WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:54.200 The following presentation is in now Marga Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from 2 00:00:54.200 --> 00:00:59.679 around the world. It's time for another edition of the flat Earth Files. 3 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.439 We have Claude on standby who will be joining us in just a moment. 4 00:01:03.599 --> 00:01:07.000 But before we do so, just a reminder make sure you stop by the 5 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:11.719 website. It is the flat earth Files at gmail dot com. So much 6 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.840 to do. There are lots of information. You can leave a message, 7 00:01:14.920 --> 00:01:18.480 you can listen to our twenty four to seven streaming radio. You can drop 8 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:22.439 if you have questions, comments, or information that you want to share, 9 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:25.280 you can leave it in the forum, or you can just say hi in 10 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:27.400 the chat room. 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Yeah, just about 20 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:07.760 the first thing I sent to you is just an audio recording with some questions, 21 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:09.599 and I've listened to a few episodes and had just a few of them 22 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:14.280 answered. But there's still a few going on there. Yeah, And the 23 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:20.919 beautiful thing about this is we keep an open mind and a lot of the 24 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.319 things that are out there, there's a lot of big questions out there. 25 00:02:23.319 --> 00:02:25.240 We're never going to know the answers. A lot of this is based on 26 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:30.400 faith. A lot of the we'll call it biblical cosmology is what I base 27 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:37.800 my beliefs on. I do know that this government lies at nauseum. So 28 00:02:38.080 --> 00:02:44.039 I'm kind of that guy who's has that spouse that you know, once you 29 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:46.879 cross that threshold with so many lies, I'm not going to believe in no 30 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.919 matter what you say. Said that to me is one of the big flags. 31 00:02:49.960 --> 00:02:52.439 But before we get into any of this, let's please take some time 32 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.560 and introduce yourself to the audience. Oh okay, for sure, my name's 33 00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:01.759 Claude. I come from a small family of about sixteen sols Romanian second generation, 34 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:07.319 So yeah, I like to drop that little one liner. Anyway, 35 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:12.000 I grew up in Missouri for first thirteen years of my life, then moved 36 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:15.439 to Nampa, Idaho, then moved up to Spokane, Washington after I got 37 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:20.199 married to my wife at eighteen in California. So we're kind of like the 38 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.159 traveling gypsies. It's really fun. We're just not the kind that steal your 39 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:30.120 kids. But what we do here is I'm a plumber. My wife is 40 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:32.639 a stay at home mom, and I kind of like it that way. 41 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.120 I like having that single income, being that breadwinner, having some sort of 42 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.240 a traditional value, and it's hard work, it's hard to do, but 43 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:44.120 it speaks to the character of the family that I'm a part of right now. 44 00:03:44.159 --> 00:03:47.719 Everyone else is roughly the same, where you have this mindset where the 45 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.719 husband is the breadwinner, the wife is a stay at home mom. We're 46 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.520 all Bible believing Christians, so it's a good it's a good environment to be 47 00:03:55.599 --> 00:04:02.159 around to nurture biblical thought and skepticism towards the government. It's kind of the 48 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:08.199 Thanksgiving table talk is that specifically, and that's how the flat Earth actually came 49 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:12.680 into my radar was because my brother in law brought it up, and I 50 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.399 decided to seek first to understand and then to be understood, and I went 51 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:21.160 down that rabbit hole. That's awesome, and it's so interesting because literally the 52 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:27.959 last gentleman I just interviewed, it's from Missouri and very much a lot of 53 00:04:28.000 --> 00:04:30.480 the traditions as you just mentioned. And it's great to hear that a lot 54 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.439 of people are going back to that traditional family because I do think it's very 55 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:36.600 important for, you know, the children to have the mother there. And 56 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.360 let me ask you this, since it's kind of on my radar right now, 57 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.759 what are your plans for educating your children? Oh? My plans are 58 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:50.040 homeschooling. I was homeschooled, but but I have a six year old and 59 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:54.079 a four year old, so and I'm only twenty six, so I started 60 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.439 very young. Okay, but I have a six year old and a four 61 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.000 year old, and the six year old is already in kindergarten, he's finished 62 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.959 up his first year. My wife is already understanding that because I've been pushing 63 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.399 her since before we even had kids. We should homeschool. We should definitely 64 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.959 homeschool. But then again, it is mostly on her shoulder since I worked 65 00:05:12.000 --> 00:05:15.319 long hours, so it's a hard sell to someone who grew up in the 66 00:05:15.319 --> 00:05:18.959 school system, which is what she did. So the idea is, let's 67 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:21.600 let's get these kids homeschool. I know what the school system is like, 68 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:26.079 I know what homeschooling is like, and I know homeschooling is much better in 69 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:31.560 my opinion, although you know, biases creep in either way. Hopefully, 70 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:38.319 soon enough she'll see enough of these terrible happenings in the school system that she'll 71 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:40.639 just decide to just throw her hands in air and say, let's do this. 72 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:45.920 Let's home school. That's awesome. Yeah, that is. I saw 73 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:50.800 some statistics prior to COVID. I want to say the homeschool rate was somewhere 74 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:56.240 around two percent post COVID, including the twenty twenty two school year into twenty 75 00:05:56.279 --> 00:06:00.319 twenty three. And we're not talking about people who just go to a public 76 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:02.279 school and they're zooming at home because they have some kind of weird exemption. 77 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.759 This is legitimately people who have set up homeschool accounts with their state. Is 78 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:11.839 exceeding eight percent right now. And I do know that one of the barriers 79 00:06:11.879 --> 00:06:18.439 that people encounter is that different states have different regulations with education. Now, 80 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:25.120 for me here in Delaware, the only requirement I have is between June first 81 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.759 in July fifteenth, I have to give them my attendance. That's it. 82 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.160 I just say how many days my daughter attended school. That's it. They 83 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:34.800 don't poke there for a blue state, they don't poke their nose anyway or 84 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:40.360 anywhere in our education. Now, you said you're currently in Washington. Yeah, 85 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:43.079 the rules are a little rougher here. I haven't gone through all of 86 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.680 them, but it's pretty rough. It's not that it's not that at all. 87 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:48.800 You have to petition a state for a reason why you should take care 88 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:55.040 and educate your own child, and the petition has to be accepted by a 89 00:06:55.120 --> 00:06:58.720 committee of people as far as I understand it so far. So it's it's 90 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:03.199 it's uphill battle, but I'm willing to make it. Yeah, And that's 91 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.959 really sad because when you really think, if you believe in our history, 92 00:07:08.319 --> 00:07:12.759 you know one of the reasons was freedom of religion. We wanted to educate 93 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:15.199 our own children. And I think this came up in one of our recent 94 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.279 episodes that molding the minds of our children is one of the most important things 95 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.759 we do as an adult. And you know, as I've gotten older, 96 00:07:24.839 --> 00:07:28.720 realizing handing our children over to the state for ten hours a day may not 97 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:32.120 be the greatest decision in the world. And again I'm not I'm not judging 98 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:35.279 people. I sent some of my children to public schools. I'm not judging. 99 00:07:35.319 --> 00:07:40.560 It's just as I've gotten an older and little wiser and I do have 100 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.959 you know, that time on my hands as well. I think it does 101 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:47.959 outweigh especially the current state of our education system. Oh for sure, there's 102 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.920 what was the phrase, you send your kids to Rome and wonder why they 103 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:56.959 come back Roman. It's the same thing, right, it is what it 104 00:07:57.040 --> 00:08:00.399 is. I've had the best of both worlds in multiple categories, in the 105 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:05.879 homeschooling in public school and the Baptist and Pentecostal upbringing in the Romanian and American 106 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.160 cultures. I've had most of this, and I can pick and choose and 107 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:13.199 see the problems with most of these systems and just find that straight line down 108 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:18.959 in the middle. Where when I was in homeschooling, we had the entire 109 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:22.959 day to do everything we possibly could, as far as gardening as far as 110 00:08:24.439 --> 00:08:28.920 education field trips, and our field trips were three day vacations to California, 111 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.200 so it wasn't just a standard field trip. But we had all that and 112 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:39.080 then we had time to actually learn correct curriculum. It wasn't the common poor 113 00:08:39.120 --> 00:08:43.519 that that came out during what was that That was during Obama's reign. Very 114 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.799 young, so I'm not sure, okay, perfect, so we didn't have 115 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.720 any of that. It was I grew up reading encyclopedias. We didn't have 116 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:54.360 internet, even though it was commonly available. We were rural, so it 117 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:58.960 was it was a more I guess you can say roughnecked education system. It 118 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:03.360 wasn't as easy as using shot GPT nowadays. But but there's something to that. 119 00:09:03.679 --> 00:09:07.559 And I remember back in the eighties. Obviously we didn't haven't earn it 120 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.879 back then, but we were reading off encyclopedias and I was doing my reports 121 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:16.399 off our encyclopedias were from the sixties. I don't think man landon air quotes 122 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:18.399 on the moon yet, but with the encyclopedias, I was doing my book 123 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:22.080 reports, not my book reports, but you know, all my studies on 124 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.039 that's how we we that's we either went to the library, or you had 125 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:30.360 your families, you know, Encyclopedia Britannica from whatever year. You know, 126 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.320 those things were like fifteen hundred bucks, and a lot of families didn't have 127 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:37.799 that kind of money to spend on the updated, new you know encyclopedias. 128 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.919 So and again you have to ask the question. And I've been shocked through 129 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:46.320 all my years of doing you know, the fact hunter when you find out 130 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:52.039 that Robert Maxwell gives Lane Maxwell's father and Leon Black, who is with the 131 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:58.840 CEO of Apollo Management, who gave Epstein like one hundred and fifty million dollars 132 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.919 in air quotes tax guidance for you know, he was given him tax information. 133 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:07.519 These guys own McGraw hill Books, which is one of the largest, 134 00:10:07.559 --> 00:10:11.919 you know, book suppliers to our to our school systems in America. So 135 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.519 what's really going on? And McGraw hill is based out of Texas, if 136 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:18.879 I'm not wrong, that's I think they're based in three cities. I want 137 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:22.840 to say in New York. I don't know if it's Austin or Dallas. 138 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.320 And then I want to say maybe San fran or something like that. Okay, 139 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:30.440 it makes sense to diversify, but Okay, I didn't know that they 140 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:35.320 controlled that it was part of Gislaine Maxwell's dad's operation. That's crazy. Yeah, 141 00:10:35.480 --> 00:10:39.960 it's you see the people who control our history books, and you wonder 142 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.440 how the stories come out. Like you know, I did an episode on 143 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.720 World War Two and you look at the numbers. We lost seventy million was 144 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:50.519 it seventy million? And the Axis lost twenty million, and all the things 145 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.879 and paper clip It's just we're not getting the story straight at all. We're 146 00:10:54.879 --> 00:11:01.279 getting a lot of lies truly sprinkled in right. Well, for yes, 147 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:05.600 yes, I can't agree more with that statement. And this is where this 148 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:09.080 is where I'd like to segue a little bit into these flat Earth questions just 149 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.240 a bit, because there's definitely other topics we can go on, yeah, 150 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.919 for sure, other than that. But before we do that, because I 151 00:11:16.000 --> 00:11:18.519 knew you have questions, but can you expand a little bit more on your 152 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:22.000 flat Earth journey? And I know you mentioned your brother in law, but 153 00:11:22.720 --> 00:11:24.919 I mean, have you gotten to the point yet when you realize that it's 154 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.799 yet it's probably more of a flat or a biblical cosmology or geocentric than a 155 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:33.960 spinning ball hurtling through space. Yeah, for sure. So what was this. 156 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.679 This was back when I can't remember the exact year. I think this 157 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:43.039 is during Trump's first term, when he first got elected. There was NBA 158 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.120 playoffs were going on, and I can't remember who it was. I think 159 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:48.960 it was the Celtics and the Lakers, I think, But Kyrie Irving was 160 00:11:48.000 --> 00:11:52.159 in the news because he was touting that the Earth is flat and everyone was 161 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:58.159 throwing him under the bus and just terrorizing him for his views. And it 162 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:00.519 was one of those things. It didn't hit me out, oh, he's 163 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.200 an idiot, And it didn't hit me as there might be something too this. 164 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:05.919 It was just an off the wall statement to me at that point. 165 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:13.200 But then I had a job at that point doing delivery driving for Amazon, 166 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:15.879 and it was the on track service that they had. Now they have their 167 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.679 own delivery vehicles and they're phasing out on Track. But during that time I 168 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:24.679 had the opportunity to either listen to music and pump myself up during the fifteen 169 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:28.639 hour shifts that I was driving, or listen to podcasts and preachings sermons. 170 00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:35.480 So I downloaded sermon audio and went just ham on every sermon I could listen 171 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.919 to on every topic under the sun that I could listen to on everything biblically. 172 00:12:41.840 --> 00:12:45.200 So one of those topics, there was a preacher by the name of 173 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:52.320 Jason Cooley. He's a man without using the phrase that's overused by media, 174 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.200 but he is a little bit wild and out and a little bit extreme in 175 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.720 some of his messages, but a lot of the things that he says are 176 00:13:00.000 --> 00:13:03.639 biblical. It's his presentation style is a little rough, so I wouldn't recommend 177 00:13:03.720 --> 00:13:07.840 him, but I wouldn't say he's wrong anyway. One of his messages was 178 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.919 on the geocentric Earth and how that is the Biblical view of the Earth and 179 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.440 how heliocentrism was a lie. And then there was another guy. His name 180 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.279 is Nate Marino. He has a YouTube channel. He's very educated, does 181 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:24.559 a lot of studies, and he went into topics that were a lot more 182 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:30.120 I guess Truther movement, like how Santa Claus is fake and how the Eulogue 183 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:33.440 is fake and something we shouldn't be doing as Christians, and the Christmas Tree 184 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.639 is a pagan symbol and always has been. And it's these things that you 185 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.159 never really think too much about. It's just day to day life. You 186 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:41.600 have a Tree, there's Santa Claus. It's just marketing, but you don't 187 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:46.360 realize that there's actually deeper spirits working behind it, right. Well, Well, 188 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:50.000 then I got into another preacher. His name is Mike Haggard. He's 189 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.320 out of Missouri and he's the one that out of Festus. He's got a 190 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:58.320 church named Bethel and one of the better preachers. He's not too harsh in 191 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:03.000 his messages unless he feels the need to be. Preaches against Freemasonry, but 192 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:09.679 he does have a view against flat earth that is a little rude in my 193 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:13.559 opinion. But then again, he's coming at it from a different standpoint. 194 00:14:13.600 --> 00:14:16.360 I try to be nuanced in my reviews of people and how they speak. 195 00:14:18.159 --> 00:14:22.600 But his view is that a lot of the flat earthers that speak about it 196 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.799 on YouTube and just in general, and they come at it from a biblical 197 00:14:26.799 --> 00:14:31.480 standpoint, will say that if you don't believe the flat earth model, then 198 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.799 you can't be saved, because that's part of what the Bible teaches. Even 199 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:39.600 though it doesn't necessarily teach flat earth, based on what I've read, it 200 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:45.840 does preach without a doubt geocentrism, and there's plenty of verses that say that 201 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.639 sure, and the flat Earth. Yes, there's plenty of verses that you 202 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:50.919 can read that. There's one that I told my brother in law about it. 203 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.600 I think it's Hebrews six eleven. I think I'll have to look it 204 00:14:54.679 --> 00:14:58.720 up again, but it talks about No, it wasn't Hebrews. I think 205 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:03.120 it was Ezekiel. Either way, a guy was having a vision. One 206 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.440 of the profits in the Bible is having a vision, and he saw a 207 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:09.919 plumb line from Heaven coming down to Jerusalem. And anyone who's in who's in 208 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.840 the trades, knows what a plumb line is used for. It's to find 209 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.360 the center point of a specific object. It's find an angle from a set 210 00:15:16.399 --> 00:15:20.759 point. You have to have two stationary points to find a center point. 211 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.639 So if you can't if they're just spinning in any regard, whether it's flying 212 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.600 through space or whether it's stationary and spinning, you can't use a plumb line 213 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:33.080 effectively. That's right. So, especially if it's on an axis as well, 214 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:37.480 right, because is to go straight up and down exactly. Yes, 215 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:46.200 So you start to think where exactly does how would I put this question? 216 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:52.320 Where exactly does the geocentric and flat earth meet specifically, and it meets in 217 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.000 the fact that both of them are stationary, and one of them makes more 218 00:15:56.080 --> 00:16:00.200 sense to the observing eye, which is the flat earth and the geocentric glow 219 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:07.879 birth model still can work biblically, but it doesn't really change much. And 220 00:16:07.919 --> 00:16:11.320 I'll say it for this reason. This is where my mindset is at. 221 00:16:11.320 --> 00:16:12.720 And it's not like it can't be changed because I try and look at things 222 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:18.399 nuanced. But if you've been, if we all have been living with the 223 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.320 understanding that the Earth has been, that the Earth is round, and there 224 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.559 is so called science and math to prove it. Even though we can get 225 00:16:26.600 --> 00:16:30.639 into that right after this, what changes once you start seeing the Earth is 226 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:34.440 flat just your perspective and the fact that you've been lied to because everything else 227 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:40.399 still works the way it's been working. We need new explanations for things, 228 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.840 for sure. You need new math, new science to make it make sense 229 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:45.639 on a flat plane, which wouldn't be that hard to do as long as 230 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.840 you have a perspective shift, because that's all you really need to do anything 231 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:56.960 once we anyway, that's the point. Reo centrism is much better, a 232 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:02.799 much better protected argument using scripture than flatter Earth doesn't mean flatter Earth isn't. 233 00:17:03.120 --> 00:17:06.799 It's just there's a few things that you have to assume when you're reading flattered 234 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.759 state versus at least the ones that I've read, and I could have not 235 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.640 read them all. And that's kind of why I'm hoping. That's that's why 236 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.519 I wanted to come on your show in the first place. There's a lot 237 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:17.720 of things that I don't know that I want the audience to tell me. 238 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:21.880 Yeah, for sure, and even all the flat Earthers, whether it's David 239 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:26.119 Weiss or Ekdubay or myself, that not everybody says this is like one set 240 00:17:26.240 --> 00:17:32.079 thing. Um. There's people who are more apt to choose certain maps of 241 00:17:32.200 --> 00:17:36.240 like a glease and over another. Eric Dubay just did a YouTube video where 242 00:17:36.279 --> 00:17:40.319 he didn't seem convinced that there was even a firmament. So I mean that's 243 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.799 that that's a kind of a red flat for a lot of people who come 244 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:48.319 from biblical cosmology, because the firmament is how else when God separated the waters, 245 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:53.160 what's holding the waters apart? Right? And that is the biggest thing 246 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:59.200 to me, And I realized that God's not in some alternate dimension. He's 247 00:17:59.240 --> 00:18:03.759 literally right above us, looking down from the heavens above. Um. So 248 00:18:03.839 --> 00:18:07.200 there's going to be some different arguments within not arguments, um, just different 249 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:11.400 you know, different points of view on biblical cosmology or the flat earth or 250 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.480 you know, there's so many words that you can use to describe what we 251 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:18.640 believe in. But what we all do agree on is, once again, 252 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.960 is what we're presented on. This ball that's spinning, hurtling through space, 253 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:26.880 four and a half billion years old, that was created by an explosion. 254 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:32.599 We know that is just silly. Yeah, that that is. And I'm 255 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.079 sure you went over this already, but the initial idea of the Big Bang 256 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:40.960 was proposed by a Catholic priest I can't remember his name, Jacques something or 257 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:45.200 Jean something, I can't remember for sure, Probably another Jesuit, right, 258 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.440 I wouldn't doubt it's in the Catholic Church and he's had some authority I can't. 259 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:53.799 I can't say for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me, and forgive 260 00:18:53.799 --> 00:18:56.240 me. I was trying to catch up with all the different pastors you were 261 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.720 talking about. The last one you mentioned who said was giving flat earth, 262 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:06.400 there's a hard time. What was his name, Mike Hoggard and how do 263 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:11.119 you spell his last name? Mike U hogg A r D. He runs 264 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.240 a church called Bethel Church. He's on YouTube under Michael Hoggard. M I 265 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.240 H. I think it's a el. Yeah. He's a decent dude. 266 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:21.920 He's got a lot of good things going for him. He does preach. 267 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.720 Uh. He's got what's called pastor Mike online. It's a very good series. 268 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.519 He finds the number thirty three and everything, so it's the number there. 269 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:36.599 He points out, how here's another thing when when certain things happen in 270 00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.640 the news, like what was it? There was the miners that were trapped 271 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:44.000 in Chile when they were trapped underground, thirty three of them. He pointed 272 00:19:44.039 --> 00:19:45.720 that out, and he says, the way that he breaks it down is 273 00:19:45.759 --> 00:19:52.119 that there's spirits that will leave their signature in certain happenings in the Earth, 274 00:19:52.200 --> 00:19:55.960 and that signature is usually signified by the number thirty three. I have no 275 00:19:56.039 --> 00:20:00.640 reason to disagree currently. It makes nothing but sense, especially with it the 276 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:06.200 capsule that brought them out being called the dragon. Is that right? I 277 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:10.039 didn't remember that. I believe it was. I had heard this message back 278 00:20:10.039 --> 00:20:11.720 in twenty eighteen, so it's been a little while and my memory isn't as 279 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:15.200 good as it should be. He but I'm pretty sure it was called the 280 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:18.960 Dragon, the capsule that brought them up unless it was a company something of 281 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.440 that nature, and everyone was told to wear a T shirt that had that 282 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:26.480 logo of the company on it once they came up out of the pit which 283 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:29.920 they were in. So it's kind of just foreshadowing, you know, the 284 00:20:29.960 --> 00:20:32.920 Antichrist coming up out of the pit. So it's kind of one of these, 285 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:34.839 uh, I don't know what to say about all this wow, And 286 00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:37.880 you know what, there were three I'm looking at it in real time here 287 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:42.599 kind of buzzing through. But they were you can't make this up, three 288 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:48.519 separate drilling rig teams. One of them was NASA. Hey there you go. 289 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:53.680 Oh connects every time, and then there's your thirty three and man, 290 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.640 you can't make this stuff up. I had no idea. I had just 291 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.440 kind of come across that story again in the in the Land US a month 292 00:21:00.519 --> 00:21:04.359 or two, but I hadn't gone that far down to the Dragon. Just 293 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:11.519 another mockery of us, for sure, um oh for sure, yeah, 294 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:14.680 yeah great? From what was it like? And then I went let's get 295 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.680 into flat earth. But what was it like to grow up with with? 296 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.759 Did you say sixteen siblings? Yeah? Yeah, well it might be. 297 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.200 I don't keep track of the number we had. My sister passed away from 298 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.839 brain cancer when she was six, and that's when I was eight, and 299 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.720 then my brother passed away when I got married back in twenty eighteen, I 300 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:40.359 believe, And from there my mom had a few other children, and my 301 00:21:40.440 --> 00:21:45.319 youngest sister is just as old as my son, so it I believe it 302 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:48.759 was sixteen. Oh wow, it's like it's like growing up in a in 303 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.720 a large group of friends, you know, like some I'll tell you this. 304 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.960 I don't know if I should be ashamed of this, but I did 305 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.680 it for science. I'll say it that way. M one of my brothers. 306 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:02.240 I just thought to myself, I had a thought occurred to me one 307 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:06.279 day. What would happen if you just avoided one of your brothers for a 308 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.880 year, for a solid year. Would they notice? How would they change? 309 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:14.039 Would you realize a difference? How would it? What would happen? 310 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.279 So I did it to one of my brothers, and I just completely avoided 311 00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.319 him at all costs. Anytime he would show up in the room. I 312 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.680 would move to another room and it was kind of heartless, but I did 313 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.880 it just to see what would happen. And come to find out, he 314 00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:33.359 noticed. He told me this because I told him this. What was it? 315 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:34.759 A couple months ago? I asked him if he noticed that I was 316 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.240 avoiding him, and he says, dude, I don't know what happened, 317 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.160 but it felt like you hated me. And I was like, oh, 318 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:45.680 I'm so sorry I did. But it turns out he's one of the most 319 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:51.640 talented artistic people you've ever met in your life. He's he does graphic design, 320 00:22:51.720 --> 00:22:55.440 he does music. He's on Spotify almost he's on SoundCloud. His names 321 00:22:55.440 --> 00:23:00.279 Caleb Karaji if you want to look up his music. He's talented beyond all 322 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:02.480 measure. And I guess that's all you have to do is avoid someone and 323 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:07.720 they turn into an artist. That's incredible. Well, God said something, 324 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.359 So let's let's get into the flat Earth. If I were to tell you 325 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:21.279 or ask you, what are the three the biggest piece of evidence to you 326 00:23:21.720 --> 00:23:25.319 that leads you to believe that the Earth is we'll just use the term flat 327 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:29.279 for now. Well, yeah, I can get on board with that. 328 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:34.119 With just calling it flat because I'm agnostic to either viewpoint, because like I 329 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:37.960 said, it doesn't really change how I live my daily life. But the 330 00:23:38.000 --> 00:23:42.359 one thing that leads me to believe that is just how how far you can 331 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:48.359 see on the horizon line. The fact that we can't actually map with any 332 00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:55.319 technology nowadays three points of a triangle and getting it to be over ninety degrees, 333 00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:56.559 like the theory is. The theory is that on a flat plane, 334 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:00.799 three points of a triangle will equal ninety degrees. Every time I think it 335 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:03.359 was it's ninety, right or one hundred and twenty might weigh off my numbers, 336 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:04.880 No, I think not. I think you're right. I think it's 337 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:07.440 ninety. My math is terrible. I was terrible in high school with math. 338 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:11.839 But either way, on a circular, on a sphere, you're going 339 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:15.640 to get more than ninety degrees because the angles shift to reach the other direction. 340 00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:22.160 And we have never been able to make that, uh calculation. There's 341 00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:30.440 no real test that has been able to make that calculation without any computerized intervention, 342 00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:33.839 which as soon as you get into computerized intervention, code assumes a lot. 343 00:24:33.960 --> 00:24:38.559 When you're putting in to code into computer code I've dabbled into computer code 344 00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:42.640 a little bit. When you program something in the computer to run something, 345 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:48.680 you have to put in some preconceived ideas to get your desired outcome to make 346 00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:52.079 it work. So as far as GPS, we'll say it that way. 347 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:56.720 What GPS triggonometry was, as far as I understand it invented so that way 348 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:02.519 we could map out a three dimensional plane. Right, Well, if it's 349 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:07.039 not three dimensional, but you can assume that the math would work on a 350 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.920 three dimensional plane and then just plot certain points on a three dimensional plane. 351 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:15.200 You can set up an infinite number of triangles to make the GPS system work. 352 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:21.119 So this is where in my mind the math just needs to be changed. 353 00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:23.240 Math can work. It's a language. Can't remember the name of the 354 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:26.799 guests you had on. It was one of these guests that you had on. 355 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:30.799 One of the preachers. I think his name was Rudolph A. Ralph 356 00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:36.240 Oh, I can't remember either way. He was talking about how math is 357 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:41.000 the universal language, and it is and for that reason, when NASA supposedly 358 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.599 sent up a shuttle into space, they put a record of Elvis, a 359 00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:49.759 gold solid gold play to record that Elvis had so alien life could hear music. 360 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:55.000 They put a diagram of a human being male and female, and they 361 00:25:55.039 --> 00:26:00.839 put the mathematical location of Earth in the Solar system on the satellite that went 362 00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:06.920 out into space. Is the lore behind this? Now, to put the 363 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.240 location of Earth on this would assume that it's stationary, because if it's flying 364 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:15.440 through space, how would you find it? So there's that problem. But 365 00:26:18.359 --> 00:26:23.440 my point with this is if you have math as a universal language, and 366 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:26.599 math can be a language, because that's what we're calling it, right, 367 00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:32.640 well, if you can use language to enforce an idea, well you can 368 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:37.200 also use language to manipulate somebody to believe a certain way because you can speak 369 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.519 that language better than the person receiving it. So it's just like someone using 370 00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:44.400 big, high falutin college words, like Jordan Peterson, who does dumb it 371 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.519 down a bit, but he does use these high falutin words, and it's 372 00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:49.759 something that's okay, I understand what you're saying, because I have a little 373 00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:55.960 bit of a better vernacular than even my brothers and sisters. But then someone 374 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.240 is simple minded, and not to use that into derogatory sense, but a 375 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:04.200 simple mind it is simple in language. As a youth pastor would use simple 376 00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:07.480 language that everyone can understand. Well, the person using the high flutin words 377 00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:11.799 is on a different plane. And if you don't understand everything he said, 378 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.519 he can manipulate any which way the conversation or the topic. It's the same 379 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:21.599 with math. If you have someone who understands math better and says, this 380 00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:26.920 equation proves the Earth is round because of these multiple equations that run into god 381 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:30.279 knows where. Well, if you don't understand it, you can't tear it 382 00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.799 down. You can't say well he must be wrong. You can't you can't 383 00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:40.200 refute the math. But if all you have is a manipulation of the facts 384 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.359 by using math, because math is just what was it? Well? Who 385 00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:45.319 said this? I think this is where our rule. Who said this that 386 00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:51.759 math is just a way to verify if something can be true? Right, 387 00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.519 It doesn't mean that it is. It should be something that supports the theory, 388 00:27:55.599 --> 00:28:00.640 not be the theory. Because Tesla warned us years ago that math was 389 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.240 replacing science, they would backwards engineer this, this math to get to the 390 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:07.359 answers that they wanted and say, see the math adds up. Hey, 391 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:08.319 I didn't hear that one. That's a good quote. I like that. 392 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.680 I'm going to start using that in my arguments. That's good. Everyone respects 393 00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:17.079 Nicola Tesla, so I gotta start using that. That's great. Yeah he 394 00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.079 was. That's a whole other episode within itself. Not to jump ship, 395 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:22.720 and I'm not. I promise I'm gonna jump right back. But everything you 396 00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:27.160 just described, does that not correlate to what we've seen in the last three 397 00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:30.720 years. Well, the guy in the lab coat says it's good for us, 398 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.720 so we better roll up our sleeve. There you go. There's that 399 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.319 manipulation of not that's a manipulation of your emotions right there, your language and 400 00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:41.400 your emotions. Just hey, this guy. Trust him. He's the one 401 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.000 who knows more than you. You need to trust this guy. Ye Ah. 402 00:28:45.079 --> 00:28:48.519 Yeah, it's frustrating. COVID is a whole nother problem, and that 403 00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:53.160 is something that I refuse to let people forget about. Oh and no one's 404 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.799 forgetting about it here in this family. I tell you, we're all. 405 00:28:56.880 --> 00:29:00.200 We're all. We got that that eye, that open eye just all away 406 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:02.240 staring at the government. What are you going to do next? We know 407 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.200 what happened, we remember, Yeah, the gentleman, I just interviewed before 408 00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:11.240 you, which will drop when tomorrow night at a pm. He stood strong 409 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.799 in his conviction. He lost a very good paying job. And again it 410 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.680 was a weird thing. And I think anybody who held these what did they 411 00:29:18.720 --> 00:29:22.160 call it? When you would have to type up this paper your religious exemption? 412 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.160 And I've tried to hold so many corporations feet to the fire. Who 413 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.960 was on the board, what was their religious background? How did they work? 414 00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:33.440 And nobody would answer these questions. Oh my goodness, that's that kind 415 00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.920 of pissed me off a little bit that you have to petition and say, 416 00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.559 I do truly believe that this is that my religion says this, when that 417 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.400 should be your own personal Why does that have to come into play at all 418 00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.880 in this decision making? And you know, flat earth, pardon me, 419 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:52.599 flat earth and everything else aside. If you do not have physical autonomy, 420 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.680 you don't have anything. Everything else goes right out the window. Agreed, 421 00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:03.119 Yes, agreed wholeheartedly. So there you go. All right, let's let's 422 00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.799 jump back on the flatter What things that are you curious about that we need 423 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.119 to further hunt down or get to the bottom of, for lack of better 424 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:17.119 words. Yeah, So to round out the last point. It was just 425 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:23.599 that the observation seeing farther than we can see and seeing that over the horizon, 426 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:29.079 we can see way too much when it's supposed to dip down. And 427 00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:32.279 there's plenty of good calculators online. I can tell you how it's far it's 428 00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:33.960 supposed to dip down, and we can still see past that point. That's 429 00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:37.839 that one, but that's a huge one, and I'm planning on doing this 430 00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:41.559 test with my brother in law this year. I'm hoping that i could get 431 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:45.400 enough money saved up, which it's not too much, but you know, 432 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.960 single income family. Either way, I want to go down to Salt Lake 433 00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:52.279 City, Utah, go to the flats and then test it out, see 434 00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:56.039 how far we can see with a telescope or binoculars or some camera or something, 435 00:30:56.519 --> 00:31:00.200 and see if we can see pass what we're supposed to see. If 436 00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.680 we can, well, then that's just more evidence in the bag. That's 437 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:07.599 a great place to do it, one of the better ones, because on 438 00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:11.200 a ship it's just it rocks a little too much to see past the horizons. 439 00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.359 I'd like to use this all flats, but either way, one thing 440 00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:23.279 that gets me questioning flat Earth as a shape of the Earth. Like, 441 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:29.000 I'm all for geocentrism. I've been on that train since twenty eighteen. That's 442 00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:34.720 not a problem to me. But as far as flat Earth, there's the 443 00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:41.200 idea that the Bible supports it because it talks about the Sun moving, and 444 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:45.640 yes, it talks about that all the time. There's just in the Old 445 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:49.440 Testament alone, I think thirty six occurrences of the Sun moving either going up 446 00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:52.640 or going down. And that's the key word there. It says going up 447 00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.960 and going down. Now in any of the flat earth models. And this 448 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.440 isn't something that I'm holding anyone's feet to the fire for. I'm just trying 449 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:05.240 to understand if we can get that system that we can actually use and say 450 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:12.519 this works biblically for flat earth and by every measure, because biblically already geocentrism 451 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.160 works, and flat works because of the pillars that are holding up the Earth 452 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.160 and plenty of other things. But as far as the Sun and moon, 453 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.759 how does the Sun move up and down in the flat earth model, when 454 00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.279 every model I see it's just moving in a circular motion over the plane of 455 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:34.519 the Earth. That doesn't jive with the interpretation that is in the word well 456 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.000 it, you know, very early in Genesis, it mentions that he actually 457 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:44.200 places God actually places the Moon within the firmament, and the firmament kind of 458 00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.359 does go you know, up and down in a you know, let's just 459 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:49.920 look at it if we would, as a snow globe. And I do 460 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:54.759 think it moves circular and up and down within the firmament. So I do 461 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.759 think it has the ability to go up and to go down at the same 462 00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:04.680 time. It can also circle away and seem like it's disappearing as well. 463 00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.000 And I also believe that the Sun is its own energy, and I believe 464 00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:10.359 the Moon is its own energy as well. I don't believe it's an old, 465 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.240 dusty ball that reflects the sunlight. Yeah, neither do I. That's 466 00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.079 there's that another thing. When the first moon landing happened, the idea is 467 00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.160 that the Moon has either no atmosphere or such a little atmosphere that you can't 468 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:24.799 move out there. Okay, all good and fine, we'll go with that. 469 00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:28.799 We'll believe that for a moment, well, with no atmosphere, all 470 00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:30.519 the radiation from the Sun is hitting the surface of the Moon. For let's 471 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:35.759 say millions and billions of years since the Big Bang will continue this level of 472 00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.279 thought here. Well, then if that's the case, they're supposed to be 473 00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:43.880 miles of dust that the astronauts would have fell through a right, and this 474 00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:49.559 was a big fear for NASA. That's right. And you know what the 475 00:33:49.599 --> 00:33:52.599 other big thing that you know that people I don't think about enough and I 476 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.880 don't even know if I've mentioned it, so that the Earth is between twenty 477 00:33:57.880 --> 00:34:01.599 four thousand, twenty five thousand miles around and the Moon is I want to 478 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:07.039 say, it's like sixty one miles around according to them, So it's about 479 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.320 a quarter of the size of the Earth. So why does the Earth look 480 00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:14.800 the same size in the photos that NASA took as the Moon and the same 481 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.599 in reverse? We shouldn't that the Earth look just like this monstrous, huge 482 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.079 ball being photographed from the moon. Oh that is something. See I heard 483 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.840 you say something just like this and I couldn't put it into words. I 484 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:30.079 was having an argument with a globalist at Bible Camp just a week ago, 485 00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:34.400 and I couldn't tell him what that argument was. That's perfect. I'm going 486 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.519 to tell him to listen to so you can hear it. That's great, 487 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.079 that's great. It should it should, just like you know how sometimes the 488 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.719 sun looks like this. Every once in a while we get that what is 489 00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.199 it the whatever the sun is where it just looks like this giant blood orange 490 00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:51.599 in the sky. The earth, she looks just so huge from from the 491 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.840 moon, and it looked just like the same size of us looking at the 492 00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:59.000 moon tonight. Mm. Yeah, I need to I need to look at 493 00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.360 that initial well, you know, I don't need to. I already in 494 00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:02.920 my mind I can see the photo that you're talking about. Yeah, that 495 00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:07.119 doesn't make sense at all if we're talking about size of things. There's no, 496 00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.239 it doesn't it doesn't make sense. It's the lens. No, it's 497 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.320 the lens. I'm sorry, George, You're wrong. It's the lens they 498 00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.519 use. That's right. That the lens from nineteen sixty eight just made everything 499 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.039 look smaller. It was just miniaturization come on time, and we would do 500 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:27.480 it again, but we lost that technology, that tiny lens technology. Yes, 501 00:35:27.920 --> 00:35:30.039 oh man, you can't make this stuff up. My goodness, grip 502 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.679 No, no, no, well go ahead, sorry, no, you're 503 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:37.239 you're you're totally fine. I like these I like the conversation. I like 504 00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:38.840 going off track a little bit. It's just fine to me. There was 505 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:45.039 that question was how does that work? And you're going back to Genesis. 506 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.480 So with the timeline of how old the earth is, we're going to go 507 00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:51.159 biblical with this. And this is why I brought up the idea of the 508 00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.079 sun going up and going down. Well, with the timeline, there's these 509 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:59.880 uh biblical creationist scientists whatever, I can't remember the exact phrase for what they 510 00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:01.960 call themselves, but they're the ones that say, well, the Big Bang 511 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:06.440 could have happened by God's will and then billion the years that's how God did 512 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:12.159 it. No, because of this, well there were six days of creation, 513 00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.840 Well, each day could have been a millennial. Well, I'm sorry. 514 00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.800 Reread Genesis and see that it says the morning and evening were the first 515 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.800 day, the morning and evening were the second day. It is by day. 516 00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:27.800 So we can't we can't just pervert the scripture just to fit our narrative 517 00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.599 that was given to us because we were raised to believe this. No one 518 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:34.400 believed this for thousands of years. But now because we're educated in some way, 519 00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.280 because we have iPhones, we're better than everyone else. I'm sorry, 520 00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:42.559 that doesn't make sense, doesn't drive Yeah, but then you go ahead. 521 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.119 I was just going to say, for those listening at home, Genesis one 522 00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:46.760 thirteen and the evening and the morning with the third day, so that it 523 00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:51.639 does mention in several verses talking and making it not a millennial, not one 524 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:57.480 hundred years one day. Yeah. So that's the biggest argument that I have 525 00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:00.760 against other people who try and bring that up, and there's been quite a 526 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:04.400 few which I thought this was kind of not disputed. I thought that it 527 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:07.880 was just general knowledge that it was in days. Whether we want to make 528 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.559 an argument for young Earth or millions of years or if it doesn't matter. 529 00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:15.159 I thought that some Christians would suspend belief if they were going to believe in 530 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:16.519 science and just say, well, we don't believe that, but they're trying 531 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.519 to make it make sense when the verses clearly state the opposite. But to 532 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.639 go in that same vein if we're going to take the literal interpretation of scripture, 533 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.039 and I want to preface this real quick, so I'm going to come 534 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.000 back to the morning and evening, So I'm just putting a mental note here. 535 00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.639 If we're going to take the literal interpretation of scripture. All scripture is 536 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:40.280 given by inspiration of God, is profitable for reproof, for doctrine and exhortation, 537 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.480 cool every single bit of it. That means even the things you disagree 538 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:52.239 with. That means that there are certain pet verses that you can look at 539 00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:57.480 and say, well, maybe they didn't interpret this the right way. And 540 00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.000 that is something I hear way too often, way too many creatures, and 541 00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.920 I tune out whenever I hear that because of this reason. If you discredit 542 00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.360 any verse of the Bible, if you discredit any of them and say, 543 00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.000 well, it's a mistranslation, it's a poor translation, it's something that could 544 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:15.119 have been translated better, as at that point every single verse is up for 545 00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.719 debate, then everyone's faith is eroded completely, because now how do I know 546 00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:22.559 I can trust anything in my Bible? Because this guy who's more knowledgeable than 547 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:25.199 me, to go back to that equivalency, this guy who's more knowledgeable than 548 00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:30.480 me because he studied Greek and Hebrew, knows that this verse should have been 549 00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:34.320 translated differently, and it means something wildly different because of that fact, So 550 00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.719 how can I trust any of my Bible? If we start doing that then 551 00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:43.519 every verse is up for debate, and now we can believe in the creation 552 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.119 theory of NASA or whatever government decided to say it was billions of years old. 553 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:51.320 I think that's where all the problems came from, is when we started 554 00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:57.079 to have started losing our faith in the actual infallibility of scripture. Now I 555 00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.800 get it, we can say, oh, er have crept in? Well, 556 00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:06.920 what verse in the Bible made you believe that? There's no verse in 557 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.119 the Bible that talks about errors creeping in the Only thing it actually does is 558 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:15.679 talk about preservation. So I can't believe that God would only inspire the word 559 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.440 but not preserve it over time. Just kind of like, well the Jews 560 00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.079 have it, to say, the Jews, whoever, it doesn't matter who 561 00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:25.400 the Israelites they have it now, and everyone else that doesn't have the original 562 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.880 manuscripts. I'm sorry. He sucks to suck. You guys are going to 563 00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.440 help. It doesn't make sense, not at all, and doesn't make sense 564 00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.000 to me. And what you said is then you hit the nail right on 565 00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:40.880 the head. Is we can't pick and choose, you know, what we 566 00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:45.159 believe as firm and what is Well, it was either you know, not 567 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:50.639 translated correctly or you know, they were this was six thousand years ago. 568 00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.199 They weren't really the smartest people, and these were just proverbs. They're kind 569 00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:59.559 of analogies in order to fit a certain narrative. And I'd like to add 570 00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.360 on an ad ask you this question. You know again, I've read the 571 00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:06.440 Book of Genesis many many, many, many, many, many many many 572 00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:12.559 times. There's got to be preachers out there who kind of understand, like, 573 00:40:12.880 --> 00:40:15.800 hmm, maybe there's something to this, and maybe they've gone to a 574 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:20.880 YouTube video where they came upon a podcast called the Flat Earth Files and they 575 00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:27.239 kind of they're kind of like hip to the flat Earth. And do you 576 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.400 think there's preachers out there who understand it, you know, who are in 577 00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:34.519 the same, you know, a line of thinking like us, but are 578 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:38.360 just afraid to lose congregation or to be why not. There's the verse in 579 00:40:38.360 --> 00:40:42.039 the Bible that says, fear not the faces of men. I'm pretty sure 580 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.559 I'm misquoting it, but it's essentially that. And the only reason it's in 581 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:49.280 there is because someone would. You're a preacher, you're going to be afraid 582 00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.440 of what people are going to say about you sometimes. But it's it's all 583 00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:57.159 about what was it? David. The only reason why he went out to 584 00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.760 go and fight Goliath was because he got angry about it. Literally says that 585 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:06.800 he was angered because everyone else because Goliath was defaming the Lord God. Essentially, 586 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:08.880 I'm very much misquoting everything. I haven't memorized my verses. I know 587 00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:13.280 the stories, but I feel terrible for misquoting. Well, it's a bigger 588 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.480 way. Well, yeah, he got angry. That's the only time that. 589 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:21.960 Yeah, well not only time, but that's one of the best motivations 590 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.920 for getting a little bit of courage is to get angry. That's I mean, 591 00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.559 I'm not advocating anger, but it's just it depends is it righteous anger? 592 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:32.079 Are you angry at the right stuff? And if you are, you're 593 00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:36.679 going to be sufficiently courageous to do what it takes to spread the word and 594 00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.320 speak the truth. It's as simple as that. Yeah, and so many 595 00:41:39.320 --> 00:41:43.760 occasions. Let's just go back to last week. I saw one of the 596 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:45.920 pictures for I think it was the Toronto Blue Jays came out because they were 597 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.199 having their Pride weekend, and he said, you know, I wasn't a 598 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.800 fan of it, you know, because of my faith, and like twenty 599 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.679 four hours later, he's back doing the same old song and dance, apologizing 600 00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.239 he's going to take classes and learn to be a better person. And uh, 601 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:05.119 you know, it's so often we don't ever hear people that stand firm 602 00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.199 in their faith. I'm sorry. My mother in law just came in the 603 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.239 room. She's trying to give me some food, and I'm trying to tell 604 00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.079 her that I'm on a podcast and she's not listening. She doesn't even know 605 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.840 what I'm doing. She's one of those first generation Romanians. She moved here 606 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.840 when she was like thirty or something. I don't know. I'm probably butchering 607 00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:24.440 this. My brother in law is gonna get pissed off because I said this, 608 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:27.920 But yeah, I shouldn't know what I'm doing. That's the first thing 609 00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.639 they want to do is split food in your belly exactly. That that's good 610 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:34.639 Romanian food. I'm telling you it looks good. But I'm waiting. I'm 611 00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:37.199 waiting. Awesome. Oh yeahs. Yes, the Blue Jays, Yes they 612 00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.559 did. They did backpedal. I'm sorry that I know you word, but 613 00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.679 they did. And it's because there was no courage, because I mean, 614 00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:49.280 what are you gonna get angry about there's no righteous anger. Whenever you're in 615 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:53.800 a position where I'll say it this way, your advertisers is what's funding you. 616 00:42:54.199 --> 00:43:00.559 The advertisers are the ones that will force you to call it, bend 617 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:05.280 the knee to anyone's will, because that's what the supposed public interest wants, 618 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.039 and advertisers need to be brand safe. If you're going to say anything that's 619 00:43:08.039 --> 00:43:10.880 not brand safe, well then I'm sorry, but there goes your career. 620 00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.320 So are they going to bend the knee and allow themselves to be ruled over 621 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:24.039 by their advertise what's right and lose everything? I don't think that they would 622 00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:30.280 lose everything. I think that they will say this. I think that there 623 00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.679 is a moral argument to be made that you could bend the knee and actually 624 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.159 be justifiable. I can't find it yet, but I could see it being 625 00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:45.320 made. Yeah, interesting, but you know the kicker was they still ended 626 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:50.440 up dropping that guy off the roust or after all of that. That's what 627 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.440 I mean. Yeah, you could find the argument, but then like you 628 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:57.719 go and just do complete one eighty. What are you doing? There's no 629 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.119 way to defend you at all if you're gonna fall on your sword, you 630 00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.599 know, do it with your chin up, not looking down at the ground. 631 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:10.679 Yeah, it certainly is. Hey, you look at that. That's 632 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.320 hilarious to hear. I'm sorry, it's just a funny way to say. 633 00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:15.559 It's like you're gonna kill yourself. Do it the right way. Yeah, 634 00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.920 exactly, if you're going to ruin your career, you might as well go 635 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:21.480 out, you know, being a hero being somebody who was a coward. 636 00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.760 I agree, I agree, And back to Covid on that topic, the 637 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.519 gentleman who gave up his job. I mean, good for him for holding 638 00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:31.679 up his morals. I didn't have to. I mean I had the luxury 639 00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:35.400 to where I didn't have to make that decision. I was in framing. 640 00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:37.920 So framing, you're outdoors, and you're all a bunch of burly men who 641 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:39.800 don't care. It's just we're gonna keep working. I'm sorry, but I 642 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:42.679 mean, you're gonna come up here with your mask on and tell us to 643 00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:45.159 get off the house. You can't hear you. Sorry, we got hearing 644 00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:46.320 protection. You got to come back later. Yeah, you got guys with 645 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:52.480 nail guns and swinging away. Exactly. No one was gonna come up up 646 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:54.559 to us. But then you go to the gas station to get some lunch 647 00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.039 and everyone's masked up. You're in there all dusty and dirty, and someone 648 00:44:59.079 --> 00:45:01.000 decides to cuss you because you're going to kill his grandma and kill them all. 649 00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:06.440 And it is what it is. Man, I don't know. You 650 00:45:06.480 --> 00:45:08.719 know, I said many times when I was doing my radio show last year 651 00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:12.599 that it was the biggest COVID, was the biggest PSI up in the history 652 00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:15.159 of mankind. But I'll be honest with you. You know, in retrospect, 653 00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:20.960 you know that globe is sure does rival it? Oh? Sure? 654 00:45:21.079 --> 00:45:25.079 Well here's the thing. Here's a thing. I am essentially playing Devil's advocate 655 00:45:25.159 --> 00:45:30.199 right now, Rains. We're talking about Bible topics. Yeah, but I'm 656 00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:34.719 essentially doing that now. I'm not. It's not like I'm closed off completely 657 00:45:34.760 --> 00:45:37.000 to the idea or I don't believe it at all, and I just know 658 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.079 the arguments. Well, I'm fully open to the idea that the Earth is 659 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:44.639 flat. And everyone that I encounter, I mean almost every new person I 660 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.920 encounter. I did this at my new job. I did this at the 661 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.039 no agenda meetups that I go to. I did this at what you call 662 00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:54.039 it a Bible camp. I asked the preachers if they believe in the flat 663 00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:59.519 Earth, because I want to find all the answers I possibly can, and 664 00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:01.400 I want to of the lifestyle without just saying, ah, it's for other 665 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:05.239 people. Let me just know what they know. I'd like to see what 666 00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.559 it's like to believe this, and I do to a degree. There's just 667 00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:13.639 a few things, just a few that I'm still okay. So one of 668 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.840 your guests you had on I can't remember this gentleman's name either. It's terrible, 669 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:22.280 but I'm not remembering. Remember these guys. Anyone who wants to know 670 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:24.239 who I'm talking about, listen to every past episode of Flatter Files and you'll 671 00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:30.360 find him. One of these guys mentioned. I think it was that same 672 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.320 preacher, Ralph or Rudolph, one of one of these names he mentioned Balls 673 00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:40.880 Out Physics, great great video series. This guy is a genius. He 674 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.199 is wonderful and he doesn't even do art. He doesn't even position his arguments 675 00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:49.400 as this is why the flat Earth is correct. He positions it as I 676 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:52.800 found some holes in the globe Earth model and it makes me skeptical, which 677 00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.199 is probably the best position to take because you're not. You're agnostics to the 678 00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:00.000 situation. You're just saying this kind of makes more sense than the other one. 679 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.400 May your decision here. And then from there I found another channel called 680 00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.920 the guy's name is Rob Durham, F sixteen pilot retired guys starts talking about 681 00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:12.360 how the Earth is flat because you can see two four pasts of the horizon 682 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.920 and the radar assistance we have. The training manual says train as if you're 683 00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:22.480 on a flat, unmoving stationary plane. Yep, it's it's in your face. 684 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.840 Yeah. I've seen the technical manuals for UH sixties the Blackhawk helicopters, 685 00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.159 because I was in a METAVAC unit that had seven of them and it legitimately 686 00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:35.599 had that phrase in the technical manual. And of course back then in what 687 00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:37.840 it's in your face? Yeah, that was back in two thousand to two 688 00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:42.480 ninety eight to two thousand and one. Back then, I was just worried 689 00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:45.039 about how man it could have. You know, I could have opened a 690 00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:47.840 mill van and a whole bunch of flat earth books fall on top of me. 691 00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:51.920 I've been just thrown them back in and closed the door. I do 692 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:53.679 believe you have to be in a certain frame of mind, and you have 693 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.519 to be a certain part of your life to be willing to be receptive to 694 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.840 flat earth. What are your thoughts on that? Oh? For sure? 695 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.400 For sure? Like that's that's probably one of the better better points that you 696 00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:09.280 could have made in this in this entire show with me, is that specifically, 697 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:15.239 if bringing it back to religion with Christianity, the only reason why you're 698 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:19.719 ever receptive to Christianity or why why you to accept it is because you've been 699 00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:23.679 made receptive by the Creator, by God. So it literally says in the 700 00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:27.559 Bible that faith is a gift of the Holy Ghost. So how are you 701 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.800 going to say that it was all your own? It was a gift that 702 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.400 was imparted to you. You decided to receive it, you became receptive of 703 00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:36.199 the message. Same thing with this, you have to be receptive to the 704 00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:38.239 idea. You have to be willing to understand where people are coming from. 705 00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:42.239 And that's another problem that we have a question for you. What do you 706 00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:45.239 think about the word division in today's day and age? How How often do 707 00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:50.000 you think it's been used well? To be honest, the word itself, 708 00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:52.920 Um, I think it has more of a meaning to me than just the 709 00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:57.400 word, because I believe everything, whether whether it's sports, whether it's politics, 710 00:48:57.679 --> 00:49:01.400 everything in the news. Look look at Covidan, COVID divided families. 711 00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:06.159 I remember sitting at our Thanksgiving table at the end of twenty twenty. This 712 00:49:06.199 --> 00:49:08.000 would have been just a few months before they started rolling out the vaccines. 713 00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.559 And I mean, it's Thanksgiving. It's supposed to be a time when we're 714 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.599 all sitting around enjoying a great meal. In my family, that's one of 715 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:20.719 the more cherished holidays. That's my most special. I always even as a 716 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:23.320 child, when we got gifts, I always thought Kanks Thanksgiving was awesome because 717 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.639 we ate good. I love turkey, watch football, spend time with family. 718 00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.199 Else never a big gift guy. But you know, for one of 719 00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:36.000 my favorite holidays, my favorite time of the year, to have people looking 720 00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.119 at us disgusted because we had already said that we weren't going to get a 721 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.920 vaccine. Man, you want to talk about division, I mean that that 722 00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.320 is what if you want to call them the controllers of the Hidden Hand or 723 00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:55.480 Satan, that division is one of their most powerful tools that they use against 724 00:49:55.559 --> 00:50:00.719 us. And that's one thing I will say is when I took this podcast. 725 00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:06.639 And look, the reason this podcast came about is because every time I 726 00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:08.320 brought it up on the fact Hunner, I'd get a lot of negative emails 727 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.639 saying, look, you're you're really destroying your your name and you know this, 728 00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.039 that and the other thing, even mentioning the flat Earth. So I 729 00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:21.599 said, fine, I'm going to put it in its own space and like 730 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:25.280 minded people will come and listen, and for that I'm thankful for. But 731 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:30.719 at the same time, I don't want this to be divisive. If you 732 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:32.760 know, if it's not your time to believe, and we'll shake hands and 733 00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:37.599 move on. Because going back to what you said, as important it is 734 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:43.119 to me because the flat Earth has I've gotten so many emails and messages and 735 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:47.039 phone calls saying that the flat earth has brought people back to God and back 736 00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:52.320 to the Bible, and even Bible believers reading it in a different way. 737 00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:55.480 It's very powerful stuff. But in no way do I want it to be 738 00:50:55.599 --> 00:51:00.719 divisive. And again, you don't have to be a flatter through you know, 739 00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:01.880 to go to Heaven. Right, going back to what you said much 740 00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.840 earlier, Yeah, I think I think you're probably one of the better people 741 00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:08.800 to do it you have a cadence. Do you have a way of speaking 742 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:14.320 that just makes everything seem more calm than it is. Even if it is 743 00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:16.840 calm, it just seems like something you could listen to while putting the kids 744 00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:20.960 to sleep. It's not to give it a negative idea, but it is. 745 00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:25.599 It sounds great, no excitement of the negative variety. It's great. 746 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:30.320 I like it. It's always just positive emotions, positive energy. I like 747 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.880 it. But go ahead. The question that I was bringing up was for 748 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:39.880 this reason. Before COVID came out, there was all all of the riots 749 00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:46.880 and LGBT stuff, and news every news channel that you could hear was giving 750 00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:52.239 you statistics on how divided America is on this topic, on that topic, 751 00:51:52.280 --> 00:51:54.519 on the other topic. And my question to you is, do you know 752 00:51:54.559 --> 00:52:01.000 what NLP is? Neuro linguistic programming. It sounds like happened that something that 753 00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:04.760 has to do with a chip being implanted, but I'm not familiar with it. 754 00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:07.800 No, No, it's a way of speaking. A lot of public 755 00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:10.679 speakers will look into this research it. There's a lot of gurus out there. 756 00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.039 So if you look up an LP on YouTube and you look up neuro 757 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.639 linguistic programming, you'll find some Indian or Pakistani people who are talking about it 758 00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:22.159 in a really weird woo woo way, And there may be something to it 759 00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:27.000 in that regard. But it's the idea that a certain word holds a specific 760 00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:29.960 meaning, and that specific meaning has a specific power, and if you use 761 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.119 that, it's better to convey a certain message than this other word. So 762 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:39.519 to use the word division in a certain way is to say this percentage of 763 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:45.360 Americans are divided about this topic. Well, at that point, it's reinforcing 764 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:47.079 your brain that we are a divided country, and you hear it constantly, 765 00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.679 over and over and over again. Well then at that point, once COVID 766 00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:55.360 rolls out and they just spin the message to hair just to use the word 767 00:52:55.440 --> 00:53:00.599 COVID, this many Americans are divided on the idea that COVID from a wet 768 00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:05.480 market or came from some government operation. Well, those people are wrong. 769 00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.840 I'm right. I need to be on one of these sides of the argument 770 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.400 because they're divided about these two that's right. So it's one of these things 771 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:15.760 that and it comes from the news. It's it's all. If you want 772 00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:20.639 to listen to a great podcast, it's just for comedy for good news deconstruction. 773 00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.280 You should check out the No Agenda show. It is wonderful, wonderful 774 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:29.639 for that topic. They they're great kept me saying through the COVID nonsense because 775 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:32.880 I didn't have very much sources of information. They were great to debunk most 776 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:37.920 of everything that came out I was. I was very calm during the entire 777 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:42.639 process, mostly due to them and the fact that the community I was around 778 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:47.599 had more faith in God than we did in vaccines. Amen to that. 779 00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:51.079 That's what I love to hear. You know, So's one eighteen eight talks 780 00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:54.440 about putting your faith in God and not in man. And unfortunately, you 781 00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:59.360 know, as soon as they and again, you know, Hollywood and television 782 00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:02.159 puts the stuff in your brain. Whether it was what was that big series 783 00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:06.679 on with the zombies net, I don't know if it was Netflix, whatever, 784 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:10.320 but the big zombie TV show that came on every side. I haven't 785 00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:13.719 seen it, but I know what you're talking every Sunday night. It was 786 00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:16.400 on for so many seasons, and then of course there was contagion and it 787 00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:20.599 was outbreak and they plant these stuff in your head. So as soon as 788 00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.679 they started, and it was right before the Super Bowl in twenty twenty that 789 00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:27.239 were showing these images of people in Uhan, Shina just collapsing in the street. 790 00:54:27.719 --> 00:54:30.800 And you know, unfortunately, once again people were turning into the lab 791 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:37.639 coats and not the man above, which I mean it. We can get 792 00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.960 into that even further about how that's been eroded over time because science has kicked 793 00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.920 in. I mean a quick fact for you, we're doing a subset of 794 00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.639 the fact. Unter, do you know how ibprofen came to be? No, 795 00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:52.599 I don't. I'd love to hear it, though I tell everyone this 796 00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:57.119 and this is just this is just so you know that everything has a spiritual 797 00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:59.119 nature. And my brother in law, if he's gonna listen to the show, 798 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:00.480 he's going to kind of skip through this portion because he's heard it too 799 00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:05.440 many times. But back in the day, I can't remember exactly when. 800 00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:07.760 But there's a book on this. It's called The Cosmic Serpent, if anyone 801 00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.119 wants to look into it. And I'll have another point to make about getting 802 00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:13.559 books, because Raoul wanted to find a one. I found it for him, 803 00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:15.880 and I'll help everyone else find their books if they want to. But 804 00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:22.519 Cosmic Serpent came out and he was looking into the relations between DNA and shamanistic 805 00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:28.519 practices in South America and kind of all around the world, and you start 806 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.960 to wonder, what are shaman worried about DNA? How do they even know 807 00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.480 about this doesn't make sense? Well, you start looking into the history of 808 00:55:35.519 --> 00:55:37.760 DNA, how it came to be and how people who not came to be, 809 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:43.039 but how it was discovered, how it's been represented by two entwined serpents 810 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:45.039 going up a ladder, which has a lot of esoteric meaning, boy, 811 00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:53.320 that looks like bathham It's stomach there, doesn't it? Essentially that? Yeah, 812 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:58.679 Well, what happened was these medical companies. I think it was actually 813 00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:01.360 Merk specifically. I'm I'm gonna be sued for saying that, but either way, 814 00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:06.719 one of these companies decided to say, we need new medicines. We 815 00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:08.480 need to find out how to get new medicines, because all they were referencing 816 00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:13.840 was a book called Demateria Medica. It's an old Greek book that some Greek 817 00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:16.480 dude way back in the day decided to figure out every single illness and how 818 00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.840 to cure it, and he wrote a book and we're still referencing it today. 819 00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.239 To make medicines. Well, they said, we need new ones, 820 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.880 so let's go down to South America and ask the shaman. They're doing something 821 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:29.519 crazy out there, and everyone who's going down there is wondering, what in 822 00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.559 the world what are shaman going to teach us? Well, they go down 823 00:56:31.599 --> 00:56:37.719 there and they get down into the jungle or where misquoting the story, but 824 00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:42.159 they take ayahuasca. Ayahuasca, ayahuasca, how you pronounced it? The liquids 825 00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.719 to back up, Yeah, yeah, And it's very very specific the way 826 00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:49.280 you have to take it. It's almost a medical procedure. The guy tells 827 00:56:49.280 --> 00:56:52.239 you, if you want to take this, you can't eat thirty two hours 828 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:53.480 prior, make sure to sleep. If you're going to eat anything, eat 829 00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:57.039 this specific route. Make sure you drink a lot of water before you get 830 00:56:57.039 --> 00:56:59.519 here, and make sure in wait six hours before you take it. All 831 00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.079 sorts of things. It's crazy, the kind of thing they take you on, 832 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:07.360 very guided practice. Well, they start taking this, they're under the 833 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:12.400 guidance and they start talking to the plants, and the plants start talking back 834 00:57:12.440 --> 00:57:15.400 to them. And this is a group of people. It's not one individual 835 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:21.679 having one individual vision. It's multiple people seeing the same exact thing, and 836 00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:24.360 they hear the plant saying, Okay, you want to make a certain medicine, 837 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.239 mix this plant with this one, then mix that one with me. 838 00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:30.239 Boil us for this long, coolest sound for this long. There'll be a 839 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:34.440 powdery substance. You caps put that into capsule, and there's your medicine. 840 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:39.199 And they call it ibuprofen. Wow. And that's how and that's how a 841 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:44.320 lot of the medicines nowadays have come to be is well, I'm not going 842 00:57:44.360 --> 00:57:45.800 to say a lot. I'm going to say a good number of medicines have 843 00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:51.559 come to be based on that. And ibuprofen is just so commonplace that it's 844 00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:52.960 everyone knows what it is. I'm allergic to it. I can't take it. 845 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:55.159 I've been since I was a kid, and I probably always will be. 846 00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:01.320 But it's it's kind of creepy how things come to be. It's a 847 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:05.320 fact, a fact for the show. I'll just put it out there as 848 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.360 that, Yeah, you know, that's really interesting. Number one, And 849 00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:12.159 I'll put the book in the show description. It's uh, if this is 850 00:58:12.199 --> 00:58:16.480 the correct one? Cosmic Serpent, DNA and the Origins of Knowledge by Jeremy 851 00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:21.079 Narby. Yeah, that's the one, yep, and looks like you get 852 00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:24.719 it from Amazon for eighteen bucks on paperback. But it's funny because when you 853 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.880 look at the little book description, it talks about a Copernican revolution for the 854 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:32.599 life sciences. There's Copernicus for you right in there. What a connection? 855 00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.480 What a connection? Yeah, and just looking at look looking at the you 856 00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:38.840 know this guy. It's interesting. This book right now, I guess it'd 857 00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:43.239 be twenty four years old, came out right before two thousand and one day. 858 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.719 I'm definitely going to read that book. And yeah, it's not a 859 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:50.119 bad one. The guy documents his entire experience, how he came to his 860 00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.000 conclusions. It's it's a little bit um, how would you say. It 861 00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:59.000 makes you wonder if you've read any Dan Brown and you're not strong in your 862 00:58:59.039 --> 00:59:01.840 face, and makes you question your Christianity. This one does a little bit 863 00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:05.880 of that as well. Because you can't deny that people have had experiences. 864 00:59:05.920 --> 00:59:08.400 You just have to put them in their proper categories, as in, this 865 00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:15.599 is a spirit that is leading this person versus this is some metaphysical, supernatural 866 00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:17.920 alien encounter. It's more just these are spirits, just like the Bible talks 867 00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.199 about them and if you keep them in their categories biblically, you shouldn't have 868 00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:27.000 your faith shaken. But it's just a warning to anyone who's a little lacking 869 00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:30.360 in the faith. They'll say it that way. Wow, that's so much 870 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.239 interesting stuff. And I wanted to ask you before I forget, do you 871 00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.039 currently have a podcast or and forgive me if I'm if I shouldn't ask you 872 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.960 this on there? Or are you is there a podcast coming from you? 873 00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.840 Oh? No, you're fine, Yeah, I had I still it's still 874 00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.119 up. It's still live. Anyone can listen to it. It's called the 875 00:59:47.159 --> 00:59:53.199 Clodcast. It's not anything special yet. I'm planning on I'm planning on starting 876 00:59:53.239 --> 00:59:57.079 a new season. I stopped that episode number thirty three. Ha ha. 877 00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:04.519 It wasn't intentional. It just happened. I know, it just happened. 878 01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:07.159 It was an interview with my brother. We were talking about Andrew Tate, 879 01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:10.639 which was strange, But a bunch of the other ones had actual themes to 880 01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:15.840 them. I had segments. I had Bitcoin segments, I had what grinds 881 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:17.880 my gears segments. I had all sorts of different things, clips, audio 882 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.320 sam pulls, all sorts of things but it got to be able too everywhere. 883 01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.920 It was so general purpose, it wasn't focused, and I need to 884 01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:30.079 focus it on something else. So I'm planning on and maybe maybe someone from 885 01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:31.480 the audience might be able to help me out with this. I'm planning on 886 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:37.079 doing a dramatized history podcast where I talk about all sorts of things that are 887 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:38.920 kind of brushed under the radar, a little bit like I don't know if 888 01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:43.920 you've heard of the Koza rev mirror experiment. Not off the top of my 889 01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:50.840 head. No, it's very it's very weird spelling. It's like a Russian 890 01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:57.119 spelling of the word koza revkao are why something? Well? Either way, 891 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.320 the idea is that there was oh you know what, never mind, I'm 892 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:01.679 not going to go into it too much. Too many rabbit trails and my 893 01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:06.639 ADHD brains kicking in. Does it have something to do with a mirror? 894 01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:12.679 It does, Okay, I found the right one. So it's going to 895 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.199 be interesting to look into. But I want to make a dramatized audio record 896 01:01:16.599 --> 01:01:22.760 starting of the happenings on the ground level of that, specifically that Operation paper 897 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:29.440 Clip, Operation Blue Beam, all these all these conspiracy theories which I like 898 01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:31.519 just to call conspiracy therapy. I stole that from Adam Curry. But it's 899 01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:36.719 very, very good stuff to look into it, and if it's dramatized, 900 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:38.360 I feel like it would be accepted a little bit more in the same way 901 01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:42.440 that any TV show. As soon as it's dramatized, you suspend belief for 902 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:45.400 a second and then you start thinking, ah, maybe that could have happened. 903 01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:49.480 So you start off with voice acting, awesome audio production, it'd be 904 01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.320 great, good script writing, maybe two or three minutes, and then after 905 01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.800 you get maybe even ten minutes, maybe it's a whole show, I don't 906 01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:59.320 know. And then after that you go into the actual facts, like the 907 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:04.400 fact does on the topics that there are, So it would just be as 908 01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.960 an operation paper clip. We brought a bunch of Nazi scientists over, Okay, 909 01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:10.280 well, how can we make that interesting for the masses. Start bringing 910 01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:15.239 in some people that speak German and start having to speak to people who are 911 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:17.880 speaking English, and then make it a giant conspiracy and then have some fun 912 01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:22.480 monologues and dialogues and car crash effects and all sorts of different things. It'd 913 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.280 be fun. Yeah, And one thing I will say is that podcasts that 914 01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:32.199 are garnered in the entertainment category, they get looked upon much more than in 915 01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:37.760 education or government or those type of categories. So if you do it that 916 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:40.599 way and you label it as entertainment, kind of as a check this out 917 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.679 and maybe five or ten minutes of drama, and then all of a sudden 918 01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:49.400 you get into the hey, this really happened. I think that's a great 919 01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:52.079 way to both entertain and educate people. I think you might get hit at 920 01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:55.199 home run there. That's a good way to say, gotcha, you sent 921 01:02:55.280 --> 01:03:00.159 it in, no kidding that that's tremendous. I hope you have great success 922 01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:02.079 with it. And uh, if you ever do, get it up and 923 01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.760 run and definitely come back and let us know so the listeners can can definitely 924 01:03:06.800 --> 01:03:08.800 be on board and listen in. And let's I want to stay with that 925 01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:14.360 for a second. With Operation paper Clip, because that had so many you 926 01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:19.960 know, it led to NASA obviously, with Warner von Brown and so many 927 01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:23.639 other people, whether it be at Fort Dietrich down in Alabama, Redstone, 928 01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:30.199 Arsenal, was it Redstone or oak Ridge? With the Oppenheimer and all this 929 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:34.360 other stuff. What are your thoughts is this? Did it legitimately happen as 930 01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:38.719 it did, or do you think these were characters created because most people didn't 931 01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:43.400 even know about it until I think it was a Marvel movie and like Captain 932 01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.199 America's like gives us this two minute education on Operation paper clip clip during a 933 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:52.440 movie. Oh do you think that that Operation paper clip actually happened? As 934 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:54.039 your question? Yeah, because I think a lot of our history is made 935 01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:58.400 up, and people like I believe Elon Muscus a character, I don't believe 936 01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:01.920 his backstory is is like correct, I think he's a character on the world 937 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.280 stage. Well, yeah, it kind of sounds a little hard to believe 938 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:12.079 that the only South African I've ever made millions and billions is white. Kind 939 01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:17.079 of it's kind of weird, but either, I mean anyway, I don't 940 01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.679 I don't know. I don't know about I don't know about Operation paper Clip 941 01:04:20.760 --> 01:04:27.239 and it's being real or fake enough. Everything is a little bit of skepticism, 942 01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.440 every bit of it. I guess the I guess what I would have 943 01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:35.079 to do with this show would be to try and verify some of these things 944 01:04:35.079 --> 01:04:41.440 based on the fact hunter, see if any of these things have been proven 945 01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:44.800 true, and then make a dramatized audio about it and just link. If 946 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:46.119 you want to learn more, check out the fact on it. There you 947 01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:48.880 go, and I'll tell you the hardest part of my job on that side 948 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:54.039 of the podcast spectrum is, you know, when most of everything is based 949 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:58.119 on lies, it's really hard to get to the bottom of things. I 950 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:00.679 agree, I agree, just like any lie you'd tell my goodness, my 951 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:05.719 kid is just starting to tell lies about uh in school and not having girlfriends. 952 01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.800 It's like, yo, homeschool and it's just around the corner. I 953 01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:14.000 tell you what, you're six six? What are you doing? That's hilarious? 954 01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:16.920 Um? Yeah, but um, you know with paper clip you you 955 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:21.119 you have. You know, all you hear in history is how horrible these 956 01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:26.639 people were and and they killed six million people, but it was cool to 957 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:30.000 bring them over and do these other things. And none of it makes sense 958 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:31.679 to me. And that's when when I did my podcast last week, I 959 01:05:31.679 --> 01:05:33.840 actually had to walk out, so I took like a two mile walk. 960 01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:36.079 I'm like, you know, you look at the numbers, you look at 961 01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:40.960 the stories, you look at how evil. Um what's his name? The 962 01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:44.960 guy who was led Russia during World War Two? I'm having a brain cramp 963 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:48.519 right here. Oh whoa, whoa not Stalin? Sal was yeah, Stalin, 964 01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.360 it was Stalin. It was okay, that was Mussolini. I'm thinking, 965 01:05:51.360 --> 01:05:56.199 okay, yeah, yeah, uh and he killed you know, reportedly 966 01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.480 fifty sixty million people, and uh, it's just none of it makes sense, 967 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:02.519 and then that just leads to everything. It's the kind of the same 968 01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:06.599 feeling I had when I finally right. I kept getting the emails and I 969 01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:09.920 put my guard down. I'm like, I'm just going to prove that this 970 01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:13.599 whole you know, flatter thing is ridiculous and I'm going to move on with 971 01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:15.199 my life. You know, when I went down that rabbit hole, I 972 01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:19.119 kind of felt the same way. You know, how many times is this 973 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:24.760 government who you know, I worked for and served for twenty four years, 974 01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:28.199 Like when did the lies ever end? You know, it's just it. 975 01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.239 At some point you laugh about it, But there's sometimes when I get very 976 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:35.719 upset about it. I can't imagine you wouldn't, especially since I mean I 977 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:41.000 don't have military experience. But that's the whole nother. It's like whenever you 978 01:06:41.079 --> 01:06:44.000 hear someone say you'll never understand what it's like to lose a child or so 979 01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:45.639 love a child until you have a child, like a brother is one thing 980 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:50.079 and a nephew is one thing. And I always thought to myself, Ah, 981 01:06:50.079 --> 01:06:54.639 that's not true. I can I can have the same kind of love 982 01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.239 and it's not even close to the same. I mean to a degree. 983 01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:00.639 You know, some people can empathize pretty well. But I'm just watching an 984 01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:02.519 Instagram video about a kid being happy for a birthday cake, and I'm tearing 985 01:07:02.599 --> 01:07:05.599 up like a little sissy because I'm thinking, Man, I take care of 986 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:09.480 my kids and this kid isn't being taken care of and finally he gets some 987 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:13.679 love, and it just it's you different. Yeah. And also to say 988 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.480 that I would understand that the lies and never stop in the same way you 989 01:07:15.559 --> 01:07:20.199 do, that's disingenuous. But I think the lies never stopped. They just 990 01:07:20.280 --> 01:07:23.480 don't. I mean, how could you. When when are you going to 991 01:07:23.519 --> 01:07:25.599 own up and say, oh, we got you, we were lying. 992 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.199 Yeah, and you can't. Yeah, you make a perfect point too, 993 01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.199 because I think the old me, before I became a father, you know, 994 01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:35.559 all these things that we're doing, When when when you see the videos, 995 01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:40.800 whether it's like Instagram or whatever social media, when when you saw these 996 01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:45.840 little children getting vaccinated and they're just screaming and crying those type of things. 997 01:07:45.960 --> 01:07:49.679 You know. Going back to that anger that David felt was the kind of 998 01:07:49.679 --> 01:07:53.000 anger that I felt. And I'm the type of person. You know, 999 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:55.480 Adults are going to be adults, and they're going to do what they're going 1000 01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:58.840 to do as long as it doesn't harm other people. But when you start, 1001 01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.840 um, you know, messing with the children, that is a line 1002 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:05.239 that we should all, you know, being good people and Christians and just 1003 01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:11.519 good human beings, we should draw the line there. That's another thing. 1004 01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.039 That's another thing right there, is the messing with the children. That is 1005 01:08:14.079 --> 01:08:17.319 something that's it's a buzzword right now in the media is a lot of the 1006 01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:21.199 would you rather have a live daughter than a dead son or however you want 1007 01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:27.119 to phrase that, and it's it's picking out at the children and then all 1008 01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:30.239 of the trans Story Hour or whatever whatever you feel about it, it doesn't 1009 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:33.359 matter much. It's it's morally reprehensible. But then again, the parents are 1010 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.439 bringing their own kids there, so they're the parents that are doing it to 1011 01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:40.520 their own kids, So how can you stop them? But then again, 1012 01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.319 when does CPS get called? And then if they do, will they call 1013 01:08:44.399 --> 01:08:45.960 them on you because you have a certain set of beliefs. It's it's a 1014 01:08:46.119 --> 01:08:50.359 very tricky line to cross there. You can have your beliefs and maybe you 1015 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:54.600 can petition someone and maybe you can try and reason with them. Maybe, 1016 01:08:55.119 --> 01:09:00.720 But that part where it's messing with the children, that is probably what's going 1017 01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:03.640 to bring in the next civil war, right there is the children part. 1018 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:09.800 Everyone is gets very riled up about messing with the children, and justifiably so. 1019 01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:12.840 But I think we need to be careful about all the news articles that 1020 01:09:12.920 --> 01:09:15.279 come out about children. There could be a lot of fluff, a lot 1021 01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:21.279 of a lot of articles just to incite violence, so to speak. Yeah, 1022 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:25.520 they want to get a reaction from us, right and why not? 1023 01:09:25.920 --> 01:09:28.760 Why not especially to show that the crazy flat earthers are the ones that are 1024 01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:32.840 gonna kill everyone because the kids. Yeah, and I've said Claude that there's 1025 01:09:32.840 --> 01:09:35.560 going to be a false flag in the near future and one of the backstories 1026 01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:40.239 is going to be he's a flat earther. Just wait, I'm telling you, 1027 01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:44.079 man, I'm telling you. And he's a podcaster. Oh my good. 1028 01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:50.640 Delaware chicken farmer George Hobbs was arrested today chicken farmer and flat earther chicken 1029 01:09:50.720 --> 01:09:56.479 and oh my goodness, kids cover your ear. Yeah, they would be 1030 01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.399 throwing trash at me as they hold me off to jail. You loser. 1031 01:10:00.359 --> 01:10:03.920 Hey, speaking of your podcasts, I wanted to call you out in front 1032 01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:08.760 of everyone else, just so you can so everyone can hear this. Have 1033 01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.880 you looked into podcasting two point oh at all? You know? You mentioned 1034 01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.680 it in our podcasts, and I keep getting emails from Spotify about doing video 1035 01:10:15.800 --> 01:10:20.359 stuff, and to me, I want to because what you if I remember 1036 01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:24.520 correctly, which is dangerous because I've got an old memory, but I think 1037 01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:29.399 you said something very interesting to where like I do a podcast about whatever, 1038 01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:33.239 and say a month down the road, I can actually add and listeners can 1039 01:10:33.279 --> 01:10:38.399 add show notes within the podcast. Am I am? I right? So 1040 01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:41.880 the listener part not just yet. They're working on that specifically. I'm a 1041 01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:46.680 podcast two point podcasting two point oh fanboy and evangelists kind of sort of. 1042 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.079 I've been using a lot of their features for the last two years since they 1043 01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:54.439 first started. So Adam Curry, the guy who invented podcasting, decided to 1044 01:10:54.640 --> 01:10:58.560 revamp it. Him and his partner Dave Jones, he's a developer. Adam 1045 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:01.159 Curry is a guy who dreams up the ideas well. They decided to add 1046 01:11:01.159 --> 01:11:04.439 a whole bunch of new features to podcasting. So this is also a news 1047 01:11:04.479 --> 01:11:06.479 for Rule. I haven't talked to him on the phone yet. If he 1048 01:11:06.479 --> 01:11:11.239 listens to this, he can hear this and hear the benefits of podcasting two 1049 01:11:11.279 --> 01:11:15.039 point zero. What you can do is you'll set up an RSS feed on 1050 01:11:15.199 --> 01:11:19.439 a podcasting host that supports it, or if you're a self hosted person, 1051 01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:23.920 it's all the better. You can set up a Bitcoin wallet to receive lightning 1052 01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:26.399 transactions. If someone is going to donate to the show, which I would 1053 01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.920 donate to your show in a heartbeat, and you'd be able to do it 1054 01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:33.279 all through bitcoin. Just one percent of the proceeds go to the person who 1055 01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:36.439 made the show, and that's how it works. It's all through your own 1056 01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:40.880 podcast app. Then you can use chapter art. So if you were talking 1057 01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:44.439 about Operation paper Clip and how it's a fraud and you have a document to 1058 01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.880 prove it, and you wanted to show the document to the listeners, what 1059 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.000 all you would have to do is set a time marker for when you talked 1060 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:54.439 about it, tell your audience look at the screen right now, and at 1061 01:11:54.479 --> 01:11:57.880 that point it would flash the image and for as long as you've set the 1062 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:00.760 time of that said document. You can even set in jifts if you'd like 1063 01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:05.399 to, or gifts however you pronounce it, and it would essentially be a 1064 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:10.479 video podcast. As long as people don't do times to speed everyone it does 1065 01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:14.880 times to speed stop it. It's not good for your health. But that's 1066 01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:17.039 Those are two of the main features. And there's transcripts. You can search 1067 01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.159 through every transcript. There's location tag So if you wanted to do a podcast 1068 01:12:21.199 --> 01:12:25.880 where you're talking about a specific location and it's only for that set of people, 1069 01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:29.439 well, if you're in that location, you can check the podcast from 1070 01:12:29.479 --> 01:12:32.079 the fact Hunter and say, oh wow, there's a podcast about Philadelphia right 1071 01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:34.359 here. I want to listen to it. No one else has heard it. 1072 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:38.359 It's exclusive however you want to do it. Tons of features. I 1073 01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:42.600 would just encourage people to look into podcasting two point zero if you're looking to 1074 01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:46.399 podcasts or looking for podcasts that have really really interesting things they're doing with their 1075 01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:54.520 show. One podcast did a chess match on a podcast where they were they 1076 01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:58.319 had a gift or gift However, playing the entire episode where you could see 1077 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:00.960 the moves being played and they had a conversation the time, it was crazy. 1078 01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:04.079 Wow. Now did that take a lot of work? Did they continually 1079 01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:08.800 have to make like individual jifts for every move? No? No, it 1080 01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:11.560 was one long video that they converted into a Jeff Rail you can do that 1081 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.840 their software to do it, and then they just placed it at the beginning 1082 01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:16.239 of the show and then stopped it at the end of the show. That's 1083 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.479 very interesting. And like when I mentioned earlier about me being the chicken farmer 1084 01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.760 hauled off to jail, I coul put a little cartoon of me being toted 1085 01:13:21.800 --> 01:13:28.520 away by the police in Yeah, that's awesome. That's very interesting. Well, 1086 01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:30.960 I have I mean obviously in RSS feed from spreekl I'll have to go 1087 01:13:31.000 --> 01:13:33.920 to that because I know I still have the link in your email. I'm 1088 01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:36.520 looking at it right now and I'll have to see if that's something little. 1089 01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:43.119 Yeah, okay, I think I think I actually heard because podcasting two point 1090 01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:45.199 oh, they have their own podcast where they talk about all the stuff that's 1091 01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.640 coming out, all the new new advancements. You can listen to it on 1092 01:13:49.720 --> 01:13:55.520 not on Spotify. They are very very anti Spotify. Well, you know, 1093 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:59.279 in a way, that's any of the they want to be decentralized, 1094 01:13:59.479 --> 01:14:01.359 that's the idea. I don't want to be on a centralized platform that can 1095 01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:05.159 kick you off at any whim because you're a flat Earth or because you talked 1096 01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:10.359 negatively about the COVID yep, yep, and listen. I did an it's 1097 01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:13.119 funny, not funny, ha ha. But two months ago I did an 1098 01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:18.600 episode on Ted Kazinski and Spotify pulled it. Oh yeah, I started my 1099 01:14:18.640 --> 01:14:21.800 email, got full what happened episode one whatever? You know, one fifty 1100 01:14:21.800 --> 01:14:26.760 one, And I don't know if it was something because I used the b 1101 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:29.800 the word bomb, so i'mwhere in the II picked it up and booted it 1102 01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:32.439 or Ted Kazinski is a keyword, and you know, it's interesting words. 1103 01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:34.920 Just did it? Yeah, they transcribe everything. Yeah, oh yeah, 1104 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.640 for sure. And like six weeks later, boom, he dies on June 1105 01:14:38.640 --> 01:14:42.199 tenth, And if you look back through history, I mentioned it on Today's 1106 01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:45.039 Fact on our episode all the things that happened on June tenth and history within 1107 01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:49.800 the last fifty years between the CIA and all the Apple two's being shipped for 1108 01:14:49.800 --> 01:14:55.479 the first time. I think he chose that date to kill himself. Huh 1109 01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:59.680 you think so. I think it's a possibility if you look well in the 1110 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:03.279 history the last fifty years. And also there was two famous escapes on June 1111 01:15:03.319 --> 01:15:08.640 tenth, one one of the IRA guys from Ireland and the one guy I 1112 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:12.000 believe, the one guy who escaped Alcatraz, And I think so, you 1113 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:14.600 know, he picked that day because that was his way of escaping jail. 1114 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:18.159 And the anti technocracy with Apple two's being shipped for the first time, the 1115 01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:21.840 penning Um two ship being shipped for the first time, and CIA being found 1116 01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:26.119 out having all the secret files on Americans that all happened on the history and 1117 01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:30.199 June of June tenth. Excuse me, Well, yeah, no one's listened 1118 01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:32.560 to the manifesto. That's because it's he put out. I'd encourage you to 1119 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:35.600 listen to it. The grim Erica podcast. Has I listened to this in 1120 01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:40.199 back in twenty nineteen if he wanted to listen to it. It's an industrial 1121 01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:44.640 society in its future, I believe, and go listen to it. They 1122 01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.279 have the full thing they did, uh, basically an audible and it's quite 1123 01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:54.239 long, but it's very, very frighteningly spotted it. Yeah, it's very 1124 01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:56.960 accurate. It's it's if I remember, because I put it at the end 1125 01:15:56.960 --> 01:15:59.840 of mine too. It was like two and a half hours. Yeah, 1126 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:03.359 he's it's wonderful. Yeah, if if only he didn't blow people off. 1127 01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:06.479 Yeah. You know what's really strange, which I didn't know until I did 1128 01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:11.119 the episode. One of the three people he killed, the guy's name was 1129 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:15.880 Epstein and he was a geneticist. Oh boy, yeah, like he was 1130 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:19.359 related. Yeah, who knows. I mean, just it's really odd. 1131 01:16:19.359 --> 01:16:24.159 And of course his brother ended up giving him up, right, I don't 1132 01:16:24.199 --> 01:16:27.439 remember any of Oh yeah he did because he found his writing style on the 1133 01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:29.920 manifesto and said that sounds like my brothers. Yeah, and he gave him 1134 01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:30.600 up. Yeah that's what I heard. Yeah. Yeah. And the poor 1135 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:34.159 guy was mka Ultra. He was sixteen years old when they mk ultraed him, 1136 01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:39.039 which one his brother or him know him Ted Kazinski when he was at 1137 01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:42.640 at Harvard at sixteen years old. Because he graduated at fifteen, they sent 1138 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:45.199 him to Harvard and he went through the mk Ultra program while he was there. 1139 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.600 Oh that sucks. He was a brilliant dude. Maybe that's what happened. 1140 01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:50.760 Yeah, that decided you know what, there's a little bit of sanity 1141 01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:54.439 left, let me write about it. And then went off. Yea, 1142 01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:58.000 yea. And So whether or not they programmed him to do that, or 1143 01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.920 that was his way of getting back at the government or a combination, I 1144 01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.239 guess, you know, we'll never know. They just moved him to He 1145 01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:08.920 had just moved a year ago from the supermax and Florence, Colorado to the 1146 01:17:09.119 --> 01:17:12.399 you know, they have a place in North Carolina for older, much older 1147 01:17:12.439 --> 01:17:17.760 prisoners and those with real physical disabilities that need constant monitoring. What yet, 1148 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:23.960 eighty they send the supermax folks to North Carolina. So I'm willing to bet 1149 01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:27.520 that he had a less surveillance dale that that's why he was able to pull 1150 01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.800 it off. Probably, I think they did that for that reason, to 1151 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:32.560 be able to allow him his time. Maybe he even put in the request, 1152 01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:35.560 Hey June tenth, guys, move me over. Yeah, who knows, 1153 01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:40.880 it's it's it's crazy, but yeah, I echo your point. Everybody 1154 01:17:40.960 --> 01:17:45.039 should listen to that. It's it's very good, very insightful. And also 1155 01:17:45.159 --> 01:17:48.000 another recommendation, man, I'm just full of recommendation. State Atlas Shrugged. 1156 01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:51.760 If anyone wants to read a good book, Atlas Shrugged probably one of the 1157 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:56.880 better ones, talking about hard work, talking about what will happen whenever society 1158 01:17:56.920 --> 01:18:00.720 fails. And it won't fail because industry. It'll fail because the movers and 1159 01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:06.159 shakers of the world will stop moving and shaking. So just prepare, Like 1160 01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:12.159 that's all that you can do is basically prepare yourself for whatever comes next. 1161 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:17.840 And that starts with starts with reading your Bible and then moves on to everything 1162 01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.560 else. And if the flat Earth brought you to reading your Bible, continue 1163 01:18:21.560 --> 01:18:25.960 reading your Bible and then moved back to flat Earth. Amen, I can't 1164 01:18:25.960 --> 01:18:29.560 hearken that enough. That's a great analogy. By the way, that movie 1165 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:31.319 did it no justice. The book, which I believe was written in nineteen 1166 01:18:31.359 --> 01:18:34.119 fifty seven, is a tremendous book, and it is one of those things 1167 01:18:34.159 --> 01:18:38.720 that again I think I even read that that was one of the things that 1168 01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:45.399 really sparked or kind of touched a chord with Ted Kazinski. I think that's 1169 01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:49.319 part of his story. That book really meant a lot to him. Yeah, 1170 01:18:49.359 --> 01:18:53.600 Ian Ran she was a Russian immigrant and she learned the English language so 1171 01:18:53.640 --> 01:18:56.880 well that she wrote a book that was basically the number one best seller. 1172 01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:00.439 It was it was the King James Bible, the Marine Corps Code of Conduct, 1173 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:03.840 and Iron Ram's Atlas Shrugged on the bedside table. That's what was in 1174 01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.399 people's houses back in the day. It was insane. I mean, as 1175 01:19:08.439 --> 01:19:12.680 far as what people have said, was that life changing of a book, 1176 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:18.880 very very inspirational. That's incredible. Well, you have absolutely this is one 1177 01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:25.319 of the fastest podcasts I've ever done. You are full of information and your 1178 01:19:25.359 --> 01:19:30.279 spot on with your faith. And I've said this before to a few of 1179 01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:34.159 the other guests that we've had. I'm thrilled to know that you're only twenty 1180 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:41.479 six years old, because you have the conviction and the morals of someone much 1181 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.079 much older and wiser. And I think, if it's okay, that's kudos 1182 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:48.640 to how you were brought up, your parents and your siblings and your family. 1183 01:19:49.079 --> 01:19:54.880 And I'm glad to hear that you were a homeschooler. And to everybody 1184 01:19:54.960 --> 01:19:59.079 listening, this is someone who is homeschooled and will be homeschooling his family, 1185 01:19:59.199 --> 01:20:02.760 and it just echoes. You're only twenty six years old and you have so 1186 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.039 much wisdom and wherewithal to what's going on in the world. And I just 1187 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:09.840 want to commend you on that. Yeah, that's a lot of praise. 1188 01:20:09.880 --> 01:20:11.800 I don't know if I can live up to it, but thank you. 1189 01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.000 Yeah. And you know, you hear people all the time, especially the 1190 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:18.000 older folks, this younger generation. And I've had so many guests, you 1191 01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.000 know, in mid thirties and below that have just tremendous and have a good 1192 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:27.760 head on their shoulders, and and I just it just motivates me and it 1193 01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:30.079 makes me happy to know there's a lot of younger generation out there who are 1194 01:20:30.119 --> 01:20:33.880 on board and can see through, you know, all the worldly things that 1195 01:20:33.920 --> 01:20:36.920 are going on today. And it's easier for people just to side with, 1196 01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:41.159 you know, the mob, right, you know, just go along, 1197 01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.079 to get along and move along with their day. But it takes a very 1198 01:20:44.119 --> 01:20:47.199 special type of person like yourself to stand up to the mob and say that's 1199 01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:49.199 not right. This is how I'm going to live my life. So much 1200 01:20:49.239 --> 01:20:53.000 love to you and your family. Brother, Yeah, thank you, thank 1201 01:20:53.039 --> 01:20:55.239 you so much. Thanks for having me on. This was great. I 1202 01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:58.079 hope we can do it in the future and maybe I'll have that podcast going. 1203 01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:00.359 Maybe I'll bring some new information. Yeah, definitely do that, and 1204 01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.119 I would like to give you, um, you know, the last couple 1205 01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:09.119 of minutes here for whatever else you wanted to say, sir, oh oh, 1206 01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:15.960 shoot, I wasn't prepared for this. Okay, read your Bible. 1207 01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:20.279 That's pretty much it. Have faith in your Bible. I have. I've 1208 01:21:20.319 --> 01:21:25.399 done some studies on as as much as I possibly could, and even one 1209 01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:29.119 of my podcast episodes is on the King James Bible and why I think that 1210 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:32.319 one is correct. Everyone has their own reason why they think there's is correct. 1211 01:21:32.399 --> 01:21:36.399 I have my own. It goes into that. But if you're reading 1212 01:21:36.439 --> 01:21:40.760 your word, if you're reading the Word of God, that's what matters the 1213 01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:44.479 most. I'm not gonna say that I wouldn't want you that. I'm not 1214 01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.960 gonna say I wouldn't be more happy if you would be reading King James. 1215 01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:53.920 But then again, if you're living out the biblical life and mindset of Christ 1216 01:21:54.399 --> 01:21:58.079 with either of the translations, any of them, really, then you know, 1217 01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:00.880 more power to you. But focus on that above all else. That's 1218 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:03.439 all I can say. And there's been so many guests as you've had on 1219 01:22:03.479 --> 01:22:10.640 that have said so much more in the way of speaking to Christ and how 1220 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:14.520 to live a Christian life and to live a Christian life better than I could 1221 01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:16.199 say, So I'm going to leave it to them. I encourage everyone to 1222 01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.520 continue listening. I encourage you to find the truth that is in the Word. 1223 01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:24.600 And if Flatter has brought you to the Word, continue in it. 1224 01:22:24.680 --> 01:22:28.159 You're going to find way more interesting things than just flatter. It's like giants, 1225 01:22:28.239 --> 01:22:31.680 dragons, and unicorns, which are all in the Bible. So keep 1226 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:35.119 on reading. You're going to find some crazy things. It's wonderful. It's 1227 01:22:35.159 --> 01:22:41.239 wonderful the Word that you have in your hands, and that it's literally God's 1228 01:22:41.279 --> 01:22:44.600 Word. And that's all I can really say about that. Well, I 1229 01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:47.600 couldn't have finished it in a better fashion. I appreciate it. And if 1230 01:22:47.600 --> 01:22:50.800 you'd like to reach out to Claude again, his email will be in the 1231 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:55.359 show descriptions. You can just copy and paste it and email away. It 1232 01:22:55.439 --> 01:23:00.319 is the claudecast at proton dot me for Claude. I am George got bless 1233 01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:02.079 you all, you guys, have a great week, keep your head on 1234 01:23:02.119 --> 01:23:05.760 a swivel, and until next time, my friends, we will see you