WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:04.679 Thank you for choosing to download the Ham Radio two point zero audio podcast rip. 2 00:00:05.280 --> 00:00:09.039 This is the audio taken out of a video or a live stream I 3 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:13.039 did recently. You can catch all my videos on YouTube Ham Radio two point 4 00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:18.280 zero and catch us live every Sunday night at seven pm Central Standard Time for 5 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:22.519 a different topic each week. Thank you for the support and thank you for 6 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:36.880 being a member of the community. All right, where is k m r 7 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.560 D when I need some windows bashing guys going on? So yeah, that's 8 00:00:42.560 --> 00:00:46.920 the thing. Hey, thanks for joining us tonight, Noel, good to 9 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:52.520 see in the chat, buddy. My wife is in the chat and appreciate 10 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.439 you guys joining us tonight. We're going to be talking about Winter field Day, 11 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.679 which is in two weekends. I said that to somebody earlier on a 12 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.560 tech They're like, two weekends, Is that all? I'm like, Yeah, 13 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:07.079 it's two weekends to winterfield Day, buddy. It was Christmas like seven 14 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.640 hours ago and uh and it's Winter field Day in two weeks. So that's 15 00:01:11.680 --> 00:01:15.120 the thing. So thank you for joining us tonight. Ham Radio two point 16 00:01:15.200 --> 00:01:17.959 zero Sunday Night live stream. We got a cool live stream plan for you 17 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:22.079 tonight. I got several of the folks from the winter Field Day Board, 18 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:25.719 of which I am a member. I don't really contribute that much because I'm 19 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:29.599 lazy, but I got several people from the board coming on tonight, so 20 00:01:29.640 --> 00:01:33.200 it should be really good stream. Let me uh, let me say a 21 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:36.359 couple things. First. Number one, if you're on my email list, 22 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:42.959 you saw that the gigaparts Explore Delexe battery box is still on sale for twenty 23 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:47.640 dollars off seventy nine bucks right there. I'm gonna share this link in the 24 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:52.239 chat right now, and you can get an additional five percent off off of 25 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.439 the sales price with the coupon code of KC five HTV. So that's what 26 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:00.239 a bus four dollars, another four dollars off. So they were supposed to 27 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:04.280 put this back up to the normal price of ninety nine dollars at the end 28 00:02:04.319 --> 00:02:07.439 of December, and it's still there. So don't tell them it's been two 29 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:10.479 weeks. They haven't. They haven't. I haven't done it yet, so 30 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.479 but that's a thing. But if you didn't get my emailed, then sign 31 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.840 up for my email list. Ham Radio two dot com forward slash email Dash 32 00:02:16.879 --> 00:02:23.280 sign up. We've got about about eighteen thousand people on the email list right 33 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:27.120 now, and when it gets to twenty thousand, we're gonna be doing another 34 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:32.240 HF radio giveaway, so that's gonna be a thing. So appreciate everybody signing 35 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:38.840 up on that email list. It is. It is. Uh, it's 36 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:40.879 kind of weird because I have a couple hundred people sign up a week, 37 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:46.439 but then I have like fifty to one hundred people unsubscribe, So it's not 38 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:53.000 it doesn't go up, you know, kind of linearly, linearly, linearly. 39 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:55.080 It doesn't do that linearly. K six A r K in the house. 40 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:58.919 What's up, Adam? Good to uh good to see in the chat 41 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:04.439 tonight. Buddy worked at him on we were activating PODA and Adam was out 42 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:07.680 there actually on sideband. Believe it or not, Adam's big CW guy, 43 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.960 So thanks for being the chat tonight Adam Special. Shout out to the folks 44 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:15.080 in Green Text and the Chat YouTube channel members. I see Arthur in there, 45 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:22.400 Tommy K I five U T S of course N five S K T 46 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:25.840 is in there, Wayne Johnson, Gray Man, Poda, Hamry Crusader, 47 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.280 Freddie Mack. What's up, buddy, Good to see you. H Scott 48 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.759 Ham rated from nine techies and the inn there. Hopefully you're gonna come do 49 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:38.719 field Day with the winterfield Day with us Scott Matthew, Katie nine WSD A 50 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:43.919 A zero m Andy. Every time I put up a new mystery box, 51 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.919 Andy buys the first one. I'm not saying that's good or bad. I'm 52 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.599 just saying that's what happens. So you know, there we go. H 53 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:54.759 what's up, Adam? Thanks for being here tonight, buddy, Appreciate that, 54 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:59.520 appreciates your your support there. All right, let's uh, let's switch 55 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:04.840 over here and see who's in the chat. I got to get the right 56 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:09.759 screen up. Let's take that away and let's do this, and let's do 57 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:13.759 that. Unmute. What's up, guys, How are y'all? Good? 58 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.319 Evening? Marvin and Melinda are from the Winter field Day Board, and of 59 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:23.240 course everybody knows Frank. But what's up, Marvin? How are you? 60 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.000 Buddy? I'm good, hanging in here from Massachusetts. Supposed to get a 61 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.120 little bit of snow overnight, but a little bit more coming on Tuesday, 62 00:04:30.160 --> 00:04:32.240 so I think I will definitely have a little winter by the time Winter field 63 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:38.000 Day comes around. So what is the temperature right now it was about twenty 64 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.199 five to thirty degrees. Oh my god, it's fifteen degrees all day here 65 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.680 in Texas that we are not prepared for this? No you like, Oh 66 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.800 my god, this is not this is not fair. It's literally been fifteen 67 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:55.120 degrees fifteen degrees all day in North Texas today. Say your own. I'm 68 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:58.959 prepared, man, I got all my batteries, charts. I guess well, 69 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:00.879 I'm stock up on fo Okay, yeah, no, no, no, 70 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.079 no, we're there. Yeah, I am prepared, But I still 71 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.399 hate it. I hate the cold weather. I don't like it. I'm 72 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:11.279 secretly hoping to lose power for two hours two hours tomorrow so I could throw 73 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:15.920 the radio up in the backyard and get the best noise floor at my Oh 74 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.600 yes, you know, you can turn your breaker off and do that anytime 75 00:05:18.600 --> 00:05:21.879 you want to, Franks, But that doesn't affect my neighbors across the street. 76 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:28.000 That's true, Paddles, the true. The crappy LED's my other neighbor 77 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.759 has. Yep, yep, that's perfect true, very true, very true. 78 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:38.959 Melinda, how are you tonight? Good, good evening. Y'all were 79 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:43.839 waiting on the snow to get to us. We're at right now, Chad 80 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:48.160 move and they're cop for about three or four inches of snow between tonight and 81 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:55.639 wow. Very cool. Well, I mean I like the snow, but 82 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.600 I don't like the ice. And most of the time, when in North 83 00:05:58.600 --> 00:06:01.639 Texas, when it gets this cold and it doesn't snow very often, it's 84 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:05.120 usually just ice, which means that people don't know how to drive on it, 85 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.199 and a bunch of res and just stay home and don't do anything. 86 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:12.319 So that's kind of how it is. Last I saw, we are lucky. 87 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:16.120 The participation of rain that's supposed to happen tonight has disappeared off the radar. 88 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:21.600 Correct correct correct, Yep, that is true, so yep, but 89 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.720 we'll see what We'll see what happens with that. So well, Marvin and 90 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:30.720 Melinda, thank you for joining tonight. I'm watching the h I think Michael's 91 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:33.800 supposed to be here as well, so I'm watching the participants view in. 92 00:06:34.199 --> 00:06:38.920 Frank, I'm gonna give you I'll watch it too, co host just in 93 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.079 case anyone. If anyone joins, just let him in. It's fine. 94 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:48.519 So Frank and I and Mike, Kat Demurdy and Mike in eight yo and 95 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:54.759 digital rancher Rob probably and maybe Nol Nol, I never got a confirmation from 96 00:06:54.839 --> 00:07:00.439 you, buddy, and who else maybe Scott K five n PL him Radio 97 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.279 for Non Techy's. We're gonna do winterfield Day in Galveston and it's probably still 98 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.279 going to be cold, Texas cold. It's going to be in like the 99 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:12.879 forties, and but we're gonna do winterfield Day in Galveston. We're gonna do 100 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:16.920 it from the state park, Galveston Island State Park. I saw someone ask 101 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:21.639 in the chat before the stream started about whether we could talk about how it 102 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:26.959 works to do winterfield Day from an actual POTUS spot. So we'll get into 103 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:29.279 that, So you guys stay tuned for that. We will, because that's 104 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:31.959 what we're doing this year. We're going to activate as our club call from 105 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:38.680 a PODA park Winter field Day and I'll explain how we're gonna do it and 106 00:07:38.680 --> 00:07:42.639 and we'll go from there. So but yeah, Marvin, I'm gonna let 107 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.439 you have the floor, buddy, you can. I know there's been some 108 00:07:45.560 --> 00:07:48.959 changes in the rules. I read through them, but I don't have him 109 00:07:49.000 --> 00:07:54.600 memorized. So if you want to talk about what the different rules are between 110 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.399 this year and last year, basically, just what's changed in the last twelve 111 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:01.759 months. Do you can do that? And then I'm sure you get a 112 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.959 lot of emails about various things, so you know, pick out the top 113 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:09.079 one or two or three questions you get and we can talk about that and 114 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.879 kind of discuss them from there. Absolutely, So thanks Jason, I appreciate 115 00:08:13.879 --> 00:08:16.439 you letting us to be on the show this evening and TIG time part of 116 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:22.720 your time for this. But the major change from this year is getting rid 117 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:31.399 of the bonus points and making them objectives, and some of those objectives being 118 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:37.320 operating on alternative power, making a satellite contact, setting up a win link, 119 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.519 operating for more than six hours. I believe there's ten of them out 120 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:45.039 there this year, and your goal is to go out and hopefully accomplish all 121 00:08:45.039 --> 00:08:50.039 ten of those and the you know, out of that, you can check 122 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:54.480 those boxes when you submit your LUG and then you can get your score of 123 00:08:54.480 --> 00:08:58.159 like seventy per one hundred percent whatever you did, and there's little icons that 124 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:03.320 will have associate each of those on this year's certificate that we're creating. So 125 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:09.440 that's probably the biggest change of them all. And then you know, we've 126 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:15.440 kept a lot of things for like or what power limits still we QRP is 127 00:09:15.480 --> 00:09:20.480 ten wats or less. And I'm trying to think some of the other major 128 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:24.360 things that we've done. I think that's really about it. We brought all 129 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:28.360 the contest logging in house, and so we're taking care of all that on 130 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:33.200 our side. We're not sitting to contest dot com anymore. And you know, 131 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.320 of course winterfield Day will be January twenty seventh and twenty eighth this year, 132 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.480 so you're right in just two weeks here, so you still have the 133 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:45.960 twelve hour well no more than twelve hours twenty four our prep time in advance, 134 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.240 we still have that capable. So but those are you know, the 135 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:54.919 major things. I would say, just go out and read our guidelines for 136 00:09:56.279 --> 00:09:58.120 twenty twenty four. You can find them on our site winterfield Day dot Com 137 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.600 under the the rules page and they're down just just the short ways down the 138 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.960 page. Highlight and read. So okay, and then some of our major 139 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:11.879 questions that we've gotten. We don't really get this too much. I think 140 00:10:11.879 --> 00:10:15.639 people have kind of come to understand that, you know, we're trying to 141 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:20.279 make this more from a not necessarily a contest platform, but putting it into 142 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:26.759 a more of an event and and putting this into a communications exercise, which 143 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:33.159 is what our whole model or or our vision is is that we you know, 144 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.159 want to help you increase your level of preparedness for disasters and improve you 145 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.039 know, your operational skills in the subpart conditions kind of you know, that's 146 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:43.600 what we say. And so you know, people have come to understand this 147 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.080 is not going to be about making just thousands and thousands of contacts out there, 148 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.120 and what's really about trying to improve your income and winter field your your 149 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:58.519 your field skills. And so people there's still have questions about you know, 150 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:01.279 having whether why do we have bone points and then others are talking about FT 151 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:05.279 four and FT eight. We still get a few of those coming out there. 152 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.639 And again those two things just don't really meet the criteria or the sniff 153 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:18.799 test for transferring or transmitting messages, uh for you know, for emergency situation. 154 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.159 So that's why we don't we don't have it. And there's lots of 155 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:28.039 other methods like js A call and r T T Y and PSK thirty one 156 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:31.240 FL digit, So I mean there's other alternatives you can use, and if 157 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:33.799 you haven't learned them, and now this is a good reason why you can 158 00:11:33.879 --> 00:11:37.399 go learn them instead of using just FT four FT eight as a digital mode. 159 00:11:37.639 --> 00:11:41.960 So is JSA call legal for I mean, I say legal, Is 160 00:11:41.000 --> 00:11:45.080 it allowed? Now that's been that's been allowed. Yep, that's still been 161 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:48.399 authorized. We've been using that for a couple of years. Okay, then 162 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:52.120 I'm remembering wrong. I was thinking that last year we had a meeting that 163 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.000 said that there was one maybe it was maybe it's true three years ago. 164 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.360 Man, I don't know, but we had a meeting one time that said, 165 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.279 uh that. I was like, well, JSA call you can actually 166 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:05.399 send because I understand your reasoning behind FT eight because it's just a five nine 167 00:12:05.440 --> 00:12:09.799 five nine seventy three goodbye. There's not really a messaging element behind it. 168 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:15.679 But JSA call uses the same protocol computer pro CAOL transmission protocol, and you 169 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:18.360 can actually send keyboard to keyboard messages that you can you know, it's it's 170 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:22.960 free form text. So I was thinking that that was not allowed last year. 171 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:28.519 But maybe I'm remembering that wrong. So yeah, so you're saying even 172 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:31.879 our friend came for a c K runs j S eight during winterfield Day primarily 173 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.879 because there's a lot more people using winterfield during Winter field Day. A lot 174 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.559 more people use JS eight than they will during the summerfield Day. So it's 175 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.519 just not very popular during summer fild Day, but during the winter popular winterfield 176 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.240 Day, it's it's quite popular. Actually good, well, good, that's 177 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:48.840 that's actullent. Okay, I I I was simply remembering that wrong then, 178 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.519 So okay, that's good. Uh. Mike into m a Ca says the 179 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.559 winterfield Day additional objectives are fantastic and a great way to encourage everyone to get 180 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.960 out there and tried different bands, antennas and more. It's an awesome way 181 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:07.600 to learn. I I like the whole field Day winterfield Day experience overall. 182 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.000 I always have, so thanks Mike for being in the chat today. But 183 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:15.840 good, hey, you know what jas call is fun? It's uh. 184 00:13:15.919 --> 00:13:18.440 I had what's the guy's name who invented that? I can't remember his name 185 00:13:18.519 --> 00:13:26.039 right now. Jordan, Yeah, he was on the channel three or four 186 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:28.080 years ago, and I need to get him back on here. I've emailed 187 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.360 him a couple of times. I haven't I haven't connected with him yet. 188 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.679 But uh, but Jays calls a fun mode because it uses the same protocol 189 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.919 as FT eight, but it opens up a keyboard to keyboard experience, so 190 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:39.559 you can actually type a message. You can say, hey, mud duck, 191 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:43.639 what are you doing tonight or whatever you want to say? Right a 192 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.759 little little cebe lingo in there. But uh yeah, it's it's it's good. 193 00:13:46.759 --> 00:13:50.480 So okay, so we're we might uh we might try to do some 194 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.440 uh j s call during this uh this year's event. So that's great. 195 00:13:54.639 --> 00:14:00.200 I I was just remembering that wrong apparently, So okay, yeah, and 196 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:01.440 we can get into a little bit later here, but I'll talk about some 197 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:05.639 of the stats of what we had for twenty twenty three. And you know, 198 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.919 we're trying to get people, you know, out the door and get 199 00:14:07.919 --> 00:14:11.759 them out there outside the box to just not operate from home, because what 200 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:16.360 we're finding is while home is our most popular category, but users are only 201 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.440 working about four point four hours. The people who go out and set up 202 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:24.200 a station and spend the time setting up in tanta trailer whatever it might be, 203 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.960 getting the heat and what not to work, they spend a lot more 204 00:14:28.960 --> 00:14:31.960 time operating on total number of hours than want people do at home. So 205 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.080 which is good too for us. So let me step in here real fast. 206 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:41.120 I've seen this a couple of times in the chat. When is Winter 207 00:14:41.159 --> 00:14:46.320 field Day? Exactly? What are the days of operation? And so it 208 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.399 starts on Oh, go ahead, Jason ahead. It starts nineteen hundred hours 209 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:58.320 on Saturday UTC and goes to eighteen fifty nine UTC on Sunday. So twenty 210 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:05.080 seven to twenty nineteen hundred UTC, the twenty seventh to almost nineteen hundred, 211 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.559 so is eighteen fifty nine UTC on the twenty eighth. So it follows if 212 00:15:09.559 --> 00:15:13.879 you if you guys have ever done regular field day a double orol field day, 213 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:20.320 we'll call it. It's uh, it's it's yeah, that's the same 214 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:22.600 thing. So I'm thinking in Texas time right now, it's one it's always 215 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.600 one pm on Saturday to one pm on Sunday. It's the last weekend of 216 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.879 June. That's that's a double l field day. So winterfield Day is six 217 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.799 months later, last weekend of January one pm Texas time Saturday to one pm 218 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:41.200 Texas Time Sunday, which is we're UTC my six. So so yeah, 219 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:46.960 nineteen hundred UTC on Saturday to nineteen hundred or eighteen fifty nine u TC on 220 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:52.759 Sunday, so that'd be that'd be two pm East Coast time and UH and 221 00:15:54.559 --> 00:16:00.240 eleven am West Coast time Saturday the twenty seventh to UH Sunday for twenty four 222 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:04.200 hours for solid twenty four hours to Sunday the twenty eighth. So that's what 223 00:16:04.240 --> 00:16:10.519 it is to show as usually is it Marvin? Remind me is it always 224 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.440 the last weekend or is it always the fourth weekend because that can vary depending 225 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.759 on when the dates fall. I we have it written as it's the last 226 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:25.080 weekend in January every year, so and I do want to come back to 227 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:26.879 this one second. I see a question in the chat as well. Michael 228 00:16:27.000 --> 00:16:30.639 W. A MJL, thanks for asking this question. Did I see that 229 00:16:30.679 --> 00:16:36.799 we can now submit logs with adif that is absolutely correct, We're taking our 230 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:41.480 database manager on our website site has been able to take those files, partse 231 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.399 the data and put them into the cabrilla format and use the same data that 232 00:16:45.519 --> 00:16:49.120 would be submitted as a Cabrillo file. The other thing is that's kind of 233 00:16:49.159 --> 00:16:55.919 handy on our website that we've created for you guys out there participating Winter Field 234 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:00.120 Day is the ability to take a paper log, come back to our web 235 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:03.000 site, enter it manually on there, and then it will export that data 236 00:17:03.079 --> 00:17:07.759 also and submit the log and then you'll get your certificate as an email when 237 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.559 you submit your log. That's how you're going to get your certificate this year, 238 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:14.079 or that's how we did last year as well. So so yeah, 239 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:21.279 excellent, excellent. So okay, okay, Andrew, if I use hammers 240 00:17:21.279 --> 00:17:23.400 for logging, how do I convert the ad F files to Carillo? I 241 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:29.960 would download a piece of software that's free called ad if Master and it will 242 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:32.640 do. It will do, and you could just google ad i F to 243 00:17:32.799 --> 00:17:34.839 Cabrillo. There's websites that will do it for you. Just upload your ad 244 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.279 i F and it pulls it down to Carilla. Well, if you do 245 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:44.640 support ad i F files, now you don't have to just export, yeah, 246 00:17:44.880 --> 00:17:48.759 and just straight upload, so you don't have to straight upload. We 247 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.319 are probably in the past we have used with our club. We've used in 248 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:57.880 three f j P, which has an actual winter field day template. That's 249 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:03.480 very it's it's very good piece of software. And somebody had asked about PODA 250 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.400 earlier and Don in five SKT had said that the richard and Wireless Club is 251 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.759 going to do winterfield Day from a park. I think that's the park out 252 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:19.279 there in the spring off a Spring Creek drive in the one actually in Richardson. 253 00:18:19.480 --> 00:18:22.240 It's a small park that's out there. So we're gonna do K and 254 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.240 five TR is who will be operating us K in five tr and we're going 255 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:33.319 to do winterfield Day from the State Park in Galveston Island. And the way 256 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:36.799 that works in a nutshell is you take all your winterfield Day logs and you 257 00:18:36.799 --> 00:18:38.880 log it as winterfield Day. Just do winterfield Day. And then you take 258 00:18:38.920 --> 00:18:45.160 those same exact logs and you upload it to Poda Dot app and you upload 259 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:51.400 it as and make sure you're logging yourself correctly if you're well. If if 260 00:18:51.400 --> 00:18:53.119 you're an individual, then it doesn't matter. But if you're a club like 261 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:57.160 we are, then in the club, in the logging software it'll be there 262 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:00.480 will be a field for club call sign, the field for activator call sign. 263 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:03.559 You make sure you fill those out properly, and then when you upload 264 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:08.079 that log to PoTA dot app, it will give the club credit and it 265 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:12.519 will give you the operator credit. So that's the cool thing about Poda is 266 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:17.160 you can you can activate as a club and you, the individual operator, 267 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.720 gets the same exact credit that the club call gets. So Noel, I 268 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.000 know you're listening right now, Buddy, I hope that you have had I 269 00:19:23.000 --> 00:19:26.680 don't. I haven't talked to you about it since June of last year. 270 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.200 But we need to get can five tr on the PoTA website. If you 271 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:33.200 haven't done that yet, you're the call sign trustee, Bud. I need 272 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.400 you to do that before two weeks from now. So I know this is 273 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:41.240 a not on topic, but PoTA needs to fix that upload logs on behalf 274 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:45.920 so not only one person can do it. Well no, no, no, 275 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.680 I agree with that. I agree with the whole upload log one person 276 00:19:48.720 --> 00:19:52.039 can do it because then anyone could come in there and upload a I mean, 277 00:19:52.039 --> 00:19:56.400 somebody has to be the call sign trustee, right, So that's just 278 00:19:56.480 --> 00:19:59.599 that's how ham radio has worked. That's that's how Hamm Radio has worked for 279 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:00.720 a long long time. So I agree with that point. But yeah, 280 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.480 you're right at soft topics, so we'll go from there. But yeah, 281 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.559 I know of a couple of I know of a couple of people who said 282 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.920 they're going to operate winter Field day from a park, so we're gonna double 283 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.240 whammy that thing, actually triple whammy because we get winterfield day logs, club 284 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.160 logs and individual logs for PODA, So it's gonna be. It's gonna be 285 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:22.039 I've never done it. We've never done that before. We've always operated from 286 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.160 up here at the Hunting Lease, and that's always been really fun. So 287 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:29.119 I know that I know it's gonna be fun. I'm gonna interest to see 288 00:20:29.119 --> 00:20:32.799 how it goes. So I see a couple of the questions, Jason, 289 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:33.680 I just wanted to see if I an a dress for victims, and people 290 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:40.119 were asking about the One person asked, do we have like a favorite logging 291 00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:44.440 software? And I would say N three f JP is the absolute probably best. 292 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.960 Now, I will also put hammers out there has a winter field Day 293 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.960 section in their log as well, and that they do a great job as 294 00:20:51.960 --> 00:20:56.240 well for that. But N three h AP is probably by far, by 295 00:20:56.440 --> 00:21:00.359 far our most popular logging soft where and then the thing is, well, 296 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.119 I want you to make sure people go out and do though we'll see people 297 00:21:03.200 --> 00:21:07.599 like I don't know, Let's say he has the one dot two and the 298 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.240 latest software is two dot zero two whatever and people will still be using the 299 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:15.160 one dot zero two. They're not updating to our latest software, and so 300 00:21:15.200 --> 00:21:18.920 we'll have fifteen versions of N three f JP submitted. So please go out 301 00:21:18.920 --> 00:21:22.559 and update your legs latest software. I don't care if you're using any one 302 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.640 MM or the latest update to Hammers or in three f JP, r Hanmerrate 303 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:30.079 or Deluxe, whatever you want to use, just go out and get the 304 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.000 latest software for it so it's up to date. That helps us on our 305 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:36.640 end. And then the other person asked about a winter field day. Do 306 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.000 we have like a swag and gear if you go out to if you go 307 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:44.480 out to clubgear online dot com and you can find that via our website under 308 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:48.799 resources, or if you go into our newsletter, you'll see in their clubgear 309 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:53.480 Online and JSE clubgear online has usually w fours should be on here. He's 310 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:56.960 on our board. He's the owner of that. But we have mousepads, 311 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.640 we have great coffee mugs, we've got flat we have a great flag. 312 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:04.440 There's some great gear out there. Someone yeah, to see the big flag. 313 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:07.400 Jacents just bringing up there. You can put a huge flag out there 314 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.799 so we can do different, so he can he can do different sizes and 315 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:18.240 it's awesome, so I should totally order that. Hopefully, hopefully he has 316 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.400 those ready to go. I believe he does, so okay, good, 317 00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.599 I'll order one of those tonight or tomorrow then and we'll hang it up. 318 00:22:23.839 --> 00:22:26.559 We were we were at the pavilion. We're going to rent a pavilion at 319 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:32.359 the state park for for winterfield Day, and we were there last week operating 320 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:36.640 Poda railroad poda and the wind was up and I told Frank, I was 321 00:22:36.680 --> 00:22:38.279 like, we need to remember to bring some tarp, some some some seat, 322 00:22:38.440 --> 00:22:42.240 some alligator clamps to put a tarp up on one side if there's wind. 323 00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.440 Because it's on the beach, there's always going to be wind, so 324 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:48.119 we could put a flag up easily there. So that's what we should do. 325 00:22:48.200 --> 00:22:51.920 So, yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, put it up 326 00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:56.960 there with all our masks and everything. Well, the mass mass will be 327 00:22:56.960 --> 00:23:00.400 in the field man. So yeah, club gear online dot Com is Oh, 328 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:03.319 thank you, Frank, I was gonna share I say the same thing. 329 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.920 Yeah, thanks, thank thanks for taking care of that man. Awesome, 330 00:23:10.039 --> 00:23:12.279 that's good stuff. You guys will be at ham Cash next uh in 331 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.799 next month? Is that correct? Yeah? Well, Michael Michael Michael will 332 00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:22.000 be there. I'm actually gonna be down there too, but I'll be down 333 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:25.799 there as the Ham Radio Guy podcast, So I'll be down I'll be visiting 334 00:23:25.799 --> 00:23:27.640 as well. Good Okay, you guys were there, Lad there was a 335 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:33.559 Winter field Day. Was it in a winterfield Day a table at at ham 336 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:36.680 cashon last year or was that Hontale? Nope, that was a Huntsville we 337 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:38.079 did that. That was a hunts I'm thinking Huntsville. Okay, Okay, 338 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.839 you guy, I did that Huntsville. Okay, all right. So yeah, 339 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:47.359 so Ham Cash or yeah, second biggest tanfest in the nation, ham 340 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:52.400 Cation is next month. Winterfield Day will have a table yes at ham Cashion. 341 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.319 We won't no, okay, no, okay, because it's really it's 342 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.279 kind of almost after the fact, and they, yeah, I quite honest, 343 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:03.599 they kind of want to charge us a lot of money for that. 344 00:24:03.759 --> 00:24:07.920 So we did get an advertisement up on qurez dot com. They were able 345 00:24:07.920 --> 00:24:10.160 to give us a little bit of a deal there. So we do have 346 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:15.839 some advertisements going out in different ways and trying to push some more social media 347 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:19.079 and whatnot as well. Okay, okay, yeah, you're right. That 348 00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:22.839 is kind of like almost. That's like two weeks after the fact, so 349 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:26.640 I guess, you know, if it was in if ham Cash was in 350 00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:33.519 like uh, you know, March, then that'd be great. But yeah, 351 00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:36.000 maybe not so okay, all right, all right, I think we're 352 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:38.559 going to try to do Huntsville this year and then New England. Ham Fest 353 00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:42.440 is the weekend after the twenty third through the twenty sixth or something up in 354 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:45.079 New England, and I'll be at that one. Now I live up in 355 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:48.119 this New England area and I'll have a booth up there for that. So 356 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:53.920 is that the one they call nears Yes, okay, near Fest or something 357 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:57.119 like that. Yes, that's great. It's called it's called ham Exposition. 358 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:00.319 I think now they've changed the names of it wreck. Yeah, okay. 359 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.559 I've always wanted to go to that, would never have been to it, 360 00:25:03.640 --> 00:25:06.279 so okay, Well, she'll be excited the show. Let you know how 361 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:10.119 it goes, all right, Well, or maybe I'll just go there you 362 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:15.400 go? Why not, Melinda? What's up? I don't want you to 363 00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:18.480 be quiet the whole stream? So what's going on? Your role? That 364 00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:26.640 much? We actually Winifield Day was at the ted Ndaham Fest last so we 365 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:30.720 did set up as well as Huntsville, so that was a great opportunity to 366 00:25:30.799 --> 00:25:36.680 kind of get Winterfield Day out there. I'm sorry, I have a nosy 367 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:38.880 bird. Is that what that is? I thought that was feedback from the 368 00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:45.079 microphone. I'm like, okay, he's a due yellow headed amazon. He's 369 00:25:45.119 --> 00:25:49.480 twenty six and oh wow, when I talk, he thinks he needs to 370 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:52.519 talk. So yeah, of course I think he just laughed Adjason. In 371 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:57.759 fact, yeah, probably did, probably did. Yeah, Oh my goodness, 372 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:00.359 that's that's funny. Those birds are great, though, Those birds are 373 00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:06.200 fun so well good, well, hey, thank you for being on the 374 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:08.240 stream tonight. But yeah, I feel free to chime in any anytime you 375 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:11.359 want to, Melinda, don't uh, don't let us hog the conversation. 376 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:18.839 Well thanks, I've actually got Met Lauger going up watching the Sunday Night Net 377 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.480 on Met Lauger and the A. I M so I'm kind of multitasking here. 378 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:27.160 Good, awesome, Yeah, del Fergus says, what's the bird's call 379 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:37.480 sign? I think his name is Dexter. So it's a great name, 380 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:41.720 Dexter. One of my favorite TV shows ever, Dexter. So just thinking, 381 00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:45.720 yeah, I know, I know, yeah, great awesome, Thank 382 00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:52.480 you, thank you, Melinda. Okay, good. So so what else? 383 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.039 So do you have any stats for us from last year? Marvin? 384 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.519 I think, okay, yeah, go ahead with that if you if you 385 00:26:59.559 --> 00:27:03.640 want to talk about that real quick. So what we find interesting is that 386 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.440 we had two thousand and three hendred and sixty seven logs submitted with almost two 387 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.720 hundred well, I should say over two hundred and ninety six thousand and seventy 388 00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.519 one QSOs made, so almost three hundred thousand QSOs, which is absolutely phenomenal. 389 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.519 I think that's great. I had no ideas. But what makes this 390 00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.480 whole thing interesting For that first stat I gave is that we're nineteen thousand, 391 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.519 six hundred and thirty six different call signs were involved in those. So if 392 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.079 there was nineteen thousand called different call signs, I would hope there would be 393 00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:36.640 nineteen thousand lugs submitted as well, or a muse or maybe maybe closer. 394 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.240 So I think we have a ratio there that that it doesn't match up very 395 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.759 well for a number of call signs versus logs submitted. So I would love 396 00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:48.759 to see that, you know, be more closer to each other. So 397 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.799 hopefully we can get more people submit logs, and that I mean, if 398 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.599 you're making if you're out there hunting winter field Day and you'll I'll just make 399 00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:59.359 twenty twenty five contacts, No big deal, go ahead and submit that log 400 00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:03.680 because we're cross checking them with other people who are submitting those logs, and 401 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:07.400 if they don't have that other log coming in, you're you're bouncing that contact, 402 00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:11.720 you know, so it kind of negates that a little bit. So 403 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.240 there are seven forty one contacts that were in the log in the in the 404 00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:22.039 logs not claimed last year, so you know, definitely it's worth submitting. 405 00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.640 You know. It's kind of like PODA hunting and activation. You're not giving 406 00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.119 the hunter any credit if you don't submit your log in PODAH. Kind of 407 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:33.519 the same thing here. What was really interesting was this past year was Ohio 408 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.000 was the most active state with one hundred and four stations on the air. 409 00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:41.480 The year before was North Carolina with one hundred and ten, So good for 410 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:45.200 those states. That's kind of cool to see. For the most part, 411 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.359 we have all of US and Canada. All the rack sections are typically had 412 00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:51.519 activity, but there's a few and I can't name those are off the top 413 00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.119 of my head. Who did not have activity. But I think those are 414 00:28:55.119 --> 00:28:57.680 more out in like New Hampshire, or you might get up in Vermont or 415 00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:03.720 maybe be over in like Wyoming and Montana where it's very few people are in 416 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:07.440 that area, and you know, those are the ones that we end up 417 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:11.440 with no contacts in sometimes. Again I kind of said it a little bit 418 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:17.119 ago. The average home user is working about four point four hours, and 419 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:18.599 then we kind of determined that from the time you submage your log to the 420 00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:22.720 time you edge your log. So we're taking that data and kind of extracting 421 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.759 that and trying to figure that out. So, I mean, that's kind 422 00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.599 of like some of the cool things that we're able to pull and we're looking 423 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.799 at just to try and see where where we're dropping the gap at and if 424 00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:37.160 there's something we can do to improve that to change it. We want to 425 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:42.680 improve the winter field day operators experience, and you know what can we do 426 00:29:42.680 --> 00:29:45.559 that from ir N to make that even better and get more people. I 427 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:51.519 mean, we'll see summer field Day with the aborl Rastra sites to be in 428 00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:53.519 the thousands, and right now we're only about four or five. I think 429 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:57.599 it was for somebody fortninety when I looked a little bit ago and I think 430 00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:00.960 last year we had about fifte hundreds. It's total that we're rastre so we're 431 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.480 down on numbers of people rake string. So if you're watching this evening and 432 00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.240 you've got a Winter field Day event going on, go out and rextra on 433 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:10.599 your site. You can make it private, you can make it public, 434 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.680 but we're just kind of trying to get an idea where people are at. 435 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:18.640 So and when you say register you red string like the call sign, you're 436 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.039 going to be operating as that's correct. So you'll go out and go to 437 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:26.599 a website rech to your location. And it also gives an opportunity for public 438 00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.640 or you know, hey, maybe I'm a new Ham and I've heard about 439 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.960 this Winter field Day thing, but I don't really know much about it. 440 00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.160 I want to go out and visit a site and see what it's about, 441 00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:38.079 and maybe I getting a chance to operate. They can go on our Winter 442 00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:41.519 field Day site, they can look at it, they can see it and 443 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:42.880 go, oh, there's a site that's a public near me. I'm going 444 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.640 to go visit that club, and hey, it might be opening a door 445 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.839 for them to become a member of that club. Even so, it's good 446 00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.240 from all around. It's a win win if we can get people to go 447 00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.240 out and do that. And again there's multiple reasons, not just for us. 448 00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.839 It may help you out and get more members of a club involved as 449 00:31:00.880 --> 00:31:04.319 well. Totally okay, good. I seem to recall that from last year, 450 00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:08.119 Noel, I know you're in the chat. I saw you comment earlier 451 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:14.039 that you registered K five NTR on the website, on the POTTA website. 452 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.039 So go out to Winterfield Day. Since you're the call sign trustee, buddy, 453 00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:22.599 go out to winterfielday dot com and register us as I think. I 454 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.160 think Galveston is Echo Lima thirteen as far as grid Square goes. If I 455 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:32.519 remember that correctly, it might be Echo Mike thirteen. We're Echo Mike. 456 00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:37.480 We're Echo Mike twelve here. I think it might be about grit squares. 457 00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:41.359 Yeah, we're Echo Mike twelve here where we're sitting, Frank, you and 458 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.799 I are Echo Mac twelve. That five hours sound to here. It's either 459 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.960 Echo Mike thirteen or Echo Lima thirteen. I can't remember, but yeah, 460 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:55.440 go register kN five t ARE at Galveston Island State Park or just Galveston Texas 461 00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.240 is fine if you would, please, sir, please, So do you 462 00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:04.119 publish the those registrations that you get. Yeah, you can see them right 463 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.759 on our website. So you can click on the I'll call it the little 464 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:13.119 Google icon. It's either purple for private or blue for public. And we've 465 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:15.640 changed our mapping software this year. Jason, can you pull that up by 466 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.000 chance? Yes? I can. I was just looking at that. Where 467 00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:22.160 do tell me where to just click on click on the purple right in the 468 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:23.240 mid No actually no, no, no, scroll down, sorry, scroll 469 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.279 down. You have to scroll down to the map. There we go. 470 00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:30.240 So if you scroll in. So we've changed it this year. Last year 471 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.680 you looked at the map and it was just covered in blue and purple Google 472 00:32:34.759 --> 00:32:39.559 designate waypoint markers, and so now this year is u zim zim out. 473 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.119 You can see, oh, there's two of them in that area. I 474 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:44.440 mean maybe you're in the middle of you know, Texas. Whatever you can 475 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:46.440 see there's you know, there's like twenty three in Dallas or something earlier I 476 00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:50.640 looked at and so you can scroll and see your numbers. And we don't 477 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.160 have so many pinpoints just splattering the map and you can't really find it where 478 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:57.720 everything you're at is out on the map. So we've kind of broken it 479 00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.359 up. Our database manager has has been able to handle that, so we 480 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.839 can see the map better this year and see where the pinpoints are. And 481 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.680 of course if you click on it will tell you more details about what that 482 00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.559 club is doing or maybe a talking frequency it might have on there. Uh, 483 00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:15.000 you know, maybe they're doing supper at six pm and you know, 484 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.319 bring up, bring a you know, a dish to serve whatever. So 485 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.519 so, so right here K five BS is tide Lands Amateur Radio Society. 486 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:30.759 This is the club that does the Texas City Hamfest every July. So this 487 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:34.000 if you guys have been to the Texas City Hamfest in South Texas, that's 488 00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:37.880 that club. And then this one right here is the Browsers Valley Image Radio 489 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.440 Club. This is one of the biggest clubs in the Houston area. KK 490 00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:46.279 five W so yeah, they got their b VARC is their club call sign. 491 00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:50.200 I've actually been to their well, no, i've been to their field 492 00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.839 day, not their winter field day, and they have a they have a 493 00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.720 fantastic field day set up. So so nothing on the island of Galveston is 494 00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.200 registered right now. So I need to get to Noel. I need to 495 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:06.240 get you on that, buddy, get your space preserved. It's right there. 496 00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:09.519 You see where Jamaica beaches. You see this this green area right here, 497 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:14.119 that's it right there, that's it right there, Galveston On State Park 498 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:20.119 right there. I do not, I do not. I talked. I 499 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:25.360 talked to them last week. So yeah, it's it's gonna yeah. Thank 500 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.280 you for the reminder, Frank. I need, I need, I need 501 00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.920 to get on that. So I'll get that. I'll get that done tomorrow 502 00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.639 probably. I see it. An awesome parrot pro Oh there he is. 503 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.039 Hey, look at that, so is he? So if you're gonna start 504 00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:45.000 talking, Melinda, is he going to start talking as well? There? 505 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.559 We have an African back here in the other cage that's like q r M 506 00:34:52.800 --> 00:35:02.400 personified. So we do ss TV every Sunday night, right uh huh huh. 507 00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.800 And sometimes I'll have the radio on that's in the living room because we 508 00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:13.440 have a radio in the house. So that way when my husband is out 509 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.840 of the country for military service, that I don't have to go to the 510 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:21.840 shack and power everything on. I can just use it right there and they 511 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:28.840 won't make SSTV. Oh my good Really they'll do the beeps in the really 512 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:32.960 like a fax machine. Oh my goodness, it's pretty cool. I bet, 513 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.559 I bet it awesome. It is awesome. That's great. Well that's 514 00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:42.480 a pretty bird. Thank you. I want to say. Paul Champion came 515 00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.199 for PT. He's out of the Nashville area. He says, you're echo 516 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.320 Lima is your grid squores? So I see that? Yeah, good Paul, 517 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:53.639 Yeah, thank you, Paul. Yeah. In five SKT said it's 518 00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:59.199 Eko Lima twenty nine and I think that, Yeah, that sounds correct. 519 00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:05.840 So I can see a couple others saying it too. I have a question 520 00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:10.880 here earlier is mobile stations? Okay? For Winter field Day? Yeah, 521 00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:16.000 so the mobile station kind of came out of a couple of different aspects. 522 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:22.400 One is that and we could go repull the definition exactly, but one of 523 00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.760 them, we had a trucker that was traveling across the country and he was 524 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.119 like, well, how do I you know, what what do I category 525 00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:30.760 do I go into? So we kind of created the mobile and then we 526 00:36:30.800 --> 00:36:35.199 also had people who were in like an RV or a trailer or a camp 527 00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.840 or some sort and so we figured if your own wheels, and you can 528 00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:42.480 have to get up and move and go to emergency or you need to leave 529 00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.599 or whatever, as long as you're I'm calling the basic definition here is as 530 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.239 long as your own wheels and you can move your mobile. If you're operating 531 00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.960 in your vehicle and you're just sitting in a park and you're operating out your 532 00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:59.400 your truck and running for ten hours, then you know your mobile. So 533 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:05.039 if you're operating in a tent, you know, an outdoor shelter or some 534 00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:10.039 sort that's outdoors, and then obviously we'll put indoors anywhere as like an EOC, 535 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:14.320 a church, a community center, so that would be like an indoor 536 00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:20.199 type of event category. And then your home is self explanatory. So now 537 00:37:20.360 --> 00:37:23.199 now if you're outdoors but you're a club, is there is that a different 538 00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:28.960 category. Nope, You'll still be considered outdoors. Okay, Okay, I 539 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:34.800 get confused because there's a different there's a different category for club or individual for 540 00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:38.159 field day, So I get confused between the two winterfield day and field I 541 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:45.679 think we've always operated as either three or four OSCAR for Winter field Day because 542 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:50.519 we've always been outdoors ever since we've been doing winterfield days, so we're always 543 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.199 in oscar station, depending on how many radios we have. So okay, 544 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.119 all right, good, Yeah. The only thing you'll find is that you 545 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:02.119 know, we you know, have the outdoors category and and a lot of 546 00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:06.960 people use that, which is which is you know, probably our second most 547 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:13.559 popular category. Really good, well good, I mean that's I mean realistically, 548 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:20.119 if you're actually preparing for InCom and post disaster communications, then outdoors is 549 00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:22.760 where you're gonna be. I mean, yeah, that's where we watch it 550 00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:27.199 hurricanes Katrina, Harvey and all that and Ike and all that stuff. That 551 00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:31.519 was all Ham radio operators setting up outdoors to send messages to and from the 552 00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:36.320 area. So that yeah, yeah, you're it's possible. You could set 553 00:38:36.360 --> 00:38:37.920 up indoors if you find the right cross shelter or something, but you know, 554 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:42.199 outdoors is i mean, especially if the weather's nice, outdoors is more 555 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.519 applicable. So good. Yeah, outdoors or mobile, I mean just even 556 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:47.880 if you have a trailer or camper, right, it's perfect. I mean, 557 00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:50.840 you can still be indoors and out of the weather, especially if you're 558 00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:52.239 in you know, Minnesota. You know, some people might just be in 559 00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.679 a tent on the ice, because there's people who do ice, you know, 560 00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.679 ice tins, and they'll go sit up on the ice and set their 561 00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.800 hamshack for the weekend. It's right, you know. So yeah, yeah, 562 00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:06.280 that covers the grave. Man Poda says, I live in a tent. 563 00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:12.239 Does that consider it outdoors our home? Go outdoors, but just go 564 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:17.360 outdoors? Yeah? Okay, so uh let's see how do we do this 565 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:24.960 here? So gosh, use control zoom. Okay, there we go right 566 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:30.320 there, So Noel is is on target right here. So thank you very 567 00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:35.400 much. Nol Can five s okay for the win. Here Can five tr 568 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.960 right there on the beach in Galveston. That's where we will be. He 569 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.639 just registered that. So thanks buddy, appreciate you being in the chat tonight 570 00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:49.719 and participating in that great great President of the club, we use that term 571 00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.239 loosely because we're a very nonchalant laid back club. We have like two meetings 572 00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:57.880 a year, but we do we do field Day winter field Day every year 573 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:01.480 and it's a fun thing. So we're we're looking at maybe expanding that eventually 574 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:06.360 sometime, but right now that's what we do. So so Nole's got is 575 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.159 registered at Galveston isl in state Park, Frank, So we're good to go, 576 00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:13.079 man, Just for everyone to know. If you're going to come in, 577 00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.920 do the south side entrance, and then we will be at one of 578 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.000 the big pavilions, look right. Yeah. So somebody asked in the chat 579 00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:24.159 earlier, will you be on the base side of the golf side. We 580 00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:29.519 will be on the golf side. That is the side that they rebuilt like 581 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:34.320 a year and a half ago. They had the whole golf side shut down 582 00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.159 for like two years and they redid the whole thing. Really nice facilities up 583 00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:45.119 there now, tent sites, RV sites, day use sites, nice restroom 584 00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:49.119 and bathhouse facilities and that kind of thing. So yeah, we'll be on 585 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.079 that side. If you're coming south on three FM three thousand and five, 586 00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.800 which is the main road through town, you'll turn left to get to the 587 00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:00.320 golf right there where you see the big sign for Galveston Island State Park, 588 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.440 that's where we'll be. So we'll talk about it between a little bit between 589 00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.840 now and then as well. So sign up on my email list and I'll 590 00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.159 send emails about it. So do that sounds like a great location. It 591 00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.559 it it's a it's a fun location. We do Poda there all the time. 592 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:17.920 We've never done a field day or Winter field Day from there, but 593 00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.360 that I mean, I'm looking forward. I think it's gonna be I think 594 00:41:22.360 --> 00:41:25.000 it's gonna be a fun, fun thing. So my wife and I own 595 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.920 a house down there that it's a it's an investment property for us. We 596 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.599 rented out during the summer, but during the winter is nobody there. So 597 00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:36.079 we go down there during the winter and so have several people coming down. 598 00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:38.239 We're gonna stay and have a place to go back to at night. We're 599 00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:40.920 gonna do Poda on Friday, and then we'll go do winterfield Day on Saturday. 600 00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:46.159 So I'm looking forward to having a bed. Now. You might, 601 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.280 you might, I don't know. It depends on how many people we have. 602 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.360 Frank, you might be on the floor. But we'll see. Oh 603 00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.480 no, I I got my room only giving up to couples. We'll see 604 00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.880 who's the new Robert. Robert was act asking about it earlier. But I 605 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:04.000 want to make sure Robert has a place to stay if he wants to come 606 00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:07.679 down, because he's our satellite guy. We're gonna have him do satellite Robert. 607 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:13.119 Robert is an expert expert satellite operator. So yeah, get us some 608 00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.840 satellite contacts, but you can come down and have a free place to stay. 609 00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.800 Slowly fine, hey, Jason. So one of the questions, yeah, 610 00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:22.119 draws from this is that you're talking about you know, you guys are 611 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.880 doing three or four osker. Do you do your own call signs or do 612 00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:29.880 you have like a club call you're using? We have a club call, 613 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.320 so Keilo November five Tango Radio is what we use. Like I said, 614 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.719 it's a very it's a very laid back club. It's long story short. 615 00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:43.719 It is a club that was formed several years ago by some some people that 616 00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:45.960 I know, but I wasn't a part of it, and they kind of 617 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.920 just kind of let the club go and and my friend Nol was able to 618 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:52.719 grab the call sign from the trustee because they didn't want to use it anymore. 619 00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:55.719 And we've used that call sign at field Day and winterfield Day for like 620 00:42:55.760 --> 00:43:02.400 the past four years. We according to ALRL standards for clubs, we have 621 00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:06.199 to have a meeting twice a year. We do that. We keep notes 622 00:43:06.199 --> 00:43:08.559 for the meeting, we keep minutes and whatnot, and then we operate as 623 00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:12.719 kN five t R during these events and whatnot. I want to expand that 624 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:15.119 and do some more potus stuff with it and do some soda activations with it 625 00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.880 and whatnot. But we always have fun with both Winter field Day and field 626 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:23.119 Day to operate as that club. And it's been it's been a good it's 627 00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.199 been a good run on that club. But yeah, we'll be operating as 628 00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.280 a club call sign. So just f y like last year we had a 629 00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:34.039 club challenge and we did didn't really have a ton of activity on that, 630 00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:37.440 so we did eliminate that for this year. In case anybody's asking any question 631 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.880 around that. Okay, so what did that involved? Is exactly? Is 632 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:47.000 it like points between clubs and whatnot. So we take the cumulative score, 633 00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:52.800 so if you were operating as your call sign, and then you submitge your 634 00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.719 log and you put in your notes also you know, add to club score 635 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.559 or add to club call whatever club it might be, and uh, and 636 00:44:01.599 --> 00:44:05.880 then you put your club name in there as well, because you know, 637 00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:09.960 we had to, you know, make sure we kept separate the club names 638 00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.159 and the call signs because there may be two clubs with the same name. 639 00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.119 So that's what we can do call signs for too. Yeah, So anyway, 640 00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:21.719 we We threw that in there last year, but we didn't have a 641 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.719 lot of participation with it. But people could you know, total their scores 642 00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:29.960 and come up with a club call with overall scores for the club as well. 643 00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.440 But again didn't have a lot of interest in it, so we kind 644 00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:36.559 of dropped it for this year. So okay, but I mean, I'd 645 00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.280 love to hear people in the chat if they they if they liked the club 646 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:43.119 challenge or not. But you know, see what the notes say. But 647 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.480 you know, there's a club challenge that goes on every year at the at 648 00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:52.239 the Poda. I know, I keep talking about Poda at the Poda Plaque 649 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.639 Challenge. There's the plaque of it they have anymore, Well whatever it's called 650 00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.920 now, it's a thing in June is a plaque event. It's a plaque 651 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.760 event in June the support your Parks weekend and they have a club thing for 652 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:08.000 that and people really they really get into that. So I would think that'd 653 00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:10.880 be a good thing for Winnifield Day myself. So yeah, maybe we need 654 00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.400 to look at bringing it back. And it just didn't have a lot of 655 00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.880 interest in last year and it was kind of a lot to manage because you 656 00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.840 might have someone who comes up with I'll use my prior club, Stone's River 657 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.119 Amateur Radio Club, and someone might just put in sr ARC, or someone 658 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:30.840 might spell Stone's wrong, and it was just kind of a mess because that's 659 00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:32.880 one reason we were asking for people to rachiter He too, because they would 660 00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:38.039 raxture under that club and we could kind of make sure the data matched when 661 00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:42.400 we submitted the club log with what was richstered and know that it was the 662 00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.800 same club all in one and not two different clubs here of some sort. 663 00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.440 So, like I said, it was a little bit of a mess for 664 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:53.199 Andrew, our web master, to manage there because I'll get people would sell 665 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:57.079 it wrong or spell it wrong, or they would simply just put in the 666 00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.199 initials of it, you know, instead of the full name correctly. So 667 00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:05.599 yeah, yeah, yeah, well that's the thing. So good. So 668 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.679 let's see, I want to respond to this comment here. I'm gotta find 669 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:16.199 it again. Okay, Dell Fargas says, none of my clubs are on 670 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.599 the map. Looks like we'll have to go alone. Wolf, Nothing wrong 671 00:46:20.639 --> 00:46:23.159 with that, but contact your clubs and tell them to join the map, 672 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:28.960 tell them to register themselves, like like Marvin said a minute ago, tell 673 00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.800 them to register on winterfield Day dot com so that people know where they are, 674 00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.000 cause I didn't look and see if the Hurst Club was there, but 675 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:38.719 I know they're doing. I know that Hurst is doing winterfield Day because I 676 00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:43.800 got an email from him last week, Frank. But you know, they 677 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.039 always have a lot of people come out to their events because they are They're 678 00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.039 a very active club in the North Texas area, so one of the most 679 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.400 actives. I love being part of that club absolutely, absolutely, So yeah, 680 00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:57.280 yeah, make sure your club. If you're a member of a club, 681 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.039 contact them and tell them to register on Winter field Day dot com. 682 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.000 I mean, even if they're just going to go out there and make an 683 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.679 hour's worth of contacts and go home, that's okay. Go do it. 684 00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.480 Go read sure yourself so people know you're out there. I see a question 685 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:15.760 from Kent here in the chat, is self spotting okay during winterfield Day? 686 00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:22.039 So if you're you're running a PoTA and self spot yourself, I think from 687 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:25.519 that standpoint, i'd have to go. I think we also had someone emails 688 00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:28.920 that question this afternoon, and I've not had a chance for review, Alex. 689 00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.960 I've been on a couple video chests this afternoon talking about winterfield Day. 690 00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.880 But I think, I mean, if you're out in the Poeta site and 691 00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.039 you're doing it there and you're actually in a park, I think that's gonna 692 00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:43.239 be fine. What we I think you can self spot that day. Don't 693 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:45.920 quote me on that one hundred and ten percent. If Michael W. Four 694 00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:50.000 Ops was in here at Created Services Manager, he k does a lot of 695 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:52.719 the guidelines and rules and some of the designing and of all this. He 696 00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.920 knows that a little bit better than I do, even as president, because 697 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.840 he's in and out of it every day. But you know, I know 698 00:48:00.119 --> 00:48:02.039 you can't go out in pre solicit contacts. So I can't say, hey, 699 00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.559 Tank, get a hold of me on you know, a winter field 700 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.480 day. I'm going to be on this frequency at this time and we're going 701 00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.119 to try and you know, make a contact that day. You can't pre 702 00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:17.840 solicit, but I think you can at least go in and and and you 703 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:23.239 know, seuth spot that day. For sure. Yeah, okay, so 704 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.920 uh okay, gray Man, I'm gonna get to you, Gene. I'll 705 00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.360 get to you next. Gray Man. Poda, Yeah, gray Man, 706 00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.800 Poda, can you do a club call from multiple locations, i e. 707 00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:43.480 A virtual club that has members across the country, because like the y Cars 708 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.760 group who's big into Poda does that, and we for DX hamry To Adventures, 709 00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:52.320 they do that. They'll they'll operate as like Whiskey Echo for Delta X 710 00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:58.199 Ray Stroke five for five calls five land or Stroke six for six land and 711 00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:04.559 whatnot. So what what's your do you have a do you have a knowledge 712 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.840 on that? I guess, I guess I was looking for that question. 713 00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:09.199 I was trying to look at this question. We're to get to me more 714 00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:15.400 time. Uh, can you do a club call from multiple locations? Yeah? 715 00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:22.119 Okay, virtual basically a virtual club, virtual club. Yeah yeah, 716 00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:28.639 So I mean I suppose No, I don't think you can because you have 717 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.239 to be within a thousand foot radius. We do have a similar radius that 718 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:36.559 a double r L does, so that would not work. And then I 719 00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:39.679 saw someone else had a question down the road. Can I work as one 720 00:49:39.800 --> 00:49:45.559 home and then go one mobile? Uh, and and and submit two different 721 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.400 logs. I guess you can, but it would really end up being in 722 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.519 two different categories. You're gonna have you're gonna be in the mobile group and 723 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.599 you'll also be in the in the home group. Uh, if you operate 724 00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.360 as Here's what my stake on this is, we're not the winter Field Day 725 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.840 Police. We're not gonna if you if we said you had to be one 726 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:07.199 thousand foot circle and you're at twelve hundred or you're you know, if we 727 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:08.199 said you had to be five hundred foot from your home and you're only three 728 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:10.800 hundred and nine nine feet, we're not coming out to major. We're not 729 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:14.960 going to come out and and and and you know, just hold you to 730 00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:16.639 that and go. Man, you said you're one home, and I find 731 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:21.119 you operating one mobile. You know, it's like if you're mobile, you 732 00:50:21.159 --> 00:50:27.159 can just be one home and still keep under the same uh call sign and 733 00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.559 log under the same time frame. Again, I can't hold just that, 734 00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:36.719 but I think just mostly is what we kind of always go on as our 735 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.519 morals. I think it's an integrity and just hope that you kind of do 736 00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:44.039 the right thing. Good amateur radio operators just be good operators. Absolutely, 737 00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:45.960 so I think if you again, if you're not going to hold you true 738 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.440 to it, but if you were at home and you went mobile and you 739 00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:51.960 stayed at one home, I think we're gonna be fine with it. I 740 00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:55.320 mean, I don't like it, but it's like, what else do you 741 00:50:55.360 --> 00:51:00.800 do? I meaner it'd be easier to submitting two different logs. Yeah, 742 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:05.320 say the one category. If you're going to do that, then just lug 743 00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.760 yourself all this mobile or something. Yep. And Gene had a really good 744 00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.719 question win link, whin link RF. If you're send win link messages, 745 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:17.599 is that count as a contact? It does. That's one of our objectives 746 00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:21.559 this year. So it does work and what we're hoping to set up. 747 00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:24.000 And I didn't get it done. KM four a CK could have helped me 748 00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:25.679 with it a little bit too, And I haven't done it. I just 749 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.840 have had time. I moved into my house in Massachusetts and December fifteenth, 750 00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.559 and five days later I had water in my basement. So I've been having 751 00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.840 remodel my basement and spend a lot of time doing other things. So yeah, 752 00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:39.719 that didn't help moving into a new house. But what I was getting 753 00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:43.119 at is that I was hoping to be able to set up a win link 754 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:47.880 message so you could send it to w zero WRC and then we would automatically 755 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.119 send a reply back to you. So if you didn't have a place to 756 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.440 send a win link message to. You could send it to that call sign 757 00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.679 and then we'd give you an automatic reply back. But I've not had time 758 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:00.719 to set that up. That will probably being our objectives from next year. 759 00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:05.719 You can send to that call sign. You won't have time to set it 760 00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:08.079 up in the next two weeks, then I might try. If I do 761 00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:10.559 all tweeted that, we'll try. We'll try and get it out on social 762 00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:15.840 media again. We're on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and our discord channel. 763 00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.079 If I can get set up in the next two weeks, I will 764 00:52:19.079 --> 00:52:22.440 see if we can get that out there and you give you an automatic replay 765 00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.119 that you know you did send a message. It kind of a confirmation for 766 00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:30.119 you that you went through. We'll try and do that. So that reminds 767 00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:37.239 me. Since I'm on boy, I've I'm involved in too many things, 768 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:42.719 I think. But since I'm on board the board of Winter field Day, 769 00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:47.480 I actually have access to the Instagram and Twitter account for Winter. So you 770 00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:51.960 guys listening to me in the chat right now, listening to me on the 771 00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.199 replay, listening to me on the audio rip, okay, because I'll get 772 00:52:54.199 --> 00:53:00.800 this audio rip posted before Winter field Day send me your pictures from winterfield Day 773 00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:05.719 and I will get either, even if it's last year. Send them to 774 00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.920 me today tomorrow, okay, but from twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four 775 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.199 or any time before that. If you have a cool picture, I don't 776 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.159 care what it is, send me your pictures for winterfield Day anytime you've done 777 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:21.559 it. Kcfive htibb at gmail dot com. Send me a picture and say, 778 00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:25.559 please post winterfield Day pics and I'll put it on the Instagram's slash Twitter 779 00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.480 for winterfield Day account and we'll get you and we'll tag you. Guys. 780 00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:31.800 Send me your the name of your Instagram account, the name of your Twitter 781 00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:35.280 account. Let me know what it is. I will be happy to tag 782 00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.079 you from the winterfield Day account. That's we want to get. We want 783 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:42.880 to get the winterfield Day social media stuff more active. So I mean it's 784 00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.079 it's it's a once a year event. People aren't looking at the winterfield Day 785 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:51.639 account in August or September or like. Actually sometimes they are, but sometimes 786 00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:53.599 they are. Yeah, but there's a lot more activity in January than there 787 00:53:53.639 --> 00:53:58.400 is any other time of day. So yeah, so send me your pictures. 788 00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:00.760 Case five h shibby Gmail. Send me your stuff. I will be 789 00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.440 happy to post it to the winterfield Day social media accounts and tag you guys, 790 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:07.199 So let me know what your information is. Go ahead and Marvin sorry, 791 00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.239 yep, no, No, you're good. Jason, I'm glad you 792 00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.599 said that. Talked about that. And the other thing is you can post 793 00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:15.599 them on our Discord channel as well. Yeah, we have Discord so you 794 00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:17.480 can find that right on our website. It's an open invitation all year long. 795 00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.480 You can join in there anytime and post your pictures in there. We're 796 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.320 happy to post them. We'd love them. Sometimes we'll use them on our 797 00:54:24.320 --> 00:54:28.000 own social media. If you look at our website right now, we do 798 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.880 have some people who have been posted in our sites before. We reached out 799 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.760 to them and said, hey, can we information to use your photos. 800 00:54:32.920 --> 00:54:37.000 There are some great sites, some great photos. We'd love to have them, 801 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:38.639 and we just want to see what people are doing. And again, 802 00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:43.639 or even if you post your own photos for winterfield Day on winterfield Day, 803 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.360 hey, at winterfield Day, you can tag us on your on your Twitter 804 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:51.880 or your Facebook accounts at winterfield Day and we'll get you in there as well. 805 00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:55.679 So absolutely email them to Jason. Absolutely anyway, any way you can, 806 00:54:57.079 --> 00:55:00.239 Well, well, I'll be posting quite a bit of pictures from our 807 00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:04.440 winderfield Day activation on our on the winterfield Day account, so you guys go 808 00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.079 check that out. Searched Instagram. Is it just at winterfield Day? I 809 00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:10.360 don't remember. Yep, it's a for Twitter, it is. I don't 810 00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.760 know if Facebook and Instagram you'll you'll probably know that one, and I will. 811 00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:17.400 I don't think I have the Facebook, but I do have Instagram, 812 00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.639 and I think it's just uh winterfield Day. I think it's just linked together 813 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:29.079 because Facebook owns Instagram. Now, okay, but yeah, so winterfield Day 814 00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:34.760 I'll find it. So so there's a question, and I'm sure I know 815 00:55:34.800 --> 00:55:38.519 the answer to this one. It says is EchoLink allowed? Thank you? 816 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:43.079 I was. I was just gonna get to that, thank you, Melinda. 817 00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:47.159 Yes, so nothing that is Internet connected is allowed. This is our 818 00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:55.239 f over the air only, like most contests and field day events type type 819 00:55:55.280 --> 00:56:01.159 stuff are. So it is. It is RF over the air, not 820 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.519 over the Internet. Nothing wrong with internet connected devices. I use all Star 821 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:07.400 all the time. I love all Star, I love DMRK, nothing wrong 822 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.159 with that. But this event is not for that. So no, that's 823 00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:15.280 not really allowed for this event. Here's the Instagram account. I'm going to 824 00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:17.400 share it with you guys. You guys go follow Winterfield Day on Instagram. 825 00:56:17.480 --> 00:56:22.360 We've got one hundred and seventy three followers and there's four hundred and thirty nine 826 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.119 of you in the chat right now, so I expect that number to grow 827 00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:30.199 by three hundred percent by the time this stream. Is it? Absolutely so, 828 00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:34.320 David. That is a good question. That is a very good question, 829 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.719 David. When link is internet connected question mark, No, it is 830 00:56:38.760 --> 00:56:47.840 not. When link is sending email from your computer through your radio over ourf 831 00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:53.719 to another radio that receives it and downloads it to downloads it to their computer. 832 00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:59.519 Very similar to FT eight JSA call PSK thirty one ritty something like that. 833 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:06.000 When link is email, win link is email over RF over the air, 834 00:57:06.719 --> 00:57:08.719 not over the internet. Now you can do wind link over the internet, 835 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:15.239 yes, but when link the regular the real way to do wind link 836 00:57:15.320 --> 00:57:19.559 is over the air. You're sending from your computer through your radio to another 837 00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.719 radio and computer connected somewhere else in the world. So even if even if 838 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:28.840 that win even if it bounces off a win link node somewhere and it kind 839 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:34.639 of like repeat digitpeedees it or whatever. It's still over the air. So 840 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.039 so yeah, win link is not when link can be both, that's correct, 841 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:43.360 it can be both. But the essential point of win link is to 842 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:45.559 say, hey, the Internet is down, let's send an email over the 843 00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.440 air. So that's that's that's kind of a thing right there. But yeah, 844 00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:52.679 somebody else have a question on that. Oh hey, look at that. 845 00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.880 Uh, Michael decided to wake up. What's up? Dude? Did 846 00:57:55.920 --> 00:58:00.519 you did you go? Did you get over your drunken Stuperman with yuh man? 847 00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:06.559 Are you kidding? I've been out roaming the high desert here in Arizona 848 00:58:06.760 --> 00:58:09.599 and it's been a lot of fun here doing some contract work. And I'll 849 00:58:09.599 --> 00:58:15.559 tell you what. We drove through some mountain passes where the roads were unmaintained. 850 00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:19.360 The Noah was on the road. We're about, you know, eighty 851 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:23.039 five hundred feet, and you know, we questioned our life decisions at that 852 00:58:23.159 --> 00:58:30.079 point. Yeah, I'm taking this road. I hear you, I hear 853 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.960 you. Wow. Well, good evening to you, man, welcome, 854 00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.880 glad you were able to join. And have you been listening? I have 855 00:58:37.000 --> 00:58:39.079 been listening, and as I was listening. I was like, Yo, 856 00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:42.760 don't want me to join because I'm just I'm way too talkative. Right, 857 00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.960 I talked to one of the bunch. But I also do a lot of 858 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:52.719 the rules and stuff, so whenever it comes to these questions, I usually 859 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:57.239 have them down. But uh, I think on a lot of these things 860 00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:02.280 is there's a spirit within Winter Phil Day and as long as you're operating within 861 00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:09.519 the spirit of MCom and emergency communications, A lot of the stuff that you 862 00:59:09.559 --> 00:59:16.360 read and the rules have from leeway. So you know, like my brother 863 00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:19.159 said, you know, we're not the place. We're not going to come 864 00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.920 out major if you're twelve hundred feet or if you're a thousand feet, does 865 00:59:21.920 --> 00:59:24.599 it say a thousand feet? Yes it does. Is it a hard rule 866 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:30.880 or a guideline? You know? Yeah? So, But I mean even 867 00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:37.320 driving through these winter passes, and I think about a lot of Winter Field 868 00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:42.719 Day. It's not just about radio communications, but it's a preparedness state of 869 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:45.559 mind. You know, if you're going down the road and you slide off 870 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:50.320 into a snowbank, you know, how prepared are you? Do you have 871 00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.079 you know, an HF radio in your vehicle? Do you have extra blankets. 872 00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:58.400 Do you have a heater? You know, during the Winter field Day 873 00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:04.880 emergency exercise puts people on the mindset of am I prepared to make myself comfortable 874 01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:08.840 and you know, whatever condition I may find myself in. And that may 875 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:14.079 be you know, a car crash along the side of the road. It 876 01:00:14.119 --> 01:00:17.000 may be you know, a cruise ship that loses power in the middle of 877 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:22.519 the ocean. It may be a vacation, you know, down to Galveston 878 01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:25.800 or Florida and there's a hurricane coming. You know, do you have that 879 01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:30.239 preparedness mindset to just make sure you can do what you need to do, 880 01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:37.760 not just get on the radio, make contacts, but be comfortable and overcome 881 01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:42.559 obstacles. That's the spirit of Winterfield Day, and as far as you are 882 01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.400 operating within that spirit, you'll be fine. We'd love to have you guys 883 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:52.360 come join us on the air. What digital modes are allowed during Winterfield Day? 884 01:00:53.199 --> 01:01:00.639 Anything that can broadcast a paragraph, thing or a list, So if 885 01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:02.679 you can actually communicate, go back and forth and be like, you know, 886 01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.920 yeah, this is Tank Radio, this is my website, this is 887 01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:10.239 where I'm located, this is you know, this is what I need. 888 01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:15.599 And if you can broadcast that kind of information, then you know it's allowed 889 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:20.880 on winterfield. If it's something where you know you have to have an exact 890 01:01:20.920 --> 01:01:24.119 exchange and you can't enter any other characters or anything like that. A lot 891 01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:30.880 of people mentioned like FT four FT eight more than just a more than just 892 01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.559 a signal report. More than just a signal report. We want you to 893 01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.159 be able to athlete, be able to carry on the conversation if needed. 894 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:42.280 Correct. Yeah, f FT eight and FT four, I love them both, 895 01:01:42.599 --> 01:01:44.920 but they're just signal reports. It's like, oh yeah, five seven, 896 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.840 five, nine seventy three, good goodbye, next station. So j 897 01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:52.840 s call number, you're flooded and stuck on a roof and have to send 898 01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.840 you a GPS coordinator right right right? Yeah, JS call You can actually 899 01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.159 keyboard to keyboard and type of message and it uses the same protocol as FT 900 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:05.599 eight. So solly, I mean more options are like PSK thirty one and 901 01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:09.360 rtt y and fl DIGI I mean those are some other options there. What's 902 01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:15.960 the what's the something? JT sixty five does that? Yeah? Can that 903 01:02:15.039 --> 01:02:20.280 do it? I think that's just a sigle report also report. Okay, 904 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.199 it's been a while since I've used JT sixty five. I don't remember myself 905 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:24.039 as well. I couldn't remember that was one of them, but there, 906 01:02:24.119 --> 01:02:27.480 I mean, it was just some of the other examples you can use. 907 01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:34.639 So any digital protocol that hill say it's an active transmission of live data and 908 01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:40.159 not preloaded canned information is fine. Yes, yeah, more than just a 909 01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:46.280 signal report. Okay, cool? So TK Radio Adventures ask Mike if he 910 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:52.079 remembers back in September of twenty nineteen at Bluff Mountains Adventures, if your remembers 911 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.920 the black FBR truck. Lol. Did not know I was talking to someone 912 01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:01.559 big rider field day, I mean, but yeah, so you got a 913 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:06.199 fan in the chat. Apparently. Of all the things I used to do, 914 01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:09.320 I used to be an ATV tour guide. Now, if someone had 915 01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:15.199 told me that I can graduate high school and go ride ATVs and get paid 916 01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:19.360 and make a living off of it, I wouldn't have waited until I was 917 01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.440 forty years old to go do that. I'd sign up for that right now. 918 01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.519 Yeah, let's go. Let's do that. So I totally. Mountain 919 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:31.559 is in East Tennessee, right around Pidgeonforge and Gatlinburg. They have a great 920 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:37.480 repeater system over there, and some GMRS repeater systems over there. But that's 921 01:03:37.480 --> 01:03:40.400 a great example of you know, you never know where you're going to be 922 01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:44.679 and what you're going to do. Back in twenty sixteen, they had really 923 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:50.039 severe fires in East Tennessee and they get flooding and stuff like that as well. 924 01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:54.880 So hello to people I know in East Tennessee for sure, totally, 925 01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.960 totally. That's awesome. Good, Yeah, that's great. It's good too. 926 01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.039 It's good to get messages. Remember when that kind of thing. So 927 01:04:02.119 --> 01:04:08.960 I had this question is coming from me Tank radio. They all talk at 928 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:12.719 the beginning of the stream. You defined a or you said that, Uh 929 01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:17.320 you there's a twenty four hour prep period. What what does that mean? 930 01:04:19.280 --> 01:04:23.920 Mike? You want to answer that or you want me to I'm here, 931 01:04:24.840 --> 01:04:29.039 I'm here now. You're all, y'all are in trouble. So just like 932 01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:33.639 summer Phil Day, you know, we want you to be prepared and start 933 01:04:33.679 --> 01:04:36.400 planning, but we don't want you to set up, you know, the 934 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:41.079 weekend before or you know, start on Wednesday, you know, setting up 935 01:04:41.119 --> 01:04:45.159 your equipment. So we have a I think you can start setting up as 936 01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:47.679 early as twenty four hours before the event, if you're going to be outside 937 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.760 where you get to a park and you got to set up you know, 938 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:57.440 you know tense and uh you know if Jason you have your hex beam, 939 01:04:57.480 --> 01:04:59.159 you know, if you're going to set up the hext beam, stuff like 940 01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.360 that, all that takes time. So we give you a twenty four hour 941 01:05:01.440 --> 01:05:10.960 period to set up your equipment before the operational period begins. In a emergency, 942 01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:15.320 you might only have two hours half hour, so we give you twenty 943 01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:19.440 four but there's only twelve hours of actual time you can do that. So 944 01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.400 I mean you could do it from six pm or six am to six pm. 945 01:05:23.440 --> 01:05:26.599 You might be able to do it from five am to five pm or 946 01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:29.039 something, or maybe you need to come there early in the morning, take 947 01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.360 a break off in the afternoon, come back in the evening again. So 948 01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:33.239 we only want to maxive early twelve hours out of that, but we want 949 01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.760 to give you that more twenty four hour period because it may just be different 950 01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:40.360 time frames for different people depending on where they get off work and things like 951 01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:45.760 that. So technically that's always the rule for field day as well. I 952 01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.280 know a lot of people that kind of fudge on that rule a little bit, 953 01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:53.920 including us, because we go to the deer Lease and there is nothing. 954 01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.840 There's no water, there's no electricity, there's nothing at the hunting leaks. 955 01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:01.239 We are totally boondocked. So we set up antenna's usually a couple days 956 01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:08.360 before, maybe a day day or two before, but it's like it's very 957 01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:12.199 portable deployment and type thing. Then we'll just hunt PODA for like a day 958 01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:14.320 or two and then we'll do a field day. But yeah, so it 959 01:06:14.440 --> 01:06:16.280 technically it's supposed to be. But this year, Frank, we will be 960 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:21.119 at the park on Friday, probably on Friday to do PODA, but we 961 01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:25.800 can't stay at the park overnight at the pavilion, so we're gonna have to 962 01:06:25.840 --> 01:06:28.840 tear down Friday night and then go back Saturday morning, set up again, 963 01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.400 and do field day all day on Saturday, and decide if we want to 964 01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.400 go back on Sunday. So I'm just trying to clarify that that's for the 965 01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:40.119 outside stations. That's if you're going to go do PODA. If you're doing 966 01:06:40.159 --> 01:06:45.239 a home station and your tire rig is permanently set up on a house and 967 01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.840 a large tower, you don't need to tear that down. That's all the 968 01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:55.079 classification. As you're working from home, you're not expected to bring that down 969 01:06:55.119 --> 01:07:00.119 and put that back up. No, no, okay, I just I 970 01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.519 just wanted to clarify that. You know, Jason said something that made me 971 01:07:02.559 --> 01:07:08.960 think of a something brand new this year. We've had a couple questions on 972 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:13.280 it, so I guess I could bring it up and offer maybe some clarification 973 01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.079 on it. And again, this is in the spirit of winter Phil Dad, 974 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:19.480 it's not a hard you know rule. But what do you think of 975 01:07:19.519 --> 01:07:25.840 the new guidelines? Jason? Do you see those instead of the bonus points? 976 01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.639 I did. Yeah, yeah, I read through that. I can't 977 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:32.360 remember exactly everything is said right now, but yeah, I did see that 978 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:38.800 email. Yes, So we added this year one of the objectives because we 979 01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:43.440 don't have bonus points. One of the objectives is to operate for six straight 980 01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:46.079 hours. And of course, you know, if you're not staying there every 981 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.039 night, or you know, if you only have access to the place until 982 01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:53.519 sunset or something like that, people are like, you know, I mean, 983 01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:56.599 you know, sixty years old, I'm gonna have to make a bathroom 984 01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:00.079 break sometime within that period. Yeah, I can't this sixty or six straight 985 01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:05.599 hours and one of the reasoning behind that objectives is because you know, if 986 01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:11.079 you're in a eoc or or if there's an emergency going on and you're sitting 987 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:13.920 at a Red Cross shelter, you know, you may be in front of 988 01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.840 that radio for a four hour, six hour, twelve hour shift, and 989 01:08:17.119 --> 01:08:21.520 you know it may be hard for you to get away, but you know 990 01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:24.640 you don't have to be transmitting the whole time. You know, if you're 991 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:26.520 in a park, you don't have to be sitting there calling you know, 992 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:30.239 CQ Winterfield Day PODA for six hours straight. You just have to be with 993 01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:38.520 an earshot of the radio so that if someone does call, you're able to 994 01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:43.279 answer that call. And I was talking to our web designer the other day 995 01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.680 and even for a home station, say uh, I'm one home or say 996 01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:50.000 I'm one outdoor, right, and you know I'm gonna have to step away 997 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:56.279 from the radio. Well, in a situation like that, if there's another, 998 01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.239 you know, one home station down the street, I can be like, 999 01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.680 hey, you know W zero met this is W four ops. I'm 1000 01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:06.880 going to step away from the radio for ten minutes. If you hear any 1001 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:10.880 calls come in, you know, will you be able to take them. 1002 01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:15.159 That would be in the spirit of MCom, in the spirit of winterfield Day, 1003 01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:18.319 and perfectly acceptable. If someone said, say, W four ops, 1004 01:09:18.399 --> 01:09:21.720 are you there? W zero met would be able to be like, he 1005 01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:26.079 stepped away from the radio, can I take your traffic? And that's what 1006 01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:31.119 it's all about, is being able to be available on the radio for six 1007 01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:36.880 hours straight if someone calls you. And I think that's a very interesting way 1008 01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:40.039 to do it. If you're a one home station, if you're a one 1009 01:09:40.079 --> 01:09:45.159 outdoor station or something like that, you know, if you have someone else 1010 01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:45.880 I can hear, you'd be like, hey, you know, can you 1011 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:49.279 listen for traffic for a second. I'm going to step away and you know, 1012 01:09:49.319 --> 01:09:51.439 I'll be back. Basically, you know, can you hold the frequency 1013 01:09:51.479 --> 01:09:56.560 for me? Or something like that. But we want to get you in 1014 01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.000 the habit of being like, hey, can you sit and monitored radio for 1015 01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:04.000 six hours because in any event of a power outage or something like that, 1016 01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:10.960 you might have to right right right, Yeah, totally. So it's it's 1017 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.439 an InCom exercise more than anything. So that's great, that's great. Ye. 1018 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:19.039 The other thing is Michael made me think we've got six hour or six 1019 01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:23.359 hour timeframe that will work. But we also asked you to work six different 1020 01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.640 bands, so everybody likes to work twenty and forty, but how about the 1021 01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.159 ten, twelve to fifteen, you know, and get on those other bands 1022 01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.239 and work right now. The solar spots have been pretty decent, pretty good, 1023 01:10:34.319 --> 01:10:38.279 so you should have some pretty good luck. And some of the d 1024 01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:43.079 X stations have been phenomenal on every band. So I don't I do not 1025 01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.439 like. I don't like twenty meters and let me let me clarify that. 1026 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:51.079 Come on, twenty meters is easy. I would much rather be on ten 1027 01:10:51.319 --> 01:10:57.079 or fifteen, or even twelve or seventeen. Now, now clarify something for 1028 01:10:57.119 --> 01:11:00.359 me, Marvin, because I think you said twelve a minute ago. Can 1029 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.640 we use twelve and seventeen in the work bands on winterfield Day because it's a 1030 01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:09.439 contest or no does know what You're right? They are, Michael, they 1031 01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:14.359 are excluded in the rules. I personally love seventeen seventeen. I love the 1032 01:11:14.479 --> 01:11:19.399 DX man is amazing, and that's where I go whenever there's contest on twenty 1033 01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:24.439 and forty because I'm not a contester, so I love seventeen. I'm a 1034 01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:28.600 big advocate of keep seventeen Free from Contests. Yeah, no, totally. 1035 01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:30.520 We were at we were at the part. We were at Galveston Island State 1036 01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:34.319 Park one day, like a couple of years ago, and it was on 1037 01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:38.880 a Saturday, and we didn't realize this. We set up at the park. 1038 01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:43.159 It was a Frank and I and Mike Kata Murdie and a couple other 1039 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:45.880 guys. We were out there and we set up on twenty meters and twenty 1040 01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:48.840 meters was just full and there was some contest going on. I don't remember 1041 01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:51.319 what it was, and we're like, we just want to act Canada, 1042 01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:56.479 Canada something like something like that. Yeah, We're just like, we just 1043 01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.239 want to do some PODA. We don't want to do a contest. So 1044 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:01.920 we moved to seven teen. We each got fifty tow one hundred contacts each. 1045 01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:05.199 It was easy. So yeah, no, I'm totally with you on 1046 01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:11.119 the non contest bands. Twelve and seventeen. Twelve meters is fun. When 1047 01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:14.479 it's up, it's up less, it's up less often than ten meters is. 1048 01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:18.279 I love ten and twelve meters both. Fifteen is a fantastic DX band. 1049 01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:25.199 If you want to do a non work band, that's that's or a 1050 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.520 contest band that's that's got a lot of DX, do fifteen. If you 1051 01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:30.000 want to do a non contest band that's got a lot of DX, do 1052 01:12:30.119 --> 01:12:33.199 seventeen. But those are great bands. All those bands are great. So 1053 01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.439 we're going to be operating ten, fifteen, twenty forty. I don't know 1054 01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:40.680 if we're doing the eighty or not, but we're going to at least do 1055 01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:45.039 those four bands at Winterfield Day. So no, I love Evans comment because 1056 01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.800 Evan commented doing six bands is tough without the WRC bands. Still from me 1057 01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:55.399 that I don't forget there. There's a two meters, there's four forty, 1058 01:12:55.600 --> 01:13:00.000 there's two twenty sand we have privileges way above that. So we have privileges 1059 01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:04.960 in the seven hundred spectrum if you're doing like art and like ten gig hirts 1060 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:10.680 or something or two point five. Those are all amateur radio bands that are 1061 01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:14.000 valid to make contacts on. So if you guys, I don't know if 1062 01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.840 you guys know who Hayden is Ham Radio DX YouTube channel. He's down in 1063 01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:21.239 Tasmania, Australia. Okay, he's a good he's a good friend of franken 1064 01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:26.760 Our's and he was he was at hamvitchin last year, first time we met 1065 01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:28.399 him in person. We've known him for years. He is a great, 1066 01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:31.680 great dude, great dude. He was posting in Discord like a week ago 1067 01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:38.159 saying he had made a six meter contact from Tasmania, Australia to Texas. 1068 01:13:38.720 --> 01:13:44.000 So six meters is it's not it's not heavy right now, but you can 1069 01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:46.840 make contacts on six meters buddy, if they're going from down Under to Texas, 1070 01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:50.279 Hey, man, get on six meters during winterfield day. That's that's 1071 01:13:50.319 --> 01:13:55.640 six meters is totally viable. So yeah, it's it's it's it's a great, 1072 01:13:56.279 --> 01:14:00.000 great band, great band. If you get mentioned this, I didn't 1073 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:05.119 see all of the convent. Someone's commenting, has a winter field day something. 1074 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:10.159 The marine time net. A lot of people may not know that there 1075 01:14:10.159 --> 01:14:15.960 are certain frequencies that are no no slow scan TV is normally what like a 1076 01:14:15.279 --> 01:14:23.359 fourteen two thirty something like that. There's a marine time net which is fourteen 1077 01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:30.359 three hundred, and there's some frequencies just as a gentleman's agreement, you know, 1078 01:14:30.399 --> 01:14:32.760 hand radio operators stay away from them. They're monitored twenty four hours a 1079 01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:36.279 day. Either that or they're used for, you know, a certain mode 1080 01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:41.640 or something like that. Educate yourselves and make yourself aware of those, because 1081 01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:47.119 you know, we don't want anyone calling CQ Winterfield down fourteen three hundred right 1082 01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:56.319 right right, correct, correct, but good fourteen to thirty fourteen, three 1083 01:14:56.359 --> 01:15:00.920 hundred maritimes, seventy two hundred, get on, seventy two hundred seek winterfield 1084 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:05.319 Day. Just do it because those guys, those guys don't deserve a break. 1085 01:15:05.439 --> 01:15:08.239 So you know, I'm just going to say that out loud. But 1086 01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:13.479 you know, so Dan l is asking about remote stations. Are remote stations 1087 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:20.880 allowed for Winterfield Day? I would, well, you have the one hundred 1088 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:25.680 radius that you're supposed to be have all the equipment within one hundred foot radius, 1089 01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:33.359 but a thousand yeah feet yeah, But I mean if you're if you're 1090 01:15:33.439 --> 01:15:41.319 operating remote, Okay, if you're operating remote and you're in your radio and 1091 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:45.319 your antenna is all within a thousand square one thousand radius of itself, but 1092 01:15:45.359 --> 01:15:48.920 you're like a couple of states away, wouldn't that still be as long as 1093 01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:55.039 you're operating as that grid square? Would that still not be acceptable? You're 1094 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.640 using the Internet to get to that remote station, are you not, yes, 1095 01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:03.600 yes, but you're not using the Internet to contact your HF contacts. 1096 01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:10.600 That's true. The signals are originating by r S. Yeah. So we 1097 01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:13.560 have a remote station set up in Costa Rica right now that I can log 1098 01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:16.279 into right now. It's a flex radio and if I make contacts via Costa 1099 01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:19.760 Rica, it's from a radio and an antenna set up in Costa Rica. 1100 01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:25.079 So it's the transmission of r F from Costa Rica that's getting out to wherever 1101 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:30.560 it gets out to. So that's a that's a that's an actual Yeah, 1102 01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:34.399 I mean that's an actual that's an actual RF contact. So I'm curious a 1103 01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:38.199 couple of things. You know, would you say you're one home, you 1104 01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:43.279 know, West Texas, or do you now become whatever section that transmitter is 1105 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:47.000 in. It's wherever it's whatever grit square the transmitter is in. Okay, 1106 01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:51.479 it's wherever the antenna is at. Really, so so you'll you'll submit to 1107 01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:59.760 locks then what you're transmitting from remote? If you know, no one log 1108 01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:03.279 for where the transmitting antenna is, that's it. So this is a great 1109 01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:08.119 question because and the remote station, you got to do two logs. That's 1110 01:17:08.119 --> 01:17:10.479 why I was trying to drive, but you're not. You're not transmitting from 1111 01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:13.640 home. You're transmitting from the remote station. From the remote station, it 1112 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.680 doesn't matter where. You're all from the remote station, yes, but if 1113 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:19.319 you transmit also from your home station, well, does now have access from 1114 01:17:19.439 --> 01:17:24.319 that time because some of those remote stations you only have an hour or two. 1115 01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:29.279 So you do two logs for when you're doing remote transmitssion, right, 1116 01:17:29.319 --> 01:17:32.000 and we were talking ready from home, then it's a separate log. Correct. 1117 01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:38.039 The problem with that is whenever you go to submit a log, we 1118 01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:40.680 look at the call sign, we look at the twenty four hour period, 1119 01:17:41.039 --> 01:17:44.760 and now you have two different sections listed, and we're like, okay, 1120 01:17:45.399 --> 01:17:47.960 you know, one of them's wrong, and we can throw all the contacts 1121 01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:51.640 from one of them because we're like, this is the home station, and 1122 01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:57.840 you know, he recorded himself as a you know something else for or the 1123 01:17:58.079 --> 01:18:00.520 different good square, and it makes it hard for you know, if someone's 1124 01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:04.800 contacting you and your your good score changes in the middle of the day or 1125 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:08.560 your section changes in the middle of the day because he decided to get on 1126 01:18:08.560 --> 01:18:14.359 the remote station. It is a very interesting question. Uh. The one 1127 01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:17.720 thing that I would bring it back to is the spirit of winter pill day. 1128 01:18:17.800 --> 01:18:23.920 If there is a major snowstorm in the Northeast and it knocks out power 1129 01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:27.479 in Pennsylvania, you're probably not going to have the Internet to use a remote 1130 01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:32.520 station, so figure out how to do it without the Internet. Yes, 1131 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:40.760 but the likelihood of the Internet going down nation or worldwide is very remote, 1132 01:18:40.800 --> 01:18:45.640 not impossible, I'm not going to say very very remote. So if there's 1133 01:18:45.720 --> 01:18:49.840 a hurricane, say in Florida, then we here in Texas could log into 1134 01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:57.199 a remote station in South Carolina or Virginia and contact stations in Florida who have 1135 01:18:57.319 --> 01:19:02.359 set up remote stations in Florida, or set up portable stations of Florida and 1136 01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:06.479 send traffic in and out because we would be closer there than we would here 1137 01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:12.439 in Texas or whatever. So it's still feasible that you could operate MCom type 1138 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.479 situations that way because the Internet's not affected where we are, just where the 1139 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:20.720 disaster was. So it's it's very kind of I don't know, it's very 1140 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:26.680 it's a very what if situation. It's a convoluted question, and honestly, 1141 01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.800 I don't think we have actually been asked that question to this point. That 1142 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:33.239 I can recall that we've come across that someone says, hey, can we 1143 01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:36.159 do a remote station? I don't remember us as being asked that question till 1144 01:19:36.199 --> 01:19:39.760 this point, So I think this is a question we'll have to bring back 1145 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:45.399 to the board next this next summer as we start to review things for twenty 1146 01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:48.039 twenty five and go our remote station is going to be a lot or not? 1147 01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:51.640 And I don't disagree with you, Jason, I think it very well 1148 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:58.359 could be, because again, you are operating from that FUBA location that's your 1149 01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:02.600 transmitting site, not where you're transmitting from where you personally physically are. So 1150 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.399 definitely, if you are going to do it, i'd say for this year, 1151 01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:09.800 we're going to go with the standing rule that we will go from your 1152 01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:14.239 transmitting remote location site as you know, one home or whatever you're doing it 1153 01:20:14.239 --> 01:20:16.279 as, or maybe two home where if you've got two people there, whatever. 1154 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:20.439 But that's what I would say, we'd go for go for it for 1155 01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:24.479 this point because I don't know the answer that. I don't think we've come 1156 01:20:24.479 --> 01:20:29.119 across that, So that's that's an interesting takeaway. Yeah, I my vote 1157 01:20:29.159 --> 01:20:34.720 would be for if you can operate remote, Okay, if I can log 1158 01:20:34.800 --> 01:20:39.319 if I'm in Texas, if I can log into a station in North Carolina, 1159 01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:43.279 or in California, or in Canada or in Costa Rica. Costa Rica 1160 01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.000 is kind of that's not part of Winterfield Day. It's just all DA. 1161 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:51.479 Everything outside of Canada and USA is DX in Field Day and Winterfield Day. 1162 01:20:51.479 --> 01:20:56.960 So think about anything inside of Canada or inside of United the forty eight, 1163 01:20:57.039 --> 01:21:00.439 well even in the fifty says even Alaskan Hawaii. If you can operate from 1164 01:21:00.479 --> 01:21:05.720 one location to another location remotely, then as long as you're operating as the 1165 01:21:05.760 --> 01:21:13.600 grid square where the transmitting antenna is, I would say that counts that that 1166 01:21:13.640 --> 01:21:15.760 would be my vote. I'd be like, you know, if I'm in 1167 01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:21.079 Texas and I'm I'm controlling a station that's in North Carolina. Steve KO FOURFL 1168 01:21:21.159 --> 01:21:24.319 has a flex radio North Carolina. I think it's North Carolina. It might 1169 01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.640 be South Carolina, one of the Carolinas. And he's like, you can 1170 01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.039 log into my station transmit, okay, good. And if I'm operating that 1171 01:21:30.119 --> 01:21:34.680 station and I make one hundred and fifty contacts, but I'm working as that 1172 01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:40.439 grid square from the one of the Carolina states at his location and the Internet's 1173 01:21:40.520 --> 01:21:45.279 up at my location, then that's still a viable income thing in my book, 1174 01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:47.399 because it's it's like, yeah, the Internet, the Internet's not always 1175 01:21:47.439 --> 01:21:51.399 going to be up everywhere, but it's never I shouldn't say never. The 1176 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:56.960 likelihood of it being down everywhere is very very very remote. It may be 1177 01:21:57.039 --> 01:21:59.960 down in certain sections, but you know, so I've had a lot of 1178 01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:04.279 people comment on you know, and home stations are probably our number one, 1179 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:08.800 you know category. Yeah, and we get emails saying that, you know, 1180 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:12.199 I did Winterfield Day, but you know, it was amazing to hear 1181 01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.279 how many like home to home pile ups there were and stuff like that. 1182 01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.640 Yeah, I think I would advocate. And you know, if you want 1183 01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:26.560 to use a remote station, you can use a remote station to answer cqs, 1184 01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.000 but not to call CQ. So if you wanted to get long into 1185 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:33.520 a remote station and just spend all day like answering cqs from people who are 1186 01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:38.960 calling Winterfield Day, like those outdoor stations and stuff, make as many contexts 1187 01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.800 as you can, you know, give those people the contacts. But to 1188 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:49.359 log into a remote station and actually call CQ Winterfield Day yourself, that's an 1189 01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:54.479 interesting note. I don't think I agree with what you're saying, Michael, 1190 01:22:54.560 --> 01:23:00.399 but that's it's an interesting discussion, to say the least. There's a lot 1191 01:23:00.399 --> 01:23:04.039 of you here, if you're if you're transmitting from a certain side. It 1192 01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:08.800 the only thing that in my mind, the only thing that matters is where 1193 01:23:08.880 --> 01:23:14.800 is the antenna? Where is the intent, because that proves what your propagation 1194 01:23:14.960 --> 01:23:17.119 is going to be. The propagation is going to be different from an antenna 1195 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:21.279 in South Carolina than an antenna in Texas, than an antenna in Alaska or 1196 01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:26.079 Canada or Costa Rica or England. It's going to be different propagation. So 1197 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:30.479 where is your transmitting antenna and if you can get to that antenna from wherever 1198 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.960 you are, I'd say that's a viable solution. But that that's me, 1199 01:23:34.079 --> 01:23:39.119 that's my vote. So that's okay. There's a lot of people in here 1200 01:23:39.119 --> 01:23:41.720 and not I agree with that saying no internet, no remote, just don't 1201 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:44.960 do it at all, no internet, period, be done. So it's 1202 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:46.439 kind of funny we're getting a mixed I think this might be one of those 1203 01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:49.439 things we have to put out on Twitter and Facebook and do a poll and 1204 01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:53.840 just to kind of see what the general people come back. And say create 1205 01:23:53.880 --> 01:23:57.520 a new category. It's not a home station, it's not an outdoor station. 1206 01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:01.279 It's an R. You're one R. You're one remote remote. Yeah 1207 01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:05.239 yeah, maybe totally. I mean one, maybe not, because that's totally 1208 01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:10.479 a thing. Seriously, I'm dead serious when I say the Internet is not 1209 01:24:10.520 --> 01:24:15.319 going to be down everywhere. Okay, in some area and some st in 1210 01:24:15.359 --> 01:24:19.239 some areas. Hurricane, tornado, natural disaster, earthquake, blah blah blah 1211 01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:23.359 blah. Yes, it will be down in parts, but it's not the 1212 01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:29.479 likelihood of it being down nationwide is very remote. So if it's down where 1213 01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:32.920 you are at, you're in trouble because you can't do remote. Correct. 1214 01:24:32.920 --> 01:24:36.279 But that doesn't mean the guy in Arizona or the guy in California couldn't do 1215 01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:40.600 remote, which is why he should be able to answer you. But he 1216 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:44.159 shouldn't be able to call seek you help because he made help. It's an 1217 01:24:44.159 --> 01:24:50.439 interesting question. Help Where this goes? Yeah, yeah, we're gonna have 1218 01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:54.560 to bring this up. Yeah yeah, yeah. Traveler says there's too many 1219 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:58.840 rules already. And Bob, we went like thirteen or fourteen pages in the 1220 01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:01.560 rules guideline, and we've taken it down to like maybe six or eight. 1221 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:06.760 We have lessened the rules. We've taken a lot of call it garbage and 1222 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:11.840 redundancy out of those rules and try to simplify it and make it more clear 1223 01:25:11.880 --> 01:25:15.800 and and and more specific for you. So uh yeah. So so here's 1224 01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:20.920 an easy question from Gene. Is winterfield Day international? Yes, it is. 1225 01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:26.000 Stations all over the world that can that can. That's that's what makes 1226 01:25:26.039 --> 01:25:29.520 us unique from a double r L is that we have stations all over the 1227 01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:30.960 county, all over the world rake string. If you go look on our 1228 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:33.680 winter field Day, if you go out to your site and raster for your 1229 01:25:33.720 --> 01:25:39.800 winterfield Day location, Gene, we will uh basically you'll see on the map 1230 01:25:40.039 --> 01:25:44.640 there's people over there in like Bulgaria and in Europe and United Kingdom there are 1231 01:25:44.680 --> 01:25:47.399 also a rake stream for winter field days. So that that's what makes us 1232 01:25:47.439 --> 01:25:55.640 unique from a double L. Here for a second, yes, well, 1233 01:25:56.279 --> 01:26:00.760 everybody wants to do all these different modes and and this, that and the 1234 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:05.600 other. We're kind of steering away from the fact that it's for preparedness. 1235 01:26:05.920 --> 01:26:11.239 So you have these new people coming into hand rail. Now you've got youth, 1236 01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:15.720 you've got yls, you've got you know, school groups that are joining 1237 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:19.960 in, and you've got you know, different groups trying to learn hand rail. 1238 01:26:20.760 --> 01:26:25.760 If we just dive in and say with the winter field day, and 1239 01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:30.600 we're giving them all this information, all these rules and taking away from the 1240 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.600 preparedness factor, then we're losing the impetus behind hand radio, are we not? 1241 01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:41.359 I agree? I think that if I understand what you're saying, Melinda, 1242 01:26:42.319 --> 01:26:48.880 Yes, I agree. It's in an emergency as an emergency is defined 1243 01:26:49.199 --> 01:26:56.960 by ablel okay, as an emergency is defined by our license rules okay, 1244 01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:01.920 which is an immediate threat to your personal property. Okay. So I do 1245 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:09.760 a lot of stories about emergency preparedness and hand radio save lives and this kind 1246 01:27:09.800 --> 01:27:12.640 of thing. I got a comment on one of my videos a month or 1247 01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:15.119 two ago. It's been a while now, and they're like, hey, 1248 01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:17.520 this guy, this guy. We were doing a tornado net on one of 1249 01:27:17.520 --> 01:27:20.880 our local repeaters and this guy keyed up and he's like, hey, I'm 1250 01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:25.399 watching this here and there and there, and the net control said, what's 1251 01:27:25.399 --> 01:27:27.279 your call sign? The guy said, well, I don't have a call 1252 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:31.319 sign. I'm relaying information and since this emergency, I shouldn't need a call 1253 01:27:31.359 --> 01:27:34.159 sign. To transmit, and the guy was like, well, unless the 1254 01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:40.199 tornado's in your backyard, you're not under an emergency right now. Okay, 1255 01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:45.239 So it's important to understand how the FCC and the aa RO define emergency. 1256 01:27:45.520 --> 01:27:48.520 Okay, it's important to understand that. Now. Whether you agree with that 1257 01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:51.880 or not, I'm just saying it's it's important to understand how that's defined. 1258 01:27:53.319 --> 01:28:00.720 So in a true emergency, you use any and all means necessary to transmit. 1259 01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:03.800 Uh, even if that's your freaking cell phone. Okay, if your 1260 01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:08.840 if your smartphone is up and you've got a five G connection on an emergency, 1261 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:12.279 pick up your freaking phone in dollar nine to one one seriously, because 1262 01:28:12.279 --> 01:28:15.439 that's a that's a viable tool. Okay. But if you don't have that, 1263 01:28:15.520 --> 01:28:18.119 then that then you can go to other things. And that's okay, 1264 01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:25.239 but it's important to understand how that is defined. So just because we think 1265 01:28:25.239 --> 01:28:28.760 of emergency and him rated, we think of emergency as everything is down, 1266 01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:31.560 Oh my god, pick up your radio. Sometimes that might be true, 1267 01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:35.479 sometimes it may not be true. So the Internet might be available four G, 1268 01:28:35.600 --> 01:28:39.640 five G might be available, Wi Fi might be available. You don't 1269 01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:45.359 never know, So it's whatever means of communication is available to you at that 1270 01:28:45.479 --> 01:28:47.279 time. So I think, Melinda, I think that's a great I think 1271 01:28:47.279 --> 01:28:53.880 that's a great outlook on the situation. Yes, we want to encourage the 1272 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:59.039 youth. We want to encourage everybody else, right, like my husband encourage 1273 01:28:59.119 --> 01:29:04.279 my license and the selling aspect for me was the fact that it was e 1274 01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:08.239 comm you know, I could get a bubble rig in my car, and 1275 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:15.000 if there was something that I couldn't get internet or cell phone service, I 1276 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:19.439 had emergency communications readily at my hands. Right. I think that's kind of 1277 01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:25.039 what we're losing with winterfield Day, with all of these you know, do 1278 01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:29.319 this or do that thing is you know, it's to learn and be ready 1279 01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:33.520 for emergency preparitis. But if we're adding all this other stuff in there, 1280 01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:42.760 are we losing what we're really aiming for with winterfield Day. It's possible. 1281 01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:48.000 Yeah, my wife has been licensed for nine years. Her license expires in 1282 01:29:48.039 --> 01:29:51.840 February, so next month. So she's been licensed for ten years. Yours 1283 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:56.800 two frankyep So when I got her get her license, we've been married for 1284 01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:59.560 twenty one years. I said, you need to get your hand radio. 1285 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:02.600 She's like, she's smart, she's the CPA. She's got a master's degree. 1286 01:30:03.079 --> 01:30:06.640 She she's smart. She studied for like two and a half minutes, 1287 01:30:06.640 --> 01:30:10.439 and she went and took the test and she got their license. But it 1288 01:30:10.479 --> 01:30:14.079 was longer than two and a half minutes, but still she went and got 1289 01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:16.000 her license. And I put a radio in her car. And it was 1290 01:30:16.119 --> 01:30:19.039 I don't know, three or four months later, and it was winter in 1291 01:30:19.079 --> 01:30:24.680 Texas and it ice stormed. And people in North Texas do not know how 1292 01:30:24.680 --> 01:30:28.119 to drive in the ice. Okay, I'm just going to tell you that 1293 01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:30.560 right now. I've lived here for my whole life. I'm telling you right 1294 01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:34.039 now, people do not know how to There's no snow tires in North Texas. 1295 01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:39.479 It's either ice or nothing. Okay, there's no snow. So she 1296 01:30:39.720 --> 01:30:44.479 was working in downtown Fort Worth and I was working in North a little bit 1297 01:30:44.520 --> 01:30:46.119 north of Dallas, and there was an ice storm come up. It happened 1298 01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:50.560 to be a Friday. Ice storm come up about noon, eleven am or 1299 01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:56.279 twelve on a Friday. My office shut down. They're like, the storm's 1300 01:30:56.279 --> 01:31:00.520 getting bad. It's snowing outside, it's icing. It's twenty five five degrees 1301 01:31:00.520 --> 01:31:02.439 outside. Go home, okay, and her office told her and saying well, 1302 01:31:02.479 --> 01:31:04.359 I called her. I was like, hey, what are they telling 1303 01:31:04.359 --> 01:31:06.399 you? And they're like, well, they're suggesting we go home. Let's 1304 01:31:06.399 --> 01:31:11.640 go home. So she left her office in North and South fort Worth and 1305 01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:15.319 I left at in cop l which is where I was at the time. 1306 01:31:15.720 --> 01:31:18.560 Twenty minute drive for me, thirty minute drive for her on a normal day. 1307 01:31:18.600 --> 01:31:21.800 It took us both over two hours to get home. Wow. And 1308 01:31:21.399 --> 01:31:29.000 we're on the local repeaters talking to each other and to other people on you 1309 01:31:29.039 --> 01:31:30.960 know, on our drive home. We're like, hey, we're here, 1310 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:33.680 this is what the situations like, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 1311 01:31:33.720 --> 01:31:36.439 A lot of the Hurst Amateur Radio Club people Frank were on the repeaters 1312 01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:40.000 that day. We were on the Hurst repeater, we were on the South 1313 01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:44.359 fort Worth repeater. Anyway, two hours later I get home, like ten, 1314 01:31:44.439 --> 01:31:46.239 ten or fifty minutes before she does. She gets home and we're talking 1315 01:31:46.319 --> 01:31:49.439 with everything and everybody was safe and everything, and she's like she looked at 1316 01:31:49.479 --> 01:31:53.359 me, She's like, I understand, why now, why you asked me 1317 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:56.439 to get my amateur radio lissuse. She goes, I didn't get it before 1318 01:31:56.479 --> 01:32:00.760 that, but she was like able to talk to people the whole way home 1319 01:32:00.880 --> 01:32:03.199 from her car, and not just one person on the phone, but like 1320 01:32:03.319 --> 01:32:06.760 there was ten or fifteen or twenty people listening on the repeater. And if 1321 01:32:06.760 --> 01:32:10.319 she would have had an accident, well she didn't, thankfully, but she 1322 01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:12.720 would have an accident, people would be like, oh wow, oh she's 1323 01:32:12.760 --> 01:32:14.880 here and here and here called nine to one one. Okay, great, 1324 01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:19.960 but it was it was. It was a total InCom situation over VHF repeaters 1325 01:32:20.359 --> 01:32:26.000 and it worked because that's what ham radio is all about. So she understood 1326 01:32:26.000 --> 01:32:28.039 that because I told her. I was like, you need to get this, 1327 01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:30.119 and she didn't get it, whid but after that she did so and 1328 01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:32.920 she's and I need to put a radio in her new car. Now I 1329 01:32:32.920 --> 01:32:36.079 haven't done that yet, but that's my fund but yeah, I know, 1330 01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:40.319 I know I'm falling behind. But yeah, but anyway, so imcom can 1331 01:32:40.359 --> 01:32:43.560 be anything. There was no emergency that day, but two hours to get 1332 01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:47.039 home from a thirty minute drive, that's a thing. So it's it's it's 1333 01:32:47.079 --> 01:32:51.920 important to realize that emergency doesn't always mean oh my god, everything's on fire 1334 01:32:53.159 --> 01:32:57.600 and I'm gonna get shot if I leave where I'm standing, right now that 1335 01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:02.800 it's not always that. It can be anything that's mildly to extremely life threatening. 1336 01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:08.399 So there's a variance, there is all I'm saying. So Jason, 1337 01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:11.600 going back to what you know Melinda said as far as like you know, 1338 01:33:11.680 --> 01:33:15.800 the rules and encouraging people. Up until the last couple of years, whenever 1339 01:33:15.880 --> 01:33:20.560 this current board took over winterfield Day, you had to submit your log in 1340 01:33:20.600 --> 01:33:27.239 a cabrill format, which is like a contesting format and stuff. And we've 1341 01:33:27.279 --> 01:33:30.359 worked really really hard with our web designer, Like he's been working his butt 1342 01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:34.800 off doing all this coding on the back end. And you know, we 1343 01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:39.119 can now take an ad I F file, a text file, you know, 1344 01:33:39.199 --> 01:33:44.199 all the all these different formats because not everybody wants to, you know, 1345 01:33:44.319 --> 01:33:48.439 learn cabrio format. So at winterfield Day, we're trying to make things 1346 01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:54.199 easier for people to participate and to go along with the rules. Of Me 1347 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:57.640 and my brother talked about this just today. You know, the term rules, 1348 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:02.520 and you know, I'm an advocate for changing it to guidelines or something 1349 01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:06.520 else, because yeah, they're not hard. We say it's a thousand foot, 1350 01:34:06.600 --> 01:34:11.800 it's not it is a thousand foot, but that's a thousand foot guideline 1351 01:34:13.199 --> 01:34:17.279 R and you know, we don't want you guys to get hung up on 1352 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:21.000 Oh you know, this is the points, is the multiplier, this is 1353 01:34:21.039 --> 01:34:24.920 what I have to do. You know, take a look at the objectives. 1354 01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.479 If you can achieve any of them, that's great, Hey, good 1355 01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:30.960 for you, congratulations. Push yourself. If you can't achieve the other ones, 1356 01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:34.279 try to achieve them. But don't get hung up on the rules. 1357 01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:39.000 Don't get hung up on the multipliers. Don't get hung up on making you 1358 01:34:39.039 --> 01:34:44.319 know, ten thousand contacts. It's not about any of the first half of 1359 01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:49.840 the rules that you read. It's more about you know, achieving the objectives 1360 01:34:49.840 --> 01:34:54.800 and pushing yourself. And we're trying to put those out there as guidelines just 1361 01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:58.479 so that everyone has the same exchange. When we go to process the logs, 1362 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.239 the information is the same. You know, there has to be a 1363 01:35:00.600 --> 01:35:08.039 set of you know, standards and guidelines. But don't get hung up on 1364 01:35:08.079 --> 01:35:12.680 the rules. I also wanted to mention ham Radio Hobby said he couldn't register 1365 01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:17.960 his site because in Guatemala. Shoot us an email winterfield Day at winterfield day 1366 01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:24.119 dot com or w f d A w f d A at winterfield Day dot 1367 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:28.279 com I will have our web designer looking to that and figure out why you 1368 01:35:28.319 --> 01:35:31.520 can't register your site. We're always trying to find bugs. We have a 1369 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:36.800 discord channel for beta testing because we're always trying to find bugs, because we're 1370 01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:43.039 trying to push our boundaries within an organization. You know, a new mapping 1371 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:46.279 system that's faster for people to access, a new log submission system that makes 1372 01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:50.399 it easier for people to use. You know, we really want you to, 1373 01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:55.079 you know, participate if you've never done it before. Don't think that, 1374 01:35:55.239 --> 01:35:57.760 oh, I'm not going to be able to participate because I don't know 1375 01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:01.000 what the rules are. I don't know this. You know, even if 1376 01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.800 you get out there and make five contacts and go to our web page and 1377 01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:10.000 submit ADIF file that has five contacts in it cools to you. You know 1378 01:36:10.439 --> 01:36:14.920 we want that, Yes, yep, absolutely with the contacts and then you 1379 01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:17.319 know, maybe you're able to achieve five contacts, but you're able to do 1380 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:20.640 ten objectives, you know, so you know, it's again kind of that 1381 01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:27.159 personal training. And you know how many people I mean literally in this channel 1382 01:36:27.239 --> 01:36:30.359 right now can go out and set up an effective wind link station in a 1383 01:36:30.439 --> 01:36:35.399 tent, in a mobile in their vehicle, you know whatever, and actually 1384 01:36:35.479 --> 01:36:40.880 be able to operate a wind link station as we talk, and I know 1385 01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:45.640 I probably couldn't even offhand myself, so that's kind of one of my goals 1386 01:36:45.640 --> 01:36:46.680 to be able to set up myself. This year, I'm going to be 1387 01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:53.560 visiting the Side Tech Amateur Radio Society out in Middle Massachusetts. I think it's 1388 01:36:53.560 --> 01:36:56.640 a natick. They've invited me out there for their Winter field Day this year, 1389 01:36:56.640 --> 01:36:59.840 So we'll see how I'll try and be operating from there. But we 1390 01:37:00.039 --> 01:37:03.359 should be fun and kind of looking forward to see how that can work and 1391 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:09.119 joining in a couple of groups and make some contacts and so. But you 1392 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:11.439 know, those are things that we want to be able to just encourage people 1393 01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:16.439 to try and set up and do on their own. Overall, totally absolutely, 1394 01:37:16.840 --> 01:37:21.279 guys, this has been an excellent informational live stream tonight again. Winterfield 1395 01:37:21.359 --> 01:37:29.760 Day is two weeks from yesterday one pm Texas time, which is two pm 1396 01:37:29.800 --> 01:37:36.399 East coast and eleven am West Coast time. That's right, nineteen hundred UTC 1397 01:37:38.479 --> 01:37:44.279 Saturday to eighteen fifty nine UTC on Sunday, two weeks from yesterday. Yep, 1398 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.880 So that's the thing so thank you to everybody who joined tonight. Michael, 1399 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:51.800 Uh, Melinda, Marvin, thank you guys for joining tonight. This 1400 01:37:51.920 --> 01:37:56.960 is always great information. On last thing in Yeah, yeah, go ahead, 1401 01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:00.199 man, go ahead. We are five o' one c three. Your 1402 01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:05.000 donations are accepted and tax deductible, and we do have operating costs. We're 1403 01:38:05.079 --> 01:38:10.079 sitting pretty decent right now, but we do pay for website designer that helps 1404 01:38:10.119 --> 01:38:13.720 us with our database. We pay for Melchimp to be able to get our 1405 01:38:13.720 --> 01:38:16.199 newsletter. You can sign up for our newsletters. We'll send your reminders about 1406 01:38:16.199 --> 01:38:20.439 the winterfield Day as the year comes up, so uh you know, yeah, 1407 01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:24.760 please subscribe to us as well. And thank you for being on here, 1408 01:38:24.800 --> 01:38:27.279 and thanks for everybody joining. The great questions that came through the chat. 1409 01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:31.159 That was wonderful, and thanks again Jason for hosting us. Absolutely yeah. 1410 01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:34.560 So here's the donation button on the winterfield Day website. Just scroll down 1411 01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:45.000 on the on the front page. Gosh, have a shout out to Icon. 1412 01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:49.199 We appreciate uh their support too. Yes, yeah, Ray Noback was 1413 01:38:49.239 --> 01:38:51.600 in my chat last week, but he's not here tonight. I don't know 1414 01:38:51.680 --> 01:38:55.199 why. I must have pissed him off. It's not the first time. 1415 01:38:55.560 --> 01:39:00.399 No, he's supporting, he's supporting winning. No, he's yeah, yeah, 1416 01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:03.760 I com Icon is a great supporter of winterfield Day. So I'm just 1417 01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:08.600 I'm just teasing Ray because he knows. Absolutely so. Yeah, so go 1418 01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:12.560 out there and make a donation right here on the winterfield Day website and uh 1419 01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:16.119 and uh you know whatever you whatever you feel like doing. So, guys, 1420 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:21.319 thank you once again for tonight. This was fun. Maybe maybe we'll 1421 01:39:21.359 --> 01:39:27.319 do a follow up sometime in February after winterfield Day to say, here's what 1422 01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:30.479 we did, Here's what we learned, here's what we saw. What kind 1423 01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:32.159 of comments do we want to get from the community. Maybe we can try 1424 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:36.000 early March after we get our stats in can see how many. That's great, 1425 01:39:36.119 --> 01:39:40.520 that's great. Yeah. Yeah, after ham Cash, it's gonna be 1426 01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:44.319 busy. It's gonna be busy from winterfield Day. Am ks for me anyway, 1427 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:48.640 Jason, am I going to see you? Yeah freaking break and I 1428 01:39:48.880 --> 01:39:55.359 and Mike and uh other Mike and a couple of yeah, yeah, several 1429 01:39:55.359 --> 01:39:57.840 of this would be there. Absolutely, Yeah, we'll be there. We'll 1430 01:39:57.880 --> 01:40:01.000 be there at the Polaris. I got some brand new items for polar items. 1431 01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:06.039 I got little lord little pins, little pins that have the Pola logo 1432 01:40:06.079 --> 01:40:10.760 on them. I have writing pins. I've got all kinds of new stuff. 1433 01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.960 So come see me at the Polar Base. We we talked about ham 1434 01:40:14.039 --> 01:40:18.600 Club hamgear online before you got here, man, so are club gear online. 1435 01:40:18.720 --> 01:40:21.840 That's a club gear on you online, you know, to make it 1436 01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:28.800 easy. I also own a PoTA gear dot com. Gear dot com. 1437 01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:32.640 That's good, so awesome, Hey, we we will absolutely come see you 1438 01:40:32.680 --> 01:40:36.680 and talk to you at handcasion. Frank and I will be there and a 1439 01:40:36.720 --> 01:40:41.319 bunch of other people as well. So uh, thanks for hey, seriously, 1440 01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.319 thanks to all three of you for being here tonight. This is always 1441 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:46.279 fine. We had a lot of we had a great turnout and chat tonight. 1442 01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:49.560 So it's a it's a fun event. And uh, if you are 1443 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:55.359 in the Galveston area or near the Galveston area, come down to Galveston Island 1444 01:40:55.359 --> 01:40:58.119 State Park the weekend of Winterfield Day. You're welcome to join us and sit 1445 01:40:58.199 --> 01:41:00.560 down at the radio if you want to, or just watch us. You 1446 01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:01.960 don't have to sit down and talk if you don't want to, just hang 1447 01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:06.039 out with us, smoke a cigar, drink some beer, beer's not allowed 1448 01:41:06.039 --> 01:41:09.039 in the state park, but don't tell them that. We don't care. 1449 01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:14.600 And we'll be in a quart Site Arizona with all the our beers and stuff 1450 01:41:14.600 --> 01:41:16.039 like that. I'll be in quart Site and I'll tell you what. It's 1451 01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:20.239 going to be a long drive from Fort Site, Arizona to Orlando, Florida, 1452 01:41:20.279 --> 01:41:23.439 but we'll see you guys there. I'll tell you what I was in 1453 01:41:23.560 --> 01:41:27.600 court se last I was in court site last year, and I'm not going 1454 01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.159 this year, and apparently everybody else is going this year, so I don't 1455 01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:34.079 know and say hi, Yeah, Vernon t o be a court site, 1456 01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:38.920 so they're all fantastic, awesome, Probably gonna go back next year. We'll 1457 01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:43.439 see winter field Day coins. I have a PoTA coin. I need a 1458 01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:45.359 I need a field Day. You guys need to do winter field Day coins 1459 01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:54.279 coins. That'd be awesome. We can do that. Do that email Frank 1460 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:59.600 or me for the places where we are coins printed. All right, yeah, 1461 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:01.840 yeah, we'll shoot your message. Shooting the message. So seventy three 1462 01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:04.840 guys, Thank you everybody for joining, and everyone have a good night, 1463 01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:10.880 stay warm because it's fifteen. It's fourteen degrees right now in North Text do 1464 01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:14.960 you have snow. No, no, it's just colder. It's colder, 1465 01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:18.880 Nell. You can keep it. It's clear, it's clear sky cleo sky. 1466 01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:24.399 No. I would I would like to have snow. If we had 1467 01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:27.439 snow, it would be worth it. It's just clear skies and colder Nell. 1468 01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:30.479 Oh my god. So yeah, yeah, that's the thing. So 1469 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:34.359 seventy three guys, thanks for joining us tonight. So Hi,