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we can dive into this question,
the one I'm really sorting hanging on lately.

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What is Colin Sexton worth? Is
he underrated? How much is he

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worth to the Cavaliers. What is
going to be the end result of restricted

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free agency for him? I feel
like we Look, he's coming back from

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a torn meniscus in his left knee, had surgery on that. If you're

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the Calves, I get being concerned
about where he fits into your team.

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You have Karis Lavert. You also
saw that you really did miss the type

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of offense that he brings during the
playoffs. And so I'm puzzled by that

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report from Chris Pador. They've essentially
offered a three year, forty million dollars

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deal. I don't know if that
is more indicative of how they view his

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fit, how they view him,
just value his value as a player overall.

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Is it hedging against the injury.
If he's going to sign for that

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little, he shoul apply, try
and get it to be shorter one plus

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one or two plus one, hit
free agency again after rebooting his value.

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We're talking about someone who just missed
most of his age twenty three season.

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He's not old by any stretch.
Maybe even just sign your qualifying offer at

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this point and bet on yourself.
There's still time. There's the Pacers,

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the Spurs, they have cap space. They could throw him an offer sheet.

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You could also work out sign and
trades base. Your compensation makes it

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difficult. It's not impossible. But
the central focus here is should is Sexton

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getting a raw deal? Yeah?
I know you can say that the market

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is whatever your market value is,
whatever the actual markets willing to pay for

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you. Okay, fine, and
cap space dried up relatively quickly because they

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didn't even really exist around free free
agency. This summer business is being held

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up by the Kevin Durant and Donovan
Mitchell stuff. If the Spurs or Pacers

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were going to get in on the
Sexton sweep stakes, you have to imagine

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that they would do so now.
But it also probably speaks to how valuable

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Colin Sexton is to the Cavaliers that
we haven't heard a bunch of sign and

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trade talks like the Calves not being
open to that. Maybe they are more

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open to it, but they're probably
not because Karris Lavert, he's a free

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agent after next year extension knowledgeable right
now, and Sexton is important to the

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team. And so you look at
the criticisms of him, and I've listened

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to some read some people are quick
to say that he just can't be a

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league guard. Okay, fucking fine. The Calves need him to be a

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league guard. They never have really, but they certainly don't need him to

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be one. Now, Darius Farland's
there. They brought Ricky Rubio back,

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and you also have the on ball
skills of Evan Mobley to plumb as well.

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You can look at Sexton's defense and
say, okay, fine, like

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it could be better. He's made
places away from the ball, and I

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think he could still probably be a
pretty good on defender on ball defender,

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even though he is on the smaller
side. I'm looking at his offense and

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Zeklo has phrased it thus Lee he
might be the most undervalued or disrespected twenty

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four points per game score in NBA
history. I don't think that's hyperbole.

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And so when you go back too, and you could throw a lot of

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what happened in twenty one twenty two
out of the equation. But when you

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go back look at his twenty twenty
twenty one season, in which he played

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sixty games, a good amount of
seventy two. Yeah, that's fine.

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He averaged over twenty four points,
averaged just over four assist per game,

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and then shot fifty plus percent on
twos and thirty seven plus percent on threes.

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Here is the list of every single
player to meet those benchmarks for an

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entire season before they turned twenty five, Jason Tatum in twenty twenty two and

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twenty one. Also, ironically,
Trey did it this past year. Kevin

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Durant did it in twenty twelve,
twenty thirteen, Kyrie Irving did it in

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twenty sixteen, seventeen. That is
it. That is the entire fucking list,

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and Sexon and Tatum were the two
youngest players in league history to do

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it. I know the era is
different when you look at the pace or

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when you look at the three ball. The names I've just rattled off,

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though they've all been since two thy
twelve, two thousand and thirteen, We're

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not like defying eras here. I'm
not saying he's on the level as any

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of those players. Every single one
of the players I just listen is a

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better passer than Colin Sexton. Ironically, Joe Johnson did it in his age

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twenty five season, so he just
missed the cut. He's not a better

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passer than Colin Sexton. I do
think, and I want to start with

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the passing. I do think like
the passing qualms are overblown. There's tunnel

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vision on drives. I get it. He's not gonna throw these super complicated

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passes. But I think he's gotten
a lot better at the kickouts on drives,

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and yeah, they're the frequency of
those isn't necessarily up, but the

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quality of those passes when he's finding
three point shooters and you look at some

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of the Cavaliers is most common three
point shooters in twenty twenty one, Kevin

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Durant, Darius Garland, Torian Prince
that season, Like these are all guys

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that shot better than forty percent from
three off passes from Colin Sexton. Dean

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Wade actually led the team in three
point attempts off of Sexton passes that year,

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shot thirty seven point five percent on
them. And yes, some of

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the average I think has been when
you look at that was dragged down just

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by like Jetty has been having a
ship show of a shooting season then,

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and the Nacho Coro still sort of
figuring it out. This is someone who

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causes defenses to react on drives and
passing. It's not the central part of

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his game. I need to re
embasize that it doesn't need to be.

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He can be a secondary creator who
is throwing the more than occasional kickout or

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even just drop off, and I
think, you know he has. We

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haven't seen a ton of it just
yet, but I feel like he can

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have really good two man chemistry with
Jared Allen, and we've even sort of

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seen like the shuffle passes with him
and Rubio on the court together. I

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look at his scoring, though,
that is an actual, like really important

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commodity, and he's not the front
scratch scorer who's gonna fire up these off

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the dribble jumpers and be super efficient. You can look at his pull up

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percentages over the course of his career, they have not been great. In

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his rookie season, he hit thirty
seven point four percent of his off the

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dribble threes, very little volume there
though. He has never had an effective

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field goal percentage on pull up jumpers
higher than forty five. His career highs

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forty four point eight twenty nineteen twenty
came close to matching that in twenty twenty

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twenty one. That's like he's had
moments where he's hitting those in between twos

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on those off the dribble jumpers,
but you're not counting on him to do

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the you know, the James Harden
step back the Jayson Tatum escape dribble three.

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Even what Trey Young is able to
do off the dribble, that's also

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fine. He scores by himself in
other ways, which says nothing of how

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valuable he is as someone who just
fits in to the larger context of your

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offense. And again, I'm willing
to throw a lot of what we saw

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in twenty twenty twenty two out of
the equation new teammates around him, and

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it was an eleven game sample size, So I don't know how much to

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read into that, or excuse me, I do know, and it's just

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I'm not going to read much into
it. But when he gets going downhill,

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he has like a bunch of just
different moves he can use to counter

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what the defenses are giving him.
He's gotten really good at like going right

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and then going back to his left. He is getting really good at passing

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guys by off of screens and finishing
around the basket. We have seen his

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rim frequency go up over the past
three years. He's been in the eighty

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third percent tile or better in each
of the past three seasons, including this

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last one. The caveat there when
it comes to the volume of his field

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goal attempts that are coming at the
Rim, and then in each of the

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past two years there was that major
jump he shot sixty plus percent at the

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Rim. In twenty twenty one he
had another jump. He was shooting thirty

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eight fifty three at the Rim this
year, which is seventy two percent before

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he was injured. They're real finishing
there. Some of them are tough finishes,

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but I think he has more speed
than people give him credit for in

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general, And mind you, a
lot of this was coming with sub optimal

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spacing for the Calves just in general. Like, yeah, there were certain

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lineups where it really worked, but
I also like that he did and this

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speaks to I think why he can
be so valuable. There's more plugin playness

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to his offense, and there's the
shooting, which I mean, I'll get

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to in a midt, but I
saw a little bit more in the minutes

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that he logged with Ricky Rubio,
where the Calves are having him set screens

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away from the ball for him to
come up and then have a ball screen

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set for him, and he's able
to go into these quicker actions and attack

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and Colin Sexton going downhill matters.
His drives have been supremely high volume since

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his rookie season. Really, you
look at his efficiency on them, they

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were not super high to start off. But this is what he's shooting on

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drives the past three seasons, including
last year, forty seven point six percent,

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forty seven point three percent, and
fifty percent. That's like, yeah,

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his past percentage has peaked around the
thirty four to thirty five percent area.

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That's actually not bad passing on one
third of year drives. His assist

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percentage was always on the lower end. I think that probably speaks more.

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Yes, there's tunnel vision, but
we also need to look at the quality

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of talent around him. Last year
he turned the ball over a bunch of

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those situations. Again in eleven game
sample size. Colin Sesson going downhill is

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absolutely a threat, and he even
has like sort of this little floatoresque game

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too, And that's more where he
can get it off, you know,

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whether he's coming from the side angle
or he's going dead on at the basket.

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He can get it off over taller
guys to fight his size, and

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so that's been a big part of
his scoring development too. And there's just

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a shiftingness to him once he gets
in the lane, I think the past,

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even last year when he struggled,
but looking back at twenty twenty one,

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he's done a much better job of
just not picking up his dribble or

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bailing out too early. And that's
open to other decisions a lot of times

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for him as a score but also
as a passer. If that's your second

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or third best playmaker on the team, what is the problem. There is

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value there, and then I'm just
gonna go like this shooting is it's monstrous

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is the word to use for it. Here's what he's shooting on catch and

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shoot threes for his career forty four
point three percent as a rookie, forty

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two point one percent as a sophomore, forty point three percent in twenty twenty

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twenty one. Then he was down
to twenty three point three percent last season

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again eleven games. I am very
much of the mind that you have that

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number is going to come up,
Like, twenty three point three percent can't

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be the norm when you're basically at
forty two percent or a little bit higher

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on catch and shoot threes for your
career before that last season again in lea

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up the eleven games, when you
look at his catch and shoot touch in

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general. The only time he in
effective field goal percentage below sixty on those

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looks. That is so valuable when
you're one on a team that still isn't

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chock full of great shooters or floor
spacers in general. And then two,

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you want people who can play off
of Caris Lavit now, Darius Garland,

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Ricky Rubio. That's why it makes
so much sense to have Sexton come off

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the bench next to Rubyo is they
can play in tandem. Since Sexton's offensive

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game is more malleable, he might
not have that same captaincy or oversight of

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the offense as a Darius Garland,
as a Ricky Rubio. You might even

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prefer Carris Lavert as a passer.
That's fine, but he does so many

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other things well on the offensive end, even independent of him being just this

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if he unspectacular pull up shooter,
and again when you pick the floaters into

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that and some of his short mid
rangers, like, there's something to plumb

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there. He's just not the traditional
escape dribble, complicated handle three point shooter.

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That's fine. We don't need all
of these guys to be that.

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So, you know, are you
concerned about his decision making out of the

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pick and roll, Like, that's
fine if you need to slow down your

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offense and he's the one that's always
going to be running it. He turned

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the ball over on twenty three point
four percent of his pick and rolls last

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season. That was a career worst
mark against sample size is just so small.

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Do you need to care? He's
never been super efficient scoring out of

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the pick and roll. Career high
effect the field goal percentage out of pick

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and rolls was three seven point six
came last year in twenty twenty one.

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That's like, like, yes,
he's an average to below average pick and

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role player, that's not the end
of the world when he is again not

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the one a for your offense.
And this is someone who in the past

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two years, like he's done a
great job upping his shooting foul percentage.

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It's above twelve in each of the
last two years twelve percent. And just

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to contextualize that per creating the glass
relative to his position, he's ranked in

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the eighty six percent tile or better
of shooting foul frequency. Last year,

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we saw his free throw shooting really
drop off. I think it was in

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the low seventies. That was a
little bit weird. There's value there too,

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So this isn't someone who was just
still bailing out too early, not

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passing at all and not getting other
opportunities at the foul line relative to the

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role that he's playing. He's actually
getting there quite frequently, and he's upped

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his rim frequency progressively, sort of
hovered like, yeah, there might have

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been a medium, but the finishing
the past two years, including last season,

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was a lot better. So why
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And the injury it matters. But
if you're the Calves or constant's worth

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more to you. That's just my
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You could say whatever you want at
the market. Right now, I

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really feel like they're overplaying hand and
it could come back to bite them in

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the ass. If they don't budge
they don't want to pay the luxury tax

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this season, we'll get it.
Like that's just stupid in itself. Dan

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Gilbert is the second richest owner in
the NBA. He's also the second richest

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owner per Forbes in net worth just
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at over thirty billion dollars. So
I'm not gonna cry for him and a

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prospective luxury tax bill, especially when
oh, you know they did use the

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mini mL E I guess to bring
back Ricky Rubio. They were within close

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enough to the apron where you probably
could have thought about using the entire mL

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E. And you want to Rubio
back to get it. Could you've gotten

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a better player? Digressing here very
hard. You can make other moves to

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get out of the tax and con
Sexton, to me, is worth that

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you're not, Like, yes,
Alan Love is even sort of entrenched salary

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so high. I think Jetty Osman
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floor spacing. If you're that concerned
about the tax, can you find someone

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to take him and save let's say
five million of a seven point four million

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dollars salary and then make up the
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like even you know, forty over
three years, we're talking about an average

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annual value of like thirteen and change, so like bringing that up past fifteen,

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I think he's worth that, even
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is something they know more about his
vitals then we do. Sure, I

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guess you can play your hand this
way. But Colin Sexton probably had twenty

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million. I can say with like
a fair amount of certainty, probably had

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twenty million dollars or close to it
per year on the table for him and

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extend talks him. Turning it down
proves to be a mistake. Like if

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you're the Calves, this is someone
who even if it's like Dylan Windler,

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can you find someone to take on
his four million dollars salary? Like this

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is someone who's actually worth taking room
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And you don't also know what's going
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roll dice here and either would have
sect In Sciences qualifying offer or you signed

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a short term deal where he gets
three agency and twenty three or twenty four

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and then you risk losing him there. You might be compelled to extend Lavert

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on a deal that you're not so
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We saw it with them later in
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like they need Colin Secton. He
is not the traditional self creator. If

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you're looking for guys who are going
to get into the lane, guys are

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going to hit those off the rible
jumpers in the lane or from beyond the

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arc, but he puts pressure,
consistent, real pressure on defenses. He's

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actually a quality finisher. And if
he's an average passer, fine, he's

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he doesn't need to be your player
there. And so I really am I

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guess I'm not floored. It's it's
it's the Calves with Dan Gilbert, and

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they do have quite a bit through
their credit, like wrapped up in Allen

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and look, I think Gilbert has
paid players in the past, but we've

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also seen like extensions really drag out
when you go back, HARKing back to

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Tristan Thompson with Lebron and so this
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I just feel like they're misplaying the
hand. I would pay, like even

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upping your offer to sixteen, I
would pay comfortably. Yes, if you

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get in the twenty million dollars range
now coming off the injury, I get

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it. And now you've paid Garland, you've paid Allan, You're gonna have

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to pay Mobile. You view them
as your top three players. I get

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that too. Somewhere between sixteen and
nineteen for Colin Sexton's seems eminently reasonable.

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And if that gets him to sign
even a three year deal with no outs.

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It's totally worth it, and it
doesn't break your bank when you're looking

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at the salary cap that's rising.
And so I think the Calvs should figure

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out a way to offer him more
and duck the acts. If that's what

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they need to do, they should
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I am I would also finally wrap
up with this. I would just

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advocate for a team trying to get
in here and getting him pace. Your

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compensation will be tough for anyone who's
not the Pacers or the Spurs. I

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wouldn't hate it if the Pacers went
after context, and I know that they

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have Chris Duarte and of course Tyr's
Haliburton. You can play exit in Aliburton

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together, and if you want to
have Duarte at the three have Benedick Mathin

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as well. Just I would try
it, like, especially if it's gonna

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cost lower than twenty or in the
twenties, Like that's gonna be a movable

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contract if you need to do it. And this is someone who is just

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I won't say he's a universal fit
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everybody drink. It's scalable. What
he does you put that within any offense

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almost and he's going to be able
to make an impact if you're expecting him

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to be your primary floor generals,
that's on you in the construct of your

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team. Efficient actually efficient scores twenty
one season. Even if you view it

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as an anomaly that list, I
would argue does not happen by accident when

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you're dealing with the volume at which
Sexton was playing and shooting. And look,

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newsflash, he is shooting, including
last year. He's now shot over

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fifty percent on twos in each of
the past three seasons, and he is

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a career thirty seven point percent three
point shooter. Last year's average is dragging

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him down at twenty four point four
percent. He has never averaged fewer than

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sixteen points a game. Sometimes you
need someone who can get buckets and be

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your tertiary creator. That is Colin
Sexton. And this is not, you

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know, an aging Jamal Crawford or
Lou Williams situation. He is bringing more

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value than those guys. You don't
even need to equate him to a Jordan

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Clarkson who's had sort of a career
renaissance. Maybe he's a little bit friskier

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off the dribble gives you less rim
pressure, nowhere near as good of a

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passer. So I don't understand why
the Calves are messing around. If I'm

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the Pacers, I would look at
it. If I'm the Mavericks, is

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there a trade package I can offer
that's gonna get Cleveland to bite a base.

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Your compensation makes it tough, as
does their unwillingness apparently to go into

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the tax I'm like, I wouldn't
even hate Sexton in Toronto. Their salary

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matching is tough there. Now,
you look at a team like the other

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one that's braying to mind for me
would be Orlando, Like that's someone they

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could use with sugs and back Carrow
there like, I don't know that Faults

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or Hampton, like that's just it's
just iffy. You're you don't need Sexton

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to be your primary playmaker, but
he's also probably a better playmaker than than

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Hampton at this point, and you
have faults, Like I said, it's

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a very good pastor now even when
Wilcarter Junior thanks Carroll's passing is gonna be

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absurd. That's a team. Can
you get involved with the sign and trade?

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I believe Gary Harris can be immediately
traded. And if I'm wrong,

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you build stuff around Pence Ross.
If not build stuff around the two of

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them, someone go out there and
pay Colin Sexton, because I'm not saying

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this is someone who needs to get
a MAX. Just some team pay him

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what he's actually worth, which is
a lot more to me than borderline mid level exception
