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It's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling Podcast with
Jack N. Carnaco and JP Sorrow.

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Well, welcome back, folks.
We are rocking and rolling around the Christmas

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Tree for the twenty twenty three Lapsed
Fan Christmas Show, The Unwrappening two and

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we're going package by package here.
This will be number four for those following

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along. And uh, we're in
person, face to face the Boss and

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I we want to thank the members
of the Solar System who we're thinking about

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Christmas shopping four months before any normal
human being, just to get us these

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gifts on time, for sure.
I mean it's unbelievable. And this one

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you can see the date it's from. It's from there written there that it

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was holy shit. Eh. Wow, someone's on the on the ball.

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Let's find out who was this on
the ball feels like a book. That

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feels like a book Amazon packaging to
be expected. Still looking at that Jeff

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Hardy life size, I'd rather not
just staring at me like a pervert,

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like a modest pervert. Wow,
look at this. Oh wow, I

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wish I had I didn't have this
one. It is hard I wish you

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should know who sent it. Doesn't
say it's just as Amazon Fulfillment Services.

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That's odd. Maybe it's in the
book. No sign of who to give

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credit to or who to give love
to for that. Wow, this is

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a George Shire book Minnesota's Golden Age
of wrestling from Verne Gangna to the Road

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Warriors. And if you can put
a wrestling book in my hands that I

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don't already have, that's really incredible. That's saying something. And I can't

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wait to dig into this one.
Wow, that's excellent. Holy shit,

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it even comes with a little hair
on it. It's nice. Oh,

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that's perfect. Let's take a look
here. What do you know abou otto

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von Krupp I nothing kroup. This
is so great it goes year by year.

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Look at that? Ok, at
that someone someone dug into the clippings.

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Why don't you Why don't you share? Why don't you share with the

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people? This clipping? This is
this is the Minneapolis Boxing and Wrestling Club

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program. Of course, the Minneapolis
Boxing Wrestling Club. As listeners, the

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Life and Death of the a W
I would know was the name of the

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office. It's basically what's depicted in
the wrestler. And this is a poster

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advertising an upcoming battle between vern Ganya
and the great Cowboy Bill Watts match of

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the decade Gdy versus Watts. For
title fans who are counting on strictly a

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scientific wrestling match tonight between Champ Verne
Gagney and Cowboy Bill Watts may be in

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for a mild surprise. All indications
or that the two main eventers will offer

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just that, but don't place too
large a wager on that routine continuing for

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the entire match. Neither Gagney or
Watts is regarded as the peer six type

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of brawler. But once Temper's flair
and planing strategy suddenly backfires, anything can

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happen. Men reading this and getting
more right, Yes, I'll admit that

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this could wind up as a brawl. Gagney offered, could this be a

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brawl? Is the the subhead after
he says, I guess there could be

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a brawl probing journalism here? Yeah, you know this isn't my intention.

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I doubt if Wats is taking along
these lines. But don't forget there's a

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world championship at stake, and I
certainly don't intend to release my grip on

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the title without the toughest fight I've
ever shown Gagney added, there's nothing like

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a little Minnesota charm for the Holloways
Man. It's history now that Gagney demanded

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and received the highest guarantee ever paid
to a wrestler in Minneapolis to go ahead

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with the title match against the Cowboy. Look, I'm not trying to fool

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anybody. Watch is big at three
hundred pounds a guy. He moves like

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a cat, and his variety of
holds and maneuvers is unlimited. It's not

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like going against any alley fighter where
clever wrestling alone can do the job.

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This is gonna take a supreme effort, and no one knows that better than

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I do. I admit that Watch
is stronger than I am. He has

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a great sense of balance, he
says, a balance not a balanced diet.

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Though you either have balance or you
don't. What does a sense of

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balance mean? How do you get? I know? Well, you know

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my balanced sense is not as good
as his, and frankly, my best

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maneuver might just might just be to
stay away from him for a while,

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he stated. Veteran wrestling fans figure
it will be a showdown between the Cowboys

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Oklahoma Stampede and Gagnes Flying dropkicks with
the champ sleeper not entirely forgotten either.

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Watch knows what's at stake. He
also knows steaks. He knows what's a

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steak, all right, and he
knows what kind of an opponents me to.

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Well, is it possible to say
anything new about Gagney? Well,

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there it is. Is it possible
to say anything new about Gagney? It's

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only possible to say something him.
I do. I do mont fans to

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realize that I've waited a long time
for this match, and I don't plan

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to allow the opportunity to slip through
my fingers. I think there's a way

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to beat Gagney. I'll find out
soon Mona. He concluded, everyone wants

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the cowboy. Apparently there are more
than a few promoters around the country who

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feel Cowboy Bill Watts has the ability
to defeat Verne Gagney in Tonight's Big World

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Championship. About promoter Wally Carbo said
that this week right that the phone in

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his Dykman Hotel office has a brother. What are you doing, dude?

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What do you what? You bet? Who's who's calling? What are the

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hotel terry? What's the what?
Wally brother? What who's the Dykeman brothers,

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Dick van dyke Man. What.
It's really good when you were in

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person, because he actually turns and
looks over his shoulder, but he says

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what uh and ringing constantly in the
last few days. And the callers are

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other big city promoters who wanted to
book Watts in the very near future.

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These guys Phil Watts can do it, and they want his name on contract

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to head everyone else. Carbo said, good quote. A few of those

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phone calls came from top wrestlers too. They wanted to be included on this

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card, which is drawing national attention. But Carbo decided some time ago to

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use men who have been appearing here
regularly, mostly because these grapplers represent the

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very best available anywhere. Unbelievable.
Man's sort of like local charm, like

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you know the dispatch, like we're
all in the together, we're all Minnesota,

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right, and you know the world
comes to Minnesota thanks to pro wrestling.

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That's awesome. It's a great book. I can't wait to dig into

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this. So I feel so badly. I don't know who gave us this.

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There's no indication of who sent it. Please, when you hear it.

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This is from the Minnesota Historical Society
Press. When you hear this episode,

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please do send us uh, send
us credit, Yeah, send us

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improvements purchase. So we don't we
shut up the right person because this is

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again it's it's really hard to put
a book in my hands that A I

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don't have and or B I haven't
even heard of. Wow, and I've

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heard of the gopher Land Grappling one. I have that one, which I

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think is not Dick Bourne, who's
wonderful. I think it's Jim mel It's

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a James Melby title. But this
is a George Shire one. I can't

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wait to dig in. So thanks
to whoever. It is. Wrestling books

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just as much as wrestling toys.
Once I became sure, you know,

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sort of like a Smark and reading
the sheets, I mean, getting the

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Tributes book by Meltzer. Oh,
that was huge digging into that thing.

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I remember I got the Powerbomb dot
com one, which was like the first

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publisher he ever did it with,
and it wasn't one that was available in

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stores. Wow. It had like
this very basic paper cover on it and

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it was just it was printed,
just plain black. Tribute Tributes to That

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was the one that had the Dannisa
Kappa photos, tributes to tributes to Yeah,

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because that was, you know,
full glossy in bookstores publication. The

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first one was just self published and
you had to poke around the web.

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Besfore Meltzer even had a website.
And I got that puppy for Christmas one

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year, man, and I learned
about everybody because they had all the obits

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in there, everything, Pilment,
Shell, Brody. I didn't know anything

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about all these. I thinkthez hadn't
died yet, but you know, like

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wrestlers who had died in the ring, like I think Orozo Bit is in

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there, and plumb Rico and there's
jeez, you know Paedron Morale. No,

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not Petrom Morales. I'm trying to
remember. See Ray Stevens is in

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there. Uh carry von Eric.
That was really the first time that book,

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reading it by the tree, Yeah, was the first time I became

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acquainted with the sweep of the von
Eric family tragedies. Yeah. So wrestling

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books and Christmas work for me,
brother, totally. So thanks to whoever

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put this hot little item in our
hand. The title is Minnesota's Golden Age

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of Wrestling from Verne Gun to the
Road Warriors. I'm gonna read it by

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like Minnetonka with some lamb chicks.
There we go. I think I was

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gonna do Ben Jelly. So thanks
again, UH for this roasted vegetables latest

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sprinkling of holiday joy asparagus. As
we continue unwrapping one at a time,

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