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Hey, Hey, and welcome everybody
back for another week of Reconnected, celebrating

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our end of the year episode with
mister Zachary K. Bryant from They Live

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by Film. Zach, welcome back. It's been trying to think about this

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earlier. Was the last time,
really May when we did the Vinegar Syndrome

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thing, I think we met.
I'm trying to think, trying to think

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what was the last thing we did. I know we did women directors for

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Horror, and then I can't think
if we did one after that. It's

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been It's been a crazy time.
Michael Smith is asking how you're not a

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country music store. Many letters in
my last name, So it's been a

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long time. There's been a lot
of stuff that's happened in physical media with

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the podcast and everything. Has of
the year been for you? It's been

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it's been busy. The podcast has
been good. We're trying to make a

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slight change to those who listen,
so we're figuring that out now. I

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think we do a format change.
It seems like every year, so I

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guess it's just tradition at this point. But beyond that, just I got

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a vacation a month and a half
ago, and that's pretty much all I

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worked for in twenty twenty three,
and now I can just move on to

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the next year. So why was
it such a big vacation tebrity where you

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went? I went to Eastern Europe, So I started out in Poland,

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I went to Slovakia, and then
I went to Austria, and then I

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went to the Czech Republic and that
was over two weeks. And I am

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still jealous that you got to do
that. Well, you know, I'll

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be jealous of myself for the next
couple of years when I can't afford to

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do anything else. So it's fine. Uh yeah, that's the hard part

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of travel, and that's for me. Like, that's why I dread it,

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because doing it for a family of
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like traveling to Eastern Europe just for
one person's expensive. Yeah, that would

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have been Chris. But it is
a great interview. I will definitely pass

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that along to him. Zach is
sometimes there for the interviews, mostly listening

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behind until he thinks of some amazing
question and then you realize twenty minutes into

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it, oh, Zach was there. Yeah, yeah, I just try

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to hide in and see what happens. So what you've been watching? Is

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there anything been going on movie wise? He been paying attention to. Well,

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I've been catching up on the twenty
twenty three list. I got to

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one hundred and five movies from this
year so far. I'm gonna go see

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Ferrari tomorrow and beyond that, I've
been trying to actually watch more stuff.

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I enjoy so a lot of Found
footage here lately, because I have to

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get into that about once a year
and go watch a bunch of useless stuff

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on TV and then try to get
other people to watch it. I just

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put out my episode on Found Footage, just got probably a month ago,

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and I swear it's the It's one
of those topics that I am super passionate

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about, and I got like no
engagement from it. I swear nobody likes

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found footage except for like me,
you, and like eight other people in

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the world. You know. I
just it's it's like the last night we

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were watching me and my girlfriend were
watching host that one that Rob Savage did

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I had, I haven't seen it
had been on my list since I watched

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dash Cam, And you know,
she's sitting over here in the corner with

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like a pillow over her face,
and I'm just like, you don't see

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that, Like I can't get her
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found footage terrify her, and I
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I uh yeah, there's a lot
and found footage that I love that it

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seems like hardly anybody has seen.
That's the biggest thing. Is I just

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trying to get people to hear about
some of these because they just they don't

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get enough of the I guess word
of mouth going compared to some of these

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other films, or if they finally
do, they end up like getting a

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lot of criticism. Like I mean, I know the criticism agains Blair Witch

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Project is it's boring, But I'm
like, that's kind of what makes that

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movie work because it's boring, Like
I I adore that film to death,

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But the fact that nothing really happens
is you know what makes it what made

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people actually believe it happens because it's
like, well, we didn't see anything,

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like, so must it could be
real? Uh, Well, tonight

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after our announcements, which there's not
that many, which I didn't really plan

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on there being too many tonight,
so we're gonna have kind of a big

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topic tonight. We're gonna be discussing
our top ten favorite Stephen King adaptations because

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I just wanted the world to fight
tonight with us. I kind of figured

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this is gonna be a contentious topic
for many people. We'll talk about some

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other recent watches because I think there's
some on my lists from this week that

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you've seen already, and then a
couple pickups that I wanted to share from

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some patrons this week. But I
feel like I did much better than normal

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watching some recent films this week.
So the Holdovers? Did you get see

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the Holdovers? No? I missed
that one, to be honest. There's

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a lot of movies in my area
where it's like they would show up for

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a week and then they'd go.
That was one of them. Dream Scenario

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was one of them, and there
was another one I just mentioned today,

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and I was like, I didn't
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see any of those because they ran
for one weekend and left. YEP,

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that's the worst part about some of
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Holdovers, I am going to be
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all of the nominations. It is
that good of a movie. The three

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leads that are in this I would
not be surprised to see any of the

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three of them in. Giamatti is
deserving of the Best Actor. Probably the

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student. He's a new actor.
I cannot remember his name at the moment.

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He's incredible throughout this film. But
then Divine Joy Randolph is just remarkable

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in this movie. It is such
a great performance from her, really really

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great combination of the three of them
coming with very different personalities and just meshing

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this very like brash feeling movie that
turns into sort of a feel good movie

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by the by the end of it. So it's great. And we have

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multiple people saying hold Over starts streaming
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I do have Peacocks. I have
to give that one a watch. If

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it's as good as you're saying it
is. Simmoner is saying Dominic sina.

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I think it's Dominic SSSA. Now
that you say that, I think I'm

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remembering that right. Yeah, it's
it's pretty incredible. Alexander Payne did great

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in it, but yeah, Giamatti
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easily the best thing he's ever done. But the other thing, the Iron

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Claude. You can see that one
yet I did. I saw it on

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on Christmas Eve. I went to
see that an Aquaman double feature. What

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great well of a double feature?
How'd you feel about Aquaman? Aquaman?

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Is actually feel in the minority that
liked it. I like the first Aquaman.

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I like James One a lot,
so that there's my bias that I

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don't know. It's a it's a
goofy little movie. It's it's really goofy,

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it's really dumb, and I kind
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I don't know. I was also
the type that like Warder Woman eighty four

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for kind of the same reason,
Like I don't know, I don't I

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kind of like, I feel like
there's a lot of these, a lot

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of superhero movies trying to take themselves
like a little too seriously. Even Marvel

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with all the jokes that I feel
like it tries to like elevate itself above

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what it is sometimes and I just
kind of appreciate it saying that we're just

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gonna be dumb and have fun and
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I didn't hate the first one,
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that I needed to see all of
the other DC films. I think I've

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still only seen like three of the
DCE movies. Yeah, I saw that,

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the second, the second Suicide Squad, and then, oh god,

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the one. I can't even remember
what the third one was. So yeah,

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that's it, just those three weird
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But yeah, and Alcamant is kind
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been I guess, if nothing else
interesting, it's it was a very interesting

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ten years. Uh So, iron
Claw, how'd you feel about this one?

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I liked it. I think I
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gonna like get to me like more
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little I guess I don't want to
see I was disappointed because I really enjoyed

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it. And I have to give
a movie credit that, when it's so

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depressing, they just cut out an
entire brother because they just don't want to

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hammer it home anymore. I kind
of appreciate it for that. But yeah,

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I thought it was good. I
thought it was really good. I

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think I went in thinking it would
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when it didn't, I think I
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But what did you think? This
is weird? I walked away from

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it thinking it was about a four
and a half star film, like really

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felt high on it, But then
thinking about it over the next couple of

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days, I think I've lowered that
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the only reason I felt so hot
on it in that moment. And this

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isn't really a spoiler. I kind
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wind out of a slight part of
the emotional parts. But zac Efron has

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a line near the end of the
film that says I used to be a

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brother, and that line gutted me
in the moment, like immediate tears.

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That was the only thing that got
to me. But thinking about it since

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then, like the script was a
mess. The fact that you erased an

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entire brother is really weird. Like
his reasoning for it is because he doesn't

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want to just do the same thing
over and over again. But that's that's

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kind of the problem with the von
Erik curse like that they're going through these

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things over and over again, are
racing. It takes away some of the

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power of that, and it's I
can't take anything away from any of the

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performances. Efron put in the best
performance he ever has, more a tyranny,

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was like a revelation in this.
I've never seen her actor ass off

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like that. The Fritz I never
remember. I think his last name is

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mcclannin. The Gentleman that played Fritz
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He was incredible in this, super
compelling probably actor too. I had

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to get some appreciation because he's he's
I've been a fan of his for a

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long time and I'm glad to see
him getting bigger roles. Yeah, but

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yeah, really the part that kind
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hate and I'm trying to do this
without spoiling there is I guess i'll call

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it a fantasy sequence near the end, like that's not from e f Ron's

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point of view near the end,
and I'm like, this is kind of

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an unusual scene. Felt a little
weird to me too. Yeah, I

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was like, because I feel like
we got the point, Like I felt

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like I don't know. It's one
of those things where I think there's so

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much good in this movie, and
I'd be really interested to see what else

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the director does, because I think
he has a lot of talent. He

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did a lot of That's a tough
story to adapt, and I think he

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did a solid job doing it,
and it looked beautiful. I gotta admit

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this is one of those things where
you could have really phoned in a lot

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of the wrestling stuff and still told
a really compelling, like dramatic, endeavor

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type of story. He actually nailed
a lot of the other wrestling stuff that

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could have just been bad. And
it's really like Rick Flair is in this

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and they gave the right attention to
Rick Flair. They did him right,

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They covered everything appropriately. Loved that
Ronnie shouting out more tyranny and everything she's

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in. I don't need to look
that up to see if I've seen that.

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That title sounds very familiar. Let's
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on this one. Without spoiling anything, I will say, and I took

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that scene as his interpretation or wish
that he was making. I thought about

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that, and I don't disagree with
that. Is probably the intention. It

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just I think where the film had
stayed so grounded, it kind of just

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took me out of it for a
second, right, Like I'm not sure

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if there's a right or wrong way
that would have fixed that for me,

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but it just like, I don't
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weird to me because at first I
was like, is this like some kind

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of weird flashback for a second,
and then it was like, oh no,

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this is something else. So it
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moments for me. Yeah, and
then we got a couple of people,

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one saying there's only so much to
put in a two hour film and then

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unless you add another forty five minutes
to an hour footage, which I agree,

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but also it's it's a two hour, twenty minute film. They put

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a lot into there. I also
feel like this story is so complex,

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this probably should have been like a
six hour HBO mini series which they cut

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out the fake brother right, Like, I know there was a guy what

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was his name, Lance? Yeah, the I think they show him,

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but they don't mention him. They
show him in one quot of good stuff

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got cut if I remember correctly.
Because it's just it's interesting, but it's

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not important to anything really going on. Yeah, thanks for the uh thanks

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for the translation there. Eric,
I was like, everything she's in sounds

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familiar, but no, you're saying
literally everything that she's been in. I

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uh, yeah, I don't know. Cutting out the entire brother is weird,

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and the fact that he had the
same fate as one of the other

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brothers shouldn't take away from the power
of that. I don't know. It's

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still a great film, and I
really hope everybody watches it. Yeah,

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I think the only part makes it
cut harder is because I mean, I

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don't know if there's a we I
can't remember if he had a note or

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not, but I mean he was
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or he felt overshadowed. So to
have him cut out of a film,

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to be literally overshadowed as a I
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at all. I think it's just
like, how do I adapt the story?

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I mean, we're gonna talk about
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life is even more complex than a
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know, you feel like that you
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real people. So it's a tough
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yeah, I mean the fact that
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they get to see this like the
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but also leaving stuff out feels weird. I don't know, it's a

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it's a weird line to walk.
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mean, you know, people's lives
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go back to, is like people's
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it's you know, it's it's an
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if you've seen Napoleon this year.
It's a movie I liked, but it's

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like there's some it's an easy mistake
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they were born, some stuff happened, they died the end, and it's

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just like, okay, all right, Probably time to talk about a couple

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of pickups. Like I said,
I got a couple of stuff from some

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patrons to highlight. Is there anything
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or are we passing since the vacation. Well, I'm still waiting. I

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know, me and you talked about
this earlier and I appreciate you letting me

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know. I'm still waiting on my
severing stuff. Like I spent about two

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hundred dollars on that sale, so
I've been like waiting for the four to

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go in the paying for to finish
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just been a little stuff. Most
of the been getting into gaming. So

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I've just been picking up PS three
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just have to get back into a
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Which one are you focusing on right
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one? This week? Oh?
Man, I got back into playing GTA

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four. I guess the announcement made
me nostalgic because I've never been a huge

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fan of five. Yeah, sounds
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two, which is still awesome. That's

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that was, And I was divisive
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If the moment I die, I
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about my life. I'm really curious
to see how many hours I put onto

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GTA San Andreas, because I lived
in that game. And yeah, and

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there's just that game is awesome.
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was on my I was at my
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my mom's Netflix because I don't have
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they have? You can play GTA
san Andreas on Netflix. Yeah, it's

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on there. I'm like, what
is the that's weird? Interesting? All

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right? So a handful of things. We did a secret Santa on one

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of my Facebook groups I'm in,
and one of them that got me is

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actually a patron of the Channel Trell
show. Matt Shield sent me Silent running

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the Eureka release from the UK.
And then I, I don't remember ever

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seeing this media book, but I
got the Black Friday Media book with Boris

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karla Off and mister Legosi. Of
course, this looks pretty nice and it's

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a wicked Vision media book and uh
just straight up missed it. And then

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Flickering Waves, who's in the chat
tonight, sent me a little package and

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a cool thing. I've got the
wish Master trailer on film. Pretty rad,

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aren't they? Yeah? Yeah,
little promo card for the Holdovers that

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we just talked about. Pretty nice. He sent a poster from the brand

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new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem
with the April O'Neil character on it.

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Loved that, and then some local
music from Tampa, Florida Rec Center and

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the other one is die Alps more
important things. Eager to put those in

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this weekend. And then some old
school blockbuster promos a Planet to Air and

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death Proof in immaculate shape. These
are great. And then there's a little

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download code for another band in Florida
on the back of one of those.

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And then Brian, who's in the
chat as the Wonderment Project, just got

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these today sent me some incredible laser
discs. We've got Starman and you won't

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even have to buy the Columbia set. Now look at that, not at

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all you can see from La who
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And then Assault on precinc thirteen.
I feel like that Assault is hard

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to find just because I just feel
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That's awesome. I'm so stoked on
those. And now I have more

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carpenter to choose from for my eventual
evolution of physical media thing that I'm gonna

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work on. Because I had body
bags and I'm like, this is kind

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of a weird one to put on
display for Carpenter. Yeah, it's only

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like two thirds Carpenter anyway, right, Yeah, all right, So that's

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pickups for the week. Whatever.
Watches about some announcements. Nothing too create

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this week. And it's nice and
short. And I clicked on the wrong

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one to start. I think,
no, that's the right one. Gas

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Oil coming from Keno Larber on Blu
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Hijack Highway. Another one that we
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this is from nineteen fifty five.
I know nothing about this. I have

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a feeling that you're on that same
page. Yeah, I'm actually kind of

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surprised because Keino has been kind of
getting into some weird We're gonna put this

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random movie on four K. I'm
actually surprised. This one's just a Blu

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Ray. Yeah. I'm curious what
the uh what what the scam? And

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all that information on the restoration is
there? Usually they would say something about

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it here. Yeah, this one's
very interesting. I had not heard of

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it. I I was curious about
got the even like the the aka name

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Hijack Highway. I feel like I'd
seen that before maybe, But it's not

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ringing any bills for some reason.
I mean, only two hundred and forty

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five people in letterbox that said they
want that checks out then, and that's

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a very Keyno title to just drop
like that. Next up on our list

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is some MVD rewind titles. We
got Mean Guns coming on Blu Ray on

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April ninth. This is with Iced
Tea and Christopher Lambert. We've gotten an

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audio commentary with Albert Pune on this
new interview with Gary Schmoller, the producer,

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and then a new interview with the
executive producer Paul Rosenblum, new interview

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with the composer Anthony Ripparetti, and
we got the trailer. That's it,

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but just continuing the MVD rewind line
and another Albert Pion that's a big deal.

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I need to get more into MVD. I got the only one I

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have is I got Vampires Kiss.
That is currently the only one I've had.

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Wow, they've got some pretty good
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they're up to gosh, this will
be number like fifty four or five.

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I think, Yeah, it's one
that's been on my list. Like,

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Hey, when I get some and
I get some X some cash, I'll

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get some. But it just I
think they had a sale there in like

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November, right, and I meant
to get and I think I spent it

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all on several stuff. So of
course that's the hard part about November.

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Everybody's on sale, but you kind
of blow it on the first one or

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two sales, especially because like I
don't, I can't remember. You might

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can remind me with seven did the
four Flies on gray velvet? Was that

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just a title for the sale or
did they end up selling it at right?

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I feel like they weren't clear how
they were selling that title, and

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I remember I specifically had to get
that one. I didn't know if they

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were going to do the same thing. Yeah, they weren't super clear on

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it. And the funny thing is
with Severn, you can literally email them

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right now and just ask for a
copy of four Flies and still get it

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from them. It is kind of
weird. And they did say like,

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I think they're planning on doing another
release of it in the future, but

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they don't know how to give it. I think they're trying to make it

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a special standard ediion and that that
sounds weird to say it like that,

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but they think it deserves more like
panache than what they would normally put into

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just a standard no slip release.
I mean it, it was a nice

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release anyway, I don't understand.
I don't get it. Okay, Yeah,

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it's an odd one. I'm not
real sure. Ace is High from

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seventy six coming from Keno soon as
well. This one's got Malcolm McDowell in

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it, and this one with Peter
Firth Christopher Plumber. I believe i'd seen

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this one like when I was super
young, I think, but I don't

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remember it at all. I'd never
seen it. But yeah, that cover

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looks like you're like if I just
saw that covering scores like, yeah,

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Keno will do that one. Yep, exactly. Yeah, this is one

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that it had Keno written on it
from day one. Uh. This one,

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though, is an interesting one.
Keno is releasing Rampage from nineteen eighty

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seven on four K. This is
finally coming the William Friedkin film, starring

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a bunch of really interesting character actors, and it's supposed to be pretty great.

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They also listed a couple comments on
their Facebook page after this. They

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said that it was going to have
both cuts, I believe. But the

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other big thing is Friedkin's bug is
back on the menu. Now that Freedkin

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has passed away, they said we
are going forward with it. So did

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were they able to get anything with
Freakin for this release before he passed.

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They haven't announced anything yet, so
I'm gonna bet that this only went into

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production because he passed. They probably
had the rights and we're gonna push it

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back, and then he passed and
they're like, Okay, now we can

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just get to work. This is
slightly off topic, but I'm just curious

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what you're talking about stuff we watched. Did you watch the k Mutiney Court

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Marshall, the TV movie he did
right before he passed. Not yet.

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I've been dying to see it.
The people in the discord that have seen

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it, most of them seem to
love it. It's so good, Like

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it's very Uh. I don't say
Lamette because I think it's because I always

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think it's lem May, but I
think it's not pronounced that way. Yeah,

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yeah, it feels so him because
of how well they do with just

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sticking in the courtroom. I think
the old one that they made before they

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would flash back to what had happened. Yeah, this one's just so much

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better because they have the confidence to
just stay in this courtroom the whole time.

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It's it's really worth watching if you
get a damn it all right,

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all right, I will check it
out. Uh. Simnars posted a gumut

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that I could go back to.
Imagine if there was a standard release of

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Fort Flies and it came in a
big hard box with the book, there'd

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be blood in the streets. Yeah, they'd be hilarious. It's yeah,

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I could. But you know what, I can believe it to be true.

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Uh, Siminar says, I can
see Keno putting out Jaden rules of

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Engagement and Simo mannibals asking, that's
a TV movie. That's Lance Reddick's last

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film. Yeah, yeah, I
mean it's it's sad that you know he

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lost Freakin and Reddick in the same
movie. It's yep, yeah, it's

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but it's it's a very It's we'll
talk about TV movies here once we get

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to the Oh, yes, we
wanted to talk about But you know there

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are good ones, they're just not
as common anymore. Well, and I

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gotta ask everybody's opinion because I agree
with John here. How do we feel

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about bug being back on the menu
because Freedkin passed? He says it feels

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a little icky. It does feel
It feels a little awkward to me that

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they were like, you know,
Freakin's hard to work with, we're just

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not going to do it, and
then he died and they're like, well,

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actually yeah. I mean the hesitation
for me is just more of what

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could have been if they had just
went ahead and just pushed through it,

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freaking like right. I mean,
it's such an interesting film from him,

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and I don't think it's one he
disowns, and I like, I actually

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think he likes that movie quite but
which I do too. I'm a big

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a fan of bug I would have
liked to have had him work on it,

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just because I think there's there's more
to learn about that film, because

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it's kind of been neglected. Yeah, I'm eager to see it. I'm

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hoping they do right by it and
it looks decent. It just feels a

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little weird. I get it.
I get it. Next up, lots

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of Kenos so far. February twenty
seventh, four K from a little student

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film director named Stanley Stanley Kubrick.
I think Phil Fear a desire from nineteen

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fifty two coming on four K.
We got a new audio commentary by Eddie

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von Mueller on the seventy minute cut, new commentary by Gary Garani on the

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sixty two minute cut. Then we
also have Flying Padre from nineteen fifty one.

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This is a short film by Kubrick. This is a four K restoration

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from the original thirty five milimeter print, which is so rad that they're doing

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this Day of the Fight from nineteen
fifty one. Another short, another four

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K restoration from that thirty five milimeter
print, The Seafarers from nineteen fifty three.

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Another four K restoration, this one
from the sixteen millimeter ab camera negatives

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and a sixteen millimeter print, and
a couple trailers. But I mean,

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this is this is really cool.
I'm so glad this is coming out like

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this and they're just continuing to give
love to some of these. I have

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Keno's last release of this, and
it's not their main line. I'm trying

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to think that the line is called. It was like an educational one.

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It had like a it had a
different it didn't have a traditional slip it

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had a slide box, right,
But I'd have to go back and see

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what it was. And I don't
think it was their main line though,

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so it's interesting to see them go
back to this and this one. Even

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if you have the old one,
this one has those shorts and that old

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one did not, so that's a
problem. Thanks Scooper caated this movie and

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all those shorts good all on one, one convenient place. So let's just

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saying it's the Library of Congress line. I think that was it, Yeah,

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because they have a bunch of information
on it. I've only watched the

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movie once and that was plenty,
but I'm still probably gonna buy this.

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I just hope we continue to get
the rest of them, Like I think

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I just wrote about this in the
zine actually for what's about to drop tonight

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or tomorrow, Hello to everybody is
waiting on that. Uh, but we

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need we need the newest one from
him. We absolutely need a four K

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00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:14.160
of some some little nicole kidman action
going on. And if they can't give

406
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:17.799
us size wide shut, I don't
know why they couldn't, though, Is

407
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:18.519
that the only one? I'm trying
to think what's missing? Is it?

408
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.680
Barry Lindon and aswad Shut? Are
those the only two missing in four K?

409
00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:29.480
Because Killer's Kiss is getting one or
has gotten one. Passive Glory is

410
00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:33.000
getting one or has gotten one.
Yep. The Killers is getting one.

411
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:38.559
Yep. Barry Linden doesn't have it. The Shining has it, Clockwork Orange

412
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:42.799
has it. Lolita Lolita needs one. That's right. So those are the

413
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:47.880
only three left. I think so
and Lalita would be and they need to

414
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:52.640
do it, but I and it
shouldn't. I know it'll be controversial for

415
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:56.160
people who haven't seen the movie,
but it does definitely need a good release.

416
00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.880
Celestia's I think Criterion have Barry Linden
and Eyes Wide Shut. I mean,

417
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.000
I wouldn't be surprised if they still
had Barry Linden. Ice Wide Shut

418
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.160
definitely needs to get released, though. Did they do a DVD release of

419
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.119
that or a laser disc or do
they just have it and just sitting on

420
00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.519
it. I think they just have
it now and they're probably waiting on four

421
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:22.200
K restoration stuff to be done next
up. Uh. I don't I think

422
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.160
we mentioned this last week, but
my interview with Alexander Helen Nicholas has been

423
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:29.920
making some rounds. This is the
one that's gotten the most views for quite

424
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:30.519
some time. So if you haven't
watched it, give it a watch.

425
00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:33.720
It's a fun one. I'm making
my I think I told you a while

426
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:37.279
ago, I'm making through all of
yours because I've got so behind. Yeah,

427
00:30:37.480 --> 00:30:41.720
it'll it'll come. It'll probably be
like January February by the time I

428
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:42.920
get throw them all. But yeah, we trade off on that. I

429
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:48.480
think I'm still I think eve in
like August for you guys. Oh yeah.

430
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:51.720
Then by the time you know,
we actually do some type of switch,

431
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.200
it'll be like, ah, that
was It'll be next year. You'll

432
00:30:53.200 --> 00:31:00.200
be switching back already you if it
didn't work next from key, I know.

433
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:06.440
February twenty seventh is the seventeenth entry
in the film Noir The Dark Side

434
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:11.200
of Cinema. However, this one
is slightly different because it's basically an Edward

435
00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.799
G. Robinson set. This has
Vice Squad, Black Tuesday, and Nightmare.

436
00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.319
I know that many, many people
love Black Tuesday, and that's the

437
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.319
one that they're going in for.
This is a pretty big deal for people

438
00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:29.000
that love Robinson, and I hope
people love this. I'm wondering, have

439
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.759
you kept up with all these or
e've has anybody that kept up with all

440
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.640
of these? No I pulled the
cord a long time ago. On these.

441
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.839
The fact that they have literally said
around I think it was like number

442
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.240
fourteen, they said, yeah,
we could still do like another twelve of

443
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:47.799
these. I was like, whoa, whoa, pump the brakes. And

444
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:52.799
then because what they picked it up
right when there was like Columbia Noir and

445
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.279
I think Fox had a noir set. Yeah, it's like, Oh,

446
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.000
Adam from the podcast I know is
incredibly happy with all of that, but

447
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:06.039
I bet I'm not enough intoir to
do that. Yeah, the and even

448
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.039
for Adam, especially because Indicators got
most of those noir stuff coming out,

449
00:32:09.039 --> 00:32:14.000
They've got the Universal Noir. We
didn't mention that. There's there's so dang

450
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:17.559
many is it? Radiance doing one
too. They're doing one called World Noir.

451
00:32:17.640 --> 00:32:22.680
That's actually I think it is shipping
right now. It's the final release

452
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:25.359
of twenty twenty three for them,
and it's it's got to be. It's

453
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.119
got to be a good set because
people are already like giving it rave reviews.

454
00:32:31.599 --> 00:32:36.640
I need to get into Radiance,
but I don't want to. They're

455
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:38.920
they're remarkable. Uh, they must
sell well if they keep pumping them out.

456
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:43.599
To be honest, I just don't
know to who that's a great questions

457
00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:45.799
list. I guess it's the same
thing like if they started coming out with

458
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:50.079
like slasher box sets. You know
there's that those people who were just into

459
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.039
it and are will dedicatedly get every
one of them. I would be one

460
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:58.200
of those people, but I don't
know their fans that it slash fans.

461
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.160
Well. The hard thing was slashers
and noirs alike is that there are so

462
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.319
many films that you could technically make
an argument that they're a slasher in noir,

463
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.359
but they're really not at the heart
of the stories. Especially Noir.

464
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:13.240
It was basically, oh, there's
some crime and it's in black and white.

465
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.839
That's a noir film, and then
you know there's it's funny when actually

466
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:21.480
noir and slasher kind of like meet. Probably one of the most interest was

467
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.480
like The Leopard Man, which is
kind of both and it's neither. I

468
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:29.359
love The Leopard Man a lot,
but it's a strange little movie because it's

469
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:34.039
kind of in that transition period.
Gotta love that weird, awkward period.

470
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:37.240
Next one from Keno, which they
were the only one putting out announcements for

471
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:42.200
a few days during the holidays.
The Cruel See from nineteen fifty three.

472
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.720
This is nowhere near my radar at
all. This is the type of film

473
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:51.079
that I just definitely would probably not
even watch. Charles's friend is the director

474
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.000
on this one, and I know
literally nothing about it. I'm like,

475
00:33:55.119 --> 00:34:00.680
look kind it up because I've definitely
never heard of that. Dustin says,

476
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.640
I've collected all those film noir box
sets. Love them, even if they

477
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.160
play fast and loose with the term. Yeah they do. Celeste says the

478
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.559
Leopard Man rules sot in thirty five
millimeter in October. That's red. It

479
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:14.159
must be so nice that all of
you guys live near like third. I

480
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.480
hear all of you guys talk about
saying something in thirty five. I'm like,

481
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:22.960
I'd have to travel like four hours. It's a fine a theater that

482
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:29.679
even has a physical projector anymore.
What's funny is I think Celeste lives relatively

483
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:34.440
near to you? Really? Okay, maybe I'm looking at the right place,

484
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:38.679
like within a few hours obviously,
Uh, what's going on dead sea

485
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:43.719
life? Uh? Will is going
to drop in and spout out about cruel

486
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:49.199
sy Will is probably not able to
watch tonight, sadly, Uh, Celest,

487
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.480
it was my first experience with thirty
five. I actually traveled five hours

488
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:57.039
for the festival. Damn nice.
Wow, Yeah, that beats my record.

489
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.800
I think the Furthest I drove for
a specific movie is three And what

490
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:08.559
movie was that? I saw it
at Alamo. They it may be they

491
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:13.880
cloned Tyrone. I think that might
be the Furthest. Interesting. I was

492
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:17.079
waiting to hear that it was the
Titanic Restoration. Thankfully I only had to

493
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:21.400
go like to my regal to see
that one. Nice. Yeah, we

494
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:22.639
were gonna see it in three day
but the three D was busted, so

495
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:25.639
it was like, that makes sense, but hey, I got to see

496
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:31.400
it, son, all right.
Next up is one well, actually,

497
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.679
I think this is my favorite horror
of this year when Evil Lurks is coming

498
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.320
on blue ray in March twenty sixth
from RLJE in association with IFC Films.

499
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:47.159
This is the same director that put
out Wow, totally blanking on the name

500
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.239
of it. Do you remember which
one I'm talking about offhand? Before I

501
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.480
say it? I do not.
I think I don't think I've seen the

502
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:59.440
other movies this directors done. Terrified, that's the name of it. Oh,

503
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:00.159
never mind, then yes, I
have seen it. I have.

504
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:06.519
Terrified is great Yeah, I love
Terrified. Thank you Dallas and Silent Mandible.

505
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.119
Yeah, Terrified is incredible and when
evil lurks may actually be better.

506
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:15.199
Did you see this one this year? I did? What do you think?

507
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:17.199
I thought it was fine, Like
I wanted to love it a lot,

508
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.079
but I just kind of I wasn't
crazy about it. I like the

509
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.000
idea, like it was one of
those movies where I couldn't get invested in

510
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:28.840
the story and then like the gore
would come in and I got reinvested,

511
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:31.400
and then it would just kind of
slowly I'd go out of it again.

512
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.159
Yeah, so I want to rewatch
it because there's a lot of things I

513
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.320
liked, but I just I don't
know if I wasn't in the right frame

514
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.960
of mind or it just wasn't for
me. But I planned to try it

515
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.400
again down the road. Yeah,
it's it's It's a very good first two

516
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.320
acts of the film, and then
the third act definitely pumps the brakes a

517
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:55.039
little bit too much. Uh.
I really like Terrified, but something about

518
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:00.800
the first uh probably about the first
half of this movie, just the whole

519
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:07.800
like folk core aspect of this is
just really fun. I almost feel like

520
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.760
this could do better on a second
viewing, so I'm eager to check it

521
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:16.800
out on Blue when that comes out. For sure. I do probably want

522
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.320
to mention what everybody's reacting to Sibner
about, and I should bring down the

523
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.440
Win Evil Lurks poster just in case
people did not hear about this. Yes,

524
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:29.400
yes, from what I'm hearing,
the four K release of The Abyss

525
00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.159
has been canceled in the UK,
not in the US, but in the

526
00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:37.119
UK, and the reason being is
because of that one scene of animal torture,

527
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:45.679
and they supposedly they basically rejected it, and Disney was willing to comply

528
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.480
and take out that one scene,
and the company that had I think it's

529
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:53.559
light Year Production or something like that, had just done the restoration on it,

530
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:58.599
and they vetoed the option and said, fine, we're just not going

531
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:00.719
to put it out. If you
won't let us put that scene in there,

532
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.400
we're not releasing it in the UK. I've been sitting here like for

533
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.800
like a good since you started talking
about like where is their animal torture?

534
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:09.039
And somebody put the rat. I'm
like, oh, it's about the rat.

535
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.719
It is about the rat. I
was like, okay, it is

536
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:20.320
ridiculous. Something in the abyss light
Storm, that's the that's the company name.

537
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.760
Yeah it's light Storm. Yeah.
This is This is frustrating as hell,

538
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:29.119
especially for people that have been waiting
for so long for this. It's

539
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:32.199
they're probably gonna lose a little bit
of money, but they weren't going to

540
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:36.360
make a ton of money anyway,
so I understand why they're doing it.

541
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.280
But I mean, the only the
best silver line in is four K is

542
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:44.840
region free, so most the import
cost will suck. But I mean,

543
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.840
at least it's not closed out right, as long as we don't get it

544
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.000
closed out here too. Oh man, let's not let's not speak that and

545
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:59.840
do existence all right. Going to
the next one, Infiltration. Uh.

546
00:39:00.199 --> 00:39:05.159
The January thirtieth release of Infiltration is
coming from welgo. This is a twenty

547
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.480
twenty two film, and this is
a Russian film. This is gonna have

548
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:13.760
the original Russian audio track with English
subs and an English dub track in this

549
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.880
which kind of cool for wellgo to
put both of those on there. Never

550
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:21.440
heard of this movie, Not sure
how good it is, but there's a

551
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:22.920
trailer if you want to take a
look. Some of the action looked okay,

552
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:29.119
a Russian war movie during this time
might be an interesting watch. Yeah,

553
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.159
I did go with it. I
wasn't gonna bring it up, but

554
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:37.360
yeah, very very curious time to
release a war film from Russia. Next

555
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.119
up, this is one that we
kind of had talked about recently, so

556
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:49.199
yes, let's bring this up again. Film Movement announced that they are releasing

557
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:53.639
a Lee Changdong box set in summer
of twenty twenty four. And this is

558
00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:59.079
a big deal because it was just
announced as coming out in Australia. But

559
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.679
this one one is going to be
a little bit different because this is going

560
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:07.400
to contain the movie Greenfish, So
if you were going to import that release,

561
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:09.639
you may want to grab this one
from Phil Movement instead. They said

562
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:13.960
it'll be out early summer of twenty
twenty four, so you should be able

563
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.639
to see that this year. But
just as a reminder, this is gonna

564
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:22.400
have Greenfish, Peppermint Candy Oasis,
and then also twenty ten's Poetry. Three

565
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.079
out of those four films had a
four K restoration, and then the fourth

566
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:30.079
one, which I believe was Poetry, that one also had a four K

567
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:35.400
restoration technically, but it was a
two K intermediate that was blown up to

568
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:43.079
four K, so not quite a
real four K restoration. Yes, Celeste's

569
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.280
asking you, I heard that Keno
canceled their four K of duck, you

570
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:49.280
sucker, but I couldn't find confirmation
anyone know either way. Yes, it

571
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:59.639
is canceled. They also canceled one
of the one of the the other four

572
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.280
K from Bronze, and I think, oh it's Charlie Verick is also getting

573
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:07.440
canceled as well, and I don't
remember exactly why, but yes, both

574
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:13.280
of those are getting canceled from Keno. So we have in four K or

575
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:21.280
just the uh, the trilogy trilogy
at the moment, at least uh.

576
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:22.840
I want to be selfish and say
I don't put out once upon a time

577
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:30.239
in America because I have value with
what I have. Yeah, it's it's

578
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:36.719
worth quite a bit right now.
Let's see one one fish, due fish,

579
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:40.239
green fish, bluefish. Where was
that posted? Couldn't find on their

580
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:45.400
socials. I believe it was on
the blu ray dot com forum, celest

581
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.360
unfortunately, and Keno. If nobody
is going on the blu ray dot com

582
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:55.800
form, Keno is very active on
there. They can get a little what's

583
00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:59.599
a nice word to put it,
snarky. Yeah, they get a little

584
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.159
snarky on there. It's actually kind
of fun. Yeah, they did say

585
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.039
Charlie Varrick was a legal issue.
That's right, Anthony. I just remembered

586
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:12.800
that next up is The Holdovers.
We got some more details on this.

587
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:16.280
This is coming very soon, so
soon, in fact, next week January

588
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.920
second on Blu Ray from Universal,
and this is gonna have an alternate ending,

589
00:42:20.960 --> 00:42:23.960
which I'm very curious to check out
some deleted scenes and introduction by the

590
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:30.400
director and the cast of The Holdover
sit down and they are discussing getting into

591
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:34.840
the minds of their characters. You
meet the boys of Barton, the school

592
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.920
that they were attending, and learn
more about Alexander Paen's casting process. And

593
00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:42.360
I gotta admit, the cast in
this movie is incredible, so I'm very

594
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.360
curious to see what he thinks on
that. Can I just note that it's

595
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:51.920
really annoying. Is Universal putting this
out, yes, sir, which means

596
00:42:52.119 --> 00:42:54.280
they put on there. Yep,
it looks so terrible. I wish that's

597
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:59.920
not this are not collectors addition,
I mean there's features. The hard part

598
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:02.280
is it's Universal, so there's a
chance that will come out in four K

599
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:07.719
in six months. Yeah, of
course, especially if it wins an Oscar

600
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:12.760
and it'll definitely win at least one. I'm sure trying to think we put

601
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.519
up Parasite because Parasite had that same
run where it was Blu Ray won awards

602
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:22.639
Criterion and then four K. Was
that the order? I think the four

603
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.599
K may have come out before Criterion. Maybe it was. It was one

604
00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:29.719
of the I feel like the four
K and the Criteria were pretty close together.

605
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.159
Yeah, they were very close together. And the hard part the four

606
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.360
K Parasite doesn't look that great.
It's about the same as the Blu Ray.

607
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.760
Ye the Criterion one, just because
I didn't known it yet. Yeah,

608
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.719
it's it's nothing to write home about
for that four K. U Next

609
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:52.320
up, e oh god, March
fifth, we are getting a Walmart exclusive

610
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:58.039
Blu Ray steel book of Kickboxer from
nineteen eighty nine. And man if I

611
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.920
did not get many, many many
comments on the art on this today.

612
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.199
Are you a are you a Jean
Claude Van dam Stan? I wouldn't say

613
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:10.039
Stan. I like I like some
Uh that is not encouraging me to buy

614
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:17.760
the steel book that doesn't look like
Jean Claude Van Dam Interstellar. Do you

615
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:22.519
remember the Interstellar steel book from Best
Buy where it did not look like Matthew

616
00:44:22.599 --> 00:44:28.159
McConaughey. Yeah at all. Yeah. Now here's the thing. I like

617
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:32.440
the style. It's a decent art
style. I just wish it looked like

618
00:44:32.800 --> 00:44:38.280
the character's a little better. I
don't also like, why is he this

619
00:44:38.400 --> 00:44:43.400
weird pale blue? And it feels
like it's one of those things where I

620
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.679
hate to sound like cynical, but
it's it's it almost feels like very intern

621
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:54.199
color theory thing like Taylor Orange,
Taling orangee uh, Michael Smith, I

622
00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:00.760
don't know a single movie is Jean
Claude van Dam. I don't the fourth

623
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.440
Universal Soldiers movie. That movie is
awesome. I'd never seen another Universal Soldiers

624
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:08.360
movie, but I could say that
one's good. Yeah, this is this

625
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.320
is odd and it's coming from lions
Gate. There was a rumor, I

626
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.599
believe Felcher kind of started the rumor
that the Vestron was maybe going to put

627
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:20.760
this out. It is coming from
lions Gate and there's no Vestron symbol on

628
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:23.320
the spine, which in a moment, we're going to talk about another steel

629
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.199
Book, and we'll see that there's
a Vesturan symbol on the spine, So

630
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:32.760
this is a it's a little rougher
lions Gate from there. Yeah, yeah,

631
00:45:34.000 --> 00:45:37.119
like I I don't know, it's
it's I don't It'd be interesting to

632
00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.199
see how this whole wall, because
I guess Walmart's getting all the best Bays

633
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.800
stuff now in twenty twenty four,
they're getting a lot of it. And

634
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:47.960
here's the thing. And I again, uh, not to hype the zine

635
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.239
up too much, but I do
mention this in this month's zene as it's

636
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:55.360
coming out right now. From what
I've been told by somebody recently, it

637
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:00.800
is not a given that Walmart is
getting every inclusive steel book, but it's

638
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:07.000
literally unless there's a pre written contract
from a company like Lionsgate. They definitely

639
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:10.599
had one, and Disney had one
previously with Blu Ray. But on literally

640
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:16.159
an individual title basis, companies have
to negotiate a steel book or not.

641
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.519
And that's why something like The Creator
got a steel book in the UK but

642
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:24.199
not the US. Nobody wanted to
pay for the rights for the exclusive for

643
00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.960
the Creator because they didn't think it
would sell, so we just plane did

644
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:30.840
not get the steel book in the
US. And I'm guessing it's not looking

645
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:35.000
greg because I mean, I know
a lot of this is down to focused

646
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:37.320
testing and saying, well sci fi, it's not steel books aren't selling great,

647
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:39.840
so because we just have a bunch
of them, stuck it best Buy,

648
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.920
so the creator didn't make enough money
to do it. Because I mean,

649
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:47.559
what was funny is I think we
talked about Avatar. You said,

650
00:46:47.559 --> 00:46:51.280
I think you said the first Avatar
steel book is kind of hard to find,

651
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.159
but the second one there were hundreds
of them. It felt like,

652
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:57.280
Yeah, I waited months to order
that one, and I got. The

653
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.079
hard part about that one is they
were selling it for forty dollars months and

654
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:04.519
months and it just recently went on
sale and all kinds of people were posting

655
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:09.559
pickups of it. So price is
definitely a big part of that. Let's

656
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.800
talk about some more steel books though
we got well after this, I guess

657
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:20.639
March twelfth, Dcal is releasing the
ISS. This is coming on Blu Ray.

658
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:24.639
This is not even out in theaters
yet. This is released on January

659
00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.719
nineteenth, and it looks pretty great. I'm very curious to see this one.

660
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:34.960
Yeah, it's I don't know,
I like a Paranoi thriller. I'm

661
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:39.119
all into it, same same.
I think we got one more DCAL to

662
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:45.719
discuss first. Yeah, March twelfth. DCAL is also releasing Ferrari. Right

663
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.159
now, it's only listed as a
BLU ray. This will probably only get

664
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.559
a Blu ray, But for Michael
mannfilm, I really hope DCAL improves their

665
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.199
encoding. Even though I hear Ferrari's
not great. Did you get see Ferrari

666
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:02.559
saying it tomorrow perfect timing? Yeah, I hear Penelope Cruz is incredible in

667
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:07.559
this, but everything else is pretty
much a letdown. Did you see that

668
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:12.960
clip with I think they were in
France and a critic was asking about asking

669
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:15.679
Adam Driver why the crashes didn't look
great, and he's like, He's like,

670
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:17.400
what do you have to say about
that? And he's like, I

671
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:22.440
don't know, go fuck yourself.
I don't know. I saw that being

672
00:48:22.440 --> 00:48:24.199
I didn't see the full context of
it. I just saw him saying that

673
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.960
interesting silent Mannibal saying he's heard the
opposite heard it's great. It's that.

674
00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:36.320
I mean. I feel like Black
Hat has a huge following. Yep,

675
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:40.760
I still plan on it's a huge. It's got a very vocal following,

676
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:49.440
So I mean that's true, that's
true. Uh, let's see Celestie's asking,

677
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.079
what do you mean every still book
is negotiated individually? Like I guess

678
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.639
my question is as opposed to what
what in every title or exclusive be negotiated

679
00:48:55.679 --> 00:49:01.000
individually, regardless of the former not
necessarily. One of the examples of that

680
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.840
is Disney. Disney had an exclusive
with best Buy. They had that contract

681
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:12.679
set in place before the whole best
Buy was gone, so they basically dictated

682
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:15.400
what was coming out on Blu Ray
or what was coming out in a stee

683
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:20.360
booker not because they already had that
set up in place, and best Buy

684
00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.679
just put up with it. They
were the exclusive carrier and that was that.

685
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:28.239
But nowadays, I mean, with
multiple companies putting out steel books,

686
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.760
they get to choose who to put
it out or not to put it out,

687
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:35.679
and if nobody wants to bid on
that exclusive rights, it just doesn't

688
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.320
come out. I am curious,
Like I usually i'd be very against something

689
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.840
like best Buy stopped doing it and
then Walmart takes over. But I'm almost

690
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:47.760
wondering if that means there's going to
be more copies spread out because of how

691
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.400
many Walmarts there are compared to Best
Buys, like maybe it'll actually be possible

692
00:49:52.440 --> 00:49:55.679
to get some of these that Like
I went to get Oppenheimer the day it

693
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.239
released and my best Buy just said, yeah, we didn't get it.

694
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:04.320
I'm like, you just didn't,
Okay. Cool. That one is different

695
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:07.159
because all of those sold out on
pre order, so literally no store got

696
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:13.679
them. Literally no store got them, which is insane, Like the demand

697
00:50:13.760 --> 00:50:21.719
is there, it is, the
other part is with Walmart, many Walmart's

698
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:24.840
are not getting any of these exclusive
releases in, so for many people,

699
00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:28.679
if you don't get them in,
your only option is to buy them in

700
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.639
the mail, and then we get
questions like we're getting right now from Julius

701
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:36.000
Thunderhead. I hope that's how you
say it might be. Guillias Steel books

702
00:50:36.039 --> 00:50:37.760
look awesome, but I rarely bother
because it's so hard to get them in

703
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:43.440
good condition, even for pre orders
and new releases. Any tips no order

704
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:47.440
from Best Buy, but sadly you
have to wear from the Best Buy.

705
00:50:47.239 --> 00:50:51.719
I would say, try to find
them in the store so you can inspect

706
00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:55.880
them first, but that's not always
feasible, and it's that's why I get

707
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.800
Oppenheimer I was like, I'm not
gonna order it. I'm gonna go in

708
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:01.320
this store and buy it, and
like I do every other one, and

709
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:06.679
I couldn't do it on that one. I and I get it because some

710
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.960
steel books are really nice that a
lot of times they have better art the

711
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:14.639
the There's been a couple that have
been you know that there's exclusive discs or

712
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.159
something in there. But then if
they're gonna come up banged up to you,

713
00:51:17.280 --> 00:51:22.599
why why would you go through the
process. It's especially when they're hate

714
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:27.519
because of the digital codes make it
so hard because like I got the Rambo

715
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.440
by the box that they had to
steal the box that they had and I

716
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:36.880
didn't notice any damage until I had
opened it up, and they gave me

717
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.719
such a hard time about that.
And it wasn't like I'm not one of

718
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.639
those people if there's a couple of
scuffs that's gonna bother me, right,

719
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.239
this was a huge dent that I
couldn't see until I took the paper off.

720
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.719
Yep. And it's like, no, you can't, we can't accept

721
00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:52.079
it because of the digital I'm like, I haven't used it, just can

722
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.840
I please return it and get a
good one? And the hard part with

723
00:51:55.880 --> 00:52:00.440
that is they'll sometimes they'll say we
can we can exchange it for the same

724
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:02.800
item, but you have to open
it in front of us, which okay,

725
00:52:02.960 --> 00:52:07.119
Like how does that stop anything?
Because anyways, yeah, I'm gladly

726
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.360
do that. They didn't even give
me that option. I'd end up calling

727
00:52:09.920 --> 00:52:14.559
best By customer Service and they had
to do everything on their end, and

728
00:52:14.599 --> 00:52:17.679
then I could go in there and
just pick it up. Yeah, Rubin

729
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:22.920
says, my Walmart usually only has
DVDs. Same there's like seven Blu rays

730
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:27.000
at mine, and most of them
are all brand new films, no steal

731
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.639
books, and then everything else is
DVDs for the craziest things you could possibly

732
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:37.800
imagine, like asylum films, random
copies of the Gate, stuff like that.

733
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.559
The section of just like Indie Horror
is very fascinating. It's just like

734
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.239
they even have like a whole section
for it. There's so much, it's

735
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:53.079
so weird, and they're all on
DVD. Indie Horne DVDs specifically. Next

736
00:52:53.159 --> 00:53:00.639
up March twelfth on Blu Ray from
Relativity Media is free. This is the

737
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:08.280
brand new John Cena and Alison Brie
helmed like Let's have an Adventure Action movie

738
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:14.960
that's coming out. Yeah, this, this to me feels like The Lost

739
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:19.159
City. The trailer looked like The
Las City. Feels like it. It's

740
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:22.239
the same thing. It's such an
odd genre. Can I just say,

741
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:28.000
poor Christian Slater, I want to
see Christian Slater and something big again.

742
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.239
I feel like you could still do
it. Mister Robot was a really good

743
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:32.800
role for him. I was hoping
that would open him up a lot more.

744
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:39.760
Yeah darn all right, So here's
that other steel book I was talking

745
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:45.000
about March fifth on Blu Ray as
a Walmart exclusive steel book from the Vestron

746
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.920
video line. And this is how
we can see that. When you zoom

747
00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:53.119
in, there is a Vestron icon
logo at the bottom of that steel book

748
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:55.960
there, so it looks like Kickboxer
is not going to be a part of

749
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.760
the vestra on line like was rumored
previously. And then this is the outside

750
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:04.480
of the steel book. This is
the inside of the steel book. That

751
00:54:04.519 --> 00:54:07.519
classic art is on the inside.
I don't I don't hate this one.

752
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:12.679
It's actually if they would do it
for all of them, I would be

753
00:54:12.719 --> 00:54:15.760
way more excited because I was like, these would look good together. Yeah,

754
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:20.079
if you're going to collect a restaurant, and they've done too now they

755
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:22.320
a lot of people forget a few
months ago Restauran, I feel like they

756
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:28.360
were testing the waters. But they
put out Maximov Maximum Overdrive in a steel

757
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:30.920
book, right, that's right,
And now we got little Monsters. And

758
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:37.719
then after this we also have Shivers
from David Cronenberg as a Walmart exclusive.

759
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:42.880
We have people going to Walmart for
a release of Shivers from David Cronenberg.

760
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:45.440
That's such a weird sentence to make
in twenty twenty three. Yeah, I

761
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:51.440
think this steel is beautiful. Also
coming from the restauran line on March fifth,

762
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:54.719
and the inside is the classic arts
like that. I mean, this

763
00:54:54.840 --> 00:55:00.119
is pretty, It's nice. Yeah. I I'd be curious to see if

764
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:04.480
they continue doing this, how their
artill involved, because that doesn't seem like

765
00:55:04.480 --> 00:55:07.920
they care as much about uniformity in
the sense that every one of them needs

766
00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.760
to like have something, which I
think is a good thing. I think

767
00:55:10.800 --> 00:55:16.440
them looking unique is better than just
trying to keep the like one basic outline

768
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:22.000
for very different movies. Yep.
Anthony says Kickbox are probably going to be

769
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:28.320
the same old lions Gate Blu Ray
most likely which restaurant that's all they do

770
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.119
now anyway, right, which I
know they're not no a restaurant for that,

771
00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:35.639
but what do you mean like they
I know, wasn't it like restaurant.

772
00:55:35.679 --> 00:55:37.480
They used to be a lot more
expensive because they actually did the restoration

773
00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:42.559
work, and then they got like
dirt cheat because they stopped doing that.

774
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.760
That's what it feels like, because
the quality went down, starting actually with

775
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.119
Little Monsters that we just talked about. That was the first one that was

776
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:52.800
kind of icky looking compared to the
rest. But I've never understood how this

777
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:58.119
was always so expensive for the vestaur
online. They own the rights to the

778
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:01.039
films, they're the studio, don't
have to pay for licensing. I've never

779
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:07.000
understood. Well, it's like that's
why I never owned Maximum overdrives because like

780
00:56:07.400 --> 00:56:09.199
I like that movie, all right, but it's like thirty bucks. I'm

781
00:56:09.559 --> 00:56:13.840
okay. And then the Steel Book
came out and I think it was only

782
00:56:13.880 --> 00:56:19.760
twenty yeah, which is it's crazy
to do to people. Let's see,

783
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:23.960
we had a question, Uh I
missed it, Dustin saying why is Alson

784
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.960
Bree holding a cell phone in that
picture? And I wanted to see what

785
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.960
that was. Okay, that's weird. And what is that is a big

786
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:39.880
cell phone and the explosion is visible
in the cell phone. I love internsk

787
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:45.920
thank you God for that. And
it's what I can't even read that,

788
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:50.639
Uh, the director of Taken,
I don't even know who that is.

789
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:54.880
I they literally don't name him at
all on this poster or in the synopsis.

790
00:56:55.039 --> 00:57:00.159
So yeah, I don't think I've
ever said I'm gonna watch Taken for

791
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.840
the director, So I just can't
even tell you who it is. Terry's

792
00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:07.679
pointing out Shivers was in Walmart when
it was released through restaurant. Yes,

793
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:12.639
all of the restauran has been showing
up in Walmart, thankfully. It's just

794
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:16.559
weird to have everybody go to Walmart
for a Walmart exclusive release of Shivers.

795
00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:22.159
From David Cronenberg, I wish Eric
from MVD rewind did an uncut hybrid cut

796
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:24.719
of Kickboxer the same way he did
Lionheart. I think that's what everybody wanted

797
00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:35.599
for sure. Tick talkers be tick
talking oh Man, embarrassing photoshop. Absolutely.

798
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:38.239
It reminds me, well, this
isn't as bad because it's not a

799
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:43.039
big budget movie. But did you
ever see that poster of a Ready Player

800
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.559
one where the dude's leg is like
ten feet long as he's going up on

801
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:51.519
the ladder, and you're like,
that is a major movie for them to

802
00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:54.280
have that much of a screw up
on the poster design. Yep, it's

803
00:57:54.320 --> 00:58:01.440
impressive. It's yeah, it's pretty
embarrassing. Final regular movie going right,

804
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.719
gonna watch right. Final one for
the week is another steel book, and

805
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:12.199
there is another Walmart steel book.
They are doing Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

806
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.280
Let me zoom in a little so
everybody can see this design. This

807
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.039
is coming soon. We don't have
an actual release date for this yet,

808
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:20.719
but it is a four K steel
book. It will also have the Blu

809
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.440
ray and the digital code. No
details on features or anything yet, of

810
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:27.920
course, because it'll be a while, but you can pre order this now

811
00:58:28.079 --> 00:58:30.559
if you really want to. I
hate to say it, but I think

812
00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.599
this first time I could say the
inside art works better than the outside artwork.

813
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:42.440
It's pretty good compared to that outside. Thunderhead is saying, of course,

814
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:45.920
two of the vestrons I bought now
have much cooler looking steel books coming.

815
00:58:47.239 --> 00:58:52.280
This is a solid question Michael Smith
asking how long before we see a

816
00:58:52.320 --> 00:58:58.159
film written, directed and performed by
Ai it's all gonna come down to as

817
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:04.840
sad as it is in my opinion, it's just actors and writers fighting tooth

818
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:08.760
and nail every time it comes up
to keep it from happening. Because I

819
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:15.440
mean a studio I would love to
try it. I mean absolutely, they're

820
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:21.320
aching to try it to see what
happens. All right, reminder, time

821
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.519
let's go over what is releasing next
week. We have The Holdovers The A

822
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:31.559
Poo Trilogy four K from Criterion,
Forced Vegeance from Scream Shout Studios, The

823
00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:35.719
Facts of Murder. This is one
of the titles that's in that World Noir

824
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.000
box set from Radiance, but this
one's coming out by itself in the US,

825
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:42.280
The marsh King's Daughter. I did
not get to see that one.

826
00:59:42.280 --> 00:59:45.400
Did you see that one? It
looked interesting, but I never got around

827
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:47.039
to it. Now I was another
one that didn't stay in my theater very

828
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.039
long. Yeah, that's what I
certainly wanted to see. I mean,

829
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:57.920
Daisy Ridley and Ben Mendelson are an
interesting pair at least please not now the

830
00:59:57.960 --> 01:00:01.800
Bridge at Bardeaux film coming from Keno
Antic Comedy. That one is coming from

831
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:07.400
MGM. Same with Poppy and then
a hard problem that one is the last,

832
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.320
not a whole lot coming out next
week. It is a very very

833
01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:16.400
slow time for releases, usually around
the holidays. That's the case. Anything

834
01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:23.360
major from there that you're picking up
anytime soon right away, I don't think

835
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:30.679
so. I thought I may get
the holdovers eventually, but honestly, I'll

836
01:00:30.719 --> 01:00:32.360
probably hold out to see if they
do a four K the next year.

837
01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:37.679
I imagine this one probably will get
a four K after award season, and

838
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:44.000
wouldn't be surprised if that even were
overseas first. That seems to be happening

839
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:49.519
with like Turbine recently for a few
titles from Universal, So I imagine it'll

840
01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:53.039
come eventually. Oh and Ronnie says
another dirty dancing? Is that is that

841
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:57.760
there? I don't know what's going
on here because there's no picture. Let

842
01:00:57.760 --> 01:01:02.440
me see what it says just a
Lionsgate Blu Ray DVD. It's probably the

843
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:09.000
four K remaster on a Blu Ray
disc. What that is? Oh well,

844
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:15.920
all right, it is time,
my friend, to uh have everybody

845
01:01:15.320 --> 01:01:21.800
start discussing the one the only Stephen
King. And so this one is so

846
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:25.719
interesting because no matter if you like
love Stephen King's riding or not. If

847
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.159
you are a horror fan, you
have no choice really but to see many

848
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:37.480
Stephen King adaptions. It's so odd
that you you could not even know that

849
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.800
you were, you know, hooked
on Stephen King and yet love this horse

850
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.400
material and you've never read a book
of his in your life. I'm gonna

851
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:49.679
be honest, I've only read a
handful. Uh, and it's been a

852
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:52.360
very long time since I read them. So tonight, while we are discussing

853
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:58.320
these, these are gonna be favorite
of the adaptions. These are not the

854
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.039
best adaptions for what the story said
and what they put on screen, and

855
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:06.000
it's the best way to adapt that
specific story. These are our favorites.

856
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:10.719
And now, why Stephen King?
Why Stephen King a big deal for you,

857
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:15.400
Zack? It's because I'm a stereotype
when it comes to being a horror

858
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:22.960
fan. I started with reading Stephen
King's That's really how I got into reading.

859
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:27.320
I've read probably up to I'm trying
to think what book it would have

860
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.679
been some probably doo McKee. I
had read probably ninety five percent of what

861
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.079
he has written. Wow, since
then, it's closer to probably fifty.

862
01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.800
I'm very behind. And you know, I think Stephen King gets a hard

863
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:42.519
time in his modern writing, but
I do think he still comes up with

864
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:45.039
a lot of great stuff. I
still think he's a very influential writer,

865
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:47.199
and I mean it's just hard to
avoid him. I mean, we'll get

866
01:02:47.199 --> 01:02:52.199
into this list, and I mean
the amount of major genre directors that have

867
01:02:53.239 --> 01:02:58.360
decided to adapt one of his works
is honestly impressive. There were some where

868
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.880
I'm like, oh, they did
two of them there. I didn't realize

869
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:04.199
that this person did this, And
I mean you just you start looking at

870
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:07.559
your like it has been a such
an influence and since the seventies, and

871
01:03:08.480 --> 01:03:10.960
still I mean I don't I don't
think we go a year without some type

872
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:15.440
of Stephen kingan adapt Asian anymore.
Oh, that would be that would be

873
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:20.719
really interesting to look at, like
what is the I'm sure there's been a

874
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.920
handful of years where we didn't get
anything because we only have I think if

875
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:27.679
you count all of the TV stuff
as well, there's like sixty total,

876
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:30.320
and a few of those all came
out in the same year, so I'm

877
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:34.119
sure there's like four or five years
that nothing came out. But man,

878
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.320
that would be really fun to look
at, like how many what's the longest

879
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.320
chain in a row that we got
something every year, yeah, because I

880
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:44.119
mean, and they're just taking these
random stories now, like this year was

881
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:47.840
the Boogeyman and then last year was
mister Harrington's Phone. Yeah, and it's

882
01:03:47.880 --> 01:03:52.960
like now we're just like scraping what's
left. Yeah, and there I mean

883
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.199
even just a few years ago,
the story that everybody had been told for

884
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.400
years, like you can't possibly after
this one film that we're going to talk

885
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:05.079
about at least on my side tonight, And now we got that because somebody

886
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:11.880
that has found himself adapting multiple King
stories has has take it and ran with

887
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:15.039
it, and it's pretty damn good. So I would I would see,

888
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.239
uh, you know what everybody has. I will try to highlight as many

889
01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:21.000
comments as I have, but we're
gonna go through a full top ten.

890
01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:26.840
I actually have four that are pretty
close to my top ten. So after

891
01:04:26.840 --> 01:04:29.599
we get done, I'll name a
few that are close. So why don't

892
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.639
you go ahead start us off?
What is number ten? We'll get to.

893
01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:35.559
I'll wait till we're your point to
get to the honorable mention, So

894
01:04:35.639 --> 01:04:40.320
I will just start us off real
easy. I would actually have liked this

895
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:44.800
one to be higher up just because
of John Carpenter directing it. But it's

896
01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.480
got to be Christaine. Yeah,
we have the same ten did way,

897
01:04:47.519 --> 01:04:50.679
so we could just talk about this, right, Yeah, you read Christaine,

898
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:55.239
by the way, I have not. I've never read nothing like it.

899
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.360
Like if you go in expecting it
to be like, it is nothing

900
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:01.760
like it is when we talk about
bad adaptations in that sense, it's it's

901
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:05.800
not good. But as a movie
it's awesome. Like I don't know,

902
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:11.360
it's just there's something really cool because
in the book it's much more of the

903
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:15.400
ghost of the dude who they bought
it from whose name is escaping me now

904
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.320
sits in the passenger seat and it's
controlling everything, where this one I actually

905
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:23.800
like that. It's just is it
the car or is it Rna doing all

906
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:26.519
these horrible things? And I think
that's just like a really cool way to

907
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.599
go about it. It's much more
simple because I think that's more of a

908
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.400
Carpenter's thing. That's how simple can
we make this story? Right? We

909
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:40.559
don't need ghosts? Uh? Yeah, this one is great, And I

910
01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:44.159
the real big thing I want to
say about this is this one might even

911
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.480
be tainted and biased a little bit
why I love this so much, just

912
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:51.119
because the damn practical effects in this
are so impressive. With the car.

913
01:05:51.679 --> 01:05:58.000
I mean, the fact that we
have Carpenter undenting this mangled ass car and

914
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:02.760
making it look pristine Christ. It
is such There's two or three scenes where

915
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:06.480
it happens, and it's like,
no one even tries to do that in

916
01:06:06.519 --> 01:06:10.800
twenty twenty three, and it just
shows how much better this is. Like

917
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:15.719
the texture of those scenes it makes
me want to just run my fingers over

918
01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:16.800
the car and go, how the
hell did you just do this? Because

919
01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:21.119
this was immaculate, and it comes
from a carpenter who's been very open that

920
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:25.679
he made that movie because they needed
money after the thing failed and he got

921
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:29.800
fired from Firestarter, and it's like
he can do that and not care,

922
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:34.679
you have no excuse exactly. Yeah, he basically like didn't even have that

923
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:39.199
much invested in it and just to
shit it out. And we're like,

924
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:42.039
yeah, this is really great.
I love that. Yeah, And I

925
01:06:42.039 --> 01:06:44.840
mean, you know, it's I
always think it's funny the movie they were,

926
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:46.360
so this is another thing I don't
really see as much today. They

927
01:06:46.360 --> 01:06:50.079
were so scared of that movie being
PG that they said let's just add as

928
01:06:50.159 --> 01:06:54.559
much cursing in it as we can
so we don't get a PG rating.

929
01:06:56.920 --> 01:07:00.199
Yeah, oh, good times with
the Carpenter. All right, number nine,

930
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:04.800
let's jump to yours, the same
ten. All right, number nine,

931
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:09.719
I have let's hope it's different.
I have a silver bullet. It

932
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:15.719
is different. I still have yet
to ever see silver bullet. I silver

933
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:18.159
bullet. I wanted to rewatch it
before we did this list, but I

934
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:21.639
didn't quite get to it because honestly, I was going through, uh I

935
01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:26.079
kind of get a little off tangent
here. I was going through some ones

936
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:29.480
I hadn't seen in a while,
and I was like, I'm gonna rewatch

937
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:31.840
Kujo. I have good memories Kujo
was. I hope it's not one of

938
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:34.440
yours. But Kujo was not good. It's not no, it's not a

939
01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.199
good movie. It's really boring.
I don't need to hear about it.

940
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.360
Like I was so like, when
do we get like, I know this

941
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:42.760
is like a king person, like
this is in the book, and I

942
01:07:42.800 --> 01:07:45.159
remember it being in the book.
But for some reason, I was like,

943
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:46.960
that's what they cut out of the
movie, right, because this is

944
01:07:47.079 --> 01:07:50.119
ninety minutes. I don't want to
spend forty five minutes talking about infidelity.

945
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:55.159
I'd like to see the dog do
something. It was that one and I

946
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:58.119
watched it chapter one, which I'll
be interested to see if that's on there.

947
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.519
I was actually pretty disappointed by that
one, So I was one I

948
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.639
really wanted to get to because I
have such a good nostalgia for it,

949
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:08.840
and I think it holds up because
even like it's probably been fifteen years since

950
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:12.519
I've seen it, and I still
remember like the transformation in the church.

951
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.640
I remember them treating like there's a
scene where they treat like the making of

952
01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:20.640
the bullets, like they're building excaliper
Like. It's almost like this fantasy element

953
01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:27.119
to it that's just really cool.
It's a very it's a very trophy but

954
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:30.520
unique vampire not vampire werewolf story.
So if you haven't seen it any like

955
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:34.479
werewolf stuff, definitely check it out. Yeah, I definitely need to check

956
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:36.399
it out. I've heard a lot
of good things. I feel like I

957
01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:41.920
need to go on like a month
long werewolf kick. It's been years since

958
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.520
I've watched, like properly watched America
were Wolf in London show. My wife

959
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:51.760
has still never seen Dog Soldiers have
you ever seen Late Phases? I don't

960
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:56.159
even recognize that title. I don't
think Late Phases is really good. So

961
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.279
it's about a blind veteran who's sent
into a home and he realizes that these

962
01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:04.439
elderly people who are getting killed in
his community. He starts to figure out

963
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:09.119
himself that it's a werewolf, and
he like preps for like the whole month

964
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.039
to fight up against It's really good. The guy. Do you ever see

965
01:09:13.039 --> 01:09:15.760
steak Lands? Yes? I love
Steakland. The guy the main guy who

966
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.680
played in steak Land. He plays
the veteran. I wish I could think

967
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:23.319
of his name right off, but
he's in light phase. Isn't truly good.

968
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.920
I also still need to see that
Jim Cummings one that just came out

969
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:30.920
a few years ago. So The
Wolf of Snow that's the one. It

970
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:35.159
is excellent. Yeah, so it
would be very fun to have like a

971
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:40.640
month long, month long were wolf. Deep Died maybe soon for me.

972
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.039
Dustin is saying, this is the
first time I've heard negative things said about

973
01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:46.520
Kujo. It's incredible. The domestic
drama of the first half makes the horror

974
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:50.399
of the second half hit all the
harder. While I agree with that it

975
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:54.880
does make it hit harder. I
kind of prefer the Pack came out a

976
01:09:54.880 --> 01:09:58.920
handful of years before Kujo, and
it hit a lot of the same things,

977
01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:01.239
even with like the dow attacking the
car, and I think the Pack

978
01:10:01.399 --> 01:10:06.479
crossed the line a few places that
Kujo was unwilling to. It's I don't

979
01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:13.359
know Kujo is. It meanders a
lot, I think, and I just

980
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:15.159
don't. It's hard to find anyone
like well, like I think Dee Wallace,

981
01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.600
she does such a fantastic job in
that movie, Like no hate to

982
01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:23.319
her, she's awesome in it.
But like I just like, I just

983
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:26.159
keep watching these scenes and I get
it's the point. It's like this the

984
01:10:26.199 --> 01:10:29.239
book I'm not the biggest fan of
the bookie anyway, but it's like all

985
01:10:29.279 --> 01:10:30.399
these people are like, yeah,
I'm sure the dog's fine, and they

986
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.319
just ignore it. And I'm like, these people are awful, Like taketed

987
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:38.319
the dog to the ft Jesus,
like he's just so Like it's just like

988
01:10:38.359 --> 01:10:41.239
I don't know who to root for
in this movie. Besides, the kid

989
01:10:41.239 --> 01:10:45.039
probably shouldn't die. He didn't do
anything right right, Well, this is

990
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:49.079
gonna be funny timing for my number
nine because you just said I'll be interested

991
01:10:49.079 --> 01:10:51.199
to see if it's on the list, and a lot of people are gonna

992
01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:55.680
be upset, probably with what I'm
gonna say about all this, but uh,

993
01:10:55.880 --> 01:11:00.279
it's chapter one and chapter two combined
are my number nine spot. And

994
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:04.520
I gotta say, I've never read
the full book. I have started it

995
01:11:04.560 --> 01:11:08.760
and never got through it. I
understand that it's very different than the movies,

996
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:14.199
but for me this one especially,
and I obviously love the miniseriies it

997
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:18.800
from the late eighties as well.
I truly love the cast in it chapter

998
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:24.600
one and chapter two. I think
that they cast it basically perfectly. All

999
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:29.520
of the kids are great, the
adults are great. I understand that part

1000
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:33.279
two, for a lot of people
are is rather off putting, but I

1001
01:11:33.319 --> 01:11:38.640
really like it. I really like
the restaurant scene at the beginning. I

1002
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:45.359
like the way that they sorry,
I've never sneezed online before, buss you,

1003
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.640
thank you. I really like the
way that they attacked a lot of

1004
01:11:49.720 --> 01:11:56.159
the actual mythology that I feel like
the mini series was sort of lacking a

1005
01:11:56.159 --> 01:12:01.079
little bit when it got to the
adult side. I yes, and that's

1006
01:12:01.399 --> 01:12:05.479
what Simner just said, is what
I hear a lot without splicing them together

1007
01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:09.439
to loses all of the nostalgia of
the first half. I get that,

1008
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.880
but I didn't want nostalgia in that
second half. I wanted it to feel

1009
01:12:13.880 --> 01:12:16.880
like a modern take. I really
like the mini series and both of them

1010
01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:19.600
together. I just think it's a
really fun story. I think they did

1011
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:24.439
a pretty damn good job of it. I won't say it's my favorite,

1012
01:12:24.520 --> 01:12:28.600
but when it comes to all of
the adaptions that we've got, it's number

1013
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.920
nine for me. I'm into it. Yeah, I was there. I

1014
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:34.720
remember going to see it in theaters. It was hyped. I mean,

1015
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:42.439
I'm sure you remember how hyped Ver
One was. It made an ungodly amount

1016
01:12:42.479 --> 01:12:45.159
of money for what it was like. It's honestly impressive to go back and

1017
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:49.960
look at it making like seven hundred
million dollars on an R rated movie about

1018
01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:53.760
you know that didn't get that much
of a budget, honestly, and it

1019
01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.039
was made by a director. It
only made a couple of things. I

1020
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.880
think, going back to it years
later, the only issue, the biggest

1021
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.159
issue I really had with it,
and I think this was probably brought up

1022
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.039
in when it came out, is
the movie is really, really good at

1023
01:13:08.039 --> 01:13:13.479
this background horror stuff, like you
know, the librarian staring at Ben as

1024
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:15.960
like he's reading the pages and you
just if you don't notice it, you

1025
01:13:16.039 --> 01:13:19.319
don't notice it, but it's there
and it's really cool. But then it's

1026
01:13:19.439 --> 01:13:26.000
kind of underdone to me when it's
just like shaking, going running towards the

1027
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:30.439
camera, like it's like it's that
it's just one of those things where it

1028
01:13:30.439 --> 01:13:32.760
just kind of doesn't take me out
of it. It gets the scare it

1029
01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:36.000
needs to, but then I just
feel like it's gone, like all that

1030
01:13:36.039 --> 01:13:39.840
build up is just gone for me
a little bit. I am interested in

1031
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:44.319
going back to chapter two because I've
read so many people who have this interesting

1032
01:13:44.359 --> 01:13:46.880
thing where they actually like chapter two
a lot better and they didn't like chapter

1033
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:49.680
one. So I'm like, I'm
kind of interested in going back because even

1034
01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:55.840
in the book, you kind of
it's the issue of I'm really interested to

1035
01:13:55.840 --> 01:13:59.520
see what's going on with the kids, because it's just more tense like when

1036
01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:03.000
you're reading what's going on with the
kids and stuff. But yeah, you

1037
01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:05.199
should read the book if you ever
get a chance, like listen or not.

1038
01:14:05.319 --> 01:14:09.640
There's a couple good audiobooks of that
one I'd really recommend it if you're

1039
01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:14.680
an audiobook person. I need to, I really do. I won't say

1040
01:14:14.680 --> 01:14:18.960
that I will, but I need
to. I know that. Go ahead.

1041
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.960
I was gonna say. The only
thing I would say is, if

1042
01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:25.760
you don't read anything else by King
and this movie definitely won't be on either

1043
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:28.920
of our list, that'd be completely
shocked. Definitely go through the Dark Tower

1044
01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:31.319
series. I still think it's the
greatest thing he's ever done. I think

1045
01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:35.479
it's some of the greatest fantasy novels
ever written. They're so good, they're

1046
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:42.720
they're excellent. Yeah, lots of
people giving comments on it Chapter two,

1047
01:14:42.760 --> 01:14:48.720
specifically, a couple of defenders,
not many, but a couple. Celeste

1048
01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:55.239
wrapping the Misery audiobook. Nice.
All right, So that is my number

1049
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:58.079
nine, and I'm very curious to
see the rest of your list. Now

1050
01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:00.720
let's go to number eight. What
do you got? I have one that

1051
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.960
is probably, I'm guessing's a hot
take. I've never heard anybody talk about

1052
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:10.600
it except for negative things, but
I have Toby Hooper's The Mangler. We

1053
01:15:10.720 --> 01:15:14.800
have haunted laundromat. That's a really
all I'd say. It's it's completely coke

1054
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:17.920
Field, which is pretty much how
the story was written, and then you

1055
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:24.479
have Toby Hooper taking that coke Field
idea and just going wild with it.

1056
01:15:24.600 --> 01:15:28.479
Like I Hooper is one of those
guys that, to me is just strangely

1057
01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:31.760
underrated, even though it came up
with the Texas Chainsaw massacre, but it

1058
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:35.880
seems like everything after that was just
devisive or he didn't get to do what

1059
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:41.800
he wanted to. The Mangler just
feels so unique and there's nothing else like

1060
01:15:41.840 --> 01:15:44.199
it. I understand why people hate
it. I could see being it's kind

1061
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:46.840
of like I think the way some
people feel about Maximum Overdrive, like it

1062
01:15:46.880 --> 01:15:51.439
feels too coke Field, but I'm
really into it because of that. Yeah,

1063
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:57.279
Maximum Overdrive feels coke Field through the
whole thing. The Mangler feels coke

1064
01:15:57.319 --> 01:16:02.880
Field, primarily like through the writing. Yeah, The Mangler is not on

1065
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:06.560
my actual list tonight, I will
say, uh slight spoilers, it's on

1066
01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:11.600
my honorable mentions because it's it's pretty
damn unique, and based on that alone,

1067
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:14.640
I kind of had to bring it
up because it's it's such a fun

1068
01:16:15.279 --> 01:16:18.479
like I'm gonna throw this on and
go what am I watching? Because this

1069
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:24.079
is so weird type of movie I
love it. The Mangler's great, and

1070
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:26.840
I feel like that's Hooper's career,
like, right, I mean you look

1071
01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.319
at like like Life Force and you
watch it Eating Alive and you're like,

1072
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:35.720
these are just wild movies are watching. Yeah, I I need to rewatch

1073
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.600
Eating Alive. For some reason,
I've only seen it once, and that

1074
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:44.600
one time I watched it, I
think I was put off by the hotel

1075
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:46.159
set or something about it, and
you just rubbed me the wrong way the

1076
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:48.600
entire film because of that, And
now that I know what it is,

1077
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:51.520
I really just need to give it
a watch again. Eating Alive, Right,

1078
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:57.000
Yeah, Yeah, it's sad is
it's it's very dreamlike when you go

1079
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:01.399
back to it now, it's it's
a very fascinating movie. I love Eating

1080
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:05.479
Alive. I wish I could a
better release, all Right, My number

1081
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:11.600
eight is probably higher on many people's
list, but I'm gonna go with stand

1082
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:17.760
by Me. This is probably a
damn near perfect script and obviously has some

1083
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:24.760
of the best tension filled shots in
some of the King adaptations. And it's

1084
01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:30.039
just it's just a good story that's
through and through. Like obviously we're talking

1085
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:34.359
about a writer who writes very well
who's one of the best, who's literally

1086
01:17:34.399 --> 01:17:38.359
one of the most famous authors of
all time, and Stand by Me is

1087
01:17:38.439 --> 01:17:42.760
one that when I put it on, I can look away and look back

1088
01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.039
twenty minutes later and know exactly what's
happening because I've seen it so many times.

1089
01:17:45.439 --> 01:17:49.079
But even if I hadn't, it
is one that I could do that

1090
01:17:49.159 --> 01:17:53.439
because you can kind of feel the
blanks and in the story because it sort

1091
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:58.920
of tells itself. It is such
a like true to life coming of age

1092
01:17:58.920 --> 01:18:01.920
type story for this group of kids
that you can just tell what is going

1093
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:04.880
to happen. And that's not a
knock on it in any way. It's

1094
01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:09.840
more of just, yeah, this
is why we make movies. This is

1095
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:14.800
why we tell stories because they're relatable. And this one, especially for people

1096
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:16.640
that grew up you know, sort
in the middle of nowhere in a in

1097
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:21.119
a very specific time. You could
see yourself living in many different roles in

1098
01:18:21.119 --> 01:18:25.600
this movie. And it's just it's
just fantastic. And what a cast like

1099
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:29.319
cast movie. It's it's another one
of those like when you watch the Guinies

1100
01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:32.359
and you're like, they really did
have like a super solid casting director.

1101
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:38.039
Yeah do this well, Yeah,
that's a couple of these that are they're

1102
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:43.199
kind of like yet Chapter one actually
there cast so perfectly it would be kind

1103
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:46.560
of hard to fail. Uh,
And I will keep that in mind.

1104
01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.399
I did not know that, so
I will definitely look up that release.

1105
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:57.520
All right, your number? What
are we on? Seven? So I

1106
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.520
have another controversial one, but not
because of its inclusion, but where I

1107
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:04.720
included it. So my number seven
is Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, which I'm

1108
01:19:04.760 --> 01:19:09.640
sure will be much higher on yours. I kind of figured there would be

1109
01:19:09.640 --> 01:19:14.359
around the middle. Yeah. Yeah, The Shining is awesome. I've rewatched

1110
01:19:14.359 --> 01:19:17.159
it plenty of times. I've probably
seen it more than I've ever needed to.

1111
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:23.079
It's one of those where I don't
know if it's where I've just watched

1112
01:19:23.079 --> 01:19:26.039
more Kubrick films and it's kind of
like slid for me because I've seen his

1113
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.279
other stuff, or it's just I've
seen it way too many times, but

1114
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:33.319
it's just it's kind of dropped a
little bit for me. While I do

1115
01:19:33.479 --> 01:19:38.600
like Nicholson's performance on its own,
I do understand, like King has been

1116
01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:45.119
very adamant that Nicholson was a bad
casting and I get that, Like I

1117
01:19:45.399 --> 01:19:48.159
really get that that it was not
the best. It works for the film,

1118
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:53.039
and it's hard to separate that sometimes
because I've read The Stand as a

1119
01:19:53.279 --> 01:19:56.520
I mean not Stand, but The
Shining so many times in book for him

1120
01:19:56.560 --> 01:20:00.720
as well, which I highly recommend
even if you're very different read The Shining.

1121
01:20:00.760 --> 01:20:02.159
The Shining is great. It's just
a very different type of horror,

1122
01:20:04.880 --> 01:20:09.239
but it's hard to really shines.
One that's hard to talk about. It's

1123
01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:14.560
everything has been said about it.
Yep, I get it, Summoner says.

1124
01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:16.159
Once you've read the book, you
realize where Kubrick's version really loses the

1125
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.039
heart of the story. That being
said, it's still a very world,

1126
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:23.199
very well made film. Yeah,
I mean it's a It's a movie that's

1127
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:29.640
supposed to be about being an alcoholic
and overcoming that, and Kubrick's version does

1128
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:33.239
not have that at all. It
basically makes King stand in the villain.

1129
01:20:34.039 --> 01:20:40.880
So I can understand why King was
not crazy about it. Yeah, obviously

1130
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:45.279
this is notorious for King hating this
one, especially when he's given so much

1131
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:49.359
praise to some really fucking terrible movies. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

1132
01:20:50.159 --> 01:20:53.760
My number seven is one that I
have a feeling is gonna be higher

1133
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:57.800
on yours. My number seven looms
large over my shoulder tonight, and that

1134
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:01.479
is Carrie. This is this is
the one that started it all for King.

1135
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:05.640
This is a great story. This
is the one that he could spend

1136
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.239
a little bit of time perfecting,
got turned down by quite a few and

1137
01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.399
his wife sort of pushed him to
get the story out there. Obviously that's

1138
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:17.079
this long legend at this point,
but it's an incredible story. But more

1139
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:25.359
importantly, Sissy's basic is legendary in
this film, and Piper Laurie is amazing

1140
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:30.399
in this and the whole story is
just for outcast, for people that are

1141
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.840
cast aside, for people that are
pushed down, for people that are just

1142
01:21:33.880 --> 01:21:42.720
playing bullied. This is an incredible
piece of dark humanity, and in many

1143
01:21:42.720 --> 01:21:46.279
of King's things, when there's such
a supernatural take, and obviously this has

1144
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:50.000
supernatural stuff in it as well,
the dark aspect of humanity, and this

1145
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:57.479
rings true across so many different stages
of life, across different classes, which

1146
01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:03.279
is very rare in the King stuff
across different societies and figures across the entire

1147
01:22:03.279 --> 01:22:09.960
world. Love this movie. It
is damn near incredible. Yeah, not

1148
01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.319
much else I can say about it. It's just it's just not high up

1149
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:15.399
on my list because others are the
favorite. Like this is almost a perfect

1150
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:19.399
movie for me. Yeah, I
want to. I'll be talking a little

1151
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:24.479
bit more about Carrie here soon.
But I do I think what makes this

1152
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:29.439
like so important to King is I
think it's the movie that's you can look

1153
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.119
back on and kind of be happy
that someone like that got the success he

1154
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:36.439
did because of something like this.
Like I think it's kept him feeling very

1155
01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:40.279
down to earth, Like when you
listen to him in interviews and things like

1156
01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:42.640
that, he just seems like kind
of a nice guy. And it's because

1157
01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.720
it's like he earned his success in
a lot of ways and he deserved it,

1158
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.960
and he just seemed like a nice
guy. So having something like Carrie,

1159
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:53.199
and I don't know if a lot
of authors would do that. You

1160
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:55.800
know, they're saying, well,
I'm going to write from the perspective of

1161
01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.079
a seventeen year old girl and basically
the horror of getting her first peer.

1162
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.279
Yeah, like that is a wild
direction to go for your first novel.

1163
01:23:04.520 --> 01:23:10.640
Absolutely, uh Dell on Movie says, I always you carry more as religious

1164
01:23:10.640 --> 01:23:15.399
satire than horror. Any thoughts on
that. I think it could be both.

1165
01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:18.119
I mean, I I this is
one of these things where I fry

1166
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:23.000
my artists to separate like King from
his work because I mean, this is,

1167
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:28.840
this is the Palmer, this is
I'm trying to figure out how what's

1168
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:30.960
the best way to think about it
when you think about like the Palma,

1169
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:32.960
I could see him really discussing them
more now we're talking about the novel.

1170
01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:38.479
I think King has struggled a lot
with talking about religion, like that's such

1171
01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:42.359
a main theme in his in his
books is higher power and things like that,

1172
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.119
So it definitely can be especially when
he talks about like maybe organized religion.

1173
01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:51.000
Yeah, yeah, I could see
that. The big thing for me

1174
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:55.319
is, yeah, it is a
religious satire, but it's also terrifying.

1175
01:23:55.680 --> 01:24:00.640
It's a terrifying satire. And that's
with true satire. It doesn't satire doesn't

1176
01:24:00.640 --> 01:24:04.840
necessarily mean comedy. So with that
it is it's a send up of how

1177
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:14.359
fundamental religion can fuck with somebody and
fuck with this family doesn't entirely Yeah,

1178
01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:16.680
and I mean it's I mean,
how especially when you go to school and

1179
01:24:16.720 --> 01:24:20.840
you think back to the people I'm
not gonna say ignored but you know,

1180
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:25.800
the weird kids you didn't really pay
attention to because they were so isolated from

1181
01:24:25.840 --> 01:24:29.800
everyone else. And you're like,
I think that that was what made King

1182
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:33.039
so interesting. Is he kind of
put you in that driver's seat of were

1183
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:36.600
you ever this person? Did you
ever? Were you a little cruel as

1184
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:40.359
a kid? Yep? And you
know, I think that what makes it

1185
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:44.039
like he'll get made fun of for
his bullies because he makes some psychopathic bullies.

1186
01:24:44.279 --> 01:24:46.159
Oh yeah, things feel so much
more true to life, like these

1187
01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:50.760
are just mean kids, mean for
the sake of being mean. Yeah,

1188
01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:55.479
throwing at somebody in the shower and
yeah, yeah, and I mean.

1189
01:24:56.159 --> 01:25:00.560
And that was probably the biggest mistake
they made in the remake with uh,

1190
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:05.159
what's your name? Chloe? Chloe
Grise Moritz. That's it is. I

1191
01:25:05.199 --> 01:25:09.399
feel like they went too hard on
the bullying, which is not a usual

1192
01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.960
thing for King, because like you
look at like Henry Bowers in it that

1193
01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:15.800
it's just a psychopath, like a
complete Like I know you haven't read the

1194
01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:19.239
book yet. If you really want
to say some psychopathic behavior, the book's

1195
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:25.720
even worse. Yeah, yeah,
it's it's and his friends too are just

1196
01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:29.119
as bad. So it's like Henry
gets a lot of the thing than it.

1197
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.000
But yeah, I'm guessing you don't
have the remake on your list.

1198
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:36.560
I do not know. I was
gonna keep to one. But even then,

1199
01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:42.439
it's not it doesn't stand up to
the level of everything we've talked about

1200
01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:45.399
tonight. Like, even even if
you bring up something silly like The Mingler,

1201
01:25:45.439 --> 01:25:48.600
which is my like fourteen, I'd
still rather watch that than the It

1202
01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:54.479
Read or the Carrie remake, I
think. Yeah, And it's Julianne Moore

1203
01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:57.720
I think is the standout in the
remake, Like I think she's really good.

1204
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:01.039
Yeah, yeah, I would agree. There there's a couple of pretty

1205
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:04.800
interesting scenes, and I get this
is a weird thing to compliment this day

1206
01:26:04.840 --> 01:26:10.399
and age. But the marketing on
the Carry remake was pretty damn great.

1207
01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.279
They did a lot of really cool
things for that, but I don't know,

1208
01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:17.640
I feel like that movie could have
been better. Yeah, and I

1209
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:20.079
think they marketed it. There are
some things they did bad at the marketing,

1210
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:23.359
Like they made a point that it's
gonna be closer to the novel and

1211
01:26:23.399 --> 01:26:27.479
then it was just a remake of
Palma's film, and it's like, which

1212
01:26:27.479 --> 01:26:30.119
I'm fine with, just market it
that it's a remake of to Palma's film

1213
01:26:30.159 --> 01:26:35.720
and not a readaptation exactly. Dell
says the remake wasn't terrible, but suffered

1214
01:26:35.720 --> 01:26:40.159
from making Julianne Moore's version of the
mom pretty weak and trying to fit everything

1215
01:26:40.159 --> 01:26:46.319
into PG. Thirteen was a huge
problem. Yeah, definitely was. Yeah,

1216
01:26:46.399 --> 01:26:48.560
it had to be right behind my
head. This is the perfect night

1217
01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:53.079
for it, and I think it's
probably about time to switch that out maybe

1218
01:26:53.079 --> 01:26:57.079
after the show. All right,
sir, we are all the way down

1219
01:26:57.199 --> 01:27:00.359
to that was my seven, so
you're six. So I guess I'm gonna

1220
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.760
just go ahead and hit Toby Hooper
again. We're gonna talk about Salem's Lot.

1221
01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:12.479
It's another one where it's just,
you know, you think about like

1222
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.560
what Anne Rice did for vampires.
Salem's Lot kind of changed a lot about

1223
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.199
how we vie vampires today, Like
we think of them a lot in a

1224
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:24.399
modern sense now, but that was
a lot more rare even when Salem's Lot

1225
01:27:24.399 --> 01:27:26.680
book came out. When the mini
series came out, I think it was

1226
01:27:26.680 --> 01:27:30.560
considered a mini series. There's like
three hours when that came out, and

1227
01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.880
it's it's influence. Its influence is
just so cool, especially when we're talking

1228
01:27:33.880 --> 01:27:38.439
a little bit more about something a
bit more feral. You know, it's

1229
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:42.720
it's not a very attractive vampire.
It's not the Dracula we think of,

1230
01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:45.600
So Salem's Lot's just cool, like, especially for a TV movie. I'm

1231
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:51.760
gonna have one more TV movie on
here, but this one is could easily

1232
01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:57.600
be the exception for how great it
is. I have one left as well.

1233
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:03.279
Interesting, Yeah, this is this
is great, but I'm gonna I'm

1234
01:28:03.279 --> 01:28:09.359
gonna keep some thoughts to myself.
Okay. Number six for me is one

1235
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:13.640
that's gotten quite a few mentions in
the chat tonight, and that is misery.

1236
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:18.039
I think this is maybe I'd have
to really look at the list.

1237
01:28:18.039 --> 01:28:20.600
If I was gonna make this argument, I probably should have paid attention earlier.

1238
01:28:20.680 --> 01:28:26.880
But I think Annie Wilks might be
the best villain that Stephen King adaptations

1239
01:28:26.920 --> 01:28:30.600
have. I'm really happy with the
way that this was made. I think

1240
01:28:30.640 --> 01:28:34.079
the acting in this is legendary from
both of our individuals, which obviously with

1241
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:40.800
Kathy Bates and somebody as Mary's con
like, you expect it to be that

1242
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:46.680
perfect and it's so I don't know, it's like heartbreaking to see both sides

1243
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.600
of the story because you get sort
of some of these scenes from both of

1244
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:56.760
their povs, and the one scene
that everybody remembers from this is super painful

1245
01:28:56.760 --> 01:29:00.720
because of your empathies you're watching it, of course, but the countless scenes

1246
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.520
of him trying to escape that room
and just being in so much pain.

1247
01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:09.279
Not to make this extra personal for
me, but I have been somebody that's

1248
01:29:09.279 --> 01:29:13.479
had two foot surgeries. I've been
somebody that's had gout many many times in

1249
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:16.680
my life, and because of my
upbringing, it was misdiagnosed for a decade,

1250
01:29:16.800 --> 01:29:20.319
so it tore up the joints on
my foot, and I had constant

1251
01:29:20.399 --> 01:29:25.119
gout flare ups for years. And
now now that I'm away from that family,

1252
01:29:25.560 --> 01:29:27.800
I've been good for six years,
haven't had a single flare up,

1253
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.800
thank goodness. And because of all
that, like watching misery nowadays is just

1254
01:29:32.680 --> 01:29:38.600
this painful experience of, Oh my
God, Like I have been in the

1255
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:42.640
middle of the night, crawling across
the floor the way he is in massive

1256
01:29:42.680 --> 01:29:45.920
amounts of pain, and I know
exactly what he's going through, and because

1257
01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:48.239
of that, it just sits in
this deep pit of my stomach and I

1258
01:29:49.079 --> 01:29:54.000
adore this film. It's incredibly well
made, but good law, good god,

1259
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.359
does it hurt to watch? And
you know, that's one of those

1260
01:29:57.359 --> 01:30:00.840
ones they changed from the novel that
I think was a good change because I

1261
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:02.920
think it makes me cringe so much
harder because he has this. I don't

1262
01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:06.039
know if it's one or both of
see. I think it's just one cut

1263
01:30:06.079 --> 01:30:10.520
off with an axe, and I
don't know, there's something about watching that.

1264
01:30:12.680 --> 01:30:16.439
It's rough. It's rough to watch
the mallet scene. Yeah, it's

1265
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:23.600
pretty bad. It's pretty bad,
all right, moving on to your number

1266
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:29.800
five. For number five, we've
already talked about it, but it's Di

1267
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.680
Palma's carry. I've had a lot
about that one, so I'll keep it

1268
01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:38.560
short. It's just I think somebody
mentioned in the comments. I wish I

1269
01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:40.880
knew who it was, but they
mentioned that it was also an important movie

1270
01:30:40.920 --> 01:30:43.800
for Di Palma, and they're very
much right. I mean, it's kind

1271
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:47.399
of hard to remember that this was
still fairly early in his career and how

1272
01:30:47.439 --> 01:30:51.239
different some of his stuff would be
around this era too, So really cool

1273
01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:54.880
one for him. I think it
would have been interesting to ever see to

1274
01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:59.880
Palma like tackle King again, especially
just you know he did Hitchcock enough,

1275
01:30:59.880 --> 01:31:03.279
you can still a little king too, But yeah, that would be my

1276
01:31:03.359 --> 01:31:08.920
number five. That's a solid pick
and uh yeah mine probably could have been

1277
01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:13.840
higher. Not not gonna argue with
that, of course, video stores pointing

1278
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:18.279
out gotta love the Misery production design
some of the best fully agreed. Let's

1279
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:23.600
see, Misery is flat out brilliant. Phone's about to die from Brendan.

1280
01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.239
But happy New Year, guys,
Same to you, Brendan. Uh,

1281
01:31:27.720 --> 01:31:30.279
it's a miracle. Kathy Bates wasn't
typecast as a villain after Misery, and

1282
01:31:30.319 --> 01:31:34.000
in fact, like she got she
got all kinds of weird rules after Misery,

1283
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:39.399
and I'm here for she's always like
this fun, outlandish hippie or something

1284
01:31:39.439 --> 01:31:43.800
like that. And uh, yeah, she's great and not the only king.

1285
01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:47.560
Maybe she's played on no and she
is, Yeah, she's she's pretty

1286
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:51.720
fantastic. And what she's done.
Uh, my number five is one that

1287
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:55.560
we just talked about. And uh, I'm gonna go through Salem's lot now

1288
01:31:55.600 --> 01:32:01.039
because I have so much I could
say on Toby Hooper. He is he

1289
01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:09.720
is by far the most underrated of
the main masters of Horror, which obviously

1290
01:32:09.800 --> 01:32:12.840
silly title to use. But when
you have these main franchises that have been

1291
01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:16.039
built up for so many years,
and you have somebody that's helmed them for

1292
01:32:16.159 --> 01:32:20.279
multiple instances, and they get built
up into whatever you know, position that

1293
01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:26.840
they're in, they're given some point
of respect. But with Toby, it

1294
01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:30.640
seems like it's still fought for way
more than it needs to be. The

1295
01:32:30.720 --> 01:32:35.560
dude was brilliant. He took risks, he tried things that most people never

1296
01:32:35.600 --> 01:32:41.159
would attempt to try. And with
Salem's Lot specifically, like there are things

1297
01:32:41.159 --> 01:32:46.840
that were shown on regular TV that
are still competitive with being as terrifying as

1298
01:32:46.880 --> 01:32:50.760
some of the images that we get
every year now. And Salem's Lot is

1299
01:32:50.840 --> 01:32:56.319
such a great rewatch. This is
one that you can go back to multiple

1300
01:32:56.319 --> 01:33:00.880
times, catch different things the next
watch through. It's just easily one of

1301
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:04.600
the best Stephen King adaptions. And
without Hooper we wouldn't have got anything like

1302
01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:09.399
this. I think that any other
filmmaker of that time, at you know

1303
01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:14.159
that specifically at that year, making
it for TV. I really think it

1304
01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:17.920
would have been quite a mess if
it was by somebody else. And I

1305
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:24.760
will when people criticize Jump Scares,
Salem Slot is the example I've used of

1306
01:33:24.800 --> 01:33:27.319
how to do it correctly. Yeah, that is still one of the best

1307
01:33:27.439 --> 01:33:30.319
jump scares. It still gets me
when I watch it sometimes it's so well

1308
01:33:30.359 --> 01:33:35.000
done. Yeah, it's pretty damn
great. All right, sir, moving

1309
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:39.439
on to your number four. All
right, Well, I was gonna be

1310
01:33:39.439 --> 01:33:45.159
able to avoid this list without talking
about a Frank Darabant drama about a prison

1311
01:33:45.199 --> 01:33:46.560
that came out in the nineties.
So we're gonna talk about the Green Mile

1312
01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:51.520
because it's way better than Shawshank Redemption. Oh, shaw Shank is fine,

1313
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:57.359
but Green Mile is a movie I'm
gonna go ahead and embarrass myself on live.

1314
01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:00.520
That is the movie that made me
ball my eyes out because I saw

1315
01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:05.039
this movie when I was like six
years old. Like I still distinctly remember

1316
01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:09.159
how bad I cried during this movie. And it's like, you know,

1317
01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:11.960
you think about King and you think
about, you know, how much he

1318
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.800
scared people. He can hit the
drama well like when he needed to,

1319
01:34:15.920 --> 01:34:18.720
and especially because Green Mile doesn't really
have horror, has supernatural elements to it,

1320
01:34:19.199 --> 01:34:24.640
but I mean it's almost to the
point of being emotionally manipulative. But

1321
01:34:24.680 --> 01:34:32.439
I don't think he ever crosses that
line. Yeah, Green Mile is great.

1322
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.920
I'm not gonna take that away.
Of course. I do think nowadays

1323
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:41.760
that I've gone back to rewatch.
This especially came when it came out in

1324
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:45.840
four K God, probably two years
ago, now, something like that.

1325
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:51.840
I something about it just felt like
a little bit more of a slog than

1326
01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:58.199
I remembered it being, and I
remembered loving this movie. I felt like

1327
01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:02.520
they probably could have taken thirty five
minutes out of this movie. I think

1328
01:35:02.560 --> 01:35:06.239
that's a problem with Dare Bond in
general, Like I think he's a very

1329
01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:12.319
beloaded storyteller, because I think I
had the same problem with Shawshank funny enough

1330
01:35:12.479 --> 01:35:17.119
and the mist Shawshank has quite a
bit that probably could have been removed and

1331
01:35:17.159 --> 01:35:20.880
not changed the story, especially when
you're adapting such a short story, like

1332
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:27.159
yeah, there was something to Shashank. It's so so odd. But I

1333
01:35:27.199 --> 01:35:30.039
will say the Green Mile, the
cast is incredible. Obviously, you get

1334
01:35:30.079 --> 01:35:35.279
a legendary performance out of Tom Hanks. Obviously you got a legendary performance from

1335
01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:43.319
the big Man. And I'm yeah, I'm sad, sad that he passed

1336
01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:47.520
so young, But yeah, the
Green Mile better than Shashank. I don't

1337
01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:51.319
know about that. Uh, you
know, you can't tell me that every

1338
01:35:51.359 --> 01:35:54.880
time you see the actor who plays
Percy, you don't get like a little

1339
01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:57.840
raged. Just doesn't matter what party
plays, you're just a little mad.

1340
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:05.880
Yeah yeah, all right. Let
me see what else I can do at

1341
01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:10.840
number four to piss some people off. For many people, I don't think

1342
01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:15.359
this would probably be about this high. I think most people are gonna argue

1343
01:36:15.399 --> 01:36:18.319
with that. But I love anthology
Horse, so I got to talk about

1344
01:36:18.319 --> 01:36:27.000
creep Show. I love this literally, probably one of the top three anthologies

1345
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:33.119
always. I think that this has
some of the best segments that we've got

1346
01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:38.279
out of any anthology out there.
It's got obviously an incredible cast for what

1347
01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:42.560
they put together, the people working
on it together. You can't really you

1348
01:36:42.600 --> 01:36:45.279
can't really argue with the Romero and
a King making something like this and then

1349
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:49.000
the style being taken from easy comics
and coming up with these stories that are

1350
01:36:49.560 --> 01:36:57.439
silly yet also super sadistic in some
parts and genuinely scary, and then Stephen

1351
01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:02.079
King turning into this crazy mind covered
monster. It's it's a wild movie.

1352
01:37:02.119 --> 01:37:06.680
It's got some fun parts, and
it's it's just really really fun. In

1353
01:37:06.840 --> 01:37:11.399
all of his adaptations, this is
one that is actually like, I'm having

1354
01:37:11.399 --> 01:37:15.720
a really fun time watching this,
and it's one that I was very happy

1355
01:37:15.840 --> 01:37:17.920
when I got a four K because
if I had to pick one, that

1356
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.159
movie looks so good, like I
was, it was perfect for four K

1357
01:37:21.239 --> 01:37:26.560
when it finally got a release.
Yeah, yeah, I agree, And

1358
01:37:26.600 --> 01:37:30.600
it looks really good on four K. That's the important part. Man.

1359
01:37:30.680 --> 01:37:32.960
There's a lot of people argument with
my take on Shashank could have some of

1360
01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:36.760
that fat trimmed. The hard thing
was Shashank when we're talking about that for

1361
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:40.920
a second, when you're taking it
from the story, there's nothing to the

1362
01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:46.479
story, so all of what is
in the book is extra comparatively and really

1363
01:37:46.560 --> 01:37:51.039
like that second act is just a
little slow. I mean it's not like

1364
01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:55.039
I need it all to be you
know, fast moving to be interesting.

1365
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:58.920
I love a lot of slow cinema. But shawshank Is is great. I

1366
01:37:58.960 --> 01:38:02.119
love Shawshank I just it does feel
a little overly long. I feel like

1367
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:06.079
we retread a lot of the same
water towards the middle, Like we've talked

1368
01:38:06.079 --> 01:38:11.239
about this, Yeah, just kind
of a different example of it. And

1369
01:38:11.279 --> 01:38:14.159
that's not to say I hate shaw
shank I just I really like Green Mile

1370
01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.880
Shawshank is one where I think I
grew up at the time where what was

1371
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:25.920
it? Was it because of The
Dark Night that everyone hated that The Godfather

1372
01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:28.760
was ahead of it in the top
two fifty, so they made Shawshank the

1373
01:38:28.840 --> 01:38:32.439
number one movie on IMDb or something
insane. So that was during the time

1374
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:34.760
where you had the you know,
I grew when I watched it was the

1375
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:39.960
expectations of this is supposedly one of
the best movies ever made, and I'm

1376
01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:44.039
like, it's pretty good. I
liked it. That was kind of where

1377
01:38:44.439 --> 01:38:48.800
I ended on that one. Yeah, all right, now's where I'm really

1378
01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:51.800
going to piss some people off.
Top three time. What do you got

1379
01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:57.079
at number three? For number three? I have a movie I think is

1380
01:38:57.479 --> 01:39:00.359
way underrated. So I've already done
one of his vampire films. I'm gonna

1381
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:04.279
do the other one, the Night
Flyer, which was a very confusing not

1382
01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:09.119
quite a TV movie. It technically
got a theatrical release, but it was

1383
01:39:09.159 --> 01:39:12.840
made by HBO, So that one
isn't the one I was talking about.

1384
01:39:12.840 --> 01:39:15.760
But have you ever seen it?
I saw years ago and I just I

1385
01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:18.800
say just, but it's been about
a year now. I just brought in

1386
01:39:18.920 --> 01:39:25.319
the you I think it's a UK
DVD set, Yeah, okay, yeah,

1387
01:39:25.399 --> 01:39:27.760
yeah, because we don't have a
I don't think the US has any

1388
01:39:27.760 --> 01:39:30.199
good release of the Nightfall. I
don't think so. No, but it's

1389
01:39:30.279 --> 01:39:35.359
it's probably to me like King is
usually is so good at like a lot

1390
01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:39.199
of his characters at least being likable. They're flawed, but they're likable.

1391
01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:45.119
The main guy, played brilliantly by
Faerrier, is such a dirt bag,

1392
01:39:45.720 --> 01:39:49.720
Like this dude is just flying wherever
this guy shows up so he can get

1393
01:39:49.760 --> 01:39:57.880
like it's night Crawler twenty years before
Nightcrawler came out. He's just an awful

1394
01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:01.239
person. The vampire design is awesome
that they kind of spoil that through every

1395
01:40:01.279 --> 01:40:04.399
bit of marketing for night Flyer,
because I think that shock is just there

1396
01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:11.159
for the first time you see him, just a really I think King always

1397
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:15.560
had like a very interesting I think
he really has three vampire stories, and

1398
01:40:15.600 --> 01:40:20.079
I think they're all very unique and
interesting. Yeah, yeah, he's he's

1399
01:40:20.119 --> 01:40:26.199
got a few. I would almost
love to see him do another take on

1400
01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:30.119
that nowadays. Obviously a lot of
the stuff that he's been doing recently is

1401
01:40:30.560 --> 01:40:35.359
very different from his super popular stuff, but I would like to see like

1402
01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:41.319
a grizzled old man Stephen King take
on the vampire story. I'll talk about

1403
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.439
one in a little bit, but
I do think he has done a modern

1404
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:51.319
vampire take, just far from traditional. Yeah, man, still all kinds

1405
01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:56.920
of stuff for shashing going on in
the comments. So my number three is

1406
01:40:56.960 --> 01:40:59.359
one that you mentioned already, and
I don't think it's gonna be on your

1407
01:40:59.359 --> 01:41:06.079
list. The Mist I'm a big
not really. I was gonna say that

1408
01:41:06.079 --> 01:41:09.479
we're not tour here, but it
would have been weird to apply to the

1409
01:41:09.520 --> 01:41:12.439
two men, and I'm gonna bring
up here. But I'm a big fan

1410
01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:15.279
of Frank Darbant for a lot of
stuff he's done. I think that he

1411
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:23.199
is really great at putting a compelling
magnifying glass on certain things that need to

1412
01:41:23.279 --> 01:41:30.600
be magnified. With The Mist,
we get obviously one of the craziest standings

1413
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:32.920
of all time, and I don't
want to spend a lot of time talking

1414
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.119
about that. What I really want
to talk about is Marcia gay Harden.

1415
01:41:36.920 --> 01:41:44.000
Her character in this film is probably
the best villain in any of these adaptions,

1416
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:54.880
and it's it is so hard to
overstate how evil, how just brash

1417
01:41:54.920 --> 01:42:00.960
and like compellingly fundamental. She comes
across with just a few lines of dialogue

1418
01:42:00.000 --> 01:42:05.319
here and there as this awful,
awful person, and she is she is

1419
01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:11.439
doing things with her body movements,
with the way that she there's a scene

1420
01:42:11.479 --> 01:42:15.680
where she moves I think it's a
can that long before she gets a can

1421
01:42:15.720 --> 01:42:17.840
thrown at her, she moves a
can or something and it's just you look

1422
01:42:17.920 --> 01:42:21.680
like you're like, if I was
writing the story, you'd be like slinking

1423
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:28.720
as you put this up there,
and it's she's got this just taut like

1424
01:42:29.239 --> 01:42:33.199
awkward condescension about her. That the
way that she embraced this character, she

1425
01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:39.439
deserves to be raned through the mangler. I mean, she is an awful

1426
01:42:39.479 --> 01:42:44.039
person and it ruins so much about
this and shows the darkness of humanity and

1427
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.760
really really highlights what a lot of
us witnessed in three and a half years

1428
01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:56.479
or whatever of this pandemic so far, like with this overarching just terrible evil

1429
01:42:56.560 --> 01:43:00.640
at the heart of humanity. When
going through a tragedy, there's so much

1430
01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:03.880
depth to find and she grabs it
by the fucking balls. And she's amazing

1431
01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:09.399
I did with in regards to that, have you seen Midnight mass by the

1432
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:15.079
way I have, and it's my
favorite of the Planning series. Bev is

1433
01:43:15.119 --> 01:43:18.000
the closest to that character I've seen
away from Oh my god, yep,

1434
01:43:19.039 --> 01:43:21.319
credit to that actress. I hated
her by the end of it. Like

1435
01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:26.560
my girlfriend, I was watching follow
the House of Usher. My girlfriend came

1436
01:43:26.600 --> 01:43:32.520
in and saw her and she just
left. Uh. Yeah, she's she's

1437
01:43:32.560 --> 01:43:39.479
incredible. Uh. I do not
have the missed online. I almost did.

1438
01:43:39.560 --> 01:43:41.920
It was in my honorable mentions.
It is. It is a really

1439
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:45.640
good one. It's just not one
I watch frequently, right because it's so

1440
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.159
depressing it right, you get to
that end and it's It's different from the

1441
01:43:48.159 --> 01:43:53.840
short as well. The short is
a lot more ambiguous and not as final

1442
01:43:54.439 --> 01:43:58.199
or heartbreaking. But I think it's
great. I actually think it's significantly stronger

1443
01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:03.159
than the short. Have you seen
the black and white version? I have

1444
01:44:03.399 --> 01:44:09.560
what way back when I've not watched
the version. It helps the effects,

1445
01:44:09.560 --> 01:44:11.640
Like I know a lot of people
criticize the effects. It was a low

1446
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:14.600
budget, but I think it looks
great for what it is. But the

1447
01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:18.439
black and white school, yeah,
it hides it pretty well. All right.

1448
01:44:18.520 --> 01:44:23.000
So what are we in? Final
two? Final? Friend? All

1449
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:24.920
right, Well, we got to
get to a TV movie now, so

1450
01:44:25.119 --> 01:44:29.239
it wouldn't be King without one.
So I'm going to talk about a Storm

1451
01:44:29.239 --> 01:44:33.680
of the century. WHOA Yeah.
I just think that is one of King's

1452
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:36.840
greatest writings and it wasn't even based
on any of his books. I think

1453
01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:44.319
it is just such an excellent series
of isolation and it has all of the

1454
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:46.920
kingisms without feeling overly tied to his
other stuff. It takes place in the

1455
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:53.000
same island as the Lord's Clayburne.
We don't worry about her. Andre Lenoge

1456
01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:55.840
feels a lot like Randall Flag,
but we're not connected to the Dark the

1457
01:44:56.199 --> 01:44:59.960
Dark Tower. It's just has all
of the things that make kings so sat.

1458
01:45:00.399 --> 01:45:04.079
You have the drama of these people
and how far they'll push themselves.

1459
01:45:05.960 --> 01:45:09.600
You know, they're talking about how
they save their children, but it comes

1460
01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:14.560
the decision of whose child can go, essentially, and that's just good drama,

1461
01:45:14.640 --> 01:45:15.800
like when it comes to King.
If you can make good drama out

1462
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:20.079
of it, that's going to heighten
up a lot of the horror elements.

1463
01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:26.000
So I haven't seen this one in
a very very long time, and I

1464
01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:30.319
remember really loving it. But I
just something I didn't feel great putting it

1465
01:45:30.319 --> 01:45:32.359
on the list tonight, so oh, I mean, it was one I

1466
01:45:32.359 --> 01:45:35.239
hadn't seen it since I was a
kid. I was nervous to rewatch it

1467
01:45:35.319 --> 01:45:38.880
when I did it last year because
I was like, this is one of

1468
01:45:38.920 --> 01:45:42.079
those I have really good memories of
as a kid, but I had terrible

1469
01:45:42.119 --> 01:45:43.960
taste. I had well, let
me put this way, I still have

1470
01:45:44.039 --> 01:45:45.960
terrible taste. I had worse taste
as a child, So you know,

1471
01:45:46.119 --> 01:45:48.840
I was like, who knows how
it's going to look now. But I

1472
01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:53.720
was pleasantly surprised because after Midnight Mass, I really wanted to watch it because

1473
01:45:53.880 --> 01:45:58.479
Midnight Mass is basically Storm of the
Century. Interesting, I don't have to

1474
01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:01.239
go back and find it then,
like there's that scene. I don't try

1475
01:46:01.279 --> 01:46:04.159
not spoil them in Midnight Masks,
but whether they're all in the church,

1476
01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:11.520
it is essentially the rock picking in
Storm of the Century, it's you have

1477
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:15.279
somebody get tackled, you have somebody
who's adamantly against all of this, and

1478
01:46:15.319 --> 01:46:18.560
you have this town convincing themselves that
it's okay. It's a You're like,

1479
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:21.000
yeah, Flanning and likes Storm of
the Century, and I'm cool with that

1480
01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:28.520
interesting. Yeah, I Midnight Mass. Something about that hit perfectly. And

1481
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:33.479
I do really think the flanning and
troop of people that he has attached to

1482
01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:39.079
him are just a big part of
that. That cast in Midnight Mass completely

1483
01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:45.079
eats in every single role. Yeah, and I you know, it's it

1484
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:48.880
was fun to see him do usher
and use all those people because he got

1485
01:46:48.920 --> 01:46:53.159
to use them in very awful ways, and that made it a lot more

1486
01:46:53.279 --> 01:46:58.159
entertaining. Yep. Yeah, it's
it's very different. Uh, Okay,

1487
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:03.000
So this is where I see some
other people lighting pitchforks, lighting pitchforks,

1488
01:47:03.119 --> 01:47:09.119
lighting torches, and grabbing pitchforks.
My number two, my number two is

1489
01:47:09.439 --> 01:47:14.720
the Shining, And I have a
feeling many people were gonna think that my

1490
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:17.279
number one was the Shining, and
my number one is gonna make some people

1491
01:47:17.399 --> 01:47:23.520
really pissed off. I think I'll
be real excited to say so. The

1492
01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:30.079
Shining is great, it's surreal,
it's interesting. It is there's a bevy

1493
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:32.319
of things to look at in every
single scene. Obviously it's Kubrick, so

1494
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:41.399
everything has that perfect symmetry, has
the feeling of just grotesque. Every scene

1495
01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:45.319
there's something about it that's just unnerving, and yeah, I know that it's

1496
01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:50.199
not a great take on the novel. However, it is an incredible,

1497
01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:56.600
incredible story about Jack Nicholson's character and
with Jack Torrens like I think I saw

1498
01:47:57.359 --> 01:48:00.000
similar or somebody earlier in the chat
say that with the Shining because it was

1499
01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:03.680
Jack Nicholson, they knew what was
gonna happen by the end of it.

1500
01:48:03.960 --> 01:48:06.840
But the funny thing is when this
came out that was not the case.

1501
01:48:08.239 --> 01:48:14.359
Jack Nicholson played so many off the
wall, crazy, funny characters, just

1502
01:48:14.399 --> 01:48:16.800
straight up dramatic roles. He was
an incredible actor. He was one of

1503
01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:21.720
the best frickin' chameleons of that time. And when he starts in this role,

1504
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:28.479
you see him in this super happy, go lucky mood as he's starting

1505
01:48:28.479 --> 01:48:31.640
this movie out and just completely lose
it. And there's so much about this

1506
01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:38.079
that. I mean, the fact
that we have a documentary about this movie

1507
01:48:38.119 --> 01:48:43.560
that has countless numbers of conspiracy theories
and hot takes and weird things in it

1508
01:48:43.600 --> 01:48:47.279
shows like how deep the lore for
this movie can be. I love it.

1509
01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:53.399
It's an incredible, incredible scene of
bravery for the way that we get

1510
01:48:53.439 --> 01:48:58.720
certain people to perform in this Obviously
we all know that Kubrick didn't have a

1511
01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:01.880
great track record with how he treated
our main actress in this film, but

1512
01:49:02.079 --> 01:49:06.439
our three main people that we spend
time with, they give every scene they're

1513
01:49:06.439 --> 01:49:13.399
all and it's just a beautiful take
on an isolating story that makes you go

1514
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:17.560
crazy. I love this movie.
It's incredible, and every single rewatch there's

1515
01:49:17.600 --> 01:49:23.720
always something great to really go oh
shit, I've never noticed that angle or

1516
01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:28.079
this piece of production design in the
background. It's just so intriguing, Like

1517
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.199
how do you choose that? This
is one of those best like film school

1518
01:49:31.239 --> 01:49:38.159
movies to really see how every single
thing is a choice. And I think

1519
01:49:38.239 --> 01:49:43.000
there is that sense of ambiguity because
of that. Like I mean, if

1520
01:49:43.000 --> 01:49:45.840
you just lay out like the plot
of the film, it's mostly straightforward.

1521
01:49:45.880 --> 01:49:50.600
There's some questions about what happens and
what doesn't, but overall, it's like

1522
01:49:50.640 --> 01:49:56.239
you're talking about, like the background
that is just so fascinating. There's things

1523
01:49:56.239 --> 01:49:59.960
that just feel so off. Like
one of my favorites that I didn't notice

1524
01:50:00.079 --> 01:50:02.119
for years until somebody pointed out,
but like when he goes to the interview

1525
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:05.560
office, he's in the middle of
the building, but yet there is a

1526
01:50:05.680 --> 01:50:10.800
window to the outside behind the guy
and you don't pick up on that knowingly,

1527
01:50:10.960 --> 01:50:14.239
but something just continues to fill off
scene to scene and you're like,

1528
01:50:14.640 --> 01:50:17.960
it doesn't make sense and you don't
know what it is. Yeah, completely

1529
01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:21.560
unnerving. Something about every single scene. You just go something it's a little

1530
01:50:21.560 --> 01:50:25.560
off here, and then you know, of course, you know, I

1531
01:50:25.600 --> 01:50:29.359
know a documentary talking about it's a
very fascinating documentary just to see what people

1532
01:50:29.399 --> 01:50:32.000
can come up with, because you
know, it's the same thing when you're

1533
01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:35.479
talking about any artists, when you
talk about their intentions. It's probably not

1534
01:50:35.520 --> 01:50:39.079
as deep as you want it to
be. But that doesn't make it any

1535
01:50:39.119 --> 01:50:43.600
less cool. It doesn't make it
any less legitimate. It's just people can

1536
01:50:43.640 --> 01:50:47.199
come up with some wild ideas.
Alrighty, my friend, let's see you

1537
01:50:47.239 --> 01:50:53.039
kiss some people off, all right
that I'm actually going to get some stuff

1538
01:50:53.039 --> 01:50:56.359
that just didn't quite make my top
ten that I think are worth mentioning.

1539
01:50:56.399 --> 01:51:00.279
You've actually mentioned four of them,
which was stand by me, Zuri,

1540
01:51:00.399 --> 01:51:04.239
creep show in the mist all fantastic, the one that I'm going to be

1541
01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:06.680
alone here, So before I pissed
people off, I'll just give them a

1542
01:51:06.680 --> 01:51:10.960
real shocker of picking that this.
I wanted this so bad to be in

1543
01:51:11.039 --> 01:51:14.600
my top ten because it's such an
off the wall pick. It seems like,

1544
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:21.399
but it is Larry Cohen's are Returns
to Salem's Lot. Can disconnect it

1545
01:51:21.479 --> 01:51:27.640
from Salem's Lot. It is awesome, Like it is such a wild little

1546
01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:31.520
movie that I think I understand.
I understand that when you take Salem's Lot

1547
01:51:31.520 --> 01:51:33.520
with it, you're like, this
makes no sense. The movie doesn't make

1548
01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:38.000
sense, but it feels like a
Larry Cohen film, and I can just

1549
01:51:38.079 --> 01:51:43.319
always get behind that. It's a
good pick, good pick. So my

1550
01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:46.960
number one. Since we hadn't got
we've gotten to the main people. We

1551
01:51:47.000 --> 01:51:51.640
got to Rob Reiner, and we
got to Tobe Hooper, we got to

1552
01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:57.199
Frank Derrebah, who were all big
into the the King sphere. So the

1553
01:51:57.199 --> 01:52:00.680
only one we haven't really got to
talk about directly is Mike Flanagan. So

1554
01:52:00.800 --> 01:52:04.600
I'm going to end it with Doctor
Sleep. I will die on the hill

1555
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:10.439
that Doctor Sleep is better than the
Shining I am already. Yeah, let's

1556
01:52:10.439 --> 01:52:16.760
both talk about doctor Sleep. Someone
I was going to pick the Running Man,

1557
01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:21.000
so I at least got to prove
them wrong. Yeah, this is

1558
01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:24.640
gonna piss a lot of people off
because we didn't mention, Like if pet

1559
01:52:24.680 --> 01:52:28.479
Cemetery has not even going to mention
tonight, there's a couple of big ones

1560
01:52:28.520 --> 01:52:34.199
that have not even grased our lips
tonight. But something about Flanagan works so

1561
01:52:34.359 --> 01:52:39.720
perfectly for me. He understands King's
tone, Like I think that's something and

1562
01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:42.920
I don't think anyone has to do
it. I don't think Hooper is one

1563
01:52:42.960 --> 01:52:45.479
that's interested in King's tone or anything
like that, but I think Flannagan gets

1564
01:52:45.479 --> 01:52:50.560
it very well, Like he understands
the heart of what makes King King to

1565
01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:56.199
me, the melodrama, the things
like that, And I think there's no

1566
01:52:56.279 --> 01:52:59.439
better example of that than Doctor Sleep, which should have been the most impossible

1567
01:52:59.479 --> 01:53:03.560
movie to make. Yeah. I
was really ready for the flashback scenes to

1568
01:53:03.640 --> 01:53:10.319
be god awful, and somehow they
were just respectful and like properly carried out.

1569
01:53:10.720 --> 01:53:14.319
I really expected to be able to
tear apart every single scene that they

1570
01:53:14.319 --> 01:53:19.039
did that in and I couldn't.
I gotta admit Ewan McGregor way better than

1571
01:53:19.079 --> 01:53:24.560
I expected him to be in this
film. I was completely stuck for every

1572
01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:30.159
single scene that they did for this
I was very happy with this, like

1573
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:34.319
trying to toe the line as they
went down this entire crazy story because this

1574
01:53:34.359 --> 01:53:40.840
could have fallen apart at many many
different parts, and somehow flanning And is

1575
01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:44.439
able to wringle it all in and
he doesn't always do that. Like House

1576
01:53:44.439 --> 01:53:47.479
of Usher, I gotta admit didn't
really hold for me like like this did.

1577
01:53:47.520 --> 01:53:51.479
I think House of Usher is maybe
his biggest failure for me yet as

1578
01:53:51.600 --> 01:53:57.119
far as everything he's made, Literally, I'm very happy with this one.

1579
01:53:57.279 --> 01:54:00.359
I really wish more people had seen
it. I feel like a lot of

1580
01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:03.520
people just refuse to watch it because
of the connection to the Shining And I

1581
01:54:03.640 --> 01:54:08.479
don't know why. This movie is
so damn good. Yeah, and I

1582
01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:12.079
mean I actually thought you were gonna
pick Gerald's Game because Gerald's Game is one

1583
01:54:12.119 --> 01:54:15.239
that people said was impossible to make, because that's what I was alluding to

1584
01:54:15.279 --> 01:54:16.680
earlier. Yeah, and I was
like, Okay, Gerald's Game is a

1585
01:54:16.680 --> 01:54:20.000
great one. I love Gerald's Game, But to me, Doctor Sleep was

1586
01:54:20.039 --> 01:54:24.960
even harder because he made it harder
on himself. He could have sat there

1587
01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:28.039
and said, we're going to do
an adaptation of Doctor Sleep. We're not

1588
01:54:28.079 --> 01:54:30.199
going to connect it to Kubrick,
We're just going to do a King one

1589
01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:33.880
and just accept it because making it, we'd have to change so much about

1590
01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:38.000
the novel in the final act to
make it work. And he said,

1591
01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:40.560
you know what, I'm gonna do
it anyway. I'm going to make it

1592
01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:45.800
connect. I'm gonna get not only
am I going to connect it to Kubrick's

1593
01:54:45.840 --> 01:54:49.239
film and make a sequel to something
that everyone's going to automatically be distrustful of.

1594
01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:53.640
I'm going to make sure I don't
make it until King approves of it.

1595
01:54:54.079 --> 01:55:00.560
Yep, a sql to a movie
he hates. Like he's set himself

1596
01:55:00.640 --> 01:55:02.279
up to fail every step of the
way, and I feel like he succeeded

1597
01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:05.880
every time, especially the director's cut. Like I think the mistake was not

1598
01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:12.079
putting that director's cut out because it's
such a stronger film. Yeah, and

1599
01:55:12.800 --> 01:55:15.479
that is perhaps maybe the reason why
I love it so much. I've actually

1600
01:55:15.520 --> 01:55:19.359
not seen the theatrical cut. I've
only watched the director's cut, and I

1601
01:55:19.680 --> 01:55:24.520
won't even say the theatrical cut is
bad. I really enjoyed it, but

1602
01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:29.279
it felt very rushed. It didn't
pay off like the final act, which

1603
01:55:29.399 --> 01:55:31.880
I know is still controversial with people. Where the last act takes place at

1604
01:55:31.920 --> 01:55:35.199
the Overlook. I really love the
scenes at the Overlook, and it is

1605
01:55:35.239 --> 01:55:41.840
the nostalgia. I love every moment
of being back in the Overlook, and

1606
01:55:41.920 --> 01:55:45.760
I liked the connection to the ending
of the Shining as a novel, like

1607
01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:47.439
that's honestly, you look at it, you're like, that's where King screwed

1608
01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:51.640
up when he wanted to make Doctor
Sleep. He destroyed the Overlook and he

1609
01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:55.279
couldn't do anything with it in Doctor
Sleep. It was cool for him to

1610
01:55:55.279 --> 01:55:58.680
be able to kind of bring those
worlds together. And I mean, even

1611
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:01.760
at Kubrick's State son often said they
they're happy with it. I was like,

1612
01:56:01.800 --> 01:56:08.600
that's probably the greatest accomplishment he'll ever
have in my opinion. Yeah,

1613
01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:11.319
literally, accomplishment, I think is
the right word there. And there's a

1614
01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:15.439
lot of these things that you know, you could argue as like a masterpiece

1615
01:56:15.479 --> 01:56:20.039
of dialogue like Midnight Mass or a
technical masterpiece on some of these other scenes,

1616
01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:26.399
but specifically, this one is an
accomplishment for being able to literally overcome

1617
01:56:27.079 --> 01:56:30.680
literally every adversity that could possibly have
been against him, and he pulls it

1618
01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:36.039
off beautifully with an incredible cast.
Not sure why I didn't bring up Rebecca

1619
01:56:36.079 --> 01:56:41.159
Ferguson when I started speaking, but
she is when I alluded to maybe the

1620
01:56:41.199 --> 01:56:45.560
best villain earlier to Annie Wilkes,
Rebecca Ferguson might take it for me.

1621
01:56:45.760 --> 01:56:51.000
She is freaking terrifying in this.
Not sure why some people are turned off

1622
01:56:51.039 --> 01:56:56.680
by some of those scenes, but
her scenes specifically in this are legendary.

1623
01:56:56.920 --> 01:57:00.479
She is absolutely taking this role to
a next level. And to me,

1624
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:02.199
you know, we were talking and
this is kind of the movie I was

1625
01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:08.680
alluding to. That is basically how
King writes vampires now, like this is

1626
01:57:09.119 --> 01:57:14.159
his vampires for his shine, for
that, because that's essentially what they are.

1627
01:57:14.199 --> 01:57:19.119
They're based off Eastern European stuff.
They are seductress in a sense,

1628
01:57:19.239 --> 01:57:25.359
they take life force from somebody to
live longer. And it's such an interesting

1629
01:57:25.399 --> 01:57:27.840
way to go about it that connects
so well to his world, but not

1630
01:57:27.920 --> 01:57:30.840
without Sometimes King can get a little
over, in my opinion, get a

1631
01:57:30.880 --> 01:57:34.560
little over trying to connect everything.
But I think this is a much more

1632
01:57:34.640 --> 01:57:38.760
natural that we're going to just come
about shine and how important shine is to

1633
01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:44.960
the King universe and actually kind of
taking a more fantastical element but still keeping

1634
01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:51.079
it as a sequel to something pretty
grounded. Honorable mentions for me since I

1635
01:57:51.079 --> 01:57:54.920
did not get to bring them up
the first time, because I did not

1636
01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:56.960
think we were gonna have the same
Number one. I really thought you were

1637
01:57:57.000 --> 01:58:00.000
gonna go way out of left field. Number eleven from me was Jerald's Game.

1638
01:58:00.079 --> 01:58:02.760
This was very close to making it
on my list. I think the

1639
01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:06.079
only reason it didn't is because I've
only seen it twice, and some of

1640
01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:11.039
these others I've seen like forty times
and I love them so much. But

1641
01:58:11.119 --> 01:58:15.560
Gerald's Game is a damn good,
damn good take on that story. I

1642
01:58:15.680 --> 01:58:17.600
just I can't even remember who it
was, but just this week it might

1643
01:58:17.640 --> 01:58:19.840
have been my mom I was talking
to and she's in the chat right now,

1644
01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:23.399
but I was telling somebody they need
to go watch this movie because it

1645
01:58:23.479 --> 01:58:25.600
is so well done. I think
it was my mom because we were talking

1646
01:58:25.600 --> 01:58:30.199
about the wolf scene and how just
terrifying that is and isolating. It feels

1647
01:58:30.279 --> 01:58:34.279
kind of like the Shining and a
lot of that. My number twelve was

1648
01:58:34.680 --> 01:58:40.319
fourteen oh eight, Love fourteen oh
eight. I think it's a great movie.

1649
01:58:41.079 --> 01:58:43.399
I think that it's way better than
it had any right to be.

1650
01:58:44.239 --> 01:58:47.640
My number thirteen was nineteen twenty two, another Netflix take on one of these

1651
01:58:47.640 --> 01:58:51.840
stories. I think Thomas Jane was
pretty damn good in this movie. Unfortunately,

1652
01:58:51.880 --> 01:58:56.680
I think that second act was just
leaving a lot to be desired for

1653
01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.880
me. But other than that,
I think it was really really well done.

1654
01:59:00.439 --> 01:59:02.000
I had to Manglas so hard.
It's such I think that should have

1655
01:59:02.039 --> 01:59:05.960
been like a forty five minute film, and I think it'd have been perfect,

1656
01:59:06.399 --> 01:59:09.760
and Netflix would have been perfect for
that. If you're gonna do that,

1657
01:59:09.840 --> 01:59:14.600
you get for Netflix. Mentioned the
Mangler earlier. One that we haven't

1658
01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:17.439
talked about hit tonight. I kind
of love Graveyard Shift. I haven't seen

1659
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:19.520
it. I was one on my
list I wanted to get to, but

1660
01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:24.520
I've never seen it. It doesn't
quite hit the quality for me as some

1661
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:27.880
of these others, but it absolutely
deserves a mention tonight. And then I

1662
01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:30.640
had Shashank written down. I know
it's not on your list, but for

1663
01:59:30.760 --> 01:59:33.399
me, it is slightly better than
The Green Mile. I think it's a

1664
01:59:33.399 --> 01:59:36.960
wonderful movie, wonderful story. Although
just like I think it was Joel said

1665
01:59:36.960 --> 01:59:41.640
in the chat earlier tonight, at
this point in time, it is easily

1666
01:59:41.680 --> 01:59:45.199
one of the most overrated films of
all time. This is not like God's

1667
01:59:45.199 --> 01:59:47.760
gift to filmmaking when you watch Shashank
Redemption, like a lot of people think

1668
01:59:47.760 --> 01:59:50.960
that it is. It's a very
good story and it's very well made,

1669
01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:55.279
incredibly acted. It's just not the
best movie of all time. It's a

1670
01:59:55.359 --> 01:59:58.600
very likable movie. Like I think
that. Like even me who's kind of

1671
01:59:58.600 --> 02:00:02.279
being a little negative on it,
still like the movie. There's nothing wrong

1672
02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:09.159
with it. Like it's hard to
criticize it because Frank Darabon is very good

1673
02:00:09.159 --> 02:00:13.479
at what he does. It's just
like, do I ever feel like rewatching

1674
02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:17.640
at a time does not come up? The hard thing is, for like

1675
02:00:17.680 --> 02:00:20.119
ten years of my life, every
time that it was on TV, and

1676
02:00:20.159 --> 02:00:24.840
it played on T and T a
lot, I would sit and finish it

1677
02:00:24.840 --> 02:00:28.479
no matter where it was on the
story. And I've seen Shoshank probably more

1678
02:00:28.479 --> 02:00:31.039
than any of these on this list, which is wild because it's not even

1679
02:00:31.119 --> 02:00:35.880
like my go to type of movie. It's just something about it. It

1680
02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:40.239
just ropes you in, and it's
because it's so well made. Darabont,

1681
02:00:40.600 --> 02:00:44.119
Dara Bant and I think that's probably
the big thing to take away from this

1682
02:00:44.199 --> 02:00:46.159
tonight. Dara BoNT and Flannagan,
I think, are the two that can

1683
02:00:46.199 --> 02:00:50.760
adapt King stories best. Flannagan does
it for the horror, Darre Bond does

1684
02:00:50.800 --> 02:00:55.840
it for the dramas, and they
are both just so damn great. Yeah,

1685
02:00:55.880 --> 02:00:59.279
And I think I think a lot
of when you look at like we

1686
02:00:59.279 --> 02:01:01.279
talked about a lot of great directors
who tackle these and they all did their

1687
02:01:01.279 --> 02:01:04.199
own thing. They output their and
spin on it. But I think not

1688
02:01:04.319 --> 02:01:10.119
many of them had interest in adapting
King. They like the story, they

1689
02:01:10.159 --> 02:01:12.239
like the idea, and said I'm
going to do it my own way.

1690
02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:14.720
And I think that's respectful. I
think that's great. I don't think there's

1691
02:01:14.720 --> 02:01:17.960
a thing wrong with that because people
like Carpenter and Hooper aren't gonna be as

1692
02:01:18.079 --> 02:01:21.960
interested in that, where somebody like
Flanagan, who obviously has a lot of

1693
02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:27.640
love for his influences, wants to
pay respect in the only way he knows

1694
02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:32.880
how. Absolutely so King adaptions.
Anything else that you want to bring up,

1695
02:01:34.520 --> 02:01:39.119
Oh, I'm sitting here trying to
think. I do like the mini

1696
02:01:39.159 --> 02:01:41.760
series. I haven't seen it in
a long time, but I actually do

1697
02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:45.800
think it's a pretty solid film.
My memories of it are pretty good.

1698
02:01:46.239 --> 02:01:50.840
That's another one. I just haven't
done here the nostalgia of that one,

1699
02:01:50.840 --> 02:01:55.560
though, I really feel like if
it wasn't Tim Curry, it would not

1700
02:01:55.640 --> 02:01:58.920
be favored nearly as highly as it
And that's probably true because that's a lot

1701
02:01:58.920 --> 02:02:02.800
of where my memories are for it. R I was read as another one

1702
02:02:02.920 --> 02:02:08.359
I seem to remember budget. Yeah, but it's it's also been a long

1703
02:02:08.399 --> 02:02:12.199
time and it's for it's longer than
sort of the century is. So I

1704
02:02:12.279 --> 02:02:15.439
just haven't gotten around. So I
have a DVD copy here somewhere, so

1705
02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:19.439
I need to get to it nice. Uh dude, McMahon is calling out

1706
02:02:19.439 --> 02:02:24.039
Tom Holland for the Lengeliers and Thinner. I gotta admit I've got a soft

1707
02:02:24.039 --> 02:02:29.479
spot for Thinner. I worked on
the Screen Factory disc that's about to be

1708
02:02:29.520 --> 02:02:34.039
released. That's awesome. Editing the
interviews for that disc brought back so many

1709
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:40.039
wild memories of what was happening around
that time with this, because the timeline

1710
02:02:40.039 --> 02:02:43.159
of things were sort of weird.
Holland was brought in at a at an

1711
02:02:43.199 --> 02:02:45.840
odd time. The person that was
going to do the effects changed a couple

1712
02:02:45.880 --> 02:02:50.039
of times, and it's Thinner is
not a great movie, but the effects

1713
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:54.039
in that movie. Again, like
I talked about Christine, the effects on

1714
02:02:54.119 --> 02:03:00.640
Thinner are freaking legendary. Absolutely love
it. David Holland, did anyone mentioned

1715
02:03:00.680 --> 02:03:03.079
Running Man? No, neither one
of us mentioned Running Man. Is I

1716
02:03:03.079 --> 02:03:06.920
have nothing against it. I honestly, I don't even like classifight with King.

1717
02:03:08.000 --> 02:03:10.720
I'm gonna be honest. Yeah,
I mean King didn't write that book.

1718
02:03:13.520 --> 02:03:17.359
Yeah see, yeah, there we
go, Richard Bagma. Technically Thinner

1719
02:03:17.439 --> 02:03:21.600
was Backman too. As I'm talking
about that, that's perfect timing. Yeah's

1720
02:03:21.680 --> 02:03:26.319
Thinner is not great, but the
effects in that movie are a damn lot

1721
02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:29.680
of fun. So I do have
to tell my story with The Langoliers because

1722
02:03:29.720 --> 02:03:34.760
that's another very influential movie in my
childhood. So I used to have to

1723
02:03:34.760 --> 02:03:36.640
get up really early for school.
I had to get up at like five

1724
02:03:36.680 --> 02:03:39.640
thirty when my dad was leaving,
so I'd get my sister up and we

1725
02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:43.800
get on the bus by seven seven
am. And so there was this thing

1726
02:03:43.800 --> 02:03:47.039
where I was going through we DVR, or actually I think we were recording

1727
02:03:47.079 --> 02:03:51.119
him on VHS. We would record
the mini series that were coming out,

1728
02:03:51.159 --> 02:03:55.239
like The Stand and things like that, and The Langaliers was one of them.

1729
02:03:55.279 --> 02:03:59.279
And I was very excited after the
stand to get to the Langoliers.

1730
02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:03.279
Yeah, and the Langoliers is important
to me because it's the first time I

1731
02:04:03.279 --> 02:04:10.520
can remember being truly disappointed. I'll
get up for a whole week, get

1732
02:04:10.600 --> 02:04:13.479
up, watch like forty five minutes
of it, and then wait till the

1733
02:04:13.479 --> 02:04:15.840
next day, and then I got
to watch the next forty five minutes,

1734
02:04:15.279 --> 02:04:20.720
and then I saw the Langoliers and
I was like, oh, I don't

1735
02:04:20.720 --> 02:04:24.159
know what to feel anymore. And
I think that was when I first felt

1736
02:04:24.159 --> 02:04:29.399
disappointment in a story, in a
movie or anything. And it's not fair

1737
02:04:29.439 --> 02:04:30.479
to the movie. The movie is
you know, it was dealing with the

1738
02:04:30.479 --> 02:04:33.000
budget hass. But you know what, like eight year old me does not

1739
02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:39.319
understand that, it understands that's what
I waited a whole week to see.

1740
02:04:40.199 --> 02:04:43.760
Well, And honestly, you know, in the world where everybody complains about

1741
02:04:43.800 --> 02:04:46.760
remakes, I kind of think something
like Langoliers is the perfect thing to remake

1742
02:04:46.920 --> 02:04:51.680
because it's a really interesting story,
really compelling. The way that it's written

1743
02:04:51.760 --> 02:04:56.079
is great. The world just wasn't
ready to make it yet. And if

1744
02:04:56.079 --> 02:04:59.840
we could make it in twenty twenty
three, we could probably do something.

1745
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:01.680
Are you with it? And I
mean that's a lot of King stuff,

1746
02:05:01.720 --> 02:05:06.399
Like I mean, you either needed
to scale a lot back to make it

1747
02:05:06.439 --> 02:05:09.880
work because I mean, you know, we talked about yet we're not gonna

1748
02:05:09.880 --> 02:05:15.760
be talking about turtle gods because that's
gonna make a mess of things or child

1749
02:05:15.800 --> 02:05:27.279
ging rape. Yeah it was a
coke field time. Some King's early early

1750
02:05:27.319 --> 02:05:30.960
anyway. But yeah, I mean, you know it's a lot of that,

1751
02:05:30.039 --> 02:05:32.600
And I mean that's why I'm kind
of excited for Amazon to be I

1752
02:05:32.640 --> 02:05:36.359
think it's Amazon's paying all the money
for Dark Tower. It's like good because

1753
02:05:36.359 --> 02:05:41.119
it's it needs a lot of money, yeah, and it needs somebody who

1754
02:05:41.119 --> 02:05:44.960
knows what they're doing to make it. As I brought up, there was

1755
02:05:44.960 --> 02:05:47.079
no mention of pet Cemetery tonight.
How do you feel about pet Cemetery?

1756
02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:50.960
So pet Cemetery to me is the
top five Stephen King book and no one

1757
02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:56.880
has figured out how to make it. The movie. The first movie is

1758
02:05:56.880 --> 02:06:00.680
fine, Like I've I've already pissed
people off enough, so I might as

1759
02:06:00.720 --> 02:06:04.520
well just be completely honest here that
maybe's fine. It's it's okay. I

1760
02:06:05.119 --> 02:06:10.680
think the first pet Cemetery has Zelda
and about nothing else going for it.

1761
02:06:11.560 --> 02:06:15.520
Yeah, I mean it has Herman
Mnster in it, and he's great.

1762
02:06:15.239 --> 02:06:20.680
I like his like Gwyn was incredible, but he he, I don't know.

1763
02:06:20.760 --> 02:06:25.039
It's it's kind of an odd obviously, it's an odd rule to take

1764
02:06:25.119 --> 02:06:30.479
up, especially when you're like the
You're you're the only one delivering the lore

1765
02:06:30.600 --> 02:06:32.960
for the film, but you're not
like this scary character, even though they

1766
02:06:33.079 --> 02:06:36.760
kind of tried to make John Lithgow
be this this scary one on the remake.

1767
02:06:38.079 --> 02:06:43.319
But I don't know, other than
Zelda, that first movie is pretty

1768
02:06:43.399 --> 02:06:45.880
damn boring to me. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's it's It's the

1769
02:06:45.920 --> 02:06:49.239
same thing with a lot. When
you talk about people try to adapt king

1770
02:06:50.039 --> 02:06:54.960
Is. They get parts of it, they get the iconic parts of it

1771
02:06:55.039 --> 02:06:58.520
for by, but then they can't. I feel like they can't connect it

1772
02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:01.359
together. Like when I read Pets
Cemetery, it is so tragic to read,

1773
02:07:01.760 --> 02:07:06.159
like you know, you were really
understanding. You're watching a character do

1774
02:07:06.479 --> 02:07:10.600
the thing you know is the stupidest
thing they can do. It's the worst

1775
02:07:10.640 --> 02:07:14.239
decision they can make. But every
step of the way you say I understand

1776
02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:15.960
it, I agree with it because
I understand what he's going through it.

1777
02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:21.560
I'm officially losing many of my closest
many of my closest friends are leaving right

1778
02:07:21.560 --> 02:07:28.359
now. I knew this will be
a fun one because I think everyone's very

1779
02:07:28.399 --> 02:07:31.520
passionate about King, because I think, I mean, unless you're born in

1780
02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:34.520
like the fifties or sixties, every
one of us has had this in our

1781
02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:40.680
childhood's at some point. Yeah,
there's something nostalgic about King. Yeah,

1782
02:07:40.720 --> 02:07:45.399
and specifically about pet Cemetery. I
think for a lot of people around that

1783
02:07:45.520 --> 02:07:48.399
age that it was like the huge
period for King. You were the perfect

1784
02:07:48.479 --> 02:07:53.760
age to watch pet Cemetery, and
therefore it just hit exactly right. Unfortunately,

1785
02:07:53.840 --> 02:07:58.159
I came just slightly after that,
and that means it was built up

1786
02:07:58.199 --> 02:08:01.520
and I just didn't with it when
it came out. Yeah. I came

1787
02:08:01.920 --> 02:08:07.920
a lot during the TV movie era
for King, so I associate a lot

1788
02:08:07.920 --> 02:08:11.479
of King with TV movies, and
I think that's probably a big part of

1789
02:08:11.479 --> 02:08:15.119
why Star of the Century it's so
high and it's very questionable for a lot

1790
02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:18.600
of people, but that is probably
one of the first things from King I

1791
02:08:18.640 --> 02:08:24.479
remember watching. Besides the Shining Interesting, I think Carrie was my first,

1792
02:08:24.520 --> 02:08:28.039
now that I think about it,
it was probably up there. I know

1793
02:08:28.119 --> 02:08:31.000
my mom had that on VHS.
But before my computer dies and you're here

1794
02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:35.960
by yourself, I'm gonna grab a
charger real quick. I apologize to everybody

1795
02:08:35.960 --> 02:08:41.640
that is already just livid. Yeah, I'm not a super fan of pet

1796
02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:48.479
Cemetery. I didn't hate the remake
because it was so different from the original.

1797
02:08:48.680 --> 02:08:52.800
I thought they were both about the
same level of fine. Does lawnmower

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Man need a four K? Probably
not, but Shout will probably give it

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to us. Sleepwalkers is definitely not
a master piece. Right As I say,

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Sleepwalkers is not a masterpiece. A
Zombies eight my arm says it is

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a masterpiece, so okay, area. So I love mc garris as a

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02:09:16.960 --> 02:09:20.239
person. I think he is awesome. I love what he's done for horror.

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02:09:22.439 --> 02:09:24.159
I can't think of a movie he's
done that I think is great.

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02:09:24.199 --> 02:09:30.079
I think he does interesting things.
But I love him more as a producer

1805
02:09:30.279 --> 02:09:35.359
and like I guess a showrunner when
we talk about like masters of Horror than

1806
02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:39.119
I do necessarily as a director.
I think his interviews are great. I

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02:09:39.159 --> 02:09:41.279
love him as an interviewer too.
He did an interview with Flanagan, and

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02:09:41.279 --> 02:09:45.399
that was I mean, he still
can do it well, he should do

1809
02:09:45.640 --> 02:09:52.319
even more than he does. I'm
looking up his full filmography and there's nothing

1810
02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:58.600
that's sticking out as incredible. Psycho
for is not bad, but it's still

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not anywhere near the first three.
Yeah, Psycho is a weirdly consistent series

1812
02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:11.920
and it has no reason. Right. Ronnie says, I want my eighty

1813
02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:20.039
dollars lawnmower Man lobby cards. No
thanks, as Zach, he might disagree.

1814
02:10:22.039 --> 02:10:28.159
What am I disagreeing about? Maybe
lawnmower Man and Sleepwalkers. I have

1815
02:10:28.319 --> 02:10:31.960
okay memories with Sleepwalkers, though it's
been a long time, Like there are

1816
02:10:31.960 --> 02:10:33.760
a lot of these. I said
a whole month I was gonna sit there

1817
02:10:33.760 --> 02:10:37.560
and try to rewatch a bunch of
them. And then I went through Kujo

1818
02:10:37.640 --> 02:10:39.439
and it chapter one, and I
think the disappointment I was like, you

1819
02:10:39.439 --> 02:10:45.079
know, sometimes it's okay for things
to be left as memories. That's okay.

1820
02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:50.239
Yeah, this comment, my dude, McMahon says, my wife and

1821
02:10:50.319 --> 02:10:52.239
I drove by the houses that were
used in pet Cemetery, no joke.

1822
02:10:52.319 --> 02:10:56.239
We drove through a rock cory to
get there and had tons of semi trucks

1823
02:10:56.319 --> 02:10:58.039
rolling down the narrow road, just
like the movie. And yeah, I

1824
02:10:58.720 --> 02:11:03.760
think King took a lot of that
from real like, man, this is

1825
02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:09.520
kind of dangerous around here. So
I mentioned, yeah, that's good.

1826
02:11:09.560 --> 02:11:13.279
It's like a really good movie.
It just didn't quite make my top fifteen.

1827
02:11:13.239 --> 02:11:18.880
Yeah. I feel the exact same
way. It's not even oh man,

1828
02:11:18.960 --> 02:11:24.560
it's not like top five or seven
Cronenberg for me probably, And it's

1829
02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:28.600
a weird one for Cronenberg because you
listen to a lot of interviews with him

1830
02:11:28.920 --> 02:11:33.760
where he really doesn't like supernatural stuff, so him going with King is such

1831
02:11:33.800 --> 02:11:35.920
an odd idea. But he does
good with it. But like I remember

1832
02:11:35.960 --> 02:11:37.880
watching it for the first time after
I knew that, and I was like,

1833
02:11:37.920 --> 02:11:41.399
he must like ride around some of
this somehow, but he doesn't.

1834
02:11:41.439 --> 02:11:46.560
It's straight up a supernatural story and
it's like, okay, different for Kronenberg,

1835
02:11:46.640 --> 02:11:50.920
but I dig it. Yeah,
And I think God with Kronenberg,

1836
02:11:50.960 --> 02:11:56.239
there's probably ten of his i'd rather
watch before Dead Zone. I think it's

1837
02:11:56.319 --> 02:11:58.520
good. Yeah, But I mean
Kronerberg is great at what he does.

1838
02:11:58.560 --> 02:12:03.920
That's the hard part. Yeah,
I mean I had it's another one of

1839
02:12:03.920 --> 02:12:09.920
those where I would gladly rewatch Dead
Zone, just it wouldn't be first choice.

1840
02:12:11.560 --> 02:12:15.840
Walkin's great, he's awesome in it. He's always fun. Ben is

1841
02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:18.880
saying, just tuned into anyone includes
Silver Bullet. Basically, Zack did,

1842
02:12:20.159 --> 02:12:26.680
Yeah, I did. Oh my
god? What about fire Starter? No

1843
02:12:26.800 --> 02:12:31.520
love for Native American George C.
Scott? Well, at least that's maybe

1844
02:12:31.520 --> 02:12:33.439
the eighty four to one and not
whatever they put out a year or two.

1845
02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:39.079
Guy, I'm just glad we made
this be the second take because the

1846
02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:41.720
first time when you brought up Katsitet
number three that was that was pretty abysmal.

1847
02:12:46.119 --> 02:12:50.239
Oh man, Uh, there's a
good question. Any directors you think

1848
02:12:50.279 --> 02:12:56.079
would make good King adaptations? You
know the first part. I'm gonna go

1849
02:12:56.119 --> 02:12:58.960
with the first answer that came into
my mind. But one just because he

1850
02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:03.640
can. He's got that goofiness about
him that I think he would bring and

1851
02:13:03.680 --> 02:13:07.720
the effects, the focus on effects
and like some fast paced but I actually

1852
02:13:07.760 --> 02:13:11.039
think one would make a very interesting
King one. It wouldn't be accurate the

1853
02:13:11.119 --> 02:13:15.640
King, but I think it would
be interesting. Hmm. I want to

1854
02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:20.760
see like a a super pretentious Robert
Eggers. Oh my god, I'm trying

1855
02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:24.319
to think what would be the best
one for him. I'm trying to sit

1856
02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:28.439
here and think he would do a
good revival one, but I can't see

1857
02:13:28.479 --> 02:13:35.840
him doing anything modern day. Oh
man, you know what I mean.

1858
02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:37.079
He's doing those fatu. I would
love to see him, you know,

1859
02:13:37.159 --> 02:13:41.840
adapt that slightly to Salem's Lot.
Yeah I could. Yeah, he would

1860
02:13:41.840 --> 02:13:46.039
probably do well with that. But
yeah, Eggars would be good. I

1861
02:13:46.079 --> 02:13:48.600
don't think Astro would actually be a
very strong king. I don't know why,

1862
02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:52.920
just he doesn't seem like it would
fit him. No, it's not

1863
02:13:54.000 --> 02:13:58.199
quite depressing enough for our Astor.
Uh Stan is a good one, he

1864
02:13:58.199 --> 02:14:01.880
says Richard Stanley, and I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think that'll ever

1865
02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:05.640
happen. If it won't happen,
but yeah, he'd probably he has the

1866
02:14:05.720 --> 02:14:11.119
right the ideas for it, right
tone. Do we think the Talisman will

1867
02:14:11.159 --> 02:14:18.880
ever be made into a film?
Is it not? I don't think.

1868
02:14:18.199 --> 02:14:20.039
I haven't seen it if it is, But for some reason I thought they

1869
02:14:20.039 --> 02:14:26.680
had made one. But that's the
one with job right black House, I

1870
02:14:26.720 --> 02:14:33.079
think so yeah. Oh, since
uh Edgars could do, I have the

1871
02:14:33.159 --> 02:14:35.840
dragon that would be That's the only
like one I could think of that would

1872
02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:41.560
be really interesting. There is a
movie called The Talisman, but it's based

1873
02:14:41.600 --> 02:14:46.520
on another Okay, that might be
what I'm thinking of. Uh, Simmoners

1874
02:14:46.560 --> 02:14:50.600
says, let Edgars do The Man
in Black as a short film. Yeah,

1875
02:14:50.720 --> 02:14:54.039
the Desert shuts. And then somebody
said long Walk. I would love

1876
02:14:54.039 --> 02:15:00.720
to see long Walk. Yeah,
someone do the Long Walk already. Yeah,

1877
02:15:00.840 --> 02:15:05.159
Edgar's directing The Girl who Loved Tom
Gordon. Eyes of the Dragon says

1878
02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:07.760
Stan. Yeah, there's a lot
that could be done really well. And

1879
02:15:09.159 --> 02:15:11.800
honestly, again we were talking about
remakes for a second. A lot of

1880
02:15:11.840 --> 02:15:16.880
the Stephen King stuff that is not
highly regarded. The stories weren't the bad

1881
02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:22.199
part there. It was just there
was some poor acting and obviously effects in

1882
02:15:22.279 --> 02:15:24.399
a lot of the Stephen King stuff
was just bottom tier. And if they

1883
02:15:24.399 --> 02:15:28.520
could throw some money at some of
these, they could do some really good

1884
02:15:28.520 --> 02:15:31.920
stuff nowadays. Yeah, and I
mean I didn't mention it on here,

1885
02:15:31.960 --> 02:15:35.119
and actually I just thought about it. But the mini series that Hulu did

1886
02:15:35.279 --> 02:15:41.039
eleven twenty two sixty three yeah was
surprisingly very good. I mean they could

1887
02:15:41.079 --> 02:15:43.920
do more stuff like that, just
because some of his stuff is so more

1888
02:15:43.960 --> 02:15:48.479
heavy. Not everything needs to be
a mini series but there are certain things

1889
02:15:48.479 --> 02:15:52.640
that's more heavy enough to do it. Yeah, and obviously eleven twenty two

1890
02:15:52.640 --> 02:15:56.279
sixty three is the perfect way to
do a mini series because it's wrapped up

1891
02:15:56.279 --> 02:15:58.319
in so many different things. But
it's I don't know, there was something

1892
02:15:58.319 --> 02:16:01.800
about that that was just compelling and
it wasn't even like Franco, even though

1893
02:16:03.079 --> 02:16:07.079
obviously Franco's on a weird canceled not
canceled spot. But yeah, good story

1894
02:16:07.119 --> 02:16:15.399
in that one. This has been
fun. I think a lot of people

1895
02:16:15.479 --> 02:16:18.319
chat mad at me, me too. Let's see how any people come back

1896
02:16:18.359 --> 02:16:24.000
next week. Good way to start
the new year. Yeah, what a

1897
02:16:24.039 --> 02:16:28.199
way to celebrate the end of the
year. All right, Zach, I

1898
02:16:28.199 --> 02:16:31.959
think we've done it. We did
pretty great with this. Remindered everybody that

1899
02:16:33.040 --> 02:16:37.760
next week is subscriber week for Vinegar
Syndrome, kicking off on January first.

1900
02:16:37.799 --> 02:16:43.479
I'm here live at eleven thirty am
Eastern. On the first. We're to

1901
02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:46.000
be talking about everything that gets announced, and then next Thursday, doctor Will

1902
02:16:46.040 --> 02:16:50.040
Doddson is back and we will we
will be having some fun discussions because we

1903
02:16:50.079 --> 02:16:52.879
will not have a ton of announcements
next week, so we'll be talking about

1904
02:16:52.920 --> 02:16:58.559
movie stuff long time after that,
Zach, thanks for doing this, sir,

1905
02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.600
Thank you for having me. I'm
always happy to come on and give

1906
02:17:01.680 --> 02:17:07.959
some bad takes. Well, this
one was extra special. I appreciate all

1907
02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:11.959
you guys. Hopefully you're interested in
coming back next Thursday. If not,

1908
02:17:11.079 --> 02:17:15.280
leave a comment either way. I'm
glad you're here and we'll see you next time.