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Get some facts and come back and
seebe. Get some facts and come back

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and Seebee. Don't throw up salaries
or other things. Get some facts and

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come back and Seebee. You can't
handle the true I told our players you

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need a bit more like a dog. We don't need a bunch of cats

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in here. Looking in the mirror, I look good. I got my

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extra bands on, I got my
other shoes. Be a doll. We

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don't need no meals. We don't
need no cats. We need more dolls.

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Why not at the time, Oh
you're not. At the time,

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we weren't good. There's no sense
of asking me things about the game.

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I'm telling you. We laid an
egg. So I'm not gonna break it

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down for you. He sucks.
He sucked. He laid an egg.

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That's all I have to say.
Guys, I'm sorry. I'm not going

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to break it down for you.
Nothing went well for us. It's on

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us. We have to figure it
out emy way, Ah yo, Dad.

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We don't need no cats around here, no meum or to go,

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need more dolls. Well out of
a final hour of Exus and Bros.

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Glad you're with us? Pot This
Tuesday, May twenty first, Meyer hotline

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eighty six six eight three eight forty
eight forty three. You can text the

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program Sports Radio to twenty one thousand. Tim Lester is going to join us

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at the bottom of the hour.
The challenge that he has ahead of him

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with an Iowa offense that gained just
one hundred and seventy three total yards in

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its final game, failed to surpass
two hundred yards in a game five times

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this past season. How do you
change that? The Hawkeyes averaged two hundred

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and thirty five yards per game?
Really two thirty four point six. I

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was rounding up worse than the Big
Ten. How do you change that?

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How deep, how daunting is this
task? So I'm looking forward to the

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conversation with Tim Lester. He joins
us at eight thirty five here on exus

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m Bros. Hope you can join
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Always good to get your input via
the Meyer hotline eight six six eight

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three eight forty eight forty three or
on the text line as well. Ben

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I know we got some texts.
We're going to get to that here in

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a moment. But I did tease
this, I said, I said just

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before the break that there are certain
teams with that identity. I think.

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I think there's a lot of teams
with identities, especially in football, Like

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you'll see a couple in hockey,
like Florida is really tough to play against.

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Dallas is very well balanced. Right, Edmonton's really fast basketball. Same

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thing. Indiana loves to push the
pace. They score a lot. Look

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the numbers reflect that. Sure,
you notice they didn't really they didn't beat

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the Nicks until they really buckled down
defensively. But in football, there seems

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to be a certain characteristic that is
associated with certain teams. How are they

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built? Well, what's their identity? The identity of the Detroit Lions.

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I think my opinion has been that
they are built up front. They are

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the team that wants to maulu.
I love that. I think most people

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do. I flip and love that
stuff. Man. I love that.

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That's who they are, That's who
they've become. It's kick ass, it

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really is. It's they're going to
come at you. Well. A recent

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article CBS Sports seven teams revealed their
identity. This is what they said the

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seven teams. Chicago is one of
them. This surprised me because they said

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they're in win now mode. They
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They traded a fifth round pick for
Ryan Bates. They drafted Romadunze,

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they drafted Caleb Williams. Is a
Is that a win now mode? Their

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definition? I guess it is.
To me, it's not. I still

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think they have plenty of holes.
Washington, they said they're coveting playmakers in

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their rebuild. Jaden Daniels, Johnny
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competition at wide receiver and offense line. Minnesota confident in their roster and their

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depth. The Rams trying everything they
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basically doing it by committee, the
Steelers reshaping their offensive line. That makes

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sense, after all, they did
draft Troy Fatanau, Mason McCormick, and

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Zach Fraser in one draft. Everybody
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then they said, based on what
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Aaron Rodgers. It also helps to
have traded Zach Wilson. So that's kind

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of the synopsis of what those teams
revealed to this writer. For their identity,

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What was the Lion's identity in their
draft? You remember the draft,

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right, you remember who they took. When you go out and you draft

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a guy like Terry and Arnold some
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draft, it tells you what they're
getting great balance on the defensive side of

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the ball. When I say balance, I oftentimes think, oh, it's

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got to be offense. You got
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you have to be able to balance
on defense too. And then they

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addressed the same situation in the second
round with the nus rakestraw and then they

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go back to their identity with a
lot of the big fellows up front.

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I think the identity or what it
tells you is that they admitted recognize their

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flaws, and felt like these guys
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in and compete. Now. It
was more than just those draft picks,

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because they've done some other things in
the offseason that would make you say,

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okay, yes they you talk about
an all in team. The Lions have

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among the best balance in all of
football right now on the offensive and defensive

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side of the ball. To say
it's a complete team is a little dangerous,

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but it's pretty flipping close. This
might be going into twenty twenty four.

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It's not based on last year.
It's not based on your expectations super

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Bowl or bust. It is based
on what you see in comparing them to

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other teams in the NFL, especially
other good teams in the NFL. This

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might be the best Lions football team
you and I have ever seen. And

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that's interesting to say, considering you've
seen some of the players in the history

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of the game play for this franchise. Not many Sanders Johnson never on a

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team like this. I said,
balance, Remember that offensive line, defensive

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line, wide receivers, corners,
running back, safeties, slash linebackers.

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I think Jack Campbell's gonna bust out
having an unbelievable year. Let's get to

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some texts. You can text US
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Sewell, Oh sorry, no,
go right ahead. Sewell is a

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modern day Anthony Munos and no wonder
Cincinnati got to two Super Bowls in the

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eighties. That's a good one.
He was an absolute beast. I love

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I think it's because it's such an
important piece. Okay, it's just so

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underrated, it really is. I
remember watching John dated. I'm dating myself

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here, Okay, I remember watching
John Hannah for the New England Patriots,

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and he was so dominant. Joe
Delomaler with the Buffalo Bills. Right,

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well, there are guys now who
many people could consider among the best ever.

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There really are. I mean,
there's guys who are just like when

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when Kevin Zeitler, who's now a
Lion, when he came out of Wisconsin

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and he was playing up front for
Baltimore and Cincinnati, people think he was

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among the best ever at his position
at the guard. Is he Bruce Matthews,

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Is he Will Shields? Is he
John Hannah? I don't know.

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He's pretty damn good though. We'll
get to more techs and some phone calls

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Meyer Hotline eight six eight three eight
forty forty three when we come back.

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I'm really looking forward to talking with
Tim Lester, who is the former

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quarterback and head coach at Western Michigan
University and now the new offensive coordinator for

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Kirk Ferrence and the Iowaha guys.
The reason I say that is because I

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wonder how he goes about I'm interested
to ask him how he goes about finding

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the offense, fixing an offense that
was completely broken. And I know this

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is a this might seem like a
very strange comparison. Ben, have you

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ever heard the song get Back by
the Beatles? Possibly? Oh my god,

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Okay, I want you to do
me a favor when the show's over,

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all right, I want you to
listen to get Back by the Beatles.

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All right? The greatest rock and
roll band of all time. It

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was It was designed written out of
boredom. They were at a rehearsal waiting

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for John Lennon. John Lennon was
late. Paul McCartney picks up, picks

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up his guitar, starts playing something
forms, he starts just saying some words.

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Suddenly, George Harrison picks up his
guitar or you go, Star jumps

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on the drums, they start playing
and suddenly, in a matter of just

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moments, they get the song get
back and it's one of the greatest songs

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of all time. Whether you like
the Beatles or not's it's true. It's

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one of the greatest songs of all
time. A band like led Zeppelin Stairway

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to Heaven really quick, right,
How do you get something to come together

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so quickly? Is the question?
How will Tim Lester do that? So

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I'm really looking forward to the conversation. He will join us about fifteen minutes

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from now. All right, we've
got another So Ben promised me you'll do

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that, okay, and you'll let
me know what you think the song.

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You what you think of the song
tomorrow? All right, let's let us

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know. Let us know here on
Exis and bros. All right, we

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got another text. Hit me with
it. Yeah, it says Gibbs was

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incredible last year, but in fairness, we don't know how he comes back

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after that terrible fumble in the NFC
Championship game. Everyone went after Reynolds after

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that game. Yeah, Gibbs could
carry that into the year mentally, but

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we hope he doesn't. Many examples
of athletes who lost it Tiki Barber,

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now Block and the Cardinals right fielder. The Cardinals right fielder. That one

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confuses me. Cardinals right fielder,
Hum, I need a little bit deeper

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explanation on it. I guess you
talking about it could be. I mean,

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for no Block, it was kind
of like the the the Yips.

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Steve Sacks had him too. Remember
there was a catcher who struggled throwing the

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ball back to the pitcher at times
golfers, it happens quite a bit,

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right. I don't know if that
they might be talking about rick A Keel.

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Rick Ankiell is a center fielder and
a pitcher. I don't know if

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that's what they may be referring to. I don't. Based on what we've

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recognized with Jamior Gibbs, okay,
and considering he has the coaching staff that

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he has, and he has just
as much has the veteran leader in David

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Montgomery in that same backfield, I
think we'll help him fine, Okay.

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I don't think it's going to affect
him. I say that with wishful thinking

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for sure, but I don't think
it's going to affect him. Let's go

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to the phone lines. It's the
Meyer hotline. Eight sixty six eight three

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eighty eight forty three. Who's up
next? Beent We've got Scott and Grand

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Rapids. Scott. Good to have
you on board. I'll worry Bud.

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I'm doing all right, Chef.
How you doing? Brother him? Great?

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Thanks for the call. Good.
Yeah, I just want to chime

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in. I called before. I'm
the Giants fan. We're talking about the

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draft and not having sexty picks and
guess what they went with the premier wide

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receiver right, Yeah. I love
him. He's probably my probably my favorite

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player in the draft. Yep,
love him. Yeah. So I just

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want to Chinye just to give you
contact. Okay, you know, I'll

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call in more regular towards the football
season. But I was just listening to

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yesterday. You know, Golf signs. You know, we're talking about the

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contract. Everyone seems fine with it. In New York. I think we're

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all a bunch of just like jump
on anything that we just like are twinged

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about a little bit. I remember
Daniel Jones got the contract in it and

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felt like someone dropped the bomb on
the city. Golf gets in the line

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saens like, oh okay, there
fifty billion, okay, okay, and

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then you know we're talking about the
five under twenty five, you know,

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top twenty five under twenty five players. I mean he has a great supporting

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cast. Now, gol, I
want you to set me straight if you

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think differently here. I think Daniel
Jones is just like Jared Goff with mobility.

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If you put Daniel Jones behind that
offensive line with those weapons, with

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that steam in that playbook, I
think he outplays Jared Goff every day of

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the week if they're on the same
team. Jared Goff is on the bench,

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I don't think he sees the game
unless Jones gets injured and he's not

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getting Zach Date five times behind that
line. He's running for a third and

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five, he's running for a third
and six. He's moving to change for

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I've watched all the games pretty Troyes
AND's golf's been there, and obviously all

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my Giants games. I mean,
those two are are eerily similar. If

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you give them time, they're going
to execute. They can read the defense

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to'll adjust a little bit. The
only difference to me really is Jones can

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move in golf camps and everyone's like, am I crazy to think that there's

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a close parallel there and Jones would
be successful and there'd be a lot less

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drama around him in a different system
where he's not getting blown up every two

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seconds. Well, I think any
look, I think any quarterback, every

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quarterback is better when they have time. There's no doubt. And I think

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Daniel Jones, I've said this for
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know, I love his mobility,
I love his talent. I don't I

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don't think you know. The accuracy
is is another thing though. I mean,

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I think in last year he was
pretty damn accurate, but he only

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played what six games I think for
the Giants. I wouldn't go that far,

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Chef. If you look at his
accuracy at twenty yard plus passes,

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he was top five in the league
the last two years on you have to

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have a certain amount of temps.
I think it's like one hundred and tenths

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over twenty but he's averaged out top
five on pepe brows. He's forty.

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To give him time. That man
w electioncute for you, but go ahead,

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I'm sorry to cut you off,
but he get your thoughts. Sorry,

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No, no. Look, he's
there's a reason he was. I

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think he was an early favorite in
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That's how good he was. And
it helps when you win, right

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every Like I said, every quarterback
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quarterback, I should say, is
going to be good when they have time

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to throw the football. Everybody.
It's the ultimate team sport. You know

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that everybody needs somebody on that team. The question is are you a difference

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maker? Are you making the plays
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I can't say, and I do
like Daniel jones athleticism. I can't say

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he would be as good or better
than Jared Goff if he had this offensive

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line. I can't say that he
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be on the sidelines. Because Jared
Goff has proven it in Los Angeles as

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well. I don't think Jared Goff
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may get more blamed than he deserves
in New York And a lot of that

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stems back from, you know,
a guy who was drafted in the first

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round and I think, what is
the sixth or eighth overall, and and

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people probably that year. Yeah,
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Yeah, and I think a lot
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Who was the next QB off that
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wasn't it like Dwayne Haskins. I
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yeah, yeah, the commander look
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And that's that's why. That's why
you don't. I'm sorry to cut you

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off there, I got I gotta
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going to be joined by Tim Lester. That's why you don't reach. That's

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why you don't draft for need because
you miss out on opportunities. You miss

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out on guys that you wish you
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difference for you in a different way, whether it be Rashawn Gary, whether

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it be TJ. Hockinson or at
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who you felt could have been a
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period of time. When we come
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Lister, he's going to join us
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Monday through Friday. Matt Shepherd here
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and Cadillac, Grand Rapids, Grayling
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City, Pataski, Charlet Boy,
Traverse City, wherever it is you may

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be driving around. Honored you're part
of the program here today. Honored to

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bring in Tim Lester, I wanted
to talk to him for a long time.

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Left Western Michigan, setting seventeen school
records as their quarterback. There was

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then the head coach of his alma
Maters. Soon thereafter and when thirty seven

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and thirty two went to three Bowl
games and is now the new offensive coordinator

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at the University of Iowa. He
joins us here on exis and Bros.

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Tim, Thanks for the time very
much. Hope you and your family are

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well. How's things? We are
doing great? How are you, man?

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I'm doing great. Man. It's
an honor to talk to you.

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It's a heck of a challenge that
you await. How does a coach begin

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the process of taking over a new
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Yeah, I think that's the you
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part is the biggest piece, right, is just trying to get out there

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and figure out what your guys do
well, and you have to put them

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in situations. Every team's been different. I think back to the Western teams

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and you know, sky Moore was
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They're all different. They all run
routes different, they're running backs, hit

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different plays better, they see things
better, and you're just trying to figure

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out who's good at what. So
by the time we hit the ball when

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it really matters, we're putting each
guy in the best position possible to have

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success, and that takes time.
I don't think we've learned a ton,

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But we've had one spring ball to
learn and so I've got a lot of

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good information, but there's a lot
more that needs to be collected before we

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put a plan together. So you
have a belief in what you think is

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the best offense, then you have
to get to know the personnel. At

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what stage do you mesh the two
together where you have to adjust comparable to

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they're adjusting to you. It's tough
because there's in every offense. I believe

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there's a couple, you know,
non negotiables. You know, every offense

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is different. I could tell you
that the air raid is going to be

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different than what we're doing. And
so there's certain plays that we're running.

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It fits the offense and it makes
this offense go or that offense cod it

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doesn't matter which offense. So there's
there's probably one run play and a couple

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of pass plays that are happening,
and we got to get good at them.

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And it's it's muscle memory, it's
reps. We started on that from

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springball day one. Let's get good
at these things. We have to be

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good at these things. And then
then there's all then there's everything else,

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which is we have a lot of
different run teams and a lot of different

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path combinations. We can call them, however our guys can execute them.

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But there's certain things that make everything
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we started and selling and we're getting
better at running already, because like you

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said, there's a couple of things
in every offense that you have to have

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as part of it, and they're
going to have to work themselves into being

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good at executing it. Former Western
Michigan Great quarterback and former Western Michigan head

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coach now Iowa offensive coordinator Tim Lester, joining us here on Exus and bros

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I said, just before the break, the song get Back by the Beatles

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was drawn up by mistake. John
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Paul McCartney just started playing around with
the guitar and then boom, it appears.

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Okay. When an offensive coordinator takes
hold of a playbook and then has

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ideas and starts drawing them up before
they become a reality, how often does

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that happen for you when you are
thinking about the plays that you want to

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see in corporated? I think more
often, and then I think every offense

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is different, you know, every
every offense depending on which you've been in.

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I've been out a lot of different
kinds, and I have one that

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I really enjoy being a part of
because I think they they lend to more

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creativity on the offensive side from the
from the play design standpoint, and so

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I think when you're in the right
offense, it's fun because you try to

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figure out what you want to put
on the front side and what you want

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to pull on the backside. This
is the offense that we will run.

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It's very flexible in the passing game, so it is a lot of fun

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to pair different concepts together and kind
of you go to the lab in the

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spring and you try all different kinds
of combinations, figure out what your quarterbacks

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are comfortable with and uh, and
then you know you're always been printing a

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new way. You're always trying to
find a new way, especially going against

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the defense that we get to go
against every single day. Not nothing comes

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easy against Shill Parker and his crew
over there. So it was it was

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a baddle of always changing different looks
because you can never really get in the

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same look, so they'll shut it
down. So it's that part of it

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is what gets you up in the
morning. That's one. You're taking over

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an offense now. Granted some of
the personnel is different now, but you're

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taking over an offense that's surpassed two
hundred yards in the game only five times

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and only twice put up more than
three hundred yards. In fourteen games,

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they averaged two hundred and thirty four
point six yards per game, worst in

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the Big Ten and worst under your
head coach since he became head coach in

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nineteen ninety nine. What's the biggest
challenge. Yeah, that's a good question.

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I'd say the biggest thing is just
you know, I'm battling. You

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know, I'm very fortunate to be
with coach parents and obviously our defense and

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our SPOS teams are two of the
you know, most high ranking units in

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a country. So offensively, you
know, it's it's for me, it's

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figuring out, you know, what
we can do well, like I said

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earlier, but installing something new.
I mean, this offense has been run

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here for twenty some years. This
is the first time they've done something different

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in a very long time. So
a lot of people are excited about it.

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But there's a lot of new not
just some new I'm talking everything from

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the name of the formation that cadence. I mean, they've done things a

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certain way for a very, very
very long time, and so really it's

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just teaching. It is literally a
teaching situation because everyone there has run the

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same and I'm the only new coach
here, so I did not bring it

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down with me, So I got
to coach the coaches. Coach is really

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enjoying learning, you know, this
offense and then getting it to the player.

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So I think that's the biggest challenge
is getting them to understand what we

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want to get done and then figuring
out a way to be efficient. The

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key to everything is running the ball, all right, the same thing at

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Western, the same thing when I
played. Passing records and all that stuff

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come off running the ball. And
it's something that I believe the Iowa offense

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has done a pretty decent job of
being able to run the ball. Now.

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Normally, when you can run the
ball, you have to create explosive

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passes off of that, and that's
normally one comes with the other and uh,

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and that's why we have to make
sure we tie those two things together.

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Iowa offensive corner Tim Lester with us
here on exits and bros. I'm

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fascinated by the process. What was
the inn what's an interview process like for

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someone going into a new situation as
the offensive coordinator like you are with Iowa.

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How did that? How did that
go? Yeah? It was.

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It's a long process and you meet
with everybody at different times. I got

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to go in the room with the
defense, with the offense, you know,

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with the staff, with a bunch
of different committees, and just talk

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about what your beliefs are, you
know, because your beliefs have to align

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with the head coach right as far
of how I believe offense should be run

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and how to win games. And
this is this is how we go about

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it. And here's some clips,
and then you get on the whiteboard and

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you know, and then they really
then they start grilling with questions about how

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would you handle this or this pressure
or that pressure and display how do you

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do this? And and then at
the end I get to ask questions about,

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okay, in the past, like
what have you done in these situations?

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So it is a awesome. It's
long and exhausting, but it is

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so much farn just sitting there talking
ball. I don't put a white board

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and you obviously bring cut ups.
You have no clue which cutups you are

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going to use because you don't know
which way the conversation is going to go,

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and you just kind of have them
all loaded up and ready to go.

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So if we started talking about our
pos and we started talking about the

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wide zone, we started talking about
cap skiing whatever, we end up going

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to vertical routes, trying to routes
where you have something to show them to

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back up what you're putting on the
board. So it's it's a lot of

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fun and it was a great process
to go through. Yeah, it's a

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daunting task and I was the only
team that I believe had more punting yards

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than offensive yards in college football a
year ago. What did Kirk Farnes tell

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you he wanted and needed from you? Well, I think the biggest thing

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is just to be to be efficient. I mean, we did not do

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a good job of taking care of
the ball last year offensively, and that's

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number one. And they did a
great job getting the ball back on defense.

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They did a great jobs scoring on
defense. The field position game obviously

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with our special teams was pretty special. So you know, we have it's

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number one to take care of the
ball. And then obviously we're all like,

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we have to be aggressive and we
have to find a way to create

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matchups and create consternation for defense,
and that's that's really what we have to

406
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focus on, you know. And
we really haven't worried a ton. There's

407
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so much new going on that I
haven't really even talked about what they've done

408
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in the past, so their numbers
were on the past. It's really just

409
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start from scratch. This is what
we do, and let's go to work.

410
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And the guys have responded and we
had a great spring, a lot

411
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of a lot of mistakes, guys
learning on the sly, which has been

412
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fun. We did not start slowly
either. I went trying to get through

413
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a fire hose install. I mean
we went and I I'd rather just throw

414
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it all out there and see who
can handle it then to you know,

415
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.279
spoon feed these guys, you know, because we we had six months to

416
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our first game, so we got
to get hired till February. So we

417
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went all in, put a lot
of pressure on the guys and they responded,

418
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.200
which was great. You had to
be a tough physically and mentally,

419
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:14.200
a tough dude to play Division one
football period. I don't care what position

420
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you're playing. You've got to be
tough to be able to handle it and

421
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balance it as a student athlete.
What of the characteristics you look for for

422
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a player in your offense, You
know what number one is that you want

423
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them to love football. You know, I mean you want them to just

424
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eat and breathe it, because it
is it's a whole new level. It's

425
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so much fun to watch a freshman
come out high school. When in high

426
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school they on training camp was showing
up at eight in the morning and being

427
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done at noon, and now it's
showing up at six in the morning and

428
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.680
leaving when it's dark outside at ten
at night. You know, it's just

429
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a different commitment level. And there's
a little bit shock and all value when

430
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the young kids come in and some
absolutely love it, but it is it's

431
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a big change. So finding people
that just love ball, they love to

432
00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:02.599
compete, huge premium on multiple sport
athletes. I love people that like to

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compete, period the end, even
if they're not the best player on their

434
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basketball team or baseball the matter.
Just people that love to compete. Because

435
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once you have that, you know, if it's deep down inside. If

436
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they're a gym rat and they love
it, they will do that love you

437
00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.920
know. And obviously away is a
long tradition of developing guys that when they

438
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.760
get there, you look at him
and think, what's this going to be?

439
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.760
In four years later is George Kittle
and he turned into an all pro,

440
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.880
an unlogle player. But they do
a great job with developing. But

441
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:37.239
the key is that people you watch
him play. I think that's why they

442
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.079
make him a ball time. He's
just fun to listen to it. Yeah,

443
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play like he loves it. And
the more guys like that you can

444
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.599
get, the better you're going to
be. Yeah. Well, three of

445
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.679
the best tight ends in football are
Iowah Hawk guys. When you look at

446
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.760
TJ. Hockinson and Sam Laporto as
well, give me an example. It

447
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.079
can give our audience an example of
calling a play, because I don't think

448
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:00.679
people truly appreciate that. They think. There are so many misnomers about football.

449
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.800
I say this all the time,
Tim, I say, people think

450
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.719
they know football, and it's the
one sport that they think they know that

451
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.840
they really don't. It's really hard. I'm not going to say that I

452
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.239
know it either. But you know, being dropped as a drop back passer,

453
00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:16.280
you're sitting there trying to scan look
at all your different reads, people,

454
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.760
people up in the stands sort to
this guy, he's wide open.

455
00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.920
Yeah, well that's because the safety
left that you know, all those different

456
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:25.920
things. Can you give me an
example of what a place sounds like when

457
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:30.119
you call it into the huddle and
how long it takes to say it?

458
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.280
Well, it really Yeah, it
depends on the offense, you know,

459
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:38.679
because there are certain there are certain
offenses that are you know, more simplified

460
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:43.000
that are you know, that have
one word place, And we have a

461
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:45.039
couple of those two I mean,
not not many, but most of ours.

462
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:51.400
I mean it's more of a the
lengthy, the lengthy offense, you

463
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.599
know. And and so you know
with the new community, I mean,

464
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:58.039
you couldn't have timed up better for
me to come in come back from the

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00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:04.400
green ray packers to the Eyewall archives
and have them pass helmet communications, which

466
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:09.480
was which just lucky. That's all
I can explain it. But you know,

467
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.440
here's I just looked at id GET
on my computer here at Moto west

468
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:20.800
Ride Ace eighteen boss Aler blast Rotation
Slash look and so you know, you

469
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.800
always start with the shift, the
motion, the formation. Then you have

470
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:27.400
the play call, and then you
have all your adjustments, your alerts,

471
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.719
your autos, your cans, which
is all on the quarterback to make adjustments

472
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:36.599
to the play at the Lion scrimmagine
and every word in there means something different

473
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.840
to a different player. You know. The reason why I think words are

474
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.119
powerful is because if you take an
extra second in the huddle to have a

475
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:50.199
longer play call, it helps the
people in the huddle be able to play

476
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:53.000
sooner. You know, they don't
have to memorize this play means these thirty

477
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.639
things. You literally say those thirty
things so everybody can hear it in the

478
00:36:55.719 --> 00:37:00.519
huddle and you can get you know, we're one of the youngest you it's

479
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.480
in the history of the NFL.
Last year at Green Bay, in the

480
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:07.000
wide receiver room, I mean,
we had every tight end was a rookie.

481
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:09.559
We had two receivers that were in
their second year in the NFL.

482
00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:15.400
Everybody else was a rookie in the
wide receiver room and uh and so those

483
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:17.599
guys were able to play and have
some success early on, just because you

484
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:21.400
do have to handle a little bit
longer, a little bit more verbiage.

485
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:23.519
But once you break the huddle,
you got everybody on the same page,

486
00:37:23.559 --> 00:37:28.000
which is really what matters. How
good do you think Jordan Love can be?

487
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:31.920
You know? I love that that
guy. His demeanor is I think

488
00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:36.320
special. His arm tail and obviously
is as well, but he just he

489
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:39.039
just never never gets too high,
never gets too low. Tom comments,

490
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:45.199
the quarterback coacher doesn't believe he's the
same demeanor, very palm. You know,

491
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.679
when we we didn't have a great
start early on, we were close

492
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:51.400
in a lot of games, and
it just kept showing up. You would

493
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:53.360
not have known it. I mean
the outside world and they were all over

494
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:58.000
the Packers only were two and five. Yeah, and in the building you

495
00:37:58.039 --> 00:38:00.519
would have never known. I mean, we showed up when we tried to

496
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:01.800
get better every single day, and
all of a sudden we found a way

497
00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:05.559
to win one game and we want
to I don't know what our run was

498
00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:07.239
at the end, but I think
it was eight at ten or eight and

499
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.000
nine, whatever it was. But
it was the same in the building all

500
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.159
the time. And then and a
lot of that ghost SARTs the quarterback and

501
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:16.159
kind of the boat he sets the
practice every day and guys like Rashaun Gary

502
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:22.480
on defense and Prestonence Smith and so
we had been great leaders. But you

503
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.639
kind of saw him paining confidence and
experience. And he did have experience in

504
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:30.559
the NFL because it was his fourth
piece, I believe, but the experience

505
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:32.760
playing is another thing. And as
he got it, man, he really

506
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.920
turned it out at the end of
the season, had one egg of a

507
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.440
year. Yeah, we went a
great success there at Iowa, tim Lester,

508
00:38:38.519 --> 00:38:43.320
we appreciate it. What did you
think of the Lions last year when

509
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.800
you watched them on tape and how
good they were? Oh? Man,

510
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:50.199
they were good. I think they
do a heck of a job, you

511
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.960
know, building formations and obviously Samilport, I mean, I just think they've

512
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:59.000
done a great job in the draft. They dranted the right type of players

513
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.440
that love playing. You know,
David Blough played for me at Purdue and

514
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:06.039
he's one of my favorite feed in
the world, and so I talked to

515
00:39:06.119 --> 00:39:08.119
him all the time, and they
got after us the first time we played

516
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.920
him at Lambeau and then obviously Thanksgiving
Day we're able to play fairly well and

517
00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:16.039
get after him the second time.
But I mean, what an I mean

518
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:21.519
the whole division is exciting, you
know, to have to have you know,

519
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.840
I arguably the best division right here
in the Midwest. And seeing where

520
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.360
the Lions are right now with the
players I have and the youth and how

521
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.480
well they're playing, and then you
have the Packers are young, and then

522
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.199
now the Bears, and I mean
it's gonna it's gonna be a lot of

523
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:37.599
it's gonna be a lot of fun
to be in the Midwest and watch them

524
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.880
professional football for the next couple of
years. Yeah. Hey, speaking of

525
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:45.000
that, the Big Ten does without
divisions now, so it's all just one

526
00:39:45.079 --> 00:39:49.239
conference. How much do you think
that affects teams as you get ready for

527
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.719
the year. Oh, it's gonna
be exciting. It's just we knew,

528
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:54.199
right, you know. I'm a
big believer having been in Collegetable for a

529
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.840
long time and been on the board
of trustees for the AFCA. I mean,

530
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.079
we were very for a good fifteen
twenty years of not changing much and

531
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:07.320
watched the basketball coaches kind of stay
up with the times. Has times changed

532
00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.280
and we were behind, behind,
behind, and now in the last five

533
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.480
years, it's like we're full court
at you know, full court press.

534
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.519
I'm trying to figure out, well, what's the future of college football and

535
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:21.840
so so it's exciting, you know, to have to have teams in our

536
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:23.519
league that we've never had before.
We're going to travel west. I think

537
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:29.960
we go to UCLA, Washington comes
to us USC, and Oregon going to

538
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:31.239
be in the Big Ten. So
it's it's going to be a change.

539
00:40:31.239 --> 00:40:34.559
It's still changing. It's going to
continue to change, I think for the

540
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.639
next couple of years until we've figured
it out. But it is fun to,

541
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.440
uh, to just to see newness, you know in the league.

542
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:45.639
That's the same with the SEC and
a lot of the leagues are getting a

543
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.519
facelift a little bit, and uh, it's gonna be fun to see.

544
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.159
At least we're trying it. You
got to you gotta get moving and you've

545
00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:52.880
got to start making changes. And
if we have it worked, great,

546
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.440
if they know we can make changes. But at least we're moving towards a

547
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.760
destination and not just sitting on our
hands and waiting. You know. Yeah,

548
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.199
Tim respected you a great deal,
even though I'm a Chippewa, respected

549
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.519
you a great deal as the Broncos
signal caller and as their head coach.

550
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:12.159
You represented that university in the state
very well. I know you do the

551
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.000
same at IOWA. Thanks for the
time today and congratulations, good luck to

552
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:17.199
you. I appreciate you. Thank
you man, all right you bet Tim

553
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:21.800
Luster joining us here on ex'es and
bros. Great stuff. We appreciate that

554
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.039
bank. Nice job getting Tim Lester
on with us. Thanks to all your

555
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.880
phone calls and your text folks.
Will be back with you tomorrow morning,

556
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.039
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