi where they're driving, but like 856 00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,880 they're not on exactly the road, like Anya is not under there and stuff. 857 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,679 But that's where I think there's a good for me blend of it. 858 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,800 Where we always refer back to it, or at least I do, is 859 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,559 when we did Anne Jones, like, oh man, I miss like those 860 00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:30,800 days. And this to me is again like fury Road where of course there's 861 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,199 CGI's stuff happening in effects, but it feels like such a good blend where 862 00:53:35,199 --> 00:53:38,079 you are not just feel like, Okay, I'm just watching just computer animation 863 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,800 right now, which can be good in certain things, but when it's mixed 864 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,840 with a lot of these real life elements or actors, you want to feel 865 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,199 like there's some danger there, and I think obviously design and stuff and it 866 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,559 helps that. I think most of time when the characters are CGI, it's 867 00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,880 a very far shot, like every time they show Crim's head for Crew, 868 00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,199 it's all CGI obviously and lots of war boys. But I like when ROP 869 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:05,159 close and personally they do their best to no one's turning into a spaghetti guy 870 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,679 or something like that. You know, no log trucks, No log trucks. 871 00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,960 That's what they gotta put in Mad Max trees in this world. Yeah, 872 00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:14,840 except for the Green Place. That'll be a villain. He's the guy 873 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,079 because we never foun't have him a green play, so he chopped it all 874 00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:20,559 up and then you're gonna see this guy with logs and Furos can be like, 875 00:54:20,559 --> 00:54:22,320 oh my god, that's the green place. So there you go. 876 00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,599 It's my pitch for number six. Uh, let's take an ad break and 877 00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:30,239 they're gonna hear it, Dylan has to say, and we're back. Dylan 878 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,719 lead us away. Yeah. I was gonna ask in in Ferial Road, 879 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,400 is there is there any resolution or mentioned of the Green Place. Yeah, 880 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,920 it's destroyed, but they don't know why. Okay, so I guess we 881 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:44,639 don't have that. There's no reveal yet, no destroyed it. And that's 882 00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:46,320 why I wonder, because they he says if he makes mad Max six, 883 00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,880 Furios will not be back because all mad max Is are like, he's the 884 00:54:51,199 --> 00:54:53,199 word. It's supposed to be him and Hardy making it mad Max Wasteland and 885 00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:57,079 it'll be a new story. So I guess they're just gonna leave that up 886 00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,800 to uh, the mystery of who took it out, because I thought in 887 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,519 this movie they were going to reveal who did that, but they didn't. 888 00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:05,840 So that's just I guess some other either just died out or some other faction 889 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:07,639 destroyed it. So yeah, because I feel like they didn't even really leave 890 00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:13,480 a thread open of who would have gone to do that, because all the 891 00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:21,599 crew members from Dementus's crew had died and that information never as far as we 892 00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:23,199 know traveled over to anyone else. So yeah, I guess that wouldn't really 893 00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:27,000 make any sense, which I really like that seeing that remind me a lot 894 00:55:27,039 --> 00:55:30,199 of ORCS when they were both bicker and who's going to get to tell like 895 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,679 only my lips to his ears are my words? And then poor guy gets 896 00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,679 it. Not poor guy, he's a piece of shit. But guy gets 897 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:42,599 his throats and he's trying to say the other guys thrilled, like where is 898 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,119 he in here? How do you know this information? Oh? Well the 899 00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:49,280 other guy told me, we'll break it. Yeah, So I really liked 900 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,679 the kind of standoff. You could feel like this guy was like a scrub 901 00:55:52,039 --> 00:55:54,159 and he was like trying like, oh, if I can get this information, 902 00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,760 I can get in their circle. And he didn't. He didn't get 903 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,320 there. So mm hmm, yeah, I like that. One thing I 904 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:07,920 want to jump back to the any kind of prequel sequence is I thought the 905 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,159 mom character was really fun. She was just such a badass. I think 906 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,280 she's another character like many others, who doesn't have a lot of dialogue, 907 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:21,239 but I thought her face acting was great. I just thought like showing off 908 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,159 her skills as a tracker was really great. Because obviously that we're meant to 909 00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:28,559 see that. Oh yeah, Furios picked up a lot of her skills from 910 00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:31,159 watching her mom. But just like that whole tracking sequence, which once again, 911 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,360 as we mentioned, like goes on way longer than I would have expected 912 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,840 it to. It like, it goes to night time, then we're back 913 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440 in the daytime, we have some sandstorms, we're having all this other stuff 914 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,840 going on. But I just thought the like, every once in a while, 915 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,280 like when she would get off her bike to take off the sniper, 916 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,800 I'm like, you can't be getting off your bike. You gotta keep chasing 917 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,440 them, but like it would always work out, and then when she cuts 918 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,400 the corner around the other hill to catch up with them, So shout outs 919 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,559 to that character. I thought she was, like just from the trailers, 920 00:56:59,679 --> 00:57:01,599 Yeah, thought she would maybe have two or three minutes of screen time, 921 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,719 we'd get the quick backstory and then move on. But instead I thought she 922 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,000 ended up being like a really cool, badass character. So yeah, shows 923 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,079 to her. It felt like very RPG like too, the way that she 924 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,840 was just I mean even even Dementus's crew, like anytime someone just drops someone 925 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,440 just looting his fucking bike, they're they're you know, they're stealing the tire. 926 00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:27,000 They're like they're just taking all of the rare items exchange for their basic 927 00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:30,599 items, slight upgrade of their tires, whatever it is, putting like an 928 00:57:30,679 --> 00:57:35,119 extra gas tank on on their bike or whatnot. And I mean even the 929 00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:39,000 mother character when like it was probably for you know, a disguise for sneaking 930 00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:42,559 in the camp, but when she like takes that guy's gear, I'm like, 931 00:57:42,599 --> 00:57:45,280 this is just totally reminded me of like a you just kill like a 932 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,239 Superair boss and you steal his helm and and you're going along. Uh So, 933 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,039 yeah, I completely agree with you. I thought that character was so 934 00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:55,880 bad ass, and the whole tracking stuff was was really good and a lot 935 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,239 more than I thought we were going to be getting for it. So I 936 00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:04,079 mean I already shouted out that earlier portion of just her you know, trying 937 00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:07,760 to get furios back, but yeah, it was good, and shout out 938 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,800 the other girl that was her helper at the beginning. The blonde was Chris 939 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,079 Hemsworth's wife, and I didn't know. Emily told me that the one that 940 00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,440 gets her face missed it was also Hemsworth's wife as well, So I missed 941 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:29,440 that completely because it happens yeah same lady. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 942 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,960 so they had that. But no, I agree with everything you guys 943 00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,119 said. I enjoyed the character, enjoy the sequences. I enjoyed it was 944 00:58:35,159 --> 00:58:38,159 a again it I don't know if we've we've seen some tracking, but like 945 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,880 you guys are talking about something about the tires, certain elements, I don't 946 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,880 think we've seen that in Mad Max per se that lots of the on foot 947 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,599 stuff, you know. So yeah, I enjoyed that. And then a 948 00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,960 couple characters over at the Citadel, I mean one like the bigger guy who's 949 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,559 like the strategist. I don't know what you'd call him, but just like 950 00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:00,440 having that like mask on his wiener and then he like the nipples, Uh, 951 00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:06,199 something crazy going on there. Yeah, what a character. But the 952 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,440 the leader of the camp what was his name more than Joe Morton? Joe? 953 00:59:09,519 --> 00:59:13,840 Yeah? Yeah? What's going on with his armor? Like is it 954 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,599 is it circulating something around him? Is it just visual? Like I I 955 00:59:17,639 --> 00:59:22,519 couldn't figure out what I was looking at with his Uh. I think it 956 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:27,880 is because he is younger here, so his skin isn't as bad. But 957 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,519 in Fury Road they have to put that armor on him, and before they 958 00:59:30,519 --> 00:59:34,760 put on you see a couple of shots and his skin is just like rantid, 959 00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,920 like it's bubbling. It's all act like burn damage or something. Well, 960 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,039 I think it's more in that because like like because then he had that 961 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,000 baby and it had the four legs. I think there's something internally like eating 962 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,639 away at him, like a like a wasteland by like like what is it 963 00:59:49,679 --> 00:59:52,280 in fallout when you're out there and you don't want to get the reds? 964 00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:55,119 Yeah, it'd be like that. He's equivalent of that. So I think 965 00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:58,920 right now it's not as bad. But in Furiy Road his face is more 966 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,360 messed up. So I think he probably got something and this is his like 967 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:07,840 the breathing apparatus, apparatus, the arm or all that stuff is trying to 968 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,159 help him deter stuff or keep him alive, whatever it may be. So 969 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,519 yeah, I kind of forgot about that scene with the with the baby. 970 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:21,119 Yeah that's very unfortunate. Uh four legs and then three tries in your out 971 01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:23,199 and you're just become a milker, I guess. So that was got to 972 01:00:23,199 --> 01:00:27,840 see a few of the dynamics there, and that was an interesting uh, 973 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,920 wrinkles well, because that nothing's spoken about in Fear Road and Fear Road she 974 01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,000 is just like a loyal soldier and not saying in a bad ways. It 975 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,719 doesn't break can or anything, just that she was destined to be a mother 976 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,320 and then got out of there and disguised herself as a mute boy. I 977 01:00:43,519 --> 01:00:46,480 really liked. God, what's Scross's brother? Name's he's Nathan Jones, used 978 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:52,719 to be rested. Yeah, he's he's great in Fear Road and he's great 979 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:57,519 here. And I love them showing Furros like outsmart him because he's kind of 980 01:00:57,559 --> 01:01:00,400 simple in the idea of making this wigged. She knows, hey, at 981 01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,760 some point, this guy's gonna be back and he's obsessed with my hair, 982 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,440 So what am I gonna do? Uh? And then get away. I 983 01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:09,599 think I could even use a little bit more of how she like really fasts 984 01:01:09,639 --> 01:01:14,960 herself back into the camp and everything like that, because they don't show because 985 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,639 with Fear Road, they just show all these beefed up guys and furios and 986 01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:22,360 that's the one lady and okay whatever, there has to be a reason. 987 01:01:22,679 --> 01:01:24,920 At this point there's not really many ladies around, so I know she disguises 988 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:30,239 herself as a boy, but at some point the driver comes back with a 989 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,000 girl. I thought there might have been like, oh, like she's gonna 990 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,039 be on a team, but I guess it's just he vouches for and they're 991 01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:38,880 good to go. So that was something that was different to me that I 992 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:44,400 was unsuspecting as far as but the whole origin of her kind of fake in 993 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,320 her death out of there and knitted it d that was a whole whole thing 994 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:52,119 I was not expecting. So yeah, that was like multiple times, I 995 01:01:52,119 --> 01:01:57,519 feel like they they give us something and like without much of an explanation on 996 01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:00,000 how it actually happens. I feel like that one was the one that I 997 01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:02,639 was caught on the most. Was just the fact that she was destined to 998 01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:07,360 be, you know, like one of the chastity belt wearing ladies that are 999 01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:12,320 just like really nice skin. They're basically models, Like they're just like so 1000 01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:16,559 cut from from different cloth, come amongst all the other just citizens of the 1001 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,480 citadel there that kept in a hidden chamber and everything. Yeah, and like 1002 01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,639 yeah, like literally a vault. They have a massive vault door for them, 1003 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,719 and you don't really like ever hear about him, like trying to find 1004 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:34,880 her again, like after Rictus loses her, like there's no talk about that, 1005 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:37,360 and there's never like when she comes back, it's never like, oh 1006 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,559 you remind me of of whoever? I feel like, you know, like 1007 01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,599 I kind of was able to look past it. But that was the one 1008 01:02:43,639 --> 01:02:47,480 that I got caught on the most. And I think Rictus has like one 1009 01:02:47,599 --> 01:02:52,440 quick line of like you seem familiar, but that's just when she's still like 1010 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:57,400 the mute boy and he gets distracted and yeah, exactly. And then like 1011 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,559 when she's with Preytorian Jack on the war rig, like she's just got that 1012 01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:06,960 like very nice hair, looks all nice and shampooed, and like she just 1013 01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:09,519 looks like what it is, shampooed. It looks very clean. It looked 1014 01:03:09,639 --> 01:03:14,639 very clean amongst this world, I thought. But yeah, I know that, 1015 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,639 like that one was the one I was probably caught on the most for 1016 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,679 you know, a little bit more substance to get to that answer. But 1017 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,280 yeah, it is what it is at the end of the day. M 1018 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:30,039 hm. What I'm trying to think, if there's anything on a more enjoy 1019 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:31,559 I want to talk about I could use. It sounds like a most snippick 1020 01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:35,239 I could have sound used his voice like a little deeper, like a little 1021 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,639 more rasp because but I guess that might signify how sick he is in Free 1022 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,840 Road, so I'll give him that. Yeah, I like seeing all the 1023 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,559 old guys. I like seeing the Bolt Farm. His brother, the guy 1024 01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,519 with all the that runs Bolt Farm is more jokes. He has a lot 1025 01:03:46,519 --> 01:03:51,440 of brothers. I guess that's makes sense why all the mutated people are going 1026 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:52,880 on. But yeah, it was great to see him back because he has 1027 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:58,280 a funny fame for your Road. But yeah, I liked seeing Bullet Town, 1028 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,039 and I liked seeing the because we don't really other than him put in 1029 01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:04,239 his arm in fer we don't really get to see behind in the citadel right 1030 01:04:04,239 --> 01:04:08,400 they're on the road, So I liked seeing those inner workings. It's kind 1031 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,280 of reminds me of like the stuff we like in Stars with the Cyths Invader 1032 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,039 or it's like you get to see that now. Sometimes they go too much, 1033 01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:15,599 but that's why I like this was the right amount same thing as more 1034 01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:19,400 in Joe. He was a threat here but it never became his movie or 1035 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,119 he was like a he was a villain b But on the sense of like 1036 01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:26,360 Oh, it feels like she has to take him down this movie or it's 1037 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,039 nothing. No, he helped out a few times in this movie, even 1038 01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:32,239 though he's like very you know, violent and destructive. He you know, 1039 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,599 the enemy of the enemy is my friend. So I enjoyed everything with the 1040 01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:40,119 Citadel and more in Joe, And like I said, that's that's some of 1041 01:04:40,119 --> 01:04:43,760 the stuff that for me. Actually, just Enrishi what a prequel should do 1042 01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:47,320 to me is gave me much more than I was expecting on this and it 1043 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,519 was all the right type of stuff, stuff that didn't Trumple but even stuff 1044 01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:55,719 with the wives, It's like it's things we were kind of insinuated or assumed 1045 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,519 about, but there was just a bit more specific. So that's why I'm 1046 01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:01,360 very excited for the double header on the line. So mm hmm. Yeah. 1047 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,079 I think Bullet Farm had a cool well that fight in general, I 1048 01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:10,039 guess, was another fun one, kind of a different style to other ones 1049 01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:13,159 we've seen. I don't have much sound Gas Town, but I thought it 1050 01:05:13,199 --> 01:05:15,079 had a cool look from Afar. It looked kind of like eyes and Guard, 1051 01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,079 you know, with like the big towers in the middle and then just 1052 01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:23,000 kind of like the oil patch kind of all around it with the bridge leading 1053 01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:28,000 NFL. That was that was pretty cool. And then I guess another thing, 1054 01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:32,719 just like at the end, I really like the kind of ambiguous death 1055 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:39,920 of dementis because I mean the guy the narrator, I guess character at that 1056 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,039 point. I forget what that guy's name is. He's like speculated on like, 1057 01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:45,159 oh, the different ways that he could have died. It could have 1058 01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:49,320 just been a shot. It could have been dragged through the desert, or 1059 01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:55,199 like she whispered to me that he was turned into a tree, like he 1060 01:05:55,199 --> 01:05:59,920 said in a very you know, uh, very colorful way. But man, 1061 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:05,400 and that was a really grotesque shot, really messed up. And I 1062 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,039 kind of liked that. It's like that could be what happened, but like 1063 01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:11,960 we don't really know for sure, like that, like the shot we're seen 1064 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,000 there could be as real as the other ones. So I like that ambiguity 1065 01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:20,239 of it. But that is truly a totally messed up way for someone to 1066 01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:24,480 to go because in theory, he could still be alive during Fiery Road and 1067 01:06:24,519 --> 01:06:27,079 all that. Just still think he is a little tree guy. Yeah, 1068 01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:30,119 he's this tree. Yeah. I mixed on that one. I have to 1069 01:06:30,159 --> 01:06:33,719 sit with it because I was kind of surprised. I thought they were just 1070 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,159 gonna have for I know they do this in law movies, but I thought 1071 01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:40,880 she was just gonna leave them there and to die and you know, just 1072 01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:45,119 be locked up, can't do anything. Because he got excited by the idea 1073 01:06:45,199 --> 01:06:47,559 of getting this like big death, and he even said, like make it 1074 01:06:47,559 --> 01:06:51,760 epic. So I actually didn't like the storyteller being like, oh, she 1075 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,159 could have done this and this and this. I was hoping it was just 1076 01:06:56,239 --> 01:06:59,639 and she just left him there and moved on with her life because he kep 1077 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:01,679 Now, did he want to become a tree man? Probably not, but 1078 01:07:01,719 --> 01:07:05,000 he's still got a little bit of his wish of that whole wanting to be 1079 01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:11,079 kind of an iconic status, right, And he seems like the worst torture 1080 01:07:11,719 --> 01:07:16,119 possible, it is, but I'm just saying he wanted that though, he 1081 01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:18,719 wanted to be something epic, right, So, but I don't think he 1082 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,559 wanted it to last for sixty years, you know, of course not, 1083 01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:27,880 but still like that, like in the sense of he wanted himself to become 1084 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,880 a legend. And then the storyteller end is talking about the legend of the 1085 01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,519 death of Demetrius, right, So it's like he did kind of get his 1086 01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:34,840 wish now, like I said, at the long run, yeah, he's 1087 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,960 still this tree person possibly and it probably didn't go well, but that's I 1088 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,960 was kind of surprised that she kind of let the villain get what he wanted 1089 01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,000 and end, but she's still torturing for it. So it's like, a, 1090 01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,760 it's a very bad that she left him out there because technically, yes, 1091 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:54,159 there's no confirmation. I I do like the anglelow that like he his 1092 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:59,719 body is being used to like nourish people going forward. So yeah, like 1093 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,480 turning him into I don't know, just like a cow essentially is yeah, 1094 01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:08,239 and good kind of full circle shot with the apple, you know, first 1095 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,360 one of the first shots movies. I'm grabbing it that sets him on this 1096 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,599 whole venture right as they these guys are around on the forest and whatnot. 1097 01:08:15,719 --> 01:08:20,560 So, uh, yeah, she said his name Demetrius every single time that 1098 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,960 you mentioned his name. You know, his name is in Demetrius right. 1099 01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:27,560 What is that again? Dementous dementus? Thank you. I knew it was 1100 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,159 something else, but I was just rolling with it. Now, Okay, 1101 01:08:30,279 --> 01:08:33,199 Yeah, it was like your fourth time you said that Red Dimetri changing it 1102 01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:40,479 the Great, the Red he was every time. That one's tricky. I 1103 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,680 remember fear Road though, right, that's why I'm burning the head since twenty 1104 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,960 fifteen, so I'll get dementus right there you go. That was beautiful. 1105 01:08:48,039 --> 01:08:51,239 Eventually, yeah, eventually the witness, that's what. That's why I just 1106 01:08:53,039 --> 01:08:55,760 reverted to Hempsworth. That's easy, Like I can't get that one. I 1107 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,520 know his name, but that's another thing. When I love the whole, 1108 01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,239 him trying to build up his legend. Not anytime something would happen, I'm 1109 01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,880 knowing he's like, that's my name. Now I'm I'm the Red. Oh 1110 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,880 that's I'm the Great. Oh, I'm the legendary I I And then he 1111 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,159 was at the end he was the bad or the dread it like something like 1112 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,800 but he was like I have to be mean spirited. I can't be you 1113 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,439 know, I can't give you hope and stuff. And that that's where there 1114 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,640 was some Jack sparrowisms. The whole just kind of changing on a fly, 1115 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:30,199 so that when they when they come across the First War boy with the uh, 1116 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:35,039 the flair there and then just that whole sequence was hilarious. But when 1117 01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:39,119 he just like shoots it at the ground and then everything just fills up with 1118 01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:44,319 red and then you just had dementous arms out and just like the big gross 1119 01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:46,920 teeth that they gave hims Worth with the big nose. I just love the 1120 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:49,199 look. I feel like every time I saw him, I was just laughing, 1121 01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:54,079 especially when the early stages when it goes to him just on his chariot 1122 01:09:54,199 --> 01:09:59,920 of like it's just so over the top where he has like three motorcycles holding 1123 01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:02,479 on the reins and he's like he's got his big cloak in the back and 1124 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,199 by that point he's got the like the red Beard and everything. I was 1125 01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:11,840 just I was loving him, I think for just his appearances in the most 1126 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,279 part, like I was saying earlier, he definitely like you see more of 1127 01:10:15,279 --> 01:10:17,960 the fucked up side to him. You you don't admire the guy, but 1128 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:24,279 I appreciated what he was. And yeah, Hemsworth was just great, great, 1129 01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:28,199 uh, just great to have. I feel like Chris Hemsworth. I 1130 01:10:28,279 --> 01:10:33,000 just think of Thor as his voice. So this has really helped, you 1131 01:10:33,039 --> 01:10:36,560 know, helped or diminished his overall look. In my appearance, he's just 1132 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,359 a little bit more layered now, I guess I'm an actor. Did you 1133 01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:43,399 ever see Bad Times? Yeah, he's fantastic in that, but but he 1134 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:48,239 still has the like sexy charisma and I feel like he he I guess, 1135 01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:51,239 kind of has that with just his overall physique, like he's looking really nice 1136 01:10:51,239 --> 01:10:57,039 and shredded in this movie, but just the voice, he's looking, yeah, 1137 01:10:57,119 --> 01:11:00,520 pretty ragged, but he's looking good. The voice, Yeah, very 1138 01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,720 very whiny, rasp beef come from this big beefy guy, you know, 1139 01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,560 like, oh, there's no help, Like it's just like and that's why 1140 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,840 I think they give him this oversized nose and they almost make it sound like 1141 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,079 that's why he sounds like that, because it's like all nose and stuff. 1142 01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:17,359 But he never really smiles either, like maybe a smirk here there. But 1143 01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:20,840 I feel like that Red miss he did, and Red Missy was enjoying teeth 1144 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:25,760 out why, I don't know. I did appreciate how long throughout the movie 1145 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:29,119 he had that red in his beard because like it makes sense, right, 1146 01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:31,800 like you can't wash in this universe if you get stained, and saying this 1147 01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,960 cape obviously that I love how it was white the red and then at the 1148 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,439 end it's just like this rotted black like there's still some red there, but 1149 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,359 the top half is just like pure black. And yeah, I know that 1150 01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:46,039 that was good stuff there. Even little Anya got some red in here, 1151 01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:53,840 she did. Yeah, the look cool, little d little Yeah. I 1152 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,800 mean, I mean shows to that actress too, Like we didn't really mention 1153 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,880 her necessarily, but yeah, she's a lot of a lot of screen time, 1154 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,640 not a lot of dialogue, but she does a good job of being 1155 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:08,920 that fierce child that she needs to. So Elilah Brown or Elia Brown, 1156 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:15,960 you say that, but Demetris Demetrius Brown, there you go, that's her 1157 01:12:15,039 --> 01:12:23,199 name. I thought Scrotis was really great too. We mostly focused on his 1158 01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:26,760 brother, but uh yeah, because he was in Fury Road, right, 1159 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,520 like both of those in there. I didn't think so. But when I 1160 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,960 pulled up IMDb, looks like it is he. Okay, the same actor 1161 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:42,159 that was what's his name, Strider, Striker Striker there you go from Days 1162 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:46,279 of Future Past. Oh, the young version of No, No, this 1163 01:12:46,399 --> 01:12:50,359 is wrong. You sure because that guy is a war boy, the guy 1164 01:12:50,399 --> 01:12:56,720 that plays Striker from Days of Future Past. I'm pretty sure he looks like 1165 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,319 a war boy. Yeah, I think, okay, Yeah, Nicholas Friend, 1166 01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,199 Yeah, he played slit in. Uh yeah, he's Nicholas Holt's friend, 1167 01:13:05,399 --> 01:13:09,520 and you're one hundred percent right, Yeah, you're one hundred percent right. 1168 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,399 Okay, he got He's not Scrotus, right, he is Scrotus in 1169 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,600 this movie, but not is the previous one, Okay, And Scross is 1170 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,520 a character in the other one. I thought the two brothers were in it, 1171 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,920 because there you go. There's another case of them using another actor from 1172 01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:29,720 fear Row. But that's having a prequel for a different role, So there 1173 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,479 you go. They love doing that here, because yeah, Rictus is definitely 1174 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,399 in ferior. I know is a show stealer in fear Row, and he's 1175 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:40,840 great. I had a baby brother. He's perfect every way. Imagine such 1176 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,079 a idiot, shouting Nathan Jones. I went, I went and found in 1177 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:51,399 Mad Max a name generator. So my name in the Mad Max universe is 1178 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:57,439 Devo, the Massive driver of the Homing hot Dog. Wow, that's pretty 1179 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,640 good, Macaroni. Let's put you guys in here. Yeah, you gotta 1180 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,840 put in Jesus. But top not slack jaw driver of the Magnum Opus. 1181 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,680 That's you, Travis. I like that slack jaw like the top dot. 1182 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:17,920 Yeah, that's good. M alright, let's get Kirkling here, knuckles the 1183 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:25,600 Pessimists Specialist, Driver of the Demented One. Damn, I like that. 1184 01:14:26,319 --> 01:14:29,279 And let's put Taylor in here for good measure. That's for good measure, 1185 01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:38,960 the true Blue, True Blue, the freaky driver of the Pursuit special Yeah. 1186 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,199 I'm trying to think if there is anything else, but I don't know, 1187 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:45,880 like because I just like great action sequences. But I think most of 1188 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:50,600 the character stuff I think we fit on anything I can think of. Anything 1189 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:56,000 else will table for the rankings or for golden geeks. I'm sure some stuff 1190 01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,319 will come up, but I think most the immediate things to discuss or praise 1191 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:06,600 have been done by myself as well. Did you figure out scross Gate yet? 1192 01:15:09,079 --> 01:15:12,319 Scrotis you know, confirmed if he was in Fear Road or not? 1193 01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:15,119 You were felt you were selling this false spilled goods like, oh it was 1194 01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:17,880 a different actor. And then I asked who played him in Fear Road? 1195 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,640 You gave me no answers. That's like, well, I don't just close 1196 01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:26,600 the page. After that? Was okay? That the same guy. You're 1197 01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,159 just making stuff up against some one? Serve you? Oh you didn't do 1198 01:15:29,159 --> 01:15:34,520 the prep work. Scross played by Sir Elton John. WHOA, I don't 1199 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:39,159 see scrotis, okay, so there you go, Scrotus. We don't know 1200 01:15:39,159 --> 01:15:42,560 what happened to him in between this in fear Road, so he must have 1201 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,560 passed on or maybe that'll happen, maybe we'll get another movie. So just 1202 01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,399 slid, just just slid. What a name. I'm glad you get slip. 1203 01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:55,760 I'll take slotch slack jaw over top, not slack jaw, but know 1204 01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,319 it was over slid. Uh tell most thoughts on this? Uh? Yeah, 1205 01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,680 No, this is a good discussion. I think that kind of filled 1206 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:10,000 in some blanks that I maybe had on this. But yeah, overall, 1207 01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:17,239 I think I'm gonna drop a seven point seven on this one. Yeah, 1208 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:23,199 Next Originals, I don't explain here. In Next Originals, I gotta we 1209 01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:26,880 gotta get down to how the number system came back for mister Muss. We'll 1210 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,239 do I'll be curious, yeah, mister Patz, Yeah, I'm curious, 1211 01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:34,760 mister pats Or a final rating, but ranking, because I'll say last next 1212 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:41,159 week will rank the movie, just just your rating. Yeah, It's it's 1213 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:45,399 interesting coming off of this one because like fery Road is such a well made 1214 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,560 movie, and I feel like I appreciate more and more I see it. 1215 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,520 I think I've seen it three times now, and every time I've seen I've 1216 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:57,600 liked it more. But I must say I I think I like it. 1217 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,199 It's it's weird to say, but I feel like I'm more high on this 1218 01:17:00,319 --> 01:17:03,920 one because of the theater experience with it makes sense, Yeah like it. 1219 01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:10,840 It just felt better in that sense. But uh, I think at the 1220 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,800 end of the day, if I compare the two, I probably like. 1221 01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:16,560 What this movie did was made me really want to watch Fear Road again, 1222 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,359 which is kind of funny because you pretty much get that movie in the the 1223 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:24,279 end credits if you stick around for it. You see them. That was 1224 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,640 interesting. That wasn't all a choice. It's like, we have the movie 1225 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,760 there, you don't need to show us the entire like we like, we 1226 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,199 know and stuff. And yeah, that's interesting because didn't you didn't your score 1227 01:17:34,359 --> 01:17:38,079 from Fear Road. You end up giving that a ten, right, but 1228 01:17:38,079 --> 01:17:41,800 didn't end up going like you're like a nine point You pulled the dude, 1229 01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:44,560 You're like a nine point five, and then you eventually got to ten. 1230 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,039 Or I think I did, because the first time I saw Fury Road. 1231 01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:50,279 I was like, huh, less, less that's exciting that I thought it 1232 01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:55,159 was exciting or that I was expecting to see, Like I just I think 1233 01:17:55,199 --> 01:18:00,600 I was expecting something that. I mean, it's just Mad Max Universe and 1234 01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,079 the Apocalypse, and I think at that time I hadn't seen a Mad Max 1235 01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:09,680 movie either. All I had heard about these movies was that this specific one 1236 01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:14,159 is so well made and it's so great, and obviously all the practical effects 1237 01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:15,880 and everything like I was able to appreciate, but just it was hard to 1238 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:20,600 follow the story, like you get introduced to Martin Joe and like the war 1239 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:24,560 Boys, and I was just trying to like piece together what's going on. 1240 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,159 So I was a little bit just I think, overwhelmed in that first viewing. 1241 01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:30,560 But no that yeah, that movie's at ten and ten just so well 1242 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,960 made, and this one, I think I'm gonna have to give it another 1243 01:18:33,079 --> 01:18:38,239 ten out of ten. I thought I might have to dock at some points, 1244 01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:42,640 just for like I was saying earlier, like just maybe glossing over certain 1245 01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,239 things without really spending time to like explain how or not even necessarily to explain 1246 01:18:47,279 --> 01:18:50,960 it. But I just felt like we spend a lot of time in the 1247 01:18:51,039 --> 01:18:55,800 first act, like pacing out well that it doesn't feel rushed like we are 1248 01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,479 on this whole pursuit trail that the mother has. But then there there's moments 1249 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,439 where we have like the forty day war that's over in forty seconds, or 1250 01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,359 whether it's dementous, just like fast traveling to the citadel after they mentioned that 1251 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,600 they they were like gonna have to meet with them again, and then they're 1252 01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,840 like already in the war room, like talking to them. It just felt 1253 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,279 like, I don't know, like like fast and then slow, fast and 1254 01:19:16,359 --> 01:19:21,199 then slow, And I think just the like the the stark contrast of the 1255 01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:25,039 two made it stand out. But as we were going along with the story, 1256 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,319 long winded way of saying, I was able to just kind of look 1257 01:19:28,359 --> 01:19:33,640 past it and just really fully embrace the uh, out of this world nature 1258 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:36,319 that these movies are, and yeah, this is just such a great time. 1259 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,960 I was a little bit sad that we were losing Charlie's going into this, 1260 01:19:42,119 --> 01:19:46,680 but I'm so happy that it was Anya in hindsight, just because I 1261 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,560 think because of the more younger stage of Furio, so where she's at, 1262 01:19:51,119 --> 01:19:55,920 it would have felt weird, especially knowing that this movie ends like basically the 1263 01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,920 start of Fury Road. Like, if we had in this role, it 1264 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,079 would have been weird because like, when did Feary Road come out? Was 1265 01:20:04,119 --> 01:20:09,359 it twenty fifteen? Oh my gosh, that's so much longer than I thought. 1266 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:13,039 Yeah, I thought it was closer to twenty twenty, so that would 1267 01:20:13,079 --> 01:20:15,239 have felt really jarring. I think to have her in that role. But 1268 01:20:15,319 --> 01:20:19,199 on he was fantastic. Chris Hemsweth was fantastic. Yeah, it was a 1269 01:20:19,279 --> 01:20:23,680 long way of saying I love this movie. There you go. Yeah, 1270 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,479 ten and ten for me as well. I think I have some minor quabbles. 1271 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,439 I don't think there's anything to bringing down because is the highs are so 1272 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,760 high. I love the world building, the action and sequences are fantastic. 1273 01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,960 I level the character motivations, all the acting is great. All star performance 1274 01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,399 by Hempsworth. I just uh yeah, I just think he went up there 1275 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,760 and killed it, because I think there's a version of that character that could 1276 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:49,640 just be very annoying and very I won't say lame, but just one note 1277 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,239 what I mean by one notice he is a bad guy, but I mean 1278 01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:56,079 like the performance wise, I think he brings a lot to that. There's 1279 01:20:56,079 --> 01:20:59,479 a lot of actors that could have played that character and it gone just kind 1280 01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,119 of oh yeah, it's all right. And I don't think Mad Max is 1281 01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,920 well known for its great villains. I think it more and Joe's great in 1282 01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,800 Fear Road, but that's just because he looks imposing and he and it's the 1283 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,920 idea of a more in Joe like this, you know whatever. I won't 1284 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,560 say more because we got rankings, but I will teach from a rankings that 1285 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,720 this movie made me very question of, like I don't know where I got 1286 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,840 Max and where I got Furios. I added, this added a lot more 1287 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:27,199 to me for Furio, So I think this uh even more tragic backstory than 1288 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,920 what we had gone in Fear Road. But I think they they earned for 1289 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,079 the characters. So yeah, I know a ten and ten for me as 1290 01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:35,239 well. Loved it. I'm looking very forward to watch as many times. 1291 01:21:35,279 --> 01:21:38,119 Like I said that, this will be kind of like Lord of the Rings, 1292 01:21:38,119 --> 01:21:41,199 where I'll say when I do the extended, I usually can't watch them 1293 01:21:41,239 --> 01:21:44,159 all in a day, but usually try to say this that a weekend that'll 1294 01:21:44,199 --> 01:21:46,039 be like this where you know kids are going or something that me and Ale 1295 01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:49,880 will set aside a time, and I think that's almost a good thing that 1296 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,520 Fear Furiosa is. It has its hog o tamos, but it is a 1297 01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,399 bit slower. So because I wonder if you were to watch Fear Road and 1298 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,640 this back to back in ferios was also just pedal to the medal two and 1299 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:02,520 a half hours of just to Chase, you'd be like, man, this 1300 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:06,000 is a lot, but I like that this is like a really nice you 1301 01:22:06,079 --> 01:22:09,399 know, just build up to it. I'll definitely skip the credits though, 1302 01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,000 so I don't have to see all that again and then just jump into the 1303 01:22:12,039 --> 01:22:15,039 movie. So there he goes a Jon. We have done it. We 1304 01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:18,800 reviewed Furiosa. I don't know what our next big review is, Like, 1305 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:23,359 I know, we got like Deadpool coming up, Like there's places in a 1306 01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,640 few weeks, yes, and June there, I think, So let's see. 1307 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,159 I think you're right, that's in twenty seven, so it's like a 1308 01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,520 month away. Oh WOWK, yeah, I guess we're gonna Yeah, we're 1309 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,239 going to the TV show Purgatory, which I love. But we got the 1310 01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:40,159 Boys Act Light and then soon House to Drain as well too, so that's 1311 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,560 a lot of TV show reviews there, so movies take a little break. 1312 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:47,600 But then June you got Quiet Place, Twisters apparently, fuck yeah, dead 1313 01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:54,640 Pool three? You know, Maxine long Legs, lots of crazy. Are 1314 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,840 you coming to Twisters, Travis? I could ask you that too, TV 1315 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,199 TV you, Taylor and I were getting crazy and talking about doing a one 1316 01:23:02,239 --> 01:23:06,279 movie retro for for the first one. But we'll see who signs up on 1317 01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:11,319 that sheet. Yeah, I'd be convinced to do that. The retro. 1318 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,079 I was gonna say, the retro is easy, that's at home. But 1319 01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,399 yeah, it just depends because yeah, if if I see all those movies, 1320 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:24,880 it goes Quiet Place, Maxine Long Legs, and then Twisters, Deadpool 1321 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,119 three. I think Twisters might be my break because I have much more as 1322 01:23:29,159 --> 01:23:33,079 Twisters on with the nineteenth Is it with another movie? Though? Is another 1323 01:23:33,199 --> 01:23:36,479 movie? Yeah? So? But and I know at that point I'll have 1324 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:41,279 to see tospicle Me. Oh yeah, since despicle Me four will be out 1325 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,920 July fourth, and I don't know when in said out that's coming out soon 1326 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:48,800 too, So yeah, Twisters just by proxy might get the boot, but 1327 01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:55,199 who knows. Maybe it's great. I like Dizzy Edgar, like Glyn if 1328 01:23:55,199 --> 01:23:57,720 I'm on that review. It's because Emily made me go see it because she's 1329 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,520 a massive fan of the original, so it's Emily and life dependent. So 1330 01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,359 lots of good reviews coming up here in the Geek. First, thank you 1331 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,119 very much, hope everyone has a good weekend. We'll be back next week 1332 01:24:08,319 --> 01:24:10,960 and won't be boring. Bye. Mine,