This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI AM six forty the Gary
and Shannon Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. I still need to hear
your story. Well, up until Saturday at about four o'clock three forty five,
I had a great story about a rouse snake. Well not that one,
which one the new family member. Oh? Oh, that yes,
Actually, we had such a great It was such a great afternoon. My
son came over with his lady friend and and that's the first time you met
her. That's the first time I met her. And Fingers, his roommate.
I don't know about that show. She kept her shoes on, so
I don't know abouts of toes, but yes, fingers and my daughter is
obviously she's home for the summer, so it was the It was probably more
time. We spent more time with our kids yesterday than we did on Christmas.
That's great. Had your daughter met your son's girlfriend him? What did
she Her review is the most important? Great? Great, Yeah, very
super nice and easy to talk to. She's very that's great. And then
his roommate and his roommate and the roommate's wife were there as well. The
girl pregnant or not yet. No, not yet no, okay, So
there's that to look forward to. But they'll have She had really beautiful eyes
and so the baby would have beautiful eyes, wonderful. I don't know what
else, but I just bet on the eyes. That's what I would bet
on. Okay, here you go. Republican National Convention begins today in Milwaukee,
and the expectation is that former President Trump will announce who his vice presidential
running mate will be sometime within the next couple of hours. Now, he
usually doesn't speak till Wednesday or Thursday. Right Thursday, Wednesday was supposed to
be when Donald Trump Junior speaks, So there was a lot of speculation,
since he's a big jd Vance guy, that if the pick was jd Vance,
they would have Donald Trump Junior introduce JD Vance. Now they can still
do that. They can make the announcement. Now, Now, does Trump
come out onto this stage and make the announcement? I don't know, don't.
I wouldn't think so. I don't think they have people there yet.
No. I would think they would wait till a primetime thing for the President
to actually make it out onto the stage. He's there, he's already in
Milwaukee. They made the plans. Yesterday he put on the true social that
he had thought about taking a couple of days to kind of rest up after
what happened on Saturday. What an anticipated appearance this is, I think probably
one of the most anticipated experiences or performances or whatever it's going to be when
it makes his remarks that I can ever remember, because he's got you mean
on Thursday or tonight, because I think he I honestly expect him to get
out there on the stage whenever we hear from him next. It's the most
anticipated. He has got the agency right now is the responsibility. He has
got all the power and all the oxygen in the room. What will he
do with it? That's the big question. Does he come out there?
I mean, he's alluded to the fact that he's going to come out there
and say we need to come together as a country. But what's going to
be his vibe? Right for lack of a better word. Is he going
to be pissed off? Is he going to be demure? Is he going
to be grateful? What's that tone going to be? I think the farther
we get away from the actual shooting from the assassination attempt, the less it
will be, I feel like there will be an anger element that kind of
comes back to it. Yeah, because almost like stages of grief, there
are stages after an event like that. I've never experienced a near death thing
where I mean, you saw him immediately get up and pump his fist in
the air, and I was shocked by that. That led me to initial
conspiracy theories because to have that wherewithal in that moment, and then to not
listen to your secret service detail who are trying to move you off the stage.
You don't know who else is out there. There could be another guy
in front of you or wherever. If some of the bullets got through,
there could be more. So I'll play for you later in the show.
Doug Mills is the New York Times. I think it's Doug Doug Mills,
the New York Times photographer who was just in front of the stage and was
taking pictures of the President at the moment the shooting happened, and appears to
have caught the bullet after it went through his ear. I mean, it's
a dramatic photo, but he described those moments after the shooting. Secret Service
goes piles on top of the president the way they're supposed to. They all
surround him in a big huddle, the way they're supposed to. They all
have bulletproof vests on. I don't know if he did it or not at
the time, but they're smaller than him in some cases he's that's another question.
Why you know he's six' three your Secret Service agent exactly. But
the photographer said that there was a moment when he's snapping pictures and you see
that angered face, the adrenaline of somebody tried to take me out a fist
in the air fight fight fight, and then he said he changed and there
was a moment where like he lost all color and realized sort of what was
going on, and then you could see then you could see that's when the
Secret Service is able to get him down the steps and put him into the
car and take off. So he was in a state of shock and that's
how he reacted and then realized what had gone down. But the but the
fist in the air fight fight fight was pure adrenaline. I cannot imagine what
was coursing through his body at that moment. And you don't even know how
hurt you are. Do you You know you were hit by something, but
what kind of damage to it do I don't know. I don't know what
that would be like. I mean, that's part of the assessment that the
Secret Service agents are trained to do. Once they get him on the ground,
they immediately check him. I mean they did that when Reagan was shot.
They talk about running their hands around Reagan's ribcage basically to find out where
the hole was. And in Trump's case, I'm assuming that the first thing
they're going to do if blood is coming from his head they don't know it's
just his ear, They're going to check and make sure that it's not deeper
than that flush wound. We did hear from former Secret Service leaders about how
common it is at these events to be given a heads up, Oh there's
a SUSPICI suspicious guy over there, there's a suspicious vehicle or what have you,
and that there is a danger to overreacting. So we'll talk about that
as well. Just a quick note again, Judge Aleen Cannon out of Florida
has dismissed the federal criminal case against Donald Trump that charged him with taking classified
documents. Ninety three page ruling came out, so I'm assuming hading to do
with the timing of the events of the weekend, but concluded that Jack Smith's
appointment actually violated the appointments clause of the Constitution. Now Jack Smith can totally
appeal this. Yes, it could easily go to the Supreme Court. It's
probably likely that it goes to the Supreme Court, so that we have some
sort of clarification on this strange times. I'm getting hungry, are you?
Yeah, I have an apple, but I'm going to eat the apple.
Then don't tell me that you have an apple, because it makes it sound
like it's up for public consumption. Sorry, and it's not clearly I am.
I will be eagerly anticipating whatever the congressional hearings look like later This well
be the beginning of next week. That's when they expect to have the head
of the Secret Service before a congressional panel or One of our friends, Jen
texted us that she recently read a book called anti Fragile by Nicholas Talib and
she says Trump is really the absolute definition of anti fragile. As the author
described it, a person who gains from attacks. The more you attack,
the stronger they get. Love him or hate him. He has now faced
every possible obstacle up to the point of attempted assassination, and then he only
gets stronger. Yeah, I mean, you can't argue it. The prevailing
sentiment Saturday night into Sunday morning was he just went up another ten points in
the polls. Yeah, and there were a couple Listen, there were two
highlights I think that I saw in terms of what happened. One of them
was the fact that President Biden came out Saturday afternoon pretty quickly, and it
wasn't a long news conference, and he was in Delaware when he did it,
so he didn't have the pomp and circum stance of doing it from the
White House. But when Biden came out Saturday afternoon said he absolutely detested the
attack and that he had reached out to Donald Trump to talk to him and
see how he was doing. Later, they did, in fact connect by
phone, and President Trump had said it was perfectly cordial and he thanked to
the President for calling him. The other thing was Milania Trump's statement from yesterday.
Did you read that I did? It was beautiful. I mean,
in an event where or at a time when she had every right to be
completely out of her mind angry. That's not where she went. I don't
know if she I'm sure there were times where she probably felt that, but
she had every right to just completely blast everybody on the other side of the
political aisle, or whoever she perceived as behind the attack or whatever part of
the problem. I mean, they've of all the evolved, and I don't
really think that it's not like you and your wife, you know. I
don't think that their relationship. I don't think that she is I don't think
they have a traditional marriage. I think they leave separate lives for a large
A lot of these political couples do lead separate lives for a number of reasons.
One of the reasons is there's just not enough time that he has to
spend with her and the family and what have you. But I don't know.
Their relationship to me, has always been a little bit disjointed, and
I don't know if it's a traditional marriage or how close they really are.
But she was very eloquent, and my understanding is that the she Milania Trump
spoke with Jill Jill Biden yesterday as well, well, and just think the
last video we saw of Trump was him in that golf cart with his son.
That's not going to happen anymore. I mean, I think that's top
of mind for her, is all the events that her son has then with
him. And now. I don't believe that this shooter was somebody who was
moved by democratic vitriol. I think this was a crazy kid with this prefrontal
cortex not developed, who had access to guns and ammo, I think we've
seen it before, we'll see it again. I don't think he was moved
to do this by some sort of democratic underworld. But that said, it
can also put ideas in people's heads that this is a possibility if they do
want to take this guy out. And if my kid is part of the
family unit, you better believe he's not going to be anywhere on this campaign
trail. Yeah, which, if Trump is elected president again, I wouldn't
be surprised if Milania and Baron are nowhere near Washington, DC exactly. Again,
one of the big headlines from today, outside of the attempted assassination of
a former president and candidate for president, outside of the fact that that same
guy wearing bandages on his ear. Is probably going to announce a vice presidential
pick today before the convention starts. We had a huge dismissal of one of
the cases against Donald Trump. Judge A Leen Cannon dismissed the federal criminal case
against Trump that charged him with taking classified documents illegally. Remember these were the
pictures we saw from mar A Lago with the bad carpeting of just boxes of
stuff. And I always was operating under the idea that he likes to take
souvenirs, like why wouldn't you take stuff from your oval office or whatever?
And did it unknowingly that you know it was going to be something illegal.
She wrote in her ninety three page ruling that it's kind of like the old
standing argument, right it is, it doesn't it doesn't say, it doesn't
address the documents now, she wrote, the Court is convinced that Special Counsel's
Smith's prosecution of this action breaches two structural cornerstones of our constitutional scheme, the
role of Congress and the appointment of constitutional officers, and the role of Congress
and authorizing expenditures by law. That Jack Smith had no business being appointed to
oversee this Essentially yeah, this is Members of Congress have come out and immediately
suggested that Jack Smith appeal this, which is probably likely. I mean,
it doesn't change the calendar on this other than it extends it. It's well
passed. Whatever November would be or whenever the start date should have been for
this. Chuck Schumer, majority leader in the Senate, said that Smith should
appeal, demanded that the case be assigned to a different judge because he says
Judge Cannon cannot handle the case impartially and must be reassigned. The trial already
pretty unlikely to get under way before November, and now it's going to be
pushed back even further because the Supreme Court is likely going to be involved in
this as they get deeper into all of this. Okay, coming back,
One of the iconic images that we saw from Saturday was a New York Times
photographer who was in front of the stage where Trump was speaking when he was
shot. And there is an image that Doug Mills was able to catch of
what appears to be the bullet streaking behind his head, behind the president's head,
former president, and he has an amazing literal first eye, what do
you call it? First person witness perspective on what happened right arm man head.
He was there, He was there, He was there. Reports this
morning say that former President Trump plans to announce his running mate to day,
that it could happen at the convention in Milwaukee. Those who have become the
final contenders appear to be jd Vance, Doug Bergham, Mark A. Rubio,
and Tim Scott. This is I don't think any of those guys would.
I don't know if any of them create fireworks more than the others.
No one that's like, I think we're all fire worked out. I think
it's nothing that could elevate the attention around this campaign. Right now. We
are just about I think it's about ten minutes away from ten to fifteen minutes
away from the actual opening of the convention itself. It's great news for Joe
Biden. Nobody's talking about him, and it is mental acuity anymore. Yeah,
that's completely been blown off the front page. So outside of the video
which we now have, we saw it on Saturday of the President in mid
speech, having been clipped on the air with a bullet going down, Secret
Service piling on top of him, fist pumping flags in the background. There's
some iconic still images that have come out. One of them was referenced just
a short time ago somebody who's calling in to say, hey, Gary Chan
John down in Orange County. Have you seen that other photograph of Trump with
the blood on his face where it's taken from the point of view of like
he's on the bottom of the pile and it's just kind of a picture of
his face and you can tell he's buried by Secret Service guys, but he's
looking down at the ground. It's really kind of an aerie picture. But
it's pretty good photograph. Yeah, it's taken from basically from stage level.
One of the photographers down on that side of the stage, and his face
is down. You could see the blood starting to come down the right side
of his cheeks, and it's basically just butts and legs of the Secret Service
agents that are around him, the bottoms of their shoes as they have tackled
him, and you know, covering them, covering him with their bodies.
It almost looks because his hands are like this, it almost looks like he's
praying. Maybe maybe he is. Doug Mills is a photographer of the York
for the New York Times, who is credited with a couple of other very
iconic images from what happened on Saturday. One of them is he was down
in front of the stage looking up to the former president and said that he
was taking pictures of him basically so he could get the flags in the background.
That's easy framing for a picture like that. And he was on Fox
News this morning he's at the convention in Milwaukee, and spoke to the anchors
about what he was doing to set up those shots. It was a huge
flag waving right above his head, and I just happened to be taking pictures
at the same time. And then when I heard the pops, I just,
I guess I kept hitting on the shutter, and then I saw him
reach for his you know, he grim missed it and grabbed his hand and
looked through his blood. And then he went down, and I thought,
dear God, he's been shot, because at first I didn't know that those
were gunshots. It was just a weird sound to me. And once he
went down, I just, you know, ran around. He ran to
the side of the podium to try and see him, and in those split
seconds he was already covered by the Secret Service completely blanketed and I couldn't.
All I could see was them and I'm holding their guns, and guns are
out everywhere, and everybody's yelling get down, get down, get down,
active shoot or active shore. It was just like I mean, and I
probably did not do the smartest thing by running right at it, but that's
what he did. The other image is of the President a millisecond after he
was hit by the bullet, and the image that Doug caught at that time
was the President looking off to the right towards what we now know was this
giant screen. He had a big graph up on the screen talking about immigration,
and behind his head you can see the streak of the bullet, and
he talked about He didn't even realize he caught that image. At first,
we were ushered into a tent, as you know, an off stage private
tent where the President was right before the event, and I was sending pictures
into an editor of the President coming off with that you know, defiant fist
pump, and I wanted to make sure those got out. And then it
dawned to me. I was like, oh, hell, I remember taking
pictures of him when this happened. Let me go back and look. So
I started looking at her and I started sending them, sent them right away,
and I called one of the editors, said, please look at these
really closely. This might have been near the moment where he was shot.
And so she called me back like five minutes later and said, you won't
believe this. And this what she goes. We actually see a bullet flying
behind his head. And I was like, oh my gosh, what an
image. Well, Donald Trump not only wants to energize his voting base,
he is now going after Robert F. Kennedy Junior votes. He's calling today
for Secret Service protection asap now. He posted on truth Social He said,
in light of what's going on in the world today, I believe it is
imperative that Robert F. Kennedy Junior received Secret Service protection immediately. Given the
history of the Kennedy family, this is the obvious thing to do. So
one of the issues that's going to be brought up in the congressional hearings next
week, and I assume before then is going to be what kind of protection
detail is afforded former presidents and candidates presidential candidates, and when do they come
up with a more formal process by which these people get Secret Service protection.
Are their different levels of Secret Service protection that they get. Does the sitting
president have more protection than the former president does? Obviously that we know that,
but would they change any of that going forward? There was an interview
that we played on Saturday while it was happening. RFK Junior was being interviewed
I believe it was on CNN, and he was asked about I mean,
his family has experience with assassinations. Unfortunately, his uncle was killed in nineteen
sixty three, his own father was killed in nineteen sixty eight here in LA
and he referred to having he was I think he said he was ten when
JFK was killed, and he would have been fourteen or so when his father
was killed, and he said he was with his dad that night, Yeah,
at the hotel downtown LA when Sir Hans Sir Hon killed him. And
this so his family, unfortunately intimately knows the power of political violence like this.
And he asked last year for protection from the Biden White House or Department
of Homeland Security. However, however, he wants to say it and was
denied simply because at the time he wasn't considered a big enough candidate. Yeah,
but I mean, you have to take account the family history. It's
not unlike some of the crazy people we have walking around that want to be
a footnote in history by killing another Kennedy. Yeah, and he's just for
the notoriety. And then one last thing from Doug Mills, I wanted to
play for you, And this was his description of what happened in those moments
after the shooting, secret services piled on him and the images of the fist
in the sky, and then this recognition seeing the president almost have a realization
like I almost just died. And when he when he came in, obviously
I didn't know how seriously he was injured. And then so I started thinking
my mind, oh my gosh, they you know, having done this for
many years, they have to have an egress. They're gonna have to take
him off somewhere. So I went to the closest steps, thinking, okay,
they're going to take him there. And when I saw him lift him
up, I was like, dear god, he's alive. Okay, great,
it's good. And then I saw his hand kind of come through and
then I was like, oh my gosh, that yep. There he is.
And then when he gave that defiant fist pump. You know, it's
just one of those incredible moments, like he was so mad and so defiant
and like, you know, and then he said fight, fight, fighting,
you know. And then there was like this stark moment right after that
where he you know, was like it must have just like all of a
sudden come to him. He hit him like he was like completely drained and
looked at him and he could see a sea of people scattering everywhere, chanting
us exactly yep. And that guy was feet away the entire time. Crazy
Secret Service says there will be increased security in Milwaukee, even more than they
had planned for the RNC this week, following the events of the weekend.
Director Kimberly cheetles as the security plan for the four day event has been bolstered.
We have reviewed and strengthened the security plan since the assassination attempt. They're
doing something called convention Fest today starts at about noon our time, the official
Delegate Experience. I have the master calendar Master Event calendar for the RNC.
They were supposed to gavel in at twelve forty five their time, which was
four minutes ago, and they haven't for the official sessions. But apparently Trump
spoke with Fox News is Brett baar Or yesterday and he was the one Trump
told him that today was the day for a vice presidential pick. So that's
what we're expecting sometime in the next few hours. Who knows if it's a
primetime thing or what Trump can pick whoever he damn wants now. Yeah,
you know, there's no uh, you know, there's no one who's going
to bolster the ticket more than the name at the top after what happened.
You know, if you if you were going to pick Marco Rubio to kind
of woo the Latino vote, you don't need to do that. Yeah,
you don't need to do any of that. You can pick your favorite and
if jd. Vance is the favorite, that's gonna be who it is.
Well, we're gonna have coverage of the Republican National Convention throughout throughout the week.
Joining us now from Milwaukee is one of those working with the Trump campaign.
Is me. He cooked, Thanks for taking time for us today.
Hi, thanks so much for having me. Hey, this has got to
be an odd time. I don't know what the expectation was going into the
convention this week. But what's the conversation been since you've been there on the
ground in Milwaukee. Look, I think it's been twofold one that President Trump
is a warrior that has continued to unify the party. We had party unity
before, and we also had a lot of individual voters that probably never voted
for a Republican until President Trump because they are seeing record high inflation an open
border. But I truly believe that assassination attempt changed everything. Everything President Trump
said from the get go, which is law fair. People are weaponizing the
system against me. If they can do it to me, they can do
it to you. Truly showed the American people that he was right all along.
So we're truly counting our blessings. But we're also getting right back to
what's important, which is the future of our country, peace, prosperity,
and making sure that we have safety and security. You're from Ohio. What
do you think about the possibility of all the talk around JD. Vance being
the pick today? Look, I'll tell you from Ohio, there's a lot
of excitement. I think that JD. Vance is a young up and comer
that has continued to prove his conservative background. He has continued to represent Ohio
proudly, and we have to counter every single thing that Senator shared Brown does
in the state of Ohio. He has been a tired, washed up politician
of fifty years who has continued to rubber stamp Joe Biden's policies from open borders
to Bidenomics. He has refused to work for the working class. So a
man like jd Vance, who comes from while Ohio was once a swing state
but next to swing states like Pennsylvania, Michigan and others, shows you truly
that he could be the man for the job. But I've said this,
I think it's going to be an outsider. I truly think it may be
somebody that nobody's talking about. And I'm not a betting person, so I
have not taken any bets on President Trump's VP. Pick Hey Cook is a
Trump campaign surrogate there at the RNC. And what's it like in the Trump
realm? I mean, is there a lot of jockeying among the surrogates to
get a position in what seems to be more likely than ever the future administration.
Is there a lot of jockeying behind the scenes? There. Honestly,
there hasn't been a single conversation that I have heard between farrogate, between people
walking around. Every single person has been talking about making America wealthy again.
That has been our priority to make sure that we get President Trump's message out
because what we have truly seen in mainstream media is first we talked about a
senile president Joe Biden and the fact that he couldn't finish sentences. Then we
talked about an assassination attempt, which has been brutal. Now we're talking about
the Secret Service and firing a director, But what nobody is talking about is
a pastor prosperity. So this on the ground, from delegates to alternate,
to sarrogates, to every single person that is here that I have met and
converse with, it's truly talking about thanking God that President Trump is alive,
and about the agenda and making sure that we reach every single American and pull
them over to our side, because we need unity now more than ever.
One of the things that President Trump has apparently said is that whatever speech he
was going to give on Thursday, he's torn it up and that he is
going to start over or has started over in terms of the message that he
wants to send. Do you think he's going to take this opportunity to do
that, to extend that hand to people who otherwise didn't like him, or
don't like him or won't like him, but that there's a wide swath of
people that he might be able to convince on Thursday night to come over to
his side. I truly believe that. And I think he signaled to the
American people where his heart is out of speech. He's torn it up,
and he is about unity and how to bring more people over and how to
reach out and speak to them. And you know what, none of this
is scripted. Look at what happened after that assassination attempt. There was no
script that said get up as you just got shot in the ear, put
your fist up in the air and say fight, fight fights. If he
wanted to show the American people he was okay and everything was going to be
okay, and that's the kind of man he is. So I think this
is his moment to shine and unite and he's going to do that. He's
going to make sure that Americans know he is standing with us, he is
standing for us, and that prosperity as possible. I am really excited.
This is one of those defining moments in campaigns and history and for his legacy.
Now, are you anticipating any surprises or do you think that this vice
presidential pick will will be that surprise. I think the vice presidential pick is
going to be a surprise. But look, I've been wrong. I could
be wrong again. I just think and it Trump holds his cards to the
best. I think there's been jockeying and a lot of political operatives that are
pushing their guy or girl. But at the end of the day, I
think President Trump is going to make a pick that is going to unify the
country and against my personal opinion, and he's going to surprise a lot of
people. Well, have fun this week. We've been to conventions. We
know that they can be a lot of fun. MIHK Cook is one of
the surrogates for the Trump campaign. Thank you for your time, Thanks for
having me. You bet a couple things. Just in notes that while we
were talking with her, sources had told Fox that Rubio is not the choice
for a vice president, so you can cross that name off the list,
apparently, And a Trump campaign text has gone out that says I have not
decided yet. Oh my goodness, well he said. He said in that
recent interview that it was just like The Apprentice, and if you watch that
show, he changed his mind all the time. Yeah, it's kind of
the whole shtick of it. I mean, I like her idea that there's
a wild card that we don't know about you. That would be interesting,
is it? You? Are you just not sharing this with me? Why
would I Why would I want that job? I don't know. I mean
the air track. You would have to take that job. If somebody offered
you a chance to be vice president of the United States, you would have
to take that job. It's your civic duty. It's your duty as an
American Land of the Free, Home of the Dodgers. Wait, what how
are they doing? I don't know. Are they playing today? No,
it's the All Star break? Oh that's right, Home Run Derby tonight or
something. Yes, that's gonna be for play the Death of Music for America.
I meant to play this and I well, that was a Freudian slip
right there. It's big fat thumbs, that's what that was, all right.
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