1 00:00:26,559 --> 00:00:32,119 Hello everybody, Welcome to twenty twenty four and welcome back to That's Not Metal, 2 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,799 the award winning podcast. You thought we weren't going to take that opportunity 3 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,880 immediately, You're wrong, guiding you through the essentials in rocking heavy metal, 4 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,759 and we're back at it again for yet another year. You can't stop us, 5 00:00:44,759 --> 00:00:48,000 don't even try. We hope you had a jolly old festive period. 6 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:52,119 But the grind begins again now and kicking off that's no matter this year. 7 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,799 I am paren Hayish as always. That hasn't changed. Sam Dignon is here 8 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,679 for this first edition of five of Blasts, and we've got Mark Anderson with 9 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:00,960 us for this one as well. Happy New year, gang, Happy. 10 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,799 I mean we've we've we've spoken in the time since then. We got to, 11 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:07,400 you know, talk about our big favorite lizard. We did Godzilla, 12 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:10,319 yes, but you know, proper musical that's no matter begins here. Hello 13 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,319 everybody, Yes, yeah, no, this is this is like I say, 14 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,799 the beginning of and like, yeah, thank you for voting for us 15 00:01:15,799 --> 00:01:18,599 on that Pop babeward all the listeners that that was. That was a nice 16 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,560 like like like yeah, I mean, well I'll get to that in a 17 00:01:21,599 --> 00:01:23,719 minute. But I guess, how about this, What was the best show 18 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,719 that you went to over the Christmas period after we'd stopped doing kind of weekly 19 00:01:26,719 --> 00:01:32,439 coverage that kind of thing. Did think I went to any Blood Commander that 20 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:34,920 in that category. I think I briefly gave them a shout. We didn't. 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,480 I think it's probably review the Bloo Command show and that that I went 22 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,799 to, but I kind of I might mention, but yeah, you know, 23 00:01:41,159 --> 00:01:44,680 it was Blood Command being brilliant that the the world Domination tracks they can 24 00:01:44,719 --> 00:01:48,280 now sprink into the set list is just these kind of like either like wild 25 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:53,120 Ferrell blasts of like Chaos or that when they can start line dancing during some 26 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:56,280 of them and all things like that, or doing the Welcome to the Next 27 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:59,519 Level and then just like free shapes on the stage. Excellent stuff. I 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:04,200 love Blood Yeah. For me, it was the Paradise Lost Icon thirtieth anniversary 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,560 show in Bradford with my dying bride. I'd never been to Bradford before we 30 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,680 got told to go sample the curry scene there. We went to an Indian 31 00:02:09,879 --> 00:02:15,599 that does the largest narans in Yorkshire or something like that. It was fucking 32 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,120 mental. It was like the size of the table. The gig was good 33 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,879 as well. Madame Bride were beautiful, but that Naran will stay for me 34 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,000 for life. How you doing, Mark, I'm all right, I can 35 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:30,599 review doing justin Bieber karaoke with my brother. That's just in the comfort of 36 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:35,159 your own home. Yeah. So we are almost two weeks into January now, 37 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,599 Tea, and I'm starting a bit late to the New Yeal. It 38 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,800 was just because of where the Fridays fell. But we got the most you 39 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:42,960 know, important bits of news from the last few weeks since we've been off 40 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:46,039 air to kind of pour over, and the first of which to address, 41 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:49,639 as Sam was alluding to it pertains to just us for once. But yeah, 42 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,719 we won a pod Bible award. We had you know news a few 43 00:02:52,759 --> 00:02:57,360 weeks ago that we've been very out of the blue nominated for Best Music Podcast 44 00:02:57,439 --> 00:03:00,439 twenty twenty three by pod Bible, which is a magazine that specializes in podcasts, 45 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:06,039 and last week we actually won the thing, which which is a hilarious 46 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,560 outcome. We were giggling when we were nominated that we've spent the last couple 47 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:14,039 of shows reviewing like really cult obscure metal releases and then weally, just like 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,159 the Halloween Roulette was sort of really soon before we got announced for it. 49 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:21,319 It was like that and the Malacarbatan review and stuff. But then you know, 50 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,840 and then we've been plopped into a category against like actual famous people. 51 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,479 You know, it's not an award for best Metal or best Alternative Podcast or 52 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,080 anything like that. The net was wide and now we can say not only 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:38,879 pod Bible Award winning, but Gary Kemp defeating podcast. Right. That's that's 54 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,520 on our resume now. And you know, in all seriousness, when I 55 00:03:42,639 --> 00:03:46,000 saw the award was listener voted, I actually thought we might be in with 56 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,879 a shot, because getting our foot in the door of these kind of things 57 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,680 is the kind of weird bit for us, because you know, we're not 58 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:54,800 part of a larger media outlet. We're not part of it with anyone. 59 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:59,680 The actual nomination was kind of the really mental thing to happen because I guess 60 00:03:59,719 --> 00:04:02,280 that required, you know, I guess someone at pod Bible who knows who 61 00:04:02,319 --> 00:04:04,840 we are and likes what we do to put us forward. So whoever that 62 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,840 was, you know, maximum hails to you. But once we were in 63 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,000 there eligible for votes, I thought we might actually be in with a chance 64 00:04:13,039 --> 00:04:15,960 here because I bet the tn M listeners will show up if we're up for 65 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,560 something like this, and lo and behold you did. So thank you to 66 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:23,160 everybody who cast your vote for us. This year is going to mark the 67 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,920 ninth year of this show running. We obviously look very different to how That's 68 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,040 No Metal did back then, But considering we are that far into being just 69 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,639 an independent heavy music podcast, come on or here to talk about new music 70 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,800 to you, with no stake in any battle. You know, the winds 71 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,160 of favor change all the time and all that. Something like this is a 72 00:04:40,199 --> 00:04:43,759 massive reward and a reminder that you know, you guys still care and are 73 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,279 still there for what we're doing and are enjoying the work we do. And 74 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,040 that's a wonderful boon to start twenty twenty four with when we're looking ahead to 75 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:54,079 all the stuff we have in store for you. So cheers very much. 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:00,439 News that isn't just us cloating again several weeks worth. We're not going everything. 77 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,600 But I couldn't believe that we hadn't that this one. This feels like 78 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,240 it's so long ago, this first story. Yeah, I mean it did 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,959 land in the gap for us didn't it like this has a few you know, 80 00:05:09,519 --> 00:05:12,959 Bringing the Horizon are currently a very relevant band into you know, this 81 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,079 isn't just a few week old piece of news. This is currently they are 82 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,680 anywhere you look in the UK. Their tour is unfolding. So Bringing the 83 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,600 Horizon art you know, in a lot of different places right now, and 84 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:26,920 they have a few different news stories attached to them. The big one from 85 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,480 a few weeks ago, and I guess probably the most like wow, piece 86 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:32,879 of news from the time we haven't doing new shows. As you were saying, 87 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:38,759 Sam, is the fact that Jordan Fish has split from the band Bringing 88 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 the Horizon are. I guess they must have someone on tour with them right 89 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,360 now, but from what I gather, he wasn't on tour with them for 90 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,920 at least the last tour if it was in Japan before he announced his departure, 91 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,839 they had someone else doing his stuff at that point. I didn't realize 92 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,639 that until after happening someone point out from things, but I was like, 93 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,680 so they've clearly had this iteration really to go, but yeah, this was 94 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:05,199 this was out of the blue, like, oh yeah, as someone who 95 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,920 I'm a big bring Me fan, uh and have was when I was a 96 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,360 teenager, and I remember sort of when jo Nah left and then this new 97 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,639 guy came in, Jordan, we were all like, I was the leaning 98 00:06:19,959 --> 00:06:24,120 in on the synth stuff, is that really gonna work? And then it 99 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,839 obviously it worked tremendously to the point where Jordan is now like he was seen 100 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:35,120 as like the second figurehead of bringing me, well, just this news, 101 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,480 shoot me. Basically I was like, what the fuck are they gonna do? 102 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:45,639 I think it's certainly true that if you were I mean bringing the Horizon 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:53,040 again very in the conversation as the biggest metal band of their generation, and 104 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:57,439 you know, the last ten years in which they have essentially achieved that. 105 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:02,439 I think a lot people would point to Jordan Fish as the kind of most 106 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,759 influential person in that band as to where their sound went. I think he 107 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,120 absolutely is. I think again, before he came in, they dabbled with 108 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,360 the electronics, but him coming in and what he did and how he did 109 00:07:16,399 --> 00:07:19,319 it, and then when you sort of started to become more and more like 110 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:26,600 ideas and essentially shape what the next ten years of shitty knockoff want to be 111 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,439 metalcre bands are going to try and copy like he is such a pivotal point 112 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:33,800 in where bringing the horizon when and it was to me it was like, 113 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,800 you're getting the guy who has shaped your sound even more definitively arguably than Nolly 114 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,519 has over the last decade. That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I 115 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,959 guess the argument is there that you know, he did his role of you 116 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,720 know, he kind of helped send them in that direction, and now they 117 00:07:50,759 --> 00:07:55,240 are so far down that path that it's not like him not being there is 118 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,800 going to suddenly, you know, revert them to something else or whatever. 119 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,199 Like I'm sure that they will continue on roughly in the sort of realm that 120 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,040 they've been and where you know, jorder Fish helped propel them. But I 121 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:09,199 guess it was, like, you know, it's one of the more surprising 122 00:08:09,399 --> 00:08:15,120 band you know, departures that we've had that isn't from Slipknot in the last 123 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,720 you know, several years even, but bringing us up to much more current 124 00:08:18,759 --> 00:08:22,680 affairs. They have this week again as their tour has kicked off in the 125 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,720 UK, they've released a new single called kool Aid And currently I don't know 126 00:08:26,759 --> 00:08:30,759 if this is again because the way our podcast kind of goes out on the 127 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:33,840 day before we've actually heard the news or anything, but there was talk in 128 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:37,039 the middle of the week that it was on chant to be their first UK 129 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:41,399 Top ten single, which is I don't know, if it's just because January 130 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 has less going on, I don't know, but like that would be some 131 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,879 pretty surprising news going there and kool aid. You know, we haven't stopped 132 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:50,840 to talk to speak about every single bring Me a single, I guess because 133 00:08:52,879 --> 00:08:58,039 we have been such a long old wait for that next post human record that 134 00:08:58,159 --> 00:09:01,960 we've heard so many songs from it. But this one, I I think 135 00:09:01,759 --> 00:09:05,799 this is my This is the most I have liked to Bring the Horizon single 136 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:15,679 in several years, because I have I've really not liked most of the last 137 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,200 three to four years of their their single output. And I'm not saying this 138 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:24,080 is obviously, like you know, of the highest caliber of their all time 139 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,559 singles, but when put against the ones that we have been getting in you 140 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,120 know, the twenty twenties, the certainly the pool that are going into this 141 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,600 upcoming EP album whatever you want to call it, this is the one where 142 00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:45,600 I've gone I can actually see myself playing that and not pulling faces as I 143 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,360 so. The first time I listened to it. I forgot it almost immediately, 144 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,679 and then after a coup more listens like, I mean that chorus is 145 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:58,240 a bit bit limp, but the chorus, it's only bringing chorus the last 146 00:09:58,279 --> 00:10:01,159 couple of years that I've like gone, Yeah, that works. It's better 147 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,639 than like the Chorse to Die for You or the the shitty hyper pop one 148 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:07,200 like that was doing all over the place sort of stuff. I don't know 149 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,240 if I preached the Glassdoor song, but I like glass or so like, 150 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,159 but I do agree this is of the recent crop of and singles. It's 151 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,320 on the better end. It's got a mean riff, Like I quite like 152 00:10:20,399 --> 00:10:22,919 the hand clap into like the opening I'm always going to go go for that 153 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,039 breakdown goes pretty hard. I just think it just it. It felt a 154 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:31,960 little bit bubble gum at first of kind of like nothing sticking with me. 155 00:10:31,159 --> 00:10:35,840 But yeah, it's decent and I think like worth coming because this thing is 156 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,159 the first bringing the Rison song that doesn't have a Jordan Fish writing credit, 157 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,840 Is it really Yeah, Like my friend like did some digging. He said, 158 00:10:43,879 --> 00:10:45,919 yeah, this's the first one of the reacent ones that doesn't actually have 159 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:48,759 him as having a ryning credit on it, so I was like that probably 160 00:10:48,879 --> 00:10:52,720 again makes it worth a bit more discussion as to what it could symbolize. 161 00:10:52,000 --> 00:11:00,519 I'm coming out this differently like I feel like this current batch of me sign 162 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,639 singles which has been going on for about two three years. Die for You 163 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,639 was twenty twenty one. That was the first thing we heard from this twenty 164 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,320 twenty one according to Spotify years. Yes, I was right at the end 165 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,159 of the year, wasn't it must have been like right? Yeah? Yeah, 166 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,919 all those thingles I like, I find them very middle of the road, 167 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,559 So I tend to like I like Lost the super Tiktoky one, and 168 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:24,080 I really like Die for You. Oh yeah, the main he went in 169 00:11:24,159 --> 00:11:28,919 that direction. Yeah, because I think if you're gonna do this sort of 170 00:11:28,279 --> 00:11:33,799 produced within an inch of its life sort of heavy but barely fucking heavy thing, 171 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,879 you might as well go crazy and hyper poppy with it. This is 172 00:11:39,039 --> 00:11:46,159 so boring. Oh it exits my brain within a second, and the last 173 00:11:46,279 --> 00:11:50,440 thirty seconds of it is completely fucking useless. Yeah. I don't know what's 174 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,840 going on there, but I think for me, like again, the most 175 00:11:54,039 --> 00:11:58,080 exit my brain ones are Again I was before recording now, I was just 176 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,840 going over and refreshing myself on some of them. As there's that the like 177 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,679 I'd lost, I'd pretty much forgotten a Strangers, pretty much forgotten about dark 178 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Side, pretty much forgotten about this one. I like, Yeah, the 179 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:15,559 one that I like because that's the Glass Draw one. This one is again 180 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,200 there's a legit riff that in a like again that the the the Glass Draw 181 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,039 of the Daryl Palumbo featuring one is the other one of this like six singles 182 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,000 that I think is like okay, but this to me again, this this 183 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:30,440 one has a riff in a way that isn't just like a tokenistic screamy heavy 184 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:33,240 way like it's just the actual song is based on a bounce, which I 185 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,440 like. And I also I think Olie these days with the direction that sounds 186 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,279 gone, he kind of is always just gonna sound obnoxious with how they produce 187 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,879 his voice. But the chorus to me on this one, it has a 188 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,600 kind of scale to it that is a little more paternal ish. It's like 189 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,279 the most all like this kind of modern hyper pop start, like you know, 190 00:12:52,519 --> 00:12:56,960 leaning era of Bring Me. It's the most sort of like send paternal 191 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,080 grandeur ish. I have heard one of the choruses go and I think that 192 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,720 is the ingredient that has made me go like this one of these. You 193 00:13:03,799 --> 00:13:07,440 know, for me, it's like a seven out of ten song when their 194 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,000 output for the last three years has veared from kind of fives and six to 195 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,840 you know, two's in like differ use case. I think as well, 196 00:13:16,039 --> 00:13:18,320 this one actually at least sounds like Bringing with the Horizon, what like, 197 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,200 yeah, that big bring again. Whereas because again I like aiming, but 198 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,919 it's the thing I've knocked him for a bunch of recently, is that, 199 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,960 like, what do bring Withers actually sound like a lot of time it's oh 200 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:33,159 whoever's guesting on their song? Yeah, And I think that that is the 201 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,840 feature for me that again, the chorus on this, it reminds me of 202 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,080 like, you know, when I was quite a big fan of Bringing the 203 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,080 Horizons, you know, at their best kind of circle that's the spirit and 204 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,440 Ammo and those kind of things, and this sort of tapped into a bit 205 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,440 of that. So yeah, I think it'll probably end up being one of 206 00:13:46,519 --> 00:13:52,399 my favored songs on this upcoming release whenever that arrives. And you know, 207 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,879 fair play for the current chants stats battle whatever is going on there. The 208 00:13:58,039 --> 00:14:01,559 other really kind of I'm not to say shocking, maybe not shocking, but 209 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:07,120 I guess sort of somewhat has an era of finality to it. News that 210 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,080 we got in sort of, you know, end of last year beginning of 211 00:14:11,159 --> 00:14:16,399 this one, is that the brad Wilk went to Instagram to basically declare the 212 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,080 Rage against the Machine reunion that has been going for a couple of years has 213 00:14:20,159 --> 00:14:24,159 run its course. They are not planning on playing any more shows. Obviously 214 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,240 there was never any question of music really, but you know, they had 215 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:30,759 play shows in the US. They would go into play shows in the UK, 216 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,639 such as you know, Reading and Leeds, but they got canceled. 217 00:14:33,159 --> 00:14:37,279 I believe that was due to Zack Della Rocker's injury, wasn't it. But 218 00:14:37,919 --> 00:14:41,320 if you were waiting for those to be rescheduled or anything, it's not happening. 219 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,399 They're done this again. For me, like I never saw Rage in 220 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,000 any incarnation. Obviously, I wasn't around to see them in their heyday. 221 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,399 I didn't see them, you know, when they came back the first time. 222 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,960 Obviously they didn't come here at this time. So I think for me, 223 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:54,639 Ragi are always going to be one of those bands that like you know, 224 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,440 there were kind of a thing in history that I just wasn't around to 225 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,799 see in the same way as a you know, real panterra or type of 226 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:07,960 negative or whatever. So in a way it almost doesn't affect me because it's 227 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,360 kind of like Radient Machine now stay remaining exactly where they were, which is 228 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:18,120 in the rearview mirror. But I guess what do you make of the the 229 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,440 recent Ragient Machine reunion having kind of run its course and reached a point of 230 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,440 finality? I mean, I guess, I don't know. Is it because 231 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,679 of Zack's injury not healing up as as it should have, and you can't 232 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,519 like maybe just don't want to go out and tour again? Yeah, like 233 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,360 you like saying you don't like I don't know the reasons. I mean again, 234 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,840 I'm guided I'll never get to see Rage, probably, But at the 235 00:15:41,879 --> 00:15:46,360 same time, they can just be that that band who were like when of 236 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:48,759 those great bands I'll never get to see. There's a whole bunch of them, 237 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,320 like sometimes as improven. Sometimes not seeing a band is better than seeing 238 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:58,000 a sort of latter of union. I'm not saying Rage we're going to be 239 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:00,480 like that at all. I know we've you know, given Tom Morello's kicking 240 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:04,919 and this rage, you might have been the one thing that kind of like 241 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,799 brought him back up in the estimations. But I like fair enough, you 242 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,679 know, they they don't have to do it, like and if they don't 243 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 feel like it is going to be real or genuine, whatever their reasons are, 244 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:22,679 that's that's on them. Yeah. It's funny because coming from the you 245 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:26,799 know, the UK perspective, they never came here, So in my mind 246 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:33,360 it just sort of didn't happen anyway. How many shows they did prior on 247 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:37,559 this run, But I don't know, it makes no difference to me. 248 00:16:37,679 --> 00:16:41,000 Really, I wouldn't have been going to the shows anyway. Yeah, that's 249 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:44,480 sort of how I view it in a way that there were a couple people 250 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,759 being like, oh, you know for the kind of oh it's a shame 251 00:16:45,799 --> 00:16:49,879 for their legacy. They didn't get to kind of put a big climactic standpoint 252 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,080 or anything, and they just sort of linked the finish line here is I 253 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,000 really in history? Is the twenty twenty three raging its machine? Where you 254 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,960 going to be the deciding factor for that band's you know, like most people 255 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,480 will forget that, ever, happened, and they were because they didn't release 256 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:07,640 the music, right, so you know radios, betwenes legacy and plays in 257 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,640 the history books. I think it's entirely unaffected by whether they came to the 258 00:17:11,799 --> 00:17:17,440 UK here or not, or this particular you know reunion run. So yeah, 259 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,240 all agreed. It's basically they are They are history now and maybe that's 260 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:26,160 a maybe that's for the best. Sleep Token had the most streamed metal album 261 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,119 of twenty twenty three when the numbers were all added up. Obviously, that 262 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,319 means they outstreamed Metallica A then sevenfold, these other big bands who released, 263 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:36,559 you know, highly popular records. I would have predicted that. I think 264 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:38,440 that would have been my guess. And I think it also makes you know, 265 00:17:38,519 --> 00:17:42,279 when we were talking about like, isn't it mental that the Grammy's looked 266 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:45,960 over sleep Token and stuff this time around, that makes it particularly wild that, 267 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:48,559 you know, on this cycle of all and they weren't kind of in 268 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,000 that conversation. But yeah, not a surprise there really if they're played a 269 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,319 sleep Token for those numbers. Now, speaking of bands actually come into the 270 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,640 UK, Corn this week have announced a hand full of shows, one of 271 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:07,799 which is their all time biggest UK show. They are playing Gunnersbury Park in 272 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,759 London with a bill that features Denzel Curry, spirit Box, Worgasm and Loathe. 273 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,920 They are also playing shows in Scarborough and Halifax, Yorkshire, pulling in 274 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:22,440 the big guns. For some reason, not all of that support bill is 275 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:25,000 on those shows. Unfortunately, if you're in the North, you're not getting 276 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,920 Denzel or spirit Box I think, but you know, those other ones are 277 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:33,480 milling around there. They have Corned been back since COVID. I just might 278 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,519 have This might be the big you know, post COVID return to the UK 279 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,000 for Corn, which is I guess that's what it must be five years or 280 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:44,759 so since they here. Yeah, I mean Gunnersy is kind of becoming the 281 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,839 hot spot for the new metal party of the summer. Bit one was these 282 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,359 three sites where they did the Limbiscuit and Pendulum to that little run last year 283 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,680 and so they've clearly gone well that went down. Well, let's you know, 284 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:03,119 get another sizeable new metal band and put together a cool kind of like 285 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:08,039 build that that fits them and like yeah, like Corn like something like what 286 00:19:08,279 --> 00:19:12,720 like no, would it be the very fit of common When did the debut 287 00:19:12,799 --> 00:19:18,759 come out? Not you fare like no, for yeah, no, soar 288 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:22,559 anniversary of the debut, I was like, yeah, no, it isn't 289 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:25,799 so like it feels all kind of like just a bunch of things lining up 290 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,960 for the for Corn to be able to pull off us or big celebratory show 291 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,839 like that. Yeah, I'm well tough for them. There's a bird time 292 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:38,759 they played something that big. Yeah, I'm looking at this. I'm looking 293 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:42,039 at the dates like I would love to go. It's around the corner of 294 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:45,359 for me, I feel like I have to go, Like yeah, Like 295 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,559 it's like the unfortunate thing is it's Bloodstock weekend. So if you are, 296 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,319 you know, going to that metal festival, which is a festival that some 297 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,599 people have gone, hey maybe Corn tore headline. You know, they're actively 298 00:19:55,839 --> 00:19:59,480 diverting away from it this time, so you're not gonna be there. But 299 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:02,599 if it wasn't that weekend and I was in London with the full Denzel Curry 300 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,720 spirit box lineup, I would go to that. Maybe traveling to Yorkshire to 301 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,680 see Wargasm Open is like not quite as appealing, but certainly the big London 302 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:17,240 all day version of this show Corneder and a proper outdoor gig in the UK 303 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,039 Denzel Curry and you know that kind of full day thing. To me, 304 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,200 it has the similar vibes or something like that Queens of the Stone Ange and 305 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,799 Friends show that I went to several years ago, but you know, a 306 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,119 kind of new metal version and that you know, looks pretty grand. Indeed, 307 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,319 the poster is really cool as well. Fair play on the art design 308 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:38,119 on that one. Paramore almost not worth keeping up with. Kind of Paramore 309 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,240 stands speculation because that's a whole thing onto itself, and Paramore have been ruffling 310 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,400 all kinds of feathers recently amongst their hardcore fan base by doing things like deleting 311 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,559 their social media channels and all this kind of business. There's been weird rumors 312 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,480 that they were going to like Taylor Swift their way through their back catalog or 313 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,480 something for some record things. But amidst all of this in at a time 314 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,759 when some people are like, oh no, a Paramore gonna break up, 315 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,240 the first thing that they actually announces that they have contributed a Talking Heads cover 316 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,960 to the a twenty four Stop Making Sense movie kind of campaign that they've been 317 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,519 going on with, which is not out yet. But I think it's just 318 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,559 very funny that amidst all that kind of speculation around Paramore, the first thing 319 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:18,519 they imaged to is like, oh yeah, by the way talking Heads cover 320 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,440 Yeah, like you know, putting out a festival day exactly. It got 321 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:25,799 so bad that someone like a source close to the band had to confirm they 322 00:21:25,839 --> 00:21:29,160 are not breaking up, Like it got so bad, but yeah, I 323 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,680 got I saw the troubler was like, yo, that's really sick. It 324 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:33,720 makes perfect sense that you know, of course they've done it. The back 325 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,319 of this is why and like you want, like a popular band who you 326 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,880 can slap on an a twenty four branded talking Heads cover album, Paramour are 327 00:21:42,039 --> 00:21:45,880 like the go to as you're kind of like number one pick, like hell 328 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,279 yeah, I'm I'm excited for this. Yeah. So I haven't heard that 329 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,640 just yet, looking forward to that. What we have heard is Issues who 330 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:00,640 in one of our last hyperblasts of last year, we spoke about their decision 331 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,640 to disband and they're going to be going on a farewell tour this year, 332 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,200 and we spoke a little bit, I guess about the kind of the rise 333 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:11,319 and fall of Issues as a popular, relevant band and maybe you know, 334 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,480 some of the missed opportunities that were there or whatever, But they have put 335 00:22:15,519 --> 00:22:19,039 out a farewell single essentially, I presume this will be the last one ahead 336 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:26,079 of their tour. It is cooled since I lost you and you guys as 337 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,160 the the issues fans who you know, we're talking about the sort of the 338 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,079 rise and fall of their their their music and you know, maybe rise again 339 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:37,759 at certain points whatever. I don't know, but if this is to be 340 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:40,319 the last issue song going ahead of that farewell tour, what do you make 341 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:45,200 of it? For this was surprisingly good. I had no expectations from a 342 00:22:45,279 --> 00:22:49,000 farewell issue song at this point. I'm guessing it's Skylight on vocals, and 343 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:52,240 I'm like, why didn't they do more of him on vocal? Has got 344 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,359 a decent voice that like can hold the sort of like soulful pop melodies. 345 00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,599 I found this less like intrusive on the ear, shall we say then, 346 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240 like the Tyler Carter ear and stuff. I think the guy's kind of sort 347 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,319 of smooth and more soul inflective voice, like you were saying, like it 348 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,799 didn't do a huge amount for me, but like I listened to it, 349 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,319 I was like, this is something that you could least sort of you know, 350 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:15,480 sort of get into a laid back groove with in a again for a 351 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,640 non Issues fan, a pleasant enough way. The fucking the DJ scratches are 352 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,039 still a bit like funky Pigeon. But you know, as a song, 353 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,200 I thought it was solid. Yeah, it's funny hearing a vocalist with a 354 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:33,000 lower register. Yeah on it come in and that threw me off a wee 355 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:38,519 bit. But on repeat listens it is. It is really smooth and they 356 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:44,319 sort of play through his voice more where the instrumentation is a little bit more 357 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,960 jazzy, a little more more you know, loungey. Perhaps it's still like 358 00:23:48,079 --> 00:23:57,720 the tech bouncy tech shit, but the chorus is really big, and yeah, 359 00:23:57,799 --> 00:24:03,839 I kind of wish that this is what Issues were and continued to do. 360 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:07,240 Yeah, maybe there's like a it feels like a bit of a look 361 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:11,319 into a kind of alternative pathway that they know could have gone down and done 362 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:17,039 something with right. Dominating social media feeds for a lot of people in the 363 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,480 last week or so over the last weekend is something that we are going to 364 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,039 be We'll keep this somewhat short because we're gonna be talking some more about this 365 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:30,240 on something fairly soon. But f YA Fest in Florida, which is a 366 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,400 hardcore festival, one of the many large regional hardcore festivals I guess in the 367 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:41,039 US being played in seemingly just like a gymnasium with the just anything. Yeah, 368 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:47,440 but Dying Feet has played it, which is I guess unusual. The 369 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,480 people are like, oh, this is what's this death metal band doing at 370 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:56,079 this hardcore festival? But their fucking set has just been being circulated and circulated 371 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,319 for the absolute fist swinging carn is unfolding when you put that band who wrote 372 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,400 those beatdowns in front of like a US hardcore crowd who are ready to, 373 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:10,920 you know, throw some elbows, and I don't know, Dying Fetus Fever 374 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:15,480 has been sweeping sweeping the world. I mean you look at the setlets stay 375 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359 play, and that's a band who have gone, we're playing a hardcore festival. 376 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,400 Let's just get our most fuggish, beat down heavy songs unless covering during 377 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,000 the Integrity cover for the first time, Like that is how you tailor that? 378 00:25:27,279 --> 00:25:30,640 Like that is a perfectly tailored setlers for the set, for the for 379 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,839 the second they're in. And the thing that the video that doesn't for me 380 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,000 is there's the video of them at the end of in the trenches and when 381 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:44,720 they hit the beat down and start cheering audibly, everyone is like, oh 382 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,720 fuck, yeah shit, this is real. I'm like, ah, this 383 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,480 is just really cool to see. More like I welcome it. I would 384 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,480 love to more like legendary definital bands kind of just get their chance to play 385 00:25:55,519 --> 00:26:00,279 a hardcore festival and have people go like fist swinging carnage to it. I'm 386 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,440 surprised it didn't happen sooner, because surely though the perfect death metal band for 387 00:26:03,599 --> 00:26:11,200 it, And yeah, that's that footage is fucked so sick. I wish 388 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,279 I was there soul, but yeah, me too. And it has inspired 389 00:26:15,319 --> 00:26:22,440 some very very funny Twitter conversations and back and forth as well. That again, 390 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,640 we'll maybe touch with a little bit more when we do something else right, 391 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,480 going back over sort of the festive period, I guess if we start 392 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:33,359 this at Christmas Day, you know day a side of course, I was 393 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,200 looking for my phone on Christmas Day and I thought, oh, there it 394 00:26:36,279 --> 00:26:40,279 is. Of course it is released their first song in several years, called 395 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,519 Bury Your Bury the Cross with Your Christ on Christmas Day. It's good. 396 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,400 I think the last few day Aside records have been very, very good. 397 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,319 Indeed actually, and if this is a kind of hint that there is going 398 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,200 to be a new one dropping this year, I would I would absolutely take 399 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:02,680 that elsewhere we had. Jeff Loomis announced his departure from Arch Enemy, where 400 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,400 he has spent the last I think about a decade he was in that band, 401 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:07,359 and I know that this is one of the things that I think people 402 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,640 I presume I'm the only one here who can particularly speak to any sort of, 403 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:17,359 you know, opinion on this either way, I guess. But Jeff 404 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Loomis was the guitarist in Nevermore and he was fucking incredible and they were incredible. 405 00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,119 And when that band split up, the surprise news that he was going 406 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,400 to be joining Arch Enemy as their second guitarist came and a lot of people 407 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,480 were like, oh my god, he's like one of the most like visionary 408 00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:33,039 guitarists in metal of his generation. What could he possibly add to that? 409 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,799 And then now a decade later, people like, oh, you just wasted 410 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:41,000 a decade in Arch Enemy. I think people have put too much kind of 411 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:42,480 thought on that. What did you really think he was going to do? 412 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,200 Like it was always Michael Lambert's band, Did you really think that he was 413 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,240 going to turn up there and completely revigorate the sound of it. And you 414 00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,799 know, I think it was more of a like he had a nice time 415 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,640 for ten years. He turned up, he got to play some sweet guitar, 416 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,160 he toured the world for a bit in a band that wasn't his one. 417 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,640 Now he's going to go and do something else. Great. I don't 418 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,920 think there's much like the Jeff Loomis stint in Arch Enemy. I think has 419 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,079 had more headlines devoted to it than I think it really needs to be. 420 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,359 A man joined the band and had a nice time for ten years. That's 421 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,640 the extent of the conversation really. And now when we go to twenty twenty 422 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,960 four news again, we're gonna fly through this fairly quickly. But for the 423 00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:22,559 first few days of this year, I thought it was going to be like, 424 00:28:22,039 --> 00:28:25,400 wow, Like twenty twenty four is going to shape up to be an 425 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,079 all time crazy news year, because three days in we'd had like a story 426 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,400 a day that was just fucking batshit. It was like the Twelve Days of 427 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,880 Christmas because the first day we had news from Green Day that they had gone 428 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,440 on some New Year's Eve kind of show in America. They performed their song 429 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:48,279 American Idiots, and when they changed the line to I'm not part of your 430 00:28:48,359 --> 00:28:55,119 maga agenda, loads of people got upset, seemingly realizing for the first time 431 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:03,359 in twenty years what Maerican Idiot is about, Like, you know, media 432 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,119 literacy is dead, and I'm like, yeah, yeah there. Green Day 433 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:14,039 bring politics into their performance of American Idiot just like and again like I was 434 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,240 like, oh no, can we not stop in Like Green Day are like 435 00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:18,680 the radical political band now because it's fucking Green Day. They're the most kind 436 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,359 of like like but now liberal kind of proposition out this point, but not 437 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,119 a radical move to do this. No, it was like first day of 438 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,640 the year and Green Day had a one hundred hit record of being cool for 439 00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:37,279 them, maybe we can carry that energy forward into next week when their album 440 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,720 comes out. But that was hilarious. The second day, it was just 441 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:45,799 a headline that just maybe we I'm not I've not even really looked at the 442 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,160 story in question, but the headline was Dave Ellison, when you bear it 443 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:53,319 all even nothing to hide? I missed this and when I looked at the 444 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,519 notes and saw that, I was like, I howed. I was like, 445 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,319 oh my how was he still talking about it. He's been out of 446 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,400 that band for like at least two or three years now, and he's still 447 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:11,279 having to be like, well, I'm proud I master be incredible stuff. 448 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:17,680 And then the third day the thing got really fucking dark and wild. One 449 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,920 of a former mister Bungle member who had performed the saxophone on I guess most 450 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,119 of their classic records in the kind of late eighties early nineties, has been 451 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,079 arrested and charged for the murder of his girlfriend. So fucking horrendous stuff going 452 00:30:29,119 --> 00:30:32,200 on there. But yeah, really like twenty twenty four news came out of 453 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,319 the gate hard. And then as we close this up, just looking forward 454 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,160 to a couple of the album announcements that we've had for the coming months that 455 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,440 I think are worth looking at. Dudz Rete have returned announcing their new album, 456 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,000 which is going to be out on Mark to twenty second. This band's 457 00:30:45,079 --> 00:30:48,880 previous album was one of my very very favorites of the year it came out. 458 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,799 You may remember they have released a single here, which is just the 459 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,799 kind of melodic black metal, you know, crust punk kind of mix that 460 00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:03,279 I love from them. It has a guest solo on it from m from 461 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,480 Lamp of Murmur and when that starts it is just like proper heroic guitar hero 462 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:11,079 stuff. It's great. And then we also have gouage Away have announced their 463 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,319 third album, Sam you must be a gouge Away enjoyer, right, I 464 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:21,279 love Gouageway, And then them kind of coming back are like after several years 465 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:26,240 of just very quiet behavior is something I am extremely excited about. I'm pretty 466 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,119 sure the're on the Outbreak lineup, which is one one. I'm just like, 467 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,799 hell fucking yeah, Goageway are back for good and I'm going to be 468 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:33,400 seeing them in the summer. I might be making up on the outbreak lineup. 469 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,039 But yeah, a new album. Two songs which both are like really 470 00:31:38,079 --> 00:31:41,720 different, one of the more kind of like screechy sort of punkin and one 471 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:45,799 kind of on the more like ambient, slower stuff. But yeah, this 472 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,960 is exciting times for me. Yeah, and those are a couple of records 473 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,880 that are coming in March. So questions for the first time in twenty twenty 474 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,400 four. Thank you very much to the members of That's Focused group who contributed 475 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,279 to these questions. That is the place you want to go if you want 476 00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:01,519 to get in on questions every week, and we are going to start with 477 00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,759 what Mark Paul is here as essentially as a stand in for the most frequently 478 00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:09,200 asked question we got, as you can imagine, was basically like, what 479 00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:12,640 are you looking forward to in twenty twenty four? What bands are going to 480 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,359 be releasing albums in twenty twenty four? Mark Paul asks, as I'm a 481 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,920 bit out of the loop, what albums are do you potentially do this year? 482 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:21,839 Are you most looking forward to? So, as I guess we don't 483 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,279 do the preview shows anymore, we might as well spend the first type of 484 00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:29,000 last of the year talking about some of the albums that we are most excited 485 00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:34,599 for in twenty twenty four. I have got an alphabetical list of a bunch 486 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,359 of bands that I am just particularly excited about releasing albums. But I can 487 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,799 throw to you guys, first of all, what are the albums who are 488 00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:44,000 from bands who you are fairly certain are releasing albums this year? Not just 489 00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:45,759 kind of wild speculating, but like they have. Yeah, I've not gone 490 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:52,559 You're excitful, full offbetical, But I mean, surely knock Loose must have 491 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,599 something in the pipeline with those singles and the tour. Like again, I 492 00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:59,079 can't remember who's actually announced stuff to go, Like I'm like, they're that 493 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,480 Gollageway album that I've got in my eyes. It's better Lovers, I'd guess 494 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:08,839 would be on the sort of the punch. But again I've kind of like 495 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:10,880 not a chance to sort of sit down and look at and be like, 496 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,200 Okay, who's got stuff coming? What's announced? This is? This is 497 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,640 Blizard me a little bit this one outside of I said gouge Away there, 498 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,920 I'm sure there are plenty of that I've forgot about. Law Jane Gray's album 499 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,160 is due out. You know, I'm excited for that, even though it 500 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:29,720 should be an against me album, but it's never happening. Just give up, 501 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:36,119 Sam. Yeah, it's interesting, like of the sort of fixed releases 502 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,400 we know the release dates for these things, there isn't much. Like there's 503 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,640 a Judas Priest album obviously, I'm looking forward to that. I've quite liked 504 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,000 the singles from the some forty one album Last One, so you know it's 505 00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:52,480 a double album, Like do we need a double album for the Last One 506 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:58,960 album? A little bit, there'll probably be one full album normal album's worth 507 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,240 of bangers on it, so I'll take that. Recently, just the last 508 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,199 couple of days, I've been checking out the Amaranth singles and even though Amaranth 509 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,639 thunder Band I particularly listen to full albums from often those are some bangers, 510 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,960 so they can deliver a couple more bangers on the record. I'm looking forward 511 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:24,519 to that. Three bands like Mark list of Amar is one of the There's 512 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:29,719 other bands who have released singles that don't have albums a thatch yet, so 513 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:35,400 I hope Royal Republic see Space Cowboy. There's a Japanese shoe gays band I 514 00:34:35,519 --> 00:34:38,159 really like called April Blue. They released a song recently that's really good. 515 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:45,360 For Your Strong released a single just that sort of went under the radar at 516 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,519 the end of last year. It's pretty good. But hopefully there's an album 517 00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:53,880 covering because I just I just love for Your Strong so much, and you 518 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,800 know, just hope one of my favorite bands release stuff. Jimmy World, 519 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719 Devil Solders all who have Jimmy well will be nice considering they've been just sort 520 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:07,119 of dancing. Yeah. So my my alphabetical list of things that I was 521 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,960 just particularly excited about. Alcest I think I've recorded one. Black Curse, 522 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,719 the Black Dahli and Murder have said that they are going to Yeah, I 523 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,239 don't know if I'll be coming this year, but they have an album in 524 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,760 the pipeline and obviously that'll be really you know, important thing to kind of 525 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,639 look at. Bleeding Through confirmed that they have an album. Yes, especially 526 00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:30,639 with last year, Blood Incantation have an album coming. One of the first 527 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,599 big ones that I'm really excited for what we're getting is in February, the 528 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,039 Chelsea Wolf album is coming out. That Dodd three album I just mentioned. 529 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,440 I'm excited for that one. I believe Duel we're probably going to be doing 530 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,000 something this year. High on Fire I think have been working on a new 531 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:46,800 album. I've heard this one and it's good, but you know, the 532 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,119 album in February. I'm excited to be out there. Inter Armor is one 533 00:35:52,159 --> 00:35:57,039 of the big big ones for me. Judas Priest as well. He's been 534 00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:58,920 talking about it a lot in the last couple of weeks. So I don't 535 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,639 know if it's coming this year. But Kerry King album that he's kind of 536 00:36:00,679 --> 00:36:05,239 basically you know, his new band that seems to just be like Slayer. 537 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,360 But what if it was only Kerry King, but I like Slayer enough to 538 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,679 be like, yeah, it's been a while, give me some Kerry King. 539 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,920 Let press are working, have got a new album in the works, 540 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,159 Nails new album coming over the summer, apparently Oceans of Slumber. I've been 541 00:36:19,199 --> 00:36:22,679 working on another one, a Rancy Pazuzu. I'm really excited for Rotten Christ. 542 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,119 I'm excited for another fairly early one in February. Getting Spectral Voice unto 543 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,119 others, is obviously a huge, huge one. I'm really excited for the 544 00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:38,599 debut Vicious Blade album and some again I'm not sure are definites, but like 545 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:44,519 Ulva released a single just randomly like last week of twenty twenty three, maybe, 546 00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:46,280 and if they've got another one coming out. I still fucking listened to 547 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,559 Flowers of Evil all the time, so give me more of that. I 548 00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:53,199 would love there for there to be a Converge album this year, like whether 549 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:58,280 that be Blood Moon two or you know, the follow up to the Dusk 550 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,360 in Us, whatever form that would take. It's been you know, enough 551 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:05,199 years now from both of those things for sure, something to be arriving, 552 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,320 so I would love for that to happen. Similarly, been saying every year 553 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,440 for several years now since he released a fucking single. But King Diamond Slash 554 00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:15,679 Mercil Fake have albums that they are just sitting or not doing anything with. 555 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:21,519 Apparently second year in a row where Tom Jy Warriors said yeah, the Tripic 556 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,679 one album's come in. So if that came this year, that would obviously 557 00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:30,079 be the one I'm the most excited for. And again, like you were 558 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,360 saying, Sam, I hope that off the back of those singles as a 559 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:37,239 knock loose album, that would be nice in that kind of hardcorey world. 560 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,280 The ones that I'm looking at where I go, Yeah, that would be 561 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,920 cool is a flesh Water, which is the kind of vein spinoff band. 562 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,920 But they seem to be gearing up to do some more big things this year. 563 00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:49,280 I just saw a status earlier today that Hi Viz are working on the 564 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,559 follow up album to the really good one from There's a lot of the outbreak 565 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:54,159 bands I'm looking at being like, okay to share Maria coming back? Can 566 00:37:54,199 --> 00:37:57,159 they have a you know, it's been been a good while, it's their 567 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,599 last album, be nice to have from them. Yeah, And then again 568 00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:02,199 you might notice from that list I put together there's a lot of underground bands 569 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,320 there. I was struggling to think of big bands that really are definitely releasing 570 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,000 records this year. Every big band that I really care about has I either 571 00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:14,239 released an album like within the last couple of years or just seemed to be 572 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,480 off grid or something like. The only one I could come up with is 573 00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:22,159 obviously MCR released a single. Will they ever release more? But that's again 574 00:38:22,199 --> 00:38:25,400 for a lot of it's on the underground stuff. So if big bands come 575 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,039 through with big records, that would be something of a surprise. So that 576 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:35,800 would be nice indeed, right. Gary Blackwood asks best examples of bands whose 577 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,079 debut album didn't live up to the hype of their early releases or EPs. 578 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,719 My example is Hot Milk. The EPs were great, but for me, 579 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,320 the album like everything that made those great. Also do a Pearl Jam, 580 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800 specially your big Cows. Congratulations on the award. Do you really want me 581 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:53,719 to fucking talk through Pearl Jam catalogue? Maybe if someone really cared, But 582 00:38:53,880 --> 00:39:00,199 like, I don't know if that's a one that's like screaming out of us 583 00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:02,840 as one that you need to hear us as a group of people, particularly 584 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,840 talking even when I'm not that you know, I only probably would like Pearl 585 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,480 Jam because they're you know, as we said on the they're like the Springsteen 586 00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:15,119 of the grunge bands. Even I find Pearl Jam a bit boring. Yeah, 587 00:39:15,159 --> 00:39:17,719 anyway, I actually this is the question I struggled with. I could 588 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,039 think of bands who you know, had really big debuts and they never quite 589 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:23,599 topped. There are a couple of like you know, there are again, 590 00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:28,079 there are underground extreme metal bands who released like a legendary demo and then never 591 00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:31,320 fucking released anything else. But like bands who released really great EPs or let's 592 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:37,280 say demos, early releases and then the album wasn't as good. Made one 593 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,840 that jumped immediately to mind, which was Activist. That's the only one that 594 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,159 I could think of as well, Like they spun spraight straight to mind and 595 00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:50,679 that like on that like EP, the buzz and excitement around that band was 596 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,119 like, this could be the next big crossover thing. You know, They're 597 00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:58,000 they're supporting Corn at Brixton, They're opening the main stage at Reading Festival. 598 00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,880 There was all of the science pointings there and then combination of it took too 599 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,239 long to get out, and then it also wasn't as good as the EP 600 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,679 meant, all of the buzz around that band disappeared so quickly. Another words 601 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,360 was like, because this wasn't exactly like their debut EP or debut album. 602 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,159 It was they've had stuff before it, but that that was kind of just 603 00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:20,320 massively overlooked over here in it. But like Crosswack had a kind of sort 604 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,400 of thing like this where Zion was more or less their debut over here, 605 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:29,039 Like no one over here really paid any attention to the first EP or album 606 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,199 and that got so much buzz. And then I still really like what the 607 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,360 Abams have done since then, but that that didn't exactly you know, take 608 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,679 off after this like explosive EP that got them noticed here. Yeah, Actavists, 609 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,639 That's that's it. I was soul in on that EP, and even 610 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:51,360 though I listened back to it quite often with sort of rosy eyes, tears 611 00:40:51,440 --> 00:41:00,320 in my eyes, Like even though the even though the record Actavis put two 612 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,360 years ago, I really like, I think that's wicked, but just the 613 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,920 momentum wasn't there for the many Moore. Yeah, I both activist debut albums. 614 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,840 I don't I don't fully subscribe to the idea. The EP was amazing 615 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,119 and then the album was like really disappointing or anything. I think it was 616 00:41:14,159 --> 00:41:17,199 more just two longs. Yeah, like the moment was really there with them 617 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,280 on the EP. And then the albums, which again have been good, 618 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,440 but they haven't quite captured the magic, I guess. And again the album 619 00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,840 the first one I like, but the best song on it was Elevate, 620 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,719 which was a song that was kind of brought over from the EPs. And 621 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,679 I guess, you know, if I'm if I'm ever in a mood to 622 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,039 kind of go and relive the activist days, I probably will just put the 623 00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:38,679 EP on rather than anything else. But that's that's the one example that very 624 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,320 obviously sprang to mind really Uh. The other one that just spunk to mind 625 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,880 just now is a band we talked about earlier. Issues. Oh, I 626 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:52,000 mean I like the album, people love didn't it, But people didn't love 627 00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:54,039 it as much as the EP. A lot of people will point to the 628 00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:58,679 EPs to kind of like this was the best thing Issues ever did, and 629 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,360 I'm like, I kind of get it, Like I still really like a 630 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,280 lot of that first album, but there were there were people who were switching 631 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:12,280 off on the album even after just the EP, like Callum Reid asks bands 632 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,239 who you think have a later classic era that matches or even exceeds their earlier 633 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,760 classic period. I think I've heard Creator being mentioned on the pod as an 634 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,679 example, but any of that come to mind, I think Creator is one 635 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,320 that I wouldn't say exceeds because ultimately, like you know, if I'm picking 636 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,760 a Creator record for the whole Hall of Fame, it's always going to be 637 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,599 pleasure to kill, and that early year is amazing, but certainly they have 638 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:37,239 a second classic era that you know it's lasted longer for sure, and they 639 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:44,320 have they are a band who are hitting at that higher level still. Again, 640 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,039 the go to examples for me, I've got two that are always true 641 00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,400 and if actually come up with you more around them as well. But the 642 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,000 two that mediates me to mind me always are if you include Monotheist from Celtic 643 00:42:54,079 --> 00:43:00,440 Frost and then continuing that over into Triptocon that as an era I think out 644 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:05,719 class the eighties classic Ketty Frost era. And the parallel example is Napalm Death, 645 00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,719 who I would say for me, I would have kind of from two 646 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:14,320 thousand and five to obviously they haven't followed up the latest record yet, but 647 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,079 I mean just let's say, in terms about put twenty five to twenty twenties. 648 00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:21,000 You know code has read smear campaign time, wait for no slave, 649 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,599 utilitarian, apex, predat easy me and throws the joy of the jewels of 650 00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,480 defeatism. That is the best and apalm death material, I think, And 651 00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,239 so those are the best two. I think. My other ones, again, 652 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,480 I would say, are similar is Rotten Christ's Rotten modern Day from kind 653 00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,320 of Theogonia in two thousand and seven through to today. I think a lot 654 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:44,079 of people would say that that is their kind of best era if they're not 655 00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,320 like really nineties purists about it. And then again similarly to what we were 656 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,199 saying earlier, but one that I've been thinking about dying thetus Reign Supreme two 657 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,199 the present day, I think, particularly on the back of Reign Supreme. 658 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:59,360 But you know, when you've got you wrong one to fuck with and make 659 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,960 them beg for day, maybe collectively killing an adrenaline, the grow tesquing palement, 660 00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,920 ep destroy the opposition, stop at nothing. Maybe you could say that's 661 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,880 collectively a stronger run than the last three. I don't know, but it 662 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,239 is it is close. And are those are the obvious ones. For me, 663 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,519 Napalm Deaf were the one that sprung to mind to me as the obvious, 664 00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,880 I don'tice because just not enough of my favorite bands have like long enough 665 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,559 runs to really break up into distinctive eras. Because I was like, who 666 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,800 do I like that it's gonna? I was like, who are still like 667 00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:30,760 really good to who've been going for like twenty plus years? And I was 668 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:36,440 like, converge, But again like did they have they ever not actually just 669 00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:40,960 been fucking brilliant like and then yeah, there wasn't anyone else like Cannibal Corpse, 670 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,519 But again, when does like the Whinegan when you break up in series, 671 00:44:44,519 --> 00:44:46,719 when yeah, they've just been like crushing it for ages, that's a 672 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,440 creator is one whereas they're still brilliant. But ultimately I would say like the 673 00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:54,039 classic eras and that thing is like is I don't I forgot anything that I 674 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:57,800 would see it is better better than the classic hera because again, like I 675 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,559 think blood Moon is actually that's but you know Jane Doe and like that, 676 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,599 So yeah, I converge. I would argue it maybe in the like there 677 00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:10,519 are bands where the classic era hasn't stopped, where that's if you start converging 678 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:15,480 classic era in two thousand and one with Jane No. You could argue that 679 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,960 that era is still ongoing to this day, and there are other bands in 680 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,880 that category. I really Underground one, but CI is one of those where 681 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,920 you go, like, what the fuck is the classic SI era? They're 682 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:29,840 just always brilliant. The sugar is like, maybe they're not in it right 683 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,119 now, but certainly it's long enough when you go like, okay, let's 684 00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:36,480 start it to destroy a race improve where does that classic era end? Like 685 00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:39,960 Colos, that's you know, yes, well, I mean, I'm just 686 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,119 saying in terms of a length of time, that's like there's not a contained 687 00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,159 era there. And you could argue that Colos is a later career record, 688 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,719 but what I'm saying is it's still in the same protracted span of brilliant stuff 689 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:57,239 began in the nineties. I think my sort of wild card choice is, 690 00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:02,119 as we've kind of done a special on if you say that Clutch kind of 691 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:08,360 earth rocker on is kind of a phase of that band, I would say 692 00:46:08,559 --> 00:46:13,800 collectively that maybe is my favorite run of records from them over the you know, 693 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,960 pure Fury Blast, Tirant whatever era. Yeah, I think that's a 694 00:46:17,159 --> 00:46:22,199 really good shout, especially with Slat of Beach on. Yeah. Again, 695 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,840 that's a real because if you had you know, Book of Bad Decisions is 696 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:30,320 a good record, but really it's off the back of Earth Rocker and Psychic 697 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,840 Warfare. But now Somemis on Slat of Beach is another fucking absolute banger where 698 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,719 you go ground it out to the sort of twenty tens clutch here are probably 699 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,039 being yeah, my favorite kind of collector period of clutch. I think that's 700 00:46:39,039 --> 00:46:42,599 a really good shout. Yeah, So there you go. There's a handful 701 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,880 of answers, and then will A Roth ends us off here with a nice 702 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,159 and broad one. What album slash band do you wish you could hear for 703 00:46:49,199 --> 00:46:53,719 the first time again? Let live Let's take history like that. It's the 704 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,920 one every time I'm like, I wish I could hear this for the first 705 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,360 time again and just have my mind blown by it. Like anybody asked my 706 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,159 question, that's about my my number one pick. I have a bunch of 707 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,760 like American Idiot. When I heard American Idiot by Green Day as a kid, 708 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:19,039 Yeah, changed my life basically similar to that Shelter by alcest And there 709 00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:22,599 was a hell and send Paternal by Bommu the Horizon. Those are albums that 710 00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:29,559 I really associate with just being overwhelmed with what am I listening to? This 711 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,239 is all I need to hear. Now. This is a bit of a 712 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:37,440 tangent, but when I was in secondary school, my first year of secondary 713 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,480 school, everyone was into rock because it was a big popular thing. You 714 00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:45,840 know. Eventually Haven't Folded Built from My Valentine were really popular, and then 715 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:51,079 over the course of like a holiday break, no one liked rock apart from 716 00:47:51,159 --> 00:47:54,880 me anymore, and everyone loved Pendulum, And I remember at the time really 717 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,719 rebelling me against that and hating Pendulum and hearing their songs all the time. 718 00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:07,960 I really love pendulumlum So I would love to hear those songs for the first 719 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,960 time, fully equipped to hear them and love them and have my balls blown 720 00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:16,880 off. Yeah, that's a I think American idiot. And I would expand 721 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,639 that to someone like The Black Parade as well, record that if I could 722 00:48:21,679 --> 00:48:23,679 hear them with my head now rather than just being sort of omnipresent, that 723 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:29,039 would be amazing experiences to like just take those in as albums completely fresher the 724 00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:30,519 first time and Similarly, again, I didn't put this down, but it's 725 00:48:30,519 --> 00:48:32,480 made me think of it, and it's one that I have regularly thought. 726 00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,400 This about is the classic run of News Records, because when I was a 727 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,840 kid, they were kind of like I think a few times they were there. 728 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,880 I almost took them for granted how weird they were, because it was 729 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,880 like the first full rock album experiences that I was really going for like that. 730 00:48:45,079 --> 00:48:46,199 But if you presented me now, having never heard it before, with 731 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,159 like here's origin and symmetry, here's absolution, you'd be like, what, 732 00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:52,760 what the fuck is all of this? The answers that I did put down. 733 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,440 This is the first time we've had four questions, and for every single 734 00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:02,400 one I can arguably put Triptoicon down as an answer. But like you know, 735 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,599 they're my favorite band, and obviously if you were to play me a 736 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:07,719 Paristeridimonies or something for the first time now, it would blow my fucking head 737 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,719 off because it's like everything I love. The immediate answer I did think of 738 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,599 is that kind of bands in that strand of like metallic mathy hardcore like Converge 739 00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:21,079 and Dillinger, particularly Converge, Like the first time I heard them, I 740 00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:22,559 maybe wasn't ready for that kind of music yet, but now I love it 741 00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:25,800 so much that like, if you were to go, hey, you know, 742 00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:30,960 Perrien, now here is fucking Acts of Fall, whatever Converge record you 743 00:49:31,039 --> 00:49:34,760 choose to put in front of me, that would be an amazing like rush 744 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,239 of like holy shit, just love at first listen. And you know, 745 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,480 I think there are bands that are sort of classic bands that if if you 746 00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,159 put them in front of me without the years of attachment or whatever, they 747 00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:49,159 would still kind of really blow me away. I think if you put songs 748 00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:51,599 for the Death by Queens of stone Age in front of me for the first 749 00:49:51,639 --> 00:49:53,039 time, I would lose my fucking mind, if you like, I think 750 00:49:53,079 --> 00:49:55,119 typeer negative, if you put in front of me the first time, I 751 00:49:55,159 --> 00:50:00,079 would just like fall head over heels in love again, and and just the 752 00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:05,559 sensation of hearing Travis Ryan sing for the first time in cattle the appetation would 753 00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,960 be an amazing one. You know, that's one I remember as being a 754 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:12,199 really freaky moment, And it'll be fun to have that against such a thought 755 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:19,960 of another because growing up there's lots of basically every Bond Jealvy song I don't 756 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,079 remember hearing for the first time because it was just always part of my life. 757 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,800 They were living on a prayer for the first time again would be pretty 758 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,760 like whoa, oh yeah, show me any of those Bond Jelvy songs now 759 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,159 and I'd be crying. I'd be like, what the fuck is this? 760 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:42,559 I did no music concenters perfect like yeah. So thank you for the first 761 00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:45,360 round of question for twenty twenty four. I am now going to tell you 762 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,079 about the first thing that are going to be going on on the Patreon in 763 00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:51,880 twenty twenty four because, as Sam mentioned earlier, we have we put up 764 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,159 a tinhum Do's Horror for the Godzilla heads out there when we're talking about Minus 765 00:50:55,199 --> 00:51:00,719 one. But with the musical TNM engine beginning to run again, there have 766 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,119 been some years when we've been we've waited until sort of February ISSH or whatever 767 00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,719 to give you our first kind of band special stuff of the year. This 768 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,079 time we are hitting the ground running first band SBECO twenty twenty four. You 769 00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:15,719 are getting in its entirety this weekend because the first thing that we are doing 770 00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:20,000 this year is as a band. We mentioned earlier in the list of upcoming 771 00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:23,400 releases for this year that we are particularly excited about a band called Nails, 772 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,480 and seeing as you know, we haven't been working on new album releases or 773 00:51:28,519 --> 00:51:31,719 anything right now, it seemed like the perfect opportunity to come and do a 774 00:51:32,039 --> 00:51:36,239 one a one part band special, as we've done before on the likes of 775 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:43,920 oath Breaker, on the works thus far of Nails and the wacky story of 776 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,920 that band went on the course of particularly the back end of the twenty tens. 777 00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,599 But basically, we are going to bring you fully up to date on 778 00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:57,519 what Nails have been through and what what became of them ahead of the grand 779 00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:00,960 return that is slated for a further into this year. So myself, Sam 780 00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:07,320 and Elliott this weekend are going to be diving through the Nails catalog and talking 781 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,400 about the story of the hardest band of the twenty tens. That is their 782 00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:15,079 reputation and their legacy, I guess. So we're going to go all in 783 00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:17,119 on that. We have been listening to the records. It doesn't take long. 784 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:22,079 Wow, what a fucking a set. You can listen to all three 785 00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,679 Nails records and it's shorter than one of the albums on our last special like 786 00:52:27,199 --> 00:52:29,440 that, that's you know, that's all of the way they're packing it in. 787 00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:31,599 So yeah, but it's gonna be a good time. So if you 788 00:52:31,679 --> 00:52:36,639 want to support us, that is at Patron Macomm's slash. That's no metal. 789 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,280 It is what has kept this porcust alive all these years. So thank 790 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,360 you very much for those who you know, continue to do it. Those 791 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,519 who are still signing up for the first time. You want your nail special, 792 00:52:44,599 --> 00:52:49,760 We know you do. It's coming this weekend and first hyper Blasts of 793 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,800 the year means we have our first round of twenty twenty four releases. We 794 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,079 have a few from last week with the you know, the slim Trickle that 795 00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:00,559 came out on the the you know, the very first Friday of the and 796 00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:06,000 then a few more this week last Fridays. It begins with after everything I 797 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,519 said on the fucking TNM Awards show, which is I think the first time 798 00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:13,199 you'd be mentioned. I couldn't believe it when I checked my fucking you know 799 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,239 release radar and Peyton Parrish was there with his new album Soul you Can Write 800 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:23,119 twenty twenty four off immediately some other stuff. Sprints released a I think it's 801 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:27,800 a debut album called Letter to Self and This is one that got quite a 802 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,320 few tongues wagging in the kind of you know, the industry world and the 803 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:35,480 press talking about this being one of the early standouts of twenty twenty four. 804 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,480 We were talking where we don't really know if it's something that kind of pertains 805 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,840 all that much to I guess are kind of the kind of thing that we 806 00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,679 normally would be that interested in. Because I listened to this and I don't 807 00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:47,199 really have much opinion on it, so I don't know if we're going to 808 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,320 be reviewing it. But the Sprints album seems to be quite popular, So 809 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,519 there you go. My recommendation of the bunch from last week's is it was. 810 00:53:54,639 --> 00:53:58,480 It was hardcores week. Really, there was loads of hardcore records. 811 00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:04,119 Hardcore never sleeps apparently. My favorite one was Gray State with Wheels of Progress. 812 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,000 Yeah, Vegan, you know, old school, fucking early two thousand's 813 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:14,719 metalcore from from Europe the way the sort of shred metalcore like that, that 814 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,000 kind of like the guitar worsh but one not just like beatdowns and pinch harmonics, 815 00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:22,280 like well, yeah, if you like Archangel and if you like Heaven 816 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,199 shell Burn and that kind of stuff, that is a good record. Indeed, 817 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,480 elsewhere we had Haywire. I believe this band just go by Haywire, 818 00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:30,320 but they're streaming is Haywire six one seven if you need to search for them. 819 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,079 I don't know why that is. But they put a record call Condition 820 00:54:34,199 --> 00:54:37,079 for Demolition. It's like nineteen minutes long. It's just a hardcore slap to 821 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,679 the teeth, rejoice all of Heaven's luck. This is more of a kind 822 00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:44,039 of like black and crusty type thing, if you are going for that. 823 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,480 We also have Cancer Christ with God is Violence, which is just all out, 824 00:54:47,559 --> 00:54:52,239 you know, a narcic, crazy fast release. And speaking of again 825 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,199 your more kind of black and crusty type stuff, there's a band who are 826 00:54:55,239 --> 00:55:00,679 called Svetist Stutter. I believe it's how I'm Gonna say that again links and 827 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,679 well, the titles of everything we say are always in the descriptions episode. 828 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,639 But their record Candler was something that was out as well. And then we 829 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,239 move forward to today's releases where it is not all just hardcore. The first, 830 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:15,760 I guess the most prominent one is the band Casey returning with their record 831 00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,519 how to Disappear. This is another one that we were having a conversation about 832 00:55:17,519 --> 00:55:22,159 when we were sort of discussing what should be on our kind of you know, 833 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,000 the the reviews episode whenever we get to that in January or whatever, 834 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:30,199 whether this is one we'll do or not. But Casey fairly well known sort 835 00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:34,199 of emo alternative rock band, I guess, and this is their big sort 836 00:55:34,199 --> 00:55:37,760 of return album. And they're a band that I only vaguely knew during their 837 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,280 kind of initial run, and we were sort of like, you know, 838 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,159 trying to judge a Casey return. How big a deal actually is that in 839 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,679 the grand scheme of things. I think, you know, they're on those 840 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,440 meads you say beloved in the UK in particular, there is there's a real 841 00:55:52,519 --> 00:55:54,599 I didn't even know there were UK band fair enough. Yeah, no, 842 00:55:55,679 --> 00:55:59,719 the w was they came up at the same time as Holding Absence and Love. 843 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:00,960 It was the three of them, Casey, Hung Abs, lob all 844 00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,920 kind of coming up at the same time and Casey suddenly split. So this 845 00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,719 is them coming back. Yeah, I'm curious how this goes, but I've 846 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,760 never been the biggest fan, but like I know, people are excited for 847 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,800 it, so yeah, yeah, there you go. And then we also 848 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,840 have in the UK hardcore front a band Rough Justice, who are releasing their 849 00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,480 album Faith in Vain. This was one of the many sort of UK hardcore 850 00:56:23,519 --> 00:56:27,079 bands. W've got a very good response off the back of last year's Outbreak 851 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,239 festival, and I suppose for the UK hardcore scene this will be one of 852 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,360 the releases that kind of really kicks the year off. Ryu Jin have a 853 00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:36,960 self titled album. This is like a Samurai metal thing. It's a Japanese 854 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,880 band with that kind of you know, sort of Asian instrumentation and stuff like 855 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:45,000 that. Mate Matt Hafey is involved. He's like, I think he's working 856 00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:46,119 on a producer or something in that capacity on I know he guess on the 857 00:56:46,159 --> 00:56:49,679 record as well. But if that's the kind of thing that you're into, 858 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,639 then you can go and find that this. I didn't know was ongoing, 859 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,079 but I saw it and I was like wow. Some people may remember several 860 00:56:57,159 --> 00:57:02,320 years ago when T and M reviewed the record Christ the Exorcist from prog rock 861 00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:08,320 musician Neil Morse as this fucking insane, mostly terrible, sort of you know, 862 00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:13,000 religious rock opera thing that was going on. He's been working on another 863 00:57:13,039 --> 00:57:17,280 one and I didn't know because we actually have The Restoration Joseph Part two is 864 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,639 out today from Neil Morse. I don't know how many parts will be involved, 865 00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:24,960 but I'm excited to find out. And then a bunch of EPs. 866 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,599 Today. We have Alluvial with death Is but a Door that's a kind of 867 00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,360 you know, sort of techy death Corps type things. Sound fairly decent from 868 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:36,679 what I heard earlier Life Sick Love and other lies. This is actually fairly 869 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:39,199 appropriate for what we were just talking about. Because Todd Jones from Nails does 870 00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:43,519 a little guest vocal on this. It is what you would expect from that 871 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:50,559 fast, grindy type hardcore. We have Extinction, a d ruthless intent thrash 872 00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:53,440 metal band, and then one that I'm going to check out for sure, 873 00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:59,039 Esquala Grind, who are a band who have sort of gained a little bit 874 00:57:59,039 --> 00:58:00,880 of steam in the last couple of year or so of like, you know, 875 00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:02,960 really horrible kind of death grinding type stuff. They're on tour with Napalm 876 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,760 Death Here last year and stuff like that, and their EP is called It's 877 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:14,480 called death metal in all caps with every basic it's basically every letter is doubled, 878 00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:17,360 so it's like a death metal but you can find it and type of 879 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,559 how you want, but I'm sure that'll be horrid. So that is the 880 00:58:22,679 --> 00:58:27,000 first Hyperblast of twenty twenty four. That's the first round of records that you 881 00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:30,280 need to be going in and listening to. Thank you very much for listening 882 00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:32,599 to us. We from here on out are of course going to be here 883 00:58:32,679 --> 00:58:37,400 with you every single week going forward. Next week we are going to have 884 00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,599 another Hyperblast. We are also going to have our Nails special coming to the 885 00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:44,880 Patreon this coming weekend. We are going to have more things coming here hot 886 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,280 off the heels of that, and eventually we will get round to our first 887 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:50,239 reviews episode of the year as well. Proper. So cheers very much, 888 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,079 enjoy what twenty twenty four brings us. Hope it's okay.